[00:28] cjohnston: I'm back from a loco thing. do you need me? [00:28] nigelb: I forgot what I needed to tell you, but if you're here I will try and remember. [00:28] Oh right, the websuite commit thing for lernid [00:29] i thought i had found a "team reporting" package on launchpad today at work, but now can't find it...am i daft? [00:29] nm, found it https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-teamreports [02:52] 'lo all [02:53] hi duanedesign [02:54] Pendulum: nigel off to see about his visa? /me crosses fingers [02:55] duanedesign: he made it onto the train according to his last text to me [02:55] :) [04:28] nigelb, paultag, jcastro and czajkowski: You guys are all top 5 community team chatter boxes in my irc report: http://paste.ubuntu.com/502429/ [04:29] You can tell who is usually super verbose too, ScottL takes that honour averaging 15 words per message. [04:30] If you guys notice some aliasing problems, that code is tricky and it could always do with more tweaking. [04:38] doctormo: !fail im not even on it [04:42] you should do that in -locoteams doctormo [04:44] cjohnston: It's not perfect, I'm still working out why some people disapear and others are there twice. [04:44] ;-) [06:53] doctormo: cool [06:53] doctormo: we have something similar for #ubuntu-beginners. Kinda fun stats to look at [06:54] doctormo: haha, paultag is high on the list in that channel too http://lukjad007.homeunix.org/ircstats/ubuntu-beginners/ === maco changed the topic of #ubuntu-community-team to: Work Items: http://bit.ly/coZgIY || Things to work on (in order): AppDeveloperWeek, OpenWeek Call for Speakers, Release Parties, UDS Prep || Happy birthday, pleia2! [08:04] morning ubuntians [08:41] morning everyone! [08:43] good morning [08:43] hey, look who's here [08:43] good morning dholbach, welcome back! [08:43] internet at my parents' place didn't work, so I had to drive over to a friend's place - I wasn't slacking! :) [08:43] hey dpm [08:44] yeah, yeah.... [08:44] how are you all doing? [08:44] fine!, how was your holiday? [08:44] dholbach: welcome back ! [08:44] it was absolutely fantastic [08:44] never found friendlier and more helpful people on the planet [08:45] I didn't find any terrorists :) [08:45] :-) [08:47] morning dholbach! [08:47] dholbach, welcome back! [08:48] hola ara [08:48] how are you doing? [08:48] dholbach, good thanks! glad to hear you had a great time [08:48] * dholbach hugs you all [08:57] * dpm hugs dholbach! [08:57] dholbach: Welcome back man! [08:57] yaay [08:58] heya kim0 [08:58] Had fun there ? :) [08:58] * kim0 reading what you've written up there [08:58] oh cool .. looks like you had fund [08:58] fun* [08:59] kim0, I totally had fun there - it was amazing [08:59] Awesome :) [08:59] kim0, but I didn't see everything, so I need to go back one day [08:59] insha'allah :) [09:00] hehe insha'Allah indeed [09:00] yay! return of *the* dholbach ! :D [09:01] dholbach: you dont know how many people get disappointed when they realized you aernt around ;) [09:01] vish, haha, not really - people were surely glad they had a bit of peace while I was gone :) [09:03] dholbach: havent seen many of those, but *I*'m getting a bit tired of giving out your return date ;p [09:03] haha [09:03] thanks [09:15] omg! dholbach is back! [09:15] dholbach: WELCOME BACK! [09:16] hey nigelb :) [09:16] dholbach: Had awesome fun? I heard you came on the newspaper :) [09:16] yeah, I gave a talk in Esfahan [09:17] \o/ [09:17] Anyway, great to have you back [09:17] nigelb: get the visa ? [09:17] I shall hound you for pictures later [09:17] czajkowski: Interview tomorrow morning [09:17] ah thought it was tday [09:17] *today [09:18] czajkowski: nah, just getting to the city today [09:21] Also, I had an awesome train journey today! I <3 trains :) [09:29] dpm, thanks for doing the listadmin duties :) [09:31] haha doctormo, me and czajkowski seem to be the top chatterboxes here [09:31] czajkowski: Recovred from conference? [09:32] dholbach, no worries, any time. It was easy, I just marked everything as spam. I guess the lists have been a bit silent these last days :P [09:33] dpm, awesome :) [09:44] pleia2, Happy Birthday! :) [09:46] brb [09:47] oh [09:48] pleia2: Happy Birthday! [09:53] morning all [09:53] morning duanedesign [09:54] nigelb: glad you had a safe trip [09:54] duanedesign: heh, thanks :) [09:55] nigelb: i wish we had more trains in the US. :\ [09:59] duanedesign: heh, it was a very comfortable trip. I <3 trains. [09:59] There were like 3 kids in the seats around me [10:00] and they were all running and playing and shouting - fun times. [10:00] They reminded of me several years back :p [10:02] * czajkowski has just seent he new banner and table cloth for approved Teams [10:02] SNAZZY [10:04] oh, Nice :) [10:07] yup [10:08] my loco is finally starting to get active again. Got some new members who are interested in getting involved. [10:09] been almost a year since I have been able to have 'Get Loco approved' as one of my goals. [10:10] duanedesign: if you ever need a hand [10:10] or want to bang some ideas out just let me know [10:10] you can pm or mail me or skype [10:11] thank you very much czajkowski [10:12] czajkowski: I'll probably take that offer, but can I hound you at UDS instead? [10:15] som of the people getting to orlando around the same time as me have some similar interests. Looks like the cab ride to the hotel could be fun :) [10:15] heh [10:15] good stuff anything I can help with just ask [10:16] :) [10:18] i've also made plans to go have beers with several people. I dont drink, lol. But the beverage isnt important. Besides 'we will have a beer' isnt necesarily a literal statement [10:19] \o/ beer [10:19] http://drool.popey.com/ [10:20] lol [10:20] that is awesome popey [10:20] :) [10:21] duanedesign: so true! [10:21] it's a social thing [10:21] though I drank a lot at the weekend so think I need a break again [10:22] popey: do you still get the screencast ML? [10:22] yes [10:22] mmmmm, guinness in dublin last weekend was so yummy [10:23] gusiness is good bear [10:23] lol, beert [10:23] ugh [10:23] you been drinking? :) [10:23] b-e-e-r [10:23] whew got it [10:25] popey: got someone who is making quite a few screencasts. they are getting better. Still need to work on his script a bit. Lots of umms and akward pauses. [10:25] yeah, i saw a couple [10:25] I have scripted a few new ones [10:26] popey: haha, good stuff [10:26] ooo hello dholbach you back? [10:26] popey: did you end up reaching dublin last weekend? :p [10:26] we did [10:27] and did you put porn in his bag? :P [10:27] hehe, no [10:27] off to get breakfast....mmmm doughnuts [10:27] tempted to put a windows magazine in there [10:27] haha [10:27] much worse than porn [10:27] the shame of getting caught with a windows magazine! [10:28] :D [10:39] popey, yep, thanks :) [10:39] popey, how are you? [10:40] good good! [11:12] * dholbach → lunch [11:34] didnt someone have a blog post on Wacom Bamboo tablets [11:34] on Planet Ubuntu [11:35] aha it was [d]octormo [11:40] * nigelb cant believe popey actually looks at the sounder list [11:40] I'm a moderator, I have to [11:40] ahh [11:42] popey: Also, that tweet had an extra '.', which blocks it from linking correctly :) [11:44] bah [11:44] heh [11:51] nigelb: the dot in front was intentional [11:51] popey: oh? because you don't want to link hem? [11:51] *them [11:51] no, thats not it [11:52] the dot means everyone sees the tweet [11:52] not just the recipient [11:53] Ah. Oh. Does the recipient get to see too? [11:53] yes [11:53] recipient always sees because I @them [11:59] aaaah [12:02] lol doctormo [12:02] i [12:02] do [12:02] not [12:02] ;) [12:06] popey: doesn't everyone see the tweet anyway? [12:08] no [12:08] many people filter out @replies where the @ is the first character [12:10] I had no idea that was possible [12:42] wow, the photos are beautiful from Daniel's trip :) [12:47] jcastro, Pendulum I've added you as helpers for today's sessions as well - not sure I will be online when the day starts - but had a great 1st day at Grace Hopper can't wait to see what today brings [12:47] ok [12:48] make sure you blog about your day! [12:48] ok [12:48] I came back home to get some Ubuntu CD's as Stormy had plenty of Fedora and openSuse ones [12:48] jcastro, doing that now :-) [12:51] hola jcastro [12:51] omg you are back!!!! [12:51] :-D [12:52] lol [12:52] jcastro: now you can take a break and assign all your tasks to him :p [12:52] woo [12:52] dholbach, lives! :-) want me to add you as a helper to the rest of app dev week as well :-) (I have to ask you know) [12:53] akgraner, I'm recovering from under a pile of 10000 emails [12:53] akgraner, let's say "I don't know" [12:53] We all know "I don't know" = "yes, please" :p [12:53] akgraner, I can send you more if you need.... I was waiting for Rick Spencer's answer to send the Cd's... but he never came back to me with the quantity [12:53] dholbach, hehe - :-) [12:53] nigelb, feel free to take my spot [12:54] dholbach: I was originally supposed, but not in town :) [12:54] * nigelb has a beach to visit in the evening :p [12:54] randa, it's just today and tomorrow now :-) if they can be there in the am that would be great [12:54] there is a whole Open Source track tomorrow [12:54] nigelb: thanks for rubbing that in :P [12:54] Pendulum: haha [12:54] no akgraner it is too late now. I am saying that you can use all you have and then I can send YOU more. But the CDS are sent from Holland so they wont get there by tomorrow [12:55] randa, DOH! yes please can you end me some more [12:55] I'll be using all the ones I have for sure [12:55] of course akgraner :) [12:55] randa, thank you!!! [12:55] Welcome back dholbach [12:56] thanks nhandler [12:56] hola randa [12:56] hey dholbach!! you are back! [12:56] yes :) [12:56] dholbach: That is a beautiful photoset :) [12:57] thanks nigelb [12:57] dholbach, you take the BEST pictures [12:57] akgraner, I'm not sure about that, but I'm glad you like them :) [12:57] dholbach: Did you actually recieve that many tea invites? ;) [12:58] nigelb, very very close to it [12:58] O_O [12:58] oh, hahah http://picasaweb.google.com/daniel.holbach/Iran#5522295781320593506 [12:58] I met the friendliest people on the planet there [12:59] Also, lol @ http://picasaweb.google.com/daniel.holbach/Iran#5522295934244071234 [12:59] dholbach: the first picture I linked should be on your FB :) [13:02] nigelb, not sure :) [13:04] heh [13:20] dude those pics look awesome [13:20] dholbach: did you meet murat on the way there? [13:21] dholbach: do you know Persian? [13:21] * nigelb liked that really big cone icecream [13:21] (just was noticing the photos of the bookshop and stuff) [13:22] Is persian = arabic? [13:22] nigelb: they don't speak arabic in Iran, they speak Persian [13:22] different language [13:23] Pendulum: I can only recognize arabic numbers, but the pictures of numbers were arabic and I could make them out [13:23] maybe they share same alphabets or something [13:23] they may [13:24] ah, numbers are similar [13:24] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Persian_keyboard_layout,_unshifted.gif [13:24] Pendulum, I started learning it and learnt a bit more there - how about you? do you know any? persian? [13:24] Persian uses the arabic alphabet but has 4 letters more [13:25] and through common history and intermingling culture a lot of words are the same [13:25] dholbach: no. I suspect it'd be difficult for me to learn over here without raising suspicion (plus as I'm sure I'd never get to go to Iran, I don't know where I'd use it) [13:25] dholbach: was just curious :) [13:25] If I get lost, all I know how to say in arabic is "I don't know arabic" [13:25] heh [13:25] Pendulum, raising suspicion, maybe :) [13:26] lol [13:26] although I saw americans in Iran too [13:26] JFo: are you awake yet big country? [13:26] I thought JFo was on taiwan time [13:26] (still!) [13:26] jcastro, I am [13:26] I knew it! [13:26] dholbach: there can't have been that many. I looked into what it takes to get a visa as an American and I couldn't figure out how I'd qualify as "tourist" does not seem to be a valid visa option [13:27] nigelb, I am sleeping on US Eastern, but my body is still very much Taiwan time [13:27] JFo: lol [13:27] :) [13:27] Pendulum, that's the checkbox I used on my application form, hm [13:27] and regarding languages, I am very sadly only fluent in English and know some French and a very tiny bit of Dutch [13:27] dholbach: it's specific to US, I think [13:27] it had "[ ] pilgrimage" too [13:28] dholbach: somehow I think when your country calls their country the 'Axis of Evil' and calls for imposing lots of sanctions, they're less likely to want you in their country ;-) [13:28] or maybe the US doesn't want Americans going over, which is also possible [13:29] JFo: stackexchange is launching for real on 10.10 with a real theme and domain, etc. I think you guys are all set. [13:29] you have enough rep to kill junk [13:29] jcastro, sweet [13:29] Pendulum, everybody I talked to was able to differentiate between "person from country" and "government of country" [13:29] jcastro: Oh, WOW [13:29] JFo: make sure your voting good stuff up, it's fast, for example kees is new has some nice answers [13:29] k [13:29] nigelb: yeah mt is working on the theme, it's apparently hot [13:29] \o/ [13:30] dholbach: sorry, I meant more that the government of said country doesn't want you [13:30] jcastro: No wonder folks are pissed at Ubuntu being successful in stackexchange - we're way more awesome that we think we are [13:30] *than [13:30] having wine questions answered by the wine maintainer is also a nice bonus, so feel free to vote scott ritchie up [13:30] Pendulum, ah ok - yeah, maybe - although I'm sure there's ways to get in there [13:31] nigelb: I live to make people hate me. :) [13:31] dholbach: I suspect if I suddently became a scholar (in a non-threatening way) or started a travel program or something, it'd be fine ;-) [13:31] jcastro: heh :) [13:31] dholbach: and I plan on living a long time so who knows what may chance in the next 30 years [13:31] *change [13:31] yeah [13:32] Pendulum, get an invitation letter from somebody of the ubuntu community :) [13:32] dholbach: haha. that might be the best idea yet ;-) [13:32] dholbach: plan a uds there :p [13:32] I'd love to visit Iran [13:32] dholbach: I just like travel and meeting new people and stuff [13:32] tons of ancient things to see and experience [13:32] :) [13:33] and the people are so incredibly hospitable [13:33] JFo: did you see the Rick Steves special on Iran? [13:33] Pendulum, I have not [13:33] need to though [13:33] I met people in the morning in a tea house, they paid my breakfast and showed me their city for the rest of the day and didn't allow me to pay anything [13:33] etc etc etc [13:33] wow, very nice [13:33] WOW [13:33] stuff like that happened to me every single day, multiple times [13:33] JFo: it's quite good. although before the last Iranian election. I wanted to go to Iran before seeing it and really wanted to go to Iran after seeing it [13:33] I can vouch for middle east hospitality any day :) [13:34] Pendulum, I can imagine [13:34] JFo: wow, ubuntu gamer is nice [13:34] ah, ohso [13:34] oh BTW, in unrelated news... 11 days left till 10.10.10 [13:34] nigelb: I've been talking with one of the SE guys over email, they're pretty impressed how we runs things there. [13:35] JFo: that's scary [13:35] tomorrow is 10 days till 10.10.10 [13:35] they wanted to get us out of beta earlier than all the others as an example on how to do it right [13:35] no pressure [13:35] :P [13:35] we opted for 10.10 instead [13:35] jcastro: heh, that is awesome :) [13:35] Oh, I just noticed Ubuntu discussion on my facebook feed from non-ubuntu folks [13:35] I was like wow, these are my juniors talking about Ubuntu and forums, etc [13:36] I linked them to SE :D [13:36] g44 [13:36] jes [13:36] send them ALL TO ME [13:36] heh [13:36] gladly :) [13:36] someone asked the perfect question [13:36] http://ubuntu.stackexchange.com/questions/4868/what-is-the-difference-between-upstream-and-downstream-when-referring-to-who-to-g [13:36] I was like "what ... what are the chances?!?!" [13:37] that's what I do! [13:37] jcastro: that one's specifically for you :D [13:37] heh [13:37] I know! [13:37] the bummer is [13:37] you asked the question? :p [13:37] I've been waiting to hit 2000, because that's the threshold for getting access to the mod tools [13:38] and I hit the rep cap yesterday (you can only gain 200 in one day to avoid gaming the system) [13:38] so now I am stuck at 1952, lol [13:38] haha [13:38] so those 14 upvotes went into the ether [13:38] woo, someone just +1'ed me! [13:40] I should participate in Se more. [13:46] jcastro, that was me :) [13:50] doctormo: ping [13:52] ubuntu studio is now team reporting :) [13:56] Catch you all in a bit - back to Atlanta I go :-) woo hoo!!! [14:00] scott-work: whooo this makes me and nhandler very happy [14:00] czajkowski: good :) [14:10] * vish wonders how stackexchange is different from Ubuntuforums [14:10] * vish reads http://meta.ubuntu.stackexchange.com/questions/257/i-am-new-here-how-does-stackexchange-work [14:10] I made a video dude! [14:10] wooo [14:11] oh! yea, I'm lazy :D [14:11] * vish watches video instead [14:11] login.launchpad.net seems broken [14:12] when i try to logon to loco.ubuntu.com [14:12] anyone else getting this? [14:12] OpenID transaction in progress... (which takes ages) [14:19] messed up for me too [14:19] hmm , i cant login into stackexchange either with open id.. [14:22] I think we broke the internet [14:24] jcastro: fix it [14:24] * JFo kicks it while it is down [14:25] * popey pokes jfo with bug 642792 [14:25] Launchpad bug 642792 in linux (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "ALT+PrtSc not recognised (affects: 4) (dups: 1) (heat: 412)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/642792 [14:26] * JFo looks [14:29] popey, you running X? [14:29] ya [14:29] hmmm [14:29] (I am not at the machine exhibiting the issue right now) [14:30] popey, see #u-k [14:30] * vish can confirm popey's bug too.. and JFo , it haz a dup too ;) === Mamarok_ is now known as Mamarok [14:31] vish, I recognize it [14:31] JFo: oh, i meant, i'm now on the sys with the problem [14:31] heh [14:33] jcastro: one thing i like about stackexchange is you dont need to create a new account.. your /future/ video could have been about using gmail/yahoo id.. much easier for new folks to start using it [14:34] s/been/be [14:34] vish: they're working on putting the ubuntuone thing there like a button like google and yahoo [14:34] so it's easier for people to just use their ubuntu id [14:35] popey broken the internet [14:35] \o/ [14:35] he kept hitting ALT+PrtSc [14:36] :P [14:36] lol! [14:36] cyphermox: I'm going to kill you [14:36] uh oh [14:36] "Good idea. I think making sure connman and network-manager can be used [14:36] interchangeably is a good thing, regardless of the choices made w/r/t [14:36] which GUI will be default where. After all, having choice is the [14:36] fundamental idea behind open source ;)" [14:36] no dude, pick the best one [14:36] so I don't have to care about that crap [14:36] heh [14:37] my perspective is make one work and tell me to use that [14:37] :) [14:37] right [14:37] "variety creates the headache of having to choose" -JFo [14:38] also, open source isn't about choice. That's just made up. [14:38] open source is about open source [14:39] lol [14:47] "OpenOffice's future was doomed from the day when Oracle acquired SUN Microsystems." [14:48] http://www.techdrivein.com/2010/09/future-ubuntu-releases-will-be-shipped.html [14:48] because the future was bright for OOo before! [14:49] jcastro, hehe :D [14:50] :) [14:50] jcastro, my plan is to make the network backend irrelevant, so I guess for the GUI there would be just one :) [14:50] highlander gui [14:50] JFo, exactly ;) [14:51] :) [14:53] dholbach: I don't know if you noticed, but not only did we finish off the AppDevWeek schedule, we had to add another row of slots! [14:54] jcastro, there's a couple of folks who replied and said they can't make their slots [14:54] but I think akgraner is aware of it [14:54] thanks a lot for looking into it everybody! [14:54] I moved the ruby one to friday [14:54] that's the only one I am aware of [14:54] thursday 18:00 is still open [14:55] and friday 16:00 [14:55] but yeah, lots of classes going on and being awesome [14:58] friday can be thought of as a bathroom break :P [15:58] morning all [15:58] welcome back dholbach! :-) [15:58] heya jono [15:58] thanks jono [16:00]