[00:00] <Riddell> JontheEchidna: bzr branch lp:casper    if you want to do the change
[00:00] <JontheEchidna> kk
[00:00] <Riddell> see casper/scripts/casper-bottom
[00:01] <lex79> shtylman_: is it corrected the bug about dev tools? if so I can close the bug
[00:01] <shtylman_> lex79: I was able to install qt4-dev-tools :)
[00:01] <Riddell> and get rid of this one 
[00:01] <lex79> ok thanks
[00:01] <Riddell> 34disable_kde_services:rm -f /root/usr/share/kde4/services/kded/notificationhelper.desktop
[00:01] <JontheEchidna> ok
[00:08] <JontheEchidna> whee, pushed
[00:11] <Riddell> JontheEchidna: erk I didn't mean to remove the whole of scripts/casper-bottom/34disable_kde_services
[00:11] <Riddell> just that one line
[00:11] <JontheEchidna> oh
[00:14] <JontheEchidna> hmm, I can't find notificationhelper in there
[00:14] <JontheEchidna> well, there's stuff in there that needs cleaned up anyways (susefreespacenotifier -> freespacenotifier, remove update-notifier-kde.desktop entry)
[00:15] <Riddell> JontheEchidna: looking at debian/changelog this is the wrong branch
[00:15] <Riddell> I think you want lp:~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/maverick/casper/maverick
[00:15] <JontheEchidna> I'll just revert it all then
[00:16] <Riddell> how confusing
[00:16] <maco> how cyclical
[00:24] <Riddell> lex79: I get that bug with the General Font here running a live CD
[00:24] <lex79> no good then
[00:27] <JontheEchidna> Riddell: http://pastebin.com/6xMyKc9s
[00:27] <JontheEchidna> I feel I should ask, after almost deleting the whole 34disable_kde_services ;-)
[00:30] <ScottK> debfx: Commented.
[00:35] <ScottK> Is the pending kdebase-workspace upload intended for RC or after?
[00:35] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: ^^^
[00:35] <JontheEchidna> hmm, I didn't have any intentions either way when I uploaded...
[00:35] <Riddell> JontheEchidna: looks good
[00:36] <JontheEchidna> ScottK: well, it's been around since lucid so I guess a few more days won't hurt
[00:36] <ScottK> OK.
[00:36]  * ScottK waves to Riddell.
[00:36] <ScottK> How's today gone?
[00:36] <Riddell> ScottK: good.  amazing how slow it is to build images though
[00:37] <Riddell> no big problems
[00:37] <ScottK> Glad to hear it's been good.
[00:38] <Riddell> well no big problems besides gtk destroying the whole gnome stack, but that's not a concern for this channel :)
[00:38] <maco> wait what how?
[00:39] <ScottK> Riddell: I'd blame people doing fire and forget uploads and not following up on how they go.
[00:40] <ScottK> maco: Most of it fell over on other than i386 due to archive skew and no one retried it.
[00:40] <Riddell> maco: gtk had archive skew issues, as did glib, libgnome and libsomethingelsegnomey, it's sorted now
[00:41] <ScottK> (It's not a coincidence that all the G stuff that affects us was retried and built).
[00:41] <maco> libsomethingelsegnomey? thats not one i remember working with :P
[00:41] <Riddell> just one of their various "ooh we have some widgets and nowhere to put them, let's make a new library" libraries
[00:42] <maco> now that you mention it....that /does/ sound like gnome libs...
[00:42] <lex79> we are the best
[00:42] <lex79> :P
[00:42] <Riddell> true, true
[00:42] <JontheEchidna> g_something_else_gnomey_cast_double_to_long_long_by_way_of_int()
[00:42] <lex79> lol
[00:42] <maco> GAHH
[00:43] <maco> and that is EXACTLY how they name their functions too!
[00:43] <maco> JontheEchidna: have you been poking at the enemy code?
[00:43] <Riddell> we're in proper flame mode tonight, I blame apachelogger's influence :)
[00:43] <JontheEchidna> :P
[00:45] <maco> heh 61 char function name
[00:46] <JontheEchidna> g_something_else_gnomey_sizeof_g_something_else_gnomey_function_descriptor()
[00:46] <JontheEchidna> it's too easy :P
[00:47] <maco> now dont you dare comment that code
[00:47] <Riddell> I have to stop laughing, I'll wake up my flatmate
[00:47] <lex79> JontheEchidna: so I can put in progress this bug 650621 ?
[00:48] <JontheEchidna> lex79: yes please. (it can also be bumped over to casper)
[00:48] <lex79> we are amazing
[00:54] <maco> heh akk adds to our gnome-teasing:
 Though I might add g_random_word_something_else_gnomey_cast_double_to_long_long_by_way_of_int()
 (thinking of libraries like pango and ... there's another one I always used to confuse with pango but now can't remember)
[01:11] <ScottK> nhandler: Would you please go slap whoever thought it would be a great idea to spam every Ubuntu member (some of us multiple times) about the A-O RMB position via Launchpad.
[01:36] <nhandler> ScottK: Yeah, I'll talk to him about that ;)
[01:58] <ScottK> nhandler: Thanks.
[05:28] <JontheEchidna> neat: http://erkie.github.com/
[05:28] <JontheEchidna> http://imgur.com/jaKiB
[09:56] <apachelogger> lex79: knh should be turned off for live cd
[09:56] <apachelogger> along with most other kded modules
[09:56] <apachelogger> lex79: is that a problem?
[09:56] <apachelogger> oh noes!
[09:56] <apachelogger> I missed a g function name flame
[09:56] <apachelogger> meh :(
[09:57]  * apachelogger has a good one for next time :D
[09:59]  * apachelogger is back in graz \\o/
[10:07] <Riddell> did you jog up the staircase yet?
[10:17] <apachelogger> no, I shall do so tomorrow ;)
[12:08] <smarter> JontheEchidna: pling!
[12:09] <JontheEchidna> plong
[12:09] <smarter> I've fixed the lock problem!
[12:09] <shadeslayer> JontheEchidna: nice JS link :)
[12:09] <JontheEchidna> smarter: http://jontheechidna.wordpress.com/2010/09/28/qapt-1-0-3-hotfix-release/
[12:10] <smarter> oh :p
[12:10] <JontheEchidna> :P
[12:10] <JontheEchidna> check/do _system->Lock, right?
[12:10] <Riddell> claydoh: how's the release page?
[12:10] <JontheEchidna> as it was, the only thing being locked was the archives directory
[12:11] <smarter> It's all insane
[12:11] <smarter> there's three damn lock files
[12:11] <smarter> /var/lib/dpkg/lock being the one that's always used, so I don't see the point in the others
[12:12] <apachelogger> more locks are always good
[12:12] <smarter> yep, but to access files with apt-pkg you have to do a string lookup
[12:12] <smarter> which would be fine if it wasn't for the fact that there's no convention, so you get inconsistencies
[12:13] <apachelogger> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/TeamReports is that all there is? :O
[12:13] <JontheEchidna> as a bonus I made the lock/unlcok functions visible to applications via the worker
[12:13] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna, smarter: what do you expect of a good video player?
[12:13] <ulysses> apachelogger: yes:( I sent an e-mail to kubuntu-devel and kubuntu-users, bot nothing:(
[12:14] <smarter> apachelogger: don't let the screensaver kick in!
[12:14] <apachelogger> ulysses: maybe add general bugfixing for upcoming 10.10?
[12:14] <ulysses> apachelogger: do it!
[12:14] <apachelogger> smarter: is that all there is? :O
[12:14] <smarter> dragon doesn't, I hate it for that
[12:14] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: im going in for a UI rewrite... ill follow ktorrents example
[12:15] <ulysses> apachelogger: we can add QApt 1.0.3 also as development
[12:15] <smarter> apachelogger: but open the video where it was left off
[12:15] <apachelogger> agateau: is it the indicator plasmoid that messes up my systray's extended item list thing menu?
[12:15] <Riddell> ulysses: new application focused KPackageKit
[12:15] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: do nt follow ktorrent
[12:15] <shadeslayer> why? :D
[12:15] <apachelogger> I had a quick touch with its code
[12:15] <agateau> apachelogger: screenshot?
[12:15] <apachelogger> it is like rekonq
[12:15] <apachelogger> just overengineered
[12:16] <apachelogger> horrible
[12:16] <shadeslayer> not codewise.. but UI wise
[12:16] <apachelogger> I also do not find the UI terribly awesome :P
[12:16] <apachelogger> but if you think it suites your usecase...
[12:16] <shadeslayer> hmm...
[12:16] <ulysses> Riddell: I'll do after the lesson
[12:16] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: any UI that you think looks awesome for zsync download manager?
[12:17] <apachelogger> agateau: http://aplg.kollide.net/images/avatar/snapshot62.png
[12:17] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: well, what would you be using from ktorrent?
[12:17] <apachelogger> a list view?
[12:17] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: the list view of ktorrent
[12:18] <shadeslayer> yus
[12:18] <apachelogger> I would use QML :P
[12:18] <shadeslayer> also, like KGet does it
[12:18] <apachelogger> but that is another story
[12:18] <agateau> apachelogger: weird, I have never seen that before
[12:18]  * shadeslayer needs to learn QML as well
[12:19] <apachelogger> agateau: I think I even saw a bug report about it...
[12:19] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: i have that sometimes as well
[12:19] <shadeslayer> ( the overlapping text )
[12:19] <apachelogger> agateau: ^
[12:20] <shadeslayer> one sec http://imgur.com/wIq4a
[12:20] <apachelogger> agateau: bug 632419
[12:21] <agateau> apachelogger: ok, I'll have a look at it
[12:21] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: is your plasma locked?
[12:22] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: no
[12:22] <apachelogger> so it is probably not related to that :/
[12:22] <apachelogger> very weird issue doubtlessly
[12:23] <shadeslayer> i haz it with locked plasma as well
[12:23] <agateau> apachelogger: I can't reproduce it on either of my two machines, what items do you have in the tray?
[12:24] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: its like.. it only affects Message Indicator entry 0_o
[12:24] <shadeslayer> agateau: ^
[12:24] <ulysses> confirm
[12:25] <agateau> shadeslayer: does not really help me to reproduce it
[12:25] <apachelogger> agateau: the ones you see :P
[12:25] <apachelogger> message-indicator
[12:25] <apachelogger> klipper
[12:25] <shadeslayer> agateau: well i have the usual stuff and quassel in it.... thats the only app extra in systray
[12:25] <apachelogger> kxkbd
[12:25] <apachelogger> the device notifier thingy
[12:25] <shadeslayer> bluetooth
[12:26] <apachelogger> the battery plasmoid, the networkmanager plasmoid, ktorrent, bluedevil and printer
[12:26] <agateau> apachelogger: can you provide shots of the "Display" and "Entries" of the tray config dialog?
[12:26] <apachelogger> m
[12:26] <apachelogger> hm
[12:26] <apachelogger> you know
[12:26] <apachelogger> maybe it is a config problem
[12:27] <apachelogger> agateau: http://aplg.kollide.net/images/avatar/snapshot63.png http://aplg.kollide.net/images/avatar/snapshot64.png
[12:27] <agateau> apachelogger: thanks
[12:29] <shadeslayer> agateau: mine http://imgur.com/kF3Mt , http://imgur.com/02R0d
[12:29]  * apachelogger sees nothing suspicious in the config
[12:30] <agateau> me neither
[12:30] <agateau> but I still can't reproduce it :/
[12:30]  * apachelogger nukes his plasma*rcs
[12:30] <apachelogger> still happening ...
[12:30] <agateau> apachelogger: If you disable "Message Indicator" does it look ok?
[12:31] <apachelogger> agateau: no
[12:31] <apachelogger> only after restarting plasma
[12:32] <steveire> I recall signing up to do a developer week session a while ago about grantlee, but I can't find that now. Anyone know if it's coming up or was last week or something?
[12:32] <agateau> apachelogger: you mean disabling m.i and restarting plasma fixes it?
[12:33] <apachelogger> agateau: well, then I have no mi
[12:33] <apachelogger> but the overlapping goes away
[12:33] <agateau> ok
[12:33] <apachelogger> simply deactivating mi will leave the overlapping behind
[12:33] <Riddell> steveire: mm, good question
[12:33] <apachelogger> http://aplg.kollide.net/images/avatar/snapshot65.png
[12:33] <apachelogger> agateau: ^ once newly activated
[12:33] <agateau> apachelogger: I am wondering if it could be some leftover of the indicator-display => message-indicator transition
[12:33] <apachelogger> agateau: entirely possible
[12:34] <apachelogger> steveire: this friday IIRC
[12:34] <agateau> apachelogger: is it a fresh install?
[12:34] <apachelogger> steveire: google for ubuntu app developer week
[12:34] <apachelogger> agateau: yes, except for the configs
[12:34] <shadeslayer> agateau: ive had this from a clean install tho
[12:35] <agateau> shadeslayer: was it a clean install and clean user as well?
[12:35] <apachelogger> doesnt have to do with our /usr/share/kde4/services/plasma-applet-indicatordisplay.desktop either :(
[12:36]  * apachelogger is running out of ideas
[12:36] <Riddell> steveire: ah hah https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UbuntuAppDeveloperWeek
[12:36] <Riddell> steveire: Friday
[12:36] <shadeslayer> brand new install with my / nuked ( i have /home on / )
[12:36] <Riddell> apachelogger: did you do your slot yesterday?
[12:36] <steveire> Oops. Sister had baby, won't be around on Friday.
[12:36] <apachelogger> Riddell: yes
[12:36] <steveire> I'll take an open slot on Thursday maybe
[12:38] <agateau> apachelogger: you remember we worked together on this transition right?
[12:38] <Riddell> steveire: go ahead and edit and I'll tell dholbach
[12:38] <agateau> apachelogger: iirc you wrote some javascript to handle it
[12:38] <apachelogger> agateau: yeah
[12:38] <agateau> apachelogger: do you remember the path to the .js file?
[12:38] <apachelogger> somewhere in kds
[12:38] <apachelogger> sec
[12:39] <steveire> Would have been nice to get a notification about it coming up. Maybe whoever organizes it didn't know who I was...
[12:39] <apachelogger> agateau: /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde4-profile/default/share/apps/plasma-desktop/updates/01-kubuntu-10.04.js
[12:39] <agateau> apachelogger: oh and can you pastebin your .kde/share/config/plasma-desktop-appletsrc ?
[12:39] <agateau> apachelogger: thanks
[12:40] <apachelogger> agateau: http://paste.ubuntu.com/502584/
[12:43] <apachelogger> agateau: I think it is a problem in the plasmoid code itself
[12:43] <agateau> apachelogger: what makes you think so?
[12:43] <apachelogger> I nuked everything that could be related and yet I get the issue
[12:43] <apachelogger> I even dropped our default setup
[12:43] <agateau> was plasma off when you nuked the conf?
[12:43] <apachelogger> yes
[12:44] <agateau> mmm, weird
[12:45] <agateau> we still ship the old .desktop file
[12:45] <agateau> can you try to rm /usr/share/kde4/services/plasma-applet-indicatordisplay.desktop
[12:45] <apachelogger> already did :P
[12:45] <apachelogger> plasma-desktop(8364)/libplasma Plasma::Applet::itemChange: Configuration object was requested prior to init(), which is too early. Please fix this item: QGraphicsWidget (this = 0x139c9b0 , parent = 0x0 , pos = QPointF(-1.67772e+07, -1.67772e+07) , z = 0 , flags =  ( ItemUsesExtendedStyleOption | ItemSendsGeometryChanges ) ) SystemTray::TaskArea (this = 0x13afb80 , parent = 0x13396b0 , pos = QPointF(0, 0) , z = 0 , flags =  ( 
[12:45] <apachelogger> ItemUsesExtendedStyleOption | ItemSendsGeometryChanges ) ) "Message Indicator" 
[12:45] <apachelogger> Couldn't find node center. Skipping rendering.
[12:45] <apachelogger> think that is related?
[12:46] <agateau> apachelogger: not sure, but should probably be fixed anyway
[12:46] <shadeslayer> uhh
[12:46] <shadeslayer> Riddell: bug 651045
[12:47]  * shadeslayer wonders why thats so large
[12:48] <Riddell> umm, we have no netbook ISOs
[12:48] <apachelogger> because netbook images are targeted for usb sticks and not cds
[12:48] <apachelogger> Riddell: maybe talking about lucid?
[12:49] <apachelogger> agateau: I removed everything but bluedevil and kxkb and mi and I still get the bug
[12:49] <Riddell> apachelogger: he doesn't seem to be
[12:49] <agateau> apachelogger: good news, it seems I managed to reproduce it
[12:49] <apachelogger> yay
[12:49] <apachelogger> well
[12:49] <apachelogger> not exactly good news :P
[12:50] <shadeslayer> ah
[12:50] <shadeslayer> hes talking about http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu-netbook/daily-live/current/
[12:50] <shadeslayer> i think ...
[12:50] <shadeslayer>  maverick-netbook-i386.iso       03-Aug-2010 13:05  801M  
[12:51] <apachelogger> oh, I suppose netbook needs be dropped from ubuntu-cdimage?
[12:51] <shadeslayer> aye
[12:51] <Riddell> well that's an easy rm -r command to fix
[12:51] <shadeslayer> also .. what is kubuntu-kde4 ? :P
[12:52] <shadeslayer> lol .. 8.04 .. 
[12:52] <apachelogger> oh, true, that is august 3 ^^
[12:53] <Riddell> gone
[12:54] <apachelogger> Riddell, shadeslayer: what do you expect of a good video player
[12:54] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: does everything vlc can + more
[12:54] <shadeslayer> ( fancy stuff )
[12:54] <apachelogger> more precise please
[12:55] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: well... id say 1) easy to use UI ( this is like really really important ) 2) can play vids and stuff without having to install moar codevs
[12:55] <shadeslayer> *codecs
[12:55] <shadeslayer> ohh
[12:55] <shadeslayer> hardware acceleration
[12:56] <shadeslayer> ^ thats 3)
[12:56] <shadeslayer> 4) inhibits suspend and locking of screen when playing vids
[12:56] <shadeslayer> 5) has a option to disable/enable 4
[12:57] <shadeslayer> 6) based on Qt 
[12:57] <shadeslayer> ^ should really be 2) 
[12:57] <Riddell> based on KDE and Phonon please
[12:57] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: why 5?
[12:58] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: because you dont want to people haggling you with feature requests later
[12:58] <apachelogger> feature requests can be turned down :P
[12:58] <shadeslayer> :>
[12:58] <shadeslayer> ohhhh
[12:59] <apachelogger> why would one want to disable it?
[12:59] <shadeslayer> this is like right at the top : ability to share meta data between last.fm and such
[12:59] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: last.fm is for audio :P
[12:59] <apachelogger> videos do not have reliable metadata
[12:59] <apachelogger> most video formats do not even support them in a sane way
[12:59] <Riddell> plays DVDs from DVDs and from files
[12:59] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: yeah, i mean like fetch metadata from wikipedia and stuff
[12:59] <Riddell> plays subtitles
[13:00] <shadeslayer> ah subtitles
[13:00] <Riddell> plays DVB
[13:00] <shadeslayer> nepomuk integration
[13:00] <Riddell> ooh ooh, BBC iPlayer integration please
[13:00] <shadeslayer> you can rate your favourite vid from your player
[13:00] <shadeslayer> video streaming from links
[13:01] <Riddell> kpart for browser integration (optional)
[13:01] <shadeslayer> a kpart for other apps to start
[13:01] <shadeslayer> :D
[13:01] <apachelogger> ^^
[13:01] <shadeslayer> ability to minimize to systray
[13:02]  * ScottK may have missed something obvious, but what are we congratulating jussi and rbelem for?
[13:02] <shadeslayer> start from where last stopped ( dragon has this )
[13:02] <Riddell> no pointless systray icon
[13:02] <debfx> shadeslayer: do you watch videos in the systray? ^^
[13:02] <Riddell> ScottK: you mean you don't keep up with their busy social lives on facebook?
[13:02] <shadeslayer> debfx: no i do like to minimize them to systray when i pause them
[13:02] <ScottK> No.
[13:02] <ScottK> Riddell: What did I miss?
[13:03] <shadeslayer> ScottK: they got married
[13:03] <shadeslayer> my M key is sticking...
[13:03] <ScottK> It seems that would be a tough long distance relationship?
[13:04] <apachelogger> ROFL
[13:04] <shadeslayer> lulz
[13:04] <apachelogger> shadeslayer, Riddell: http://aplg.kollide.net/images/avatar/snapshot60.png <-- controls prototype sheytan and I were working on the other day
[13:05] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: NICE
[13:05] <apachelogger> the controls are QML there ^^
[13:05] <shadeslayer> whoops... caps
[13:05] <apachelogger> http://aplg.kollide.net/images/avatar/snapshot59.png
[13:05] <shadeslayer> that is awesome
[13:05] <apachelogger> mockup 
[13:05] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: make volume slider vertical
[13:06] <shadeslayer> also
[13:06] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: tell that to sheytan when he comes back :P
[13:06] <Riddell> apachelogger: ooh pretty
[13:06] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: also make your seekbar filled for the portion it has covered
[13:07] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: that you'll also need to discuss with sheytan
[13:07]  * apachelogger obeys the designers :P
[13:07] <shadeslayer> 0_o
[13:07] <shadeslayer> whats your role in this then :P
[13:07] <apachelogger> the dev part :P
[13:08] <shadeslayer> both of them are mockups?
[13:09] <apachelogger> btw, there is an inherit problem with phonon and QML ... QML is using a graphicsscene that however requires phonon to draw by request of the scene rather than via qwidget ... that however does only work in phonon-gst and latest vlc
[13:09] <apachelogger> good thing this channel is logged
[13:09] <apachelogger> :D
[13:09] <Riddell> uh oh
[13:10] <apachelogger> also, the way to get phonon into QML directly woud be to write a QML plugin in c++ and use a qgraphicsproxywidget to proxy the Phonon::VideoWidget
[13:11]  * apachelogger is not sure how to surcome this, though he will probably opt for qwidgets with custom qstyle for starters
[13:11] <apachelogger> QML still has some rough edges IMHO
[13:11] <apachelogger> ScottK: btw, what do you expect of a good video player?
[13:12] <apachelogger> shadeslayer, Riddell: thanks for the input so far
[13:12] <shadeslayer> :)
[13:13] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: how did you draw that transperent control bar?
[13:13] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: where?
[13:13] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: http://aplg.kollide.net/images/avatar/snapshot59.png
[13:13] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: that is a mockup
[13:13] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: http://aplg.kollide.net/images/avatar/snapshot60.png too?
[13:14] <apachelogger> generally you can do that using qgraphicsblureffect or what it is called
[13:14] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: no, that is a QML
[13:14] <ScottK> apachelogger: I click.  It plays.
[13:14] <shadeslayer> ah :)
[13:14] <apachelogger> ScottK: is that all?
[13:14] <ScottK> That's 90% of it.
[13:15] <apachelogger> ScottK: what is the other 10%?
[13:15] <ScottK> Givining me the same kind of controls my regular dvd player has for actual dvd playing.
[13:15] <shadeslayer> ScottK clicks it doesnt > shows error dialog :P
[13:16] <shadeslayer> s/clicks it doesnt/clicks, it doesnt
[13:18] <ScottK> Of course I want high quality smooth video, rich sound and video and sound in sync.
[13:19] <shadeslayer> ^ hardware acceleration
[13:20] <apachelogger> that falls into the responsibility of phonon
[13:21] <shadeslayer> bbl
[13:31] <Sput> ScottK: you want a radeon card then
[13:31] <Sput> :>
[13:31] <ScottK> Sput: No.  I want Intel to write decent drivers.
[13:32] <Sput> I've given up on them, and I'm very happy with the open radeon drivers
[15:45] <debfx> Riddell: the liblastfm 0.3.3 package is ready: http://people.ubuntu.com/~debfx/liblastfm_0.4.0~really0.3.3-0ubuntu1.dsc
[15:46] <debfx> amarok builds fine with it
[15:47] <debfx> agateau: I think you have targeted this on the wrong branch: https://code.launchpad.net/~agateau/amarok/mpris2-raise-fix/+merge/36879
[15:48] <agateau> debfx: oh right
[15:48] <ScottK> debfx: I hope you liked my comment on your application.
[15:50] <debfx> ScottK: yes, thanks very much
[15:50] <ScottK> debfx: You're welcome.  It's well deserved.
[15:51] <agateau> debfx: created a new merge request
[15:52] <debfx> agateau: ok, but the upload should wait until the new liblastfm version is built
[15:53] <agateau> debfx: no problem
[16:04] <ScottK> If someone has a moment, kdelibs (not kde4libs) could stand a merge from Debian.
[16:21] <shadeslayer> ScottK: ok ill take that up
[16:22] <shadeslayer> ( kdelibs merge )
[16:22] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Thanks.
[16:25] <Riddell> debfx: great thanks
[17:06] <shadeslayer> ScottK: i have a headache from looking at the last merge :P
[17:07] <shadeslayer> also.. you haz entered     - make sure control and control.in are in sync twice in last changelog :)
[17:14] <shadeslayer> ScottK: can i do the merge tomorrow? 
[17:14] <shadeslayer> or is really really important ?
[17:14] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Tomorrow is fine.
[17:14] <shadeslayer> ok.. ill do it tomorrow then :)
[17:15] <shadeslayer> its a huge merge.. and i have some trivial magazine work
[17:15] <shadeslayer> oh.. idea.. i can put in a article about kubuntu in the tabaloid
[17:23] <ari-tczew> Riddell: your last change added to liblastfm causes FTBFS on build clementine :/
[17:27] <micahg> is a problem with akregator not having a transparent system tray icon something worth tracking in LP, or should I just upstream it?
[17:28] <micahg> I'm having an issue with the new Xubuntu Bluebird theme
[17:32] <ScottK> Akregator has not been ported to the new dbusmenu, IIRC.
[17:32] <ScottK> lucidfox I believe said something about taking that on in the next development cycle.
[17:36] <micahg> ScottK: k, but should I file a bug in LP about it?
[17:37] <ScottK> micahg: Not really.  It would be slightly more useful to have a bug on bugs.kde.org, since it's an upstream issue.
[17:37] <micahg> ScottK: k, will check and file if it's not there, thanks
[17:52] <debfx> ari-tczew: I have prepared a new version of liblastfm that should fix it
[17:55] <ari-tczew> debfx: nice! could you propose a fix as bzr branch?
[17:56] <debfx> ari-tczew: Riddell is going to sponsor it, http://people.ubuntu.com/~debfx/liblastfm_0.4.0~really0.3.3-0ubuntu1.dsc if you want to have alook at it
[18:02] <ari-tczew> debfx: when this version will be uploaded to maverick?
[18:03] <JontheEchidna> after RC freeze is lifted, at the least
[18:05] <JontheEchidna> debfx: btw, could you throw the link to your wiki page at me once more? I'll write something after afternoon class
[18:10] <shadeslayer> debfx: applied for what? :D
[18:10] <debfx> JontheEchidna: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FelixGeyer/MOTUApplication
[18:10] <shadeslayer> kubuntu-dev or MOTU ?
[18:10] <shadeslayer> ah
[18:13] <debfx> JontheEchidna: do you want a list of the uploads you sponsored?
[18:13] <JontheEchidna> debfx: sure, neat. :)
[18:17] <debfx> JontheEchidna: http://paste.ubuntu.com/502736/ + all the cmake/qtwebkit transition uploads
[18:20] <JontheEchidna> Commented. Now off to class
[18:26] <shadeslayer> debfx: we should have a script to do that for us :D
[18:29] <debfx> shadeslayer: yeah but the lp api doesn't provide the required methods to write one (afaik)
[18:29] <shadeslayer> :(
[18:32] <persia> It ought, but it would be painfully iterative.  Probably easier to parse -changes email
[19:57] <maco> persia, shadeslayer: i have a bug report on lp for adding a sponsored packages section to +relatedsoftware
[19:57] <maco> or hmm maybe it was...oh i remember
[19:58] <maco> it was if i visit someone /else/'s +relatedsoftware, and i was a sponsor on one of the uploads, it should put an icon next to the upload to tell me
[19:58] <yofel> hm, just curious: why does kdeadmin build-dep on kdepimlibs and has no depends on kdebase anywhere, but the debug package depends on kdebase-runtime-dbg ?
[20:01] <persia> maco, I suspect you'll have to code that :)
[20:06] <maco> persia: i suspect i lack the skill
[20:07] <persia> bah.  It's python.  how hard could it be?
[20:16] <maco> zope @_@
[20:19] <maco> can someone who uses kmail please try pasting an image into an email? itll ask inline or attachment. choose attachment. this results in crashyboom for me
[21:42] <txwikinger> How difficult is it to customize Kdevelop to a special toolchain?
[22:52] <claydoh> Riddell: yup, workin in the notes, got sidetracked by work, and this :
[22:52] <claydoh> http://yfrog.com/8b20100929170426jpg
[22:52] <claydoh> http://yfrog.com/8b20100929170426j
[22:52] <claydoh> err
[22:53] <JontheEchidna> that's... distracting ;)
[22:53] <claydoh> I blame it on the cat, but it isnt his fault i put the darn laptop near his food dish
[22:54] <claydoh> luckily I have dug up a somewhat working crt monitor that only flickers enough to be somewhat annoying
[22:56] <claydoh> now I have someon's attention, are there any recent issue to list for release notes? and any new fun  things to poit out?
[23:31] <debfx> maco: ping
[23:31] <maco> pong
[23:32] <debfx> maco: have you verified that your changes from https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-default-settings/1:10.10ubuntu5 actually work?
[23:33] <debfx> I don't see how qtcurve parses our k-d-s config
[23:33] <maco> debfx: i havent done a clean install, no. i was going by the comments on the bug report saying that having that setting actually set in a config file is what fixes it
[23:33] <maco> because qtcurve, if there's nothing actually in a config file, has its own whacked-out default
[23:34] <maco> (where whacked out = not the same as kde's default)
[23:34] <maco> is it not working? :-/
[23:34] <maco> cuz if not then i would guess its qtcurve *only* liking ~/.kde instead of checking the systemwide /usr/share/kde4/* stuff
[23:34] <debfx> qtcurve parses the files manually so it makes a difference if you set it in ~/.kde/share/config or /usr/share/.../config
[23:35] <maco> which is harder to fix :-/
[23:36] <debfx> I'm not sure if it's still necessary
[23:39] <debfx> that entry in kdeglobals causes bug #649509
[23:40] <debfx> we can either fix the entry or remove it
[23:53]  * lex79 falls from the chair
[23:54]  * debfx helps lex79 up
[23:55] <debfx> lex79: i'll commit the fix to bzr once I succesfully branched it (takes ages)
[23:56] <lex79> that bug caused me headache, i didn't know about that change in k-d-s
[23:56] <lex79> thanks debfx
[23:58] <debfx> yeah I browsed like half an hour through kde sources until I discovered it ^^