[00:24] <Craigwdy2k> I'm trying to file my SeaMonkey Adobe Flash Player 9/27/10 binary tarball bug right now...  How do I determine if the bug is a security risk or not...?  I couldn't help but notice the checkbox there for it...
[00:26] <Craigwdy2k> I just signed up for a Launchpad Login Services account...  Is this a Universal Login System that Canonical/Ubuntu employ: will this same login work to get access to to help forums too...?
[00:27] <Craigwdy2k> get access to help*
[00:51] <Craigwdy2k> How do I enlarge/resize screenshot PNGs with The GIMP...?  I have to admit: the images when viewed online are quite small & unviewable...
[01:06] <Craigwdy2k> I just installed the tutorial package: grokking-the-gimp...  Where does the tutorial file get installed to by default & what format is it in exactly...?
[01:19] <amichair> is it possible to assign audio to two different output devices simultaniously (in multimedia settings)?
[02:01] <jexmex> hi guys, it seems my kubuntu install does not like playing with windows....I will be running synergy just fine, but it drops connection, and then the windows pc and the linux pc can no longer communicate
[02:01] <jexmex> and I cannot ping any other computer from the linux pc
[02:02] <jexmex> but can from the windows pc, so it has to be the linux pc (kubuntu)
[02:23] <mplabs> Hello!
[02:23] <mplabs> I have a big problem. I was upgrading my system to 10.04 but now its all broken!
[02:24] <mplabs> I tried using dpkg --configure -a but I have tons of incomplete dependences !
[02:24] <maco> sudo apt-get install -f
[02:25] <mplabs> well, I guess it will be the same, I dont have many packages that are required
[02:26] <mplabs> My source.list after the upgrade: http://pastebin.com:80/spam.php?i=mjT9kJ8i
[02:26] <mplabs> sorry, it is: http://pastebin.com:80/mjT9kJ8i *
[02:27] <mplabs> if I try to do safe-upgrade: http://pastebin.com:80/U4qfukuy
[02:27] <mplabs> any help please ?
[02:28] <mplabs> I am from a live CD, I cant use internet there
[02:42] <mplabs> hey, please, it is important
[02:42] <mplabs> I dont know what to do
[04:32] <hagabaka> I installed wubi on a windows netbook, and when I try to boot into ubuntu, it shows just a flashing cursor after grub. What should I do?
[04:52] <sinman> good evening everyone
[04:52] <sinman> is there a way i can set the power management in kubuntu?
[05:32] <Qwert> Error after kernel update - (process 306) : GLib-WARNING**: getpwuid_r(): failed due to unknown user id(0) | How can I fix this?
[05:35] <Qwert> Anyone?
[05:55] <Qwert> Anyone?
[06:08] <linux> test
[06:25] <Qwert> The default network connection for kubuntu is Auto eth0, how can I edit the settings for it? In manage connections, why don't I see this connection listed?
[06:36] <Qwert> What is the default network connection for Kubuntu
[06:36] <Qwert> ?
[06:38] <Qwert> bazhang, How to see the settings of kwin?
[06:42]  * Qwert waves
[07:19] <darkdelusions> I have returned :)
[07:30] <knubbze> hi there, why is there no `Add' button under `Network Connections' -> `VPN' ?
[07:46] <mcbelme> Wola
[07:46] <mcbelme> uio
[09:52] <jmux> Hi - I have opened a Lauchpad bug for Lucid (#636488) and got it closed with comment: "Fixed in Maverick, open a task for Lucid, if you need a fix." So how and where to open a task? I just added a nomination for Lucid...
[10:05] <faLUCE> hi. I have wmctrl_1.07-6.diff.gz and a directory named wmctrl-1.07, which contains the file(s) that need to be patched. how can I apply the patch? thanks
[10:58] <avihay> faLUCE: try man patch    or  read http://linux.die.net/man/1/patch
[11:02] <knubbze> hi
[11:02] <knubbze> when I plug my earphones into my laptop the music still is played on the speakers
[11:02] <knubbze> how do I change this behaviour?
[11:06] <BajK> Does KDE automatically change the "Computer" icon according to whether it's a notebook or desktop computer or was the laptop icon  http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ee/KDE_4.0.png in kde 4.0 just replaced then?
[11:10] <volodya> knubbze: you might want to google for magic options to pass to driver.
[11:10] <volodya> knubbze: this, IIUC, means the driver is not actually aware there's headphone jack
[11:11] <avihay> knubbze: yeh, you better find out your exact soundcard model first
[11:12] <avihay> volodya: not necessarily, my driver's default was to switch to 5.1 mode when you plug something in
[11:13] <volodya> avihay: well, there are many ways this can break.
[11:13]  * volodya does not even know how 5.1 can travel over 2-wire line ;-)
[11:14] <knubbze> Realtek ID 670
[11:14] <knubbze> that's what I have
[11:14] <avihay> the internal speakers were the front, the earphons were back, and the mic or line in turned to center or sub
[11:15] <knubbze> currently downloading something from the realtek site
[11:15] <avihay> just google the exact model number, the word linux or ubuntu and the word earphones
[11:15] <knubbze> okay
[11:16] <avihay> model name from lspci or the likes of it
[11:18] <knubbze> knubbze@shirion:~/hda-verb-0.3$ aplay -l
[11:18] <knubbze> **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
[11:18] <knubbze> card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: HDA Generic [HDA Generic] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[11:19] <knubbze> I am confused
[11:20] <volodya> knubbze: why? aplay is not supposed to give much details.
[11:20] <knubbze> oh, how would I find out my exact model number then
[11:20] <volodya> Use either lspci, or just your laptop model in google seach.
[11:21] <knubbze> knubbze@shirion:~/hda-verb-0.3$ lspci | grep Audio
[11:21] <knubbze> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset High Definition Audio (rev 06)
[11:21] <knubbze> 01:00.1 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc Juniper HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 5700 Series]
[11:21] <knubbze> so the intel thing is my exact model number?
[11:25] <avihay> I guess
[11:29] <LexSmooth> where is ru chanell?
[11:30] <avihay> !ru | LexSmooth
[11:31] <avihay> knubbze: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1473625.html   look at the answer from iavor   , something like that solved the problem for me
[11:31] <LexSmooth> Подскажите где тут найти русский канал?
[11:33] <avihay> umm, are you looking for channels in russian? or ubuntu/kubuntu support channels?
[11:34] <LexSmooth> yes
[11:36] <avihay> yes for the first or for the second? if you need ubuntu support in russien, go to #ubuntu-ru
[11:44] <pater> hello
[11:49] <pater> anybody from greece
[12:04] <mplabs> Hello guys!
[12:04] <mplabs> I was doing an upgrade to Lucid but now is it all broken ! Here is what I have if I do safe-upgrade: http://pastebin.com/tk7xMnCb, and here is my source.list: http://pastebin.com/j6LDUDV8, any help please ? I can't execute any application that use gtk for example, I think it's not configured
[12:04] <mplabs> I don't have some important packages configured like libgtk2.0-0 g++ kdebase and so on !
[12:04] <mplabs> Please help me, and thank you!
[12:46] <Apocalypse_dn> Hi guys! can someone tell me why I can't get KAuth to accept my password? though kdesudo works fine
[13:09] <erendgen> всем привет
[13:09] <erendgen> ау
[13:09] <erendgen> ау
[13:09] <FloodBotK1> erendgen: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:09] <erendgen> кто тут делаешь
[13:12] <Monkey> Salut
[13:12] <Monkey> Delir
[13:57] <chuckf> 08:55:57 -!- fldc_ [~fldc@91.90.25.232] has joined #kubuntu
[14:04] <bruno_> salut
[14:22] <lucidfox> "You can switch kubuntu to the Gnome style notifications." <-- !!!
[14:22] <lucidfox> I can use notify-osd?
[14:55] <spad> !list
[15:00] <BluesKaj> howdy folks
[15:04] <bad-boy> ?\
[15:04] <bad-boy> ?
[15:04] <bad-boy> ?
[15:04] <bad-boy> ?
[15:04] <FloodBotK1> bad-boy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:04] <bad-boy> anybody here?
[15:06] <niteye> yep me
[15:06] <niteye> i let kubuntu update the kernel, and now ctrl+alt+F keys don't work anymore to switch console screen
[15:08] <BluesKaj> niteye, reboot
[15:08] <niteye> i did that, its since i boot in the new kernel that it stopped working
[15:08] <niteye> booting in the old kernel and it works again
[15:09] <BluesKaj> niteye, have you updated today ?
[15:09] <niteye> yup, it wanted to update the kernel
[15:12] <lucidfox> So
[15:12] <BajK> Is there a way of arranging text like boxes in openoffice writer? like in inDesign and not just having to fill up pages with whitespaces/linebreaks to get on a next page?
[15:13] <niteye> i suppose it would have things like pagebreaks similar to MS Word
[15:15] <niteye> the thing that stopped working is that i cant use cltr+alt+Fkey anymore so i cant have any session except the graphical one :(
[15:41] <BajK> Does Kubuntu support hybrid graphics?
[15:41] <shadowhywind_> does anyone have any ideas on how to replace text in a postscript (ps) file?
[15:41] <BajK> on notebooks
[15:42] <BajK> that I have a powerful ATI graphics card for gaming stuff and a lowperformance Intel graphics for working or battery modE?
[15:43] <rysiek|pl> BajK: it depends on the gfx drivers; my friend has a similar setup (with nVidia) and I think it works for him
[15:43] <BajK> hm a friend of mine has the Acer Aspire Timeline X and it does not
[15:43] <BajK> he can switch in notebook bios
[15:43] <BajK> but not on the fly in kde
[15:44] <rysiek|pl> BajK: send a mail to ATI and the notebook manufacturer and ask them. no, seriously. send it. this way you'll get info, and they will get a signal people are interested and using their hw with Linux
[15:44] <BajK> okay
[15:44] <rysiek|pl> BajK: and under windows is he able to change it on th fly via some GUI?
[15:44] <BajK> yes
[15:44] <rysiek|pl> m'kay
[15:44] <BajK> it does automatically
[15:45] <BajK> if he's on battery, it uses the low performance graphics
[15:45] <rysiek|pl> I'd ask the manufacturers, then
[15:45] <BajK> the ATI empties the battery in bout 2 hours
[15:45] <BajK> intel holds for up to 8
[16:12] <anygivenname> hi....i am using remote sharing ....how do I copy & paste files ?
[16:20] <anygivenname> can anyone help ?
[16:40] <BluesKaj> pls expalin more clearly , what exactly are trying to copy & paste , from where to where , anygivenname ?
[16:43] <anygivenname> from pc to ubutu through remote sharing
[16:51] <Neoo> Hi everybody
[16:51] <Neoo> Someone online for help plz
[16:51] <Lars_G> Hey all.
[16:52] <Lars_G> Question, how do I add more pages/actions on the netbook mode?
[16:52] <Neoo> I wanna enter into my shell under Consol, donnu cmds
[16:53] <BluesKaj> neo open the terminal in kmenu / utilities
[16:54] <BluesKaj> err Neoo
[16:54] <Neoo> Don t understant what you want to say dude
[16:54] <Neoo> Terminal` s already opened
[16:55] <Neoo> I wanna just enter to my propre shell
[16:55] <Neoo> another host...
[16:55] <Neoo> What` s the cmd
[16:55] <BluesKaj> Neoo, so what do you want to do , ssh ?
[16:55] <Lars_G> Neoo: We don't understand what you're trying to do
[16:56] <Neoo> Ok!
[16:56] <Neoo> i buy one shell from one website
[16:56] <Neoo> and now i` m under Ubuntu
[16:56] <Neoo> How can i enter to this shell
[16:57] <Lars_G> What do you mean you buy a shell from a website? you mean you got an ssh accessible server?
[16:57] <Lars_G> you bought a program? what?
[16:57] <Neoo> I bought a shell
[16:58] <Lars_G> What do you mean you buy a shell from a website? you mean you got an ssh accessible server?
[16:58] <Lars_G> you bought a program? what?
[16:58] <Neoo> They send me the informations of my shell
[16:58] <Neoo> Ssh and port ...
[16:59] <Neoo> and my username & password
[16:59] <Lars_G> Ok, then you need to run ssh in the console to acces the server
[16:59] <Lars_G> basically you need to run ssh user@address
[16:59] <Neoo> yes dude
[16:59] <Lars_G> and enter the password
[17:00] <Neoo> how ?
[17:00] <Neoo> Waht` s the command man ?
[17:00] <Lars_G> I told you
[17:01] <Lars_G> ssh user@address
[17:02] <Neoo> thx dude ,)
[17:02] <Lars_G> no problem
[17:03] <BluesKaj> !who | Neoo
[17:03]  * gukk_devel is away: Zur Zeit nicht da.
[17:03] <Neoo> So, thanks all
[17:03] <Neoo> and thanks you Lars_G ,)
[17:03] <Neoo> it`s okey now :D
[17:04] <Lars_G> I'm using 4.5 on a netbook, and I can't find how to add a page/activity. On the desktop's cashew there's no activities options. any tips?
[17:42] <mu3en> Lars_G: for me, click the desktop cashew (not the panel) choose 'activities' a bar pops up similar to the add widget bar. there on the right is a 'add activity' button. you can also set a separate 'dashboard' activity in the control panel.
[18:24] <piquadrat> Hi! I want to share a folder over the network, but when I click on the "Configure File Sharing..." button, all I get is an error message on the console: "kcmfileshare.desktop" not found
[18:25] <piquadrat> and locateModule: Could not find module ' "kcmfileshare" '
[18:27] <piquadrat> never mind, I found it
[18:47] <anygivenname> hi.....how can I copy & paste to ubuntu machine from another connected machine ?
[18:50] <glauce> is there a source for lucid kubuntu backports in a ftp server??
[18:58] <thanis> what is the command for switching to root ?
[18:58] <glauce> thanis: sudo su
[18:59] <thanis> thanks
[19:04] <JackStoner> is krita as functional as gimp??
[19:05] <mu3en> anygivenname: scp is probably the command you want for ubuntu to ubuntu
[19:05] <mu3en> anygivenname: but from a windows machine, filesharing is mostly via samba still i guess.
[19:25] <Lars_G> mu3en: trouble is for some reason when I open the desktop cashew (lower bottom left on this install), I have add widgets, add app (app manager), configure search and launch (only, default activity) and lock page, but no activities option
[19:27] <mu3en> that's weird. i'm using fresh install of kubuntu 10.04 with the kubuntu ppa for the kde 4.5.x updates
[19:27] <mu3en> Lars_G, is that same as you?
[19:27] <Lars_G> I'm on kubuntu 10.10
[19:27] <mu3en> ahh
[19:27] <Lars_G> you're going to send me to +1 ain't you?
[19:27] <mu3en> grin
[19:27] <Lars_G> theyr answer is for me to go to kubuntu-dev and it hurts me to piss the devs with these questions
[19:27] <mu3en> far be it for me
[19:28] <Lars_G> the +1 guys like #ubuntu don't like kde questions much :D
[19:28] <mu3en> at the same time, it is probably the development version that has the issue...and they're likely working on it.
[19:29] <Lars_G> What's the keystroke to close the cashew?
[19:29] <Lars_G> hmmmm
[19:29] <mu3en> grin
[19:30] <mu3en> looks like none
[19:30] <Lars_G> there's no keystroke? even in 4.5 on 10.04? ;P
[19:30] <Lars_G> meh thanks
[19:30] <Lars_G> what was the propper dev channel?
[19:30] <mu3en> when i pop yakuake with F12 it disappears though...
[19:30] <Lars_G> Not here
[19:30] <mu3en> is it not kubuntu-dev?
[19:30] <Lars_G> I popped yakuake, and opened an app
[19:31] <Lars_G> and it's stuck on open cashew
[19:31] <mu3en> still cashew
[19:31] <mu3en> yeah, i get that with the wifi plasmoid sometimes
[19:31] <Lars_G> so if I want to go back to view the desktop... to close the cashew I can't
[19:31] <Lars_G> unless there's a stroke for "show desktop"
[19:31] <Lars_G> let me see if links pulls me thorough this one
[19:33] <mu3en> meta+Q is apparently the keystroke for 'activities...'
[19:34] <Lars_G> ok let me check. thanks
[19:34] <mu3en> and ctrl+F1/F2/F3 is switch desktops, but since plasma is not dependent on that, it probably will exist acroos desktops
[19:35] <Lars_G> Apparently not here and I'm looking at the global shortcuts and can't find any definition for activities, on kwin or plasma netbook. hmmm
[19:35] <mu3en> sounds 'unimplemented'
[19:36] <Lars_G> it does so, I'll keep updating and checking, thanks for the help mu3en
[19:36] <IH8> hei4all! Tell me please the name of widgets which is on the desktop after the Kubuntu installation
[19:37] <iEC> anyone have any ideas why none of my usb drives show up when i run the mount command?
[19:38] <iEC> my mouse is usb so i know the usb ports are working
[19:38] <iEC> but none of the usb drives i have plugged in show up...nor does my mp3 player
[19:38] <mu3en> IH8: think that's 'folder view' and 'microblogging'
[19:39] <mu3en> iEC: what/how are you trying to mount
[19:39] <iEC> im just plugging it in
[19:39] <iEC> its a usb thumb drive
[19:39] <mu3en> iEC: are you checking 'sudo fdisk -l' output
[19:39] <iEC> i was not...
[19:40] <mu3en> normally should pop up automatically in the new device notifier plasmoid
[19:40] <iEC> yeah...thats what happened on my previous computer
[19:40] <mu3en> so maybe see if you see anything in konsole with the above command
[19:41] <mu3en> if you DO see your stick, maybe something else is going on
[19:41] <iEC> i do see it
[19:41] <iEC> usb drive is /dev/sdb and my mp3 player is /dev/sdc
[19:41] <mu3en> okay
[19:41] <mu3en> so maybe try this:
[19:41] <mu3en> cd ~
[19:42] <IH8> Does anybody know on what day 10.10 will release?
[19:42] <mu3en> mkdir thumbdrive
[19:42] <maco> 10-10-10
[19:42] <BluesKaj> iEC, if the usb device is an audio devive , try gstreamer=properties in the the konsole , you'll get a gui with options
[19:42] <mu3en> sudo mount /dev/sdbx thumbdrive/
[19:42] <iEC> mu3en: shouldnt it auto mount though?
[19:42] <mu3en> where x is the number of the partition usually sdb1 on a thumb drive
[19:43] <mu3en> iEC: it should
[19:43] <BluesKaj> err gstreamer-properties , iEC
[19:43] <iEC> BluesKaj: its not currently installed...im assuming because im on kde and not gnome
[19:43] <mu3en> BluesKaj, one usb thumbdrive, one music device
[19:43] <iEC> should i install gnome-media anyways?
[19:43] <mu3en> ???
[19:44] <iEC> when i run the command gstreamer-properties it says to install gnome-media
[19:44] <BluesKaj> iEC, works on kde too
[19:44] <iEC> BluesKaj: okay
[19:44] <mu3en> i'm not sure what that has to do with mounting a drive...
[19:45] <iEC> mu3en: ultimatly i just want it to auto mount and pop up in my notifier like it did previously.
[19:45] <BluesKaj> ok, iEC , you're right , becuase i use both kde and gnome.
[19:45] <iEC> but i guess as long as i can mount it i can at least get by
[19:46] <mu3en> iEC it should do that, i'm just trying to make sure the device CAN actually be mounted
[19:46] <iEC> ah
[19:46] <iEC> i see
[19:46] <iEC> let me mount it quick then
[19:46] <mu3en> iEC it could be there's issues reading the filesystem or something, hence you can't see it in the plasmoid.
[19:46] <BluesKaj> mu3en, any usb device is a drive , it should mount ...try the mount command to see what shows
[19:47] <mu3en> iEC, plus in the recent 4.x there's no automount by default, think you have to set it separately
[19:47] <mu3en> BluesKaj, right, hence my 'mount' command instruction rather than gstreamer...
[19:47] <iEC> mu3en: it says i must specify the filesystem type
[19:47] <mu3en> grin
[19:47] <mu3en> okay
[19:47] <mu3en> the fdisk command earlier should have shwn you that
[19:48] <mu3en> the handle is mount -t vfat for fat filesystem
[19:48] <iEC> fat32
[19:48] <mu3en> sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sdbx thumbdrive/
[19:48] <mu3en> but well, if it doesn't automatically detect, it's not a good sign in general iEC
[19:48] <iEC> ount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb,
[19:48] <iEC>        missing codepage or helper program, or other error
[19:48] <iEC>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[19:48] <iEC>        dmesg | tail  or so
[19:48] <FloodBotK1> iEC: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:49] <BluesKaj> mu3en, well mounting is one thing ..getting it to work is another , hence my gstreamer-properties suggestion
[19:49] <iEC> i was all up to date OS wise on my previous box..and everything auto mounted
[19:49] <iEC> i got a new pc and installed kubuntu on it and now it wont mount
[19:49] <iEC> i can try another thumbdrive though
[19:49] <iEC> to make sure its not a faulty drive
[19:49] <mu3en> iEC sounds like a good plan
[19:49] <iEC> other one is still new in the box even
[19:49] <mu3en> could well be
[19:50] <mu3en> BluesKaj, absolutely. if it isn't mounting though...
[19:50] <BluesKaj> iEC, well a few gtklibs never hurt anyone :)
[19:50] <iEC> this one didnt auto mount
[19:50] <iEC> showed up in fdisk -l though
[19:50] <mu3en> [k]ubuntu-restricted-extras anyone??? grin
[19:51] <iEC> same error when i try to manualy mount
[19:51] <mu3en> it's a new drive right?
[19:51] <Lars_G> mu3en: you grin a lot
[19:51] <iEC> yes
[19:51] <iEC> the first one i tried is a week old drive
[19:51] <iEC> this second one i just pulled out of the box
[19:51] <mu3en> do you have gparted?
[19:51] <iEC> no, but i can install it
[19:51] <mu3en> to look at the partitions/format
[19:52] <mu3en> Lars_G: but not laugh out loud much...
[19:52] <iEC> installing now
[19:52] <BluesKaj> iEC, yeah , that automount expectation is a problem , I had it yesterday , lsusb , found the dev name and it worked here
[19:53] <iEC> gparted cannot open display
[19:53] <iEC> wtf
[19:53] <mu3en> if you right click the device notifier icon, you can go to the automount options and just check the box and options
[19:53] <mu3en> for those that like automount by default
[19:53] <mu3en> iEC
[19:53] <mu3en> sounds like something wicked that way comes
[19:54] <mu3en> you could do it on CLI via fdisk and mkfs.vfat
[19:54] <mu3en> but not sure if you want to go that way
[19:55] <Lars_G> mu3en: now I think I might be wrong but at least on kubuntu it seems the default has been for it not to automount for a short while, you have to mount it from the dev manager widget.
[19:55] <Lars_G> I thought this was a hal/security kit default
[19:55] <mu3en> yes, mine never automounted, and i approve
[19:55] <mu3en> but the setting is there if you like it
[19:56] <Lars_G> mu3en: Oh I agree
[19:56] <Lars_G> I approve it too
[19:56] <iEC> im going to grab some lunch, read some documentation, then ill be back if i still cant figure it out
[19:56] <iEC> thanks for your help guys
[19:56] <mu3en> maybe iEC and BluesKaj don't though, and that's good too
[19:56] <Lars_G> Give me a second, I'm gonna go leave a few layers of forehead sking and bone in the wall.
[19:56] <mu3en> iEC, good luck, sounds like maybe your machine is suffering though
[19:56] <iEC> could be
[19:56] <iEC> thanks again
[19:56] <Lars_G> Our UPS has been damaged four days now, and we just had all servers restar on a small electricity failure
[19:57] <BluesKaj> Lars_G, mu3en , yesterday i mounted a usb speaker system , after lsusb , mount /dev/nameof speakersystem worked
[19:57] <mu3en> how do you mount a speaker system?
[19:58] <anygivenname> mu3en: i have samba.....how do I do it from Windows ?
[19:59] <BluesKaj> it's a Usb device , so I just lsusb , then mount /dev/bosesomething , can't recall the precise name now ...daughter is using it atm
[19:59] <mu3en> anygivenname: if samba is set up on your ubuntu machine, you should be able to share folders which you can then navigate to in windows explorer
[20:00] <mu3en> BluesKaj, i had no idea usb speakers worked that way, sounds convenient
[20:01] <BluesKaj> mu3en, they're powered thru the usb port , not bigtime power but it works
[20:03] <anygivenname> mu3en: even before installing samba....i was connecting to my ubuntu remotely from a Win machine and having full control except that I could not copy to/from ubuntu machine & it is still the case even after installing samba on the ubuntu machine.....
[20:04] <mu3en> anygivenname, if you can ssh, can you also scp?
[20:04] <mu3en> not sure how that would work with windows
[20:06] <anygivenname> mu3en: pls tell me how....i open a folder....right click & hit copy.....then I go to my Windows desktop screen & ofcourse paste is dimmed & same case if I copy a file on Windows machine....I goto my Ubuntu desktop screen & paste is dimmed aswell
[20:07] <mu3en> anygivenname: not sure i understand the situation, take a read of the links here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=907382
[20:08] <mu3en> basically seems you need winscp, putty, or cygwin
[20:08] <mu3en> on the windows machine
[20:08] <BluesKaj> I'm using ssh for windows on W7 , I think it uses a form of putty light , but I have it working on W7 to linux and vice versa
[20:08] <mu3en> BluesKaj, can you run scp commands with that?
[20:10] <anygivenname> mu3en: in simple...pc at home running Ubuntu & remote sharing is enabled.....I am somewhere with my Windows laptop & I connect to my Ubuntu machine at home & have full control thru remote sharing except that I am unable to copy from it or to it any file
[20:10] <Lars_G> Not really, only bloick devices should be mountable in usb
[20:11] <Lars_G> it's probable the speakers come with some storage, maybe for drivers, or for convenience
[20:11] <BluesKaj> mu3en, from linux, yes ...haven't tried it from windows
[20:11] <Lars_G> yes, posix (and linux) shows all devices and processes as files. don't mean they're all really files in a drive somewhere though
[20:12] <mu3en> anygivenname: have you tried running something like 'scp /home/myhome/thedocument.txt myname@my.ip.add.ress:
[20:13] <leif_> mu3en: I used pscp myself yesterday to copy files. You have to run it in the command line. then start it with "pscp.exe -r user@host:/path/to/files c:\destination
[20:13] <phoenix_> i am not able to connect by mobile(nokia 5800) using kbluetooth. it says "sorry your bluetooth device does not support input service"
[20:13] <leif_> the r is for recursive
[20:13] <phoenix_> i am using bluesolil bluetooth
[20:13] <Guest96135> lol
[20:13] <mu3en> anygivenname: see leif_ comment
[20:14] <kira__> hi all
[20:15] <mu3en> Lars_G: hadn't thought of built in storage on speakers for the driver. pretty smart.
[20:17] <leif_> the r is for recursiveGuest96135: I'm not myself today...
[20:17] <anygivenname> how can I use a command line to execute on another machine ?!!
[20:19] <anygivenname> probably u think i wanna copy & paste on the same machine
[20:20] <mu3en> anygivenname, not at all, i'm assuming you mean copy paste a file, not a piece of text. that's a whole other story.
[20:20] <anygivenname> although even on this Ubuntu is complex but this is not what I am asking now
[20:20] <leif_> anygivenname: I think I don't understand your question. You want to copy files from the linux pc to the windows pc using the windows pc, right? In that case, download pscp, open the start menu, click on run and type in "cmd" and hit enter.
[20:20] <Pici> Or use WinSCP
[20:20] <leif_> Pici: Or that, yeah.
[20:21] <Pici> For a gui experience that is.
[20:21] <mu3en> right, winscp, putty, cygwin all apparently have that function as in the link above
[20:21] <Scherenhaenden> hi everybody... i have here a problem... im trying to get place... on my computer n i found a folder named node.def with about 30GB... knows someone what is that?
[20:22] <anygivenname> I want to copy & paste from the Ubuntu to the Windows & vice versa....they are in different placed & connected through remote sharing
[20:22] <anygivenname> different places
[20:22] <leif_> Scherenhaenden: have you tried running "file node.def" in a terminal?
[20:23] <BluesKaj> anygivenname, we already understand that , pls read the advice Pici, leif_ and mu3en are giving you
[20:23] <Pici> anygivenname: copy and paste files? or selected text? and what exactly is 'remote sharing'?
[20:23] <scherenhaenden> but how?
[20:24] <scherenhaenden> leif_:  how? i was trying to read its file on kate...
[20:24] <anygivenname> on Ubuntu...goto System...Preferences...then there is a Remote Desktop
[20:24] <anygivenname> that's it
[20:25] <scherenhaenden> node.def is a folder n its file are for example ide_gen_disk-11.media or :pc:motherboard:u19:rtc.cow
[20:25] <anygivenname> I have it enabled & that's why I am able to connect to this Ubuntu machine from any where in the world
[20:25] <leif_> scherenhaenden: you use normal ubuntu? open up the terminal program, navigate to the location the file is at via cd /folder/of/file and in that folder run "file node.def"
[20:25] <Pici> leif_: its not a file.
[20:25] <scherenhaenden> leif_: is not a file... is a folder
[20:25] <Pici> scherenhaenden: where is the folder?
[20:26] <leif_> Pici: Oh, I must have overlooked that minor detail. ;)
[20:26] <scherenhaenden> Pici: /home/edward/dor/node.def
[20:26] <anygivenname> when I am connected to it....I want to transfer files to it & transfer files from it
[20:26] <Pici> anygivenname: Install ssh and fail2ban on your Ubuntu computer and use winSCP on your windows computer.
[20:26] <scherenhaenden> i have read something in internet bout qemu with that folder... but i dont know what it is... has 30 Gb n i never could use that qemu... never works ¬¬
[20:27] <anygivenname> how to install ssh and fail2ban ? & what is winSCP ?
[20:27] <mu3en> anygivenname, i get it, you have a remote desktop connection
[20:27] <scherenhaenden> leif_: is not a problem XD!!... here write a lot of ppl... is not easy to read
[20:27] <Pici> anygivenname: sudo apt-get install ssh fail2ban
[20:28] <mu3en> anygivenname, indeed you cannot copy paste like that, but i understand, it feels like you should.
[20:28] <Pici> anygivenname: winscp is a tool that lets you connect to a remote server running ssh/sftp and upload/download files.
[20:28] <Pici> anygivenname: You cannot seemlessly copy and paste files.
[20:28] <leif_> scherenhaenden: are there any files in the directory?
[20:28] <Pici> anygivenname: http://winscp.net/eng/index.php Its free (and open source)
[20:29] <mu3en> anygivenname: what you need is: 1. a program called ssh on the ubuntu machine. and 2. a program called cygwin, putty, or winscp on the windows machine
[20:29] <Pici> anygivenname: WinSCP is the easiest to use of the three.  FileZilla can also connect to SCP if you have that and find it easier.
[20:29] <anygivenname> ok...downloading
[20:29] <mu3en> so step by step: 1. on your ubuntu machine do "sudo apt-get install ssh" and then on your windows machine go download and install as Pici said.
[20:30] <scherenhaenden> leif_: yeah... f.e: :pc:motherboard:u19:rtc.cow
[20:30] <leif_> mu3en: doesn't he need the ssh-server package on the ubuntu box?
[20:30] <mu3en> then you can open that winscp program on windows, and enter the details of your ubuntu machine (the same ip number you are connecting using the remote desktop)
[20:30] <BluesKaj> mu3en, anygivenname , http://sshwindows.sourceforge.net/
[20:31] <scherenhaenden> sorry i opened one of that files with 18,8 GB on kate...
[20:31] <Pici> leif_: 'ssh' contains the openssh server and client.
[20:31] <anygivenname> got ssh & fail2ban installed here
[20:31] <BluesKaj> leif_, yes he does need the openssh server
[20:31] <anygivenname> seems they r services not apps
[20:31] <mu3en> leif_ just ssh gives that as dependency in (k)ubuntu
[20:31] <mu3en> what is fail2ban guys?
[20:31] <anygivenname> cause they did not appear on the applications tab
[20:31] <Pici> anygivenname: Thats correct.
[20:32] <mu3en> okay: ail2ban scans log files like /var/log/pwdfail or /var/log/apache/error_log and bans IP that makes too many password failures
[20:32] <Pici> mu3en: It bans excessive failed logins.  Like those from people trying to bruteforce logins.
[20:32] <scherenhaenden> well is not so important... but... if someone could help me to install sound could be great XD!!
[20:32] <Pici> mu3en: It monitors a bunch of files by default on Ubuntu.
[20:33] <leif_> scherenhaenden: those are qemu images. you can use qemu to virtualize another operating system.
[20:33] <scherenhaenden> leif_:  yeah... but i just installed qemu
[20:33] <mu3en> Pici, got it, that's a good addition to internet enabled ssh for sure!
[20:33] <scherenhaenden> leif_: i didnt use or make any image
[20:34] <BluesKaj> mu3en, http://sourceforge.net/projects/fail2ban/
[20:34] <leif_> scherenhaenden: that is weird
[20:34] <scherenhaenden> leif_: n qemu doesnt work
[20:34] <scherenhaenden> works.. but up now i could not do anything with wemu
[20:34] <scherenhaenden> qemu*
[20:35] <leif_> scherenhaenden: I do not know much about qemu. I use virtualbox.
[20:35] <scherenhaenden> leif_: could u help me to install the sound.... i use vbox too
[20:35] <leif_> scherenhaenden: I can give it a try. Which OS do you want to virtualize?
[20:36] <krystyan> bonjour
[20:36] <scherenhaenden> leif_: well i have a lot of OSs on vbox... i just wanted prove that qemu cuz before i registered my vbox... i could not use usb... now i can... but i was trying to use some opensource virtualmachine
[20:37] <scherenhaenden> leif_: hey... always when i start my computer i got to write sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel model=laptopifconfig to get sound
[20:39] <leif_> scherenhaenden: You could simply write that line into /etc/modprobe.conf
[20:40] <scherenhaenden> yeah but the sound doesnt work like before i lost it
[20:41] <leif_> scherenhaenden: what do you mean? That you have to write the line now? Well, if you write that line into /etc/modprobe.conf, it will be loaded whenever you boot.
[20:41] <scherenhaenden> yeah
[20:41] <scherenhaenden> thanks
[20:42] <leif_> scherenhaenden: You are welcome
[20:42] <scherenhaenden> leif_: the problem is that i had my kmix really cutie n funcionally... but now... i cant here any midi file
[20:42] <scherenhaenden> but i dont know why
[20:42] <scherenhaenden> :S
[20:42] <scherenhaenden> :S
[20:42] <scherenhaenden> :s
[20:42] <FloodBotK1> scherenhaenden: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:43] <scherenhaenden> leif_: hey... i dont have that file modprobe
[20:43] <scherenhaenden> :S
[20:43] <BluesKaj> !intelhda |scherenhaenden, have you looked here ?
[20:43] <anygivenname> cooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool
[20:43] <anygivenname> it worked
[20:43] <mu3en> grin
[20:43] <Pici> anygivenname: yay
[20:43] <leif_> scherenhaenden: then create it.
[20:43] <scherenhaenden> oh... ill do it
[20:44] <anygivenname> thank you Pici, leif_ and mu3en
[20:44] <leif_> scherenhaenden: "sudo touch /etc/modprobe.conf" will create the file.
[20:44] <anygivenname> thank you BluesKaj
[20:44] <anygivenname> you all made my day
[20:45] <scherenhaenden> BluesKaj: how do u know what is my card?
[20:45] <scherenhaenden> ubottu:  thanks
[20:45] <scherenhaenden> ubottu:  oh... ok
[20:45] <mu3en> grin
[20:45] <leif_> lol
[20:45] <BluesKaj> anygivenname,  i hrlped ?
[20:46] <mu3en> anygivenname: happy you got that working, it's a great combo to have remote desktop and scp!
[20:46] <anygivenname> yeah
[20:46] <BluesKaj> scherenhaenden, from your modprobe command
[20:46] <scherenhaenden> BluesKaj:  ohh... :S... u right my dear watson
[20:46] <anygivenname> i hope there is a similar app like WinSCP that runs on Android
[20:46] <anygivenname> so I can do the same thing from my phone
[20:47] <mu3en> yes there is
[20:47] <mu3en> anygivenname: i have it on android 2.1 on smart q5
[20:47] <anygivenname> i'm running froyo 2.2
[20:47] <anygivenname> what's the app called?
[20:48] <mu3en> anygivenname: nice, still, should be in the market
[20:48]  * BluesKaj is totally dumb about smartphones
[20:48] <mu3en> anygivenname: search for ssh
[20:48] <anygivenname> isnt ssh a service ?
[20:48] <anygivenname> as seems here on ubuntu
[20:49] <leif_> anygivenname: http://www.androidzoom.com/android_applications/communication/droidscp_gble.html
[20:49] <mu3en> yes, it's a small application that allows secure connections between machines
[20:49] <mu3en> nice one leif_
[20:49] <leif_> mu3en: don't even own one, but when my contract runs out next year i will get one.
[20:50] <Lemax> Рад приветствовать!
[20:50] <maco> !ru
[20:51] <anygivenname> thanks leif_
[20:51] <scherenhaenden> BluesKaj: hey i have a question... so ? options snd-hda-intel model=ALC889A or so ? options snd-hda-intel model=ALC889A
[20:51] <leif_> anygivenname: no problem
[20:51] <scherenhaenden> BluesKaj: hey i have a question... so ? options snd-hda-intel model=ALC889A or so ? options snd-hda-intel model=alc889a
[20:51] <BluesKaj> yes anygivenname ssh is a service which comes as a sever app and a client app
[20:51] <Lars_G> eh?
[20:51] <Lars_G> I thought I was in kubuntu :P lol
[20:51] <mu3en> grin
[20:52] <mu3en> Lars_G: convergence much?
[20:52] <Lars_G> yeah
[20:52] <Lars_G> as long as there's no collusion
[20:52] <BluesKaj> scherenhaenden, what are you asking ?
[20:53] <scherenhaenden> is bug letters or small?
[20:53] <scherenhaenden> n how can i save and lock the nano programm :S
[20:53] <mu3en> lower or upper case
[20:54] <mu3en> and is nano better than vi?
[20:54] <Lars_G> scherenhaenden: try both and see which works.
[20:54] <mu3en> grin
[20:54] <Pici> ..
[20:54] <scherenhaenden> Lars_G: danke.
[20:54] <scherenhaenden> Lars_G: thanks*
[20:54] <Lars_G> mu3en: you know.. there was a reason why chesire was so creepy.
[20:54] <Lars_G> scherenhaenden: use a rmmod between them, and check dmesg to see which works
[20:54] <spirov92> hi, after an upgrade akregator started crashing. On the command line, I get ""
[20:54] <spirov92> Communication problem with  "akregator" , it probably crashed.
[20:54] <spirov92> Error message was:  "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply" : " "Did not receive a reply.
[20:55] <spirov92> sorry for the flood
[20:55] <mu3en> Lars_G, but i think it might have had more to do with the fact he was a semi invisible talking cat.
[20:55] <BluesKaj> scherenhaenden, how is it listed: lspci | grep -i audio  ...?
[20:55] <leif_> scherenhaenden: Strg+X will try and close nano, but it asks to save first when you have changed a file.
[20:56] <Lars_G> mu3en: What a surprise shroedinger would've had if he'd chosen chesire as his cat
[20:56] <Lars_G> The cat is not alive and dead at the same time... there's simply no cat
[20:56] <mu3en> Lars_G, some major parts of modern philosophy could have gone a very different way
[20:56] <scherenhaenden> 00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA)
[20:56] <scherenhaenden> 01:05.1 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc RS880 Audio Device [Radeon HD 4200]
[20:56] <BluesKaj> scherenhaenden, probly lowercase , but I'm not sure
[20:57] <scherenhaenden> ill reboot
[20:57] <scherenhaenden> im coming
[20:57] <Lars_G> He's comming? wow sound really excites that guy.
[20:58] <spirov92> so...I'm getting the error message I posted above, and akregator starts eating a lot of CPU, and doesn't show a window or tray icon. has anyone had this problem?
[20:59] <leif_> Lars_G: From his nick I assume he is maybe german. We use that phrase a lot in a different context.
[20:59] <Lars_G> leif_: I guessed so, it was just a bad joke.
[20:59] <mu3en> but hard to resist
[20:59] <Lars_G> leif_: btw that he first used danke also was a tip off
[21:00] <BluesKaj> Ithink he forgot the word "back"
[21:00] <BluesKaj> i shall return :)
[21:01] <leif_> Lars_G: Maybe it would have been easier if I had pmed him in german.
[21:01] <mu3en> i'll be back...
[21:01] <Lars_G> I think I'll start on my german soon
[21:01] <Lars_G> I'm fed up of saying "someday I'll study it"
[21:02] <BluesKaj> my german left me many yrs ago , she found some other eurotrash
[21:02] <Lars_G> :(
[21:03] <leif_> Lars_G: Be prepared. Or, as Mark Twain put it: They would rather decline two drinks than one german adjective
[21:03] <Lars_G> oh my
[21:03] <BluesKaj> bitt
[21:04] <spirov92> ah, there's an upgrade for akregator
[21:07] <BluesKaj> er bitte
[21:08] <mu3en> leif_ whoever 'they' are, they are right about that...
[21:09] <leif_> mu3en: Foreigners Mark Twain spoke to in germany.
[21:09] <leif_> but he should be glad that he went to germany and not to iceland...
[21:10] <Lars_G> Or worse yet, Hungary
[21:10] <Lars_G> the world's hardest language
[21:11] <BluesKaj> hmm, ever tried finnish? :)
[21:11] <leif_> Lars_G: Well, what about finnish? They are somewhat related I think, as well as estonian
[21:12] <BluesKaj> estonian and finnish are quite close
[21:12] <Lars_G> At least I think I have an advantage, I come from knowing two different languages. that might or might now help with german
[21:12] <BluesKaj> the offtopic cop as about to appear :)
[21:13] <mu3en> grin
[21:13] <leif_> Lars_G: Well, in icelandic you have gender specific words for the numbers 1 to 4
[21:13] <Lars_G> sweet
[21:13] <Lars_G> In spanish most objects are gender specific though
[21:13] <jimmy51_> what can i use to convert a partition from ntfs to fat?
[21:13] <mu3en> gender specific numbers. that's abstract.
[21:14] <Lars_G> it's one of the things angloparlants tend to screw the most often, gender
[21:14] <mu3en> jimmy51_ destructively you can use gparted
[21:14] <BluesKaj> my swedish is barely passable ...don't get much for it since parents passed away
[21:14] <BluesKaj> use
[21:14] <Lars_G> meh mu3en in Japanese they have different counting numbers for different things you're counting.
[21:14] <jimmy51_> mu3en: how about non-destructively :)
[21:14] <Lars_G> flat things, boxy things, etc
[21:14] <leif_> Lars_G: That is the same case with german. But it is weird. It is the boy (he), but the girl (it).
[21:14] <jimmy51_> (i need to keep windows bootloader intact)
[21:14] <Lars_G> mu3en: Not to mention the importante of managing both the formal and informal modes
[21:15] <mu3en> jimmy51_ grin. no idea. there's also a qt rewrite of gparted int he repos that is pretty good.
[21:15] <Lars_G> leif_: Ah, that's why frau is eine?
[21:15] <BluesKaj> jimmy51_, to hide the grub menu ?
[21:15] <leif_> Lars_G: eine is the unspecific form for die (sie)
[21:16] <Lars_G> BluesKaj: can't XP's bootloader boot grub too? so you change the order
[21:16] <jimmy51_> BluesKaj: no... i've got a booting WinPE on USB, but it's NTFS.  i want it to be FAT.
[21:16] <mu3en> Lars_G: but at least in japanese counters don't have specific honorifics...
[21:16] <Lars_G> you boot to XP and then choose linux
[21:16] <spirov92> I upgraded akregator and again, the process is eating 80% CPU and not showing a window
[21:17] <mu3en> jimmy51_ you can also copy out the bootloader and restore it after using a liveCD, there's info on the wiki
[21:17] <jimmy51_> mu3en: hmm... ok
[21:17] <jimmy51_> something like dd if=/dev/sdb of=/home/jimmy/bootsect.bin bs=512 count=1 ?
[21:17] <jimmy51_> oh wait...
[21:17] <mu3en> yup, something like that
[21:17] <jimmy51_> that would get the drive's MBR
[21:17] <jimmy51_> i just need the partition's stuff
[21:18] <mu3en> and then reverse the process after you reformat the partition/drive
[21:18] <BluesKaj> Lars_G, yes , that why I was aking , in order to make windows boot first , change the boot order in etc/default/grub  then sudo update grub , then to boot into linux manually I think holding the shift key down will bring up the grub menu
[21:19] <mu3en> i've almost always preferred to move to grub for dual boot though...
[21:19] <BluesKaj> jimmy51_, make sure the timeout =0 so the boot menu doesn't show up if you want widows to auto boot
[21:19] <BluesKaj> err windows
[21:19] <mu3en> freud would be proud.
[21:20] <mu3en> himmy51_ that qt app is called simply partitionmanager
[21:22] <anygivenname> is there a way android can be connected to ubuntu with same functionality as Activesync on Win ?
[21:23] <mu3en> anygivenname: on android that is mostly done via all the online google services (contacts, mail, etc...)
[21:24] <BluesKaj> oops I should have done less typing and more reading ... now I'm totally confused :)
[21:25] <BluesKaj> din't think the mbr could be saved , except in windows after booting from grub
[21:26] <BluesKaj> but I'm still learning , even after 5 yrs on kubuntu
[21:28] <mu3en> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1323188
[21:28] <mu3en> seems interesting
[21:32] <GiacomoL> hi. My apt-get seems broken, when I try "apt-get source python2.6" it says it can't find a source package
[21:33] <GiacomoL> i'm pretty sure python has a source package, it's in the Ubuntu repo configured. my sources.list has the relevant deb-src entries
[21:36] <GiacomoL> lol, forget it, I found it... the relevant deb-src line had magically lost the "main" tag
[21:36]  * GiacomoL is stupid
[21:41] <v3nd3tta``> where is /etc/bootsplash on 10.04 ?
[21:41] <pulaski> Hello, I recently upgraded kde 4 to kde 4.5.1. When I add the device notifier widget to a panel on my desktop all of the apps and other widgets on the panel are suddenly no longer displayed in the panel but instead appear along the top of my desktop. If I remove the device notifier by left click on its display on the desktop the panel reverts to its correct configuration. I made a cursory search for device notifier bugs on the
[21:42] <pulaski> kde bug tacking system but did not find this particular issue. Has anyone here had a similar experience?
[21:43] <spirov92> I get the feeling someone screwed up with the KDE packages, everyone is complaining about small bugs
[21:43] <spirov92> and I still can't get akregator to work
[21:44] <GiacomoL> pulaski: if you have a systray, you can show the device notifier there. Works for me
[21:44] <GiacomoL> pulaski: in System Tray Settings -> Display -> Extra, check the device notifier
[21:45] <mu3en> it's strange cause i have neither issue (akgregator or notifier), but like GiacomoL i have notifier in the systray
[21:45] <mu3en> you do have to enable it, then check it in the systray settings, then remove it...
[21:46] <pulaski> GiacomoL: Thanks for responding. Yes I use the systray and I have marked it to display the device notifier.  Let me try it again now to see if it performs better. Thanks for the tip.
[21:47] <jimmy51_> i just made a fat32 partition on a USB stick.  when i plug it in KDE doesn't ask me what i want to do with it.  why not?
[21:47] <jimmy51_> ( i don't want to have to mount /dev/sdh1 /media/usbstick or whatever every time)
[21:47] <v3nd3tta``> arg, where do put grub bootscreens? not /boot/message anymore? :(
[21:49] <BluesKaj> jimmy51_, why should it , if it's empty :)?
[21:49] <mu3en> jimmy51_ right click the device notifier, go to prefs and make sure your automount prefs are what you want them to be
[21:49] <jimmy51_> BluesKaj: ah, so it has to have files on it to prompt to mount?
[21:49] <BluesKaj> jimmy51_, that's been my experience
[21:50] <jimmy51_> ok
[21:50] <mu3en> i think kde 4.x usually will just pop out the device notifier plasmoid showing the device plugged in. if you click there, you get more options (view images in gwenview/open in dolphin)
[21:51] <jimmy51_> it's popping up now
[21:51] <jimmy51_> i mounted manually, cp'd a file, and now it pops up
[21:51] <mu3en> as far as i can tell, regardless of the content, but only as long as the format is readable
[21:51] <jimmy51_> without a file.... nothing
[21:51] <jimmy51_> (and no device manager icon unless something is plugged in)
[21:51] <jimmy51_> oh well.  now that i know i have to have a file on it, i'll be ok
[21:52] <v3nd3tta``> BluesKaj you can help me? i want to install a bootsplash but i cannot put it at /etc/bootsplash
[21:54] <BluesKaj> what's bootsplash , a grub image background . v3nd3tta`` ?
[21:54] <olskolirc> is it possible that I can install a boot editor like the one that used to be in versions previous to Karmic?
[21:55] <pulaski> GiacomoL: When I check the device notifier to display in system tray settings it does display but the system tray in the panel changes so that the only apparant traditional system tray icons that remain in the panel are the screen settings icon and what seems to be a shadow of the a new device notifier icon.
[21:55] <v3nd3tta``> 3 things: a grup background, a kde bootsplash (but that works so far) and a splash for booting (the blue one with white dots)
[21:56] <BluesKaj> olskolirc, what are trying to edit , the bootloader in lucid is grub2 , the previous version was just grub or legacygrub
[21:57] <olskolirc> im on karmic and its grub2...I want to go into my system settings and download new boot screens BluesKaj
[21:58] <mu3en> pulaski, are those other icons just hidden? there are settings for individual icon hiding too.
[21:59] <BluesKaj> v3nd3tta``, olskolirc , look here http://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-add-a-splash-image-to-grub-2-on-ubuntu-9.04
[21:59] <pulaski> To be clear, the device notifier icon has changed from what I recall it was in kde 4 to a circle with the usb three pronged symbol within it. What remains in the system tray on the panel is a faint gray outline of the upper arc of the circle and the display settings icon. The mixer, clipboard, printer, update notifier icons, the expand arrow and an extra large device notifier appear in the upper right corner of my desktop where
[21:59] <pulaski> they appear to work normaly if activated.
[22:00] <olskolirc> thanks BluesKaj
[22:00] <BluesKaj> the blue one with white dots , dunno , never tried to change that, v3nd3tta``
[22:01] <v3nd3tta``> but it changed as my little bro installed his nvidia drivers on mint... from mint message to black with green dots (nvidia)
[22:01] <pulaski> mu3en: Thanks for responding, see my response above.
[22:01] <BluesKaj> pulaski, it could be one of the hidden icons , click the little arrow beside the speaker icon
[22:01] <mu3en> pulaski, you may need to restart X, there are some artifacts afer you mess around with the hiding/systray
[22:02] <BluesKaj> !mint | v3nd3tta``
[22:02] <v3nd3tta``> i know :P but i want to change it too
[22:03] <pulaski> mu3en: Interesting I clicked on the systray expand arrow on my desktop and all the icons reappeared in the systray on the panel as intended.
[22:04] <pulaski> mu3en: I think I'm beginning to undestand.
[22:04] <mu3en> pulaski, i think that once you set all the systray setting for hiding etc. and reload, it should work. also, remember you sometimes need to remove the actual notifier in the panel once it been absorbed int he systray, otherwise you end up with two...
[22:04] <anygivenname> is there an app that can enable internet sharing to Androind device through USB cable ?
[22:05] <v3nd3tta``> okay, i'll have to forget the matrix boot :'(
[22:05] <pulaski> mu3en: It may not be a bug but rather a feature. It seems when you click the arrow to expand the systray icons they move to the desktop because when I click on the arrow to again to contract the view of the icons the systray reappears as intended in the panel.
[22:06] <mu3en> yeah, that is the setting of the "autohide" in the preferences, but there is also a 'bug' which means they do not refresh the first time you set them up...at least mine did not
[22:07] <mu3en> pulaski, rather than 'move to the desktop', they're in a sort of systray popout. also interesting to note that within that pop up, i sometimes get weird artifacts or split text
[22:08] <maco> Lars_G: american sign language has "classifiers" which is a similar idea to japanese counters (except in ASL used to show motion rather than for counting)
[22:08] <BluesKaj> one can set the panel icons in system tray settings/device and select always show or whatever options you want, pulaski
[22:09] <mu3en> Lars_G, maco, classifiers for movement meaning 'types' of movement?
[22:09] <maco> no meaning types of things that move or are shaped some way...
[22:10] <maco> like there's a "things with wheels" handshape that you move to show what the thing with wheels is doing
[22:10] <maco> and one for structural things, to show how roofs/walls are shaped
[22:10] <maco> and for people to show how they move relative to each other
[22:10] <pulaski> mu3en: I see. BluesKaj: Thanks for the tips, I have been doing that. I'm just playing around with things here to see how they work. I imagine I should just get used to a new way of doing things.
[22:11] <mu3en> pulaski, very new, but actually, once it's all working the way you like, very efficient.
[22:11] <pulaski> mu3en: BluesKaj: Thanks again, cya.
[22:14] <bfpvlan> So what make kubuntu stand out from the rest of distros
[22:15] <jessejazza> not  much in my view having changed about a year ago
[22:16] <BluesKaj> !best | bfpvlan
[22:17] <bfpvlan> ok sorry
[22:17] <BluesKaj> bfpvlan, if you have a specific question , we'll try to answer
[22:19] <jessejazza> I for one have great admiration for Mark Shuttleworth. *buntu got me going in linux but i made the choice to switch to another
[22:19] <mu3en> whatever works for you.
[22:35] <olskolirc> does anyone actually use this open community widget?  it seems lame.
[23:03] <vlad__> careva din romania???
[23:07] <darkdelusions> ?? Romanian
[23:07] <darkdelusions> vlad__:  Please join  #ubuntu-ro
[23:08] <vlad__> 10x
[23:21] <anygivenname> is there a way to see all android system files located on my SD Card in Ubuntu ?