[01:22] popey: do you know this guy? http://ubuntu.stackexchange.com/users/449 [01:22] personally I mean [02:47] AlanBell: oh, yes [03:13] yay for getting rickrolled [03:23] JFo: gosh! Nice pictures from prague. From the sprint time? [03:28] JFo lives! WOW! [03:29] nigelb, yep [03:30] akgraner, nope [03:30] :) [03:30] akgraner: hahaha [03:30] still on Taiwan time [03:30] JFo, I know someone else having the same issues [03:30] I bet you do [04:09] AlanBell: that is pretty cool (the rupee pdf) [04:13] 5~/7 [04:13] ugh [04:54] jcastro, reminder sent to all session leaders for tomorrow :-) [05:31] night everyone :) [05:31] no paultag ! [05:31] cjohnston, so help me god if you try and make me stay, just assign the bug to me and I'll get to it tom. night :) [05:32] lol [05:32] :) [05:32] night cjohnston :) [05:32] I just didnt wanna be here by myself [05:32] haha, oh you! [05:32] /away [05:32] cjohnston: You are never alone ;) [05:32] nhandler: ! [05:33] I actually do need to talk to you [07:16] good morning all! [07:17] morning? i havent even made it to bed :-P [07:22] g [07:22] g'nite [07:30] jcastro: I only know that guy through ubuntu-uk [07:31] morning all === Mamarok_ is now known as Mamarok [08:07] Morning ubuntians [08:15] alloha [08:25] good morning all [10:27] morning all [10:28] hi duanedesign === ara_ is now known as ara === jorge_ is now known as jcastro_ === jcastro_ is now known as jcastro [15:04] popey, someone just asked me about houseparty.cx [15:04] was that yours? [15:05] jcastro: howdy [15:05] hi! [15:06] it is [15:07] it appears to be down [15:07] anyway, the guy complaining (smoser), tells me that the map was much easier to browse around than say: http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/global/326/detail/ [15:08] so I was thinking maybe there could be a map embedded in there or something [15:09] it expired on 5th of this month, i figured as it wasn't used for the last release, and I only made it as a spoof of the windows 7 house party things, and that you guys had made the loco directory, it was somewhat redundant [15:09] so i didnt renew [15:10] ok I'll have him file a bug on loco dir [15:10] i can renew it, but seems pointless if all you want is the map [15:10] popey, it's nice to know someone missed it! [15:10] :) [15:10] nah, let's just fix l-d [15:10] jcastro: tis fairly easier to see the teams taking part as they are under their area and a simple Find locates the team. But there could be a bug filed on maps under the LD already I can't rememner [15:10] yeah, he knows how to use lp so he'll go sort it [15:11] maybe there can be some kind of overall view that puts each loco logo on a map so people can do awesome things with it or something [15:11] jcastro: https://bugs.launchpad.net/loco-directory/+bug/570613 [15:11] either way, wishlist territory [15:11] Launchpad bug 570613 in loco-directory "Show map of events (affects: 1) (heat: 4)" [High,Triaged] [15:12] jcastro: the bug is there, there is just nobody working on it at present [15:13] nod [15:23] randa: hiya, did you get the Gnome A11y ship-it stuff? [15:25] ugh [15:25] speaking of [15:25] we've not started talking about release parties yet have we [15:25] akgraner: You there? [15:26] ;] [15:26] Folks, do you know whether Friday's Telepathy session will happen? [15:26] jcastro: erm. most locos I know have actually have started talking about them :P [15:26] If possible I'd like to move my Ruby talk to Friday. [15:27] I've not heard anything from the telepathy guys [15:27] feel free to snag their slot [15:27] I have some unscheduled extra work from my day work to during my Window on Thu :< [15:27] Pendulum, yeah I know but usually we have like a post kicking it off, etc. [15:28] jcastro: aye I did one a while back [15:28] jcastro: Right. I will move myself then ... [15:28] perhaps we could do a few more this week to push it home [15:28] matti, leave your existing slot empty [15:28] czajkowski: yeah, I thought someone had done one [15:28] and maybe someone will grab it [15:28] if not then we can do a break or something [15:28] only 15 teams signed up [15:29] jcastro: aye, they have a month to do it, as some of them actually wait till they get the CD's [15:29] for release parties [15:29] jcastro: if you do a short post today I'll do one tomorrow ? [15:29] I just tweeted [15:29] or vice versa depending on your time ? [15:29] right [15:29] oh I know t [15:29] the facebook group [15:29] jcastro: No problem. [15:29] it has like thousands [15:29] jcastro: Apologies for that :< [15:29] matti, rock and roll! [15:30] no need to apologize, you're the one bringing value to the event! [15:30] jcastro: ahh good stuff, I dont really pay much heed to FB groups but I know some do [15:30] yeah, we'll have jono do that [15:30] poking the list and a few blogs outta be enough [15:31] aye [15:31] jcastro: I cannot edit Timetable :/ [15:31] oh, I'll do it [15:31] jcastro: Thanks! I appreciate that :) [15:32] which is your session? [15:33] oh, found it [15:35] ok [15:35] so our thursday isn't looking so hot [15:36] matti, any help finding someone for thursday would be appreciated! [15:36] hm, when does crew get updated? [15:36] i.e. at least the list of selected crew get out... [15:36] when the list of attendees is finalized [15:37] ah, ok [15:37] if you're sponsored you'll probably be on it [15:37] 'crew'? [15:37] \o/ [15:37] JFo: the guys supposed to follow you around and proclaim your awesomeness :p [15:37] hi jfo [15:37] how was wherever you went? [15:37] hah [15:37] hey jcastro :) Taipei was awesome [15:37] JFo: journey sounded bonkers [15:37] I think really all crew is doing now is the sign switching right? [15:37] tons of hardware folks there [15:37] czajkowski, ? [15:37] nigelb: get a visa yet? [15:38] JFo, did you go to tapei 101? [15:38] jcastro: bonkers/crazy [15:38] czajkowski, yeah the journey sucked [15:38] jcastro, yeah [15:38] jcastro: I follow JFo tweets, it sounded mad the travelling [15:38] is the office awesome? [15:38] got some pics on my FB [15:38] jcastro, it is rather smallish [15:38] jcastro, I removed it from the Calendar as well so classbot doesn't announce the session and dent/tweet it [15:38] but yeah 46th floor [15:38] JFo: whoa 46th floor must be awesome [15:38] ok [15:39] JFo: did ya get kicked on the flight? [15:39] so the goal today for everyone is to try to fill out thursday. And while you're at it finding people for openweek would be a bonus [15:39] nigelb, it was great. so was the 91st floor observation deck [15:39] * nigelb saw pete talking about getting kicked by kids [15:39] a 2 hour break is kind of pushing it. :-/ [15:39] nigelb, yeah, silly kids [15:39] akgraner: I found one person for UOW for you! Did ya see? [15:39] hmm, we used to put group efforts in the topic === jcastro changed the topic of #ubuntu-community-team to: Hi [15:39] ok, so that works. :p [15:39] lol === jcastro changed the topic of #ubuntu-community-team to: Things to work on: AppDeveloperWeek, OpenWeek Call for Speakers, Get LoCo teams to sign up for release parties [15:40] what else? [15:40] nigelb, did you email me? or just add it? if emailed I just haven't read it - and if you just added it I haven't looked today :-/ [15:40] didn't pitti move the charts somewhere? [15:40] akgraner: the person who added it must've mailed you [15:41] ok, new rule, we'll keep whatever "campaigns" we're working on in the topic in order of priority [15:41] so we don't get lost and confused [15:41] +1 [15:42] nigelb, ok I'll look - I know Dustin emailed me about his session === jcastro changed the topic of #ubuntu-community-team to: Work Items: http://bit.ly/coZgIY || Things to work on (in order): AppDeveloperWeek, OpenWeek Call for Speakers, Release Parties [15:42] how's that, what am I missing? === jcastro changed the topic of #ubuntu-community-team to: Work Items: http://bit.ly/coZgIY || Things to work on (in order): AppDeveloperWeek, OpenWeek Call for Speakers, Release Parties, UDS Prep [15:42] yeah [15:42] you got the one I was about say [15:43] not that anyone reads the /topic [15:43] :) [15:44] haha [15:44] theres a topic? [15:45] hey, I read it [15:45] and if you don't then FINE POPEY [15:45] DONT BE A TEAM PLAYER [15:45] jk [15:45] Don't hate the player, hate the game. [15:46] But if you'd like to use the /topic of one channel as your personal to-do list, you go right ahead :) [15:46] topic ain't long enough for jcastro to do list I suspect [15:47] yeah [15:47] my UDS one is kind of huge for example [15:47] but I think having an overall "things we all work on" will help everyone. [15:47] for example, if someone right now wanted to do something they know we're focusing on app week [15:48] +1½ [15:49] jcastro: I add stuff to my google cal find it helps me work [15:49] and then pull in other cals also [15:49] I am totally going to use half votes during loco council meetings now just to see czajkowski explode [15:49] +½ [15:49] we could have calendars announce in here perhaps? [15:49] "START Release Party blah blah!" [15:49] hahahaha.....you all make me smile :-) [15:49] jcastro: like a bot [15:49] jcastro, I am adding you to the session today as a helper as well [15:50] popey: do the mins from last meeting buddy, or I'm cracking out the whip :) [15:50] bah [15:50] * czajkowski ticks off her to do list [15:50] :) [15:50] jcastro - I am about to drive to atlanta can introduce the sessions [15:50] lists work :) [15:50] sure [15:50] akgraner, you mean in 10 minutes! [15:50] I AM ON IT [15:50] yeppers [15:50] :-) [15:50] akgraner, Atlanta? [15:51] akgraner, can I get some voice action pls? [15:51] JFo, Grace Hopper Celebration - I'm helping Stormy at the Free Software booth and writing a couple articles on it as well [15:51] ah right [15:51] jcastro, working on that now [15:53] jcastro, there you go [15:54] say hi to stormy for me [15:54] will do [15:55] good afternoon [15:55] hi akgraner! [15:55] sense, hi! [15:58] kim0: for the interviews, its easier if you set a criteria and interview folks [15:58] Because we rarely have people come to us :) [15:59] we = Behind the Circle [16:01] will be a few mins [16:01] dpm, ^ [16:01] jono, no worries, speak to you in a bit then [16:07] dpm, all set [16:08] dpm, skype [16:08] jono, ok [16:23] nigelb: I am getting some responses and emailing the guys some questions [16:23] nigelb: the questions on jono's blog basically [17:36] kim0: on nice :) [17:48] jcastro: Is it a known bug that Summit doesn't act on changed Launchpad usernames? [17:49] sense: didnt you raise this bug against LD as well [17:49] it's a LP bug [17:49] czajkowski: Ah, yes. Is it? [17:49] Annoying. [17:50] I remember havibg this conversation with you before, you logged the bug [17:50] against the ld [17:50] Yes I did, but I thought it was a bug in the LD, not in Launchpad. [17:51] sense: find the bug and change it to LP and then ask in LP [17:51] czajkowski: OK, maybe that's the best approach indeed. Thanks! [17:51] np :) [17:53] czajkowski: The last comment in bug #625120 does seem to indicate otherwise, though. [17:53] Launchpad bug 625120 in loco-directory "Wrong Launchpad ID when changed "name" (affects: 3) (dups: 2) (heat: 24)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/625120 [17:54] sense: why not find that person in LP and tell them the same is happening on summit ? [17:55] I've opened a second task for Summit, this does look like an implementation error at the client side. [18:00] czajkowski: Also, a few days ago you asked me, before logging off, to ask you the next day about the confirmation of Ubuntu NL. It's a bit late, and I have to admit that I haven't been able to follow much lately, but here I am: ping [18:00] I haven't heard anyone talk about the reapproval in Ubuntu NL, nor seen any topic. [18:02] jcastro: Are the questions on the community report wiki page meant for beginners in the international community, or also for the new local community members? [18:04] sense: are you sub'd to LP dev list? [18:04] nigelb: Launchpad-dev? No [18:04] its aproblem with with the fact that lp doesn't have an ID thingy [18:04] sense: np [18:04] the uniquess etc is handled by login.launchpad.net which is a totally different service [18:05] sense, everyone who is a beginner and wants to start helping [18:05] jcastro: OK, thanks. [18:05] I think somone gave a solution to use an openid thiny for LD [18:05] sense: check the LD bug, there is a solution for this there [18:05] nigelb: But every account has got its own unique ID, which is the actual OpenID. [18:06] sense: yeah, were supposed to use the openID instead of LP ID that we do now [18:06] so when you change LP id, things start breaking [18:06] if you want to know how to do it, I can grep my logs and get back to you [18:06] somone did say on irc how to do it [18:06] nigelb: I've always thought that your username-as-OpenID is just a delegate for the real one. Isn't that true? [18:09] hold on [18:10] Pendulum, sneaking out for lunch, I'll be back in time for the changeover [18:10] and I am last today so I will handle that one too. :D [18:11] jcastro: have a good lunch. [18:12] czajkowski: But what is the status of Ubuntu NL right now? [18:12] czajkowski: We need a other meeting, according to ? :S [18:13] yup [18:13] pretty much really, they've had some time to think and work on things, [18:13] sense: if you look at source of launchpad.net/~nigelbabu, you'll see https://login.launchpad.net/+id/FEnb7sd => that is my unchangeable openID [18:13] so when we want unique identifiers, that id should be used instead of LP ID [18:13] (its only visible on launchpad.net, and not on edge) [18:14] * nigelb had some trouble getting "off" edge [18:15] czajkowski: Who are they? It is not clear to me, or clear to most people, who is responsble for the contact and how the preparations are carried out. Still Dennis and Sebastian? [18:15] nigelb: Yes indeed, and that is what the bug report against the LD is about. [18:15] looks like we need a similar bug for smmit [18:15] *summit [18:15] nigelb: I've opened a new task in the bug report for Summit. [18:16] ok, bed time for real before Pendulum kicks me off IRC :) [18:16] It's probably using a lot of the same code there, so i gifugred it would be appropriate. [18:16] nigelb: sleep well! :) [18:16] sense: It is appropriate, I think same team as well :) [18:16] IS? [18:17] nah, [18:17] Daviey, mhall, cjohns ton, etc [18:17] (the ubuntu website team folks) [18:17] sense: the NL team contacts. [18:17] nigelb: it'd be for your own good! [18:17] czajkowski: The two guys who frequent the forums the least. :) [18:17] nigelb: I thought you wanted the visa! [18:18] ok ok, bed time [18:18] sense: well a lot of teams who are left pending or unapproved do usually make some form of contact by now [18:18] czajkowski: Have you heard from them? [18:19] no [18:21] great... === maco2 is now known as maco [18:53] sense, you're up next! [18:53] jcastro: OK! [18:53] I'm ready! [19:16] testing, testing [19:23] loud and clear [19:32] ejat be flapin [19:42] 15 minutes till my session! [19:42] nervous? :) [19:42] excited! [19:44] jcastro is too much of a pro to still get nervous :) [20:01] go jcastro! [20:02] \o/ [20:09] Ouch, that pro Kubuntu blog on Planet Ubuntu does feel a bit nasty. [20:09] "Are you tired of having random stuff appended to your emails? Are you tired of having decision made behind your back?" [20:09] "Kubuntu does not only not append stuff to your emails, it also provides you with the means to change things that you do not like about the default setup. And should you care to improve the defaults for everyone, then you can do so by taking part in the decision-making process. For Kubuntu discusses important changes before they get implemented." [20:14] paultag: PM? [20:14] sense: it's not like the signature thing ever made it to any release [20:14] highvoltage: yeah [20:14] A bit bad taste, that blog post. [20:16] it read like a joke to me [20:17] I think it was a good blog post, he should've just focussed more on the possitive instead [20:17] (it's not like KDE or Kubuntu is perfect either) [20:17] yeah [20:17] (we all know the only perfect one is Xubuntu) [20:18] pleia2: Aren't you a Debian sysadmin? :) [20:18] well, yes [20:18] yeah. Xubuntu has no community problems and their artwork is always in before artwork freeze :) [20:19] (I actually hope that Xubuntu gets its problems sorted out over the next release) [20:19] Is there an XFCE release of Debian? [20:20] sense: when you install debian it asks you which desktop environment you want, xfce is in the list. [20:20] desktop-wise debian just does gnome [20:20] highvoltage: Maximum choice! :) [20:20] oh does it now? [20:20] neato [20:20] pleia2: for a long time now :) [20:20] I don't think I've ever actually selected the "desktop" option in debian come to think of it [20:20] default is gnome though [20:21] none of my debian servers have guis of course, and my debian laptop was another sparse install that I just ploped xorg and fluxbox on [20:22] ah, then you wouldn't have seened that :) [20:22] yeah [20:25] jono: Wonderful blog post! [20:26] thanks sense :-) [20:26] brb, grabbing lunch [20:26] jcastro, can you call me on my phone to discuss UDS? [20:27] jono: Jorge is in an UADW session atm. [20:28] ahhh np [20:34] ugh [20:34] how do I +v someone again? [20:34] /msg chanserv voice #channel nickname [20:46] I typed too fast! [20:48] jcastro: and the people understood too fast, because otherwise theere would have been more questions! [20:49] or my subject was too advanced? [20:49] or the docs are too awesome [20:49] >_> [20:49] <_< [20:49] alison is on a mailing roll this evening [20:49] alison rawks [20:49] indeed [20:49] \m/ [20:50] jcastro: Face it, you've made daily builds too easy, there is just too little to say about it! [20:50] unless it fails [20:50] then there is too much [20:50] I didn't abentley and rockstar did! [20:51] hey sense [20:52] I just turn off the banshee app indicator [20:52] ONE LESS ICON, SOUND MENU FOR THE WIN [20:52] jcastro: Hurray! Die icons! [20:52] Die! [20:52] heh [20:52] The Sound Menu is awesome. [20:55] sense: I haven't seen it yet, I wonder how it will compare to my current setup [20:56] you on 10.04? [20:56] doctormo: You will need to learn to click the sound menu rather than the music player's icon, but it's worth it. [20:56] I wish the buttons were a tad bigger [20:56] it's hard to hit the pause sometimes [20:57] though I have multimedia keys [20:57] sense: I don't click on the music player's icon right now, I use Music Applet with a simple Prev Play/Pause Next configuration on the bottom bar. [20:57] Ah, the music applet! [20:57] yeah, music applet is quite cool [20:57] Well, that's probably a bit quicker than the Sound Menu [20:58] you can't beat dedicated keys on the keyboard, but not every kb has them [20:58] true [20:58] sometimes I skip so fast notify-osd gets behind! [20:58] jcastro: Yes, still on 10.04, won't be on 10.10 until it's released. [20:58] I'll have a new machine soon so I can keep a stable release around [20:59] It's very easy to outrun Notify OSD. I really hope it will get another look for Natty. The fact that music players have to reuse old notifications in order to be timed correctly, because Notify OSD doesn't follow the spec, is horrible. [20:59] jcastro: Us poor lower class unemployed have to scavenge what machines we can ;-) [20:59] are the right notify-osd bugs assigned to klattimer sense? [21:00] jcastro: I haven't looked at Notify OSD bugs for a long time, so I cannot tell. [21:00] Anyway, I'm going to shut down, watch some tv to see if we've really got a new (way too right-wing) government 3 months and 3 weeks after the elections. [21:00] Good night! [21:11] Team reports reminder [21:11] Rock on czajkowski, I'll send an email tonight [21:12] ah, thanks czajkowski [21:12] all teams and councils folks [21:12] lets get more than last month and make me and nhandler happy [21:12] nhandler: what was last months stats ? [21:12] czajkowski: I can check later (I'm not at home) [21:13] nhandler: no bother [21:16] who ever ted gould is, he fills my inbox up swiftly! [21:29] jcastro, let's roll [21:29] skype [21:30] czajkowski, lol [21:30] JFo: I'd just gone and read all the bugs, and he comes from nowehere and 12 more appeared [21:31] hahahahaha [21:31] Ted is awesome [21:31] JFo: I'm sure he waits and his replies all in one go and they appear in an inbox all in one go, to make sure people knows he means business :) [21:31] heh, I think it is as he gets to a topic [21:32] he has tons that he works on [21:32] aye [21:32] then goes [21:32] bang [21:32] so it is probably round-robin [21:32] bang [21:32] bang [21:32] heh [21:32] bang [21:32]