Sarvattbryceh: i think i found your dream video card - http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/30/powercolor-hd5970-eyefinity-12-makes-six-screens-yesterdays-new/00:28
Sarvattcrossfire 2 of those bad boys :)00:28
RAOFHow many non-DP monitors can it drive?00:36
andrewacltRAOF, the issue I'm having is worse in the vanilla kernel, rather than unfreezing after 2-4 minutes, it stays frozen...left it for 30 minutes before rebooting.00:44
RAOFandrewaclt: I'd suggest popping up in #intel-gfx.00:52
andrewacltI'm more than happy to debug it and try and write a patch for it, but I'm over my head when it comes to xorg/gfx drivers.00:53
andrewacltRAOF, thanks00:53
RAOFickle's the man to talk to.00:58
ScottKRAOF: I just accepted a kdebase-workpace upload the has some kwin fixes in it.  They are limited to fixes inside the blur effect, so I don't think it will have any impact on the changes you all have been pursuing, but FYI.01:02
RAOFScottK: Want to test the new -intel that doesn't segfault on logout and actually works when you log in the second time?01:04
ScottKRAOF: Yes, but probably not until my morning.01:05
RAOFAnyone feel like some mesa & intel DDX sponsorship?07:33
mvoRAOF: where is the diff?08:11
mvoRAOF: I can do that08:11
RAOFmvo: http://cooperteam.net/Packages/08:11
mvoRAOF: looking now08:17
RAOFThanks muchly!08:17
mvoRAOF: that "e30f0338" is directly applied and not a quilt patch is intentional, right? because you maintain the thing full-source in git?08:29
RAOFmvo: Right.  That's the pkg-xorg way.08:29
mvook, thanks. its fine, I upload now08:29
tseliotmvo: are you migrating nvidia-173 and -96 to nouveau on dist-upgrades? Or are you only doing it for -71?11:06
mvotseliot: it will only migrate if no /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/nvidia_drv.so is there anymore after the upgrade11:08
tseliotmvo: that would work, as long as nvidia-173 and nvidia-96 are removed by the upgrade as they won't provide xserver-xorg-video-8. Can you confirm that this is what happens?11:13
mvotseliot: I can run a test upgrade with them, sure11:15
tseliotmvo: that would really help. I just want to make sure that X is not removed11:16
OwaisLhello X people... what is the state of Intel GM 965 and clutter? Anyone know?14:27
Sarvattthat should be the most supported chipset with regards to clutter, but it is clutter.. :)14:28
OwaisLso the bug is in clutter not the drivers..?14:29
Sarvatti'm not aware of any issues with that combination at the moment14:29
Sarvattwhat bug?14:29
OwaisLwell, mutter apps don't run on 96514:30
OwaisLUnity, Shell14:30
OwaisLthey work if CLUTTER_VBLANK=none14:30
Sarvattdo you have a bug on launchpad? 14:30
OwaisLi think yes14:30
OwaisLit's almost a year old14:31
OwaisLthere is another issue on Unity14:31
OwaisLwith 96514:31
Sarvattwhat distro? because 965 is well tested on current maverick14:31
Sarvatterr what release rather14:31
OwaisLthe launcher crashes on a mouseover... but someone is working on it14:31
OwaisLI'm on maverick.. with lastest updates14:31
Sarvattits most likely something odd with your specific setup, can you file a new bug on launchpad with ubuntu-bug xorg so we can see your logs?14:32
Sarvattthe launcher crashing on mouseover is most likely a unity bug, but needing CLUTTER_VBLANK=none to start shouldn't still be happening at the moment..14:34
OwaisLI don't think so.. I think lots of people have it.. I'll look for a bug on LP and file it if it is not there14:34
SarvattRAOF: looks like your KDE problem has been around for a long time now.. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=951777114:44
OwaisLSarvatt: while file should i attach? Xorg.log ?14:50
SarvattOwaisL: if you just run ubuntu-bug xorg in a terminal it'll attach everything for you14:50
OwaisLSarvatt: Your gdm log files may help developers diagnose the bug, but may contain sensitive information.  14:51
OwaisLwhat could it contain14:51
OwaisLmy login pass at most14:51
Sarvattno, thats not really true anymore, it contains your /var/log/Xorg.0.log as well as any console error output for GDM14:52
Sarvattit used to have ~/.xsession-errors that could have like the names of the mp3 files you were playing in it14:52
OwaisLnot a problem14:53
Sarvattthose logs are really helpful though, they have a deeper history of previous xorg.0.log's than x stores14:53
OwaisLSarvatt: here you go https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/64892814:59
ubot4Launchpad bug 648928 in xorg (Ubuntu) "Cannot use Unity or Shell with Intel 965GM (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]14:59
Sarvattthanks OwaisL 15:04
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Sarvattchrisccoulson: you're on gm965 right? are you having any problems starting unity with current maverick?15:10
chrisccoulsonSarvatt, i've not tried it today15:12
chrisccoulsonone second15:12
Sarvattlooks like https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mutter/+bug/648625 is similar for the right click crash, people want to blame mesa but thats not mesa..15:14
ubot4Launchpad bug 648625 in unity (Ubuntu) (and 2 other projects) "mutter crashed with SIGSEGV in g_strconcat() (affects: 1) (heat: 12)" [Undecided,New]15:14
chrisccoulsonSarvatt, yeah, unity just crashes here15:18
AzelphurHi, someone told me it's possible to join 2 Twinview sessions together with xrandr to create one big screen without xinerama, is this possible? :)15:24
victorpRAOF - been told by tseliot that you are the person to ask about a monitor problem I am having with 10.415:37
tseliotor Sarvatt (RAOF lives in Australia, therefore I think it's a little late there)15:39
victorpah ok!15:39
victorpno ofense meant Sarvatt :)15:40
victorpback in a sec15:41
jcristaumight be useful to say what the problem is rather than hope people will guess15:43
tseliothe has a dell vostro 3300 with intel graphics, running 10.4 - and connected to an external monitor (via VGA) the external monitor is flickering/wavering constantly15:45
tseliotI thought of a pipe underrun but there's no trace in the logs15:45
tseliotdmesg: http://pastebin.com/nrNe7rQS15:46
tseliotXorg.0.log: http://pastebin.com/vZ3LNVvs15:46
jcristaui don't think you'd get anything in the log if you don't enable some sort of debug option15:46
jcristaueven if it was pipe underrun15:47
victorpback now15:47
tseliotvictorp: I have explained what kind of problem you are experiencing15:49
tseliotjcristau: I thought he would have had something like this in the log: (EE) intel(0): underrun on pipe A!15:50
jcristautseliot: not on kms15:51
tseliotjcristau: aah, right, kms. What level of drm debugging do you suggest?15:52
tseliot1 may be a bit excessive15:53
Sarvatt4 would have the equivalent15:54
tseliotvictorp: can you type the following command, please?15:55
tseliotecho 4 | sudo tee /sys/module/drm/parameters/debug15:55
tseliotas Sarvatt suggested15:55
tseliotthen "echo 0 | sudo tee /sys/module/drm/parameters/debug"15:55
Sarvatttrying to find any bugs with the same issue15:56
victorptseliot - done, and now?15:57
tseliotvictorp: please pastebin your dmesg again15:57
tseliotvictorp: it should be more verbose now15:57
victorpok - so restart first then :)15:58
tseliotvictorp: why?15:58
victorptseliot - ok15:59
tseliotvictorp: it should be fine as long as you did as I told you while the external monitor was connected and flickering15:59
tseliotI mean, the current dmesg15:59
tseliot(without rebooting)16:00
victorpflickering all the time16:00
victorpnon-stop wave16:00
tseliotvictorp: maybe disable the external screen, then "echo 4 | sudo tee /sys/module/drm/parameters/debug", enable the external screen and let it flicker and finally "echo 0 | sudo tee /sys/module/drm/parameters/debug" and post your dmesg again16:05
Sarvattvictorp: can you try with a newer kernel to be sure the problem isn't fixed upstream already and help narrow it down if so? http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.36-rc5-maverick/16:06
Sarvattfound some upstream bugs - https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2830616:07
ubot4Freedesktop bug 28306 in DRM/Intel "[Arrandale] VGA output buggy (wavering/out-of-phase-ness)" [Major,New]16:07
victorpSarvatt - I am running 10.4 at the moment but I will upgrade to maverik today - then I can also try rc516:08
tseliotI think you can try that kernel in lucid too16:08
victorpcant see it in the mainline16:09
victorpyou mean just use the same kernel build in lucid?16:09
ubot4Freedesktop bug 28858 in Driver/intel "[Arrandale] external monitor flicker" [Normal,Resolved: duplicate]16:09
Sarvattyeah you can just install the kernel there on lucid, the maverick part means its using the maverick kernel config options16:10
victorpok - I will try that now16:10
Sarvattvictorp: Hmm, can you try running at a 75hz refresh rate resolution to see if it goes away?16:35
Sarvattoh he's gone16:35
victorpsarvatt I tried the kernel you suggested and also Maverick beta from a CD still have the continous flicker16:47
Sarvattvictorp: do you have any 75hz+ refresh rate resolutions available on the vga output? can you see if they work properly?16:48
victorpthey dont on 2.6.32  - would need to try 2.6.36 would that make a difference?16:50
Sarvattnah thats ok, saw someone in another bug saying 75hz+ worked fine on the lucid kernel so its not the same at least16:50
victorpseem that 28858 was closed as a duplicate of https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2830616:52
ubot4Freedesktop bug 28306 in DRM/Intel "[Arrandale] VGA output buggy (wavering/out-of-phase-ness)" [Major,New]16:52
victorpwhich seems still open?16:52
Sarvattyeah dupe isn't really closed, its still tracked on the open bug16:54
victorpany thought? it seems that the bug has plenty of logs already16:55
Sarvatti'm at a loss, asking over in #intel-gfx, you may want to join there in case someone responds16:58
brycehSarvatt, good god man17:13
brycehSarvatt, 12 monitors?  drool...17:13
victorpSarvatt - any luck?17:24
Sarvattno nothing yet, I'm sorry17:31
victorpno worries, let me know if something comes up17:32
Sarvattwould anyone be willing to take a look at https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/649137 to see if it is sane? 18:46
ubot4Launchpad bug 649137 in compiz (Ubuntu) "Compiz Sandybridge blacklist is no longer needed. (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]18:46
Sarvattsorry for all of the compiz uploads, we didn't decide to just disable DRI completely on them until recently in hopes it would be working in 7.9 like we were told18:47
brycehSarvatt, what got blacklisted?19:05
Sarvattall sandybridge GPU's19:07
Sarvatti just blacklisted them in compiz so the desktop would come up but that only fixed ubuntu-desktop, intel was saying 3D would be working for the Q3 release (mesa 7.9) but it isn't going to happen so we disabled DRI completely on them19:08
Sarvattmesa 7.9 rc1 released19:13
Sarvattfinal due october 4th19:14
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