[02:23] AlanBell: that is a newspaper report about Sofware Freedom day [02:23] But the point is dholbach was on the paper :) [02:24] morning mr nigel [02:24] morning duanedesign :) [03:12] duanedesign: oh oh http://www.cvoid.com/ubuntu/bqueries/ways-to-know-the-world-of-ubuntu/ [03:14] nigelb: cool [03:15] thats great that -classroom got mentioned [03:17] nigelb: Who made that post? [03:19] nhandler: no clue. [03:19] Just found it off some tweet === nigelbabu is now known as nigelb [04:58] http://1roxtar.deviantart.com/art/Ubuntu-Life-Re-Started-180640652 <- This is why we do Ubuntu [05:19] doctormo: good one [05:22] nigelb: Part of the reason I watch the art community, it's full of brand new users who aren't connected at all to the rest of the community yet. [05:23] :) [05:23] You know I have blog entries scheduled until Wednesday :-D It's been a busy weekend. [05:28] nigelb: We have 447 members and clocking up still, I'm waiting for 500 and then I'll make a post about the awesome group and some awesome artwork. [05:39] doctormo: kind of reminds me of a poster i did a log time ago. In theme, not style. http://spreadubuntu.neomenlo.org/files/UbuntuPoster-Small-Virus.png [05:40] duanedesign: Ah you did that! it's very good :-D [05:41] doctormo: i am doing less graphic design for work these days, so i hope to do more for fun now [05:42] duanedesign: Please do show us your stuff, maybe do an art swap or collab with me. [05:48] i just noticed some spam links in the descriptions on spreadubuntu [05:49] darn spammers [05:49] doctormo: maybe also watch a person operating under the name "bartart3d" (or "bartart3dbe" on youtube) then ☺ [05:49] http://www.bartart3d.be/ [05:51] JanC: A known ubuntu artist who helps out in the community? [05:53] currently he's not active in the community, but I know him since before he started using Ubuntu, so I know some of the things he's capable of ☺ [05:53] if I would need somebody to do something music-related I would call him though ☺ [05:54] actually, I should try to see him again some time, it's been 3 or 4 years :-/ [05:58] JanC: We have a music competition going on in dA, I'm in a band entering doing the lyrics, one other is doing the cover and one other still is doing the music. fun on a bun [06:00] dA = DeviantArt I suppose? [06:00] they do music now? [06:02] he actually started to use open source *after* I last saw him, which is quite funny ☺ [06:04] somehow he started to play with Blender (after trying & throwing away limited "student/test versions" of commercial tools) and was so impressed that he thought maybe other open source software was capable too ☺ [06:08] thats nice, I often think FireFox is a good tool for that [06:09] Showing people FOSS is capable an that open source != crap. Asking someone to try FF is also a much smaller step then an entire OS [06:10] well, he probably knew firefox already too, but firefox doesn't make it as obvious that it's open source (*all* web browsers are available for free after all) [06:14] but when professional 3D tools cost somewhere between 500 & 10000 EUR, en then Blender costs 0 EUR, people start to look why, I guess [06:15] well, and > 10000 EUR too of course [06:26] http://www.youtube.com/user/bartart3dbe#p/u/3/rsRa_RvqjAQ is a video clip of one of the music projects he was involved in (but not exactly the most "poppy" one, this is sort of industrial noise ;) ) [07:30] aloha [07:35] howdy [07:35] czajkowski: heya! [07:43] good morning! [08:04] Morning folks [10:01] morning ara kim0 [10:03] morning duanedesign [10:05] * duanedesign has been learning about the opensource 3d printer project this morning [10:05] RepRap [10:10] it is cool [10:10] and it can print itself, which is really cool [10:17] AlanBell: yes, i was just trying to find a local usergroup. Looks like there is one just 1.5 hours down the highway :) [10:33] morning duanedesign :) [10:33] I suppose you don't have sleep anymore [10:35] nigelb: i was off between 1:36 and 4:03 :) [10:36] nigelb: have you found out about your visa yet? [10:47] duanedesign: keepassx seems to be something similar - you can save the password file to a mounted share, whcih seems to acheive what we are after. [11:27] jussi: aha, thank you [11:37] * duanedesign is working on a creative uses for ubuntu one blog post. [11:37] but i am having trouble coming up with a cron job that will take a screenshot of your desktop every N minutes and save with a unique name. [11:37] http://paste.rtg.in.ua/2cd563e9b4a630e2abbdee668b2187a9/ [11:39] downloading torrents being a good thing to promote? [11:40] (Yes, I know fully that it's _possible_ to download legal content via torrent) [11:50] popey: we promote torrents for all ubuntu releases, why not for other stuff? [11:54] other stuff like? [11:59] debian releases [11:59] :) [12:00] I would say just add an example to the article of a perfecly legitimate torrent download that one might want to add remotely [12:00] yup [12:00] less ambiguous [12:01] duanedesign: so add to that paragraph: so whilst out and about you can add the torrent link to the latest Ubuntu server and have the .iso ready to burn when you get home [12:01] the prime example of how not to do this was the blog post Danny P wrote about 'first thing to do after you install ubuntu' and showed himself downloading all kinds of TV programmes, and music.. [12:01] or something like that [12:04] AlanBell: popey thank you, good advice [12:04] I still think the webcam idea is a good one [12:04] remotely monitor your home [12:06] jussi: Nice catch on my blog, fully updated and should be much more correct now. [12:09] popey: and the commandline tool for that is 'webcam'? [12:10] JanC: Yes but Blender3D cost $100,000 when it was bought from NeoGeo's assets auction. Yet another example of free and open source _not_ being free, but merely paid for by someone else. [12:11] popey: Download Sita Sings the Blues via torrent :-) [12:22] duanedesign: Re your cron job problem, could it be the problem with cronjobs not having access to Xserver environment variables? [12:36] doctormo: hmmm, that would explain why $HOME/screenshots didnt work :P [12:37] Anyone notice how that wikileaked EU doc 'propritary' and replaces it with 'commercial'. It bloody annoys me to know to know that this can still work. [13:47] popey, AlanBell jussi: use legaltorrents.com, maybe? :) [14:03] anyone interested in a quick project? [14:04] http://code.google.com/webfonts [14:04] can someone find out how debian/ubuntu friendly these licenses are? [14:04] MORE FONTS WOULD BE AMAZING [14:04] very, they are mostly OFL [14:04] which is specifically DFSG friendly [14:04] oh nice [14:04] so basically, we just need them packaged up [14:04] project complete! [14:05] yeah, by the sound of it Mark wants the new Ubuntu font to be submitted there as well [14:05] that would be slick [14:05] so people can just use it on their websites [14:06] yup [14:06] it will be hosted on font.ubuntu.com too, but putting it on google means more people will discover it's awesomeness [14:06] oh, nice [14:06] some nice stuff there [14:06] I didn't know about font.u.c [14:07] nor did I [14:09] I'll ask Ken to package em up [14:13] do you happen to know who does Evolution stuff? [14:14] here are all the fonts in the google web font thing http://code.google.com/p/googlefontdirectory/source/browse/ [14:16] some are apache, some are OFL [14:16] oh, looks like there are some issues on some of the OFL.txt files! [14:16] http://code.google.com/p/googlefontdirectory/source/browse/felltypes/OFL.txt [14:17] they just dropped the license text in without filling in the blanks [14:17] https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/648873 [14:17] Ubuntu bug 648873 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging] Google Fonts (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] [14:17] oh awesome, AlanBell can you add that to the bug report? [14:18] done [14:18] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=583619 [14:18] Debian bug 583619 in wnpp "RFP: otf-googlefonts -- Free Web Fonts by Google" [Wishlist,Open] [14:18] upstream jcastro, AlanBell [14:18] nice, thanks! [14:19] I will link [14:19] cheers [14:19] good luck, thanks yall, that would rock [14:19] Righto, off to the pool for a swim [14:19] off to get caffeine [14:23] woo hoo - App Developer Week Starts today :-) [14:24] AlanBell, are you using slides today for your session? [14:25] akgraner: What time am I on? [14:25] doctormo, 1700 UTC [14:26] akgraner: I am not going to do anything special with lernid or anything, might just refer to some links as I go along [14:26] Tah luv [14:26] AlanBell, okie dokie - that makes it easier [14:26] :-) [14:27] jcastro: That fonts link crashes Firefox in lucid, reproducibly :-/ [14:27] for me anyway - b/c I would have to find someone to make sure Lernid and Classbot are pulling in the information for your slides and I don't know how to do that part... [14:33] popey: pitivi uses submodules in git, so I couldn't import their code into lp. [14:33] popey: other than that, everything else would work, (heh) [14:33] popey: I am going to help the shotwell guys set up this week. [14:36] thanks for the reminder akgraner. my reminder failed to go off this morning to remind me of app dev week [14:37] nnice one jcastro [14:37] duanedesign, you are most welcome [14:38] :) [14:38] need to start tweeting/denting and an email to the Beginners Team ML to pass on the reminder [14:40] classbot will start doing that soon as well - but yep that's a good idea :-) [14:56] jcastro, cc'd you on the reminder email to the session leaders for today [14:57] okey dokey! [14:57] lol I guess I better check on the OW speakers [14:57] jcastro, speaking of OW did you see my email to you about that [14:57] yeah didn't we talk about that last week? [14:58] I know you were looking for new session leads but is it ok to send it out to the past session leaders [14:58] man, only one post on my call for instructors on the forums. :( [14:58] not about that that I recall [14:58] oh yeah, I believe I read that last night and was supposed to tell you something like "you've done like 5 of these there's no reason to ask me for permission for anything" [14:58] :) [14:58] aka. go ahead! [14:59] jcastro, :-P ok point taken === ara_ is now known as ara [15:10] good afternoon [15:11] good morning [15:16] hey sense [15:16] hi sense [15:16] hello cjohnston, doctormo, jcastro! [15:31] jcastro, here is what apw had to say about OW - akgraner, have we really scheduled the next openweek the day after release, when half the team will have been working all weekend? apw> akgraner, heh good luck with that [15:31] lol [15:31] :-/ [15:35] * highvoltage happens to kind of agree :) [15:43] hey all [15:45] hi jono [15:46] Morning Jono [15:47] hey AlanBell, doctormo [16:04] hey jcastro are you join -classroom -chat and -backstage? [16:05] heya all [16:05] akgraner: heh, Nice mail [16:06] (the one about open week) [16:06] ahh ok [16:52] I love geek jokes, ubuntu one's are even better: http://alkore31.deviantart.com/art/Resistance2-180708758 [17:28] I'm after some graph visualisation software, I was going to use Graph::Render perl lib, but I'd rather not write my own if one exists already to show data over time. [17:52] <--- lunch [18:00] oh, jcastro is around :/ [18:00] Pendulum, akgraner: ^^ Here is the elusive Jorge O Castro [18:00] nigelb: well, not now [18:02] ready and waiting [18:02] Jorge O'Castro? [18:02] I didn't know jcastro was Irish!? [18:02] JFo: Jorge O. Casto [18:03] I think it is a conspiracy between him and Jon O'Bacon [18:03] * maco remembers JFo's Jon O'Bacon shirt [18:03] :) [18:04] JFo: hahhah [18:04] JFo: hrm, you seem to be back your normal self, I presume you're back home? [18:04] yes, but I am not yet on the right sleep schedule [18:04] [18:04] heh [18:05] that reminds me I should sleep [18:05] * JFo pretends nigelb is a snipe and beats the brush [18:06] * nigelb cries unfair. [18:06] JFo: Its 10:30 pm, I have my rights :p [18:06] :-/ [18:06] the right to remain silent ;-) [18:06] haha [18:07] slides don't work [18:47] jono: ping [18:48] hey Technoviking [18:50] jono: Do you want to talk to the people on the ubuntu-users mailing list that is popey headaches? I was going to move he be ban from the list, but wanted to see if you wanted to have a talk with him first [18:52] Technoviking, I just haven't had time to check into it yet, can you give me a few hours to catch up? [18:52] I think Iwill talk to him [18:52] jono: no problems [18:53] jono: thanks! let us know how it goes [18:53] thanks, pal! [18:55] jcastro, can we delay our call until later? [18:55] I am slammed [18:55] yes please [18:55] I am in the same boat [18:56] good man [18:56] thanks, pal [18:56] just whenever is fine with me [18:56] cheers [18:56] * Technoviking orders more coffee and metal for Mr. castro and Mr. Bacon [18:56] Technoviking, cheers, dude! [18:56] send over some meth while you are at it [18:56] :P [18:57] meth? I've graduated to pure heroin! [18:57] O.o [18:58] erm, awesome. [18:58] jcastro, I see you're living like a true Michigan-er [18:59] crap, I'm still at beer and scotch level, have not unlocked meth and herion achivement:) [19:19] nigelb: seen the new rupee symbol? [19:30] AlanBell: Show us! [19:32] bug 645987 [19:32] Launchpad bug 645987 in ubuntu-font-family "Symbol: add U+20B9 INDIAN RUPEE SIGN to currency block (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/645987 [19:38] http://www.idc.iitb.ac.in/events/Indian_Rupee_Symbol.pdf the definition of it is really cool === Mamarok_ is now known as Mamarok [20:30] <-- caffeine break [20:32] jcastro: You have special breaks for caffeine? [20:37] A last notice to people planning to travel to the US from the EU soon: if you travel to the US you will have to fill in online information before you can depart. This online registration costs 15 dollar and can only be paid for with a creditcard. The creditcard data will be kept for (at least) a year. Combined with the renewed SWIFT treaty you should be careful when picking a creditcard, and you can do nothing against entering the general [20:37] information online, which will also be kept. [20:40] * highvoltage wishes that traveling to the US was more avoidable [20:41] doctormo: that was a special way of saying "I'll be gone for 10 minutes while I hit the corner store" [20:42] Ah, thanks. UDS planning going well? [20:44] if "totally empty schedule" is well, then YEP! [21:17] At least empty means "full of possibilities"