[00:00] <edbian> cristian_, ufw
[00:00] <vinc1> cristian_, ufw
[00:00] <erUSUL> !firewall | cristian_
[00:00] <alex87> erUSUL: i add files to each of the locations, but i'll see if i can work something out with it
[00:00] <vinc1> cristian_, ufw is a snap to use -- much, much easier than iptables commands
[00:00] <xzeng> when i call $ xset dpms force off, why does it always turn off the backlight after a while?
[00:00] <Spaztic_One> k, well, i'll be back in a couple then
[00:00] <xzeng> *why does it always turn ON the backlight after a while
[00:00] <vinc1> cristian_, plus, ufw, once enabled, will automatically remain enabled after reboot, until you type "ufw disable"
[00:00] <GriFF3n> I'm having trouble trying to copy files from a NTFS drrive to my Ubuntu Server drive, url here>http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1583075
[00:00] <GriFF3n> anyone want to help?
[00:00] <cristian_> ufw does offer graphical management with easy log view?
[00:00] <vinc1> cristian_, no, but there might be some other tool written to do that
[00:00] <ActionParsnip> GriFF3n: the ntfs is a partition, not a drive
[00:00] <vinc1> The log is pretty straight-forward.
[00:00] <GriFF3n> yea, sorry bout that
[00:00] <vinc1> It used to go to syslog, but I think the newer versions go to /var/log/ufw.log
[00:00] <xzeng> anyone?
[00:00] <ActionParsnip> GriFF3n: if you have write access the the ubuntu partition and read access to the ntfs partition you are all set
[00:00] <GriFF3n> the drive is formatted in NTFS, and i have it mounted with ntfs-3g
[00:00] <jeeves_Moss> I know Ubuntu's ruby package is messed, but I can't remember the work around for this error.  anyone?  http://pastebin.ca/1949976
[00:00] <vinc1> cristian_, the log is pretty straight-forward when you read it. Tells you who came in, what happened, where they wanted to go, etc.
[00:00] <ActionParsnip> GriFF3n: if you run: mount   you will see the permissions on the mount
[00:00] <cristian_> vinc1, i am searching for such tool, a tool with a graphical environment on outside control, something like a webpage.
[00:00] <etrnl> Anyone familiar with touchscreens and getting them calibrated in ubuntu?
[00:00] <dgtl> hi, can anyone help me? parted says, i have overlapping partitions
[00:00] <dominicdinada> effin finally i can connect to the git
[00:01] <vinc1> cristian_, such a tool is probably a purchase item. Don't know of one yet with a GUI that's free. But I haven't really looked.
[00:01] <Guest42910> seriously
[00:01] <Guest42910> ..
[00:01] <GriFF3n> ran mount, everything seams ok
[00:01] <GriFF3n> go to http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1583075 to see the log of mount pls
[00:01] <grkblood> im trying to view a dvd of pictures that someone gave me and i cant view the dvd, this is what dmesg is telling me http://pastebin.com/YRPRXAxn
[00:02] <vinc1> cristian_, when dealing with TCP/UDP traffic on Linux, many of the tools are not GUI based, but command-line based. Just the way it's been for years. Now, there are sniffer tools that have a GUI, though. Such as Wireshark, TShark, etc.
[00:02] <Randolph> good night all
[00:02] <adaro> does anyone else have problems with chromium ? it does not do a google search anymore if i enter a search query in the browser bar
[00:02] <Jordan_U> Spaztic_One: Did you get my answer before I lost my connection?
[00:02] <vinc1> cristian_, but these GUI tools are very hard to use.
[00:03] <Spaztic_One> OK, compiz --replace fixed my problem. What had happened, and what are these errors ( http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/7BntyhMz ) talking about?
[00:03] <conb123> Does ubuntu perform dns lookups more efficiently than Windows. Because I ran namebench on windows with my isp standard dns and it told me google public dns would be 50% faster , I then ran exactly the same thing in ubuntu and it told me that it would only be 4.8% faster
[00:03] <vinc1> must go. bbfn
[00:03] <Spaztic_One> Jordan_U: no, I did not.
[00:03] <Jordan_U> Spaztic_One: You can get to a terminal via ctrl+alt+F1 (ctrl+alt+F7 to get back) then run "DISPLAY=:0.0 metacity --replace"
[00:03] <edbian> Spaztic_One, compiz crashed.  Looks like something low level in the code.
[00:03] <Guymed> Hey, could anyone help me? When I get the five dots in the first ubuntu screen during install, my screen goes blank and my computer hangs
[00:03] <cjmaynar> hey question for you guys, i'm working on upgrading django 1.1.1 that comes with 10.04 to django 1.2.3
[00:03] <cjmaynar> but having some problems
[00:03] <cristian_> vinc1 i know. but i want to make something nice and easy to manage. i found smoothwall that is great, but i want something like that from ubuntu. this is why i ask here.
[00:03] <soreau> Spaztic_One: Those are not errors, they are warning messages and are safe to ignore
[00:03] <grkblood> anyone?
[00:04] <soreau> edbian: That output indicates no problem
[00:04] <edbian> soreau, :)
[00:04] <cjmaynar> i've removed 1.1.1, and downloaded the 1.2.3 tarball, and run the setup.py install, and got no luck there
[00:04] <Wally__> edb
[00:04] <soreau> edbian: not funny.
[00:04] <Wally__> edbian,
[00:04] <Guymed> I can't use the nomodeset or xforcevesa commands during install
[00:04] <edbian> soreau, Thank you for explaining.  I didn't think it was funny
[00:04] <edbian> Wally__,
[00:05] <ActionParsnip> Guymed: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-fix-ubuntu-10-04-lts-lucid-blank-screen-at-startup.html
[00:05] <Spaztic_One> OK, well, how do I make this fix permanent so I can close that terminal without my problems coming right back?
[00:05] <edbian> Spaztic_One, Go to system -> preferences -> appearences -> desktop effects and switch them to normal
[00:05] <grkblood> im trying to view a dvd of pictures that someone gave me and i cant view the dvd, this is what dmesg is telling me http://pastebin.com/YRPRXAxn, anyone got a suggestion?
[00:05] <ActionParsnip> Spaztic_One: you will need to add an entry in your startup items to run the command
[00:07] <Spaztic_One> Well, what caused this to start happening in the first place?
[00:12] <Guymed> Thanks!
[00:15]  * crack05 is away (Gone)
[00:26] <Wally__> edbian, I have a folder full of pictures and I wanna print out a cheat sheet of thumbnails.  Like 25 per page.
[00:26] <edbian> Wally__, You need special software afaik.
[00:26] <Wally__> ok
[00:26] <edbian> Spaztic_One, I don't know.  I'm not sure that turning compiz on will fix it.
[00:26] <edbian> Spaztic_One, You should try and test.
[00:26] <agentgasmask> wii edbain
[00:26] <ActionParsnip> Spaztic_One: possibly new video driver causing compiz not to load properly and bomb but a manual execution works
[00:26] <edbian> agentgasmask, yes?
[00:26] <ActionParsnip> Spaztic_One: could be a miryad of stuff
[00:26] <agentgasmask> edbian: sorry, I'm just trying out some irc command, I'm new... :)
[00:26] <agentgasmask> *commands
[00:26] <edbian> agentgasmask, no worries
[00:26] <conb123> Which command lists the dns server in use in ubuntu?
[00:26] <Jordan_U> conb123: cat /etc/resolv.conf
[00:26] <ActionParsnip> conb123: cat /etc/resolv.conf
[00:26] <dominicdinada> i keep getting an error about libmp3lame not being installed but even when installed the aptitude version is libmp3lame0    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=786095 step 4
[00:26] <conb123> Jordan_U, ActionParsnip: Thanks
[00:26] <Jordan_U> conb123: You're welcome.
[00:26] <jimms> aeon-ltd: thank you for your help anyway
[00:26] <conb123> Jordan_U, ActionParsnip: Hmm, I just added google public dns as my primary dns and my isp's as secondary. However my isp's is the only one in resolv.conf
[00:26] <ActionParsnip> conb123: how did you add it?
[00:26] <conb123> ActionParsnip: Network Manager
[00:26] <ActionParsnip> conb123: did you restart network manager?
[00:26] <conb123> ActionParsnip: Ah, of course, forgot about that, thanks
[00:26] <ActionParsnip> conb123: :)
[00:26] <kneaux> i need some help with runlevels for a script i've put in /etc/init.d/
[00:26] <ActionParsnip> !runlevel
[00:26] <Weapon_X> Hey all
[00:26] <Weapon_X> I've got a problem with my ubuntu machine
[00:26] <ActionParsnip> !hi | Weapon_X
[00:26] <Weapon_X> hey ActionParsnip
[00:26] <conb123> Oh, also, does anyone know if the updated kernel in maverick fixed the ati issues?
[00:26] <Weapon_X> I am getting an error when I boot everything saying that my iceauthority cannot update
[00:26] <coz_> conb123,  I couldnt tell you .. I dont have ati on my machines here
[00:26] <Weapon_X> its giving me all sorts of problems.  I have read online and they are telling me to enter safe mode
[00:26] <coz_> conb123,  did you ask in #ubuntu+1 ?
[00:26] <Weapon_X> but my ubuntu machine will not give me that option
[00:26] <ABGD> hey people, i just did a fresh install of ubuntu i'm new to linux-world but loving it, what are some of your recommended first things to do on a fresh install?
[00:26] <conb123> coz_: I might do yeah, I had to revert my kernel since the new kernel broke support for my 5750
[00:26] <Weapon_X> ABGD, is it a desktop or laptop
[00:26] <coz_> conb123,  ok understood...well... #ubuntu+1  is the channel for maverick... it is also the channel when a new version of ubuntu is underdevelopment
[00:26] <LjL^> !netsplit
[00:26] <edbian> ABGD, Check out the repos.
[00:26] <edbian> ABGD, An operating system is a tool.  That question is sort of like asking "I just got a new table saw, what should I do?"  You get yourself a project that's what you do.
[00:26] <ActionParsnip> ABGD: use it and get used to it, also install ubuntu-restricted-extras if you are legally OK to do so
[00:26] <ActionParsnip> ABGD: if you need DVD playback then get that sorted
[00:26] <dominicdinada> your effin kidding me
[00:26] <dominicdinada> libmp3lame has not been updated in the repos since 2008
[00:26] <dominicdinada> smh
[00:26] <Shaul> ppq: how to build deb that doesn't use usr/local folder for binaries
[00:26] <ActionParsnip> dominicdinada: find a ppa then
[00:26] <ActionParsnip> !ppa | dominicdinada
[00:26] <ppq> !packaging
[00:27] <ppq> Shaul, ^
[00:27] <dominicdinada> ty action
[00:28] <dominicdinada> but ffmpeg forcing for the 3.98.3 >= libmp3lame
[00:28] <lirakis> hey all
[00:28] <lirakis> im using calibre
[00:28] <lirakis> but it doesnt detect my sony prs-500 unless i am roo
[00:28] <lirakis> *root
[00:29] <lirakis> does any one know the permissions (group) i need to be a part of to have calibre detect my reader?
[00:29] <dominicdinada> ActionParsnip: but ffmpeg forcing for the 3.98.3 >= libmp3lame
[00:29] <lirakis> right now it only works when i run it as root
[00:30] <Shaun> omg, netsplit, neardeath experience
[00:30] <lirakis> yeah jeeze
[00:30] <lirakis> that was a massive scroll
[00:30] <Shaul> yup
[00:31] <Shaun> it chucked me in ubuntu-unregged, where floodbot is flooding madly
[00:31] <LjL> well there's a reason it's called floodbot!
[00:31] <[IRAQI]> is there easy way to create netowrk connection ( share files/print) PC (Windows XP ) and Laptop (Ubunutu 10) ? easy way
[00:32] <Shaun> LjL: of course
[00:32] <Zelfje> [IRAQI]: SAMBA
[00:32] <mcgyber0o0> i have a problem with grub. I had to reinstall ubuntu and it won't load windows 7. I have had this problem before but someone fixed it for me by having me insert a string of commands into the grub file. i can't remember what i did or had to do.
[00:33] <[IRAQI]> Zelfje: samba ?mean
[00:33] <Zelfje> file sharing for windoze
[00:34] <Zelfje> google ()
[00:34] <LjL> !samba
[00:34] <lirakis> does any one know the permissions (group) i need to be a part of to have caliber detect my sony reader?
[00:35] <lirakis> right now it only connects when i run caliber as root
[00:35] <undecim> can someone tell me how to stream pulseaudio to a Windows client?
[00:35] <[IRAQI]> thanks.......................................................................................... :)
[00:35] <ABGD> Weapon_X: It's a desktop
[00:36] <ABGD> ActionParsnip: Ubuntu-restricted-extras what is the legal issues with that ?
[00:36] <mcgyber0o0> i have a problem with grub. I had to reinstall ubuntu and it won't load windows 7. I have had this problem before but someone fixed it for me by having me insert a string of commands into the grub file. i can't remember what i did or what i had to do.
[00:37] <undecim> mcgyber0o0: Have you updated your software packages yet?
[00:37] <mcgyber0o0> you mean the update in administrative options?
[00:37] <Name141> how do I reinstall a package fully, including old config files ?
[00:38] <Shaun> is not being able to access windows such a bad thing?
[00:38] <mcgyber0o0> well i game so yes
[00:38] <mcgyber0o0> i have a good amount of money put into games
[00:38] <edbian> Name141, you purge it first then install it.  It won't take care of ~/.files though  those you have to delete manually
[00:38] <Zelfje> Name141: sudo apt-get remove --purge packagename
[00:38] <Zelfje> then reinstall
[00:39] <Dulak> Name141: sudo apt-get remove packagename && sudo apt-get purge packagename && sudo apt-get install packagename
[00:39] <Shaun> will dpkg --reconfigure grub give you the nice ncurses menu for electing to have windows in your menu, mcgyber0o0?
[00:39] <Shaun> really sorry, i've used arch for too long and don't have a debian box hanging around atm
[00:40] <mcgyber0o0> well windows 7 shows up in grub but it says device not found
[00:40] <Shaun> ahh, it's prob chosen the wrong partition to boot from
[00:40] <mcgyber0o0> i have my ubuntu on sdb and windows and grub on sda
[00:43] <Shaun> mcgyber0o0: sent pm as don't know whether #ubuntu tolerates pasting
[00:43] <disappearedng> I need to install windows in a virtual environment for Web development. What are the best virtual box available for this task?
[00:43] <jeeves_moss> what's up with the new floodbot?  it's annoying
[00:44] <aeon-ltd> Shaun: ubuntu does tolerate pasting as long as its one line if not use pastebin
[00:44] <edbian> disappearedng, I like virtual box
[00:44] <jeeves_moss> what is the package for ruby's net-ssh in Ubuntu?
[00:45] <jeeves_moss> what is the package for ruby's net-ssh in Ubuntu?
[00:45] <xbonesx> anyone know if the plymouth boot screen issue is fixed in 10.10?
[00:47] <irule> that antispambot BOT is weird lol
[00:48] <ActionParsnip> !10.10 | xbonesx
[00:49] <Jordan_U> mcgyber0o0: What is the output of "sudo os-prober"?
[00:50] <mcgyber0o0> /dev/sda1:Windows 7 (loader):Windows:chain
[00:50] <teage> unsober, are you using a cd?
[00:50] <Jordan_U> mcgyber0o0: "sudo update-grub" should add a windows entry to your grub.cfg automatically then.
[00:51] <RJ_F1> hey, how come when i join This channel, I get redirected to the spambot checker thing? (every single time?)
[00:51] <Jordan_U> !register | RJ_F1
[00:51] <edbian> RJ_F1, Because of spammers.
[00:51] <RJ_F1> i have registered my nick.
[00:52] <mcgyber0o0> Generating grub.cfg ...
[00:52] <mcgyber0o0> Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-24-generic
[00:52] <mcgyber0o0> Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-2.6.32-24-generic
[00:52] <mcgyber0o0> Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.31-20-generic
[00:52] <RJ_F1> so, i dont understand why im sent there?
[00:52] <FloodBot1> mcgyber0o0: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:52] <mcgyber0o0> Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-2.6.31-20-generic
[00:52] <mcgyber0o0> Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.31-14-generic
[00:52] <Jordan_U> !pastebin | mcgyber0o0
[00:52] <maco> RJ_F1: are you not identifying after registering
[00:52] <maco> RJ_F1: ?
[00:52] <edbian> RJ_F1, It makes sure your human and not a robot.
[00:53] <Jordan_U> mcgyber0o0: Try rebooting now and there should be an option to boot windows.
[00:54] <xbonesx> ActionParsnip: TY
[00:54] <teage> RJ_F1, we dont want to end up like yahoo chat with a bunch of porn bots and alike.
[00:54] <macmar> so i am having a problem getting skype to work with my web cam; It does work in cheese; I have looked at the wiki and saw about preload v4l1compat.so but still when i go to look at the video in options > video> test all it comes back is black but the little blue light by the webcam does come on; its built in laptop microdia sonix usb 2.0 camera any hints or pointing to reading material?
[00:54] <Agent001> I'm having trouble having google earth work on my ubuntu system. It quickly exits when I start up
[00:55] <Hidekazu2> -.-. --.-
[00:55] <Name141> how do I clean out old data? apt-get autoremove, apt-get clean , apt-get autoclean ?
[00:55] <Name141> is that the only options?
[00:56] <teage> Name141, no thats not the only option, i will give you a link for a script. works perfectly
[00:56] <ActionParsnip> Name141: if you run:  dpkg -l | grep ^rc   you should see the packages which are removed but have old configs left
[00:57] <ActionParsnip> Name141: if you then run: sudo dpkg -P packagename     it wil remove the config
[00:57] <ActionParsnip> Name141: it may be: dpkg -l | grep rc   if ^rc shows nothing
[00:57] <WXZ> is there anyway to save screen
[00:57] <Jbirky> I want to install an Ubuntu server that hosts windows file shares
[00:57] <Name141> ActionParsnip: it shows the package I want to remove the old config for
[00:58] <WXZ> w/out the save screen dialogue popping up?
[00:58] <Jbirky> Can I do that and make authentication through the Domain work?
[00:58] <ActionParsnip> Name141: if you want to remove the config when you remove the package then use --purge when you use apt-get
[00:58] <Name141> ActionParsnip: but then what?
[00:58] <teage> Name141, this will clear your coach, sync; echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches
[00:58] <irule> I think that your ati-spam-bot-bot is not compatible with linux xchat, xchat has my stuff to register, but it looks like it opens channels before giving password
[00:59] <alanedukedotorg> sup guys
[00:59] <Name141> ActionParsnip: I assume I will have to reinstall the package, then sudo apt-get --purge remove pacakge ?
[00:59] <agentgasmask> alanedukedotorg: Hi
[00:59] <teage> Name 141 this is the link for the script, http://www.ubuntugeek.com/ubucleaner-simple-bash-script-to-keep-your-ubuntu-system-clean.html
[00:59] <ActionParsnip> Name141: no, just use: sudo dpkg -P packagename   and it will remove the config
[00:59] <Name141> package*
[01:01] <larnak> hi
[01:01] <Name141> ActionParsnip: ok, then if the package doesn't rerun like it used to when I install it, I should look to see what's wrong other wise?
[01:02] <ActionParsnip> Name141: you should laso make sure there is not a config folder for it in $HOME as purge doesn't remove those
[01:02] <agentgasmask> Hey guys. I'm looking at a tutorial to chroot jail irssi, and they use a program called "jail" http://www.jmcresearch.com/projects/jail/ I ran it on a virtual machine to test. Can anyone vouch for it?
[01:02] <yogurt_truck> what determines the behavior of autocomplete? i've added a new user and he's tab key doesn't autocomplete but rather inserts a plain tab, whereas if i su - him, it does
[01:03] <yogurt_truck> autocomplete on the terminal, i mean.
[01:03] <yogurt_truck> maybe this is a bash question. nvm.
[01:03] <Jordan_U> yogurt_truck: My guess is that you actually just have a file named "$USER" in the user's home directory, and you're getting file completion.
[01:04] <ActionParsnip> yogurt_truck: copy in the ~/.bashrc from the working user to the bad user and chown it to the bad user, you can then reopen a new console as the bad user or run: source ~/.bashrc
[01:04] <Name141> ActionParsnip: laso ?
[01:04] <ActionParsnip> Name141: also*
[01:05] <Name141> ActionParsnip: Doh!
[01:05] <Name141> ActionParsnip: that was the issue
[01:05] <Name141> I removed the configs and it remade'em
[01:07] <yogurt_truck> ActionParsnip: he has .bashrc automatically created by the adduser command
[01:07] <ActionParsnip> yogurt_truck: yes but there is a section commented out, if you have a good one flapping around you can simply copy it :)
[01:08] <Dulak> yogurt_truck: the quick fix is to set his terminal to be a login shell by default, should be an option in the prefs for whatever terminal he's using
[01:08] <^Mike\b> When will ubuntu get perl 5.12?
[01:09] <maco> ^Mike\b: maybe 11.04.. is it in debian sid?
[01:09] <^Mike\b> maco: I'm not sure... let's check...
[01:09] <maco> ^Mike\b: i just relised i can look that up
[01:09] <^Mike\b> also, omg, maco is talking to me :O
[01:09] <maco> O_o
[01:09] <yogurt_truck> oh wait. does useradd set a default shell for the user? he seems to be using sh instead of bash, because i told him to execute "bash" and he said "oh now it works"
[01:10] <^Mike\b> maco: I've heard of you before :D
[01:10] <maco> ^Mike\b: its in experimental, so itll be in sid in time for 11.04
[01:10] <IdleOne> maco: is a Rock Star in the community!
[01:10] <^Mike\b> maco: sweet, thanks :)
[01:10] <mattgyver> yogurt_truck, yes it does.  If i recall you can change it by editing /etc/passwd
[01:10]  * maco blushes and hides
[01:10] <tarabaz> somebody know when we can play with gnome 3.0. i think in 11.04, but is there is some add repo with alfa or something?
[01:11] <maco> tarabaz: i think its all packaged in universe...
[01:11] <Name141> Ok , next question is I used gparted to gain back space that was in a partition.  Now it automounts to "media/e707c3b6-5bcb-45a3-9369-bb00f7715f88" , is there a way I can fix that and make it readable/usable for myself?  Currently it only allows root.
[01:11] <yogurt_truck> mattgyver: ah there it is. thx!
[01:11] <mattgyver> yogurt_truck, np, theres another way to do it too but i always rememeber that ;)
[01:12] <mattgyver> yogurt_truck, oh yeah I think its change the $SHELL environment variable in .bash_profile or whatever
[01:12] <yogurt_truck> kinda weird that useradd generated a home dir for him with a .bashrc but then set /bin/sh as the default shell :)
[01:13] <yogurt_truck> oh i see
[01:13] <mattgyver> yogurt_truck, man, im full of thoughts, but i think you can specify their shell with -s with useradd
[01:13] <Dulak> yogurt_truck: sudo chsh -s /bin/bash username
[01:14] <yogurt_truck> oh, good to know. thx guys.
[01:14] <xbonesx> "-r" when using "cp" cause the files in the directory to be moved as well correct?
[01:14] <mattgyver> xbonesx, cp will copy them, if you want them moved just use mv
[01:15] <Dulak> xbonesx: yes that's short for recursive
[01:15] <WXZ> does anyone know how to copy to clipboard directly?
[01:15] <WXZ> when taking a screenshot?
[01:15] <xbonesx> mattgyver, Dulak: TY
[01:15] <Dulak> xbonesx: 'cp -rp sourcdir destination' will do it recursively and preserve permissions
[01:16] <mattgyver> WXZ, just use gnome-screenshot??
[01:16] <WXZ> but it makes a window pop up
[01:16] <xbonesx> "sudo cp -R INT2MIL-Ubuntu-10.04-Eng/ /lib/plymouth/themes/" <--- so this will move the file within the drectory but not the folder???
[01:16] <WXZ> I don't want that window to pop up
[01:16] <Dulak> xbonesx: -r not -R
[01:17] <xbonesx> Dulak: differences?
[01:17] <Dulak> xbonesx: -R is for chmod, not cp
[01:17] <xbonesx> Dulak: so in essence it will "chmod 755" the copied directory as well?
[01:18] <Dulak> xbonesx: what you posted there will copy (not move) and result in this: /lib/plymouth/themes/INT2MIL-Ubuntu-10.04-Eng/
[01:18] <xbonesx> Dulak: correct, sry i meant to say copy not move...
[01:18] <xbonesx> Dulak: :p
[01:18] <Dulak> xbonesx: nvm, I guess -R and -r are the same, they didn't used to be
[01:19] <xbonesx> Dulak: ok TY
[01:20] <xbonesx> Dulak: if i were to type "gksu nautilus" (it brings up a WM) can i move files in and out of "rooted" directory with permissions?
[01:20] <Dulak> xbonesx: you prolly want -rp otherwise all the files will get perms set according to the umask set in your shell, just fyi
[01:20] <Dulak> xbonesx: not sure on how nautilus would handle that, never done it myself
[01:21] <xbonesx> Dulak: should try it out and test its abilities really quick if you dont mind...
[01:22] <Dulak> xbonesx: how about you test it and let me know?  I don't have any need to do that, I use the terminal for that type of thing.  I'm old.
[01:23] <Dulak> This whole gui thing confuses me, and makes me cranky.
[01:24] <xbonesx> Dulak: lol no problem, i need to get used to using the term more anyways... this "http://paste.ubuntu.com/501840/" is where that command came from, after reviewing do you still think i should use "-rp" rather than "-R"
[01:24] <Quutar> I am trying to compile gcc under ubuntu 10.04.1 and I am getting this error - http://pastebin.com/s7dW8Yda (all the help i could find says to install ia32-libs-dev but it is no more... i tried those three suggestions... still no dice)
[01:25] <jrib> Quutar: why are you compiling gcc instead of using the gcc in the repositories?
[01:25] <Quutar> i want 4.5.1 with three optional libraries
[01:25] <jrib> Quutar: why?
[01:25] <Dulak> xbonesx: without the p all the files copied will get the perms reset to say 755, if your umask is 022 which is default.  With the p it will preserve the existing perms on the files, which is what you want.  -r or -R they are identical, one is an alias for the other
[01:25] <Quutar> i want the link time optimizations, the ppl, and the gloog additions
[01:26] <Quutar> to test if they make a difference
[01:26] <mgmuscari1> does anyone know if there's a way to attach to an X process that's running? say if my school's terrible wifi drops my connection and i lose my ssh session
[01:26] <Hidekazu2> -.-. --.-
[01:26] <xbonesx> Dulak: when messing with the plymouths files do i want that?
[01:26] <ActionParsnip> exit
[01:26] <xbonesx> Dulak: im not sure how the original creator had the files setup...
[01:26] <jrib> !compile > Quutar
[01:26] <Quutar> i am trying to test the performance of an application... and was informed by someone to try those optuions... i don't think it will make a difference... but i need to do the due dilligence
[01:27] <xbonesx> Dulak: those are the instruction given with the files...
[01:27] <grml> hellp
[01:27] <grml> hello
[01:27] <Dulak> xbonesx: you almost always want the p, I don't remember the last time I used cp without -p
[01:27] <grml> I am new to ubuntu.  Coming from rpm-based.
[01:27] <Dulak> xbonesx: it might not matter at all for those files, but you can always change perms later if it makes a difference
[01:28] <grml> I set up ubuntu server and moved it to a new environment.  I couldn't get networking up.  I uninstalled kvm as it was not needed.  Now I have no network device.
[01:28] <grml> Please help me to get this online.
[01:28] <grml> all ifconfig lists is lo for network devices.
[01:28] <Quutar> jrib... I am not overwriting the gcc in the OS... I am using the --prefix=/home/quu/gcc and even then... this is in a virtualbox install of ubuntu
[01:29] <jrib> Quutar: that's fine, did you try what that page suggests?
[01:29] <grml> btw: I am using ubuntu server.  No gui.
[01:29] <Quutar> yea... i actually read that page before I began
[01:30] <Quutar> it was really helpful (I did not know about the apt-get build-dep)
[01:30] <Hidekazu2> -.-. --.-
[01:31] <jrib> Quutar: make sure you can rebuild the gcc that's in the repositories first
[01:32] <xbonesx> Dulak: do you by chance know what the perms for the files should be?
[01:32] <xbonesx> Dulak: or a way i can find out?
[01:33] <tdroid> Anyone know how to fix wireless on 10.04 for an Aspire One? I'm getting CRC errors on everything I download.
[01:33] <Dulak> xbonesx: typically they are set correctly when you extract them from a tar/zip, etc.  That's why I said you almost always want the -p on a cp operation
[01:34] <jrib> !away > remczas|off
[01:34] <xbonesx> Dulak: sounds good i will do so, ty for your help
[01:34] <naptastic> Is there a trick to virtualizing Ubuntu Lucid? My VM will start booting the installer but die before starting the GUI.
[01:36] <Dulak> naptastic: what version of ubuntu?
[01:36] <Quutar> jrib, how do i get the source that is in the repository for gcc?
[01:36] <jrib> Quutar: apt-get source PACKAGE
[01:36] <naptastic> Dulak, Host and guest are both 10.04. Host is x86_64 and guest is i386.
[01:37] <tdroid> naptastic, Which virtual machine? I've installed Ubuntu in VirtualBox
[01:37] <multipass> anyone elses browser crash when u right click on flash?
[01:37] <Jordan_U> mcgyber0o0: Did it work?
[01:37] <naptastic> tdroid, QEMU using virt-manager as root
[01:37] <mcgyber0o0> no
[01:37] <mcgyber0o0> grub says no such device
[01:38] <Dulak> naptastic: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ubuntu_as_Guest_OS
[01:38] <naptastic> Dulak, Thank you!!!
[01:38] <zulax> i dont have /dev/cdrom...
[01:38] <zulax> so is it not installed?
[01:38] <Dulak> naptastic: might have a pointer or two that'll help, it's aimed at virtualbox though
[01:38] <ugliefrog> is ther away to chang the /tmp area to another partition
[01:39] <grml> never mind about the missing nic.  It got renamed to eth2.  Now, I can still not get on line.  Can not find route.
[01:39] <Quutar> hum... i can see gcc in the lucid package list - http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/gcc - but when i try to download the source, it tells me gcc-common
[01:39] <grml> I mean gateway
[01:39] <jrib> Quutar: what are you typing?
[01:40] <Quutar> quu@linux-dev:~$ sudo apt-get source gcc
[01:40] <Quutar> Reading package lists... Done
[01:40] <Quutar> Building dependency tree
[01:40] <Quutar> Reading state information... Done
[01:40] <Quutar> Picking 'gcc-defaults' as source package instead of 'gcc'
[01:40] <FloodBot1> Quutar: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:40] <VCoolio> ugliefrog: sure; create the partition, empty existing /tmp, then mount partition to /tmp
[01:40] <jrib> Quutar: you likely want gcc-4.4 or similar
[01:40] <jrib> Quutar: and no point in sudo...
[01:41] <Quutar> that worked, thank you
[01:41] <Dulak> naptastic: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2004-September/000189.html
[01:41] <VCoolio> ugliefrog: and create a line in /etc/fstab so it will get mounted automatically at boot
[01:41] <Dulak> naptastic: old but might have info that'll help
[01:42] <Jordan_U> mcgyber0o0: Can you run boot info script as explained here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1291280 and pastebin the RESULTS.txt ?
[01:42] <ugliefrog> VCoolio, when you say emty do you mean delete everyrhing inside?
[01:42] <VCoolio> ugliefrog: yes, or backup if you need it
[01:42] <mcgyber0o0> sure one sec
[01:42] <Name141> Where do I edit the boot configs ? I don't see that option in /etc/default/grub
[01:43] <naptastic> Dulak, thank you :-)
[01:43] <ugliefrog> VCoolio, Ok im off to get a whirl...luck for me
[01:43] <Name141> Isn't there a grub.cfg somewhere ?
[01:44] <grml> SO, thanks for nothing. Jerks!
[01:44] <Jordan_U> Name141: What option are  you looking for?
[01:44] <Dulak> That was funny.
[01:44] <Name141> Jordan_U: I just removed sda1 (which was NTFS and WindowsXP.) to ext4 and more free space.  So I need to remove the option to boot in to WindowsXP
[01:44] <Name141> From the menu
[01:44] <Jordan_U> Name141: "sudo update-grub"
[01:44] <naptastic> Name141, usually /boot/grub/grub.cfg however it's generated automatically and any changes you make will be lost whenever you (ie) install a new kernel
[01:45] <Name141> Jordan_U: It'll do it itself ?
[01:45] <Jordan_U> Name141: Yes.
[01:45] <mcgyber0o0> http://paste.ubuntu.com/501845/
[01:45] <Name141> Jordan_U: Ok, I'll see what happens
[01:46] <Name141> Jordan_U: it removed itself.
[01:46] <Name141> Jordan_U: however, how do I change the countdown time?
[01:46] <Braber01> um is there a way to have ubuntu use the Termnal as a login prompt / then use a command to get to my desktop?
[01:48] <tdroid> Braber01, edit /etc/init/gdb.conf and add "and never" after filesystem
[01:48] <Jordan_U> Name141: When no other OSs are detected (i.e. only the one Ubuntu install) the timeout is automatically changed to 0 (hold shift during boot to see the menu). You can override this default timeout in /etc/default/grub (be sure to run "sudo update-grub" after making changes to that file).
[01:48] <tdroid> Braber01, then use "startx" to get to your desktop
[01:49] <Braber01> tdroid: to edit that I need to use sudoedit right?
[01:50] <Name141> Jordan_U: I'm assuming GRUB_TIMEOUT=10 is the time to change
[01:50] <Jordan_U> Name141: Yes.
[01:50] <mcgyber0o0> Jordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu.com/501845/
[01:51] <Jordan_U> Name141: Here is the list of options for /etc/default/grub : http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Simple-configuration
[01:53] <Name141> Jordan_U: OK.  I just hope the OS doesn't break, the CD-RW finally croked over earlier today after install.
[01:53] <Jordan_U> mcgyber0o0: Odd. I don't see anything wrong.
[01:53] <Name141> and the machine is from 1999, so there's no USB boot option
[01:53] <Jordan_U> Name141: Boot floppy :)
[01:54] <Name141> Jordan_U: the floppy drive might still work, I have no idea lol
[01:54] <Braber01> I add never in the line that says "start on (filesystem" right?
[01:54] <mcgyber0o0> jordan_U: well someone bout a year ago told me to input some text into the grub file and that fixed it. Sound familiar? he said it wasn't loading something it should and whatever i typed fixed it.
[01:54] <docsy> anyone here managed to get tor to work with xchat?
[01:55] <Jordan_U> mcgyber0o0: Ahh, I think that was me actually and I see the problem now :)
[01:55] <Name141> I'd have to get some
[01:55] <Name141> all I know is it goes "grr.. " still
[01:55] <mcgyber0o0> really *_*
[01:56] <Braber01> I'll be back
[01:56] <zachlr> #ubuntu-unregged always asks me the same question; it doesn't really serve any purpose then.
[01:56] <Jordan_U> mcgyber0o0: Add "GRUB_PRELOAD_MODULES=part_msdos" to /etc/default/grub then run "sudo update-grub".
[01:56] <mcgyber0o0> i think that was it. what does this actually do?
[01:58] <mcgyber0o0> Jordan_u: where should i add it?
[01:58] <Jordan_U> mcgyber0o0: It makes grub load support for reading msdos partition tables. Because Ubuntu isn't using an msdos partition table (using GPT instead) it doesn't by default.
[01:58] <Jordan_U> mcgyber0o0: Anywhere. To the end will work.
[01:59] <mcgyber0o0> i see it says something in gparted about that not being able to load GPT.
[01:59] <dominicdinada> well what the hell
[01:59] <Braber01> okay I tried adding never to what ever file that was with out using sudoedit I'm going to need the name of the config file again
[01:59] <Braber01> and path to
[01:59] <Jordan_U> mcgyber0o0: In Ubuntu 10.10 this won't be needed (but having it also won't hurt, so don't worry about it breaking things on upgrade).
[02:00] <mcgyber0o0> how do i edit the file?
[02:00] <Weapon_X> hats up all
[02:00] <dominicdinada> has anybody installed lame 3.98.4 in here? mine wont install it says i am missing an operand :/
[02:00] <Weapon_X> mcgyber0o0, what file
[02:00] <Jordan_U> mcgyber0o0: gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub
[02:01] <mcgyber0o0> thanks
[02:01] <aemaeth> what's the easiest way to get my server acting as a proxy?
[02:01] <xbonesx> Jordan_U: found out why i couldnt get the plymouth boot screen to change its res...
[02:01] <Weapon_X> whats the differnece with gksudo and sudo
[02:01] <VCoolio> !gksudo | Weapon_X
[02:02] <Braber01> I hate to ask the question I allredy have answered again but I want to use a termnal as a login screen and not to show my desktop and use startx etc what file to i need to edit where is it and what do I add?
[02:02] <Braber01> and where do i need to add it?
[02:02] <Braber01> the first time didn't work
[02:03] <Weapon_X> really I always use sudo
[02:03] <Jordan_U> !gksudo | Weapon_X
[02:03] <dominicdinada> !server | aemaeth
[02:03] <ZykoticK9> Braber01, you could see my note for disabling gdm at http://sites.google.com/site/alucidfs/how-i-do/boot-to-console---disable-graphical-login-gdm
[02:03] <aemaeth> Braber01: you mean the grub change?
[02:03] <jrib> Braber01: what do you mean "the first time didn't work"?
[02:04] <Habstinat> Help, my windows are not functioning properly and I can only copy and paste into a terminal for some reason. This happens with every window I open. See http://oi54.tinypic.com/11b6uxe.jpg , as that's a pic I took of it.
[02:04] <Aliv3> hi
[02:04] <Aliv3> im not a troll
[02:04] <jrib> Aliv3: good to hear.
[02:04] <Guest92324> i don't believe u
[02:04] <dominicdinada> i am a troll because i have not gotten the answers i seek
[02:05] <ZykoticK9> !ot
[02:05] <Braber01> ameth no, I wanted a text only logint prompt
[02:06] <Guest92324> where would i find support for licensed codecs?
[02:06] <Habstinat> Has anyone ever gotten a problem similar to mine? It almost makes my machine unusable if I can't type into a terminal.
[02:06] <aemaeth> Guest92324: did you add the restricted package in synaptic?
[02:06] <xbonesx> Jordan_U: startupmanager, definitely had something to do with it, i re-installed ubuntu and the link http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Fix-the-Big-and-Ugly-Plymouth-Logo-in-Ubuntu-10-04-140810.shtml worked just fine
[02:06] <dominicdinada> Bah how should i install just the lame codecs for ffmpeg not the gui or front end ?
[02:06] <Hidekazu2> -.-. --.-
[02:06] <Hidekazu2> -.-. --.-
[02:06] <FloodBot3> Hidekazu2: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:07] <jrib> Hidekazu2: please stop doing that
[02:07] <Aliv3> guys
[02:07] <Weapon_X> ok the gksudo command is hanging
[02:07] <Aliv3> idk what to choose im trying to install ubuntu server
[02:07] <Weapon_X> in the command line
[02:07] <Braber01> okay I've done it startx to see my desktop right?
[02:07] <xbonesx> Weapon_X: try "gksu"
[02:08] <dominicdinada> Aliv3: #ubuntu-server
[02:08] <ymasory> hi all. i deleted a user and now my system is screwed. sda1 is being mounted read-only
[02:08] <xbonesx> Weapon_X: its what i use when i want to use a gfx menu with root privs
[02:08] <Habstinat> Guys, can anyone help me out here? I can't even use a bunch of programs because of it.
[02:08] <Weapon_X> xbonesx, still the same
[02:08] <Braber01> I'll be back and tell you guys if it worked
[02:08] <jrib> !helpme | Habstinat
[02:08] <Weapon_X> xbonesx, it is still hanging
[02:08] <xbonesx> Weapon_X: restart terminal and try again
[02:08] <dominicdinada> ymasory: that is horrible :D what user did you delete Root ?
[02:08] <Weapon_X> I did twice
[02:08] <mcgyber0o0> jordan_U: what was the instructions on that again?
[02:08] <ZykoticK9> Habstinat, try "compiz --replace" and/or "metacity --replace" from alt+f2
[02:08] <dominicdinada> ymasory: Daemon ?
[02:09] <Weapon_X> I should just use sudo
[02:09] <xbonesx> Weapon_X: what ubuntu are you using?
[02:09] <ymasory> dominicdinada: nope just a random user
[02:09] <xbonesx> Weapon_X: livecd?
[02:09] <Weapon_X> 10.04
[02:09] <Weapon_X> no
[02:09] <Weapon_X> xbonesx, installed
[02:09] <xbonesx> how are you accessing terminal?
[02:09] <ymasory> now i start, it hangs a bit after login, gnome tells me a few applets crashed (like user switcher), and then everything is read-only
[02:09] <Weapon_X> applicationbs accessories
[02:09] <Weapon_X> terminal
[02:09] <Habstinat> ZykoticK9, alt-f2 does nothing.
[02:09] <ymasory> i'm not a fstab expert but it seems normal. nothing is specified as read-only
[02:09] <xbonesx> Weapon_X: huh... never heard of that, have you done much changing to the system?
[02:10] <ZykoticK9> Habstinat, then from a terminal (you'll need to leave it open though)
[02:10] <Weapon_X> no
[02:10] <Weapon_X> I did have an issue today
[02:10] <dominicdinada> ymasory: that random user sounds like not just any random user
[02:10] <Weapon_X> with ICEauthority
[02:10] <Weapon_X> pain in the as
[02:10] <Weapon_X> s
[02:10] <Habstinat> I can't though, like I said I can only copy and paste text into a terminal, and for some reason you can't copy/paste from Xchat?
[02:11] <Weapon_X> omg sorry this is ubuntu desktop, just realized what room im in
[02:11] <mcgyber0o0> Jordan_U: Is this right? GRUB_PRELOAD_MODULES=part_msdos
[02:11] <xbonesx> Weapon_X: hahaha well my solution to everything is re-installing lol i use another partition for extra files and only have a 20gb partition for ubuntu
[02:11] <Habstinat> Wait, I have an idea. I'll try entering that into a browser and then copying that.
[02:11] <ymasory> dominicdinada: i promise :) it was my dad. i made him an account for the weekend. regular desktop user
[02:11] <dominicdinada> Bah how should i install just the lame codecs for ffmpeg not the gui or front end ?  doesnt seem to want to install i did make and make install :/
[02:11] <xbonesx> Weapon_X: server?
[02:11] <Weapon_X> xbonesx, no desktop
[02:11] <Jordan_U> mcgyber0o0: Yes.
[02:11] <jrib> dominicdinada: why aren't you using apt?
[02:11] <xbonesx> Weapon_X: this is were you want to be then...
[02:12] <mcgyber0o0> Jordan_U: do i need to run Grub-install?
[02:12] <dominicdinada> jrib: ffmpeg requires lame 3.98.3 >=
[02:12] <Weapon_X> oh ok
[02:12] <Tweaky> anyone know a good place to pastebin a screenshot?
[02:12] <jrib> dominicdinada: ok, and my question?
[02:12] <dominicdinada> jrib apt lame 3.98.2  and 2 years old
[02:12] <dublisk> Hi, vncserver seems to be running yet ps -ef | grep vnc shows nothing
[02:12] <xbonesx> Tweaky: i use imageshack.us
[02:12] <jrib> dominicdinada: you're still not answering my question :/
[02:13] <Tweaky> xbonesx: thanks
[02:13] <xbonesx> Tweaky: np :)
[02:13] <Braber01> okay I got the thing fixed now how can I get this thing to unlock my keyring when I log in so I can use irssi after logging in?
[02:13] <dominicdinada> jrib: i think i answered the question two times already jrib
[02:13] <jrib> dominicdinada: you didn't
[02:13] <Habstinat> ZykoticK9, Well, that sort of worked. I have my window tops back, but I don't have a top or bottom bar now.
[02:13] <xbonesx> Tweaky: after the image has uploaded just choose the direct url link for pasting in the IRC channel
[02:13] <jrib> dominicdinada: you keep telling me versions of lame for some reason.  I have no clue what you mean to imply with that
[02:14] <zruty> When I stick in a network PC card in my laptop how cna I make it show up as eth1 instead of eth2? eth0 is the built-in interface.
[02:14] <dominicdinada> apt version = 3.98.2    ffmpeg required versions is 3.98.3 or greater i guess those greater than or equal signs throw us all from time to time
[02:14] <Habstinat> Any idea of what could be causing this?
[02:14] <ZykoticK9> Habstinat, try running gnome-panel then?
[02:14] <ZykoticK9> Habstinat, was it the metacity that worked?
[02:14] <jrib> dominicdinada: are you trying to tell me that you get some sort of error with apt regarding versions?
[02:14] <Rotham> hey
[02:14] <Braber01> question on how to change font size @ login
[02:14] <dominicdinada> jrib:  when i try to install ffmpeg
[02:14] <Rotham> whats the default location for svn to check files out to?
[02:15] <Zelfje> ffmpeg one copy paste intall: tested it yesterday  http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=9114176&postcount=967
[02:15] <Habstinat> No, the compiz one.
[02:15] <jrib> dominicdinada: pastebin exactly what you execute and the full output
[02:15] <dominicdinada> jrib:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=786095 step 4 i will install again and pastebin
[02:15] <Habstinat> ZykoticK9, "Cannot register the panel shell: there is already one running."
[02:15] <Braber01> well I'm off to go surf the interwebs bye
[02:15] <jrib> dominicdinada: you're compiling things that are in the repositories :/
[02:16] <ZykoticK9> Habstinat, killall gnome-panel then?
[02:16] <Habstinat> ZykoticK9, That seemed to fix things. Thanks a lot.
[02:17] <ZykoticK9> Habstinat, glad to help
[02:17] <dominicdinada> jrib: http://pastebin.com/QwvLkTrG
[02:17] <ZykoticK9> Habstinat, can you type in terminals again?
[02:18] <dublisk> I can vnc into my machine, but ps -ef | grep vnc shows nothing
[02:18] <jrib> dominicdinada: you're compiling things that are in the repositories.  Why?
[02:18] <dublisk> How is this possible ?
[02:18] <dublisk> I want to completely shut down all vnc
[02:18]  * jrib notes we're back to my first question
[02:18] <dominicdinada> jrib: hmmm ffmpeg is outdated
[02:19] <jrib> dominicdinada: what doesn't the ffmpeg in repositories do that you need?
[02:19] <dominicdinada> jrib: following a howto on the ubuntu community site
[02:19] <multipass> can i install nvidia drivers inside gnome?
[02:19] <jrib> dominicdinada: just because some puts something up on the forums doesn't mean everyone should do it
[02:19] <dominicdinada> jrib: see second answer Following the howto of the ubuntu community
[02:20] <VCoolio> multipass: no, use tty / virtual console
[02:20] <ymasory> multipass: yes go to system -> administration -> hardware drivers
[02:20] <multipass> well no these are official from website
[02:20] <jrib> dominicdinada: I'm asking *you*
[02:20] <dominicdinada> jrib: is there another ?
[02:20] <jrib> dominicdinada: what?  another what?
[02:20] <dominicdinada> jrib: howto in regards to get ffmpeg installed correctly
[02:20] <Habstinat> ZykoticK9, I could do that ever since I typed in compiz --replace.
[02:21] <jrib> dominicdinada: yeah, use apt.  Then you won't have these headaches
[02:21] <dominicdinada> jrib aptitude*
[02:21] <ZykoticK9> Habstinat, hummm strange.  glad you got it working.
[02:21] <jrib> dominicdinada: whatever apt frontend you want
[02:22] <dominicdinada> jrib: I thought i went this route before.
[02:22] <ZykoticK9> Habstinat, FYI you might be interested in fusion-icon it gives an icon to switch between compiz/metacity & has a reload windows manager button
[02:22] <jrib> dominicdinada: not sure what that means...
[02:23] <ZykoticK9> dominicdinada, the point that jrib is dancing around, why are YOU using the compiled version of things instead of the repository versions?
[02:24] <dominicdinada> ZykoticK9: The point that I made clear is most of the repo versions are way outdated
[02:24] <ZykoticK9> !latest | dominicdinada
[02:24] <Habstinat> ZykoticK9, thanks, I'll try that out.
[02:24] <dominicdinada> ZykoticK9: of course i knew that was the point, As i said about 4 times... The versions are super old
[02:24] <jrib> dominicdinada: good luck with your issue.  My suggestion is you use the repositories, get rid of whatever you compiled, and try to stick with the repositories in the future
[02:25] <Braber01> question-> now that I have a text-based login how can I get my keyring actvated? or whatever you call it on login so I don't have to "startx" to go online
[02:25] <eross> do i need to disable compiz to play opengl games? a couple of windowed games seem to shear, no smooth movement
[02:25] <anand> add startx in .bashrc
[02:25] <icarus-c> anand, don't do that
[02:25] <anand> Braber01, add startx to .bashrc
[02:25] <Braber01> um no I don't want to automaticaly login like that
[02:25] <dominicdinada> ZykoticK9: jrib: and not to be smug i didn't ask how to install ffmpeg i asked why even after my lame make and make install all went smooth. Why it wouldnt install
[02:26] <ZykoticK9> Braber01, you'd need some method of configuring your wireless without nm-applet (the gnome application), you'd either have to use some manual network magic, or perhaps use wicd (IF it has a non-gui application)
[02:26] <anand> icarus-c, y????
[02:26] <icarus-c> anand, that will be executed everytime you run bash(e.g starting a new gnome-terminal instance)
[02:26] <aperson> would chmod -x /etc/init.d/gdm make my computer boot straight to a tty?
[02:26] <anand> icarus-c, oh yes everytime we open terminal it happens... right??
[02:26] <icarus-c> anand, exactly
[02:26] <rww> !info wicd-curses | ZykoticK9, Braber01
[02:26] <lhx> you need to add it to .xinitrc
[02:26] <lhx> lol
[02:27] <ZykoticK9> dominicdinada, which isn't really an "ubuntu" support question is it?  you might want to be asking the people that right lame (but they'll direct you back here - catch-22 situation)
[02:27] <rww> cnetworkmanager is nice too, but I don't think Lucid has it.
[02:27] <anand> icarus-c, then wer shud we add to execute at login
[02:27] <icarus-c> lhx, not really.. cause startx runs xinitrc
[02:27] <lhx> oh...
[02:27] <lhx> i didn't read very far back
[02:27] <ZykoticK9> rww, thanks :)
[02:27] <lhx> though someone was trying to use .bashrc to start x
[02:27] <Braber01> I guess I'll ask my aunt then :(
[02:27] <drewbert> Anybody here have any experience getting netflix to work in virtualbox?  The video stays paused at whichever frame I seek to, and will never play.
[02:27] <mamece2> hello fellas
[02:27] <dominicdinada> ZykoticK9: and out of the 1500 active users in here i am sure that 30% of so have built and installed lame 3.98.4  for ffmpeg
[02:28] <rww> dominicdinada: I highly doubt that.
[02:28] <ZykoticK9> dominicdinada, me too
[02:28] <lhx> dominicdinada: i doubt that too... what's the point of running ubuntu if you're going to compile shit?
[02:28] <essial> Hey the people in #mac said it was dangerous to run Ubuntu 10.04 on a new iMac as it doesn't handle the fans correctly
[02:28] <essial> is this true or not
[02:28] <rww> especially considering that in the two years I've been here, I've never once seen people ask about compiling lame
[02:28] <IdleOne> !language | lhx
[02:28] <craigbass1976> essial, they might just be mac biggots...
[02:28] <dominicdinada> lhx:  your correct why not just go back to windows right ?
[02:29] <dominicdinada> lhx: or mac
[02:29] <essial> craigbass: I really really like ubuntu and want to use it on my new computer as I did on my PC
[02:29] <hiexpo> :)
[02:29]  * lhx didn't realize it was family friendly... apologies
[02:29] <essial> I just don't wanna burn up the hardware
[02:29] <lhx> dominicdinada: there's a bit of difference... and what's wrong with mac?
[02:29] <lhx> dominicdinada: I would not be picking a debian-based distro if i was going to compile a lot of things on my own
[02:29] <craigbass1976> essial, what's googling turned up for you?  Did you get membership in any mac forums when you bought the box?  Surely someone has tried it and wrote something about it
[02:29] <lhx> dominicdinada: that's all I meant
[02:30] <essial> I mean I have it running on my iMac right now
[02:30] <essial> I know linux very well, and no, google isn't saying much either way
[02:30] <dominicdinada> lhx:  was being facetious but now that you mention it. MACS have had the most Reported security flaws the last 2 years :D
[02:30] <lhx> essial: go get one of the free temp monitors...
[02:30] <craigbass1976> essial, have you got lmsensors installed?
[02:30] <essial> no, i'll install that
[02:30] <nomasteryoda> wow... a flood bot
[02:31] <Flynsarmy> When installing latest ubuntu I copied a bunch of repositories into my sources.list apt file. As a result I have several that aren't authenticated properly and can't use teh GUI updator - can only do it from the command line. How can I force them to authenticate?
[02:31] <lhx> dominicdinada: well... I like mac as a desktop... can't stand it as a server.
[02:31] <craigbass1976> essial, there are a couple, you may have to try more than one (not all can communicate with all boards) and just keep an eye on your temps for a while
[02:31] <icarus-c> essial, you just need to run sensors and verify fan speed (if available) and cpu temp
[02:31] <dominicdinada> lhx:  afterall MAC is a *mix
[02:31] <icarus-c> essial, and maybe hddtemp too
[02:31] <essial> well honestly, my mac runs scary hot even in OSX :p
[02:31] <dominicdinada> *nix even
[02:31] <ZykoticK9> lhx, dominicdinada the Mac conversation is OT here
[02:31] <anand> everything is from UNIX although ...........
[02:31] <craigbass1976> essial, and if you can, find out what the temps and fan speeds are supposed to be, according to Mac
[02:31] <icarus-c> Mach + NetBSD ~= Mac OS X :P
[02:31] <essial> i'm talking 73c for the "power supply sensor"
[02:32] <essial> thanks goodness I didn't buy it for gaming
[02:32] <craigbass1976> essial, I've got a dell like that, but it's bacause one of the heat sinks got loose on a quick trip down some stairs...
[02:32] <lhx> ZykoticK9: i bet you feel REALLY powerful huh?
[02:32] <essial> well although I CAN open it up I really don't want to until I pass the standard warranty period
[02:33] <dominicdinada> lhx:  dont get banned :/
[02:33] <craigbass1976> essial, no, everything is probably fine.  I knew somethign was up with mine because it was hot, I knew I dropped it, and something rattled that didn't used to.
[02:33] <essial> Is it OT? I was asking about running ubuntu on it
[02:33] <lhx> essial: Both OSX and run something CPU intensive... see what that temp is sand see what the fan rate is and then make sure ubuntu doesn't go over that
[02:33] <essial> good I loves me some ubuntu
[02:33] <craigbass1976> essial, I think there's another mac conversation going on that's not about ubuntu
[02:34] <ZykoticK9> essial, you mac issue isn't OT, but the conversation surrounding macs is :)
[02:34] <essial> ah ok :)
[02:34] <lhx> dominicdinada: no intention of getting banned... sometimes the anal retentive types really grind my gears
[02:34] <essial> well what am I doing in OSX, i'm rebooting again :p
[02:34] <rww> your discussion of what is and isn't OT is OT, this is Ubuntu support, not Ubuntu support metadiscussion.
[02:34] <craigbass1976> essial, see you later
[02:34] <mazda01> i have an ALC888 and my microphone input device just disappears. I can see it in pavucontrol and then all of a sudden it's gone. Can some help please?
[02:35] <lhx> rww: your informing us of something OT being OT being OT... is also... *gasp* OT
[02:35] <rww> it's offtopic all the way down :(
[02:36] <Jon--> I am having trouble compiling g++ code with some libraries. What do I need to add to $PATH, or ensure is already there?
[02:36] <lhx> Jon--: have you installed "build-essentials"
[02:37] <ZykoticK9> Jon--, the package is named build-essential actually
[02:38] <Jon--> ZykoticK9: lhx: Yes
[02:38] <Doyle> Started using a mail client for hte first time in years. Evolution. Is there a way to set it up so that it minimizes to tray instead of closing? The goal is to be have the new mail notification activate even when the window is closed. Thanks.
[02:40] <ZykoticK9> Doyle, that would be a cool feature (i've never heard of that option in evolution, or a plugin that does that though)  hope someone gives ya an answer ;)
[02:40] <drewbert> Anybody here have any experience getting netflix to work in virtualbox?  The video stays paused at whichever frame I seek to, and will never play.
[02:40] <anand> Doyle, install a gmail notifier gadget
[02:40] <Doyle> anand: have any favorites?
[02:40] <Gimped> Doyle: not sure if this is what you're looking for but you can always use "docker" or "trayer" for minimize to tray features
[02:41] <lhx> ZykoticK9: touche touche
[02:41] <Doyle> Gimped: sounds promising, I'll give em a go
[02:42] <Doyle> ZykoticK9: someone'll add it eventually. Usability and options are what gives one client the edge over others.
[02:43] <ZykoticK9> Doyle, gmailwatcher was featured in webup8 the other week, it seem pretty good for gmail notifications
[02:44] <ZykoticK9> Doyle, link http://www.webupd8.org/2010/09/gmailwatcher-gmail-notifier-especially.html
[02:44] <Hidekazu2> -.-. --.-
[02:44] <ugliefrog> i need to know how to change the /tmp area to my new parttion..is it a command for the terminal
[02:44] <Dr_Willis> Yea. that 'mail' icon in the notification area is supposed to be the way mail apps 'notify' users now a day.
[02:44] <Dr_Willis> ugliefrog:  mount /tmp to the new location. a fstab entry would be the normal way to set it up at boot time.
[02:45] <Jon--> I am having trouble compiling g++ code with some libraries. What do I need to add to $PATH, or ensure is already there?
[02:45] <ZykoticK9> ugliefrog, Dr_Willis's fstab point is an important one, if you always want it to mount to the same spot, add it to the fstab file
[02:45] <Dr_Willis> Hmm here i seem to have... (from mount)
[02:45] <Dr_Willis> tmpfs on /tmp type tmpfs (rw,noatime,mode=1777)
[02:45] <Dr_Willis> Im not sure how tmpfs differs from tmp...
[02:46] <ugliefrog> ZykoticK9, im trying to find out how do it online
[02:46] <vbgunz> im really at a lost in grub atm. How do I add a dummy entry to 40_custom **so** that it's a dummy **but** shows up in the grub menu as a sort of aesthetic category title? It serves no other purpose. just a title that when you click on it, it does nothing. How?
[02:46] <ZykoticK9> Dr_Willis, i don't have tmpfs mounted or listed in my fstab...
[02:47] <Dr_Willis> ZykoticK9:  this is my 10.10 test box i  just now remebred..
[02:47] <anand> question -->> can u explain the diff bet git,(apt-get,dpkg)  <<--
[02:47] <Dr_Willis> some info on tmp --> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=660872
[02:47] <ZykoticK9> Dr_Willis, ;)
[02:48] <Dr_Willis> ZykoticK9:  and i did see a 'trick' the other day i tried out to put some tmp/logs on the tmpfs to get a speed booost.. that may bee a letf over from that experiment
[02:49] <anand> can anyone explain what is a "git" ????
[02:49]  * naptastic sighs deeply
[02:49] <naptastic> anand, git is a distributed version control system.
[02:49] <ZykoticK9> Dr_Willis, i didn't recognize the tmpfs when you mentioned it, so i went looking.  my main hd failed the other week, so i lost my 10.10 since alpha1 partition :(
[02:50] <ramontayag> anand, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Git_(software)
[02:50] <anand> naptastic, it has any relation with installing packages
[02:50] <ramontayag> auto linking doesn't work properly here (for me) so you may need to copy and paste the whole thing
[02:50] <naptastic> anand, only obliquely. Git is useful (as far as the end user is concerned) for downloading source code so you can compile it yourself.
[02:50] <naptastic> anand, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Git_%28software%29
[02:51] <anand> naptastic, thanks 4 the link
[02:51] <naptastic> anand, no problem. And now I'm off to see if I can permanently break my internet access.
[02:51] <anand> naptastic, y????
[02:52] <kneaux> that's awesome timing. my buddy was literally just telling me to look into git
[02:52] <kneaux> in fact, ben?
[02:52] <DarkRedman> Hu
[02:52] <naptastic> anand, it's complicated... my libvirtd is broken and I don't know if the server it's running on can be fixed.
[02:53] <sparrW> Seemingly at random my screensaver fails to start after the designated length of inactivity. How can I tell what is causing that?
[02:53] <DarkRedman> I've a big issue with Ubuntu, I can't login any account since my .Private folder (for ecryptfs) has been emptied due to a bad help from #ubuntu-fr
[02:53] <Sunderphon> Is it possible to install anaglyphic 3D output on nvidia cards on linux?
[02:54] <sparrW> Sunderphon: it was ten years ago. probably still now.
[02:54] <cowbud> I am trying to get a preeseed to install grub on the second hard drive. i.e. /dev/sdb. I am bootstrapping the preseed file with a usb stick and every time I load no matter if I have hd(1,0) or /dev/sdb in my grub-installer/bootdev but when I boot and install the usb device is seen as drive 0 and is always installed to. Any ideas?
[02:54] <Sunderphon> sparrW, what?
[02:55] <DarkRedman> Is there anyway to get support service from Canonical without paying for one year ?! It's just to fix some problems.
[02:55] <sparrW> Sunderphon: ten years ago it was possible to do analglyph stereo 3d on nvidia cards in linux. based on that, I would expect it to still be possible
[02:55] <Zelfje> Sunderphon: please elaborate anaglyphic 3D with link
[02:55] <sparrW> Zelfje: red/green
[02:55] <anand> am having following error .........................
[02:55] <anand> W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://cz.archive.ubuntu.com maverick/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/cz.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_maverick_main_binary-i386_Packages)
[02:55] <anand> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[02:55] <Zelfje> ah no blue
[02:55] <FloodBot2> anand: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:55] <Sunderphon> Anaglyphic isn't just red/green
[02:56] <Zelfje> ic stereo gogles
[02:56] <Sunderphon> Actually, usually it's red/blue
[02:56] <sparrW> it could be red/blue too
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> anand:  its just a warning like it says.. you have some duplicate lines in your apt/sources.list or /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[02:56] <sparrW> it could even be yellow/purple
[02:56] <detrix42> does dvd::rip have an IRC?  if so what server?
[02:56] <sileni> hello everyone
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> anand:  it shouldnt affect the system. just a annoying warning.
[02:57] <anand> Dr_Willis, should i remove those lines manually??
[02:57] <Sunderphon> which is my situation. I want to output the graphics for a game with anaglyphic (red/blue ana) graphics. I've read online that it's possible on windows, but I'm not sure how to do it on linux
[02:57] <DarkRedman> No one have any idea ?
[02:57] <Zelfje> if the specific nvidia card is suported ic no reason why not (nvidea has good *nix drivers)
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> anand:  theres repo tools in synaptic...  you could use.. or edit the files by hand..
[02:58] <anand> Dr_Willis, ok will try now
[02:58] <Dr_Willis> anand:  you really shouldent be adding new entries to /etc/apt/sources.list  instead use the files in /etc/apt/apt.sources.d
[02:58] <Sunderphon> Zelfje, I can't find drivers that support it is the thing. I'm using a GTS 250, if it helps any. I don't know where to look. The Nvidia site mentions nothing about it
[02:58] <Loshki> detrix42: I don't believe so. It has a searchable mailing list though. Try here: http://www.exit1.org/dvdrip/support.cipp  And you can ask here, of course...
[02:58] <Dr_Willis> anand:  its not a big deal really. You could just leave it a lone.
[02:58] <DarkRedman> HELP
[02:58] <anand> Dr_Willis, ok
[02:58] <Dr_Willis> !encryptfs
[02:59] <Loshki> Dr_Willis: why is editing /etc/apt/apt.sources.d better than editing /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[02:59] <detrix42> Loshki: I was just there, I did not see any irc reference, but I did not think about searching the mailinglist...thanks
[02:59] <vbgunz> im really at a lost in grub atm. How do I add a dummy entry to 40_custom **so** that it's a dummy **but** shows up in the grub menu as a sort of aesthetic category title? It serves no other purpose. just a title that when you click on it, it does nothing. How?
[02:59] <waaade> so when i run rtorren & in terminal it immediately stops instead of running as a daemon.  Does anyone know why?
[03:00] <sparrW> Sunderphon: I believe I was using the Quadro drivers to do it
[03:00] <Dr_Willis> Loshki:  because you cant accidently trash your sourcves.list file then.. the whole point of the sources.d setup is so you dont have to mess with the main config file..
[03:00] <lhx> waaade: or you could just run rtorrent inside of a screen session
[03:00] <Dr_Willis> Loshki:  and its much easier to add/remove single entries by making a single file. then messing with the bigger file.
[03:00] <Loshki> Dr_Willis: I see, thanks...
[03:00] <Sunderphon> sparrW, link?
[03:00] <waaade> what is screen?
[03:01] <rww> !screen
[03:01] <Dr_Willis> Loshki:  every tutorial/wiki/blog i see that say to edit sources.list should be using the sources.list.d method :)
[03:01] <sparrW> Sunderphon: http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/173.14.09/README/appendix-b.html search for "stereo"
[03:01] <Dr_Willis> Loshki:  i always post a comment on such sites as i find them
[03:02] <sparrW> rww: I once used a "window manager" for terminal sessions that provided an ncurses(like) GUI for handling smaller "windows" that could be moved and overlap and such. any idea what that was? kicked screen's butt.
[03:02] <anand> how to fix broken packages??
[03:02] <Loshki> Dr_Willis: it's always annoyed me to have multiple places to configure stuff, but your rationale seems reasonable...
[03:02] <Dr_Willis> Loshki:  I find it more annoying when 100 differnt things try to alter the same very critical config file..
[03:02] <Sunderphon> sparrW, it's not that kind of 3D. It's the coloured red/blue 3D I'm looking for
[03:03] <rww> sparrW: no idea, sorrt
[03:03] <sparrW> Sunderphon: yes, it would appear at first glance that that option has been removed
[03:03] <rww> sorry **
[03:03] <Dr_Willis> Loshki:  the apt settings files have a similer method also.
[03:03] <DarkRedman> :(
[03:03] <Sunderphon> sparrW, plus, that page states that the only cards to support that feature are the Quadro cards
[03:03] <fridgerator> when trying to play windows games through wine, if i just open the game normal I dont get any sound with ALSA selected in winecfg... if I switch to OSS and use padsp to open the program I get sound but its all scratchy... any ideas?
[03:03] <Dr_Willis> Loshki:  its basically gone from a single 'file' to a 'directory' that you are altering  isolated files in that should make it easier to debug.
[03:03] <sparrW> Sunderphon: that page lies.
[03:03] <[IRAQI]> emma did you losted your mind with you are member ?? so Learn next time do not bankick any user without really reason :)
[03:03] <Dr_Willis> work time for me.
[03:04] <DarkRedman> What a pity I can save my data and have Canonical support to fix it
[03:04] <Loshki> Dr_Willis: I guess both are annoying. Erring on the side of helping people not blow up their configs too easily does seem worth while...
[03:04] <vbgunz> /join #aptosid
[03:04] <vbgunz> sorry. I had no idea holding ctrl+enter would do that
[03:04] <Dr_Willis> Loshki:  and other programs are followign the same 'methodology'   explore /etc/ and you see bash configs and other system configs that do the same thing. (grub2 configs, upstart, and so on)
[03:05] <rww> [IRAQI]: This channel is for Ubuntu technical support. This channel is not for discussing your bans in unrelated channels.
[03:05] <anand> how to fix broken packages.........??? tried in synaptic pckge manager..... it say it will remove around 3090mb???
[03:05] <anand> wat should i do now??
[03:05] <x0rs> Anyone recommend a good mp3 program that's small but easy to use?
[03:06] <RoguishRavager> you mean a media player?
[03:06] <x0rs> Roguish: yes
[03:06] <RoguishRavager> if you don't need a library or anything you could just use vlc player
[03:06] <RoguishRavager> that's what i do when i just want to play something real quick
[03:06] <x0rs> Ok, nice... I love VLC player
[03:06] <x0rs> thanks a lot
[03:07] <bmomjian> My keyboard setting for capslock act like control doesn't work on boot with auto-login, but if I log out again and log in again, it works.  Any ideas why?  This is 8.04
[03:07] <Barridus> !firefox
[03:07] <x0rs> Do they make an application for Ubuntu similar to Daemon-Tools for windows? I am looking for an application to mount iso images
[03:07] <Barridus> !firefox-4.0
[03:08] <detrix42> x0rs: yes there is an app called gmountiso I believe....
[03:08] <Loshki> x0rs: there's gmountiso, it's just a gui layered on top of the mount command...
[03:08] <rww> !iso
[03:09] <x0rs> detrix42: thanks a lot
[03:09] <x0rs> Loshki: thank you
[03:10] <Barridus> is there a good place to go for firefox4 beta support?
[03:11] <rww> Barridus: perhaps #firefox on here or on irc.mozilla.org
[03:13] <icarus-c> x0rs, alternatively you could mount iso with GNOME's gvfs as well
[03:13] <Swabby> Is it possible to write to a CD-RW disk so that I can write to it again?
[03:13] <DJHLS> I've got a filesystem question
[03:14] <x0rs> icarus-c: nice, thanks  a lot
[03:15] <DJHLS> Has anyone else had a problem of in Ubuntu 10.04 not being able to create any filesystems from the Live CD?
[03:15] <icarus-c> Swabby, you mean burning ubuntu iso to a cd-rw ?
[03:15] <icarus-c> Swabby, why not
[03:15] <Swabby> No, not an iso.
[03:15] <icarus-c> DJHLS, what error message you get
[03:15] <Sunderphon> giving up on the red/blue 3D for linux. I've conducted about 30 google searches with multiple terms and nothing even vaguely related turns up.
[03:15] <DJHLS> basically
[03:15] <DJHLS> crap i closed out of it
[03:15] <Swabby> Just want to backup files and be able to rewrite to the disk.
[03:16] <DJHLS> anything i try, all the exts so far, it always gives me an error saying it failed
[03:16] <DJHLS> and the installation prompts are extremely slow
[03:17] <DJHLS> reiserFS also failed
[03:17] <x0rs> Does anybody else use aptitude over apt-get more often?
[03:17] <Avo>  hey guys, is there are any way to get the app dev week stuff I'm going to miss this week? I've got a totally loaded week but there's some stuff I wouldn't (but have) to miss. Thanks!
[03:18] <cor|n> Remotely controlled LOIC, tru IRC!! Download: http://github.com/NewEraCracker/LOIC/downloads HOWTO: http://i.imgur.com/lx7em.png
[03:18] <Swabby> icarus-c, I took a virgin disk and wrote to it within File Browser. Now I cannot write to it again.
[03:18] <Flannel> cor|n: Please take it elsewhere.  Thanks.
[03:18] <IdleOne> Avo: #ubuntu-classroom topic should have a link to the logs
[03:18] <amitprakash> where can I find Xorg.conf on my ubuntu live?
[03:18] <icarus-c> Swabby, you have to wipe the disk before you can write again
[03:19] <maco> amitprakash: there probably isnt one
[03:19] <icarus-c> amitprakash, /etc/X11
[03:19] <maco> amitprakash: xorg.conf has been unnecessary for....3 years i think
[03:19] <icarus-c> amitprakash, and no xorg.conf by default
[03:19] <amitprakash> maco, ah so how does one specify the driver?
[03:19] <icarus-c> amitprakash, auto detect
[03:19] <amitprakash> display driver i.e.
[03:19] <icarus-c> amitprakash, but when you want to specify one driver, you need xorg.conf
[03:19] <maco> amitprakash: generally it should autodetect
[03:19] <amitprakash> for nvidia binaries?
 Ok, will try that but seems like a hassle to do that every time.
[03:20] <maco> amitprakash: you *can* make an xorg.conf if autodetect fails, but default is not to have one
[03:20] <amitprakash> ah ok :)
[03:20] <amitprakash> great
[03:20] <icarus-c> amitprakash, you could obtain a "default" xorg.conf (the one autodetect)  by  "Xorg -configure"
[03:20] <icarus-c> and then change driver there
[03:20] <icarus-c> don't forget to put it back to  /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:21] <x0rs> Does anyone know how to use aptitude to effectively search my HD for orphaned dependencies and remove them?
[03:21] <icarus-c> apt-get autoremove
[03:21] <icarus-c> man apt-get
[03:22] <dublisk> Whats the best (least laggy) way to connect to ubuntu desktop from windows
[03:22] <Loshki> x0rs: unless you are short of disk space, it's barely worth your time. They're harmless...
[03:22] <icarus-c> dublisk, SSH
[03:22] <dublisk> gui desktop
[03:22] <icarus-c> dublisk, ssh / xming
 I get the following when trying to format disk....Error creating file system: helper exited with exit code 1: Error calling fsync(2) on /dev/sr0: Input/output error
[03:23] <prettyrobots> What are the options for remote monitoring of Ubuntu?
[03:23] <icarus-c> dublisk, hence, putty/Xming  ,  enable X11 forwarding in putty
[03:23] <prettyrobots> I'm doing Ubuntu on Webbynode and EC2. It would be nice to have some sort of a control panel to see the health of the farm.
[03:23] <x0rs> loshki: ok thanks =P
[03:24] <icarus-c> dublisk, or VNC.  (run vino, a vnc server, on ubuntu)
[03:24] <xbonesx> Can someone help me edit the entries in grub2, I would like to remove the old kernels and memtest, so that all i have left are my win7 and current kernel
[03:24] <dublisk> vnc is giving me a pain
[03:24] <dublisk> I treid the NX client by nomachine but it is just too slow
[03:25] <glebihan> xbonesx: do you just want to remove them from grub menu or to uninstall them ?
[03:25] <cor|n> Remotely controlled LOIC, tru IRC!! Download: http://github.com/NewEraCracker/LOIC/downloads HOWTO: http://i.imgur.com/lx7em.png
[03:26] <cor|n> goto irc.thefailship.net #savethepiratebay to help
[03:26] <glebihan> !ot [ cor|n
[03:26] <rww> fyi, cor|n got kicked out of #ubuntu-unregged for this behavior.
[03:26] <xbonesx> glebihan: guess i dont really have any use for the old kernels, do I? and for memtest i just want it removed from the grub menu, but i found out how to do that one...
[03:26] <Loshki> dublisk: nomachine claims to be faster than everything else. If NX is too slow for you, I'm with icarus-c: ssh and the cli
[03:26] <prettyrobots> Remote monitoring of Ubuntu? Nothing?
[03:27] <dublisk> do you have any idea what sort of ping time I need?
[03:27] <icarus-c> dublisk, 0~1ms ?
[03:27] <dublisk> everything seems so ridiculously slow
[03:27] <glebihan> xbonesx: in that case, you can uninstall old kernels using synaptic, they will then automatically be removed from grub
[03:27] <xbonesx> prettyrobots: if your using remote viewing i recommend teamviewer
[03:27] <prettyrobots> What is remote viewing?
[03:27] <DarkRedman> How to get help from canonical support but just to fix some heavy bugs instead of to have a one-year support ?
[03:27] <icarus-c> monitor.. not remote viewing (desktop)
[03:27] <dublisk> my ping time is like ~300ms
[03:27] <prettyrobots> I've only ever used Munin. I'd like something a bit more flexible.
[03:27] <xbonesx> glebihan: oh i didnt know that... thought they might be a important part of the system...
[03:27] <foo> Uh, can someone look at this and tell me I didn't just accidently delete all my data? *afraid* http://pastebin.com/sMb5yv7K
[03:28] <pabloh> which LXDE based ubuntu is better?
[03:28] <glebihan> xbonesx: well you usually don't need to keep several old kernels
[03:28] <xbonesx> prettyrobots: www.teamviewer.com
[03:29] <mamece2> hello,  i run resources administrator in windows the ram usage its at 900 mb (i got 1 GB) and 10% of processor usage, when i run ubuntu monitor it says 500 mb of ram usage and 80% of processor usage, WHY?
[03:29] <xbonesx> glebihan: right, makes sense, only needs to boot from one, but didnt know you could remove them, thought they were still part of the system lol :/
[03:29] <prettyrobots> xbonesx: Was thinking more along the lines of Munin. Remote logging, or inspecting system health.
[03:29] <Loshki> dublisk: ping times depend more on the network than on the app's you're using. What kind of link is it?
[03:29] <Barridus> xbonesx, yeah i usually keep the latest old one that worked for sure, for a while.  then when i'm certain it's not needed, i remove it
[03:29] <xbonesx> prettyrobots: trying to spy on your own system?
[03:29] <dublisk> cable modem
[03:29] <Barridus> xbonesx, i got burned bad by a kernel update once, it's handy to keep at least 1 old one
[03:29] <xbonesx> Barridus: sounds like a good idea, but can i remove the entry from the menu for now
[03:30] <prettyrobots> xbonesx: Visualization of the logging of multiple systems.
[03:30] <DarkRedman> NWho could help me ?
[03:30] <prettyrobots> Like Munin.
[03:30] <icarus-c> dublisk, the math is easy, basically, you are sending screen resolution times color bits times FPS size of data in a second through remote desktop.  and each TCP/IP packet is just 4K (some used for protocol data). plus a 300ms delay each packet.  so remote desktop must be lag as hell
[03:30] <prettyrobots> http://munin-monitoring.org/
[03:30] <glebihan> xbonesx: they're not really part of the system, they're just not automatically removed when a new version of the kernel is installed
[03:30] <Barridus> xbonesx, sometimes they update the kernel without actually giving you a new one.  that's how i got burned, the update broke support for my hardware.  i would have been screwed if i didn't have the previous kernel release
[03:30] <glebihan> xbonesx: which btw can sometimes save your life if you happen to install a buggy kernel
[03:31] <Barridus> yeah basically what glebihan is saying too
[03:31] <Loshki> foo: your data is still there. But your disk hardware is (going) bad. See if you can mount the disk...
[03:31] <Barridus> i always keep 2
[03:31] <xbonesx> glebihan: ok well how can i remove the entry, and still leave it possible to boot from?
[03:31] <foo> Loshki: yeah, going to wait for this to finish. haha. thanks. so, journal != data
[03:31] <jonkri> i'm trying to get my dell 2007fp external monitor to work on ubuntu. apparantly it's something wrong with the edid data because i don't get the 1600x1200 resolution automatically. i have a thinkpad and the default monitor runs 1400x1050. this is my xorg.conf: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/268337/. while the default monitor runs its standard resolution, i only get 1024x768 at the external. here's the log: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/268338/. any help
[03:31] <jonkri> would be really appreciated, i have been trying for hours...
[03:32] <Barridus> i want to say hardy's late kernel update (maybe the last?  i don't know) broke me
[03:32] <xbonesx> glebihan: for instance if i need to boot from it i will type manually from a cmd line in grub2 but i dont want the entry viewable
[03:32] <dublisk> maybe something with my internet connection is messed up
[03:33] <icarus-c> dublisk, what's the ping for
[03:33] <glebihan> xbonesx: you can delete the corresponding menu entry from /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[03:33] <dublisk> just checking my ping times
[03:33] <icarus-c> dublisk, ............................. you misunderstand the network thing
[03:33] <glebihan> xbonesx: but it will be put back next time a new kernel version is installed and update-grub is run
[03:33] <dublisk> ?
[03:33] <icarus-c> dublisk, you want to ping your remote desktop server from your client.  not pinging freenode/ me
[03:34] <danryan> howdy, I'm trying to install openjdk-6-jre-headless on a fresh install of 10.04, and the package hangs every time.  I duplicated my results on 5 different machines.  Are there any alternative packages to this one that will provide the same basic software for apps that require java?
[03:34] <dublisk> Yeah, and it was 300ms which seemd high so I'm thinking maybe something is up with my internet connection in general
[03:34] <xbonesx> glebihan: only in the event of a kernel update? nothing else?
[03:34] <|multipass|> I upgraded my nvidia drivers to 256.53 but ubuntu crashed.. is there anything else I can do? (8800 GTS)
[03:34] <glebihan> xbonesx: nothing else unless you manually run update-grub
[03:34] <icarus-c> dublisk, where is your server and your client?
[03:34] <dublisk> same city
[03:34] <icarus-c> dublisk, home?  office? oversea?
[03:35] <dublisk> office and home
[03:35] <icarus-c> dublisk, so you should use your home machine to ping the office one (or reverse)
[03:35] <xbonesx> glebihan: where the file that updates the grub, i will edit that one rather than the actual one...
[03:35] <Loshki> foo: the journal is a kind of cache to increase the reliability of the data. It's actually optional, but the fact that it was damaged means the disk is failing.
[03:35] <xbonesx> where's*
[03:35] <dublisk> I did, and it was ~300ms
[03:36] <icarus-c> dublisk, but that shouldn't be fast enough for smooth remote desktop anyway
[03:36] <icarus-c> wow... what city is that
[03:36] <dublisk> toronto
[03:36] <dublisk> maybe my ISP is acting up
[03:36] <glebihan> xbonesx: what do you mean, the file that updates the grub ? update-grub ?
[03:36] <icarus-c> i would expect <50ms within the same city
[03:36] <foo> Loshki: could it have been from an improper shutdown? badblocks on the drive reported 0 badblocks
[03:37] <icarus-c> dublisk, but yea.. you need LAN / fibre network to use remote desktop smoothly :P
[03:37] <xbonesx> glebihan: ya i know the real file exist in /boot/grub/grub.cfg, boot there is one you can edit to where when you run update grub it modifies the /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[03:37] <icarus-c> dublisk, why not just ssh/terminal ?
[03:37] <dublisk> pinging www.rogers.com is taking me >200ms
[03:37] <dublisk> to do dev work with an ide
[03:37] <dublisk> rogers being the isp
[03:38] <icarus-c> dublisk,   you sure its server is located in your city?
[03:38] <glebihan> xbonesx: oh yes, grub.cfg is generated using /etc/default/grub but you won't be able to remove items from the menu there
[03:38] <dublisk> is there a way to grap my ISP IP address somehow to test it?
[03:39] <Jordan_U> xbonesx: Just remove the old kernels using apt/ Software Center.
[03:39] <xbonesx> glebihan: what would be the one i could?
[03:39] <icarus-c> dublisk, plenty of network speed test out there.  but you wouldn't have a sweet remote desktop experience anyway
[03:39] <xbonesx> Jordan_U: i want to keep them incase of whatever. like recommended by glebihan
[03:39] <dublisk> yeah I used windows remote desktop all the time
[03:39] <dublisk> and you couldn't tell it was remote
[03:40] <glebihan> xbonesx: well grub.cfg, but as I said it will only last until next kernel update
[03:40] <glebihan> xbonesx: I don't know about any other grub config file
[03:40] <Loshki> foo: you need to look at the SMART disk data instead of badblocks. Modern disks try to hide bad blocks away from the operating system so badblocks isn't as useful as it used to be. sudo apt-get install smartmontools
[03:40] <maco> xbonesx: /etc/default/grub  then run "sudo update-grub" to generate a new grub.cfg
[03:41] <xbonesx> maco: ya i know...
[03:41] <xbonesx> glebihan: well didnt they just release a kernel update not too long ago for lucid?
[03:42] <glebihan> xbonesx: yes just a few days ago I think
[03:43] <xbonesx> glebihan: ya i noticed today when i installed on another computer... i had disabled auto updates, and havent ran it on my machine in a while lol
[03:43] <Gerowen> I have a video editing question if you guys don't mind.
[03:43] <pure_hate> How in the heck do I disable the gnome-keyring?
[03:43] <glebihan> !ask | Gerowen
[03:44] <Gerowen> I have a video that was recorded on its side, all I need to do is flip the video right side up.  I've been using Pitivi video editor for clipping, is there an option to do this in Pitivi?
[03:46] <Loshki> Gerowen: I haven't used pitivi, but it looks easy in avidemux. It has a 'rotate' video filter....
[03:46] <Izinucs> Gerowen, this might help http://www.hanselman.com/blog/HowToRotateAnAVIOrMPEGFileTakenInPortrait.aspx
[03:47] <Gerowen> Awesome thank you, I'll check it out!
[03:49] <mamece2> hello,  i run resources administrator in windows the ram usage its at 900 mb (i got 1 GB) and 10% of processor usage, when i run ubuntu monitor it says 500 mb of ram usage and 80% of processor usage, WHY?
[03:50] <Izinucs> mamece2, you can find out what's eating the processor by looking in the system monitor or from cli by using top
[03:50] <Ryen> mamece2: Because Windows and Ubuntu are two different operating systems, and the usage would be dependant on whats open.
[03:51] <multipass> hey guys how do i check my video card driver version? i just installed a official nvidia and i dont see it in hardware devices
[03:51] <sparrW> Seemingly at random my screensaver fails to start after the designated length of inactivity. How can I tell what is causing that?
[03:52] <xbonesx> glebihan: could i do this "sudo chmod -x 20_memtest86+" to the kernels as well to get them off the menu list for grub2?
[03:53] <rww> htop > top
[03:54] <mamece2> ryen , ok i know it depends of the program that im running, ive opened the same programs, music player, tweetdeck and mozilla
[03:54] <Jordan_U> xbonesx: No. You would have to edit /etc/grub.d/10_linux , and I don't recommend doing that.
[03:54] <Izinucs> mamece2, if you're running tweetdeck then you're also running adobeair .. that might be the culprit
[03:54] <doc|home> anyone got a good, recent, walk through for setting up a hauppauge remote control with lirc?
[03:55] <Ryen> mamece2: Programs work differently in each operating system. Some operating systems put stress in other places.
[03:55] <Ryen> mamece2: Are you worried about excessive RAM or CPU use?
[03:56] <xbonesx> Jordan_U: TY for the advice
[03:56] <Jordan_U> xbonesx: You're welcome.
[03:57] <danryan> openjdk-6-jre-headless is broke as all get out in 10.04. is there a fix for this? are there alternative packages that will satisfy apps needing java?
[03:57] <almoxarife> I have a flash vid created in a cache (chrome) I want to be able to watch via a media server, the media server expects to see file extentions, and that can't be changed, my question is then, is it possible to create a virtual link where the files in question are available and provided with an extention, the ext can be fixed, say .avi?????????
[03:57] <Jordan_U> xbonesx: Whatever you do do *not* chmod -x /etc/grub.d/10_linux. If you do it will remove *all* kernels.
[03:57] <mamece2> im worried, i dont want my laptop to get too hot
[03:58] <xbonesx> Jordan_U: glad to know that, not that i had intentions to do so, but glad i know now :D
[03:58] <spill> need help trouble shooting a realtek 8190 wifi card with lucid 64, anyone?
[03:58] <Ryen> mamece2: As long as you have it off of the carpet, you should be fine, do you know what your temps are?
[03:59] <mamece2> no, it not as hot as i cannot handle it but is annoying
[03:59] <Ryen> mamece2: Please see my PM.
[04:00] <almoxarife> spill: a pci card?
[04:00] <spill> almoxarife ya
[04:01] <androidbruce> hey guys where is the maverick room?
[04:01] <rww> androidbruce: #ubuntu+1
[04:01] <maco> !10.10
[04:01] <essial> Hey I'm on my Mac now, I've tried following the steps to get magicmouse working, even modprobed successfully
[04:01] <mijk> how can I parse links from a RSS feed?
[04:01] <essial> it ~works~ but scrolling does not
[04:01] <spill> iv compliled a driver from source and the system seems to recongnize it but wifi network says disconnected.
[04:02] <almoxarife> spill: I found that I could use the ndiswrapper to manage the card, but I never had luck with it coming out of sleep mode, sometimes it would hang, most times actually
[04:02] <glebihan> mijk: what do you mean exactly ?
[04:02] <x0rs> Are *.mdf files mountable in Ubuntu?
[04:03] <Izinucs> x0rs, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManageDiscImages
[04:04] <mijk> glebihan: I'm probably not using the correct term. I want to output the links from a RSS feed
[04:04] <almoxarife> spill: it would say disconnected till it connected, you mean it did connect but does not recognize it?
[04:04] <x0rs> Izinucs: ok
[04:05] <SNN> Hi guys.. ubuntu-desktop is no longer working on my Ubuntu 10.10 (not sure if I should ask how to fix this here or #ubuntu+1)
[04:05] <Ryen> SNN: #ubuntu+1
[04:06] <spill> almoxarife: it boots up like the network is there, but when I lshw -C network it shows the card, but that its disconnected. it never sees my router.
[04:06] <glebihan> mijk: do you need a rss feed reader, or are you writing some custom parser which you'll use to output the links ?
[04:06] <spill> almoxarife: its like the card is there but off, and I can't seem to get it on.
[04:06] <Kapace> hello, i have installed 10.10 on my compaq r3000, i had to boot to the installer with noacpi, but after it installed, i can't boot even with noacpi, and Recovery mode doesn't boot either
[04:06] <arrrghhh> anybody have experience with ps3mediaserver or transcoding?
[04:07] <Kapace> it hangs after "No floppy controller found" is displayed on the console
[04:07] <almoxarife> spill: you have the windows drivers for it?
[04:07] <arrrghhh> Kapace, ubuntu+1... 10.10 isn't released yet.
[04:07] <Ryen> !10.10 | Kapace
[04:07] <spill> almoxarife: ya, I
[04:07] <Kapace> ah thank you
[04:08] <x0rs> is there a way to determine the "type" of a particular image? "sudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 /path/file.mdf /mountfolder/" is saying the filetype isn't iso9660
[04:08] <mijk> I'm trying to use awk
[04:08] <spill> almoxarife: opps, anyways, i'm on a fresh install now, a previous install I tried the wrapper and the system kept freezing, not sure what I was doing wrong that why I got the linux driver from realtek
[04:08] <Ryen> x0rs: If you just type in 'mount' it will give you the type.
[04:08] <x0rs> nice
[04:08] <x0rs> Ryen: thank you
[04:08] <almoxarife> spill: try ndiswrapper, at a min it should work and your issues then will be how to get it up from after a sleep instance
[04:09] <spill> almoxarife: do i need to blacklist anything?
[04:09] <glebihan> mijk: you mean you're trying to use awk to parse the content of a rss feed ?
[04:09] <mijk> yes
[04:10] <glebihan> mijk: it's going to be hard, awk is not an xml parser
[04:10] <almoxarife> spill: I am not qualifed to answer that question, I didn't blacklist anything when I tried it
[04:10] <spill> almoxarife: just not sure why it kept freezing before, what windows driver do you recommend, i'm running the newest kernal with lucid 64
[04:10] <almoxarife> lucid 64 with a win32 driver???
[04:11] <almoxarife> spill: I take it back, I was on lucid 32 then,
[04:11] <spill> almoxarife: I'm dual boot with windows 7 64, so I tried those drivers first, but I have 64bit versions of all windows drivers.
[04:12] <almoxarife> spill: if you have the drivers then I would give it a try
[04:12] <spill> almoxarife: well, got nothing to loose at this point anyways ;), well give it a shot.  thanks.
[04:15] <kepp1o> Hi y'all!  Anyone know how to restart samba services in ubuntu 10.04.1?
[04:15] <kepp1o> sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart doesnt work
[04:15] <arrrghhh> kepp1o, sudo service smbd restart
[04:15] <arrrghhh> /etc/init.d isn't used any longer
[04:16] <arrrghhh> well, for most things.
[04:16] <kepp1o> ah that worked
[04:16] <kepp1o> why did they have to go change it on me.  There goes all of my scripts.
[04:16] <arrrghhh> kepp1o, yes, use the upstart service command from now on.  "sudo service <servicename> restart
[04:17] <twoaday> good to knw
[04:17] <arrrghhh> kepp1o, they're still there in /etc/init.d, but starting/stopping them from there is deprecated.
[04:17] <arrrghhh> some you still can start/stop from there, some will outright complain that you shouldn't use that method :P
[04:18] <kepp1o> good to know.  I looked in there, samba wasnt there.  is it for ubuntu only or all varients of linux?
[04:18] <brainsik> Is anyone here familiar with AppArmor?
[04:18] <arrrghhh> kepp1o, depends.  it's smbd in all distros AFAIK tho.
[04:18] <kepp1o> brainsik:  not me
[04:18] <Izinucs> kepp1o, samba is done with sudo service smbd restart/stop/start ... they don't use the "samba" word anymore
[04:19] <arrrghhh> lol you don't have to respond if you don't know ;)
[04:19] <arrrghhh> oh did it used to be the word samba?  my bad.
[04:19] <essial> what was wrong with calling it samba...
[04:19] <essial> i always wondered why it was now 'smb'
[04:19] <kepp1o> well i wanted him to know that he wasnt being ignored ;)
[04:19] <essial> like they hate vowels or something
[04:20] <arrrghhh> essial, lol they're all from eastern europe.
[04:20] <essial> anyway i'm doing a hacky upgrade to 10.10
[04:20] <kepp1o> don't forget the 'd' smbd
[04:20] <essial> hopefully that'l solve my magicmouse issue :)
[04:20] <essial> d for daemon of course
[04:20] <essial> lord forbid they call it a "service"
[04:20] <rww> "The name Samba comes from SMB (Server Message Block), the name of the standard protocol used by the Microsoft Windows network file system."
[04:20] <kepp1o> yes, shouldn't samba always run as daemon anyways?
[04:20] <arrrghhh> alrighty i'm going to ask again.  any ps3mediaserver or transcoding gurus?
[04:21] <essial> not I
[04:21] <rww> smbd is the samba service that deals with SMB stuff. nmbd is the samba service that deals with NetBIOS stuff
[04:21] <essial> ah I understand
[04:21] <kepp1o> i setup a icecast2/darkice transcoder
[04:21] <essial> never really thought about that
[04:21] <mawst> arrrghhh, I do it.
[04:21] <arrrghhh> ha, did not know about the nmbd
[04:21] <mawst> arrrghhh, what's your question?
[04:22] <arrrghhh> mawst, so i'm pretty sure i just got it to transcode on the fly with multiple cores... but the playback is still choppy.  i want to know how to figure out where the bottleneck is?
[04:22] <arrrghhh> mawst, can i msg you?  it's kinda a long saga of ridiculousness.
[04:22] <Loshki> essial: I think daemons predate services
[04:22] <mawst> Yeah go ahead
[04:22] <essial> it's the same thing >.<
[04:23] <kepp1o> whats the difference between a daemon and service?  I thought they were the same thing.
[04:23] <essial> they are..
[04:23] <kepp1o> services = ms?
[04:23] <rww> different names for the same thing
[04:23] <mijk> thx
[04:23] <willwh> hi guys - anyone running mpd? (with music in ~/Music)? I would have thought this would be a snap to get going - and it's not.
[04:23] <essial> I call it a "service" because it provides a service to the OS or client
[04:24] <rww> willwh: yes. I just had to edit /etc/mpd.conf to set the path to my music and then make sure that that folder (and its parents) were accessible by the mpd user
[04:24] <kepp1o> i like daemon better, sounds more geeky ;
[04:24] <Licuadora> Hello
[04:24] <willwh> rww: mind if I query you a bit?
[04:24] <Licuadora> I forgot
[04:24] <Ryen> kepp1o: Also, daemon's are what services run off of.
[04:24] <rww> willwh: I'd prefer in-channel messages.
[04:24] <willwh> rww: that's why I asked :)
[04:24] <Licuadora> How do you turn off the computer from the terminal?
[04:24] <willwh> sudo halt.
[04:24] <kepp1o> Ryen:  ah, so daemons are lower level
[04:24] <willwh> wups, sudo halt
[04:25] <Ryen> Licuadora: sudo shutdown now
[04:25] <Licuadora> What is the option for the time?
[04:25] <kepp1o> Licuadora:  sudo shutdown now
[04:25] <Ryen> kepp1o: Backwards, services are lower.
[04:25] <Licuadora> I want to turn it off in 5 hours
[04:25] <rww> willwh: so, my music's in /home/rww/Music, I had to do chmod o+x /home/rww and chmod -R o+rX /home/rww/Music
[04:25] <Ryen> Licuadora: Check out this link http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/shutdown-ubuntu-linux-computer/
[04:26] <glebihan> Licuadora: sudo shutdown 5:00
[04:26] <glebihan> Licuadora: sudo shutdown +5:00
[04:26] <Licuadora> Ryen; Thank you
[04:26] <Licuadora> And thank you all
[04:26] <Loshki> kepp1o: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_daemon goes into the gory details...
[04:26] <xev> Hi.. can anyone help me..
[04:27] <xev> I cant boot to ubuntu after messing with my /etc/network/interfaces.
[04:27] <kepp1o> Loshki:  thanks, I'll check it out
[04:28] <agentgasmask> Hi. Looking at iftop shows a connection to 244.0.0.251 - Does anyone know what this ip is, or what the range it is in is asigned to?
[04:28] <Loshki> Licuadora: be sure to also check out 'man shutdown'
[04:28] <kepp1o> xev:  what happens when you boot?
[04:28] <xev> now blink cursor.
[04:29] <kepp1o> xev:  can you open a terminal?  ctrl+alt+f2?
[04:29] <essial> well that was dumb, closing firefox
[04:29] <essial> in the middle of upgrading from 10.04 to 10.10
[04:29] <xev> kepp1o, no.
[04:29] <xev> So now I boot from USB linux.
[04:30] <xev> But I dont know how to mount root.disk because I'm using wubi.
[04:30] <Ryen> !10.10 | essial
[04:30] <rww> agentgasmask: that's a local network multicast addressed, used for avahi, zeroconf, etc.
[04:30] <Loshki> essial: even if you don't close it, firefox usually becomes inoperable if you upgrade it while running it....
[04:30] <rww> address **
[04:30] <xev> I need to access interfaces file on root.disk
[04:30] <essial> hehe that's cool, and thanks for the useless info ryen :)
[04:30] <willwh> rww: what does the second command do? (chmod -R o+rX /path) - recursive, allow owner to read/execute?
[04:30] <kepp1o> xev:  can you access terminal from wubi?
[04:30] <essial> and its pretty stable, because the ubuntu team is awesome...
[04:31] <willwh> rww: < being half alseep, asking a basic question, apologies, man chmod
[04:31] <Ryen> essial: Just stating that if you are wanting to to talk about 10.10 then I suggest that you go to that channel.
[04:31] <xev> kepp1o, from wubi? no.
[04:31] <rww> willwh: Recursive chmod, allows Other users (i.e., not the owning user or group) to read and execute (if it's a directory)
[04:31] <essial> OK if you want to get ~technical~ i was talking about upgrading to 10.10, hence I'm not in 10.10 YET :)
[04:31] <xev> kepp1o, i'm stuck before login screen.
[04:31] <essial> mua :p
[04:31] <kepp1o> xev: you should download the ubuntu iso and boot from it, you can get a live ubuntu session from the CD
[04:32] <willwh> rww: ok, paths for all your mpd stuff you just left as /var/** etc
[04:32] <rww> willwh: I only changed music_directory
[04:32] <IdleOne> essial: 10.10 is offtopic for this channel, wether it be talking about upgrading to it or looking for support.
[04:32]  * essial sighs, you guys are no fun
[04:32] <rww> didn't touch anything in mpd.conf apart from that
[04:32] <xev> kepp1o, boot from USB also can?
[04:33] <xev> because my laptop dont have any cdrom.
[04:33] <Dulak> it's a support channel, #ubuntu-offtopic exists for non-support discussion
[04:33] <Loshki> essial: it's a good rule actually. This channel is pretty cluttered already since it's so large...
[04:33] <essial> it's actually pretty quiet right now compared to usual :)
[04:33] <kepp1o> xev:  might try this - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[04:34] <Jordan_U> xev: sudo mount -o loop /path/to/root.disk /mnt/
[04:34] <essial> xev: What exactly are you stuck on
[04:34] <essial> you can always run the alternate installer
[04:34] <kepp1o> xev doesn't have terminal access
[04:35] <essial> O_o
[04:35] <essial> ok then..
[04:35] <willwh> rww: what was the first chmod o+x ~/ for? (that would allow other users to execute files / search if dir?
[04:35] <nkdoodwal> my ubuntu update manager is not working
[04:35] <xev> I'm stuck at init: network-interface
[04:35] <xev> I'm stuck at init: network-interface (eth0) pre-starting process ...and so on..
[04:35] <xev> after that.. black screen with blinking cursor.
[04:36] <nkdoodwal> any installation is not taking place
[04:36] <xev> it's happen after messing with /etc/network/interfaces
[04:36] <rww> willwh: execute permissions on directories means that a user can traverse the directory to get to something they have access to. So, /home/rww/ needs to be +x so that mpd can get to /home/rww/Music
[04:36] <Loshki> essial: it *is* quiet tonight, but we're really here for first-line, interactive support...
[04:36] <xev> so, now I want to repair /etc/network/interface ..but I dont have access to terminal.
[04:36] <willwh> rww: gotcha, apologies for the series of questions, great answers though - thank you very much.
[04:37] <rww> willwh: no problem, it's a confusing topic :)
[04:37] <Jordan_U> xev: Boot from the USB then: sudo mount -o loop /path/to/root.disk /mnt/
[04:37] <willwh> rww: you're not using ampache are you? :D
[04:37] <xev> Now I'm trying to boot using USB linux.. to get access for terminal and try to mount root.disk and repair from there.
[04:37] <rww> willwh: nope, sorry
[04:37] <xev> Jordan_U, thanks.. wait.. i'm trying now.
[04:38] <willwh> rww: I just wondered - mine is rdy to set up - just finishing off mpd and I'll be good to go soon :]
[04:38] <nkdoodwal> -marix: hi
[04:38] <spill> msg almoxarife just tried the wrapper, the drivers are installed and it says the hardware is pressent but how do I enable the card?
[04:39] <essial> you forgot the / spill :)
[04:39] <spill> lol, I see that. my bad.
[04:39] <spill> ;)
[04:39] <bhaveshvala> hey guys, how to find harddisk rpm
[04:40] <essial> physically?
[04:40] <xev> Jordan_U, what is "/path/to/" ?
[04:40] <bhaveshvala> i want command to check
[04:41] <Jordan_U> xev: How comfortable are you with the terminal?
[04:41] <xev> Jordan_U, I'm new with terminal
[04:41] <xev> I dont even know where to locate my root.disk
[04:41] <essial> I really don't know if that is even possible... RPM has nothing to do with anything outside the hard drive
[04:44] <khider> Greetings all, I had a kernel upgrade today and lost audio. How do I get audio back?
[04:45] <linsus6> hi I have deleted accidently the /home partition and I have create a new one what I should do next this new /home must be empty ?
[04:45] <xev> Do I need to mount my NTFS partition first and then mount my root.disk inside my ntfs partition.?
[04:45] <AbhiJit> hi
[04:45] <Jordan_U> xev: Can you pastebin the output of "sudo blkid" ?
[04:45] <bastid_raZor> bhaveshvala: probably the fastest way is to use the product number from lshw to google and that will tell you
[04:45] <Jordan_U> xev: Yes.
[04:45] <Izinucs> linsus6, is it in the same location?
[04:45] <khider> The machine recognizes my soundcards, I just cannot get it to playback audio
[04:46] <AbhiJit> !sound > khider
[04:46] <maco> khider: soundcards plural?
[04:47] <willwh> rww: thanks for the simple tips - I'm surprised there isn't a very straightforward guide for that - it would seem to be a common request.. perhaps I'll write one.
[04:47] <linsus6> no Izinucs it was sdc3 now is sdc2
[04:47] <maco> khider: do you have pavucontrol installed? itll let you pick which soundcard apps try to play out of
[04:47] <Izinucs> linsus6, then you need to make that same change in /etc/fstab
[04:48] <linsus6> so I do gksudo nautilus then acces to fstab?
[04:48] <khider> maco, I do have it, but nothing pops up when I click it
[04:48] <maco> khider: try running pavucontrol in the terminal. a window should open
[04:48] <Izinucs> linsus6, easier with gksudo gedit /etc/fstab
[04:48] <pmjp> sheesh
[04:48] <icarus-c> linsus6, yes.  coz you are running nautilus as root.
[04:49] <pmjp> chatting is getting complicated
[04:49] <linsus6> but Im in live cd
[04:49] <willwh> pmjp: what makes you say that?
[04:49] <pmjp> I got to answer questions to join a channel now
[04:49] <linsus6> so gksudo better in live cd?
[04:49] <Izinucs> linsus6, then use gksudo nautilus so you can navigate to it in the right location on the drive.
[04:49] <agentgasmask> rww: after googling a bit, I see that the multicast range stops after 239, unless I'm mistaken?
[04:49] <icarus-c> linsus6, mount the filesystem of the installed system then.
[04:49] <khider> maco, Shows no cards available for configuration--it was 100% beofre the kernel upgarde...
[04:50] <rww> agentgasmask: It's not my strong suit, but if you google the IP address you mentioned, it comes up with a bunch of stuff about Apple Bonjour, which is the same thing with a different name.
[04:50] <icarus-c> linsus6, between, using UUID or LABEL instead of  /dev/sdXy maybe a better idea
[04:50] <maco> khider: there are no devices in the output or playback tab?
[04:50] <khider> maco, Precisely
[04:50] <bhaveshvala> bastid_raZor: thanks
[04:50] <Izinucs> linsus6, sudo blkid will get you the uuid of the partition
[04:50] <xev> Jordan_U, maybe i can show you pic then..
[04:51] <khider> maco, I have two soundcards, nvidia and another one...
[04:51] <fuffalo> ive got an old tablet computer that i was thinking of installing linux on.  Is there anything similar to "one note" for linux for note taking?
[04:51] <abhinav_singh> how to see what are the activities performed on my computer in last 72 hours
[04:51] <willwh> pmjp: I didn
[04:51] <willwh> t
[04:51] <AbhiJit> fuffalo, yes try basket note pad
[04:51] <agentgasmask> rww: oh, ok. just thought if you could clear it up some more, that would be great, but, I do thank you for your help. :)
[04:51] <willwh> pmjp: are you joining the channel using some kind of webclient?
[04:52] <Izinucs> fuffalo, basket note is good.. but tomboy will also sync with ubuntu one offsite.. your choice
[04:52] <xbonesx> http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/7568/screenshotfiredragonfil.png <--- need help which ones would i install for a dsktop without any extra theme managers, aka system/preferences/appearance
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[04:52] <AbhiJit> tomboy is not 'like' one note
[04:52] <Jordan_U> xev: Open a terminal and run "sudo blkid" then then copy and paste the output to http://pastebin.ubuntu.com and post the URL here.
[04:52] <bobstro> fuffalo:  just text notes, or you want all the onenote features?
[04:52] <fuffalo> basically all i want is something that is as smooth as one note...doesn't need all the features though..all i do is write (and i like to be able to '
[04:52] <fuffalo> "scratch out" to erase)
[04:52] <pmjp> Im using X-Chat Gnome on Ubuntu 10.04
[04:52] <[mono]> .part
[04:52] <bobstro> pmjp:  you mean the questions to get into this channel?
[04:52] <khider> maco, Any idea how I can get it to recognize the devices?
[04:53] <maco> khider: but it worked on an old kernel? try rebooting into the old kernel then
[04:53] <fuffalo> bobstro to be specific, i want to write with my stylus
[04:53] <khider> maco, How?
[04:53] <hagabaka> why does ubi have to download the file again if an installation fails and I retry?
[04:53] <linsus6> I cant mount the system it show me an error
[04:53] <agentgasmask> Good night all, see you tomorrow.
[04:53] <bobstro> fuffalo:  ah!
[04:53] <pmjp> yeah anyway no worries
[04:53] <maco> khider: during boot hold shift and use the arrow keys
[04:54] <khider> maco, And the kernel options will pop up?
[04:54] <khider> Because now I just boot straight into the GUI
[04:54] <maco> khider: shift will give you the list of kernels. use the down key to go the 3rd one (first is your current kernel, 2nd is current kernel's recovery mode, 3rd is previous kernel, etc.)
[04:54] <icarus-c> xbonesx, guess you got them from http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/FireDragon?content=98769
[04:54] <besogon> does anybody know how to mount 'user share' without nautilus?
[04:55] <khider> maco,  What do you suppose the issue is?
[04:55] <khider> maco, Kernel is not up to snuff yet?
[04:55] <maco> khider: could be a broken kernel update
[04:55] <khider> maco, Would not be the first time. Thanks!
[04:56] <pmjp> crap got to go
[04:56] <icarus-c> xbonesx, for gtk & icon theme,  download tarballs  (.tar.gz)   then open gnome-appearance-properties ,  drag & drop the two tarball file from nautilus to appear preference window
[04:56] <xbonesx> icarus-c: no actually i isntalled gstyle and used that to download it but now i know where to get more
[04:56] <icarus-c> xbonesx, for emerald,  open emerald-theme-manager and  import the emerald one from the site
[04:57] <AbhiJit> abhinav_singh, http://www.lisisoft.com/tools/ubuntu-keylogger-orddat.html
[04:57] <abhinav_singh> hey AbhiJit
[04:57] <abhinav_singh> how are you
[04:57] <huangg> fine
[04:57] <AbhiJit> abhinav_singh, good!
[04:57] <xbonesx> icarus-c: ya... the last time i installed emerald it took over my current theme changing everthing and i could get it back to normal... couldnt figure out how to use it
[04:57] <bullgard4> I have established a sshfs connection from computer MD97600 to computer T43. Does this imply that I can transfer a file from MD97600 to T43?
[04:57] <icarus-c> xbonesx, yes. emerald replaces gtk-decorator
[04:58] <icarus-c> *gtk-window_decorator
[04:58] <bobstro> bullgard4:  if you have permissions, you should be able to.
[04:58] <xbonesx> icarus-c: is their a way to revert back to the reg GDM if i choose to after installing emerald?
[04:58] <maco> xbonesx, icarus-c: more like the other way around. gtk-window-decorator replaced that buggy ol' unmaintained emerald junk
[04:58] <abhinav_singh> AbhiJit can i have private chat with you
[04:58] <icarus-c> xbonesx, gdm??... why it appears here
[04:58] <bobstro> bullgard4:  or better said -- if the user you connect as using sshfs has permissions
[04:59] <xev> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/501915/
[04:59] <icarus-c> maco, i mean you could only use either  gtk-window-decorator or emerald
[04:59] <xev> Jordan_U, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/501915/
[04:59] <icarus-c> maco, at the same time
[04:59] <AbhiJit> yah
[04:59] <xbonesx> maco: lol i did like the roll up feature tho lol
[04:59] <bullgard4> bobstro: Hm. Let me see if I will be able to do so.
[04:59] <icarus-c> maco, like  metacity OR  compiz
[04:59] <rww> !emerald
[04:59] <linsus6> Im doing a check disk maybe it will help to mount
[04:59] <maco> icarus-c: ah yeah
[04:59] <AbhiJit> abhinav_singh, see also http://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2010-01-17-001-35-OS-SW-NT
[04:59] <maco> xbonesx: er... you can roll up in compiz regardless
[04:59] <Jordan_U> xev: You've got a bad CD unfortunately.
[04:59] <maco> xbonesx: heck, metacity has shade too
[05:00] <xbonesx> icarus-c: huh (to your last message to me)
[05:00] <xev> Jordan_U,  But I'm using netbook without cdroom..
[05:00] <xbonesx> maco: dont know how to use it...
[05:00] <icarus-c> xbonesx, gdm is about "login manager"
[05:00] <xev> And now boot from USB .
[05:00] <icarus-c> xbonesx, while we are talking about window decorator
[05:00] <Jordan_U> xev: That USB is bad then.
[05:01] <maco> xbonesx: in metacity, iirc, it was system > preferences > windows and you could set it to shade on title bar double click. you can set the same sort of setting in compizconfig-settings-manager too
[05:01] <xbonesx> icarus-c: GDM=the current theme mangaer to me lol, didnt know the real name for it lol sry
[05:01] <maco> xbonesx: the latter obviously being for compiz users
[05:01] <xev> Jordan_U, oh.. so.. I still dont have access to my root.disk?
[05:01] <xev> even now I'm in terminal.
[05:01] <icarus-c> xbonesx, Gnome Display Manager. it is the one that handles login and launching sessions
[05:01] <Jordan_U> xev: Can you connect to IRC from another computer?
[05:01] <xev> yes.. I can.
[05:01] <Jordan_U> xev: (one other than the netbook with this problem).
[05:01] <icarus-c> xbonesx, it has nothing to do with window theme
[05:02] <xbonesx> icarus-c: gotcha
[05:02] <xev> Now I'm using desktop PC
[05:02] <xev> yes.
[05:02] <skeeby> xev, have u tried a network installation
[05:02] <icarus-c> xbonesx, so have you figure out how to install/use metacity, gtk & icon theme ?
[05:02] <icarus-c> xbonesx, it is just drag and drop after all
[05:02] <Jordan_U> xev: OK, then reboot the netbook and when you get to the second boot menu, after selecting Ubuntu at the first menu, select recovery mode.
[05:03] <linsus6> is normal that check disk is still at 0 of 2 after 2 mins
[05:03] <xbonesx> icarus-c: i had this webpage with the directories of the images and scripts for gnome theme manager but i lost it
[05:03] <Jordan_U> xev: That should get you to a terminal within wubi.
[05:03] <linsus6> ?
[05:03] <icarus-c> xbonesx, http://art.gnome.org ?  http://gnome-look.org/ ?
[05:03] <Jordan_U> linsus6: Yes, fsck can take a while.
[05:03] <skeeby> my bad thought u were trying to install lol
[05:04] <xev> Jordan_U, Sorry.. I cant access to recovery mode because timeout is 0 sec..
[05:04] <xbonesx> icarus-c: no it was some off website that gave detailed info on directories and the ins and outs for it
[05:05] <Jordan_U> xev: Hold down shift.
[05:05] <xev> Jordan_U, ok.. I'll try it right now.
[05:05] <Jordan_U> xev: Unless you changed the timeout manually.
[05:05] <icarus-c> xbonesx, you lost me
[05:05] <icarus-c> xbonesx, what you want to do
[05:06] <xev> Jordan_U, Sorry.. cant..
[05:06] <xbonesx> icarus-c: i remember the page telling me where all aspects of the gnome system were located, including themes
[05:06] <linsus6> yep my guess was good after a check disk now it mount
[05:06] <xev> because i changed the timeout manually..
[05:06] <xbonesx> icarus-c: for instance, .theme....
[05:06] <icarus-c> xbonesx, /usr/share/themes ?
[05:06] <xbonesx> icarus-c: yep
[05:06] <icarus-c> xbonesx, and .themes
[05:07] <xev> Jordan_U, So.. I think I need to download ubuntu iso again.. and make it as usb bootable..
[05:07] <xbonesx> icarus-c: but the website gave all the known DIR
[05:07] <xev> Jordan_U, thanks.. I'll be right back..
[05:07] <Jordan_U> xev: You're welcome.
[05:08] <linsus6> ok now I have change the /dev/sdc3 was there to /dev/sdc2 so when I reboot everything will be fine?
[05:11] <AbhiJit> is gambas is in active development or dead? is it have any future?
[05:12] <icarus-c> linsus6, again i would use UUID or LABEL instead
[05:12] <Izinucs> linsus6, was there a uuid reference for sdc3 in the fstab file?
[05:13] <icarus-c> linsus6, you could get them by command "blkid"
[05:13] <icarus-c> as root
[05:13] <Izinucs> linsus6, if so then that number needs to be changed as well.. like icarus-c says. and I mentioned earlier.. sudo blkid will give you the right uuid for sdc2
[05:14] <icarus-c> linsus6, with UUID, no matter how you change the hard drive setup, linux could still locate the right partition by UUID
[05:14] <icarus-c> without manual modification
[05:15] <icarus-c> since /dev/sdXy arrangement could change, but UUID doesn't
[05:15] <besogon> Does anybody know how to connect to 'Personal File Sharing' service not using nautilus
[05:15] <besogon> ?
[05:16] <linsus6> the only uuid I see in fstab is for swap
[05:17] <besogon> linsus6: sudo blkid
[05:18] <linsus6> ya I did that but then what I do
[05:18] <besogon> linsus6: Do you need an example fstab file?
[05:19] <Jon--> What do I have to add to my $PATH to get g++ includes working? Having issues with a few
[05:20] <linsus6> you want I paste what I got in fstab and what I got with blkid?
[05:20] <besogon> linsus6: ok
[05:20] <xbonesx> icarus-c: http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/GNOME.html <--- finally found that website again i was talking about
[05:20] <besogon> linsus6: do it
[05:22] <linsus6> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/KjhypWJG
[05:23] <ha1331> Hello. How can I connect to openVPN server from ubuntu. I created the connection with "Network Connections" app at System->Preferences, how ever I haven't found a way to actually use the connection.
[05:24] <besogon> linsus6: give me a minute. I have to boot my other computer as this hasn't any windows partitions
[05:26] <linsus6> it look fine to me just confirm
[05:29] <icarus-c> linsus6, so you could replace  "/dev/sdc2"  with  ''' UUID="75ea1cf9-5fcc-489b-a7ca-a2a4b92d020b"  '''
[05:29] <icarus-c> linsus6, in fstab
[05:29] <icarus-c> linsus6, and UUID="c46623d2-003a-4d89-8d35-93908a0eb358"  for /dev/sdc1
[05:30] <MooshiMuushi> AHHH
[05:30] <MooshiMuushi> Done :D
[05:30] <MooshiMuushi> Hey Everyone :D
[05:31] <linsus6> so I erase /dev/sdc1 /dev/sdc2 for put UUID=?
[05:32] <spvensko_> what's the easiest way to install sun java on ubuntu 10.04?
[05:32] <icarus-c> linsus6, yes. like the swap one
[05:32] <besogon> linsus6: So if you don't need automount windows partitions then I tell you
[05:33] <besogon> linsus6: just replace /dev/sdcX with UUID=XXX
[05:34] <besogon> linsus6: I thought I had needed automount windows partitions
[05:34] <besogon> linsus6: don't you?
[05:35] <icarus-c> !java | spvensko_
[05:35] <linsus6> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/dfg4q7q3
[05:36] <icarus-c> xbonesx, that site about gnome seems dated
[05:36] <besogon> linsus6: good
[05:36] <icarus-c> xbonesx, if i get it right, it is targeted for GNOME 2.4
[05:36] <linsus6> ok thank guys will try this in 1 minutes
[05:37] <xbonesx> icarus-c: its helped me out with knowing where stuff was, you know of another that is more up-to-date?
[05:37] <icarus-c> linsus6, just so you know, you could also add the entries for your Windows partitions to automount them
[05:37] <icarus-c> you could use UUID for ntfs too
[05:37] <icarus-c> xbonesx, gnome doc
[05:38] <xbonesx> icarus-c: where that?
[05:38] <huangg> 有人看得懂中文吗
[05:38] <xbonesx> icarus-c: man???
[05:38] <icarus-c> xbonesx, http://library.gnome.org/
[05:38] <icarus-c> !cn | huangg
[05:38] <besogon> huangg: ;)
[05:39] <huangg> beachbrake: :)
[05:39] <linsus6> no because is an external hard drive that I can connect to every computer, the grub is on the disk not on hd0
[05:40] <kelvinella> how do i know if i have installed php in ubuntu?
[05:40] <AbhiJit> kelvie_, you installed apache too?
[05:40] <maco> kelvinella: dpgk -l php5
[05:41] <maco> kelvinella: if it starts with "ii" its installed
[05:41] <kelvinella> -bash: dpgk: command not found
[05:42] <rww> kelvinella: dpkg
[05:42] <AbhiJit> dpkg
[05:42] <kelvinella> No packages found matching php5.
[05:42] <kelvinella> does installing lamp will install php?
[05:42] <kelvinella> i installed lamp by sudo tasksel
[05:43] <ActionParsnip> kelvinella: thats what the p in lamp stands for
[05:43] <kelvinella> but No packages found matching php5.
[05:43] <ActionParsnip> kelvinella: try: dpkg -l | grep php
[05:44] <linsus6> ok one last question was is the command for know where grub is install
[05:44] <kelvinella> ok thanks
[05:44] <MooshiMuushi> Hey peeps, Is here a way to make more I-frames in avidemux?
[05:44] <MooshiMuushi> there*
[05:44] <kelvinella> hey what is the easiest way to write a simple html file that contains form like name, phone number, etc and a submit button?
[05:45] <kelvinella> after user click submit, it will store into file or database or email to me?
[05:45] <kelvinella> any tutorial online i can check?
[05:45] <ActionParsnip> kelvinella: one persons easy, is another hard
[05:45] <kelvinella> ActionParsnip, what u mean?
[05:46] <kelvinella> i need to write a simple html for my boss, we need to gather information from our client
[05:46] <ActionParsnip> kelvinella: there is no blanket "easiest" anything. for example. I fond editting smb.conf to make samba shares extremely easy, yet new users may find it hard
[05:46] <kelvinella> like name, contact numbers
[05:46] <kelvinella> i mean is there tutorial online?
[05:47] <Injaj> hi
[05:47] <kelvinella> i need to make it happen next week
[05:47] <ActionParsnip> kelvinella: so there is no "easy" way, it depends on experience and skillset
[05:47] <maco> ActionParsnip: er... a submit form is pretty easy
[05:47] <Injaj> how can I change the way the date is displayed in linux commands such as ls? For example, I want to see the year in the "date modified" field. Hopefully it's a global setting for all programs.
[05:48] <kelvinella> maco, can u show me
[05:48] <Injaj> tutorial for what
[05:48] <kelvinella> last time i write html code is like back in 1998
[05:48] <maco> kelvinella: w3schools can show you how to use html tags to make a form
[05:48] <kelvinella> where?
[05:48] <Injaj> google w3schools to get to their site
[05:48] <linsus6> ok one last question was is the command for know where grub is install
[05:48] <ActionParsnip> kelvinella: http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxTutorialaWebDap.html
[05:49] <ActionParsnip> maco: not for someone like me with zero skill in php, sql etc. Very hard
[05:49] <maco> ActionParsnip: no sql needed to send an email
[05:49] <jixe> Hi i need some help setting up ubuntu....
[05:49] <ActionParsnip> jixe: ask away
[05:50] <kelvinella> what is xhtml?
[05:50] <kelvinella> and html5?
[05:50] <jixe> I installed, then when I rebooted it was only a flashing line
[05:50] <kelvinella> wow last time i know there is html, javascript
[05:50] <rww> !ot
[05:50] <jixe> and the alternative boot options give error I/O msgs
[05:50] <ActionParsnip> jixe: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-fix-ubuntu-10-04-lts-lucid-blank-screen-at-startup.html
[05:50] <Injaj> kelvinella: xhtml was a standard to transmit markup info in XML format. I don't think it caught on too well. HTML5 is the latest version of the HTML standard.
[05:50] <maco> kelvinella: html5 is the thing that comes after html4
[05:50] <maco> kelvinella: simple thing to do is just use formmail.pl (google it) to submit a form
[05:50] <jixe> thx :~)
[05:50] <maco> kelvinella: itll email the contents of the form to you
[05:50] <kelvinella> i have been outdated,
[05:52] <linsus6> ok then I will ask my question later thank
[05:52] <jixe> * At install screen press F6 and select nomodeset and install Ubuntu as usual. --- which install screen is this?
[05:53] <DarkSector> kelvinella, http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2009/07/29/misunderstanding-markup-xhtml-2-comic-strip/
[05:53] <maco> jixe: the one where it asks "start or install?"
[05:53] <kelvinella> w3school site is nice
[05:53] <kelvinella> how come video tag can play video and people still use flash to play video??
[05:54] <rww> because websites are slow to adopt new technology
[05:54] <kelvinella> never know there is a video tag, it doesnt have that back in 98
[05:54] <jixe> the install screen on boot?
[05:54] <maco> thats new for html5
[05:55] <ActionParsnip> jixe: hold shift at boot and you can set boot options in grub2's menu
[05:55] <kelvinella> i want to make a site that is fast, should i stick with html5 only?
[05:55] <jixe> i'll try....
[05:55] <ActionParsnip> kelvinella: people use flash as it is cross platform afaik
[05:56] <DarkSector> kelvinella, it takes time to make a website using html 5, tutorials and all, stick with xhtml and then change doctype to html5
[05:56] <DarkSector> thats the good thing about html5 all types of semantics are supported
[05:57] <Dulak> something like 95% of browsers have flash installed, nowhere near 95% support html5
[05:57] <kelvinella> what do u mean cross platform?
[05:57] <kelvinella> video tag is not support in windows or osx?
[05:57] <maco> kelvinella: different browsers disagree on how to implement <video> while flash is theoretically the same everywhere
[05:57] <renedox> works across different operatings systems
[05:57] <renedox> and browsers
[05:58] <ActionParsnip> kelvinella: flash plugin is made for all browsers and will run seamlessly in all browsers
[05:58] <kelvinella> as long as it works on ff or opera i think it is fine
[05:58] <kelvinella> no one really care about other browser i think
[05:58] <ActionParsnip> kelvinella: video tag requires an extra program installing, flash just adds a small extra functionality to an existing app
[05:59] <kelvinella> so video tag require browser has the correct plugin to play the file?
[05:59] <renedox> not plugin, implementation
[06:00] <ActionParsnip> |Its offtopic either way ;). This is ubuntu support only
[06:00] <Dulak> except the 50% of people using IE.  If the goal is for the most people as possible to be able to see your content, ignoring 50% of them right off the bat is just plain dumb
[06:00] <maco> ActionParsnip: ehhh flash plugin isnt exactly seamless in khtml browsers
[06:00] <maco> right...
[06:01] <DarkSector> Dulak, iirc to enable the tags of html5 like the <header> you need to just enable them in the css file. So, a minimal html5 website will work on all browsers
[06:01] <DarkSector> Dulak, and IE ! dear god
[06:02] <beefncheese> Ryen, just commented of your 4chan reply. what desktop environment are you using?
[06:03] <maco> kelvinella: see PM
[06:04] <Dulak> DarkSector: I sell stuff online, the lowest common denominator pays my bills, IE is well over half of my sales.  I like IE users, they are dumb enough to buy my stuff.
[06:04] <DarkSector> Dulak, hahahaha :) well now we know who uses IE :D
[06:05] <Dulak> The buyers.
[06:05] <rww> alrighty, so now that we've had 15 minutes of offtopic, can it move to #ubuntu-offtopic ;P?
[06:05] <renedox> you can't make such a sweeping generalisation like that
[06:05] <DarkSector> rww, sure
[06:05] <renedox> IE users might make up 50% of your userbase but not everyone elses
[06:06] <DarkSector> !ot > renedox
[06:06] <ActionParsnip> rww: i was trying that earlier..
[06:06] <renedox> DarkSector: I read that after I replied
[06:07] <DarkSector> renedox, alright
[06:07] <willinja> hi how to reset my freenode password ?
[06:07] <rww> willinja: ask in #freenode
[06:07] <Datz>  /join #help
[06:07] <Datz> which is the same room
[06:07] <Datz> iirc
[06:07]  * rww nods
[06:09] <Jixe> Hi, i've done the nomodeset and it worked, now im getting a new error message: Buffer I/O error on device Sr0 Logical block 0
[06:09] <kazagistar> how do I change the password of a user of a computer I cannot log in to, but have access to the hard drive?
[06:09] <ActionParsnip> Jixe: take the CD out of the tray
[06:09] <Jixe> HH
[06:10] <Datz> oh here we go.. idle for awhile and when I try to log back in it's "checking" forever
[06:10] <Jixe> ahh
[06:10] <willinja> any idea why my t400 fail to boot ubuntu lucid ?
[06:10] <Jixe> is that a cd error msg?
[06:10] <ActionParsnip> kazagistar: boot to root recovery mode and run: passwd foo    replace foo with your user name you want to change the pasword of
[06:10] <ActionParsnip> Jixe: yes, sr0 is one of the logical names of the optical drive
[06:10] <Jixe> okay, I didn't know :)
[06:10] <Jixe> thx
[06:11] <ActionParsnip> Jixe: np :)
[06:11] <kazagistar> ActionParsnip: it seems my recovery mode is password protected :P
[06:11] <ActionParsnip> kazagistar: you set your root password then, you will need to type that to get access. having a root pasword is also not support by the community, nor advised
[06:12] <kazagistar> ActionParsnip: after that warning, I hate to ask, but how do I reset the root password in this case?
[06:13] <Datz> for some reason when I let my system idle too long, and it propts me for a password, I type it, it checks for a couple min, then goes back to pass promt. I can switch user and log back in though
[06:13] <kazagistar> when I finish, I can always change it back to * or something, if I remember correctly?
[06:13] <ActionParsnip> kazagistar: you MAY be able to boot to liveCD and chroot, this is WHY root account is disabled. You are probably going to be REALLY screwed and need a reinstall if yuo cant do it with a chroot
[06:13] <ActionParsnip> kazagistar: next time I suggest you follow the community guidelines and stay OFF root
[06:15] <willinja> do u get redirect to #ubuntu-unregged when u login to the irc?
[06:17] <seidos> willinja, only if i'm not identified fast enough.
[06:19] <willinja> i tried the feature of using the password login
[06:19] <willinja> by filling the nickserver password
[06:20] <willinja> in the xchat networklist
[06:21] <ActionParsnip> kazagistar: what possessed you to set the root password anyway??
[06:21] <kazagistar> ActionParsnip: sorry, I was asking for help in the wrong channel, I am using Crunchbang
[06:22] <willinja> do lampp and xampp is that different ?
[06:22] <ActionParsnip> kazagistar: yeah wrong channel, gl dude :)
[06:22] <willinja> since lampp is 1.1 but xampp is like 1.7.3
[06:23] <ActionParsnip> willinja: lamp uses linux, xampp uses any OS
[06:23] <willinja> ActionParsnip, lampp is more secure ?
[06:23] <logan_wolf> hi all
[06:24] <willinja> hi logan_wolf
[06:25] <worch> How do you update hdd partition block devices after modifying master boot records?
[06:26] <chenlong> Can ubuntu use mac software?
[06:26] <logan_wolf> what is the best ide for C++ programming on lucid??
[06:26] <prince_jammys> !ide | logan_wolf
[06:26] <Flannel> logan_wolf: Eclipse (with CDT) or Anjuta are probably your best bets
[06:27] <ActionParsnip> chenlong: no but it can run equivelants
[06:27] <ActionParsnip> logan_wolf: there is not best app for anything
[06:27] <logan_wolf> hmmm thnx guys I have been using vim for a long time I find it good but now would try something else as well ;)
[06:27] <ActionParsnip> logan_wolf: there is no blanket best anything in life
[06:28] <chenlong> geany is ok
[06:29] <chenlong> I found KDE is not easy to use.
[06:29] <Blue1> chenlong: well like they say -- there's no place, like gnome
[06:30] <chenlong> en
[06:30] <ActionParsnip> Blue1: I thought it was, no place like 127.0.0.1
[06:30] <chenlong> yeah
[06:30] <almoxarife> I have found it practical to run the kde apps I like in gnome, rather than deal with the whole desktop
[06:30] <Blue1> ActionParsnip: indeed
[06:31] <chenlong>  what is 127.0.0.1?
[06:31] <Blue1> almoxarife: that's what I do. however running kontact, pretty much hauls in most of kde along with it.
[06:32] <Blue1> chenlong: localhost (your computer)
[06:32] <ActionParsnip> chenlong: IP address of loopbck device
[06:32] <Datz> try tapping your red shoes togeather Dorothy
[06:32] <Datz> ot?
[06:32] <ActionParsnip> chenlong: its the address used if processes on the same PC want to talk
[06:32] <Blue1> Datz: toto too?
[06:33] <Datz> humm, in that case, we'd have to get shoes for toto
[06:33] <almoxarife> Blue1: I don't mind the overhead as much as being stuck in a desktop that just does not work for me, it's a matter of taste I guess
[06:34] <ActionParsnip> almoxarife: LXDE here, super slick and quick
[06:34] <Blue1> almoxarife: at least they fixed the http cleaner cache thing
[06:34]  * Datz has it simplified, and went without any GUI
[06:35] <Datz> at least for my server
[06:35] <Blue1> Datz: i've never quite mastered lynx
[06:35] <Datz> using that for everyday tasks would be fun
[06:35] <Datz> Blue1: yea, lynx is only ok
[06:35] <renedox> guis for servers is one thing i'll never understand
[06:35] <Datz> links is good too
[06:35] <renedox> which is why i'll never understand windows servers :S
[06:35] <Datz> renedox: only if you can only afford one machine :p
[06:35] <renedox> links2 is good
[06:35] <Datz> haha renedox
[06:36] <Datz> humm, didn't know there was a links2
[06:36] <Blue1> renedox: i wonder how much overhead X add's to a machine.  I think negligible
[06:36] <Datz> more updates, more instability
[06:36] <Blue1> true that...
[06:36] <renedox> Blue1: not quite negligible
[06:37] <chenlong> More apps,slower speed?
[06:37] <renedox> since you're running processes which aren't needed
[06:37] <renedox> taking up hard drive space
[06:37]  * Datz nods
[06:37] <renedox> and like Datz said, unneeded updates
[06:37] <SubCool> can someone help me with this line prompt i cant get it to work aptitude  --display-format '%p' search '?installed!?automatic' > ~/my-packages
[06:37] <rww> SubCool: change the ! to \!
[06:37] <Blue1> renedox: I've done a full install onto a flash drive (including x) and it takes up less then 3G
[06:37] <quiescens> its single quoted
[06:38] <renedox> Blue1: are all packages up to date?
[06:38] <rww> good point
[06:38] <Blue1> renedox: yes sir
[06:38] <ActionParsnip> Blue1:plus more drivers loaded to make stuff work
[06:38] <renedox> Blue1: why was x included?
[06:38] <virtuelv> has anyone experienced that their computer shuts down while in standby?
[06:38] <Datz> renedox has been knighted?
[06:38] <virtuelv> this is new since maverick, fwiw
[06:39] <renedox> Datz: whaaa?
[06:39] <Datz> he called you sir
[06:39] <SubCool> rww, wa? which one? idk the line code- someone gave it to me.. i just got to use it.. and it doesnt work
[06:39] <Blue1> renedox: an experiment to see if I could make it run on a flash drive - works fine - -howeve,r I did use EXT2
[06:39] <Datz> etc etc
[06:39] <chenlong> Is it using Mac OS X icons legal?
[06:39] <quiescens> subcool: as far as I can tell it works, maybe you should considering giving us an error message or something
[06:39] <renedox> Datz: oh right lol
[06:39] <Datz> Blue1: try SLAX for flash drive
[06:39] <Blue1> Datz: url please?
[06:39] <SubCool> quiescens, there is no error to be consider for an offer
[06:39] <renedox> virtuelv: check your power management settings
[06:39] <renedox> oh yes, slax is good
[06:39] <quiescens> subcool: then how do you know it didn't work?
[06:40] <SubCool> no file is outputed
[06:40] <renedox> Blue1: oh fair enough, what is the server used for?
[06:40] <Datz> er.. me googles slax
[06:40] <quiescens> subcool: have you looked at the my-packages file in your home directory?
[06:40] <Datz> http://www.slax.org/
[06:40] <Blue1> Datz: thanks
[06:40] <Datz> sure
[06:40] <virtuelv> renedox: which power managment settings? Ubuntu's or the bios'?
[06:40] <renedox> virtuelv: ubuntu's power management settings
[06:40] <SubCool> ok- ...
[06:41] <SubCool> i thought it woulda been in the directoy i was in when i ran the command
[06:41] <Blue1> renedox: wasn't a server - I needed a secure portable os, when travelling, so I put it on a flash drive, and used it at my folks, and my sisters (has thunderbird and ff as well as abiword on it) - works quite well
[06:41] <SubCool> my bad- see. i dont know
[06:41] <renedox> Blue1: ahh.. right, I considered doing that
[06:41] <SubCool> TY
[06:41] <virtuelv> renedox: they're not revealing much (sleep: never, close lid: standby, critically low: hibernate)
[06:42] <virtuelv> the machine goes to standby, but when I come back five minutes later, it's shut down
[06:42] <Blue1> renedox: here's the recipe on how I did that:  http://pkill-9.com/wordpress/?p=51
[06:42] <chenlong> Is the udisk
[06:42] <chenlong> Is the U disk OK?
[06:43] <renedox> virtuelv: hm.. not sure then
[06:44] <renedox> Blue1: thanks :D
[06:44] <virtuelv> I'm wondering if the windows 7 install is doing something
[06:44] <jaceleon> hello?
[06:45] <renedox> no one's here
[06:45] <chenlong> hello
[06:45] <ActionParsnip> !hi | jaceleon
[06:45] <Datz> !hi | ubottu
[06:45] <jaceleon> @all can you help me out? My brother installed grub2 on /dev/sda1 and now everytime I choose windows to boot it always returns to the menu. how can I fix this?
[06:46] <chenlong> format
[06:46] <jaceleon> @chenlong isthat the only possible way?
[06:46] <jaceleon> *is that
[06:46] <Datz> no
[06:47] <Datz> I had that after I installed win7
[06:47] <Datz> there should be a tutorial
[06:47] <chenlong> a joke.
[06:47] <Datz> jaceleon: do you have a live cd?
[06:47] <jaceleon> @Datz a live USB
[06:47] <chenlong> google
[06:48] <Datz> jaceleon: ok, that should work too
[06:48] <jaceleon> @chenlong google brought me here
[06:48] <chenlong> use windows installer--wubi
[06:48] <chenlong> wubi is useful.
[06:48] <Datz> jaceleon: I'd start with this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[06:49] <mmaksimov> Hi everyone. "apt-get autoremove" removed an old kernel package, but didn't trigger update-grub, and if run manually update-grub still "sees" the removed kernel version, although it cannot boot. How can I really remove an obsolete kernel version that is already partially removed?
[06:49] <Jordan_U> jaceleon: http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/bootinfoscript/index.php?title=Boot_Problems:Boot_Sector
[06:49] <chenlong> use ubuntu-tweak
[06:50] <jaceleon> @datz so what exactly happened to my windows
[06:50] <chenlong> tweak is useful
[06:50] <Datz> jaceleon: it's still there.
[06:51] <ActionParsnip> mmaksimov: if you run: dpkg -l | grep linux-image-2    does it show up?
[06:52] <ActionParsnip> chenlong: also unofficial
[06:52] <jaceleon> @Datz If I install testdisk, according here, I can fix the boot partition?
[06:53] <mmaksimov> ActionParsnip: two kernels, current and obsolete.
[06:53] <Datz> jaceleon: I don't know. I didn't link you to that. Ask Jordan_U
[06:53] <jaceleon> @Jordan_U If I install testdisk, according here, I can fix the boot partition?
[06:53] <jaceleon> @Datz thanks
[06:53] <Jordan_U> jaceleon: Yes.
[06:54] <ActionParsnip> mmaksimov: is the obsolete onj
[06:54] <ActionParsnip> one the one you want to remove?
[06:54] <jaceleon> @Jordan_U What should I select in the testdisk, analyse or mbr or what?
[06:54] <mmaksimov> ActionParsnip: yes
[06:54] <Jordan_U> jaceleon: Follow the directions on that page.
[06:54] <ActionParsnip> mmaksimov: ok then run: sudo apt-get --purge remove linux-image-2.xxxxxx
[06:55] <ActionParsnip> mmaksimov: obv you will put the correct version numbers
[06:55] <ActionParsnip> mmaksimov: that will remove the kernel and trigger update-grub
[06:55] <mmaksimov> ActionParsnip: I sure will :)
[06:56] <ranjan> Hi all
[06:56] <ranjan> How to delete a line from a file using sed??
[06:56] <jaceleon> @Jordan_U Ok, I'll reboot to see. Thanks.
[06:56] <Jordan_U> jaceleon: You're welcome.
[06:57] <mmaksimov> ActionParsnip thank you it worked
[06:58] <dhruvasagar> Hey, which do you recommend as the best word processor !? One where I can use images and various fonts etc
[06:59]  * Datz has always liked open office
[06:59] <riya> hi
[06:59] <Datz> one word?
[06:59] <riya> i want to execute external application in c/gtk how to???
[06:59] <chenlong> open office
[06:59] <dhruvasagar> I think LyX is better than open office
[07:00] <Datz> use emacs-nox11
[07:00] <chenlong> OOO easier
[07:00] <dhruvasagar> not sure about others
[07:00] <Random832> riya: system() or fork/exec
[07:00] <chenlong> Koffice is ok
[07:01] <Random832> system takes a single string just like the command line you type in the shell [which means it can have $variables, pipes, `stuff` etc, which means it's dangerous if you don't carefully control what is put in the string] - fork/exec is slightly more foolproof, but more difficult to use
[07:02] <dhruvasagar> chenlong: I am more woried about the output / end result
[07:03] <dhruvasagar> chenlong: I am able to produce better results with LyX, but I don't know about others, I see there's some AbiWord, but I have no idea how it is
[07:03] <twiztid> Hey all; trying to boot existing Ubuntu partition from within windows; im using VBox but im stuck trying to create a bootable grub 2 iso
[07:03] <riya> Random832: thanks
[07:04] <ActionParsnip> twiztid: may work: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=769883
[07:04] <chenlong> twiztid:regist the iso
[07:04] <ActionParsnip> twiztid: its for runing xp under virtualbox running in ubuntu but the opposite may work. You could also ask in #vbox
[07:05] <chenlong> twiztid:wubi can boot ubuntu
[07:07] <chenlong> Is using Mac icons illegal?
[07:08] <Datz> chenlong: probably not for your own use
[07:08] <ActionParsnip> chenlong: apple dont like it but if someone recreates them then I can't imagine there would be any issue personally
[07:08] <Guest66156> @Jordan_U Hey this is jaceleon, anyway, thanks for the link for testdisk, I have now booted to Windows
[07:08] <Jordan_U> Guest66156: You're welcome.
[07:09] <chenlong> Thank you
[07:09] <Guest66156> @chenlong Apple Mac OS X Icons are just okay to use as long as your country does not forbid usage of copyrighted materials
[07:10] <luw> question about browsing files.  for the file browser in 10.04, they have moved from having the path spelled out, to each directory being a "box".  how can i get it to be the way it used to be (just the plain text path)?
[07:10] <luw> also this might be a gnome question
[07:10] <rebirth> hi. i just had the best idea for a website and i need to get coding php now! yes i know how but i need help installing a programming environment on ubuntu.
[07:10] <Guest66156> @luw define "box"?
[07:10] <ActionParsnip> luw: the app is called nautilus: http://www.liberiangeek.net/2010/09/show-full-folder-path-title-bar-nautilus-ubuntu-10-0410-10-maverick-meerkat/
[07:10] <Datz> rebirth: install apache2 and php5
[07:11] <Guest66156> @rebirth there are loads of that in the ubuntu app installer
[07:12] <rebirth> is lamp good?
[07:12] <ActionParsnip> rebirth: if you need it, yes
[07:12] <dhruvasagar> chenlong: for personal usage I think it should be fine, for commercial use, no...
[07:12] <rebirth> i will need to do MySQL
[07:12] <Guest66156> @rebirth you're looking for a LAMP app
[07:13] <Qwert> What can make Ubuntu desktop system slow? Applications, updates, etc..
[07:13] <rebirth> is LAMP a specific program or a class of programs?
[07:13] <luw> Guest66156: each time you go into a directory, a seperate tab like box appears for each directory.  for instance, /home/joe/stuff has three boxes; "home" "joe" and "stuff".  you just click the boxes to go to the directory.  cute, but stupid for most real linux users.
[07:13] <icarus-c> #fedora
[07:13] <icarus-c> oops
[07:13] <luw> ActionParsnip: thank you
[07:13] <dhruvasagar> icarus-c: you are doomed...
[07:13] <glebihan> luw: to see the full path and edit it, press Ctrl+L
[07:14] <Guest66156> @luw it is due to the gnome nautilus in 10.04
[07:14] <dhruvasagar> luw: there is an 'edit' but to manually enter path...but for most real linux users, terminal is all they need ;) :P
[07:14] <Guest66156> @luw you may try using another file manager like PCManFM
[07:15] <sweetpi> rebirth: LAMP is just a buzzword for Linux, Apache, MySQL, Perl/PHP/Python
[07:15] <Guest66156> @luw I prefer that, but thunar is also good
[07:15] <glebihan> luw: to make it permanent, enable the "/apps/nautilus/preferences/always_use_location_entry" in gonf-editor
[07:15] <luw> glebihan: thank you
[07:15] <glebihan> *gconf-editor"
[07:15] <chenlong> GUI is also useful for person.
[07:15] <luw> Guest66156: yea i was thinking it was gnome thing, im not used to using this though and couldnt find it right away.
[07:16] <rebirth> sweetpi: is there a single package i can download or will i need to install them all separately?
[07:16] <Guest66156> luw: then install a file manager, there are loads of file manager that are much lightweight than nautilus
[07:16] <sweetpi> rebirth: not sure, I dont run servers on ubuntu
[07:16] <Guest66156> luw: not to mention they are following the directory address format
[07:16] <ActionParsnip> Qwert: services that aren't needed to run, running compiz
[07:17] <rebirth> is there a channel for webdev on linux or ubuntu?
[07:17] <riya> rebirth run following command sudo tasksel install lamp-server
[07:17] <ActionParsnip> Qwert: you can use slimmer apps to speed up the OS
[07:17] <pLr> rebirth: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[07:17] <dhruvasagar> rebirth: I think you'll have to install separately, but there are a lot of articles out there to assist you
[07:17] <Qwert> ActionParsnip: As in?
[07:17] <pLr> rebirth: there is no virtual package containing lamp
[07:17] <ranjan> Hi all any help with sed??
[07:17] <ActionParsnip> Qwert: if you only use Writer ni openoffice, uninstall openoffice and use abiword
[07:18] <pLr> !ask ranjan
[07:18] <Qwert> ActionParsnip: Okay
[07:18] <glebihan> !details | ranjan
[07:18] <rebirth> ok i will read this and google LAMP installation
[07:18] <ub_noob> can someone tell me how i can type Chinese using ubuntu? TOTAL NOOB just switched!
[07:18] <Qwert> ActionParsnip: Thanks
[07:18] <ActionParsnip> Qwert: that sort of thing, if you don't scan or print you can remove sane and cups to run a slimmer OS
[07:18] <Guest66156> ub_noob: change your keyboard preference
[07:18] <luw> dhruvasagar: true, this computer is set up for my parents.  i guess i'm not a linux user anyway (i just write the drivers)
[07:18] <Guest66156> ub_noob: it is in system, if I remember correctly
[07:18] <ActionParsnip> Qwert: you can also install LXDE and run that and use less ram
[07:18] <ranjan> pLr, glebihan , hi i want to delete a line from a file using sed with matching string
[07:18] <dhruvasagar> luw: cool
[07:19] <dhruvasagar> luw: I was just kidding anyways
[07:19] <Qwert> ActionParsnip: Yeah.. Got it
[07:19] <ranjan> plr, glebihan and i want this to do recursively on files inside folders.
[07:19] <Guest66156> luw: writing drivers? I sort of think that's good.
[07:19] <ub_noob> Guest66156: that only change the layout, it doesn't let me type chinese..
[07:19] <chenlong> rebirth:use ibus
[07:19] <pLr> ranjan: what is your string?
[07:19] <ranjan> its x(y)
[07:20] <ranjan> pLr, its x(y)
[07:20] <xerox1> hi, is there a difference in formating an usb device with fdisk and geparted?
[07:20] <pLr> ranjan: so you want to delete all lines containing x(y) ?
[07:20] <Guest66156> ub_noob: try asking in the ubuntuforums
[07:20] <luw> dhruvasagar: no worries, thank you all for helping me fix this
[07:20] <Guest66156> ub_noob: I'm sorry I cant assist you that much, since I'm already cool with the US layout
[07:20] <ranjan> pLr, yes ofcourse
[07:21] <Jordan_U> xerox1: Yes. fdisk only changes the partition table, it doesn't create or resize filesystems.
[07:21] <chenlong> ranjan:maybe sed -d
[07:21] <pLr> ranjan: you should not use sed for this purpose, i would suggest grep
[07:22] <Guest66156> xeroxl: gparted can also do fdisk's job
[07:22] <xerox1> Jordan_U, okay, thx a lot
[07:22] <Jordan_U> xerox1: You're welcome.
[07:22] <chenlong> ranjan:i would suggest vim
[07:22] <pLr> ranjan: e.g. grep -v 'x(y)' filename
[07:22] <ranjan> pLr, let me try that
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[07:23] <pLr> chenlong: vim!?
[07:24] <chenlong> plr:soory
[07:24] <ranjan> pLr, its not getting removed from the file
[07:24] <ranjan> chenlong, how using vim??
[07:24] <lucent> Guest66156: regular old parted... why bother with gparted?
[07:24] <pLr> ranjan: once you verify the output is correct you can redirect with > to a filename
[07:24] <glebihan> ranjan:  grep -v 'x(y)' filename > filename
[07:24] <lucent> though I wish parted had an explicit "No Write" mode
[07:25] <ranjan> glebihan, but i want to do this recursively there are nested folders too.
[07:25] <ranjan> glebihan, and i want the file names intact
[07:25] <ranjan> glebihan, any tricks?
[07:26] <xbonesx> anyone else have problems getting the different mouse cursors to work right?
[07:26] <pLr> xbonesx: HAHA
[07:26] <pLr> lol
[07:26] <ActionParsnip> xbonesx: I just use the default, works fine
[07:26] <xbonesx> pLr: whats so funny lol
[07:26] <lucent> ranjan: my first go-to choice would be to write a script in Ruby and do the work this way
[07:27] <pLr> ranjan: use the same name.. and to go over many files you would need a for loop
[07:27] <lucent> ranjan: you can actually do it using some bash redirection and sed kung-fu'ery
[07:27] <pLr> ranjan: an easier approach for support is to ask for your outcome and not how to troubleshoot what you think is right
[07:27] <lucent> pick a scripting language though perl, ruby, python, whichever and learn one so you have some tools to do advanced things
[07:28] <lucent> sorry that's a bit of a non-answer
[07:28] <ranjan> lucent, yes i will but this is something urgent.
[07:28] <pLr> ranjan: #bash is also more relevant to these topics
[07:28] <xbonesx> pLr: ???
[07:28] <lucent> true it's not exactly Ubuntu issue
[07:28] <lucent> ranjan: really wish you best time to find your answer, somewhere else? :)
[07:29] <pLr> xbonesx: nothing i guess your memory is not so good
[07:29] <ranjan> lucent, thank you
[07:29] <xbonesx> pLr: why lol?
[07:29] <xbonesx> pLr: i remember talking to you but not about what?
[07:29] <ActionParsnip> quit
[07:29] <pLr> xbonesx: its ok i was joking
[07:30] <xbonesx> pLr: dude im lost cuz i dont even know what your joking about... :/
[07:31] <Voting> If I want to create a user but I want that user to end up with a specific ID number (she it will match the user on another machine) how do I do it exactly? (god, this seems like something I should be able to figure out myself.)
[07:32] <maco> Voting: you could just add them and edit /etc/passwd
[07:32] <xbonesx> pLr: when did i last talk to you?
[07:32] <lucent> maco: incorrect
[07:32] <pLr> pLr: a couple weeks ago i helped you with your wireless
[07:32] <maco> Voting: oh or..  sudo adduser --uid 2000  username
[07:32] <lucent> shadow file won't get updated... naughty way to do it
[07:32] <maco> lucent: meh fine edit passwd, group, and shadow
[07:32] <xbonesx> pLr: oh ya... think i remember, then again ive had a lot of people help me with that
[07:33] <maco> though... i thought shadow went by username not uid...
[07:33] <multipass> any idea why amarok wont play music on my ubuntu?-- every other one i've tried does
[07:33] <xbonesx> pLr: finally got it working tho
[07:33] <lucent> Voting: see manual pages for adduser, there's an option to specify the numeric UID
[07:33] <pLr> xbonesx: congrats
[07:33] <xbonesx> pLr: shit ive learn a crap loads since then
[07:33] <maco> lucent: um shadow goes by username not by uid
[07:33] <xbonesx> learned*
[07:33] <maco> !language | xbonesx
[07:33] <Voting> maco: let me try that again... "sudo adduser --uid 2000  username group" right? I can put the group name at the end?
[07:33] <xbonesx> maco: sry
[07:33] <chenlong> Voting:use gui tools
[07:33] <pLr> xbonesx: good
[07:33] <maco> Voting: no, put --group groupname
[07:34] <lucent> Voting: group name at end of adduser command adds the user to a group, not setting the initial gorup
[07:34] <lucent> group* so I don't think that's it
[07:34] <Voting> chenlong: I'd rather use comand line tools
[07:34] <lucent> maybe you want an explicit option to set initial group?
[07:34] <xbonesx> pLr: but now i cant get this mouse cursor to work right, it shows up sometimes but not all the time, for instance like when hovering over the xchat client it shows but now the desktop
[07:36] <pLr> xbonesx: your cursor is probably from x right?
[07:36] <xuxu> How to change the B's parent process id,  in A process?
[07:36] <xbonesx> yep
[07:36] <pLr> xbonesx: i would guess its in gconf
[07:36] <pLr> xbonesx: but i did not look yet :p
[07:36] <filsuf> hallo list ... how is the ubuntu 64 bit for an i5 laptop?
[07:36] <filsuf> is that good?
[07:37] <glebihan> xuxu: you should probably ask on ##linux-coders
[07:37] <chenlong> Voting:a small linux command book is good.i have one at hand.
[07:37] <xuxu> glebihan:ok! thank you
[07:38] <lucent> filsuf: might direct you to search forum posts for users of an i5 laptop to find out what they are using and read what they think
[07:38] <lucent> asking here might be disappointing
[07:38] <filsuf> where's that lucent ?
[07:39] <lucent> when I want to know about Ubuntu and how it works on "some hardware" what I do is use Google to search for opinions
[07:39] <lucent> "Ubuntu i5 laptop 32-bit" is my suggestion to search for, then see from answers about 32-bit if anyone says 64-bit is working and much better than 32-bit
[07:39] <Voting> I typed "sudo adduser newAdmin --group admin --uid 2000" and it said:
[07:39] <Voting> adduser: Specify only one name in this mode.
[07:40] <chenlong> lucent:ubuntu support common hardware well.
[07:40] <pLr> lucent: you scared him away
[07:40] <bastid_raZor> !hardware | lucent ::good place to look for support hardware.
[07:40] <pLr> lucent: lol
[07:41] <lucent> pLr: Fine, will toast and eat for breakfast if he returns.
[07:41] <bastid_raZor> Voting: sudo adduser username admin   ..replace username with the actual username  .. the rest leave alone. that command will add the user to group admin
[07:42] <Voting> bastid_raZor: "adduser: The user `newAdmin' does not exist."
[07:43] <Voting> is what it says now.
[07:43] <bastid_raZor> Voting: okay, then use an actual user not a made up one.
[07:43] <lucent> Voting: do this in two separate steps
[07:43] <lucent> first create the user, then add to admin group
[07:43] <Voting> create the user then re-set its ID?
[07:44] <Voting> but then his directory will have the wrong owner, etc?
[07:44] <Voting> oh, leave out the group, eh?
[07:44] <lucent> create the user setting the uid, d....
[07:44] <lucent> yes you got it right with that last thing you said
[07:46] <chenlong> Voting:it seems "useradd"
[07:46] <lucent> Voting: if this is a Desktop then uh, just create the user how you want it to be w/ adduser, worry about setting groups later - I suggest using the graphical tools to set other things
[07:47] <skeeby> can anyone assist me with mouse focus on a system with 2 separate xscreens running full screen aps?
[07:47] <lucent> skeeby: how so?
[07:47] <skeeby> well im trying to run a game fullscreen in wine on my main screen
[07:48] <linsus6> hi I haved lost the grub just before now I have reinstall it to his original point (hd2,3) how do I update grub my second linux os is not in the list?
[07:48] <skeeby> but if i move my mouse around too much it goes to the other screen and hides the fullscreen app if not crashes it
[07:48] <chenlong> Voting:"useradd -g" points the group.
[07:48] <Voting> chenlong: that worked great. now, how do I, on thecommand line, put him in the admin group?
[07:48] <lucent> linsus6: when you "install" grub, that is when you tell grub stages where to look for the filesystem containing a config file
[07:48] <lucent> linsus6: make sure you're doing that right!
[07:48] <maco> Voting: usermod -ag admin username
[07:49] <skeeby> i already checked the wine settings and have "allowe dx apps to sotp the mouse from leaving their window"
[07:49] <skeeby> and unchecked the 2 below it
[07:49] <Voting> maco: THANKS!!
[07:49] <maco> Voting: -a is *very* important
[07:49] <chenlong> Voting: sorry,i dont know
[07:49] <skeeby> that stopped it from crashing the game but still hides it when my mouse moves =(
[07:49] <lucent> skeeby: that's an advanced question for WINE community, though.  They will know better than anyone here, I think
[07:49] <maco> (without it, they are removed from all other groups and put into that one. with it that group is added to their list)
[07:49] <linsus6> lucent is for that I ask I want to make sure everything is in the menu.lst
[07:49] <Voting> maco: thanks!
[07:50] <Voting> thanks all!
[07:50] <skeeby> junks
[07:50] <skeeby> well
[07:50] <lucent> linsus6: so uh, the thing I would do is use LiveCD and boot. Then I would mount my computer's installed partitions and chroot, then re-run grub
[07:50] <skeeby> are there any settings in ubuntu to prevent the mouse from switching screens in fullscreen aps?
[07:51] <lucent> linsus6: I'm willing to teach you how to do that privmsg, but only if you care... If you just want it to work and don't care, then I'm not going to waste my time man
[07:51] <rambo3> when i delete a folder of > 30 gig  with rm -rf , df doesnt update free disk. why?
[07:51] <Voting> maco: "usermod -aG admin username" perhaps? capital G?
[07:51] <lucent> rambo3: ha... yeah that happens a lot
[07:51] <maco> Voting: yep you're right
[07:51] <lucent> rambo3: which fs?
[07:52] <Voting> maco: very grateful!
[07:52] <rambo3> ext3
[07:52] <maco> Voting: the -a is the bit i try to remember ;-)
[07:52] <linsus6> lucent I care I need my grub to be complete
[07:52] <rambo3> I have been wating for a while now. Need to start mysql
[07:53] <lucent> rambo3: when you reboot, the sizes will update. I think that's the short answer
[07:53] <quellhorst> how am I suppose to upgrade packages?: 12 updates are security updates.
[07:53] <lucent> rambo3: it's not really a bug or a thing to be worried about
[07:53] <Jordan_U> linsus6: "sudo update-grub" should add entries for all OSs to your /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[07:53] <rambo3> lucent, I did reboot
[07:53] <quellhorst> I turned on auto updates and installs, but don't see it running.
[07:53] <lucent> rambo3: one unlikely possibility, you need to fsck the filesystem manually maybe there are errors
[07:54] <kiennd> Hi everyone
[07:54] <kiennd> I use ubuntu 10.04
[07:54] <kiennd> install virtual box
[07:54] <ectospasm> !ask | kiennd
[07:54] <chenlong> quellhorst:sudo apt-get install update
[07:54] <kiennd> guest OS is window xp
[07:55] <rambo3> lucent, It's not the first system that this has happened on.
[07:55] <quellhorst> chenlong: E: Couldn't find package update
[07:56] <bastid_raZor> quellhorst: sudo apt-get upgrade
[07:56] <quellhorst> bastid_raZor: yeah, just did that :)
[07:56] <kiennd> !ask | kiennd
[07:56] <quellhorst> bastid_raZor: i'm still surprised it didn't automatically apply them yet. the machine has been installed for 6 hours now.
[07:56] <bastid_raZor> quellhorst: i tend to do a "sudo apt-get update" before that.
[07:57] <quellhorst> bastid_raZor: why? I did that by accident first and it didn't seem to do much
[07:57] <bastid_raZor> quellhorst: i've never used the auto updater.. i prefer to do it manually.
[07:57] <bastid_raZor> quellhorst: the update refreshes your package list.
[07:57] <quellhorst> bastid_raZor: since this is for a staging server, i figured it would be an ok environment to test
[07:57] <blakkheim> aptitude update; aptitude -y full-upgrade
[07:59] <xbonesx> whats the command for extracting "tar.gz" keeping the permissions the same
[07:59] <linsus6> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/hd9Fen3g    my ubuntu doesnt apear?
[08:00] <deena> Hi
[08:01] <JoeMaverickSett> !welcome | deena
[08:01] <deena> there is no way to play swf format otherthan gnash,swplayer
[08:02] <Shvonder> hello. I don't know why but it seems that WINS server had registered one IP () in the meantime DHCP gives me other IP. What should I do to fix that?
[08:02] <chilli0> Hello , for some reason half of the time a put a usb in my computer it wont show up, but some times it will. And also my CD won't show up.
[08:02] <linsus6> so lucent please how we update it correctly
[08:02] <chenlong> quellhorst:sorry.It wound be "sudo apt-get update" ,then "sudo apt-get upgrade".You also should have a speed soursr server.
[08:04] <chilli0> Hello , for some reason half of the time a put a usb in my computer it wont show up, but some times it will. And also my CD won't show up.
[08:04] <quellhorst> chenlong: its already done and rebooting.
[08:04]  * quellhorst pets his fiber connection
[08:04] <jgb> my keyboard has suddenly started switching to a non-default layout when I open a new window, and holding backspace etc. moves only one character instead of continuing as long as I hold it in... what can cause this?
[08:05] <[SoulRave> hi
[08:05] <[SoulRave> please help me with a problem regarding openssl
[08:05] <ElCerebr0> does anyone know how to set up radio stations in banshee?
[08:05] <[SoulRave> i want to install
[08:06] <chenlong> chilli0:you should download a "ailurus" ,then chose "icons" items.
[08:06] <[SoulRave> http://pastebin.com/YpBtWzFu
[08:06] <[SoulRave> but i have a dependencis problem
[08:06] <chilli0> chenlong, What will this do?
[08:06] <linsus6> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/hd9Fen3g
[08:06] <Colloguy> how do I give one network interface a higher priority than another on ubuntu?
[08:07] <Shvonder> Colloguy: what do you mean by 'high priority'?
[08:07] <chenlong> "ailurus" is a gui tools.you can google it .
[08:08] <kiennd> hi all
[08:08] <kiennd> I'm using ubuntu 10.04. I installed virtualbox 3.2.8 GuestOS is WindowXp. In the WindowXp machine I have a program to configure my device. This program uses an usb to com converter. After installing the driver on my virtual machine appears COM3 (the virtual com), but from my program can not access the device. Please help me how to configure.
[08:08] <[SoulRave> what i have to install to get rid of the dependinces problem?
[08:08] <Colloguy> I'm connected to both my home wifi network and also a usb modem, but I can't use the usb modem to access the internet until I disconnect from my wifi
[08:08] <Colloguy> my wifi network is not internet-connected
[08:08] <jgb> Colloguy: set a default route?
[08:09] <JoeMaverickSett> [SoulRave: try sudo apt-get -f install
[08:09] <jgb> Colloguy: route -n   will show you your current routing table
[08:09] <Colloguy> oh, what is a good starting point for me to find out more about that
[08:09] <Colloguy> oh, thanks!
[08:09] <[SoulRave> JoeMaverickSett: i fave try, nothing
[08:09] <Shvonder> Colloguy: or you have to tune /etc/network/interfaces but in this case NetworkManager don't works
[08:10] <jgb> Colloguy: man route, there are examples at the end
[08:10] <JoeMaverickSett> [SoulRave: according to this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=62943 it should work. no?
[08:11] <Syria> Hi, How  can i remove universal access preferences icon on the upper gnome panel?
[08:11] <[SoulRave> JoeMaverickSett http://pastebin.com/SEyBanRj
[08:12] <chilli0> Hello , I would like to make my CD mount. But there is no CD entrys in my fstab or anything, help please I need to make a CD now for a assignmnment.
[08:12] <JoeMaverickSett> [SoulRave: what version of Ubuntu are you using?
[08:12] <[SoulRave> JoeMaverickSett ubuntu-10.04-server-i386
[08:13] <chenlong> I think our new user should download a "ailurus" or "ubuntu-tweak".They are useful.At the same time,we can use CLI.But,we don't want do verythings by CLI at START.I think.
[08:15] <chenlong> chilli0:download a "Gmount-iso" from softwarecenter.
[08:16] <kiennd> Hi all, I'm using ubuntu 10.04. I installed virtualbox 3.2.8 GuestOS is WindowXp. In the WindowXp machine I have a program to configure my device. This program uses an usb to com converter. After installing the driver on my virtual machine appears COM3 (the virtual com), but from my program can not access the device. Please help me how to configure.
[08:16] <chilli0> chenlong, I don't want to mount an ISO.
[08:17] <chenlong> chilli0:in the center,you can find what you want.
[08:17] <chilli0> Oh ok.
[08:17] <JoeMaverickSett> [SoulRave: you are using server version of ubuntu, right? so why not try in #ubuntu-server? think you might get better support.
[08:18] <chilli0> chenlong, No that had nothing like what I wanted.
[08:20] <[SoulRave> ok, thx:)
[08:20] <[SoulRave> the channel is empty :)
[08:20] <JoeMaverickSett> [SoulRave: try this one http://packages.debian.org/sid/i386/libssl0.9.8-dbg/download i think this is what you need.
[08:23] <chenlong> chilli8:what about  "brasero"?
[08:23] <sander^work> linux-image-2.6.35-22-server - Linux kernel image for version 2.6.35 on x86_64 <-- How can I install this kernel on 10.04 ?
[08:23] <sander^work> Which apt repository do I need to add?
[08:23] <lucent> sander^work: there's more changes than just kernel version, AFAIK
[08:23] <JoeMaverickSett> [SoulRave: i think you have to put deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian sid main in your /etc/apt/sources.list and update your machine. think the version you need might come up.
[08:24] <lucent> would be a shame to break your userspace.
[08:24] <chenlong> chilli8:maybe jiust "ubuntu-tweak"?
[08:24] <chenlong> or "mount" command?
[08:25] <sander^work> lucent, what do you mean by more changes?
[08:25] <JoeMaverickSett> sander^work: do you mean to upgrade your kernel version from the normal lucid version to maverick or 2.6.35?
[08:25] <JoeMaverickSett> sander^work: if so, check this out: https://launchpad.net/~kernel-ppa/+archive/ppa
[08:25] <[SoulRave> JoeMaverickSett: i have installed right now, i will see after that
[08:25] <sander^work> JoeMaverickSett, I mean to only upgrade kernel to maverick.
[08:26] <JoeMaverickSett> [SoulRave: okie. hope it works out. i'm not much of a helper though.
[08:26] <chenlong> chilli8:"mount -a"?
[08:27] <sander^work> JoeMaverickSett, does it come with updates too?
[08:27] <JoeMaverickSett> sander^work: yes, it does. that's what i use for my lucid.
[08:30] <rebirth> is there a program that lets you put "tickypads" up over the display?
[08:30] <chenlong> sander~work:"　　sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kernel-ppa/ppa && sudo apt-get update" and"　　sudo apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.35-14 linux-headers-2.6.35-14-generic linux-image-2.6.35-14-generic linux-maverick-source-2.6.35" maybe ok.I have done it ok.
[08:30] <rebirth> "stickypads"
[08:30] <rebirth> like a notepad program but the notes stay above other windows
[08:31] <lucent> rebirth: sticky notes are evil, but there is Tomboy note taking app
[08:31] <lucent> I like Tomboy better than annoying sticky notes
[08:32] <rebirth> how does it work?
[08:33] <lucent> rebirth: it doesn't work like sticky notes.  Tomboy is a hyperlinked note taking app
[08:33] <lucent> you can make certain words into links that open other notes
[08:33] <rebirth> like a personal wiki?
[08:33] <maco> rebirth: like your own little wiki
[08:33] <lucent> pro tip for you though, right-click window title of ANY window on your screen, you can set it to stay above other windows
[08:34] <HSR> Does ChatZilla follow Firefox settings?
[08:35] <rebirth> so it's like tiddlywiki but offline
[08:35] <chenlong> HSR:no
[08:35] <rebirth> firefox settings for what?
[08:35] <HSR> chenlong: Then? How can I change its network settings?
[08:37] <chenlong> HSR:"editor" then "N"
[08:37] <HSR> chenlong: There is no editor option..
[08:37] <RusAlex> mornin everyone
[08:38] <kiennd> good afternoon RusAlex
[08:39] <chenlong> HSR:sorry.chatZilla is a FFadtion.
[08:39] <HSR> chenlong: What is FFadtion?
[08:39] <chenlong> HSR:you can chose the "tools" items.
[08:40] <chenlong> HSR:then "additons".
[08:40] <HSR> chenlong: No. I
[08:40] <lucent> ugh, idiots wasting my time. Sigh.
[08:40] <chenlong> HSR: firefox aditons
[08:40] <lucent> not you guys, something in privmsg
[08:40] <HSR> chenlong: No. I've only ChatZilla, IRC, Edit, View and Help as option
[08:42] <chenlong> HSR:you can get chatZilla in firefox official  adtions websites.
[08:42] <grouchygaijin> I tried asking this in kbuntu but didn't seem to get any replies - sorry I'm new.  I've lost the ability to type in different languages in open office in KDE although I still can in kate
[08:42] <chenlong> HSR:sorry.I use FF.
[08:42] <HSR> chenlong: Alright. Thanks
[08:43] <sander^work> JoeMaverickSett, The apt line you use is the same as this one:  http://old.nabble.com/Lucid-LTS-kernel-backport-from-Maverick-preview-td28683796.html .. and I don't see the meta package linux-lts-backport-maverick in there anymore.
[08:44] <ojii> hi everyone
[08:44] <ojii> I get an "error mounting filesystems" when booting my ubuntu 9.10 after latest kernel updates. how can I force GRUB to not autoboot? (I tried holding shift... didn't work)
[08:45] <grouchygaijin> Any one have any ideas why I can switch imput methods in some programs like Kate but not others like open office?
[08:46] <simon^templar> hi
[08:46] <grouchygaijin> Any one have any ideas why I can switch imput methods in some programs like Kate but not others like open office?
[08:47] <nogo> !ubuntu
[08:47] <JoeMaverickSett> sander^work: in https://launchpad.net/~kernel-ppa/+archive/ppa i can see the linux-meta-lts-backport-maverick, if that is what you mean.
[08:47] <grouchygaijin> this is really frusterating
[08:48]  * nogo kicks ppa
[08:48] <cryptopsy> how do i run opengl apps on ubuntu that doesn't have an opengl grpahics card
[08:49] <chenlong> grouchygaijin:Are you all software is lastest?
[08:49] <cryptopsy> was it the mesa drivers that did that?
[08:50] <ojii> how can I force my grub to stay at the menu instead of autoboot (my timeout is 0). not sure if i have grub2 or grub. shift and esc both don't work.
[08:50] <chenlong> crytopsy:download the opengl libs.
[08:51] <chenlong> ojii:do you have windows?
[08:51] <ojii> chenlong, no, just ubuntu
[08:51] <ojii> and since last kernel update on my 9.10 machine i can't boot
[08:52] <chenlong> obji:are you 10.04?
[08:52] <ojii> chenlong, 9.10
[08:52] <nogo> everybody is using 10.04, except .....
[08:52] <sander^work> JoeMaverickSett, I add that repo with:? apt-get install python-software-properties
[08:52] <sander^work> ; add-apt-repository ppa:kernel-ppa/ppa
[08:53] <ojii> chenlong, just found out, it's grub legacy (I upgraded from 9.04 to 9.10), not grub2
[08:53] <chenlong> obji:maybe you should burn a livecd?
[08:54] <chenlong> obji:9.10 is not LTS.it's bug is much.
[08:54] <ojii> chenlong, i just need to boot the second latest kernel :( I even see the menu splashing, but can't keep it to stay
[08:54] <ojii> chenlong, I might upgrade to 10.04 after this, but for now i need it to boot first :(
[08:54] <JoeMaverickSett> sander^work: should be... sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kernel-ppa/ppa
[08:55] <JoeMaverickSett> sander^work: btw, what is the python-software-properties for?
[08:55] <chenlong> obji:maybe press the dowload shot key?
[08:55] <sander^work> JoeMaverickSett, to install the add-apt-repository command.
[08:56] <chenlong> obji:The down arrow key.
[08:56] <JoeMaverickSett> sander^work: i've never seen that before,if you are just adding the ppa, in this case, it should be just sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kernel-ppa/ppa
[08:57] <sander^work> JoeMaverickSett, I didn't have the add-apt-repository untill I installed python-software-properties
[08:57] <sander^work> JoeMaverickSett, ok.
[08:57] <aroman> hey guys, when installing some packages I'm getting this error (with dpkg)  depends on gconf2 (>= 2.28.1-2); however:   Version of gconf2 on system is 2.28.1-0ubuntu1. How can I install the newer version? Thanks!
[08:57] <stuk_gen> hi :) can i ask some question about use of grep'
[08:57] <stuk_gen> ?*
[08:58] <JoeMaverickSett> sander^work: hhmm, weird. you are using ubuntu, of course?
[08:58]  * nogo kicks stuk_gen to #bash
[08:58] <chenlong> obji:you needn't enter the old kernel,in actually.
[08:58] <sander^work> JoeMaverickSett, ubuntu server.
[08:59] <JoeMaverickSett> sander^work: ah, okie. i'm not really familiar with server version, though. :)
[08:59] <llutz_> ojii: do you have any linux live-cd, you can boot from?
[08:59] <nogo> i am happy with my usb ubuntu
[08:59] <ojii> llutz_, no
[08:59] <llutz_> !ot > nogo
[09:00] <llutz_> ojii: get one to repair your menu.lst. set "#timeout" (comment it) to make the menu stay
[09:00] <ojii> llutz_, the repair shell i get can't write files
[09:00] <llutz_> ojii: "timeout 0 "  means, don't wait, just boot the default
[09:00] <StaRetji> Hi there folks. What would be lifetime of usb stick if I install ubuntu on it, just like on plain hard drive? Any help regarding this would be highly appreciated
[09:01] <sander^work> JoeMaverickSett, W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/kernel-ppa/ppa/ubuntu/dists/karmic/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz  403  Forbidden
[09:01] <sander^work> JoeMaverickSett, when I do: apt-get update (after adding the repo).
[09:01] <chenlong> obji:you needn't enter old kernel.
[09:01] <sander^work> JoeMaverickSett, I suspect thats why I cant get up package linux-lts-backport-maverick
[09:02] <ojii> chenlong, yes i do to boot this thing
[09:02] <ojii> chenlong, also your nick autocomplete fails
[09:02] <plitter> hello, i've been trying new kernels to see if my problems will disappear with a newer kernel, but till now not found anything. Is there a way to uninstall the kernels that i have so that i wont have to scroll all the way down to the one that i want to use?
[09:02] <JoeMaverickSett> sander^work: try asking in #ubuntu-server also. :)
[09:04] <kibibyte> http://techrights.org/2010/09/28/document-foundation-and-libreoffice/
[09:04] <chenlong> obji:sorry,i have no ideas.i'm not good at english.
[09:04] <grouchygaijin> I'm having trouble with the language input method - I can switch languages in Kate or example but not open office.
[09:04] <cryptopsy> how do i serach for pkgs in ubuunt
[09:04] <ojii> chenlong, don't worry, got a livecd now
[09:05] <llutz_> cryptopsy: apt-cache search
[09:05] <sander^work> JoeMaverickSett, I have another machine where that package exist on that mirror.
[09:05] <xbonesx> any really good plymouth boot screens out their?
[09:06] <JoeMaverickSett> sander^work: might want to try that..if all else fails, trying asking in #ubuntu-server
[09:06] <chenlong> obji:What's you last sentence means?please.
[09:07] <StaRetji> What would be lifetime of usb stick if I install ubuntu on it, just like on plain hard drive? Any help regarding this would be highly appreciated. In other words, how long it will run until USB stick dies?
[09:07] <sander^work> JoeMaverickSett, asking there now.
[09:07] <chenlong> "nick ... fails"?
[09:07] <maedox> plitter: how did you install them? they can be removed with synaptic, apt-get or aptitude.
[09:08] <karthee>  Hi .. THere is an entry my ldap's ldif .. but ldapsearch is showing 0 success .. any ideas please ?
[09:08] <plitter> maedox: i downloaded them from http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ then used sudo dpkg -i on them
[09:09] <kiennd> I'm using ubuntu 10.04. I installed virtualbox 3.2.8 GuestOS is WindowXp. In the WindowXp machine I have a program to configure my device. This program uses an usb to com converter. After installing the driver on my virtual machine appears COM3 (the virtual com), but from my program can not access the device. Please help me how to solve this problem
[09:09] <grouchygaijin> Anyone understand how to use ibus and input method selector to switch languages?
[09:10] <mikubuntu> i have a 'new' hp scanner that a friend gave me, and it seems to be working right as far as saving images, but it is saving them in a .pnm filetype and open office doesn't seem to be able to open it
[09:11] <maedox> plitter: « man dpkg » ;)
[09:11] <maedox> plitter: I'll give you a moment to figure it out :D
[09:11] <chenlong> grouchygaijin:"Ctrl+space" call out and "Ctrl+Shift" switch.
[09:12] <Voting> If I want to understand what's going on w/ my network IO, should I use saidar? or what?
[09:13] <grouchygaijin> Hi all
[09:13] <tripelb> I bought a sansa fuze player from woot. computer doesnt recognize. sandisk lists no linux system. Oh no.  What can I do? computer does not see it.
[09:13] <mikubuntu> omg.  i just tried to open the .pnm scanned file with open office and i notice in the file browser its 131 mb's!!! how can that be?
[09:14] <Voting> how should I monitor network IO involving this particular box?
[09:14] <grouchygaijin> How can I switch languages in open office?  I can switch in Kate but not OO.
[09:14] <Voting> saidar any good?
[09:14] <pw-toxic> hi, when i do ping jabba2 i can ping myself on my computer, but other computers in the network cant do "ping jabba2"
[09:15] <pw-toxic> what do i have to do to make other computers know that my compuer is called jabba2?
[09:16] <plitter> maedox: sudo dpgk --purge linux-headers<myinstalled> linux-image<myinstalled>
[09:16] <plitter> maedox: right?:)
[09:17] <chenlong> mikbuntu:"ppmtobmp -bpp=24 a.pnm >a.bmp" or "Winamp" software.
[09:17] <maedox> plitter: yes :)
[09:18] <plitter> maedox: yay:D thanks:)
[09:19] <maedox> plitter: np. just make sure you keep the correct one.
[09:19] <plitter> maedox: i'm guessing its the linux-generic:)
[09:19] <chenlong> kiennd:Maybe you should download a usb driver.
[09:20] <kiennd> chenlong, I searched in google but not found
[09:20] <maedox> plitter: depends. that's the latest one.
[09:20] <kiennd> but i think no need
[09:21] <rebirth> how do you change the number of workspaces?
[09:21] <kiennd> because when I used a 3G usb
[09:21] <chenlong> kienned:Is it a spacial usb?
[09:21] <kiennd> It can change usb to com without any driver
[09:22] <plitter> maedox: it doesnt say any number, but there is a linux-generic, linux-headers-generic, linux-image-generic, the others are stuff that i installed:P
[09:22] <chenlong> huhu,maybe xp doesn't support 3G usb.
[09:22] <kiennd> chenlong, Is it a spacial usb --> it a pl2303 usb-com converter
[09:22] <rebirth> missing manual: Workspace Switcher Applet Manual
[09:23] <kiennd> chenlong, when I use 3G usb is OK
[09:23] <Kartagis> mencoder -of lavf -lavfopts format=mp4 -oac lavc -ovc lavc -lavcopts aglobal=1:vglobal=1:acodec=libmp3lame:abitrate=128:vcodec=mpeg4:keyint=25 -ofps 25 -af lavcresample=44100 -vf harddup,scale=320:-3 -mc 0 -noskip filename.avi -o filename.mp4 -sub filename.srt -subcp UTF-8 <--- I have this line but audio is not in sync with the video. any help for me?
[09:23] <maedox> plitter: linux-generic is a link to the latest generic kernel. you can see the version with aptitude show linux-generic
[09:23] <kiennd> but when I use PL2303 usb-com converter is not OK
[09:23] <chenlong> soory,idon't know it.
[09:24] <kiennd> use command dmesg I found mesage: usb 4-1: usbfs: process 31817 (VirtualBox) did not claim interface 0 before use
[09:26] <chenlong> kienned:Do you set the usb option in V-B?
[09:28] <chenlong> kienned:Maybe you should ask V-B community.
[09:29] <kiennd> chenlong, thanks
[09:32] <chenlong> Kartagis:Do you have decodes?
[09:33] <plitter> maedox: wish me luck, rebooting:P
[09:33] <maedox> plitter: good luck :D
[09:33] <meeeeee> i'v tried using ubuntu and mint as well...both get the same problem...after a while my cpu fans stop working n system gets over heated
[09:33] <plitter> maedox: thanks:D
[09:34] <Kartagis> chenlong decodes meaning codecs?
[09:35] <chenlong> Kartagis:codecs.My english is poor.ha~
[09:36] <nogo> codex
[09:36] <nogo> pl.
[09:37] <Kartagis> chenlong yes, all video and audio are okay, just they are not in sync
[09:38] <chenlong> what player?
[09:38] <bffs> which format?
[09:39] <nogo> every format, iirc
[09:40] <meeeeee> i'v tried using ubuntu and mint as well...both get the same problem...after a while my cpu fans stop working n system gets over heated
[09:40] <industrial> I have a problem with adding entries to GDM. I have done sudo cp /usr/share/xsessions/gnome.desktop /usr/share/xsessions/dwm.desktop and changed the contents accordingly (pointing to an executeable in my user's homedir (but I don't mind)). I do not get my dwm entry in the list of dwm. I'm dogin something wrong but I don't know what.
[09:41] <chenlong> Kartagis:set "audio" not be delay.
[09:41] <Kartagis> chenlong my phone. bffs mp4
[09:43] <chenlong> see above.Or maybe get a better player,i think.
[09:44] <[nTo]xShadyx> hello god people of the interwebs
[09:44] <chenlong> ha~ What kind of phone?Is it use ubuntu?ha~
[09:44] <nogo> meeeeee: you can sleep but you can't wake up, thanks to asus
[09:44] <[nTo]xShadyx> i have a question for u
[09:45] <glebihan> !ask | [nTo]xShadyx
[09:47] <[nTo]xShadyx> Me and some friends have a project on school where we are going to set up a server... here we have used Ubuntu Server, we have a bitt of experience before but!
[09:47] <[nTo]xShadyx> We cant get the internet connection, it gets an ip and we can ping different sites but to get internet connnectivity we need
[09:47] <[nTo]xShadyx> to logg on with username and pw to get internet.
[09:47] <[nTo]xShadyx> This usally pops up when  try to open our web browser on our laptops but how do we logg on in the console?
[09:47] <[nTo]xShadyx> The system that the school uses is the Microsoft Domain controll...
[09:47] <[nTo]xShadyx> Thx 4 anny help!
[09:47] <FloodBot2> [nTo]xShadyx: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:48] <jpds> [nTo]xShadyx: user/pass to get internet?
[09:49] <[nTo]xShadyx> yes
[09:49] <[nTo]xShadyx> we need to logg on with the user we have been given
[09:49] <boywonder> hi can anyone plse tell me how to activate vnc terminal client?
[09:49] <jpds> [nTo]xShadyx: So, use SSH or something like that?
[09:49] <[nTo]xShadyx> well wont work when we dont have internet on the server AT ALL
[09:50] <jpds> boywonder: System → Prefs → Remote Desktop?
[09:50] <jpds> [nTo]xShadyx: But it has an IP address and you can ping from it?
[09:50] <jpds> [nTo]xShadyx: So it has connectivity?
[09:50] <[nTo]xShadyx> yes
[09:50] <[nTo]xShadyx> we only have terminal and nothing more installed at the moment
[09:51] <boywonder> jpds that for the server not client?
[09:51] <[nTo]xShadyx> the server
[09:51] <maedox> [nTo]xShadyx: do you need a browser to auth? you could use « links ».
[09:51] <jpds> boywonder: Client: Apps → Internet → Remote Desktop Viewer.
[09:51] <Qwert_> I'm looking for good netbook in terms of performance. Which channel I can go for?
[09:51] <jpds> [nTo]xShadyx: What are you trying to accomplish?
[09:51] <llutz_> [nTo]xShadyx: i guess you need something like curl to login
[09:52] <astier> hi, ubuntu supports wpa2 wlan with the Live-CD right? can I create a way to automatically connect to a wlan network (as a kind of rescue CD)
[09:52] <astier> Qwert_: #hardware
[09:53] <minerzero69> is anyone running backtrack?
[09:53] <maedox> Qwert_: http://searchirc.com/
[09:53] <[nTo]xShadyx> to get internet so we can acsess sites to download pacages... we cant install curl when it cant acsess the internet
[09:53] <llutz_> !backtrack > minerzero69
[09:53] <riya>    
[09:53] <[nTo]xShadyx> the server dont have wireless card
[09:53] <maedox> [nTo]xShadyx: download the package to a usb-stick and copy it over?
[09:53] <tensorpudding> [nTo]xShadyx: perhaps you should talk with the network admin
[09:54] <astier> [nTo]xShadyx: wget. might be be part of the ubuntu default install
[09:54] <atan> I'm trying to tunnel traffic over OpenVPN but think I'm getting messed up with the routing on the ubuntu box. The VON connects but I can't re-route all my traffic to the vpn. No idea why. Anyone here able to assist?
[09:54] <[nTo]xShadyx> we tried talking to the admin
[09:54] <[nTo]xShadyx> the usb stick can be posible
[09:54] <[nTo]xShadyx> how are we going to do that
[09:54] <[nTo]xShadyx> ?
[09:54] <boywonder> jpds, im trying to connect to a windows machine?
[09:55] <tensorpudding> [nTo]xShadyx: does your school's network policy allow for private servers anyway?
[09:55] <ojii> is there alternatives to a reinstall when I get "General error mounting filesystems" on boot after an update? Mounting the FS from livecd works without problems
[09:55] <[nTo]xShadyx> kinda...
[09:55] <llutz_> ojii: check UUIDs and /etc/fstab using the live-cd
[09:55] <minerzero69> does anyone know how to bridge connections is ubuntu?
[09:55] <[nTo]xShadyx> the network admin have nothing against it but it is our county that are making troubles
[09:56] <cryptopsy> which mesa file do i have to install if i want to run opengl apps?
[09:56] <ojii> llutz_, uuid is correct
[09:56] <karthee> hi .. does any logs get produce when I do ldapseach ??
[09:56] <tensorpudding> [nTo]xShadyx: what do you mean?
[09:56] <llutz_> ojii: also checked menu.lst for correct UUID/dev ?
[09:56] <[nTo]xShadyx> how are we going to copy files from an usb stick over to the server?
[09:57] <minerzero69> if you know how to bridge connectioms in ubuntu, pm me
[09:57] <llutz_> [nTo]xShadyx: if you don't know how to copy a file, you shouldn't even think about running a server
[09:57] <[nTo]xShadyx> well we are doing this to learn
[09:58] <iceroot> [nTo]xShadyx: mount the stick and then use cp
[09:58] <minerzero69> drag and drop
[09:58] <iceroot> minerzero69: a server dont have a gui :)
[09:58] <[nTo]xShadyx> indeed
[09:58] <minerzero69> sorry, i am used to making one
[09:59] <llutz_> ojii: check the "root" and the "kernel" lines from menu.lst for correct devices
[09:59] <maedox> [nTo]xShadyx: sorry, I got a phone call. You can download packages without installing with apt-get -d package
[09:59] <maedox> [nTo]xShadyx: you might get more support in #ubuntu-server
[09:59] <tensorpudding> [nTo]xShadyx: You probably need to talk to your network admin, not us.
[09:59] <iceroot> [nTo]xShadyx: mkdir /mnt/mystick; mount /dev/sdXX /mnt/mystick; cp /mnt/mystick/yourfiles /place/to/put/them
[09:59] <[nTo]xShadyx> ok thx for all the help :D
[09:59] <ojii> llutz_, they're the same uuid's in menu.lst, what do you mean with "dev"?
[09:59] <[nTo]xShadyx> we apriciate it
[09:59] <llutz_> ojii: device
[10:00] <tensorpudding> [nTo]xShadyx: do you have a physical connection to the LAN or are you using a VPN?
[10:00] <[nTo]xShadyx> and sory for my bad english
[10:00] <[nTo]xShadyx> physical connection to the LAN
[10:00] <chenlong> [nTo]xSha:server also can use gui.
[10:00] <llutz_> ojii: /dev/sdXY when not using labels or UUIDs
[10:00] <ojii> llutz_, all looks sane to me
[10:01] <iceroot> llutz_: its there alway a wrapper for uuid -> /dev/sdX? so i always have /dev/sdX?
[10:01] <astier> karthee: grep -i -r ldap /var/log/*
[10:02] <maedox> [nTo]xShadyx: do you have another machine with linux and ssh access to the server?
[10:02] <astier> iceroot: yes you always have sdX (or hdX)
[10:02] <llutz_> iceroot: i don't think so, maybe udev can do that
[10:02] <karthee> astier: that contains the full logs .. I just want to  see what happend to my ldapsearch ..
[10:02] <astier> llutz_: sdX is set up by the kernel drivers. you always have those
[10:02] <ojii> llutz_, my menu.lst is http://ri.ms/ojiimenulst
[10:02] <iceroot> llutz_: if i am correct i saw a udev-uuid-wrapper-init-script on lenny
[10:02] <karthee> astier: I am having an entry which is there in  ldif, but ldapsearch is showing result: 0 .. \
[10:03] <iceroot> karthee: failed.ldif?
[10:03] <minerzero69> so is there a way to share an internet connection using ubuntu?
[10:03] <llutz_> astier: thats not the thing. you cannot be sure that UUID=123-321 always will be /dev/sdaX without external tools
[10:03] <iceroot> !ics | minerzero69
[10:04] <llutz_> iceroot: i always use UUIDs or labels so i don't care about device-names
[10:04] <astier> llutz_: agreed there
[10:04] <karthee> iceroot: ldif was successfully created .. that is I took a dump of my ldap .. Few entries which are there in the ldif file are not showing in the ldapseach .
[10:04] <minerzero69> thank you
[10:04] <kelvinella> is there phpmyadmin channel here?
[10:04] <iceroot> llutz_: i dont know if uuids are a good or bad thing, never had anything to do with them
[10:04] <iceroot> karthee: then i guess your ldapsearch is wrong
[10:05] <llutz_> iceroot: imho good thing, make things easier when changing drives/using external drives etc
[10:05] <iceroot> karthee: maybe you need an authenticated search?
[10:05] <karthee> iceroot: I checked with other entries also ..  Most of them are working . Few of them are failing ..
[10:05] <karthee> iceroot: yes I am doing authenticated search ..
[10:06] <iceroot> karthee: or maybe they are not in the index, so you cant use ldapsearch -x uid=foobar  you have to use the complete dn
[10:06] <iceroot> karthee: maybe try #openldap too
[10:06] <DjAngo23> Hey everyone, i' m looking for some info about NFS. I already added to /etc/fstab etc, but i am wondering if there is some kind of user permission. Is there a authentification possibility ? Or can we assign user and rights to the files ?
[10:06] <iceroot> kelvinella: #phpmyadmin i guess
[10:06] <karthee> iceroot: #openldap no response for 2 days ..
[10:06] <kelvinella> \j #phpmyadmin
[10:06] <ojii> llutz_, anything obviously wrong you see in the menu.lst i pasted?
[10:07] <karthee> iceroot: its the same level entries, for few of them its failing but for the others its working ..
[10:07] <iceroot> DjAngo23: with nfsv4, there is
[10:07] <tensorpudding> DjAngo23: You can do host-based exports
[10:07] <llutz_> ojii: oh sorry, i don't have www here, so i cannot look.
[10:07] <iceroot> karthee: sounds strange for me
[10:07] <tensorpudding> DjAngo23: and with NFS shares, the owners and permissions are mapped
[10:07] <ojii> :(
[10:07] <karthee> iceroot: Can you advice if few entries can be missed in indexing ?
[10:07] <iceroot> DjAngo23: nfvs4 can do user-authentication
[10:07] <ojii> llutz_, you don't have www, but are on IRC?
[10:08] <iceroot> ojii: why not?
[10:08] <llutz_> ojii:yes
[10:08] <Rods_Tiger> I installed a dual boot system for someone and they are scared by the grub screen and refuse to use it now
[10:08] <tensorpudding> DjAngo23: so files owned by UID 1001 on the NFS share, will appear to be owned by UID 1001 when mounted on the client.
[10:08] <ojii> llutz_, can I PM it to you?
[10:08] <astier> ojii: what is the problem you have with your boot up?
[10:08] <llutz_> ojii: sure
[10:08] <ojii> astier, "General error mounting filesystems"
[10:09] <astier> ojii: does the fs mount alright when in the livecd? ran fsck on it?
[10:09] <astier> ojii: and when does this "general error" coming up?
[10:09] <duffs-main> Hey, I'm trying to change my time/date but it says I don't have authorisitaion, how do i get it?
[10:09] <astier> ojii: from what I remember linux kernel/mount messages are diffedrent
[10:09] <Rods_Tiger> can grub2 limit the amount of irrelevant technical nonsense shown, and just show two choices, even when the kernel has been updated?
[10:09] <DjAngo23> Okay, that appears clear to me. What i have is a server with a NFS share, but i don' t want everyone to be able to change the files. Some folder should be editable for some user, and for some other user editable.
[10:10] <llutz_> ojii: grep -v ^# menu.lst            would have been shorter :)
[10:10] <DjAngo23> for iceroot and tensorpudding
[10:10] <tripelb> I bought a sansa fuze player from woot. computer doesnt recognize. sandisk lists no linux system. Oh no.  What can I do? computer does not see it.  -- no answer in an hour. Any chance now. I'm ready to go to sleep...
[10:10] <erUSUL> Rods_Tiger: you can remove old kernels frm synaptic
[10:10] <Rods_Tiger> they can't
[10:10] <duffs-main> Hey, I'm trying to change my time/date but it says I don't have authorization, how do i get it?
[10:10] <astier> duffs-main: sudo/gksu
[10:10] <ojii> astier, yes it does
[10:10] <ojii> astier, also it actually does fsck before it tries to boo
[10:10] <duffs-main> what?
[10:10] <ojii> astier, when i boot my notebook after the kernel update i did yesterday, it's 9.10 btw
[10:10] <duffs-main> astier what?
[10:10] <Rods_Tiger> it has to be easy for them to use - they refuse to touch it now because grub is too technical and confusing for them
[10:10] <ojii> llutz_, true, sorry
[10:10] <FloodBot2> ojii: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:10] <tensorpudding> DjAngo23: you can reflect that in the file permissions
[10:11] <astier> duffs-main: you need to have admin rights to change the date
[10:11] <tripelb> well I guess it's back to windows.
[10:11] <ojii> o.O? why does floodbot complain about my PMs?
[10:11] <duffs-main> Yes, astier, i do
[10:11] <astier> ojii: not your PMs
[10:11] <ojii> I'm not spamming :(
[10:11] <duffs-main> So, how astier?
[10:11] <iceroot> DjAngo23: the problem is that nfs is only using uids, so if you create a file belonging to root (uid=1??) then any other root (also have uid=1) is owner of the file
[10:11] <astier> welcome to computer "intelligence". it doesn't always work ojii
[10:12] <ojii> astier, indeed, anyway. got any idea about my boot issues?
[10:12] <duffs-main> Hey, I'm trying to change my time/date but it says I don't have authorization, how do i get it?
[10:12] <duffs-main> Hey, I'm trying to change my time/date but it says I don't have authorization, how do i get it?
[10:12] <astier> duffs-main: read up on how to become "root" or "admin" via sudo in the ubuntu docs
[10:12] <DjAngo23> iceroot, okaym, i understand bit more now.
[10:12] <astier> ojii: I asked you something
[10:12] <duffs-main> Thanks astier, I know my own password, How do i do it?
[10:12] <rebirth> how do i change the # of workspaces?
[10:12] <tensorpudding> DjAngo23: the permissions are passed along as is, so in order to use NFS you have to be able to have the same UID's
[10:12] <ojii> astier, it comes after fsck
[10:13] <ojii> (which passses afaik)
[10:13] <duffs-main> Thanks astier, I know my own password, How do i do it?
[10:13] <duffs-main> Hey, I'm trying to change my time/date but it says I don't have authorization, how do i get it?
[10:13] <tensorpudding> DjAngo23: there is the noroot option to prevent root from transfering over
[10:13] <astier> !repeat > duffs-main
[10:13] <DjAngo23> But because i' m not logging in into the server, i can mount the NFS share from the server. It just doesn' t recognize in anyway wich user i am on the server. Like for example de FTP protocol.
[10:14] <duffs-main> Hey, I'm trying to change my time/date but it says I don't have authorization, how do i get it?
[10:14] <DjAngo23> My goel is assigning the same forlder to different users like the ftp protocol, so that i can manage users permissions. But still i want to mount that file localy.
[10:14] <Andrey_ubuntu> hello. When I run video, it is dark. How I can reinstall all codecs?
[10:15] <astier> Andrey_ubuntu: which videoplayer?
[10:15] <riya> what is .deb file
[10:15] <astier> riya: a .deb file is what software for ubuntu comes in. "installers"
[10:15] <tensorpudding> riya: it's a tarball full of binary stuff, and some information useful for dpkg
[10:15] <meeeeee> is it possible tht if i am using ubuntu bu installing it via wubi...so my ubuntu installation can have issues? like after some time (random times sometimes its after 30 mins sometimes more) my screen goes black shows some message about pulse audio and below tht about battery state ...but after showing this for 30 seconds the monitor goes black and starts blinking and only option is to restart...m very new to linux and ubuntu
[10:15] <xbonesx> are there any really big differences between linux mint and ubuntu?
[10:15] <chenlong> obji:maybe you can boot by live-cd and take out the important dates with usb disk,then make a new 10.04 ubuntu.
 in all totem and vlc. I have reinstalled their with mode --purge but it didn't help
[10:16] <riya> astier ok.. means we install it in red-hat linux
[10:16] <astier> riya: ask redhat, not us. we do ubuntu support only
[10:16] <duffs-main> Hey, I'm trying to change my time/date but it says I don't have authorization, how do i get it? I know my own password
[10:16] <tensorpudding> riya: Red Hat uses RPM, which is an entirely different format.
[10:17] <DjAngo23> tensorpudding, iceroot :But because i' m not logging in into the server, i can mount the NFS share from the server. It just doesn' t recognize in anyway wich user i am on the server. Like for example de FTP protocol.
[10:17] <astier> Andrey_ubuntu: try reinstalling ffmpeg, tho usually vlc has everything compiled in
[10:17] <DjAngo23> tensorpudding, iceroot : My goal is assigning the same forlder to different users like the ftp protocol, so that i can manage users permissions. But still i want to mount that file localy.
[10:17] <tensorpudding> riya: There *might* be a tool to convert, but it's probably not worth it.
[10:17] <tensorpudding> riya: You're better off compiling from source and building an RPM package
[10:17] <astier> tensorpudding: there is. alien, but we still don#t support rh here :)
 I have reinstalled already.
[10:17] <chenlong> obji:Next time,you can upgrade the kernel only at first,then upgrade softwares.
[10:17] <tensorpudding> riya: I thought alien converted RPM to DEB, not the other way around
[10:18] <duffs-main> Hey, I'm trying to change my time/date but it says I don't have authorization, how do i get it? I know my own password
[10:18] <iceroot> DjAngo23: nfsv4 is recognising the user
[10:18] <iceroot> DjAngo23: i dont know if ubuntu has nfsv4
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[10:19] <duffs-main> Hey, I'm trying to change my time/date but it says I don't have authorization, how do i get it? I know my own password
[10:20] <erUSUL> duffs-main: system>admin...>date and time. has a button to unlock the permissions
[10:20] <Richiie> Anyone knows any war simulation software ?
[10:20] <chenlong> duffs-main:"sudo date ..."
[10:20] <tensorpudding> duffs-main: use sudo
[10:20] <astier> duffs-main: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuTime#Ubuntu%20Time%20Management
[10:20] <kjelle> Hello. How can I take 1 self-signed certificate, and verify that another certificate is signed with this self-signed certificate?
[10:22] <Richiie> Anyone knows about any War simulation software ?
[10:22] <chenlong> kjelle:"system"->"sysyem manager"->"user and group"
[10:22] <kjelle> chenlong: ?
[10:22] <industrial> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/NonGraphicalBoot Option 3 DOES NOT work. I can n ot get GDM not to start at boot.
[10:22] <industrial> the symlinkx are not there in /etc/rc*.d/ but it WILL start anyway
[10:22] <chenlong> kjelle:that is gui
[10:23] <Andrey_ubuntu> astier: http://xmages.net/show.php/1849765_screenshot-png.html
[10:23] <llutz_> industrial: add "text" to the grub boot-options
[10:23] <industrial> thats a fucked up solution man, I remove gdm and the OS decides to do it anyway, that's just wrong.
[10:23] <industrial> but thanks
[10:23] <erUSUL> Richiie: "War simulation software" ? a game?
[10:23] <kjelle> chenlong: hmm ok
[10:24] <maco> !language | industrial
[10:24] <astier> Andrey_ubuntu: video driver issue perhaps?
[10:24] <maco> industrial: option 3 does not remove gdm. "sudo apt-get remove gdm" removes gdm
[10:24] <llutz_> industrial: seems to be the way upstart/gdm2 handle that stuff today.
[10:24] <duffs-main> Hey, I'm trying to change my time/date but it says I don't have authorization, how do i get it? I know my own password
[10:24] <kjelle> chenlong: I have no system manager :)
[10:24] <maco> industrial: option 3 just gets rid of the init scripts...or /would/ if ubuntu used init. which it doesnt anymore
[10:24] <llutz_> !runlevel > industrial
[10:24] <kjelle> I was more wondering if I could e.g. use OpenSSL to do it.
[10:24] <chenlong> that is just a items.
[10:25] <astier> kjelle: you can. get a howto of the form "how to create your own CA"
[10:25] <chenlong> ubuntu desktop must has it.
[10:25] <astier> kjelle: but kinda OT for #ubuntu...
[10:25] <industrial> I guess theres a new way of configuring grub aswell since I can't find my grub menu.lst ...
[10:25] <erUSUL> !grub2 | industrial
[10:26] <duffs-main> How do i run as root? I'm logged in and I know my password, How do i do it?
[10:26] <astier> !root
[10:26] <erUSUL> industrial: edit /etc/default/grub and then run « sudo update-grub »
[10:26] <duffs-main> YOU KILLED ME
[10:27] <duffs-main> I just want root and I get hit with bullsh*t philosphy and a link? Hell no! If an answer is an answer than your not the right person. Astier, never talk to me
[10:27] <maco> !language | duffs-main
[10:27] <kjelle> astier: OT?
[10:27] <thune3> !rootshell | duffs-main
[10:27] <Leroy> duffs-main: you can type sudo before the command you want to do
[10:27] <astier> kjelle: how to run your own CA is Offtopic here, yes
[10:28] <chenlong> ubottu:rebboot ->"covery mode"->"sudo login".but it's dangous!
[10:28] <duffs-main> Leroy, I want to change my time to whatever I want it to be
[10:28] <astier> duffs-main: I gave you a link to a page (official ubuntu docs) which tells you how to do it several ways. choose one
[10:29] <Leroy> duffs-main: sudo date
[10:29] <duffs-main> Astier, I told you that not only is that page wrong, but for you yo NOT talk to me
[10:29] <astier> kjelle: http://www.google.de/search?sourceid=navclient&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGLJ,GGLJ:2006-36,GGLJ:de&q=how+to+create+a+CA
[10:30] <astier> kjelle: has some howtos for me.
[10:30] <chenlong> duffs-main:"date" command includes time setting.
[10:30] <duffs-main> chenlong, what?
[10:30] <astier> chenlong: you're funny. you're right too but do you honestly thing he can figure out how touse it?
[10:30] <astier> *think
[10:31] <chenlong> "date" can set date and time.
[10:31] <shatly> duffs-main: what you trying to do?
[10:31] <duffs-main> How chenlog?!
[10:31] <Leroy> http://unixhelp.ed.ac.uk/CGI/man-cgi?date
[10:31] <duffs-main> shatly, I'm trying to gain root access to my own computer. I know my password..
[10:31] <folivora> Hello, any clue about this: add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntugis/ubuntugis-unstable. I get this error: <urlopen error [Errno 111] Connection refused>
[10:31] <deena> Hi i installed ubuntu 10.04 while using internet it seems to be slow.. any idea is there needs to be updated?
[10:31] <industrial> llutz_, maco, erUSUL; thanks got it working now. Is there any reason for the 'old' system to still be in place if Ubuntu no longer uses it? This confused me because the Ubuntu docs referenced it aswell as the rest of google.
[10:31] <industrial> (the init system)
[10:31] <duffs-main> Leroy none of those are right, ever
[10:32] <astier> industrial: fallback. historical reasons
[10:32] <maco> industrial: older still-supported versions of ubuntu still use it, so the docs for it are still around
[10:32] <Leroy> duffs-main: maybe this will help http://codeghar.wordpress.com/2007/12/06/manage-time-in-ubuntu-through-command-line/
[10:32] <erUSUL> industrial: there are services that still use the old init V system.
[10:32] <chenlong> astier:If he don't want use command,he did't ask.
[10:32] <dancek> duffs-main, a) see `date --help` and `man date` b) did you really read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo#root%20account c) you should check your attitude
[10:32] <astier> chenlong: he is not capable of using it, that's all. and he doesn't like if you point him to docs either :)
[10:32] <erUSUL> the conversion is not complete afaik.
[10:32] <maco> industrial: things are migrating to upstart from init, and while i think most/all of the base system has moved, things like apache might not have
[10:33] <maedox> industrial: as an example the postgres-8.4 package in lucid still uses sys-initv or whatever it's called.
[10:33] <maco> sysv-init
[10:33] <rww> apache has, but I assume some things in universe haven't.
[10:33] <maedox> close :D
[10:33] <visof_> is there anyone here playing with games in ubuntu ?
[10:33] <maco> rww: ooh really? i know bind9 hasnt
[10:33] <astier> !anyone
[10:33] <ikonia> visof_: ask your real question
[10:33] <chenlong> astier::)
[10:33] <maedox> visof_: yes, I use Crossover Games to play Steam games once in a while.
[10:34] <thune3> dancek: chenlong: date just print the time, it doesn't do anything else, no?
[10:34] <visof_> i have a error when i try to start ut2004 , is there anyone make it works at ubuntu?
[10:34] <shatly> duffs-main :http://linux.die.net/man/5/sudoers
[10:34] <shatly> you in that?
[10:34] <maedox> ubottu should trigger that automatically whenever someone says "is there anyone" :P
[10:34] <rww> date -s: "set time described by STRING"
[10:34] <dancek> thune3, date --set
[10:34] <rww> yay for manpages.
[10:34] <chenlong> astier:I just and excise my English.
[10:34] <maedox> thune3: you can format the time as you like and also set it with date.
[10:35] <chenlong> And,help someone as I can.
[10:35] <thune3> sorry, i'm on my "other" system, and the manpage doesn't show any of the hwclock functions rolled into date. my apologies
[10:35] <rww> manpages.ubuntu.com <3
[10:35] <chenlong> Gui is neccessary for new user.
[10:36] <thune3> i thought it was so standard that I could rely on this system. ooops
[10:36] <rww> jpc42: now ask for help in here
[10:36] <jpc42> hi ok thanks rww
[10:36] <xeross> Hey, I am trying to install curl but it never finishes, using sudo aptitude install curl it's stuck at unpacking
[10:36] <rww> (to the whole channel, I'm about to go sleep)
[10:37] <jpc42> i request a small help please, i have installed for the first time Ubuntu Server but he don't have requested the root password
[10:37] <jpc42> anyone know if they have a defaut pass ?
[10:37] <llutz_> !root
[10:37] <llutz_> jpc42: ^^
[10:38] <xeross> sudo passwd
[10:38] <xeross> :)
[10:38] <tensorpudding> Do people really ask about the root password in Ubuntu three times an hour?
[10:38] <shatly> To enable the root account (i.e. set a password) use:
[10:38] <shatly> sudo passwd root
[10:38] <shatly> lol
[10:38] <xeross> sudo passwd
[10:38] <xeross> works just fine without the root argument
[10:39] <maedox> !root | jpc42
[10:39] <chenlong> What's "lol" means?
[10:39] <llutz_> tensorpudding: on quiet days
[10:39] <maedox> They should sell t-shirts with « Got sudo? »  xD
[10:39] <rww> chenlong: laugh out loud
[10:39] <chenlong> :)
[10:40] <llutz_> chenlong: "i'm trying to make a lame joke nobody laughs about" = lol
[10:40] <Leroy> lol maedox
[10:40] <tensorpudding> I have to admit, sometimes I forget and wonder why 'su -' isn't working
[10:40] <rebirth> how do i change the # of workspaces?
[10:40] <jpc42> ok thanks for your help, i have understand
[10:41] <skumara> how to check dvd for errors?
[10:41] <xeross> Ok back on topic, curl wont install for some reason
[10:41] <pLr> xeross: errormsg?
[10:42] <xeross> pLr: It's stuck at unpacking
[10:42] <xeross> pLr: 10 minutes now, CTRL+C doesn't work either
[10:42] <chenlong> Is any Chinese here?
[10:42] <llutz_> !cn > chenlong
[10:43] <chenlong> ubottu:how?
[10:43] <astier> chenlong: depends on your irc client
[10:43] <Leroy> chenlong: what irc client you use? there should be a tab to see the private message
[10:43] <astier> chenlong: usually a new window
[10:43] <tensorpudding> rebirth: right-click on the workspace switcher and try configuring it
[10:43] <rebirth> who here uses compiz?
[10:43] <rww> !cn | chenlong
[10:43] <rww> problem solved.
[10:44] <astier> rebirth: ask your specific question please
[10:44] <rebirth> tensorpudding: where can i find the workspace switcher?
[10:44] <rebirth> astier: that was my specific question, i'm curious if it is a popular thing
[10:44] <chenlong> ubottu:Do you have a QQ?
[10:44] <tensorpudding> rebirth: it's usually near the bottom-right of the screen
[10:44] <astier> !popcon
[10:44] <rww> chenlong: ubottu is a bot, so no.
[10:45] <pLr> xeross: i would suggest you kill the process and restart it, you should check process activity before ctrl+c did u see anything?
[10:45] <chenlong> what's "bot"?
[10:45] <rebirth> tensorpudding: it's not
[10:45] <karmic-koala> hi all, how do i change my default chat client from empathy to pidgin, i want pidgin to start when i click on CHAT in messaging menu (indicator applet)
[10:45] <chenlong> :)
[10:45] <astier> chenlong: ubottu is a program, not a human
[10:45] <rww> chenlong: computer program for giving out answers to common questions
[10:45] <icarus-c> chenlong, bot as in robot
[10:45] <Leroy> :)
[10:45] <chenlong> ha~
[10:46] <shatly> whats a chenlong
[10:46] <shatly> =P
[10:46] <icarus-c> /whois  :P
[10:46] <rebirth> i found it, needed to add workspace switcher to the panel
[10:46] <shatly> i like /msg nickserv info
[10:47] <tensorpudding> huh, i honestly forgot how you configure it without using the workspace switcher or the compiz config settings manager
[10:47] <chenlong> what's a "shatly"?
[10:47] <pLr> tensorpudding: try fusion-icon
[10:47] <shatly> well... if you want the full history of my nic we can pm or go over to ubuntu-offtopic
[10:49] <pLr> tensorpudding: it integrates ccsm
[10:49] <chenlong> I have seen the private message.
[10:49] <xeross> Package file was corrupted apparently
[10:49] <pLr> !cn | chenlong
[10:50] <shatly> lol
[10:50] <pLr> chenlong: you asked for chinese support?
[10:50] <shatly> !offtopic | chenlong
[10:50] <tobiasz> hi there, I've got a little question regarding networking, in Windows there was a command "net view" which displayed all ip adresses of pcs/devices connected to LAN, is there an equivalent in Linux terminal?
[10:50] <chenlong> Is  ubottu made by the lisp?
[10:51] <tensorpudding> tried running fusion-icon for the giggles, and it seemed to make everything go crazy at once
[10:51] <tensorpudding> now my glx-panel seems to have gone invisible
[10:51] <pLr> tobiasz: try netstat -a
[10:51] <chenlong> pLr:Maybe.
[10:51] <pLr> tobiasz: or netstat -ap
[10:51] <Ekips> Hrm, no, net view is about smb shares and the domain
[10:51] <tensorpudding> killed gnome-do also
[10:52] <pLr> chenlong: i do not know but who codes irc bots in lisp anyways?
[10:52] <pLr> tensorpudding: you can switch window managers with the taskbar icon
[10:52] <chenlong> pLr:PHP?
[10:53] <pLr> !ubottu
[10:53] <tensorpudding> pLr: I'm just saying, is that normal behavior for running fusion-icon to crash several running desktop programs?
[10:53] <Ekips> So supybot
[10:55] <tobiasz> pLr this command is nuts :P I just want to see devices connected to my network
[10:56] <Ekips> tobiasz: "net view" shows your smb shares and domain info
[10:56] <Ekips> You need to install and setup samba for that
[10:56] <Ekips> Then you can use net status sessions or net status shares in linux
[10:56] <llutz_> tobiasz: sudo nmap -sP 192.168.0.0/24      or whatever network you're in
[10:56] <Ekips> heh
[10:58] <nikolam> Hi. I Have 2 SATA Hdd
[10:58] <rebirth> i run "sudo tasksel install lamp-server" and it says "tasksel: aptitude failed (100)" anyone know why?
[10:58] <maedox> nikolam: keep it all on one line!
[10:58] <pLr> tobiasz: Ekips is correct.. what are you trying to do from your linux machine?
[10:58] <tobiasz> llutz_ there is no such command
[10:59] <pLr> tobiasz: you need to install the nmap package.. what is your goal?
[10:59] <tobiasz> pLr I am trying to get all ip's of pcs/devices connected to my LAN
[10:59] <llutz_> tobiasz: then learn how to install software on your system
[11:00] <tobiasz> I want to check if no one is connecting my network without my knowledge
[11:00] <pLr> tobiasz: right so try "sudo apt-get install nmap" then the command llutz_ typed before
[11:01] <mm3> hello, do you suggest to buy the desktop ubuntu CD?
[11:01] <fabjan> Hello, when I try to add an iso in the startup disc creator by clicking "browse..." nothing happens when I double click an iso or click open with the iso selected
[11:01] <mickster04> mm3: why not download it and burn yourself?
[11:01] <nikolam> Hi. I have 2SATA Hdd, and I have Ubuntu 10.04 on 2 partition on md software Linux RAID1. Now I want to install Windows 7 on 2 primary partitions in RAID0 fakeraid (driver/hardware supported) configuration and retain multiboot so I can continue using my Ubuntu install, like before. Will Windows kill ubuntu? Can I count ubuntu partitions surviving this Windows install after getting back GRUB in?
[11:01] <mickster04> mm3: burn IT yourself*
[11:02] <fabjan> the list "Source disc image (.iso) or CD:" in the GUI has two isos I used before but I can't add anything to the list
[11:02] <Lollipop56> mm3, check my pm
[11:02] <pLr> !vm | nikolam
[11:02] <tassleho1f> I'm trying out Vinagre. It connects to my remote desktop, but doesn't refresh.
[11:02] <mm3> ok thanks
[11:03] <chenlong> mm3:To support ubuntu,it's good.But for other,no necessary,becase you can nurn one CD or DVD.
[11:03] <nikolam> Anyway, does does Ubuntu 10.04+ requres GRUB2 to boot or it could boot using GRUB1 installed by some other OS?
[11:03] <nikolam> (I have small /boot ext2 partition on begining of the disks)
[11:03] <nikolam> I know that pLr I dont want that.
[11:04] <mm3> right, in 10 minutes I'm downloading a full iso lol, not idea it was so fast
[11:04] <chenlong> mm3:so speed!
[11:05] <pLr> nikolam: yes it can, but when installing windows 7 after ubuntu u will face several issues, you should follow a guide
[11:06] <pLr> nikolam: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1014708
[11:07] <duffs-main> Hello I keep getting this error, http://img26.imageshack.us/i/123za.png how do i stop it?
[11:07] <mungustas> hi, how do I run a detached screen and a command inside it. I want to send command tro ssh to another server inside screen so I can attach to it later, or see how update or smth. went
[11:08] <chenlong> I have to have a dinner.BYE-BYE!
[11:08] <mickster04> mungustas: screen ?
[11:08] <nikolam> pLr, since I have 1) boot partition 2) primary pratitions i want to make for windows 3)extended partition one raid1 linux second swap I am only afraid if windows would go over some of my partitions (like killing that boot one, etc)
[11:08] <llutz_> mungustas: ctrl-d-a     inside screen
[11:08] <duffs-main> Hello I keep getting this error, http://img26.imageshack.us/i/123za.png how do i stop it?
[11:08] <llutz_> a-d sry
[11:08] <nikolam> thank you for link pLr
[11:08] <mickster04> mungustas: ctrl+a then d
[11:09] <tassleho1f> I have vnc working, sharing the desktop of my user, but I want to be able to do remote login
[11:09] <pLr> nikolam: and it will. it will remove it you must reinstall grub after the windows 7 install
[11:09] <blackbox> !ping
[11:09] <blackbox> laul
[11:09] <thune3> nikolam: ubuntu maintains /vmlinuz and /initrd.img links in /, that would be handy when hand setting grub1 to boot ubuntu. These links get updated with kernel upgrades, so you wouldn't have to update grub after every ubuntu kernel upgrade.
[11:09] <duffs-main> Hello I keep getting this error, http://img26.imageshack.us/i/123za.png how do i stop it?
[11:10] <mungustas> emm
[11:10] <mungustas> me/user does not interact with the screen guys ;]
[11:10] <fabjan> usb-creator0gtk says isoinfo: Unable to find Joliet SVD
[11:10] <mickster04> mungustas: i don't understand....
[11:11] <thune3> duffs-main: is that an attack
[11:11] <nikolam> thune3, so if I understand.. It is better NOT to use separate /boot partition? But to directly boot from / partition and/or using GRUB1 ?
[11:11] <fabjan> when I start it from the command line and add -i ubuntu-10.04-desktop-powerpc.iso which is the iso I wanted to use
[11:11] <duffs-main> thune3, yes an attack on anything not retarded. how do i permanetly kill it
[11:11] <mickster04> mungustas: the screen session is run on a single pc, you can ssh into a server and run a screen session on there then you do the shortcut to get out of screen and you can disconnect. when you later ocme back to the server you screen -r and get back into it
[11:11] <fabjan> well, it says that for any iso I try to supply
[11:11] <mungustas> task: send a e.x update command to another server inside the screen so you can login to that server in the e.x morning and check how it went
[11:11] <duffs-main> Hello I keep getting this error, http://img26.imageshack.us/i/123za.png how do i stop it?
[11:11] <pLr> mickster04: screen has been replaced by byobu
[11:12] <thune3> duffs-main: it is a 1 pixel image, there is only 24bits if information there, not enough to be informative
[11:12] <mickster04> pLr: ?
[11:12] <duffs-main> serious?
[11:12] <mickster04> pLr: well i still use screen?
[11:12] <glebihan> duffs-main: yep
[11:12] <pLr> its integrated into byobu
[11:12] <duffs-main> fuck hold up
[11:12] <frank__> hi
[11:12] <mickster04> pLr: so whats the difference?
[11:12] <glebihan> !language | duffs-main
[11:12] <pLr> mickster04: many additions, try it
[11:12] <frank__> is there a easy way to rip DVDs except using dd? I'd like to have a divx file
[11:13] <pLr> mickster04: some of the monitors are unstable over putty if u use that
[11:13] <ikonia> frank__: dd ?? that shouln't be used to rip DVD's
[11:13] <ikonia> frank__:there are many tools in the ubuntu software repos,
[11:13] <thune3> nikolam: are you trying to pile all your kernels into a single /boot from various OS? that's not necessary. I thought you already have grub1 from other OS, and simply wish to edit the menu.lst to boot ubuntu.
[11:13] <mickster04> pLr: hum:( i like screen, i refer the word :P
[11:13] <frank__> ikonia: can you name some of them, or better: recommend one, please?
[11:13] <maedox> mickster04: alias? :P
[11:14] <pLr> mickster04: its ok everyone has their taste
[11:14] <van7hu> Hi everyone
[11:14] <mickster04> maedox: ah yes of course :P
[11:14] <ikonia> frank__: just do a search for dvd in the repos, a ton should appear
[11:14] <van7hu> I am using lucid
[11:14] <ikonia> frank__: all are good, try some
[11:14] <mickster04> mungustas: so what are you wanting to do..i don't understand
[11:14] <mungustas> mickster04 well if you have more than one server
[11:14] <van7hu> desktop version
[11:14] <mickster04> mungustas: what about that...
 task: send a e.x update command to another server inside the screen so you can login to that server to that screen in the e.x morning and check how it went
[11:15] <nikolam> thune3, well, that is good option. I might install ubuntu-s grub2 inside / of ubuntu and use other system's GRUB1 to do what you are saying.
[11:15] <glebihan> !enter | van7hu
[11:15] <duffs-main> Hello I keep getting this error, http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/4459/123cl.png how do i stop it?
[11:15] <thune3> nikolam: exactly, if you leave grub2 and /boot under ubuntu's /, then you could just use the links from grub1 to boot, as you suggest.
[11:16] <van7hu> How can I access a device that its name has space ?
[11:16] <mickster04> nikolam: the screen session has to be on that server though
[11:16] <mungustas> let's say ssh root@server2 'screen -some_fancy_keys_or_workaround 'apt-get update && apt-get upgrade -y'
[11:16] <ikonia> duffs-main: what application is that
[11:16] <mickster04> van7hu: name\ name
[11:16] <duffs-main> system>administration>time and date. ikonia
[11:17] <mickster04> mungustas: you prolly want to ssh into the server, then run screen then do the command...then ctrl+a, d then log out. log back in in the morning
[11:17] <ikonia> duffs-main: what happens when you click the padlock
[11:17] <mickster04> mungustas: prolly = probably*
[11:17] <duffs-main> nothing
[11:17] <nikolam> thune3, Maybe I could only copy now used ubuntu /boot to / /boot and then install grub2 on / before putting another system.
[11:18] <duffs-main> ikonia, what padlock
[11:18] <van7hu> It seem doesn't work
[11:18] <mickster04> van7hu: use the tab key, it autofills
[11:18] <glebihan> van7hu: you can also enclose the name in brackets
[11:18] <ikonia> duffs-main: when you open that application, do you need see an option to say "click here" next to a padlock, or does it open as that photo shows
[11:18] <mickster04> van7hu: fir{tab}st < auto completed
[11:19] <rascal999> if i create a SOCKS tunnel on a linux box, can i force all network activity down it?
[11:19] <duffs-main> ikonia, where is this padlock?
[11:19] <van7hu> -:)
[11:19] <ikonia> rascal999: not all software is socks-ifyable
[11:19] <ikonia> duffs-main: when you open that application, do you need see an option to say "click here" next to a padlock, or does it open as that photo shows
[11:19] <van7hu> it's working,thank you
[11:19] <pLr> mungustas: forget about screen for now, what do u want to do?
[11:19] <duffs-main> ikonia, it just open as the photo shows it
[11:19] <mungustas> mickster04 well i dont want to interact, i want to send command to couple of servers
[11:19] <ikonia> duffs-main: can you please open a terminal and type "id" and paste me the output please
[11:19] <mickster04> pLr: well no, if he does apt-get update he won't be able to check progress afterwards
[11:20] <mungustas> well i searched the web, googled it
[11:20] <mickster04> mungustas: well thats what you'r trying to do in one command anyway?
[11:20] <thune3> nikolam: i'm not sure i followed that one. on a system that has multiple OS and is working great with grub1 from other OS, i'd be inclined to keep it and remove grub1/2 from ubuntu.
[11:20] <duffs-main> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/6VqEFmMG
[11:20] <mungustas> well i think about screen because i want to reattach to it later
[11:21] <ikonia> duffs-main: if you do "sudo apt-get update" what happens ?
[11:21] <pLr> mickster04: you can pipe the output to another file and read that
[11:21] <rascal999> ikonia: ok is it possible to force all network activity which originates from a client connected to this gateway linux box?
[11:21] <mickster04> mungustas: basically you are going to send a command that ssh's into a server, starts a screen session and then run update inside that screen session. you can do it like i said just as well and you can get it done now?
[11:21] <ikonia> rascal999: no
[11:21] <mickster04> pLr: oh yeah
[11:21] <duffs-main> oh god, ikonia, lots of words come out
[11:21] <mungustas> so i want to start a deattached screen with a command inside it, with possibility to get back to that screen and see what happened
[11:21] <ikonia> duffs-main: thats ok - wait for it to finish and just summerise what happens
[11:21] <pLr> mickster04: apt-get install package | tee -a filename
[11:22] <ikonia> duffs-main: do you get asked for a password
[11:22] <duffs-main> ikonia, no
[11:22] <mickster04> mungustas: yeah, so why not just seperate that into a cople of command and its the same thing. however plr is onto something too
[11:22] <mungustas> yeah sure
[11:22] <mungustas> whatever works :)
[11:22] <pLr> mickster04: there are many ways to do this, but your experience level will determine which u like
[11:23] <mungustas> i was reading screen manual and keys
[11:23] <pLr> sry that was 4 mungustas
[11:23] <ikonia> duffs-main: please do "gksudo time-admin" from the command line
[11:23] <mickster04> pLr: :D
[11:23] <duffs-main> IT WORKED
[11:23] <duffs-main> :3 ikonia thanks
[11:23] <MDKDIO> Afternoon :)  Question if ok? (an easy one, just need confirmation)
[11:24] <glebihan> !ask | MDKDIO
[11:24] <pLr> mungustas: you can also try ssh server apt-get install pkg \| tee -a filename, you would see the output from the client
[11:25] <pLr> mungustas: but catching error codes is tricky you should read about it
[11:25] <MDKDIO> I am using 10.04 atm ... and after qbittorrent got updated to 2.04 I am having some issues rel to libtorrent.. Question, libtorrent is not updated for 10.04, but it is for 10.10. Can I use that package instead?
[11:25] <mungustas> yeah hehe :)
[11:25] <pLr> mungustas: looks like &2>3 or something
[11:26] <nikolam> thune3, ok I see. I will do something like that. I am also not sure if updates to Ubuntu will do OK if GRUB is from other system and it is GRUB1. Ok, If understood everything, Ubuntu's Grub2 will stay on Its / and will live happily fo himself.
[11:27] <linux_hacks> How do I remove the un associated programs in the popup menu when we right click on file?
[11:27] <ikonia> linux_hacks: if they where installed by the package manager, removing the package with the package manager should remove them
[11:27] <mungustas> well i was thinking about 'nohup apt-get install pkg -y > /var/log/howitwent.log 2>&1 & || sleep'
[11:28] <icarus-c> linux_hacks, right click on the file -> Properties -> Open with.  remove whatever unnecessary
[11:28] <linux_hacks> ikonia: I need those programs but at the same time I need to remove the assoication of the file to those programs
[11:28] <linux_hacks> icarus-c: oh. .ok let me try
[11:29] <ikonia> ok, check out icarus-c comments
[11:29] <thune3> nikolam: that's fine. if you use the /vmlinux etc links for your grub1 line, it should not need to be changed for kernel upgrades. (set and forget)
[11:29] <thune3> nikolam: s/grub1 line/grub1 entry/
[11:30] <tassleho1f> what's the best way to get remote login/desktop on a 10.04 desktop install? seems xdmcp is not much supported anymore?
[11:30] <mungustas> but on the other hand thought maybe screen can help :)
[11:30] <pLr> mungustas: thats good, but put || echo "OMG its so bad" > /var/log/howit..
[11:30] <linux_hacks> icarus-c: cool.. now I dont see the options but when I click on the file its asking me to run in terminal rather than opening in gedit
[11:30] <nikolam> thune3, yes, that's it. Great :) taht way I could use Grub1 for other os'es. great :)
[11:30] <nikolam> thune3, thanks for support :)
[11:30] <icarus-c> linux_hacks, click open ?
[11:31] <linux_hacks> yes
[11:31] <icarus-c> linux_hacks, and did you select gedit as default?
[11:31] <mungustas> pLr have a version of how to encapsulate this stuff in screen ? :)
[11:31] <icarus-c> linux_hacks, anyway,  remove execute permission of the file then nautilus wouldn't ask to execute in terminal
[11:31] <linux_hacks> icarus-c: how to do that?
[11:31] <icarus-c> linux_hacks, Right click -> Properties -> Permission
[11:32] <linux_hacks> got it. .thank u
[11:32] <linux_hacks> icarus-c: when I remove the execute permission..
[11:32] <linux_hacks> but its still re enabling automatically
[11:33] <abhinav_singh> how to run cron file after every 8 hours
[11:33] <tobiasz> this nmap is some joke
[11:33] <linux_hacks> is it mean I can't change the permission on the file
[11:33] <tobiasz> I need a serious network mapping software
[11:33] <pozic> tobiasz: nmap is the most advanced, AFAIK.
[11:34] <pozic> tobiasz: but considering that you don't even know that 'a software' is wrong, you probably don't know anything.
[11:34] <mickster04> tobiasz: you mean your inability to use nmap is a joke
[11:34] <rob_p> tobiasz: That comment demonstrates your lack of understanding of the utility.
[11:34] <rob_p> tobiasz: nmap is probably the best available!
[11:35] <tobiasz> how come does it list the pc's that are turned off?
[11:35] <MDKDIO> abhinav_singh, I think you'll find the needed info here .. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto
[11:35] <tobiasz> I don't get it
[11:35] <Lollipop56> it lists all connections made
[11:35] <mickster04> tobiasz: if you do some proper searching around i'm sure you can work out how to get it not to show that. anyway maybe the NIC's stay turned on. like on my pc i can use WOL so it stays on
[11:35] <tobiasz> I want to get hostnames not only ip adreses
[11:35] <rob_p> tobiasz: have a look at the manpage.  You'll see, it can do a *whole lot* of things.
[11:36] <tobiasz> rob_p ok
[11:37] <tcollins> morning
[11:37] <chenlong> evening
[11:38] <Lollipop56> speaking of Nmap, what GUI do you guys use/recommend for it?
[11:38] <ewook> gui? :)
[11:38] <erUSUL> zenmap
[11:38] <chenlong> no
[11:38] <tobiasz> I've found NmapSI4 and it doesn't do a thing
[11:38] <tobiasz> it does nothing
[11:38] <tobiasz> retarded program
[11:39] <Lollipop56> Zenmap, kk ^^
[11:39] <tcollins> im trying to get the name of a device in /dev but it wont change when i unplug and replug it in, is there another way to get it?
[11:39] <mickster04> GUI? lol
[11:40] <mickster04> tcollins: /media ?
[11:40] <erUSUL> tcollins: « tail -f /var/log/messages » then plug the device
[11:40] <tcollins> its a usb wifi card
[11:40] <erUSUL> tcollins: a wifi card wont appear in /dev/
[11:41] <erUSUL> tcollins: it will appear in « iwconfig » output as wlan0 probably
[11:41] <tcollins> how can i eject it then?
[11:41] <erUSUL> tcollins: just unplug
[11:41] <tcollins> i need to do it in software
[11:41] <skramer_> hi, I have an old wacom artpad 2 (KT 0405R) which used to work with some tweaks in previous versions of Ubuntu, but it seems I can't get it to work under 10.04?
[11:42] <erUSUL> tcollins: maybe you could use rfkill to block it
[11:42] <mickster04> tcollins: why?
[11:42] <erUSUL> tcollins: « sudo rfkill list all » see if the wifi appears there.
[11:42] <st__> WTF?: /init: 241: cannot open /root/dev/console: Nosuch file then kernel panic not syncing: attempt to kill init! ?
[11:42] <ikonia> st__: please control your language
[11:42] <skramer_> anybody knows what to do to make it work again? it's a serial tablet connected to to  /dev/ttyS0 or COM1, respectively
[11:43] <tcollins> wifi does appear there
[11:43] <tcollins> so hard blocking it will do it?
[11:43] <erUSUL> skramer_: serial input devices need a command issued at boot for them to work ... let me digg it https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[11:44] <st__> what is /root/dev/console?
[11:44] <erUSUL> tcollins: hard is via some hardware element a button or something. you can soft block it with rfkill
[11:44] <ikonia> st__: it should be /dev/console - it's the device file for the console
[11:44] <erUSUL> st__: well something is wrong. should be /dev/console
[11:45] <erUSUL> tcollins: try --> sudo rfkill phy0 block
[11:46] <st__> bah it was some trashy kernel booting by default
[11:47] <skramer_> erUSUL: I see, but what <protocol option> do I have to set for a serial Wacom tablet?
[11:48] <erUSUL> skramer_: that i dunno; sorry.
[11:49] <erUSUL> skramer_: inputattach --help shows a list. you can try some of them
[11:50] <webvictim> has anyone managed to fix issues with an intel core graphics chipset (8086:0046) on lucid?
[11:50] <webvictim> i get a kernel panic every time i start X unless i manually specify a non-intel driver
[11:50] <ikonia> webvictim: how are you specifying a non-intel driver ?
[11:51] <webvictim> Driver "vesa"
[11:51] <ikonia> webvictim: which other drivers have you tried ?
[11:51] <webvictim> just that and "intel"
[11:51] <ikonia> webvictim: try i180
[11:51] <ikonia> oops
[11:51] <erUSUL> i810*
[11:51] <ikonia> try i810
[11:51] <webvictim> ok
[11:52] <skramer_> erUSUL: seems it is mostly about mice & I can't seem to find anything about tablets :-(
[11:52] <MDKDIO> abhinav_singh, did you find the info you needed on that site?
[11:52] <abhinav_singh> yes MDKDIO
[11:52] <MDKDIO> :)
[11:53] <webvictim> module i810 apparently doesn't exist
[11:53] <webvictim> guess i need to get hold of it from somewhere
[11:54] <st__> do i need /boot/vmliunz and /boot/initrd.img in Ubuintu?
[11:54] <thune3> st__: they are just links, and they ARE handy if you need to boot from grub> by hand
[11:55] <erUSUL> skramer_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wacom <<< maybe something there ?
[11:55] <Cojage> 10.10 next week sunday right?
[11:55] <st__> they are invalid, can they be restored automatiaccly? links in / are fine though
[11:55] <MDKDIO>  Messed up, sorry...   I am using 10.04 atm ... and after qbittorrent got updated to 2.4.2 I am having some issues rel to libtorrent.. Question, libtorrent is not updated for 10.04 (0.14.12), but it is for 10.10 (0.15.3). Can I use the 10.10 package instead?
[11:55] <thune3> st__: oh sorry i didn't see the /boot, i was thinking the / ones are handy
[11:56] <Rods_Tiger> How do I avoid ubuntu asking for my password to unlock a "keyring" each time it boots?
[11:57] <skramer_> erUSUL: I already read this, but let me double check to make sure I did not miss anything
[11:57] <thune3> st__: if the dates are old on those things i would just remove them (i would probably remove them anyway), i'm on 9.10 and i don't have such links in boot. i would say ok to remove.
[11:58] <erUSUL> skramer_: maybe adding « Option "Device" "/dev/ttyS0" » to the serial related section there would be enough?
[11:58] <webvictim> ikonia: X says it can't find module i810
[11:58] <skramer_> erUSUL: I havee no idea... :-(
[11:59] <erUSUL> skramer_: so « gksudo gedit /usr/lib/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-wacom.conf » and add  « Option "Device" "/dev/ttyS0" » just after «  MatchProduct "Serial Wacom Tablet" »
[12:06] <Voting> I'm about to use rsync to copy a bunch of files over my new nfs connection from one local machine to another TO COPY MANY VERY LARGE FILES. Is there any trick to using rsync efficently over NFS? About to do: rsync -azvvr /localDirectory /remoteDirectory
[12:06] <Voting> is three something smarter I shoudl do?
[12:06] <Voting> should I turn off compression for local use, for example?
[12:06] <erUSUL> i can not think of anything ... maybe in #rsync
[12:07] <Voting> ah, of course they have their own room!
[12:07] <erUSUL> Voting: use simply cp ?
[12:07] <dsterz> Voting: Check out -S, --sparse" - handle sparse files efficiently
[12:07] <pyghassen> i lose the wifi password for everytime I reboot!!!!!!!!
[12:07] <dsterz> Voting: very good for VM Disks or ISO Files
[12:08] <dewey_> he guys is there a way to start a program on a remote machine via ssh
[12:08] <Voting> erUSUL: thanks! I'm not sure I know what a sparse file is.
[12:08] <dewey_> (ssh -X works, but it opens on my own computers, needs to be on the remote)
[12:08] <skramer_> erUSUL: I  get a black screen & left unable to login :-(
[12:08] <dsterz> dewey: ssh root@$host "/path/to/command"
[12:09] <skramer_> erUSUL: so I'll have to remove that setting again
[12:09] <dewey_> disterz: (google-chrome:5753): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[12:09] <magnetron> dewey_: you are talking about a GRAPHICAL program, right?
[12:09] <dewey_> yes
[12:09] <dsterz> Voting: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sparse_file
[12:09] <dewey_> but it needs to open on the remote server, not my local machine
[12:09] <Linuxguy> hey i want to format everything and install ubuntu, and i plan to run windows software that ubuntu cant run, (like games) throguh a virtual box, so was wondering is this a good idea? also how much ram should i allocate for the virtual box? i have 4gb ddr3 ram so should i allocate 2gb?
[12:10] <areay_> Linuxguy, dual-boot windows and linux. you'll never get games to perform as well on ubuntu as they do on windows
[12:10] <tensorpudding> Linuxguy: This is not going to work.
[12:10] <icarus-c> Linuxguy, 3D performance is close to useless on virtual machine
[12:10] <areay_> lol
[12:10] <dewey_> I figured I could change the DISPLAY option on my local machine, but that doesn't seem to work
[12:10] <Linuxguy> oh ok thanks guys
[12:10] <icarus-c> Linuxguy, whether is there 3D capability is a problem
[12:10] <icarus-c> not to mention performance.
[12:11] <magnetron> dewey_: you need to set the DISPLAY in the remote environment.
[12:11] <trojan_spike> Linuxguy, games arent great in v-ox.. i leave a partition for windows,, then a differ partition for software and games..
[12:11] <icarus-c> areay_, CS and war3 are perfect in my experience though :P
[12:11] <icarus-c> areay_, i mean with Wine
[12:11] <dewey_> ah , to localhost:0 ?
[12:11] <magentar> Linuxguy: some games run more or less with wine, results may vary
[12:11] <areay_> icarus-c, i'll have to try that; i used to love CS
[12:11] <magnetron> dewey_: create a small script on the remote that first sets DISPLAY, then launches the app. then invoke it by starting that script via SSH
[12:12] <Linuxguy> alright guys, i will just do a partition, so should i split my HDD 50% windows /50% ubuntu?
[12:12] <tensorpudding> the finer points of partitioning are hard
[12:12] <pozic> Linuxguy: I did it 95% ubuntu.
[12:12] <icarus-c> dewey_, like    "DISPLAY=:1  firefox"   , assuming X on  :1 running and you have access to
[12:12] <pozic> Linuxguy: but you are not me.
[12:12] <magnetron> Linuxguy: ubuntu can read all windows file systems so you might take that into account
[12:12] <tensorpudding> do you have media files you want to share between them?
[12:13] <Linuxguy> i see thanks guys
[12:13] <nothingspecial> dewey_: From within the ssh session export DISPLAY=:0.0
[12:13] <icarus-c> Linuxguy, 15GB for Linux system is VERY sufficient.
[12:13] <tensorpudding> if so, you might consider making a small windows partition just big enough for games and software, a small ubuntu partition, and a media partition
[12:13] <Linuxguy> :)
[12:13] <tensorpudding> the media partition would need to be NTFS
[12:13] <dewey_> thanks all, "DISPLAY=:0 google-chrome" works perfect
[12:14] <Linuxguy> ok i am gonna go do it now! thanks everyone :)
[12:14] <dewey_> one last question, is there a quick way to kill al the google-chrome processes?
[12:14] <icarus-c> Linuxguy, typically it use less than 10GB.  mine  6GB including some games
[12:14] <Voting> dsterz: wow, I never knew that OSs did smart things about sparse files. Would video files likely be sparse? Can I do some sort of "ls -something" to see which ones are sparse? Thanks!!
[12:14] <tensorpudding> dewey_: killall chrome
[12:14] <icarus-c> hope Linuxguy manage to leave a partition to share data between Windows & ubuntu :P
[12:15] <tensorpudding> 10 GB is small for Ubuntu.
[12:15] <skramer_> I still  need some  help how to make a WACOM ArtPad 2 work under Lucid
[12:15] <dsterz> Voting: no, its useful for ISO Files or Virtual Machine Disk Images
[12:15] <magnetron> icarus-c: just a small tip: with virtualbox and other virtualbox it's actually possible to accelerate 3D graphics
[12:16] <icarus-c> magnetron, yea. but try to run crysis
[12:16] <icarus-c> not even CS i suppose
[12:16] <magnetron> icarus-c: um
[12:16] <AbhiJit> hi
[12:16] <Martin|2> tensorpudding, 10GB works fine for me :D
[12:16] <AbhiJit> in gwibber i how to go to last msg recieved @<myname> ??
[12:17] <magnetron> icarus-c: if you install guest addons it can be basically as fast as native
[12:17] <magnetron> icarus-c: counterstrike will run with great FPS
[12:17] <icarus-c> magnetron, well as least last time i try i couldn't run CS
[12:17] <magnetron> icarus-c: did you install guest addons?
[12:17] <icarus-c> sure
[12:17] <magnetron> including the DX plugin?
[12:17] <icarus-c> that was long time ago though
[12:18] <trojan_spike> CS?
[12:18] <magnetron> trojan_spike: counterstrike
[12:18] <icarus-c> not Computer Science nor Customer Service :P
[12:18] <Rods_Tiger> what causes the wifi to keep continually asking for the password and never actually get connected? The password is correct.
[12:18] <icarus-c> Rods_Tiger, poor signal
[12:18] <Rods_Tiger> no, it's not
[12:18] <magnetron> Rods_Tiger: for some reason the password is not correct
[12:19] <dewey_> this is brilliant haha, thanks all for hulp
[12:19] <Rods_Tiger> yes it is, listen
[12:19] <trojan_spike> the games wont play on v-box.. ive tried with the add-on,, direct-x etc.. no joy,, best off with cedega or play on linux
[12:19] <icarus-c> Rods_Tiger, or some dhcp issue like me
[12:19] <magnetron> Rods_Tiger: this is a WEP key, right?
[12:19] <Rods_Tiger> the password is correct, the wifi box is just here next to it
[12:19] <rocket16> Can Evolution can be configured in a way, that whenever I delete any mail in evolution, it gets deleted from my gmail inbox as well?
[12:19] <Salminen> games <> linux
[12:19] <Rods_Tiger> WPA
[12:19] <icarus-c> Rods_Tiger, i fail to get IP from dhcp from my wireless router unless i got 90% signal (i normal get 60%)
[12:19] <Rods_Tiger> it's something wrong in linux
[12:19] <icarus-c> Rods_Tiger, so i manually set IP
[12:19] <icarus-c> Rods_Tiger, i bet your router runs Linux too
[12:20] <Rods_Tiger> that's not the issue
[12:20] <icarus-c> or some BSD :P
[12:20] <_fre-d_> Rods_Tiger: had the same prob, for me it worked to reset the wifi-card
[12:20] <Rods_Tiger> then it's something wrong in ubuntu
[12:20] <icarus-c> Rods_Tiger, maybe take a look at /var/log/daemon.log
[12:20] <icarus-c> um do ubuntu go that?
[12:20] <icarus-c> got
[12:20] <Rods_Tiger> I wish I never suggested to dual boot this person's laptop
[12:20] <Rods_Tiger> they'll never understand all this nonsense
[12:21] <Martin|2> D: so why do they want it?
[12:21] <trojan_spike> dual-boot is easy to understand?
[12:21]  * icarus-c 's bad router is from D-Link
[12:21] <Rods_Tiger> no, it confuses them - the grub loading screen frightens them
[12:22] <trojan_spike> give them burg then?
[12:22] <icarus-c> put a background image for grub
[12:22] <tensorpudding> are they also frightned by BIOS POST screens?
[12:22] <Martin|2> wha... it's not that confusing... Ubuntu 10.04.... WINDOWS < take a pic
[12:22] <Rods_Tiger> they don't remember which Windows Recovery Environment (loader) is the correct one
[12:22] <icarus-c> colorize the text :P
[12:22] <Salminen> make the grub menu nice and tidy, just put like "WINDOWS STARTS HERE" "LINUX STARTS HERE" as the only options :)
[12:22] <Rods_Tiger> and it went into memory test by default anyway
[12:22] <Salminen> you can do that right?
[12:22] <Random832> Rods_Tiger: well that's just a bad setup - why are there two windows recovery environment items?
[12:22] <Rods_Tiger> the endless technical ubuntu kernel options frighten them
[12:22] <tensorpudding> Salminen: GRUB 2 makes that a bit messy
[12:22] <trojan_spike> change the default then,, > start up options>
[12:23] <Rods_Tiger> one of them is their windows
[12:23] <AbhiJit> is there any non-addon browser independent bookmark.username,pasword keeping system? not adon but a softwrae
[12:23] <Salminen> tensorpudding, oh?
[12:23]  * icarus-c votes for bad setup
[12:23] <icarus-c> i mean blame
[12:23] <Rods_Tiger> I changed the default, but after an update, it started booting into memory test, and they now consider it a broken machine
[12:23] <tensorpudding> every time you install a kernel, that'll probably break when it calls grub-update
[12:23] <Salminen> who are these people(sry just curious)
[12:23] <icarus-c> AbhiJit, rsycn the web browser profile folder maybe?...
[12:24] <Rods_Tiger> I'm trying to persuade them to use linux, but they're winning so far!
[12:24] <trojan_spike> u can delete the men-test option
[12:24] <Salminen> tensorpudding, ah right didnt think about that
[12:24] <Rods_Tiger> they can't do that
[12:24] <industrial> I am no longer using GNOME with ubuntu and neither GDM, which is nice and how I want it. But now I have no sound. Alsamixer will not start for my user and now I have no idea how to manage the sound.
[12:24] <Lollipop56> anyone who has some experience with OpenDNS? Pm me
[12:24] <industrial> cannot open mixer: No such file or directory
[12:24] <AbhiJit> icarus-c, i expect it to do restoring or importing exporing automaticallly
[12:24] <DjAngo23> Hello again. I made a mount of my NFS share on my local computer. But when i create a file localy and fire "ls -alh" on my server, the user of the files is 1000 and the group is 1000. Any idea how to solve this ?
[12:24] <Martin|2> Rods_Tiger, if you want them to ubuntu, just make the default boot into ubuntu, and make the grub timeout 1 second xD
[12:25] <Random832> tensorpudding: isn't there a file you can edit to change what grub-update puts in?
[12:25] <jrib> !pm | Lollipop56
[12:25] <icarus-c> Rods_Tiger, you could make grub "good looking" and tidy somehow and you didn't.  you can make the boot entries title in grub easy to understand, and you didn't
[12:25] <tensorpudding> DjAngo23: Did you hear when myself and someone else on here were talking about UID's and NFS earlier?
[12:25] <Random832> /etc/grub.default or some such
[12:25] <Rods_Tiger> no, it is a default install
[12:25] <DjAngo23> tensorpudding, well i was actualy me ;)
[12:25] <Rods_Tiger> I expect it to be tidy and good looking, and somehow it isn't
[12:25] <tensorpudding> Random832: It's possible, I wouldn't know at all. I profess blissful ignorance with GRUB 2's workings
[12:25] <Random832> so UN-default it
[12:26] <Rods_Tiger> I expect the boot entries to be easy to understand, and it isn't
[12:26] <bazhang> Rods_Tiger, so configure it.
[12:26] <Rods_Tiger> no, they can't
[12:26] <Rods_Tiger> they are not experts
[12:26] <DjAngo23> tensorpudding, it' s just now that i found there wasn' t any other possibility than use NFS
[12:26] <Rods_Tiger> they are just normal users
[12:26] <bazhang> Rods_Tiger, would you like support doing so
[12:26] <linux_hacks> I have a bluetooth adaptor in my Dell Inspiron lappy
[12:26] <Rods_Tiger> no
[12:26] <Random832> i don't know how memtest86 could possibly have become the default entry though; that sounds like a bug
[12:26] <linux_hacks> when I do lsusb it's displaying me the
[12:26] <bazhang> Rods_Tiger, then not much point in complaining about it
[12:26] <jrib> Rods_Tiger: what's your actual question?
[12:26] <glebihan> Salminen: you can edit the files in /etc/grub.d to modify the way grub-update generates the grub.cfg file, but it's at your own risk...
[12:26] <Random832> Rods_Tiger: so basiclly you want a public venue to gripe about it?
[12:26] <Rods_Tiger> they're probably going to reinstall their stupid windows OS instead to 'fix' the broken situation
[12:26] <tensorpudding> DjAngo23: UIDs are mapped from machine to machine, so you need users with the same UID on the client machine
[12:26] <thanasisk> hi all. what is the state of support for ATI Radeon cards
[12:26] <Rods_Tiger> listen you idiots, grub is wrong for normal people
[12:27] <bazhang> Rods_Tiger, please ask a support question
[12:27] <Rods_Tiger> why?
[12:27] <jrib> Rods_Tiger: this channel is for support not complaining
[12:27] <thanasisk> so far I have been using  nvidia products, which had excellent support
[12:27] <Rods_Tiger> oh fuck off
[12:27] <Random832> Rods_Tiger: i've never had a problem. if there's a bug in it then report the bug
[12:27] <icarus-c> Rods_Tiger, right. tell them to use NTLDR instead of grub
[12:27] <linux_hacks> I have a bluetooth adaptor in my Dell Inspiron lappy, when I do lsusb it's displaying me the adaptor, but I couldn't use it to pair up the devices?
[12:27] <Random832> and whatever caused memtest to be the default is a bug
[12:27] <tensorpudding> !language | Rods_Tiger
[12:27] <Martin|2> Rods_Tiger, Grub is right for normal people. its perfectly readable and easy to understand. <OS><Version> then Windows at the bottom, where it should be xD
[12:27] <bazhang> Martin|2, he's gone
[12:27] <thanasisk> but however I am getting a deal on ATI and I want to make sure that it will play nice with ubuntu
[12:28] <Martin|2> lol bazhang xD I never noticed, nvm!
[12:28] <icarus-c> thanasisk, is it a new model?
[12:28] <icarus-c> new hardware generally no good for Linux
[12:28] <Random832> Martin|2: except he somehow ended up with memtest86 at the start, and isn't bothering to give enough information for people to figure out why
[12:28] <chenlong> thanasisk:It's good.
[12:28] <thanasisk> its a 5830
[12:29] <Martin|2> Random832, He originally had Windows as the default boot. when ubuntu was updated, the entries moved down 2. which would start memtest. that happened to me. it was pretty simple to fix too!
[12:29] <thanasisk> full disclosure: in the not-so-distant past, I was not happy with ATI's linux support
[12:29] <Random832> why would the entries "moving down 2" cause memtest to start?
[12:29] <areay_> ok i have a question of my own now... i borrowed a client machine from work, and i'm using it at home... i've never had an ubuntu machine that is this low-spec before, so i'm not sure if this is normal behavior; but every time the machine runs out of memory, EVERYTHING locks up -- i can't even use the numlock key
[12:30] <linux_hacks> I have a bluetooth adaptor in my Dell Inspiron lappy, when I do lsusb it's displaying me the adaptor, but I couldn't use it to pair up the devices?
[12:30] <icarus-c> thanasisk, apparently there is no 3D support for 5830  by xorg  radeon driver yet.
[12:30] <Random832> Martin|2: that sounds fundamentally broken
[12:31] <Random832> and it's only a simple fix if you know where to look
[12:31] <Martin|2> Random832, he has used Startup-manager i'll bet
[12:31] <Martin|2> which is pretty easy to use
[12:32] <Random832> if there's no way to make a windows default _stick_, then there should be no gui to offer the option to make it the default.
[12:32] <icarus-c> thanasisk, and i have no idea how fglrx (ATI's close source driver for linux) works thesedays. but i always have a impression that fglrx sucks
[12:32] <Random832> and it's broken anyway if there's no way to make it stick
[12:32] <happydude> i have a single usb stick and I want to boot many computers with it. How can I remove it after booting?
[12:32] <thanasisk> icarus-c, i see your point
[12:32] <thanasisk> guess I'll speak with my wallet and buy nvidia again
[12:33] <happydude> In other words I want an option to move the system to ramdisk and so I can remove the system disk.
[12:33] <icarus-c> ATI card is very neat thesedays though :(
[12:33] <Random832> the gui writing checks the underlying system can't cash is a serious problem
[12:33] <Martin|2> Yeah, Random832, I think it should look for a keyword. rather than a certain number of lines down from the top.
[12:34] <Martin|2> ugh I know what I mean.
[12:34] <Random832> the other problem is it's a bug no-one "owns"
[12:35] <Gangrel> !splash
[12:35] <Random832> it's not startup-manager's fault because startup-manager exists in a world where grub configurations are static
[12:35] <thanasisk> icarus-c, back in the day, I even mailed matrox that I returned one of their cards due to lack of linux support (no reply ofcourse :))
[12:35] <Random832> it's not an update-grub problem because update-grub exists in a world where if you want a different default you move it to the top
[12:35] <Martin|2> Random832, does anyone own bugs in linux? xD and yeah, startup-manager is good though.
[12:36] <Random832> it's not a grub problem because grub just does what the config tells it to
[12:36] <happydude> is there a tool/app/script to move migrate system root to ram in order to umount the original root partition?
[12:36] <Martin|2> Yar, I get that. Random832 :D
[12:36] <Random832> it's not clear which [of grub or update-grub] you'd add this "keyword" fnctionality to
[12:37] <Salminen> how do i add a user on my openssh server?
[12:38] <jrib> Salminen: System -> Administration -> Users and Groups or use the « adduser » command
[12:38] <icarus-c> happydude, i don't think you could change rootfs to somewhere else after kernel booted.  but you could migrate /usr /opt (where the programs relies in) to ram
[12:38] <Ascavasaion> I have a wired ADSL router, and a small network.  Is there a way that I can bridge the wired and wireless NICs in my laptop and use it as a router to the wired router?
[12:39] <icarus-c> happydude, but there is problem in syncing  files in ram & disk
[12:39] <happydude> icarus-c, you mabe right.
[12:40] <icarus-c> happydude, so you may want to make it read-only and perform system update every few weeks
[12:40] <happydude> icarus-c, I do not want sync. After the root disk is physically removed, no modifications will be permanent over reboot.
[12:40] <happydude> icarus-c, how to make it read only?
[12:40] <icarus-c> happydude, squashfs maybe useful too
[12:41] <happydude> I have only one partition on the usb. can I make the device read only in one swoop?
[12:41] <Lollipop56> !ot
[12:41] <happydude> ... on my ubuntu usb stick? :-)
[12:41] <happydude> s/ubuntu/UBUNTU
[12:43] <icarus-c> happydude, it could be difficult and may not work that well actually (since it takes time to copy files to ram too!)
[12:44] <icarus-c> and Linux cache files that it has accessed anyway
[12:44] <st__> what is the lightest gui web browser availab;e in ubuntu, working of course
[12:44] <happydude> i'll try
[12:44] <icarus-c> st__, midori ?
[12:44] <jrib> st__: links2 -g   probably
[12:45] <st__> midori has a bloated kernel
[12:45] <bazhang> !ot > st__
[12:45] <tensorpudding> st__: uzbl, probably.
[12:46] <st__> bazhang, eh?
[12:46] <bazhang> st__, polling?
[12:46] <tensorpudding> if by lightest you refer to the GUI and resource usage, it does use Webkit which is not really small
[12:46] <bazhang> st__, try bestbot in #ubuntu-bots
[12:46] <LjL> bazhang: err... he's not polling
[12:47] <LjL> he asked about the lightest. that's objectively answerable.
[12:47] <LjL> for some criterion of lightness at least
[12:47] <bazhang> lightest yet bloated
[12:47] <LjL> st__: have you tried dillo?
[12:47] <Seeker`> The one with the fewest 1 bits in the binary. 1's weigh more on the HDD than 0;s.
[12:47] <st__> not yet
[12:47] <bazhang> Seeker`, :)
[12:47] <mc68cm72> hello
[12:48] <mc68cm72> I need help
[12:48] <bazhang> mc68cm72, ask a question
[12:48] <Seeker`> mc68cm72: if you tell us what you need help with, someone might be able to
[12:48] <Seeker`> sadly, we aren't psychic.
[12:48] <mc68cm72> I have to import in mysql a file more than 50mb
[12:48] <mc68cm72> I change mx file size to 50mb
[12:49] <LjL> mc68cm72: #mysql might be a better venue for that sort of issue
[12:49] <Emanon> !congratulations
[12:49] <mc68cm72> upload_max_filesize, memory_limit and post_max_size to 50mb but I still can't import the db
[12:49] <soby> laptop realtek driver fails everytime during boot up .... this is the kernel log .... http://paste.ubuntu.com/499278/ ...any idea how to fix it??
[12:49] <mc68cm72> ok, thanks, I'll try there
[12:50] <Diablos> http://vivaolinux.com.br/screenshots/viewshot.php?codigo=18461&shot=Winbuntu.png  :)
[12:50] <bazhang> Diablos, not here
[12:50] <Diablos> ok
[12:50] <mc68cm72> nice : ERROR > 404: Cannot send to channel: #mysql
[12:50] <bazhang> #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:50] <mc68cm72> I can't write there..
[12:50] <bazhang> mc68cm72, then register
[12:50] <LjL> mc68cm72: uh let me try to find out why
[12:50] <mc68cm72> ok
[12:51] <LjL> mc68cm72: oh right, what bazhang said. i forget that +R is no more.
[12:52] <Bullterd> Evening All.
[12:52] <Emanon> !hello | Bullterd
[12:52] <Bullterd> I have a tar backup file - how do I extract one specific folder from within?
[12:52] <mc68cm72> +Ccnt
[12:52] <nickio_> just installed ubuntu8 am on the initial login screen with a resolution so small i can only see the top left corner. Is it possible to open a terminal from the login page and adjust the screen resolution? Or any other suggestions?
[12:52] <Emanon> nickio_: hit enter type password hit enter again
[12:52] <iceroot> nickio_: ctrl + alt + f1
[12:52] <Emanon> or do that
[12:52] <Ascavasaion> I have a wired ADSL router, and a small network.  Is there a way that I can bridge the wired and wireless NICs in my laptop and use it as a router to the wired router?
[12:53] <ivanatwork> hi
[12:53] <Emanon> !hi | ivanatwork
[12:53] <Seeker`> Emanon: please stop that.
[12:53] <qoqo_66> i use chekgmail (ubuntu 10.04). it wants a command to execute on new e-mail. but it is empty now. can some please give me a command to bip once time ?
[12:53] <Emanon> what?
[12:53] <Seeker`> Emanon: doing !hi for everyone that comes in
[12:53] <Emanon> they said hi
[12:53] <nickio_> perfect, thanks iceroot and Emanon
[12:54] <Emanon> np nickio_
[12:54] <ivanatwork> lol ;)
[12:54] <Seeker`> Emanon: I know. Doesn't mean you need to do the factoid back each time.
[12:54] <Emanon> would it make you feel better if i carroted it to them rather than piping?
[12:54] <LjL> Emanon: why don't you just reply to the greeting? bot isn't needed for *everything*
[12:54] <ikonia> Emanon: just give it a rest
[12:55] <LjL> (though i do wonder why the factoid is there in the first place)
[12:55] <tassleho1f> anyone have xdmcp working in lucid?
[12:56] <karthee>  Hi .. Has anyone come across the problem, In ldap           Objectclass : glue,  Objectclass : top got set somehow ..
[12:56] <qoqo_66> i use chekgmail (ubuntu 10.04). it wants a command to execute on new e-mail. but it is empty now. can some please give me a command to bip once time ?
[12:57] <daOwner> hi
[12:57] <Emanon> i know this doesnt help but have you tried using gmail through evolution qoqo_66?
[12:57] <ivanatwork> samba ask me for user / password. How can I setup samba to leave that folder "public" ?
[12:57] <Emanon> hello daOwner
[12:57]  * Emanon looks pointedly at Seeker`
[12:57] <qoqo_66> Emanon:  i dont use evolution ro something else... thye everytime has probelms when i send extra files with mail...
[12:58] <qoqo_66> Emanon: but thank you!
[12:58] <Emanon> ahh fair enough then
[12:58] <ivanatwork> !samba
[12:59] <daOwner> hmm
[12:59] <daOwner> how are you ubuntu people?
[12:59] <ivanatwork> I need to set up samba to have a "public" folder without user/password request
[12:59] <icarus-c> Bullterd, tar -xvf blah.tar   path/to/folder/file
[12:59] <bazhang> daOwner, chat in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[13:00] <icarus-c> Bullterd, tar -lxvf blah.tar  to list
[13:00] <trond-> ivanatwork, Let me see if I can find a link that I use when it comes to Samba issues (if no one else comes along and help you out)
[13:01] <ivanatwork> trond-: thank you. I only need to make a folder public but I don't know exactly what to do
[13:01] <ivanatwork> I'm using Ubuntu 10.04
[13:02] <ivanatwork> well ... 10.10 beta but it's the same thing lol
[13:02] <bazhang> ivanatwork, no its not
[13:02] <bazhang> ivanatwork, #ubuntu+1 for that
[13:02] <trond-> ivanatwork, I believe you can use this: http://hints.macworld.com/article.php?story=20051006095436254
[13:02] <chenlong> yes
[13:03] <trond-> bazhang, don't think Samba has changed that much - haven't really for the last few years I've been dealing with Samba.
[13:03] <bazhang> trond-, thats the support for maverick nonetheless, thanks
[13:03] <chenlong> Is mysql worth study--after buy by orcle?
[13:04] <Kartagis> is it easy to create a samba domain?
[13:04] <trond-> bazhang, true ;)
[13:04] <fabjan> Seems my usb-creator issue is a bug so I guess I won't be able to solve it today.. https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/file-roller/+bug/64383
[13:04] <soby> laptop realtek driver fails everytime during boot up .... this is the kernel log .... http://paste.ubuntu.com/499278/ ...any idea how to fix it??
[13:04] <trond-> chenlong, yes.
[13:04] <bazhang> fabjan, what about trying unetbootin
[13:04] <ivanatwork> trond- and bazhang, thanks! I'm leaving to the right channel.
[13:04] <AbhiJit> chenlong, try postgres
[13:05] <fidelix> Anyone had problems when updating to 2.6.32-25 ?
[13:05] <chenlong> Study mysql in windows  is good?
[13:05] <icarus-c> chenlong, offtopic
[13:05] <phaedra> chenlong, you can also have a look at MariaDB
[13:05] <rusivi> fidelix no, what have you noticed?
[13:06] <alkamid> what packages do I need for full kanji support?
[13:06] <fidelix> rusivi, my Xserver works no nore.
[13:06] <tensorpudding> alkamid: japanese fonts
[13:06] <fidelix> rusivi, reverting to 32-24 it worked fine again.
[13:06] <trond-> chenlong, check your msg window.
[13:07] <alkamid> tensorpudding, I have language-support-fonts-ja
[13:07] <tensorpudding> alkamid: I'm pretty sure everything supports UTF-8 now by default
[13:07] <trond-> fidelix, what kind of issues did _you_ have on 32-25? Flickering window?
[13:07] <fidelix> trond-, X does not open.
[13:07] <rusivi> fidelix is there a functionality from kernel 2.6.32.25 you need?
[13:07] <icarus-c> 2.6.32-25 is NOT 2.6.32.25
[13:08] <chenlong> what about MS sqlserver?
[13:08] <rusivi> icarus-c yes mistyped
[13:08] <rusivi> icarus-c (wish this was skype...)
[13:08] <icarus-c> as a matter of fact, 2.6.32.25 doesn't even exist
[13:08] <fidelix> rusivi, i've read some things about wireless upgrades. In the past few months i had some problems with wireless...
[13:08] <tensorpudding> alkamid: language-pack-ja would include all the Japanese language stuff for Ubuntu, if that is what you want
[13:08] <babtux> hi
[13:08] <tensorpudding> err, for the documentation and the like
[13:09] <Ranjan> hello Every body .. today i noticed an very strange problem  with rhythmbox it is not working properly wile cross feeding is active in ubuntu 10.04 does any body have noticed this issue ... or any way to fix it ... any help would be of great help ..  Thanks in advance
[13:09] <alkamid> tensorpudding, I just need to read japanese
[13:09] <azlon> how can i check the status of resize2fs?
[13:09] <rusivi> fidelix: what have you read about wireless upgrades? What type of wireless problems have you had?
[13:09] <tensorpudding> alkamid: All you need for that is Japanese fonts and support for UTF-8
[13:10] <Ranjan> alkamid : please gave an try on shared talk
[13:10] <fidelix> rusivi, my wireless disconnects sometimes without reason. And the network manager cant read my wired connection.
[13:10] <fidelix> Anyway, it seems the logical way to upgrade headers
[13:10] <babtux> i use ubuntu 10.4 and update it now when updates are installed this question ask: coud not find /boot/grub/menu.lst file would you like /boot/grub/menu.lst gene rated for you? (y/n) now what answer to this question?
[13:11] <alkamid> tensorpudding, have a look here please: http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/8086/72164641.png
[13:11] <chenlong> Can ubuntu 10.10 works well NOW?
[13:11] <tensorpudding> alkamid: Is that in a web browser?
[13:11] <alkamid> tensorpudding, oops, I've just checked... it's chrome's fault
[13:11] <tensorpudding> !ubuntu+1 | chenlong
[13:12] <rusivi> fidelix regarding wifi disco, what wifi type A/B/G/N?
[13:12] <tensorpudding> alkamid: ah, i use chrome and i've not had any problems with japanese fonts in webpages
[13:12] <alkamid> tensorpudding, then try this: http://pl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:AlkamidBot/zch/log
[13:13] <alkamid> (bottom lines)
[13:13] <fidelix> rusivi, forget it... i'll be staying in 32-24 until 32-25 is usable
[13:13] <rusivi> fidelix: k np
[13:14] <Ranjan> chenlong :: some issue with digital pen pad as wizard pen driver is not working  till now ....
[13:14] <fidelix> rusivi, the sad thing is that 32-25 is already in the repository and ubuntu asks you to upgrade. That sucks.
[13:15] <alkamid> tensorpudding, can you see those characters?
[13:15] <haghdoost> hello
[13:15] <rusivi> fidelix: quick comment of wifi, if your using wifi N, many of the EQ out in marketplace is draft status, which is "good luck", no big deal.
[13:15] <rusivi> :)
[13:15] <chenlong> Which chanel to talk firefox?
[13:15] <haghdoost> I dont know
[13:16] <heart777> sex
[13:16] <heart777> sex
[13:16] <heart777> sex
[13:16] <FloodBot1> heart777: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:16] <industrial> I'm removing some packages I don't use on my PC, amongst them gedit. I can't remove it because that will remove 'ubuntu-desktop'.
[13:16] <glebihan> chenlong: #firefox
[13:16] <tensorpudding> alkamid: yes
[13:17] <chenlong> glebinhan:thank you
[13:18] <industrial> I removed the package gimp but synaptic left some other packages gimp-*, why does it do this? I know no other packages depend on them because I just removed them aswell, but why won't sub-packages of packages get uninstaled if they are no longer needed?
[13:19] <alkamid> tensorpudding, what's your chrome version? mine's 6.0.472.63 beta
[13:19] <BluesKaj> HIyas all
[13:19] <babtux> i use ubuntu 10.4 and update it now when updates are installed this question ask: coud not find /boot/grub/menu.lst file would you like /boot/grub/menu.lst generated for you? (y/n) now what answer to this question?
[13:19] <industrial> babtux: yes or no :D
[13:19] <tensorpudding> alkamid: 6.0.472.62 here
[13:19] <nuestra> babtux: yes
[13:20] <KabukiOrigin> babtux, say yes - it will rebuild from the available kernel files.
[13:20] <alkamid> tensorpudding, well, it seems it's not chrome's fault. any ideas?
[13:20] <babtux> nuestra: my dram not damage?
[13:20] <nuestra> babtux: no, no damage will be done
[13:21] <babtux> nuestra: excuseme mu grub not damage?
[13:21] <nuestra> babtux: correct, no harm.
[13:23] <BluesKaj> babtux, sudo update-grub , there is no /boot/grub/menu.lst in grub2 , which is used on 10.04
[13:23] <BluesKaj> !grub2 | babtux
[13:24] <joth_> Can someone please help me with getting my wireless to work? It recognises the usb adaptor is there, but nothing comes up when scanning.
[13:26] <iceman_3233> joth open a terminal and type /etc/init.d/wicd start
[13:27] <joth_> I'll try that, thanks!
[13:28] <joth_> I got "no such file or directory"
[13:29] <iceman_3233> okay open up terminal and type modprobe lsusb and type results
[13:30] <joth_> "FATAL: Module lsusb not found."
[13:30] <joth_> I guess that's not good.
[13:30] <iceman_3233> try modinfo lsusb
[13:30] <iceman_3233> in terminal
[13:30] <bazhang> joth_, you dont modprobe lsusb
[13:30] <joth_> "could not find module lsusb"
[13:30] <st__> is it safe to remove GTK engines?
[13:31] <Fas> I need to share a file via internet just as we do in a local network.
[13:31] <Fas> Can anyoen help
[13:31] <joth_> Ah, just lsusb gives a list of devices - the USB adaptor comes up as "Bus 001 Device 002: ID 177f:0153" and nothing after thart
[13:31] <psycho_oreos> you need to enable port forwarding on the router for beginners
[13:31] <Emanon> Fas: dropbox or ubuntuone
[13:32] <st__> Fas, or set up webdav if you run own server
[13:32] <Emanon> yea what he said
[13:32] <yudi1>  i am running xp as guest in ubuntu, do I need to install antivirus and firewall to secure it?
[13:32] <Emanon> thats not a bad idea
[13:32] <st__> yudi1, xp professional?
[13:33] <Emanon> yudi1: well you could set up a firewall on ubuntu and that would cover xp too
[13:33] <Emanon> and as for antiviral you can scan that from ubuntu like just another directory with klam or something
[13:33] <ppearse> Anyone suggest how I can get pinged when the source of a particular package is update?
[13:33] <psycho_oreos> yudi1, also it depends on how xp is connected to internet, if its not going through bridging, chances are you can get ubuntu to filter it all through
[13:33] <BluesKaj> joth_, have you tried configuring netmanager?
[13:33] <st__> yudi1, if it's professional then skip antivirus and enable SRP instead
[13:34] <ppearse>  //d/
[13:34] <iceman_3233> okay try this open terminal and type ifconfig -a what does it say
[13:34] <st__> yudi1, also you may leave ddefault firewall enabled
[13:34] <joth_> BluesKaj: I tried playing around with it and entering the network details manually, and still nothing.
[13:35] <joth_> After ifconfig -a, I see wlan0 and wlan0:avahi
[13:35] <psycho_oreos> joth_, which version of ubuntu is this?
[13:35] <st__> yudi1, and obviously use limited account
[13:35] <yudi1> st__: yes xp professional, What is SRP?
[13:35] <joth_> 10.04
[13:35] <iceman_3233> okay try dhclient wlan0
[13:35] <st__> yudi1, software restriction policy
[13:35] <psycho_oreos> joth_, hmm interesting, can you pastebin (not paste) your dmesg output?
[13:36] <joth_> Sure, let me just sort out a wired connection to the computer.
[13:36] <psycho_oreos> joth_, or you could do `sneakernet' :)
[13:36] <joth_> dhclient wlan0 tries to DHCPDISCOVER for a while then says no DHCPOFFERS received
[13:37] <yudi1> st__: i use clam av and ufw, and I am no sure how XP connects to internet - using virutalbox though
[13:37] <st__> yudi1, which is IP in XP machine?
[13:37] <BluesKaj> joth_, what wifi adapter ?
[13:37] <iceman_3233> try dmesg and pastebin the output like psycho_oreos commented
[13:38] <psycho_oreos> yudi1, right click on the networking lookalike icon on the bottom right of the virtualbox screen that's running xp, or just hover your mouse on there and see how is it connected
[13:38] <Qwert> I use virtualbox to try other disrto, how can I create a shortcut to access the distro directly?
[13:39] <psycho_oreos> BluesKaj, it appears to be rt2800 variant chipset
[13:39] <st__> Qwert, see documentation
[13:39] <psycho_oreos> Qwert, you might want to try #vbox
[13:39] <BluesKaj> loth . Lucid is not usb wifi friendly . I can direct you to a tutorial that might work ,but didn't work for my belkin usb wifi adapter. http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-install-rt2870-chipset-based-usb-wireless-adapter.html
[13:40] <BluesKaj> err joth_ , read above
[13:40] <yudi1> st__: ip for xp is 10.x.x.x
[13:40] <st__> Qwert, virtualbox --startvm <GUID here>
[13:40] <joth_> OK,htt
[13:41] <st__> yudi1, then you need no firewall
[13:41] <joth_> OK, http://pastebin.com/GUpw25xE looks relevant
[13:41] <yudi1> st__: ok
[13:41] <st__> yudi1, if you need no FTP connection, you may stop firewall service
[13:41] <joth_> It's a Sweex Wireless 150N adapter
[13:41] <joth_> Chipset RT3070, I think?
[13:41] <johnny_> did anynone now wich is the best way to start web design?
[13:42] <Qwert> st__: I'm sorry but I didn't get that. Where I have to type that? How can I get GUID of a distro in VirtualBox?
[13:42] <johnny_> does anynone now wich is the best way to start web design?
[13:42] <juk> when i visited get.adobe.com/flash in chromium it says your google chrome browser already has a builtin flash plugin, funny, it's not true
[13:42] <bazhang> !html > johnny_
[13:42] <psycho_oreos> joth_, seems like you're missing the binary firmware, those maybe obtainable from ralink website
[13:42] <johnny_> bazhang, from bluefish?
[13:43] <CamJ256> Hey, if anyone knows anything about pipes in C++ I've got a quick question. I want to direct an output of one process to the input of another process. I am using dup2 and execl to redirect the output of grep through my pipe to the input of sort. I have got the output to redirect OK. I just can't get sort to take the input. Can you use dup2() to do that?
[13:43] <joth_> Should I try installing the RT2870 as per that link, or should I look for a RT3070? Might the RT2870 work? Or, in fact, should I try and get the rt2800.bin?
[13:43] <bazhang> johnny_, you mean something like dreamweaver?
[13:43] <Qwert> st__: Ah-ok. But that can be created a shortcut?
[13:43] <juk> CamJ256: join #programming
[13:43] <CamJ256> i meant pipes in C. i'm fucking tired
[13:43] <st__> Qwert, yes, make a desktop file
[13:43] <CamJ256> thanks juk. I don't use irc much.
[13:43] <CamJ256> i am super stuck
[13:43] <bazhang> CamJ256, language please
[13:44] <yudi1> st__: i only use XP for just couple of programs, one of them is a tax program, thats why I need XP to be very secure.
[13:44] <Qwert> st__: Then?
[13:44] <psycho_oreos> joth_, I would personally get the firmware, the use of sta driver I would put it as a last option as the serialmonkey's driver (which is the one incorporated into the linux kernel) has much more functionality
[13:44] <CamJ256> Sorry.
[13:44] <johnny_> bazhang, i mean the best way to start from a programm or write code to txt file?
[13:44] <st__> yudi1, it will be very secure if you'll install updates and configure software restrictions
[13:44] <juk> CamJ256: type /join #programming
[13:44] <CamJ256> How come I always get forwarded from #c to ##C or #programming to ##programming
[13:45] <joth_> Sorry, which is the firmware? Is that the rt2800.bin?
[13:45] <st__> Qwert, type VBoxManage list vms ... guid is the text in {...}
[13:45] <psycho_oreos> CamJ256, its freenode's channel policy.. ## means about channel, it also means the channel is not a direct affiliate to the name of the product/device/etc for the official support channel
[13:45] <Qwert> st__:Alright
[13:45] <psycho_oreos> joth_, yes, it appears that you're missing it
[13:46] <lousygarua> johnny_: i use text files, but you may use programs like http://www.aptana.com/ or bluefish or whatever you find comfortable
[13:46] <lousygarua> johnny_: for editing the text (html/css) files i use VIM
[13:46] <st__> Qwert, if you're pathetic gnome user, right click desktop and select Create launcher, then type "virtualbox --startvm {......}" in COmmand Line field
[13:46] <joth_> Do you know where I can get it from? The ralink website doesn't seem to have firmware for rt2800
[13:46] <Qwert> st__, KDE
[13:47] <st__> Qwert, it's something similar then
[13:47] <yudi1> st__: where do I find the SRP options in XP
[13:48] <Qwert> st__: Thanks
[13:48] <johnny_> lousygarua, can you give a tutorial for noobs ???
[13:48] <joth_> Also, sorry, where do I put the .bin file once I'vefound it?
[13:48] <st__> yudi1, Control Pane, Administration, Local Security Policies
[13:48] <psycho_oreos> joth_, should normally be in /lib/firmware or /lib/firmware-`uname -r`
[13:50] <johnny_> lousygarua, can you give a tutorial for noobs ???
[13:50] <johnny_> bazhang, , can you give a tutorial for noobs ???
[13:50] <st__> joth_, should be in directory where it was not found when device was detected
[13:50] <lousygarua> johnny_ just a minute
[13:50] <psycho_oreos> joth_, try this: http://www.ralinktech.com/license_us.php?n=2&p=1&t=U0wyRnpjMlYwY3k4eU1ERXdMekF6THpNeEwyUnZkMjVzYjJGa01UWXpPRGs1T0Rnek5pNTZhWEE5UFQxU1ZESTROekJmUm1seWJYZGhjbVZmVmpJeUM%3D
[13:50] <johnny_> lousygarua, ok i am waiting
[13:50] <Mas_Sergio> hi :)
[13:51] <Mas_Sergio> how's everyone?
[13:51] <Mas_Sergio> =)
[13:51] <lousygarua> johnny_: this is a great website http://w3schools.com/
[13:51] <st__> lousy, are you mad advertising vim?
[13:51] <lousygarua> st__ why mad? any emacs users around? :)
[13:51] <Mas_Sergio> what's an emac? lol
[13:51] <tensorpudding> lousygarua: #emacs
[13:52] <st__> johnny_, don;t listen to loons and try geany instead
[13:52] <psycho_oreos> Mas_Sergio, text editor (in CLI)
[13:52] <braden_> All my windows are opening from the top task bar, not seperate windows....what do i do?!
[13:52] <johnny_> st__, what do you mean?
[13:52] <joth_> Aha! That might be working...I finally detect a network, but the ESSID is garbled so I don't know if it's my home one (or even one that actually exists)
[13:52] <psycho_oreos> actually emacs does lots of things apart from just simple text editing
[13:52] <Mas_Sergio> hi Oreo...those are my fav cookies i love the "double stuffed" version they had a while ago :)
[13:52] <psycho_oreos> Mas_Sergio, hi
[13:53] <Mas_Sergio> windows are supposed to open from the task bar or do you mean something else branden?? :s
[13:53] <Shrikee> Problem: Ati vsync off on desktop and videos (vlc), with Ati h
[13:53] <Shrikee> ati hd
[13:53] <Mas_Sergio> braden_, explain ur problem a little more..
[13:53] <Shrikee> 4650
[13:53] <st__> johnny_, you were asking for text editor for code writing
[13:54] <braden_> okay ill open mozilla and i wont have the option to minimize maximize or anything....
[13:54] <Mas_Sergio> physco oreos have you ever tried the "double stuff" oreos? they're good...i dont think they make them anympore lol
[13:54] <psycho_oreos> braden_, it might be a grouping issue where multiple windows of the same software are open and in order to keep track of separate windows for each programs easier, they are grouped
[13:54] <Mas_Sergio> oh wow thats crazy brandon, have you installed any new themes lately?
[13:54] <Mas_Sergio> try changing themes and see if your GUI comes back
[13:54] <psycho_oreos> Mas_Sergio, nope
[13:55] <braden_> if it makes a different i had a graphics error when i updated  and i restarted and it said it was going into low graphics mode?
[13:55] <Mas_Sergio> * right click desktop and select change desktop background, in there select a diff theme braden_
[13:55] <bazhang> !ot | Mas_Sergio
[13:55] <braden_> i tried changing themes already
[13:55] <Mas_Sergio> huh?
[13:55] <Mas_Sergio> did i break a rule :o
[13:55] <bazhang> Mas_Sergio, keep the chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:56] <Mas_Sergio> ooooo
[13:56] <Mas_Sergio> ok
[13:56] <psycho_oreos> Mas_Sergio, you were talking about oreo's as in the cookie/biscuits which are offtopic :)
[13:56] <Shrikee> Sorry, missed enters. So: Ati hd4650 fglrx drivers on, and i dont have vsnyc on desktop and video playback (vlc player). Where can i find help about this? Tried hungarian ubuntu forum already, no one knew how to fix
[13:56] <Mas_Sergio> i had no idea,,,i was supporting branden though. sorry :s
[13:56] <oracle> apt-cache pkgnames shows something called pipenightdreams
[13:57] <oracle> i dont seem able to run this at all. i removed all the gnome-games
[13:57] <oracle> it's still there
[13:57] <braden_> if it makes a different i had a graphics error when i updated  and i restarted and it said it was going into low graphics mode?
[13:57] <oracle> oh, and is popularity-contest on by default in the latest ubuntu?
[13:58] <Mas_Sergio> braden_, i had that same error before to, did you compile the driver your self, or download it off the net?
[13:58] <braden_> i downloaded it from the list you get
[13:58] <braden_> in hardware drivers
[13:59] <psycho_oreos> braden_, it shouldn't in theory but I don't have the latest version running nor do I have fancy candy-UI features enabled (which is what you may have installed/configured and hence because you're using low graphics mode, such features are disabled, but in theory it shouldn't affect with the usability of the desktop)
[13:59] <Mas_Sergio> system>admin>hardware drivers is where you should try downloading video card drivers from...it tends to be the easisest (least buggy) way to get your drivers...
[13:59] <braden_> thats what i did
[14:00] <Mas_Sergio> try an older driver...
[14:00] <braden_> okay
[14:00] <Mas_Sergio> i had to use an older driver once sometimes newer drivers are buggy
[14:01] <Mas_Sergio> i got compiz enabled all runs great. That shouldn be bringing him down unless he has a real ancient PC :p
[14:01] <yudi1> st__: looked at local security policies, looks like I need to read up before I play with it, thanks for letting me know.
[14:01] <BluesKaj> braden_, firstly did you choose the recomended driver ,some ppl just choose the highlighted driver . mistakenly thinking it's the correct one
[14:02] <jzaboo> Hi, just a short general question which is not really about Ubuntu but Linux compatibility. Using PGP I can send the mail using MIME oder everything inside the message body as plain text (pub key, sign). Which is better when thinking of cross-plattform compatibility?
[14:03] <mR0> I need some help here. Any buddy...?
[14:03] <psycho_oreos> !ask | mR0
[14:04] <foobart> mR0, ask and ye shall recieve
[14:04] <chocobanana> Hi everyone!!!
[14:05] <psycho_oreos> !hi | chocobanana
[14:05] <foobart> !hi
[14:05] <chenlong> hello
[14:05] <psycho_oreos> !hello | chocobanana
[14:05] <foobart> they got rid of it :)
[14:05] <chocobanana> !hello
[14:05] <psycho_oreos> ugh
[14:05] <chocobanana> hmm...
[14:05] <jzaboo> or mb I should ask my question in a pgp chan?
[14:05] <foobart> funny the alias is still there :)
[14:06] <psycho_oreos> jzaboo, yeah I'd give that a try as well
[14:06] <jzaboo> (psycho_oreos): ok
[14:06] <jzaboo> (Psychoholic): ok
[14:06] <jzaboo> (psychomog): ok
[14:06] <foobart> anyone familiar with gnome/xorg under the hood?
[14:06] <jzaboo> nickcompleter fail ^^
[14:06] <jrib> foobart: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[14:06] <honson> what
[14:06] <dewey_> hi all, is there a way to open an graphical application withouth the terminal staying active?
[14:07] <dewey_> firefox http://www.google.nl, the command stays active untill I close th eapp
[14:07] <dewey_> I just want to open it (like open on mac)
[14:07] <jzaboo> (dewey_): You mean graphical without Xserver?
[14:07] <jrib> dewey_: firefox & disown   for example
[14:07] <llutz> dewey_:  firefox http://www.google.nl &
[14:07] <dewey_> sweettttt
[14:07] <dewey_> thnx
[14:07] <braden_> ifferent driver did nothing
[14:08] <psycho_oreos> dewey_, that will run in the background until you close it.. exec may help
[14:08] <foobart> ok -- in gnome my keyboard basically stopped working.  xev shows the keypress events (the keyobard and x see each other) and changing the input manager (for example, from None to ibus) makes the keyboard function for a tiny length of time .. but one-two seconds later it will stop working again.
[14:08] <jzaboo> (dewey_): You can start xserver with a minimalistic window manager. Just google for some window managers. There are some very lightweight version which can display just windows
[14:08] <bazhang> foobart, in maverick?
[14:08] <foobart> bazhang, is this a common problem in maverick?
[14:08] <braden_> this is what my windows are doing http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/4891/myproblem.png
[14:09] <bazhang> foobart, are you still running maverick?
[14:09] <foobart> bazhang, is this a common problem in maverick?
[14:09] <jzaboo> (dewey_): lwm ord ICEwm are really good
[14:09] <foobart> braden_, pretty gui
[14:09] <braden_> thanks
[14:09] <BluesKaj> !maverick |foobart ,
[14:09] <braden_> Now can someone please help...
[14:09] <dewey_> jzaboo: thnx for your help but I already got my answer (just locally, with & at the end)
[14:09] <bazhang> foobart, you've been asked to keep maverick questions in #ubuntu+1
[14:10] <BluesKaj> braden_, which graphics card?
[14:10] <jzaboo> (dewey_): ok ^^
[14:10] <braden_> Nvidia accelerator version 93 i believe it was called
[14:10] <braden_> i just had compiz working too
[14:10] <braden_> then the first time i restart it goes into low graphics mode
[14:10] <yudi1> I dont remember installing KpackageKit (i am running gnome by the way) , How did it install automatically??
[14:10] <BluesKaj> braden_, that' s a driver , which card ?
[14:11] <Mas_Sergio> the older driver didnt work either? *sigh..
[14:11] <Mas_Sergio> @ braden_
[14:11] <happydude> how do i add kernel parameters to grub when there is no menu.lst
[14:11] <psycho_oreos> braden_, lspci may help there
[14:11] <BluesKaj> braden_, in the terminal , lspci | grep VGA
[14:11] <jrib> !grub2 > happydude
[14:11] <jzaboo> (braden_): Some window managers have their own graphic card config. some still use xorg.conf
[14:12] <kishon> I face issues when running zimbra Desktop..
[14:12] <jzaboo> (braden_): which one is that on the picture?
[14:12] <braden_> 00:05.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation C51 [GeForce 6150 LE] (rev a2)
[14:12] <foobart> this is why I asked if anyone was familiar with gnome itself .. Ive been having this problem for 4 days and no one in maverick knows because the problem is some config got screwed up during install. the problem is no more about maverick than having a fsck error during bootup after a power outage is a problem specific to karmic
[14:12] <jrib> foobart: does the problem happen on lucid?
[14:14] <krzys> I'm confused with following question:
[14:14] <foobart> jrib, yes Im sure even lucid could have problems when the install is interrupted or the disk media fails to store data
[14:14] <krzys> Is 64 bits application taking more mamory than 32 bit one?
[14:14] <SwedeMike> a little.
[14:14] <krzys> I read some posts about it and I'm not sure
[14:15] <jzaboo> (jrib):
[14:15] <jzaboo> (jribas):
[14:15] <Mas_Sergio> 64bit runs slighty faster from what i read.
[14:15] <snake82> sera
[14:15] <braden_> i put that into terminal
[14:15] <jrib> foobart: you're not answering my question :/  Get the problem to show up on a lucid install, then we can help you.  If you're running maverick, then #ubuntu+1 is the right place.  If you believe it's some sort of user config issue, I suggest you try to replicate the issue with a fresh new user account.  If it's a botched install, well then you need to reinstall...
[14:15] <jrib> jzaboo: hmm?
[14:15] <SwedeMike> Mas_Sergio: it depends.
[14:15] <jzaboo> (jrib): sorry ... hit the nickcompleter by mistake ^^
[14:15] <jzaboo> (jribas): sorry ... hit the nickcompleter by mistake ^^
[14:16] <jrib> jzaboo: well stop saying things in double at least
[14:16] <yudi1> how do I check if my system is secure?  I had SSH on password auth for few days and people tried to break in. so changed the port and removed password auth. only public key logins. I would like to know how to check my system has not been compromised?
[14:16] <juk> !nmap | yudi1
[14:16] <foobart> jrib, as the problem is likely caused by power or such it isnt likely reproducible on demand
[14:17] <jzaboo> jrib sorry the nickcompleter sometimes goess nuts.. was not intended to happen
[14:17] <jrib> foobart: you said it stops working after 1-2 seconds...
[14:17] <Drone_> What backup software do you guys use?
[14:17] <AbhiJit> !backup | Drone_
[14:17] <Mas_Sergio> Drone have you heard of remastersys???
[14:17] <bazhang> Drone_, sbackup, rsync, depends
[14:17] <foobart> jrib, when I change the input manager, the input begins to work. a couple seconds later, some internal thing in gnome turns it back off
[14:17] <Drone_> ty
[14:17] <krzys> @SwedeMike What do you mean "a little"? Is it 10% or 5%?
[14:17] <jrib> foobart: yes, please do what I've told you to do
[14:18] <krzys> @SwedeMike speed depends on what?
[14:18] <SwedeMike> krzys: it depends. only thing to know if to test your perticular application.
[14:18] <jzaboo> yudi1 changing the port is security through obscurity which is not recommended. Just use pubkey auth and turn off PAM auth in sshd.conf
[14:18] <jrib> yudi1: consider fail2ban or denyhosts
[14:18] <foobart> jrib, can you do something for me please? ignore me and let me seek support from the ubuntu community for a problem that I feel personally is not likely restricted to maverick
[14:19] <bazhang> foobart, you are using maverick, please use the appropriate channel, thanks
[14:19] <putyn> hey :) do you guys offer support for the pinguy distro ?
[14:19] <Drone_> Mas.  No I have not
[14:19] <jzaboo> yudi1 no one would be able to bruteforce ssh because of the missing private key. If you would like to monitor your server for anormal behavior, use some tools like mrtg or aditional software like fail2ban
[14:19] <bazhang> putyn, nope
[14:19] <putyn> do pinguy have there own support channel ?
[14:19] <SwedeMike> krzys: I'm sure someone could spend 10 pages of examples of how the difference is between different applications and different architectures etc, some will be faster, some will not. AES-NI on the new intel processors is an 64bit operation only, so there AES encryption will be 40x faster with 64bit.
[14:19] <bazhang> putyn, /msg alis list *pinguy*
[14:19] <foobart> bazhang, I _am_ using the appropriate channel so far as I am concernedd. the ubuntu+1 channel is for maverick problems and they are none too thrilled over there to tackle things they feel are not problems in general for maverick. thats why I am here
[14:20] <putyn> ok thanks
[14:20] <bazhang> foobart, are you running maverick?
[14:20] <foobart> bazhang, like I said, Ive been asking for most of a week on that channel and not one pip have I heard about it in reply
[14:20] <Gnea> yudi1: you typically don't need to worry too much about it, but if you want to get to the point of being able to detect and easily see what's going on, http://www.itsecurity.com/features/ubuntu-secure-install-resource/
[14:20] <bazhang> foobart, so yes then to the maverick question.
[14:20] <SwedeMike> foobart: there is no easy way to tell if you've been pwned. only way to be sure is to re-install.
[14:21] <foobart> bazhang, but if I talk aobut an issue that is specific to maverick, they are all over it like flies to honey
[14:21] <foobart> can you do something for me please? ignore me and let me seek support from the ubuntu community for a problem that I feel personally is not likely restricted to maverick
[14:21] <bobstro> jzaboo:  changing the port will avoid a lot of the automated scripts. as the only protective measure, it wouldn't be recommended, but fine with others.
[14:21] <yudi1> jzaboo: jrib: am using fail2ban, disabled PAM as well, nmap says all ports are closed on localhost and my local IP. I still would like to read about how to detect any intrusions.
[14:22] <bobstro> yudi1:  do you run any log analysis tools?
[14:22] <krzys> SwedeMike: Is 64 bit taking more memory because of processor registers or sth more?
[14:22] <foobart> SwedeMike, Im not sure what to reinstlal.. I have reinstalled the entire xserver-xorg subsystem, the kernel,
[14:22] <jzaboo> bobstro well, mist prot scanners usually use ICMP or SYN probing and due to the way the server replies, you can already see what kind of OS it's using. Sure, changing the port might prevent the logfiles from overflow...
[14:23] <foobart> SwedeMike, and the ubuntu-desktop package
[14:23] <SwedeMike> krzys: mostly because the instructions are longer.
[14:23] <SwedeMike> foobart: I'm talking about complete re-install. If someone installed a rootkit on you, then it's hard to tell.
[14:23] <SwedeMike> krzys: but also some data structures might be longer as well
[14:23] <foobart> SwedeMike, I dont have a security issue, I think you meant to reply to someone else
[14:23] <bobstro> jzaboo:  that's extra effort at least, and certainly slows them down. the old case of not having to out-run the bear and all.
[14:23] <SwedeMike> foobart: oh, sorry.
[14:24] <SwedeMike> oh, it was yudi1 I wanted to reply to.
[14:24] <beefncheese> hey can anyone here help me with awesome window manager 3
[14:24] <yudi1> Gnea: just the right info I was looking for. thank you. will have a read.
[14:24] <bobstro> yudi1:  i'm understanding you just got probes, and don't suspect an actual compromise at this point, right?
[14:25] <jzaboo> (bobstro): yeah. Just noticed that fail2ban is also a good solution since iptable rules will block any further request send to the port. They might try to bypass that rule by manipulating the IP source adress but most firewalls will notice that
[14:25] <yudi1> bobstro: yes
[14:25] <tgywa> Hi ...
[14:25] <tgywa> how do I change the default command-line shell in Ubuntu
[14:25] <tgywa> how do I change the default command-line shell in Ubuntu ??
[14:25] <jrib> tgywa: chsh
[14:25] <jzaboo> (yudi1): Fail2ban's logfiles can be parsed by mrtg
[14:25] <bobstro> yudi1:  logcheck takes a lot of tuning, but is a nice way to get a summary of unusual activity once tuned.
[14:26] <krzys> SwedeMike: so what is average increase in memory usage?
[14:26] <jzaboo> (yudi1): fail2ban can also send you some mails in case of blocked requests but this will flood you with 20+ mails every day
[14:26] <yudi1> bobstro: I have no log analysis tools but use something like the "grep -ir ssh /var/log/auth.log" and some other variants
[14:27] <bobstro> yudi1:  logcheck just lets you flag which entries are routine. the idea is that you might not know which are interesting before hand, so anything you haven't set as OK get sent to you .
[14:27] <SwedeMike> krzys: http://www.osnews.com/story/5768 gives some examples.
[14:27] <bobstro> yudi1:  it does take a lot of tuning though.
[14:27] <jzaboo> (yudi1): I'd recommend using some kind of monitoring software where graphs can show you the actual amount of attempts against your machine. Knowing if your machien has been compromised can be done by monitoring traffic and/or numbers of processes.
[14:27] <SwedeMike> krzys: but that's for sparc, so intel might be different.
[14:27] <dewey_> jrib psycho_oreos is there a way I can close the app started at the command line with & ? killall / kill doesn't close the app
[14:28] <bobstro> yudi1:  you've followed hardening guidelines?
[14:28] <yudi1> jzaboo: i do not get any rouge attempts now because I am behind NAT, but when I am directly connected its pretty scary
[14:28] <bobstro> yudi1:  are you the only user of this system, or is it public?
[14:28] <bobstro> yudi1:  you'll see thousands
[14:28] <jrib> dewey_: killall, kill, all will work.  But it's probably easier for you to use xkill if it's a gui app and just click on it
[14:29] <psycho_oreos> dewey_, kill requires the pid of the program (or you can parse it through pidof/pgrep) and killall should work generally unless the name of the program is different
[14:29] <dewey_> it's a strange scenario, but I' need to start and close the app by command line
[14:29] <dewey_> QUI
[14:29] <dewey_> GUI
[14:29] <jrib> dewey_: why?  explain the scenario
[14:29] <dewey_> it's an external server who needs to play an video in the browser and after a while close it
[14:30] <jzaboo> (yudi1): Ehr... with NAT and NO port redirection ssh won't work from remote anyway. Sure, when you're directly connected those requests might increase but don't worry. Choosing a good password for root and following guidlines when configuring your server and fs rights, you're on a good start.
[14:30] <dewey_> (with ubuntu desktop 10 on it)
[14:30] <yudi1> bobstro: hardening guidelines? it's my personal system and only I use it. I connect to this system from work sometimes. right now I just close all the ports in the firewall and only open them when needed
[14:30] <Inferus> hi, trying to install a hp 4250 printer on ubuntu
[14:30] <Inferus> i thought it would "just work" but when i try to print test pages i get "incorrect driver" errors
[14:30] <Inferus> any ideas please?
[14:30] <bobstro> yudi1:  you can test yourself -- allow port 22 in, then a non-default port and compare the amount of attention it gets.
[14:31] <jzaboo> (yudi1): If you're really paranoid and only connect to the server from one machine on the internet, you might set some rule in your router which only allows packets on port 22 within your ISPs IP-range
[14:31] <bobstro> yudi1:  port knocking or some other technique can supplement your efforts.
[14:31] <bobstro> yudi1:  is the box on a dmz?
[14:32] <juk> bobstro: how about key authentication, is it possible?
[14:32] <yudi1> jzaboo: I use a usb broadband stick? so I am behind the ISP NAT when using pre paid sim but connect directly when using post paid sim.
[14:33] <bobstro> juk:  absolutely. i think he's doing that already -- no password logins.
[14:33] <krzys> SwedeMike: thx
[14:33] <tapoxi> Hey all, I have a neat little Alix 2D3 board with a 1 GB CF card - no video. Is there any image of Ubuntu/Debian I can put on that card that I can then configure through telnet/ssh/serial?
[14:33] <acovrig> does 'tcp        0      0 192.168.2.8:ssh         c-71-228-197-38.h:47062 ESTABLISHED' sound bad given I don't know who that IP is (from `netstat`)
[14:33] <bobstro> yudi1:  you control the firewall, right?
[14:34] <yudi1> bobstro: I was looking at port knocking. looks interesting.
[14:34] <tgywa> jrib, thanks !
[14:34] <jzaboo> (yudi1): ISP doesn't use NAT in some way of protecting your connection from unwanted requests. Just use NAT on your server's connection and only open (forward) nessecary ports.
[14:34] <bobstro> yudi1:  don't forget to set logging there to detect unusual in and out traffic, even if the box gets compromised.
[14:34] <yudi1> bobstro: yes use UFW
[14:34] <tgywa> How do I know which boot loader am I using on Ubuntu Lilo/Grub??
[14:34] <bobstro> yudi1:  is there a firewall/router between the box & internet?
[14:34] <jzaboo> bobstro Already told him about mrtg
[14:34] <juk> bobstro: no I mean rsa gps keys, along with fare pass, im noob
[14:35] <bobstro> jzaboo:  yes, i'm suggesting on router as well
[14:35] <jzaboo> bobstro ah you mean SNMP ok..
[14:35] <yudi1> bobstro: no, just the UFW no router. its a laptop. I move around a lot
[14:35] <bobstro> juk:  ssh has key-based authentication, and it's a good idea.
[14:36] <bobstro> jzaboo:  or something similar, yes. so he can see traffic actually coming & going rather than depending on the exposed system.
[14:36] <yudi1> jzaboo: will look at mrtg
[14:36] <jzaboo> (bobstro): yep, that's why I bought a WRT 54GL :-)
[14:36] <bobstro> jzaboo:  but it sounds like that's not an option.
[14:36] <juk> bobstro: so if have rootpass 12345, and sshd running isn't like anyone can be root on my system, one guy here told me that
[14:36] <bobstro> jzaboo:  i bought 3 of the suckas back at version 1.1 :)
[14:36] <bobstro> jzaboo:  they are slow though.
[14:37] <bobstro> juk:  with the keys, knowing the password won't be enough, yes. if that's what you mean.
[14:37] <maedox> acovrig: c-71-228-197-38.h is not a valid hostname. Do « sudo nestat -n|grep :22 »
[14:37] <jzaboo> (bobstro): slow? Hm, have been using different versions of dd-wrt and everything is nice. Even modified mine with active cooling, parallel-port for jtag flashing and SD-cardslot
[14:37] <bobstro> jzaboo:  i just noticed my throughput drops compared to a cisco router i have.
[14:38] <bobstro> jzaboo:  i love it though, don't get me wrong. dd-wrt is amazing.
[14:38] <senthilnambi> Hey guys, hows it going
[14:38] <jzaboo> (bobstro): perhaps turn of traffic monitoring or raise maximum connections.
[14:38] <acovrig> maedox: 'tcp        0      0 192.168.2.8:22          71.228.197.38:47062     ESTABLISHED'
[14:38] <yudi1> juk: use public key with a pass-phrase for added security and also use allowusers option
[14:38] <bobstro> jzaboo:  it was a straight bandwidth test off of dslreports. i'd get 10+ Mbps down with the cisco, half that with dd-wrt on the wrt.
[14:39] <Drone_> Why would my Ubuntu system get speeds of 7Mb/1Mb and my W7 system get speeds of 28Mb/5Mb ?  Via Speedtest.net Both use same router, static DHCP, no special rules setup.
[14:39] <juk> bobstro: sure? you releaved me, coz I was really concernd, coz i always go for 12345 qwert ... and removed all daemons, even cupsd
[14:39] <st__> how to combat "locale not supported by C library" messages?
[14:39] <astier> !locale
[14:39] <astier> st__: set the proper locale
[14:39] <Qwert> juk: Sorry?
[14:39] <bobstro> juk:  other measures (e.g. firewall) are still a good idea, but yes, you can secure ssh that way.
[14:39] <maedox> acovrig: so, do you have another computer or device within you network with that comcast address?
[14:39] <juk> yudi1: can you send me link ?
[14:39] <jzaboo> (bobstro): hm, seems like increasing maximum connections and lowering timeouts for UDP/TCP might help.
[14:40] <acovrig> maedox: not that I know of
[14:40] <juk> Qwert: no, im talking to bobstro, im using passwords like you nick
[14:40] <bobstro> jzaboo:  i'll experiment sometime, but a speed test shouldn't hit either of those maximums. maybe mtu tuning and the like will help.
[14:40] <c3l> Drone_: where do you live to get 28 Mb/s downstream?
[14:40] <senthilnambi> Is git down for anyone else?
[14:40] <Qwert> juk: Ah-ok. Alright
[14:41] <Drone_> SW Michigan.  28 is nothing
[14:41] <Drone_> I'vbe seen up to 77
[14:41] <senthilnambi> I'm not able to push any code to my server using github
[14:41] <Drone_> <3 Comcast
[14:41] <bobstro> juk:  the keys just restrict access to whoever and wherever those keys are. you can password-protect the actual keys too, so if your machine gets stolen, the keys won't let them in.
[14:42] <maedox> acovrig: do you need anyone to access port 22 from the outside?
[14:42] <jzaboo> (bobstro): yeah, just play with the parameters. Had to do this when using rapiddshare downloaders because they open many connections at once for testing whether the files are up or down. Lowering the timeout has stopped my router from slowing down (and even crashing the webserver on it)
[14:42] <st__> astier, that article is terribly outdated
[14:42] <c3l> senthilnambi: github is working fine
[14:42] <bobstro> jzaboo:  i just wonder what the max is on the little linksys. i haven't overclocked mine or anything.
[14:43] <c3l> senthilnambi: although that would be a question for #github, not #ubuntu
[14:43] <yudi1> juk: link for what?
[14:43] <bobstro> jzaboo:  do you play with the NSLU2s as well?
[14:43] <Drone_> Why would my Ubuntu system get speeds of 7Mb/1Mb and my W7 system get speeds of 28Mb/5Mb ?  Via Speedtest.net Both use same router, static DHCP, no special rules setup.
[14:43] <jzaboo> (bobstro): I wouldn't overclock the device without installing some kind of cooling mod on it.
[14:43] <root> hi
[14:43] <senthilnambi> @c3l Just saw a github room, apologies
[14:43] <erUSUL> Drone_: wifi ?
[14:44] <happydude> where is the editable list of bootables for grub2?
[14:44] <Drone_> nope
[14:44] <Guest94456> hi
[14:44] <st__> how to enable utf-8 in xterm?
[14:44] <juk> yudi1: no i'd research on secure ssh, as bobstro suggested
[14:44] <bobstro> Drone_:  firewall?
[14:44] <juk> !ssh
[14:44] <c3l> Guest94456: /etc/default/grub
[14:44] <Drone_> not that I am aware of
[14:44] <juk> !openssh
[14:44] <c3l> Guest94456: sorry
[14:44] <astier> st__: it's enabled by default. what are you doing to get your message?
[14:45] <c3l> happydude: /etc/default/grub
[14:45] <happydude> c3l, appearantly not. it just contains options
[14:45] <bastid_raZor> yudi1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys
[14:45] <erUSUL> Drone_: at what speed is conected « sudo ethtool eth0 | grep Speed »
[14:45] <karlo94> I cannot set microphone to work.. any suggestions?
[14:46] <st__> it's not: it dumps utf-8 text as some kind of Latin-1 codepage and non-ascii letters are not typed in
[14:46] <jzaboo> (bobstro): nope, don't have any of them. When thinking about a NAS storage device I still would buy cisco products but Thecus also has some good products
[14:46] <c3l> happydude: hm, ive done it, just dont remember, ill look around
[14:46] <Drone_> command not found
[14:46] <c3l> happydude: it seems to be one of the files in /etc/grub.d
[14:46] <bobstro> jzaboo:  i put debian on an nslu2 and use it on a dmz for my ssh connects. nice little box to harden.
[14:47] <anqiCN__> #ubuntu_cn
[14:47] <bobstro> jzaboo:  i guess i could use it for nas too. :)
[14:47] <jzaboo> (bobstro): NAS as SSH tunnel? lol ok... not worrying about the files stored on it?
[14:47] <erUSUL> Drone_: sudo aptitude install ethtool
[14:47] <bobstro> jzaboo:  well, it's just a dinky debian box now. no nas, only 40G drive on it. :)
[14:48] <Drone_> Speed: 100Mb/s
[14:48] <jzaboo> (bobstro): OK:-) Well still better than building an extra machine with has higher power consumption
[14:48] <bobstro> Drone_:  do you have an iptables firewall on the linux box running?
[14:48] <bobstro> jzaboo:  that's the idea. i'm trying to get rid of power-munching boxes.
[14:48] <Drone_> no idea, I am newb
[14:49] <karlo94> I can not set microphone to work.. any suggestions?
[14:49] <jzaboo> (bobstro): Yeah, that's what "green IT" is all about
[14:49] <bobstro> Drone_:  if you open a terminal and do 'sudo iptables -nvL', that will show you any active rules.
[14:50] <iTroll> email client to read local maildirs?
[14:50] <bobstro> Drone_:  if you just see 'accept' policies for INPUT, FORWARD and OUT, none is running.
[14:50] <bastid_raZor> iTroll: mutt
[14:50] <st__> iTroll, thunderbirf or pine
[14:50] <juk> bobstro: random art image is so cool!
[14:50] <jzaboo> (bobstro): Also a good way of minimizing heat and costs for cooling stuff is buying a big machine (like Dell 2959) and run VMs on it
[14:50] <bobstro> juk:  ?
[14:50] <iTroll> bastud_raZor: mutt is commandline only right?
[14:50] <Drone_> http://pastebin.com/MDYu5GcG
[14:50] <jzaboo> (bobstro): meant 2950
[14:50] <st__> how to enable utf-8 in xterm?
[14:50] <bastid_raZor> iTroll: yes
[14:51] <iTroll> st__: I thought thunderbird didnt support reading local maildirs...
[14:51] <juk> bobstro: no, i just generated mykey.rsa file
[14:51] <bobstro> jzaboo:  i've had a linux server running for years, and finally got it beefed up enough to run VMs.
[14:51] <bastid_raZor> iTroll: try evolution, its installed already.
[14:51] <llutz> !ot
[14:51] <iluminameluna> hi, my name is iluminameluna and I have a comatose system that I badly need help with?
[14:51] <bobstro> jzaboo:  going green has made me abandon all my old hardware-hoarding ways.
[14:52] <bobstro> juk:  oh, gotcha!
[14:52] <st__> iTroll, i thought it supported  mailboxes... not sure about maildirs
[14:52] <juk> llutz: am I doing ot?
[14:52] <st__> iluminameluna, it's normal ubuntu condition. go ahead
[14:52] <jzaboo> (bobstro): *sigh* I wish I could run CUbase on WINE and wouldn't have bought some paper weight called "Lexmark"
[14:52] <iluminameluna> I have Win XP Pro, SP3 w/ Ubuntu 10.04 installed side-by-side
[14:53] <jzaboo> (bobstro): But windows 7 is nice anyway. It's all about how you work with files and your web behaviour.
[14:53] <iluminameluna> and from the beginning I seemed to have a quickly-diminishing space problem
[14:53] <bobstro> jzaboo:  mine's an ex-desktop motherboard. i found an AMD quad-core CPU that would fit and upped it to 6 GB. nothing special, but it's adequate for a few VMs.
[14:53] <anqiCN__> amd and intel
[14:54] <llutz> !ot | bobstro jzaboo could you please take to -offtopic
[14:54] <jzaboo> (bobstro): Yeah those VMs are better for managing CPU resources
[14:54] <jzaboo> (ubottu): sorry
[14:54] <st__> when installing, I said my system would be "C", how to undo it now?
[14:54] <tgywa> how do I know which bootloader is managing my Ubuntu machine?
[14:54] <bobstro> llutz:  we're talking about doing this on ubuntu!
[14:54] <iluminameluna> I posted my problem on a few forums after looking for anything to do w/ partitions and allocating space for Ubuntu but couldn't find anything remotely like my prob
[14:54] <st__> tgywa, check /boot contents
[14:54] <iluminameluna> I was asked at one point to go into terminal and get some output
[14:55] <jzaboo> I'll have to go now anyway... byebye
[14:55] <bobstro> i'd think consolidating servers under ubuntu for a home server would be on topic!
[14:55] <st__> iluminameluna, tried rm -rf /var/cache/* ?
[14:55] <happydude> All I want to do is add a new entry to grub menu that has a single added kernel parameter. Is this no longer possible in 10.04?
[14:55] <st__> happydude, it's possible just edit templates
[14:55] <tgywa> st__, I have grub in there
[14:55] <iluminameluna> when I went to boot into my ubuntu, the system told me there was insufficient space to load the os and sent me back to the boot menu
[14:55] <bobstro> Drone_:  sorry, just noticed your screenshot
[14:56] <blackshell> how do i change the boot order of my dual boot compute
[14:56] <happydude> st__, what templates?
[14:56] <sanguisdex> I have an extra moniter at work but not one at home when I hit the crt/lcd button on my lappy my screen goes blank is there a way to have that not happen?
[14:56] <st__> tgywa, is inside it files menu.lst or grub.conf?
[14:56] <iluminameluna> and then rescue grub:
[14:56] <bastid_raZor> happydude: add it to the line GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=  in /etc/default/grub
[14:56] <aliverius> is /dev/urandom or /dev/random the most secure?
[14:56] <bastid_raZor> happydude: then run sudo update-grub
[14:56] <st__> happydude, in /etc/grub.d
[14:56] <bobstro> Drone_:  you seem to be running some sort of iptables firewall which is good. but that might affect performance.
[14:56] <happydude> bastid_raZor, what do I add to that line?
[14:56] <elliot_> I am trying to play a DVD on my laptop and it won't work. It goes to movie player the says "an error occurred could not read from resource" what should I do?
[14:57] <AbhiJit> BlackBinary, how many and which os you have installed? which is the os you installed the last?
[14:57] <st__> bastid_raZor, i think he needs two separate entries with different cmdline
[14:57] <bastid_raZor> happydude: add your kernel parameter you wish it too see.
[14:57] <AbhiJit> :(
[14:57] <AbhiJit> blackshell, , how many and which os you have installed? which is the os you installed the last?
[14:57] <bobstro> Drone_:  any idea what installed those iptables rules?
[14:57] <bastid_raZor> happydude: what are you trying to add?
[14:57] <yeamiden> .irc.gr
[14:57] <happydude> st__, /etc/grub.d contains horrible scripts
[14:57] <Alexia_Death> Hi guys. I need a bit of help.
[14:57] <happydude> fsprotect=4G
[14:57] <yeamiden> lol
[14:57] <blackshell> win7 and ubuntu,ubuntu 10.04 is the last i installed,can you tell me which file to edit?
[14:58] <BlackBinary> AbhiJit:  Many,.. Win, Linux, BSD, OSX,  why?
[14:58] <AbhiJit> !grub2 | blackshell edit grub conf
[14:58] <bastid_raZor> happydude: use /etc/default/grub
[14:58] <Alexia_Death> After login and load is complete all clicks from my input devices get disabled.
[14:58] <AbhiJit> BlackBinary, sorry wrong nick
[14:58] <BlackBinary> AbhiJit: okay
[14:58] <iluminameluna> have not tried rm -rf /var/cache/*  but there was a previous sudo command to clear "something" .. I'm just starting to learn sudo commands
[14:58] <happydude> bastid_raZor, I am using that. How do I add fsprotect as an option to the kernel
[14:58] <iluminameluna> and I'm lost w/ grub
[14:59] <bobstro> DroneWork:  you still there?
[14:59] <Alexia_Death> I thought my synaptics touchpad was playing silly buggers but no such luck. still no clicks with an USB mouse
[14:59] <AbhiJit> blackshell, hey you want to change which os to boot default right?
[14:59] <bastid_raZor> happydude: as i stated previously.  add it to the line GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=""   then save and run sudo update-grub
[14:59] <fabionelson> I just update my Ubuntu, and my grub was replaced... how can I reverse it?
[14:59] <Alexia_Death> The pointer moves just fine, but no clicks are happening.
[15:00] <happydude> AbhiJit, I want to have two options: one with fsprotect=4G and one without.
[15:00] <st__> fabionelson, why you should to?
[15:00] <AbhiJit> happydude, huh???? i was not talking to you
[15:00] <tgywa> st__, no ... I don't have menu.list/grub.conf in /boot
[15:00] <iluminameluna> I have read about grub2 being the default something but I'm still unclear as what grub IS ...
[15:00] <blackshell> AbhiJit:yeah
[15:00] <st__> tgywa, in /boot/grub
[15:00] <AbhiJit> blackshell, ok then follow instruction on that link
[15:00] <blackshell> k
[15:00] <senthilnambi1> Has someone fixed the out of control gedit "take up all processing power when closed" problem?
[15:01] <m3asmi> hi m3asmi
[15:01] <st__> senthilnambi1, i thought it was fixed ages ago
[15:01] <AbhiJit> !hi | m3asmi
[15:01] <Alexia_Death> anybody got any tips for me?
[15:01] <AbhiJit> :(
[15:01] <senthilnambi1> st__: It was? Its still bugging me with 10.04
[15:02] <AbhiJit> the factoid is got removed!!! :'(
[15:02] <m3asmi> hi Abhijit
[15:02] <AbhiJit> ahhh
[15:02] <iluminameluna> for what it's worth, the Ubuntu install was seeing /media as the Win Docs and Settings dir
[15:02] <lolo> waiting for the 10.10
[15:02] <lolo> showing
[15:02] <st__> iluminameluna, strange, is windows in working condition?
[15:03] <iluminameluna> which is the dir w/ most of my pics and music, about 7G worth on a 16G ssd drive
[15:03] <Alexia_Death> strangely enough, I can scroll within the current window, but not change focus to anything else. its as i left and right click have become disabled.
[15:03] <iluminameluna> not at this point
[15:03] <iluminameluna> I can't get into either of the os'
[15:03] <Gnea> Alexia_Death: usb or ps2 mouse?
[15:04] <tgywa> st__,  /boot/grub/grub.cfg ... I've that
[15:04] <m3asmi> how to add derectories to Lamp esxecution
[15:04] <Alexia_Death> Gnea: USB mouse.
[15:04] <st__> tgywa, so it Grub2
[15:04] <Gnea> Alexia_Death: on a hub or plugged directly to the computer?
[15:04] <queso> How do I determine if my proc is 32 or 64 bit?
[15:04] <Alexia_Death> Gnea: directly in the computer
[15:04] <iluminameluna> I could boot from either my pendrive w/ 10.04 for netbook or the flash drive w/ ubuntu as a standalone desktop
[15:04] <Alexia_Death> Gnea: It worked untill startup completed.
[15:04] <AbhiJit> queso, http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-how-to-find-if-processor-is-64-bit-or-not/
[15:05] <queso> AbhiJit: thx
[15:05] <Gnea> Alexia_Death: tried different usb ports? how about checked to make sure there aren't any fuzzies blocking the laser?
[15:05] <AbhiJit> queso, welcome!
[15:05] <Alexia_Death> Gnea: My internal synaptics touchpad has exact same syptoms.
[15:05] <elliot_> I am trying to play a DVD on my laptop and it won't work. It goes to movie player the says "an error occurred could not read from resource" what should I do?
[15:06] <tgywa> st__, thanks
[15:06] <Gnea> Alexia_Death: what version of Ubuntu? did you just upgrade or did it start happening out of the blue without any updates?
[15:06] <Alexia_Death> Gnea: Also the system load is normal.
[15:06] <AbhiJit> elliot_, i think its encypted. does it play on win system?
[15:06] <AbhiJit> !restricted | elliot_
[15:06] <bastid_raZor> queso: grep -i lm /proc/cpuinfo   :if you get a response then you have 64bit, if not you have 32bit
[15:06] <Alexia_Death> Gnea: I did some updates yesterday, but its a clean install of Lucid with KDE.
[15:06] <Alexia_Death> Gnea: It worked fine last night and this moring, but then it went to sleep
[15:07] <elliot_> It worked on windows should I try another media player like VLC
[15:07] <Gnea> Alexia_Death: did you try rebooting?
[15:07] <Alexia_Death> Gnea: after sleep it woke up messed..
[15:07] <AbhiJit> elliot_, no
[15:07] <Alexia_Death> Gnea: yes I did.
[15:07] <AbhiJit> elliot_, you need to install required codecs which plays encrypted dvd
[15:07] <Martin__1> Hi, I think I managed to mix up one of my packages - its configuration file is empty and there is no script for it in /etc/init.d/. I don't want the package anymore. Everything I do something with aptitude I get this error. How do I solve it? http://pastebin.com/JP47PZgj
[15:07] <Alexia_Death> Gnea: IT worked after rebut for a little bit then, stoped when load completed.
[15:07] <Gnea> Alexia_Death: how about a full power off, unplug power cord, drain flea power, plug the power cord back in, turn it on again?
[15:07] <elliot_> Which codecs are they?
[15:07] <Martin__1> Alexia_Death: Are you talking about network problems in Kubuntu?
[15:08] <queso> bastid_raZor: ty
[15:08] <Alexia_Death> Gnea: Thats not going to help. I know my hardware. Its not a hardware issue. Its a messed up configuration issue.
[15:08] <elliot_> Can I get them from the software center
[15:08] <Gnea> Alexia_Death: if you haven't done it, then I can't suggest any further.
[15:08] <Alexia_Death> Martin__1: no, an input isse
[15:09] <bastid_raZor> ubottu: tell elliot_ about dvd
[15:09] <AbhiJit> elliot_, have a look in that links given by ubottu
[15:09] <Alexia_Death> Gnea: I dont want to reboot because I dont know how to bring wifi up from command line:P
[15:09] <Alexia_Death> I might not be able to get back online:P
[15:09] <Gnea> Alexia_Death: you shouldn't need to, wifi should work just fine.
[15:09] <Gnea> it works fine here, I just turn it on and it goes
[15:09] <Alexia_Death> Gnea: This accespoint is not configured for autoconnect:P
[15:10] <HoNgOuRu> hi
[15:10] <Gnea> Alexia_Death: so how do you get wifi to work then?
[15:10] <Kyle__> I have an error where pulse audio isn't starting, repeatedly complaining  main.c: Module load failed. pulseaudio[16625]: module-console-kit.c: GetSessionsForUnixUser() call failed: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Spawn.ExecFailed: Failed to execute program /lib/dbus-1.0/dbus-daemon-launch-helper:
[15:10] <Alexia_Death> Connect fast, before the load completes while the clicking still works.
[15:10] <Kyle__> On Ubuntu 10.04, witn NFS homes
[15:10] <HoNgOuRu> what's the name for the task bar where open applications are docked there?
[15:10] <HoNgOuRu> I've lost it
[15:11] <Gnea> Alexia_Death: ah, well good luck with that, I've got an appointment to get to.
[15:11] <Alexia_Death> Gnea: Can you tell me where user configuration of the mouse setings resides?
[15:11] <HoNgOuRu> not the one containing the menu places and system
[15:11] <elliot_> I intalled sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh
[15:11] <elliot_> But it says I might not have permission
[15:11] <Gnea> Alexia_Death: #kubuntu might be able to, although I don't recall kde having such a place
[15:11] <bastid_raZor> HoNgOuRu: "window list"
[15:11] <Alexia_Death> Gnea: I belive config from gconf is doing this.
[15:12] <Alexia_Death> Gnea: Ive had a similar problem before. Then the whole touchpad was disabled.
[15:12] <Gnea> Alexia_Death: doubtful, but possible. anyways, good luck, got to go.
[15:12] <Alexia_Death> Thanks for trying to help
[15:13] <Alexia_Death> Anybody knows what I need to delete to reset my mouse settings?
[15:13] <Alexia_Death> What configuration files hold this?
[15:13] <Kyle__> Pulse audio problems on NFS homes?
[15:13] <eMyller[prob]> hallo; i've accidentally rm -r'ed /boot/grub and i can't get grub back...
[15:13] <eMyller[prob]> i'm running on a live cd now.
[15:14] <HoNgOuRu> batid_razor
[15:14] <Alexia_Death> eMyller[prob]: chroot and reinstall grub?
[15:14] <HoNgOuRu> thanks a lot
[15:14] <exerainer> #xubuntu
[15:14] <eMyller[prob]> i've been trying grub-setup, but it gives me segmentation fault
[15:15] <Alexia_Death> eMyller[prob]: AFAIK that only sets up boot sector.
[15:15] <eMyller[prob]> Alexia_Death: oh, chroot. it's been quite a long time it doesnt happen, i forgot about it. thanks, will try
[15:15] <bastid_raZor> HoNgOuRu: you're welcome
[15:16] <HoNgOuRu> :)
[15:16] <codeshepherd> how do i enable log for cron ?
[15:16] <HoNgOuRu> why the 64 bits version of ubuntu is not recommended for daily desktop use?
[15:16] <HoNgOuRu> I read it on their site
[15:17] <Braber01> Hi the other day I just disabled gdm or what ever and now I'm getting a msg during loging saying I should check my bios, is this normal?
[15:18] <Braber01> if not how would I do that?
[15:18] <AbhiJit> hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
[15:18] <bastid_raZor> HoNgOuRu: poor wording? possibly flash/java issues .. honestly i'm not entirely sure why the state that. 64bit works fine for the majority
[15:18] <AbhiJit> HoNgOuRu, 64 iiss recommended. that web site is not updated
[15:18] <AbhiJit> !64 | HoNgOuRu
[15:18] <bobstro> HoNgOuRu:  it's fine these days.
[15:18] <Alexia_Death> Aaand it stoped working...
[15:19] <bobstro> HoNgOuRu:  there were problems with flash and so on in older versions.
[15:19] <st__> bastid_raZor, nope, the lack of drivers
[15:19] <AbhiJit> but not now
[15:19] <bobstro> HoNgOuRu:  whether or not it will actually make a difference is another question. do you have lots of RAM?
[15:19] <st__> when installing, I said my system would be "C", how to undo it now?
[15:19] <Alexia_Death> I murded anything under gconf so thats not it, but it happens in the final phase of the load. KDM is fine
[15:19] <HoNgOuRu> Abhijit but it it ubuntu.com....
[15:20] <HoNgOuRu> 4 GB
[15:20] <AbhiJit> HoNgOuRu, tomorow you will say that its ubuntu. how it can have buts? poing is 64 bit is recommened use it
[15:20] <AbhiJit> bug*
[15:20] <HoNgOuRu> me 2
[15:20]  * iluminameluna quit
[15:21] <iluminameluna> gah
[15:21] <iluminameluna> how do I quit chat?
[15:21] <root__> Slackware  is good?
[15:21] <iluminameluna> I'm falling asleep ...
[15:21] <HoNgOuRu> I already use it, the only thing I have to complain about is that 2 devices don't work with the 64 bits version, a usb wifi adapter, and a webcam
[15:21] <bobstro> so sayeth root
[15:21] <AbhiJit> iluminameluna, /close /part #ubuntu
[15:21] <iluminameluna> been awake since yesterday trying to fix my desktop
[15:21] <AbhiJit> any one of them
[15:21] <iluminameluna> k, thanks
[15:22] <bobstro> HoNgOuRu:  did those work with 32 bit?
[15:22] <AbhiJit> HoNgOuRu, you can submit a bug for them requesting for drivers you ssee if linuxdriver.org has it already
[15:22] <AbhiJit> HoNgOuRu, http://www.linux-drivers.org/
[15:22] <HoNgOuRu> I will check that site
[15:22] <HoNgOuRu> thanks
[15:23] <Kyle__> On ubuntu 10.04 my lab machines (50 of them) never finish loading pulse-audio.  In the background they loop over and over with main.c Module load failed.  and module-console-kit.c: GetSessionsForUnixUser() call failed: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Spawn.ExecFailed: Failed to execute program /lib/dbus-1.0/dbus-daemon-launch-helper: Success
[15:24] <sniperjo> for some reason when i use iwconfig wlan1 chanel 52 ( a 5ghz freq) i get an error "Invalid Argument", but when i use 1 - 12 it works
[15:24] <ayush> whats the difference between aptitude and apt-get?
[15:25] <avelldiroll> Kyle__: do you know what is your audio chipset on these machines ? (lspci may help)
[15:25] <st__> ayush, they are different frontends to wget/dpkg
[15:25] <c3l> ayush: some say aptitude is more robust. apt-get easier to use. both do basically the same thing, but im no expert on those
[15:25] <Kyle__> avelldiroll: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) AC'97 Audio Controller
[15:26] <Kyle__> avelldiroll: That's a pretty standard supported chipset iirc.
[15:26] <AbhiJit> !apt-get > ayan
[15:26] <AbhiJit> :(
[15:26] <AbhiJit> !apt-get > ayush
[15:26] <nullwire> bob: fds
[15:26] <AbhiJit> !aptitude > ayush
[15:28] <queso> I'd like to use wget instead of my browser to download ubuntu server edition. Where's the actual location of the file? I can't find it on the download page.
[15:28] <rafael_> Good morning
[15:28] <avelldiroll> Kyle__: There are a few reported bug on the launchpad concerning this chipset though ...
[15:28] <denverdave> greetings.. am looking into running lucid at home but need windows for some games.. so looking at virtualization.. virtualbox seems best but are there any guides to taking a running XP ssystem and migrating to virtual box?
[15:28] <rafael_> I need help
[15:28] <AbhiJit> rafael_, hello rafael_ ask your question to channel in one line with details
[15:28] <st__> denverdave, games in virtualbox? LOL
[15:29] <AbhiJit> queso, may be try in asking in #ubuntu-server
[15:29] <bobstro> denverdave:  dual boot might be better. games don't do well virtualized.
[15:29] <Kyle__> denverdave: It's far easier to just make a new VM running XP...but there are instructinos.  Look over at the virtualbox webpage, or even at the p2v utility you can get from VMWare's website.
[15:29] <Kyle__> st__: If you have virtualization extensions, it works fine.
[15:29] <st__> Kyle__, lol it's not
[15:29] <rafael_> After upgrading ubuntu, I reboot it and now it goes directly to the command line of grub. It show only the prompt grub> .
[15:29] <queso> AbhiJit: oh, I found it, thanks . . http://releases.ubuntu.com/lucid/
[15:29] <edbian> denverdave, You want to make Ubuntu the host and virtualize your current xp install?  Perhaps it's just easier to dual boot.  (although you woudln't be able to run both at once you wouldn't be taking a performance hit.
[15:30] <AbhiJit> queso, hmm
[15:30] <Kyle__> Whatever kid.
[15:30] <AbhiJit> rafael_, did you upgrade from 9.10 to 10.04??
[15:30] <st__> when installing, I said my system would be "C", how to undo it now?
[15:30] <denverdave> bobstro: let me define games: poker clients and possible poker database software lol
[15:31] <edbian> st__, Do you mean the hostname?
[15:31] <AbhiJit> !hostname | st__
[15:31] <bobstro> denverdave:  ah, those might be ok then.
[15:31] <edbian> denverdave, You can play poker on linux
[15:31] <denverdave> edbian: wine?
[15:31] <edbian> denverdave, There are poker apps for linux.
[15:32] <edbian> denverdave, I could use wine to run MS office or I could just use open office.  2 apps, some goal.
[15:32] <edbian> same* goal
[15:32] <bobstro> denverdave:  are these proprietary poker apps -- locked to a casino and such?
[15:32] <denverdave> edbian: true.. but I also run a tool called Holdem manager and that is windows based
[15:32] <edbian> denverdave, Then you could try wine.  Or virtualize xp, or dual boot
[15:32] <{Titan}> would ubuntu ever switch to selinux ?
[15:32] <rafael_> AbhiJit, No. I did not. I already was using 10.10 alpha and tried to upgrade to beta.
[15:32] <AbhiJit> rafael_, ask your question in #ubuntu+1 not here
[15:32] <denverdave> edbian: i would like to try to virtualize xp for the practice
[15:33] <bobstro> {Titan}:  ubuntu is using apparmor, no?
[15:33] <{Titan}> bobstro, that much i know
[15:33] <denverdave> I will check out the virtualbox website for how to set up xp..
[15:33] <denverdave> thanks!!!!
[15:34] <bobstro> {Titan}:  they're alternatives to each other, no?
[15:34] <edbian> denverdave, good luck! :)  Have fun
[15:34] <Kyle__> denverdave: If you use p2v (available free on vmwares site), you can import the vmware vm into virtualbox.  That's probably youre most likely success path.  As far as performance goes: without virtualization extensions, office apps, compliation, development, java, etc work well enough.  With the extentions, you get near native speed.
[15:34]  * Kyle__ shrugs
[15:34] <LjL> bobstro: they are quite different though
[15:34] <LjL> {Titan}: anyway i guess the answer is we don't have a crystal ball ;)
[15:34] <bobstro> LjL:  yes. i thought ubuntu was "the chosen alternative".
[15:35] <bobstro> LjL:  rather, apparmor was chosen for ubuntu
[15:35] <bcurtiswx_> hey all, if i plug my headphones into my laptop, the sound still stays with the laptop speakers.  How could I remedy this?
[15:35] <isw> hi, Whats the default text editor for ubuntu command line?
[15:35] <LjL> bobstro: well yes but that doesn't mean it can't be changed in the future, since there are important differences (and SELinux is definitely more powerful). just, i don't think there are any plans to switch at the moment.
[15:35] <bobstro> LjL, {Titan}: is apparmor still under development?
[15:35] <jrib> isw: nano
[15:35] <ConsoleFx> Can I install VMWare in Ubuntu 10? Is it supported? Will it show any problem if I install VMWare in Ubuntu10? Please suggest
[15:35] <isw> jrib: thanks
[15:36] <bobstro> LjL, {Titan}: just noticed wikipedia page says novell laid off team in 2007
[15:36] <cookiemad> What commnd do i use to change from kdm to gdm?
[15:36] <|Alexia_Death|> Hmm, My problem is a bit more specific even. Mouse clicks do happen, but they do not cause focus change. within the coontext of the active window they do work.
[15:36] <look> ConsoleFx: you should try virtual box
[15:36] <skumara> hi
[15:36] <ryan_> I am on thegraceacademy.
[15:36] <look> ConsoleFx: but VMware on Wine might work.
[15:36] <josedown> hello
[15:36] <ConsoleFx> i want to install the linux version of vmware... wine I dont trust every time
[15:37] <ConsoleFx> sometimes it stucks everything
[15:37] <liamsmithuk> rm -rf / do what?????
[15:37] <skumara> if i'm running windows xp in vmware in ubuntu, is it possible for my computer to get infected with windows malware?
[15:37] <bcurtiswx_> ConsoleFx, VirtualBox
[15:37] <josedown> when I try to configure wireless at the CLI it seems that network manager is already 2 steps ahead of me
[15:37] <st__> liamsmithuk, nothing now
[15:37] <edbian> liamsmithuk, It deletes the entire filesystem.  Don't do it
[15:37] <LjL> bobstro: i think someone still mantains it, see https://apparmor.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Main_Page
[15:37] <LjL> !danger | liamsmithuk
[15:37] <ConsoleFx> bcurtiswx_, okie...
[15:37] <liamsmithuk> how to recover???
[15:37] <LjL> !recover | liamsmithuk
[15:37] <edbian> skumara, It is only possible for the xp virtual machine to get spyware but not the linux host
[15:38] <st__> bah the command is invalid without --no...t switch
[15:38] <josedown> I tried rm -rf / and it wouldn't let me :-\
[15:38] <bobstro> josedown:  i'd put a  :) after that. you were lucky.
[15:38] <edbian> josedown, don't do it.  It deletes your entire filesystem.
[15:38] <Kyle__> josedown: If you're not root, it will only delete you're data.
[15:38] <bastid_raZor> josedown: that will break everything. it is retarded to run random commands you see here.
[15:38] <cookiemad> Whats the command to switch from kdm to gdm (both are already installed)?
[15:38] <josedown> bobstro: no it was the last day at my job and I wanted to nuke the lappy
[15:38] <skumara> edbian is it possible to hack my computer through win xp in vmware?
[15:38] <LjL> cookiemad: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[15:38] <llutz> cookiemad: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[15:38] <llutz> argh
[15:38] <bobstro> josedown:  better ways to nuke it if you're trying to cover your tracks!
[15:39] <liamsmithuk> I am secure and run everything as root
[15:39] <st__> edbian, bastid_raZor it doesn't anything for several years now
[15:39] <josedown> bobstro: I ended up removing the partitions
[15:39] <Kyle__> josedown: Go ahead and add a non-privliged user, gomerpile, or something like that, and try it.  It will only remove their home directory, and any files in /tmp that belong to tthem.  If they have a mail spool or crontab it will remove those too, but only theirs.
[15:39] <bobstro> liamsmithuk:  not running as root also protects you from doing foolish things like that!
[15:39] <edbian> skumara, I am not aware of any vulnerabilities.  I suppose that the system might be slightly less secure because there might be a bug in virtual box.  But that assumes they know a bug in xp that lets them get to a bug in virtualbox that lets them get to a bug in Ubuntu
[15:39] <damian_> hi i trying to setup a rdesktop server in gnome. i installed xrdp in gnome but now what. everytime i connect i get a blank screen. i dont know if it is even connecting..
[15:39] <liamsmithuk> echo 1 > /dev/sda what does that do?
[15:40] <josedown> bobstro: I hadn't done anything :-) I was just being cautios in case I'd left personal data on it
[15:40] <bobstro> josedown:  you want to wipe (over-write) the partitions if you're really worried. but that would stop casual attempts, yes.
[15:40] <LjL> !ops | liamsmithuk keeps on posting destructive commands
[15:40] <st__> could you stop discussing trolls and do some support for a change???
[15:40] <bobstro> josedown:  i wipe my laptops when we turn them in after lease too. it's a good idea.
[15:40] <bastid_raZor> st__: what are you talking about?
[15:40] <Kyle__> liamsmithuk: it will attempt to replace the contents of /dev/sda with "1".  It may not let you though.  Hope it doesn't.
[15:40] <st__> bastid_raZor, ??
[15:40] <skumara> edbian unlikely to hack, but teoritically possible.
[15:40] <HoNgOuRu> folks, now it works
[15:40] <josedown> so I am having trouble with CLI networking on my ubuntu laptop
[15:41] <Kyle__> LjL: Sorry, I thought he was really asking, because he didn't know.
[15:41] <josedown> iwlist wlan0 scanning shows me an essid
[15:41] <bastid_raZor> st__: if you're going to highlight me, please form a complete sentence.
[15:41] <HoNgOuRu> I didn't tried it after the global update I did last week, the webcam that didn't work now does
[15:41] <josedown> I join to it with iwconfig wlan0 essid <blah>
[15:41] <damian_> anyone run linux on their android device via chroot and vnc? i am having problems mounting my ubuntu image and need a little help
[15:41] <edbian> skumara, All in all you're generally quite safe.  Linux has 0 known vulnerabilities right now
[15:41] <josedown> and it doesn't work (always?)
[15:41] <c3l> josedown: what is the difference between cli networking and 'normal' networking?
[15:41] <LjL> Kyle__: i doubt it, not after he asked about the rm one. but no harm in explaining what it does anyway.
[15:41] <josedown> it seems I need to do iwconfig wlan0 essid up
[15:42] <josedown> c31: I let network-manager do it and that shit fires right up
[15:42] <st__> when installing, I said my system would be "C", how to undo it now?
[15:42] <josedown> c3l: network-manager = not CLI
[15:42] <juk> damian_: where did you get the image?
[15:42] <Kyle__> LjL: I'm so used to hearing questions like that when proffs teach "beginning sysadmin" courses in my lab, I tend not to notice when they're being jackasses :)
[15:42] <bastid_raZor> st__: what does that mean? you named the box C as in the hostname? please be less vague
[15:43] <st__> bastid_raZor, no I said the locale will be C
[15:43] <Kyle__> bastid_raZor: Maybe he means class C network?  but I just don't know.
[15:43] <damian_> it is the one in the bottom of the first post here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=759376
[15:43] <josedown> is there a distro for the MSI l2300 ?
[15:43] <st__> now I have no idea how to set it to something useful
[15:44] <josedown> I am being lazy, I should just look misself
[15:44] <bastid_raZor> ubottu: tell st__ about locale
[15:44] <Kyle__> damian_: I've got one of those phonesn too, but I honestly was waiting till there's a nice solid 2.2 distro to root it... why are you putting 'buntu on it anyway?
[15:44] <st__> wtf that article expired in april 2008
[15:45] <Kyle__> st__: I could say the same thing about my old calc textbook.  It's still valid info though.
[15:45] <damian_> bit of fun.  because i can. lol. once i can get the damn thing to run i am going to write some xserver drivers so i can run it natively on my device.
[15:45] <wxl> hello everyone!
[15:45] <edbian> wxl, Hello
[15:46] <Kyle__> damian_: Neat :) I like those reasons.
[15:46] <st__> the package described there was removed in Intrepid
[15:46] <Kyle__> damian_: So you'd still be running android...just ubuntu on top of it... humm.
[15:46] <IdleOne> !hi
[15:47] <damian_> for now its native with video output via vnc or rdesktop.
[15:47] <damian_> yes
[15:47] <juk> damian_: i dont see image there
[15:47] <cordoval> does anyone knows how to install daemontools but only within user space on a shared hosting account (http://cr.yp.to/daemontools.html)
[15:47] <JediMaster> I need to setup a user fairly quickly with sftp access but I'd rather they were chrooted to their home dir, is there a quick way of setting it up?
[15:47] <damian_> i am using the command "mount -o loop,noatime /sdcard/ubuntu/ubuntu.img /data/local/mnt"  which outputs "mount: mounting ubuntu.img on /data/local/mnt failed: Block device required" if anyone can help me
[15:48] <JediMaster> I've done it on ubuntu 10.04 before but it was fairly time consuming to set up
[15:48] <Kyle__> damian_: Try -o loop=loop1,noatime
[15:48] <cordoval> JediMaster: are you responding to me?
[15:48] <bastid_raZor> st__: what's the output of locale
[15:48] <Kyle__> damian_: Some versions of mount/kernels/tools require you to specify which loopback to use.
[15:48] <JediMaster> cordoval, no, I was adding a second sentance to my first
[15:48] <Kyle__> damian_: Also, check to see howmany it has by default, and see if any are unused.
[15:49] <cordoval> I am trying to install http://cr.yp.to/daemontools.html but in user space, that is not as root, has anyone done this?
[15:49] <st__> bastid_raZor, "C" except for LC_ALL which is empty
[15:49] <Kyle__> damian_: It's possible that android only creates a handful, and uses all of them.  (sorry for the multiple lines, typing as I think).
[15:49] <JediMaster> cordoval daemontools as in the *windows* program?
[15:49] <cordoval> JediMaster: daemontools as here http://cr.yp.to/daemontools.html
[15:50] <damian_> ahhh of course. brb il modify my script and see how i go.
[15:50] <Karen_m> how is Ubuntu even working on Maverick if they do not have the sound issues fixed in Lucid?  A reboot will knock out the sound, a few reboots later it will be back.  Nothing changes in terms of hardware, just something whacky *somewhere8
[15:50] <JediMaster> oh that daemontools
[15:50] <JediMaster> lol
[15:51] <damian_> out of curiosity what phone do you have?
[15:51] <cordoval> JediMaster: I have a nice setup with dropbox in shared hosting, and if I can do this, then I can keep the dropbox daemon running all the time, usually in a shared hosting account it drops after sometime
[15:51] <JediMaster> Karen_m no problems with sound in Lucid for me, it's more likely to be the driver for your particular hardware that's causing issues
[15:52] <cordoval> it would be great for people who develop sites and have a server running on local and a server running on the live server within the shared hosting account
[15:52] <cordoval> filezilla will not be needed after this step is completed
[15:52] <bobstro> cordoval:  you could write a cron job to check on it periodically if you can't run daemontools
[15:52] <sniperjo> for some reason when i try and set my wifi channel to anything over 14 i get an error "invalid argument"
[15:52] <dajhorn> cordoval: It is almost always better to use the @reboot cron job.
[15:52] <wxl> Is there any way you can quickly learn Linux system,I am a beginner
[15:53] <edbian> sniperjo, There are only 11 channels of wifi
[15:53] <bobstro> sniperjo:  you're in US?
[15:53] <popey> sniperjo: thats not surprising is it, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_WLAN_channels
[15:53] <juk> bobstro: im not getting it, just installed openssh-server, why there's only ssh in /etc/init.d ???
[15:53] <edbian> wxl, That's like asking "is there anyway I can quickly learn to play the violin"
[15:53] <cordoval> @reboot cron job.! hmmm
[15:54] <sniperjo> popey: so for example if you went down the page a bit and it said chanel 36 was at 5190 mhz that would be weird right
[15:54] <bobstro> juk:  that will launch the server (daemon). the client isn't launched via init.
[15:54] <sniperjo> bobstro: no EU
[15:54] <cordoval> that is actually good but how often can I check, this seems to fall very quickly
[15:54] <cordoval> sometimes
[15:54] <bobstro> cordoval:  just set a job to launch every few minutes, check for presence of dropbox running instance.
[15:55] <dajhorn> cordoval: The @reboot thingy is described in the `man 5 crontab` page.   Note that @reboot is a linux-ism that isn't always available on other unix systems.
[15:55] <cordoval> all: note that the daemon dropboxd is installed on a shared hosting account, I have no root privileges
[15:55] <edbian> sniperjo, What?  wifi runs at 2.4 Ghz and there are only 11 channels.  What the heck are you running?
[15:55] <AnthIste> I want to compile an SDL program at varsity but they do not have SDL_image and the like installed, is there a way to compile with the libraries and headers inside my project directory?
[15:55] <juk> bobstro: something's wron, i remeber it should be /etc/init.d/sshd
[15:55] <bobstro> sniperjo:  asking because not all channels are legal in all locations.
[15:55] <bobstro> juk:  it's just /etc/init.d/ssh on my 10.04 workstation box
[15:56] <cordoval> great, so I guess you are right, it is better to use cron job
[15:56] <cordoval> I will report my findings soon
[15:56] <sniperjo> edbian:  wifi runs on about 3 different ranges
[15:56] <juk> bobstro: so you not running ssh server?
[15:56] <bobstro> cordoval:  i don't mean to discourage, but hosting may not allow some things to run, esp. those requiring kernel access.
[15:56] <bobstro> juk:  no, it's server.
[15:56] <adv_> what should i use for partitioning my hd?
[15:56] <cordoval> usually how I run dropboxd is > python2.6 ~/bin/dropboxd.py start
[15:57] <bobstro> juk:  just view that file -- it launches sshd
[15:57] <edbian> sniperjo, Are you talking about 802.11?
[15:57] <bobstro> sniperjo:  802.11 b/g/n? or a?
[15:57] <sniperjo> bobstro: im trying to setup a channel thats legal, but for some reason i am getting an invalid argument error
[15:57] <juk> bobstro: ah, ok, it's changed from last time isn't it?
[15:57] <sniperjo> bobstro: ive got a usb car a/b/g/n
[15:57] <bobstro> sniperjo:  yes, well you're specifying invalid channels by the sound of it
[15:57] <cordoval> when I run the dropboxd daemon it runs and does the job, however after a while it falls for some reason, could be that it is hunted
[15:57] <edbian> sniperjo, Maybe you should read the bit about limitations here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wifi
[15:57] <sniperjo> bobstro: is there a command to list the available chanels ?
[15:58] <dajhorn> cordoval: Which shared host are you using?
[15:58] <bobstro> sniperjo:  that wikipedia article is a good start!
[15:58] <cordoval> however, if I use the cron job perhaps it will restart it over and over
[15:58] <bobstro> cordoval:  not if you check for presence of running instance before launching.
[15:58] <sniperjo> bobstro:  unfortunately there isnt much speak of  ubuntu  in the artical
[15:59] <damian_> i am using the command "mount -o loop,noatime /sdcard/ubuntu/ubuntu.img /data/local/mnt"  which outputs "mount: mounting ubuntu.img on /data/local/mnt failed: Block device required" if anyone can help me
[15:59] <cordoval> bobstro: yes because the python thing is a script which will not run it twice, it will run it if it is down
[15:59] <bobstro> sniperjo:  channel range is limited to 11 (legal) in US, 14 elsewhere. but be aware that not all channels you can set are necessarily legal where you are.
[15:59] <sniperjo> bobstro:  i know my card is can run channel 36 because it will do it fine on a mac
[15:59] <Kyle__> damian_: Damn.  Same issue?
[15:59] <damian_> same problem. i really dont see why
[15:59] <damian_> yeah
[16:00] <dajhorn> damian_:  You need to be root and have read/write to the /dev/loop* devices.  Use `sudo mount ...`
[16:00] <bobstro> sniperjo:  802.11 b/g only has a few. not sure what they mean by 36 on the mac. 802.11 a is 8 channels, irrc.
[16:00] <cordoval> shared hosting used is hostmonster http://bit.ly/ahAb3e pretty standard and good for what I want
[16:00] <Guest26562> fuck off
[16:00] <IdleOne> !language | Guest26562
[16:00] <bobstro> heh
[16:00] <Misterio> Guest26562: Can we help you?
[16:01] <sipior> Guest26562: "/j #tourettes"
[16:01] <sniperjo> bobstro: i have the exact same card plugged into a OSX machine, and it can run channel 36
[16:01] <damian_> well "su" was typed first. i am  doing so as root
[16:01] <Guest26562> helpme
[16:01] <bobstro> cordoval:  not criticizing. i use something similar.
[16:01] <sniperjo> edbian: yeah its 802.11
[16:01] <cordoval> bobstro: something similar? what do you mean?
[16:01] <bobstro> sniperjo:  take a peek at those articles on 802.11. maybe just different conventions?
[16:02] <Guest26562> fuck
[16:02] <sipior> Guest26562: yeah, we'll get right on that.
[16:02] <dajhorn> damian_:  /data/local can't be a CIFS or NFS tree.  The loopback point must be a local file system.  Try /mnt.
[16:02] <BluesKaj> Guest26562, you expect ppl to help . with that attitude ?
[16:02] <Guest26562> what
[16:02] <bobstro> cordoval:  i have a vps server hosted. i can get root, and do most things, but not kernel-level things such as iptables. it's a limitation of the service (and presumably the technology).
[16:02] <st__> Guest26562, we haven't heard the question yet
[16:02] <Guest26562> fuck
[16:02] <IdleOne> Guest26562: Please watch you language or I will ban you
[16:03] <sniperjo> is there a way to list the available wireless channels an interface can use ??
[16:03] <bobstro> Guest26562:  there's another channel for that
[16:03] <techbreak> hey all. anybody help me connecting to the ethernet through terminal #ubuntu 10.04
[16:03] <cordoval> did you already do the cron job command with dropbox? if so please hint me... Oh ok, so I will expplore the cron job which hostmonster do allow and get back here reporting my findings
[16:03] <adv_> what should i use for partitioning my hd?
[16:03] <Guest26562> i dont care
[16:03] <cordoval> it will be good if everyone having a shared hosting account can do the amazing things one can do with dropboxd
[16:03] <AbhiJit> adv_, gparted
[16:03] <bobstro> cordoval:  i used pidof to monitor a server (not dropbox), yes.
[16:03] <adv_>  /part
[16:03] <cordoval> after that one will never need filezilla
[16:03] <dajhorn> sniperjo: Look at the iwlist command.
[16:04] <bobstro> cordoval:  is the service hanging or dying? does it show in ps output?
[16:04] <cordoval> bobstro: does pidof have the same capabilities than dropbox?
[16:04] <cordoval> I sync it with my windows too
[16:04] <Guest26562> shit
[16:04] <bobstro> cordoval:  pidof lets you easily check to see if a program is running.
[16:04] <cordoval> bobstro: when it falls it does not show up on ps
[16:04] <Swistaczek> Hello
[16:05] <dajhorn> sniperjo: sudo iwlist wlan0 channel
[16:05] <Johanness> techbreak: wireless or just ethernet?
[16:05] <bobstro> cordoval:  ok, read up on pidof. you can use it in a script to check whether dropbox is running or not.
[16:05] <Swistaczek> How Could I start app using 'screen' and logg output to file?
[16:05] <mccrase90> hello, my wireless is connecting to my router, but i'm not getting internet through the wireless. it only works when i plug in the ethernet cable. any ideas why this isn't working?
[16:05] <Swistaczek> currently I do screen -S zamek_drzwi -md /opt/kepinska3/start
[16:05] <techbreak> Johanness, wired (eth0)
[16:05] <dajhorn> Swistaczek: Look at the `nohup` command.  It is simpler than screen.
[16:05] <bobstro> cordoval:  does that make sense?
[16:06] <Johanness> techbreak: Did you try dhclient eth0.
[16:06] <techbreak> Johanness, not the wireless... i am getting some weird error when i give commands like "sudo ifup eth0" or "sudo ifdown eth0)
[16:06] <cordoval> bobstro: yes, I will get back to you soon
[16:06] <cordoval> bobstro: thanks a lot for your insight
[16:06] <techbreak> Johanness, no i didnt
[16:06] <beegit> I want to tnstall an app. It says add blah blah line to /etc/apt/sources.list.  What this means?
[16:06] <julianoliver> i would like to write a script for the Gnome Desktop that pops up a window inviting the user to enter arguments. is there a trivial way to do this? I ask before looking into authoring a program in GTK/Python/C.
[16:06] <techbreak> Johanness, shal i tell ya the error that i am getting here?
[16:07] <dajhorn> beegit: The sources.list file has the list of places to look for packages.
[16:07] <Johanness> techbreak: shows ifconfig the nic to be up?
[16:07] <jrib> julianoliver: well you can consider using zenity if you want to write a shell script
[16:07] <Johanness> Techbreak: yes.
[16:07] <sniperjo> dajhorn: nice thanks
[16:07] <cordoval> just found this
[16:07] <dajhorn> sniperjo: Welcome.
[16:08] <techbreak> Johanness, sudo eth0
[16:08] <techbreak>  igonoring unknown einterface eth0=eth0
[16:08] <beegit> when i type it in terminal, it says access denied?
[16:08] <cordoval> [~]# pidof dropbox
[16:08] <cordoval> 5608
[16:08] <cordoval> [~]# ps
[16:08] <cordoval>   PID TTY          TIME CMD
[16:08] <cordoval>  3781 pts/0    00:00:00 bash
[16:08] <cordoval>  7490 pts/0    00:00:00 ps
[16:08] <FloodBot1> cordoval: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:08] <techbreak> Johanness, ifdown: interface eth0 not configured
[16:08] <cordoval> oppsy sorry just learned about flooding
[16:08] <Johanness> techbreak: sudo eth0 is no command, try sudo ifconfig eth0 upinstead.
[16:08] <techbreak> Johanness, do you want the ifconfig output too?
[16:08] <julianoliver> jrib: i'll look into zentity, thanks.
[16:09] <beefncheese> hey
[16:09] <Johanness> Techbreak: if eth0 is listed it is fine i gess
[16:09] <jrib> julianoliver: try "zenity --entry" for a basic preview
[16:09] <beefncheese> can someone help with with making fonts smaller in awesomeWM 3
[16:09] <techbreak> Johanness, yeah it is listed and "lo" too
[16:09] <beefncheese> by using the theme.lua
[16:09] <Bob_Dole> exit
[16:09] <beegit> how to install s/w in /etc/apt/..
[16:09] <jrib> beegit: huh?
[16:10] <VCoolio> beefncheese: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:10] <sniperjo> dajhorn:  ive just used iwlist to see what freq are supported, but if i take the interface down and try and set it to use channel 149, that it says is supported i get an error "Invalid argument"
[16:10] <VCoolio> beegit: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:10] <techbreak> Johanness, okei i ll try that command n get back to you.. brb... i have to disconnect here...
[16:10] <beefncheese> im using awesome window manager
[16:10] <VCoolio> sorry beefncheese
[16:10] <Johanness> techbreak: is there a up also in the second line.
[16:10] <st__> which key is 'Meta' on normal keyboard?
[16:10] <VCoolio> st__: alt
[16:10] <bmwerks> i have a lcd tv connected with hdmi cable....it displays but the output is in b&w
[16:10] <dajhorn> sniperjo: Frequencies above 5GHz are for 802.11a.  Your base station is almost certainly limited to the 2.4 GHz range.
[16:11] <beegit> thanks VCoolio
[16:11] <damian_> ahh this is so confusing
[16:11] <dajhorn> sniperjo: Just because you can see the channel in the list, doesn't mean that you can use it.  Many wifi cards are artificially limited by firmware.
[16:12] <sniperjo> dajhorn: my base station isnt, but im trying to put the device in adhoc mode the command i used is " iwconfig wlan1 mode ad-hoc essid "Name" channel 149
[16:13] <dajhorn> sniperjo: Do you have an 802.11a or 802.11b card?  -- You probably don't.
[16:13] <dajhorn> sniperjo: Not 802.11b, 802.11n instead.
[16:13] <sniperjo> dajhorn: i do, ALFA a / b /g /n usb wifi card
[16:14] <dajhorn> sniperjo: Some 802.11n implementation won't do ad-hoc at full speed.    Ad-hoc might not be in the 802.11n standard.
[16:14] <skumara> i have a file i just created n last session , when i open it say i am not the owner so i cannot make any change! How to change this setting so that i can read and write this file?
[16:15] <jrib> skumara: what does ls -ld say about the file?
[16:15] <dajhorn> sniperjo: You should do a web search for the model of wifi card that you have.  Ad-hoc N might be incompatible with your hardware.
[16:15] <sniperjo> dajhorn: can i just disable N on the card then
[16:16] <skumara> jrib drwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4096 2010-09-28 21:17
[16:16] <dajhorn> sniperjo: Go for it.   The programs that you need are iwlist, iwconfig, and wpa_supplicant.
[16:16] <Kyle__> dajhorn: Um.  I don't know how hardware could be incapable of doing ad-hoc.  Drivers possibly, but not hardware.  At a hardware level it's not any different than managed.
[16:16] <Kyle__> dajhorn: Now, being an AP, _that_ can be hardware dependent.
[16:16] <llutz> skumara: sudo chown <you> foo.dat
[16:16] <jrib> skumara: k, why is the file owned by root?  How did you create it?  Were you using sudo perhaps?
[16:17] <sniperjo> dajhorn: what is wpa_supplicant for ?
 jrib drwxrwxrwx  <- thats a directory
[16:17] <techbreak> Johanness, not done
[16:17] <llutz> skumara: ls -l foo.dat (<- your file)
[16:17] <jrib> llutz: my current hypothesis is that's the home directory
[16:18] <Johanness> techbreak: what do you mean not done/
[16:18] <techbreak> Johanness, didnt work at all... no output for the command "sudo ifconfig eth0 up"
[16:18] <bmwerks> i have a lcd tv connected with hdmi cable....it displays but the output is in b&w
[16:18] <bmwerks> can anyone help?
[16:18] <dajhorn> sniperjo: wpa_supplicant does the authentication and crypto setup.  The Network Manager in Ubuntu doesn't usually handle strange configurations well, so you'll need to do it manually.
[16:18] <techbreak> Johanness, didnt work at all.. i didnt get any output but still the internet did not connect
[16:18] <Kyle__> bmwerks: Dual head card?
[16:18] <llutz> jrib: +1 ;)
[16:18] <juk> how do scp file?
[16:19] <jrib> juk: what?
[16:19] <kwtm> I know how to scp.
[16:19] <llutz> juk: man scp (scp file user@host:target)
[16:19] <juk> jrib: Im doing: scp ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub server.example.org
[16:19] <kwtm> WHat's the situation?  You want to send a file to a different computer on your home network?
[16:19] <llutz> juk: use ssh-copy-id
[16:19] <juk> jrib: but it appear right in home dir
[16:19] <happydude> why is there always these complicated to fix little issues with linux all the time. Why is linux such total shit?
[16:19] <jrib> skumara: you still with us?
[16:20] <jrib> happydude: this channel is for specific support questions about ubuntu only
[16:20] <juk> jrib: actually Im doing: scp ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub me@192.168.1.100
[16:20] <kwtm> happydude: That's because, although Ubuntu is riddled with errors, they are easily fixed by the devs who don't realize that it is very complicated for ordinary users.
[16:20] <juk> jrib: but it appear right in home dir
[16:20] <jrib> juk: see llutz's suggestion
[16:20] <skumara> jrib sorry my mistake. i used storage device manager to mount the partition as read-only mode. I solved the problem already. sorry
[16:20] <jrib> skumara: ok
[16:21] <kwtm> juk: So your problem is that your file does go to 192.168.1.100 but it shows up in the wrong directory?
[16:21] <llutz> juk: scp ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub me@192.168.1.100:~        but better use ssh-copy-id for this (has a man-page too)
[16:21] <dajhorn> juk: Use the `ssh-copy-id` program instead of trying to install your SSH identity manually.
[16:22] <sniperjo> dajhorn: iwconfig feq 5.24 should set the card to that freq? but if i iwlist then it shows there has been no change to the freq
[16:22] <happydude> how do I turn off ALL logging in ubuntu. IE. kill /var/log without breaking apps?
[16:22] <kwtm> scp -P $OTHER_MACHINE_PORT ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub ${OTHER_MACHINE}:/path/to/directory/.authorized_keys2 (or whatever the filename is)
[16:22] <kwtm> happydude: Hey, are you having problems with logs, too?
[16:22] <jrib> kwtm: no '2' but you have to be careful about overwriting existing keys when you do it that way
[16:22] <dajhorn> sniperjo: Google this.  Many people are reporting that 802.11n won't do adhoc.  You might need to hack the firmware or use different hardware.
[16:22] <happydude> kwtm, awsome!
[16:23] <llutz> kwtm: don't suggest that
[16:23] <Kyle__> happydude: Either turn off rsyslogd (/etc/init.d/rsyslogd stop), or edit the rsyslogd config to use /dev/null for all log files.
[16:23] <Kyle__> kwtm: What type of log problems are folks having?
[16:23] <kwtm> Question: How do I figure out why my root volume keeps shrinking in available space?  How do I find out what's taking up the space?  E.g. I suspect log files...
[16:23] <happydude> Kyle__,  permanently or do people have to write that on every bootup?
[16:24] <llutz> kwtm: use du and sort
[16:24] <Guest61129> nabeel
[16:24] <Kyle__> happydude: If, on the other hand, you're using an SSD, use a tmpfs mount for /var/log :) that way you keep logs for your session, and they don't get written to the drive
[16:24] <kwtm> jrib: I use 2 on mine.  I'm quoting from my installation script (well, I've replaced some directory names...)
[16:24] <happydude> Kyle__, how do I use tmpfs for logs
[16:24] <Shwaiil> hi ppl
[16:24] <juk> jrib: llutz: dajhorn: kwtm : thanks all!
[16:25] <drmacro> how does one tell which 64 bit or 32 bit is loaded?
[16:25] <jrib> drmacro: uname -m
[16:25] <llutz> drmacro: uname -a
[16:25] <kwtm> llutz: I'm actually looking for what has changed, but you have a good idea --maybe I'll just do a nightly du | sort and then do a comparison...
[16:25] <Shwaiil> Q: On the right bottom corner there's the multiple desktop thing, I dont know how to use it. I'm new to ubuntu. Whats the right keyworks, so I can read, find smoething trough googling ? Thanks
[16:25] <connie> cxp
[16:25] <Kyle__> happydude: More or less edit /etc/fstab and mount tmpfs at /var/log, but I don't have my laptop here to use as an example.  Google for ubuntu ssd tmpfs.  That should pull up some articles that detail it.
[16:25] <cxp> |"
[16:25] <sniperjo> dajhorn: according to the website it works ad-hoc
[16:26] <cordoval> http://paste.ubuntu.com/502164/
[16:26] <cxp> oldili txt warez olwi oicoi!|
[16:26] <sniperjo> dajhorn: at 5.8 ghz
[16:26] <sniperjo> ]
[16:26] <cxp> up7vu iopvcx ,.ds +
[16:26] <cxp> upiru iovpcx !
[16:26] <llutz> cxp: stop!
[16:26] <dajhorn> sniperjo: YMMV.
[16:26] <cordoval> so I use pidof within a script to check whether dropbox is running or not
[16:26] <cxp> admin account root shell (c)
[16:26] <drmacro> jrib: i686 is 64bit?
[16:26] <llutz> drmacro: 32
[16:26] <cordoval> and then cron job to run it in case it is not running
[16:26] <cordoval> got the idea I think
[16:26] <cordoval> I will check cron job
[16:26] <drmacro> llutz: thanks
[16:27] <jpds> drmacro: lshw -C processor
[16:27] <jpds> drmacro: And then look for 'width'.
[16:28] <sniperjo> dajhorn: why does nothing ever work properly
[16:28] <drmacro> jpds: that tells me what the cpu is, but not what ubuntu is actually running, correct?
[16:29] <dajhorn> sniperjo: Because you're doing something that almost nobody ever does, so nobody tests it.
[16:29] <jpds> drmacro: What the CPU is capable of. uname -a will tell you what's running.
[16:29] <juk> bobstro: so I did set on each machine rsa authrized_key and still able to login with 12345, and escalate to root as well
[16:30] <drmacro> jpds: thanks
[16:31] <juk> bobstro: on both machines, but this is, because they authorized right? anyone from outside, can't do it now right?
[16:31] <fadll> hi
[16:32] <sniperjo> dajhorn: it gives me an error when i use channel, but if i put the appropriate freq its fine, it just ignores the command
[16:32] <cxp> |linux
[16:32] <bbla> 没人说话
[16:32] <dajhorn> sniperjo: Bottom line:  Your hardware/firmware combination won't run on this frequency.
[16:32] <juk> !zh-CN | bbla
[16:32] <yllr> 刚来看看
[16:32] <juk> !zh | bbla
[16:33] <Kyle__> On the upside, irssi does render all the UTF glyphs properly :)
[16:33] <sniperjo> dajhorn: Manufacturer says it will on the site!!
[16:33] <Shwaiil> Q: "By default, four workspaces are available. You can switch between them with the Workspace Switcher applet at the right of the bottom panel.", I'm clicking hover it, it doesnt work ?!
[16:33] <yllr> #ubuntu-cn
[16:34] <dajhorn> sniperjo: Doesn't matter.  If you want to learn more, then go look at the blob loader in the kernel sources.  You may be artificially restricted according to your locale.
[16:34] <st__> how to set LANG and LANGUAGE environment variables?
[16:34] <juk> yllr: /join #ubuntu-cn
[16:34] <sniperjo> dajhorn: hmmm a blob loader, sounds ..... intresting...
[16:34] <yllr> thanks
[16:34] <Shwaiil> Q: "
[16:34] <cordoval> what does it mean @reboot? just at reboot? or is a command in particular?
[16:34] <Shwaiil>           Press Ctrl+Alt+right arrow to switch to the workspace on the right of the current
[16:34] <Shwaiil> workspace.
[16:34] <Shwaiil>         " , it doesnt work too ?!
[16:34] <FloodBot1> Shwaiil: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:35] <Aioros> Does anybody know if it's difficult to create one. Deb for ubuntu from the source? I need to create a package php-eaccelerator for ubuntu and the site provides the source.
[16:35] <dajhorn> sniperjo: For example,  the wifi code has a conditional that basically says,  "if this guy is in North America, disable channel 15".
[16:35] <undecim> How does pulseaudio work if two people are logged in and one person changes their volume?
[16:36] <sniperjo> dajhorn: how would go about finding out ?
[16:36] <dajhorn> sniperjo: Read the source code.  I don't remember the exact location.
[16:38] <sniperjo> dajhorn: hate to be a pain but err.... what source code are we talking about in particular ?
[16:38] <dajhorn> sniperjo: I did this once because I wanted to trunk two DD-WRT devices on an upper channel.  Changing the channel restrictions is mostly pointless, however, unless both sides get the same change.
[16:38] <dajhorn> sniperjo: Kernel source code and the firmware helper.
[16:38] <alaing> I want to create a folder to ftp things into whats the best why of doing this?
[16:38] <alaing> why=way
[16:39] <nucleus> someone that know how can customize my gnome-terminal like this? http://i.imgur.com/u2cO1l.jpg
[16:39] <sniperjo> dajhorn:  although what i am trying todo is fairly complicated, i am actually fairly .... un knowledgeable on the whole linux subject
[16:39] <RoguishRavager> nucleus: it's just transparency i think
[16:40] <RoguishRavager> you can do that with Edit>Profile preferences
[16:40] <cordoval> where do i find the crontab file  of my current user?
[16:40] <dajhorn> sniperjo: Do you know how to recompile your kernel?  -- If not, then you're probably sunk.
[16:40] <Pici> cordoval: crontab -e
[16:40] <cordoval> thanks
[16:40] <sniperjo> dajhorn: Blop
[16:41] <cordoval> command not found, however I can do man cron
[16:41] <alaing> I want to create a folder to ftp things into whats the best way of doing this? Ideally it would be /vars/www
[16:41] <nucleus> RoguishRavager: i know that is transparency but this "nucleus@nucleus-Desktop:~$" looks much better in the terminal in archbang....
[16:41] <cordoval> wonder if it is in a different shell or i just have to add it to the path
[16:42] <prince_jammys> cordoval: something is borked if 'crontab' gives 'command not found'
[16:42] <andreiutz> Hi ! I want to change my wireless int mac address but when I do that, after turning up the interface I can't connect to my access point. I have ubuntu 10.04. Can someone help ?
[16:42] <cordoval> I am in a shared hosting account, pretty sure I can do cron, however it is not found, what is borked? where should I look? I know I can do cron jobs from the cpanel
[16:42] <cordoval> and I have ssh access
[16:42] <RoguishRavager> nucleus: it's hard to tell what you're talking about - the image is pretty small
[16:43] <Pici> cordoval: Is this Ubuntu?
[16:43] <aeon-ltd> andreiutz: sounds like your router does mac address filtering
[16:43] <cordoval> Linux host248.hostmonster.com 2.6.28-10.45.intel.E1000E.BHsmp #1 SMP Tue Sep 21 18:34:05 MDT 2010 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[16:43] <The_Ace> cordoval,  if you have ssh access run : crontab -e
[16:44] <chris122380_> #docky
[16:44] <Pici> cordoval: What does lsb_release -a say?
[16:44] <cordoval> can you do which crontab  and send me the place where the executable is?
[16:44] <prince_jammys> it's in /usr/bin
[16:44] <cordoval> lsb_release -a returns nothing
[16:45] <Pici> cordoval: cat /etc/issue
[16:45] <andreiutz> aeon-ltd, thanks i'll check in a minute
[16:45] <beegit> how to change directory to root?
[16:45] <prince_jammys> see what /etc/apt/sources.list says.
[16:45] <aeon-ltd> beegit: cd /
[16:46] <aeon-ltd> beegit: why? why not just go striaght to the foler you needed to go to?
[16:46] <maxoudela> Hello i have a problem with mencoder when i try to convert a .mkv file to a .avi file, it says "  Cannot set LAME options, check bitrate/samplerate, some very low bitrates".. Can somebody help me?
[16:46] <beegit> nah I am installing
[16:46] <Dreaman> добър вечер :)
[16:46] <vuln> Something really weird just happened to me. I was working and wanted to restart my computer. Now, I'm stuck at the logon part and it just restarts regardless of how many times I log myself in. It says there was an install problem with the GNOME Power Management.
[16:46] <giovanni> hi!
[16:46] <vuln> WTH is that?
[16:46] <giovanni> i need to join the italian channel, anyoe can help_
[16:47] <eigentor> hm how can it be that mod_rewrite is enabled - according to php.ini but my web app still cannot use it
[16:47] <aeon-ltd> !ru | Dreaman
[16:47] <prince_jammys> giovanni: /join #ubuntu-it
[16:47] <damian_-_> im trying to install ubuntu within eclair using chroot and a vnc server. im stuck using the command "mount -o loop,noatime /sdcard/ubuntu/ubuntu.img /data/local/mnt"  which outputs "mount: mounting ubuntu.img on /data/local/mnt failed: Block device required" if anyone can help me
[16:47] <aeon-ltd> !it | giovanni
[16:47] <nucleus> RoguishRavager: yes i know, sorry about that... but that i want to customize is this in my terminal "nucleus@nucleus-Desktop:~$"
[16:47] <cordoval> getting in touch with support, will know where cron command is in a minute
[16:47] <damian_-_> eclair android that is
[16:47] <cordoval> none of the other things returned successfully
[16:47] <Dreaman> aeon-ltd bulgarian russin is sucks
[16:47] <vuln> Something really weird just happened to me. I was working and wanted to restart my computer. Now, I'm stuck at the logon part and it just restarts regardless of how many times I log myself in. It says there was an install problem with the GNOME Power Management. What happened? I haven't installed nothing lately.
[16:47] <aeon-ltd> Dreaman: sorry
[16:48] <beegit> My terminal is showing "unable to lock list directory" when I apt-get update
[16:48] <Dreaman> cirilic is bulgarian alphabet
[16:48] <Dreaman> not russian
[16:48] <glebihan> beegit: do you use sudo to run the command ?
[16:48] <ppq> beegit, 'sudo apt-get update'
[16:48] <Shwaiil> Q: With compiz effects, there's no Workspace switcher available. this is a bug
[16:49] <alaing> what is apaches web servers channel?
[16:49] <Pici> alaing: #httpd
[16:49] <alaing> thanks pici
[16:49] <vuln> Something really weird just happened to me. I was working and wanted to restart my computer. Now, I'm stuck at the logon part and it just restarts regardless of how many times I log myself in. It says there was an install problem with the GNOME Power Management default configuration.. What happened? I haven't installed nothing lately. How can I fix it?
[16:49] <juk> maxoudela: http://www.howforge.com/how-to-convert-mkv-to-avi-using-mencoder
[16:50] <juk> !lame
[16:51] <adalal> hey, i was wondering if there is a way to get x server to run one specific program without starting up gnome
[16:51] <vuln> there is a way to UNDO the last update[s]?
[16:51] <glebihan> adalal: startx command
[16:51] <spaceduck> hey all
[16:51] <aeon-ltd> vuln: not sure if theres a easy way but look at downgrading
[16:51] <aeon-ltd> !downgrade
[16:51] <aeon-ltd> !downgrading
[16:52] <adalal> glebihan: thanks, but after i start x, how do i get, say a java program, to run?
[16:52] <vuln> aeon-ltd: :(
[16:52] <vuln> Going to other terminals I can see the boot got stuck at the Checking battery state
[16:52] <aeon-ltd> vuln: the only way i know is to uninstall and install outdated packages you need
[16:52] <vuln> Maybe I accidently accepted the auto-update instead of close the window
[16:52] <Dreaman> os[Linux 2.6.35-22-generic x86_64] distro[Ubuntu "lucid" 10.04] cpu[2 x AMD Athlon(tm) 7750 Dual-Core Processor (AuthenticAMD) @ 1.35GHz] mem[Physical: 3.9GB, 87.8% free] disk[Total: 591.0GB, 32.2% free] video[ATI Technologies Inc RV730XT [Radeon HD 4670]] sound[HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia1: HDA-Intel - HDA ATI HDMI]
[16:53] <Dreaman> :P
[16:53] <vuln> aeon-ltd: how do I know the last installed packages?
[16:53] <glebihan> adalal: well if you want to run a specific program, you have to specify the full path to its executable after startx : "startx /usr/bin/gnome-terminal" for gnome-terminal for example
[16:53] <The_Ace> vuln, does this happen if you login as a different user ?
[16:53] <aeon-ltd> vuln: theres a apt log somewhere, ask in the channel if anyone knows
[16:53] <glebihan> adalal: replace /usr/bin/gnome-terminal by the path to your program
[16:54] <beegit> I am getting this error when installing tor --> Reading package lists... Done
[16:54] <beegit> Building dependency tree
[16:54] <beegit> Reading state information... Done
[16:54] <beegit> Package tor is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[16:54] <beegit> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[16:54] <FloodBot1> beegit: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:54] <beegit> is only available from another source
[16:54] <grayson> Does anyone here have a pavilion dv4?
[16:54] <vuln> Does anyone know where I can find the log of the apt-get?
[16:55] <vuln> :(
[16:55] <spaceduck> Does anyone know if there's a way to tell iSCSI not to start in a kickseed file?
[16:55] <ikonia> grayson: jist explain the problem you are having
[16:55] <aeon-ltd> beegit: you need to know 'tor''s real name
[16:55] <dajhorn> beegit: `tor` is removed from the Ubuntu repository.   Use the upstream repository, or remove the tor package.
[16:55] <vuln> I'm at work developing a system. I can't believe just NOW everything messed up
[16:55] <NewUser> Hey people, i need help here... Anyone new here?
[16:55] <aeon-ltd> vuln: if you needed a long term system, you should have chosen LTS
[16:55] <aeon-ltd> !ask | NewUser
[16:56] <grayson> My computer is a pavilion dv4-2049wm. I have tried several fixes to the problem but they generally break one thing and fix something else (I.E. one gets speakers to work but headphones wont, one gets microphone to work but nothing else does, etc.)
[16:56] <vuln> aeon-ltd: what do you mean?
[16:56] <vuln> Ubuntu 10.4 is LTS, isn't it?
[16:56] <aeon-ltd> vuln: yeah
[16:56] <vuln> so?
[16:56] <aeon-ltd> vuln: what is the problem before you start downgrading pkgs?
[16:57] <vuln> aeon-ltd: I don't even know what packages it installed!
[16:57] <funnylookinhat> * 10.04  :)
[16:57] <The_Ace> grayson, whats the sound card in that PC ?
[16:57] <aeon-ltd> vuln: but what is the problem?
[16:57] <spaceduck> anyone?
[16:57] <ross_> hello
[16:58] <IdleOne> Hi ross_
[16:58] <ross_> is this chat for ubuntu
[16:58] <grayson> 1:05.1 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc RS880 Audio Device [Radeon HD 4200]
[16:58] <IdleOne> it is
[16:58] <grayson> I think that that is my HDMI device though
[16:58] <grayson> Which means the real audio device isn't showing up under lspci
[16:58] <vuln> aeon-ltd: The problem is that I turned my computer on and I can't use it
[16:58] <The_Ace> lol
[16:58] <ross_> ok I'm in the wrong place - cheers
[16:58] <aeon-ltd> vuln: more details please
[16:59] <[1]MM> I updated 8.04 (LTS) to 10.4.1 (LTS) and now system can not boot, because it doesn't handle anymore my LVM setup. How I can restore my system with busybox?
[16:59] <andreiutz> aeon-ltd, i checked the router wich has openwrt installed and there is no filtering policy ? what could be some other reason ?
[16:59] <vuln> because I can't go through the logon window. And it keeps saying the instalation of the Gnome Power Management default configs are whatever
[16:59] <aeon-ltd> andreiutz: does the new mac address happen to be the same as another on the network?
[16:59] <glebihan> ross_: yes, just ask your question
[17:00] <dajhorn> [1]MM: At the grub boot menu, choose an older kernel.  Doing the LVM mount at the busybox prompt is difficult.
[17:00] <andreiutz> aeon-ltd, no
[17:00] <[1]MM> dajhorn, I tried, but it didn't helped
[17:01] <om26er> !test
[17:01] <vuln> "Install problem! The configuration defaults for GNOME Power Manager have not been installed correctly."
[17:01] <dajhorn> [1]MM: Do you have custom or otherwise non-standard LVM configuration?   Like EVMS?
[17:01] <vuln> That's the message aeon-ltd
[17:01] <[1]MM> I dunno what is non-std LVM... it uses SATA-disks
[17:01] <aeon-ltd> vuln: does it fall back to command line?
[17:02] <lysy_> yo yo
[17:02] <vuln> aeon-ltd: nope
[17:02] <vuln> It has a weird look like 'safe mode'
[17:02] <aeon-ltd> vuln: ok, is it on now? if so press 'ctrl-alt-f2'
[17:02] <lysy_> #polska
[17:02] <dajhorn> [1]MM:  How did you create the LVM?  Did the alternate Ubuntu installer do it, or did you do it?  Is it inside an MD?  You'll need to provide a lot more information to get help.
[17:02] <vuln> and I type the password, it pretends it's gonna open and then it comes back
[17:02] <vuln> aeon-ltd: I'm running irssi through ctrl-alt-f4 right now :)
[17:02] <bobstro> juk:  sorry, i was away. did you get it working?
[17:02] <Vibedigital> Hi i'm running ubuntu server 10.04 on virtualbox and network is fine samba configured. I can access my www folder ok,but on windows 7 im running html editor nvu when i try to save the page on www it says: "save failed" someone could help?
[17:03] <Sjeban> Hey... Anyone?
[17:03] <vuln> aeon-ltd: but ok, did it. So what now?
[17:03] <aeon-ltd> vuln: ok try in another vt 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[17:03] <[1]MM> dajhorn, I did it with a howto-guide, not with ubuntu-installer
[17:03] <jiffe> I have an ubuntu virtual machine which no longer has some disks so it doesn't want to boot up, is there a way to skip that mounting step?
[17:03] <vuln> did it aeon-ltd
[17:03] <aeon-ltd> vuln: try and start gnome now
[17:04] <vuln> aeon-ltd: samething
[17:04] <Dr_Willis> jiffe:   You have wrong entries in the fstab? ive had to remove theose befor.
[17:04] <dajhorn> [1]MM: You're probably screwed.  Use the Hardy Live CD, and try to regenerate the initrd with the update-initramfs script.  This is somewhat difficult.
[17:04] <jiffe> it still has entries in fstab, I need to boot to clean that up
[17:04] <Dr_Willis> jiffe:  it should give an option to skip the mounting of them as it boots.. or you could try a live cd, and mount/edit the file.
[17:05] <dajhorn> [1]MM: Your data is intact.  Don't worry.
[17:05] <Dr_Willis> jiffe:  or try the single user/rescue mode.. that may let you edit the file
[17:05] <aeon-ltd> vuln: ok, this may change some settings, but you could reinstall ubuntu-desktop (sudo apt-get --reinstall install ubuntu-desktop)
[17:05] <vuln> how long does it take?
[17:05] <jiffe> Dr_Willis: yeah I tried recovery mode that still gets stuck at boot, was hoping there would be a way to do it without a livecd
[17:05] <vuln> aeon-ltd:
[17:06] <aeon-ltd> vuln: not that long
[17:06] <vuln> I will try restarting once again
[17:06] <aeon-ltd> vuln: if that doesn't work, uninstall ubuntu-desktop fully, then install ubuntu-desktop
[17:06] <[1]MM> dajhorn: I must try it tomorrow when I get back to work... but how to mount unworking LVM from SATA-drive to root?
[17:07] <[1]MM> dajhorn: or should I edit grub somehow, because grub begins booting, but stops to kernel panic with busybox?
[17:07] <The_Ace> has Grayson left ?
[17:07] <dajhorn> [1]MM: None of the Ubuntu Live CD environments will mount a non-standard LVM configuration to root.  Use the alternative installer Live CD to get the LVM tools.
[17:07] <nurv> how can i share a mounted hard drive permanently without needing a login and password for samba?
[17:08] <[1]MM> dajhorn, thank you!
[17:08] <Dr_Willis> jiffe:  i recall a way.. but i thouight it asked 'enter password for matintance, or S for skip. or somthing like that'
[17:08] <dajhorn> [1]MM: The grub configuration is probably okay if you declined the grub2 upgrade.
[17:08] <aeon-ltd> The_Ace: yes.
[17:08] <Dr_Willis> nurv:  you can set up samba shares that use the 'guest' account and dont need a password.
[17:09] <Dr_Willis> !samba
[17:09] <dajhorn> [1]MM: Welcome.
[17:09] <woodyjlw> dose anyone know the default driver ubuntu installs for the r300 ait chips?  running with a built in r300 on hp laptop.  ubuntu 10.04
[17:09] <fadll> 中文的发出来
[17:09] <juk_> !cn | fadll
[17:09] <Sjeban> Aaaaaa :(
[17:10] <morenota> Olaaaaa waposs
[17:10] <Sjeban> I need help here
[17:10] <morenota> nononjn alguien k tenga msn pa ablar en privado y conocernos?¿¿?¿
[17:10] <The_Ace> Sjeban, whats the problem ?
[17:10] <morenota> not
[17:11] <Sjeban> My wireless doesn.t work anymore
[17:11] <vuln> aeon-ltd: nothing :(
[17:11] <The_Ace> Sjeban, give details
[17:11] <jiffe> Dr_Willis: yeah I remember it being that way too, apparently its changed
[17:11] <vuln> I tried reinstalling gnome-power-manager
[17:11] <aeon-ltd> vuln: if that doesn't work, uninstall ubuntu-desktop fully, then install ubuntu-desktop
[17:11] <aeon-ltd> vuln: sorry but i have to go now, sorry i could solve it
[17:11] <vuln> Ok.
[17:11] <maco2> vuln: i would *purge* gnome-power-manager
[17:11] <maco2> vuln: remove doesnt remove config files which are your broken bits
[17:12] <neriukas> i have 10.04 ubuntu i i removed ubuntu-desktop i like text view not stupid logo of ubuntu
[17:13] <vuln> maco2: Thank you. I will restart and try it now
[17:13] <alex88> hi, i've tried to unlock keyring on login, edited gdm-autologin and now it says something like "unable to comunicate with the auth server, general fault", any help?
[17:14] <dajhorn> Run the `seahorse` program at a terminal prompt and check that your password store is intact.
[17:14] <tgywa> How can I change the system default login shell on Ubuntu?
[17:15] <jrib> tgywa: same way I told you 3 hours ago.  Was chsh not what you wanted?
[17:15] <dajhorn> tgywa: Don't do this unless you have a Real Good Reason.   Individual users can use the `chsh` program.
[17:15] <neriukas> tgywa ubuntu version?
[17:15] <tgywa> chsh .. will change only for a single user
[17:15] <vuln> wth? 10.04.1? My system was auto-updated?
[17:15] <vuln> God damn it.
[17:15] <posciak> hi, what package should I install to get oopango and oocairo? They are required to build awesomewm... build-dep didn't install them...
[17:15] <jrib> tgywa: yes, it's a user setting.  Change your /etc/adduser.conf if you want to change what adduser sets by default
[17:15] <tgywa> jrib, that is for a single user
[17:16] <tgywa> neriukas, I am using 10.04
[17:16] <jrib> tgywa: you still need to use chsh (or edit /etc/passwd directly) for existing users of course
[17:16] <jacop> does any of u guys good at java programming?
[17:16] <tgywa> I will do that then
[17:17] <jrib> jacop: try ##java
[17:17] <alex88> dajhorn: sorry..probably not same pass...my stupid error
[17:18] <tjc_> hi guys
[17:18] <dajhorn> alex88: Np.
[17:18] <vuln> Ok, how do I downgrade my Ubuntu to 10.04? How do I *UNDO* the last update?
[17:18] <jrib> !downgrade | vuln
[17:18] <neriukas> tgywa i worote link for you ;)
[17:19] <no--name> is there an app for ubuntu that lets you have two selected windows take up 50% of the montior each like in Windows 7?
[17:19] <tjc_> i have just bought my new camera canon 500d
[17:19] <vuln> I will have to reinstall my whole operating system? I can't believe it.
[17:19] <tjc_> and i cant install the software
[17:19] <geekertalk> i would delete the partition and install from a 10.04 distro
[17:19] <vuln> All my configurations and stuff.
[17:19] <vuln> :/
[17:19] <tjc_> could anyone help me
[17:19] <nucleus> i have a harddrive and it is formated to ntfs... should i see any different if i format it to ext4? speed or something
[17:19] <funnylookinhat> vuln: Your best course of action would probably be to zip up your home folder's contents, back it up somewhere else - and do a complete re-install of 10.04
[17:19] <vuln> :/
[17:19] <geekertalk> what is your question tj?
[17:19] <jrib> no--name: see if there's some compiz plugin (ask #compiz).  You could probably write something quickly with wmctrl
[17:20] <tjc_> how to install the software
[17:20] <tjc_> of the cd
[17:20] <no--name> ok
[17:20] <funnylookinhat> vuln: I wouldn't suggest it - but backing up all of your hidden folders/files could save many of your configurations....  but there is a good chance they'll also break some 10.04 stuff./
[17:20] <vuln> ok see you guys
[17:20] <AnthIste> why does a program not detect shared libraries in its current directory? you need LD_LIBRARY_PATH?
[17:20] <brandon420> nucleus, they say you would see a small speed boost, but i personaly havent ever seen a speed increase at all.
[17:20] <vuln> funnylookinhat: ok
[17:21] <nucleus> brandon420: okey, thx!
[17:21] <bnovc> wow, there are a lot of people here now....I noticed after installing Ubuntu 10.04 at work that I occassionally can not type in a window until I tab out of it and then go back to it. This happens several times a day... does anyone know a fix for this?
[17:21] <bnied> does anyone know how to disable iSCSI during an automated install?
[17:21] <NeKit> how to pair Bluetooth device from terminal?
[17:21] <brandon420> nucleus, your welcome./
[17:22] <Kyle__> bnied: Um, I thought you had to explicitly _enable_ iscsi.
[17:22] <Pici> tjc_: I'm pretty sure that the Canon EOS tools are Windows/Mac only.
[17:22] <Kruptein1> are there people who love/like to test apps?
[17:22] <bnied> Kyle__, I don't have it enabled in my config, and it's popping up. And refusing to go away.
[17:22] <Pici> !ot | Kruptein1
[17:23] <ludo__> salut
[17:23] <Kyle__> bnied: Err.  Do you have any iscsi targets on your network?
[17:23] <Kruptein1> Pici: sorry somehow I pressed #ubuntu instead of #python :D
[17:23]  * Kyle__ ponders.  You should be able to skip right by it.
[17:23] <juk_> !10.10 | Kruptein1 perhaps
[17:23] <bnied> Kyle__, nope. This server supports iSCSI, though, which is why it's coming up (I presume).
[17:24] <Kruptein1> wtf has that todo with me?
[17:24] <Kyle__> bnied: You have an iscsi hba on that box?
[17:24] <bnied> Kyle__, the NICs seem to support iSCSI
[17:24] <craz1k> hey guys, who can help me with ubuntu 10.19?
[17:24] <craz1k> *10.10
[17:24] <Zykotic-K9> craz1k, ask in #ubuntu+1
[17:24] <bnied> Kyle__, HP DL360 G5
[17:25] <Kyle__> bnied: All nic's support iscsi, using the software hba.
[17:25] <Kyle__> bnied: I don't know what to tell you.  As long as you're not telling it to install on an iSCSI target, you should be able to skip right past it.
[17:25] <bnied> Kyle__, OK. I know nothing of iSCSI apart from this issue.
[17:25] <Kyle__> bnied: That said, I only ever installed RHEL based distros on my big servers.
[17:26] <mustangg> good day all. I would like to know where I can find a list of supported wireless-N (mini pci/e) adaptors
[17:26] <Kyle__> bnied: It's pretty cool stuff.  If you need fast block-level access over TCP, it's the way to go.  If you need file level, then NFS still beats it.
[17:26] <tgywa> dajhorn, neriukas, jrib ... the thing is related to a symbolic link. how can I remove a sym link ... sh -> dash ... and have instead ... sh -> bash
[17:26] <vladimir_> hola
[17:26] <bnied> Kyle__, sweet
[17:27] <tgywa> dajhorn, neriukas, jrib ... cat /etc/adduser.conf | grep bash ... DSHELL=/bin/bash
[17:27] <juk_> !wireless | mustangg
[17:27] <prod-beginner> Hi, i am here looking for help with enabling userdir for apache. Have followed several tutorials but i only ever get 404. Thanx in advance :)
[17:28] <VCoolio> tgywa: overwrite it: ln -sf /bin/bash /bin/sh
[17:28] <prod-beginner> apache2*
[17:28] <juk_> !apache2 | prod-beginner
[17:28] <mustangg> thanks for the assist  juk_ , guess google's _not_ always helpfull.
[17:29] <prod-beginner> !apache2
[17:29] <tgywa> VCoolio, many thanks
[17:29] <archangelpetro> has anyone had any experience recovering passwords for .docx formats?
[17:29] <tgywa> is now changed
[17:29] <prod-beginner> sorry lol
[17:29] <juk_> !httpd | prod-beginner
[17:29] <Somelauw> Does ubuntu/gnome have some equivalent to the eventviewer in windows.
[17:29] <juk_> !lamp | prod-beginner
[17:29] <Pici> !msthebot
[17:29] <Pici> !msgthebot
[17:30] <Somelauw> I basically collects errors and warnings when hardware fails to work properly.
[17:30] <Somelauw> Like when you get a BSOD.
[17:30] <Somelauw> ?
[17:31] <soby> can anyone help me in solving realtek driver problem. It fails everytime during the boot process.. here is the kernel log... http://paste.ubuntu.com/499278/
[17:31] <ludo__> salut
[17:31] <Zykotic-K9> Somelauw, it certainly isn't GUI but check the logs in /var/log for the various Logs
[17:33] <Somelauw> Zykotic-K9, do you know which of those logs is the most interesting when wifi fails.
[17:33] <Somelauw> ?
[17:33] <Zykotic-K9> Somelauw, sorry, not sure
[17:34] <IdleOne> Somelauw: dmesg is probably one to look at
[17:34] <rabber_p> I use Ubuntu 10.04.1 and it is updated. I have trouble with VLC . It resets always automatically his playlist column witdh and playlist options. the other options are not reseting. can someone help me ? may i wait vlc 1.1 ?
[17:34] <Zykotic-K9> Somelauw, message is the output of dmesg BTW
[17:34] <CharlieSu> Has anyone ever tried to 'dd' a large file on and EC2 instance?  I'm trying, but the filesystem isn't showing any size changes..'
[17:35] <Zykotic-K9> Somelauw, sorry messages
[17:35] <Somelauw> I have about 5 dmseg files?
[17:36] <soby> can anyone help me in solving realtek driver problem. It fails everytime during the boot process.. here is the kernel log... http://paste.ubuntu.com/499278/
[17:36] <Zykotic-K9> Somelauw, i was wrong about the message ;)  - the older files are archived (thus the 5 different files)
[17:36] <JohnHeikkila> Heyo
[17:37] <rabber_p> I use Ubuntu 10.04.1 and it is updated. I have trouble with VLC . It resets always automatically his playlist column witdh and playlist options. the other options are not reseting. can someone help me ? may i wait vlc 1.1 ?
[17:37] <Somelauw> I hardly understand the messages to be honest.
[17:37] <Braber01> Hey I disabled the GUI login and now I'm getting a msg saying I should check my BIOS is this normal?
[17:37] <StaRetji> folks, I've installed network manager and it is automatically added session startup, but after reboot I can't see it in panel/taskbar. How to add it there?
[17:39] <kunu> what is the /bin/false
[17:39] <AnthIste> why does a program not detect shared libraries in its current directory? you need LD_LIBRARY_PATH?
[17:40] <Zykotic-K9> kunu, it is typically used to create accounts that cannot actual log onto the system
[17:40] <LjL> kunu: a small program that always returns 1
[17:40] <Karen_m> how is Ubuntu even working on Maverick if they do not have the sound issues fixed in Lucid?  A reboot will knock out the sound, a few reboots later it will be back.  Nothing changes in terms of hardware, just something whacky *somewhere8
[17:41] <Pici> LjL: If used for a login shell, it won't let a user login interactively.
[17:41] <kunu> oh thanks
[17:41] <kunu> and /dev/null？
[17:42] <LjL> kunu: it's a device that swallows anything you put into it without doing anything with it
[17:42] <Zykotic-K9> kunu, /dev/null is a "black hole"
[17:42] <prod-beginner> does anyone have a ubuntu specific tutorial on settings up userdir for apache2. Ver 10.04
[17:43] <JohnHeikkila> !apache
[17:43] <juk_> prod-beginner:http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/howto/public_html.html
[17:44] <kunu> what is “black hole”？
[17:44] <ruif13> hi, i ve an toshiba a660 17j with ubuntu 10.04 and dono why  the ubuntu freezes ....
[17:44] <Kaffien> i seem to have lost fancy graphics on my netbook ...
[17:44] <Zykotic-K9> kunu, things go in - but they don't come out -- they disappear
[17:44] <JohnHeikkila> ruif13: Could you give us some more details?
[17:44] <Braber01> hey, After I shut down my computer after disableing the GUI login, the next time I've started it up I've gotten messages saying I should check my BIOS is this normal ?
[17:44] <juk_> prod-beginner: it's not ubuntu specific it is on top of google search
[17:44] <Kaffien> i'm using ubuntu 10.4 nbr how can i configure X via the gui  or autodetect my card?
[17:44] <kunu> en ，thank you
[17:44] <JohnHeikkila> Kaffien: Which fancy graphics
[17:44] <JohnHeikkila> Kaffien: Window decorations?
[17:45] <ruif13> only freezes and when that apeans i do ctrl-alt +f2 and restart gdm
[17:45] <ruif13> but lost all my work:(
[17:45] <prod-beginner> thank you, will have a check now but ive read about 50 sites off google so far so ive prob covered this one.
[17:45] <prod-beginner> tyvm :)
[17:45] <soby_> can anyone help me in solving realtek driver problem. It fails everytime during the boot process.. here is the kernel log... http://paste.ubuntu.com/499278/
[17:45] <leu> hello
[17:46] <JohnHeikkila> Kaffien: You can do in console: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[17:47] <kunu> very good，I can  ask questions here, the way to learn English
[17:47] <Sjeban> I'm back
[17:47] <JohnHeikkila> !offtopic > kunu
[17:47] <Kyle__> Wow, soby_ was impatient.
[17:47] <JohnHeikkila> kunu: That is just to tell you the channel exists ;)
[17:47] <Sjeban> Danm wireless problem :(
[17:48] <AlexzAK> Hi all
[17:48] <ruif13> JohnHeikkila any idea to solve that freeze problem :)
[17:48] <JohnHeikkila> !ask | Sjeban
[17:48] <JohnHeikkila> ruif13: Hmm, I don't know if I can help. I am not very familiar with the gdm package
[17:48] <Sjeban> Ok. Ass soon as i fix this, i'm gonna get rid of linux
[17:48] <SteveThing> can someone help me track down why a program tries to start on boot-up and how to remove it?
[17:49] <JohnHeikkila> Sjeban: Why :(
[17:49] <ruif13> JohnHeikkila but to un-freeze the only way is restart gdm but ... i think freeze can be solved without lost work
[17:49] <st__> SteveThing, session settings?
[17:49] <JohnHeikkila> ruif13: Hmm, that sounds very awkward to loose all the work like that. Does it crash if you don't use ALT+F2?
[17:49] <SteveThing> st__, I don't think so. I don't see it in the startup programs list
[17:49] <Sjeban> John, could you please pvt me?
[17:50] <AlexzAK> I want to report bug on 10.10 beta,
[17:50] <AlexzAK> but ob page https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick link "Report a bug" points to
[17:50] <AlexzAK> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[17:50] <AlexzAK> How can i report bug in ubuntu 10.10 beta installer?
[17:50] <FloodBot3> AlexzAK: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:50] <ruif13> JohnHeikkila no i need to w8 about 1 or 2 minutes
[17:50] <jrib> AlexzAK: what happens when you follow the directions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs?
[17:50] <Zykotic-K9> AlexzAK, reask the same question in #ubuntu+1
[17:51] <JohnHeikkila> ruif13: Don't use ALT+F2, will the PC freeze if you don't use ALT+F2?
[17:51] <ysk> hi i need help  regarding my sound driver and compiz fusion
[17:51] <ysk> can anyone help me out?
[17:51] <joe__> hello how do i mount my ntfs disc in 10.4? tried sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sdd /mnt/usb
[17:51] <JohnHeikkila> ysk: Sure. I think I know Compiz Fusion and something about sounds
[17:51] <ruif13> JohnHeikkila i only use to solve my problem and not w8 for unfreeze
[17:52] <tlir> is there some decent way/guide to put ubuntu (or it's netbook edition) installed on a USB? (just like a hard drive, not the live option)
[17:52] <ysk> thanks mate
[17:52] <kunu> JohnHeikkila, I just praise the one just
[17:52] <ysk> actually i installed simple compiz and advanced both
[17:52] <ysk> i was checking simple and it conflicts i guess
[17:52] <ysk> i uninstalled simple compiz
[17:52] <SteveThing> st__, the program is Playstation Media Server and I didn't add anything to startup applications. It tries to start on boot-up, but doesn't seem to start correctly
[17:52] <ysk> but now my advanced compiz is not working
[17:53] <JohnHeikkila> ysk: You should remove the Compiz simple package. "sudo apt-get remove <package name>"
[17:53] <ysk> means not a single confiz effect is working however they are on
[17:53] <Kaffien> well that didn't do much of anything JohnHeikkila,  i also noticed i dont seem to have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[17:53] <ysk> mate its already uninstalled
[17:53] <trojan_spike> that simple package is ok
[17:54] <a5h15h> external hard disk is not getting detected...it used to automount but now when i plug it in ..no action
[17:54] <JohnHeikkila> Kaffien: The "xorg.conf" is "Xorg.conf" and you can only edit it as root (sudo)
[17:54] <ysk> or is there any ommand to remove all compiz things and then by next command i would reinstall it again?
[17:54] <JohnHeikkila> ysk: I guess. Let me check..
[17:54] <JohnHeikkila> ysk: Yes. "sudo apt-get remove compiz"
[17:54] <kokozedman> hey guys... i'm getting serious trouble with my KVM: error: monitor socket did not show up.: Connection refused
[17:55] <ysk> thanks mate
[17:55] <shorty> hallo!
[17:55] <Zykotic-K9> Kaffien, if you want to generate an xorg.conf you can see my notes at http://sites.google.com/site/alucidfs/how-i-do/create-an-xorg-conf-file
[17:55] <kokozedman> it used to work even today
[17:55] <JohnHeikkila> shorty: Hello!
[17:55] <kokozedman> and now, it doesn't work anylonger... i'm not sure what happened
[17:55] <suraj> hello
[17:55] <chadi> when I click apply system wide proxy settings, it hangs, it asks me 3 times for my password, then it asks me for my password to make edits to gconf, which always fail and I am sure i inputted the correct pass. what is wrong?
[17:55] <Kaffien> JohnHeikkila, i know that much i also noticed that it doesn exisit  in that dir Xorg.conf  or xorg.conf  in  /etc/X11/ where it normally is. nor is there a copy in /root   or /home/user
[17:55] <SteveThing> can someone help me track down why a program tries to start on boot-up and how to remove it?
[17:56] <ysk> and how to reinstall it
[17:56] <JohnHeikkila> SteveThing: System-->Administration-->Startup Applications
[17:56] <ysk> with advanced plugins?
[17:56] <SteveThing> JohnHeikkila, Tried that, it isn't there.
[17:56] <trojan_spike> SteveThing, what programme is it?
[17:56] <JohnHeikkila> ysk: "sudo apt-get install compiz compiz-fusion"
[17:56] <ysk> i am using ubuntu 10.04 lucid
[17:56] <SteveThing> trojan_spike, Playstation Media Server (pms-linux)
[17:57] <ysk> and second thing my mic is npot working properly its working on winxp but not on ubuntu
[17:57] <JohnHeikkila> trojan_spike: you should try "MediaTomb" . Your PS3 will detect it when you start MediaTomb
[17:57] <JohnHeikkila> ysk: Is it an USB mic?
[17:57] <trojan_spike> uve check 'start up applications' i take it?
[17:57] <a5h15h> My external hard disk is not getting detected..how to fix this?
[17:57] <tonsofpcs> a5h15h: plug it in.
[17:57] <ysk> actually its builtin mic i am using lenove ideapad its a 10 inch mini laptop
[17:57] <JohnHeikkila> trojan_spike: He already tried it
[17:57] <a5h15h> tonsofpcs, nothing happens
[17:58] <SteveThing> JohnHeikkila, I tried mediatomb and it didn't work for me. hence me using PMS... just trying to fix one simple issue
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[17:58] <FloodBot3> Psy-Jack`: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:58] <trojan_spike> i dont know what it is,, am guessing an emulator?
[17:58] <tonsofpcs> a5h15h: different port
[17:58] <trojan_spike> lol,, a clever lil bot
[17:58] <tonsofpcs> oy...
[17:58] <kthomas_vh> vey
[17:58] <JohnHeikkila> ysk: Okay. You can see the audo icon in your menubar, right? Click it and then press Sound Preferences.
[17:58] <Pici> Its over.
[17:59] <a5h15h> tonsofpcs, nothing
[17:59] <SteveThing> is there a way to remove a program from boot up? is it in init.d?
[17:59] <JohnHeikkila> ysk: Then click the tab "input" and try to put the input volume up
[17:59] <suraj> hey guys how to add workspaces in 3D ???
[17:59] <ysk> i cant see the icon
[17:59] <thenthenio> Hello, on ubuntu server 8.04 how to run the setup script (the one that lets you choose which servers to install) from prompt?
[17:59] <Ken8521> Stevethepirate, sys/pref/start up programs.. uncheck it.
[18:00] <SteveThing> Ken8521, Again, it is NOT in the startup applications..
[18:00] <JohnHeikkila> ysk: Really? Hmm. Run "gnome-volume-control"
[18:00] <juk_> !server | thenthenio
[18:00] <ysk> i got it
[18:00] <JohnHeikkila> ysk: Good. Then click the input tab and turn the input volume on
[18:00] <Braber01> um hi
[18:01] <JohnHeikkila> !hi | Braber01
[18:01] <JohnHeikkila> righht.
[18:01] <Ken8521> Stevethepirate, what is it you're trying to keep froms tarting
[18:01] <JohnHeikkila> Hello Braber01!
[18:01] <ysk> it was on but was low now i did the high
[18:01] <SteveThing> Playstation Media Server (pms-linux)
[18:01] <madsy> In the Ubuntu Software Center is Lucid, the "popularity" bar is gone. Is there a way to get it back?
[18:01] <ysk> let me check whether its working or not
[18:01] <Ken8521> SteveThing,
[18:01] <Ken8521> see above
[18:01] <JohnHeikkila> ysk: Okay
[18:01] <a5h15h> My external hard disk is not getting detected..how to fix this?
[18:01] <madsy> I mean the stars that were displayed after each program in the previous versions.
[18:02] <SteveThing> Ken8521, Playstation Media Server (pms-linux)
[18:02] <Braber01> recently I changed from the GUI login to the Text-based login, and now I'm getting a message that I need to check My BIOS is this normal and how do i do it?
[18:02] <thenthenio> juk_: tkx
[18:02] <JohnHeikkila> Braber01: When you boot, the first screen you get should be a BIOS screen. Press F2, F9 or some key like that (it should say which) to get to the BIOS menu
[18:02] <ysk> john its like to much noise
[18:02] <ysk> like pissssshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[18:03] <JohnHeikkila> ysk: Yep, you should put the input to about halfway
[18:03] <ysk> i recorded and that is result
[18:03] <juk_> !thanks | thenthenio
[18:03] <ysk> in xp its perfect
[18:03] <chadi> how can I change the systemwide proxy settings through the terminal? the GUI way does nto work
[18:03] <VCoolio> a5h15h: if you do 'sudp fdisk -l' (small L at the end), does it show in the terminal?
[18:03] <Braber01> thank you, how ever it also gave me a command that I should run to check the bios as well
[18:03] <a5h15h> VCoolio, no
[18:04] <JohnHeikkila> ysk: Press also the radio button in the input tab to select the hardware to use for the mic, then you should see "connector" and try the microphones
[18:04] <Sjeban> ok, i'm back now
[18:04] <VCoolio> then it's a hardware thing; usb ok? cable ok? drive itself ok?
[18:05] <Johanness> a5h15h: a5h15h: does lsusb show somthing like the device?
[18:05] <Somelauw> Does someone know a way to get some sort of eventviewer of my wifi-card?
[18:06] <ysk> i cant see the radio option
[18:06] <ysk> but i saw the hardware and i se;lected input driver
[18:06] <a5h15h> Johanness, what is lsusb?
[18:06] <ysk> and now there is no recording
[18:06] <astier> a5h15h: a program
[18:06] <Johanness> a5h15h: a command from the cli
[18:07] <JohnHeikkila> a5h15h: It means open console and do "lsusb"
[18:07] <juk_> why I dont have THRM in /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/ since i migrated from laptop to pc
[18:08] <ysk> john the voice i recorded but when i play it it feels like signals are not coming dat sort of noise souund
[18:08] <Zolomon> How can I enable swedish characters on ubuntu? I've used dpkg-reconfigure locales and it set LANG to se_SV.UTF-8 but I still can't use 'em in any application. In ubuntu they render like: ????, ???? and ????.
[18:08] <JohnHeikkila> juk_: Maybe your PC doesn't support THRM
[18:09] <juk_> !locale | Zolomon
[18:09] <JohnHeikkila> ysk: Try the "Connectors"
[18:09] <juk_> !language | Zolomon
[18:09] <juk_> sorry
[18:09] <a5h15h> Johanness, it doesnt show up
[18:09] <Zolomon> (What was wrong with my language?)
[18:10] <JohnHeikkila> ysk: Press the Hardware tab and then select the "hardware" and select Analog Stereo Duplex
[18:10] <juk_> Zolomon: it's in Administration > Language
[18:10] <juk_> Zolomon: i said sorry
[18:10] <mbroeker> try se_SE.utf8 or se_SV.utf8
[18:10] <ysk> it is selected
[18:10] <Zolomon> Oh, sorry juk_ :)
[18:10] <Johanness> a5h15h: the me to think it's harware problem, change cable or so.
[18:10] <JohnHeikkila> ysk: Hmm, I think I'm out of ideas :/
[18:10] <jcrawford> BluesKaj, hey do you have a website?  I wrote up a post on my site about the Bose Speakers and mentioned you as a great help, would like to link to your site etc.
[18:11] <ysk> thanks bro
[18:11] <mccrase90> i love dick
[18:11] <JohnHeikkila> !language mccrase90
[18:11] <chadi> please help me reset my proxy settings in gnome-network-properties :(
[18:12] <istevenmon> wow nice, long time ive not been here
[18:12] <jcrawford> mccrase90, get a life, no one cares how much you like it
[18:12] <JohnHeikkila> !language > mccrase90
[18:12] <juk_> Zolomon: it's in Administration > Language Support, tricky thing is you have to drag the language to upest after intallation and aply system wide
[18:12] <st__> what's wrong with these people?
[18:12] <etyrnal> mccrase90, install it
[18:12] <jcrawford> chadi, what issue are you having?
[18:12] <SteveThing> Can someone help me figure why netstat -anp shows port 5001 is listening by process java at bootup? the application is not set to start at boot
[18:12] <jcrawford> lol etyrnal sudo apt-get install d*ck
[18:12] <Pici> Don't feed the trolls.
[18:12] <istevenmon> hi guys, how is the best way to know if i have lost connectivity to the internet? i need something to monitor 24/7 or if the link has gone down
[18:13] <BluesKaj> jcrawford, no , my website is strictly family stuff, there's no linux support links there .
[18:13] <SteveThing> well, the application I am having trouble with isn't set to start up at boot
[18:13] <jcrawford> BluesKaj, ok well i referenced ya by nickname and mentioned the channel :)
[18:13] <juk_> @jcrawford: thanks for laugh
[18:13] <st__> istevenmon, try pingig google and analyze exit code
[18:13] <BluesKaj> jcrawford, that's the best way :)
[18:13] <chadi> jcrawford, I have cntlm that I use for authentication in my university, so I interchange between direct connection (when home) and 127.0.0.1:3128 when in uni .. now I can't change systemwide proxy settings anymore
[18:13] <istevenmon> st__: i thought about it, but wanted to know if there was something already implemented, and i dont know if google would like me pinging 24/7
[18:14] <jcrawford> istevenmon, yes as st__ said write a script that pings google every hour or so and logs when the connection is down
[18:14] <jcrawford> no way to notify anyone though other than a log since there is no connection
[18:14] <jcrawford> chadi, why can you not? what happens when you click apply system-wide?
[18:14] <jcrawford> I do a very similar thing with my works corporate proxy
[18:14] <BluesKaj> jcrawford, if you wish you can PM me with your website url. :)
[18:15] <istevenmon> jcrawford: well yes, i just want to know for my box because it will force to switch my isp since i have two connections but the 1 hour gap is too long
[18:15] <SteveThing> well, i figured it out...
[18:15] <chadi> jcrawford, it used to work fine -- started to experiment this after having updated -- it just hangs .. then asks for my pass 3 times in a row, then asks for my pass to change gconf settings and it says wrong pass
[18:15] <jcrawford> chadi, then you are entering an incorrect password
[18:16] <chadi> jcrawford, this is not the first time I do it.. come on
[18:16] <jcrawford> chadi, try creating a new user account and trying to set the proxy stuff under that new user to see if it works or not
[18:16] <jcrawford> chadi, i have a python script that might help ya but it's not 100% finished
[18:16] <chadi> jcrawford, how come it accepts my pass for the 3 times in a row and gives wrong pass only when gconf changes come
[18:16] <jcrawford> and for some reason when the script is run if you open the UI it does not see it as being set system-wide even though it is :)
[18:17] <JohnHeikkila> chadi: Are you trying to do "su"?
[18:17] <jcrawford> chadi, that I am not sure of
[18:17] <chadi> JohnHeikkila, no
[18:17] <jcrawford> JohnHeikkila, he is changing the prefs under System -> Preferences -> Network Proxy
[18:17] <jcrawford> and hitting Apply System-wide
[18:17] <jcrawford> but when it comes time to save the gconf it rejects his password
[18:17] <jcrawford> but accepts it 2 times before the 3rd
[18:17] <JohnHeikkila> Ohh
[18:18] <JohnHeikkila> Why 3 times?
[18:18] <jcrawford> so i am not sure why GConf would reject it
[18:18] <ysk> how could i learn terminla commands?
[18:18] <jcrawford> yea i wondered that too, it's 2 times for me
[18:18] <chadi> yeah it used to be 2 times for me too :/
[18:18] <avinash_hm> hi, i have a program generating seg fault ... i wan't to dump the core file .. it's not getting dumped...'ulimit -c' is unlimited .. any pointers ..
[18:18] <chadi> now 3 times and the 4th for gconf
[18:18] <AbhiJit>  bye
[18:18] <jcrawford> ysk,
[18:18] <jcrawford> http://linux.byexamples.com/archives/319/command-line-tutorial-for-beginners/
[18:18] <chadi> Let me show you guys what happens when I launch gnome-network-properties from terminal
[18:18] <JohnHeikkila> ysk: Install this: http://launchpad.net/clicompanion/1.0/1.0rc/+download/clicompanion_1.0-2_all.deb
[18:18] <JohnHeikkila> ysk: CliCompanion
[18:19] <juk_> !man | ysk
[18:19] <jcrawford> chadi, pastebin it please
[18:19] <TheEskimo> Hello #ubuntu. I have a slight problem. I'm trying to install the grub boot loader on my /dev/sda5 partition by running "grub-install /dev/sda5". The error is "Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device". Additional details: I'm using a macbook pro and trying to do a triple boot (win and osx working, just need my *nix). If I run mount /dev/sda5 /media/tmp + ls /media/tmp(/boot) I can see the boot folder exi
[18:19] <TheEskimo> sts and contains the right files from what i can tell.
[18:19] <ysk> thanks
[18:20] <mcrawfor> arg why the hell does terminal server reconnect me when i logout unless i click a stupid button within 30 secs? why can't I turn that braindead functionality off? i logged out because i wanted to log out! </rant>
[18:20] <istevenmon> ubuntu supports vrrpd right?
[18:20] <JohnHeikkila> istevenmon: Yes
[18:20] <chadi> jcrawford, http://www.nomorepasting.com/getpaste.php?pasteid=34510 after trying several times
[18:20] <istevenmon> awesome thanks a lot
[18:21] <obiwan_> hi, i'm trying to mount a file as a partition. i filled a 30 mb file with zeros. the effect i want is that when i do fdisk -l, i get a sort of /dev/sth for that file, so i can mount it or something. does this manke any sense?
[18:21] <JohnHeikkila> istevenmon: I think vrrpd is for linux
[18:21] <istevenmon> but wanted to know if there was like a package or if i needed to compile form source
[18:21] <chadi> jcrawford, note that I also use ntlmaps which listens on 5865, and cntlm listens on 3128, I used to use both interchangeably withotu any problems before the updates, and it used to ask for the pass 2 times only
[18:22] <hggdh> kim0: ping re. server offering
[18:23] <slyboots> Hello
[18:23] <juk_> obiwan_: http://user-mode-linux.sourceforge.net/old/fs.html is that what you want?
[18:23] <juk_> !hi | slyboots
[18:24] <slyboots> I have an issue that Im trying to figure out;  I want to create a folder in which any user who creates a file;/folder inside the system will autoassign permissions and a owner/group
[18:24] <BadElvis> hi how can i install windows on the same hard disk without destroying ubuntu
[18:25] <jcrawford> chadi, i am not sure, sorry
[18:25] <KillGuta> Guys, how can I download youtube videos?
[18:25] <jcrawford> mine seems to work fine I don't get all that junk output you do
[18:25] <jcrawford> I get the systemwide stuff once and only once
[18:25] <chadi> jcrawford, yeah
[18:25] <jcrawford> yours also says that your user proxy settings differ from the system
[18:25] <chadi> JohnHeikkila, any idea?
[18:25] <jcrawford> might want to check that
[18:25] <KillGuta> I tried clive and youtube-dl and they didn't work
[18:25] <oracle> how do i make sure for certain that NetworkManager NEVER EVER STARTS AGAIN
[18:25] <chadi> jcrawford, what does that mean exactly/
[18:26] <jcrawford> chadi, look at the systemwide information
[18:26] <JohnHeikkila> oracle: "sudo apt-get install wicd"
[18:26] <jcrawford> your system wide HTTP uses port 3128 but your USER HTTP uses 5865
[18:26] <Johanness> BadElvis: use multiple partitions and a bootloader
[18:26] <Pici> KillGuta: I've used abby in the past.
[18:26] <oracle> any one else?
[18:26] <jcrawford> fix that and try again :)
[18:26] <oracle> i dont want any network manager
[18:26] <chadi> jcrawford, so I need to reset my user settings?
[18:26] <juk_> in word linux 5 letters im not bot
[18:27] <Pici> juk_: Excuse me?
[18:27] <jcrawford> chadi, i would either fix the user settings or the system settings whichever is incorrect
[18:27] <KillGuta> Pici, nope. Abby uses clive
[18:28] <Johanness> oracle: Is shutdown network in networkmanger not enouch.
[18:28] <chadi> jcrawford, I uderstand you, but I don't know how. any idea how to reset everything and start over without formatting /home
[18:28] <Pici> KillGuta: And abby worked for me as recently as this past weekend.
[18:28] <juk_> Pici: i was talking to floodbot
[18:28] <chadi> jcrawford, everything as in network proxy settings
[18:28] <prod-beginner> Still not having any luck with userdir. Everythingis set up correctly. even UserDir enable USERNAME isnt helping
[18:29] <LjL> juk_: however, floodbot is just a robot, and won't realize you're talking to him :)
[18:30] <leshak> hi! i need from help! i'm installed two servers, the first server are mysql databases but the second server i need that connect on the first mysql server using phpmyadmin, how can i make this? 10.10.0.5(mysql databases) 10.10.0.6(need connect phpmyadmin with 10.10.0.5)
[18:30] <prod-beginner> could someone helpme debug please as i really dont kno where to start when debugging
[18:30] <no--name> how to set all nautilus settings to their defaults?
[18:30] <juk_> prod-beginner: you want dir listing enabled?
[18:30] <prod-beginner> i am trying to enable userdir in apache2
[18:31] <prod-beginner> but only gettin 404
[18:31] <WhiteDawn> leshak, do you need to change the ip of the second server? I never used mysql or phpmyadmin, but on the second server cant u manualy set an IP on the network to 10.10.0.5?
[18:31] <juk_> prod-beginner: what is it?
[18:31] <jrib> prod-beginner: well how did you try?  (try to keep responses on a single line and address the person you are talking to)
[18:31] <prod-beginner> ok sorry
[18:32] <jcrawford> chadi, if you ALWAYS used the gnome-network-properties you should be able to click Direct Internet Connection and apply system wide
[18:32] <gwern> on lucid i686. has anyone seen an issue where mplayer plays files without problem, but then takes like 5 seconds to exit? doesn't seem to be related to .mplayer/config or mplayer options
[18:32] <jcrawford> I am not sure which files are altered so I am not sure what to tell you to edit :)
[18:33] <jrib> gwern: yes, it's related to the sound (try with -ao null to see).  I haven't cared enough to look into ti
[18:34] <gwern> jrib: hm, you're right. it exits immediately with -ao null
[18:34] <WhiteDawn> gwern, pulseaudio issue maybe?
[18:34] <gwern> WhiteDawn: that would be the conclusion I'm trying to avoid :(
[18:35] <JEEBsv> Ohi. Can anyone enlighten me on the official way of letting a 'normal user' touch (write etc.) stuff to the default /var/www folder, or is it overall unrecommended to use that folder in the first place?
[18:35] <gwern> I'll try asking #mplayer
[18:35] <JEEBsv> I tried adding myself to the www-data group, but I still don't seem to have the rights
[18:35] <WhiteDawn> gwern, can you try using alsa wrapper for pulse audio?
[18:35] <WhiteDawn> gwern, good idea
[18:36] <chadi> jcrawford, no I don't always use it; I usually find the UI from System > Pref > network proxy
[18:36] <LordDragon> hey all
[18:36] <jcrawford> chadi, that's the same UI so all is good
[18:36] <jrib> gwern: well if you find a solution, I'd appreciate it if you pass it along :)
[18:36] <jcrawford> i meant if you manually altered files, then you could not click the direct internet connection to wipe away the other changes
[18:37] <StaRetji> folks, I've installed network-manager under xfce4 but for some reason there is no icon present on taskbar. Help needed!
[18:37] <LordDragon> i tried compliling the latest mplayer and it failed with errors. now the version i installed with apt-get is now broken and wont stop. is there a way i can uninstall and reinstall the apt-get version?
[18:37] <gwern> WhiteDawn: while I'm waiting on #mplayer, any resources on using the alsa wrapper?
[18:37] <chadi> jcrawford, I never did, but I have a feeling that the flashplugin-installer did that :/
[18:37] <WhiteDawn> gwern, try -ao alsa possibly?
[18:37] <gwern> jrib: well, I need a solution because it's tripling the time it takes to do my daily flashcard review; it's just an inconvenience to you
[18:38] <leshak> WhiteDawn: server 1 - all databases | server 2 only phpmyadmin, how can i make for this phpmyadmin on server 2 connect using databases of the server 1?
[18:38] <rsr> hello
[18:38] <jrib> gwern: just use -ao alsa
[18:38] <gwern> WhiteDawn: no, -ao alsa doesn't seem to help
[18:38] <Zethrok> LordDragon: Cant you just do apt-get remove mplayer && apt-get install mplayer?
[18:38] <jrib> gwern: oh, it helps me :/
[18:38] <gwern> :(
[18:38] <LordDragon> Zethrok, ill try that
[18:38] <rsr> I am booting ubuntu on a macbook pro...trying to diagnose what I think is a hardware failure
[18:38] <st__> how to detect Intel AC97 sound card i Ubuntu?
[18:38] <WhiteDawn> gwern, hmm -ao aoss?
[18:39] <jrib> gwern: note I have mplayer installed from the motumedia ppa
[18:39] <chadi> jcrawford, I really don't know what to do ...
[18:39] <billur_19> How can i dock to system tray the chromium-browser (or google-chrome) with Alltray with a command ?
[18:39] <rsr> When I boot up ubuntu, does it use any of the macbooks proprietary firmwares by default?
[18:39] <gwern> WhiteDawn: -ao aoss?? -ao help lists no such thing here
[18:39] <LordDragon> Zethrok, ok i tried that. it still wont start
[18:39] <gwern> WhiteDawn: you mean -ao oss?
[18:40] <JohnHeikkila> WhiteDawn: gwern Do you mean "alsa -ao" in the console?
[18:40] <LordDragon> lorddragon@ubuntu:~$ mplayer
[18:40] <LordDragon> mplayer: relocation error: mplayer: symbol codec_wav_tags, version LIBAVFORMAT_52 not defined in file libavformat.so.52 with link time reference
[18:40] <Zethrok> LordDragon: What kind of errors? Starting it from console or via filemanager?
[18:40] <LordDragon> thats what happens when i try to start it from the command line
[18:40] <ip4nk> !help
[18:40] <WhiteDawn> gwern, try it
[18:40] <LordDragon> Zethrok, i think when i tried compiling a new mplayer, it updated certain components to incomatible libraries
[18:41] <LordDragon> i dont know how to revert it back
[18:41] <osteenbergen> Hi
[18:41] <WhiteDawn> JohnHeikkila, we talking bout mplayer -ao alsa
[18:41] <JohnHeikkila> Sounds like your MPlayer can't play WAV files
[18:41] <JohnHeikkila> Okay
[18:41] <billur_19> How can i dock to system tray the chromium-browser (or google-chrome) with Alltray with a command ?
[18:41] <Zethrok> LordDragon: Could you try https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mplayer/+bug/515429
[18:41] <JohnHeikkila> !hello | osteenbergen
[18:42] <ActionParsnip> billur_19: run: alltray chromium-browser
[18:42] <gwern> WhiteDawn: -ao oss seems to work, but only if nothing else is running, which means it's interesting but not a real solution
[18:42] <gwern> WhiteDawn: if something else is running -ao oss kills mplayer with an error about /dev/dsp being busy
[18:42] <ActionParsnip> gwern: means itsnot a codec issue
[18:42] <ActionParsnip> billur_19: same with any command :)
[18:42] <billur_19> ActionParsnip:  this is not working for chromium-browser (or google-chrome).
[18:42] <WhiteDawn> gwern, right, try this "aoss mplayer -ao oss"
[18:42] <skfin> Hey guys, do you have any idea how to record output sound(sound going to soundcard and from there to speakers)? outRec doesnt work and it doesnt have much settings, I also tried arecord and stuff but it didn't work(only managed to record some stutter)
[18:43] <ActionParsnip> billur_19: maybe it has issues being trayed.
[18:43] <billur_19> ActionParsnip: the problem is chrome is running many process not one.
[18:43] <LordDragon> Zethrok, ok someone replied to that with: this problem is caused by using unofficial, 3rd party packages of ffmpeg. install the ones from the ubuntu archive to resolve this issue.
[18:43] <gwern> WhiteDawn: gimme a moment to install alsa-oss...
[18:43] <LordDragon> Zethrok, how do i reinstall with the official ffmpeg?
[18:43] <ActionParsnip> billur_19: if you run the browser, then press alt+f2 and run: alltray ,if you click the browser, does it tray?
[18:43] <leshak> i need from help! (server 1 - all databases | server 2 only phpmyadmin, how can i make for this phpmyadmin on server 2 connect using databases of the server 1?)
[18:43] <gwern> WhiteDawn: a command like 'aoss mplayer -ao oss skank.ogg' has the exit delay with and without other programs running
[18:44] <billur_19> ActionParsnip: i have to give to cammand the process of windows. but how ? i had to docky with any idea to system tray. but i dont know how..
[18:44] <gwern> WhiteDawn: works both ways though
[18:44] <osteenbergen> skfin isnt the default recorder working?
[18:44] <billur_19> ActionParsnip: yes with gui it works.
[18:44] <a5h15h> quit
[18:45] <WhiteDawn> gwern, very strange, it seems it doesnt matter what sound layer mplayer is using, as long as it goes through alsa/pulseaudio it lags on close
[18:45] <ActionParsnip> billur_19: log a bug is all I can suggest. I know awn can have apps minimizing to the dock like mac does
[18:45] <billur_19> ActionParsnip: because with gui we tray the chrome's window not the other processes. i need to do it on command line.
[18:45] <obiwan_> hey juk_ i've read that, and it certanily does what i need. the problem is that looks like a project, in the sense that it doesn't look like i could grab a binary and run a command in my terminal. maybe i should install the uml thing, etc. i wonder if there's some other way, using common unix programs like mount, mkfs, etc. i think what i want is simmilar to what swap file does. i mean, you can either use a swap partition, or use a file as s
[18:45] <Zethrok> LordDragon: I'm guessing you might have installed another version of ffmpeg or using 3rd party for another [unofficial] build
[18:45] <billur_19> ActionParsnip: i use awn too. i did not know that awn do that. i will research.
[18:45] <ActionParsnip> billur_19: if you can alltray PID then you can get the pid of the process and tray that instead
[18:46] <gwern> WhiteDawn: that makes sense if mplayer or a layer is doing some sort of transaction with pulseaudio - registering/unregistering or soemwthing. I know part of mplayer's slowness to start comes from it doing stuff to block various screensavers from running
[18:46] <Zethrok> LordDragon: Could you try something like apt-get remove ffmpeg && apt-get install ffmpeg and run mplayer again?
[18:46] <gwern> pulseaudio doesn't have a reputation for speed
[18:46] <Zol> Damnit, didn't work. Still can't write ???????????? :(
[18:46] <LordDragon> Zethrok, well i was using some build script for getting the latest mplayer and it installed 3rd party libraries. how can i reinstall the proper ffmpeg? is there a way i can resintall mplayer and all its dependencies?
[18:46] <ActionParsnip> billur_19: set the win placement to smart and it should do it
[18:46] <xbonesx> downloading the mint menu for use in ubuntu is a nice addition... love it
[18:47] <Braber01> um with having a text-based login is there a way to change the color of the font or size of the font?
[18:47] <chadi> jcrawford, are those settings in /home or where? Because I need to get this working
[18:47] <gwern> jrib: I'm going to try installing mplayer-nogui from motumedia
[18:47] <billur_19> ActionParsnip: i look for it now but awn can not tray the programs. there is no a feature like this .
[18:47] <st__> xbonesx, mintm menu is kinda stupid
[18:47] <BluesKaj> skfin,  what is your audio source ?
[18:47] <Pici> leshak: dpkg --reconfigure phpmyadmin should prompt you for your mysql server ip and credentials.  Also, make sure that the credentials you are using are able to access mysql from the ip address that your phpmyadmin server is running on.
[18:47] <xbonesx> st__: why?
[18:47] <st__> it's inconvenient
[18:47] <billur_19> ActionParsnip: PIS is changing everytime i restart the program (also my computer). so it will not work on startup this command: alltray PID. :(
[18:48] <ActionParsnip> billur_19: you may need to alltray via pid after the app is executed using a bash script to both launch the app and to tray it
[18:48] <gwern> jrib: though https://launchpad.net/~motumedia/+archive/mplayer-daily doesn't seem very active...
[18:48] <ActionParsnip> billur_19: you can use the pidof command ;)
[18:48] <xbonesx> st__: i dont think so, but then again im about eyecandy and im all about that aspect
[18:48] <LordDragon> Zethrok, ok i did it. still get the same error
[18:48] <leshak> Pici: thanks! i'll try
[18:48] <billur_19> ActionParsnip:  i want to add this command to system startup.
[18:49] <st__> why i must probe my soundcard manually??
[18:49] <osteenbergen> leshak you can also try this: http://www.mittalpatel.co.in/access_mysql_database_hosted_remote_server_using_phpmyadmin
[18:49] <billur_19> ActionParsnip: sorry i did not understant you :(
[18:49] <ActionParsnip> billur_19: fine, write the script then add the script to the startup
[18:49] <JohnHeikkila> billur_19: System > Administration > Startup Applications
[18:49] <JohnHeikkila> billur_19: You can also add scripts there
[18:49] <VCoolio> Braber01: for colors add something like this to ~/.bashrc  (and /root/.bashrc if you like) http://pastie.org/1187014
[18:49] <WhiteDawn> gwern, try "mplayer -msglevel all=6"
[18:49] <skfin> BluesKaj: It is a game
[18:49] <billur_19> JohnHeikkila i know. i did it already. but the command have problems...
[18:50] <Guest28688> weird...
[18:50] <JohnHeikkila> billur_19: What kind?
[18:50] <peeps[work]> i just installed PAE kernel via apt-get.  will it automatically use this from now on when i boot, or do I have to edit something to make tha tthe default/
[18:50] <billur_19> ) ActionParsnip: sorry which command. i had already a command script on startup of system. but the command is not working.
[18:50] <skfin> BluesKaj: I solved this whit 3,5mm jack wire, I connected other end to speaker output and other to line in
[18:50] <WhiteDawn> gwern, and see what is printed out in the console when u close
[18:50] <leshak> osteenbergen: thanks! (:
[18:50] <gwern> WhiteDawn: http://pastebin.com/BB4HaYMU
[18:50] <billur_19> JohnHeikkila: i can not tray the chromium-browser (or google-chrome) .
[18:50] <Guest28688> Okay, I'm running lubuntu 10.04 and have a lexmark 2600 printer... not sure how to set it up?
[18:51] <JohnHeikkila> billur_19: Why not? Why should you even tray it?
[18:51] <st__> why my sound card works when I modprobe it but not automatically?
[18:51] <billur_19> JohnHeikkila: i use alltray to do it but it is not working because chrome is running many process not one.
[18:51] <Braber01> Thes color codes are for the forground colors right?
[18:51] <gwern> WhiteDawn: the long delay is just after 'Uninit audio: ffmpeg
[18:51] <ActionParsnip> billur_19: make the script launch the browser then run: val='pidof chromium-browser'; alltray $val ,you will need to examine the man page of alltray to see if it needs a special switch to tray via pid
[18:51] <JohnHeikkila> billur_19: I can run "alltray chromium-browser" without any trouble
[18:52] <billur_19> JohnHeikkila: not everytime. it is not possible ...,
[18:52] <rsr>  when I boot a linux live cd... does it boot up a laptop´s proprietary firmware by default? like firmware for graphics card?
[18:52] <billur_19> JohnHeikkila: many times it works but many times not...
[18:52] <VCoolio> Braber01: right
[18:52] <LordDragon> is there a way to reinstall mplayer and all its dependencies?
[18:52] <WhiteDawn> gwern, hmm could be a problem with ffmpeg then? Atleast the problem is a little more specific now
[18:52] <osteenbergen> rsr no it does not
[18:52] <chadi> what is the difference between system wide proxy settings and user proxy settings?
[18:52] <BluesKaj> skfin, check alsamixer make sure none of your cytls are muted or turned down ..then you won't need the line in loop
[18:52] <ActionParsnip> rsr: if its on the cd, yes
[18:52] <rsr> osteenbergen, ok thank you...just to make sure, i am talking about the firmware not the drivers
[18:53] <JohnHeikkila> billur_19: Does it not tray it? For me, it trays it but I have to click the icon on the tray to run it
[18:53] <jcrawford> chadi, system-wide means all users use those setting unless overridden
[18:53] <jrib> LordDragon: reinstalling rarely changes things
[18:53] <BluesKaj> err ctrls , skfin
[18:53] <jcrawford> user means ONLY for that user
[18:53] <gwern> WhiteDawn: it could be, but doesn't 'uninit' and 'removing filter' sound like it's waiting on pulseaudio/the system
[18:53] <LordDragon> jrib, so then what do i need to? completely reinstall ubuntu?
[18:53] <jrib> LordDragon: I don't know, I don't know your issue
[18:53] <jcrawford> chadi, as for your issues i am sorry I do not know how to solve it
[18:53] <Zethrok> LordDragon: hmmn, could you look into System->Administration->Software Sources. Try and disable most/all in "Other Software". Run apt-get update and then apt-get full-upgrade.
[18:54] <billur_19> JohnHeikkila:  with gui it trays because it understand which process is window. but with command line it does not works :(
[18:54] <chadi> jcrawford, yeah, it's okay thank you for trying :)
[18:54] <Zethrok> long shot though
[18:54] <JohnHeikkila> billur_19: Are you in a console mode?
[18:54] <ActionParsnip> billur_19: as I said: use. The pidof command
[18:54] <billur_19> ActionParsnip: im trying what you wrote me...
[18:55] <LordDragon> jrib, i had installed mplayer with apt-get, but then wanted to compile the latest one. but my compile failed halfway through and now the original one wont load. i just get this error: mplayer: relocation error: mplayer: symbol codec_wav_tags, version LIBAVFORMAT_52 not defined in file libavformat.so.52 with link time reference
[18:55] <billur_19> JohnHeikkila: console mode? i just had to add a script or command line startup program...
[18:55] <ActionParsnip> billur_19: you'll need to read: man alltray ,to see what switch is needed for pids. You can even assign a hotkey to show/hide the app (fun)
[18:55] <VCoolio> Braber01: now I think about it, the first one, with 333333, may be the bg color
[18:55] <WhiteDawn> gwern, yeah... sorry i'm not sure what to do here, i was hoping for a error message of some sort :/
[18:55] <krash> Anyone? Will a lexmark 2600 printer even work on lubuntu 10.04?
[18:55] <jrib> LordDragon: ls /usr/local/
[18:56] <gwern> WhiteDawn: if it were that easy, I'd've solved it already
[18:56] <osteenbergen> krash no idea but have you searched for it?
[18:56] <VCoolio> krash: isn't lexmark one of those who refuse to support linux in any way?
[18:56] <LordDragon> jrib
[18:56] <LordDragon> lorddragon@ubuntu:~$ ls /usr/local
[18:56] <LordDragon> bin  etc  games  include  lib  man  sbin  share  src
[18:56] <WhiteDawn> gwern, haha too true. The hardest problems are the ones the computer doesnt realize
[18:56] <jrib> LordDragon: what do you have in there :/
[18:56] <ActionParsnip> krash: check the lexmark site as well as www.openprinting.org lexmark are real hit and miss and if the have alinux driver it will most likely only be 32bit
[18:56] <WhiteDawn> gwern, what if u force kill mplayer with "killall mplayer"
[18:57] <coz_> VCoolio,  that #333333 would be close to black  ...is that correct?
[18:57] <krash> K thanks :)
[18:57] <gwern> WhiteDawn: you mean during the delay?
[18:57] <VCoolio> coz_: yes
[18:57] <WhiteDawn> gwern, that as well, but while its running too
[18:57] <ActionParsnip> !hcl | krash
[18:57] <WhiteDawn> gwern, see if it still hangs when u kill it
[18:57] <gwern> WhiteDawn: it does
[18:57] <sandking> anyone use ktoon here?
[18:57] <ActionParsnip> krash: in future I recommend HP. They support linux very well
[18:58] <gwern> WhiteDawn: both while it's still actually playing, and during the delay, it still delays
[18:58] <LordDragon> jrib, i posted whats in there
[18:58] <WhiteDawn> gwern, is it just mplayer? or other programs using audio have this problem
[18:58] <kapcom01> hello, i used ubuntu lucid live cd to install ubuntu on an LVM partitioned disk. First i installed lvm2 so the installer sees the logical volumes and then i installed on one of them.. Installation completed and after reboot  it drops to a shell.. something like this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/255477
[18:58] <LordDragon> Zethrok, E: Invalid operation full-upgrade
[18:58] <jrib> LordDragon: I meant inside the directories you posted.  You clearly have some custom things installed
[18:59] <gwern> WhiteDawn: hm. I'm not really sure how to check. if I fired up totem or something, any delay might be hidden by the GUI
[18:59] <gwern> similarly with flash
[18:59] <gwern> I guess I would need another CLI player
[18:59] <WhiteDawn> gwern, try launching it from the terminal, the prompt wont show up till the progrem closes
[19:00] <jrib> gwern: try cvlc
[19:00] <Zethrok> LordDragon: sorry, just apt-get upgrade :). Just keep in mind disabling all 3rd party sources will fetch official builds if you use those
[19:00] <billur_19>  ActionParsnip:  JohnHeikkila: thank you. i will try that i can do...
[19:00] <gwern> jrib: you mean vlc-nox ?
[19:01] <jrib> gwern: sure, cvlc is the command
[19:01] <LordDragon> Zethrok, yeah it had no effect
[19:01] <wildc4rd> evenin all
[19:02] <RoguishRavager> LordDragon: you did sudo apt-get upgrade right?
[19:02] <gwern> WhiteDawn: think I may've found a similar bug report by gooingling the uninit line: http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/pipermail/mplayer-users/2010-August/080852.html
[19:03] <LordDragon> RoguishRavager, yes
[19:03] <blenderer> is there some way to get the docs package for an application or library to always be installed when I install an application or library
[19:03] <WhiteDawn> gwern, sadly no replys
[19:03] <gwern> checking with cvlc doesn't help much. it seems to hang by default since it plays files consecutively immediately
[19:04] <st__> why my sound card works when I modprobe it but not automatically?
[19:04] <mbroeker> blenderer, it will be most likely in the -dev packages
[19:05] <gwern> WhiteDawn: yeah. nothing in september either
[19:05] <mbroeker> blenderer, check for -dev and -doc packages.
[19:05] <WhiteDawn> gwern, have u tried the terminal vlc
[19:05] <blenderer> i'm often offline, or connected to horrible connections, thinking damnit i wish I had the docs
[19:05] <LordDragon> RoguishRavager, it upgraded a few things, but nothing to do with mplayer
[19:05] <gwern> WhiteDawn: that was the terminal vlc
[19:06] <blenderer> mbroeker: i was hoping for somehow to automatically pulll them. I don't always remember to look
[19:06] <gwern> at level 9, the before-slowdown line is '[[[uninit getch2]]]
[19:06] <gwern> followed by 'alsa-uninit: pcm closed
[19:06] <gwern> so something about unhooking from alsa is very slow
[19:06] <WhiteDawn> gwern, yeah,
[19:08] <obiwan_> hey people, i'd like to know if its possible to make a partition out of a file. so fdisk -l will list /dev/file as a partition. i alraedy have a 30 mb file filled with zeros.
[19:08] <awdafgfaaa> hello ppl please someone help me with bind9   i have rndc issue i have run rndc-confgen and updated both named.conf and rndc.conf file the key is same but i have this error: http://pastebin.com/hZV5TAH8
[19:08] <awdafgfaaa> Im sick fixing this error i really need some help :-)
[19:09] <st__> obiwan_, loopback device
[19:09] <Dr_Willis>  /quit
[19:09] <obiwan_> st__: that's what i tried, mount -t iso9660 -o loop ~/Desktop/file /mnt
[19:10] <WhiteDawn> gwern, its obviously a widespread problem as the other user on the irc reported the same issue. Cant seem to find anything on the internet though
[19:10] <gwern> alright, let's try mplayer from https://launchpad.net/~rvm/+archive/mplayer
[19:10] <Atlantic777> Hi! I screwed up /var/log. Is there some way to get it work again?
[19:10] <Zykotic-K9> obiwan_, iso9660 is typically cdrom filesystem - is that what you want?
[19:10] <Atlantic777> I erased the whole dir.
[19:10] <mbroeker> awdafgfaaa, check the permissions for your key file rndc.key
[19:10] <gwern> nope, that mplayer has the delay too
[19:10] <obiwan_> st__: but doesnt work :( i get wrong filesystem or osmething
[19:10] <WhiteDawn> gwern, yeah i was gonna suggest u run a newwer version, but older ones work too
[19:11] <gwern> maybe I should try subversion mplayer
[19:11] <WhiteDawn> gwern, worth a shot
[19:11] <Zykotic-K9> gwern, what issue are you having with mplayer?
[19:11] <obiwan_> yes Zykotic-K9 , i want to make a kind of iso9660 cd device, so i can burn images to it
[19:11] <ActionParsnip> Tried vlc?
[19:11] <WhiteDawn> Zykotic-K9, it hangs for a couple of seconds on close
[19:11] <awdafgfaaa> mbroeker, -rw------- 1 chrnamed chrnamed    77 Sep 28 21:55 rndc.key
[19:11] <c3l> gwern: there wouldnt be any reason that the nightly builds would work, the version in the repo is stable and nice
[19:12] <gwern> ActionParsnip: vlc is no good; Mnemosyne uses mplayer
[19:12] <ActionParsnip> I see
[19:12] <VCoolio> Atlantic777: recreate the dir (sudo mkdir -p /var/log); if you want the contents back, try some recovery tool, there are several
[19:12] <WhiteDawn> Zykotic-K9, we narrowed it down to something with closing alsa
[19:12] <gwern> ActionParsnip: it may be possible to make mnemosyne use vlc or something, but it is distinctly an inferior option to actually solving the problem
[19:12] <Zykotic-K9> WhiteDawn, gwern sorry i gots nothin' for that issue (haven't experienced it, or heard of it before)  good luck guys.
[19:12] <ActionParsnip> gwern: have you ran the sound troubleshooting script?
[19:13] <ActionParsnip> gwern: mplayer imho is better anyhoo :)
[19:13] <mbroeker> awdafgfaaa, awdafgfaaa chmod 644 rndc.key and restart bind. if it helps, play with the permissions. if not, restore the old permissions, eg chmod 600 rndc.key
[19:13] <gwern> ActionParsnip: no. I doubt it would pick up non-error issues
[19:13] <Zykotic-K9> WhiteDawn, actually you could try switching the ao to something different to test
[19:13] <ActionParsnip> gwern: it gives a LOT of information about the sound system and drivers etc
[19:13] <krash> Thanks again all who answered me working on it :)
[19:14] <ActionParsnip> gwern: give its output using www.pastie.org
[19:14] <WhiteDawn> Zykotic-K9, yeah oss worked fine, but when we wrapped it in aoss the problem came back. Running OSS is a workaround as mplayer can be the only program running because it needs direct access to /dev/dsp
[19:14] <Atlantic777> VCoolio, there is /var/log dir but it's empty.
[19:14] <gwern> ActionParsnip: I don't know what this script is, anyway
[19:14] <Atlantic777> VCoolio, apt wont work because lock file is gone.
[19:14] <Loshki> ActionParsnip: where is the 'sound troubleshooting script?
[19:14] <ActionParsnip> gwern: that's why I'm getting you it
[19:15] <obiwan_> Zykotic-K9: it looks like mount doesn't have support for this particular image. nonetheless, it looks like brasero has support for it. so i'd like to burn that weird image from brasero to a 'common iso' that works with mount
[19:15] <abstrakt> what's a good tool/utility to simulate traffic?
[19:15] <abstrakt> I want to peg my site with like 5-10 requests per second for example
[19:15] <abstrakt> but want them to be semi-realistic requests, like a real web browser would make
[19:15] <ActionParsnip> gwern: Loshki: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[19:15] <Sjeban> could anyone help me here?
[19:15] <dpac_> abstrakt: ab
[19:15] <Sjeban> pvt please
[19:15] <gwern> abstrakt: ab is the usual choice
[19:15] <dpac_> abstrakt: it stands for apache benchmark
[19:15] <WhiteDawn> !ask | Sjeban
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> abstrakt: write a script to wget the main page then sleep for 5 seconds
[19:16] <Zykotic-K9> obiwan_, you can only use standard ISO files with the loop mount command (not sure what image type you are currently using?)
[19:16] <Sjeban> i have wireless problem in ubuntu 10.04
[19:16] <abstrakt> ActionParsnip: no that's a request every five seconds, I want five requests every second
[19:16] <abstrakt> I'm pretty sure linklint will do that
[19:16] <Roasted> why does removing tftp hate me? E: tftpd-hpa: subprocess installed post-removal script returned error exit status 1
[19:16] <gwern> ActionParsnip: I don't see any relevant scripts there
[19:16] <WhiteDawn> Sjeban, could you elaborate a little more please? Like what problems are you having, whats your wireless card, computer name if not custom......general stuff
[19:16] <dpac_> ActionParsnip: ab -c 5 -n 100 http://localhost/
[19:16] <abstrakt> gwern: dpac_, sudo apt-get install ab
[19:17] <abstrakt> no package found
[19:17] <VCoolio> Atlantic777: shouldn't the lockfile be in /var/lib or did you wipe that too? anyway, try "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[19:17] <abstrakt> sudo apt-get install .... ?
[19:17] <dpac_> ActionParsnip: Sorry, that was for abstrakt
[19:17] <dpac_> abstrakt: ab -c 5 -n 100 http://localhost/
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> dpac_: np :)
[19:17] <st__> why my sound card works when I modprobe it but not automatically?
[19:17] <abstrakt> dpac_: ok awesome thanks, so where do I find the package?
[19:17] <dpac_> abstrakt: install apache
[19:17] <abstrakt> oh nevermind there it is
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> gwern: the line starts with: wget
[19:18] <dpac_> abstrakt: sudo apt-get install apache2
[19:18] <Atlantic777> VCoolio, the /var/cache/apt is also deleted. I'll try with dpkg -reconfigure. Thanks!
[19:18] <Loshki> ActionParsnip: thanks, looking at it now...
[19:18] <dpac_> abstrakt: great
[19:18] <gwern> ActionParsnip, WhiteDawn: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=3927f67ff4ae4667ca9f3e62fa0c73baaea03a52
[19:18] <dpac_> abstrakt: n is total number of requests
[19:18] <dpac_> abstrakt: c is concurrency. man ab for more info
[19:19] <Roasted> why does removing tftp hate me? E: tftpd-hpa: subprocess installed post-removal script returned error exit status 1
[19:19] <Gaming4JC> Hey all, I've got a problem installing Lucid on a Compaq SR1901WM. LiveCD causes the monitor to turn off... any ideas?
[19:19] <ActionParsnip> Gwern: cd $HOME: wget http://alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh
[19:20] <gwern> ActionParsnip: ? didn't I just link you to the output of a successful run?
[19:20] <Galaxor> My usb drive keeps dropping out.  It'll just start hanging rather than returning data.  dmesg says this:  usb 2-3: reset high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 6
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> gwern: my browser is slow. My bad. The script was still on the page
[19:21] <Galaxor> I thought it was a problem that my external enclosure was broken, so I got a new external enclosure and a new cable.  It does the same thing.
[19:21]  * Gaming4JC assumes it's a graphics card issue with the internal NVIDIA GeForce 6150 LE
[19:21] <Gaming4JC> *googles*
[19:21] <Gaming4JC> :P
[19:21] <ActionParsnip> gwern: diver doesn't match the utilities loaded. If you add this ppa it will give you .23
[19:21] <krash> woot got driver from lexmark and it's working beautifully thanks again :)
[19:22] <intrader> Using gpartd I have made 18Gb available - how do I install 10.10 beta into this space?
[19:22] <Roasted> can anybody help me figure out why my tftp server is bombing out?
[19:22] <Pici> intrader : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Maverick/10.10 support/discussion.
[19:23] <intrader> Pici, thanks, I will do that
[19:23] <ActionParsnip> gwern: https://launchpad.net/~ricotz/+archive/unstable
[19:23] <Galaxor> Which of these is more likely the cause of my usb hangups?  a) Recent upgrade from 9.10 to 10.04.  b) Something wrong with usb hardware on the motherboard.  c) Electrical problems with the jack I'm plugged into?
[19:23] <ActionParsnip> intrader: boot to maverick cd and installjust like you would normally
[19:23] <Galaxor> Or d) something wrong with the drive inside the enclosure?
[19:23] <dossantos> a
[19:24] <ActionParsnip> krash: sweet. You got lucky
[19:24] <gwern> yes master I will install everything you tell me! all my boxen are urs :)
[19:24] <Galaxor> dossantos: Are there known problems and known solutions with this version?
[19:24] <obiwan_> Zykotic-K9: is a mac .cdr image. it's supposed to work by just renaming it to .iso. but it wont load. double clicking it loads brasero tho. brasero won't let me burn to the disk, and i haven't any other device to burn. so i thought i could simulate a loop device file so brasero can write to it.
[19:24] <ActionParsnip> gwern: later alsa may make it friendlier
[19:24] <gwern> we shall see. upgrading now
[19:24] <Galaxor> dossantos: Are there known problems and not known solutions with this problem?
[19:25] <Galaxor> dossantos: I was googling to see if there were bugs open about this, but I only found stuff from 2-3 years ago.
[19:25] <gwern> ActionParsnip: hm, is there something I should do afterwards to restart puleasudio?
[19:25] <ActionParsnip> obiwan_: in terminal if you run: file imagefileyouhave what is output? The file extension means very little
[19:25] <reidk> ignore -channels #mwsf
[19:25] <WhiteDawn> gwern, loging out and back in works
[19:25] <gwern> bleh
[19:25] <gwern> stupid pulseaudio
[19:25] <ActionParsnip> gwern: could be worth a go, sure. Or rebott to be super sure
[19:26] <ActionParsnip> gwern: its a weird creature. Lubuntu doesn't have it ;)
[19:26] <Galaxor> Anybody else have an idea?  Is there a known problem with the usb in ubuntu 10.04 that would cause my drive to hang up?
[19:26] <ActionParsnip> Galaxor: does it work for a while then hang?
[19:27] <obiwan_> ActionParsnip: rEFIt-0.14.cdr: data
[19:27] <Braber01> Hey I just ran my check-bios-nx --verbose and it gave me non working link "http:wiki.ubuntu.com/Security/CPUFeatures <--Doesn't lead any where where can I find that same information?
[19:27] <tomh_in_london_> Hi all, I'm having a problem switching between users.  Every time I try to switch using the "power-button" menu, the video display goes black with jagged lines of color.  I'm on a dell latitude D600 laptop running Ubuntu 10.04.  "lspci" says: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV250 [Mobility FireGL 9000] (rev 02).  I can press ctrl+F7 to get back to my user account.  Any ideas?  Thanks!
[19:27] <obiwan_> ActionParsnip: if i rename it to .iso i get the same. r.....iso: data
[19:27] <gwern> ActionParsnip: no, that ppa upgrade doesn't seem to have helped
[19:27] <ActionParsnip> obiwan_: hmm, you may need to convert it then, its only seen as. Raw data, not a cd image
[19:28] <ActionParsnip> gwern: bah, well you have the latest alsa now which should help some
[19:28] <Roasted> can anybody help me figure out why my tftp server is bombing out?
[19:28] <ActionParsnip> Roasted: check its logs would be my first port of call
[19:29] <obiwan_> yeah ActionParsnip but brasero reads it as iso file, and gives me the option to burn it. if only i could cheat him with a file as the destination device, i could make a iso file from the output data
[19:29] <dwarder> can i use right mouse button drag to scroll?
[19:29] <Roasted> ActionParsnip, well I nuked all of the tftp info because I did a complete removal of it in order to try an dget it working again. are tftp logs kept in the tftp folder??
[19:30] <coz_> hey guys...anyone haveing font rendering issues after last kernel update?
[19:30] <tgywa> hello
[19:30] <k4r4mb4> guys how many ips are in this network range 10.10.0.0/17 ? I'm looking to find out the last ip - obviously the first is 10.10.0.0
[19:31] <tgywa> am running Ubuntu 10.04.1 LTS with 2.6.35-22-server backported Kernel from Marvik
[19:31] <ActionParsnip> k4r4mb4: the first ip is 10.10.0.1, 10.10.0.0 is the network
[19:31] <k4r4mb4> and the last one?
[19:31] <ActionParsnip> k4r4mb4: ask in #networking this is ubuntu support ONLY
[19:31] <k4r4mb4> ok
[19:32] <Gaming4JC> I assume this will resolve my monitor issue... http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-336495.html
[19:32] <Gaming4JC> there's a problem, I don't have access to a network to install nividia packages
[19:32] <Gaming4JC> xD
[19:32] <dormente> xD
[19:32] <ActionParsnip> Gaming4JC: then you need toget a connection
[19:32] <tgywa> but can't shutdown with command line
[19:33] <tgywa> any idea?
[19:33] <dormente> What's the error?
[19:34] <dormente> shutdown -h now
[19:34] <Gaming4JC> hmm mine? Monitor keeps borking out ^^
[19:34] <Roasted> When you go to a network server and you log in, where is that info saved? My password changed and I had set my links to those file servers as permanently remember.
[19:34] <Gaming4JC> as soon as LiveCD boots the sucker turns right off
[19:34] <Gaming4JC> xP
[19:34] <Gaming4JC> I would have thought lucid could support Nvidia out of the box
[19:34] <Gaming4JC> but it failz D:
[19:34] <Gaming4JC> Sabayon supports it
[19:34] <Gaming4JC> xD
[19:35] <mattgyver> Gaming4JC, maybe try a different graphics mode option in grub?
[19:35] <LordDragon> ok so now i got mplayer working, but vlc wont install
[19:35] <dormente> Try the stuff on the link you pasted here
[19:35] <dormente> Try the safe mode
[19:35] <Gaming4JC> matthyver: I would but it hasn't even installed. Can't make it to the installer from LiveCD
[19:35] <Gaming4JC> :/
[19:36] <mattgyver> Gaming4JC, I think you can still supply the boot option to the live cd by like pressing tab if i remember
[19:36] <Roasted> When you go to a network server and you log in, where is that info saved? My password changed and I had set my links to those file servers as permanently remember.
[19:36] <b0ot> if I enable remote desktop connection in ubuntu 10.04 how would I access the desktop in windows
[19:36] <mattgyver> Gaming4JC, oh wait n/m, thats not showing.
[19:36] <Gaming4JC> mattgyver: If that's possible that would be useful...
[19:36] <XIII1> hi
[19:36] <tomh_in_london_> Hi all, I'm having a problem switching between users.  Every time I try to switch using the "power-button" menu, the video display goes black with jagged lines of color.  I'm on a dell latitude D600 laptop running Ubuntu 10.04.  "lspci" says: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV250 [Mobility FireGL 9000] (rev 02).  I can press ctrl+F7 to get back to my user account.  Any ideas?  Thanks!
[19:36] <Gaming4JC> !greet | XIII1
[19:37] <mattgyver> Gaming4JC, it would be possible if you could see the initial screen where it says like 'try ubuntu' or 'install ubuntu' but you dont get that right?
[19:37] <Gaming4JC> !welcome XIII1
[19:37] <Gaming4JC> xD
[19:37] <LordDragon> im trying to install vlc and i get this error
[19:37] <LordDragon> http://pastebin.com/MM69Cesp
[19:37] <Gaming4JC> mattgyver: I make it to this screen, but as soon as I click install ubuntu, or try ubuntu it turns off monitor
[19:38] <XIII1> Gaming4JC: Why did you pu a "!"
[19:38] <XIII1> ,
[19:38] <XIII1> PUT*
[19:38] <mattgyver> Gaming4JC, yeah try pressing tab before selecting any of those options and I think you can set like the vesa driver option, worth a shot
[19:38] <Gaming4JC> !greet XIII1
[19:38] <Gaming4JC> :)
[19:38] <Gaming4JC> err
[19:38] <Gaming4JC> there's a ubottu welcome message
[19:38] <Gaming4JC> xP
[19:38] <b0ot> !remote desktop
[19:38] <jrib> LordDragon: and you have no idea why?  Didn't install .deb or use unofficial repos?
[19:38] <Gaming4JC> mattgyvver: will do thanks :)
[19:39] <b0ot> !vnc
[19:39] <XIII1> I have an aver tv volar black tuner. I am trying to make it work on ubuntu 10.04. I installed the driver in the system->hardware driver list. But it doesnot work. The tuner stay black (no light)
[19:39] <mattgyver> Gaming4JC, yeah sometimes using noapic works too but i dont know if thats useful for this scenario
[19:39] <dwarder> is it possible to use middle mouse as a scroll like in windows
[19:40] <Gaming4JC> mattgyver: Decided to tweak the internals a bit before I boot it up again, I'll let you know if it works in a bit. ^^
[19:40] <LordDragon> jrib, well what happens is this, when i install the latest vlc from a 3rd party source, it breaks mplayer, when i repair mplayer by removing the 3rd party vlc and reinstalling, i cant install the official one from ubuntu universe repo. i get the rror in that pastebin
[19:40] <st__> why my sound card works when I modprobe it but not automatically?
[19:41] <dormente> Can't you install both from official repos?
[19:41] <jrib> LordDragon: what exactly is this 3rd party source?  Also, pastebin the output of: apt-cache policy vlc vlc-nox libvlccore2 vlc-plugin-pulse
[19:41] <b0ot> Can someone explain to me how the remote desktop option would work that is built into ubuntu 10.04 over your own network?
[19:41] <XIII1> Gaming4JC: ok !
[19:41] <mattgyver> st__, just add it to /etc/modprobe and it will modprobe it on start ;)  (it might be modprobe.conf i dont remember)
[19:41] <XIII1> Anyone has an idea ?
[19:41] <LordDragon> jrib, 3rd party source is http://ppa.launchpad.net/n-muench/vlc/ubuntu
[19:41] <b0ot> I want to connect my windows xp pc to view my ubuntu 10.04
[19:42] <mobasher> b0ot> use tightVNC
[19:42] <mobasher> !tightvnc
[19:42] <ir1844__> whats up fellow linuxtsters
[19:42] <der-eremit> LordDragon probably you should check out ppa-purge. it will remove the 3rd-party version and downgrade to the official one
[19:42] <dormente> wtf
[19:42] <rocket16> How to install TWinView in 10.04?
[19:42] <st__> actually it's /etc/modprobe.d and it's a directory o_O
[19:42] <ir1844__> what is twinvies
[19:42] <b0ot> mobasher, what is wrong with the built in remote desktop
[19:42] <ir1844__> twinview
[19:42] <Roasted_> why does gnome suck at remembering the position of my items in the top panel?
[19:43] <XIII1> mobasher: why nothing happened when you type : !tightvnc ?
[19:43] <LordDragon> jrib, here is the output: http://pastebin.com/uc03mJBX
[19:43] <rocket16> ir1844__: A tool for dual-monitors in NVidia.
[19:43] <LordDragon> der-eremit, how do i do that?
[19:43] <mobasher> XIII1 >> not sure mate :)
[19:43] <rocket16> How to run dual monitors in Ubuntu with NVidia card?
[19:43] <mobasher> b0ot>> try it out and see if that works..never tried that
[19:44] <jrib> LordDragon: sudo apt-get install libvlccore2    and repeat
[19:44] <mobasher> XIII1 >> bot is sleeping :)
[19:44] <ubunciaka> hellp
[19:44] <ubunciaka> hello
[19:44] <mobasher> hello
[19:44] <rocket16> !twinview
[19:44] <XIII1> mobasher: ok :)
[19:44] <der-eremit> LordDragon http://www.webupd8.org/2010/04/ppa-purge-now-available-via-getdeb.html
[19:45] <mobasher> XIII1 >> acutally it sent me a private message..maybe has to do with how i'm connecting to the channel
[19:45] <LordDragon> jrib, i tried that. got this
[19:45] <XIII1> mobasher: ah ok !
[19:45] <LordDragon> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[19:45] <LordDragon>   libvlccore2: Depends: vlc-data (= 1.0.6-1ubuntu1.2) but 1.1.4-1u1~ppa2 is to be installed
[19:45] <jrib> LordDragon: apt-cache policy vlc-data
[19:46] <st__> what is modprobe's file syntax? i don;t get it
[19:47] <llutz> st__: modprobe <modulename>
[19:47] <XIII1> mobasher: what are the rules on this type of chennel. When I ask a question and nobody answers, have to ask it again ? What is the best ?
[19:47] <Sarajevo> guess what
[19:47] <Sarajevo> I hate linux
[19:47] <Sarajevo> thx
[19:47] <st__> llutz, files in /etc/modprobe.d i meant
[19:47] <mattgyver> st__, unless your talking about the /etc/modprobe file, you just will put the name of the module (if modprobe snd-hda-intel you put snd-hda-intel)
[19:47] <ejv> linux hates you! :D
[19:47] <dormente> On the modprobe.conf, you write "alias modulename"
[19:48] <Roasted_> When I connect to a networked file server, I have to log in. I saved my credentials permanently, however they have changed. Where are those settings saved at so I can alter them?
[19:48] <Gaming4JC> ejv: loll xD
[19:48] <VCoolio> XIII1: ask again in 5 minutes or so; repeat the whole question, memory span is short here ;)
[19:48] <Karen_m> can anyone help me figure out my sound issue?  on one reboot it works, another it doesn't.  The only thing that seems to trigger anything is if my headphones are plugged in or not.  How do I disable hot-sensing jacks or auto-sensing jacks?
[19:48] <xbonesx> I installed ubuntu-restricted-extras, can i install the most recent releases of java and flash in ubuntu?
[19:48] <chris|> st__, see `man modprobe.conf`
[19:48] <st__> why are you kkeping to name it modprobe.conf when it's not anymore?
[19:48] <XIII1> VCoolio: Thanks for the protocole
[19:49] <xbonesx> If i go to the java website it says im out of date???
[19:49] <dormente> k
[19:49] <dormente> sorry about that
[19:49] <mattgyver> xbonesx, yeah you have to make sure you have the partner repo enabled though
[19:49] <dormente> What's its name now?
[19:49] <LordDragon> jrib!!! got it. that was the sucker. vlc-data never got uninstalled when i did apt-get remove vlc. and it was the latest 1.1.4 version. removed it manually and now 1.0.6 installs fine. i really wish i could have the latest vlc but it seems it wont work with mplayer
[19:49] <xbonesx> mattgyver: could you help me with that please?
[19:50] <peterfa> I just noticed that in GRUB I have a new kernel that has an extension in the title of the menu item than the other kernels. I use the default kernel. What is new about this kernel that it has a different title from the others?
[19:50] <dormente> What does vlc have to do with mplayer?
[19:50] <dormente> They share dependecies?
[19:50] <joajimenez> Xbonesx: You can download the latest version of Java troghu their page
[19:50] <dormente> *do they
[19:50] <st__> ok I read manual but it not say how to put a modile to be probed automatically
[19:50] <mattgyver> xbonesx, System>Software Sources>Other Software> check http://archive.canonical.com/ lucid partner
[19:50] <joajimenez> They have Win, Mac and Linux version
[19:51] <llutz> st__: you want to force loading of a module?
[19:51] <st__> llutz, seems i have to as I must probe it manually now
[19:51] <llutz> st__: add modulename to /etc/modules
[19:52] <billur_p>  alltray -p 3052 command is not working for me :( it gives this error : AllTray: Failed to execute child process "-p" (No such file or directory) . but on "man alltray" writes that we can use alltray with ProcessID with "alltrays -p PID" command. can someone please help me ?
[19:52] <tgywa> can I copy the content of a mounted directory ... to the local machine
[19:52] <tgywa> ??
[19:52] <tgywa> can I copy the content of a mounted directory ... to the local machine??
[19:52] <xbonesx> mattgyver: k its checked... and reloaded... now what?
[19:52] <mattgyver> xbonesx, after it reloads you can install the sun-java6-jre, sun-java6-plugin, and flashplugin-nonfree packages
[19:52] <marcin> Hi everyone, I've got a little problem. I want to record my voice on linux ubuntu 10.04 but after recording there's a lot of hmm "bees:P" in my record. I can't hear anything... How can i make it to have a clear voice record? :)
[19:53] <dormente> tgywv, yes
[19:53] <dormente> *tgywa
[19:53] <DroneWork> get the bees away from your microphone
[19:53] <sandyd> marcin: if you actually want to get a good recording, get a condensor microphone
[19:53] <SirronTM> hi all, has ~/.fonts.conf been replaced with something? If so, what? (trying to disable embedded bitmaps in fonts so that Calibri looks right in Word via Wine)
[19:53] <sandyd> marcin: its a common issue on laptops (if your using one) because of the fans of the coputer
[19:54] <xbonesx> mattgyver: for the flashplugin-nonfree... i already have the flashplug-installer, installed???
[19:55] <no--name> need help with make error: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/502267/
[19:55] <marcin> yes, maybe it's a problem, I've got a laptop. Ok I'll try on MAC with the same microphone. Big thanks ;)
[19:55] <Ken8521> sandyd, how come it doesn't effect skype?  I use skype w/ a mic and it works fabulously
[19:55] <dormente> Good thinking
[19:56] <sandyd> ken8521: what br are you using for the recording, and what format?
[19:56] <Ken8521> nevermind, i see what was said now, i misread it
[19:57] <dwarder> which flash plugin should i install for FF
[19:57] <dwarder> ?
[19:57] <billur_p>  alltray -p 3052 command is not working for me :( it gives this error : AllTray: Failed to execute child process "-p" (No such file or directory) . but on "man alltray" writes that we can use alltray with ProcessID with "alltrays -p PID" command. can someone please help me ?
[19:57] <dwarder> from adobe?
[19:57] <dwarder> or gnash
[19:57] <dwarder> or sfwdec
[19:57] <WhiteDawn> dwarder, if all flash things u use is youtube, use gnash
[19:57] <sandyd> dwarder: adobe
[19:57] <WhiteDawn> dwarder, otherwise adobe
[19:57] <sandyd> dwarder: u using 64bit ubuntu?
[19:57] <dwarder> thank you
[19:57] <dwarder> sandyd: 32
[19:58] <sandyd> dwarder: good. you don't need to manually install the 64bit plugin.
[19:58] <dwarder> :)
[19:58] <epicon> .
[20:00] <billur_p> :'(
[20:00] <XIII1> I have an aver tv volar black tuner. I am trying to make it work on ubuntu 10.04. I installed the driver in the system->hardware driver list. But it doesnot work. The tuner stay black (no light)
[20:00] <no--name> need help with make error: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/502267/
[20:00] <Sjeban> how can i redo the update for my wireless driver ???
[20:00] <Sjeban> 'cause it doesn't work anymore
[20:00] <sandyd> Sjeban: what driver
[20:00] <TeacherTomL> Hi all.  I have been pulling my hair out to find a listing of the meanings of the colors in a bash "ls" command.  I know that green is an program file, blue a folder, but I cannot find a listing of the other colors and their meaning.  Anybody have a link?
[20:00] <sandyd> Sjeban: broadcom?
[20:01] <cordoval> test
[20:01] <cordoval> I am back
[20:01] <tgywa> Hi ... how can I check the history of the whole system ...instead of history of a single user ... of Ubuntu 10.04?
[20:01] <peterfa> tgywa: /var/log/*
[20:02] <Typh> TeacherTomL: these have always been a mystery to me too.
[20:02] <mobasher> TeacherTomL: i think light blue is the for the symbolic links
[20:02] <mattgyver> tgywa, not entirely sure how to do all ... how many users are on the system, too many to just cat the files together?
[20:03] <mattgyver> tgywa, .bash_history files*
[20:03] <Sjeban> atheros ar5001
[20:03] <jrib> TeacherTomL: http://paste.ubuntu.com/502270/ is the default stuff (see dircolors-related stuff in coreutils source
[20:03] <TeacherTomL> Thanks Typh.  I find a lot of pages showing me how to change the colors, but no listing of default colors.
[20:03] <panfist> i wanted to alt-middleclick to resize a window and it accidentally zoomed in extremely...how do i zoom out again
[20:03] <tgywa> peterfa, should I tail or what /var/log/* ???
[20:03] <jrib> TeacherTomL: ah, actually you can just: dircolors -p
[20:03] <sandyd> Sjeban: post output of "lsmod" to pastebin
[20:04] <AlexzAK> hi, all! There is a "bug teams" irc channel on freenode?
[20:04] <jrib> AlexzAK: #ubuntu-bugs
[20:04] <TeacherTomL> jrib:  I am not seeing it.  Is there a listing of default colors on this page?
[20:04] <jrib> TeacherTomL: yes, scroll down
[20:04] <VCoolio> TeacherTomL: http://pastie.org/1187148
[20:07] <TeacherTomL> UCoolio;  I am still not getting it.  Lists colors, but not their meaning.  I am looking for something like:  green - Program  Blue - Folder, ets
[20:08] <jrib> TeacherTomL: read what I pastebinned :/
[20:08] <awdafgfaaa> here is my rndc.conf : http://pastebin.com/zwa6QbBp  and here is my my rndc.key source http://pastebin.com/P5Mrfwac
[20:08] <awdafgfaaa> and this is in my named.conf :  http://pastebin.com/HygjiMyv
[20:08] <awdafgfaaa> and  rndc -c /var/chroot/named/etc/bind/rndc.conf -s 127.0.0.1 -p 953 status
[20:08] <awdafgfaaa> prints this error http://pastebin.com/k21gYQ4M   please help me figure out whats wrong
[20:08] <FloodBot4> awdafgfaaa: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:09] <Karen_m> can anyone help me figure out my sound issue?  on one reboot it works, another it doesn't.  The only thing that seems to trigger anything is if my headphones are plugged in or not.  How do I disable hot-sensing jacks or auto-sensing jacks?
[20:09] <TeacherTomL> jrib:  I went to: http://pastie.org/1187148 but just see a list of colors and numbers.  Maybe I am missing something
[20:09] <jrib> TeacherTomL: that's not my link
[20:09] <dwarder> anyone was able to install adobe photoshop cs4 on ubuntu wine?
[20:09] <mattgyver> TeacherTomL, hey theres also a graphic too here which might help; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ls#Behavior it looks like most of the colors too
[20:10] <jrib> TeacherTomL: I also said you can do: dircolors -p
[20:10] <zamba> i'm looking for a program that's going to be used internally by a newspaper to organize the thousands of images they take every year.. i need a way to tag the images, so that they can be easily searched for.. doesn't need to be a web application, but it really needs to be fast.. it also needs to run on a central server, where a set of users are able to upload new images easily
[20:11] <sirninja> I'm about to do a fresh install of ubuntu, but I need a proprietary driver for my wireless, where do I go to download a .deb so I can install it?
[20:11] <trijntje> !wine | dwarder
[20:11] <TeacherTomL> Tried dircolors -p.  I get a long list of output.  I am still missing something.
[20:11] <Ken8521> sirninja, whats your wireless device
[20:11] <ninjai> is there any way I can create a progress bar which measures the est completion time of a given command?
[20:11] <dwarder> !virtualizers
[20:11] <Gaming4JC> !ndiswrapper |  sirninja
[20:11] <jrib> TeacherTomL: read the output...
[20:11] <ninjai> from the CLI that is
[20:11] <sirninja> Ken8521: broadcom
[20:12] <Ken8521> sirninja, there's a couple different broadcom chipsets
[20:12] <sirninja> I need the package bcmwl-kernel-source
[20:12] <Ken8521> sirninja, that should be on the live cd if i recall correctl
[20:12] <sirninja> that's what I installed to get it working.. I just won't have an internet connection this time
[20:12] <Ken8521> no internet connection required
[20:12] <karlo94> what do this option when you click right click on desktop "Clean Up by Name" ?
[20:12] <Ken8521> !broadcom | sirninja
[20:12] <dwarder> !AppDB
[20:13] <sirninja> is there a place I can download the .deb?
[20:13] <sirninja> just in case it isn't on the cd?
[20:13] <jrib> sirninja: packages.ubuntu.com
[20:13] <Ken8521> sirninja, you shouldn't need the deb.. iirc, it's on the CD, so just apt-get it
[20:13] <sirninja> I'll try that first, but just in case that doesn't work, I need a backup plan
[20:13] <sirninja> I don't want to be stuck without internet
[20:14] <Ken8521> sirninja, look at that link i gave you, and there's "b43/STA - No Internet Access" it tells you how to do it.
[20:15] <sirninja> Ken8521: didn't see that part.. that's exactly what I need
[20:15] <tigertv69> hey guys.. how can i do multipart downloading with lftp
[20:15] <dwarder> !QEmu
[20:15] <tigertv69> ?
[20:15] <sirninja> Ken8521: now that broadcom is making it open source, hopefully this is the last time I'll have to do this. :P
[20:16] <Ken8521> sirninja, hopefully... i'm fortunate, all atheros here.. so they just work
[20:16] <SharkWipf> So, anyone got the time to help me get my Ubuntu back up?
[20:16] <Phu> before I start looking at the most arcane of google searches... does anyone have a quick tip on getting ip6tables TPROXY support onto an ubuntu system?
[20:17] <fake51> evening, quick question on setting screen output: if I ssh into my ubuntu machine, can I start a process (like vlc) and have it output to it's sent to it's own screen? how would I go about that?
[20:17] <root__> how can I crack an email address's password
[20:17] <sirninja> fake51: what do you mean its own screen?
[20:18] <fake51> sirninja, I mean ssh into a machine and have the output from vlc sent to the machines video card (the tv out, to be specific)
[20:18] <mobasher> fake51:  you can install tightVNC and view it remotely if that's what u're asking ?
[20:18] <Daniel> how can I edit .mod sounds?
[20:18] <sirninja> fake51: do you know if that output is it's own X display?
[20:19] <SharkWipf> I just did a clean install of Ubuntu 9.04, and installed the videodrivers (ATI 5600) and upgraded the kernel. Now all I get is a black screen, and it only responds to my powerbutton (shows boot splash and shuts down). Any suggestions?
[20:19] <sirninja> fake51: like :0 or :1?
[20:19] <fake51> mobasher, vnc might be the answer, thanks
[20:19] <mobasher> !tightvnc | fake51
[20:19] <fake51> sirninja, I don't know, but was thinking of playing with setting display options to see if that got me anywhere
[20:19] <sirninja> fake51: are you wanting the output to be on the same machine you're sshing into?
[20:19] <mobasher> fake51: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC
[20:19] <dwarder> to run windows xp on my latest stable ubuntu, what should i chose ? !QEmu (with !KQemu), !VirtualBox, !VMWare ?
[20:20] <dwarder> speed is important
[20:20] <fake51> sirninja, yeah, the machine I'm ssh'ing into has a gfx card with tv out, hence I want to use it as a media center server
[20:20] <mobasher> dwarder: i used virutalbox...played pretty nice
[20:20] <sirninja> fake51: vnc isn't what you want then
[20:20] <Phu> dwarder: I'm inclined to agree. VirtualBox runs well.
[20:20] <fake51> virtualbox is sweet
[20:20] <dwarder> ohh, cool, i used vmware a little
[20:20]  * Ken8521 is a happy vbox user
[20:21] <Phu> so anyone here played with ip6tables ?
[20:21] <SharkWipf> Anyone? (<SharkWipf> I just did a clean install of Ubuntu 9.04, and installed the videodrivers (ATI 5600) and upgraded the kernel. Now all I get is a black screen, and it only responds to my powerbutton (shows boot splash and shuts down). Any suggestions?)
[20:21] <fake51> sirninja, what about setting the display environment var and kicking off vlc, would that work? ... I'll go test that, actually, smarter than asking ;)
[20:22] <sirninja> fake51: I'm not sure what the ideal way to do that would be, but if you find out what X display it is, you can do the command "export DISPLAY=:0" or whatever the display is to make applications start on that display
[20:22] <Phu> even a suggestion on how to install experimental ip6tables modules would be good...
[20:22] <fake51> sirninja, thanks, I'll test that
[20:22] <sirninja> fake51: that command I just gave you should make it start on its main screen... maybe try changing :0 to :1 or something, but I'm not sure
[20:23] <mobasher> SharkWipf: what kernel did you upgrade to ?
[20:23] <SharkWipf> hmm, the newest? :)
[20:23] <SharkWipf> I didn't even see it, just standard update
[20:24] <jags> hey, anyone try any of these dj programs in linux, I see a long list of apps, anyone have a recommendation?
[20:24] <dwarder> mobasher: Phu: Ken8521: what do you use your virtual windows box for?
[20:24] <Phu> dwarder: trying out OSes that I don't want to install permanently.
[20:25] <Ken8521> dwarder, i use Linux as a host, but I test stuff in Vbox all the time.. the only "mainstay" in Vbox for me, is XP.. cuz i use it to sync my zune
[20:25] <mobasher> SharkWipf: hahaha...right...i think there is that problem out there cuz there are some changes in the kernel which is interconnected with gdm in newer kernels unlike old school 9.04 where gdm and kernel runs seperately
[20:25] <Atlantic777> What's the easiest way to get glib >= 2.25.9 and gtk+ >= 2.22?
[20:25] <mobasher> dwarder: for virutalization
[20:25] <cordoval> register animos77 cordoval@gmail.com
[20:26] <mobasher> dwarder: u can run multiple OS's on one PC (virtual OS)
[20:26] <cordoval> how do I register my nick?
[20:26] <zamba> cordoval: this is not #ubuntu-related
[20:26] <zamba> cordoval: /msg nickserv help
[20:27] <IdleOne> !register > cordoval
[20:27] <cordoval> yes but the nickserv is replaced with #ubuntu right?
[20:27] <Phu> cordoval: i wouldn't have thought so.
[20:27] <zamba> cordoval: read the private message
[20:27] <mobasher> SharkWipf: you may want to boot into the shell and try to do a gdm --reconfigure and see if it works..otherwize...go back to the solid kernel which works i would recommend and stick with stability
[20:28] <cordoval> ok sorry will read the private message
[20:28] <Phu> anyone available yet familiar with installing ip6tables targets?
[20:28] <SharkWipf> I can't even get to the shell, even with recov mode
[20:29] <dwarder> mobasher: well, what windows appl do you run in your box? are you satisfied with using it in virtual box?
[20:29] <james__> hello anyone here
[20:29] <james__> ?
[20:29] <ejv> !ask | james__
[20:29] <james__> can anyone help me
[20:29] <james__> ?
[20:29] <Ken8521> dwarder, why wouldn't you be?... it's just like running it on Windows?
[20:30] <mr_chris> Just had my first encounter with FloodBot. Spam problem lately?
[20:30] <ejv> no, just don't flood...
[20:30] <mobasher> dwarder: in virtualbox i'm running gentoo, mint, windows 7, windows xp, and debian...ahh yes if i'm running so many i must be satisfied :)
[20:30] <james__> I want to make my user account have full root privileges so I do not have to keep putting in my password to do things
[20:30] <james__> and so I dont have to keep typing "sudo"
[20:30] <james__> I know the risks
[20:30] <ovy> new kernel, works great
[20:31] <Ken8521> james__, don't do that
[20:31] <james__> I want to please help me
[20:31] <ejv> james__: sudo vi /etc/sudoers
[20:31] <chrisdev> NO!!!
[20:31] <agentgasmask> Don't!
[20:31] <dwarder> mobasher: :)
[20:31] <erry> I'm trying to fix filesystem folders on a fat32 disk and heres what it does http://pastebin.com/gBx070CW doesn't seem to fix anything
[20:31] <mobasher> dwarder: ;-)
[20:31] <erry> i used fsck.vfat^
[20:32] <Ken8521> james__, if you're goin to just enable "always on root" you might as well use Windows... you take away the very thing that makes Linux more secure
[20:32] <ejv> james__: uncomment  %group        ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL
[20:32] <tweak> hi. i used a command to add a ppa. what is the reverse of that? a command to remove a ppa
[20:32] <ejv> james__: then save and try to escalate local priveleges
[20:33] <Ken8521> tweak, just look in system/admin/software sources.. then click the "other software" tab... you shoudl be able to tell what repository it is you added, highlight it and click remove....
[20:33] <mobasher> tweak: http://bigbrovar.aoizora.org/index.php/2010/01/10/how-to-safely-remove-ppa-repository-from-ubuntu/
[20:33] <james__> how do I escalate privs?
[20:33] <ejv> james__: just `sudo -i`
[20:33] <Ken8521> ejv, you really shouldn't be telling him how to do this.
[20:33] <ejv> james__: im essentially telling you to test it
[20:33] <ejv> Ken8521: and why not?
[20:33] <Ken8521> ...
[20:33] <mr_chris> james__: That's fine if it's just you. Just please don't do this if you install Ubuntu for others.
[20:34] <james__> Alright I did that but it still isnt letting me doing things without typing in sudo first
[20:34] <ejv> Ken8521: there's a perfectly plausible reason to do it
[20:34] <mobasher> james__: just do sudo su
[20:34] <erry> help someone plz
[20:34] <erry> :(
[20:35] <erry> james__, sudo -i
[20:35] <james__> theres more to it...
[20:35] <ejv> james__: what group is your user in? %group could be %admin or %wheel or %whatever
[20:35] <mobasher> erry: whas up
[20:35] <Dynetrekk> hi. I've got a xubuntu box behind my adsl modem. how can I give the xubuntu box a fixed ip? (typically 10.0.0.4)
[20:35] <james__> james
[20:35] <erry> mobasher, i explained few lines up
[20:35] <james__> I and I did that
[20:35] <erry> 14:34 < erry> I'm trying to fix filesystem folders on a fat32 disk and heres what it does http://pastebin.com/gBx070CW doesn't seem to fix anything
[20:35] <ejv> james__, hmm not sure what you're doing wrong then
[20:35] <mr_chris> Dynetrekk: Either set it based on your mac address in your router or do as this says http://codesnippets.joyent.com/posts/show/319
[20:35] <james__> hmm alright
[20:35] <james__> thanks anyways
[20:36] <mobasher> erry: sorry buddy not my cup of tea :)
[20:36] <agentgasmask> Dynetrekk: Fixed as in static for the LAN?
[20:36] <erry> :(
[20:36] <ejv> james__: verify the membership of your user, verify that you edited /etc/sudoers correctly.
[20:36] <ejv> james__: then logout and log back in, and test escalating.
[20:36] <mr_chris> Dynetrekk: After you make the change either enter "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart" or just reboot to make it take effect.
[20:37] <Dynetrekk> agentgasmask: static for the LAN sounds right
[20:38] <agentgasmask> Dynetrekk: you need to edit the /etc/network/interfaces file to use a static ip, ie. not request one from the DHCP server on your router/modem. I'll see if I can find an easy how-to real quick...
[20:39] <ejv> just tossing this out there, but in the spirit of support when someone comes in here saying they understand the risks of lifting a certain protection mechanism, just tell them how to do it, don't tell them the risks when they know it's risky... that just aggravates people... lol
[20:40] <Phu> anyone available yet familiar with installing ip6tables targets?
[20:40] <mobasher> ejv: lol
[20:40] <ejv> </end rant>
[20:40] <akoimeexx> Hey all. I'm running Ubuntu 10.04 server on a powerpc, and I've been trying to get it to run sound through the speaker in the case (Not the PC 'beep' speaker). However, mpg321 and mpg123 refuse to play, citing a sound error. Looks like libao isn't installed and isn't available, but libao2 is (and s installed by default). Any thoughts?
[20:40] <akoimeexx> Ish, block 'o text. >.o
[20:41] <TomatoIN> Hello! I am trying to install ubuntu on a VAIO. But the CD cannot boot.. what is wrong?
[20:41] <ejv> TomatoIN: you played with the BIOS and enabled booting from the CD?
[20:41] <bobstro> ejv:  there was a  guy two days ago who'd done similar and had been rooted. he was blaming ubuntu for not being as secure as claimed.
[20:41] <mobasher> TomatoIN: check the boot settings of the vaio to see if it's booting off the CD or maybe your Cd didn't get burned properly
[20:42] <TomatoIN> ejv, yes I did but nothing
[20:42] <TomatoIN> mobasher, the CD is fine burned
[20:42] <ejv> TomatoIN: hmm dunno, just mentioned the obvious :)
[20:42] <mobasher> TomatoIN: well either u boot or either you don't there is not third option to it
[20:42] <bobstro> ejv:  i basically agree with our sentiment, but a few 'are you sure's are a good thing.
[20:42] <ejv> bobstro: sure :)
[20:43] <TomatoIN> ejv, mobaster thank you both :)
[20:43] <mobasher> TomatoIN: no worries mate :)
[20:43] <bobstro> ejv:  will those sudoer changes affect the gui apps?
[20:44] <AndChat|> Tomato. No external drives plugged in? No phone? No thumb drive?
[20:44] <andrewaclt> What's the current kernel in lucid?
[20:44] <mobasher> AndChat|: he's gone homes :)
[20:44] <Pici> !info linux | andrewaclt
[20:44] <ejv> bobstro: i'm assuming his instance of his desktop manager is running as his normal user, so i'd say, no, marginal impact at best.
[20:44] <zax1> probably not the place... but has any one heard about the ACS: Law story ? i am on the pirates bay and the torrent seem to be seeded but i can not download it. any one heard of any fight back ?
[20:44] <AndChat|> Phone typing is too slow ;)
[20:45] <erry> ;(
[20:45] <andrewaclt> Pici, Does it not have ubuntu specific patches?
[20:45] <erry> Anyone help me recover a folder
[20:45] <bobstro> ejv:  reason i'm asking is that normally sudo doesn't require re-auth until timeout, yet he says he was 'constantly' having to enter password.
[20:45] <Pici> !piracy | zax1
[20:45] <mobasher> AndChat|: lol...and even slower if you have an iphone lmao
[20:45] <Pici> andrewaclt: It does.
[20:46] <andrewaclt> Pici, so I should sudo apt-get linux if I want to revert my kernel?
[20:46] <zax1> pici you are quick to type not to understand
[20:46] <akoimeexx> Anyone have an idea on how to get libao set up on a Mac G4?
[20:46] <akoimeexx> Running 10.04 server?
[20:46] <bolat> Hey guys! Please give me some advice on where I can find driver for VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. CN700/P4M800 Pro/P4M800 CE/VN800 [S3 UniChrome Pro] (rev 01) ?
[20:46] <bolat> I want 3D
[20:46] <Pici> andrewaclt: That will pull in the current generic kernel image for your arch
[20:47] <Pici> zax1: Then what you're asking is offtopic, try #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:47] <ejv> bobstro: yea although when I'm running in screen, the auth doesn't follow seperate terminal instances, so having to constantly use sudo and auth can be a pain, im a power user though god knows what his setup was
[20:47] <TomatoIN> Hello again, updated question. When I try to boot from a CD on a VAIO the laptop starts reading the CD-ROM but after awhile it boots Windows. Why?
[20:47] <andrewaclt> Pici, I installed a mainline kernel to test some intel driver stuff. If I just install the old kernel will it automatically use the other installed kernel?
[20:48] <TomatoIN> I can hear the CD drive working
[20:48] <andrewaclt> Pici, *If I uninstall the new kernel
[20:48] <akoimeexx> CD might not have burned as bootable. What'd you burn it with?
[20:48] <ejv> TomatoIN: did you burn the image as a readable ISO?
[20:48] <akoimeexx> @TomatoIN
[20:48] <Pici> andrewaclt: You'll need to remove the mainline ppa and reinstall the linux-image package.
[20:48] <TomatoIN> ejv, yes and I also tried in another laptop and works fine. I also tried external CD drive and I get the same result with the particular VAIO
[20:48] <mattgyver> TomatoIN, is bios set to boot from CD, and the boot priority right?
[20:49] <ejv> TomatoIN: shake your fist at Sony :)
[20:49] <cyb3r3li0g> Erry if you are still arround, try running dosfsck in non-interactive mode (add a -y to your command), this should automatically deal with the issues you are seeing
[20:49] <TomatoIN> mattgyver, yes everything is set right
[20:49] <Phu> anyone available yet familiar with installing ip6tables targets?
[20:50] <ulrichard_> Hi guys, I wrote an application that runs fine when I run it from the commandline or a script. But if I try to run it from cron, I get this: "critical error : basic_string::_S_construct NULL not valid".
[20:50] <mattgyver> TomatoIN, maybe try a slower burn
[20:51] <AndyGraybeal> how do i find how fast my processor speed is?
[20:51] <TomatoIN> mattgyver, Ill try that since the boot CD cannot be seen when I boot on Windows.
[20:51] <TomatoIN> thank you all anyways.. Ill come back with udates :)
[20:51] <rusivi> AndyGraybeal the mfg website :)
[20:51] <Acetaminophen> hi! for some reason i can't upload this picture, and i think the ubuntu firefox addon has something to do with it? http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/8779/designerclothing.gif
[20:52] <Dynetrekk> AndyGraybeal: less /proc/cpuinfo
[20:52] <Dynetrekk> interestingly, my CPU speed reads lower than what I thought it was...
[20:52] <akoimeexx> Anyone have an idea how to get the libao driver installed on a PPC mac running Ubuntu 10.04?
[20:52] <AndyGraybeal> Dynetrekk: thank you
[20:53] <AndyGraybeal> Dynetrekk: awesome
[20:55] <Galaxor> Hi.  I wandered away for awhile.  I was asking about my usb hard drive hangs.  I've got a usb external enclosure.  New behavior is this:  It works for awhile and then hangs up.  Attempts to access the drive with such as ls will cause infinite hanging.  dmesg says this:  usb 2-3: reset high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 6.
[20:56] <gmaculo> how do i disable the default sorting of hidden files and case insensitivity in ls? -- also noticed command line regexp are also case insensitive.. how do i turn that crap off?
[20:56] <Galaxor> I don't know if this is a hardware or software issue.  I just upgraded from 9.10 to 10.04.  It's not the enclosure or the cable, cuz I just replaced both.  It still could be the plug I'm plugging into for power, or it could be the usb on the mobo.
[20:56] <jrib> gmaculo: what do you mean by "command line regexp are also case insensitive"?
[20:57] <Galaxor> I've tried googling, and I've found people complaining about the same issue 2-3 years ago, but could not extract useful advice out of these threads.
[20:57] <gmaculo> like when i do cp [a-f]* , it copies files starting with A-F also
[20:58] <xbonesx> anyone know why when you have a new cursor set, that it reverts back to the regular one when hovered over firefox?
[20:58] <alexlea> P-p-p-p-poker face p-p-p-poker face
[20:58] <gmaculo> ---on ext3, not fat
[20:58] <bobstro> Galaxor:  is it bus powered?
[20:59] <glebihan> xbonesx: probably because firefox sets it own cursor
[20:59] <joajimenez> Anyone here hates Gwibber?
[20:59] <Galaxor> bobstro:  No, it's got an AC adaptor.  When I switched the enclosure, I switched the adaptor also.  So if there's a power problem, it's at the wall.
[20:59] <glebihan> !ot | joajimenez
[20:59] <erUSUL> gmaculo: should not happen by default. you tweaked your bash init files
[20:59] <odb|fidel> hi
[20:59] <jrib> gmaculo: that's globbing, not regexp.  I didn't know that was enabled by default, what does this return: shopt nocaseglob
[21:00] <odb|fidel> running 10.04 here and wondering about the following dialog: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/223435/public_trash/20100928_%202156_ss.jpg
[21:00] <nemchik> question: is the mono runtime actually useful for anything an average user would do?
[21:00] <gmaculo> says on...
[21:00] <odb|fidel> i assume my preferences (never, nothing, never) should end up in never seeing this dialog
[21:00] <bobstro> Galaxor:  could it be the drive itself? i actually did have two usb adapters (enclosures) die on me on the same day once, but that's unlikely.
[21:00] <jrib> gmaculo: turn it off I suppose.  What version of ubuntu is this?
[21:00] <odb|fidel> while this dialog appears from time to time ...is that a known behaviour on ubuntu?
[21:00] <odb|fidel> i do run updates from cli daily
[21:00] <gmaculo> 10.04
[21:01] <Galaxor> bobstro:  Could be.  I did an fsck and it came up clean, but ... can I do smart over the usb?  Or does that depend on the enclosure?
[21:01] <xbonesx> glebihan: think so... ill look around in the firefox folders
[21:01] <bobstro> Galaxor:  not sure about smart. you could hook the drive up internally to test.
[21:02] <bobstro> Galaxor:  have you tried it on other computers?
[21:02] <gmaculo> doing the same regardless of that setting
[21:02] <gmaculo> :P
[21:02] <Galaxor> bobstro: No, that's a good idea.  I've got another computer right here.
[21:02] <jrib> gmaculo: pastebin a series of commands that shows that
[21:02] <Galaxor> bobstro: easier than opening the case.
[21:02] <bobstro> Galaxor:  i should have suggested that 1st.
[21:03] <Acidphase> hmm,
[21:03] <speedStick_> Hi, is it possible to mount a virtual host directory?
[21:03] <Acidphase> /dev/dsp: No such file or directory
[21:03] <Acidphase> any idea's ?
[21:03] <bobstro> Galaxor:  that's similar to behavior i see when i use my power-hungry 2.5 inch usb enclosure without external power.
[21:03] <Acidphase> (trying to run UT99)
[21:04] <guntbert> !enter | Acidphase
[21:04] <bobstro> Galaxor:  and you did replace the usb cable too, right?
[21:04] <Galaxor> bobstro: Yeah, new cable.
[21:05] <odb|fidel> anyone regarding the software-update notification issue i mentioned?
[21:05] <guntbert> Acidphase: what is UT99 ?
[21:05] <Acidphase> /dev/dsp: No such file or directory : Running Unreal Tournament
[21:05] <guntbert> odb|fidel: please rephrase it in one line - its hard to read it if it is spread across the page :-)
[21:06] <odb|fidel> guntbert: k
[21:06] <odb|fidel> what might cause this dialog? http://dl.dropbox.com/u/223435/public_trash/20100928_%202156_ss.jpg (10.04)
[21:07] <odb|fidel> personaly i would assume the setting (never/nothing/neveR) should prevent such gui notifications
[21:07] <VCoolio> odb|fidel: isn't there something in startup applications that causes this?
[21:07] <odb|fidel> out of the box yes- not here
[21:08] <gmaculo> jrib: http://pastebin.com/C7tY77FD
[21:08] <Galaxor> bobstro: Okay, I've got the drive plugged into the other computer.  It's not entirely deterministic, so it might take awhile to determine whether I experience this problem.
[21:08] <aroman> Hey guys, somehow a package (the maverick light themes PPA for lucid) got messed up on my 10.04.1 desktop. The important information is here, also with the result of the suggestion resolution commands. http://paste.ubuntu.com/502293/ Thanks SO MUCH!
[21:08] <odb|fidel> VCoolio: on a new 10.04 install yes-  while i deselected that user startup item already. So no in my case
[21:08] <Galaxor> bobstro: If it turns out to work on this computer, what should I do?  The other computer is also running Ubuntu 10.04.
[21:08] <jrib> gmaculo: this shows me nothing...
[21:09] <bobstro> Galaxor:  is there another hub on your motherboard? other ports to try?
[21:09] <odb|fidel> VCoolio: it just appears from time to time and my impression is that its related with additional ppas i added
[21:09] <bobstro> Galaxor:  perhaps it's a speed issue?
[21:09] <VCoolio> odb|fidel: adding ppas alone doesn't cause extra action
[21:10] <odb|fidel> VCoolio: thats why i am wondering
[21:10] <Galaxor> bobstro: Plugged into mobo are keyboard, mouse, and hub I'm not using.  Hub is built into the monitor.  When I have the drive plugged into this computer, it's plugged straight into the mobo.
[21:10] <odb|fidel> VCoolio: i do run manually almost daily in cli - so i really dont get why those notification appear at all
[21:10] <bobstro> Galaxor:  sorry, which is it plugged into when NOT working?
[21:10] <gmaculo> jrib: ideally, it is supposed to sort with . first, caps next, then lowercase. the cp [a-z]* test2 is ONLY supposed to copy files starting with lowerase
[21:10] <jrib> gmaculo: you need to show the nocaseglob setting, then run some simple command that shows it globbing with case insensitivity or whatever
[21:11] <Kage> everyone remember to add this line to their .bashrc file:   alias MotherMayI=sudo
[21:11] <cellardoor> I used to have Starcraft 2 running perfectly with Wine, but now it refuses to patch and I cannot save modified registery entries such as VideoMemorySize without it being removed next time I run wine. Any wine users here able to help?
[21:11] <Galaxor> bobstro: When it's not working, it's plugged straight into the mobo.
[21:11] <VCoolio> odb|fidel: I don't know; if it happesns again find out what process is behind it and search from there
[21:11] <jrib> gmaculo: we're talking about globbing not sorting
[21:11] <Galaxor> bobstro: Now, I've got the drive plugged into my laptop, and not this computer.
[21:12] <xbonesx> is there a config file for mozilla firefox?
[21:12] <bobstro> Galaxor:  sometimes there are different controllers for front & rear ports. if the onboard usb hub isn't up to snuff, it might cause problems with high-speed devices whilst working ok with low speed.
[21:12] <odb|fidel> VCoolio: k - i was just wondering if anyone else realized that behaviour
[21:12] <bobstro> xbonesx:  about:config
[21:12] <Galaxor> bobstro: I have one more port in the desktop's mobo that I could try.  I could also unplug the hub I'm not using.
[21:12] <xbonesx> bobstro: huh?
[21:12] <bobstro> Galaxor:  if it's a powered enclosure, you *should* be ok, but worth a shot.
[21:12] <odb|fidel> VCoolio: it just happens on 1 of my 10.04 installations - so its not a default thing ;)
[21:12] <gmaculo> ugh. nevermind ..
[21:12] <jrib> gmaculo: why?
[21:12] <bobstro> xbonesx:  to configure firefox. enter in the url bar.
[21:12] <Galaxor> bobstro: I've been plugging this straight into the back of the computer.
[21:13] <aroman> How to resolve: Depends: gconf2 (>= 2.28.1-2) but 2.28.1-0ubuntu1 is installed
[21:13] <VCoolio> odb|fidel: sorry, I never saw it or disabled it without remembering
[21:13] <bobstro> Galaxor:  understood. powered enclosure shouldn't require much from mobo, but worth reducing load on it to test.
[21:13] <xbonesx> bobstro: wow, thanks a lot
[21:13] <gmaculo> i just want my commands to work correctly. if i wanted my system ase insensitive, i'd use fat
[21:13] <akoimeexx> So, I even tried building libao from source and installing. Still a no-go on this server I'm fiddling with. Anyone have experience with Ubuntu on ppc systems?
[21:13] <bobstro> xbonesx:  was playing with it last night.
[21:14] <guntbert> VCoolio: you said: "find out what process is behind it..." -- how can you do that?
[21:14] <xbonesx> bobstro: see anything about the mouse that is set by firefox, if there even is one?
[21:14] <LordDragon> anyone know a img sharing site that doesnt scale the image?
[21:14] <bobstro> xbonesx:  i'm not aware of anything, but i haven't really looked.
[21:14] <bobstro> xbonesx:  though... i did have strangeness with cursor changing a while back. is that your issue?
[21:15] <VCoolio> guntbert: something like ps -ef | grep update/apt/notifier whatever, or maybe xprop knows something
[21:15] <xbonesx> bobstro: yesir
[21:15] <VCoolio> guntbert: I have e17, it has an option to see what process is behind the window, very convenient
[21:15] <guntbert> VCoolio: e17?
[21:15] <bobstro> xbonesx:  ah. i can only tell you that i found the answer via google. i honestly don't remember what the issue was, but it was a quick fix.
[21:16] <VCoolio> guntbert: enlightenment, you know, the awesome window manager that has released alpha after ten years
[21:16] <Galaxor> bobstro: Hm.  I don't think I was loading it heavily.  I was playing mp3s off of there, one at a time.  I don't know if it's dropping out when I'm not playing mp3s off of there.
[21:16] <guntbert> VCoolio: :-)
[21:17] <bobstro> Galaxor:  i think you're in the realm of hardware puzzles. it should "just work" if power is sufficient.
[21:17] <bobstro> Galaxor:  just for fun, try it off the hub?
[21:17] <xbonesx> bobstro: well i figured out that if you put the folder with the images in the /usr/share/icons/ folder and then change your current mouse "cursor.theme" file too inherit=<the one you want> that it solves the mouse issue acrooss the board in gnome, but when above firefox it goes back to default
[21:17] <bobstro> xbonesx:  i wasn't even doing that much. just basic interface stuff.
[21:18] <Galaxor> bobstro: Yeah.  Could there be a kernel bug, though?  The biggest change recently was the update to 10.04.
[21:18] <LordDragon> hey im getting this weird quirk in the topbar in ubuntu 10.04. all my application icons have a white background instead of matching the bar. anyone know whats wrong? heres what it looks like http://i.imgur.com/Zugq1.jpg
[21:18] <bobstro> Galaxor:  maybe try booting off an older live cd and test?
[21:18] <LordDragon> i tried a reboot and its still there
[21:18] <bobstro> Galaxor:  other machine is 10.04 though, right? still, worth a check if it was ok before.
[21:18] <ldx> Can some one show me the steps to install EPIC ircii ?
[21:19] <xbonesx> bobstro: oh, you should see the mouse cursor im using, one sec ill get a link
[21:19] <akoimeexx> Let me broaden my question, does anyone know how to get sound working on 10.04 server, just in CLI?
[21:20] <mr_chris> akoimeex: sudo aptitude install alse
[21:20] <mr_chris> adjust with alsamixer
[21:20] <mr_chris> akoimeex: err, "sudo aptitude install alsa"
[21:20] <zamba> what is the configuration file style called used by dhcpd.conf?
[21:20] <tomtom34> what does the Disk Usage analyzer show in Ubuntu with usage column ?
[21:21] <tomtom34> it shows 100% usage in one folder, what does it mean ?
[21:21] <tomtom34> does it mean its used all its space allocated ? how can I expand that area ?
[21:21] <akoimeexx> mr_chris: Just installed and tested, still can't find a suitable libao driver.
[21:22] <xbonesx> bobstro: http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/7308/screenshot1plh.png
[21:22] <akoimeexx> Testing using mpg321
[21:22] <xbonesx> bobstro: thats my desktop and the cursor is in the middle
[21:22] <mr_chris> akiomeexx: You're on powerpc?
[21:22] <akoimeexx> mr_chris: Yes.
[21:22] <akoimeexx> The desktop is a G4.
[21:23] <mr_chris> akiomeexx: I have a little experience with that platform. I'm assuming an old Mac. What kind?
[21:23] <bobstro> xbonesx:  i'd lose that on my screen! you've seen these? http://howto.blbosti.com/2010/08/change-mouse-cursor-theme-in-ubuntu-with-compiz-enabled-10-04-and-higher/
[21:24] <cdose1> i have put the live cd onto a usb stick.  how do i remove the "install ubuntu" dialog which shows up at first?
[21:24] <akoimeexx> Power Macintosh G4
[21:24] <DrDamnit> I have an Ubuntu 10.04.1 LTS server (fresh install) that I rebooted, and it is now stuck on
[21:24] <DrDamnit> fsck from util-linux-ng 2.16
[21:24] <DrDamnit> /dev/sda1: clean, 5760512/1546875221, and I cannot log in. It responds to CTRL+ALT+DEL, but nothing else. How do I fix this?
[21:24] <mr_chris> Sawtooth? Quicksilver?
[21:24] <The_Paco> hi, ubuntu servers tty seems to be midreading the size of my monitor, it cuts a couple characters off the end of long lines before wrapping. Where would I look to troubleshoot/fix that?
[21:24] <tomtom34> hello anyone
[21:24] <akoimeexx> mr_chris: Not sure I follow? Sawtooth or QuickSilver?
[21:25] <guntbert> VCoolio: thx for the hint about xprop - just what I asked for :-)
[21:25] <Galaxor> bobstro: True.  While we were talking, mp3s were playing off the drive hooked up to the laptop.  That's not a conclusive test, because there wouldn't necessarily have been a hangup during that time.  But now I put it in the hub.  We'll see if that changes anything.
[21:25] <odb|fidel> akoimeexx: ppc g4 models
[21:25] <akoimeexx> odb|fidel: Couldn't say offhand, Let me look it up. Mac's aren't my forte.
[21:25] <mr_chris> akiomeexx: There were a few different types of powermac G4s. They had nicknames like sawtooth and quicksilver. Is the case silver on the front or is it the blue kind with the pin stripe front?
[21:26] <odb|fidel> akoimeexx: everymac.com should answer that
[21:26] <akoimeexx> Blue with pinstripes.
[21:26] <tensorpudding> the ubuntu ppc port isn't officially supported is it?
[21:26] <bobstro> Galaxor:  good luck!
[21:26] <mr_chris> akiomeez: Most likely a sawtooth then. Could you please fill me in on what you've tried already to get sound working? Sorry for all the questions but I just want to be sure I'm helping you with the right thing.
[21:27] <rebirth> how do you insert a timestamp in tomboy notes?
[21:27] <DrDamnit>  I have an Ubuntu 10.04.1 LTS server (fresh install) that I rebooted, and it is now stuck on "fsck from util-linux-ng 2.16 /dev/sda1: clean, 5760512/1546875221", and I cannot log in. It responds to CTRL+ALT+DEL, but nothing else. How do I fix this?
[21:28] <mr_chris> tensorpudding: No but it is still community supported and for the most part quite good.
[21:28] <odb|fidel> rebirth: there is a plugin/add-in for that in tomboy
[21:28] <mr_chris> At least it used to be last I checked.
[21:28] <akoimeexx> mr_chris: Well, up to this point I've tried building & installing libao from source, and installing alsa. I'm at a loss for what else to try. Google wasn't as helping as I wanted it to be.
[21:28] <ikonia> DrDamnit: I would boot from a livecd and manually fsck the file systems
[21:28] <DrDamnit> ikonia: once it clears the "I need to run fsck" flag, it will boot normally? What about 31 boots from now?
[21:29] <ikonia> DrDamnit: that should work
[21:29] <akoimeexx> I've tried grepping to find out where libao2 is located, but couldn't find it. Couldn't locate it either, even though it's reported installed.
[21:29] <Galaxor> bobstro: Aha.  We have a dropout here in the hub now.
[21:29] <DrDamnit> I'll try that.
[21:29] <rebirth> odb|fidel: i see i have it installed but i don't know how to use it
[21:29] <DrDamnit> ikonia: thanks.
[21:29] <mr_chris> akiomeex: Are you trying to use something that requires libao? Correct me if I'm wrong but normally libao is separate from the general sound working.
[21:29] <odb|fidel> rebirth: ctrl+l
[21:29] <akoimeexx> mr_chris: mpg321, in particular.
[21:30] <akoimeexx> mr_chris: Neither that nor mpg123 will work without libao, from what I've seen.
[21:30] <odb|fidel> should give you a timestamp - while personaly i would prefer defining an abbreviation in autokey (another app) ...as this abbreviation for a timestamp works everywhere  - not just in your tomboy notes thing
[21:30] <rebirth> odb|fidel: ctrl+l is to link to a new note
[21:30] <daniel> Elo
[21:30] <odb|fidel> rebirth: ctrl+d
[21:30] <adv_> i have one partition /. how can i move home/ to a different partition with all its data?
[21:30] <mr_chris> akiomeex: So let's go over the obvious things first. You have installed alsa, confirmed that the volume is turned up and unmuted, and tried the test with aplay?
[21:30] <odb|fidel> my fault
[21:30] <rebirth> odb|fidel: that's it
[21:30] <odb|fidel> rebirth: consider using AutoKey ;)
[21:30] <bobstro> Galaxor:  it may not mean much if that hub goes back to the same motherboard ports, but it was worth a shot.
[21:30] <LordDragon> hey guys, after selecting the recommended nvidia driver, i cant seem to turn on ANY desktop effects. i get the error "the composite extension is not avilable"
[21:31] <mr_chris> akoimeex: Also, what are you trying to do with sound on a server?
[21:31] <rebirth> odb|fidel: AutoKey?
[21:31] <bobstro> Galaxor:  any other hi-speed usb devices you can try off the motherboard?
[21:31] <akoimeexx> Yes. aplay reports audio open error: No such file or directory (in attempt to access audio hardware, I would guess.)
[21:31] <odb|fidel> rebirth: abbreviation & macro app
[21:31] <odb|fidel> rebirth: i.e. i defined ;dt for autoinserting the current time & date . that works everywhere - not just in tomboy
[21:31] <Galaxor> bobstro:  Good idea.  I've got a usb key in my pocket.
[21:32] <akoimeexx> Eventually it'll be headless, I want it to chime if someone in the office needs to start it back up for some reason
[21:32] <odb|fidel> rebirth: and just 1 example how autokey can solve you keystrokes ;)
[21:32] <odb|fidel> *safe*
[21:32] <CkhiKuzad> How exactly do I open a port on my system for a game, in this case Aleph One
[21:32] <akoimeexx> Chime when it's up and running again, I should say
[21:32] <mr_chris> akoimeex: Hmm. I'm stuck at this point. I happen to have an old sawtooth lying around. If you PM me your email address I can try an install and see what results I get.
[21:32] <mattbd> The_Paco: I think it might be your TERM variable in your .bashrc
[21:32] <rebirth> odb|fidel: save you mean? :-P
[21:33] <mr_chris> If you don't have it solved by then I'll send you what I find.
[21:33] <The_Paco> mattbd, I'll look for it, thanks
[21:33] <odb|fidel> rebirth: yep ...and now check it out ;)
[21:33] <Galaxor> bobstro: I have another test, too.  When the mp3-playing was working on the laptop, it was using totem.  On the desktop, it's always with Rhythmbox when it doesn't work.  I'm trying totem on the bad computer to see if it will also act good.  If it acts good, then that means that it didn't mean anything that it was working on the laptop.
[21:34] <erUSUL> CkhiKuzad: ubuntu has no firewall so if there is something listening in the port nothing will block it. you may have to configure nat on your router
[21:34] <bobstro> Galaxor:  i'd be surprised if the software accessing the drive made a difference, but it could be interesting if so.
[21:34] <rebirth> what's the dif between gtk and qt?
[21:34] <Galaxor> bobstro: Both use gstreamer to play the music, though, so I don't see how it could be different.
[21:34] <odb|fidel> rebirth: if you are running gnome - get the gtk build
[21:34] <bobstro> Galaxor:  you could also run some drive benchmarks on both computers for more 'raw' consistency and loading.
[21:34] <sjefen6> Is it possible to roll back the previus software update?
[21:35] <sjefen6> it borked my nvidia driver
[21:35] <CkhiKuzad> erUSUL, I'm using my modem now, rather than a router. for some reason whenever I connect to "Join Network game" on it, i'm the only one in the lobby. how do i listen on a certain port for connections?
[21:35] <bobstro> Galaxor:  and don't forget to try a live cd on the 'broken' computer.
[21:35] <erUSUL> rebirth: many  i will mention one --> gtk is a C API the qt is for C++
[21:35] <akoimeexx> Thanks, guys, for the help. I'm off to reset a router. =p
[21:35] <bobstro> Galaxor:  a usb card for the desktop should be cheap if you narrow it down to the motherboard
[21:35] <dwarder> in my system->preferences->appearance i've set not to use AA, but i still have it in my firefox, why?
[21:36] <tomtom34> what does Usage column of the Disk Usage analyzer mean ?
[21:36] <odb|fidel> rebirth: Users of KDE should install autokey-qt. Users of GNOME should install autokey-gtk
[21:36] <mattbd> The_Paco: Try putting export TERM=xterm-256color in your .bashrc and see if that resolves the issue.
[21:36] <Galaxor> bobstro: Ooh.  Is there a good benchmark program I could use?
[21:36] <dwarder> AA == font rendering
[21:36] <xbonesx> bobstro: so i undid the changes that i had made for the cursor then tried step one and then did step two in that link you gave me and now the cursor works across the board thanks a lot
[21:36] <dwarder> i set it to monochrome
[21:37] <The_Paco> mattbd, cool, trying that now
[21:37] <bobstro> Galaxor:  Administration->Disk Utility has one
[21:37] <TomTom34> what does Usage column of the Disk Usage analyzer mean ?
[21:37] <bobstro> xbonesx:  glad to hear it. but now they're the old cursors, right?
[21:37] <noel_g> I had a system get hung during login.  I restarted gdm using service gdm restart , and got the system to become responsive, but I can't login, what service do I need to restart to be able to log into the system (accessing the system via SSH)
[21:38] <bobstro> Galaxor:  it also has smart data, if available
[21:38] <xbonesx> bobstro: no i edited the commands in the link to point towards my custom one that i placed in /usr/share/icons/ folder
[21:39] <bobstro> Galaxor:  just hooked up my usb enclosure. no smart data, but benchmark is there.
[21:39] <bobstro> Galaxor:  run benchmark on usb to see if maybe speed issue?
[21:39] <bekks> hi
[21:40] <dwarder> how do i disable aa for FF
[21:40] <dwarder> firefo
[21:40] <dwarder> x
[21:40] <TomTom34> hello
[21:40] <TomTom34> can anyone hear me
[21:40] <bekks> using 10.04 server, and screen with just two shells open, it appears that screen has more than one screen buffer, which makes it impossible to scroll withing, without switching the buffer.
[21:41] <TomTom34> am I still invisible
[21:41] <bekks> how can i set screen to have just one buffer, for not having to switch buffers anymore?
[21:41] <erUSUL> TomTom34: no
[21:41] <rebirth> TomTom34: we can see you, stop flooding the channel
[21:41] <TomTom34> ok thanks god
[21:41] <erUSUL> !ask | TomTom34
[21:41] <The_Paco> mattbd, well, that didn't work it seems, unless I need to restart completely rather than logging out
[21:41] <erUSUL> bekks: i do not understand what you mean by « switch buffers » ...
[21:42] <Galaxor> bobstro:  Running benchmark, thanks.  Also, it looks like I've got partial smart data through here.  I couldn't get anything from smartctl, but maybe I just didn't have the right args.
[21:42] <Galaxor> bobstro: The partial smart data I got looked good.
[21:42] <TomTom34> what does the Usage column in the Disk Usage analyzer mean. I have a folder that shows 100% usage and its 80gigs, the folder is a database of an application, now that I want to upload some documents to the database its not allowing it to, I have 8 gig left in my 700gig hard drive, please help
[21:43] <mattbd> The_Paco:No, if it worked you should be able to log back in and see the effect immediately. Are you physically in front of the machine or are you accessing it via SSH?
[21:43] <erUSUL> TomTom34: 5% of space is reserved for root
[21:43] <Galaxor> bobstro: The read benchmark went through without dropping out the drive.
[21:43] <The_Paco> hmp... I typed ". ~/.bashrc" and now I have ";user@host:~user@host:~$" prefacing each line. Any way to unscrew that?
[21:43] <sirecat> Need some help getting vinagre to connect. I have installed tightvnc server as well. I can use the default terminal server client, I am prompted for a password, then I connect to my host(win7). The opposite is true of vinagre I tell it to connect to the ip address and it comes back with a connection closed message. Anyone help?
[21:43] <TomTom34> erUSUL, so 8 gigs not enough for uploading any data ?
[21:43] <The_Paco> mattbd, I'm physically in front of it
[21:44] <Ichat> TomTom,34 - ALSO  it might be that its a userquota (check that if wil).
[21:44] <TomTom34> erUSUL, if 5% is for root, then there should be 35gig free ?
[21:44] <bekks> erUSUL: it is described in here: http://jmcpherson.org/screen.html in the paragraph "Copying, pasting, and the scrollback buffer"
[21:44] <Galaxor> bobstro: I dunno.  I'll keep meddling, working under the theory that this is a hardware issue.  I'll try to rule it out.  I like the idea of the rescue disk.  I might have to wait till tomorrow to do that, though.
[21:45] <TomTom34> erUSUL, the drive is 700 gig
[21:45] <Ichat> TomTom34:   not entirly - because  of that  35 gb - root might stil have some files that where chowned to it.   so
[21:45] <The_Paco> mattbd, I'm able to adjust the monitor a bit to fit all the characters, but it still cuts them partially off on both sides (old monitor, can't adjust more). It just needs to be one character per line narrower
[21:45] <Mike_Flip> hi I'm trying to get Bluetooth working on my acer aspire 5000
[21:45] <Ichat> that wil go off your  35gb
[21:45] <mattbd> The_Paco: I take it you aren't running a graphical desktop?
[21:45] <The_Paco> nope, ubuntu server
[21:46] <erUSUL> bekks: i do not see the problem each screen has its own scroll buffer as it should
[21:46] <The_Paco> first time any linux hasn't automagically accommodated my odd monitors, so I've never even had to think about what goes into it
[21:46] <erUSUL> TomTom34: what error do you get when you try to copy the data?
[21:46] <bekks> erUSUL: i am used to screen which allows scrolling with shift+PGUP/DOWN without having to enter copy mode first.
[21:47] <Ichat> tomtom -  you could try and tweak yourself some extra data.  but  the easy way would just bit to  either add a new disk or to   delete some 'unused' stuff
[21:47] <cdose1> how do i change kernel boot options in 10.04?
[21:47] <mattgyver> cdose1, you can press E in grub to edit, or edit /etc/default/grub and run update-grub when finished
[21:47] <cdose1> mattgyver: thanks
[21:48] <drdeeps> My audio just randomly died
[21:48] <drdeeps> Yay!
[21:48] <TomTom34> erUSUL, its something else, says cannot upload data
[21:48] <mattgyver> drdeeps, congratulations your a winner!
[21:48] <erUSUL> bekks: http://www.debianhelp.org/node/4726
[21:48] <ZykoticK9> mattgyver, do you happen to know, using the E with grub - does that only apply that single boot, or are those changes permanent?
[21:48] <mattgyver> ZykoticK9, only a single boot.
[21:48] <drdeeps> What do I win!?
[21:49] <erUSUL> ZykoticK9: only to a boot
[21:49] <mattgyver> drdeeps, a fresh copy of windows 7!!
[21:49] <ZykoticK9> mattgyver, erUSUL thanks guys
[21:49] <drdeeps> But it
[21:49] <mattbd> The_Paco: You might want to check out the post at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrameBuffer and this one at http://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=19569&start=0
[21:49] <The_Paco> audio dies, get a cookie... that's why Creative was so broke in the old days... $2bn in cookies per annum
[21:49] <drdeeps> But it's already installed on my laptop... and it's garbage*
[21:49] <mattgyver> <license sold separately?
[21:49] <l0de> Hi, I'd like to request that users and operators from this channel please stop spamming our small mom+pop irc network. It really is very disruptive.
[21:49] <king313> hello :)
[21:49] <mattbd> I think the framebuffer may be what's responsible for the issue you're having
[21:50] <erUSUL> TomTom34: and you are sure is becouse of space issues? may be some other error with that "something else"
[21:50] <The_Paco> mattbd, okay, will read them now, thanks
[21:50] <adv_> what's a tool to create a complete image of my OS?
[21:50] <kphillips> adv_, use Clonezilla
[21:50] <erUSUL> !remaster | adv_
[21:50] <king313> can anyone tell me about minimal distributions of ubuntu? Im just searcing few names
[21:50] <drdeeps> copy + paste works best
[21:51] <kphillips> @king313 what are you looking for?
[21:51] <maedox> Why do I always get the same spam check? It's kind of defeating the purpose.
[21:51] <adv_> erUSUL, is that related how?
[21:51] <Mike_Flip> kubuntu and xubuntu
[21:51] <erUSUL> adv_: remastersys does what you want afaik
[21:51] <blenderer> is there something for gnome panel to tell me what language keyboard settings i'm using
[21:51] <king313> I need an ubuntu distribution for a netbook, simple, not including lot of programs, usable...
[21:52] <bekks> erUSUL: thank you!
[21:52] <TomTom34> erUSUL, I want to know how this disk usage thing mean, is it reserved space by the OS, can it be expanded, now it shows 100% full
[21:52] <tensorpudding> king313: Ubuntu Netbook edition
[21:53] <nerdystudmuffin> I'm having trouble. I just installed Karmic clean and installed the LAMP server
[21:53] <king313> tensorpudding, is it paralel update with latest versions?
[21:53] <mattbd> king313: +1 Ubuntu netbook edition
[21:53] <nerdystudmuffin> Made config changes and such but for some reason curl is not working in CLI or mod_php
[21:53] <mattbd> king313: Works really well on my Dell Mini 10v
[21:53] <The_Paco> woah
[21:53] <king313> tensorpudding, mattbd thanks
[21:53] <nerdystudmuffin> I've tried everyting both phpinfo()'s show that curl is enabled
[21:54] <king313> mattbd, I actually need it for a latidude x1
[21:54] <nerdystudmuffin> There are no PHP errors generated in either environment
[21:54] <The_Paco> running "vi /etc/default/grub" screwed up my video
[21:54] <The_Paco> I didn't even change anything
[21:55] <Mike_Flip> hi I'm trying to get Bluetooth working on my acer aspire 5000. the bluetooth applet from the system menu says no adapter present. there is a hardware button to able/disable it but no effect
[21:55] <drdeeps> I'm thinking my sound card died...
[21:55] <mattbd> king313: I've always had good results with Dell hardware on Ubuntu, my Studio 15 and my Mini both work great with Lucid
[21:55] <The_Paco> restarting fixed that
[21:56] <ehcah> Does anyone know of an app to customize the imon lcd screen? Or, where the code is found?
[21:56] <king313> mattbd, great, I was actually thinking of using a fluxbox environment
[21:56] <erUSUL> TomTom34: i just fired up the disk use analizer. usage is the percent of the total space used that corresponds to each folder
[21:56] <king313> mattbd, what do you think?
[21:56] <wpecker> Hi, is there a way to make PULSEAUDIO server listen on localhost instead of 0.0.0.0? For security reasons?
[21:56] <erUSUL> TomTom34: as far as i can see
[21:57] <martez89> Hi, my laptop (acer aspire 5542) keeps crashing when the CPU use is heavy. I already updated to the newest BIOS. I'm on 10.10.
[21:57] <martez89> Anyone else had this problem?
[21:57] <ikonia> martez89: 10.10 is unsupported
[21:57] <erUSUL> wpecker: /etc/pulse/daemon.conf ?
[21:57] <mattbd> king313: I've used Fluxbox and IceWM on netbooks before and both are good. Might want to consider Peppermint Ice or Crunchbang Linux too
[21:57] <ZykoticK9> king313, i used to be a fan of UNE (UNR really) but to not recommend it to people anymore.  If you are looking for something "minimal" you might want to check out lubuntu.
[21:57] <wpecker> (erUSUL): can you tell me the exact setting in there for it?
[21:57] <ikonia> martez89: you can discuss in the channel #ubuntu+1 but keep in mind it's unsupported
[21:58] <The_Paco> I'm for some reason displaying double prompts on each line... IE: ";user@host; ~user@host:~$" it happened after I typed in the command ". /.bashrc" anyone know how to undo that?
[21:58] <dwarder> where do i turn off  font AA in Firefox
[21:58] <martez89> ikonia thanks
[21:58] <wpecker> (erUSUL): because I looked in that file and found nothing for it
[21:58] <drdeeps> Guys I
[21:58] <drdeeps> argh damned enter key
[21:58] <tensorpudding> The_Paco: what does .bashrc do to $PS1
[21:58] <drdeeps> lets re-try this
[21:59] <tgywa> Hello
[21:59] <king313> mattbd, thanks a lot :) will consider both
[21:59] <king313> ZykoticK9, why you dont like it?
[22:00] <tgywa> How can I generate a randome number ... if possible n number of random numbers ... in Ubuntu??
[22:00] <erUSUL> wpecker: launch « paprefs » it is configured there afaics
[22:00] <TomTom34> erUSUL, is there anyplace I can upload my image file ?
[22:00] <The_Paco> tensorpudding, I don't understand the question
[22:00] <TomTom34> and you can view it
[22:00] <mattbd> ZykoticK9:Personally I really like UNE, although Unity does look pretty cool
[22:00] <erUSUL> !screenshot
[22:00] <ZykoticK9> king313, i find UNE's Gnome to have too many restriction, i haven't played with Unity interface at all (default in 10.10 i believe).
[22:01] <tgywa> How can I generate a randome number ... if possible n number of random numbers ... in Ubuntu??
[22:01] <ZykoticK9> mattbd, i used to really like UNR for my old EEE 701 netbooks - but as versions went on, i liked it less and less (it's just personal opinion mind you)
[22:01] <drdeeps> Guys I'm still on 9.10 because for some reason 10.04 stopped appearing on boot up. It would come up to the login screen, i could hit enter, type my password and hit enter again and hear the login noise but no display. I had the driver installed for my graphics card and it stopped working I think. So I re-installed 9.10 cause it's the only disk I have, upgraded, and it stayed like that. I have the driver now for my graphics card, do you
[22:01] <drdeeps>  think it will still work if I upgrade to 10.04 in preparation for 10.10 or will the Upgrade Manager change the 10.04 upgrade to 10.10
[22:01] <wpecker> (erUSUL): the first option in the second tab there just turns the listening on an off, but I can't set it to listen only on local
[22:01] <dfeasfkkeasd> Hello
[22:03] <erUSUL> tgywa: tr -dc '0-9' < /dev/urandom | head -100c | fold -4
[22:03] <mattbd> tgywa: I'd use Python
[22:04] <TomTom34> erUSUL, says image type not allowed, it has 2000 limit on total images in the server
[22:04] <ZykoticK9> drdeeps, just FYI but 10.04 will not by default upgrade to 10.10 (as Maverick is not an LTS release, obviously it's just a config change to allow the non-LTS version upgrade)
[22:04] <TomTom34> erUSUL, its only 100kb png image
[22:04] <erUSUL> wpecker: if you do not allow network access to local sound devices" you are setting it to listen only local
[22:05] <Gadgetwizard> Hello All
[22:05] <Dulak> you don't even have to change config files, just run 'update-manager -d' and it will give you the upgrade option to 10.10
[22:06] <drdeeps> Right, I realize I'll have to manually upgrade. But on 9.10 in the update manager it says 10.04 at the top. will that change to 10.10 when it is released so I can upgrade to 10.10 or do i have to go up to the semi-broken 10.04
[22:06] <ZykoticK9> Dulak, i'm refering to after maverick is release (an not in it's current devel stage)
[22:06] <wpecker> (erUSUL): if I uncheck that it doesn't listen at all?
[22:06] <cyberrider> Hi can someone help me with mergeing 2 po files?
[22:06] <Gadgetwizard> what are the new features with 10.10
[22:06] <erUSUL> wpecker: i expect so; yes
[22:07] <TomTom34> erUSUL, http://imagebin.org/116156
[22:07] <Dulak> ZykoticK9: works the same either way, update-manager -d will offer the upgrade either way, and is the 'correct' way to upgrade
[22:07] <dwarder> how do i put "close window" "maximaze window" and o
[22:07] <mattbd> tgywa: In the default version of Python in Ubuntu, it would be something like http://paste.ubuntu.com/502310/ to get a number between 1 and 10
[22:07] <dwarder> other button
[22:07] <dwarder> to the right side
[22:07] <dwarder> ?
[22:07] <ZykoticK9> Gadgetwizard, 10.10 discussion isn't actually allowed in this channel (you could as in #ubuntu+1 if you wanted), i was addressing the 10.04 upgrade issue only ;)
[22:07] <glebihan> drdeeps: you won't be able to upgrade directly from 9.10 to 10.10
[22:07] <wpecker> (erUSUL): then it's not useful because apps can't connect to it
[22:07] <drdeeps> Damn.
[22:07] <Gadgetwizard> oh ok
[22:07] <drdeeps> Oh well...
[22:07] <Gadgetwizard> thanks
[22:07] <Gadgetwizard> LOL
[22:07] <The_Paco> oh cool fixed it
[22:07] <ZykoticK9> !controls | dwarder
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[22:07] <dwarder> how do i put "close window" "maximaze window" and other button to the right side of the window?
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[22:08] <glebihan> drdeeps: maybe a fresh install would be the bestsolution
[22:08] <dwarder> ZykoticK9: thanks
[22:08] <wpecker> (erUSUL): then it's not useful because apps can't connect to it
[22:08] <Gerwin> >>
[22:08] <Whitor> This SPAM issue is aweful.
[22:08] <erUSUL> TomTom34: that's a single disk in a single partition? it looks simply full
[22:08] <ZykoticK9> dwarder, that alucidfs site is mine - so i love that factoid
[22:08] <Whitor> sorry for stating the obvious
[22:08] <drdeeps> So burn an ISO of 10.04?
[22:08] <dfeasfkkeasd> mattbd, hell0
[22:09] <annkas> where can I find documentation for server installation and configuration for edubuntu?
[22:09] <glebihan> drdeeps: yes
[22:09] <cyberrider> can someone help me with mergeing 2 po files?
[22:09] <annkas> I've asked at #edubuntu - no answers
[22:09] <Gadgetwizard> im running 10.04 on my ppc ibook
[22:09] <Gadgetwizard> works amazing
[22:09] <wpecker> my original question : is there a way to make PULSEAUDIO server listen on localhost instead of 0.0.0.0? For security reasons?
[22:09] <drdeeps> Thanks glebihan. I'll take a look at it.
[22:09] <TomTom34> erUSUL, so the only solution is to get a new one or delete more files ?
[22:10] <glebihan> cyberrider: po files are text files, so it shouldn't be an issue
[22:10] <cyberrider> glebihan: I want to merge them automaticaly
[22:11] <DragonKeeper> hello
[22:11] <erUSUL> TomTom34: so it seesms you have a folder with 460 GiB and another with 210 GiB thats 80% of the disk ....
[22:11] <DragonKeeper> any one help with a minor hardware issue ?
[22:11] <ehcah> Can anyone point me to the correct directory for editing my imon lcd messages?
[22:11] <ZykoticK9> !anyone
[22:11] <glebihan> cyberrider: automatically ? you mean with some command ?
[22:12] <cyberrider> glebihan: i tryed msgmerge and msgcat and doesnt work
[22:12] <cyberrider> or I dont know hou to use it properly
[22:12] <DragonKeeper> my sound normally works but today it wont load on ubuntu it will work when i boot another OS       and restart of ubuntu doesnt solve my problem        im getting no audio   and in sound options it doesnt see my hardware anymore
[22:12] <DragonKeeper> anyone help ?
[22:12] <king313> huah
[22:12] <glebihan> cyberrider: try the "paste" command
[22:14] <cyberrider> glebihan: i dont think u get it. I have 2 po files (translations files) from 2 diferent versions of one program and  im trying to replace the translated lines from the older one in the newer one
[22:15] <wpecker> Is there a way to make PULSEAUDIO server listen on localhost only for security reasons?
[22:15] <frankbro> How can I add a panel to my second screen in a multi-monitor ? With red hat, I just have to add a panel and move it, but I cant move it with ubuntu
[22:15] <cyberrider> glebihan:so just paste wont do my job
[22:15] <glebihan> cyberrider: oh ok you're right I didn't get that
[22:16] <cyberrider> cyberrider: so can I merge them without haveing the same text twice?
[22:17] <cyberrider> glebihan: so can I merge them without haveing the same text twice?
[22:17] <DragonKeeper> ok i get ignored... what a great room to come to for help
[22:18] <glebihan> cyberrider: you may try using poEdit
[22:18] <nerdystudmuffin> I fixed my error - requesting a bug in PHP - if CA/Peer validation failes in the Curl libs, PHP should throw an error of somekind.
[22:18] <The_Paco> patience, DragonKeeper. Tons of people doing tons of things
[22:19] <cyberrider> glebihan: from what I know so far in poedit I can just edit them I will check if it has some merge function somewhere
[22:19] <v3nd3tta``> what's the command to zip or tar a whole dir?
[22:19] <deadant2> Is Ubuntu netbook remix worth installing?
[22:20] <glebihan> cyberrider: never used it but just read it has a merge function
[22:20] <erUSUL> v3nd3tta``: tar czvf file.tar.gz dir/
[22:20] <ChesterX> Hi, I just compiled my first little C app. To run it I have to use "./name" , instead of the normal "name" in the console (even tough I am in the right directory). Why?
[22:20] <maedox> v3nd3tta``: man tar :)
[22:20] <glebihan> ChesterX: because the current folder is not in the path
[22:21] <maedox> ChesterX: because current dir is not in your path.
[22:21] <damiankw> ChesterX, ./ denotes 'current working directory' if you want to use it without, you either put your application into the /usr/bin /bin or set your path var
[22:21] <wpecker> Is there a way to make PULSEAUDIO server listen on 127.0.0.1 only for security reasons?
[22:21] <dsnyders> HI All!  How do you fix the time on ubuntu?  It is supposed to be synched to a time server, but mine is almost an hour out of step.
[22:21] <erUSUL> ChesterX: current dir is not in $PATH
[22:21] <ChesterX> glebihan, the path begin the main user directory?
[22:21] <cyberrider> glebihan: I found a „update from POT” function I'll try it , thanks for your help
[22:21] <maedox> dsnyders: use ntpdate
[22:22] <glebihan> cyberrider: you're welcome
[22:22] <damiankw> dsnyders, https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/NTP.html
[22:22] <aeon-ltd> !ntp
[22:22] <aeon-ltd> !ntp | dsnyders
[22:23] <glebihan> ChesterX: the PATH environment variable contains the list of paths in which the shell is going to look for executable files, run "echo $PATH" to see that list
[22:23] <ChesterX> glebihan, ok thank you
[22:24] <csmith1994> hey guys. I have no os installed on my pc, completely wiped hard drive, and ubuntu doesn't recognize my hard drive. I'm running off live usb (netbook). No network either because I don't have drivers for bcm4312 and hopefully this problem is only temporary. the it guy at my school said it may be a problem with the partition table
[22:24] <cyberrider> glebihan: It worked, now i have updated the old file with new lines, and I didnt had to mess with copy paste
[22:24] <deadant2> Is there a way to hover over a video im playing (Or a window thats open) and see a preview like in 7?
[22:25] <glebihan> cyberrider: great :)
[22:25] <jrib> deadant2: in the window list you mean?
[22:25] <adv_> how do i get the UUID of a disk? say /dev/sda5
[22:25] <damiankw> csmith1994, try a thing called UltimateBoot CD - it should be able to tell you everything you need
[22:25] <jrib> adv_: ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/
[22:25] <VCoolio> adv_: sudo blkid
[22:25] <erUSUL> adv_: sudo blkid
[22:25] <cyberrider> glebihan: thank you again, I owe you
[22:26] <TomTom34> erUSUL, yeah maybe thats one of the reasons
[22:26] <halpo> is ther anyone here that can give me a little install help?
[22:26] <csmith1994> damiankw right now I'm using systemrescuecd liveusb is that of any help
[22:26] <aeon-ltd> !details | halpo
[22:26] <glebihan> cyberrider: you're welcome, glad I could help
[22:27] <halpo> Insall does not recognize the Crucial RealSSD C300.
[22:27] <halpo> installing Ubuntu 10.1
[22:27] <adv_> thanks
[22:27] <halpo> 10.4
[22:27] <halpo> is there a way to get the drive recognized
[22:27] <deadant2> jrib, the bottom of the screen
[22:27] <subay^^> hi there
[22:27] <deadant2> jrib, i assume thats the window list right?
[22:27] <jrib> deadant2: there's a compiz plugin for that.  #compiz can probably tell you exactly how to enable it
[22:28] <deadant2> jrib, cool thanks
[22:28] <Carolo3> hola
[22:28] <Carolo3> tengo unos problemillas
[22:28] <glebihan> deadant2: enable the "Window previews" plugin in ccsm
[22:29] <Carolo3> se va a desarrollar LibreOffice
[22:29] <Carolo3> no es genial_
[22:29] <Carolo3> es genial
[22:29] <glebihan> !es | Carolo3
[22:29] <deadant2> glebihan, Where do i find "ccsm"
[22:29] <aeon-ltd> deadant2: synaptics
[22:29] <deadant2> glebihan, Oh compiz settings
[22:30] <glebihan> deadant2: Press Alt+F2, then type "ccsm"
[22:30] <glebihan> deadant2: yep
[22:30] <csmith1994> also, my hard drive shows up in bios, so the problem is on the os level.
[22:30] <deadant2> glebihan, Got it,thanks
[22:30] <glebihan> deadant2: you're welcome
[22:31] <dsnyders> aeon-ltd, When I issue the ntpdate command (as root) I get the error: the NTP socket is in use, exiting
[22:31] <csmith1994> nvm problem solved
[22:31] <etrnl> Does Epiphany have support for flash?
[22:33] <aeon-ltd> dsnyders: do a 'sudo /etc/init.d/ntp stop' to kill the service
[22:33] <aeon-ltd> dsnyders: also why not just use the gui method?
[22:34] <dsnyders> aeon-ltd, What gui method?
[22:34] <aeon-ltd> !ntp | dsnyders
[22:34] <aeon-ltd> dsnyders: first link
[22:36] <dsnyders> aeon-ltd, That doesn't force an update.
[22:36] <aeon-ltd> dsnyders: ok
[22:37] <bnjmn> where are individual users' cron files stored?
[22:37] <veryhappy> hi have a problem in ubuntu: i want to configure tleds that it starts with wlan0 instead of eth0 how do i do that?
[22:38] <waaade> is there anyway to not have to answer the bot in ubuntu-unregged when i log on?
[22:38] <waaade> is that a nickserv thing?
[22:38] <aeon-ltd> waaade: register :)
[22:39] <waaade> aeon-ltd, cheers :)
[22:39] <DrPoO> How do I enable the PUT method in apache?
[22:39] <agentgasmask> Hi, Does anyone know if you can hilight and copy/paste text in a tty? I'd like to stay away from gpm and stick with the keyboard.
[22:39] <Gadgetwizard> can you get widgets to work in gnome?
[22:40] <dsnyders> DrPoO, You may wish to find an apache specific chat for that particular question.
[22:40] <aeon-ltd> Gadgetwizard: what kind of widgets?
[22:41] <Gadgetwizard> like the widgets you get in KDE
[22:41] <trism> agentgasmask: if you use screen, you can press alt+a [ , move to the test you want to copy with hjkl, press space to mark one end, move, space to mark the other end, and it will copy the text to a buffer, then you can press alt+a ] to paste it later
[22:41] <aeon-ltd> Gadgetwizard: theres desklets
[22:41] <aeon-ltd> !desklets
[22:42] <trism> agentgasmask: if you use byobu, alt+a [ can be replaced with F7
[22:42] <aeon-ltd> Gadgetwizard: or screenlets
[22:42] <S0lder> I have a question regarding my drive partitions
[22:42] <Mike_Flip> can someone help me set up bluetooth
[22:42] <Gadgetwizard> looking up now
[22:42] <agentgasmask> trism: oh, great! thanks, I use both screen and byobu, so I guess I'll have my choice. :)
[22:43] <S0lder> when i installed ubuntu it installed with one main partiotion and a 3GB partition. can I delete the 3GB
[22:43] <dwarder> in windows i use ctrl+shift tab to go to previous tab, why it doesn't work on linux?
[22:44] <dwarder> ctrl tab works though
[22:44] <gnubuntu> works for me dwarder
[22:44] <Mike_Flip> the 3 GB partition is probably the page file which you need
[22:45] <DrPoO> dwarder, works for me too
[22:45] <gnubuntu> so does shift tab
[22:45] <trism> dwarder: ctrl+shift tab should work too, if not, ctrl+page up, ctrl+page down works too
[22:45] <dsnyders> aeon-ltd, Okay.  /etc/init.d/ntp stop   ntpdate tock.utoronto.ca  /etc/init.d/ntp restart  seemed to do it for me.
[22:45] <VCoolio> bnjmn: enter 'crontab -e' to edit
[22:46] <llac> Good evening!
[22:46] <DrPoO> llac, yo!
[22:46] <Zelozelos> is there a way to configure the amount of buffer the movie player allows when streaming?
[22:47] <llac> hello DrPoO
[22:47] <Zelozelos> or is there a way to config totem to buffer more b4 it plays?
[22:48] <Variability> let us faq
[22:48] <aeon-ltd> dsnyders: ok, glad i could help
[22:48] <llac> How do I change theme for ubuntu?
[22:48] <aeon-ltd> !theme
[22:49] <aeon-ltd> !changethemes
[22:49] <dsnyders> Zelozelos, mplayer buffersize=X  X  is in megabytes.  Check the man page for details
[22:49] <llac> aeon-ltd: thank you
[22:49] <aeon-ltd> llac: your welcome
[22:49] <Mike_Flip> ubuntu is not detect my bluetooth adapter any hints?
[22:51] <Gaming4JC> ok guys, my attempt at convert a WinXP user is not doing well
[22:51] <Gaming4JC> Ubuntu refuses to even boot to LiveCD and continually turns off the monitor
[22:51] <Gaming4JC> :(
[22:51] <Zelozelos> dsnyders so do i just add that line to the config?
[22:51] <Gaming4JC> tried F6, noapi, unplugging monitor, you name it
[22:51] <Gaming4JC> I can't even get to a terminal :O
[22:52] <aeon-ltd> Gaming4JC: what type of pc?
[22:52] <Gaming4JC> aoen-ltd: http://www.ehow.com/facts_6824126_specifications-compaq-sr1901wm.html
[22:52] <kapcom01> hello, i have a proble with samba shares.. When i share a folder which is on my home then it works fine. When i share a folder which is on a separate partition i get "Unable to mount location : Failed to mount Windows share" on the computer that tries to access it.
[22:52] <dsnyders> Zelozelos, I think so.
[22:53] <aeon-ltd> Gaming4JC: yeah there was another person here a few days ago with problems with the nvidia 6150 gpu aswell
[22:57] <glaucous> Using pulseaudio volume control you can set the output device of an audio stream (vlc, music, whatever), is it possible to make this setting permanent (NOT default device)? (post: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9901434#post9901434)
[22:57] <Gaming4JC> aeon-ltd: Bummer... any proposed fix/workaround? :p
[22:57] <popbob> ubuntu sux
[22:58] <nogo> pulseaudio is fine, you just have to fix the bugs of ubuntu 10.04
[22:58] <popbob> i hack on osx.........
[22:58] <nogo> i have done that. no lag at all now
[22:59] <aguitel> how install last firefox version from ppa ?
[22:59]  * nogo is watch flawless movies with pulseaudio
[22:59] <nogo> s/watch/watching
[23:00] <estriker> Hi
[23:00] <Zelozelos> dsnyders nope dat dont work unless im adding to the wrong file/the wrong text,,,,where did u git that info?
[23:00] <Gaming4JC> Hmm any bug reports open on NVIDIA GeForce 6150 LE chipset?
[23:00] <Gaming4JC> We need one.
[23:01] <denverdave_> bobstro: thanks for the help about virtualbox earlier..
[23:01] <estriker> Has anyone a idea how to mount a windows share in fstab if i can connect to it with "smb://HSR;shueppi@vf3/skripte" in nautilus?
[23:01] <denverdave_> Im on Lucid and my mic wont work.. have checked out several threads.. many old.. any pointers?
[23:02] <Gaming4JC> Ok.... anyone else have ideas on getting Ubuntu to not turn off the monitor?
[23:02] <Gaming4JC> :P
[23:02] <Gaming4JC> NVIDIA GeForce 6150 LE chipset issue... Won't boot in LiveCD, etc, etc....
[23:02] <dsnyders> Zelozelos, from the mplayer man page.  You are using mplayer to play your videos, right?
[23:02] <Gaming4JC> :(
[23:03] <nogo> mplayer can play everything
[23:03] <cem````> that bot had a good question, how many hours are there in a day...
[23:03] <cem````> he stumped me
[23:03] <Kage> everyone remember to add this line to their .bashrc file:   alias MotherMayI=sudo
[23:03] <aguitel> anyway to install firefox-4.0 from ppa?
[23:04] <Zelozelos> dsnyders, yup, for ex if i goto a site, rt click open w movie player (or even if i let it play on the plugin player)  the buffering is too low to play it stops every second
[23:04] <bobstro> denverdave_:  glad to help.
[23:04] <dsnyders> Kage, cute!
[23:04] <cem````> haha awesome
[23:04] <zatan> hi, I am having issue with Rhythmbox, I click mouse twice time, and song doesnt start playing, its just going in a playlist and its not start playing , does anybody have ideas why its like this?
[23:04] <Zelozelos> dsnyders, n i know for sure its not my connection speed, 10+mps every time i test
[23:05] <jhaddad> anyone have a good guide on moving from redhat (centos) server to ubuntu server?
[23:05] <denverdave_> bobstro, : any pointers on getting my mic to work? :)
[23:06] <dsnyders> Zelozelos, what site are you connecting to?
[23:07] <Zelozelos> dsnyders, www.divxstage.com is one of them, but all of them that use that type of stream n plugin do it, all the others work pretty good
[23:07] <rug> Using the alternate CD installer (and expert mode), is it possible to install just the bare system (no xorg, no gnome dependancies, etc..) but still get apt?
[23:07] <Zelozelos> dsnyders, heres a link i u want 2 see an example  http://www.divxstage.net/video/gq06z10eql8xv
[23:07] <aeon-ltd> rug: yeah thats the server edition/minmal
[23:08] <rug> aeon-ltd: thanks
[23:08] <mac9416> After an update, when I boot I get a tinty black-on-white prompt in the top left. Any ideas what's up with that?
[23:08] <nogo> rug: like debootstrap?
[23:08] <mac9416> *tiny
[23:08] <Gaming4JC> AHA! You newbies I may have found the solution! http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-fix-ubuntu-10-04-lts-lucid-blank-screen-at-startup.html
[23:08] <Gaming4JC> lol ^^
[23:08]  * Gaming4JC goes to try them...
[23:08] <FloodBot2> Gaming4JC: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:08] <rug> nogo: I don't know.
[23:08] <xbonesx> is anyone able to send text to phones using empathy with yahoo account?
[23:09] <xbonesx> Gaming4JC: need help with the boot screen?
[23:09] <nogo> rug: i think, debian is from small to big, ubuntu is like old redhat/mandrake - from big to small
[23:10] <rug> nogo: I can see that you are typeing in english, but I really have no idea what you just said!  =)
[23:10] <xbonesx> Gaming4JC: i have the same card on my slimline, and i just get rid of the end of the line in the boot screen using "e" at grub 2 and changing it too nomodeset
[23:11] <nogo> rug: my words are not for dummies
[23:11] <nogo> rug: like zen
[23:12] <Gaming4JC> xbonesx: yes, but I couldn't even boot to LiveCD, it's not installed yet. Will try it out though thanks.
[23:13] <xbonesx> Gaming4JC: do you have a usb drive?
[23:14] <Gaming4JC> xbonesx: I have a portable drive, yes. But the HDD is a western digital SATA
[23:14] <xbonesx> Gaming4JC: doesnt matter
[23:14] <pedahzur> So, I'm having trouble with cron.  It's somewhat related to this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/upstart/+bug/592114 but not quite the same symptoms.  Cron starts at boot, but will not run the user cron jobs, even after editing or touching, until I restart cron after boot.  Has anyone seen anything like this?
[23:15] <xbonesx> Gaming4JC: you would just need to format the entire thing to fat32, i could teach you how if you would like?
[23:15] <Gaming4JC> xbonesx: Why would I need to format a portable drive to fat32 just to fix the monitor issue with Lucid's LiveCD?...
[23:16] <nuestra> To make irssi connect to freenode's port 7000 w/SSL, do I need to install and run the openssh server, or just configure the client?
[23:17] <nuestra> dur, i mean an SSL server, sry
[23:18] <dsnyders> Zelozelos, you could try -cache rather than buffersize
[23:18] <Gaming4JC> @Everyone: Going out for walk bbl ^^
[23:18] <Gaming4JC> viva ubuntu \m/
[23:18] <pedahzur> nuestra: Just need the client.  The SSL server is on the other end.
[23:18] <Zelozelos> dsnyders i think im onto something, i found this  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=471998
[23:18] <xbonesx> Gaming4JC: cuz with the liveusb you will have a grub type boot loader that you can edit the kernel execution line, by deleting the "splash" at the end of the line and putting "nomodeset" it will but just fine with your card
[23:18] <pedahzur> nuestra: irssi should pull in the required SSL libraries (OpenSSL) when you install it, if they aren't already installed.
[23:19] <denverdave_> Im on Lucid and my mic wont work and I cant seem to find anything to fix that.. any pointers?
[23:19] <nuestra> thanks
[23:19] <xbonesx> Gaming4JC: brb talk to you in a min
[23:21] <denverdave_> brb rebooting
[23:22] <mac9416> When I start up my laptop, I'm immediately dropped into a Gnome xterm session. When I kill Xorg, I get the login screen again, but the only login session option is xterm. Any ideas?
[23:22] <Zelozelos> dsnyders, nope that didnt do anything
[23:25] <xbonesx> Gaming4JC: im back so are you interested in doing that, cuz i dont think you can change what the livecd does without editing the actual files in the iso, which i dont know how to do
[23:28] <oracle> what else other than qemu is there
[23:30] <Ken8521> oracle, virtualbox is easy
[23:30] <oracle> ken8521, you think virtualbox will work in a server environment?
[23:31] <Ken8521> oracle, honestly, i don't know...
[23:31] <oracle> no problem
[23:31] <Ken8521> if qemu didn't, i honestly can't see why vbox would.
[23:31] <oracle> qemu needs kvm and my cpus dont support that
[23:31] <Ken8521> hmm
[23:31] <ikonia> oracle: try #vbox for vbox support
[23:32] <oracle> ikonia, cant you see im busy with ubuntu
[23:33] <ikonia> oracle: you're discussing vbox, you'll find #vbox is the correct support resource
[23:33] <oracle> im discussing alternatives to qemu
[23:33] <Shaul> kvm?
[23:34] <ikonia> oracle: no, you're asking if vbox will work in a server environment and you've explained why you can't use kvm
[23:34] <ikonia> !virtualisation | oracle
[23:34] <oracle> its a cpu feature which lets you virtualize software
[23:34] <ikonia> I kknow what it is
[23:34] <oracle> im not talking to you ikonia :)
[23:34] <ikonia> check the links in the post from ubottu
[23:35] <ikonia> oracle: then please stop discussing it in the channel, ubottu provides the information you want, and #vbox is the correct place for vbox discusison
[23:35] <oracle> just a sec need to install wine in virtualbox
[23:36] <trojan_spike> are we using jaunty or hardy?
[23:37] <ikonia> trojan_spike: what is your support question ?
[23:37] <trojan_spike> lol,, wah?
[23:37] <ikonia> trojan_spike: do you have an ubuntu support question ?
[23:38] <trojan_spike> 10.04,, is that jaunty or hardy
[23:38] <ikonia> 10.04 is karmick
[23:38] <Shaul> lucid
[23:38] <ikonia> oops, correct, lucid
[23:38] <ikonia> sorry
[23:38] <trojan_spike> thats it,, lucid,, slipped my mind,, thanks Shaul
[23:39] <xbonesx> "Copy a new “known good” xorg.conf file to the HD (I had to use sudo cp … otherwise I got permission problems)" where would i find a "good file" ???
[23:39] <Shaul> maverick 10.10
[23:39] <Shaul> that you can practice remembering :D
[23:44] <plitter> can i use dd on a windows xp iso to make a bootable usb stick?
[23:44] <aeon-ltd> plitter: google around for others who've tried
[23:44] <ppq> plitter, you should use unetbootin instead.
[23:45] <aeon-ltd> plitter: but i think it should be fine
[23:45] <ppq> ah, i misunderstood you, sorry
[23:45] <Hybris> Quick question: why do I get a "Cannot send to channel" message on another channel?
[23:45] <aeon-ltd> plitter: plus it usb, you'd only use around 20 mins to try it
[23:45] <plitter> i will try:)
[23:45] <flaccid> with apt command line. how can i see which repos a package would come from?
[23:46] <ppq> flaccid, 'apt-cache policy packagename'
[23:46] <bastid_raZor> flaccid: apt-cache policy packagename
[23:46] <flaccid> thanks guys!
[23:47] <Zelozelos> what is the alt for gstreamer/totem?
[23:48] <glaucous> I just installed Libreoffice using deb files, how do I start it? Can't seem to find the executable (Libreoffice command doesn't work, etc)
[23:49] <xamanu> Hi, I want to install Xubuntu on a system that has no boot support for usb drives. I just have a disc, that has a working boot-manager (same xubuntu iso) but the disc is somehow damaged and setup booting from it is not working. is there a way to indicate grup with a comando on start to boot from my usb install memory?
[23:50] <bastid_raZor> xamanu: grub2 can boot an ubuntu iso if you have it on the drive
[23:51] <xamanu> bastid_raZor but the disc i got is Xubuntu Live 10.04. no idea if this has grub 2... i guess not
[23:51] <bolat> Is it possible to turn 3D for VIA integrated graphics?
[23:52] <bolat> It works just fine on Windows...
[23:52] <Ken8521> bolat, really what it does on Windows is irrelevant.
[23:52] <Ken8521> Windows has drivers for VIA... linux is forced to use a generic one
[23:52] <denverdave> ok
[23:53] <lazyPower> After going through several workarounds, I'm still at a loss for adding facebook on gwibber. the elusive "add" button is still not appearing. I've completely removed, readded, tried from the -daily ppa, reset default browsers, cleared out cache files, removed my ever so handy couch-db, and more with still no luck. Has anyone had any luck getting it work?
[23:53] <denverdave> I ran alsamixer and found my mic in there and now I can here me breathing through my speakers :) but I still cant record using sound recorder
[23:54] <stbain> denverdave, I can relate
[23:54] <bolat> Ken8521, So, it's impossible, right?
[23:54] <Ken8521> to my knowledge, yes.
[23:54] <denverdave> stbain,  have you found any relief yet? hehe
[23:54] <mac9416> What command can I use to start Gnome panel?
[23:55] <stbain> denverdave, nah... I was hoping to use Ubuntu w/ a softphone for my Asterisk PBX, but I ended up just throwing my laptop on the desk. Phone on laptop (Winderz) while I code on the ubuntu box.
[23:55] <bastid_raZor> mac9416: gnome-panel &
[23:55] <bastid_raZor> xamanu: yes 10.04 xubuntu has grub2
[23:56] <mac9416> bastid_raZor, thanks. If that command doesn't exist, does it mean something is terribly wrong?
[23:56] <xamanu> bastid_raZor and how does it works? I just get the normal options (install, try live, memory test, etc)...
[23:57] <bastid_raZor> ubottu: tell xamanu about grub2
[23:57] <Zelozelos> is there a totem alternative?
[23:58] <ppq> Zelozelos, vlc, mplayer, ...
[23:58] <denverdave> stbain, bummer
[23:58] <bastid_raZor> mac9416: if you started with Ubuntu, then it means you've done some serious tinkering.
[23:58] <DroneWork> I used to use Mozy for my backup solution, but it doesnt seem to work with Linux?  Any solutions that do?
[23:58] <stbain> DroneWork, try http://jungledisk.com/
[23:58] <Zelozelos> ppq isnt totem the plugin for firefox to play movies- w mplayer?
[23:59] <DroneWork> ty
[23:59] <jags> hey i just added another ide drive to this old p4, I can see it in gparted, but not in the ntfs configuration tool, which is what I used to setup automounting on my other 2 drives
[23:59] <ppq> Zelozelos, yes, there's a totem plugin for browsers. but there are also vlc and mplayer plugins for browsers. for mplayer: gecko-mediaplayer