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| jjohansen | running errands, back on later | 00:20 |
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| === bjf changed the topic of #ubuntu-kernel to: Home: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/ || Maverick Kernel Version: 2.6.35 || Ubuntu Kernel Team Meeting - October-5 - 17:00 UTC || If you have a question just ask, and do wait around for an answer! | ||
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| avinashhm | hi, is there any runtime way to find a physical addr corresponds to which virtual add,.... i mean ,any sysfs entry or something like that | 07:25 |
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| * smb yawns | 08:26 | |
| jj-afk | morning smb | 08:28 |
| smb | good night jj-afk :) | 08:28 |
| jj-afk | :) | 08:28 |
| smb | Morning cking. A little question to start the morning. Not really important but I wonder whether the new installer dialog for Ubuntu still offers some place to add a caching proxy. Not sure whether i just missed it but cannot remember to have seen it in Kubuntu or Ubuntu alternate install... | 09:06 |
| cking | smb, hrm, the installer has been simplified, and I did not see that option either | 09:08 |
| smb | I guess its the least of a common users problem... | 09:08 |
| * cking wonders if it's available on the alternate installer | 09:13 | |
| * smb did not see it | 09:13 | |
| smb | Nice, radeon-kms on my external monitor does not give me headaches in Maverick (ignoring the purpely background). One would hope this would be a simple change to be SRUed into Lucid... | 09:35 |
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| Kano | hi, when will rc6 be ready? | 10:33 |
| Kano | also how about a special branch with aufs patch? | 10:33 |
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| apw | Kano, as always a couple of hours, its in the queue | 10:39 |
| apw | Kano, so far there is no aufs2 for 2.6.36 based kernels | 10:39 |
| Kano | would be better when it would be mainline... | 10:40 |
| apw | its unlikely to be mainline ... it was rejected and the author and upstream not keen on compromise | 10:40 |
| Kano | and anything similar | 10:41 |
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| Kano | apw: is 35.7 in the queue too | 12:00 |
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| ara | JFo, morning mate | 12:10 |
| ara | JFo, do you have a minute? | 12:10 |
| diwic | every now and then, I bump into a problem where I find things like this in dmesg: "disagrees about version of symbol snd_ctl_add" | 12:17 |
| diwic | How do you trace such problems down? | 12:18 |
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| JFo | ara, I do | 13:14 |
| JFo | provided you still need me | 13:14 |
| JFo | :) | 13:14 |
| ara | JFo, yes, I need | 13:56 |
| ara | you | 13:57 |
| JFo | I feel needed | 13:57 |
| JFo | :) | 13:57 |
| ara | JFo, davmor2 found a bug today with the Broadcom STA driver | 13:57 |
| ara | bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/649357 | 13:57 |
| JFo | ok | 13:57 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 649357 in network-manager (Ubuntu) "network-manager on une will not connect (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] | 13:57 |
| * JFo opens the bug | 13:57 | |
| ara | can you have a quick look to see if it could be a regression-potential on the kernel? | 13:57 |
| * smb wonders. Wasn't sta == bcmwl | 13:58 | |
| ara | he's happy to add any other information you may need | 13:58 |
| JFo | ara, can do :) | 13:58 |
| * tgardner wonders. wasn't bcmwl an OEM problem? | 13:58 | |
| smb | Well at least it might be a jockey problem | 13:58 |
| smb | I remember that you need to blacklist ssb and b44 to allow bcmwl to load | 13:59 |
| Kano | do you use 5.60.48.36? | 13:59 |
| JFo | Kano, I'm not sure what that number is in ref to? | 14:00 |
| JFo | smb, who do you think is appropriate to look at that bug? | 14:00 |
| Kano | well if you dont use the ubuntu package | 14:00 |
| JFo | someone who works on Jockey? | 14:00 |
| Kano | http://kanotix.com/files/fix/dkms/broadcom-wl-dkms.sh | 14:00 |
| Kano | that script installs it too | 14:00 |
| * smb would volunteer tgardner but that may retaliate to himself... | 14:01 | |
| Kano | with dkms support and correct blacklisting | 14:01 |
| JFo | smb, heh | 14:01 |
| JFo | Kano, ah, now I see :) | 14:01 |
| Kano | but you may NOT use the default ubuntu package for it then | 14:02 |
| smb | JFo, I think first step would be whether it is a module load problem or something else | 14:02 |
| JFo | right | 14:02 |
| smb | JFo, And no I have not looked at the bug. :-P | 14:02 |
| JFo | heh | 14:02 |
| smb | JFo, Looking at it that is at least not the driver | 14:03 |
| JFo | ok | 14:03 |
| smb | As it seems to work when running normal destktop | 14:03 |
| JFo | yes | 14:03 |
| smb | JFo, Maybe asac can make a guess here | 14:05 |
| JFo | cool | 14:09 |
| JFo | I've asked him to take a look in #u-devel | 14:10 |
| JFo | odd bug 642792 | 14:27 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 642792 in linux (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "ALT+PrtSc not recognised (affects: 4) (dups: 1) (heat: 412)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/642792 | 14:27 |
| JFo | from comments "ALT+PrtSc+H I get the magic SysRq key help, so it looks like the kernel is trapping ALT+PrtSc." | 14:28 |
| JFo | wonder how that regression could happen | 14:28 |
| smb | JFo, That the kernel looks for that has always been the case | 14:28 |
| smb | It just was intercepted when running X to do a print screen | 14:29 |
| JFo | but it doesn't looks to be doing anything with it | 14:29 |
| JFo | ah | 14:29 |
| smb | JFo, The thing is that most keyboards have alt+ptrscr == sysreq | 14:29 |
| JFo | I see | 14:30 |
| JFo | and in this case it may not be? | 14:30 |
| JFo | or? | 14:30 |
| popey | my keyboard does indeed have alt+ptrscr == sysreq | 14:30 |
| JFo | hmm | 14:31 |
| smb | Or whatever used to intercept the keypress of alt+ptrscr before does not work for some reason | 14:31 |
| JFo | interesting | 14:31 |
| JFo | there are several bugs on this | 14:31 |
| JFo | wonder what could have changed | 14:32 |
| JFo | maybe X? | 14:32 |
| smb | JFo, Maybe loking at keyboard shortcuts helps | 14:32 |
| JFo | hmmm, my kbd uses Fn+PrtScrn for SysRq | 14:33 |
| smb | JFo, Funny, in Lucid even removing the shortcuts for PrtScr and alt+PrtScr does not stop gnome from doing it. Bah | 14:34 |
| JFo | heh | 14:35 |
| JFo | interesting way to discover the close channel key combo | 14:41 |
| JFo | smb, cyphermox is looking into the STA driver bug from earlier. | 14:41 |
| smb | Heh, something like please press ctrl-alt-del to continue in earlier days? :) | 14:42 |
| smb | JFo, Yeah saw that | 14:42 |
| JFo | not sure what it was. I was typing to you about the bug and apparently hit the right rune for it to close just this channel :) | 14:42 |
| * smb thinks of ctrl+w | 14:44 | |
| ogasawara | JFo: I was actually looking at that bug 642792 yesterday | 15:56 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 642792 in linux (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "ALT+PrtSc not recognised (affects: 4) (dups: 1) (heat: 412)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/642792 | 15:56 |
| JFo | ah :) | 15:57 |
| JFo | what do you think ogasawara? | 15:57 |
| JFo | look like something up the stack broken? | 15:57 |
| ogasawara | JFo: from what I can gather, it's expected behavior because sysrq handling is enabled by default in the kernel thus Alt+PrintScreen is interpreted as SysRq | 15:57 |
| JFo | ok | 15:57 |
| JFo | so no bug | 15:58 |
| JFo | cool | 15:58 |
| ogasawara | JFo: If we don't want that enabled by default, we should set "kernel.sysrq = 0" in /etc/sysctl.conf | 15:58 |
| JFo | want me to convey that to reporters? | 15:58 |
| ogasawara | JFo: I was going to write up a comment this morning to the bug, just haven't gotten to it yet | 15:58 |
| JFo | ok cool | 15:58 |
| JFo | if you like | 15:58 |
| ogasawara | popey: ^^ | 15:58 |
| smb | ogasawara, The interesting part is that in Lucid the printscreen from gnome is chinming in even with it enabled | 15:58 |
| JFo | I will mimic you to the other bugs I find | 15:58 |
| popey | \o/ | 15:59 |
| ogasawara | smb: I'm wondering if that's actually a bug in Lucid that it is capturing a screenshot when sysrq handling is enabled | 15:59 |
| popey | I am struggling to see how this isn't a regression bug. this has worked for years. | 16:00 |
| popey | and in system -> preferences -> keyboard shortcuts, it does indeed recognise ALT+PrScr in <Lucid. | 16:00 |
| ogasawara | popey: indeed, it's still expected behavior that Alt+PrintScreen will take a screenshot of the currently selected window by default | 16:00 |
| popey | well, <= Lucid. | 16:00 |
| popey | ok | 16:01 |
| smb | ogasawara, Initially I thought it would be ok when the shortcuts define this combination to be screenshot. The slightly annoying part is that i removed that definitions through the dialog and it still happens | 16:01 |
| ogasawara | popey: which is why I'd think we should disable SysRq handling by default to restore original behavior | 16:01 |
| popey | disabling via kernel.sysrq has the byproduct that the keyboard shortcut dialog doesn't say "Alt+PrSc" when you are defining the key, but "Alt+SysRq" | 16:02 |
| popey | which is odd | 16:02 |
| popey | http://launchpadlibrarian.net/55967124/Screenshot-Keyboard%20Shortcuts.png | 16:02 |
| popey | IIRC under Lucid it says Alt+Print, but I dont have any Lucid boxen to test on right this moment | 16:02 |
| smb | ogasawara, In Lucid it depends whether you are on the console or not. In X -> screenshot. On the console (text) the sysrq keys are active | 16:03 |
| smb | popey, It does (or did) | 16:03 |
| smb | ogasawara, Or in theory they are probably active both, but by the time you get to press something like alt+prtscr+s, you have several screenshot windows in your face | 16:05 |
| ogasawara | smb: was gonna ask if you still get screenshots even after pressing a key in combination with alt+prtscr, so it sounds like you do | 16:06 |
| smb | Let me try whether it does actually do it beside the many screenshots | 16:07 |
| smb | ogasawara, confirmed. It does both | 16:07 |
| ogasawara | smb: so that just seems odd and annoying to me | 16:08 |
| smb | ogasawara, So the bug that alt-prtscr does not do a screenshot is just that gnome does not do it. The kernel behaves as before. Well seems some feature compability with the other os. With keyboards having sysrq on fn+something it might be less confusing | 16:09 |
| smb | as long as something is not prtscr, that is | 16:10 |
| popey | thanks for looking at the bug ogasawara / JFo | 16:11 |
| popey | (and smb) :D | 16:11 |
| JFo | no sweat popey | 16:12 |
| JFo | I think we had actually discussed the issue briefly before but got pulled into other things | 16:12 |
| hackeron | JFo: any luck? :) | 16:15 |
| JFo | hackeron, sadly no | 16:16 |
| JFo | smb, are you familiar with linux-crashdump? | 16:16 |
| smb | JFo, no, not really | 16:16 |
| JFo | me either | 16:17 |
| JFo | hackeron is having issues getting it to work | 16:17 |
| JFo | and I am not familiar enough to help | 16:17 |
| JFo | odd bug 647043 | 16:17 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 647043 in linux (Ubuntu) "Unable to detect USB ports (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/647043 | 16:17 |
| JFo | 2 USB issues in the same week | 16:17 |
| hackeron | JFo: did it not store the panic in /var/crash for you either? | 16:17 |
| JFo | hackeron, I never got round to changing that setting jj showed us yesterday | 16:18 |
| JFo | will try it now | 16:18 |
| hackeron | thanks :) - just to make sure it's not just my system | 16:19 |
| JFo | no sweat | 16:20 |
| JFo | looks like it is working for me hackeron | 16:21 |
| JFo | I have 2 crashes in there now | 16:21 |
| hackeron | hmmm, is that with the setting jj showed yesterday or without? | 16:21 |
| hackeron | I have crashes there, just nothing related to linux-image | 16:21 |
| JFo | without | 16:21 |
| JFo | hmmm | 16:21 |
| JFo | one sec | 16:21 |
| hackeron | I have _usr_bin_landscape-sysinfo.0.crash - which is not to do with the kernel | 16:22 |
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| ogasawara | vanhoof: bug 644237, did you have access to hw that could reproduce that warning? | 18:06 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 644237 in linux (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "WARNING: at /build/buildd/linux-2.6.35/arch/x86/include/asm/processor.h:1005 read_measured_perf_ctrs+0x78/0x90() (dup-of: 615153)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/644237 | 18:06 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 615153 in linux (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "WARNING: at /build/buildd/linux-maverick-2.6.35/arch/x86/include/asm/processor.h:1005 read_measured_perf_ctrs+0x6c/0x80() (affects: 29) (dups: 33) (heat: 276)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/615153 | 18:06 |
| vanhoof | ogasawara: i do | 18:06 |
| vanhoof | ogasawara: Sarvatt has one in hand as well | 18:06 |
| Sarvatt | yeah | 18:06 |
| ogasawara | vanhoof, Sarvatt: cool, seems like there might be a patch upstream. If I build you a test kernel with it applied, could you do some quick testing for me? | 18:07 |
| Sarvatt | yep! thanks for that ogasawara | 18:07 |
| jjohansen | ogasawara: do you remember if we opened a bug for the AA 0 day | 18:45 |
| ogasawara | jjohansen: yah, I added it to bug 647071 (see bottom of bug description) | 18:45 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 647071 in linux (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 1 other project) "0-day Maverick Kernel Upload (affects: 1) (heat: 12)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/647071 | 18:45 |
| jjohansen | ogasawara: thanks, I got the okay from jdstrand so I will post it to the list now | 18:46 |
| ogasawara | jjohansen: cool, thanks | 18:46 |
| jdstrand | yep, works great :) | 18:46 |
| jjohansen | ogasawara: should I open a separate bug as well? | 18:47 |
| ogasawara | jjohansen: nah, I'd just use 647071 | 18:47 |
| jjohansen | okay | 18:47 |
| ogasawara | Sarvatt: when you time to get a chance to test - http://people.canonical.com/~ogasawara/lp644237/amd64/ | 18:53 |
| JFo | ogasawara, she has sent the dmesg for that USB bug | 18:53 |
| ogasawara | JFo: hrm, it's not showing that any device was even detected. don't suppose she could boot a Lucid LiveCD and confirm that the port isn't dead and attach dmesg from the working scenario. | 18:58 |
| JFo | k, will ask | 18:58 |
| ogasawara | JFo: is she in Millbank? | 19:00 |
| JFo | dunno | 19:00 |
| JFo | asking | 19:00 |
| ogasawara | JFo: as we'll have actual bodies in Millbank next week | 19:00 |
| JFo | yep | 19:01 |
| JFo | was thinking the same | 19:01 |
| JFo | she lives in CT | 19:01 |
| JFo | :-/ | 19:01 |
| ogasawara | JFo: also just curious if she plugs the devices prior to booting are they then detected? | 19:07 |
| JFo | she is going to test that | 19:07 |
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| JFo | she's also going to test the windows she has installed dual-boot | 19:10 |
| JFo | see if it works there | 19:10 |
| JFo | ogasawara, windows has no issues with the USB | 19:12 |
| JFo | they work there | 19:12 |
| JFo | ogasawara, | 19:53 |
| JFo | <lisas> BusyBox v1.15.3 (Ubuntu 1:1.15.3-1ubuntu4) built in shell (ash) | 19:53 |
| JFo | <lisas> Enter 'help' for a list oof built-in commands | 19:53 |
| JFo | <lisas> (initramfs) Unable to find a medium containing a live file system | 19:53 |
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| JFo | <lisas> jfo ^^^ this is what is showing on my screen now when trying to boot from USB | 19:53 |
| ogasawara | JFo: that's for Lucid? | 19:55 |
| ogasawara | JFo: or for Maverick? | 19:55 |
| ogasawara | JFo: I'd expect Lucid to work, Maverick not so much | 19:57 |
| ogasawara | JFo: I basically want to be able to compare the dmesg's from a working Lucid and a broken Maverick | 19:58 |
| JFo | Maverick | 19:58 |
| ogasawara | JFo: ok, so that seems expected | 19:59 |
| JFo | yeah, I have asked for Lucid | 19:59 |
| JFo | she'll have to d/l it | 19:59 |
| ogasawara | JFo: she's got some error messages in her Maverick dmesg with respect to usb that look suspect | 19:59 |
| JFo | ok | 19:59 |
| ogasawara | JFo: if you could walk her through testing the latest 2.6.36-rc6 mainline kernel too that'd be good | 20:00 |
| JFo | yeah, I asked her about that initially | 20:00 |
| scrllock | hmm, looks like xm shutdown times out with -rc6 as well | 20:07 |
| JFo | hackeron, I have yet to get my kernel to fail :-/ | 20:09 |
| JFo | I suppose I should be happy | 20:10 |
| * ogasawara lunch | 20:49 | |
| vanhoof | JFo: you want to panic your box? :) | 21:45 |
| tgardner | ogasawara, you doing anything on tangerine? I need to rebuild the maverick chroots | 21:52 |
| ogasawara | tgardner: go ahead, I'm inbetween test builds | 21:53 |
| tgardner | ogasawara, bouncing | 21:53 |
| JFo | ogasawara, her last to me today was that Lucid appeared to work fine on the LiveISO | 22:43 |
| ogasawara | JFo: ok thanks, will look at the logs in a bit | 22:44 |
| JFo | I'm fighting a massive headache, so I think I am going to call it for today. May check back in later | 22:44 |
| JFo | thanks ogasawara :) | 22:44 |
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