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bcurtiswx | https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~bcurtiswx/ubuntu/maverick/gnome-themes/gnome-themes-2.32.0/+merge/36939 | 00:08 |
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RAOF | No Eastern Edition, then? | 00:30 |
bcurtiswx | ? | 00:32 |
RAOF | There'd normally be a Desktop team meeting: Eastern Edition (for all of us in the future). | 00:32 |
bcurtiswx | ohh, ok | 00:33 |
TheMuso | heh | 00:34 |
TheMuso | By the looks of it, Rick hasn't been around for 6 hours or so, at least that is his idle time. | 00:35 |
bcurtiswx | [UPDATING] gnome-screensaver | 00:39 |
rickspencer3 | hey RAOF | 00:43 |
rickspencer3 | hey TheMuso | 00:43 |
rickspencer3 | I've been around | 00:43 |
rickspencer3 | however, I haven't had time to prepare for the meeting and such :( | 00:43 |
* rickspencer3 looks at meeting wiki | 00:43 | |
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rickspencer3 | RAOF, TheMuso? | 00:49 |
TheMuso | Yep | 00:49 |
RAOF | Yah. | 00:50 |
RAOF | Sorry; I'm pondering if shouting at this code will make it reveal where it's returning a BadDrawable without printing something to Xorg.0.log. :) | 00:50 |
rickspencer3 | WHERE ARE YOU RETURNING BADDRAWABLE! | 00:51 |
* rickspencer3 POUNDS FIST ON DESK | 00:51 | |
rickspencer3 | just doing what I can to help RAOF | 00:51 |
RAOF | Ta :) | 00:51 |
rickspencer3 | RAOF, TheMuso so, I have nothing to add to the meeting minutes, except a couple of things | 00:52 |
rickspencer3 | 1. the new font is in! depending on testing, it may get set to be default for maverick | 00:52 |
rickspencer3 | 2. UDS ... | 00:52 |
rickspencer3 | so, we started some discussion on @u-d regarding the different tracks | 00:53 |
rickspencer3 | so, around next week, it will be time to start creating blueprints | 00:53 |
TheMuso | Right. | 00:54 |
rickspencer3 | TheMuso, it looks like your rotation is going through ok, but lynda is out this week | 00:55 |
TheMuso | Ok. | 00:55 |
rickspencer3 | but sabdfl and dbarth and everybody ack'ed it | 00:55 |
TheMuso | Sweet. | 00:55 |
rickspencer3 | so, I don't foresee any problems | 00:55 |
TheMuso | rickspencer3: I'd like to announce this to the accessibility community. Should I wait for official word/the official ok before doing so? | 00:56 |
rickspencer3 | TheMuso, well ... | 00:56 |
rickspencer3 | I think it's fine to mention that you are planning on it | 00:56 |
rickspencer3 | and it looks like it is going to happen | 00:57 |
rickspencer3 | but maybe leave the 5% wiggle room in case something goes haywire | 00:57 |
TheMuso | Ok sounds good. | 00:57 |
TheMuso | Yep | 00:57 |
rickspencer3 | but really, I don't foresee any issues | 00:57 |
rickspencer3 | of course, I rarely do :/ | 00:57 |
rickspencer3 | TheMuso, I'm happy for you | 00:57 |
rickspencer3 | I think it will be fun and useful, and a much deserved break from routine | 00:58 |
TheMuso | Yeah, should be good. David emailed me regarding the project the other day, I am yet to respond, been busy with bugs/final freeze stuff. | 00:58 |
TheMuso | Intend to get back to him today. | 00:58 |
rickspencer3 | sounds great | 00:58 |
TheMuso | Yeah, need to start reading up on the mystery that is atk... | 00:59 |
TheMuso | ...and clutter + cally | 00:59 |
RAOF | You're going to be a11y-ing unity (or something similar)? Cool! | 01:00 |
TheMuso | RAOF: pretty much. | 01:00 |
TheMuso | I really should install it, and get used to it in its current state. | 01:03 |
bcurtiswx | chrisccoulson, did your patch for gnome-screensaver Don't crash on systems that don't support XF86VM or XRANDR gamma fade get backported to 2.30.0 (im getting patch failures on build) | 01:07 |
bcurtiswx | for 2.30.1 | 01:07 |
rickspencer3 | folks, it's been a looong dy | 01:12 |
rickspencer3 | time for me to go to real life | 01:13 |
desrt | rickspencer3: good night | 01:13 |
rickspencer3 | unless RAOF or TheMuso need something | 01:13 |
bcurtiswx | nite rickspencer3 | 01:13 |
rickspencer3 | desrt! | 01:13 |
RAOF | Good night! | 01:13 |
TheMuso | Fine here. | 01:13 |
desrt | rickspencer!! | 01:13 |
rickspencer3 | thanks bcurtiswx :) | 01:13 |
rickspencer3 | desrt, Orlando? | 01:13 |
desrt | ya. of course | 01:13 |
desrt | booked my tix today | 01:13 |
rickspencer3 | chouette | 01:13 |
desrt | took me a second to figure out what you were trying to say :) | 01:14 |
rickspencer3 | :) | 01:14 |
desrt | have a good night :) | 01:14 |
rickspencer3 | g'night all | 01:14 |
candoman | I've installed 10.04 AMD64 on an Intel core i3 laptop inside of Win7....on boot, Ubuntu hangs....any known issues? | 02:59 |
tgall_foo | any xfce / xubuntu experts about ? | 03:13 |
charlie-tca | Not an expert, but might have an answer | 03:14 |
tgall_foo | do you know what controls the layout of the menu up at the top ? IE Applications / firefox icon ... etc ? | 03:14 |
charlie-tca | I do not. but the experts in #xubuntu-devel probably do | 03:15 |
tgall_foo | ok thanks charlie-tca .. I'll wander over there | 03:15 |
charlie-tca | sorry to chase you around | 03:15 |
tgall_foo | o it's ok .. all part of the fun! | 03:16 |
pitti | Good morning | 07:47 |
didrocks | good morning | 08:26 |
RAOF | Aloha didrocks | 08:27 |
didrocks | hey RAOF | 08:27 |
pitti | sabdfl: we'll SRU the missing Klingon glyphs, won't we? | 08:30 |
pitti | Qapla'! | 08:31 |
didrocks | hey pitti ;) | 08:31 |
pitti | bonjour didrocks | 08:31 |
didrocks | you will patch the font to get Klingon support? :) | 08:31 |
ara | good morning seb128 | 08:31 |
pitti | nah | 08:31 |
seb128 | hey ara didrocks pitti | 08:31 |
didrocks | salut seb128 | 08:32 |
ara | seb128, I tried to run "unity -p" in the machine where quadrapassel was failing, and it fails as well | 08:32 |
ara | hey pitti, didrocks | 08:32 |
* pitti waves to ara and seb128 | 08:32 | |
RAOF | ara: Yeah, I've hunted that down. | 08:32 |
seb128 | ara, ok, so seems it's either a clutter or xorg issue | 08:32 |
RAOF | It's a mesa issue. | 08:32 |
didrocks | I saw some bug report about quadrapssel failing under UNE | 08:32 |
ara | RAOF has the answer :) | 08:33 |
didrocks | tried yesterday and can't reproduce with my card/driver | 08:33 |
RAOF | But, of course, it's a mesa issue in resource clean up, so I'd like to ensure that I don't cause memory leaks in the process of fixing it. | 08:33 |
sabdfl | pitti: i hope so. those Klingons can be short-tempered | 08:37 |
sabdfl | we're negotiating a copyright assignment from the Klingon Federation right now | 08:37 |
SmSpillaz | sabdfl: hahahahaa | 08:38 |
seb128 | mvo, hey | 08:39 |
seb128 | mvo, great work on software-center this cycle ;-) | 08:39 |
seb128 | hey dpm | 08:41 |
dpm | hey seb128, morning | 08:41 |
pitti | sabdfl: the guys that they send when they have a grudge are usually NOT lawyers, though | 08:41 |
didrocks | mvo: hey, for your information, desktopcouch is now syncing! and I got my oneconf machines synced!!! ;) | 08:42 |
mvo | seb128: thanks :) | 08:45 |
mvo | didrocks: really?!? | 08:45 |
didrocks | mvo: yeah, for real :) | 08:45 |
mvo | cool, I had given up hope already ;) | 08:47 |
* mvo tries it out once again | 08:47 | |
didrocks | mvo: do you have some data with an old oneconf version (old == before the first packaged version)? (I slightly changed the format and I need to fix it today as I was synced with an old machine) | 08:50 |
mvo | didrocks: possible, but i'm not sure, how do I find out? | 08:51 |
didrocks | mvo: you will have a oneconf-service crash when clicking on inventory on ubuntu one, but the window should appear :) | 08:52 |
mvo | didrocks: its something else then, look like a issue somewhere deep inside /usr/lib/pymodules/python2.6/ubuntuone/api/restclient.py and libproxy and ctypes | 08:53 |
mvo | getProxies() | 08:53 |
didrocks | yeah, that's one call I'm making in the settings dialog | 08:54 |
mvo | it looks like its crashing while calling px_proxy_factory_get_proxies() | 08:54 |
mvo | ha! | 08:55 |
mvo | unset http_proxy | 08:55 |
didrocks | it's unset there | 08:55 |
mvo | bang, now again | 08:55 |
mvo | again in libproxy | 08:56 |
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zyga | mvo, hi | 11:37 |
zyga | mvo, could the software center notify of finished aptd transactions (stuff being installed) if someone triggered the operation then closed the software center? | 11:38 |
vuntz | didrocks: ok, seb128 left, so question for you :-) | 11:54 |
vuntz | didrocks: I'm going to release pango 1.28.3 which will require gobject-introspection 0.9.5. The only change in there, though, is a change to fix the build with recent versions of gobject-introspection | 11:55 |
vuntz | didrocks: I guess you won't care much? | 11:55 |
Laney | jcastro: awesome post! | 11:55 |
didrocks | vuntz: well, as we don't have gobject-introspection 0.9.5 and if the only change is to fix building with this one, I think we won't care much, right :) | 11:56 |
Laney | ♥ banshee ♥ | 11:56 |
didrocks | vuntz: thanks for the info ;) | 11:57 |
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mvo | zyga: hello, yes, that can be done. sofware-center will also pick up the transaction if you open it later (if the transaction is still runinng of couse) | 12:24 |
zyga | mvo, right, I realize it can be done, I'm just (lazily) pointing out that it's something that could probably give lots of benefit | 12:25 |
didrocks | dpm: not sure what's the process for invalid translation: bug #650722 | 12:27 |
ubot2 | Launchpad bug 650722 in unity "MAJOR error in french translation (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/650722 | 12:27 |
seb128 | didrocks, reassign to language-pack-gnome-fr | 12:28 |
seb128 | didrocks, you might want to assign to ubuntu-l10n-fr as well | 12:28 |
seb128 | or whatever is the french translation team name in launchpad | 12:28 |
dpm | seb128, didrocks we tend not to assign bugs to language packs | 12:29 |
dpm | in translations | 12:29 |
mvo | zyga: indeed, food of thought for mpt :) | 12:29 |
dpm | we rather add an ubuntu-translations task | 12:29 |
dpm | and assign it to the teams | 12:29 |
didrocks | ok, doing then | 12:29 |
didrocks | thanks seb128 and dpm :) | 12:29 |
dpm | the team names are always ubuntu-l10n-$CODE | 12:29 |
dpm | I've just done that | 12:30 |
didrocks | seeing that, thanks! | 12:30 |
seb128 | dpm, I tend to assign to langpacks ;-) | 12:30 |
didrocks | :) | 12:30 |
seb128 | dpm, should we just mark the task invalid and open an ubuntu-translations one rather? | 12:30 |
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dpm | seb128, the translations task has already been open. As for marking the unity task as invalid, I'll leave it up to didrocks to decide :). I think it's useful to have it, to know which project or package is affected, but the maintainer might have another view | 12:32 |
didrocks | (already marked as invalid :p) | 12:33 |
dpm | there you go :) | 12:33 |
didrocks | just left there, but I like and try get a NEW status cleaned | 12:33 |
seb128 | dpm, well it's not a bug in unity, that's why I usually reassign to the langpacks | 12:33 |
aquarius | mvo, ping | 12:33 |
dpm | seb128, that's fine, but I'd suggest reassigning it to ubuntu-translations then, as then we have an overview of translations bugs there. It's much easier than to follow the bugs for all language packs | 12:35 |
seb128 | dpm, well ubuntu-translations is a project no? | 12:35 |
seb128 | dpm, you can't reassign an ubuntu task to a project | 12:35 |
mvo | hey aquarius | 12:35 |
seb128 | you either need to close it or reassign to an ubuntu source | 12:35 |
seb128 | dpm, but yeah, gotcha you guys care about having an ubuntu-translations task, whatever we do with the ubuntu task doesn't matter a lot | 12:36 |
aquarius | mvo, we're starting to roll out the fixes to desktopcouch now; didrocks tells me you're still having problems, and I just want to clarify what your problem is so that I can know that it's one of the things that the rollouts will fix :) | 12:36 |
dpm | seb128, ah, I see, I hadn't thought of that. Yeah, so reassigning to langpack and adding an ubuntu-translations task might then be best | 12:37 |
mvo | aquarius: in a nutshell its not syncing | 12:37 |
aquarius | mvo, I could use a slightly bigger nutshell than that :) | 12:38 |
mvo | aquarius: haha, sure. hold on a sec I will pastebin the output of /usr/lib/desktopcouch/desktopcouch-service | 12:38 |
seb128 | dpm, ok, great, thanks | 12:38 |
seb128 | mvo, syncing is overrated ;-) | 12:38 |
aquarius | seb128, sssssh! don't say that! you'll make me cry :) | 12:38 |
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mvo | aquarius: it *looks* like the problem is that I need to register this (new) machine on the web, but none of the gtk tools told me that, the u1 control panel says its connected | 12:39 |
aquarius | mvo, if the control panel says it's connected then DC picks up on that, so I suspect that isn't quite the problem. If you can pastebin I'll take a look | 12:42 |
mvo | aquarius: "INFO:root:This machine hasn't authorized itself to Ubuntu One; replication to the cloud isn't possible until it has. See 'ubuntuone-client-applet'." <- but the applet tells me nothing (and there is no such command). I feel a bit stupid now, what knob did I forgot to turn? | 12:42 |
aquarius | wtf? | 12:42 |
* aquarius does the scratchy-head thing | 12:42 | |
mvo | aquarius: the ubuntuone panel in preference tells me that "bod" (my machine) is connected | 12:42 |
aquarius | ah | 12:42 |
aquarius | a lightbulb goes on | 12:42 |
aquarius | need to clarify something with chipaca :) | 12:43 |
aquarius | (the error message needs updating to not refer to the applet, oops :)) | 12:45 |
mvo | ok :) | 12:45 |
aquarius | I know what the problem is, I just need to find out what the status of the fix is. It's all SSO's fault. :-) | 12:46 |
seb128 | aquarius, hey btw ;-) keep your nice work I'm sure one day desktopcouch will work for somebody ;-) | 12:47 |
aquarius | seb128, that's the Holy Grail I'm aiming for. :) | 12:47 |
seb128 | ;-) | 12:47 |
mvo | that is works for somebody? or for everybody ;) ? | 12:47 |
aquarius | it works for *some* people now, promise | 12:48 |
seb128 | some being kenvandine? ;-) | 12:48 |
seb128 | I'm sure you paid him to say that it works for him! | 12:48 |
seb128 | ;-) | 12:48 |
aquarius | I'm too busy paying ken for all the other stuff he does for me, let alone that, hehe | 12:49 |
bcurtiswx | seb128, i did this last night https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~bcurtiswx/ubuntu/maverick/gnome-themes/gnome-themes-2.32.0/+merge/36939 | 13:15 |
seb128 | bcurtiswx, thanks | 13:18 |
bcurtiswx | seb128, NP. off to work. wee | 13:19 |
seb128 | see you! | 13:19 |
cyphermox | mornin | 13:21 |
Chipaca | aquarius: hi | 13:23 |
Chipaca | aquarius: what? | 13:23 |
mterry | Nouveau can't handle unity apparently? too bad | 13:26 |
aquarius | mvo, which version of desktopcouch do you have? | 13:26 |
mvo | 0.6.8-0ubuntu1 | 13:27 |
aquarius | Chipaca, ^ | 13:29 |
Chipaca | yes | 13:31 |
Chipaca | there should be a new version RSN | 13:31 |
Chipaca | I was expecting it to be in the archive already | 13:31 |
Chipaca | need to check on that | 13:31 |
nessita | Chipaca: seems like is not... https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/desktopcouch | 13:31 |
mvo | I can build myself or instlal from a ppa if that helps? | 13:33 |
didrocks | mterry: some people can get it, but most of people trying seem to fail, right | 13:35 |
mterry | didrocks, oh, it's good enough on some cards, but not others? Interesting | 13:35 |
mterry | didrocks, seems like unity doesn't stress cards too much. seems odd | 13:35 |
didrocks | mterry: yeah, some people were telling that they happily run it. | 13:36 |
didrocks | mterry: well, there is the direct GL calls too | 13:36 |
didrocks | are* | 13:36 |
nessita | mvo: if you want to build, this is the branch: https://code.launchpad.net/~cmiller/ubuntu/maverick/desktopcouch/0.6.9 | 13:37 |
seb128 | mvo, dget http://launchpadlibrarian.net/56680222/desktopcouch_0.6.9-0ubuntu1.dsc? | 13:38 |
kenvandine | Chipaca, it is in the unapproved queue | 13:38 |
seb128 | mvo, it's in the unapproved queue | 13:38 |
seb128 | https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/+queue?queue_state=1&queue_text= | 13:38 |
kenvandine | hey seb128 | 13:38 |
seb128 | hello kenvandine | 13:38 |
nessita | kenvandine: any idea why is unapproved? | 13:39 |
seb128 | nessita, because we are frozen for RC | 13:40 |
seb128 | nothing get it until RC is out | 13:40 |
seb128 | and only selected updates will be accepted between RC and release | 13:40 |
nessita | seb128: isn't there any way of getting this in? desktopcouch will not work on RC for U1 otherwise | 13:41 |
seb128 | no | 13:41 |
seb128 | CDs images have been rolled yesterday | 13:41 |
seb128 | there will be no respin out of blocker bugs | 13:42 |
mterry | Oh noes. /me just chose the wrong hard drive to erase during ISO testing | 13:42 |
seb128 | this is not really a blocker for the CD and doesn't warrant restarting spinning all isos and testing them again | 13:42 |
seb128 | mterry, urg :-( | 13:42 |
nessita | seb128: I understand. Thanks for the info :-) | 13:43 |
mterry | Hopefully I have a recent workable backup | 13:43 |
mvo | nessita, seb128: thanks, I have it now installed, its giving more output, unfortunately still a bunch of ServerError: (400, ('invalid_consumer', 'Invalid consumer (key or signature method).')) | 13:52 |
nessita | mvo: yeah, that's a server issue me and thisfred are working on | 13:53 |
mvo | aha, ok | 13:53 |
nessita | mvo: the fact that you have a 400 means the desktop part "worked" (server bug is #648921) | 13:54 |
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jcastro | seb128: that tomboy menu bug you 'Low'ed breaks tomboy for derivatives like xubuntu, which don't ship app indicators | 14:03 |
seb128 | jcastro, I just lowered the tomboy task because it seemed to be an appindicator issue | 14:04 |
jcastro | ah | 14:04 |
seb128 | jcastro, feel free to change the settings | 14:04 |
jcastro | actually I was hoping for help on that one. :) | 14:04 |
seb128 | but I doubt the settings will make a difference on who does what on that | 14:04 |
jcastro | yeah, I just saw the one person complaining | 14:04 |
seb128 | it just need somebody to work on it | 14:05 |
kenvandine | didrocks, when une fails on the livecd, because of graphics, the fallback requires typing in the user name in gdm | 14:05 |
kenvandine | didrocks, which is weird, people might not know the username is ubuntu... | 14:05 |
seb128 | jcastro, well xubuntu probably doesn't ship mono either | 14:05 |
kenvandine | not sure what causes that... do we hide that user from the gdm list somehow? | 14:05 |
jcastro | seb128: I heard ken needs something to do today | 14:05 |
seb128 | jcastro, it's probably the sort of issue we can sru | 14:05 |
* jcastro runs | 14:05 | |
kenvandine | didrocks, good news is it worked :) | 14:05 |
seb128 | jcastro, it doesn't need to be fixed on the CD | 14:05 |
* kenvandine smacks jcastro | 14:05 | |
kenvandine | :) | 14:05 |
didrocks | kenvandine: this is a gdm issue on the live, not une :) | 14:05 |
mterry | kenvandine, I just filed bug 651085 about that | 14:05 |
ubot2 | Launchpad bug 651085 in netbook-meta (Ubuntu) "When installing UNE, not clear what to do when GPU isn't supported (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/651085 | 14:05 |
kenvandine | didrocks, i figured... | 14:05 |
didrocks | kenvandine: but it's still better than before where there was a crash :) | 14:06 |
kenvandine | didrocks, the fallback is nice though :) | 14:06 |
kenvandine | indeed | 14:06 |
kenvandine | good work | 14:06 |
didrocks | heh, thanks :) | 14:06 |
didrocks | kenvandine: it's not ubuntu-meta, it's gdm | 14:08 |
didrocks | oupss, mterry ^^ | 14:08 |
mterry | didrocks, OK, will move | 14:09 |
didrocks | it's a general issue when you logout in the live session | 14:10 |
didrocks | hum, maybe that's because I'm writing .dmrc btw | 14:12 |
* didrocks thinks harder | 14:12 | |
didrocks | need to try the desktop live again :) | 14:12 |
kenvandine | i can test that... | 14:13 |
kenvandine | should i remove the .dmrc and restart gdm? | 14:13 |
didrocks | kenvandine: yes please! :) | 14:13 |
kenvandine | sure | 14:13 |
kenvandine | i just started booting une live in a VM | 14:13 |
kenvandine | :) | 14:13 |
didrocks | hum, you will have autologin I guess | 14:13 |
kenvandine | it will fallback | 14:14 |
didrocks | yeah, but it will create .dmrc then :p | 14:14 |
kenvandine | oh... yeah | 14:14 |
didrocks | the .dmrc is created by the fallback in fact | 14:14 |
didrocks | so that it chooses the gnome session then | 14:14 |
kenvandine | i removed it after the fallback | 14:14 |
didrocks | yeah, but it will be too late :) | 14:14 |
kenvandine | but of course that just causes a loop | 14:14 |
didrocks | gdm will have been restarted! | 14:14 |
kenvandine | actually it does work | 14:15 |
didrocks | hum, can you change the default in /etc/gdm/custom.conf ? | 14:15 |
didrocks | oh really? | 14:15 |
kenvandine | yeah | 14:15 |
didrocks | so, it doesn't ask for a username? | 14:15 |
kenvandine | so after the fallback, i dropped to a console and removed .dmrc | 14:15 |
kenvandine | and restarted gdm | 14:15 |
kenvandine | it then prompted me a second time to install or try ubuntu | 14:15 |
didrocks | ok, it doesn't trigger the autologin then… weird :) | 14:15 |
kenvandine | and clicking on try sent me into gnome | 14:15 |
didrocks | hum | 14:16 |
kenvandine | which i don't understand | 14:16 |
kenvandine | since the .dmrc isn't there anymore | 14:16 |
didrocks | that's another bug I guess :) | 14:16 |
didrocks | oh | 14:16 |
didrocks | there is the gdm cache one! | 14:16 |
kenvandine | ah | 14:16 |
kenvandine | it is a little ugly though, since you have to answer the try/install question again | 14:16 |
didrocks | /var/cache/gdm/ubuntu/dmrc | 14:16 |
didrocks | yeah, but it's not the solution :) | 14:17 |
kenvandine | yeah | 14:17 |
didrocks | I just want to know if it's asking the username as a side effect of having a .dmrc | 14:17 |
* didrocks grabs his test computer again | 14:17 | |
didrocks | desktop cd, logout | 14:17 |
didrocks | and see if ubuntu is prefiled or not | 14:18 |
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* mterry has to run out for a bit | 14:24 | |
didrocks | later mterry | 14:29 |
didrocks | kenvandine: yeah, it's the same in the desktop cd as well | 14:30 |
didrocks | IIRC, we got it prefilled, with just "log in" and no username | 14:31 |
didrocks | seb128: does it ring a bell or was I dreaming? ^ | 14:31 |
seb128 | didrocks, what? | 14:32 |
didrocks | seb128: when you logout in the live session and get to gdm | 14:32 |
didrocks | seb128: IIRC, we got just the "login" button and no need to enter a username | 14:32 |
seb128 | I think that's the case yes | 14:32 |
seb128 | let me test | 14:32 |
didrocks | ok, it's not on the RC | 14:33 |
seb128 | what? it doesn't work? | 14:33 |
* didrocks fetches beta CD | 14:33 | |
didrocks | yeah, I have to enter the username | 14:33 |
seb128 | I'm starting a lucid iso in kvm | 14:33 |
didrocks | oh, if you still have one, that's great :) | 14:34 |
didrocks | I'm also sure it was still the case on beta, just downloading it to confirm | 14:36 |
seb128 | didrocks, on lucid I get a "log in" button | 14:38 |
seb128 | when clicking on it it asks for username and password | 14:38 |
didrocks | oh, it still asks for username | 14:38 |
didrocks | but only a log in button at start, and now we have directly username prompt | 14:38 |
didrocks | hence the surprize | 14:38 |
seb128 | didrocks, right, that's a fix in the new gdm | 14:39 |
didrocks | but no noticeable difference for the experience at the end (in the good way) | 14:39 |
seb128 | users complaining to have to click on a "log in" button which is useless | 14:39 |
didrocks | right, makes sense | 14:39 |
didrocks | but on the live, people don't know they should enter "ubuntu" as a username, we should have some bugs about that already | 14:39 |
didrocks | as it was also the case in lucid | 14:40 |
didrocks | do you think it should be fixed? (I'm not sure) | 14:40 |
cassidy | didrocks, seb128, you'll have GTK3 in Maverick+1, right ? | 14:41 |
seb128 | didrocks, I think we have other issues to work on that fixing logout on livecd | 14:41 |
seb128 | cassidy, by default you mean? | 14:41 |
cassidy | yep | 14:41 |
seb128 | cassidy, that's the plan yes | 14:41 |
cassidy | I'm going to drop GTK 2 compat in Empathy master | 14:41 |
cassidy | too many API changes in GTK3, I can't keep both | 14:41 |
didrocks | seb128: yeah, I agree, it's just pretty weird with the case your netwook doesn't support 3D, but well :) the experience | 14:41 |
seb128 | cassidy, ok | 14:43 |
cassidy | and 2.91.0 is supposed to build with GTK3 so... | 14:43 |
seb128 | cassidy, we will get gtk3 for sure on the CD next cycle | 14:44 |
cassidy | great, thx | 14:44 |
seb128 | we might still have gtk2 as well but that's not sure | 14:44 |
seb128 | we will see how much we can transition | 14:44 |
* didrocks see tons of WI about "handling gtk2/3 on the CD" :) | 14:45 | |
seb128 | didrocks, rodrigo_: hum, the ubuntu one email in french has no title nor sender | 14:50 |
seb128 | it's displayed as an empty list in the inbox | 14:50 |
seb128 | list -> line | 14:50 |
* didrocks opens | 14:50 | |
rodrigo_ | seb128, hmm, looking | 14:51 |
didrocks | right… | 14:51 |
seb128 | kenvandine, https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=622134 | 14:51 |
ubot2 | Gnome bug 622134 in general "PiTiVi constantly crashes when zooming in the track" [Blocker,New] | 14:51 |
rodrigo_ | seb128, I checked several languages, not sure if the French one | 14:51 |
seb128 | kenvandine, can you get that fix uploaded? | 14:51 |
seb128 | kenvandine, upstream request, the fix is in the last comment and the launchpad bug is listed | 14:52 |
seb128 | kenvandine, it's a goocanvas one | 14:52 |
* seb128 fixes tomboy indicator patch to have its string translatable | 14:53 | |
seb128 | it's not listed in the potfiles so not in the template :-( | 14:53 |
kenvandine | seb128, sure | 14:54 |
didrocks | rodrigo_: there is an addition empty line, I think that's what is wrong, checking other languages | 15:03 |
rodrigo_ | didrocks, yes, checking also | 15:04 |
didrocks | rodrigo_: ok, it was the only one. Fixed there. We know now that you hate French people :) | 15:05 |
rodrigo_ | no, I don't, je vous aime :-) | 15:05 |
rodrigo_ | but there were so many languages, that I just checked a few | 15:05 |
rodrigo_ | and talked with dpm so that the translators will check them | 15:06 |
rodrigo_ | didrocks, so, you've fixed it? | 15:06 |
didrocks | rodrigo_: yeah, it's fixed :) | 15:06 |
rodrigo_ | ok | 15:06 |
rodrigo_ | thanks! | 15:06 |
didrocks | yw ;) | 15:06 |
didrocks | seb128: is there a bug report about it? | 15:06 |
seb128 | didrocks, no | 15:06 |
seb128 | I just noticed it there | 15:06 |
didrocks | ok, commit to bzr for now, will wait if others things happen before uploading | 15:07 |
seb128 | ok | 15:07 |
doko_ | seb128: which of the build failures in lucas's test rebuild did you want to fix. sorry, didn't make notes about it | 15:17 |
seb128 | doko_, gnome-applets | 15:21 |
seb128 | well we have a fix for this one, we can probably help on some others as time permit | 15:22 |
seb128 | doko_, apport is a false positive according to pitti | 15:22 |
seb128 | mterry, can you work on the desktop-webmail and devhelp ones? | 15:22 |
seb128 | chrisccoulson, do you still plan to work on telepathy-glib? | 15:23 |
chrisccoulson | seb128 - yeah, i'll get back on to that one now actually | 15:23 |
mterry | seb128, yes... reading backlog | 15:23 |
seb128 | doko_, ^ we will work on those to start, we might help on some others once those are done | 15:24 |
seb128 | mterry, same as yesterday, ftbfs on http://udd.debian.org/cgi-bin/ubuntu_ftbfs.cgi | 15:24 |
seb128 | mterry, thanks! | 15:24 |
mterry | seb128, yup | 15:24 |
seb128 | chrisccoulson, thanks | 15:24 |
seb128 | mterry, btw did you note the updates you did that didn't get sponsored? | 15:25 |
seb128 | mterry, we can get some of those in between rc and release | 15:25 |
mterry | seb128, I believe just brasero and meld | 15:25 |
seb128 | mterry, ok, and gnome-applets | 15:26 |
mterry | seb128, oh sure for the ftbfs | 15:26 |
seb128 | I will sponsor gnome-applets and brasero and review meld which was less trivial | 15:26 |
pitti | hm, what happened with the gvfs 1.6.4 update? | 15:32 |
pitti | right now we have 1.6.2 | 15:32 |
pitti | which falsely claims to be 1.6.3 | 15:32 |
james_w | usleep (10 * 1000); /* since fflush(3) seems buggy */ <- yay, exactly the sort of comment you want to see when investigating a race | 15:32 |
seb128 | pitti, how so falsely? | 15:32 |
pitti | seb128: Robert added a changelog entry for 1.6.3 without actually doing bzr merge-upstream for 1.6.3 | 15:33 |
seb128 | pitti, 1.6.4 main diff was to fix ssh support with new openssh which seems to break it with ours | 15:33 |
pitti | seb128: which now means that we have a debian/patches/debian_changes_* which reverts the 1.6.2->1.6.3 changes | 15:33 |
seb128 | :-( | 15:33 |
pitti | but it also dropped some patches that we had before | 15:33 |
cyphermox | seb128, pitti, I have a branch with this all fixed already | 15:33 |
seb128 | that's what we get to have one source having a different workflow and people not used to it | 15:33 |
pitti | cyphermox: ah, good, I was about to ask about it | 15:34 |
cyphermox | + up to 1.6.4 | 15:34 |
pitti | so we should probably revert that to a real 1.6.3? | 15:34 |
seb128 | or 1.6.4 with the one commit break ssh reverted | 15:34 |
cyphermox | seb128, that's its current state | 15:34 |
pitti | *nod* | 15:34 |
seb128 | pitti, can you get review and sponsor that? | 15:35 |
pitti | yep, can do; meeting just ended | 15:35 |
cyphermox | pitti, I'll take another look to be sure, so I'll ping you in a minute | 15:35 |
seb128 | cyphermox, pitti: thanks | 15:35 |
pitti | cyphermox: please let me know which branch | 15:35 |
pitti | cyphermox: easy check: debian.tar.gz should have no debian_changes patch? | 15:35 |
kenvandine | seb128, i can confirm the pygoocanvas fixes the crasher... but doesn't really fix the bug | 15:36 |
cyphermox | right, but I also want to make sure I did revert the ssh commit | 15:36 |
didrocks | james_w: excellent :) | 15:36 |
kenvandine | when it would have crashed before, it no longer renders the thumbnail | 15:36 |
cyphermox | pitti: lp:~mathieu-tl/gvfs/update-to-1.6.4 | 15:36 |
kenvandine | and spews out cairo errors in the console | 15:36 |
kenvandine | but at least it doesn't crash, so definately worth uploading | 15:36 |
james_w | didrocks: do you know much about glib internals? | 15:37 |
james_w | didrocks: like if a g_source_remove is implemented by writing "B" to an fd? | 15:37 |
didrocks | james_w: not that much, I think seb128 and njpatel would know more than me, what's up? | 15:37 |
cyphermox | pitti, there wasn't much besides that commit though, and the gconf init patch had already been cherry-picked to 1.6.3, that's what I mentioned monday and why I didn't propose it | 15:37 |
seb128 | kenvandine, can you talk to twi_ on #pitivi? | 15:38 |
kenvandine | sure | 15:38 |
didrocks | james_w: yeah, that's "too internal" for me :) | 15:38 |
cyphermox | pitti, are you looking at it already or waiting for a merge request? | 15:39 |
seb128 | kenvandine, ok | 15:39 |
pitti | cyphermox: checking out now | 15:39 |
cyphermox | pitti, ok | 15:39 |
pitti | cyphermox: r131 "Revert all patches" just meant to unapply them from the source tree, right? | 15:41 |
cyphermox | pitti, right | 15:41 |
cyphermox | sorry, not as clear as it sounded at first ;) | 15:41 |
pitti | np | 15:41 |
pitti | cyphermox: and r132 was a merge-upstream with the 1.6.4 tarball? | 15:41 |
cyphermox | correct | 15:42 |
pitti | looks fine | 15:43 |
* pitti pulls it into lp:ubuntu/gvfs | 15:43 | |
pitti | cyphermox: can you please do another commit about adding the NEWS items to the changelog? | 15:44 |
pitti | we use to do that, and it's even more important at those "deep freeze" times | 15:44 |
cyphermox | pitti, sure | 15:44 |
pitti | pushed | 15:44 |
seb128 | james_w, do you have a specific question? | 15:45 |
james_w | seb128: I'm grabbing the source to have a look, but I'm trying to correlate an strace with the source | 15:45 |
james_w | seb128: I'm seeing write(9, "B") when I think it should be executing a g_source_remove, so I wondered if that was the implementation of it | 15:45 |
seb128 | g_child_watch_signal_handler (int signum) | 15:47 |
seb128 | ... | 15:47 |
seb128 | write (child_watch_wake_up_pipe[1], "B", 1); | 15:47 |
james_w | seb128: thanks | 15:48 |
seb128 | james_w, in glib/gmain.c | 15:48 |
seb128 | james_w, you're welcome | 15:48 |
james_w | /* FIXME: Think this through for races */ | 16:00 |
seb128 | james_w, great ;-) | 16:02 |
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mterry | james_w, I notice that cairo's bzr is out of date with what's in the repos (by at least 3 weeks). Seems wrong? | 16:08 |
mterry | (lp:ubuntu/cairo that is) | 16:09 |
james_w | http://package-import.ubuntu.com/status/cairo.html | 16:09 |
james_w | will be up to date in 10 minutes | 16:10 |
mterry | james_w, ah neat page. Thanks | 16:11 |
kenvandine | wow... I think I FINALLY figured out why facebook keeps throttling gwibber! | 16:24 |
kenvandine | apparently we are over allocation for "FQL queries" but not for anything else | 16:24 |
seb128 | kenvandine, oh? what was it? | 16:24 |
* kenvandine wishes facebook would tell you this! | 16:24 | |
kenvandine | it is like sql, but for facebook :) | 16:24 |
seb128 | what action triggers those queries? | 16:25 |
kenvandine | you can do more complex queries and get less data back | 16:25 |
kenvandine | we use them a lot | 16:25 |
kenvandine | but because facebook suggests it | 16:25 |
kenvandine | to limit the result set | 16:25 |
kenvandine | but... if we didn't use it and parsed the data more on the client side, it would spread out the method calls | 16:26 |
kenvandine | so moving away from fql would mean downloading more data at a time | 16:26 |
kenvandine | but it would mean more evenly distributed method calls | 16:27 |
* kenvandine grumbles about facebook not being very transparent | 16:27 | |
kenvandine | they intentionally don't explain their allocation stuff, for some strange reason | 16:27 |
seb128 | they maybe don't like clients made by other people ;-) | 16:28 |
kenvandine | yup! | 16:28 |
kenvandine | that is actually true... and what they dislike the most is desktop clients | 16:28 |
kenvandine | they want to drive everything through their website | 16:29 |
seb128 | well it's understandable that's where they have ads | 16:29 |
seb128 | ie where they made money | 16:29 |
kenvandine | yeah | 16:29 |
hyperair | seb128: i hear that GNOME is releasing approximately now. are we going to have those new releases in ubuntu? | 16:30 |
kenvandine | ryan isn't going to be happy about this... he really prefers fql | 16:30 |
didrocks | hyperair: we already have it (for most of pieces :)) | 16:30 |
hyperair | didrocks: oh, i see. | 16:31 |
hyperair | didrocks: we've got a slight issue with banshee and libgpod, see. | 16:31 |
hyperair | didrocks: since we(ubuntu)'re releasing earlier this cycle than in the previous cycles, we're frozen so hard that the new libgpod can't come in and so banshee can't either. | 16:32 |
didrocks | hyperair: the stable version of banshee, you mean? | 16:32 |
didrocks | hyperair: they bump the requirement? | 16:32 |
hyperair | didrocks: yes. | 16:32 |
hyperair | didrocks: they need this new thing in libgpod# for playlists. | 16:33 |
didrocks | it's late for bumping requirements on shared components :/ | 16:33 |
hyperair | i know | 16:33 |
hyperair | and libgpod hasn't even released | 16:33 |
didrocks | it's like a feature in addition to that… | 16:33 |
hyperair | it should be released by today though | 16:33 |
didrocks | urgh | 16:33 |
gabaug | didrocks: can't libgpod get it the same way gnome does? | 16:33 |
gabaug | Banshee aligned our schedule with GNOME's just to make this kind of scheduling easier :-/ | 16:33 |
didrocks | gabaug: amarok and rhythmbox are using it as well not sure about that | 16:34 |
didrocks | gabaug: yeah, but libgpod isn't an external dependency? | 16:34 |
gabaug | didrocks: yeah, but doesn't glib etc all get updated about now too? :) | 16:34 |
seb128 | there is no way it gets in | 16:34 |
seb128 | I've seen the diffstat earlier | 16:34 |
didrocks | which means that requirements shouldn't get bumped at random time, | 16:34 |
seb128 | the only reason GNOME updates get it so late it's because GNOME is code frozen for 2 weeks | 16:34 |
gabaug | ok | 16:35 |
seb128 | the new tarballs only have translations updates | 16:35 |
seb128 | with some reviewed commit for rc issues | 16:35 |
seb128 | we are updating from candidate to stable versions | 16:35 |
Laney | I'd like to see it 0-day SRUed at least | 16:36 |
Laney | could that be done? | 16:36 |
seb128 | no | 16:36 |
seb128 | it can be sru-ed but there is no reason it should skip the week verification | 16:36 |
Laney | That's not what I meant. | 16:36 |
seb128 | oh ok, sorry | 16:36 |
Laney | 0-day as in in proposed at release | 16:36 |
seb128 | as I said earlier today the sru can be uploaded today | 16:37 |
Laney | good | 16:37 |
Laney | hyperair: let's do that then | 16:37 |
hyperair | yep | 16:37 |
seb128 | gabaug, being on the GNOME schedule will make things easier it's just late to have updated external depends | 16:38 |
seb128 | ideally by .90 you should be set for changes on just getting fixes | 16:38 |
seb128 | the transition to libgpod didn't make things easy this cycle though | 16:39 |
seb128 | it was made a bit late | 16:39 |
Laney | would be good if libgpod could get on the gnome schedule indeed | 16:40 |
seb128 | right | 16:41 |
seb128 | well it doesn't really have to | 16:41 |
seb128 | but how come you get new requirement between rc and stable? | 16:41 |
seb128 | did banshee got new feature? or has it not been working since the switch to libgpod? | 16:41 |
Laney | playlist support was missing | 16:42 |
Laney | and some other bugs that got through | 16:42 |
Laney | which required api support/fixes in libgpod | 16:42 |
Laney | benefits other consumers too | 16:42 |
seb128 | right, it's just getting late | 16:42 |
seb128 | once requirements are set it should be easier next cycle | 16:42 |
seb128 | usually we can manage with backporting bug fixes | 16:43 |
seb128 | but this set of libgpod changes seems a bit much for an after rc upload | 16:43 |
Laney | yeah it's not critical for the cd | 16:43 |
mterry | seb128, I can do more FTBFS work, but I'm not sure if any are already taken. Do I just check for bugs? | 16:55 |
seb128 | doko, ^ | 16:55 |
didrocks | there is just one assigned to the team | 16:56 |
seb128 | mterry, I guess open an unclaimed bugs are free to take | 16:56 |
didrocks | devhelp | 16:56 |
seb128 | mterry, ^ | 16:56 |
mterry | didrocks, just did devhelp | 16:56 |
doko | yes, this one and the cairo one | 16:56 |
seb128 | nautilus-sendto gnome-bluetooth gtksourceview2 are to update still | 16:56 |
doko | no more | 16:56 |
seb128 | if somebody want to do those | 16:56 |
mterry | all right, I'll look at them | 16:57 |
seb128 | they are just translation update versions so no hurry | 16:57 |
mterry | ah | 16:57 |
seb128 | what cairo one? | 16:57 |
seb128 | the one mterry just fixed? | 16:57 |
didrocks | I've just been assigned folks… I think vapi is still playing with us | 16:57 |
seb128 | didrocks, who assigned it to you? | 16:57 |
didrocks | doko did | 16:57 |
seb128 | didrocks, can you bounce back to chrisccoulson I think it's similar to telepathy-glib | 16:58 |
seb128 | doko, don't assign bugs to other people please, just assign to our team and let us dispatch | 16:58 |
didrocks | yeah, it should be similar, chrisccoulson can you have a look? | 16:58 |
doko | ok | 16:58 |
seb128 | thanks | 16:58 |
seb128 | didrocks, can you sponsor devhelp for mterry? | 16:59 |
seb128 | I will sponsor cairo and gnome-applets | 16:59 |
didrocks | sure | 16:59 |
mterry | seb128, ah, those packages are 2.32.0 updates. For some reason I thought we were still talking ftbfs | 17:01 |
seb128 | mterry, sorry for the confusion | 17:02 |
seb128 | I was just dumping task for people running out of things to do | 17:02 |
mterry | np, I misread and was wondering where you saw the ftbfs :) | 17:02 |
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didrocks | mterry: do you have the devhelp's branch handy? | 17:23 |
mterry | didrocks, you mean this: https://code.launchpad.net/~mterry/ubuntu/maverick/devhelp/651255/ | 17:23 |
didrocks | mterry: sweet, thanks! | 17:24 |
seb128 | ok, time for sport and dinner | 17:35 |
seb128 | bbl | 17:35 |
didrocks | see you seb128 | 17:36 |
seb128 | didrocks, see you later! | 17:36 |
bcurtiswx_ | sport and dinner, that would be an exercise, then dinner? | 17:43 |
chrisccoulson | didrocks, so........ | 17:56 |
* didrocks hides | 17:56 | |
chrisccoulson | ......vala 0.10.0 is not compatible with our gir version | 17:56 |
didrocks | yeah, I reverted the commits normally | 17:56 |
* cyphermox -> lunch | 17:56 | |
didrocks | it was a world of fun :) | 17:56 |
didrocks | hope that I didn't let a commit away | 17:57 |
didrocks | reverted something like 7-8 IIRC | 17:57 |
chrisccoulson | didrocks, yeah, it seems like we'll need to revert some more for vala | 17:58 |
didrocks | yeah, I was afraid to miss one. I tried to build some project using gir as a test and it was ok | 17:59 |
didrocks | but well, vapi and gir are so much fun :) | 17:59 |
* mterry looks forward to a more stable gir | 17:59 | |
fta | didrocks, thanks :) | 18:06 |
didrocks | fta: yw, sorry for the delay :) | 18:06 |
fta | didrocks, n-p | 18:07 |
chrisccoulson | didrocks, oh, it seems you only reverted the first hunk of http://git.gnome.org/browse/vala/commit/?h=0.10&id=fbec64baed9df348044203dd63beca8363b2df88 :) | 18:09 |
chrisccoulson | i take it that wasn't intentional ;) | 18:09 |
didrocks | chrisccoulson: hum, I remember having seen the other one reverted as well | 18:09 |
didrocks | it's not? | 18:09 |
didrocks | (I really remember about that hunk :)) | 18:10 |
chrisccoulson | didrocks, it doesn't look like it. and the changes there seem to tie in the with the error messages we're seeing too | 18:10 |
chrisccoulson | i'll revert that second one and try it again | 18:10 |
didrocks | chrisccoulson: oh nice you found it! | 18:10 |
didrocks | but I remember to be surprize to see it reverted already | 18:11 |
didrocks | and spent some time on it :) | 18:11 |
chrisccoulson | oh, i should check. i only looked at whats reverted in your patch | 18:11 |
didrocks | ahah! | 18:20 |
chrisccoulson | ok, building now. lets see what happens :) | 18:23 |
kklimonda | vala's gir support mostly experimental so I'm not surprised it's broken again ;) | 18:28 |
kklimonda | is* | 18:29 |
jono | pedro_, have you experience CD burning issues in brasero? | 18:32 |
jono | it just keeps ejecting the disc | 18:32 |
ari-tczew | kklimonda: hello! | 18:34 |
chrisccoulson | didrocks, ok, that works now :-) | 18:34 |
didrocks | chrisccoulson: great :) | 18:35 |
chrisccoulson | (well, it works for telepathy-glib, so i assume it fixes folks too) | 18:35 |
rickspencer3 | jono, audio disc? | 18:35 |
rickspencer3 | I can try to repro right now | 18:35 |
jono | riaudio | 18:35 |
jono | rickspencer3, ^ | 18:35 |
rickspencer3 | wtf is riaudio? | 18:36 |
kklimonda | ari-tczew: hey, sorry about gwget - I have a busy day out of nowhere, will push the patch in a moment. | 18:36 |
rickspencer3 | jono, create an audio project, you mean? | 18:36 |
chrisccoulson | didrocks, want to sponsor vala? (i don't think i can upload that) | 18:36 |
jono | rickspencer3, yep | 18:36 |
jono | I think it also happened when burning an ISO | 18:36 |
didrocks | chrisccoulson: can you try to rebuild unity as well before? | 18:37 |
chrisccoulson | didrocks, yeah, sure | 18:37 |
didrocks | chrisccoulson: or njpatel will certainly be sad otherwise :) | 18:37 |
ari-tczew | kklimonda: okok | 18:37 |
didrocks | thanks! | 18:37 |
rickspencer3 | jono, so, er, I'm not smart enough to figure out how to tell braesero to actually burn the disk | 18:43 |
rickspencer3 | I can make an image file, though | 18:43 |
jono | rickspencer3, add some tracks and there is a burn icon on the toolbar | 18:44 |
jono | so it seems k3b can burn a disc ok, so it is not a hardware thing | 18:44 |
rickspencer3 | no burn icon for me | 18:44 |
jono | weird, I am burning with K3B so I can't check right now | 18:45 |
rickspencer3 | maybe it doesn't work with mp3s | 18:45 |
jono | I also need to run and do my community Q+A in a sec | 18:45 |
jono | ooh good point | 18:45 |
jono | I will try it with oggs and see what happens | 18:45 |
kklimonda | ari-tczew: I have forwared it to both GNOME and Debian but don't expect it to get fixed at any point - upstream seems dead and so does debian ;) | 18:46 |
ari-tczew | kklimonda: yea, I know. Last year I've worked with upstream on gwget code and features. I did a migrate libglade -> gtkbuilder | 18:47 |
chrisccoulson | didrocks, ok, unity still builds too | 18:47 |
didrocks | chrisccoulson: great, do you have a .dsc file or debdiff handy? | 18:48 |
chrisccoulson | didrocks, i've pushed it to bzr | 18:50 |
* ari-tczew prefers use bzr to single patches | 18:51 | |
didrocks | chrisccoulson: great, got it | 18:51 |
chrisccoulson | cool, thanks | 18:51 |
rickspencer3 | jono, fwiw, braesero appears to be burning for me | 18:54 |
rickspencer3 | pedro_, ^ | 18:55 |
pedro_ | rickspencer3, jono sorry was having lunch | 18:56 |
pedro_ | jono, works fine here with Maverick, which version are you running there? | 18:57 |
pedro_ | jono, if you can reproduce the bug, may you run brasero as: brasero --brasero-burn-debug --brasero-media-debug &> brasero-debug.txt ; reproduce the issue and file a bug with that log? so we can follow up on it | 18:58 |
rickspencer3 | jono, pedro_ I can confirm that it worked for me | 19:00 |
rickspencer3 | but maybe braesero just like Jerry Garcia Band | 19:00 |
pedro_ | not every bug is reproducible, sometimes it depends on the codecs you have installed, hardware, etc | 19:01 |
* didrocks waves good evening | 19:04 | |
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GrueMaster | Has anyone seen this issue on x86? Bug 651391. | 19:50 |
ubot2 | Launchpad bug 651391 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) "Changing desktop font changed entire theme appearance in une-efl (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/651391 | 19:50 |
GrueMaster | I know une-efl is not supported in x86, just wondering if it affects desktop/unity. | 19:51 |
asac | anyone wants to take bug 647628 | 20:54 |
ubot2 | Launchpad bug 647628 in hildon-desktop (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 1 other project) "package hildon-desktop 1:2.0.11-1~svn15367-0ubuntu7 failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite '/etc/xdg/menus/applications.menu', which is also in package gnome-menus 2.30.3-0ubuntu2 (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/647628 | 20:54 |
asac | ? | 20:54 |
cyphermox | asac, I can, if you can sponsor after? | 21:23 |
asac | cyphermox: sure | 21:29 |
asac | cyphermox: see if you can find out why that happens now | 21:29 |
asac | wsa there a hildon-desktop update? | 21:30 |
asac | kenvandine: twitter in gwibber has probs with authentication? | 21:30 |
cyphermox | asac, last was a fix ten days ago | 21:31 |
kenvandine | asac, not that i know of | 21:32 |
kenvandine | asac, details? | 21:32 |
asac | kenvandine: well. i started gwibber after a few weeks and now the credentials dialog pops up | 21:32 |
asac | and i dont get twitter content etc. | 21:32 |
asac | e.g. account settings dialog | 21:33 |
kenvandine | so since the oauth conversion i guess? | 21:33 |
kenvandine | it should pop up if it fails to auth | 21:33 |
kenvandine | you need to authorize it | 21:34 |
asac | let me kill everything and see what happens then ... maybe its because i had an upgrade running | 21:34 |
asac | kenvandine: hmm | 21:35 |
asac | ps -eaf | grep gwibber | 21:35 |
asac | asac 6724 1 0 22:11 ? 00:00:00 /usr/bin/python /usr/bin/gwibber-error -m There was an keyring failure from UNKNOWN for account UNKNOWN, error was UNKNOWN -t Gwibber -c info -s UNKNOWN -u UNKNOWN -e keyring | 21:35 |
asac | asac 6732 6724 0 22:11 ? 00:00:01 /usr/bin/python /usr/bin/gwibber-accounts | 21:35 |
asac | ok /me kills all | 21:35 |
* asac starts from cmdline | 21:35 | |
kenvandine | but you can't see gwibber-accounts? | 21:35 |
asac | kenvandine: http://paste.ubuntu.com/502845/ | 21:36 |
asac | thats what i get when starting | 21:36 |
asac | doesnt look that good | 21:36 |
kenvandine | that is it starting gwibber-service | 21:37 |
asac | those errors are ok? | 21:37 |
kenvandine | yeah | 21:37 |
asac | i only see facebook and identica content | 21:37 |
kenvandine | we don't need it to start on all those interfaces, they are dependent on a single one | 21:38 |
kenvandine | yeah, so it prompted you to auth twitter, but apparently the window got lost? | 21:38 |
kenvandine | it won't nag you again for a bit... i think 5 minutes | 21:38 |
asac | no it didnt prompt me | 21:38 |
asac | it opened the account manager with twitter selected | 21:38 |
kenvandine | you had gwibber-accounts running in that ps | 21:38 |
kenvandine | right... that is how we prompt for now... which i know isn't great | 21:38 |
asac | after killing everything nothing happens. no error, no dialog, but still no twitter | 21:39 |
asac | ah ok | 21:39 |
kenvandine | yeah, it knows it popped up gwibber-accounts | 21:39 |
asac | so now the accounts stuff doesnt happen anymore | 21:39 |
kenvandine | and won't bother you for a l ittle bit | 21:39 |
kenvandine | so run gwibber-accounts manually | 21:39 |
kenvandine | and select twitter, and hit the auth button | 21:39 |
asac | kenvandine: can i just open the account setting dialog in the UI? | 21:39 |
kenvandine | we need a better way to handle that without adding a gtk dep the the service | 21:40 |
asac | oh | 21:40 |
kenvandine | yes | 21:40 |
asac | so now i see it | 21:40 |
asac | it never had focus on twitter, only identica | 21:40 |
asac | even though twitter was the problem i guess | 21:40 |
kenvandine | it should focus twitter | 21:40 |
kenvandine | well, when it popped up before | 21:40 |
asac | it definitly didnt ;) ... otherwise i would have seen the authorize button | 21:40 |
asac | ok anyway ... i authorized now | 21:41 |
asac | is there a way i can reproduce? | 21:41 |
asac | why did it start asking me at all? i used it before quite successfully | 21:41 |
asac | hah | 21:42 |
asac | so now i hit refresh ... and the accounts settings dialog came back | 21:42 |
asac | again with identica focussed, but twitter is highlighted somehow in slight red | 21:42 |
kenvandine | you got the web view thing for twitter right? | 21:42 |
asac | kenvandine: that web view thing worked and confirmed that all was fine | 21:42 |
asac | then i hit refresh and how i have the account setting dialog with identica selected and the twitter tab being red | 21:43 |
kenvandine | and now it popped up again? | 21:43 |
asac | yep | 21:43 |
kenvandine | humm | 21:43 |
asac | grrr ... alt+print doesnt do a screenshot anymore :((( | 21:43 |
kenvandine | look at the log | 21:43 |
asac | maverick ;) | 21:43 |
kenvandine | ~/.cache/gwibber/gwibber.log | 21:43 |
kenvandine | unity? | 21:43 |
asac | no ... its gnome | 21:43 |
kenvandine | oh, i thought that only broke in unity :) | 21:43 |
asac | i will relogin after getting the log | 21:43 |
asac | maybe it was fixed in the 700M of upgrades i got a few minutes ago | 21:44 |
kenvandine | hehe | 21:44 |
kenvandine | a little outdated? | 21:44 |
kenvandine | hehe | 21:44 |
asac | ok seems its keyring problem | 21:44 |
asac | let me restart the gnome session and see if twitter works | 21:44 |
asac | and clean the log etc. | 21:45 |
kenvandine | ok | 21:45 |
asac | bbib | 21:45 |
asac | ok ... now starting again ;) | 21:46 |
kenvandine | :) | 21:46 |
kenvandine | notifying users of errors and giving them ways to handle them is going to be something i want to spend time on for natty | 21:47 |
kenvandine | or someone needs to :) | 21:47 |
asac | kenvandine: ok so http://paste.ubuntu.com/502851/ thats the beginning ... no dialog etc. now manually authorizing, right? | 21:47 |
kenvandine | yeah... do that | 21:48 |
* asac opens account dialog | 21:48 | |
kenvandine | it must have failed to add them to the keyring last time | 21:48 |
asac | "asacasa has been authorized by Twitter" ;) | 21:49 |
kenvandine | :) | 21:49 |
asac | let me look at the log now | 21:49 |
asac | ok nothing new in there i seems | 21:49 |
asac | now lets hit refresh | 21:49 |
asac | err | 21:49 |
asac | do i need to hit the "save" button? | 21:49 |
kenvandine | yes... :) | 21:49 |
asac | really? | 21:49 |
kenvandine | yes... | 21:50 |
asac | thats insane | 21:50 |
kenvandine | i know | 21:50 |
asac | nobody would do that ;) | 21:50 |
asac | ok | 21:50 |
asac | lets see | 21:50 |
* asac hits save ... and now refresh | 21:50 | |
asac | hah. that worked | 21:50 |
asac | i dont knokw what to say ... but thats really a blocker imo ;) | 21:51 |
kenvandine | we now autosave prefs since we dropped couchdb | 21:51 |
asac | but well. the auth token should be saved automatically | 21:51 |
kenvandine | but that is part of the hoops we jump through to parse the result from webkit... it can be better | 21:51 |
asac | especially if the dialog tells you taht you authorized successfully | 21:51 |
kenvandine | agreed | 21:51 |
asac | anyway ... me stops complaining and moves to happy mode | 21:51 |
* asac tries alt+print | 21:51 | |
kenvandine | :) | 21:51 |
kenvandine | i know it needs to be improved | 21:52 |
asac | sure | 21:52 |
kenvandine | it will get attention when there is time :) | 21:52 |
* kenvandine is still grumbling about facebook... | 21:52 | |
asac | ok alt+print is definitly broken | 21:52 |
asac | maybe its because i have some unity bits installed somewhere | 21:52 |
* kenvandine hates supporting facebook more and more each day | 21:52 | |
asac | heh | 21:52 |
asac | is noone complaining about twitter setup ;)? | 21:52 |
kenvandine | i thought that was a unity thing... | 21:52 |
asac | just "print" works | 21:53 |
kenvandine | asac, actually no... | 21:53 |
asac | but alt+print doesnt | 21:53 |
asac | hmm. ok. then its just me not looking at dialogs ;) | 21:53 |
kenvandine | your the first person i have seen complain about that... the biggest complaint i hear daily is facebook allocation crap | 21:53 |
asac | right. maybe it means that facebook is more important nowadays ;) | 21:53 |
kenvandine | :/ | 21:54 |
asac | great... my tweets go to twitter again!!! | 21:54 |
asac | kenvandine: one more thing: gwibber could be less verbose about position on stdout ;) | 21:55 |
asac | Position: 0 | 21:55 |
asac | Position: 0 | 21:55 |
asac | ;) | 21:55 |
kenvandine | hehe | 21:55 |
asac | i get zillions of those when scrolling | 21:55 |
kenvandine | yeah... i don't want to touch that code | 21:55 |
asac | ok. so that output still has some value it seems ;) | 21:55 |
asac | even if it means that some side effect of it keeps things unbroke ;) | 21:56 |
kenvandine | yeah... tracking the position still worries me | 21:56 |
kenvandine | ryan's magic | 21:56 |
asac | what is position? | 21:56 |
asac | the bubble number displayed on top of window? | 21:56 |
asac | seems so | 21:56 |
kenvandine | yeah | 21:57 |
kenvandine | so it doesn't scroll to the top on refresh | 21:57 |
chrisccoulson | urgh, telepathy-glib is epic fail | 21:57 |
chrisccoulson | empathy doesn't start now :( | 21:57 |
asac | kenvandine: didnt i see screenshots with gwibber having separate columns for facebook/twitter/identica somewhere? | 21:57 |
kenvandine | yeah | 21:57 |
* asac looks in preferences | 21:57 | |
seb128 | chrisccoulson, how so? | 21:57 |
kenvandine | you can do that | 21:57 |
kenvandine | asac, add stream | 21:58 |
chrisccoulson | seb128 - it just seems to hang, and do nothing | 21:58 |
chrisccoulson | it doesn't even display a window | 21:58 |
kenvandine | new stream | 21:58 |
asac | kenvandine: cool ;) | 21:58 |
kenvandine | asac, ^^ | 21:58 |
asac | something worked ;) | 21:58 |
kenvandine | i call that the jono feature :) | 21:58 |
seb128 | chrisccoulson, it does that there as well without the telepathy-glib update but I didn't have time to investigate | 21:58 |
seb128 | I though it was due to my glib update | 21:58 |
asac | thanks a bunch | 21:58 |
seb128 | chrisccoulson, does it work if you downgrade telepathy-glib? | 21:59 |
* kenvandine needs to runout...bbl | 21:59 | |
kenvandine | np asac | 21:59 |
chrisccoulson | seb128 - oh, possibly. i've not restarted empathy for a while now, so it would still be using old libraries | 21:59 |
jono | kenvandine, jono feature? | 21:59 |
kenvandine | multi-column view | 21:59 |
jono | ahhh yeah | 21:59 |
kenvandine | in gwibber | 21:59 |
jono | :) | 21:59 |
kenvandine | :) | 21:59 |
* kenvandine jets | 21:59 | |
jono | :) | 21:59 |
cyphermox | asac, I see now, hildon-desktop was synced this cycle, afaict it shouldn't install applications.menu | 22:00 |
asac | seb128: ^^ thats bug 647628 | 22:00 |
ubot2 | Launchpad bug 647628 in hildon-desktop (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 1 other project) "package hildon-desktop 1:2.0.11-1~svn15367-0ubuntu7 failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite '/etc/xdg/menus/applications.menu', which is also in package gnome-menus 2.30.3-0ubuntu2 (affects: 4) (dups: 1) (heat: 18)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/647628 | 22:00 |
asac | what do you think? | 22:00 |
seb128 | is hildon still use anywhere? | 22:01 |
cyphermox | hehe | 22:01 |
asac | not sure ... http://popcon.ubuntu.com/ | 22:01 |
seb128 | it was a lpia early mobile thing | 22:02 |
asac | 19123 | 22:02 |
asac | i think its more important than other stuff in archive. i had it installed for whatever reason and bumped into that bug ;) | 22:02 |
asac | must have been a regression in last 20 days (thats when i last upgraded) | 22:02 |
seb128 | do you actually use it? | 22:03 |
asac | no. but the upgrade broke | 22:03 |
cyphermox | I think most people using it would have had gnome-menus as well anyway, judging from the two bug reports | 22:03 |
asac | i dont know why i have that | 22:03 |
asac | seb128: i think its still used by maemo | 22:04 |
chrisccoulson | seb128 - oh, it seems empathy is blocking on a response from something over dbus: http://paste.ubuntu.com/502864/ | 22:04 |
seb128 | asac, you worked on lpia or mobile stuff 2 years ago? | 22:04 |
seb128 | chrisccoulson, dconf issue? | 22:04 |
asac | yeah ... thats when i got that i guess | 22:04 |
asac | seb128: didrocks owned hildon. maybe ask him to remove the package or fix it ;) | 22:04 |
chrisccoulson | seb128 - possibly | 22:04 |
seb128 | chrisccoulson, I backported some changes for the gdbus api updates | 22:05 |
seb128 | but I guess we would have received other bugs by then if that was an issue for everybody | 22:05 |
seb128 | asac, let me check why it ships this .menu | 22:05 |
asac | actually i think didrocks did not own hildon, he rather almost owned it ... but thats good enough | 22:05 |
asac | to say he can say what to do ;) | 22:05 |
chrisccoulson | seb128 - it doesn't look like it's telepathy related though, so i think telepathy-glib is good to go, although it would be nice to test it | 22:06 |
chrisccoulson | ok, empathy has started now the call timed out :) | 22:06 |
seb128 | asac, we should put in on lool he's listed as debian comaintainer | 22:07 |
asac | lol | 22:07 |
seb128 | chrisccoulson, right but the buddy list is not responsive no? | 22:07 |
asac | lool: bug 647628 ;) | 22:07 |
ubot2 | Launchpad bug 647628 in hildon-desktop (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 1 other project) "package hildon-desktop 1:2.0.11-1~svn15367-0ubuntu7 failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite '/etc/xdg/menus/applications.menu', which is also in package gnome-menus 2.30.3-0ubuntu2 (affects: 4) (dups: 1) (heat: 18)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/647628 | 22:07 |
chrisccoulson | seb128 - yeah, just noticed that too | 22:07 |
asac | i wasnt the one filing this bug ;) | 22:07 |
asac | (just fyi) | 22:07 |
seb128 | chrisccoulson, I feel less alone now ;-) | 22:08 |
seb128 | chrisccoulson, I think it's a dconf issue | 22:08 |
asac | seb128: alt+print not working in gnome is a side effect of having some unity stuff installed? | 22:09 |
seb128 | asac, could be, I didn't notice but I can confirm there | 22:09 |
asac | no worries. just want to ensure that its known to work on "normal" installs | 22:11 |
seb128 | asac, | 22:11 |
seb128 | libhildondesktop/libhildonmenu.h:#define MENU_FILE "applications.menu" | 22:11 |
seb128 | I would say rename the file hildon-applications.menu | 22:12 |
seb128 | then update that define | 22:12 |
seb128 | ^whoever want to fix that one | 22:12 |
cyphermox | yeah | 22:12 |
seb128 | asac, no alt-print seems to no work on a normal install | 22:13 |
asac | seb128: why is gnome-menus using a not namespaced name? | 22:14 |
seb128 | chrisccoulson, nautilus-sendto has the same issue there | 22:14 |
asac | imo its a bug in both packages ;) | 22:14 |
chrisccoulson | seb128 - when did you last update your machine? | 22:14 |
asac | gnome-menus could also use gnome-applications.menu | 22:14 |
seb128 | chrisccoulson, lol, sort of a while ago | 22:14 |
chrisccoulson | seb128 - i just went to install some debugging symbols, and it pulled in lots of new packages | 22:14 |
chrisccoulson | and it's fixed now ;) | 22:14 |
seb128 | chrisccoulson, I manage to do only half the updates since I'm back | 22:14 |
seb128 | GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed | 22:15 |
chrisccoulson | yeah, i don't get that now either | 22:15 |
seb128 | I get those warnings and an hang in gdbus | 22:15 |
seb128 | well that's sort of what I though | 22:15 |
seb128 | it must be a missing update :p | 22:15 |
seb128 | I still have some 350 updates to do | 22:15 |
seb128 | 600meg to download after 2 weeks | 22:15 |
seb128 | it's crazy ;-) | 22:15 |
chrisccoulson | yeah, i've just pulled in a new dconf and glib. that goes to show how often i update this laptop ;) | 22:16 |
chrisccoulson | hmmm, i'm a bit confused about that | 22:16 |
chrisccoulson | i updated glib the other night when i did glibmm | 22:17 |
chrisccoulson | ah | 22:17 |
chrisccoulson | that was just a local build :) | 22:17 |
chrisccoulson | so i'm still running the same version really | 22:17 |
seb128 | I bet it's d-conf | 22:17 |
seb128 | the new version had the gdbus api change update | 22:17 |
seb128 | I've the old version on that box | 22:17 |
chrisccoulson | ok, telepathy-glib is uploaded | 22:19 |
seb128 | great | 22:19 |
seb128 | so what was the issue? | 22:19 |
chrisccoulson | seb128 - one of the commits porting vala to use the new gir version had only been partially reverted | 22:19 |
seb128 | chrisccoulson, updating libdconf0 fixed the hang there as well | 22:20 |
asac | hmm. seems that alt-print key is not even propagated | 22:20 |
chrisccoulson | nice! | 22:20 |
seb128 | chrisccoulson, oh ok so it was vala | 22:20 |
chrisccoulson | asac - that's because it's sysrq ;) | 22:20 |
asac | i cannot change it back to alt-print in keyboard shortcuts | 22:20 |
asac | chrisccoulson: huh? | 22:20 |
seb128 | chrisccoulson, but it used to work? | 22:20 |
asac | it worked since beginning of universe ;) | 22:20 |
seb128 | it has always been the shortcut to take a screenshot of whatever dialog has the focus | 22:21 |
asac | right | 22:21 |
asac | now i have it set to alt-scrolllock ;) | 22:21 |
asac | chrisccoulson: what and who touched that? | 22:21 |
chrisccoulson | asac - i'm not sure. 1 second, i'll try and find the bug | 22:21 |
asac | thats really important bug imo ... if something that basic stops working we have a problem ;) | 22:22 |
asac | thanks for finding the bug ;) | 22:22 |
chrisccoulson | my inbox is such a mess. i really need to just CTRL+A and then DEL :) | 22:22 |
asac | dont read it ;) | 22:22 |
seb128 | you should filter bugs | 22:22 |
seb128 | I marked my bugmails as read when I came back this week | 22:23 |
seb128 | I figured that if somebody needed me or a bug was annoying it would come back in some way | 22:23 |
seb128 | seems to work so far nobody complained ;-) | 22:23 |
chrisccoulson | yeah, i think i might do that ;) | 22:23 |
chrisccoulson | asac - bug 642792 | 22:23 |
ubot2 | Launchpad bug 642792 in metacity (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "ALT+PrtSc not recognised (affects: 5) (dups: 1) (heat: 28)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/642792 | 22:23 |
asac | i am using compiz | 22:24 |
chrisccoulson | asac - it gets the preference from the same place AFAICT | 22:24 |
chrisccoulson | the preference is shipped by metacity, but i think compiz uses the same thing | 22:25 |
chrisccoulson | hmmm, bug 651523 is weird | 22:25 |
ubot2 | Launchpad bug 651523 in xulrunner-1.9.2 (Ubuntu) "package xulrunner-1.9.2 1.9.2.10 build1 nobinonly-0ubuntu0.10.04.1 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 127 (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/651523 | 22:25 |
chrisccoulson | /usr/lib/xulrunner-1.9.2.10/xulrunner-bin: error while loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/xulrunner-1.9.2.10/libmozjs.so: invalid ELF header | 22:26 |
micahg | :(, running i386 on amd64 or vice versa? | 22:26 |
chrisccoulson | micahg - that's what i though, but it usually gives a different error for that i think | 22:27 |
cyphermox | seb128, asac, https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~mathieu-tl/ubuntu/maverick/hildon-desktop/lp647628/+merge/37070 | 22:28 |
chrisccoulson | "wrong ELF class" is what you'd expect to see | 22:28 |
cyphermox | fail, I spammed the merge request :/ | 22:28 |
seb128 | cyphermox, did you build test that? | 22:30 |
cyphermox | right, I really fail | 22:30 |
seb128 | cyphermox, I didn't but I would not be surprised if it was installing both names | 22:30 |
seb128 | the upstream one in the upstream make install and the debian one in the rules | 22:30 |
cyphermox | seb128, I'll check | 22:31 |
seb128 | cyphermox, in fact maybe not it seems the upstream one is no .install | 22:32 |
cyphermox | seb128, either way, I should have tested the build before filing the merge request | 22:32 |
cyphermox | I'm doing that now :) | 22:32 |
chrisccoulson | hmmm, my laptop seems to get slower and slower every day | 22:36 |
chrisccoulson | or i get more impatient | 22:36 |
chrisccoulson | oh, using 3GB of swap probably doesn't help | 22:36 |
cyphermox | brb | 22:37 |
chrisccoulson | brb too, time for a reboot | 22:37 |
seb128 | chrisccoulson, not sure why but my box get slower over time | 22:38 |
seb128 | like I can't build gtk and glib without real slowdown | 22:38 |
seb128 | it used to be ok in lucid but in maverick it start being slower during the build | 22:39 |
chrisccoulson | yeah, mines been particularly bad the last few days | 22:39 |
seb128 | to a point where scrolling on screen is lagging | 22:39 |
chrisccoulson | it takes me 2.5 hours to build firefox now, and i can't use my laptop at all for that time | 22:39 |
chrisccoulson | the cursor just freezes on screen for minutes at a time | 22:39 |
micahg | chrisccoulson: :(, is that for 4? | 22:40 |
chrisccoulson | micahg - yeah, it's got terribly slow on my laptop in recent days | 22:40 |
chrisccoulson | but i don't think that's a ff issue ;) | 22:40 |
micahg | chrisccoulson: it's must be the test suite | 22:40 |
chrisccoulson | that time is without even running that ;) | 22:41 |
asac | chrisccoulson: do you see the same slow down in build time in dailies? | 22:43 |
chrisccoulson | asac - it's dailies that i build, but the build times seem ok in the PPA | 22:44 |
chrisccoulson | its just my machine ;) | 22:44 |
asac | dying disk? | 22:44 |
asac | too many builds ;) | 22:44 |
chrisccoulson | i think it's just a case of the disk being really slow, and the fact that i'm always using swap | 22:44 |
asac | why is it always using swap? | 22:45 |
asac | are you doing parallel builds now in the package? | 22:45 |
asac | like -j$(CPUCOUNT)+1? | 22:45 |
chrisccoulson | i'm not sure why it's using so much swap :/ | 22:45 |
chrisccoulson | asac - we aren't doing any parallel builds. not sure my machine would cope with that ;) | 22:45 |
asac | chrisccoulson: i doubt it ;) ... how much mem? | 22:46 |
asac | 2G? | 22:46 |
asac | amd64? | 22:46 |
chrisccoulson | yeah, and that's going to be even more inadequate when i try and do a PGO build at the end of the week ;) | 22:46 |
chrisccoulson | i think i might have to try and do it overnight when i'm not using it | 22:46 |
asac | 2G with amd64 is not enough for firefox anyway | 22:46 |
chrisccoulson | yeah, perhaps i should get some more | 22:47 |
asac | you needed 4G on 64-bit in the past ... use 32-bit ;) | 22:47 |
asac | and i guess ffox4 has probably even bigger link jobs | 22:47 |
cyphermox | seb128, hildon-desktop looks good at first glance but I'm missing a lot of stuff it seems for it to do anything useful (e.g. applications or settings). at least strace agrees it looks for ~/.osso/hildon-applications.menu now | 22:47 |
chrisccoulson | i keep wondering whether it would just be better to get a separate box for doing builds on | 22:47 |
chrisccoulson | anyway, brb, going to reboot now all my applications have finally closed | 22:48 |
seb128 | cyphermox, hum, maybe asac can confirm it was working better before | 22:50 |
seb128 | it was probably not | 22:50 |
seb128 | asac, ^ can you sponsor https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~mathieu-tl/ubuntu/maverick/hildon-desktop/lp647628/+merge/37070 if you are happy with the update? | 22:50 |
seb128 | the change seems fine to me but I've never used hildon | 22:51 |
chrisccoulson | hmmm, wasn't there a recent change to make the inactive windows title bars completely opaque? | 22:53 |
chrisccoulson | oh | 22:53 |
seb128 | I though | 22:53 |
seb128 | the focussed one seems ok, the other one are weird there | 22:54 |
chrisccoulson | looks like i need this update: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/1:0.8.6-0ubuntu9 | 22:54 |
chrisccoulson | :) | 22:54 |
seb128 | lol | 22:54 |
seb128 | same here I guess ;-) | 22:54 |
chrisccoulson | right, it's time for me to just update everything | 22:54 |
seb128_ | right, same here, but that will be tomorrow, enough work for today | 22:55 |
seb128_ | 'night everybody | 22:55 |
asac | is the policy to keep those changes at UNRELEASED? | 22:56 |
seb128_ | asac, those? | 22:56 |
asac | https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~mathieu-tl/ubuntu/maverick/hildon-desktop/lp647628/+merge/37070 | 22:56 |
seb128_ | usually whoever upload do a dch -r before | 22:56 |
asac | that would change the changelog author, not? | 22:56 |
asac | e.g. and move the sponsoree to a [ .. ] tag | 22:57 |
seb128_ | dch -r -t? | 22:57 |
chrisccoulson | asac - so, i'm going to hopefully try doing a profile guided build of firefox this weekend :) | 22:57 |
chrisccoulson | i need to build gcc-4.5 before then though | 22:57 |
asac | hmm. another bug ;) | 22:57 |
chrisccoulson | heh ;) | 22:58 |
chrisccoulson | i need this change in: http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=45623 | 22:58 |
asac | a few days ago i started to get asked for my ssh key in a dialog | 22:58 |
ubot2 | gcc.gnu.org bug 45623 in tree-optimization "[4.5 Regression] GCC 4.5.[01] breaks our ffi on Linux64. ABI break?" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] | 22:58 |
asac | err ssh passphrase | 22:58 |
asac | i never had to do that :/ | 22:58 |
asac | keyring bustage? | 22:58 |
seb128_ | asac, there is a dch option to no modify the infos in the changelog | 22:58 |
kklimonda | seb128_: hmm, man dch states that -t doesn't work with -r | 22:58 |
chrisccoulson | asac - oh, i see that too | 22:58 |
seb128_ | kklimonda, try -m then ;-) | 22:58 |
seb128_ | with -r | 22:58 |
chrisccoulson | but, it could be that i haven't updated in ages | 22:58 |
kklimonda | seb128_: :* | 22:58 |
asac | chrisccoulson: noone cares? ;) | 22:58 |
asac | :( | 22:58 |
seb128_ | bye | 22:58 |
kklimonda | seb128_: I was looking just for that two days ago, thanks | 22:59 |
kklimonda | ah | 22:59 |
cyphermox | gotta go now -- planned dinner | 23:00 |
chrisccoulson | 'night cyphermox | 23:01 |
cyphermox | 'night chrisccoulson | 23:01 |
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