[00:23] <Takeasy> er....i want to re-install xubuntu, how to do?
[00:50] <Sysi> !instalation
[00:50] <Sysi> !installation
[00:51] <Sysi> like normally, but you propably want to use same partitions
[00:52] <Takeasy> yes
[00:53] <Takeasy> as my display card can't be recognized, i bypass the display card checking
[00:53] <Takeasy> i915.modeset=1
[00:53] <Sysi> what card is it?
[00:54] <Takeasy> well actually it's a onboard one
[00:54] <Sysi> (umph sorry, almost 3am, i'm going to bed ->)
[00:55] <Takeasy> off you go
[00:55] <Takeasy> i'd be back some time
[03:28] <vic20gmr> is this where ppc[macintosh] xubuntu discussion / support takesplace?
[03:34] <charlie-tca> If we know the answer. Otherwise, more help might be available in #ubuntu-ppc or #ubuntu-powerpc
[03:37] <vic20gmr> ok thx
[03:38] <vic20gmr> one question thats on mymind may apply to all xubunut, i suspect; if i installed with one sort of usb-wifi adaptr, can i plug in a different one and still connect to the net with it?
[03:39] <vic20gmr> without needing to download pkgs?
[03:40] <charlie-tca> maybe
[03:41] <charlie-tca> usb-wifi is a strange animal to have to try and make work. It might be okay, but it might not. You just have to try it and see. You can always plug the old one back in, but even that could fail if it tries to install new drivers.
[03:41] <charlie-tca> Try the new adapter witht he live cd, and see if it works?
[03:43] <vic20gmr> well im thinking, it may use diff drivers if it detects? a diff adapter at boot time?
[03:45] <vic20gmr> i just want to say wut a thrill itis to see xubuntu LI?NUX! running an an i bool i piked up for 75 bucks!
[03:45] <charlie-tca> That's great!
[03:45] <vic20gmr> ibook i piked up
[03:45] <charlie-tca> I am glad it is working :-)
[03:46] <vic20gmr> ya like a charm "right out of the box"! :D
[03:47] <vic20gmr> it duznt have an aiport card, so i was hoping a linux distro+usb<>wifi wud make it net cpable
[03:48] <vic20gmr> i prob need to quit xchat for a bit, lang packs r installing, then on to updates
[03:48] <vic20gmr> thx, and ltrz - charlie, all
[03:49] <charlie-tca> Good luck
[06:04] <vic20gmr> i tried connecting to #xubuntupowerpc, as well as #xubuntuppc, and i was the only one there, did i mis-type?
[06:05] <knome> vic20gmr, there's no such channels
[06:05] <knome> !powerpc
[06:05] <vic20gmr> im trying to determine the best kb layout to use for an ibook g3
[06:05] <knome> hmm, i'm sure there was some channel for that, but can't remember what was its name...
[06:06] <knome> vic20gmr, apparently #ubuntu-ppc :)
[06:06] <vic20gmr> ahh
[06:06] <vic20gmr> thx
[06:06] <knome> np
[06:06] <vic20gmr> no xubuntu specific? its all under ubuntu?
[06:07] <knome> yes, no xubuntu specific channel, since the group is small anyway
[06:08] <vic20gmr> ahh ok, thx again :)
[06:08] <knome> again, np & you're welcome :)
[07:52] <vic20gmr> i want to open a port in xubuntu, howdo i do that?
[07:52] <vic20gmr> google hasnt helped so far
[08:25] <vic20gmr> i cant fig out y transmission says the port is blocked, and ive used the same exact port on another machine and it everything works fine on it
[08:25] <vic20gmr> anyone have an idea wut i need to do?
[08:25] <vic20gmr> im using jaunty
[08:26] <TheSheep> vic20gmr: are you behind a nat?
[08:27] <vic20gmr> im on wifi, so i think that means yes, correct?
[08:29] <vic20gmr> wut i dont understand is with the same port set, i can use utorrent with no problems
[08:29] <TheSheep> vic20gmr: then you need to configure your router to either forward that particular port to your machine
[08:30] <vic20gmr> y does it work on one machine, but the *exact* same port is reported closed on this one?
[08:30] <TheSheep> vic20gmr: you can only have a port forwarded to a single machine, so obviously the same port won't work on different ones
[08:30] <vic20gmr> surely its something at my end?
[08:30] <vic20gmr> they rnt connected at the same time
[08:31] <vic20gmr> the other comp isnt currently connected
[08:31] <TheSheep> vic20gmr: http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/itanswers/what-is-nat-port-forwarding/
[08:31] <vic20gmr> i kno wut is port forwarding
[08:31] <TheSheep> apparently you don't
[08:31] <TheSheep> this has nothing to do with your xubuntu, and everything to do with your router
[08:31] <vic20gmr> i dont know y two machines wud have diff results on same port [they have never been connected simultaniously]
[08:32] <vic20gmr> everything to do with router? then y does ther comp work fine?
[08:32] <vic20gmr> the other*
[08:33] <vic20gmr> i hope ur not gonna assume u know it must b a router prob, and stop there
[08:34] <TheSheep> you configure port forwarding for every ip address separately, if your router is sanely configured, your computers get different ip addresses even if they are not connected at the same time. just configure it for your computer on the router.
[08:34] <vic20gmr> i cant config router
[08:34] <vic20gmr> i dont have access to it
[08:34] <TheSheep> so that's that
[08:35] <vic20gmr> so y does one get thru the port, and this one doesnt?
[08:36] <vic20gmr> TheSheep,  y does this comp not get thru, but other comp [using same wifi adapter, in case it matters] not get thru?
[08:37] <TheSheep> maybe they can help you at #networking
[08:38] <vic20gmr> so i take u dont know the answer?
[08:40] <TheSheep> I don't have an answer that satisfies you, and no matter how many times you ask, my answer won't change. I don't have time for giving a lecture on how nat works, espacially since that is easily googled. Maybe someone at #networking will have more patience.
[08:40] <TheSheep> especially*
[08:40] <TheSheep> you can also stay here and see if someone else has a better answer
[08:41] <vic20gmr> keep this way of carrying yourself sheep, that way more people will run to ubuntu and/or other alt oses
[08:43] <vic20gmr> re-read the "ubuntu philosophy", if u can tear urself away from here long enuff
[08:43] <TheSheep> !attitude
[08:48] <vic20gmr> idk is acceptable as an answer
[13:11] <visitor1> how good is the idea to install the latest nvidia driver on a 10.04 system?
[13:13] <visitor1> it says under hardware drivers that i am using the current version which is recommended
[13:34] <TheSheep> visitor1: why do you need the latest version?
[13:35] <visitor1> for trying out , maybe my video will be played back smoother
[13:37] <visitor1> i looked for ubuntu wiki, seems to be rather complicated i think i will wait for 10.10 and maybe try this finished product out
[13:38] <TheSheep> this is generally a good idea, unless you have a lot of time and don't really need your computer for several days ;)
[13:38] <visitor1> lol TheSheep
[13:38] <visitor1> ok , thanks TheSheep
[13:54] <ubuntu_user> hello I need help
[13:54] <knome> !ask | ubuntu_user
[13:54] <ubuntu_user> I'm installing at the moment xubuntu 10.10 beta and the installer seams to do nothing froze or something
[13:54] <knome> !maverick | ubuntu_user
[13:55] <ubuntu_user> I see only removing conflicting operating system files
[13:55] <ubuntu_user> I know but how can I continue installation or gone thru it
[13:55] <ubuntu_user> or do something to fix this
[13:55] <Sysi> reboot and try installation again
[13:56] <ubuntu_user> tried that
[13:56] <Sysi> use stable version
[13:57] <ubuntu_user> dont get me wrong but I gone thru the process of chosing partitions etc and it started to install or atleast i guess it does and now its stalled on " removing conflicting operating system files"
[13:57] <ubuntu_user> is there possibility that it is installed ?
[13:57] <ubuntu_user> I got 800mb usage on / partition atm
[13:57] <knome> ubuntu_user, please, as you are told, discussion about 10.10 only in #ubuntu+1
[13:57] <knome> ubuntu_user, also, as this is an installation issue, i'm sure you'll get more help there.
[13:58] <ubuntu_user> thanks
[15:39] <Tir_Eoghan> so I have a bit of an odd question; (odd answers will get high marks) now I know xubuntu technicall can run on a 400mhz celeron with 192mb's of ram, but will it run well? or am I better off with a lighter linux version
[15:40] <edakiri> Tir_Eoghan: Mine is using about 230MB , not including buffers+cache.
[15:41] <Tir_Eoghan> hmmm.. so by that I assume, that it won't run too well on my super computer *grin*
[15:41] <Tir_Eoghan> I'm currently running off a live cd of lubuntu, but I can't stand chromium, so I don't want to install it
[15:42] <edakiri> top ram user is firefox4 at 86MB resident.
[15:42] <charlie-tca> You could try midori instead of firefox
[15:42] <edakiri> I too hate chromium. there is midori.
[15:43] <edakiri> charlie-tca: i may.  i'm getting by (barely) with FF
[15:43] <Tir_Eoghan> good call, I'll use midori.. so Midori in xubuntu shouldn't be a problem
[15:43] <charlie-tca> midori should work good
[15:43] <istok> for some weird reason i can watch flash content but not hear it :(
[15:43] <charlie-tca> istok: do you have other sounds?
[15:44] <Tir_Eoghan> I can't abide flash either hehe, although I will use cclive to download those odd decent streaming videos
[15:44] <istok> charlie-tca, no, doesn't seem to be any
[15:45] <charlie-tca> That matters
[15:45] <istok> i'm going to download an mp3, try to play with something
[15:45] <istok> just had a fresh install, from debian
[15:45] <charlie-tca> hmm, debian is not xubuntu
[15:46] <istok> i was using debian but i had issues so did a fresh install of xubuntu
[15:46] <Tir_Eoghan> one day I'll switch to an even lighter os, but currently I'm not knowledgeable enough in linux to use anything less user friendly then the 'buntu family
[15:46] <istok> ubuntu is based on debian
[15:47] <istok> pretty similar
[15:47] <charlie-tca> based on, but not debian
[15:47] <istok> heh
[15:47] <istok> well, so far i <3 it - everything runs smoother than my 5.0.6 lenny
[15:47] <istok> the only thing; the sound
[15:48] <istok> testing mp3
[15:48] <charlie-tca> probably have to enable it in the mixer
[15:48] <charlie-tca> left-click the speaker thing in the panel, that is the mixer
[15:49] <istok> yeah, seems no driver
[15:49] <istok> hrmm
[15:49] <charlie-tca> I would click "select controls", turn on at least master, cd, video
[15:50] <Sysi> pcm
[15:50] <charlie-tca> Then you right-click the mixer, click properties, make sure it is not muted
[15:51] <istok> i did that, still nothing
[15:52] <charlie-tca> speakers are connected and turned on
[15:53] <edakiri> It is like the firefox versions which are not Firefox.
[15:53] <edakiri> (ubuntu ... debian)
[15:54] <istok> heh
[15:54] <istok> yes, everything worked fine before
[15:54] <istok> i added the controls, unmuted pc-speaker etc
[15:54] <crazygir> hi there, I have both windows and xubuntu installed (boot used to work fine) though something happened and windows does not boot properly now. What is the best way to have grub recheck for windows and make the updates?
[15:55] <istok> crazygir, sudo nano -w /boot/grub/menu.lst <- and manually edit, or /sbin/update-grub
[15:56] <crazygir> I tried manually editing in the past, but to no avail
[15:56] <crazygir> I'll try update-grub
[15:56] <crazygir> thanks istok
[15:56] <charlie-tca> istok: if it is grub2, menu.lst is no longer used
[15:56] <istok> err
[15:57] <istok> i was just thinking that
[15:58] <crazygir> yea.. I guess that happened with the last update
[15:58] <crazygir> what is used now?
[15:58] <charlie-tca> /etc/default/grub to make changes
[15:58] <charlie-tca> update-grub to fix things
[15:59] <crazygir> interesting
[15:59] <Tir_Eoghan> the thought occurs; you might be better off without windows *grin*
[16:00] <istok> weird, everything seems installed, driver wise, but still, no sound
[16:01] <charlie-tca> istok: okay, arguable method I use to enable sound
[16:01] <charlie-tca> left-click the mixer
[16:01] <charlie-tca> left-click select controls
[16:01] <charlie-tca> check master, pcm, cd, video
[16:02] <charlie-tca> make sure nothing is muted and all volumes are at least 75% up the scale
[16:02] <charlie-tca> click the arrows for SOUND CARD
[16:02] <istok> it's on alsa mixer
[16:02] <charlie-tca> pick "Playback: Internal Audio Analog Stereo (PulseAudio Mixer)
[16:02] <charlie-tca> click master
[16:03] <charlie-tca> make sure it is not muted and the volume scale is at least 50%
[16:03] <charlie-tca> click quit
[16:03] <istok> dude
[16:03] <istok> champion! :)
[16:03] <istok> ty
[16:03] <istok> so it was the playback
[16:03] <crazygir> Tir_Eoghan: you are correct, and actually.. this broke months ago, but I haven't had the 'requirement' for windows until now
[16:03] <charlie-tca> now right click the mixer, click properties
[16:03] <istok> i had the sound turned up loud too, headphones on
[16:03] <istok> unticked mute and BOOM
[16:04] <crazygir> rebooting and testing.. thanks for the help
[16:04] <charlie-tca> Sound Card: select playback: internal audio analog stereo (PulseAudio Mixer)
[16:04] <charlie-tca> That lets the speaker volume be controlled by the mixer without having to call up the whole thing
[16:04] <charlie-tca> you can then use the scroll wheel to change the volume and see it
[16:05] <istok> hrmm, where is the properties?
[16:05] <charlie-tca> right-click,
[16:06] <Tir_Eoghan> that tears it, I need to purchase a working cdburner
[16:06] <charlie-tca> heh
[16:06] <charlie-tca> istok: close the mixer, then right-click the speaker in the panel
[16:06] <Tir_Eoghan> I can't rely on useing my roomates computers to burn my os iso's, they are always asleep when I'm awake
[16:07] <istok> yep
[16:07] <istok> sound card - mixer track - left click command
[16:09] <charlie-tca> no
[16:09] <charlie-tca> not mixer track. It will be preset for you
[16:09] <charlie-tca> sound card above mixer track
[16:10] <charlie-tca> make it say pulseaudio mixer
[16:10] <charlie-tca> the playback: ...
[16:12] <istok> ok
[16:13] <charlie-tca> then close
[16:13] <istok> done
[16:20] <xubuntu253> hi verybody
[16:20] <xubuntu253> i have a problem with xubuntu installation
[16:21] <xubuntu253> when the installation progress is %85 it freezed
[16:22] <charlie-tca> It might be working in the background. Somethings just take a while to complete
[16:22] <xubuntu253> what can i do now?
[16:22] <charlie-tca> How long has it been frozen?
[16:22] <xubuntu253> about ten minutes
[16:23] <xubuntu253> it writes that "running dgkp'
[16:24] <xubuntu253> dpkg
[16:24] <charlie-tca> Try hitting the enter key
[16:24] <charlie-tca> It might be working, too. Some of my machines do that for up to 30 minutes
[16:25] <xubuntu253> i hate windows i want to install xubuntu because of my old system
[16:25] <charlie-tca> How much ram does that system have?
[16:25] <xubuntu253> i use a boot program and i tried to install this two times
[16:26] <xubuntu253> i have 384 mb ram
[16:26] <xubuntu253> celeron 1200 tualatin
[16:26] <charlie-tca> then it will take a long time to complete
[16:26] <charlie-tca> Did the cd pass the integrity check?
[16:26] <xubuntu253> yes
[16:27] <xubuntu253> i will try again but iwant to install it my c drive
[16:27] <xubuntu253> i have two partition c and d
[16:27] <xubuntu253> in d partition i have very important files
[16:28] <xubuntu253> i want to format c and install xubuntu instead of windows
[16:28] <xubuntu253> i have no cd rom or cd writer
[16:28] <xubuntu253> i have only xubuntu 1004 iso file and a boot manager
[16:30] <xubuntu253> when i boot unetboot, can i format only c drive?
[16:30] <charlie-tca> I think so
[16:30] <charlie-tca> You could also create a usb image, and use it to install
[16:30] <charlie-tca> !install
[16:31] <xubuntu253> i have read all of these
[16:32] <xubuntu253> but i fear that formatting c
[16:32] <charlie-tca> oh
[16:32] <charlie-tca> well, what about keeping c and installing using wubi?
[16:32] <xubuntu253> if i format c with ext4 can i use my d drive with ntfs file system ?
[16:32] <charlie-tca> formatting c makes windows go away
[16:33] <xubuntu253> i dont need windows i hate windows
[16:33] <charlie-tca> yes, you can use d with ntfs, but it won't be called d in Xubuntu. It will be called sda2 or sdb1
[16:33] <istok> hrmm, why would exile say i don't have a decoder installed to handle an mp3 file?
[16:34] <istok> exaile*
[16:34] <xubuntu253> okay i understand that: if i format c drive with ext4. i wont lose my datas in d drive
[16:35] <xubuntu253> thank you very much my friend
[16:35] <charlie-tca> right
[16:35] <xubuntu253> greetings everybody from turkey
[16:35] <xubuntu253> take care.
[16:35] <charlie-tca> istok: you did not install the mp3 decoders/codecs ?
[16:35] <charlie-tca> xubuntu253: no problem
[16:35] <charlie-tca> good luck
[16:36] <istok> charlie-tca, i thought i had - where would that be?
[16:36] <charlie-tca> usually in multivers repository
[16:36] <istok> ok
[16:38] <istok> hrmm, libgmp3c2 is installed
[16:41] <charlie-tca> Sysi, TheSheep :  both know codecs and mp3 better than me
[16:43] <sagarchalise> Can anybody tell me how to change key binding
[16:44] <charlie-tca> sagarchalise: what version of Xubuntu?
[16:44] <sagarchalise> charlie-tca, lucid
[16:45] <Sysi> !restricted
[16:45] <charlie-tca> sagarchalise: Applications -> Xfce4 Settings Manager -> Keyboard, Application Shortcuts
[16:47] <sagarchalise> charlie-tca, How do I change xfce-screenshooter from print to ctrl+print
[16:48] <charlie-tca> remove it and then add a new shortcut for the keys you want
[16:48] <charlie-tca> or double click it,
[16:48] <charlie-tca> then just hit the keys you want. It will change it
[16:49] <sagarchalise> charlie-tca, ooh got it,silly me :D
[16:49] <charlie-tca> No, it isn't really intuitive, nor are there any prompts to guide you at that point
[16:54] <istok> yay, exaile likes me now
[16:55] <istok> so far, these fixes have been working, but my webcam isn't :/
[16:57]  * charlie-tca thinks "That won't be possible"
[16:57] <istok> the webcam?
[16:57] <charlie-tca> istok: I have never been able to make webcams work
[16:57] <istok> lol
[16:58] <istok> i can get it to work, but flash sites (that try to connect/stream) are unable to
[16:58] <istok> i've done the flash settings, allowing the site access, etc
[16:58] <charlie-tca> I really have given on them
[16:58] <istok> it was a modprobe gspca_main; modprobe gspca_pac7311
[16:59] <istok> that got the cam working
[16:59] <istok> lsusb showed it was a pixart - so i just looked it up on google
[17:43] <maryans> hi people
[17:44] <xubuntu998> hello people
[17:45] <xubuntu998> need some pro help with simple instructions ?
[17:45] <xubuntu998> i need that is !
[17:45] <charlie-tca> !ask
[17:51] <xubuntu998> installed xubuntu and have xp installed , when i start my system i got "grub rescue" because he didnt recognize my instalation or bootsequence . then i used the option on the live cd "boot from first hdd" then it worked , but now i updated and at restart grub rescue kicks in again and now even boot from first hdd fails , how can i repair this ?
[17:52] <xubuntu998> cause i dont want to re-install xp again , my wife is gonna kill me if its unfixable :(
[17:53] <Sysi> sounds like you need to reinstall grub
[17:53] <Sysi> !grub2
[18:20] <xubuntu998> oh yeah , was away and read the answers , but i failed to mention i have xubuntu 10.04 installed :S
[18:22] <xubuntu998> so grub 2 should be installed fine , now i reinstalled xubuntu again and dont wanna update if the bootmanager works again i guees
[18:22] <xubuntu998> but at least thx though for some answers
[18:32] <TechKat> ok odd problem
[18:33] <TechKat> upgraded via apt to the latest version, now suddenly piklab is broken. it's kinda important to what i often do
[18:33] <TechKat> says something about drkonqi not being found, but i supposedly have the packages containing that installed
[18:38] <charlie-tca> TechKat: try this - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingInstallationIssues#Corrupted%20package%20archive
[18:38] <charlie-tca> It often fixes things
[18:39] <charlie-tca> Well, at least the clean and update part fixes things ;-)
[18:40] <TechKat> well we shapp see
[18:40] <TechKat> shall *
[18:41] <TechKat> nope
[18:41] <TechKat> same problem
[18:41] <charlie-tca> tried reinstalling drkonqi ?
[18:41] <TechKat> yup
[18:42] <TechKat> it's in the kedbase-bins supposedly
[18:43] <charlie-tca> If the updates lost it, sometimes a remove and reinstall will help, though
[18:44] <TechKat> i honestly have no idea what lost what. the whole thing has been wonky since the upgrade
[18:44] <charlie-tca> try "sudo dpkg --configure -a" in a terminal
[18:45] <TechKat> nope
[18:46] <TechKat> prolly not anything anyone other then me gives a crap about
[18:48] <TechKat> all i know is this is now costing me more time then it honestly should
[18:52] <TechKat> i am unimpressed by 10.04
[18:53] <TechKat> on the upside the book i ordered just showed up
[18:54] <Sysi> version updates have possibility to break things
[18:55] <TechKat> obviously, but attempts to unbreak them such as reinstalling packages an shit should not crash and burn like they are doing
[18:56] <Sysi> !language
[18:56] <TechKat> ?
[18:58] <TechKat> i fail to see how anything i've said is not family friendly. heck i hear worse from 8 year olds in this day an age, it still does not change the fact that this is broken, i need to fix it and i'd really like some help.
[18:58] <TechKat> things like "yea well running apt could break things" are not exactly constructive
[18:59] <charlie-tca> hmm, maybe it is the kids I am around, but none of them use those words
[18:59] <Sysi> same
[18:59] <knome> TechKat, it is still inappropriate. please act per the guidelines or we might have to consider removing you.
[18:59] <TechKat> what would you rather i use in place?
[18:59] <knome> TechKat, as people are volunteers, it's not said they do their everything. also, answers are not always available, even if people wanted to help
[18:59] <charlie-tca> nothing
[19:00] <TechKat> i see no reason for us to remain in an off topic discussion based on 1 possibly iffy word that i said while describing the current situation
[19:02] <TechKat> trust me the word i used was quite restrained as i have a whole vulgar vocabulary running thur my head about this current situation
[19:02] <TechKat> that being said, i will refrain from anything that could possibly offend
[19:03] <knome> TechKat, it still does not justify using any less offensive word, as long as it's offensive
[19:03] <knome> TechKat, thanks
[19:03] <TechKat> it's not offensive to anyone but possibly super conservitive religious people. but that's besides the point
[19:03] <TechKat> i need to get this working as soon as possible so any and all suggestions on how to fix this current issue would greatly be appreciated
[19:04] <charlie-tca> Offending those attempting to help really doesn't work here
[19:04] <knome> !guidelines | TechKat, you can always refer to the ubuntu channel guidelines, and if you want to discuss about them not being just, feel free to join #ubuntu-ops to discuss that rather than start the discussion here:
[19:06] <TechKat> just a quick fyi, harping on something that somone already said they were sorry for is not exactly the best way to keep a channel friendly and attractive to both new and experienced users
[19:07] <charlie-tca> more help might be available in #ubuntu, too
[19:07] <TechKat> the trigger i just read says not to cross post
[19:12] <knome> TechKat, i agree discussing about guidelines is not on-topic, that's why i pointed you to them and told you are free to join #ubuntu-ops to discuss them further, if you feel like it. if not, then please act per them. thanks.
[19:12] <knome> TechKat, re: cross posting; it is okay if we say you could ask there, but joining N channels and posting the question parallely to all is not really wanted.
[19:13] <TechKat> well i didn't want to offend the ops
[19:13] <TechKat> you know how that goes
[19:13] <knome> TechKat, you can of course also ask another channel yourself if it looks like you are not going to get a reply now
[19:14] <knome> TechKat, with all the rules, using common sense is very very welcome :) (it's okay, nobody is offended, just to make sure the channel stays family-friendly :))
[19:15] <TechKat> (i'm a ham radio operator, you're more strict then the FCC about language and that's saying something)
[19:27] <TechKat> well it's quite frustrating
[19:29] <krabador> really great the new default theme, if ubuntu staff don't modofy nothing in the next ubuntu default theme, i think many people will snob ubuntu.
[19:33] <charlie-tca> knome: ^ ^ ^ Great job from shimmer
[19:33] <knome> krabador, charlie-tca: thanks.
[19:43] <charlie-tca> You are welcome
[19:45] <TechKat> new error /usr/bin/iceauth:  creating new authority file .ICEauthority Session management error: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed
[19:46] <knome> charlie-tca, see http://shimmerproject.org/2010/09/bluebird-default-theme-xubuntu-1010/, published earlier today
[19:51] <charlie-tca> Very good! Thanks for the mention.
[19:52] <knome> np
[19:59] <TechKat> any ideas?
[20:03] <TechKat> ok i seem to have tracked it down to something to do with dcopserver
[20:11] <TechKat> hmm getting closer
[20:12] <TechKat> it now seems my parallel port could not be claimed
[20:16] <TechKat> any ideas knome?
[20:16] <knome> TechKat, no, not really...
[20:16] <TechKat> grr
[20:56] <Riotta> hello
[20:56] <Riotta> how to save laptop backlight level in xfce I used brightness plugin for xfce and it works but after reboot I got 100% again
[20:57] <Riotta> so the level is not saved, in Gnome it was saved and worked
[21:59] <Spicypixel> hey guys, got a kinda general question, I did some upgrades last night on the daily xubuntu build and today logged in and I seem to have a gnome style popups for notifications instead of the dark xubuntu ones. Any clues on how I can get the old skin for system notifications back?
[22:33] <charding> I've added a ppa to 'Other Sources' in my Respositories but I can't upgrade a package that's in this ppa
[22:34] <Sysi> charding: it won't automatically update because it's ppa
[22:35] <Sysi> you need to install package manually
[22:35] <Sysi> and ofc update package information
[22:36] <Spicypixel> any one know why my installation is now using the gnome notification daemon seemingly
[22:38] <charding> Sysi: How can I grab the deb/rpm from the ppa?
[22:38] <charding> on the launchpad website
[22:39] <charding> Sysi: hmm, I have seem to have found it, thanks
[22:40] <Spicypixel> mhmm relogged in after installing xfce4-notifyd and now its different again, not gnome, nor xubuntus default
[22:47] <Spicypixel> mhmm Settings > Notifications gives me 3 options none of which are the default one that shipped with xubuntu
[23:00] <Spicypixel> so notification-daemon package works but gives me gnome notifcations, xfce4-notifyd works but gives me the stock XFCE notifications it seems, any clues on how to restore the default xubuntu notifications?
[23:01] <charlie-tca> different theme, maybe?
[23:01] <Spicypixel> well, I went to apps> settings> notifications
[23:01] <Spicypixel> Default theme is similar but doesnt auto fade with mouse over
[23:02] <Spicypixel> smoke is different and zomg ponies scares me
[23:02] <charlie-tca> Then it is different, maybe changing the theme is what makes the notifications different
[23:02] <Spicypixel> yeah, its definitely a theme missing issue
[23:02] <Spicypixel> I think I accidentally installed something which installed notification-daemon which then reset it to gnome
[23:03] <Spicypixel> putting xfce-notifyd back in changed it back but now its the wrong theme
[23:03] <Spicypixel> kinda frustrating
[23:05] <Spicypixel> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9465182
[23:05] <Spicypixel> this shined some light on the issue, but rebooting didnt restore the old theme
[23:09] <Spicypixel> relogging again
[23:11] <Spicypixel> yay, removing notification-daemon and xfce4-notifyd and installing notify-osd and its all good
[23:12] <Spicypixel> problem solved