[00:00] is /etc/resolv.conf properly set to a DNS server? [00:00] Also how do I go about enabling free/non-free...? I really need to use the official Debian bluez-firmware package to keep my BCM2045's Firmware up to date... [00:00] I also tried first setting static information for my network address which did not help [00:00] so not a DHCP issue [00:00] maybe the mix of Beta 1 & updates coming through on the install screwed with something [00:00] I have also heard people talking about my ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4650 needing Firmware installed in order to work correctly... [00:00] oh and web pages will not load but good fires up nicely after a search is hangs and never returns other webpages [00:00] craig: we don't support installing debian packages in ubuntu, and ubuntu doesn't have a bluez-firmware package [00:00] *good = google [00:01] any way to install 10.10 without cd rom drive? :/ [00:01] i'm out of ideas [00:01] unetbootin won't work [00:02] usb-creator ? [00:02] Well: I insist on using KDE & the only other up to date KDE4 distros like Fedora Core 13 & Sidux have issues with this particular PC laptop... [00:03] I'm not too happy about the Debian Gnome agenda of theirs to be perfectly honest... [00:03] Hello guys , is there any kernel bug lately .. i have a serious issue . [00:06] I would love to try LFS or even Gentoo but their how-tos don't cover AMD64 in the case of LFS or Open64 in the case of Gentoo... [00:26] yofel: is that available for non-ubuntu-systems? [00:26] whey it works [00:26] xD [00:26] usb-creator [00:26] "Installation failed." [00:26] o ok [00:26] yofel: it won't work. it tells me it can't install the bootloader. :/ [00:26] o.O [00:26] i'm not using ubuntu, maybe its because of that? [00:26] it also doesn't display an error message. [00:26] well, you could setup a boot stick manually by using something like https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Dev/MultipleISOBootUSBKey [00:26] okay thanks, gonna try that :] [00:26] Does anyone know if the new kernel in maverick fixes the issue with ATI 5750 cards and the proprietary fglrx driver [00:26] ? === billybigrigger_ is now known as billybigrigger [00:29] ntie [00:29] *nite [00:30] gn [00:30] good night [00:31] i'll also leave now, thanks for your help [00:31] bye [00:34] anybody running 10.10 netbook remix? [00:36] right, my epxirience with new ubuntu-netbook was bit halted by fact that my wifi is BMC broadcom [00:36] and by fact that Alt-F2 is not present [00:36] ah. [00:37] other than that, how was the improvement over 9.04 or 9.10 [00:38] now will try kubuntu-netbook, it looks good, running live version so hardto tell about speed [00:39] which version of kubuntu? [00:39] like mac-style menu in the panel [00:39] kubuntu-netbook 10.10 [00:40] hmm. i'm gonna try out ubuntu-netbook 10.10 first, cause I already downloaded it and mounted it to the usb. [00:41] except this stupid netbook won't let me boot to usb [00:41] hi, there seems to be memory leak with deluge 1.3.0 and libtorrent-rasterbar 0.15.3 [00:42] bios? some, like eee have special menu-swith for hd usb boot [00:46] i'm gonna try and change the bios again. [00:46] i already tried it on one netbook, and gave up with that one for a while. so i'm trying on another now. [00:51] still no luck even after changing the bios. [00:52] freezes when trying to boot with a USB in. [00:53] any USB, or a Live USB disk? [00:53] I believe just a live USB disk [00:54] i had some issues trying to boot a live disk as well. [00:54] *usb [00:54] any solutions? [00:54] ended up finally just burning the CD... i think part of the prob might be my thumb drive. [00:54] no CD drive on a netbook though... [00:54] external CD drive? [00:55] actually..lol, i had an IDE hard drive in an enclosure, and i took an old IDE CD drive I had laying around. [00:55] burned the CD on my desktop, and then boot it like a USB device. [00:55] so yeah, external CD rom. [00:55] the jerry rigged way [00:56] GA_Bull: Can you pastebin the output of "sudo dd if=/dev/sdX count=1 | od -x" where "X" is replaced with the correct letter for your drive? [00:57] I can try, still trying to boot it on the netbook, bout to just burn to cd. [00:57] one sec. [01:00] the new installer is killer... they did a great job on it.; [01:01] If i could get that far. haha [01:01] lol [01:01] the installer for 10.10 desktop edition was pretty nice. [01:01] roughly when in october is mav gonna be out? [01:01] that's what i'm running on my Toshiba Laptop now. [01:01] yeah, thats what i was talking about. [01:01] ah yea. it was great. fast too. [01:01] Spaztic_One, if the past is anyy indication, probably towards the end of the month. [01:01] i like how you can update your system, during the install.. so after the first boot, you don't have 25min of updating to do. [01:02] Ah, kk. Also, I've only been using ubuntu for a little less than a year. I started with Karmic [01:02] Spaztic_One, they've shocked us before, but usually it's pretty close to the end of the month [01:02] Ken: Yea. Overall a great process. the boot time for maverick is pretty freakin awesome too [01:02] Alrighty, thanks. [01:02] !schedule | Spaztic_One [01:02] Spaztic_One: A schedule of Maverick Meerkat (10.10) release milestones can be found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MaverickReleaseSchedule [01:02] yup GA_Bull it is [01:02] how can I take a screenshot without the dialogue popping up? [01:03] WXZ: go to the Applications Menu > Accessories > Take Screenshot [01:03] w/o what dialog popping up? [01:03] needs to be a button [01:04] what? that tool basically does everything for you, no dialog. [01:04] and even with that dialogue pops up [01:04] what dialogue? [01:04] i admit, i don't understand the question. [01:04] what dialogue are you talking about? [01:04] the dialogue called "take screenshot" [01:04] you know when you press screenshot [01:04] a window pops up called "save screenshot" [01:04] yeah..... [01:04] I don't want that window to pop up [01:04] yes, after it has taken the screenshot [01:05] it does that after the screenshot, so you can name it and choose where to save it [01:05] it has already taken it by the time the save screenshot dialogue shows up. [01:05] I know Ken8521 [01:05] I don't want it to do that though [01:05] Then how would it save? [01:05] I want to open up an image editor later and paste it manually [01:05] WXZ, not saying it cant be done, but i'm not sure how. [01:06] ok [01:06] when was the last time you guys used windows? [01:06] This morning. [01:06] ok, lol [01:06] WXZ, only to update my zune. [01:06] lol [01:06] and i do that about once a month. [01:06] quite a while ago, but I think the problem here is that Xorg doesn't take a screenshot when pressing 'PrintScr' by itself [01:07] maybe I'm wrong but I haven't seen it do that yet [01:07] yofel, if i hit print screen, the dialog box comes up.. i can choose to save it, or copy to clipboard.. then i assume i could open a photo editor and 'paste' it there [01:08] I want it to copy to clipboard automatically [01:08] Ken8521: right, but just pressing 'PrintScr' won't automatically copy the screenshot to the xclipboard, thus we need an app for it [01:08] yofel, hmm,i guess.... i just never viewed the dialog box as that big of a deal [01:09] * yofel neither [01:09] actually I like ksnapshot [01:09] yofel, that's one of the very very very very very very very few kde apps i like [01:09] lol [01:09] heh [01:09] i finally got vnc working on all my machines [01:10] i am so thrilled about that [01:10] I'll be back, can't find my external CD Drive [01:10] GA_Bull, so how you gonna do that/ [01:12] What? [01:12] how are you gonna boot a cd, if you don't have an external cd drive? [01:12] I went to find it, with no success. i was hoping to find it. [01:12] unetbootin? [01:12] Ken8521, ^ [01:13] oh [01:13] iConfused, i think unetbootin is causing his issue. [01:13] What? [01:13] hmm, maybe not [01:13] lol [01:13] !unetbootin [01:13] For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent [01:13] you could try setting up the drive w/ unetbootin [01:13] Ah. Sorry... zoned out... still working on it. [01:13] one sec. [01:13] i'm gonna mount it to a different USB and try it. [01:13] but i don't think unetbootin writes .IMG files... which i think is what you're trying to write [01:14] Ken8521, I have no idea what the issue is, as I just logged on ^^" [01:15] no big deal [01:15] But unetbootin does .IMG, if I'm not mistaken [01:15] he seems to have more issues than a news stand right now... [01:15] iConfused, .. are you sure? i thought only ISO [01:15] All I am doing right now is taking the raw .iso file for 10.10 netbook and mount it to a usb, and boot that on the netbook, and install. [01:15] Ken8521, I believe it has a dropdown for filetype [01:16] Oh, maybe not [01:16] ^^" [01:16] GA_Bull, have you tried unetbootin?.... [01:16] just for clarification [01:16] Not yet, I'll try that next. [01:16] Unetbootin is amazing for making bootable USB drives :3 [01:16] yes it is [01:16] You need a little extra set up to make it persistent, however [01:17] i am seriously digging vnc though. [01:17] I'll try it next. [01:17] iConfused, if you read the current bugs... setting up thumb drives w/ persistence will not work. [01:17] live disk only, they should work [01:17] How many comps you running vnc on Ken? [01:18] Ken8521, I made one, you need to make a casper-rw, and change a line of text on one of the files at the root of the drive [01:18] oh ok. [01:18] My only issue is not being able to remove the live-disc user or whatever [01:18] -.- [01:18] GA_Bull, well, right now.. I'm ono my laptop, and i VNC'd into my desktop, and then used my desktop to VNC into another machine on my network [01:18] But I use this drive every day at school. It's nice. [01:19] you run a live disk at school? [01:19] like on your own system? [01:19] or the schools? [01:19] GA_Bull, I run off of a usb drive with a persistent file system on the school's computers [01:20] Nice. I did that for a while... but now I just bring my [01:20] It's nice, and the person in charge just asked if I didn't like windows [01:20] Laptop.. [01:20] Laptops [01:20] Ran BackTrack4 on my Laptop for a while. [01:20] got tired of dealing with the ridiculous boot sequence. [01:20] *Laptops aren't allowed in my high school :/ [01:20] and just put it on a USB. and I quit High School early and wen't straight to College :P [01:21] (Or at least, the students aren't allowed to have them) [01:22] I LOVE backtrack4 though. [01:22] just upgraded to that from bt2... great improvment. [01:22] I've never used backtrack, actually [01:22] heard it was nifty, though [01:22] My only dissapointment is how much easier they are making hacking... it's to the point where you don't even need to know code. [01:22] Also, anyone else in love with pithos? :) [01:23] * iConfused needs to learn java or something (ANDROID IS THE FUTURE, PEOPLE *twitches) [01:24] YAY! it was the USB disk, it's working off this other one. [01:24] Wewt :) [01:25] beyond happy right now. [01:25] This is the second time I'm getting completely rid of Windows on ALL of my personal computers. [01:25] I'm at someone's place [01:25] Except for the one i'm loaning a friend right now. [01:25] They're watching Faux news [01:25] the stupid... it burns >.< [01:26] the new installer is Kick A** [01:26] It's lovely, ain't it? [01:26] GA_Bull, it really is. [01:26] GA_Bull, other than having Windows in a Vbox for my Zune... I'm free. [01:26] i don't see Zune support coming to Linux anytime soon [01:27] I don't see *official* zune support coming to linux atleast. [01:27] And I completely removed windows on accident, I meant to leave a dell recovery partition, but I wiped it out as well [01:27] yeah, something tells me Microsoft would view that as against their goals of world domination [01:27] So I grabbed a fedora cd I had lying around, and I've been linux-only ever since [01:28] But compiz and full screen flash video didn't play together (I stream most shows I watch, so this is vital) well on fedora, so I went to ubuntu 10.04 [01:29] And then I was like YAYBETA<3 [01:29] hmm. [01:29] Yea, on another note though... I am proud of apple, they finally allowed the Google Voice app on iPhone. [01:30] lol [01:30] That was under major pressure. [01:30] Apple is the same old fascist it ever was. [01:30] Google is gonna take over the world... be ready for it [01:30] Daekdroom: Yea... true. but still. [01:30] I'm proud of apple, some of their devices are capable of running android [01:30] And Ken. definitely the ridiculous amounts of services they are pumping out right now is insane. [01:31] they're bout to release GoogleTV to compete with iTV [01:31] I love Google services. So. Much. [01:31] Can't wait until wave-in-a-box is released [01:32] I have wave. never used it really. nobody else I know has it haha. [01:32] Hehehe, yeah, it finally went open [01:32] I'm glad it bombed. [01:32] but google's killing it [01:32] Same thing for GTalk. [01:32] and I'm sad [01:32] They can't have it all. [01:32] Daekdroom, GTalk is a really nice jabber service :/ [01:33] This is true. so I just accidentally minimized the installer and can't get it back! [01:33] Oh nooooooo... [01:33] Got it back. [01:33] whew. [01:33] I'mma run wave on my site, methinks [01:33] Google Talk is good. [01:33] (once they, you know, release Wave-in-a-Box) [01:34] i actually really like Skype to... I wish Skype's Linux support was a little better [01:34] I prefer xmpp.jp [01:34] but even the old version that we're stuck w/.. isn't to bad [01:34] I got @xmpp.jp [01:34] which is really awesome [01:34] I love skype. And yea, the linux version isn't horrible... it's not playing well with maverick thogh. [01:34] And ooh, random question [01:35] GA_Bull, you know what i like bout the installer, how it asks you if you want to insall the non-free codecs at the beginning. [01:35] Pidgin and Empathy. Discuss. [01:35] it's like "Well, everyone installs them anyway.. so why not" [01:35] iConfused, empathy sucks... Pidgin is great... discussion over [01:35] lol [01:35] Haha yea... i got tired before of always having to dig through codecs to get them all, so this is nice. [01:35] Yeah, pidgin's been much better for me [01:35] and I agree. Empathy sucks. [01:35] even though that's what I'm on now. [01:35] Why on earth did they switch? [01:36] empathy is the first thing that gets uninstalled on any new box i set up.... that and brasero. [01:36] again, it's what 10.10 puts in the "me" menu. [01:36] Empathy is also ugly as hell :/ [01:36] yup. [01:36] I don't use gnome-panel [01:36] Docky+GNOME-Do works well for me [01:36] iConfused, i think they switched, because the pidgin team was dragging their feet on video support, but i could be wrong.... or maybe it's because Empathy was the actual Gnome message app [01:36] What panel you running, I run a combo of the new gnome - panel cause it looks good... and a Cairo dock. [01:37] Cairo? I might look that up [01:37] But i've always been a fan of docky [01:37] It's the one that's supposed to look like a Mac OSX dock. [01:37] i like it, it's convinent. [01:37] THEY NEED A GNOME-MENU PLUGIN THOUGH ;~; [01:37] like, srsly. [01:38] I'm beginning to love this installer less... I can't change the window size, it's stuck on "retrieving file 2 of 6" and I can't see what the terminal is doing. [01:39] http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j263/IndyGunFreak/laptop.jpg [01:39] GA_Bull: ctrl-alt-f1 to the rescue? [01:39] it's still running 10.04 though [01:40] hopefully it's not gonna freak out now. [01:40] we'll see. [01:41] you know it's amazing that vnc is free [01:41] Ok, starting the installer over... sigh. [01:41] Ken8521, I can VNC into my phone :3 [01:41] what'd you screw up? [01:41] iConfused, iphones.. i admit i don't get it [01:41] i have a cell phone. that only makes phone calls. [01:41] Ken8521, It's not an iPhone [01:41] lawl [01:41] lol [01:42] It just got stuck... and the window size isn't correct, and won't let me change it... [01:42] droid? [01:42] and It got stuck on file 2 of 6. [01:42] and i couldn't see the terminal. [01:42] Ken8521, HTC Hero CDMA. Android device yes, MotoDroid, no. [01:42] iConfused: The freedesktop.org menu specification _sucks_, it's a PITA to implement [01:42] iConfused: And the gnome-menus library that does implement it is almost as painful as implementing it yourself [01:42] Trust me, I've got code in gnome-menus and code that uses it :P [01:43] Amaranth, I just want to be able to pull up my apps so that I don't have to go open gnome-panel [01:43] when is ubuntu gonna make the switch to gnome 3.0? [01:43] I dun liek gnome-panel [01:43] i actually though it was gonna be maverick [01:43] iConfused: That's what gnome-do is for [01:43] Ken8521: Never is the current ETA [01:43] lol [01:43] Ken8521: And GNOME 3.0 doesn't exist yet [01:43] just fine w/ me [01:43] really? [01:43] you can google screenshots of it [01:43] Really, maybe in 6 more months [01:44] Amaranth, True. [01:44] http://www.tux-planet.fr/public/images/screenshots/gnome-mockup/gnome-mockup-12.jpg [01:45] i'm not sure if i like that or not... [01:45] Ken8521: If anything Ubuntu will probably use the gnome 3.0 stack but not gnome-shell for the foreseeable future [01:45] Ken8521, those aren't screenshots. They're called mockups for a reason [01:45] Oh my god. this netbook. [01:45] ah, i just noticed that [01:45] Ken8521: That's a really old silly mockups [01:45] gotcha [01:45] It's nothing like that now [01:46] I'd hate to have that foot logo right there, it's slightly ugly 0~o [01:47] Ken8521: http://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/Screenshots [01:47] not bad [01:47] i like gnome 2.3 though... so i don't see all the hubbub that it needs updated [01:48] i could've swore i read somewhere that 3.0 was going to be on ubuntu maverick. [01:48] must have been wishful thinking [01:48] Why is valve so evil? If they ported source and steam to linux, they'd get a bunch of users, and a bunch of existing users would go linux, methinks [01:49] Maybe natty? ;x [01:49] you'd think that they would already have openoffice on the netbook remix. [01:49] iConfused: Valve disagrees, as do most other games publishers [01:49] I love how define:natty pulls up dapper on google [01:50] kklimonda, how the heck would it hurt them, it's not like I'm demanding they open the source [01:50] just... A port would be... nice :/ [01:50] GA_Bull, they don't? [01:50] thats strange [01:50] iConfused: supporting a new platform costs money [01:51] I suppose I should just try harder with WINE.... [01:51] * iConfused sighs [01:51] nevermind they do. [01:51] this mnu system is confusing as mess. [01:51] lol [01:51] menu. [01:51] GA_Bull, i always put normal gnome on my netbook. [01:51] i hate the netbook remix gui [01:51] I sorta like unity :/ [01:52] I actually like the new gui for netbook remix. [01:52] All I really use my netbook for is to sit on facebook during class hahaha. [01:52] that's unity, my friend [01:52] What is a good time after the release of a new version to upgrade? Day of? day after? week after? [01:53] I know it is. [01:53] I want a netbook, lugging around this desktop replacement is annoying :/ [01:53] I just found it easier to type. gui. [01:53] I have two identical netbooks. [01:54] But I'd rather pick up a phone with a competent processor (like, a snapdragon or something) [01:55] Can anybody think of a way to sync Evolution Calendar with Google Calendar? [01:55] Not sure, I usually stay away from evolution [01:56] same here [01:56] Gmail's web interface is great [01:56] (And my email is through Google Apps, so...) [01:56] I'd rather just be able to use an application... only reason I asked. haha. [01:57] I do love the web interface. but if at all possible, I like having things on applications. [01:57] I have some troubles with getting my wireless to work at boot time. I can see the router from iwlist and connect with network-manager applet. but i would prefer if it worked from boot. [01:57] GA_Bull: dunno about Evolution but I know Thunderbird+Songbird can do it. [01:57] judgen: is it set to an AUTO connect? [01:57] Songbird... It will be missed [01:57] I'll have to check it, never really tried either of those. [01:57] I installed 2.6.35-19 on Lucid (see launchpad bug #131094), and now I get a bunch of kernel errors regarding AppArmor userspace utilities needing to be upgraded. Will I be fighting a never ending battle, fixing each little issue, until I upgrade to Maverick? [01:57] Launchpad bug 131094 in linux (Ubuntu) "Heavy Disk I/O harms desktop responsiveness" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/131094 [01:58] (they killed that project with the whole *WE WON'T SUPPORT LINUX NO MORE* thing) [01:58] I've finally moved on... Rhythmbox isn't that bad [01:59] And it screws with my pidgin status for me [01:59] which is nice [01:59] GA_Bull, I am not sure, i just have iface wlan0 inet dhcp, wireless-essid "NETGEAR", auto wlan0 in that part of ny /etc/network/interfaces [02:00] pull up network manager applet. [02:00] sorry. not applet. just network manager [02:00] GA_Bull, When i run in terminal mode i can not use the applet, that is why i want it at boot. not after login. [02:00] one sec, i was going to show you, but mine just disappeared. [02:03] ugh. this is rather annoying. [02:03] ok when you open Network Connections, and click on the Wireless tab, it should say Auto "your networks ssid" [02:03] for instance it may say Auto NETGEAR [02:05] judgen, are you on the GUI now? [02:05] Ken8521, currently yes... since that is the only way i can get wireless atm. [02:05] I really want it to work in terminal. [02:05] Crap. sorry, didn't read that you were in terminal mode. [02:05] I can't remember how to do that. Ken? [02:06] judgen, is wireless set to connect on boot? [02:07] Ken8521, it has been a while, where should this info be included if not in /etc/network/interfaces? [02:07] judgen, i always use the GUI, but the GUI tool is simply going to modify it... [02:07] judgen, right click network manager and choose edit connections [02:08] then wo things... 1. On the wireless tab, highlight your wireless connection, choose "Edit"... and make sure "connect automatically" and "available to all users" is checked. [02:08] hey theres some updates in updatemanager that wont install as well they wont install in synaptic. any ideas? [02:09] also, on the "wired" tab.. highlight your eth0 connection, click "edit" and uncheck "connect automatically". [02:09] What do you mean won't install? [02:09] What is it specifically telling you? [02:09] Ken8521, ok now that i have done that, should the wireless work in CLI too now? [02:09] what i've found, on my laptop... is when i boot up.. it will spend a minute looking for the wired connection, then ove to the wireless.. if i disable connecting automatically.. it won't look at the wired connection [02:10] judgen, .. i would think so... cuz all that does, is change the network interfaces setting. [02:10] ok ill try [02:10] brb [02:10] I think this netbook install is broken again. [02:10] judgen, did you get that second part? [02:10] about disabling the auto connect of your wired connection? [02:10] yup [02:10] ok [02:11] cuz i had that problem as well, and thought my wirelss wasn't working, but then it would mysteriously start working about 2min after boot up [02:11] Ken, judgen disconnected. [02:11] yeah, he disconnected in the middle of that, so i just finished typing it. [02:11]