[00:00] acicula over at #ubuntu solver my problem: Add to panel, indicator applet [00:13] how do i install tomcat 7 on ubuntu 10.10 pre-release? [00:18] how did you install it on 10.04? [00:20] is tomcat 7 out yet .. [00:22] it is , but not Stable. [00:25] tomcat is for apache right? [00:26] Right. [00:28] guys , look here http://bit.ly/9WHoli [00:29] Ok, so I installed meerkat on monday, but it doesn't seem to have installed a bootloader. I can boot if I use the installer usb stick, but not without it. Tips? :) [00:29] Typh, is it a single boot, or dual boot machine? [00:30] single boot [00:30] what is it doing when it "doesn't boot" [00:30] becasue grub doesn't show on a single boot machine [00:31] i guess my point is, are you letting it set a second, befoer turning it off because you're not seeing grub? [00:31] Blank screen, blinking cursor. Nothing terribly useful. [00:31] ovrflw0x, http://bit.ly/a9FOii , [00:31] ok... again, how long are you letting it set? [00:31] And yeah, I've let it sit for quite a while [00:32] 15 minutes at the longest, I would guess [00:32] well, 15min, it should've booted [00:35] hrm [01:09] Hi, I installed 10.10 from alternate install from USB. Everything seemed to go fine. But it boots to a command line, not the gui, and does not start the network. How do I fix?? [01:09] I can find no posts on this anywhere [01:10] This is a brand new PC and a total clean install to HDD [01:11] or even what should i look for that could be causing the problem. I thougt it might be stuck in the wrong runlevel but ubuntu doesnt seem to have the concept of runlevel except for compatability purposes [01:16] SaRy, i looked at the post you pointed me to, I am not sure what WUBI is but I dont think I am using it, this is a clean install to a HDD [01:16] I think my problems with X are symptomatic of my overall problem where it wont boot into X and wont start the network [01:21] and now i am getting rampant "Sorry, Ubuntu One closed unexpectedly" errors [01:26] StrontiumDog: you used the desktop alternate image right? [01:27] StrontiumDog: and what does 'initctl status gdm' tell you? [01:28] about runlevels, upstart doesn't really use them anymore right, for everything else: the default is 2 and 2 - 5 are all the same [01:30] I have a working Ubuntu Maverick install that's terminal-only. I installed ubuntu-gnome and nvidia-current with all the dependencies and then did a sudo nvidia-xconfig, but when I try to sudo startx it says it can't find the nvidia module, what do I need to do next? [01:31] the error itself is "Failed to load module 'nvidia'" and then "No drivers available" [01:31] kandinski, dkms status [01:33] yofel, the iso was: ubuntu-10.10-beta-alternate-amd64.iso [01:33] bjsnider: thanks [01:34] I am rebooting now [01:34] another problem is that it crashes randomly [01:34] (not under Windows, so not a hardware pboblem) [01:34] i need to know what that command says [01:34] StrontiumDog: ok, what does 'sudo service gdm restart' do? [01:35] bjsnider: yeah, I meant that as an excuse for not reporting back: it's rebooting... [01:35] yofel, initctl status gdm says "initctl: Unable to connect to system bus: Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: No such file or directory [01:36] nvidia-current, 256.3, 2.6.35-22-generic, x86-64, installed [01:36] ok... and what does restarting gdm do? if anything [01:36] kandinski, and now uname -r [01:36] yofel, sudo service gdm restart says "restart: Unknown instance:" [01:37] StrontiumDog: and 'sudo service gdm start' ? [01:37] yofel "gdm start/running, process 24232" [01:38] StrontiumDog: and is X now running? or still nothing? [01:39] any error in /var/log/Xorg.0.log ? [01:39] bjsnider: bingo. it says 2.6.35-19-generic, so a different kernel [01:39] small thing...noticed kpat animation is slowed way down from lucids version...who would i speak to about this? [01:39] which developer? [01:39] evidently so [01:39] for som reason you're booting an older kernel [01:39] bjsnider: thanks, how should I go from now? [01:40] yofel, I ran X manually with startx before, I can startx no problem, but things crash and generally misbehave. I will shut it down and see if start gdm does what it should. [01:40] kandinski, check your grub list to make sure that kernel is there [01:40] StrontiumDog: how are you trying to connect to the network? wireless or wired? [01:41] wired network. I can force a connection using ifconfig and route add default... but it doesnt come up automatically [01:41] bjsnider: thanks, will do [01:41] What's the story with hybrid graphics support in 10.10 (or I suppose in Linux in general). I read about some vga-switcheroo utility but not so sure if it is expected to make the cut. [01:41] StrontiumDog: odd, did you install updates? the beta is quite old [01:41] any insights? [01:42] kandinski, check cat /boot/grub/*.cfg and if the -22 kernel isn't there run sudo update-grub [01:42] yes i did sudo apt-get update and then upgrade and then dist-upgrade and then update again and so on [01:45] argh, when booting i'm getting stuck at "Checking battery state [ OK ]" any ideas? [01:47] bjsnider: update-grub was not installed [01:48] and can't find an insall candidate [01:49] StrontiumDog: then I don't know what goes wrong, you could remove 'quiet splash' from the kernel grub line and add --verbose to get upstart to tell you what it does during boot [01:50] kandinski: update-grub is part of 'grub-pc' [01:50] and this *should* be installed [01:50] yofel: I guess it should, but it wasn't. Thanks for the tip, installing now [01:51] yofel, thanks for the tip will try it out [01:53] bjsnider and yofel, thanks, it's booting now into X, no problem [01:53] upgrade must have become borked [01:56] Oooh, ubuntu font is nice. [01:57] It's a bit thin, though. Really thin strokes. [01:57] At least in Thunderbird, that is. [01:58] bjsnider: I get a lot of crashes, so maybe grub-pc fell through the cracks [01:58] maybe a lot of things did [01:59] is ubuntu-desktop installed? [01:59] DanaG, only flaw is no monospace version for 6 months [02:01] bjsnider: it is after I installed ubuntu-gnome [02:02] It's also really thin compared to most desktop fonts. [02:02] It's starting to grow on me, though. [02:02] it's designed for use at small sizes [02:03] but it looks good big too [02:03] looks nice IMO, takes a bit getting used to when looking at launchpad now though ^^ [02:10] I can't remember how to make applications run at start... [02:21] new ubuntu font looks a bit like Dax [02:22] don't see myself using it for copy, but for headlines [02:22] what do you think? [02:27] Is there anything similar to rainlendar for Gnome? [03:05] yofel, these are the thing --verbose threw up which look suspicious: "init:ureadahead-other main process (1052) terminated with status 4" "init: dbus pre-start process (1053) terminated with status 1" [03:05] googling now [03:06] first one is ok, 4 is not an error [03:07] and the dbus pre-start script is only 3 commands: [03:07] mkdir -p /var/run/dbus [03:07] chown messagebus:messagebus /var/run/dbus [03:07] exec dbus-uuidgen --ensure [03:08] StrontiumDog: can you running them and see which one fails? [03:15] yofel: doing that now [03:18] yofel: Last line reports "UUID file '/var/lib/dbus/machine-id' should contain a hex string of length 32, not length 0 with no other text" [03:18] Realistically, what is the difference between the RC tomorrow and the GM? Any reason I SHOULDN'T install it on my desktop? [03:19] gm? [03:19] if you mean todays daily build: no difference [03:20] well, almost, todays daily builds are the candidate images for the RC, if no grave issues are found they'll be released [03:21] StrontiumDog: what does the file have for you? or does it even exist [03:23] machine-id exists but is empty [03:23] as I understand the manpage, dbus-uuidgen --ensure should create the file with a sane UUID if it's missing [03:23] odd [03:24] I have a machine-id.at4HwEMP file and it has a 32 digit hex string in it [03:24] o.O [03:25] can you delete both files and try 'sudo start dbus' ? [03:25] and see if the file has a correct UUID after that [03:26] yofel, GM = gold master = final [03:27] yofel, after i started dbus my screen went blank and the hard drive churned a bit. I will reboot cause at the moment I am flying blind. [03:28] hmm, that new ubuntu font... [03:28] the 'l' looks underlined! [03:29] it does? looks fine here, well, it's barely recognisable as an l since it's so thin [03:34] Is anyone here using the very-latest build of Maverick? [03:34] well, everyone here should have all updates installed, why? [03:35] wondering if there's any outstanding bugs.. I'm not sure where to find a running buglist. [03:36] well, there are lots of bugs... [03:36] !launchpad [03:36] Launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/ [03:36] the bug list should be on there. [03:36] erm, i know _that_. I was wondering about outstanding bugs that are known and planned to be fixed before maverick launches [03:37] Hmm... don't know how to tell ya that. [03:37] aroman: see the list of bugs that are specifically tracked for maverick https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/+bugs the list of filed bugs is a lot larger though [03:37] I haven't had any problems after these last updates... [03:38] that's a pretty disconcerting list lol [03:38] well, except for compiz freaking out. but it's compiz... it's always done that for me. [03:38] i have an nvidia card (01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200] (rev a1) but it can't find any hardware drivers. Is there an issue with 10.10? [03:38] tons of high bugs unresolved. [03:38] GA_Bull, What gfx card do you have? [03:38] iirc, the list for lucid was longer.. [03:39] Blue11: afaik the legacy drivers don't support the new xserver yet [03:39] yofel: thanks that saved me eons of wondering why.... [03:39] aroman, not sure right now, i'm working with two recently acquired computers, and taking an algebra exam, and writing an essay right now... so couldn't really tell you off the top of my head. [03:40] 'lspci | grep VGA' lists the gfx card [03:40] Ah okay. If you get a chance to find out, and if you've got an ATI card, try pulling the very latest from their drivers page.. they have pretty frequent updates for linux [03:40] Actually, wrong on that ATI bit... [03:40] Maverick repos have Catalyst 10.10. [03:40] It's not available anywhere else. [03:41] oh snap -- really? [03:41] and it's not on ati.com.. [03:41] ? [03:41] hmm... well I fixed it last time, it was previously a problem with blacklisting... but that's probably been fixed by now... it's not important, I don't need compiz-config... [03:41] haha. [03:42] :) [03:43] yofel, that fixed it, my black screen was caused by an xorg.conf error. xorg now fired up after boot and networking works. I also now only have a single machine-id file and its got the required 32 character hex string in it. Thankyou very much for your help. [03:43] nice to hear, wonder how that happened though... [03:44] so, my netbook is now my desktop, running 10.10... seems to work well. I gave up on the stupid Unity thing... it sucked. and I don't ever use my netbook, so hooked it up to a 24" monitor and put it on my desk. problem solved. [03:44] only question now is anybody know how to keep it from blanking the screen when it's closed, when you're using an external monitor. [03:46] not a whole lot of updates - looks like we are in RC mode pretty much [03:50] Hi can i upgrade to 10.10 alredy ? [03:51] yofel, i dont know its how it came up fresh after a brand new install [03:51] yofel: thank you very much I really appreciate your help. [03:51] you're welcome [03:51] Anyone having issues installing Team Viewer in 10.10? [03:52] Ivis: 'sudo update-manager -d' or 'sudo do-release-upgrade -d' (latter to upgrade from a terminal) [03:53] yofel, thanks [03:53] Anyone having issues installing Team Viewer in 10.10? [03:53] any idea why gnome-desktop might be getting held back? [03:57] Anyone else have any problems installing Team Viewer in 10.10? [04:01] Crankygeek: what's the package name? I can't find it in the archive [04:03] Ohh, it's from Teamviewer.com [04:39] I am looking into inconsistencies of the manner in which 10.10 is treating shells scripts (like Pharo.sh). I have just tried OpenSolaris, Fedora, Mandriva, ubuntu 9.04 and mint. They all show a context menu of 'Open' for this script file. Ubuntu 10.10 does not - Further all those distributions load the Pharo IDE without problem. When I change the property of the file to executable, then the context menu shows 'Open', but the exe [04:39] cution does not open the IDE. [04:40] Mint is interesting in that it forces the checkbox to set (in the properties menu) [04:40] anyone have any idea why the bluetooth icon on my screen says bluetooth is enabled, but the bluetooth preferences dialog says its disabled and when i press "Turn on bluetooth" nothing happens??? [04:44] Anyone, I am looking into inconsistencies of the manner in which 10.10 is treating shells scripts (like Pharo.sh). I have just tried OpenSolaris, Fedora, Mandriva, ubuntu 9.04 and mint. They all show a context menu of 'Open' for this script file. Ubuntu 10.10 does not - Further all those distributions load the Pharo IDE without problem. When I change the property of the file to executable, then the context menu shows 'Open', but [04:44] the execution does not open the IDE. [04:47] StrontiumDog, not ubuntu specific, but check: 1, bluetooth enabled in BIOS; 2, bluetooth driver loaded for kernel; 3. bluetooth started in services(init) [04:47] intrader: have you reported it? [04:48] kklimonda, no, #ubuntu-bugs want to discuss this here. [04:49] Hmm, that new Ubuntu font... the letter 'c' in the Firefox titlebar makes me think I have some smudges on my screen. It has little blobs on the inside of the right two ends of the letter. [04:51] kklimonda, trying again. [04:51] intrader: it's most likely a change made by GNOME, they did the same with running "untrusted" desktop files. A problem with IDE not running most likely isn't related to that [04:53] kklimonda, in my opinion, it is incorrect to handle script files that way. The '#!/usr/bin/sh' first line demands special treatment. [04:53] intrader: only if it has a +x bit set [04:54] even in terminal you can't launch script directly if it doesn't have execute bit set [04:54] intrader: plus I don't know about other distributions, but sh is in /bin not /usr/bin in ubuntu [04:58] anybody use GRUB_CMDLINE...blah=".. with "nosplash text" as parameter on maverick ? after doing update-rc.d -f gdm remove, and plymouth remove, apt-get remove gdm, during bootup, short before it goes to text login, the screen still flashes a splash for a second, display changes in some way [04:58] dli interestingly I tried to install blueman and it installed OK, BUT it did not conflict with the standard bluetooth manager and now i have them both running. This would seem to be a packaging problem, no? [04:58] glebihan, sorry my mistake - I could include a pastebin to be accurate [04:58] I'm trying to figure out what's doing that [04:58] intrader: yes could you do that ? I'd like to see the script [04:59] kklimonda, not in any of the other mentioned distributions - they don't need the +x. If you set it then 10.10 offers the 'Open' context menu [04:59] StrontiumDog, blueman is just a GUI frontend, check your bluez installation [05:00] glebihan, could you remind me of the pastebin url for ubuntu? [05:00] intrader: paste.ubuntu.com [05:01] DaveWM: I don't think the nosplash option is recognized, to disable the splash screen, you should just need not to set the splash option [05:02] glebihan, done, here it is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/503006/ [05:02] DaveWM: My GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX is empty and I don't have a splash screen [05:04] glebihan, as mentioned I tried all those distributions with the +x not set! In the case of mint, it forces the checkbox to set. [05:07] glebihan, miint is KDE, the rest of them use GNOME [05:09] kklimonda, I concur with you that the problem of the pharo IDE not coming up is probably incompatible squeak (the VM for Smalltalk) [05:09] intrader: just a test, try replacing the content of pharo.sh by this : http://paste.ubuntu.com/503009/ [05:10] glebihan, with the contents of this of the pastebin? [05:10] intrader: yes [05:10] glebihan : just figured it out, it was indeed plymouth, did mv /etc/init/plymouth* ~ to move all the plymouth conf files out, and rebooted, no splash ( not even a screen flicker ) on shutdown or reboot now [05:11] DaveWM: ok nice [05:11] also, you're right, i changed my grub arguments to just "text" didnt need "nosplash" or anything else [05:12] glebihan, 10.10 does not offer the context menu 'Open' [05:12] intrader: but it's an upstream change afaics [05:13] intrader: it should... [05:13] intrader: use command-line to open the file if you can't get to do it otherwise [05:14] glebihan, does not allow me to change the executable bit from the context properties dialog [05:14] intrader: that's probably because you don't have rights, do it as root [05:15] intrader: same thing for opening the file btw [05:16] glebihan, I must discontinue this for the moment, my wife is calling. I have copied the pharo folder to the desktop and will do so later. thanks [05:16] intrader: you're welcome, don't hesitate to get back to me later if you need to [05:18] argh, any time I try to alt-f2 and open some thing in Pictures, which is a symlink to my ntfs partition, it tries to execute it instead of using gnome-open. [05:19] And any time I try to install an app in Wine from a CD, I'm screwed... you can't set +x [05:19] it's a sign not to use wine ;) [05:20] yeah, and it thoroughly devours 100% of one CPU core when run through PulseAudio. [05:20] DanaG: force use of gnome-open, files on ntfs partition are considered as executable [05:20] Even native OpenAL apps don't do that! [05:20] Now, KDE can be even weirder... it'll try to "execute" a directory. [05:36] Anyone here using 2.6.35 with a laptop? [05:36] Let me guess: touchpad issues? [05:37] Nope, wondering about the async suspend/resume thing. [05:37] ah. [05:37] It's in 2.6.35.. right? [05:37] I don't actually know what "async suspend/resume" is. [05:38] Because that sounds like a feature that needs some hyping.. the slow suspend/resume esp. when closing the lid has always been aa annoyance for lots of people [05:38] oh, so have you ever used Linux on a laptop? [05:43] I'm just not sure what you mean by "async" (asychronous), specifically. [05:43] I do use suspend/resume all the time. [05:45] On a laptop? [05:45] The idea of the async system is to speed up suspend/resume times, primarily. [05:46] It has been in progress 2 years to my knowledge, but most versions have been brutally shot down by Linus, and I'm not exaggerating. [05:46] I was curious to find out if it does, in fact, speed up suspend/resume times significantly [05:51] Hmm, I'm now interested... have to dig up a link. [05:52] ah, my biggest issue with suspend/resume is that fglrx leaks boatloads of memory during suspend/resume. [05:56] Very interesting, I use fglrx on my computer, but it's an all-in-one not a laptop [05:56] I too was very interested in the async thing.. seems like the kind of major upstram papercut ubuntu has been dying to get fixed. [06:04] hmm, I just tried setting "max-gart-size"... I'll see if that helps next time. [06:41] hi, I have seen a problem with ths sign of one mirror [06:41] http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick/Release === shookees is now known as ZNC_shookees [08:06] Andre_Gondim, that mirror seems all wrong [08:07] maybe it is another async issue :p === zniavre_ is now known as zniavre [08:19] good morning [08:20] damned it's the RC s day and there is no legacy nvidia driver available ... === ZNC_shookees is now known as shookees === bilalakhtar_ is now known as bilalakhtar [11:01] Hi guys I'm having this issue: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/610440?comments=all [11:02] Launchpad bug 610440 in linux (Ubuntu) "ath5k phy0: gain calibration timeout after Kernel Upgrade" [Undecided,New] [11:02] had it on 10.04 and also on 10.10 -- can anyone recmomend a fix ? it's sooo difficult to do anything currently [11:02] note in 9.10 it was fine === takeda is now known as Guest19802 [11:39] I have fglrx installed from standard repo for 10.10, I have virtual box ose installed from standard repo (no customisations to either of these or manually downloaded versions) If I start VBox X crashes when I move the mouse over it. Everytime. I am getting a segfault. Trace now at http://pastebin.ca/1951726 [11:39] this does not look like a problem with fglrx as it is the X server segfaulting and not the driver. === vega is now known as vega- [12:48] Greetings. May some of you shed some light on a problem of mine? I need USB-booted Ubuntu 10.10 to not try to initialize one of the hard disks; it has (probably) unreadable partition table (or worse) and ubuntu keeps failing on some DMA reads and won't even go into X mode, stuck in the error loop. Any way I can prevent any attempts to mount it, so that I can do it manually once everything is up..? [12:54] Since upgrading to maverick, my rxvt "refresh rate" has gone down noticiably [12:55] For example new lines entering into this irssi window cause a redraw lasting maybe 0,3-0,5 seconds [13:15] the rc torrents not working ? [13:16] it says requested download is not authorized for use with this tracker. [13:16] downloaded the torrent from http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.10/ [13:26] Hm, seems like gnome-terminal is very slow too. Even just inputting new characters [13:40] Hukka, do you see this gnome-terminal behavior with ubuntu netbook? [13:41] Uh, don't know [13:41] I don't have any netbook remixes installed [13:41] ah, ok [13:41] is it normal to have dozens of updates a day prior to a new release? [13:41] jiohdi, yes :-) [13:41] it does seem to be making things faster at leaset [13:41] least* [13:42] A day before? [13:42] updates a day [13:42] per day [13:42] Whops, sorry :) [13:43] I did not realize it could be easily read both ways [13:44] i have the latest nvidia and xorg version on maverick but somehow the resolution settings just dont get saved [13:44] how i can create new boot partition from current running ubuntu ? [13:44] and which size ? [13:47] sinurge, is it the the wrong resolution or the wrong refresh rate? [13:48] wrong refresh rate, it setting itself to 70 when it should be either 60 or on auto [13:49] hi everyone. i'm going to try out the new ubuntu beta :) [13:50] dto: the rc is just getting release in a couple of minutes/hours [13:50] dto, good thing...let us know how is the experience [13:50] I'd just wait for it to be announced in public [13:50] is it only me or it looks very blurish ? [13:50] and download it then because it is more up to date [13:50] sgh: the readme said release candidate [13:50] okay [13:50] well [13:50] i'm already doing it now :) [13:51] sinurge, bug 640807 [13:51] Launchpad bug 640807 in gnome-settings-daemon (Ubuntu) "Forces low refresh rate on CRT monitor" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/640807 [13:52] sinurge, if you are hit by this one, you can work around it by disabling the gconf key '/apps/gnome_settings_daemon/xrandr/turn_on_external_monitors_at_startup' for the user gdm and your user [13:55] thanks [13:55] will check and update [13:56] anyone else trying unity desktop? === ZNC_shookees is now known as shookees [14:31] Hey, the RC torrent doesnt work: "Requested download is not authorized for use with this tracker" [14:40] hello there, im using lenovo ideapad s10-3, and ubuntu 10.10, with latest updates, n10 familiy graphic controller, an i can't boot any kernel after 2.6.35-18-generic, kernel boots till loadin firmware, that is the point where framebuffer comes up, and then freezes [14:40] do anyone have same problem [14:41] does anyone had that kind of problem [14:43] blah [14:50] anyone in here have any issues with setting up dual monitors after upgrading to 10.10? [14:51] LuckySMack: was seamless for me on an nvidia card. [14:51] ATI [14:52] no, nvidia [14:52] heh [14:52] see how that works? :) [14:53] meh [14:54] but yea, i cant activate my dual monitor, it only lets me mirror them. trying to extend the desktop tells me to log out to apply and when logging back in the monitor is still disabled [15:20] it's possible, 10 days before 10.10 out, quadrapassel don't works [15:23] hi [15:23] nvidia on maverick? (I quite miss having two monitors) [15:23] is it me or the renaming files has changed in nautilus? [15:24] sarmisak: are you using a daily build? [15:24] in 10.04 when I hit F2 it would leave the extension unselected [15:24] but now it selects everything [15:25] krabador, using 10.10, updating frequently [15:25] sarmisak: 10.10 will use gnome 2.32 [15:25] now it's possible you are using it [15:26] nouveau doesn't seem to work for me, and I'm currently using the nv driver, but I'd much rather be running nvidia's driver [15:27] oonh: video driver support isn't really complete until the stable [15:27] krabador, hmm yes it seems so [15:28] sarmisak: surely it's a default gnome change [15:28] Is there even an open-source driver that will work with the GTX460? [15:28] It's a different chip to the 465, 470 and 480 [15:29] krabador, bollocks. I loved that feature, what the heck they were thinking [15:32] sarmisak: until the stable, ubuntu team can correct it [15:32] Ugh, security.ubuntu.com is stalling all the time :( [15:32] Fine on my systems at home, since i have a local mirror [15:32] but i a bit crappy for my remote server... [15:32] krabador, hope so. thank you ;) [15:33] (not a +1 issues though) [15:33] sarmisak: nothing :) === zniavre_ is now known as perceval === perceval is now known as zniavre [16:07] Is anyone else facing this when opening quadrapassel? http://pastebin.com/fpSpQtAS [16:07] It closes instantly [16:08] is this the IRC for maverick support? [16:08] cinnabarisland12, yes [16:08] i saw the final countdown everywhere [16:09] oh gooood, I've run sudo update-manager -d and sudo apt-get upgrade and maverick release candiadte doesn't show up? [16:11] no-one knows why? [16:12] cinnabarisland12: what does "do-release-upgrade -d ; cat ~/.cache/update-manager-core/meta-release|tail [16:12] show? [16:13] cinnabarisland12: aha, its probably /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades - set this to "normal" (or use software-properties-gtk to switch from "lts" to "normal" in the "upgrades" tab [16:14] is the RC out already? [16:14] EvaLuaTe, yes [16:14] neat, thanks :) [16:15] the links on here should be changed to the RC though: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MaverickReleaseSchedule [16:15] I've been monitoring this site to see when it's being released... [16:15] ok the release upgrade jotifications is normal [16:15] *notifications [16:16] maybe it isn't released in the UK yet? [16:17] the RC is not released at all yet [16:17] It will be released later today [16:17] hmm, I can't see it either. Is there any link to the page of the announcement? something like this was for beta: http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/maverick/beta ? [16:18] charlie-tca, ohh, ok then [16:18] Note the topic here. It changes to match the current release of the development version [16:18] ok :)| [16:19] hmmm the Ubuntu website just has the link to the beta but OMG! Ubuntu! posted saying it was out [16:20] They were too early. OMG! Ubuntu does not get to decide, the Ubuntu Release Team does. [16:20] cinnabarisland12: read the topic here. It is not released yet [16:21] orly? [16:21] http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.10/ [16:21] !topic [16:21] Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic [16:22] cinnabarisland12: It's not yet announced and please use a local country mirror such as http://gb.releases.ubuntu.com/10.10/ [16:22] well that sucks [16:24] Some people. [16:24] +1 [16:50] Hello folks. I've just installed the 10.10 beta and it appears grub is failing. It wont load the grub menu. It just sits with the cursor flashing in the top left and I have to hard reset. All I can do is load the live cd and chroot to the drive in a terminal. Has anybody any clue how to fix this? Thankyou! [16:53] MrsB: by default grub now just is supposed to run the latest kernel. to interupt that and get the old grub menu hold RIGHT SHIFT during boot. === bdrung_ is now known as bdrung [16:54] I'll give that a try thanks [16:56] I have fglrx installed from standard repo for 10.10, I have virtual box ose installed from standard repo (no customisations to either of these or manually downloaded versions) If I start VBox X crashes when I move the mouse over it. Everytime. I am getting a segfault. Trace now at http://pastebin.ca/1951726 [16:58] Hmm well its an improvement, I get Grub Loading showing now but it is still not loading [16:58] This is the VBOX Menu, not the actual virtual machine. I dont think any program should be able to crash the X sever, no? [17:00] MrsB, I recomend editing your command line and removing "quiet splash" also try adding -verbose. Also try running the recovery image, I had problems like that with 10.04 and it was because of video drivers. I had to run in text mode and install AMD binary drivers to get it fixed on that box. [17:00] I wish I had that option. I guess I could alter it manually in chroot [17:01] MrsB: i had a similer issue. not fixed it yet. not really tried.. its on a test box. There was some bug report mentioned in here yesterday about it. but i dident jot down the # [17:02] Mine 'died' and it did have the nvidia drivers.. and it was working.. some update seemed to cause the issue.. [17:02] Well, wish me luck :) [17:06] the other day my windows had some funky transparency when not focused, where has that gone? [17:13] No good :( It is using the entire disk as I had problems initially on a dual boot system. I have altered the grub.cfg but it just sits as if its stuck trying to load grub. [17:23] hi [17:24] hi [17:24] I found a critical bug in tar 1.23, if I report it you will put the fixed version in maverick or it's too late? [17:24] Not me no but its probably a good idea to report it though === Scunizi is now known as Izinucs === Izinucs is now known as Scunizi [17:26] FYI https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tar/+bug/652183 [17:26] Launchpad bug 652183 in tar (Ubuntu) "tar 1.23-2 enters dead loop on extracting symlinks with -k option" [Undecided,New] [17:27] I think it's enough critical :) [17:29] Is there a way to make it install with grub instead of grub2? [17:33] I thought they were going to use gnome 3 in maverick? [17:33] LuckySMack: its not in a useable state. [17:33] or so ive heard. [17:33] I dont keep up with the gnomes :) [17:33] yea i thought they were only going to use a part of it or something [17:34] Why rush it.. :) theres always going to be the next release in 6 mo... [17:34] heh [17:34] no i was just curious [17:41] http://imagebin.ca/view/HTncOM.html hi just installed the rc. font rendering seems to be a bit blurred no matter what i do to the Appearance font settings. [17:41] i tried making a new account and all fonts are blurred on that too. [17:41] Hello [17:41] some vertical lines are almost ghosted out [17:42]