=== freeflyi1g is now known as freeflying === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha === inkvizitor68sl is now known as ink|off|ZNC === ink|off|ZNC is now known as inkvizitor68sl === inkvizitor68sl is now known as ink|off|ZNC === ink|off|ZNC is now known as inkvizitor68sl === jjohansen is now known as jj-afk === inkvizitor68sl is now known as ink|off|ZNC === ink|off|ZNC is now known as inkvizitor68sl === inkvizitor68sl is now known as ink|off|ZNC === Vantrax|Work is now known as Vantrax [10:57] Summoning Asia-Oceania RMB, persia, fenris, [10:57] Summoning Asia-Oceania RMB, persia, fenris, elky, takdir, lifeless, freeflying, amachu [10:58] Vantrax: hi [10:58] hiya [10:58] if yer stuck I'm about [10:58] might be, bad run lately >.< [10:59] Vantrax, hi [10:59] hi elky [10:59] * persia is about [10:59] czajkowski, which RMB are you on btw? [11:00] hi takdir [11:00] Vantrax: EMEA [11:00] hi Vantrax [11:01] you've 5 so you seem to be ok now [11:01] fyi if you didnt already know RMB peoples we have two extra items to get through today [11:01] #startmeeting [11:01] Meeting started at 05:01. The chair is Vantrax. [11:01] Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] [11:02] Prabhash Rajarathne [11:02] are you present [11:02] yes [11:02] Please introduce yourself [11:02] Hi I'm Prabhash Rajarathne from Kandy [11:03] I'm currently contributing for Linux Localization Projects [11:03] empathy is my full Localization Project [11:04] Ah Kandy is 2nd Main city of SRI LANKA [11:05] Vantrax anything else I wanna tell?? [11:05] your working with l10n for Ubuntu but not a member of the team and have no karma? [11:06] ya [11:06] Is this linux localisation project thing an Ubuntu team? [11:07] My question then is where is your contribution recorded, and why do you not have testimonials from the group to support you? [11:08] I do like that you are teaching teachers Ubuntu, thats a good way to go [11:08] No I'm doing localization for Ubuntu as well as Fedora [11:09] I'm Mainly doing that Teacher Training programmes [11:09] Thanks Vantrax [11:09] A large part of the requirement for membership is a sustained contribution to the Ubuntu community, from what you have provided we have little to work from to identify your contribution. How do you contribute specifically to the Ubuntu community [11:09] Prabhash: where can I find the training you've done? [11:10] what you mean freeflying ? [11:11] Prabhash: any article/blog/press news about your training? [11:12] unfortunatly theres know articles about that but have some Facebook Pictures [11:12] Prabhash from what you have shown we have little to go off, I would recommend you revisit this process in a few months but in the mean time check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SriLankanTeam, http://www.facebook.com/pages/Ubuntu-Sri-Lanka/234185506302 and contact https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AbdulHaleem [11:13] The best thing to do for work like what you have been doing is to have active members of the Sri Lanka loco support you in your application through testimonials or coming here to support you in person [11:13] It looks to me like you are on the right track, just a little under prepared this time:P [11:14] You need to show us that you have been contributing for a sustained period of time (typically 6 months), part of this can be testimonials from other people in the community supporting you and the work you do in education [11:15] I would also suggest getting in touch with the ubuntu manual/ubuntu education groups [11:15] Does that all make sense Prabhash [11:15] ya [11:16] Okies, any questions before we move on? [11:17] No [11:17] Mohana Kumar are you here and ready? [11:17] Vantrax: Yes [11:17] Thank you for coming Prabhash [11:17] Please introduce yourself [11:18] Hello all. I am Mohana kumar [ wiki.ubuntu.com/Mohan_chml ]. I am from Tamil Nadu, India. I like advocating for Ubuntu in a convincing way, among the mass. I am working in Ubuntu for the past two years. I like helping people with issues anytime, to my best and like to spread Ubuntu everywhere. [11:19] I believe in support from the back rather than just making people to migrate and to try working out their problems by themselves. I made in and around 150 people near my locality to work in Ubuntu and successfully managing them to not to get back from Ubuntu. I managed to install Ubuntu in my college for 60 machines and I am currently working on listing the Free Software alternatives for Proprietary software. [11:19] btw prabhash, i recommend you check Mohan_chml's wiki page, its a great example [11:19] ya sure [11:20] * Vantrax has no questions for mohi (mohi is in BT like me) [11:20] I switched over from Win X for its lack of security and vulnerabilities. I mostly involve in helping people at #ubuntu-beginners, where I learned a lot and I am currently a member of UBT. Till now I spent time with around 1000 people in 6 Colleges and I am helping the beginners who like to switch over. I initiate people to try Dual boot and then shift completely. I |am/and will be| serving for Ubuntu at my best wherever I go. [11:20] Vantrax: =] [11:21] * Vantrax waits for persia to ask one of his patented awsome questions [11:22] Mohan_chml, Are the materials you used in the seminar you conducted available anywhere? Similarly, has your work in documentation extended to documenting advocacy? [11:23] I do not have a written document. But my friend akkash is here as we worked together in FSFTN workshops [ http://fsftn.org/content/workshop-vcet-1 ] [11:23] I lied... where are you based mohi? [11:23] nm.. you already answered that, I lied again === doko_ is now known as doko [11:24] I can't get you Vantrax [11:24] Hi Persia , Vantrax . I am mohan's friend we organized a workshop for college students . Around 300 + participated in the workshop.http://www.fsftn.org/content/workshop-vcet-1 [11:25] Towards what were the proceeds applied? [11:26] I missed the opportunity to participate in another workshop conducted in Kovilpatti. Which mohan participated .http://www.fsftn.org/content/workshop-kovilpati-1 [11:26] persia: I have no documetation of my work till now and to be true, none knows about even Linux here. I Move along with FSFTN and I demonstrate the people about Ubuntu [11:27] persia: My whole Beginners team knows what I am doing daily and that is the only log that I can search for you for updates [11:28] I can confirm alof of the testimonies given to mohi and have seen his work since he joined the Beginners Team. He has been done great work in IRC support as well as his events in India [11:28] persia: I have my Blog http://infodevils.wordpress.com/2010/08/08/two-days-foss-workshop-at-national-engineering-college/ for an FSF speech [11:30] Any more questions for mohi? or are we happy to proceed? [11:30] I am here to cheer on Mohan_chml :) [11:30] * persia has no more questions [11:30] heya duanedesign =] [11:31] Lots of cheers here as well :) [11:31] [VOTE] Mohana Kumar for Ubuntu Membership [11:31] Please vote on: Mohana Kumar for Ubuntu Membership. [11:31] Public votes can be registered by saying +1/-1/+0 in the channel, private votes by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to MootBot [11:31] E.g. /msg MootBot +1 #ubuntu-meeting [11:31] +1 [11:31] +1 received from elky. 1 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 1 [11:31] +1 [11:31] +1 received from Vantrax. 2 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 2 [11:31] +1 [11:31] +1 received from akkash. 3 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 3 [11:31] akkash: you can't [11:31] oops soory [11:31] lol only RMB memebers votes are counted akkash [11:31] sorry [11:32] it happens, quite often [11:32] sorry for that Vantrax [11:32] poke takdir [11:33] or czajkowski [11:33] +1 [11:33] +1 for Mohan_chml [11:33] +1 received from persia. 4 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 4 [11:33] +1 received from takdir. 5 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 5 [11:33] [ENDVOTE] [11:33] Final result is 5 for, 0 against. 0 abstained. Total: 5 [11:33] Grats Mohi [11:33] Hmm, close call :P [11:33] Ty guys [11:34] Mohan_chml: Congrats!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [11:34] congrats Mohan_chml [11:34] last but not least, Gary Dean your up [11:34] \o/ [11:34] * KuKuKaChu is here [11:34] ty andrew_46 and hyperair and duanedesign for making your presence [11:34] I am Gary Dean, aka KuKuKaChu. [11:35] I am a business management consultant in Jakarta, Indonesia (http://www.okusiassociates.com) [11:35] I also operate a smaller computer support business (http://www.okusicomputersupport.com) specialising in setting up Ubuntu servers for small and medium businesses. [11:36] I guess my main contribution to ubuntu is setting up a forum for Indonesian users of Ubuntu (http://ubuntu-indonesia.com). [11:37] I have actively promoted use of Ubuntu in Indonesia, including producing at my own expense 1000 CDs for free distribution in Indonesia. [11:37] i also actively promote Ubuntu through my websites. [11:37] that is a pretty major forum, and alot of CDs [11:37] I also sometimes contribute Indonesian translations, though not as often as a should. [11:38] vantrax, yes, it got rather big :) [11:39] I can see that, you are a little light on the translation side, something you plan on doing more of, or will you be focused on the forum and spreading the 'gospel' of ubuntu? [11:40] * Vantrax is constantly amazed how much ubuntu seems like a cult of linux:P [11:41] KuKuKaChu, How would you describe the relation between BlankOn and Ubuntu? [11:41] KuKuKaChu, there is an ubuntu community at Jakarta, it's named Ubuntu Metro. this is a part of Ubuntu-ID. what is your plan to ubuntu community at Jakarta ? or do you just active in ubuntu-indonesia.com forum ? [11:41] far question. i'm planning on contributing more to translations, as i know i can do a good job of it, but my time is very limited. i run a very busy company, and promoting ubuntu is a bit of an indulgence. [11:42] before setting up ubuntu-indonesia.com i tried contacting people at ubuntu-id.org about the forum on that site, which was permanently unavailable. i never got replies. [11:42] i;ve never heard of Ubuntu Metro [11:43] ubuntu metro : http://groups.google.com/group/id-ubuntu/browse_thread/thread/a86b7c902a8359c0/cc656b91be43f4a0?lnk=gst&q=Ubuntu+Jakarta#cc656b91be43f4a0 [11:43] i am mainly active in ubuntu-indonesia.com [11:43] * Vantrax thinks takdir and KuKuKaChu should chat:P [11:44] anyone still need to ask more questions/need more time? [11:44] * persia is still waiting for an answer [11:45] persia, sorry didnt see that [11:45] KuKuKaChu, [20:41] KuKuKaChu, How would you describe the relation between BlankOn and Ubuntu? [11:46] Riddell: do you think there is still an opened window for a late unity upload fixing an issue with nautilus on file copy? [11:46] didrocks, ECHAN ? [11:46] well, i've never felt compeltely comfortable with the blankon project. i feel a properly translated Ubuntu should be sufficient [11:46] persia: urgh, right :) [11:48] Vantrax, Shall we proceed? [11:49] [VOTE] KuKuKaChi for Ubuntu Membership [11:49] Please vote on: KuKuKaChi for Ubuntu Membership. [11:49] Public votes can be registered by saying +1/-1/+0 in the channel, private votes by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to MootBot [11:49] E.g. /msg MootBot +1 #ubuntu-meeting [11:49] KuKuKaChu, may be you should have testimonial from ubuntu-indonesia.com member and ubuntu-id community especially from Jakarta ? :) [11:50] +0 : lots of great work, but uncertain integration with other (accepted) groups in Indonesia: would benefit from review/integration and discussion with takdir and (hopefully) return shortly. [11:50] Abstention received from persia. 0 for, 0 against. 1 have abstained. Count is now 0 [11:50] +0 Same reason as persia, its about integration into the Ubuntu community as much as the contribution (which is great) [11:50] Abstention received from Vantrax. 0 for, 0 against. 2 have abstained. Count is now 0 [11:51] +0 same [11:51] Abstention received from elky. 0 for, 0 against. 3 have abstained. Count is now 0 [11:52] +0 [11:52] Abstention received from freeflying. 0 for, 0 against. 4 have abstained. Count is now 0 [11:52] [ENDVOTE] [11:52] Final result is 0 for, 0 against. 4 abstained. Total: 0 [11:52] +0 .. there is a great ubuntu indonesia forum since ubuntu-id forum is not active, may we should communicate at ubuntu-id milist [11:52] I would REALLY encourage you to come back in a few months after getting more plugged into your LoCo and other Ubuntu groups in your area. [11:53] do you have any questions or comments KuKuKaChu? [11:54] * persia would be happy to see back in a few weeks even, if it was part of a general reintegration of the apparently fractured ubuntu-id community. [11:54] vantax, thanks. like i mentioned, my inability to make contact with the loco was my primary reason for go alone with ubuntu-indonesia, but hopefully now that i have made contact with takdir i can move forward and integrate it into the local forums [11:54] I would suggest keeping in contact with takdir and he will likely have you reapplying soon [11:54] thank you, i shall [11:55] Okies, a few other admin items quickly before we break [11:55] KuKuKaChu, And don't take this as indication you should close your forums: it's worth supporting those users, just in a way that helps bring everyone together for common sharing of solutions, etc. [11:55] ..... if you closed it we would have to hunt you down :P [11:56] Its a great thing, just not enough for your requirements on its own [11:56] persia, thanks. no intention of closing. i would be lynched! it has a life of it's own now! [11:56] Great! [11:56] This is incentive to finish integrating with the community at large :) [11:56] Id like a volunteer to handle the team reporting function for the RMB. There are new reporting requirements (that require maintaining another wiki page) that we are not following and should be. [11:57] Ok KuKuKaChu, we will waiting you at ubuntu-id ? :) [11:57] Vantrax, feel free to take over the paperwork! I shall not stop you [11:57] my wiki-fu is weak [11:57] takdir, sure. answer your emails! ;) [11:57] :( [11:57] Vantrax, if you need "wiki-fu" then they're expecting an awful lot... [11:57] and since i started this new job my free time is not much [11:57] nhandler will step whoever wants to have a go through it all [11:58] if no one wants it, ill look at it and revisit this in a month or two [11:58] Vantrax, I'll take it if you're too busy. It's not much, and it's important. [11:59] thanks persia [11:59] I have to admit I'm very much not in favour of the "Hi, we're your volunteers" "here, jump through these paperwork hoops" stuff that keeps snowballing. [11:59] ill help you where I can [11:59] Ok last bit, our CC approved restructure. [11:59] elky, This is unrelated to that. Team Reporting is *OLD*, and is just getting revived so we have a way to share knowledge that is clearer than the current systems. [11:59] persia, if one needs "wiki fu" then there's somethign wrong [11:59] The approved change is that to cover our area effectively is to expand the team, run two meetings each with a quorum of 4 [12:00] One meeting run at around 1900 GMT+5:30 and one at the current time or one hour earlier at 19:00 GMT+10. [12:00] As you can all make this meeting I assume the current time is fine and possibly one more person in the GMT +10 region. As most of you can't make a much later time, I propose we add 3 more in the GMT+5-6 region. [12:00] elky, One doesn't really. [12:00] Vantrax, These are not good times. [12:00] my definition of wiki-fu is rather broad:P [12:01] recommendation then persia? [12:01] I want to get this process kicked of this week [12:01] * persia tries to do math [12:02] OK. I'd suggest one about 8:00 UTC (Australia moves east in a week or so), and the other around 14:00 UTC (commutes in India are often very long). [12:02] that would be a meeting starting 4-5 hours from now [12:03] Vantrax, which is fine for the indian/se-asian folks [12:03] if you go to 8:00 UTC you might have issues with people being able to make it with getting home at aroud 6pm and dinner [12:03] Isn't that 22:00 in NZ, or did I do math wrong? [12:03] which is what we're already doing to the indian/se-asian folks [12:04] persia, nz is currently midnight right now [12:04] yep [12:04] next week it'll be 10pm now for me [12:04] And it's 11:00 UTC. OK. I'm happy with 9:00 rather than 8:00. [12:04] Vantrax, you're melb or perth? can't remember [12:04] Key is that we can't have it late enough that it's never good in NZ. [12:04] Brisbane, so im always on the same time [12:05] how about we try with 0900 and 1400 and see how we go, we can move the times around if we find it doesnt work [12:05] but do we all agree in principle, and on the times +-1hr [12:05] Works for me, except I wonder how many can attend the 14:00. [12:06] because I know at least three of us find that very late. [12:06] that would be why we would recruit people in central and western asia [12:06] to fill that [12:06] for example, india, sri lanka, china [12:06] Right. We need to be better at that (recruiting has been our continuing failure since we started). [12:07] nigelb, around? [12:07] with 12 on the board and 4 required for quorum we should meet it more often now [12:07] with this going ahead [12:07] China gets annoying because of the one-time-zone bit. Being farther west doesn't help. [12:08] persia, true [12:08] always seemed odd that [12:08] Vantrax, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_in_China goes into great depth [12:08] we are over time guys, ill be sending out an email to ubuntu members advertising positions tonight. [12:09] I nominate nigelb if he feels he's up to it [12:09] he he he [12:09] Didn't we already get a nomination for him? I thought I heard about one. [12:09] yeah we did, before we called for em [12:09] I know he was considering it last time, but I don't know that anything happened [12:10] #endmeeting [12:10] Meeting finished at 06:10. [12:10] I think he might have had second thoughts, but that was months ago so he might be more easily coerced now :) [12:10] ill send an email out shortly [12:10] I think we'd do well to check with everyone that has been nominated for various reasons previously, as we've put out previous calls for nominations, and not always acted on them clearly. [12:10] good idea [12:11] persia, i agree. previous nominations were for a reason, and previous refusals might change with the new times [12:11] I'm not convinced we've responded to all the previous nominations, but I may be incorrect. [12:11] Anyway. Any other business? [12:13] nope, we done === rgreening_ is now known as ghost === ghost is now known as rgreening [13:59] #startmeeting [13:59] Meeting started at 07:59. The chair is NCommander. [13:59] Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] [13:59] hey [13:59] * NCommander pokes GrueMaster dyfet ogra persia rsalveti and davidm [14:00] that tickles [14:00] * ogra is here [14:00] o? [14:00] [link] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileTeam/Meeting/2010/20100928 [14:00] LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileTeam/Meeting/2010/20100928 [14:00] o/ [14:00] * GrueMaster grumbles over his ginormous coffee mug. [14:01] [topic] Action Item Review [14:01] New Topic: Action Item Review [14:01] [topic] NCommander to clear out assigned bugs [14:01] New Topic: NCommander to clear out assigned bugs [14:01] c/o [14:01] well [14:02] we'Re hard frozen now for RC [14:02] [topic] Standing Items [14:02] New Topic: Standing Items [14:02] so you should have some time [14:02] :P [14:02] [link] http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-mobile.html [14:02] LINK received: http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-mobile.html [14:02] G'day [14:02] morning davidm [14:02] persia still has 3 todos [14:03] making us touch the trendline ! [14:03] time to postpone them i'd say [14:03] Ouch. It burns! [14:03] I've been postponing spec work, since none of it directly affected the release. if it's causing you guys issues, I'll focus on that this week. [14:04] juts makes us look bad in the chart [14:04] can't have that :) [14:04] (the overall one) [14:05] [topic] http://qa.ubuntu.com/reports/team-assigned/canonical-mobile-assigned-bug-tasks.html [14:05] New Topic: http://qa.ubuntu.com/reports/team-assigned/canonical-mobile-assigned-bug-tasks.html [14:05] the milestone release one lookd fine [14:05] *looks [14:05] NCommander, you could port erlang this week ;) [14:06] :-P [14:06] cna I move on? [14:06] sure [14:06] [topic] Kernel Status (cooloney, mpoirier, lag) [14:06] New Topic: Kernel Status (cooloney, mpoirier, lag) [14:06] It's going to be a shorter one this week: [14:06] Marvel (mvl-dove): [14:06] * Marvell new LSP 5.3.5 drop has been integrated in Lucid. Maverick is coming soon. [14:06] Freescale (fsl-imx51): [14:06] * nothing new this week. [14:06] OMAP3: [14:06] * SGX driver has been integrated to maverick and proven to work properly. Will be introduced in N. [14:06] * ftrace graph tracing integration has been put on hold as it need a lot of work. [14:06] OMAP4: [14:06] * B647890 - FIXED: Building error when turning off CONFIG_SMP [14:06] * B633227 - ONGOING: Instabilities with highmem activated - we have 1G memory without highmem but need to disable SMP or L2 cache. [14:07] * B637947 - ONGOING: A solution seems to be in line for panda with proper renaming of sound card. Awaiting patch from TI. [14:07] .. [14:07] there is a dove metapackage upload missing [14:07] the new kernel most likely wont end up in the images [14:07] (bjf uploaded one yesterday) [14:07] I thought I saw a request in -release to push that pre-RC [14:07] ah, ok [14:08] i didnt follow release that closely, the spam^Wqueuebot was so noisy [14:08] for bug 633227 we're still trying to find an easy way to reproduce it, to try to understand it better [14:08] Launchpad bug 633227 in linux-ti-omap4 (Ubuntu Maverick) "instabilities with highmem activated" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/633227 [14:08] Hope they fix bug 634161 when they push it out. [14:08] Launchpad bug 634161 in linux-mvl-dove (Ubuntu) "Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 0ce003be - parport_pc driver load issue" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/634161 [14:08] even when we remove highmem of the picture, we still face the issue [14:08] mpoirier, any plans to bring the IGEP2 stuff into an SRU post release ? [14:09] GrueMaster, It's just a meta-upload. Nothing substantive. [14:09] I was only able to make it work properly when running without highmem and no SMP, or no L2 [14:09] ogra: the new paches or support the board ? [14:09] so probably a racing condition [14:09] mpoirier, yep [14:09] seems we have a lot progress on that platform [14:09] would be sad to lose the fixes [14:09] yup, would be good to push them forward [14:09] persia: The bug only requires turning off the parport_pc driver in the config. [14:09] i understand they cant go into the release though [14:10] but probably in a post release SRU [14:10] post release would be fine [14:10] ogra: I think time started that - I'll look into it. [14:10] no hurry though [14:10] GrueMaster, Right, but config is part of the source package for the kernel, not the -meta source package: unlikely the release team will approve such an upload, as it breaks the installer, etc. [14:10] cna I move on? [14:10] and would be good if at least one of us could get one, to be able to check and test the kernel [14:10] post release is ... well after release :) [14:10] how is the progress on sound on OMAP4 ? [14:11] After conversation on alsa-soc yesterday it is clear the fix is not in the kernel. [14:11] * ogra didnt see much discussion in #ubuntu-arm recently [14:11] putting it there, even nicely, would be refused by upstream and therefore wasted time. [14:11] mind to update us on that ? [14:12] what exactly is required and what do we have [14:12] well, soc guys have purposely avoided putting a scheme forward for config in kernel. [14:12] mpoirier, I read that differently: I read it as changing the kernel to ensure we had unique strings, and then creating userspace configs. [14:13] persia: I never denied that. [14:13] Sorry, then I misunderstood your "the fix is not in the kernel". [14:14] persia: we won't apply the configs for the cards in the kernel. [14:14] the kernel names the card properly, which is pickup in userspace, where configs files are. [14:14] berco has some config files that mostly work for panda: the same scheme could probably be extended to other boards. There's an outstanding issue with saving the mixer state on reboot which needs investigation (if someone can replicate on beagle, I'm happy to investigate, but that requires someone with panda and beagle to confirm it's a parallel issue) [14:15] Sounds like something for me to test. [14:15] so we'll use /usr/share/alsa* and the kernel gets a patch that /usr/share/alsa picks up stuff properly ? [14:15] we still have a problem in omap3 where cards for beagle C4, XM and gumstix are named the same. [14:15] ogra: yes. [14:15] * ogra is most concerned about OMAP4 atm :) [14:16] ogra, Precisely. [14:16] OAMP3 is all nice to have [14:16] again, if we want to follow the same in omap3, a little bit of work is needed. [14:16] mpoirier, Do we have differentiation for the differing wiremaps for the omap4 variants? [14:16] having a common solution for all our omapX platform would be nice. [14:16] We have the same issue in Dove as well. [14:17] persia: omap4 variants ? [14:17] We have the same issue for all SoCs where the kernel driver is reporting the codec chip rather than a unique per-wiremap string. [14:17] mpoirier, I've at least heard "panda" and "blaze" mentioned on #ubuntu-arm. I presume there are more design wins pending. [14:17] persia, we dont even have HW to test atm [14:17] ogra, That hasn't been a blocker before :) [14:17] no ES2.0 blazes around currently [14:18] i'm sure you can get a wiremap though [14:18] i thought blaze was an omap3... I am I correct ? [14:18] no [14:18] blaze is omap4 [14:18] ok. [14:18] persia: W/o hw, we don't know what future designs will entail. [14:18] Again, the problem is exactly the same as omap3. [14:18] the name of the card is reported with no information on the platform. [14:18] blaze likely has a lot more options than panda [14:18] GrueMaster, Right, but if we design something that is sufficiently modular that it will be a trivial patch for new designs, that's far better than assuming one device is the only way an SoC will behave. [14:19] but thats userspace stuff then as i understand === jorge_ is now known as jcastro_ [14:19] persia: Best to let the kernel expose all and tweak it in user space on a case by case basis. [14:19] reduces kernel bloat, faster to fix. [14:20] ogra, kernelspace needs to report a unique string. userspace can then use that unique string to set configuration through autodetection. === jcastro_ is now known as jcastro [14:20] GrueMaster, Indeed. Precisely. [14:20] persia, right [14:20] persia: that's what I'be been saying. [14:20] Right. [14:20] I had a chat with Irg on that front. [14:21] let see what they come back with. [14:21] I hate to be a pain, but we have other things ot discuss, can we movw past kernel bugs? [14:21] other things ? [14:22] .. [14:22] more important than kernel bugs ? [14:22] cant be [14:22] on the agenda [14:22] :) [14:22] move [14:22] :-p [14:22] [topic] QA Status (GrueMaster) [14:22] New Topic: QA Status (GrueMaster) [14:23] Not much to report. Still finding obscure bugs. Main focus has been on Dove audio (since omap audio is currently covered). [14:23] I have a couple of bugs that I need to file, but absolutely no idea what to file against. [14:23] Will try consulting #ubuntu-bugs again after the meeting. [14:23] GrueMaster: pokem after the meeting and I'll help [14:24] [topic] * ARM Porting/FTBFS status ([[MichaelCasadevall|NCommander]], [[DavidSugar|dyfet]]) [14:24] New Topic: * ARM Porting/FTBFS status ([[MichaelCasadevall|NCommander]], [[DavidSugar|dyfet]]) [14:24] pp[s [14:24] *opps [14:24] NCommander, tsk [14:24] (and I guess I'm done). [14:24] Nothing new to report [14:24] let tobin finish :) [14:24] [topic] QA Status (GrueMaster) [14:24] New Topic: QA Status (GrueMaster) [14:24] heh [14:24] hooray for complete messup :P [14:25] Still looking into a bug query that is more useful to us. [14:25] ;-P [14:25] Not much else to report other than the images have been having build issues. [14:25] move ? [14:25] move [14:26] [topic] ARM Image Status [14:26] New Topic: ARM Image Status [14:26] NCommander, skipping FTBFS ? [14:26] ailed to build due to archive skew due to libgtk+2.0 [14:26] ogra: already did it [14:26] no [14:26]