[00:00] <James147> slackwarebob: only if the attacker has access to the comp while the drives are unlocked :S (or recently locked)
[00:00] <James147> and assuming they are not stupid enough to power down the computer :)
[00:00] <James147> (or have access to a quantum computer :D  )
[00:00] <James147> slackwarebob: beside, most people wont really care that much about your data to be bothered to properly decrypt a disk, they are more likly to just sell i
[00:00] <James147> t
[00:05] <dasKreech> fdisk /dev/disk-by-state/encrypted/*
[00:15]  * crack05 is away (Gone)
[00:26] <slackwarebob> James147: it's true that most people won't care.
[01:53] <cjae> easy way to make 50 pictures re-encoded to be sent as email  (20 MB limit)
[01:57] <ScottyK> What is a good time after the release of a new version to upgrade? Day of? day after? week after?
[01:58] <cjae> ScottyK: depends on the way you update (gui or cli) because cli cant break systems if the update is bad
[01:59] <cjae> if the system works for what you need you should just update the distro you have and wait at least two weeks
[01:59] <ScottyK> cjae - I hear you. after a bad upgrade to KDE, I'm sold on just doing it all from the command line.
[02:00] <cjae> well gui sometimes blocks some updates that might be "not so good"
[02:00] <cjae> sometimes*
[02:00] <cjae> opps
[02:00] <cjae> multitasking lol
[02:03] <cjae> the package managers have been going through major overhauls since 8.10 so really you should wait
[02:03] <cjae> kpackagekit in 10.10 seems to be very good so far
[02:04] <cjae> aside from the default search by name thing that one must switch all the time when searching for packages you are not sure about the name :P
[02:05] <ScottyK> I've been doing it all from the command line (updating), with the occasional foray into Synaptic, just to see what is out there
[02:06] <cjae> aptitude safe-upgrade seems to be the best way to keep system functioning
[02:07] <cjae> but aptitude is not installed by default in 10.10
[02:12] <ScottyK> so what's the difference between aptitude and apt-get? I've been using apt-get update and apt-get upgrade
[02:21] <yofel> cjae: I use http://yofel.dyndns.org/trac/browser/bash/conv.sh to modify photos that are too large here. (convert is part of imagemagick)
[02:21] <cjae> yofel: thanks
[02:28] <yofel> ScottyK: not much these days, but aptitude has a different dependency resolver, and while apt-get upgrade will only upgrade packages IIRC, safe-upgrade will refuse to remove packages but will happily install new packages to resolve dependency conflicts
[02:57] <sileni> hey guys
[02:58] <sileni> i originally had gnome installed for ubuntu, and wanted to try out kde therefore i did 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop' and everything went find. Now i have logged into the kdm but whenever notifications come up on the side the text is black on black so i can't read. is there anyway to change that ?
[04:14] <zus> to update grub is "sudoo update grub"?
[04:15] <sileni> hey guys
[04:16] <sileni> i want to be able to open konsole when i press the windows key on my keyboard. How would i go about setting this up ?
[06:49] <Ishara> hmm, these are not the droids i was looking for
[06:57] <dasKreech> Beep Bllo beep
[07:27] <mistrynitesh> how to stop update-notifier-kde from starting automatically at system startup in kubuntu?
[08:49] <guestguyjp> anyone from olongapo city?????????
[08:52] <pushkarajthorat> Hello everybody
[08:53] <pushkarajthorat> exit
[09:50] <j3j5> does anybody know if I can lock the plasmoids just in one Desktop Activity but not in the rest?
[09:50] <j3j5> I'm in kde 4.4.2 running under kubuntu 10.04
[09:50] <Qwert_> I'm looking for good netbook in terms of performance. Which channel I can go for?
[10:01] <Fox> hi
[10:36] <j3j5> hi
[11:36] <pc_> hi everybody
[11:39] <rhkfin> Hi there! I have a 093a:2626 Pixart webcam. two of my 10.04 recognize and work with it OK (they load pac7311) but the third one doesn't. Any idea how to check what's wrong or to install the missing bits? Kubuntu 10.04, dmesg outputs here: http://pastebin.com/xJAq9F6j
[12:00] <blubbar> hi, how can I send notifications?
[12:04] <ikonia> blubbar: notifications to where/what
[12:05] <blubbar> ikonia: from a small script and it should send a message to the kde notification area
[12:06] <ikonia> oh, no idea
[12:06] <blubbar> ok
[12:06] <blubbar> in Gnome I think there is something like notify-send but I can't find anything similar in kde
[12:11] <frogonwheels> blubbar: something with qdbus org.kde.Knotify event    perhaps?
[12:12] <Walzmyn> whoa, why do I have 140 updates of KDE packages?
[12:12] <blubbar> frogonwheels: checking thanks
[12:15] <Riddell> ** Kubuntu 10.10 RC Candidates need testing, help out in #kubuntu-devel http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/
[13:18] <BluesKaj> HIyas all
[13:32] <justin_> i updated kubuntu from 9.04 to 10.04 and been seeming to have some problems that apparently work fine out of the box.  is there a way to use the konsole to erase all the apps i've put on and put on all the ones that come with only a fresh box install?
[13:33] <James147> justin_: not easily... but possible
[13:34] <justin_> james147: i am kinda new to this stuff, but know the basics.  what would be the most difficult part?
[13:34] <James147> justin_: forgetting an important package...
[13:35] <justin_> james147: yes i see what you mean.  i was hoping i could find repos and a command online to start from scratch
[13:36] <James147> justin_: not so much dificult, more dangrous... you would baically ahve to remvoe all packages, then reinstall the ones you wanted (remembering the required ones)... but you dont want to actually remove anything important :)   ... (best way is to use aptitude and schedual the changes)
[13:37] <James147> justin_: give me a sec, I found a guide once on howto do ti
[13:38] <James147> justin_: ... an easier way would be to just do a fresh install though (if you DO NOT format /home will remain intact, but ALWAYS do a backup before a fresh install)
[13:40] <justin_> james147: well i seem to be out of blank cd's to make a live image, so i had to use my 9.04 and upgrade.  howevery my external hdd and some other minor things i found work on out of the box, and not by upgrading
[13:41] <James147> justin_: do you have a spare 1gig or more usb stick? if so you can create a live usb
[13:41] <James147> !liveusb
[13:41] <justin_> james147: no i do not, i used to but they came up missing
[13:42] <James147> :S ... I would highly recomend creating a livecd then if you dont already have one, they are a very useful thing to have lieing around if your system decided to die
[13:44] <RelookNA> hello , why does Kubuntu skip all video & audio streams?   , Kubuntu sys. has twice the memory than my winblows
[13:44] <James147> RelookNA: do you have "kubuntu-restricted-extras" installed? if it dosent ahve the codecs it tends to skip the file
[13:45] <RelookNA> tks james, I will look into that
[13:46] <James147> justin_: cannot find that guide... although I am not sure how much removing package would help anyway :) you could try reinstalling kubuntu-desktop  ... that has all the dependencies for kubuntu so should at least install everything the default kubuntu has
[13:47] <James147> justin_: otherwise I suggest you tell us exactly whats not working and we can help you fix it :)
[13:48] <justin_> james147: well my external hdd which is an old laptop hdd with an ide/sata to usb 2.0 adapter is not recognized at all.  i was hoping if i could get that to be recognized, then i can do a fresh install from that
[13:48] <justin_> i have found others with the same problem
[13:49] <James147> justin_: can you pastebin the output of "sudo fdisk -l"
[13:50] <justin_> justin@justin:~$ sudo fdisk -l
[13:50] <justin_> Disk /dev/sda: 250.1 GB, 250059350016 bytes
[13:50] <justin_> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 30401 cylinders
[13:50] <justin_> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[13:50] <justin_> Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
[13:50] <FloodBotK1> justin_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:50] <justin_> I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
[13:51] <justin_> didnt mean to, never knew about that
[13:52] <James147> justin_: its ok :) can you put it in a pastebin?
[13:52] <justin_> how do i go about that
[13:52] <James147> !pastebin
[13:53] <Qwert> How can I create a shortcut for an application?
[13:53] <James147> Qwert: right click the kmenu > edit menu  (or run kmenuedit)
[13:56] <Wardgom> I'm having some major profductivity problems with version 10 and could really use some guidance.  Am I at the right place?
[13:57] <James147> Wardgom: kubuntu 10.04? then yes :)
[14:00] <James147> !pm | Wardgom
[14:01] <Qwert> James147: What are the other ways of creating shortcut?
[14:02] <James147> Qwert: create a *.desktop file with th appropate contents... tell us what you are trying to accomplish overall and we can tell you the best way to do that
[14:02] <Wardgom> Sorry, about PM.
[14:03] <James147> Wardgom: its fine :)
[14:04] <Wardgom> ABout Kubuntu 10; finding it has a host of small and big problems. 9 worked very well for me.  Trying to see if it's just me or is the release just buggier than normal
[14:04] <Qwert> James147: Well I usually run VirtualBox's particular disrto usind CLI, as a shortcut to access the distro immediately. Same command works well for the method you initially suggested. What other methods exits?
[14:04] <James147> Wardgom: state what problems you are having (preferblly with as much detal as you can give)
[14:07] <Qwert> James147: Eh?
[14:08] <James147> Qwert: *.desktop files are mostly the only application "shortcut"... (kmenuedit creates these for you)... however you can also simlink the executable to a new location if you want (although I dont think thats what you want to do)  or write a bash script to execute the program (often this can be done inside a *.desktop file... or you would use a *.desktop file to point to a script)
[14:08] <Wardgom> One prob at a time?: Dolphin crashes when openning many and various filetypes.  They are often opened, but all instances go down.  Theyre no "debug" packages listed and the reporting tool gives no joy.  But the crash is reproduceable.\
[14:09] <Qwert> James147: How to create simlink?
[14:09] <James147> Wardgom: well, dolphin has no dpg package :) but the librarys it depends on do... I have a feeling that might be a config problem... I highly usggest you try a new user and see if it happens with them
[14:10] <James147> Qwert: "ln -s file linkname"  (file and linkname can be paths) or in dolphin right click (or drag and drop) > create shortcut to ..)
[14:11] <James147> Wardgom: if it works as it should in a new user then try renaming ~/.kde/share/config/dolphinrc on your orignal user
[14:11] <James147> that will reset dolphin to its default settings
[14:11] <Wardgom> Create a new user?  Force a fresh set of config files?  Worth a try.
[14:12] <James147> Wardgom: thats the idea
[14:12] <Qwert> What all things the desktop file should contain?
[14:13] <James147> Wardgom: there are a supprising number of bugs related to upgrading from older version :) these are harder to fix as most people just delete the configs to fix the problem (usually making them less of an issue)
[14:13] <James147> Qwert: Look at other desktop files, I am not sure on exactly what the need... a name and an exec line might be enough (either way looking at other ones is helpful)
[14:14] <Qwert> Thanks James147
[14:15] <Wardgom> Is upgrading Kubuntu 9 to Kubuntu 10 different from installing Kubuntu 10 from disc and pointing to my Home partition?  (My Home directory has it's own Partition)
[14:15] <Qwert> James147:  I want windows opened by an application to not show up in the top of the stacking order
[14:15] <James147> Wardgom: if the upgrade worked then not espically
[14:15] <Qwert> (windows opened from panel I don't care so much either way)
[14:16] <Qwert> This is second issue
[14:16] <James147> Qwert: hmm.. not entirly sure how to fix that... but I would think the focuse stealing prevention might be helpful
[14:17] <Qwert> James147: How?
[14:19] <James147> Qwert: (on kde 4.5) alt+F3 (on any window) > Configure Window Behavious > focus...
[14:19] <James147> Qwert: or somewhere in system settings :)
[14:19] <Wardgom> Are intermittent system-hangs a possible consequence of a not-perfect upgrade from 9 to 10?
[14:19] <James147> Wardgom: possible...
[14:20] <James147> Wardgom: its hard to say... testing on a livecd is the best way to tell
[14:20] <Qwert> James147: Where in system settings?
[14:21] <James147> on kde 4.5 (they move allot of things around, cant remember where everything is on 4.4 anymore :S ) System settings > Window Behaviour > Window Behavious > Focus
[14:23] <Qwert> compiz, ccsm,  there are options
[14:24] <Qwert> the problem is that they don't work with focus-follows mouse, basically
[14:24] <James147> compiz? thats not part of kde :S
[14:25] <James147> Qwert: what desktop envrioment are you using?
[14:25] <Qwert> Basically, the problem is that they don't work with focus-follows mouse.
[14:25] <Qwert> KDE
[14:27] <James147> Qwert: you should be changing the "Focus stealing prevention level" its options are none, low > extream... dont know where the compiz, ccsm options are :S
[14:28] <cwillu_at_work> who disturbs my slumber?
[14:48] <ayush> I want to switch from ubuntu to kubuntu. I just want to know that when a newer stable version is released, will I be able to upgrade? Or would I have to do a fresh install and lose all my settings/applications?
[14:49] <bazhang> ayush, you can upgrade
[14:49] <Qwert> ayush: Which OS are you on now?
[14:49] <James147> ayush: if you dont want to do a fresh install then install "kubuntu-desktop" and you will have both kde and gnome installed
[14:49] <bazhang> install kubuntu-desktop
[14:49] <James147> ayush: you can then just pugrade
[14:49] <Qwert> Ubuntu -> Kubuntu
[14:49] <Qwert> sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop
[14:49] <Qwert> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[14:49] <Qwert> sudo apt-get remove liborbit2(This will remove gnome mode option ie gnome desktop)
[14:49] <Qwert> Now you have only KDE!
[14:49] <FloodBotK1> Qwert: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:49] <ayush> Qwert: right now I'm on linux mint 9 LXDE
[14:50] <bazhang> Qwert, that wont do it
[14:50] <James147> !purekde
[14:50] <bazhang> ayush, thats mint and debian
[14:50] <ayush> okay I think you all misunderstood me.
[14:51] <bazhang> ayush, mint is not supported in ubuntu channels
[14:52] <ayush> I have ubuntu 10.04 installed on a laptop. I'm gona install kubuntu 10.04 on it now. what I want to know is when kubuntu 10.10 is released, will I be able to upgrade via the internet? Or would I need to download the 10.10 iso and then install it, thus losing all my settings and applications?
[14:52] <bazhang> ayush, sure
[14:53] <Qwert> Upgrade.
[14:53] <bazhang> you can upgrade it
[14:53] <ayush> alright, thanks Qwert and bazhang
[14:53] <James147> ayush: yes you will be able to upgrade, however if you are going to do a fresh install of kubuntu now i would recomend waiting a couple weeks and jsut doing a freshin stall of kubuntu 10.10
[14:53] <bazhang> ayush, welcome
[14:53] <Qwert> Thanks to bazhang and James147. btw
[14:54] <bazhang> ayush, in future, you might consider a separate home partition as well
[14:54] <Qwert> Yeah..
[14:55] <James147> ayush: also, doing a fresh install dont ahve to distroy your settings (the ones in /home at least) as if you do not formate the drive the installer wont touch /home
[14:55] <ayush> bazhang: if I have a separate home partition, I won't have to re-install my applications?
[14:55] <James147> ayush: you applications you will
[14:55] <James147> (unless they are ones you ahve manually installed in /home
[14:56] <Qwert> James147: I guess it affects.. It clashes
[14:56] <James147> Qwert: ??
[14:57] <ayush> James147: alright thanks. if I can ask an linux newbie questions, what is the "Program files" equivalent in linux? lets say I install firefox, where will it get installed?
[14:57] <James147> ayush: most likly /use/bin   but they acn also be in /bin
[14:57] <James147> ayush: but you should NOT just back up that location
[14:57] <bazhang> usr you mean
[14:58] <James147> ayush: nots better to grab a list of packages from dpkg and reinstall the
[14:58] <James147> bazhang: yes :) sorry
[14:58] <James147> /usr/bin ^^
[14:58] <bazhang> :)
[14:59]  * James147 likes how the new kpackagekit (0.6) lets you import and export a packagekit :D
[14:59] <James147> package list ^^
[14:59] <ayush> so everytime I need install a new linux distro, I just format the '/home' partition and leave '/' as it is?
[14:59] <James147> ayush: NO the other way around
[14:59] <bazhang> ayush, the reverse
[14:59] <ayush> oh ok thanks :)
[14:59] <Qwert> Opposite.. and not what you said. Thats not how it works
[15:00] <James147> ayush: if you dont format the drive kubuntu will delete and recreate the system folders
[15:00] <James147> (leaveing /home as it is)
[15:00] <ayush> got it :)
[15:00] <James147> ayush: what ever you do backup your data
[15:01] <Qwert> James147: I was talking about the .files of the old system. Will overwriting it on .files created by new installation help?
[15:01] <James147> there is always a change something will go wrong :)
[15:01] <ayush> also, does anyone know if that desktop cube effect (compiz) works in KDE?
[15:01] <James147> Qwert: what .files?
[15:01] <bazhang> ayush, sure, but kde4 has its own eye candy
[15:02] <James147> ayush: compiz works in kde... sorta, but you really should jsut use kwin... it has its own cube effect
[15:02] <Qwert> James147: Hidden files. Dolphin manager... (Alt+.)
[15:02] <James147> Qwert: I know that, but what hidden files? the ones in ~  ?
[15:02] <Qwert> James147: Yes, including that
[15:03] <BluesKaj> James147, are you saying there's no need to format / in order to do a clean install  and still preserve /home ?
[15:03] <James147> Qwert: as far as I know the installation dosent touch /home at all...
[15:03] <ayush> does kubuntu come with kwin or would I need to install it?
[15:03] <James147> BluesKaj: last I tested that works
[15:04] <James147> BluesKaj: at elast kubuntu warned me and told me it was going to delete the system folders :) and it left /home as it was
[15:04] <James147> ayush: kwin is the default window manager so yes it comes with it :)
[15:04] <ricardo> anyone using 12 inches Tablet pc with kubuntu?
[15:04] <BluesKaj> James147,  ok good , maybe I''ll do that with 10.10 because the last  OS I formatted / , but /home was untouched
[15:06] <ayush> okay last question. can the KDE konsole be made transparent like the gnome terminal?
[15:06] <James147> BluesKaj: dont think it matters if they are on seperate drives or not, if the installer finds files in the system folders I think it just deletes them... so as long as you dont formate the drive with /home on it should be fine (but ALWAYS backup incase)
[15:06] <James147> ayush: yes
[15:07] <ayush> James147: can you tell me how please. because I tried once and didn't find a transparency option
[15:07]  * James147 still thinks its a good idea to ahve a seperate /home ... incase you want to formate /)
[15:08] <Martin__1> Hi, I think I managed to mix up one of my packages - its configuration file is empty and there is no script for it in /etc/init.d/. I don't want the package anymore. Everything I do something with aptitude I get this error. How do I solve it? http://pastebin.com/JP47PZgj
[15:08] <Qwert> James147: I was talking about the files like .kde, .irssi, .marble, .mozilla ..
[15:09] <James147> ayush: settings > configure profile > edit profile > Appearence > Edit: "Background transparency"    desktop effects might need to be enabled (including the trtansparency effect)
[15:09] <James147> Qwert: they wont be touched by a new install
[15:09] <Qwert> James147: Are you sure?
[15:09] <James147> Qwert: they arent created untill you log in
[15:09] <BluesKaj> James147, I was concerned the first time I tried installing jaunty with /home on a separate partition that ubiquity would install a seperate /home  on the partition I had reserved for / . Guess i worry too much :)
[15:09] <Qwert> James147: But..
[15:10] <James147> Qwert: kde dosent really care if its the first run after an install or not, it look for .kde and creates it if its not there
[15:11] <Qwert> James147: Yeah.. that was not the case with VirtualBox files.. all vdi files were not detected. It happened with adobe flash player as well that I had to install it again
[15:12] <James147> BluesKaj: yeah I worried about it abit to, but I decided to test it once (think on a vm) with only one partition and it left /home untouched after a fresh install (without fformating)
[15:12] <James147> Qwert: flash is installed to a system location and will be deleted on a fresh install... so you need to install it again
[15:12] <BluesKaj> James147, yes, I wish the install instructions one finds on the net would make that clear .
[15:12] <James147> Qwert: VirtualBox I have uninstall and reinstalled many atimes and it has always foudn the previous settings
[15:13] <Qwert> James147: Umm... where are all the vdi files stored usually?
[15:13] <James147> BluesKaj: dont think many people know what the installer does :) they are just doing what everyone thinks is the safestway
[15:13] <spad> ciao a tutti
[15:13] <spad> !list
[15:13] <James147> Qwert: somewhere in ~ I think one sec
[15:14] <BluesKaj> one thing about VB I don't like is the unadjustable screen size
[15:14]  * James147 can adjust VB scren size
[15:14] <Qwert> BluesKaj: For that you need GuestAddtion installed
[15:14] <Qwert> Its possible.
[15:14] <Scherenhaenden> hi everybody... i have a machine where there are too many installed kernels... could i delete the all kernels?
[15:15] <Qwert> But leave one... the latest ob
[15:15] <BluesKaj> someone told me to install windows on VB to enable netflix streaming , but why bother on a dinky screensize
[15:15] <James147> Scherenhaenden: uninstall them (make sure you dont uninstall ALL of them)   searching for 2.6.32 in a packagemanager tends to find them all
[15:16] <BluesKaj> Qwert, guest addition?
[15:16] <Qwert> BluesKaj: One sec
[15:16] <James147> BluesKaj: install teh guest addition, I have been able to adjust the screen size
[15:16] <Qwert> BluesKaj: Which version you got?
[15:16] <BluesKaj> w7
[15:16] <James147> BluesKaj: check the menus of VB it should be one of the options there to dl it
[15:16] <Qwert> BluesKaj: From package or website?
[15:16] <Scherenhaenden> James147: no well... i just wanna unistalled some of them... in clicked on more than 30 of them... cuz there are hearders n imges that are installed since kubuntu 6.10 n now i have kubuntu 10.10... there are really tooooooo many file... n too much place
[15:17] <James147> Qwert: my vdi files are at ~/.VirtualBox/HardDisks/
[15:18] <BluesKaj> Qwert,  dunno what you're referring to
[15:18] <Qwert> BlueKaj: From where was vbox downloaded? Website or pakage manager?
[15:19] <James147> Scherenhaenden: search for linux-image   and linux-head   and you should be able to find and uninstall them... there is no easier way as far as i know
[15:20] <Qwert> James147: In that case, if I backup those files and use it on fresh install. I will not have to install guest os again. Right?
[15:20] <BluesKaj> Qwert, I just installed VB by aptitude , from the repos , but I removed it after I realized all the limitations
[15:20] <James147> Qwert: thats the theroy
[15:21] <Scherenhaenden> James147: yeah... i did it... i knew wich of them... but i was not sure if id need them... but on them are more than 20 gigas... :S... is too much place
[15:21] <Scherenhaenden> James147: n i dont use a lot of them since years from years
[15:21] <Qwert> BlueKaj: Oh.. I asked because if it was from website, you had to download one file from it. Otherwise, now you should be able to see "Install Guest Additions"
[15:22] <James147> Scherenhaenden: you only really need one working kernal, best to keep a spare one around though, so I would just keep the ones you use
[15:23] <Scherenhaenden> James147: u right... thanks.... ill do it ;)
[15:23] <James147> Scherenhaenden: just make sure you dont delete the kernal your using :)
[15:24] <Scherenhaenden> James147: that could i do XD!
[15:31] <|Alexia_Death|> Hi. Im having a very strange problem.
[15:32] <|Alexia_Death|> Everything is fine in kdm and for a minute or two after kde start, but then it seems that focus no longer follows mouse clicks.
[15:33] <|Alexia_Death|> I can chage focus with alt tab for windows but thats it. Cant navigate withing windows with clicks either.
[15:34] <|Alexia_Death|> this started happening after coming upp from sleep.
[15:35] <BluesKaj> |Alexia_Death|, have you rebooted ?
[15:36] <|Alexia_Death|> BluesKaj: yes
[15:36] <|Alexia_Death|> And restarted kdm repeatedly.
[15:37] <|Alexia_Death|> BluesKaj: Im having the same symtoms with both my synaptics touchpad and USB mouse. I cant see how this coud be a hardware issue.
[15:38] <|Alexia_Death|> I took a look with xinput test even. Click events do happen.
[15:38] <James147> |Alexia_Death|: Test a new user, should tell you if its a config problem
[15:38] <|Alexia_Death|> Im suspecting a messed up state was saved somewhere before sleep, but I do not know where KDE stores such setings.
[15:39] <James147> |Alexia_Death|: also most kde settings are in ~/.kde so there wuld be a good start :)
[15:40] <|Alexia_Death|> James147: I do not wanna murder my whole setup. Just created a new user. Trying.
[15:40] <|Alexia_Death|> Anybody know a keyboard shortcut for new user session?
[15:40] <James147> |Alexia_Death|: not suggesting you delete .kde, but look inside it for the session stuff
[15:41] <James147> |Alexia_Death|: lock teh screen
[15:41] <James147> (ctrl+alt+l)
[15:42] <Scherenhaenden> James147: hey.... i have two diwsks... both disks have swap... but this kubuntu take just one of them... how could i take these another swap on my kubuntu?
[15:43] <James147> Scherenhaenden: each swap file/partiton needs an entry in /etc/fstab to be used (at elast without manually turning it on)
[15:43] <Scherenhaenden> James147: ill look for that
[15:43] <|Alexia_Death|> James147: On lock screen clicks work:P
[15:44] <James147> :S
[15:45] <|Alexia_Death|> James147: under brand new test user, its yet to show the same problem aswell
[15:46] <James147> |Alexia_Death|: weird :D
[15:46] <James147> :S
[15:46] <|Alexia_Death|> So at this point its pretty safe bet that is a messed up config file somewhere...
[15:47] <|Alexia_Death|> Whats the component in kde thats responsible for focus tracking?
[15:47] <James147> |Alexia_Death|: I would try reinstalling kubuntu-desktop... not sure if it will do anything
[15:47] <|Alexia_Death|> kwin?
[15:47] <James147> I would say kwin
[15:48] <|Alexia_Death|> Okay. Lets start by murdering its setings.
[15:48] <James147> |Alexia_Death|: try installing kubuntu-desktop anyway, it will pull any missing pcakages you might need
[15:48] <James147> |Alexia_Death|: Then I would suggest "sudo dpkg-reconfigure kwin"
[15:49] <|Alexia_Death|> I have no missing pacages from kubuntu desktop it appears.
[15:50] <James147> was worth a shot :)
[15:50] <|Alexia_Death|> hmm... rename then. Forensic reasons. Killing X first so it wont save the messed up state again
[15:57] <BluesKaj> bummer , I finally located this tutorial ...it could help http://ubuntulinux.co.in/blog/ubuntu/ubuntu-9-10/xorg-conf-file-create-on-ubuntu-9-10/
[15:58] <James147> BluesKaj: :) think i have seen taht one before
[16:00] <BluesKaj> James147, my linux bookmarks list needs editing , bigtime :)
[16:01]  * James147 needs to start bookmarking things...
[16:01] <James147> BluesKaj: if you have any useful ones you mind pming me them?
[16:02] <Wardgom> Hello, I have had numerous problems since upgrading from 9 to 10.  Tried suggestion of creating new user.  This seems to have fixed most of my problems including one with X/nVidia. So thanks; particularly james147.
[16:03] <James147> Wardgom: that means its a problem with the config files in your home directory, you should beabel to find and delete the right ones should fix the problems for that user :)
[16:05] <Wardgom> James147, is there a way to force re-do of most standard configs?
[16:07] <James147> Wardgom: configs are stored in hidden files in your home, .kde stops most of kde settngs, deleteing that will reset kde to its defaults, .local is another big one and .config
[16:08] <James147> Wardgom: I would look at the hidden files and delete te ones you dont care about (however, i would keep .bashrc, thats an importnat one
[16:08] <Alexia_Death> James147: Sofar so good. I murdered a bunch of kwin files, including 2 session files.
[16:08] <James147> ahh, my systems beeping :S
[16:09] <Wardgom> James147, understood, delete with care.  Thanks :)
[16:09] <Wardgom> James147, scratch that, I'll RENAME with care.
[16:09] <BluesKaj> James147, that's my unedited list
[16:10] <James147> BluesKaj: thank you
[16:10] <James147> Wardgom: yeah :) rename (or move... if your doing that many files i would move them to something link ~/backup
[16:10] <James147> Wardgom: that way you can move them back without having to remeber what they where called
[16:11] <Wardgom> James147: Godd idea!
[16:11] <Wardgom> James147: Good idea!
[16:11] <BluesKaj> James147, you may need to edit , some sites are out of date
[16:12] <James147> BluesKaj: :)
[16:15] <Alexia_Death> James147: I have bacups of the files in question.... Worth reporting a bug or not?
[16:15] <ayush> I just installed kubuntu 10.04 64-bit. How can I get flash to work for konqueror (i do not want to use firefox)?
[16:16] <James147> Alexia_Death: not sure... kde has gotten better at updating its config files and the older kde version aret inuse as much any more (or at least I hope they arnt )
[16:17] <eMyller> Alexia_Death: thanks for the help @ grub reinstall some mins ago :)
[16:17] <James147> ayush: "sudo aptitude install flashplugin-installer"  should make it work... restart the browsers and if it still doesnt look in the plugin settings in konw
[16:17] <James147> konq
[16:17] <Alexia_Death> James147: I have whatever is default in  lucid... It's one major version behund I think:)
[16:17] <Alexia_Death> eMyller: got it solved? Welcome:)
[16:18] <eMyller> yeah. :)
[16:18] <James147> Alexia_Death: 4.4.2 is default in lucid, upgrading to 4.5 dosnt have as many config problems
[16:18] <eMyller> Alexia_Death: i dd'ed my system partition to a bkp one; did it mess with anything?
[16:19] <Alexia_Death> bkp means backup?
[16:19] <James147> (I recomend you upgrade... kde 4.5 i find is allot more responive/polished :) .. although there is still room for improvment)
[16:19] <eMyller> yes
[16:20] <Alexia_Death> A whole new drive or just a partition of greater than or equal size?
[16:20] <ayush> alright thanks James147
[16:21] <Alexia_Death> in general dd-ing anything less than whole drives takes a lot of carefult thought.
[16:21] <eMyller> Alexia_Death: equal size; i just want to keep a copy of my working system partition to restore in case i mess it up with a new kernel, xorg drivers, etc
[16:21] <ayush> in gnome+compiz, there's a feature where it shows you all your desktops. and then you can drag and drop windows from one desktop to another. is there something similar for kwin?
[16:21] <James147> ayush: i belive so
[16:22] <Alexia_Death> eMyller: tarred rsync backup might serve better for this usecase.
[16:22] <ayush> James147: I can't seem to find it. what is it called?
[16:22] <eMyller> Alexia_Death: "sync" doesn't sound good in this case... i want a snapshot thing
[16:22] <James147> ayush: in desktop effects "Desktop grid"
[16:22] <eMyller> a simple dd sounded sufficient
[16:23] <James147> (ctrl+f8 by default)
[16:23] <Alexia_Death> eMyller: dd is more than a little bit dangerous. rsync is a fancy bacup copier that can store remissions and all.
[16:23] <Alexia_Death> premissions*
[16:23] <irbis> Русские естЬ?
[16:23] <eMyller> Alexia_Death: coolio, gonna check it out. :)
[16:23] <eMyller> thanks.
[16:23] <Alexia_Death> :)
[16:24] <eMyller> btw, is anyone here running kubuntu on a ck-patched kernel?
[16:24] <irbis> РУсских нету ((
[16:24] <eMyller> `ru @ irbis
[16:24] <irbis>  ??
[16:24]  * eMyller forgot about language messages
[16:24] <slackwarebob> guys do some repos have vmware player?
[16:25] <slackwarebob> or does one gotta go to vmware.
[16:25] <slackwarebob> to find the installation media?
[16:27] <irbis> Hi everybody I'm from Russia who does what can help a couple of questions to ask?
[16:27] <Alexia_Death> irbis: I can understand a little bit, but not too much.
[16:28] <irbis> I need to understand how to make a 3D cube
[16:28] <irbis> If good documentation on Linux
[16:29] <Pici> !ru
[16:29] <Alexia_Death> damnit. Its bork again.
[16:30] <irbis> I printsepe already dismantled it all but I need to delve deeper to understand dokontsa but without documentation I'm afraid not get along
[16:30] <irbis> Possible and in English if you can link
[16:31] <irbis> !ru
[16:32] <ayush> when I switch from desktop 1 to desktop 2, it still has the windows of desktop 1 in the taskbar. is that the way it is in KDE or can it be changed?
[16:33] <Alexia_Death> ayush: taskbar settings
[16:33] <Alexia_Death> you can configure it to ony show current desktop
[16:35] <ayush> Alexia_Death: thanks
[16:44] <Alexia_Death> murdered all my sessoin files this time
[16:45] <Alexia_Death> and it stoped again...
[16:45] <BluesKaj> did you regen xorg.conf , Alexia_Death ?
[16:46] <BluesKaj> or reconfig
[16:46] <Alexia_Death> No. It only has nvidia configuration anyway
[16:46] <Alexia_Death> Im getting random left clicks in this messed up state too
[16:46] <BluesKaj> ok, so your touchpad isn't listed as adevice
[16:47] <Alexia_Death> not in config
[16:47] <Alexia_Death> xintput test shows me that for X side the device is working fine
[16:47] <Alexia_Death> xinput*
[16:47] <BluesKaj> Alexia_Death, may i make a suggestion , use a separate usb mouse
[16:48] <Alexia_Death> BluesKaj: I am doing it. The same problem
[16:48] <Alexia_Death> one of the first things I tried.
[16:48] <BluesKaj> I hate touchpads
[16:48] <BluesKaj> ok ..seems weird
[16:49] <James147> Alexia_Death: it worked as it should in a new user right?
[16:49] <Alexia_Death> yes
[16:50] <Alexia_Death> It also worked in lock screen and kdm.
[16:50] <James147> Alexia_Death: I would try renaming ~/.kde   and see if it still happens... then delete the newly generated one and and rename it back... that will tell you if the problem file is inside ~/.kde or not
[16:51] <James147> Alexia_Death: then try the same with ~/.local and ~/.config
[16:51] <James147> (assuming renaming .kde dident work)
[16:56] <Alexia_Death> Urk... all my application setings went with the rename:P
[16:58] <pulaski> Good morning, the other day I somehow lost the icon to view my current clipboard contents. Later I learned how to use ctl-alt-v but before that I installed glipper to bring it back. It didn't work so I removed it. Mysteriously my kde desktop disappeared and now I seem to be running a gnome or ubuntu desktop. This works ok but I want my kde desktop back especially the clipboard icon. Yesterday I grabbed a new kubuntu 10.04, LTS,
[16:58] <pulaski> amd-64 live cd iso image but I was unable to re-install. It kept hanging on the scan-disk portion or the install process, at precisely the 47% point again and again. Today I visited the link in the channel topic: http://kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-45. I added the ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports line to my source.list and after an update I'm ready to install a bunch of new stuff. Will this re-enable my kde desktop? Has anyone had any
[16:58] <pulaski> similar experience?
[16:58] <FloodBotK1> pulaski: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:59] <James147> Alexia_Death: they would, thats way I said rename it back :)   it just to see if the problem is inside ~/.kde
[16:59] <Alexia_Death> URK.
[16:59] <Alexia_Death> I found the problem. Not software at all.
[17:00] <Alexia_Death> Hardware failure.
[17:01] <James147> pulaski: if you want kubuntu back install "kubuntu-desktop" that will install everything kubuntu needs
[17:01] <Alexia_Death> Left click in my touchpad is getting stuck in...
[17:01]  * James147 wonders why it worked on a new user tehn... Alexia_Death
[17:01] <James147> random chance i take it?
[17:01] <Alexia_Death> Hmmm... no, not really...
[17:02] <Alexia_Death> Or maybe just so.
[17:02] <pulaski> James147:  Thanks for responding. I'll try "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop".
[17:03] <James147> pulaski: once kubuntu-desktop is installed you should be able to pick kde or gnome from the login manager (there should be a button to bring up the list) also that ppa will update kde to version 4.5.1, if you try to install/update kubuntu-desktop (not a bad thing, i recomend it infact but you dont need it to get kde back))
[17:03] <Alexia_Death> Hmm...
[17:03] <Alexia_Death> but symptoms are exactly right.
[17:04] <Alexia_Death> If the left click is stuck on, I can do almost anything exapt click for focus...
[17:05] <pulaski> James147: Thanks again.  I'm ready to go. I'll put off ugrading kde to version 4.5.1 until after I install "kubuntu-desktop".
[17:05] <James147> Alexia_Death: hmm check the settings at System settings > Window behaviour > window behaviour > Window Actions ((note sure where it is on kde 4.4)
[17:06] <pulaski> I appreciate the help, cya ...
[17:07] <James147> (alt+f2: "window behaviour" > window actions should also get you there)
[17:08] <|Alexia_Death|> Thanks guys, and sorry for being a bother. It seems my mystery is solved:)
[17:12] <erendgen> привет всем. кто тут есть живой?
[17:12] <James147> !ru | erendgen
[17:19] <phoenix_> hello james
[17:20] <phoenix_> James147: hello
[17:20] <phoenix_> is there a program to monitor my cpu temperature
[17:21] <James147> phoenix_: hey, the widgets can do that
[17:21] <James147> or system monitor
[17:21] <phoenix_> James147: its not working
[17:21] <James147> you might need to install lm-sensors
[17:23] <phoenix_> James147: is it available in repos
[17:23] <James147> phoenix_: yes
[17:23] <larsjaaa> firefox
[17:23] <phoenix_> James147: ok i will try that
[17:28] <phoenix_> James147: its already installed
[17:29] <naftilos76> hi eveyone, i have Kubuntu 10.04 fully updated and latest KDE 4.5.1 (backports). I cannot see the CD in the DVD-RW drive. I can only get a "Copy with K3b" notification in the available devices. Any ideas what may be wrong? The DVD drive works fine in windows!
[17:29] <James147> phoenix_:then as far as I know the temperature widget should work
[17:29] <|Alexia_Death|> where is that kde5 backport repo?
[17:30] <naftilos76> you mean 4.5.1?
[17:30] <|Alexia_Death|> naftilos76: Did you test the drive in windows with Cd-s aswell?
[17:30] <naftilos76> yes it works fine
[17:31] <phoenix_> James147: sensors list  in the temperature widget is empty
[17:31] <|Alexia_Death|> ok, so not just a CD laser failure.
[17:31] <James147> phoenix_: configure the widget
[17:31] <James147> phoenix_: not sure what to do if the configur dialog dosnt list anything though
[17:32] <phoenix_> James147:ya, i ment the config dialog list
[17:32] <James147> naftilos76: I take it your not using a blank cd?
[17:33] <phoenix_> James147: ok, i will something
[17:33] <naftilos76> the problem is that when i insert a CD i get a notification "Copy with K3b" but not a drive link in dolphin so that i can access the contents. Even if i go to /media/cdrom0 nothing is there!
[17:33] <naftilos76> not a blank CD - certainly not1
[17:33] <|Alexia_Death|> naftilos76: Is it an audio CD?
[17:34] <naftilos76> no it is a data CD
[17:34] <James147> naftilos76: I suggest you try manually mounting it then, see if that works
[17:34] <BluesKaj> naftilos76, look for the device notifier widget
[17:34] <naftilos76> it is actually a setup CD for my printer
[17:35] <James147> naftilos76: also have you tried other cds?
[17:35] <naftilos76> some worked
[17:35]  * James147 notes that you shouldnt need a cd to setup a printer...
[17:36] <naftilos76> i just don't get it
[17:36] <|Alexia_Death|> naftilos76: Have you tried the same CD in windows with the same drive?
[17:36] <naftilos76> no to be honest - i have not tried many combinations...
[17:37] <compilerwriter> James147: BluesKaj do either of you use kmail or kontact?
[17:37] <James147> compilerwriter: nop
[17:38] <James147> compilerwriter: but ask your questiuon anyway :)
[17:38] <|Alexia_Death|> naftilos76: CD-s get damaged and become unreadable quite easily. Scratches and sunlight are both quite damaging.
[17:39]  * James147 dosent use cd/dvds and more... flash sticks are way more convient 
[17:39] <James147> s/and/any/
[17:40] <compilerwriter> Well I have had this vexing thing go on recently whereby I could no longer edit and then keep the edited version of my email filters.  So on the suggestion of a helpful person on the net they told me to look into my permissions.  It seems that I only have read permissions on my kontactrc and kmailrc files.  I am guessing that there my culprit lies.  What do you think.  I was going to ask you or BluesKaj to peek at yours
[17:40] <compilerwriter>  James147
[17:41] <James147> compilerwriter: I take it they are still owned by you?
[17:42] <BluesKaj> compilerwriter, not since my email provider decided to contract it's pop3 service out to hotmail, I've switched to their webmail service and gmail is my personal email service ...kmail worked ok while used it but it was changed too much after jaunty so i dropped it
[17:42] <compilerwriter> I still own them and can read them, but I can't write to them.
[17:43] <compilerwriter> Am I correct in believing the filters are kept in kmailrc
[17:43] <James147> compilerwriter: I am not sure where they are kept, :) but all the files in my ~/.kde/share/config are readably/writable by me... so i would suggest trying to make them wirtable
[17:44] <compilerwriter> Thanks James147 most of my others were too.
[17:44] <compilerwriter> will give it a try after some grub.
[17:45] <|Alexia_Death|> Why are the kubuntu updates marked blocked when I add backports?
[17:46] <James147> |Alexia_Death|: because kpackagekit dosent like updating things that remove/install other packages...   run from a terminal "sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude full-upgrade"
[17:46] <|Alexia_Death|> Im using apt-get and I heard from somewhere that mixing them is a bad idea.
[17:46] <|Alexia_Death|> lets see
[17:47] <James147> |Alexia_Death|: dosent really make much difference nowadays as far as I can gather but the equlivent command is:
[17:47] <James147> "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[17:47] <|Alexia_Death|> thought so... Thanks:)
[17:53] <BluesKaj> |Alexia_Death|, aptitude or apt , I've been using both lately but have settled on aptitude...the choice is yours
[17:56] <phoenix_> hello BluesKaj
[17:58] <BluesKaj> hi phoenix_
[18:01] <phoenix_> are some of the plasmoids written in java?
[18:03] <BajK> is there a way of speeding up korganizer?
[18:03] <BajK> it is sooo slow
[18:03] <BajK> resizing its window is a hell and even switching between months or views takes forever
[18:03] <BajK> (and the program sucks as well)
[18:14] <craig> I've found one inconsistency between Xubuntu & Kubuntu: there's no Ubuntu Software Installation Center in the current v. 10.10 Beta 1 Build of Kubuntu...
[18:14] <craig> This was also true of Kubuntu 10.04 too...
[18:15] <BajK> craig: ubuntu software installation center?
[18:16] <BajK> that package installer for dummies thingie?
[18:16] <craig> Yes BajK: I found a lot of FLOSS in there that I didn't even know existed...
[18:16] <Qqliini> Does anyone know, what channel is in Finnish?
[18:17] <BajK> craig: floss?
[18:17] <craig> Free Libre Open Source Software...
[18:17] <BajK> mkay
[18:18] <James147> craig: kubuntu uses kpackagekit instead of the ubuntu software center
[18:18] <James147> craig: but you should beabel to install it in kubuntu if you want...
[18:19] <BajK> and kpackagekit in 10.10 is awesome
[18:19]  * James147 agrees
[18:19] <craig> Yeah: how come KPackageKit isn't listed in the KMenu anywhere...?  I really don't like having to search for it whenever I need its functionality...
[18:20] <James147> craig: it should be
[18:20] <James147> craig: although i dont use the menu anymore :)
[18:20] <James147> craig: should be under the system section
[18:21] <BajK> James147: the search is unusable/unintuitive
[18:21] <James147> BajK: I find it very usable... I use it as a replacment for the menu
[18:22] <BajK> But it's just annoying that it starts searching only after you typed THREE letters
[18:22] <craig> Yeah OK: I am still finding breakage though like there's no Kubuntu version of OpenCASCADE...: which BTW does exist in Xubuntu...
[18:22] <BajK> if you type one letter, the menu's content disappears but it does nothing
[18:22] <BajK> you ahve to type "sys" for it to find sysinfo, systemsettings etc
[18:23] <craig> How exactly do you use beabel for installing Software...?  I've always just used apt-get or aptitude...
[18:23] <James147> BajK: thats to stop the backend ahving to do needlessly pointless searchs with too few letters... I tend to type three letters any way at least...
[18:24] <maco2> beabel?
[18:24] <BajK> James147: I can understand that
[18:24] <BajK> BUT
[18:24] <BajK> it is not intuitive
[18:24] <BajK> as it does nothing
[18:25] <BajK> the menu's contents just disappear
[18:25] <James147> craig: not sure what you mean by "no kubuntu version"... maby no kde version, but thats the same for allot of stuff. You can still use the software from ubuntu or xubuntu as they all share teh same repos and so have access to teh same packages
[18:26] <BluesKaj> craig, he meant be able to install , there's no beable
[18:26] <James147> BajK: the contents disapearing could be a problem... but I dont really see a problem, typeing one letter is hardly going to find what you want all the time so you may as well just hit a few more letters (it dosnt take that long)...
[18:27] <craig> I tried typing in sudo aptitude install opencascade but apt-get complains about that particular package as being non-existant...  I'm also having issues with OpenOffice.org not supporting the opening of Access files...  I can't sync with my Jornada 680 as such under Kubuntu...
[18:27] <BajK> James147: but it is distracting anyway that it seems to do something, the user might assume it is working in the background and waits for content to appear before going on typing
[18:27] <BajK> I also noticed this strange/annoying behavior with 3-letter-requirement in various places
[18:28] <James147> BajK: then you should file a bug report about that if there isnt one already
[18:29] <James147> craig: "aptitude search opencascade" list some packages that might be on intrest
[18:30] <djustice> where is this channel's log?
[18:30] <craig> Actually it lists various libs & such that are related to opencascade but not the actual core package which appears to be missing...
[18:30] <James147> !log
[18:31] <djustice> kool. thx :)
[18:31] <djustice> next question, where is ubottu's config? and what is it? py? perl? homegrown?
[18:32] <Tm_T> !ubottu > djustice
[18:32] <BajK> James147: done.
[18:32] <craig> I tried installing under Fedora Core 13 too & they don't have it in any or their Repos either...
[18:33] <craig> Maybe the core package for opencascade uses some shortened name...
[18:34] <craig> I mean typing sudo aptitude install opencascade is quite a mouthful for any Konsole user...
[18:35] <James147> craig: i aliased sudo aptitude install to 'i'   :)
[18:36] <djustice> Tm_T: thanks!
[18:36] <djustice> James147: nice. ':i' here. typo-safe.
[18:37] <craig> Yeah: strangely aptitude search opencascade only shows libraries as available for installation & not the core OpenCASCADE package itself...
[18:37] <James147> djustice: :D
[18:38] <craig> I can't install BRL-CAD either...: It doesn't even exist according to aptitude...
[18:38] <avihay> !wine > NewOne
[18:39] <Misterio> avihay: winehq maybe?
[18:39] <avihay> naa, was lazy, trying to have ubotto write to someone offchannel
[18:41] <craig> How exactly does one create aliases in Bash...?
[18:44] <James147> craig: "alias ALIAS='COMMAND'"
[18:45] <James147> craig: make it permanent by placing it in ~/.bashrc
[18:45] <James147> craig: eg I have in my ~/.bashrc the line: "alias upgrade='sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude full-upgrade'"
[18:47] <trichard> hey, is it possible that there is a dependency problem in the kubuntu-backports repo for 10.04?
[18:48] <James147> trichard: it is... whats the problem?
[18:48] <trichard> qt4-dev-tools seems to depend on libqtwebkit4 (>=2.0~week31) but it's not provided by that repo
[18:50] <craig> Where exactly in the .bashrc file do the aliases go...?
[18:50] <James147> craig: anywhere... i put them with the other alias commands already there
[18:51] <James147> trichard: yeah i got that as well, i assume it because something is still building but I am not sure, was gona try again tomorrow... Riddell might know more ;)
[18:52] <trichard> James147: ok, the other packages are there 2 days already or so
[18:54] <BluesKaj> BBL , errands
[18:58] <craig> Maybe OpenCASCADE hasn't finished building yet too...
[18:59]  * James147 doupts it...
[19:00] <craig> Maybe BRL-CAD is still in progress too...
[19:02] <craig> I suspect that all of these missing packages are just breakage in KDE 4.5.X...
[19:03] <James147> craig: then they wouldnt be missing...
[19:04] <James147> they are missing because they are not in the ubuntu repos... at least under the names you have looked for
[19:11] <craig> So how do I find out what name it's listed under...?
[19:12] <James147> craig: I dont know, i cannt find them...
[19:13] <craig> Yeah: that's what I thought maybe ubottu might know...
[19:15] <craig> !opencascade
[19:16] <olskolirc> how do I install a .plasmoid widget please?
[19:16] <craig> Apparently not even their bot knows anything about that particular package...
[19:17] <olskolirc> which package craig?
[19:17] <James147> !info opencascade
[19:17] <craig> OpenCASCADE.
[19:18] <olskolirc> not in karmic either
[19:19] <craig> Apparently not in Maverick either: I just tried installing it quite unsuccessfully...
[19:22] <Pici> Nor debian.
[19:23] <steven> hey how do i convert mp3 to wav so i can burn cd for my buddys
[19:23] <steven> anyone know
[19:24] <craig> Maybe it's listed as opencascade-draw: I just managed to get aptitude to install that without any issues...
[19:25] <craig> Though I must admit the name makes no sense at all to me whatsoever...
[19:26] <steven> anyone
[19:31] <BajK> can I install KDE in my user directory or so for just using it as my user? So the PC is running ubuntu but I don't like Gnome and I want to use KDE?
[19:34] <Tm_T> BajK: can be done, but is there some reason why it cannot be installed system-wide?
[19:34] <BajK> I probably won't have root access
[19:35] <Tm_T> and who has, refuses to install it?
[19:36] <Tm_T> BajK: I'm asking this as it would make things a whole lot easier (:
[20:04] <compilerwriter> James147: It would appear that somehow some way the permissions got changed and that changing them back fixed my issue.
[20:11] <hellslinger> sigh... anyone know how to setup mounting permissions for an ipod?
[20:11] <hellslinger> I don't want to have ot make entries in /etc/fstab, can't I just have UDEV mount it with full read and write permissions?
[20:13] <onev88> Hola
[20:13] <onev88> Hi
[20:15] <Scherenhaenden> hi everybody... always when i start my computer i got to write sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel model=laptopifconfig to have any sound n now im trying to here somo midis but it does not work.
[20:16] <pulaski> Hi, I just installed the new kde desktop 4.5.1. James147 Thanks for helping. Now I'm trying to find the default panel. I may have disabled it by mistake. I've learned to use ctl-F8 to show desktops and open apps but I'd like to bring back a panel. How can I do this?
[20:17] <James147> pulaski: on kde 4.5.1 its nice and easy :) right click the desktop > add panel > default panel
[20:18] <compilerwriter> James147: would you care to talk me through the kde4.5.1 setup now.  I have 4.4.2
[20:19] <James147> compilerwriter: see the topic for the link
[20:19] <James147> :)
[20:19] <pulaski> James147: Thanks for responding. I like 4.5.1 with application icons and a sort of taskbar on the desktop but so far but I get no response with a right click on the desktop.
[20:20] <compilerwriter> just add the backports and update then? James147
[20:20] <James147> compilerwriter: yup
[20:20] <makarevichi> ;
[20:20] <James147> compilerwriter: (best to update through apt-get or aptitude though)
[20:21] <compilerwriter> I have never liked kpackagekit.
[20:21] <James147> pulaski: hmm, are you on the netbook or desktop version?
[20:22] <James147> compilerwriter: its better in maverick
[20:22] <James147> much much better :)
[20:22] <compilerwriter> I hope so James147
[20:23] <compilerwriter> Are you using maverick now James147? or Just testing it?
[20:23] <James147> compilerwriter: have it installed on my netbook, not my desktop
[20:28] <compilerwriter> james did a sudo aptitude update and got: Current status: 8 updates [+2]
[20:28] <compilerwriter> James147: did a sudo aptitude update and got: Current status: 8 updates [+2]
[20:28] <pulaski> James147: Hard to say, I did 'sudo apt-get install kde-desktop then rebooted and it came up fine but the panel was missing. All my apps that used to be in the panel were arranged on the desktop and the panel settins icon was there but I managed to loose it. I got prompted to update for the nepomuk semantic destop virtouso RDF server and I just accepted all the updates. There may have been a notebook version included.  If I bring
[20:28] <pulaski> up kpackagekit and search for "notebook" applications perhaps I'll be able to see exactly what I've insalled. Let me try that.
[20:29] <James147> pulaski: i suggest you try installing kubuntu-desktop
[20:31] <James147> compilerwriter: hmm you enabled the backports ppa right?
[20:31] <compilerwriter> not yet James147 Just wanted to make certain I was totally up to date with what I had and then was going to do that.  Should I do an upgrade now?
[20:32] <James147> compilerwriter: then yes :)
[20:32] <James147> although I dont think iot would matter mcuh
[20:32] <compilerwriter> sudo aptitude upgrade correct? James147
[20:32] <James147> full-upgrade
[20:34] <compilerwriter> james it is updating linux headers and chromium and such things.
[20:34] <compilerwriter> James147: ^^^^^
[20:35] <James147> compilerwriter: shouldnt make much difference :)
[20:36] <compilerwriter> James147:  it says I need to restart.  Should I do that before I had the ppa thing?
[20:36] <compilerwriter> s/had/add/ James147
[20:37] <James147> compilerwriter: again :) it should make much difference but you can if you want
[20:37] <James147> compilerwriter: its jsut asking for that because it installed a new kernal
[20:37] <compilerwriter> now what file to do I edit to add the ppa to the sources thing again.
[20:39] <James147> compilerwriter: "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports" should add it
[20:40] <pulaski> James147: Thanks, yes I installed kubuntu-desktop first thing. After reboot the kde desktop came up as expected but it was unfamiliar with icons for apps that used to be in the panel now neatly arranged in a row on the desktop and a dialog box displayed "Nepmuk semantic desktop needs the virtuoso RDF Server to store its data. Installing the virtuoso soprano plugin is mandatrory for using nepomuk. I got notified that there were a
[20:40] <pulaski> buch of updates available so I accepted them all. Let me see what sort of "desktop" applications I have installed usning kpackagekit.
[20:42] <compilerwriter> Current status: 149 updates [+149], 244 new [+244]. Do I want to do a full upgrade  again or should I just install kde something or another?
[20:42] <compilerwriter> James147: ^^^^
[20:42] <James147> compilerwriter: full-upgrade should be enough
[20:43] <pulaski> James147: Currently kpackagekit tells me I'm running the "KDE Plasma workspce for desktop and laptop computers"
[20:44] <James147> pulaski: do you have a panel?
[20:44] <compilerwriter> James147:  it is doing its thing.  Will I get the newer improved kpackagekit or is that only in maverick?
[20:44] <pulaski> James147: Not any longer.
[20:44] <James147> compilerwriter: only im maverick, but you can compile it form source if you want
[20:45] <compilerwriter> You can hold my hand through that another day.
[20:45] <James147> compilerwriter: maverick is due on the 10th :) may as well wait for that
[20:46] <compilerwriter> I may well wait a bit longer for that.  Let the early adopters find the ugly bugs that may be lurking.  I am willing to join the fileshare hive of some torrent if it will help those early adopters along.
[20:47] <compilerwriter> Good grief.  I just downloaded a new kdepim version.  I hope I don't have to go fix my rc files again.
[20:48] <Guest10963> hello
[20:48] <James147> compilerwriter: should need to fix them again... not sure what made them non wirtable :S
[20:49] <James147> brb, need to reboot :)
[20:52] <olskolirc> anyone having a problem with vlc's video display on Lucid?
[20:53] <olskolirc> and when does the final of Maverick come out please?
[20:55] <compilerwriter> olskolirc: I believe it is due 10 October.
[20:56] <compilerwriter> brb rebooting
[21:07] <Guilo> Hi !
[21:07] <Lars_G> Is there any (easy) way to deactivate the unity menu? if possible for a single app?
[21:07] <Guilo> I am using Korganizer 4.4.6 and can't find any way to import a remote calendar
[21:08] <Guilo> I have seen such a problem on kde forum and it had been solved by installing kdepim-kresources
[21:08] <Guilo> but here I already have this package
[21:08] <Guilo> can anybody tell me what he has in the file menu in korganizer or how to import a remote calendar ?
[21:10] <Guilo> even when i try to import local ical calndar (i put ics file in my home directory) it says it can't find it
[21:49] <Craigwdy2k> I need an Open Source Lego Mindstorms NXT NXT-G programming environment...  Are there any available for Kubuntu...?
[21:52] <Walzmyn> Craigwdy2k: I think Google would be your friend for that.
[21:52] <Craigwdy2k> I already tried googling it once before & none appear to exist that are Linux compatible. ):
[21:53] <James147> Craigwdy2k: then there is always wine... or even a vm
[21:53] <Walzmyn> Craigwdy2k: ok. I've no idea what that is, so I can't help ya.
[21:53] <uvidijus> sveiki
[21:56] <Craigwdy2k> Lego Mindstorms NXT is a Lego robotics kit: Speaking of WINE: I previously had Windows XP Pro. SP 3. installed but I don't even see a GRUB boot Menu showing me the option of booting into Windows...  Did I just accidentally kill my Windows install by installing Kubuntu...?
[21:57] <Domokun> Craigwdy2k: Probably not as long as you installed windows first
[21:58] <Craigwdy2k> Once again I'm still at a loss for words as to why NTFS-3G fails to automount my NTFS partition where Windows is installed...
[21:58] <knubbze> hi, i just installed kubuntu. how do i configure my touchpad to only react when my finger is actually touching it
[21:59] <knubbze> as opposed to already detecting movement when my finger is only hovering a centimeter above it
[22:00] <Domokun> try to find some drivers for it
[22:00] <knubbze> kk will do thanks
[22:00] <James147> knubbze: a centi meter? really... ? wow never hear of a touch pad that could do that :S
[22:01] <James147> knubbze: not sure how configureable that would be though
[22:01] <James147> Craigwdy2k: do you have an entry in /etc/fstab for your ntfs partion? if not then thats why its not mounting at boot
[22:01] <knubbze> well under windows it doesnt do it
[22:01] <knubbze> so
[22:01] <knubbze> i guess it's config-related
[22:02] <James147> knubbze: them posibally... just never hear of a touch pad that is able to detect something thats not touching it :S
[22:02] <trichard> knubbze: you can adjust that in the system settings
[22:02] <Craigwdy2k> Oh My: I was right: according to GParted I no longer have a Windows XP Pro. install...
[22:03] <trichard> knubbze: Input devices ==> Touchpad ==> Touch sensitivity
[22:03] <Craigwdy2k> So I guess the /etc/fstab issue is a very mute point now...
[22:04] <James147> Craigwdy2k: yup, need a partition to add it to taht file :)
[22:04] <James147> :S
[22:04] <Domokun> Craigwdy2k: that sounds like an install error ... i remember when i tried to install normal Ubuntu it would want to write my whole drive
[22:05] <Craigwdy2k> I also just tried to run the Winetricks for IE 7 script & the IE 7 Installer appears to have frozen solid on me...  Any advice...?
[22:05] <James147> Domokun: normally it should suggest to resize the largest partition or use the largest free space not wipe the drive (unless it cannot find enough room)... i tend to do manual partitions as it cannot know what I want :)
[22:06] <James147> Craigwdy2k: you could try asking on #winehq they are more likly to know
[22:06] <Craigwdy2k> Thanks: will do.
[22:07] <Domokun> James147: I had a 30 GB windows side and my drive is 250 GB i dont see how that is not enough space ... i forgot how i fixed that problem
[22:16] <Craigwdy2k> How do I take a screenshot of a backtrace...?  I think I may have just managed to crash WINE along with the IE 7 Installer...
[22:19] <Walzmyn> Craigwdy2k: use ksnapshot
[22:23] <Craigwdy2k> Where should I paste the screenshot...?  What site should I use...?  Isn't there an Ubuntu pastebin site I should use for this purpose...?
[22:24] <Craigwdy2k> Or do the winehq guys have their own pastebin site...?
[22:28] <decalc> hey everyone i need help.. i've deleted some packages by mistake on kubuntu and now applications like firefox and rhythmbox are not looking good
[22:28] <Craigwdy2k> I think I may just have found another bug: the Ksnapshot copy to clipboard button isn't copying my screenshot image...: I'm having great difficulty trying to paste it into pastebin.com...
[22:29] <decalc> what do i need to reinstall?
[22:40] <highvoltage> apachelogger: hey! you marked the KTouch swear word bug as fix releades, is that in maverick already?
[22:43] <Craigwdy2k> I can't find a decent site to upload viewable screenshots to...  A little help please...
[22:44] <Craigwdy2k> Where do screenshots usually get uploaded to for Ubuntu bug reports & the like anyways...?
[22:46] <Bucky> hi. error lines are printed at log out, but they go away to soon to read them. there's a log file in wich i can read those?
[22:47] <Naktibalda> Hi
[22:47] <Naktibalda> I'm trying to build a deb package of Qt based application, but it must be built using cmake
[22:48] <ubuntu> can someone help me, im stuck in grub menu after adding a start up app
[22:51] <ubuntu> anyone please help me?
[22:51] <ubuntu> im in a panic i think i killed my os and might have to start over
[22:54] <James147> ubottu: what do you mean by stuck in grub?
[22:54] <James147> :(
[22:55] <ubuntu> hey sorry
[22:55] <ubuntu> im the guy with the grub problem
[22:55] <ubuntu> i just changed my name, i added a session in ubuntu and when i rebooted it took me to grub
[22:56] <ubuntu> the session i added was kwin --replace & i was trying to make it auto start in ubuntu so i didnt have to use the default decorations for ubuntu ,.....im actually running kubuntu 10.04 but i was logged into kubuntu 10.04 when i did this
[22:57] <ubuntu> right now im logged in using a 9.04 live cd
[22:57] <ubuntu> kubuntu live i should say
[22:57] <James147> ubuntu: what happens at grub? why can you not boot?
[22:58] <ubuntu> i have no idea, im sure it happened when i added the line kwin --replace & to auto start because i restarted right away and was brought straight to grub
[22:59] <ubuntu> i guess my question is is there a way for me to remove that auto start line kwin --replace & using my live cd?
[22:59] <ubuntu> or is there a grub command i can use to remove kwin --replace & from auto start?
[22:59] <James147> ubuntu: i mean what is grub telling you what do you see?
[22:59] <James147> ubuntu: grub dosnt care about kwin...
[23:00] <Craigwdy2k> I think my Firefox Plug-In Finder just froze...
[23:00] <ubuntu> it gives no errors it just says like press exit for a list of commands and thats about it i didnt see anything that said error or a problem
[23:01] <ubuntu> but it must of been from where i added that line because it happened right away
[23:01] <Craigwdy2k> I was trying to sign-up for ImageShack after hearing that it's apparently a great Linux friendly screenshot upload site but when I tried to install the missing Plug-Ins Firefox's Plug-In Finder Installer eventually just crashed on me...
[23:02] <James147> ubuntu: well you could try reinstalling grub:
[23:02] <James147> !grub2 | ubuntu
[23:02] <ubuntu> will i lose anything?
[23:02] <ubuntu> like settings or programs
[23:02] <James147> ubuntu: reinstalling grub shouldnt touch your data
[23:03] <ubuntu> can i use konsole from live cd to install it?
[23:03] <James147> ubuntu: yes, see the link ubottu gave for how to reinstall  it
[23:04] <ubuntu> ok awesome thank you ill try that right now
[23:16] <ubuntu__> hey man just installed grub again and still no luck
[23:22] <ubuntu> anyone know where the sessions folder is located? or how to get it up with terminal
[23:57] <illunatic> !dnssec