[08:28] <micahg> bdrung_: I was wondering about webfav if I should convert to 3.0, just add a source/format 1.0, or do nothing
[08:46] <micahg> chrisccoulson: now using FF 4.0 beta 6, seems much smoother than 3.6 now
[10:32] <fta> xul2 still red in the ppa
[10:32] <micahg> fta: yes, sorry, will try to get to that today
[10:33]  * micahg thought it was fixed, but then it broke again
[10:33] <fta> is it really necessary to continue to daily build it? as ff4 no longer needs it...
[10:33] <micahg> fta: yes, for the people doing integration testing
[10:34] <fta> ?
[10:34] <micahg> fta: trying to update their products to build off xul20
[10:35] <fta> i meant, who? which products?
[10:35] <micahg> idk, there was a guy trying to build bluegriffon
[10:36] <micahg> there's conkeror
[10:40] <fta> ok
[10:40] <fta> do you know if there's a sprint going on or something? it's awfully quiet everywhere since mid last week
[10:42] <micahg> fta: there was a builder sprint last week, and the desktop team managers were on vacation
[10:53] <bdrung_> micahg: does it carry patches?
[10:54] <micahg> bdrung_: i don't think so
[10:55] <bdrung_> micahg: then convert to 3.0 (quilt)
[10:56] <micahg> bdrung_: k, thanks
[11:01] <micahg> bdrung_: for ubuntu-it-menu, I updated in bzr
[11:02] <debfx> micahg: I'm working on the kde integration for firefox 4.0b6 right now, should I open a merge request when I succeed?
[11:02] <micahg> debfx: that would be great
[11:04] <micahg> debfx: I might not get to the merge until the weekend though
[11:05] <bdrung_> micahg: can you drop firefox-ubuntu-it-menu?
[11:05] <micahg> bdrung_: I already pushed, I can make another upload though
[11:06] <bdrung_> micahg: there is a difference between pushing and uploading
[11:06] <micahg> bdrung_: sorry, uploaded and pushed
[11:08] <bdrung_> k
[11:08] <micahg> bdrung_: I'm happy to make another upload though
[11:17] <micahg> bdrung_: should I drop the webfav transitional package from webfav?
[11:20] <bdrung_> micahg: if we can fix netbook-launcher-efl to suggest xul-ext-webfav, yes. otherwise no.
[11:21] <micahg> bdrung_: we should probably wait until next cycle to do that then
[11:21] <bdrung_> k
[11:22] <micahg> I'll push what I have then, I bumped standards for it to 3.9.1 and converted to 3.0 (quilt)
[11:22] <micahg> s/push/upload/
[11:26] <bdrung_> micahg: we can drop the binary package gears
[11:26] <micahg> bdrung_: we might drop the source package gears :)(
[11:27] <bdrung_> micahg: the binary package will be dropped in both cases. ;)
[11:28]  * micahg wants to check with stefanlsd first
[11:29] <micahg> bdrung_: so, all that's left is gears and prism
[11:30] <micahg> prism I'm still debating whether or not to update (have to see if I can get a changelog)
[11:31] <bdrung_> that might be a false positive. does it use dh_xul-ext or install-xpi or similar?
[11:32] <micahg> bdrung_: no
[11:32] <micahg> but it is using xpi.mk
[11:33] <bdrung_> ok, xpi.mk uses dh_xul-ext and install-xpi normally
[11:33] <micahg> bdrung_: k, so I'll either rebuild before universe freeze or update
[11:34]  * micahg will bbiab
[12:41] <fta> micahg, chrisccoulson: quick question for native english speakers: i've designed an application i called flappy (described here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/501429/)  i'm wondering if flappy is really a good name for it.. flaky maybe?
[12:42] <micahg> fta: flappy sounds better :)
[12:45] <fta> micahg, did you read the description? what do you think of the idea?
[12:46] <micahg> fta: it's an interesting idea, but almost sounds like an SNMP trap of sorts
[12:46] <micahg> sorry a little tired
[12:47] <micahg> fta: the idea sounds good, I'd prefer using ssh for something like this though, but I'm sure there can be uses for all the cases
[12:47] <fta> micahg, nope, snmp traps are different beast, agent->client informs type
[12:48] <fta> micahg, i use it over ssh myself, it's pretty good atm for my really bad adsl connection
[12:48] <micahg> ah, makes sense
[12:49] <fta> i especially love indestructible ssh shells on my secure servers
[12:49] <micahg> heh
[12:51] <fta> flappy takes care of remote opening my firewall for the new ip i get from my isp and i use my tmux+ssh wrapper so i never lose the work i'm doing remotely
[12:52] <fta> i wrote a few scripts to help various apps deal with offline / online events
[12:53]  * micahg needs to learn to scripts problems away
[12:59] <fta> i should probably hurry to publish my sources somewhere and ask for feedbacks
[13:22] <micahg> chrisccoulson: I'm assuming we want to switch cairo on for Seamonkey in Maverick only as a last resort?
[13:24] <chrisccoulson> micahg - yeah, but we're probably at the last resort already ;)
[13:24] <chrisccoulson> fta - flappy sounds better than flaky
[13:25] <micahg> chrisccoulson: ugh, i still need to write that patch :(, we have another week
[13:25] <chrisccoulson> i wouldn't want to use a piece of software that was called flaky ;)
[13:25] <chrisccoulson> micahg - oh, you have a patch for it?
[13:25] <fta> :) ok, thanks
[13:26] <micahg> chrisccoulson: no, but I know what needs to be done to fix it, the code just scares me a little
[13:26] <chrisccoulson> oh, ok. well, i can help with that
[13:26] <micahg> chrisccoulson: you wanna give it a shot?
[13:26] <chrisccoulson> yeah, i don't mind
[13:26] <chrisccoulson> hmmm, kvm is busted :(
[13:27] <micahg> chrisccoulson: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla1.9.1/ident?i=mThebesSurface
[13:27] <chrisccoulson> micahg - ok, thanks
[13:27] <micahg> chrisccoulson: widget/src/gtk2/nsWindow.cpp   <-- mThebesSurface needs to be removed
[13:28] <micahg> chrisccoulson: should be steps to reproduce in the seamonkey bug in LP, patch goes on mozilla 522635, request review from karlt
[13:28] <ubot2> Mozilla bug 522635 in Widget: Gtk "RenderBadPicture fatal error closing tab" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=522635
[13:28] <micahg> chrisccoulson: thanks
[13:28]  * micahg is off to sleep now
[17:30] <gnomefreak> chrisccoulson: bug 648695 is not fixed
[17:30] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 648695 in virtkey (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 1 other project) "package python-virtkey (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: file does not exist: /usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/python_virtkey-0.60.0.egg-info (affects: 174) (dups: 109) (heat: 1200)" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/648695
[17:30] <chrisccoulson> gnomefreak, hmmm, it's fixed here
[17:30] <gnomefreak> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/virtkey/+bug/648695/comments/26
[17:30] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 648695 in virtkey (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 1 other project) "package python-virtkey (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: file does not exist: /usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/python_virtkey-0.60.0.egg-info (affects: 174) (dups: 109) (heat: 1200)" [Critical,Fix released]
[17:31] <gnomefreak> see my comment
[17:31] <chrisccoulson> gnomefreak, you're still trying to install the old version
[17:31] <gnomefreak> chrisccoulson: that is what i got from dist-upgrade this morning (maverick -> maverick upgrade
[17:31] <gnomefreak> running update again
[17:32] <chrisccoulson> gnomefreak, yes, the fix was only uploaded about an hour or so ago
[17:32] <gnomefreak> chrisccoulson: ok thanks im trying again
[17:36] <gnomefreak> chrisccoulson: sorry still broken here
[17:36] <chrisccoulson> gnomefreak, which version?
[17:37] <gnomefreak> Setting up python-virtkey (0.60.0-0ubuntu1)
[17:37] <chrisccoulson> that's still the old version
[17:37] <gnomefreak> using dist-upgrade and --configure -a
[17:37] <gnomefreak> chrisccoulson: than the upgrade isnt taking here that is why old version
[17:38] <gnomefreak> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of onboard:
[17:38] <gnomefreak>  onboard depends on python-virtkey (>= 0.60.0); however:
[17:38] <gnomefreak>   Package python-virtkey is not configured yet.
[17:38] <chrisccoulson> gnomefreak, it's still the old version because the new version hasn't built
[17:38] <gnomefreak> than it shyouldnt be fix released since its not released
[17:39] <chrisccoulson> well, that's how launchpad has always worked. if you think it's wrong, then report a bug against launchpad ;)
[17:39] <chrisccoulson> bugs are automatically closed when we upload packages
[17:40] <gnomefreak> yeah i know how it works
[19:21] <cyphermox> micahg, apparently you had an idea to have seamonkey work with system cairo?
[19:22] <micahg> cyphermox: yeah, switching cairo off will be our last resort, mThebesSurface needs to be removed from 1.9.1, chrisccoulson said he'd tried to get a patch done
[19:23] <cyphermox> ah ok
[19:56] <fta> i remember a discussion about chromium translations and launchpad, anyone remembering what it was? or when?
[20:09] <fta> jdstrand, hi, how long before chromium .62 moves to -security? (~8d in -proposed already)
[21:01] <micahg> chrisccoulson_: do you know who this rpolach is?
[21:03] <chrisccoulson_> micahg - no idea, whats he doing?
[21:04] <micahg> fiddling with extension-list on the wiki for Lucid
[21:04] <micahg> I'm about to send an email
[21:04] <chrisccoulson_> oh, i hadn't noticed
[21:05]  * chrisccoulson_ thought he was subscribed to that
[21:13] <micahg> chrisccoulson_: BTW, WRT bug 550222 wolfIR has a patch to pick up LANGUAGE instead of LANG, so it's not just that preference
[21:13] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 550222 in firefox (Ubuntu) (and 3 other projects) "Firefox interface language set to LANG, ignores LANGUAGE (affects: 14) (dups: 3) (heat: 90)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/550222
[21:14] <chrisccoulson_> micahg - yeah, i saw that too
[21:26] <micahg> jdstrand: I got this on apparmor upgrade http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/501750/, should I file a bug?
[21:34] <BUGabundo> evening
[21:41] <jdstrand> micahg: that isn't an apparmor bug I don't think. mountall is what creates /var/run/utmp (see /etc/init/mounted-varrun.conf)
[21:55] <micahg> jdstrand: should I file a bug against mountall?
[21:56] <jdstrand> micahg: sure
[21:58] <micahg> jdstrand: k, thanks
[22:05] <debfx> micahg: https://code.launchpad.net/~debfx/firefox/firefox-4.0-kde/+merge/36791
[22:05] <debfx> I have only tested it with 4.0b6 though
[22:06] <micahg> debfx: thanks