[00:00] slackwarebob: only if the attacker has access to the comp while the drives are unlocked :S (or recently locked) [00:00] and assuming they are not stupid enough to power down the computer :) [00:00] (or have access to a quantum computer :D ) [00:00] slackwarebob: beside, most people wont really care that much about your data to be bothered to properly decrypt a disk, they are more likly to just sell i [00:00] t [00:05] fdisk /dev/disk-by-state/encrypted/* [00:15] * crack05 is away (Gone) === crack05 is now known as CRACK05 [00:26] James147: it's true that most people won't care. === Freejack is now known as Freejack` === bdk is now known as Aimee === Aimee is now known as Mark35 === alan__ is now known as crazytrash === Shaun is now known as Shaun2 [01:53] easy way to make 50 pictures re-encoded to be sent as email (20 MB limit) [01:57] What is a good time after the release of a new version to upgrade? Day of? day after? week after? [01:58] ScottyK: depends on the way you update (gui or cli) because cli cant break systems if the update is bad [01:59] if the system works for what you need you should just update the distro you have and wait at least two weeks [01:59] cjae - I hear you. after a bad upgrade to KDE, I'm sold on just doing it all from the command line. [02:00] well gui sometimes blocks some updates that might be "not so good" [02:00] sometimes* [02:00] opps [02:00] multitasking lol === adrian is now known as Guest51752 [02:03] the package managers have been going through major overhauls since 8.10 so really you should wait [02:03] kpackagekit in 10.10 seems to be very good so far [02:04] aside from the default search by name thing that one must switch all the time when searching for packages you are not sure about the name :P [02:05] I've been doing it all from the command line (updating), with the occasional foray into Synaptic, just to see what is out there [02:06] aptitude safe-upgrade seems to be the best way to keep system functioning [02:07] but aptitude is not installed by default in 10.10 [02:12] so what's the difference between aptitude and apt-get? I've been using apt-get update and apt-get upgrade [02:21] cjae: I use http://yofel.dyndns.org/trac/browser/bash/conv.sh to modify photos that are too large here. (convert is part of imagemagick) [02:21] yofel: thanks [02:28] ScottyK: not much these days, but aptitude has a different dependency resolver, and while apt-get upgrade will only upgrade packages IIRC, safe-upgrade will refuse to remove packages but will happily install new packages to resolve dependency conflicts === root is now known as Guest99701 [02:57] hey guys [02:58] i originally had gnome installed for ubuntu, and wanted to try out kde therefore i did 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop' and everything went find. Now i have logged into the kdm but whenever notifications come up on the side the text is black on black so i can't read. is there anyway to change that ? === ubuntu is now known as zus [04:14] to update grub is "sudoo update grub"? [04:15] hey guys [04:16] i want to be able to open konsole when i press the windows key on my keyboard. How would i go about setting this up ? === ubuntu is now known as zus === FireCrotch_ is now known as FireCrotch === rackIT_AFK is now known as rackIT === rackIT is now known as rackIT_AFK === eamanola is now known as ese_ [06:49] hmm, these are not the droids i was looking for [06:57] Beep Bllo beep [07:27] how to stop update-notifier-kde from starting automatically at system startup in kubuntu? === Mamarok_ is now known as Mamarok === mistrynitesh is now known as niteshmistry === niteshmistry is now known as nitesh === nitesh is now known as mistrynitesh === mahmoud is now known as Guest10809 [08:49] anyone from olongapo city????????? [08:52] Hello everybody [08:53] exit === niels_ is now known as nielsbusch [09:50] does anybody know if I can lock the plasmoids just in one Desktop Activity but not in the rest? [09:50] I'm in kde 4.4.2 running under kubuntu 10.04 [09:50] I'm looking for good netbook in terms of performance. Which channel I can go for? === longuinnez is now known as Fox [10:01] hi === user is now known as radiotux === radiotux is now known as radiotux_live [10:36] hi === ping__luce is now known as faLUCE [11:36] hi everybody [11:39] Hi there! I have a 093a:2626 Pixart webcam. two of my 10.04 recognize and work with it OK (they load pac7311) but the third one doesn't. Any idea how to check what's wrong or to install the missing bits? Kubuntu 10.04, dmesg outputs here: http://pastebin.com/xJAq9F6j [12:00] hi, how can I send notifications? [12:04] blubbar: notifications to where/what [12:05] ikonia: from a small script and it should send a message to the kde notification area [12:06] oh, no idea [12:06] ok [12:06] in Gnome I think there is something like notify-send but I can't find anything similar in kde [12:11] blubbar: something with qdbus org.kde.Knotify event perhaps? [12:12] whoa, why do I have 140 updates of KDE packages? [12:12] frogonwheels: checking thanks [12:15] ** Kubuntu 10.10 RC Candidates need testing, help out in #kubuntu-devel http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/ === root is now known as Guest10201 [13:18] HIyas all === rgreening_ is now known as ghost === ghost is now known as rgreening [13:32] i updated kubuntu from 9.04 to 10.04 and been seeming to have some problems that apparently work fine out of the box. is there a way to use the konsole to erase all the apps i've put on and put on all the ones that come with only a fresh box install? [13:33] justin_: not easily... but possible [13:34] james147: i am kinda new to this stuff, but know the basics. what would be the most difficult part? [13:34] justin_: forgetting an important package... [13:35] james147: yes i see what you mean. i was hoping i could find repos and a command online to start from scratch [13:36] justin_: not so much dificult, more dangrous... you would baically ahve to remvoe all packages, then reinstall the ones you wanted (remembering the required ones)... but you dont want to actually remove anything important :) ... (best way is to use aptitude and schedual the changes) [13:37] justin_: give me a sec, I found a guide once on howto do ti [13:38] justin_: ... an easier way would be to just do a fresh install though (if you DO NOT format /home will remain intact, but ALWAYS do a backup before a fresh install) [13:40] james147: well i seem to be out of blank cd's to make a live image, so i had to use my 9.04 and upgrade. howevery my external hdd and some other minor things i found work on out of the box, and not by upgrading [13:41] justin_: do you have a spare 1gig or more usb stick? if so you can create a live usb [13:41] !liveusb [13:41] For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent [13:41] james147: no i do not, i used to but they came up missing [13:42] :S ... I would highly recomend creating a livecd then if you dont already have one, they are a very useful thing to have lieing around if your system decided to die [13:44] hello , why does Kubuntu skip all video & audio streams? , Kubuntu sys. has twice the memory than my winblows [13:44] RelookNA: do you have "kubuntu-restricted-extras" installed? if it dosent ahve the codecs it tends to skip the file [13:45] tks james, I will look into that [13:46] justin_: cannot find that guide... although I am not sure how much removing package would help anyway :) you could try reinstalling kubuntu-desktop ... that has all the dependencies for kubuntu so should at least install everything the default kubuntu has [13:47] justin_: otherwise I suggest you tell us exactly whats not working and we can help you fix it :) [13:48] james147: well my external hdd which is an old laptop hdd with an ide/sata to usb 2.0 adapter is not recognized at all. i was hoping if i could get that to be recognized, then i can do a fresh install from that [13:48] i have found others with the same problem [13:49] justin_: can you pastebin the output of "sudo fdisk -l" [13:50] justin@justin:~$ sudo fdisk -l [13:50] Disk /dev/sda: 250.1 GB, 250059350016 bytes [13:50] 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 30401 cylinders [13:50] Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes [13:50] Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes [13:50] justin_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [13:50] I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes [13:51] didnt mean to, never knew about that [13:52] justin_: its ok :) can you put it in a pastebin? [13:52] how do i go about that [13:52] !pastebin [13:52] For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [13:53] How can I create a shortcut for an application? [13:53] Qwert: right click the kmenu > edit menu (or run kmenuedit) [13:56] I'm having some major profductivity problems with version 10 and could really use some guidance. Am I at the right place? [13:57] Wardgom: kubuntu 10.04? then yes :) === rackIT is now known as rackIT_AFK [14:00] !pm | Wardgom [14:00] Wardgom: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first. [14:01] James147: What are the other ways of creating shortcut? [14:02] Qwert: create a *.desktop file with th appropate contents... tell us what you are trying to accomplish overall and we can tell you the best way to do that [14:02] Sorry, about PM. [14:03] Wardgom: its fine :) [14:04] ABout Kubuntu 10; finding it has a host of small and big problems. 9 worked very well for me. Trying to see if it's just me or is the release just buggier than normal [14:04] James147: Well I usually run VirtualBox's particular disrto usind CLI, as a shortcut to access the distro immediately. Same command works well for the method you initially suggested. What other methods exits? [14:04] Wardgom: state what problems you are having (preferblly with as much detal as you can give) [14:07] James147: Eh? [14:08] Qwert: *.desktop files are mostly the only application "shortcut"... (kmenuedit creates these for you)... however you can also simlink the executable to a new location if you want (although I dont think thats what you want to do) or write a bash script to execute the program (often this can be done inside a *.desktop file... or you would use a *.desktop file to point to a script) [14:08] One prob at a time?: Dolphin crashes when openning many and various filetypes. They are often opened, but all instances go down. Theyre no "debug" packages listed and the reporting tool gives no joy. But the crash is reproduceable.\ [14:09] James147: How to create simlink? [14:09] Wardgom: well, dolphin has no dpg package :) but the librarys it depends on do... I have a feeling that might be a config problem... I highly usggest you try a new user and see if it happens with them [14:10] Qwert: "ln -s file linkname" (file and linkname can be paths) or in dolphin right click (or drag and drop) > create shortcut to ..) [14:11] Wardgom: if it works as it should in a new user then try renaming ~/.kde/share/config/dolphinrc on your orignal user [14:11] that will reset dolphin to its default settings [14:11] Create a new user? Force a fresh set of config files? Worth a try. [14:12] Wardgom: thats the idea [14:12] What all things the desktop file should contain? [14:13] Wardgom: there are a supprising number of bugs related to upgrading from older version :) these are harder to fix as most people just delete the configs to fix the problem (usually making them less of an issue) [14:13] Qwert: Look at other desktop files, I am not sure on exactly what the need... a name and an exec line might be enough (either way looking at other ones is helpful) [14:14] Thanks James147 [14:15] Is upgrading Kubuntu 9 to Kubuntu 10 different from installing Kubuntu 10 from disc and pointing to my Home partition? (My Home directory has it's own Partition) [14:15] James147: I want windows opened by an application to not show up in the top of the stacking order [14:15] Wardgom: if the upgrade worked then not espically [14:15] (windows opened from panel I don't care so much either way) [14:16] This is second issue [14:16] Qwert: hmm.. not entirly sure how to fix that... but I would think the focuse stealing prevention might be helpful [14:17] James147: How? [14:19] Qwert: (on kde 4.5) alt+F3 (on any window) > Configure Window Behavious > focus... [14:19] Qwert: or somewhere in system settings :) [14:19] Are intermittent system-hangs a possible consequence of a not-perfect upgrade from 9 to 10? [14:19] Wardgom: possible... [14:20] Wardgom: its hard to say... testing on a livecd is the best way to tell [14:20] James147: Where in system settings? [14:21] on kde 4.5 (they move allot of things around, cant remember where everything is on 4.4 anymore :S ) System settings > Window Behaviour > Window Behavious > Focus [14:23] compiz, ccsm, there are options [14:24] the problem is that they don't work with focus-follows mouse, basically [14:24] compiz? thats not part of kde :S [14:25] Qwert: what desktop envrioment are you using? [14:25] Basically, the problem is that they don't work with focus-follows mouse. [14:25] KDE [14:27] Qwert: you should be changing the "Focus stealing prevention level" its options are none, low > extream... dont know where the compiz, ccsm options are :S [14:28] who disturbs my slumber? [14:48] I want to switch from ubuntu to kubuntu. I just want to know that when a newer stable version is released, will I be able to upgrade? Or would I have to do a fresh install and lose all my settings/applications? [14:49] ayush, you can upgrade [14:49] ayush: Which OS are you on now? [14:49] ayush: if you dont want to do a fresh install then install "kubuntu-desktop" and you will have both kde and gnome installed [14:49] install kubuntu-desktop [14:49] ayush: you can then just pugrade [14:49] Ubuntu -> Kubuntu [14:49] sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop [14:49] sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop [14:49] sudo apt-get remove liborbit2(This will remove gnome mode option ie gnome desktop) [14:49] Now you have only KDE! [14:49] Qwert: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [14:49] Qwert: right now I'm on linux mint 9 LXDE [14:50] Qwert, that wont do it [14:50] !purekde [14:50] If you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE » === desti_T2 is now known as desti [14:50] ayush, thats mint and debian [14:50] okay I think you all misunderstood me. [14:51] ayush, mint is not supported in ubuntu channels [14:52] I have ubuntu 10.04 installed on a laptop. I'm gona install kubuntu 10.04 on it now. what I want to know is when kubuntu 10.10 is released, will I be able to upgrade via the internet? Or would I need to download the 10.10 iso and then install it, thus losing all my settings and applications? [14:52] ayush, sure [14:53] Upgrade. [14:53] you can upgrade it === Misterio is now known as Misterio_ === Misterio_ is now known as Misterio [14:53] alright, thanks Qwert and bazhang [14:53] ayush: yes you will be able to upgrade, however if you are going to do a fresh install of kubuntu now i would recomend waiting a couple weeks and jsut doing a freshin stall of kubuntu 10.10 [14:53] ayush, welcome [14:53] Thanks to bazhang and James147. btw [14:54] ayush, in future, you might consider a separate home partition as well [14:54] Yeah.. [14:55] ayush: also, doing a fresh install dont ahve to distroy your settings (the ones in /home at least) as if you do not formate the drive the installer wont touch /home [14:55] bazhang: if I have a separate home partition, I won't have to re-install my applications? [14:55] ayush: you applications you will [14:55] (unless they are ones you ahve manually installed in /home [14:56] James147: I guess it affects.. It clashes [14:56] Qwert: ?? [14:57] James147: alright thanks. if I can ask an linux newbie questions, what is the "Program files" equivalent in linux? lets say I install firefox, where will it get installed? [14:57] ayush: most likly /use/bin but they acn also be in /bin [14:57] ayush: but you should NOT just back up that location [14:57] usr you mean [14:58] ayush: nots better to grab a list of packages from dpkg and reinstall the [14:58] bazhang: yes :) sorry [14:58] /usr/bin ^^ [14:58] :) [14:59] * James147 likes how the new kpackagekit (0.6) lets you import and export a packagekit :D [14:59] package list ^^ [14:59] so everytime I need install a new linux distro, I just format the '/home' partition and leave '/' as it is? [14:59] ayush: NO the other way around [14:59] ayush, the reverse [14:59] oh ok thanks :) [14:59] Opposite.. and not what you said. Thats not how it works [15:00] ayush: if you dont format the drive kubuntu will delete and recreate the system folders [15:00] (leaveing /home as it is) [15:00] got it :) [15:00] ayush: what ever you do backup your data [15:01] James147: I was talking about the .files of the old system. Will overwriting it on .files created by new installation help? [15:01] there is always a change something will go wrong :) [15:01] also, does anyone know if that desktop cube effect (compiz) works in KDE? [15:01] Qwert: what .files? [15:01] ayush, sure, but kde4 has its own eye candy [15:02] ayush: compiz works in kde... sorta, but you really should jsut use kwin... it has its own cube effect [15:02] James147: Hidden files. Dolphin manager... (Alt+.) [15:02] Qwert: I know that, but what hidden files? the ones in ~ ? [15:02] James147: Yes, including that [15:03] James147, are you saying there's no need to format / in order to do a clean install and still preserve /home ? [15:03] Qwert: as far as I know the installation dosent touch /home at all... [15:03] does kubuntu come with kwin or would I need to install it? [15:03] BluesKaj: last I tested that works [15:04] BluesKaj: at elast kubuntu warned me and told me it was going to delete the system folders :) and it left /home as it was [15:04] ayush: kwin is the default window manager so yes it comes with it :) [15:04] anyone using 12 inches Tablet pc with kubuntu? [15:04] James147, ok good , maybe I''ll do that with 10.10 because the last OS I formatted / , but /home was untouched [15:06] okay last question. can the KDE konsole be made transparent like the gnome terminal? [15:06] BluesKaj: dont think it matters if they are on seperate drives or not, if the installer finds files in the system folders I think it just deletes them... so as long as you dont formate the drive with /home on it should be fine (but ALWAYS backup incase) [15:06] ayush: yes [15:07] James147: can you tell me how please. because I tried once and didn't find a transparency option [15:07] * James147 still thinks its a good idea to ahve a seperate /home ... incase you want to formate /) [15:08] Hi, I think I managed to mix up one of my packages - its configuration file is empty and there is no script for it in /etc/init.d/. I don't want the package anymore. Everything I do something with aptitude I get this error. How do I solve it? http://pastebin.com/JP47PZgj [15:08] James147: I was talking about the files like .kde, .irssi, .marble, .mozilla .. [15:09] ayush: settings > configure profile > edit profile > Appearence > Edit: "Background transparency" desktop effects might need to be enabled (including the trtansparency effect) [15:09] Qwert: they wont be touched by a new install [15:09] James147: Are you sure? [15:09] Qwert: they arent created untill you log in [15:09] James147, I was concerned the first time I tried installing jaunty with /home on a separate partition that ubiquity would install a seperate /home on the partition I had reserved for / . Guess i worry too much :) [15:09] James147: But.. [15:10] Qwert: kde dosent really care if its the first run after an install or not, it look for .kde and creates it if its not there [15:11] James147: Yeah.. that was not the case with VirtualBox files.. all vdi files were not detected. It happened with adobe flash player as well that I had to install it again [15:12] BluesKaj: yeah I worried about it abit to, but I decided to test it once (think on a vm) with only one partition and it left /home untouched after a fresh install (without fformating) [15:12] Qwert: flash is installed to a system location and will be deleted on a fresh install... so you need to install it again [15:12] James147, yes, I wish the install instructions one finds on the net would make that clear . [15:12] Qwert: VirtualBox I have uninstall and reinstalled many atimes and it has always foudn the previous settings [15:13] James147: Umm... where are all the vdi files stored usually? [15:13] BluesKaj: dont think many people know what the installer does :) they are just doing what everyone thinks is the safestway [15:13] ciao a tutti [15:13] !list [15:13] This is not a file sharing channel (or network); be sure to read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot » [15:13] Qwert: somewhere in ~ I think one sec [15:14] one thing about VB I don't like is the unadjustable screen size [15:14] * James147 can adjust VB scren size [15:14] BluesKaj: For that you need GuestAddtion installed [15:14] Its possible. [15:14] hi everybody... i have a machine where there are too many installed kernels... could i delete the all kernels? [15:15] But leave one... the latest ob [15:15] someone told me to install windows on VB to enable netflix streaming , but why bother on a dinky screensize [15:15] Scherenhaenden: uninstall them (make sure you dont uninstall ALL of them) searching for 2.6.32 in a packagemanager tends to find them all [15:16] Qwert, guest addition? [15:16] BluesKaj: One sec [15:16] BluesKaj: install teh guest addition, I have been able to adjust the screen size [15:16] BluesKaj: Which version you got? [15:16] w7 [15:16] BluesKaj: check the menus of VB it should be one of the options there to dl it [15:16] BluesKaj: From package or website? [15:16] James147: no well... i just wanna unistalled some of them... in clicked on more than 30 of them... cuz there are hearders n imges that are installed since kubuntu 6.10 n now i have kubuntu 10.10... there are really tooooooo many file... n too much place [15:17] Qwert: my vdi files are at ~/.VirtualBox/HardDisks/ [15:18] Qwert, dunno what you're referring to [15:18] BlueKaj: From where was vbox downloaded? Website or pakage manager? [15:19] Scherenhaenden: search for linux-image and linux-head and you should be able to find and uninstall them... there is no easier way as far as i know [15:20] James147: In that case, if I backup those files and use it on fresh install. I will not have to install guest os again. Right? [15:20] Qwert, I just installed VB by aptitude , from the repos , but I removed it after I realized all the limitations [15:20] Qwert: thats the theroy [15:21] James147: yeah... i did it... i knew wich of them... but i was not sure if id need them... but on them are more than 20 gigas... :S... is too much place [15:21] James147: n i dont use a lot of them since years from years [15:21] BlueKaj: Oh.. I asked because if it was from website, you had to download one file from it. Otherwise, now you should be able to see "Install Guest Additions" [15:22] Scherenhaenden: you only really need one working kernal, best to keep a spare one around though, so I would just keep the ones you use [15:23] James147: u right... thanks.... ill do it ;) [15:23] Scherenhaenden: just make sure you dont delete the kernal your using :) [15:24] James147: that could i do XD! [15:31] <|Alexia_Death|> Hi. Im having a very strange problem. [15:32] <|Alexia_Death|> Everything is fine in kdm and for a minute or two after kde start, but then it seems that focus no longer follows mouse clicks. [15:33] <|Alexia_Death|> I can chage focus with alt tab for windows but thats it. Cant navigate withing windows with clicks either. [15:34] <|Alexia_Death|> this started happening after coming upp from sleep. [15:35] |Alexia_Death|, have you rebooted ? [15:36] <|Alexia_Death|> BluesKaj: yes [15:36] <|Alexia_Death|> And restarted kdm repeatedly. [15:37] <|Alexia_Death|> BluesKaj: Im having the same symtoms with both my synaptics touchpad and USB mouse. I cant see how this coud be a hardware issue. [15:38] <|Alexia_Death|> I took a look with xinput test even. Click events do happen. [15:38] |Alexia_Death|: Test a new user, should tell you if its a config problem [15:38] <|Alexia_Death|> Im suspecting a messed up state was saved somewhere before sleep, but I do not know where KDE stores such setings. [15:39] |Alexia_Death|: also most kde settings are in ~/.kde so there wuld be a good start :) [15:40] <|Alexia_Death|> James147: I do not wanna murder my whole setup. Just created a new user. Trying. [15:40] <|Alexia_Death|> Anybody know a keyboard shortcut for new user session? [15:40] |Alexia_Death|: not suggesting you delete .kde, but look inside it for the session stuff [15:41] |Alexia_Death|: lock teh screen [15:41] (ctrl+alt+l) [15:42] James147: hey.... i have two diwsks... both disks have swap... but this kubuntu take just one of them... how could i take these another swap on my kubuntu? === besitzer is now known as besitzer__ [15:43] Scherenhaenden: each swap file/partiton needs an entry in /etc/fstab to be used (at elast without manually turning it on) [15:43] James147: ill look for that [15:43] <|Alexia_Death|> James147: On lock screen clicks work:P [15:44] :S [15:45] <|Alexia_Death|> James147: under brand new test user, its yet to show the same problem aswell [15:46] |Alexia_Death|: weird :D [15:46] :S [15:46] <|Alexia_Death|> So at this point its pretty safe bet that is a messed up config file somewhere... [15:47] <|Alexia_Death|> Whats the component in kde thats responsible for focus tracking? [15:47] |Alexia_Death|: I would try reinstalling kubuntu-desktop... not sure if it will do anything [15:47] <|Alexia_Death|> kwin? [15:47] I would say kwin [15:48] <|Alexia_Death|> Okay. Lets start by murdering its setings. [15:48] |Alexia_Death|: try installing kubuntu-desktop anyway, it will pull any missing pcakages you might need [15:48] |Alexia_Death|: Then I would suggest "sudo dpkg-reconfigure kwin" [15:49] <|Alexia_Death|> I have no missing pacages from kubuntu desktop it appears. [15:50] was worth a shot :) [15:50] <|Alexia_Death|> hmm... rename then. Forensic reasons. Killing X first so it wont save the messed up state again [15:57] bummer , I finally located this tutorial ...it could help http://ubuntulinux.co.in/blog/ubuntu/ubuntu-9-10/xorg-conf-file-create-on-ubuntu-9-10/ [15:58] BluesKaj: :) think i have seen taht one before [16:00] James147, my linux bookmarks list needs editing , bigtime :) [16:01] * James147 needs to start bookmarking things... [16:01] BluesKaj: if you have any useful ones you mind pming me them? [16:02] Hello, I have had numerous problems since upgrading from 9 to 10. Tried suggestion of creating new user. This seems to have fixed most of my problems including one with X/nVidia. So thanks; particularly james147. [16:03] Wardgom: that means its a problem with the config files in your home directory, you should beabel to find and delete the right ones should fix the problems for that user :) [16:05] James147, is there a way to force re-do of most standard configs? [16:07] Wardgom: configs are stored in hidden files in your home, .kde stops most of kde settngs, deleteing that will reset kde to its defaults, .local is another big one and .config [16:08] Wardgom: I would look at the hidden files and delete te ones you dont care about (however, i would keep .bashrc, thats an importnat one [16:08] James147: Sofar so good. I murdered a bunch of kwin files, including 2 session files. [16:08] ahh, my systems beeping :S [16:09] James147, understood, delete with care. Thanks :) [16:09] James147, scratch that, I'll RENAME with care. [16:09] James147, that's my unedited list [16:10] BluesKaj: thank you [16:10] Wardgom: yeah :) rename (or move... if your doing that many files i would move them to something link ~/backup [16:10] Wardgom: that way you can move them back without having to remeber what they where called [16:11] James147: Godd idea! [16:11] James147: Good idea! [16:11] James147, you may need to edit , some sites are out of date [16:12] BluesKaj: :) [16:15] James147: I have bacups of the files in question.... Worth reporting a bug or not? [16:15] I just installed kubuntu 10.04 64-bit. How can I get flash to work for konqueror (i do not want to use firefox)? [16:16] Alexia_Death: not sure... kde has gotten better at updating its config files and the older kde version aret inuse as much any more (or at least I hope they arnt ) [16:17] Alexia_Death: thanks for the help @ grub reinstall some mins ago :) [16:17] ayush: "sudo aptitude install flashplugin-installer" should make it work... restart the browsers and if it still doesnt look in the plugin settings in konw [16:17] konq [16:17] James147: I have whatever is default in lucid... It's one major version behund I think:) [16:17] eMyller: got it solved? Welcome:) [16:18] yeah. :) [16:18] Alexia_Death: 4.4.2 is default in lucid, upgrading to 4.5 dosnt have as many config problems [16:18] Alexia_Death: i dd'ed my system partition to a bkp one; did it mess with anything? [16:19] bkp means backup? [16:19] (I recomend you upgrade... kde 4.5 i find is allot more responive/polished :) .. although there is still room for improvment) [16:19] yes [16:20] A whole new drive or just a partition of greater than or equal size? [16:20] alright thanks James147 [16:21] in general dd-ing anything less than whole drives takes a lot of carefult thought. [16:21] Alexia_Death: equal size; i just want to keep a copy of my working system partition to restore in case i mess it up with a new kernel, xorg drivers, etc [16:21] in gnome+compiz, there's a feature where it shows you all your desktops. and then you can drag and drop windows from one desktop to another. is there something similar for kwin? [16:21] ayush: i belive so [16:22] eMyller: tarred rsync backup might serve better for this usecase. [16:22] James147: I can't seem to find it. what is it called? [16:22] Alexia_Death: "sync" doesn't sound good in this case... i want a snapshot thing [16:22] ayush: in desktop effects "Desktop grid" [16:22] a simple dd sounded sufficient [16:23] (ctrl+f8 by default) [16:23] eMyller: dd is more than a little bit dangerous. rsync is a fancy bacup copier that can store remissions and all. [16:23] premissions* [16:23] Русские естЬ? [16:23] Alexia_Death: coolio, gonna check it out. :) [16:23] thanks. [16:23] :) [16:24] btw, is anyone here running kubuntu on a ck-patched kernel? [16:24] РУсских нету (( [16:24] `ru @ irbis [16:24] ?? [16:24] * eMyller forgot about language messages [16:24] guys do some repos have vmware player? [16:25] or does one gotta go to vmware. [16:25] to find the installation media? [16:27] Hi everybody I'm from Russia who does what can help a couple of questions to ask? [16:27] irbis: I can understand a little bit, but not too much. [16:28] I need to understand how to make a 3D cube [16:28] If good documentation on Linux [16:29] !ru [16:29] Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке / Pozhalujsta posetite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke [16:29] damnit. Its bork again. [16:30] I printsepe already dismantled it all but I need to delve deeper to understand dokontsa but without documentation I'm afraid not get along [16:30] Possible and in English if you can link [16:31] !ru [16:31] Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке / Pozhalujsta posetite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke [16:32] when I switch from desktop 1 to desktop 2, it still has the windows of desktop 1 in the taskbar. is that the way it is in KDE or can it be changed? [16:33] ayush: taskbar settings [16:33] you can configure it to ony show current desktop [16:35] Alexia_Death: thanks [16:44] murdered all my sessoin files this time [16:45] and it stoped again... [16:45] did you regen xorg.conf , Alexia_Death ? [16:46] or reconfig [16:46] No. It only has nvidia configuration anyway [16:46] Im getting random left clicks in this messed up state too [16:46] ok, so your touchpad isn't listed as adevice [16:47] not in config [16:47] xintput test shows me that for X side the device is working fine [16:47] xinput* [16:47] Alexia_Death, may i make a suggestion , use a separate usb mouse [16:48] BluesKaj: I am doing it. The same problem [16:48] one of the first things I tried. [16:48] I hate touchpads [16:48] ok ..seems weird [16:49] Alexia_Death: it worked as it should in a new user right? [16:49] yes [16:50] It also worked in lock screen and kdm. [16:50] Alexia_Death: I would try renaming ~/.kde and see if it still happens... then delete the newly generated one and and rename it back... that will tell you if the problem file is inside ~/.kde or not === robertscomp is now known as kungpo2 [16:51] Alexia_Death: then try the same with ~/.local and ~/.config [16:51] (assuming renaming .kde dident work) [16:56] Urk... all my application setings went with the rename:P [16:58] Good morning, the other day I somehow lost the icon to view my current clipboard contents. Later I learned how to use ctl-alt-v but before that I installed glipper to bring it back. It didn't work so I removed it. Mysteriously my kde desktop disappeared and now I seem to be running a gnome or ubuntu desktop. This works ok but I want my kde desktop back especially the clipboard icon. Yesterday I grabbed a new kubuntu 10.04, LTS, [16:58] amd-64 live cd iso image but I was unable to re-install. It kept hanging on the scan-disk portion or the install process, at precisely the 47% point again and again. Today I visited the link in the channel topic: http://kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-45. I added the ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports line to my source.list and after an update I'm ready to install a bunch of new stuff. Will this re-enable my kde desktop? Has anyone had any [16:58] similar experience? [16:58] pulaski: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [16:59] Alexia_Death: they would, thats way I said rename it back :) it just to see if the problem is inside ~/.kde [16:59] URK. [16:59] I found the problem. Not software at all. [17:00] Hardware failure. [17:01] pulaski: if you want kubuntu back install "kubuntu-desktop" that will install everything kubuntu needs [17:01] Left click in my touchpad is getting stuck in... [17:01] * James147 wonders why it worked on a new user tehn... Alexia_Death [17:01] random chance i take it? [17:01] Hmmm... no, not really... [17:02] Or maybe just so. [17:02] James147: Thanks for responding. I'll try "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop". [17:03] pulaski: once kubuntu-desktop is installed you should be able to pick kde or gnome from the login manager (there should be a button to bring up the list) also that ppa will update kde to version 4.5.1, if you try to install/update kubuntu-desktop (not a bad thing, i recomend it infact but you dont need it to get kde back)) [17:03] Hmm... [17:03] but symptoms are exactly right. [17:04] If the left click is stuck on, I can do almost anything exapt click for focus... [17:05] James147: Thanks again. I'm ready to go. I'll put off ugrading kde to version 4.5.1 until after I install "kubuntu-desktop". [17:05] Alexia_Death: hmm check the settings at System settings > Window behaviour > window behaviour > Window Actions ((note sure where it is on kde 4.4) [17:06] I appreciate the help, cya ... [17:07] (alt+f2: "window behaviour" > window actions should also get you there) [17:08] <|Alexia_Death|> Thanks guys, and sorry for being a bother. It seems my mystery is solved:) [17:12] привет всем. кто тут есть живой? [17:12] !ru | erendgen [17:12] erendgen: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке / Pozhalujsta posetite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke [17:19]