[14:29] <charlie-tca> Release Candidate Testing begins today for Maverick! Great job on the is release.
[16:15] <charlie-tca> mr_pouit, cody-somerville : Can we turn quadrapassel off in maverick. There is no point having it in the menu when it won't run.
[16:15] <charlie-tca> bug 561734
[16:38] <mr_pouit> it should work with 3d acceleration afaik (i.e. not in virtualbox)
[16:38] <mr_pouit> I'll check that when i'm back home
[16:38] <charlie-tca> It won't work at all here, on three hardware systems
[16:41] <charlie-tca> I would prefer it not be a choice, than to be a choice for part of the users
[16:51] <charlie-tca> nvidia does not have 3d acceleration without installing hardware drivers, too
[17:03] <cody-somerville> charlie-tca, fixed
[17:03] <cody-somerville> charlie-tca, the Germany mirror links
[17:03] <charlie-tca> Thank you
[17:08] <ochosi> charlie-tca: quadrapassel works just fine here
[17:09] <ochosi> but then again: i have 3daccel on
[17:09] <ochosi> maybe it doesn't without
[17:09] <charlie-tca> exactly
[17:09] <charlie-tca> It works for "some" users
[17:10] <davmor2> charlie-tca: it requires clutter which in turn requires 3d drivers :(
[17:10] <charlie-tca> But not all users have 3d drivers
[17:11] <charlie-tca> Older nvidia cards have no hardware drivers, newer nvidia MUST have hardware drivers installed to enable 3d
[17:11] <charlie-tca> VirtualBox will fail also
[17:11] <davmor2> charlie-tca: I agree but I think we'll be in the minority L(
[17:12] <charlie-tca> I do not want a program in the menus that only some users can use. They can install it themselves. 
[17:12] <ochosi> davmor2: why do you think you would be a minority?
[17:12] <ochosi> i guess i agree with you, charlie-tca 
[17:13] <charlie-tca> Hmm, I suppose release notes, too
[17:13] <ochosi> (not that it matters much :) )
[17:13] <davmor2> ochosi: because it's part of the default games package for ubuntu
[17:13] <charlie-tca> yes, it does matters much. I hate being the only voice of disagreement here
[17:14] <charlie-tca> davmor2: but the .desktop file can have "do not show = true"
[17:14] <ochosi> alrighty, i just meant since i'm not part of the team, that's all
[17:14] <charlie-tca> It does have it's own .desktop file
[17:15] <ochosi> davmor2: i have no clue what you mean, quadrapassel is a package of its own
[17:15] <davmor2> charlie-tca: but that neither solves the issue or frees up space and general public won't know how to access it
[17:15] <charlie-tca> hmm, true enough
[17:16] <ochosi> you can just remove the package quadrapassel from the default install (if you get a freeze exception)
[17:16] <charlie-tca> So, let's see how many people complain and file duplicate reports for something that should have been fixed... :-(
[17:16] <ochosi> depends on how many people play those games
[17:16] <charlie-tca> just that one, the rest work
[17:18] <ochosi> as i said before, it's fairly straight-forward to remove quadrapassel
[17:18] <ochosi> (without removing the others)
[17:18] <charlie-tca> That's what I think, too
[18:05] <charlie-tca> mr_pouit: everything except quadrapassel works in the live environment
[18:50] <charlie-tca> w00t! My internet connection hit 1.64kB/s... just 78 hours left to sync the alt-386 image
[18:53]  * charlie-tca thinks testing will take a while at this rate :-)