RiddellJontheEchidna: bzr branch lp:casper    if you want to do the change00:00
Riddellsee casper/scripts/casper-bottom00:00
lex79shtylman_: is it corrected the bug about dev tools? if so I can close the bug00:01
shtylman_lex79: I was able to install qt4-dev-tools :)00:01
Riddelland get rid of this one 00:01
lex79ok thanks00:01
Riddell34disable_kde_services:rm -f /root/usr/share/kde4/services/kded/notificationhelper.desktop00:01
JontheEchidnawhee, pushed00:08
RiddellJontheEchidna: erk I didn't mean to remove the whole of scripts/casper-bottom/34disable_kde_services00:11
Riddelljust that one line00:11
JontheEchidnahmm, I can't find notificationhelper in there00:14
JontheEchidnawell, there's stuff in there that needs cleaned up anyways (susefreespacenotifier -> freespacenotifier, remove update-notifier-kde.desktop entry)00:14
RiddellJontheEchidna: looking at debian/changelog this is the wrong branch00:15
RiddellI think you want lp:~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/maverick/casper/maverick00:15
JontheEchidnaI'll just revert it all then00:15
Riddellhow confusing00:16
macohow cyclical00:16
Riddelllex79: I get that bug with the General Font here running a live CD00:24
lex79no good then00:24
JontheEchidnaRiddell: http://pastebin.com/6xMyKc9s00:27
JontheEchidnaI feel I should ask, after almost deleting the whole 34disable_kde_services ;-)00:27
ScottKdebfx: Commented.00:30
ScottKIs the pending kdebase-workspace upload intended for RC or after?00:35
ScottKJontheEchidna: ^^^00:35
JontheEchidnahmm, I didn't have any intentions either way when I uploaded...00:35
RiddellJontheEchidna: looks good00:35
JontheEchidnaScottK: well, it's been around since lucid so I guess a few more days won't hurt00:36
* ScottK waves to Riddell.00:36
ScottKHow's today gone?00:36
RiddellScottK: good.  amazing how slow it is to build images though00:36
Riddellno big problems00:37
ScottKGlad to hear it's been good.00:37
Riddellwell no big problems besides gtk destroying the whole gnome stack, but that's not a concern for this channel :)00:38
macowait what how?00:38
ScottKRiddell: I'd blame people doing fire and forget uploads and not following up on how they go.00:39
ScottKmaco: Most of it fell over on other than i386 due to archive skew and no one retried it.00:40
Riddellmaco: gtk had archive skew issues, as did glib, libgnome and libsomethingelsegnomey, it's sorted now00:40
ScottK(It's not a coincidence that all the G stuff that affects us was retried and built).00:41
macolibsomethingelsegnomey? thats not one i remember working with :P00:41
Riddelljust one of their various "ooh we have some widgets and nowhere to put them, let's make a new library" libraries00:41
maconow that you mention it....that /does/ sound like gnome libs...00:42
lex79we are the best00:42
Riddelltrue, true00:42
macoand that is EXACTLY how they name their functions too!00:43
macoJontheEchidna: have you been poking at the enemy code?00:43
Riddellwe're in proper flame mode tonight, I blame apachelogger's influence :)00:43
macoheh 61 char function name00:45
JontheEchidnait's too easy :P00:46
maconow dont you dare comment that code00:47
RiddellI have to stop laughing, I'll wake up my flatmate00:47
lex79JontheEchidna: so I can put in progress this bug 650621 ?00:47
ubottuLaunchpad bug 650621 in kubuntu-notification-helper (Ubuntu) "No notification about restricted codec availability on live cd" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/65062100:47
JontheEchidnalex79: yes please. (it can also be bumped over to casper)00:48
lex79we are amazing00:48
macoheh akk adds to our gnome-teasing:00:54
maco<akk> Though I might add g_random_word_something_else_gnomey_cast_double_to_long_long_by_way_of_int()00:54
maco<akk> (thinking of libraries like pango and ... there's another one I always used to confuse with pango but now can't remember)00:54
ScottKnhandler: Would you please go slap whoever thought it would be a great idea to spam every Ubuntu member (some of us multiple times) about the A-O RMB position via Launchpad.01:11
nhandlerScottK: Yeah, I'll talk to him about that ;)01:36
ScottKnhandler: Thanks.01:58
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JontheEchidnaneat: http://erkie.github.com/05:28
apacheloggerlex79: knh should be turned off for live cd09:56
apacheloggeralong with most other kded modules09:56
apacheloggerlex79: is that a problem?09:56
apacheloggeroh noes!09:56
apacheloggerI missed a g function name flame09:56
apacheloggermeh :(09:56
* apachelogger has a good one for next time :D09:57
* apachelogger is back in graz \\o/09:59
Riddelldid you jog up the staircase yet?10:07
apacheloggerno, I shall do so tomorrow ;)10:17
smarterJontheEchidna: pling!12:08
smarterI've fixed the lock problem!12:09
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: nice JS link :)12:09
JontheEchidnasmarter: http://jontheechidna.wordpress.com/2010/09/28/qapt-1-0-3-hotfix-release/12:09
smarteroh :p12:10
JontheEchidnacheck/do _system->Lock, right?12:10
Riddellclaydoh: how's the release page?12:10
JontheEchidnaas it was, the only thing being locked was the archives directory12:10
smarterIt's all insane12:11
smarterthere's three damn lock files12:11
smarter/var/lib/dpkg/lock being the one that's always used, so I don't see the point in the others12:11
apacheloggermore locks are always good12:12
smarteryep, but to access files with apt-pkg you have to do a string lookup12:12
smarterwhich would be fine if it wasn't for the fact that there's no convention, so you get inconsistencies12:12
apacheloggerhttps://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/TeamReports is that all there is? :O12:13
JontheEchidnaas a bonus I made the lock/unlcok functions visible to applications via the worker12:13
apacheloggerJontheEchidna, smarter: what do you expect of a good video player?12:13
ulyssesapachelogger: yes:( I sent an e-mail to kubuntu-devel and kubuntu-users, bot nothing:(12:13
smarterapachelogger: don't let the screensaver kick in!12:14
apacheloggerulysses: maybe add general bugfixing for upcoming 10.10?12:14
ulyssesapachelogger: do it!12:14
apacheloggersmarter: is that all there is? :O12:14
smarterdragon doesn't, I hate it for that12:14
shadeslayerapachelogger: im going in for a UI rewrite... ill follow ktorrents example12:14
ulyssesapachelogger: we can add QApt 1.0.3 also as development12:15
smarterapachelogger: but open the video where it was left off12:15
apacheloggeragateau: is it the indicator plasmoid that messes up my systray's extended item list thing menu?12:15
Riddellulysses: new application focused KPackageKit12:15
apacheloggershadeslayer: do nt follow ktorrent12:15
shadeslayerwhy? :D12:15
apacheloggerI had a quick touch with its code12:15
agateauapachelogger: screenshot?12:15
apacheloggerit is like rekonq12:15
apacheloggerjust overengineered12:15
shadeslayernot codewise.. but UI wise12:16
apacheloggerI also do not find the UI terribly awesome :P12:16
apacheloggerbut if you think it suites your usecase...12:16
ulyssesRiddell: I'll do after the lesson12:16
shadeslayerapachelogger: any UI that you think looks awesome for zsync download manager?12:16
apacheloggeragateau: http://aplg.kollide.net/images/avatar/snapshot62.png12:17
apacheloggershadeslayer: well, what would you be using from ktorrent?12:17
apacheloggera list view?12:17
shadeslayerapachelogger: the list view of ktorrent12:17
apacheloggerI would use QML :P12:18
shadeslayeralso, like KGet does it12:18
apacheloggerbut that is another story12:18
agateauapachelogger: weird, I have never seen that before12:18
* shadeslayer needs to learn QML as well12:18
apacheloggeragateau: I think I even saw a bug report about it...12:19
shadeslayerapachelogger: i have that sometimes as well12:19
shadeslayer( the overlapping text )12:19
apacheloggeragateau: ^12:19
shadeslayerone sec http://imgur.com/wIq4a12:20
apacheloggeragateau: bug 63241912:20
ubottuLaunchpad bug 632419 in plasma-widget-indicatordisplay (Ubuntu) "Hiden items in systray are not well arranged" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/63241912:20
agateauapachelogger: ok, I'll have a look at it12:21
apacheloggershadeslayer: is your plasma locked?12:21
shadeslayerapachelogger: no12:22
apacheloggerso it is probably not related to that :/12:22
apacheloggervery weird issue doubtlessly12:22
shadeslayeri haz it with locked plasma as well12:23
agateauapachelogger: I can't reproduce it on either of my two machines, what items do you have in the tray?12:23
shadeslayerapachelogger: its like.. it only affects Message Indicator entry 0_o12:24
shadeslayeragateau: ^12:24
agateaushadeslayer: does not really help me to reproduce it12:25
apacheloggeragateau: the ones you see :P12:25
shadeslayeragateau: well i have the usual stuff and quassel in it.... thats the only app extra in systray12:25
apacheloggerthe device notifier thingy12:25
apacheloggerthe battery plasmoid, the networkmanager plasmoid, ktorrent, bluedevil and printer12:26
agateauapachelogger: can you provide shots of the "Display" and "Entries" of the tray config dialog?12:26
apacheloggeryou know12:26
apacheloggermaybe it is a config problem12:26
apacheloggeragateau: http://aplg.kollide.net/images/avatar/snapshot63.png http://aplg.kollide.net/images/avatar/snapshot64.png12:27
agateauapachelogger: thanks12:27
shadeslayeragateau: mine http://imgur.com/kF3Mt , http://imgur.com/02R0d12:29
* apachelogger sees nothing suspicious in the config12:29
agateaume neither12:30
agateaubut I still can't reproduce it :/12:30
* apachelogger nukes his plasma*rcs12:30
apacheloggerstill happening ...12:30
agateauapachelogger: If you disable "Message Indicator" does it look ok?12:30
apacheloggeragateau: no12:31
apacheloggeronly after restarting plasma12:31
steveireI recall signing up to do a developer week session a while ago about grantlee, but I can't find that now. Anyone know if it's coming up or was last week or something?12:32
agateauapachelogger: you mean disabling m.i and restarting plasma fixes it?12:32
apacheloggeragateau: well, then I have no mi12:33
apacheloggerbut the overlapping goes away12:33
apacheloggersimply deactivating mi will leave the overlapping behind12:33
Riddellsteveire: mm, good question12:33
apacheloggeragateau: ^ once newly activated12:33
agateauapachelogger: I am wondering if it could be some leftover of the indicator-display => message-indicator transition12:33
apacheloggeragateau: entirely possible12:33
apacheloggersteveire: this friday IIRC12:34
agateauapachelogger: is it a fresh install?12:34
apacheloggersteveire: google for ubuntu app developer week12:34
apacheloggeragateau: yes, except for the configs12:34
shadeslayeragateau: ive had this from a clean install tho12:34
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agateaushadeslayer: was it a clean install and clean user as well?12:35
apacheloggerdoesnt have to do with our /usr/share/kde4/services/plasma-applet-indicatordisplay.desktop either :(12:35
* apachelogger is running out of ideas12:36
Riddellsteveire: ah hah https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UbuntuAppDeveloperWeek12:36
Riddellsteveire: Friday12:36
shadeslayerbrand new install with my / nuked ( i have /home on / )12:36
Riddellapachelogger: did you do your slot yesterday?12:36
steveireOops. Sister had baby, won't be around on Friday.12:36
apacheloggerRiddell: yes12:36
steveireI'll take an open slot on Thursday maybe12:36
agateauapachelogger: you remember we worked together on this transition right?12:38
Riddellsteveire: go ahead and edit and I'll tell dholbach12:38
agateauapachelogger: iirc you wrote some javascript to handle it12:38
apacheloggeragateau: yeah12:38
agateauapachelogger: do you remember the path to the .js file?12:38
apacheloggersomewhere in kds12:38
steveireWould have been nice to get a notification about it coming up. Maybe whoever organizes it didn't know who I was...12:39
apacheloggeragateau: /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde4-profile/default/share/apps/plasma-desktop/updates/01-kubuntu-10.04.js12:39
agateauapachelogger: oh and can you pastebin your .kde/share/config/plasma-desktop-appletsrc ?12:39
agateauapachelogger: thanks12:39
apacheloggeragateau: http://paste.ubuntu.com/502584/12:40
apacheloggeragateau: I think it is a problem in the plasmoid code itself12:43
agateauapachelogger: what makes you think so?12:43
apacheloggerI nuked everything that could be related and yet I get the issue12:43
apacheloggerI even dropped our default setup12:43
agateauwas plasma off when you nuked the conf?12:43
agateaummm, weird12:44
agateauwe still ship the old .desktop file12:45
agateaucan you try to rm /usr/share/kde4/services/plasma-applet-indicatordisplay.desktop12:45
apacheloggeralready did :P12:45
apacheloggerplasma-desktop(8364)/libplasma Plasma::Applet::itemChange: Configuration object was requested prior to init(), which is too early. Please fix this item: QGraphicsWidget (this = 0x139c9b0 , parent = 0x0 , pos = QPointF(-1.67772e+07, -1.67772e+07) , z = 0 , flags =  ( ItemUsesExtendedStyleOption | ItemSendsGeometryChanges ) ) SystemTray::TaskArea (this = 0x13afb80 , parent = 0x13396b0 , pos = QPointF(0, 0) , z = 0 , flags =  ( 12:45
apacheloggerItemUsesExtendedStyleOption | ItemSendsGeometryChanges ) ) "Message Indicator" 12:45
apacheloggerCouldn't find node center. Skipping rendering.12:45
apacheloggerthink that is related?12:45
agateauapachelogger: not sure, but should probably be fixed anyway12:46
shadeslayerRiddell: bug 65104512:46
ubottuLaunchpad bug 651045 in Kubuntu Netbook Edition "Kubuntu Netbook ISO images are >800MB in size" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/65104512:46
* shadeslayer wonders why thats so large12:47
Riddellumm, we have no netbook ISOs12:48
apacheloggerbecause netbook images are targeted for usb sticks and not cds12:48
apacheloggerRiddell: maybe talking about lucid?12:48
apacheloggeragateau: I removed everything but bluedevil and kxkb and mi and I still get the bug12:49
Riddellapachelogger: he doesn't seem to be12:49
agateauapachelogger: good news, it seems I managed to reproduce it12:49
apacheloggernot exactly good news :P12:49
shadeslayerhes talking about http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu-netbook/daily-live/current/12:50
shadeslayeri think ...12:50
shadeslayer maverick-netbook-i386.iso       03-Aug-2010 13:05  801M  12:50
apacheloggeroh, I suppose netbook needs be dropped from ubuntu-cdimage?12:51
Riddellwell that's an easy rm -r command to fix12:51
shadeslayeralso .. what is kubuntu-kde4 ? :P12:51
shadeslayerlol .. 8.04 .. 12:52
apacheloggeroh, true, that is august 3 ^^12:52
apacheloggerRiddell, shadeslayer: what do you expect of a good video player12:54
shadeslayerapachelogger: does everything vlc can + more12:54
shadeslayer( fancy stuff )12:54
apacheloggermore precise please12:54
shadeslayerapachelogger: well... id say 1) easy to use UI ( this is like really really important ) 2) can play vids and stuff without having to install moar codevs12:55
shadeslayerhardware acceleration12:55
shadeslayer^ thats 3)12:56
shadeslayer4) inhibits suspend and locking of screen when playing vids12:56
shadeslayer5) has a option to disable/enable 412:56
shadeslayer6) based on Qt 12:57
shadeslayer^ should really be 2) 12:57
Riddellbased on KDE and Phonon please12:57
apacheloggershadeslayer: why 5?12:57
shadeslayerapachelogger: because you dont want to people haggling you with feature requests later12:58
apacheloggerfeature requests can be turned down :P12:58
apacheloggerwhy would one want to disable it?12:59
shadeslayerthis is like right at the top : ability to share meta data between last.fm and such12:59
apacheloggershadeslayer: last.fm is for audio :P12:59
apacheloggervideos do not have reliable metadata12:59
apacheloggermost video formats do not even support them in a sane way12:59
Riddellplays DVDs from DVDs and from files12:59
shadeslayerapachelogger: yeah, i mean like fetch metadata from wikipedia and stuff12:59
Riddellplays subtitles12:59
shadeslayerah subtitles13:00
Riddellplays DVB13:00
shadeslayernepomuk integration13:00
Riddellooh ooh, BBC iPlayer integration please13:00
shadeslayeryou can rate your favourite vid from your player13:00
shadeslayervideo streaming from links13:00
Riddellkpart for browser integration (optional)13:01
shadeslayera kpart for other apps to start13:01
shadeslayerability to minimize to systray13:01
* ScottK may have missed something obvious, but what are we congratulating jussi and rbelem for?13:02
shadeslayerstart from where last stopped ( dragon has this )13:02
Riddellno pointless systray icon13:02
debfxshadeslayer: do you watch videos in the systray? ^^13:02
RiddellScottK: you mean you don't keep up with their busy social lives on facebook?13:02
shadeslayerdebfx: no i do like to minimize them to systray when i pause them13:02
ScottKRiddell: What did I miss?13:02
shadeslayerScottK: they got married13:03
shadeslayermy M key is sticking...13:03
ScottKIt seems that would be a tough long distance relationship?13:03
apacheloggershadeslayer, Riddell: http://aplg.kollide.net/images/avatar/snapshot60.png <-- controls prototype sheytan and I were working on the other day13:04
shadeslayerapachelogger: NICE13:05
apacheloggerthe controls are QML there ^^13:05
shadeslayerwhoops... caps13:05
shadeslayerthat is awesome13:05
apacheloggermockup 13:05
shadeslayerapachelogger: make volume slider vertical13:05
apacheloggershadeslayer: tell that to sheytan when he comes back :P13:06
Riddellapachelogger: ooh pretty13:06
shadeslayerapachelogger: also make your seekbar filled for the portion it has covered13:06
apacheloggershadeslayer: that you'll also need to discuss with sheytan13:07
* apachelogger obeys the designers :P13:07
shadeslayerwhats your role in this then :P13:07
apacheloggerthe dev part :P13:07
shadeslayerboth of them are mockups?13:08
apacheloggerbtw, there is an inherit problem with phonon and QML ... QML is using a graphicsscene that however requires phonon to draw by request of the scene rather than via qwidget ... that however does only work in phonon-gst and latest vlc13:09
apacheloggergood thing this channel is logged13:09
Riddelluh oh13:09
apacheloggeralso, the way to get phonon into QML directly woud be to write a QML plugin in c++ and use a qgraphicsproxywidget to proxy the Phonon::VideoWidget13:10
* apachelogger is not sure how to surcome this, though he will probably opt for qwidgets with custom qstyle for starters13:11
apacheloggerQML still has some rough edges IMHO13:11
apacheloggerScottK: btw, what do you expect of a good video player?13:11
apacheloggershadeslayer, Riddell: thanks for the input so far13:12
shadeslayerapachelogger: how did you draw that transperent control bar?13:13
apacheloggershadeslayer: where?13:13
shadeslayerapachelogger: http://aplg.kollide.net/images/avatar/snapshot59.png13:13
apacheloggershadeslayer: that is a mockup13:13
shadeslayerapachelogger: http://aplg.kollide.net/images/avatar/snapshot60.png too?13:13
apacheloggergenerally you can do that using qgraphicsblureffect or what it is called13:14
apacheloggershadeslayer: no, that is a QML13:14
ScottKapachelogger: I click.  It plays.13:14
shadeslayerah :)13:14
apacheloggerScottK: is that all?13:14
ScottKThat's 90% of it.13:14
apacheloggerScottK: what is the other 10%?13:15
ScottKGivining me the same kind of controls my regular dvd player has for actual dvd playing.13:15
shadeslayerScottK clicks it doesnt > shows error dialog :P13:15
shadeslayers/clicks it doesnt/clicks, it doesnt13:16
ScottKOf course I want high quality smooth video, rich sound and video and sound in sync.13:18
shadeslayer^ hardware acceleration13:19
apacheloggerthat falls into the responsibility of phonon13:20
SputScottK: you want a radeon card then13:31
ScottKSput: No.  I want Intel to write decent drivers.13:31
SputI've given up on them, and I'm very happy with the open radeon drivers13:32
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debfxRiddell: the liblastfm 0.3.3 package is ready: http://people.ubuntu.com/~debfx/liblastfm_0.4.0~really0.3.3-0ubuntu1.dsc15:45
debfxamarok builds fine with it15:46
debfxagateau: I think you have targeted this on the wrong branch: https://code.launchpad.net/~agateau/amarok/mpris2-raise-fix/+merge/3687915:47
agateaudebfx: oh right15:48
ScottKdebfx: I hope you liked my comment on your application.15:48
debfxScottK: yes, thanks very much15:50
ScottKdebfx: You're welcome.  It's well deserved.15:50
agateaudebfx: created a new merge request15:51
debfxagateau: ok, but the upload should wait until the new liblastfm version is built15:52
agateaudebfx: no problem15:53
ScottKIf someone has a moment, kdelibs (not kde4libs) could stand a merge from Debian.16:04
shadeslayerScottK: ok ill take that up16:21
shadeslayer( kdelibs merge )16:22
ScottKshadeslayer: Thanks.16:22
Riddelldebfx: great thanks16:25
shadeslayerScottK: i have a headache from looking at the last merge :P17:06
shadeslayeralso.. you haz entered     - make sure control and control.in are in sync twice in last changelog :)17:07
shadeslayerScottK: can i do the merge tomorrow? 17:14
shadeslayeror is really really important ?17:14
ScottKshadeslayer: Tomorrow is fine.17:14
shadeslayerok.. ill do it tomorrow then :)17:14
shadeslayerits a huge merge.. and i have some trivial magazine work17:15
shadeslayeroh.. idea.. i can put in a article about kubuntu in the tabaloid17:15
ari-tczewRiddell: your last change added to liblastfm causes FTBFS on build clementine :/17:23
micahgis a problem with akregator not having a transparent system tray icon something worth tracking in LP, or should I just upstream it?17:27
micahgI'm having an issue with the new Xubuntu Bluebird theme17:28
ScottKAkregator has not been ported to the new dbusmenu, IIRC.17:32
ScottKlucidfox I believe said something about taking that on in the next development cycle.17:32
micahgScottK: k, but should I file a bug in LP about it?17:36
ScottKmicahg: Not really.  It would be slightly more useful to have a bug on bugs.kde.org, since it's an upstream issue.17:37
micahgScottK: k, will check and file if it's not there, thanks17:37
debfxari-tczew: I have prepared a new version of liblastfm that should fix it17:52
ari-tczewdebfx: nice! could you propose a fix as bzr branch?17:55
debfxari-tczew: Riddell is going to sponsor it, http://people.ubuntu.com/~debfx/liblastfm_0.4.0~really0.3.3-0ubuntu1.dsc if you want to have alook at it17:56
ari-tczewdebfx: when this version will be uploaded to maverick?18:02
JontheEchidnaafter RC freeze is lifted, at the least18:03
JontheEchidnadebfx: btw, could you throw the link to your wiki page at me once more? I'll write something after afternoon class18:05
shadeslayerdebfx: applied for what? :D18:10
debfxJontheEchidna: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FelixGeyer/MOTUApplication18:10
shadeslayerkubuntu-dev or MOTU ?18:10
debfxJontheEchidna: do you want a list of the uploads you sponsored?18:13
JontheEchidnadebfx: sure, neat. :)18:13
debfxJontheEchidna: http://paste.ubuntu.com/502736/ + all the cmake/qtwebkit transition uploads18:17
JontheEchidnaCommented. Now off to class18:20
shadeslayerdebfx: we should have a script to do that for us :D18:26
debfxshadeslayer: yeah but the lp api doesn't provide the required methods to write one (afaik)18:29
persiaIt ought, but it would be painfully iterative.  Probably easier to parse -changes email18:32
macopersia, shadeslayer: i have a bug report on lp for adding a sponsored packages section to +relatedsoftware19:57
macoor hmm maybe it was...oh i remember19:57
macoit was if i visit someone /else/'s +relatedsoftware, and i was a sponsor on one of the uploads, it should put an icon next to the upload to tell me19:58
yofelhm, just curious: why does kdeadmin build-dep on kdepimlibs and has no depends on kdebase anywhere, but the debug package depends on kdebase-runtime-dbg ?19:58
persiamaco, I suspect you'll have to code that :)20:01
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macopersia: i suspect i lack the skill20:06
persiabah.  It's python.  how hard could it be?20:07
macozope @_@20:16
macocan someone who uses kmail please try pasting an image into an email? itll ask inline or attachment. choose attachment. this results in crashyboom for me20:19
txwikingerHow difficult is it to customize Kdevelop to a special toolchain?21:42
claydohRiddell: yup, workin in the notes, got sidetracked by work, and this :22:52
JontheEchidnathat's... distracting ;)22:53
claydohI blame it on the cat, but it isnt his fault i put the darn laptop near his food dish22:53
claydohluckily I have dug up a somewhat working crt monitor that only flickers enough to be somewhat annoying22:54
claydohnow I have someon's attention, are there any recent issue to list for release notes? and any new fun  things to poit out?22:56
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debfxmaco: ping23:31
debfxmaco: have you verified that your changes from https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-default-settings/1:10.10ubuntu5 actually work?23:32
debfxI don't see how qtcurve parses our k-d-s config23:33
macodebfx: i havent done a clean install, no. i was going by the comments on the bug report saying that having that setting actually set in a config file is what fixes it23:33
macobecause qtcurve, if there's nothing actually in a config file, has its own whacked-out default23:33
maco(where whacked out = not the same as kde's default)23:34
macois it not working? :-/23:34
macocuz if not then i would guess its qtcurve *only* liking ~/.kde instead of checking the systemwide /usr/share/kde4/* stuff23:34
debfxqtcurve parses the files manually so it makes a difference if you set it in ~/.kde/share/config or /usr/share/.../config23:34
macowhich is harder to fix :-/23:35
debfxI'm not sure if it's still necessary23:36
debfxthat entry in kdeglobals causes bug #64950923:39
ubottuLaunchpad bug 649509 in kubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu) "System settings shows wrong General font by default" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/64950923:39
debfxwe can either fix the entry or remove it23:40
* lex79 falls from the chair23:53
* debfx helps lex79 up23:54
debfxlex79: i'll commit the fix to bzr once I succesfully branched it (takes ages)23:55
lex79that bug caused me headache, i didn't know about that change in k-d-s23:56
lex79thanks debfx23:56
debfxyeah I browsed like half an hour through kde sources until I discovered it ^^23:58

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