[00:28] <doctormo> cjohnston: I'm back from a loco thing. do you need me?
[00:28] <doctormo> nigelb: I forgot what I needed to tell you, but if you're here I will try and remember.
[00:28] <doctormo> Oh right, the websuite commit thing for lernid
[00:29] <ScottL> i thought i had found a "team reporting" package on launchpad today at work, but now can't find it...am i daft?
[00:29] <ScottL> nm, found it https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-teamreports
[02:52] <duanedesign> 'lo all
[02:53] <Pendulum> hi duanedesign
[02:54] <duanedesign> Pendulum: nigel off to see about his visa? /me crosses fingers
[02:55] <Pendulum> duanedesign: he made it onto the train according to his last text to me
[02:55] <duanedesign> :)
[04:28] <doctormo> nigelb, paultag, jcastro and czajkowski: You guys are all top 5 community team chatter boxes in my irc report: http://paste.ubuntu.com/502429/
[04:29] <doctormo> You can tell who is usually super verbose too, ScottL takes that honour averaging 15 words per message.
[04:30] <doctormo> If you guys notice some aliasing problems, that code is tricky and it could always do with more tweaking.
[04:38] <cjohnston> doctormo: !fail   im not even on it
[04:42] <cjohnston> you should do that in -locoteams doctormo
[04:44] <doctormo> cjohnston: It's not perfect, I'm still working out why some people disapear and others are there twice.
[04:44] <cjohnston> ;-)
[06:53] <duanedesign> doctormo: cool
[06:53] <duanedesign> doctormo: we have something similar for #ubuntu-beginners. Kinda fun stats to look at
[06:54] <duanedesign> doctormo: haha, paultag is high on the list in that channel too http://lukjad007.homeunix.org/ircstats/ubuntu-beginners/
[08:04] <kim0> morning ubuntians
[08:41] <dpm> morning everyone!
[08:43] <dholbach> good morning
[08:43] <dpm> hey, look who's here
[08:43] <dpm> good morning dholbach, welcome back!
[08:43] <dholbach> internet at my parents' place didn't work, so I had to drive over to a friend's place - I wasn't slacking! :)
[08:43] <dholbach> hey dpm
[08:44] <dpm> yeah, yeah....
[08:44] <dholbach> how are you all doing?
[08:44] <dpm> fine!, how was your holiday?
[08:44] <czajkowski> dholbach: welcome back !
[08:44] <dholbach> it was absolutely fantastic
[08:44] <dholbach> never found friendlier and more helpful people on the planet
[08:45] <dholbach> I didn't find any terrorists :)
[08:45] <dpm> :-)
[08:47] <ara> morning dholbach!
[08:47] <ara> dholbach, welcome back!
[08:48] <dholbach> hola ara
[08:48] <dholbach> how are you doing?
[08:48] <ara> dholbach, good thanks! glad to hear you had a great time
[08:48]  * dholbach hugs you all
[08:57]  * dpm hugs dholbach!
[08:57] <kim0> dholbach: Welcome back man!
[08:57] <kim0> yaay
[08:58] <dholbach> heya kim0
[08:58] <kim0> Had fun there ? :)
[08:58]  * kim0 reading what you've written up there
[08:58] <kim0> oh cool .. looks like you had fund
[08:58] <kim0> fun*
[08:59] <dholbach> kim0, I totally had fun there - it was amazing
[08:59] <kim0> Awesome :)
[08:59] <dholbach> kim0, but I didn't see everything, so I need to go back one day
[08:59] <dholbach> insha'allah :)
[09:00] <kim0> hehe insha'Allah indeed
[09:00] <vish> yay! return of *the* dholbach ! :D
[09:01] <vish> dholbach: you dont know how many people get disappointed when they realized you aernt around ;)
[09:01] <dholbach> vish, haha, not really - people were surely glad they had a bit of peace while I was gone :)
[09:03] <vish> dholbach: havent seen many of those, but *I*'m getting a bit tired of giving out your return date ;p
[09:03] <dholbach> haha
[09:03] <dholbach> thanks
[09:15] <nigelb> omg! dholbach is back!
[09:15] <nigelb> dholbach: WELCOME BACK!
[09:16] <dholbach> hey nigelb :)
[09:16] <nigelb> dholbach: Had awesome fun? I heard you came on the newspaper :)
[09:16] <dholbach> yeah, I gave a talk in Esfahan
[09:17] <nigelb> \o/
[09:17] <nigelb> Anyway, great to have you back
[09:17] <czajkowski> nigelb: get the visa ?
[09:17] <nigelb> I shall hound you for pictures later
[09:17] <nigelb> czajkowski: Interview tomorrow morning
[09:17] <czajkowski> ah thought it was tday
[09:17] <czajkowski> *today
[09:18] <nigelb> czajkowski: nah, just getting to the city today
[09:21] <nigelb> Also, I had an awesome train journey today! I <3 trains :)
[09:29] <dholbach> dpm, thanks for doing the listadmin duties :)
[09:31] <nigelb> haha doctormo, me and czajkowski seem to be the top chatterboxes here
[09:31] <nigelb> czajkowski: Recovred from conference?
[09:32] <dpm> dholbach, no worries, any time. It was easy, I just marked everything as spam. I guess the lists have been a bit silent these last days :P
[09:33] <dholbach> dpm, awesome :)
[09:44] <dholbach> pleia2, Happy Birthday! :)
[09:46] <dholbach> brb
[09:47] <nigelb> oh
[09:48] <nigelb> pleia2: Happy Birthday!
[09:53] <duanedesign> morning all
[09:53] <nigelb> morning duanedesign
[09:54] <duanedesign> nigelb: glad you had a safe trip
[09:54] <nigelb> duanedesign: heh, thanks :)
[09:55] <duanedesign> nigelb: i wish we had more trains in the US.  :\
[09:59] <nigelb> duanedesign: heh, it was a very comfortable trip.  I <3 trains.
[09:59] <nigelb> There were like 3 kids in the seats around me
[10:00] <nigelb> and they were all running and playing and shouting - fun times.
[10:00] <nigelb> They reminded of me several years back :p
[10:02]  * czajkowski has just seent he new banner and table cloth for approved Teams 
[10:02] <czajkowski> SNAZZY
[10:04] <nigelb> oh, Nice :)
[10:07] <czajkowski> yup
[10:08] <duanedesign> my loco is finally starting to get active again. Got some new members who are interested in getting involved.
[10:09] <duanedesign> been almost a year since I have been able to have 'Get Loco approved' as one of my goals.
[10:10] <czajkowski> duanedesign: if you ever need a hand
[10:10] <czajkowski> or want to bang some ideas out just let me know
[10:10] <czajkowski> you can pm or mail me or skype
[10:11] <duanedesign> thank you very much czajkowski
[10:12] <nigelb> czajkowski: I'll probably take that offer, but can I hound you at UDS instead?
[10:15] <duanedesign> som of the people getting to orlando around the same time as me have some similar interests. Looks like the cab ride to the hotel could be fun :)
[10:15] <czajkowski> heh
[10:15] <czajkowski> good stuff anything I can help with just ask
[10:16] <nigelb> :)
[10:18] <duanedesign> i've also made plans to go have beers with several people. I dont drink, lol. But the beverage isnt important. Besides 'we will have a beer' isnt necesarily a literal statement
[10:19] <popey> \o/ beer
[10:19] <popey> http://drool.popey.com/
[10:20] <duanedesign> lol
[10:20] <duanedesign> that is awesome popey
[10:20] <popey> :)
[10:21] <czajkowski> duanedesign: so true!
[10:21] <czajkowski> it's a social thing
[10:21] <czajkowski> though I drank a lot at the weekend so think I need a break again
[10:22] <duanedesign> popey: do you still get the screencast ML?
[10:22] <popey> yes
[10:22] <popey> mmmmm, guinness in dublin last weekend was so yummy
[10:23] <duanedesign> gusiness is good bear
[10:23] <duanedesign> lol, beert
[10:23] <duanedesign> ugh
[10:23] <popey> you been drinking? :)
[10:23] <duanedesign> b-e-e-r
[10:23] <duanedesign> whew got it
[10:25] <duanedesign> popey: got someone who is making quite a few screencasts. they are getting better. Still need to work on his script a bit. Lots of umms and akward pauses.
[10:25] <popey> yeah, i saw a couple
[10:25] <popey> I have scripted a few new ones
[10:26] <nigelb> popey: haha, good stuff
[10:26] <popey> ooo hello dholbach you back?
[10:26] <nigelb> popey: did you end up reaching dublin last weekend? :p
[10:26] <popey> we did
[10:27] <nigelb> and did you put porn in his bag? :P
[10:27] <popey> hehe, no
[10:27] <duanedesign> off to get breakfast....mmmm doughnuts <insert popeys link>
[10:27] <popey> tempted to put a windows magazine in there
[10:27] <nigelb> haha
[10:27] <nigelb> much worse than porn
[10:27] <nigelb> the shame of getting caught with a windows magazine!
[10:28] <duanedesign> :D
[10:39] <dholbach> popey, yep, thanks :)
[10:39] <dholbach> popey, how are you?
[10:40] <popey> good good!
[11:12]  * dholbach → lunch
[11:34] <duanedesign> didnt someone have a blog post on Wacom Bamboo tablets
[11:34] <duanedesign> on Planet Ubuntu
[11:35] <duanedesign> aha it was [d]octormo
[11:40]  * nigelb cant believe popey actually looks at the sounder list
[11:40] <popey> I'm a moderator, I have to
[11:40] <nigelb> ahh
[11:42] <nigelb> popey: Also, that tweet had an extra '.', which blocks it from linking correctly :)
[11:44] <popey> bah
[11:44] <nigelb> heh
[11:51] <popey> nigelb: the dot in front was intentional
[11:51] <nigelb> popey: oh? because you don't want to link hem?
[11:51] <nigelb> *them
[11:51] <popey> no, thats not it
[11:52] <popey> the dot means everyone sees the tweet
[11:52] <popey> not just the recipient
[11:53] <nigelb> Ah.  Oh.  Does the recipient get to see too?
[11:53] <popey> yes
[11:53] <popey> recipient always sees because I @them
[11:59] <nigelb> aaaah
[12:02] <ScottL> lol doctormo
[12:02] <ScottL> i
[12:02] <ScottL> do
[12:02] <ScottL> not
[12:02] <ScottL> ;)
[12:06] <AlanBell> popey: doesn't everyone see the tweet anyway?
[12:08] <popey> no
[12:08] <popey> many people filter out @replies where the @ is the first character
[12:10] <AlanBell> I had no idea that was possible
[12:42] <nigelb> wow, the photos are beautiful from Daniel's trip :)
[12:47] <akgraner> jcastro, Pendulum I've added you as helpers for today's sessions as well - not sure I will be online when the day starts  - but had a great 1st day at Grace Hopper can't wait to see what today brings
[12:47] <jcastro> ok
[12:48] <jcastro> make sure you blog about your day!
[12:48] <Pendulum> ok
[12:48] <akgraner> I came back home to get some Ubuntu CD's as Stormy had plenty of Fedora and openSuse ones
[12:48] <akgraner> jcastro, doing that now :-)
[12:51] <dholbach> hola jcastro
[12:51] <jcastro> omg you are back!!!!
[12:51] <dholbach> :-D
[12:52] <nigelb> lol
[12:52] <nigelb> jcastro: now you can take a break and assign all your tasks to him :p
[12:52] <jcastro> woo
[12:52] <akgraner> dholbach, lives! :-)  want me to add you as a helper to the rest of app dev week as well :-)  (I have to ask you know)
[12:53] <dholbach> akgraner, I'm recovering from under a pile of 10000 emails
[12:53] <dholbach> akgraner, let's say "I don't know"
[12:53] <nigelb> We all know "I don't know" = "yes, please" :p
[12:53] <randa> akgraner, I can send you more if you need.... I was waiting for Rick Spencer's answer to send the Cd's... but he never came back to me with the quantity
[12:53] <akgraner> dholbach, hehe - :-)
[12:53] <dholbach> nigelb, feel free to take my spot
[12:54] <nigelb> dholbach: I was originally supposed, but not in town :)
[12:54]  * nigelb has a beach to visit in the evening :p
[12:54] <akgraner> randa, it's just today and tomorrow now :-) if they can be there in the am that would be great
[12:54] <akgraner> there is a whole Open Source track tomorrow
[12:54] <Pendulum> nigelb: thanks for rubbing that in :P
[12:54] <nigelb> Pendulum: haha
[12:54] <randa> no akgraner it is too late now. I am saying that you can use all you have and then I can send YOU more. But the CDS are sent from Holland so they wont get there by tomorrow
[12:55] <akgraner> randa, DOH!  yes please can you end me some more
[12:55] <akgraner> I'll be using all the ones I have for sure
[12:55] <randa> of course akgraner :)
[12:55] <akgraner> randa, thank you!!!
[12:55] <nhandler> Welcome back dholbach
[12:56] <dholbach> thanks nhandler
[12:56] <dholbach> hola randa
[12:56] <randa> hey dholbach!! you are back!
[12:56] <dholbach> yes :)
[12:56] <nigelb> dholbach: That is a beautiful photoset :)
[12:57] <dholbach> thanks nigelb
[12:57] <akgraner> dholbach, you take the BEST pictures
[12:57] <dholbach> akgraner, I'm not sure about that, but I'm glad you like them :)
[12:57] <nigelb> dholbach: Did you actually recieve that many tea invites? ;)
[12:58] <dholbach> nigelb, very very close to it
[12:58] <nigelb> O_O
[12:58] <nigelb> oh, hahah http://picasaweb.google.com/daniel.holbach/Iran#5522295781320593506
[12:58] <dholbach> I met the friendliest people on the planet there
[12:59] <nigelb> Also, lol @ http://picasaweb.google.com/daniel.holbach/Iran#5522295934244071234
[12:59] <nigelb> dholbach: the first picture I linked should be on your FB :)
[13:02] <dholbach> nigelb, not sure :)
[13:04] <nigelb> heh
[13:20] <jcastro> dude those pics look awesome
[13:20] <jcastro> dholbach: did you meet murat on the way there?
[13:21] <Pendulum> dholbach: do you know Persian?
[13:21]  * nigelb liked that really big cone icecream
[13:21] <Pendulum> (just was noticing the photos of the bookshop and stuff)
[13:22] <nigelb> Is persian = arabic?
[13:22] <Pendulum> nigelb: they don't speak arabic in Iran, they speak Persian
[13:22] <Pendulum> different language
[13:23] <nigelb> Pendulum: I can only recognize arabic numbers, but the pictures of numbers were arabic and I could make them out
[13:23] <nigelb> maybe they share same alphabets or something
[13:23] <Pendulum> they may
[13:24] <nigelb> ah, numbers are similar
[13:24] <nigelb> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Persian_keyboard_layout,_unshifted.gif
[13:24] <dholbach> Pendulum, I started learning it and learnt a bit more there - how about you? do you know any? persian?
[13:24] <dholbach> Persian uses the arabic alphabet but has 4 letters more
[13:25] <dholbach> and through common history and intermingling culture a lot of words are the same
[13:25] <Pendulum> dholbach: no. I suspect it'd be difficult for me to learn over here without raising suspicion (plus as I'm sure I'd never get to go to Iran, I don't know where I'd use it)
[13:25] <Pendulum> dholbach: was just curious :)
[13:25] <nigelb> If I get lost, all I know how to say in arabic is "I don't know arabic"
[13:25] <Pendulum> heh
[13:25] <dholbach> Pendulum, raising suspicion, maybe :)
[13:26] <nigelb> lol
[13:26] <dholbach> although I saw americans in Iran too
[13:26] <jcastro> JFo: are you awake yet big country?
[13:26] <nigelb> I thought JFo was on taiwan time
[13:26] <nigelb> (still!)
[13:26] <JFo> jcastro, I am
[13:26] <jcastro> I knew it!
[13:26] <Pendulum> dholbach: there can't have been that many. I looked into what it takes to get a visa as an American and I couldn't figure out how I'd qualify as "tourist" does not seem to be a valid visa option
[13:27] <JFo> nigelb, I am sleeping on US Eastern, but my body is still very much Taiwan time
[13:27] <nigelb> JFo: lol
[13:27] <JFo> :)
[13:27] <dholbach> Pendulum, that's the checkbox I used on my application form, hm
[13:27] <Pendulum> and regarding languages, I am very sadly only fluent in English and know some French and a very tiny bit of Dutch
[13:27] <Pendulum> dholbach: it's specific to US, I think
[13:27] <dholbach> it had "[ ] pilgrimage" too
[13:28] <Pendulum> dholbach: somehow I think when your country calls their country the 'Axis of Evil' and calls for imposing lots of sanctions, they're less likely to want you in their country ;-)
[13:28] <Pendulum> or maybe the US doesn't want Americans going over, which is also possible
[13:29] <jcastro> JFo: stackexchange is launching for real on 10.10 with a real theme and domain, etc. I think you guys are all set.
[13:29] <jcastro> you have enough rep to kill junk
[13:29] <JFo> jcastro, sweet
[13:29] <dholbach> Pendulum, everybody I talked to was able to differentiate between "person from country" and "government of country"
[13:29] <nigelb> jcastro: Oh, WOW
[13:29] <jcastro> JFo: make sure your voting good stuff up, it's fast, for example kees is new has some nice answers
[13:29] <JFo> k
[13:29] <jcastro> nigelb: yeah mt is working on the theme, it's apparently hot
[13:29] <nigelb> \o/
[13:30] <Pendulum> dholbach: sorry, I meant more that the government of said country doesn't want you
[13:30] <nigelb> jcastro: No wonder folks are pissed at Ubuntu being successful in stackexchange - we're way more awesome that we think we are
[13:30] <nigelb> *than
[13:30] <jcastro> having wine questions answered by the wine maintainer is also a nice bonus, so feel free to vote scott ritchie up
[13:30] <dholbach> Pendulum, ah ok - yeah, maybe - although I'm sure there's ways to get in there
[13:31] <jcastro> nigelb: I live to make people hate me. :)
[13:31] <Pendulum> dholbach: I suspect if I suddently became a scholar (in a non-threatening way) or started a travel program or something, it'd be fine ;-)
[13:31] <nigelb> jcastro: heh :)
[13:31] <Pendulum> dholbach: and I plan on living a long time so who knows what may chance in the next 30 years
[13:31] <Pendulum> *change
[13:31] <dholbach> yeah
[13:32] <dholbach> Pendulum, get an invitation letter from somebody of the ubuntu community :)
[13:32] <Pendulum> dholbach: haha. that might be the best idea yet ;-)
[13:32] <nigelb> dholbach: plan a uds there :p
[13:32] <JFo> I'd love to visit Iran
[13:32] <Pendulum> dholbach: I just like travel and meeting new people and stuff
[13:32] <JFo> tons of ancient things to see and experience
[13:32] <Pendulum> :)
[13:33] <dholbach> and the people are so incredibly hospitable
[13:33] <Pendulum> JFo: did you see the Rick Steves special on Iran?
[13:33] <JFo> Pendulum, I have not
[13:33] <JFo> need to though
[13:33] <dholbach> I met people in the morning in a tea house, they paid my breakfast and showed me their city for the rest of the day and didn't allow me to pay anything
[13:33] <dholbach> etc etc etc
[13:33] <JFo> wow, very nice
[13:33] <nigelb> WOW
[13:33] <dholbach> stuff like that happened to me every single day, multiple times
[13:33] <Pendulum> JFo: it's quite good. although before the last Iranian election. I wanted to go to Iran before seeing it and really wanted to go to Iran after seeing it
[13:33] <nigelb> I can vouch for middle east hospitality any day :)
[13:34] <JFo> Pendulum, I can imagine
[13:34] <nigelb> JFo: wow, ubuntu gamer is nice
[13:34] <nigelb> ah, ohso
[13:34] <JFo> oh BTW, in unrelated news... 11 days left till 10.10.10
[13:34] <jcastro> nigelb: I've been talking with one of the SE guys over email, they're pretty impressed how we runs things there.
[13:35] <Pendulum> JFo: that's scary
[13:35] <JFo> tomorrow is 10 days till 10.10.10
[13:35] <jcastro> they wanted to get us out of beta earlier than all the others as an example on how to do it right
[13:35] <czajkowski> no pressure
[13:35] <JFo> :P
[13:35] <jcastro> we opted for 10.10 instead
[13:35] <nigelb> jcastro: heh, that is awesome :)
[13:35] <nigelb> Oh, I just noticed Ubuntu discussion on my facebook feed from non-ubuntu folks
[13:35] <nigelb> I was like wow, these are my juniors talking about Ubuntu and forums, etc
[13:36] <nigelb> I linked them to SE :D
[13:36] <nigelb> g44
[13:36] <jcastro> jes
[13:36] <jcastro> send them ALL TO ME
[13:36] <JFo> heh
[13:36] <nigelb> gladly :)
[13:36] <jcastro> someone asked the perfect question
[13:36] <jcastro> http://ubuntu.stackexchange.com/questions/4868/what-is-the-difference-between-upstream-and-downstream-when-referring-to-who-to-g
[13:36] <jcastro> I was like "what ... what are the chances?!?!"
[13:37] <jcastro> that's what I do!
[13:37] <nigelb> jcastro: that one's specifically for you :D
[13:37] <JFo> heh
[13:37] <jcastro> I know!
[13:37] <jcastro> the bummer is
[13:37] <nigelb> you asked the question? :p
[13:37] <jcastro> I've been waiting to hit 2000, because that's the threshold for getting access to the mod tools
[13:38] <jcastro> and I hit the rep cap yesterday (you can only gain 200 in one day to avoid gaming the system)
[13:38] <jcastro> so now I am stuck at 1952, lol
[13:38] <nigelb> haha
[13:38] <jcastro> so those 14 upvotes went into the ether
[13:38] <jcastro> woo, someone just +1'ed me!
[13:40] <nigelb> I should participate in Se more.
[13:46] <JFo> jcastro, that was me :)
[13:50] <scott-work> doctormo: ping
[13:52] <scott-work> ubuntu studio is now team reporting :)
[13:56] <akgraner> Catch you all in a bit - back to Atlanta I go :-) woo hoo!!!
[14:00] <czajkowski> scott-work: whooo this makes me and nhandler very happy
[14:00] <scott-work> czajkowski: good :)
[14:10]  * vish wonders how stackexchange is different from Ubuntuforums
[14:10]  * vish reads http://meta.ubuntu.stackexchange.com/questions/257/i-am-new-here-how-does-stackexchange-work
[14:10] <jcastro> I made a video dude!
[14:10] <JFo> wooo
[14:11] <vish> oh! yea, I'm lazy :D
[14:11]  * vish watches video instead
[14:11] <popey> login.launchpad.net seems broken
[14:12] <popey> when i try to logon to loco.ubuntu.com
[14:12] <popey> anyone else getting this?
[14:12] <popey> OpenID transaction in progress... (which takes ages)
[14:19] <jcastro> messed up for me too
[14:19] <vish> hmm , i cant login into stackexchange either with open id..
[14:22] <jcastro> I think we broke the internet
[14:24] <popey> jcastro: fix it
[14:24]  * JFo kicks it while it is down
[14:25]  * popey pokes jfo with bug 642792
[14:25] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 642792 in linux (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "ALT+PrtSc not recognised (affects: 4) (dups: 1) (heat: 412)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/642792
[14:26]  * JFo looks
[14:29] <JFo> popey, you running X?
[14:29] <popey> ya
[14:29] <JFo> hmmm
[14:29] <popey> (I am not at the machine exhibiting the issue right now)
[14:30] <JFo> popey, see #u-k
[14:30]  * vish can confirm popey's bug too.. and  JFo , it haz a dup too  ;)
[14:31] <JFo> vish, I recognize it
[14:31] <vish> JFo: oh, i meant, i'm now on the sys with the problem
[14:31] <JFo> heh
[14:33] <vish> jcastro: one thing i like about stackexchange is you dont need to create a new account.. your /future/ video could have been about using gmail/yahoo id.. much easier for new folks to start using it
[14:34] <vish> s/been/be
[14:34] <jcastro> vish: they're working on putting the ubuntuone thing there like a button like google and yahoo
[14:34] <jcastro> so it's easier for people to just use their ubuntu id
[14:35] <czajkowski> popey broken the internet
[14:35] <popey> \o/
[14:35] <JFo> he kept hitting ALT+PrtSc
[14:36] <JFo> :P
[14:36] <vish> lol!
[14:36] <jcastro> cyphermox: I'm going to kill you
[14:36] <JFo> uh oh
[14:36] <jcastro> "Good idea. I think making sure connman and network-manager can be used
[14:36] <jcastro> interchangeably is a good thing, regardless of the choices made w/r/t
[14:36] <jcastro> which GUI will be default where. After all, having choice is the
[14:36] <jcastro> fundamental idea behind open source ;)"
[14:36] <jcastro> no dude, pick the best one
[14:36] <jcastro> so I don't have to care about that crap
[14:36] <JFo> heh
[14:37] <JFo> my perspective is make one work and tell me to use that
[14:37] <JFo> :)
[14:37] <jcastro> right
[14:37] <JFo> "variety creates the headache of having to choose" -JFo
[14:38] <jcastro> also, open source isn't about choice. That's just made up.
[14:38] <jcastro> open source is about open source
[14:39] <JFo> lol
[14:47] <jcastro> "OpenOffice's future was doomed from the day when Oracle acquired SUN Microsystems."
[14:48] <jcastro> http://www.techdrivein.com/2010/09/future-ubuntu-releases-will-be-shipped.html
[14:48] <jcastro> because the future was bright for OOo before!
[14:49] <cyphermox> jcastro, hehe :D
[14:50] <JFo> :)
[14:50] <cyphermox> jcastro, my plan is to make the network backend irrelevant, so I guess for the GUI there would be just one :)
[14:50] <JFo> highlander gui
[14:50] <cyphermox> JFo, exactly ;)
[14:51] <JFo> :)
[14:53] <jcastro> dholbach: I don't know if you noticed, but not only did we finish off the AppDevWeek schedule, we had to add another row of slots!
[14:54] <dholbach> jcastro, there's a couple of folks who replied and said they can't make their slots
[14:54] <dholbach> but I think akgraner is aware of it
[14:54] <dholbach> thanks a lot for looking into it everybody!
[14:54] <jcastro> I moved the ruby one to friday
[14:54] <jcastro> that's the only one I am aware of
[14:54] <AlanBell> thursday 18:00 is still open
[14:55] <AlanBell> and friday 16:00
[14:55] <AlanBell> but yeah, lots of classes going on and being awesome
[14:58] <Pendulum> friday can be thought of as a bathroom break :P
[15:58] <jono> morning all
[15:58] <jono> welcome back dholbach! :-)
[15:58] <dholbach> heya jono
[15:58] <dholbach> thanks jono
[16:00] <jcastro> call today?
[16:00] <jono> jcastro, yup
[16:00] <dpm> morning jono
[16:00] <jono> jcastro, dholbach, kim0, dpm lets try mumble
[16:00] <dholbach> yep
[16:00] <jcastro> ok
[16:00] <jono> hey dpm
[16:01] <kim0> ok
[16:02] <jcastro> jono: we can hear you
[16:02] <jono> jcastro, dholbach, kim0, dpm can you guys hear me?
[16:02] <jcastro> and each other
[16:02] <kim0> jono: can do
[16:02] <dholbach> jono, yes
[16:03] <jcastro> check the mute!
[16:03] <dholbach> jcastro, kim0, dpm: do you guys use UNE?
[16:03] <kim0> no
[16:03] <dpm> dholbach, I do on my netbook
[16:03] <kim0> although I want to play with it
[16:03] <dholbach> how do I get the mumble window to show up? :)
[16:04] <dpm> dholbach, I don't know, I've never used it there
[16:07] <dholbach> dpm, kim0, jcastro, jono: http://picasaweb.google.com/daniel.holbach/Iran :)
[16:07] <jcastro> jono: your mic is hot
[16:10] <doctormo> jcastro: warning, out of context!
[16:11] <JFo> heh
[16:11] <JFo> ENOCONTEXT
[16:14] <sense> good afternoon
[16:15] <highvoltage> good afternoon sense
[16:15] <sense> hi highvoltage
[16:21] <jono> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityReview/Sep2010
[16:22] <jono> dholbach, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityReview/Sep2010/Packaging
[16:24] <jcastro> for 11.04 dholbach will make debhelper8!
[16:25] <dholbach> jcastro, not sure about that :-P
[16:32] <jono> dpm, you are breaking up a lot
[16:32] <jcastro> dpm: you totally cut out
[16:32] <jono> I recommend you finish this conversation on IRC
[16:33] <dpm> jono, jcastro, yeah, let's do that
[16:33] <dpm> jono, dholbach, kim0, jcastro, bye!
[16:33] <dpm> (crappy mumble)
[16:33] <kim0> dpm: bye
[16:48] <jcastro> ok my friends, I call it a LUNCHTIME
[17:03] <dholbach> alright my friends, I call it a day
[17:03] <dholbach> see you tomorrow
[18:00] <czajkowski> whoooooooo Good Karma has arrived!!!
[18:06] <sense> czajkowski: In what form did it manifest itself?
[18:07] <doctormo> sense: My wife is good Kama.
[18:07] <sense> doctormo: Yeah, we know you're lucky already! :)
[18:08] <doctormo> How are you sense and what are you up to?
[18:09] <sense> doctormo: I'm fine, and I'm busy with finding out what I was supposed to be working again (I really should use GTG again).
[18:09] <sense> Maybe I should pay some attention to the Deluge AppInd, but that bug is so nasty!
[18:09] <doctormo> sense: I have plenty of things I could give to you to work on :-P
[18:09]  * sense runs away and hides before doctormo can say anything more.
[18:10] <doctormo> I've been playing with a drag and drop uploader in firefox, which is very interesting.
[18:10] <sense> Is it easy to make it workable?
[18:16] <doctormo> sense: Yes and no, it's made in such a way as to make some things easy and other things no so much.
[18:25] <duanedesign> what sense is taking requests for taking work off our hands :)
[18:26] <sense> No!
[18:26] <JFo> doctormo, all I heard was "sense is taking requests for taking work off our hands" :)
[18:27] <sense> No!
[18:27] <JFo> heh
[18:27]  * czajkowski does a little dance !
[18:27]  * czajkowski pours a very large JD and no coke and a ton of ice! 
[18:27] <czajkowski> nyommy
[18:28] <JFo> :-/
[18:28] <czajkowski> JFo: I wish I had coke too
[18:28]  * JFo drop ships a coke to czajkowski 
[18:28] <czajkowski> whoo
[18:29] <JFo> <-can't drink JD... would be fighting inanimate objects
[18:29]  * czajkowski and JD are best of buddies
[18:29] <czajkowski> nyommie
[18:31] <doctormo> That reminds me, I have a chocolate manhatten in the freezer waiting to be drunk.
[18:32] <czajkowski> a what ?
[18:32] <doctormo> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manhattan_%28cocktail%29
[18:37] <czajkowski> odd
[18:38] <doctormo> My wife has convinced me that if I'm going to stay home without a job all day, then I should be able to make cocktails as in the 50s.
[18:40] <cjohnston> doctormo jcastro jono https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-directory  New LoCo Directory Mailing List
[18:41] <doctormo> joined, tah
[18:41] <cjohnston> ;-)
[18:41] <jono> cjohnston, sweet!
[18:41] <cjohnston> :-)
[18:42] <cjohnston> jono: LD is lookin quite nice!
[18:42] <jono> cjohnston, it looks awesome!
[18:56] <czajkowski> pleia2: Happy Birthday!!!
[18:56] <pleia2> thanks czajkowski :)
[18:58] <highvoltage> happy birthday pleia2! hope you have a great year!
[18:59] <pleia2> thanks!
[19:00] <jcastro> jono: seif moved his class so I am sending the appdevweek people to your show, so say hi! (In about 3 minutes)
[19:00] <jcastro> and then we'll resume app week
[19:02]  * czajkowski got a job 
[19:03] <JFo> grats czajkowski!!
[19:04] <cjohnston> yay!
[19:06] <duanedesign> congrats czajkowski
[19:06] <duanedesign> czajkowski: hopefully now it is my turn :)
[19:06] <pleia2> yay czajkowski!
[19:06] <czajkowski> :D
[19:06] <czajkowski> thanks folks
[19:08] <duanedesign> pleia2: happy B-day
[19:10] <cjohnston> happy bday pleia2
[19:11] <duanedesign> pleia2: ♪♪ happy birthday to you ♪♪ happy birthday to you ♪♪ happy birthday pleia2 ♪♪ happy birthday to you ♪♪
[19:11] <JFo> go pleia2, it's your birthday...
[19:11] <pleia2> thanks duanedesign, cjohnston :)
[19:11] <duanedesign> jono is posting a link to a picture of hime with hair :D
[19:12] <cjohnston> post it here
[19:14] <duanedesign> http://www.severedfifth.com/2008/06/29/taking-a-trip-down-memory-lane/
[19:15] <JFo> holy hairy jono batman!
[19:15] <cjohnston> lol
[19:18] <highvoltage> czajkowski: whohoo!
[20:33] <jcastro> I wonder why my mails to -devel still go in the mod queue, I'm sending from ubuntu.com and I've been subbed for like 4 years
[20:34] <cjohnston> maybe its a hint
[20:34] <cjohnston> ;-)
[20:34] <czajkowski> jcastro: message length ?
[20:34] <jcastro> I don't think it's that
[22:10] <scott-work> doctormo: are you around yet?
[22:13] <nhandler> jcastro: I think in the moderation email it mentions the reason
[22:17] <jcastro> "Post by non-developer to moderated list."
[22:19] <maco> you have to get someone to whitelist you
[22:21] <maco> email the admins (bottom of listinfo page)
[22:23] <jcastro> ahh, thanks!
[22:36] <doctormo> scott-work: back
[22:38] <scott-work> doctormo:  how is your tablet packaging coming along?  are you close to getting it into the ubuntu repositories?
[22:39] <doctormo> scott-work: I haven't had any response or communication so far.
[22:39] <scott-work> doctormo:  have you filed a bug to get it into the repositories?
[22:40] <scott-work> doctormo: we could also talk to someone at the debian mulitmedia team about it as well
[22:40] <doctormo> ok
[22:40] <doctormo> no I don't think
[22:46] <scott-work> doctormo: sorry, my webchat window buggered on me
[23:40] <ScottL> doctormo, i would really like to position myself and Ubuntu Studio as strong advocates for your package
[23:40] <ScottL> doctormo, i would really like to get it into the archives so that it can be included in Ubuntu Studio :)
[23:53] <doctormo> ScottL: This would be the wizardpen user space driver.