[09:21] Cimi, ping [11:17] kenvandine: not for long? :) [11:40] Cimi, ping [11:40] hi ronoc_narruc [11:41] hey [11:42] Cimi, I saw your tweet [11:42] ronoc_narruc: I have pushed a branch [11:42] but doesn't work correctly [11:43] Cimi, :( [11:43] I'll take a look [11:43] does the exposè event work? [11:43] yes [11:43] definitely [11:43] I've tried painting with red [11:43] but nothing is shown [11:44] right it must be the call at the end of the init method to make to make the bg invisible [11:44] you could try to fix my branch btw [11:44] it does draw the buttons in the right place [11:45] but they are drawn just when you press a button [11:45] something might be wrong somewhere [11:46] Cimi, cool I'll take a look in a bit, just chatting with mpt at the mo, thx for the help [12:28] Cimi, did you push those changes [12:28] just pulled and got nothing ? [12:30] ronoc_narruc: to a different branch [12:31] Cimi, where is it ?? [12:31] https://code.launchpad.net/~cimi/indicator-sound/background-gradient-bug-cimi [12:31] thx [12:33] Cimi, doesn't compile -> play-button.c:983: error: ‘X’ undeclared (first use in this function) [12:34] uncomment the define [12:34] in the beginning [12:34] right === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow [16:09] ronoc: did you try? [16:10] Cimi, hey, I did yes, no joy, njpatel recommended that I try using the gtkmenuitem instead of the eventbox [16:10] Cimi, will hopefully have time in the morning, right now I'm working on some spec stuff [16:14] good afternoon [16:21] jcastro, tedg: Is someone working on bug #637202? It has a lot of duplicates, and more keep trickling in. [16:21] Launchpad bug 637202 in indicator-application (Ubuntu) "indicator-application-service crashed on logon (affected: 186, heat: 953)" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/637202 [16:21] Maybe as much as 40 duplicates. [16:34] sense: I just got a ton of bugmail about that this morning [16:34] It's huge [16:34] and the stacktraces aren't very informative [16:34] kenvandine: is ted around today? [16:35] i think he should be [16:35] he was this morning [16:40] it's likely that this crash is on logout [16:40] it will go quiet when we turn apport off [16:40] users just see it on the next login [16:56] njpatel: there? [17:01] davidbarth seb128 if you have some design-related bugs from the dx team I have some time to work on before [17:01] friday [17:06] chaotic: why those sshots? [17:06] Cimi, how about my background bug [17:07] ronoc: I didn't play with menuitems yet [17:07] Cimi, apparently if you use a gktmenuitem directly and remove the use of the gtkeventbox and the parent gtkmenuitem [17:07] it may work [17:07] i was going to start on it now [17:07] but there are plenty of other things I could be doing [17:08] anyway I'm terrible at UI stuff [17:08] ok [17:08] will try [17:08] if you are stuck for things to do :) [17:08] Cimi, ^ [17:09] no worries, I have just 1 day of contract left :D [17:09] trying to be helpful [17:11] Cimi, hey [17:13] njpatel: HI [17:13] ops, caps lock :) [17:13] njpatel: I was wondering about speed issues and look: for example... why we need blur and gradient on left launcher? === JanC_ is now known as JanC [17:16] Cimi, I doubt that is what is causing speed issues (if I'm understanding you correctly) [17:17] Cimi, we're finding issues in the vala stuff (some wayward reference holding) which is causing leaks, and that would directly effect performance on intel [17:18] Cimi: nosey [17:19] njpatel: I see slowness hovering icons [17:19] I mean, they could be faster without blur [17:19] and I don't think the horizontal white gradient on tooltips is that nice [17:20] Cimi, sure, but that is the design [17:20] Cimi, it's something we can fix for natty, but to change the design now in unity would get me the wrath of the desktop team [17:21] ahaha true [17:21] I didn't say I want that in maverick [17:21] I was just wondering about speed and design decisions [17:22] right, so speed of effects is something we'll get better at for natty, the look is something chaotic would decide [17:23] njpatel: the gradient is not quite as intended to be honest [17:23] Cimi, to be fair, there was an update to the QL look very late in the cycle that we couldn't implement. They looked very nice [17:23] sshot? [17:23] don't have one on hand, it's on one of the bugs chaotic would know [17:24] chaotic, sure, but that needs to the tweaked over a few times I think, as values from the mockups don't translate well over to gl/netbook-screens [17:24] cimi: have uploaded [17:25] nicer [17:25] I could try implementing them if you want [17:27] Cimi: :) [17:27] chaotic: even though [17:27] chaotic: :P [17:28] chaotic: I still don't know why we are using black desaturated tooltips in light themes [17:28] I think we need to move the highlight proportional to the QL depth so oyu don't see much of it on a single line tooltip [17:28] chaotic: imho they are a bit out of place with the rest of the design [17:28] chaotic: I am talking about both unity and light-themes [17:29] they reflect the materials of the dash and some other things you haven't even seen yet [17:29] so, dropbox them :) [17:32] Cimi: all in good time [17:32] chaotic: ahah ok boss [17:37] Cimi: I might look at those materials for panels actually in the future [17:41] Cimi: in answer to: I still don't know why we are using black desaturated tooltips in light themes - ideally I want to get the white text to look like it is lit from behind, out of the dark background [17:42] Cimi: Mark wants a high contrast version of the theme - we need to research and start playing [17:45] chaotic: "high contrast" [17:45] ? [17:45] chaotic: what do you mean, something like High Contrast theme or just increasing contrast? [17:46] perhaps considering both [17:46] and looking into colour blindness, etc... [17:46] color blindness we are ok [17:54] Indeed, I haven't heard complaints from my father yet, and he is slightly colour-blind. :) [17:59] hmmm, I might blog to get a sense if anyone does have problems [17:59] ha [18:02] chaotic: color blindness should be between green and red [18:02] if we have only one tone (red) it will be ok