[00:04] <Riddell> eMyller: I've no idea what a ck-patched kernel is
[00:05] <lex79> Con Kolivas I think
[01:31] <CIA-116> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1180433 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/src/worker/ (worker.cpp worker.h) (log message trimmed)
[01:31] <CIA-116> Do less in the worker constructor in an attempt to prevent timing errors that
[01:31] <CIA-116> cause the worker to never send responses to DBus requests. (GUI hang on high
[04:12] <rgreening> Riddell: I agree with JontheEchidna. If there's a suitable licence and not default, we will be fine, I should think,
[08:51] <\sh> guys, I was contacted by someone yesterday night, regarding bug #593038 (stellarium)...the question is, why we didn't updated the package to the latest release? if someone runs stellarium with a non C locale , it looks like it crashes...and the new version 0.10.5 looks like to fix those issues
[08:52] <\sh> question is, if we should go with a new version which fixes the bug and I'll try to push an FFe for it
[08:53] <Riddell> I've never heard of stellarium
[08:53] <Riddell> if there's a fix, then go for it
[08:54] <\sh> Riddell: well the fix is a new upstream minor release version...people already packaged it in the ppa...
[08:56] <\sh> but I'm also thinking it's too late now...and we should push the new version to natty and then backport it to maverick..
[08:57] <persia> \sh, My recommendation would be to update it if it fixes some critical bugs, unless it also introduces a lot of new features.
[08:58] <\sh> persia: ok...I'll give it a try :) damn, I shouldn't promise people things which end up in work for me ;)
[09:00] <\sh> *shock* 36MB source tar.gz this is evil...and I still have round about 10 packages to ftbfs fix on my todo
[09:08] <Riddell> claydoh: are you able to make an RC page?
[09:51] <debfx> has anyone else noticed that kpackagekit displays a "?" icon when updating the package information?
[09:52] <Riddell> debfx: yes, dantti_work says he's looking at it
[09:59] <debfx> ah good, I had a brief look at the code but couldn't find anything wrong
[10:14] <\sh> Riddell: bug #649662
[10:18] <Riddell> \sh: approved
[10:19] <\sh> Riddell: ok..uploading :) 
[10:19] <\sh> Riddell: thx a lot
[10:21] <\sh> Riddell: can you confirm it, regarding the process for FFe new upstream versions? thx :)
[10:21] <Riddell> done
[10:22] <\sh> Riddell: *hug* :)
[10:22] <\sh> this makes some more people happy :)
[10:43] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: we will make a video player today ^^
[10:44] <ulysses> Something wrong with Quassel or it's translation: http://people.ubuntu.com/~ulysses/quassel3.png
[11:08] <apachelogger> hm
[11:08] <apachelogger> https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/+source/quassel/+pots/quassel/hu/176/+translate
[11:08] <apachelogger> Sput: conversion issue?
[11:08] <apachelogger> couldnt you just use my gettexttranslator :P
[11:08] <Sput> apachelogger: al manages all that!
[11:09] <apachelogger> al must use it then :P
[11:09] <al> what's the matter with that translation?
[11:11] <al> i don't speak hungry ;)
[11:11] <apachelogger> al: http://people.ubuntu.com/~ulysses/quassel3.png
[11:11] <apachelogger> in your hu.po it ends up as crappery
[11:12] <apachelogger> http://paste.ubuntu.com/502045/
[11:13] <ulysses> A fuzzy message appears on the GUI of the program? o.O
[11:18] <al> apachelogger: that was probably a merge error
[11:25] <ulysses> it's very annoying, both Lucid and Maverick is affected
[12:15] <ScottK> Riddell: I'll be offline until at least midnight UTC, so have a fun day release candidate wrangling.
[12:15] <Riddell> have a nice day ScottK 
[12:15] <Riddell> ** Kubuntu 10.10 RC Candidates need testing, http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/
[12:16] <ikonia> I know about jussi (congrats) but what happened to rbelem
[12:16] <Riddell> same thing
[12:17] <ikonia> cool, congrats to both then
[12:34]  * Riddell gets three spam e-mails for an RMB without any mention of what an RMB is
[12:37] <apachelogger> Riddell: random music band?
[12:37]  * apachelogger sends hugs and congrats to jussi and rbelem
[12:38] <apachelogger> woah, one can start plasmoids via krunner now :O
[12:47] <al> weren't you going to SRU choqok?
[12:49] <Riddell> dunno, shadeslayer was looking into choqok
[12:51] <al> there's probably still this consumerkey issue, but it's not like you could worsen anything, since it's not working at all (with twitter) atm
[12:51] <Riddell> smelly twitter
[12:55] <al> the http basic auth they used before had to die though
[12:55] <al> so they basically went from noisome to smelly
[12:58] <rgreening> Regional Membership Board?
[12:59] <rgreening> Really mean Bear
[13:02] <Riddell> Right Mouse Button I thought
[13:03] <shadeslayer> al: yes im looking into it, but im still concerned about the consumer key issue
[13:04] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: wheee... good, i sort of figured out how to hide my download UI, layout->setEnabled(false) :P
[13:04] <apachelogger> that is not hide
[13:04] <apachelogger> that is disable
[13:04] <apachelogger> setEnabled(bool) vs setVisible(bool)
[13:05] <shadeslayer> well.. it does the trick ^_^
[13:05] <shadeslayer> ( hides the UI for the user )
[13:06] <apachelogger> you are doing weird things right there
[13:06] <shadeslayer> whai?
[13:06] <apachelogger> cause you disable to hide :P
[13:07] <apachelogger> that code is bound to not be understandable
[13:07] <shadeslayer> what do you suggest then? :)
[13:07] <apachelogger> much like what I did yesterday :D :D :D
[13:07] <shadeslayer> also
[13:07] <shadeslayer> your CMake thingy doesnt not work :(
[13:07] <apachelogger> phonon::viewwidget in qgraphicswidgetproxy thing and then shipped that off to qml and then used that in qml
[13:07] <shadeslayer> i forget what its called
[13:07] <apachelogger> which of course only works in phonon-gst and phonon-vlc because xine cannot draw frame-by-frame
[13:08] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: what cmake thingy?
[13:08] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: http://apachelog.wordpress.com/2010/09/27/qt-creator-cmake-wizards/
[13:08] <apachelogger> sure it does
[13:08] <shadeslayer> CMake Wizards
[13:08] <shadeslayer> it does not :S
[13:08] <apachelogger> why would it not work
[13:08] <shadeslayer> you tell me
[13:08] <shadeslayer> you made it :P
[13:08] <apachelogger> use a proper creator and it will work :P
[13:09] <shadeslayer> its 2.0.1 :P
[13:09] <apachelogger> well
[13:09] <apachelogger> strace it
[13:09] <shadeslayer> Qt Creator 2.0.1, Based on Qt 4.7.0 (64 bit)
[13:09] <Sput> which reminds me, I need to file a UI bug for creator
[13:09] <Sput> this popup dialog for rerunning cmake is very very annoying
[13:10] <apachelogger> ack
[13:10] <apachelogger> also the default bulild dir being in ../ is eww IMHO
[13:10] <Sput> and completely unnecessary
[13:10] <Sput> because creator could just silently rereun cmake
[13:10] <Sput> *rerun
[13:11] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: http://paste.ubuntu.com/502088/
[13:12] <shadeslayer> hmm
[13:12] <shadeslayer> should i apply for a RMB position
[13:12] <shadeslayer> theres a position open in my region 
[13:13] <shadeslayer> oh! they even mailed me personally ... :D
[13:14] <Riddell> lucky you
[13:14] <Riddell> they e-mailed me personally three times
[13:15] <shadeslayer> Riddell: oooh
[13:15] <shadeslayer> Riddell: are you on one?
[13:16] <Riddell> nope, although I'm on the kubuntu-council which also does membership
[13:16]  * shadeslayer thinks about it some more
[13:20]  * Sput has filed http://bugreports.qt.nokia.com/browse/QTCREATORBUG-2487
[13:20] <Sput> let's see if it gets ignored as usual
[13:25] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: found something in strace?
[13:26] <al> Sput: maybe if you attached a patch... ;-)
[13:26] <Sput> al: or even a MR!
[13:26] <Sput> wait, now I feel treated like an end-user :(
[13:27] <shadeslayer> hehehe :P
[13:28] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: you did not install it :P
[13:28] <shadeslayer> :S
[13:28] <apachelogger> there is no trace in the strace ^^
[13:28] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: re-re-installed
[13:28] <shadeslayer> i dont suppose i need sudo?
[13:28] <apachelogger> of course you need sudo
[13:28] <apachelogger> ...
[13:29] <shadeslayer> ah maybe thats why 
[13:29] <apachelogger> yeah
[13:29] <apachelogger> script doesnt shout because some loon did a 2> /dev/null
[13:29] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: your installer is fail :S
[13:29] <apachelogger> it is no installer it is a copy script
[13:30] <shadeslayer> it should scream at you
[13:30] <shadeslayer> if it cant copy
[13:30] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: works now
[13:30] <apachelogger> I rely on educated users :P
[13:30] <smarter> heya
[13:30] <smarter> any chance I can upload a fix for QApt?
[13:30] <apachelogger> smarter: needs exception from Riddell
[13:30] <apachelogger> and need to be super important I suppose
[13:31] <smarter> In some circumstances(well, most of the time in my experience), it ignored the dpkg lock
[13:31] <smarter> downloaded packages, failed to install them and happily reported they were installed
[13:31] <Riddell> smarter: uploads fine, they will get reviewed after RC on Thursday
[13:31] <shadeslayer> hehe
[13:32] <smarter> Riddell: I'll wait for JonTheEchidna to get back, make sure I didn't misunderstood something
[13:32] <smarter> (thanks!)
[13:33] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: also what do you suggest to truly hide the UI? hide every widget one by one? 
[13:34] <apachelogger> hiding is recursive
[13:34] <apachelogger> if you hide a parent all children will be hidden too
[13:35] <shadeslayer> my parent widget is in main.cpp :S
[13:35] <apachelogger> wah?
[13:35] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: http://gitorious.org/qzsync/qzsync/blobs/master/main.cpp#line31
[13:35] <apachelogger> and you do not have access to the code of Widget, right? :S
[13:36] <shadeslayer> and all my child widgets are made from widget.cpp with a constructor
[13:36] <apachelogger> I still wonder why you want to hide Widget anyway
[13:36] <apachelogger> that way you hide the mainwindow
[13:36] <apachelogger> and have a uiless app, what point would that have?
[13:37] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: hide download window > show new progressbar window
[13:37] <shadeslayer> or
[13:37] <apachelogger> eh?
[13:37] <apachelogger> ewww
[13:37] <shadeslayer> i could just shove a new Progress bar at the bottom of my download UI
[13:37] <apachelogger> you have on window
[13:37] <apachelogger> and in that window you exchange the widgets
[13:39] <apachelogger> Window::Window(){ setLayout(new QVBoxLayout(this)); layout()->addWidget(new DownloadWidget(this));}
[13:40] <apachelogger> at some latter point then
[13:41] <apachelogger> Window::showProgress(){ layout()->removeItem(layout()->takeAt(0)); layout()->addwidget(new ProgressWidget(this));}
[13:42] <apachelogger> ultimately you'd have the widgets in members though, so you can call deleteLater() on the transition
[13:42] <shadeslayer> ah
[13:42] <shadeslayer> thats more like it :D
[13:43] <shadeslayer> ok ill lookie into it
[13:43] <apachelogger> ihhh
[13:43] <apachelogger> actually remoteItem and takeAt is duplicated
[13:43] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: all prepped up for tonights session ?
[13:43] <apachelogger> just use takeAt
[13:43] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: no :P
[13:43] <shadeslayer> right ... :P
[13:43] <apachelogger> I have a 5k line notes file with no order or structure or anything
[13:44] <apachelogger> all I know is that we will have a lot to do with videos
[13:44] <apachelogger> oh
[13:44] <shadeslayer> phonon++
[13:44]  * apachelogger should pack for travel
[13:44] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/60/Debian-package-cycl.svg :: lulz
[13:44] <apachelogger> oh
[13:44] <apachelogger> ohhhh
[13:45] <claydoh> Riddell: yes I amgoing to do an rc page, even set myself remiders for it :)
[13:46] <shadeslayer> ciao for now from my side :)
[13:46] <apachelogger> aha
[13:46]  * apachelogger messed up his schedule
[13:46] <apachelogger> for some reason that talk is in my korganizer at 21 local rather than 19 local
[13:46] <apachelogger> that is a bit screwy
[13:48] <claydoh> Riddell: I still need to list any known issues, but other than listing upgrade testing there won't be much new from the beta page
[13:48] <Riddell> claydoh: KPackageKit has a nice new application focused view
[13:49]  * claydoh is already planning the Final notes, wants enm to be snazzy
[13:49] <apachelogger> hm
[13:49] <Riddell> we could do with a countdown image
[13:50] <claydoh> Riddell: yes, I think I had that in the Beta page, but will keep that , plus all the major things already mentioned as more folks wil be trying the rc
[13:51] <Riddell> no it's new since beta
[13:51] <apachelogger> eeek
[13:51]  * apachelogger does not go to graz today but tomorrow -.-
[13:52] <apachelogger> what a misscheduling -.-
[13:52] <claydoh> Riddell: oh, yes, it is even better looking now. Should use it more often.
[13:53] <claydoh> wow!
[14:00] <Riddell> afiestas: graz?
[14:01] <Riddell> apachelogger: rather ^^
[14:01] <apachelogger> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graz
[14:02] <Riddell> funky staircase http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Grazer_Schlossberg_Kriegssteig.jpg  what's happening in Graz?
[14:02] <apachelogger> Riddell: studies
[14:03] <Riddell> no getting away from them
[14:03]  * apachelogger notes that people actually *run* up that staircase
[14:11] <afiestas> Riddell: :o?
[14:14]  * claydoh needs to update some help wiki pages for maverick
[14:22] <claydoh> should there be a button to check for updates in kpk?
[14:23] <claydoh> there is a right-click option for that, but I have no button
[14:25] <claydoh> and the default for update checking is set to one week, am I correct?
[14:31] <dantti> claydoh: is that too bad (not having a check for updates button)? It just that having just one button in that page seemed wast of space :P
[14:33] <claydoh> dantti: no, I was just checking - going to update some pages on help.ubuntu.com for maverick as there will be some changes :)
[14:33] <dantti> claydoh: ok :) 
[14:34] <claydoh> some will gripe surely :( but I am not ;)
[14:35] <claydoh> most won't use that section until there are actual updates
[15:05] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: eh.. what is this? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Graz_Kunsthaus_vom_Schlossberg_20061126.jpg ..
[15:05] <shadeslayer> looks like a whale of sorts "{
[15:05] <shadeslayer> :P
[15:11] <apachelogger> ^^
[15:41] <apachelogger> something is broken with my kmix
[15:41] <apachelogger> strange
[15:41] <apachelogger> ever since i removed pulse it does not appear anymore
[15:57] <ofirk> hi to all :)
[15:58] <ofirk> I saw the email regarding RC testing
[15:58] <ofirk> I want to test the upgrade from 10.04 LTS to 10.10
[15:59] <ofirk> However, I would like first to hear about issues that I can encounter during the upgrade
[16:00] <Riddell> catch 22 there, we don't know until it's tested
[16:00] <Riddell> but see http://tinyurl.com/33p7vu3 for the bugs we know about
[16:00] <Riddell> upgrade with these instructions https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MaverickUpgrades/Kubuntu
[16:01] <ofirk> Do I need to report some data to http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com ?
[16:03] <Riddell> ofirk: yes please
[16:04] <Riddell> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/test/4575 or http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/test/4574 as appropriate
[16:07] <drdanz> Hi! where is the right place to report bugs about kubuntu ppa and kubuntu backports ppa?
[16:08] <ofirk> Riddell: I see the instructions and post-upgrade tests are for Ubuntu. Are there some specific Kubuntu tests?
[16:08] <ofirk> here: http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/Testing/Cases/DesktopUpgrade
[16:08] <Riddell> instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MaverickUpgrades/Kubuntu
[16:08] <ofirk> oh, just saw the KubuntuDesktop link (http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/Testing/Cases/KubuntuDesktop_
[16:09] <agateau> debfx: hi, I am having problem to build Amarok on Maverick: http://pastebin.com/YyykHG2K seems like lastfm is being annoying... any idea?
[16:09] <ofirk> the correct link is: http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/Testing/Cases/KubuntuDesktop
[16:09] <Riddell> agateau: hmm, I added a patch to liblastfm recently
[16:10] <Riddell> that might be the cause
[16:10] <agateau> Riddell: do you have the url to this liblastfm patch?
[16:10] <yofel> drdanz: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/+filebug
[16:10]  * rbelem hugs back ikonia and apachelogger :-D
[16:11] <yofel> drdanz: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/+filebug rather
[16:11] <Riddell> agateau: http://github.com/mxcl/liblastfm/commit/39ea77f9f20ff3de820e837d54bb9202b07121cd
[16:11] <drdanz> yofel: ok, thanks!
[16:11] <ofirk> ok, I'm starting the upgrade
[16:11] <rbelem> brb
[16:12] <ofirk> wish me luck!
[16:12] <agateau> Riddell: notes on the commit confirms the build fail
[16:12] <drdanz> yofel: Is it the same for both ppa and backport ppa?
[16:13] <yofel> afaik yes
[16:15] <agateau> Riddell: this commit should fix it: http://github.com/lfranchi/liblastfm/commit/11f1d2ceafaab1e6df420c0e75c5e7490cee2435
[16:18] <debfx> from what branch is liblastfm 0.4.0~git20090710?
[16:19] <Riddell> agateau: good find, needs to wait until after RC on Thursday I'm afraid
[16:19] <agateau> Riddell: ok
[16:19] <Riddell> debfx: I did wonder the same thing, it's from Debian
[16:19] <debfx> probably it's a version between 0.3.0 and 0.3.1 ^^
[16:19] <Riddell> it might just be trunk and they never bumped the version number as Debian expected
[16:20] <Riddell> mxcl is online if you want to check
[16:21] <Riddell> liblastfm is pretty confusing with its lack of any release page
[16:23] <debfx> yeah version has been switched from 0.4.0 to 0.3.1: http://github.com/mxcl/liblastfm/commit/3c863ebf96798e366fdd3b221b610aacc77a56d0
[16:25] <debfx> Riddell: it has a page with the source tarballs: http://github.com/mxcl/liblastfm/downloads
[16:26] <debfx> oh they seem to be auto-generated :D
[16:26] <agateau> debfx: yes, it's a weird github feature
[16:28] <Riddell> debfx: fancy packaging up 0.3.3 then?
[16:31] <debfx> Riddell: yes, i'll write a mail to the debian maintainer first so we don't end up with incompatible version numbers
[17:13] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: would line 102 of http://pastebin.com/guMGEZQn be correct?
[17:13]  * shadeslayer doesnt feel right about that line
[17:14] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: yes
[17:14] <shadeslayer> its correct?
[17:14] <apachelogger> BUT
[17:14] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: I'd use clicked() since close doesnt use the bool anyway
[17:15] <apachelogger> also, for explicities sake you might want to connect to qApp, SLOT(quit()) 
[17:15] <apachelogger> http://doc.qt.nokia.com/latest/qwidget.html#close
[17:16] <shadeslayer> mmkay
[17:16] <apachelogger> since close on the widget will not quit the eventloop i someone unset the last-windowclose foo
[17:16] <apachelogger> which of course it not the case, but using qApp's quit is simply more obvious to someone who is skimming through the file
[17:17] <shadeslayer> last-windowclose foo? 0_o
[17:17] <apachelogger> http://doc.qt.nokia.com/latest/qapplication.html#quitOnLastWindowClosed-prop
[17:18] <apachelogger> your app implicitly quits because it only had that one window
[17:18] <apachelogger> if there were another window (that is not parented by the one you close) the application would not really quit
[17:19] <shadeslayer> actually.. what quit does right now is quit the application and kill the process, because i dont have a progressbar
[17:20] <shadeslayer> so.. app runs > you put in foo.zsync > select place to download > and it enables quit button
[17:20] <shadeslayer> now i shall add a Progressbar somewhere above the quit button and when you click on quit it stops downloading
[17:21] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: well
[17:21] <apachelogger> quit == quit == exit the application :P
[17:22] <apachelogger> so if your quit button did anything else the name would be bogus ;)
[17:22] <shadeslayer> aye...
[17:23]  * shadeslayer is unsure how to connect to his progress bar
[17:24] <shadeslayer> bahaha
[17:26] <apachelogger> using connect() ^^
[17:26] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: also check out #ubuntu-devel .. people are talking about your blogz
[17:26] <apachelogger> haha
[17:26] <apachelogger> :P
[17:27] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: yeah, but i couldnt figure out reciever
[17:27] <apachelogger> well, depends on what you want to do I suppose ;)
[17:27] <shadeslayer> remove a few widgets from layout and add a progressbar
[17:28] <shadeslayer> but just hold on... lemme try :D
[17:29] <shadeslayer> hmm
[17:29] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: what do i use to display the zsync output?
[17:29] <shadeslayer> like kpk does
[17:29] <apachelogger> kpk?
[17:29] <apachelogger> doesnt that do something entirely different?
[17:29] <shadeslayer> yeah in show details dialog
[17:29] <apachelogger> like display progress bars for each download?
[17:30] <shadeslayer> you can see each package being configured and such
[17:30] <shadeslayer> its called terminal output in synaptic and such
[17:32] <apachelogger> qtextbrowser for example
[17:42] <dantti> shadeslayer: you need a custom delegate for that
[17:43] <shadeslayer> dantti: i just need to read the output of QProcess, dont scare me with big terms :D
[17:44] <apachelogger> dantti: I think his app does not qualify for a model/view at all ;)
[17:44] <CIA-116> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1180713 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/src/worker/ (org.kubuntu.qaptworker.xml worker.cpp worker.h) (log message trimmed)
[17:44] <CIA-116> Implement proper APT system locking for the QApt worker. This also fixes the
[17:44] <CIA-116> QApt worker not respecting APT system locks such as those put in place by
[17:44] <dantti> dantti: well if you want that kind of view you will need that, take a look at libkpackagekit/TransactionDelegate.cpp
[17:45] <dantti> apachelogger: well, I don't know his app so :P
[17:45] <shadeslayer> dantti: http://gitorious.org/qzsync ::
[17:47] <dantti> k, I have to fix kpk icons today, I'll take a look later :)
[17:47] <shadeslayer> oh sure :D
[17:47] <shadeslayer> some commits on their way :)
[17:47] <CIA-116> jmthomas * 1180714 * branches/stable/extragear-kde4/sysadmin/libqapt/src/worker/ (org.kubuntu.qaptworker.xml worker.cpp worker.h) Backport r1180713, implementing proper locking/fixing the "Doesn't respect APT system locks" bug
[17:51] <CIA-116> jmthomas * 1180717 * branches/stable/extragear-kde4/sysadmin/libqapt/CMakeLists.txt Bump version for impending bugfix release, 1.0.3
[17:55] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: http://pastebin.com/GWUfBtBQ :: my UI gets all messy
[17:55] <shadeslayer> see the progressBar() slot
[17:55] <shadeslayer> ( line 115 )
[17:56] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: talk in like 4 minutes!!!!!!!!!
[17:56] <shadeslayer> sure
[17:56] <apachelogger> hm
[17:56] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: you should dent about that
[17:56]  * apachelogger already shot choqok dead :P
[17:56] <shadeslayer> ah right
[17:56] <shadeslayer> likewise here
[17:57]  * shadeslayer does OAuth dance with choqok
[17:57] <debfx> qtcreator has a security vulnerability: bug #649991
[17:58] <debfx> I've attached debdiffs for karmic and lucid
[18:00] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: done
[18:07] <Riddell> debfx: great thanks, I'll ping the security team
[18:08] <Riddell> debfx: how about for maverick?
[18:08] <debfx> Riddell: 2.0.1 isn't affected
[18:08] <Riddell> debfx: please say so on the bug then
[18:17] <lucidfox> apachelogger, thumbs up on your post!
[18:21] <debfx> Riddell: ok, done
[18:29] <ofirk> Riddell: I finished the upgrade to RC and everything went fine
[18:29] <ofirk> I am checking the system to see that all softwares upgraded correctly too
[18:30] <ofirk> Riddell: However, there are 2 bugs that I want to report against the upgrade software
[18:30] <ofirk> Riddell: against which package I need to report these bugs?
[18:33] <ofirk> Riddell: report it against update-manager-core maybe (?)
[18:36] <ofirk> Riddell: the bugs are:
[18:36] <ofirk> The first bug is that when the upgrade starts the cleanup stage, there is a system notification to restart the computer. This might cause problems when someone doesn't pay too much attention to the upgrade and just presses restart. Maybe differ the notification to the end of the upgrade.
[18:37] <shadeslayer> ofirk: also
[18:37] <shadeslayer> hold on
[18:37] <shadeslayer> ofirk: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/timelord :: no pics
[18:37] <shadeslayer> can you fix0r that?
[18:38] <Riddell> ofirk: ubuntu-bug update-manager  should do it
[18:38] <ofirk> shadeslayer: I hope, I need the image...
[18:38] <shadeslayer> erm..
[18:38] <ofirk> Riddell: thanks :)
[18:38] <ofirk> I will try to find it :)
[18:39] <shadeslayer> ofirk: thanks... i cant find one on http://people.ubuntu.com/~apachelogger/
[18:40] <ofirk> found it: http://apachelog.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/timelord-400.jpg
[18:40] <ofirk> google knows all ;)
[18:40] <shadeslayer> :D
[18:44] <ofirk> I just forgot that we can't upload files ourselves...
[18:45] <ofirk> shadeslayer:  Do you think it is urgent to upload the image?
[18:45] <shadeslayer> ofirk: no.. i just found that image was missing
[18:45] <shadeslayer> thought you might want to know :)
[18:47] <ofirk> shadeslayer: oh, yes. thanks :)
[18:50] <claydoh> argh kdm keeps shutting down
[19:00] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: ok so i have http://imgur.com/X9JXp
[19:01] <shadeslayer> from  http://pastebin.com/UTy3MQ1P
[19:02] <shadeslayer> somehow my 2 qlineedits dont get deleted along with a Qcheckboz
[19:02] <shadeslayer> *box
[19:03] <apachelogger> that is because you have poor design :P
[19:03] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: you should have each of those things contained in individual classes
[19:03] <apachelogger> i.e. a class Window : public QWidget
[19:04] <apachelogger> and a class DownloadWidget : public QWidget
[19:04] <apachelogger> and a class ProgressWidget : public QWidget
[19:04] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: also with http://pastebin.com/udE9tyZg  it works fine
[19:04] <apachelogger> still poor design
[19:05] <shadeslayer> i do plan to move to that implementation during the holidays
[19:05] <shadeslayer> just need to wait 2 more days.. then i have 20 days worth of holidays :P
[19:05] <apachelogger> oh wellz
[19:05] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: the lineedits are parented by this
[19:06] <apachelogger> so you would have to delete them individually
[19:06] <apachelogger> seriously just moving the stuff to individual widgets would be way easier
[19:06] <apachelogger> also
[19:06] <shadeslayer> hmm
[19:06] <apachelogger> I think you should use a KDialog
[19:06] <apachelogger> KProgressDialog or what it is called
[19:07] <shadeslayer> QProgressDialog?
[19:07] <apachelogger> ah
[19:07] <apachelogger> right
[19:07] <apachelogger> you are Qt only
[19:07] <shadeslayer> QProgessBar 
[19:07] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: forget about it then
[19:07] <shadeslayer> about what? :D
[19:07] <apachelogger> KProgressDialog :P
[19:07] <shadeslayer> oic :D
[19:07] <apachelogger> it is a special dialog with multiple pages (widgets)
[19:07] <shadeslayer> i can migrate to it laterz
[19:07] <apachelogger> where you progress from one page to another super easily
[19:08] <apachelogger> then you would also need to have seperate widget implementation
[19:08] <shadeslayer> like you said above?
[19:08] <apachelogger> yes
[19:08]  * apachelogger thinks that the Qt talk was not so bad for a first timer
[19:08] <apachelogger> certainly needs work
[19:09] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: any feedback?
[19:09] <shadeslayer> needz more time :P
[19:09] <apachelogger> yeah
[19:09] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: +1
[19:09] <shadeslayer> class should be of like 90 mins
[19:09] <apachelogger> or I could just use more videos :P
[19:09] <shadeslayer> hehe
[19:09] <apachelogger> coding tuts are very difficult via irc and time limit anyway
[19:10] <apachelogger> which is why I dislike them so much
[19:10] <apachelogger> noww
[19:10] <apachelogger> when is my next talk
[19:10] <apachelogger> ah, thursday
[19:10] <shadeslayer> yeah ...
[19:11] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: you shall teach me qt @ uds from 5 PM onwards
[19:11] <shadeslayer> its finalized
[19:11] <shadeslayer> :>
[19:11] <apachelogger> I still dont have not tickets :S
[19:11] <apachelogger> oh dear oh dear
[19:11]  * apachelogger is so unorganized :/
[19:11] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: also, more like 3am onwards :P
[19:11] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: me neither... also i get reimbursed for them after UDS
[19:11] <apachelogger> 5pm to 3am is allocated to socializing
[19:12] <shadeslayer> ah...
[19:12] <shadeslayer> well.. we shall work 24 hours then
[19:12] <apachelogger> woah
[19:12]  * apachelogger moderates comments
[19:12] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: as if that were anything special for you :P
[19:12] <shadeslayer> :P
[19:13] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: im down to 16 hours now ... :P
[19:13]  * shadeslayer is becoming inefficient
[19:13] <shadeslayer> like my coding
[19:13] <shadeslayer> bulldog98: oh and heres a preview http://gitorious.org/qzsync
[19:14] <shadeslayer> bulldog98: http://pastebin.com/jq6PvYgZ :: a diff of the uncommited/not pushed work : http://pastebin.com/jq6PvYgZ
[19:15] <bulldog98> apachelogger: saw the template for your next talk. It looks interesting
[19:16] <shadeslayer> erm
[19:16] <apachelogger> bulldog98: where is that? :O
[19:16] <shadeslayer> rbelem: ssup?
[19:16] <bulldog98> apachelogger: googled it
[19:16] <bulldog98> 3rd link
[19:16]  * shadeslayer wonders what rbelem was up tp
[19:16] <apachelogger> googled what?
[19:16] <apachelogger> mind giving me the url?
[19:16] <rbelem> hum?
[19:16] <apachelogger> it is not like it were secret if google knows about it ^^
[19:16] <shadeslayer> rbelem: /topic
[19:17] <rbelem> ah! ok :-D
[19:17] <bulldog98> apachelogger: http://docs.google.com/present/view?id=ajk6csn6c2vn_53fj6c47f6
[19:17] <apachelogger> oh
[19:17] <apachelogger> bulldog98: that is from the old version
[19:17] <dantti> Riddell: kpackagekit is missing a dep libqt4-sql-sqlite :)  btw I just need to get rid of these question marks so that you can upload a new and more fixed package ...
[19:17] <shadeslayer> bulldog98: OLD!!!!
[19:17] <shadeslayer> like
[19:17] <apachelogger> on thursday you will get an improved version of that
[19:17] <shadeslayer> a year old
[19:17] <apachelogger> talks are like wine, hey need time
[19:17] <apachelogger> *they
[19:17] <rbelem> shadeslayer, i married and my girl will have a boy in two months more or less :-D
[19:17] <bulldog98> apachelogger: sounds interessting nevertheless
[19:18] <apachelogger> :)
[19:18] <shadeslayer> rbelem: oh.. congrats!!!
[19:18] <apachelogger> bulldog98: any additional feedback on the Qt one?
[19:18]  * shadeslayer knew about jussi
[19:19] <bulldog98> apachelogger: I don’t like qtcreater :P, but I thing it was a nice talk
[19:19] <apachelogger> dantti: is it fixed that the smarticon thingy has a question mark?
[19:19]  * rbelem needs to use more facebook and kicks orkut :-)
[19:19] <apachelogger> dantti: i.e. what comes up when I run pkcon install foo
[19:19] <shadeslayer> rbelem: yeah :P
[19:19] <apachelogger> qt creator is supreme!
[19:19] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: also.. why does KDE use the stupid plasma notification when copying gfiles
[19:19] <shadeslayer> *files
[19:19] <apachelogger> anyhow, primary choice pro qt creator is that it is cross-platform and part of the SDK
[19:20]  * shadeslayer wants old school copy dialog
[19:20] <apachelogger> and works super with qmake
[19:20] <shadeslayer> +1 to qtcreator
[19:20] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: I think you can turn off the plasma stuff somehow
[19:20] <bulldog98> +1 to kdevelop
[19:20] <shadeslayer> you just need to learn how to use it effectively :P
[19:20] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: right click on the (i)
[19:20] <apachelogger> got to the settings
[19:20] <apachelogger> untick the file transfer
[19:20] <yofel> shadeslayer: what's bad about the notification?
[19:21] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: tried kdevelop? git checkout is like supreme god
[19:21] <shadeslayer> yofel: id rather like a file copy dialog
[19:21] <shadeslayer> bulldog98: no :S
[19:21] <apachelogger> dantti: oh, the new update dialog is superb
[19:21] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: you can checkout kdemodules in the git version
[19:21] <apachelogger> bulldog98: qt creator has that since evar :P
[19:21] <apachelogger> along with support for about any other VCS
[19:21] <shadeslayer> yofel: also if plasma goes down, my 20 GB file transfer vanishes :S
[19:22] <yofel> heh
[19:22] <shadeslayer> and now
[19:22] <bulldog98> apachelogger: I only saw git and mercurial support
[19:22] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: I think the solution to that would be plasma not going down
[19:22] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: thats the ideal solution
[19:22] <apachelogger> bulldog98: and svn and cvs
[19:22] <shadeslayer> you never achieve idea solutions :P
[19:22] <shadeslayer> *ideal
[19:22] <bulldog98> apachelogger: kdevelop too
[19:22] <apachelogger> and I almost made bzr simply because bzr itself is so cumbersome
[19:22] <apachelogger> but then I got annoyed over bzr being so slow that I dropped that ^^
[19:23] <shadeslayer> also for eg. now when i click on the rotating plasma notification thing, it doesnt show me the speed
[19:23] <shadeslayer> no pop up dialog
[19:23] <shadeslayer> and yes i have "File transfers" checkbox enabled
[19:23] <yofel> it should slide open a progress bar with speed under the 'more' button
[19:23] <shadeslayer> yofel: it doesnt :)
[19:24] <yofel> (iirc)
[19:24] <yofel> :/
[19:24] <shadeslayer> get my point?
[19:24] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: socialising over Qt :P
[19:24] <bulldog98> apachelogger: http://home.kde.org/~akademy10/videos/KDevelop4-Milian_Wolff_and_Aleix_Pol.ogv do you know that?
[19:25] <apachelogger> yes
[19:25] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: silly :P
[19:27]  * apachelogger is wondeirng what happened to sheytan
[19:27]  * apachelogger is making a video player
[19:27] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: ok so after disabling that notification thingy i have no copy dialog :S
[19:27] <shadeslayer> its copying
[19:27] <shadeslayer> but .. no dialog
[19:27] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: well, for new copies you should get the dialog
[19:27] <apachelogger> not for existing ones I think
[19:27] <shadeslayer> im not
[19:27] <shadeslayer> its a new copy
[19:27] <apachelogger> lemme try
[19:28] <apachelogger> :o
[19:28] <apachelogger> me neither
[19:28] <apachelogger> BUG!!!!
[19:28] <shadeslayer> :D
[19:28] <shadeslayer> told ya
[19:28] <shadeslayer> also
[19:28] <apachelogger> report report report
[19:28] <shadeslayer> if you launch with kdesudo mode, you get dialog
[19:29] <apachelogger> maybe you need to logout and back in again
[19:29] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: lemme try that too
[19:31] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: bahahaha... works now
[19:31]  * shadeslayer proposes this as default config
[19:31] <apachelogger> bug report
[19:32]  * apachelogger likes the current default just fine
[19:32] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: will file tmmrw... sleep time :)
[19:32]  * shadeslayer notes that the common wealth games are falling apart and sleeps peacefully
[19:34]  * Riddell starts to worry, only 4 years until we have to host them
[19:35] <shadeslayer> Riddell: hehe.. the indian administration is lazy and pathetic ... the UK OC is going to be amazing :P
[19:35] <shadeslayer> some of the roads are still under construction here :S
[19:36] <dantti> apachelogger: yes, the question marks are mostly in the smart icon, (I really don't know yet why :) )
[19:36] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: oh oh oh ... how do i get a systray icon for my app? 
[19:36] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: qsystemtray
[19:36] <shadeslayer> ill look at that class in college tomorrow then
[19:36] <shadeslayer> ah
[19:36] <apachelogger> not encouragable though
[19:37] <shadeslayer> whai?
[19:37] <apachelogger> better use wha Quassel has with statusnotifier integration
[19:37] <apachelogger> poke Sput about that
[19:37] <shadeslayer> Sput: ^^
[19:37] <Sput> what's there to poke? the code is there :)
[19:37] <Sput> you can peruse it!
[19:38] <Sput> is that a pure Qt app anyway?
[19:38] <shadeslayer> no idea where to start :P
[19:38] <shadeslayer> i haz check out
[19:38] <Sput> because if it's KDE, use KDE's stuff
[19:38] <shadeslayer> Sput: pure Qt till now
[19:38] <Sput> also Quassel doesn't reimplement all of it, just the things we need, but I guess the missing stuff could easily be added by mostly copypasting from KStatusNotifier
[19:39] <Sput> well, sex
[19:39] <Sput> argh
[19:39] <Sput> well, sec
[19:39] <Sput> http://gitorious.org/quassel/quassel/trees/master/src/qtui
[19:40] <apachelogger> :O
[19:40] <apachelogger> now that is a typo
[19:40] <apachelogger> ^^
[19:40] <Sput> systemtray.* contains the base class, statusnotifier* contains the statusnotifier stuff, and legacy* contains the fallback in case there's no statusnotifier
[19:40] <Sput> it also compiles fine if Qt doesn't have QSystemTrayIcon support (often the case in the mobile versions)
[19:40] <Sput> and it compiles fine if there's no dbus support, in which case it'll fall back to Qt
[19:41] <apachelogger> !find identica.png
[19:41] <shadeslayer> 0_o
[19:41]  * apachelogger is wondering why amarok contains that
[19:41] <shadeslayer> identica.png in amarok? 
[19:42] <apachelogger> ah
[19:42] <apachelogger> I know
[19:42] <apachelogger> for the social about dialog thing
[19:42]  * apachelogger is wondering why that still did not land in KDElibs
[19:42]  * apachelogger finds it a very good idea
[19:42] <apachelogger> the emblem sux though
[19:42]  * Sput hopes agateau will get paid for actually implementing that stuff in QSystemTrayIcon at some point
[19:42]  * apachelogger uses the gwibber version
[19:43] <shadeslayer> ahh
[19:43] <shtylman_> what happened to qt4-dev-tools?
[19:43] <shadeslayer> shtylman_: oh btw i hear you live in NYC?
[19:44] <shtylman_> with qt 4.7 from the ppa repo it won't install
[19:44] <shtylman_> shadeslayer: that is correct
[19:44] <shadeslayer> shtylman_: hmm.. i might have a connecting flight from there .. might be there for about 8 hours
[19:44] <shadeslayer> transit times--
[19:45] <shtylman_> 8 hours.. damn
[19:45] <shadeslayer> hehe... might as well go around the city and have a look
[19:46] <shtylman_> yea.. assuming you figure time to/from the airport
[19:46] <shadeslayer> yeah...
[19:47] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: did you apply for visa?
[19:47] <apachelogger> no, oh I need that too
[19:47] <apachelogger> well
[19:47] <apachelogger> technically I do not need a visa
[19:47] <shadeslayer> your exempted from that ?
[19:47] <apachelogger> there is some other special thing for special countries
[19:48] <apachelogger> and I happen to be in such a special country
[19:48] <shadeslayer> i thought only UK got that exception 
[19:48] <shadeslayer> :D
[19:50] <shadeslayer> cya people
[19:50] <ejat> shadeslayer: c ya
[19:51] <apachelogger> ah
[19:51] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: visa waiver program it is called
[19:51] <shadeslayer> yeah..
[19:51] <shadeslayer> ESTA or something
[19:51] <apachelogger> aye
[19:52] <apachelogger> which is supreme because IIRC a visa would be 109 euros ^^
[19:52] <apachelogger> and then you still need to pay the entrance fee of 14 USD :P
[20:24] <debfx> apachelogger, Riddell, ScottK, JontheEchidna: I'm applying for MOTU, it would be lovely if you could leave a comment on my application: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FelixGeyer/MOTUApplication
[20:24] <apachelogger> oh noes
[20:24] <apachelogger> not the commenting again
[20:25] <apachelogger> -.-
[20:25] <debfx> :)
[20:25]  * apachelogger is wondering if a "make him a motu already" would suffice
[20:25] <apachelogger> are you applying for MOTO too? :P
[20:25]  * apachelogger pokes neversfelde
[20:26] <lex79> lol
[20:27] <shtylman_> I am using the backports ppa
[20:27] <shtylman_> and something happened to qt4-dev-tools
[20:27] <shtylman_> is this known?
[20:28] <lex79> I uploaded the fix, it's building
[20:29] <shtylman_> lex79: gracias
[20:29] <lex79> no problem :)
[20:49] <neversfelde> apachelogger: ?
[20:49] <neversfelde> ah MOTO
[20:49] <apachelogger> :P
[20:50] <neversfelde> exclusive cycle
[20:50] <neversfelde> I think I am the only one
[20:52] <apachelogger> I think so too :P
[20:55] <gmaculo> how do i disable the default sorting of hidden files and case insensitivity in ls? -- also noticed command line regexp are also case insensitive.. how do i turn that crap off?
[20:56] <neversfelde> apachelogger: great stuff on your blog
[20:59] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: why did you never blog about the kubuntu aubertruck? ;)
[21:05] <ulysses> Riddell: did you import the kde translations?
[21:05] <Riddell> ulysses: no, was going to do that now, something you wanted importing?
[21:05] <ulysses> No, I think all important thing is ready for Maverick
[21:08] <Riddell> Konqueror and Chromium users can now appreciate the Ubuntu font on kubuntu.org's front page
[21:09] <ulysses> I made a last commit before importing, only little changes
[21:09] <Riddell> ulysses: commit to what?
[21:10] <ulysses> to l10n-kde4
[21:10] <ulysses> only little, unimportant changes
[21:26] <claydoh> yay  my laptop now has a broken screen :( darn cat :(
[21:35] <lex79> Riddell: dolphin freeze is fixed, remain this weird bug 649509
[21:37] <lex79> and in live cd mode if I want play a mp3 there is no notification about restricted codec availability
[21:38] <lex79> or if I want see a video on youtube
[21:43] <claydoh> omg this ancient crt is almost as bad as a cracked lcd :( it fluttters and flashes oh my
[21:54] <lex79> apachelogger: should kubuntu-notiication-helper work on live cd mode? or is it supposed to work only if you install kubuntu? 
[22:10] <pgquiles> how come kdebase-workspace and kdebase-workspace-bin for KDE 4.5.1 are not available from kubuntu-ppa? Makes impossible to upgrade to KDE 4.5.1 on Lucid
[22:12] <lex79> they are in kubuntu backport:
[22:12] <lex79> kdebase-workspace-bin_4.5.1-0ubuntu4~lucid1~ppa2
[22:13] <lex79> kdebase-workspace_4.5.1-0ubuntu4~lucid1~ppa2_all.deb
[22:14] <lex79> bbl
[22:20] <shtylman_> lex79: did that dev tools package ever build?
[22:27] <JontheEchidna> anybody have kdebase-workspace changes they wanted to get in? I'm going to do an upload this evening
[22:31] <pgquiles> lex79: you are right but kdebase-workspace-libs4+5 is still at 4.4.5, so apt won't update kdebase*
[22:45] <CIA-116> [ubuntu] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20100928214519-o6unmny9bzr1c1et * debian/ (changelog kdm.upstart) debian/kdm.upstart: Do not already fire on a framebuffer device. When a real DRM driver gets loaded later on, X will be started too early to catch it. (LP: #615549)
[23:35] <lex79> pgquiles: you can remove kdebase-workspace-libs4+5 is no longer needed
[23:37] <lex79> shtylman_: qtwebkit is built, you should try to upgrade
[23:39] <shtylman_> kk
[23:40] <lex79> JontheEchidna: should kubuntu-notiication-helper work on live cd mode? or is it supposed to work only if you install kubuntu? 
[23:40] <JontheEchidna> most likely the live cd doesn't have universe/multiverse enabled
[23:40] <lex79> oh
[23:43] <Riddell> kubuntu-notification-helper is disabled on the live cd
[23:44] <lex79> the reason is?
[23:49] <Riddell> lex79: well it's a live session, it's not generally useful to be told to install or reboot stuff
[23:49] <Riddell> so working on the principle of don't put things in people's way when they don't need them, it gets disabled
[23:52] <lex79> uhm ok, but for me is usefull, if it's the first time that I see kubuntu maybe I want see if it can play an avi file or an mp3 file or if I can go on youtube with kubuntu
[23:52] <Riddell> yes, I did have a similar complaint earlier this week so maybe it should be revisited
[23:52] <lex79> I think so
[23:54] <lex79> I'm wondering what happen with General font :(
[23:54] <lex79> JontheEchidna: any clue on bug 649509 ?
[23:55] <lex79> just weird, it seems I'm the only one that discovered this bug
[23:55] <JontheEchidna> nope, I've not touched the font portion of k-d-s
[23:55] <JontheEchidna> Riddell: is there a way to use a custom config file for the livecd only?
[23:57] <Riddell> JontheEchidna: you can do it in casper
[23:57] <Riddell> e.g. we still do this for some reason..
[23:57] <Riddell> 32disable_hibernation:    echo "disableHibernate=1" >> /root/usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde-profile/default/share/config/guidance-power-managerrc
[23:58] <JontheEchidna> in that case we could have a custom notificationhelperrc disabling reboot notifications
[23:58] <Riddell> and upgrade notifications for kpackagekit
[23:58] <JontheEchidna> [Event]
[23:58] <JontheEchidna> hideInstallNotifier=false
[23:59] <JontheEchidna> s/false/true
[23:59] <JontheEchidna> would do the trick
[23:59] <JontheEchidna> er
[23:59] <JontheEchidna> hideRestartNotifier=true
[23:59] <JontheEchidna> then we could hide restart notifications but keep flash prompts