[09:02] <ev> shtylman_: what's wrong with those?
[09:03] <ev> highvoltage: you can make it point to whatever you want by changing /.disk/release_notes_url
[09:12] <ev> NCommander: you're better off removing ubiquity rather than the oem-config package as that will pick up oem-config-${frontend} as well.
[09:13] <NCommander> ev: er, I don't think I wantto remove ubiquity in casper from a live image :-)
[09:13]  * ogra would just remove the diversion :)
[09:13]  * NCommander whacks ogra 
[09:13] <ogra> heh
[09:14] <ev> ah, I seem to have missed the intent of this
[09:14] <ev> reading comments, ftw
[09:15] <NCommander> ogra: if [ `uname -m | grep arm` ]; then exit 0
[09:15] <NCommander> fi
[09:15] <NCommander> that's not crack is it?
[09:15] <ev> looks okay to me, though given the point in the release cycle you might want to get at least one more pair of eyes on that
[09:15] <ogra> a bit broad ... butu will work
[09:16] <ogra> *but
[09:16] <NCommander> ogra: its going to die as soon as natty opens
[09:16] <ogra> yes, since dove is gonna die :)
[10:03] <cjwatson> please don't use that form
[10:03] <cjwatson> 'if uname -m | grep -q arm; then ...'
[10:04] <ogra> oh, yeah ... no subshell
[10:04] <cjwatson> (or 'if [ "$(uname -m | grep arm)" ]; then ...' - quoting matters - but it's a useless use of test)
[11:04] <ara> ev, morning!
[11:04] <ev> hiya
[11:05] <ara> ev, is it normal that ubuntu dvd is installing all the lang packs and then uninstall those that don't apply?
[11:07] <ev> yes
[11:07] <ev> what it's doing is copying all the files from a read-only copy of the live CD filesystem, which includes all the langpacks
[11:07] <ev> then it removes the ones it doesn't need at the end
[11:08] <ev> now, it has a bit of smarts to know it's going to remove certain files that it is about to copy, and thus doesn't copy them
[11:08] <ara> ev, isn't there a way to avoid that? at least for lang packs
[11:08] <ara> for cd is OK, there are not many, but the dvd....
[11:08] <ev> ara: the above mentioned speed up should mostly take care of it
[11:09] <ev> it wont really be copying any files for the langpack packages it ultimately removes
[11:10] <ara> ev, from the logs it seems that it did copy them
[11:10] <ev> ara: it will say it did, but it's not actually doing it
[11:11] <ev> if you want to see for yourself, put the installer in debug mode and run through it
[11:11] <ev> that should spit out a bunch of "blacklisting:" messages in /var/log/installer/debug
[11:11] <ev> for all the files it's skipping
[11:12] <ara> ev, OK, thanks a lot! (and sorry for being skeptical ;-) )
[11:12] <ev> no worries at all
[11:21] <CIA-28> base-installer: cjwatson * r405 ubuntu/debian/ (base-installer.templates bootstrap-base.templates changelog): merge lp:~cody-somerville/base-installer/fix-final_apt_preferences-waypoint-failure-with-live-installer
[11:23] <CIA-28> base-installer: cjwatson * r406 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.107ubuntu3
[11:52] <mR0_> how to install nvidia manualy?
[12:23] <highvoltage> ev: thanks!
[14:09] <davmor2> ev: the installer on netbook just goes off the bottom of the screen.   Also if you click on the arrow to see the details they are all off the screen with no obvious way to read them :(
[14:10] <ev> Goes off the screen on what page?
[14:11] <ev> I realised this morning that I should've put a check for enough free vertical space around the code that constructs the expander
[14:11] <ev> A bit too late for that now though
[14:13] <davmor2> ev: from the first page that displays the progress bar it only displays about 2/3's of the bar
[14:13] <ev> What's the screen resolution on this netbook?
[14:19] <Riddell> ev: after OEM install and setup I still have ubiquity installed, isn't it ment to be removed?
[14:23] <Riddell> bug 651086
[14:23] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 651086 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Install icons stays in netbook favourites after OEM install (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/651086
[14:27] <ev> Riddell:about to be in a meeting. I suspect the work superm1 did to refine the removal process failed to cover kde. I'll have a look when I get out though.
[14:28] <ev> I could be quite wrong
[14:49] <shtylman_> ev: they look like death
[15:30] <superm1> ev, Riddell it should still be removed using the same method as lucid did on the kde frontend
[15:31] <superm1> only difference for kde frontend for maverick will be that DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS is getting unset due to it crashing debconf when running and the locale is set this time around during the removal
[15:31] <superm1> if it's not getting removed, run oem-config in mode and get some logs filed
[16:24] <Riddell> superm1: ok I'll do that in a bit
[17:03]  * ev 's brain is mush today.  Having a very hard time following the intent along the path of grub_default().
[17:39] <ev> cjwatson, superm1: does this make sense to you (with the code move to make the flow a bit more clear): http://paste.ubuntu.com/502719/
[17:39] <ev> mind you, I don't know if that actually fixes anything
[17:40] <ev> but in investigating bug 630529 I noticed it was comparing files that could very well be a by-whatever symlink and a device node
[17:40] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 630529 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Installing from USB drive writes boot sector to USB not HDD (affects: 1) (heat: 192)" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/630529
[17:47] <ev> flow> I found it confusing that it went through all that work, only to say "nah, lets do things this way instead" right at the end of the function
[17:52] <superm1> moving that bootremovable bit makes sense to me
[17:57] <superm1> that test for os.path.samefile won't be too happy though if target is something like '(hd0)'
[19:12] <superm1> ev, i noticed the ubuntu font made it into main and on disks for today, do you know if the intention is actually to switch to it by default still(for UI and installer and what not)?  i'm just a little worried that some of the text on my plugins won't fit right, and don't want to run into the same thing as last release having to fix stuff very last minute