[07:45] <didrocks> good morning
[07:46] <RAOF> Howdie didrocks.
[07:46] <didrocks> hey RAOF, how are you?
[07:46] <RAOF> A bit tired.
[07:46] <RAOF> Which sucks; I'm off to see the Dandy Warhols this evening.
[07:47] <didrocks> oh? a bit ill or just tired because ETOOMUCHWORK ?
[07:48] <RAOF> Possibly a bit EINSUFFICIENTEXERCISE
[07:49] <didrocks> heh :)
[07:50] <RAOF> The boot-camp group I went too is taking a break while the trainer has her foot fixed.
[07:50] <RAOF> And it's been cold and rainy and I don't want to go outside :)
[07:52] <TheMuso> Rain does make it harder to get motivated.
[07:55] <didrocks> rainy? come on, it's the spring for you :)
[07:55] <TheMuso> Yes, but we both live at almost opposite ends of the country./
[07:56] <RAOF> Opposite ends of the country?
[07:56] <RAOF> You're less than half-way up! :)
[07:56] <TheMuso> Hense the almost.
[08:17] <RAOF> Ok.  I've now got a fix for bug #561734 that's small, safe, and upstream.
[08:17] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 561734 in mesa (Ubuntu) (and 2 other projects) "quadrapassel doesn't start: Failed to initialise clutter: Unable to select the newly created GLX context (affects: 27) (dups: 7) (heat: 150)" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/561734
[08:19] <RAOF> Since this affects mesa on the CDs, does this get uploaded post RC or as a zero-day SRU?
[08:21] <didrocks> I would say mesa  + release note, but I'll let expert answers :)
[08:21] <RAOF> You mean “post-RC upload + release note”?
[08:22] <RAOF> I'll probably prod the pitti anyway ;)
[08:24] <didrocks> oupss
[08:24] <didrocks> post release :)
[08:35] <Riddell> didrocks: for lack of rick and lack of seb are you qualified to sign off ubuntu desktop and/or netbook for RC release?
[08:35] <didrocks> Riddell: I think for netbook, I can, seb will be there in 30 minutes I think if needed
[08:38] <Riddell> didrocks: netbook has two failures reported, from your own mterry no less.  there have been no successful OEM installs.  do you want it released?
[08:39] <didrocks> Riddell: ok, first failure isn't a real one and affects desktop as well (having to type "ubuntu" in gdm)
[08:39] <didrocks> Riddell: let me try an OEM basic setup
[08:45] <pitti> RAOF: if it's a focussed fix, please go ahead and upload it
[08:45] <pitti> (to maverick)
[08:45] <pitti> if it'll look too invasive, we can still reject it, and reupload to -proposed
[08:45] <RAOF> pitti: Thanks.
[08:47] <didrocks> good morning pitti, how are you?
[08:47] <RAOF> Therefore, I now start trawling for sponsors for mesa-7.9~git20100924-0ubuntu2 on http://cooperteam.net/Packages/
[08:53] <pitti> didrocks: much better, thanks
[08:53] <pitti> didrocks:  how are you?
[08:53] <pitti> how is the testing going?
[08:53] <didrocks> pitti: nice to hear :)
[08:53] <seb128> didrocks, mvo: no need to fight over who will fix gnome-keyring :p
[08:53] <seb128> hey didrocks pitti
[08:54] <didrocks> seb128: hehe, right, salut! ;)
[08:54] <pitti> I installed the netbook iso on my Mini 10, went flawlessly
[08:54] <pitti> I really like the jockey integration
[08:54] <pitti> wifi just works
[08:54] <pitti> hey seb128
[08:54] <didrocks> pitti: tests are good, just confirmed UNE OEM install now and I'm fine as well :)
[08:56] <didrocks> pitti: can you please sync bug #651266 ?
[08:56] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 651266 in totem-plugin-arte (Ubuntu) "Sync totem-plugin-arte 0.9.2-1 (universe) from Debian experimental (main) (affects: 2) (heat: 16)" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/651266
[08:56] <didrocks> I don't know, I should miss something with syncrequest, but yesterday at 11PM, it was still telling me "debian experimental doesn't have 0.9.2-1 but 0.9.1-1"
[08:56] <mvo> seb128: hey
[08:57] <mvo> seb128: already done
[08:57] <didrocks> I noticed also a lot of lag when trying to sync openchange, samba4 and such
[08:57] <seb128> mvo, thanks!
[08:57] <didrocks> but apparently this bug report was already opened before
[08:57] <seb128> it was on my list for this morning
[08:57] <didrocks> so, I don't use the right cache it seems :)
[08:57] <seb128> but I should sleep less to beat mvo at bug fixing :-p
[08:57] <didrocks> seb128: yeah, "don't sleep" seems to be the solution :)
[08:59] <mvo> seb128: haha
[08:59] <mvo> seb128: get some kids, they keep you awake at night!
[08:59] <seb128> ;-)
[08:59]  * seb128 hugs mvo
[08:59]  * mvo hugs seb128
[09:00] <bilalakhtar> seb128: You appear to be the delegated person for managing freeze exceptions for GNOME packages. I am currently updating Anjuta. Do I need a Final Freeze exception?
[09:01] <seb128> bilalakhtar, updating to what version?
[09:01] <bilalakhtar> seb128: 2.32
[09:01] <seb128> 2.30 to 2.32 now?
[09:01] <bilalakhtar> *stable*
[09:01] <seb128> there is no way
[09:01] <bilalakhtar> why?
[09:01] <seb128> there was a work in progress vcs for it but build was breaking due to gir issues
[09:02] <bilalakhtar> hm
[09:02] <seb128> why?!
[09:02] <bilalakhtar> okay, you mean late in the cycle :(
[09:02] <bilalakhtar> and some issues :(
[09:02] <seb128> review the diff between 2.30 and 2.32
[09:02] <seb128> and tell me if that's a postrc diff
[09:02] <bilalakhtar> 'kay, I agree
[09:03] <seb128> restart, be back in some minutes
[09:13] <Riddell> seb128: rick isn't around, are you able to sign off on ubuntu desktop for RC?
[09:13] <seb128> sign off? like ack that the images are release quality?
[09:13] <seb128> pitti, ^ can you help ;-)
[09:14] <Riddell> yes
[09:15] <pitti> I didn't really follow the release closely; how do the testing bugs look like?
[09:16] <seb128> I'm not sure of the standard process
[09:16] <seb128> I would though that the r-t decide of that, does rick sign off as well usually?
[09:17] <Riddell> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/MaverickMeerkat/ReleaseManifest says it's rick's sign off
[09:18] <seb128> ok
[09:18] <seb128> I assume he will be fine if I ack it instead of him
[09:18] <Riddell> I assume so too
[09:18] <seb128> ok, I sign off then
[09:18] <Riddell> you have three failures reported on iso tracker and a few serious bugs
[09:18] <seb128> I've been watching the qa tracker, IRC and bugs
[09:19] <Riddell> groovy
[09:19] <seb128> we don't have any stopper bug that is showing up anyway
[09:19] <seb128> anyway -> anywhere
[09:19] <seb128> yes, one is a radeon issue specific to one card
[09:19] <seb128> one is a software-center issue I don't think it's an install blocker
[09:19] <seb128> and the other one is labelled "OK now"
[09:20] <seb128> Riddell, I guess you need UNE signing as well?
[09:20] <seb128> didrocks, did you follow the UNE rc state?
[09:21] <Riddell> he said he was doing one more test install
[09:22] <seb128> ok, I got the iso meanwhile so I will do one as well
[09:22] <didrocks> seb128: yeah, I just finished the OEM one
[09:22] <didrocks> seb128: nothing to worry about for me
[09:23] <seb128> didrocks, if my install doesn't work you will hear the whip so be warned ;-)
[09:23] <didrocks>  /quit run awayyyyyyy
[09:23] <didrocks> :)
[09:23] <seb128> lol
[09:23] <seb128> the 2 red bugs on the tracker seem non blockers
[09:24] <didrocks> OEM setup is working fine there as well!
[09:24] <didrocks> yeah
[09:24] <seb128> one is a font issue where the guy forgot the screenshot
[09:24] <seb128> the other one is from mterry and turn out to be a bios thing
[09:24] <seb128> didrocks, so you consider UNE rc validated?
[09:24] <didrocks> it should be set as invalid, isn't it?
[09:24] <seb128> didrocks, if you read the bug he let the decision to the ubiquity team
[09:24] <didrocks> I consider it validated, right
[09:25] <seb128> Riddell, UNE signed off
[09:25] <seb128> didrocks, bug #651098
[09:25] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 651098 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Launcher says "Ubuntu-Netbook" but should say "Ubuntu Netbook Edition" (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/651098
[09:26] <seb128> do you consider that an issue to fix after rc?
[09:26] <didrocks> seb128: I think it will be fixed with a pending bamf upload
[09:26] <seb128> ok
[09:26] <didrocks> seb128: but need to be checked, I'm tracking it on my list
[09:27] <seb128> ok
[09:27] <seb128> didrocks, did you notice the unity crash bug there?
[09:27] <didrocks> (will not fix in ubiquity of course, will just fix it in the launcher)
[09:27] <Riddell> seb128: lovely thanks
[09:28] <seb128> Riddell, thank you for getting the RC out ;-)
[09:28] <didrocks> seb128: bug #649328
[09:28] <ubot2> didrocks: Bug 649328 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/649328 is private
[09:28] <didrocks> right?
[09:28] <Riddell> well it's no done yet, still some publishing commands to get my head around first
[09:29] <seb128> didrocks, yes
[09:29] <didrocks> seb128: neil is looking at it
[09:29] <seb128> Riddell, I should have said "driving the RC during the week" ;-)
[09:29] <seb128> in any case great work
[09:30] <seb128> didrocks, ok
[09:45] <Riddell> seb128, didrocks: please check version numbers and text on https://wiki.kubuntu.org/MaverickMeerkat/TechnicalOverview
[09:45] <didrocks> Riddell: sure
[09:45] <seb128> Riddell, shouldn't that be on the ubuntu wiki? ;-)
[09:46] <seb128> Riddell,
[09:46] <seb128> "The GNOME base platform has been updated to the current 2.31 versions"
[09:46] <didrocks> Riddell: hum, is the link you gave me two days ago?
[09:46] <didrocks> I remember to edit it…
[09:46] <seb128> -> to 2.32
[09:46] <Riddell> didrocks: I think I gave you e-mail announcement, this is for the ubuntu.com website
[09:47] <didrocks> Riddell: oh ok, so, I'll copy and paste the content there
[09:47] <seb128> Riddell, "note that due to a change to the Twitter service, Gwibber will not work with Twitter until updates are applied. "
[09:47] <seb128> wasn"t that fixed?
[09:47] <seb128> "# It is not possible to create Ubuntu 10.04 USB disks from the Startup Disk Creator in Ubuntu 10.10 due to a backwards incompatibility in the syslinux program. "
[09:47] <seb128> same with that?
[09:48] <seb128> in fact the usb-creater issue fixed might have been the other way around, lucid failing to write maverick isos
[09:49] <seb128> Riddell, other that GNOME being 2.32 I think everything is ok
[09:52] <Riddell> I haven't updated the known issues except for Kubuntu
[09:52] <didrocks> seb128: do you want me to edit it? I'm already changing some parts
[09:53] <seb128> didrocks, yes please
[09:55] <didrocks> seb128: usb-creator has been updated in lucid to write maverick isos
[09:56] <didrocks> so, I removed that one as well
[09:56] <seb128> I know, but is the other way around broken?
[09:56] <seb128> ie can maverick write lucid keys?
[09:56] <seb128> not that I care much, just wondering if the known issues need a refresh
[09:56] <pitti> seb128: should be working
[09:56] <seb128> some seem outdated
[09:56] <pitti> it got a test for which syslinux version is on the image now
[11:14] <seb128> bah
[11:18] <seb128> unity places on small screen is a fail
[11:18] <seb128> the category list goes out of screen
[11:29] <didrocks> seb128: in French, right? bug #644275 and njpatel is working on it
[11:29] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 644275 in unity-place-files (Ubuntu) (and 5 other projects) "The Places and Applications tabs should cater for localized text longer than the English ones (affects: 1) (heat: 524)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/644275
[11:29] <njpatel> I don't know why we need to support French in the first place
[11:29] <njpatel> your close enough to England to just speak English
[11:30]  * njpatel knows he's risking no more uploads of Unity
[11:31] <seb128> njpatel, the bug is about spannish
[11:31] <seb128> njpatel, you would do that do dpm would you? ;-)
[11:31] <seb128> njpatel, or to ara
[11:31] <didrocks> yeah, but njpatel doesn't care about anyone not using an UI in english :-)
[11:31]  * didrocks thinks will have troubles at next UDS
[11:31] <didrocks> neil*
[11:32] <dpm> :-)
[11:32] <njpatel> seb128, no, I'll fix for everyone else, just have a if (g_strcmp (get_locale (), "fr_FR.utf8") == 0) { set_locale ("en_GB.utf8"); }
[11:32] <njpatel> didrocks, heh :)
[11:34] <didrocks> seb128: its like the places which weren't localized. I had to threat him with distropatching the "Files and Folders" to "Dossiers et Fichiers" to fix it :-) (for everyone of course, but who cares?) :-)
[11:34] <seb128> njpatel, be careful I might just cp fr.po en_GB.po before uploading
[11:34] <dpm> nice one :)
[11:34] <njpatel> lol, the set_locale ("C")....try and beat that :)
[11:34] <njpatel> then*
[11:34] <seb128> ;-)
[11:35] <njpatel> unless you distropatch Unity to use French by default, like didrocks was threatening to do :)
[11:35] <dpm> we can always do as with yelp and copy en@shaw to en...
[11:35] <didrocks> njpatel: well, it's a fix :-)
[11:35] <didrocks> dpm: nice one ;)
[12:12] <Riddell> didrocks: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/MaverickMeerkat/RCAnnouncement still needs version number updated
[12:13] <didrocks> Riddell: I was thinking it was refreshed from the other one (stripping the "known issues" part). doing the same as well then
[12:13] <Riddell> no, nothing so clever
[12:14] <didrocks> Riddell: ok then ;) done
[12:16] <didrocks> Riddell: just added a last note on both if possible?
[12:16] <didrocks> Riddell: (for indicator-datetime)
[12:18] <didrocks> Riddell: done
[12:29] <chrisccoulson> mvo - i just had this policykit dialog hang again for the first time in a while
[12:29] <chrisccoulson> i attached gdb to it
[12:29] <chrisccoulson> and there are 2 threads
[12:30] <chrisccoulson> the first thread is running the main loop and processing events normally
[12:30] <chrisccoulson> the second thread is blocked in a read() call
[12:30] <chrisccoulson> and there is no polkit-agent-helper-1 process running
[12:42] <mvo> chrisccoulson: many thanks, james_w is more on top of this than me, but I will still have  alook
[13:10] <chrisccoulson> mvo - so, i can see a situation where if polkit-agent-helper-1 exits quickly, the dialog will hang
[13:11] <chrisccoulson> james_w - you might be interested in my last 2 comments too
[13:47] <james_w> chrisccoulson: bug 649939
[13:47] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 649939 in software-center (Ubuntu) "authentication popup does nothing when installating new software (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/649939
[13:49] <james_w> is that the same thing you found?
[13:49] <james_w> I'm not sure which bug you commented on?
[13:54] <chrisccoulson> james_w - yeah, basically
[13:55] <james_w> any ideas for a fix?
[13:55] <james_w> perhaps not removing the stdout watch when the child exits, and waiting for the close event to remove it?
[13:56] <chrisccoulson> i'm just looking at your last comment, and gdb showed pretty much the same thing as your analysis (ie, child exits, but the read() call never returns)
[13:58] <chrisccoulson> brb
[14:21] <seb128> pitti, do you remember why you limited the g_key gettext fetching to the desktop group keys?
[14:22] <pitti> seb128: I think we had a case where the indicator shortcuts got translated that way
[14:22] <seb128> no, that's what we are discussing with dx guys
[14:22] <pitti> or maybe that was for the cdbs snippet
[14:22] <seb128> the unity places are not translated due to that
[14:22] <seb128> and ted did some gettext hacks in the indicator for the actions
[14:23] <seb128> hum, maybe I misread what you wrote
[14:23] <seb128> you mean we did limit to avoid side effect on other things?
[14:23] <seb128> or that it should work on other groups?
[14:24] <seb128> pitti, I'm trying to figure if the strcmp (group_name, G_KEY_FILE_DESKTOP_GROUP)
[14:24] <seb128> has a reason
[14:24] <seb128> or if we could drop it
[14:24] <seb128> but I guess that will be for next cycle anyway
[14:25] <pitti> seb128: not sure, has it always been there? bzr blame?
[14:25] <seb128> it has yes
[14:25] <seb128> we didn't had really case out of the desktop group before
[14:25] <pitti> but I'm a bit afraid of catching other groups which shouldn't be translated
[14:25] <seb128> ok
[14:26] <seb128> njpatel is working on a fix on the unity side
[14:28] <seb128> waouh, uploaded going through
[14:28] <njpatel> Les fichiers et répertoires!!
[14:28] <seb128> njpatel, it's working? ;-)
[14:28] <njpatel> yeah :)
[14:28] <njpatel> thanks ted!
[14:28] <seb128> njpatel, you are made of awesome
[14:28]  * seb128 hugs njpatel & ted
[14:29] <seb128> njpatel, can you give the diff to didrocks so he can get it in?
[14:29] <seb128> seems we just unfroze from RC
[14:29] <njpatel> pushing to trunk now, hold up
[14:29] <didrocks> njpatel: you took seb128's mo file, you didn't like mine :p
[14:29]  * didrocks is sad!
[14:29] <seb128> lol
[14:30] <njpatel> didrocks,  lol, sorry
[14:30] <njpatel> didrocks, rev 565 has it
[14:30] <njpatel> we should make a note of this somewhere
[14:30] <didrocks> njpatel: great, pullling and trying
[14:30] <didrocks> njpatel: not sure, I'll upload this evening with your other fixes :)
[14:31] <njpatel> evening! you said tomorrow morning! :)
[14:33] <seb128> njpatel, never trust the frenchs!
[14:33] <njpatel> I should no that, but I keep trusting in the entent cordiale
[14:33] <njpatel> know*
[14:33] <njpatel> :)
[14:40]  * didrocks knows now that I shouldn't tell "at the latest/worst case" to dx team as it's taken as the real deadline :p
[14:42] <seb128> lol
[14:43] <kenvandine> didrocks, hehe... so true
[14:44] <didrocks> it's like when you build your house, "with how much delay"? ;)
[14:44] <njpatel> didrocks, you better believe it is. So releases tomorrow evening, right?
[14:44]  * njpatel read somewhere that archive will be open quite late ;)
[14:44] <didrocks> njpatel: whatttttt?
[14:44] <didrocks> njpatel: don't even try :)
[14:44] <njpatel> i need to be a coredev
[14:44] <njpatel> this would be so much easier
[14:45] <njpatel> dput ubuntu unity_daily_build
[14:45] <didrocks> njpatel: well, you need to be a release team member too for acking the upload during freeze :)
[14:45] <njpatel> so, I need to get onto the LP team for a cycle, add me to all the relevant teams, and then come back to DX so  I can upload as I need
[14:45] <kenvandine> hehe
[14:45] <didrocks> njpatel: just scp your locally build deb to the archive and regenerates the index manually, it will be faster… :)
[14:45] <didrocks> built*
[14:46] <njpatel> didrocks, nice, that sounds easier
[14:49] <didrocks> njpatel: the good news it that your patch is working. I won't have to force everyone to use French :)
[14:49] <njpatel> awesome!
[14:58] <seb128> didrocks, you might maybe want to upload that one to start
[14:58] <seb128> just to be sure it gets in and not blocked because tomorrow is late for another update
[14:58] <didrocks> seb128: sure can do then
[15:02] <mterry> seb128, need any particular desktop/release help?  I have quickly stuff I can work on, but it's not urgent
[15:03] <seb128> mterry, not especially no, nautilus-sendto nautilus-sendto gtksourceview2 still have updates which we could do
[15:03] <seb128> but it's "would be nice to get", nothing important
[15:03] <seb128> you can do those if you want or do the things you had on your list
[15:03] <mterry> seb128, I filed updates for those
[15:04] <mterry> let me dig up merge urls
[15:04] <seb128> mterry, I will get those
[15:04] <mterry> k
[15:04] <seb128> https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~mterry/ list them
[15:04] <mterry> ah sure
[15:04] <seb128> it's just that we don't get any notification about merge request
[15:05] <seb128> thanks
[15:05] <mterry> seb128, oh really?  whoops, would have pinged ya
[15:05] <mterry> seb128, (seems bad...  is that a bug?)
[15:05] <seb128> well it's just that you need to specifically subscribe to thos events
[15:05] <seb128> but historically we are just subcribed to bugs on those components
[15:06] <seb128> we need to eventually fix that in some way not sure how though
[15:06] <seb128> mterry, https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~mterry/brasero/ubuntu-2.32.0/+merge/37044
[15:06] <seb128> I guess that one should be closed
[15:07] <seb128> mterry, the other one was merged 21 hours ago you probably didn't notice it
[15:07] <seb128> or I forgot to push? let me check
[15:07] <mterry> seb128, hrm...   I don't see an update in launchpad
[15:07] <mterry> seb128, but that page has a 0-line diff?  Something odd
[15:08] <seb128> mterry, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/brasero/ubuntu/revision/103
[15:08] <seb128> mterry, well the upload is still in unapproved
[15:08] <seb128> but I pushed the changes to the vcs and uploaded
[15:08] <mterry> seb128, sweet.  ah right.  OK, so I'll close my branch
[15:08] <mterry> seb128, thanks
[15:08] <seb128> yw
[15:12] <chrisccoulson> james_w - urgh, i just tried running polkit-gnome-authentication-agent through strace, and got the dialog to hang before even showing the password text entry ;)
[15:13] <seb128> mterry, bug #596171
[15:13] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 596171 in libindicator (and 2 other projects) "Provide GTK+ 3.0 version of libappindicator (affects: 1) (heat: 4)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/596171
[15:13] <seb128> I'm not sure to understand your point
[15:14] <mterry> seb128, let's take my project deja-dup as an example.  If I port deja-dup to gtk3, I *can't* use libindicator built against gtk2.  But if I don't port, I *can't* use libindicator built against gtk3.  So libindicator needs to provide two libraries, one for gtk2 and one for gtk3
[15:14] <seb128> right
[15:14] <seb128> what I was saying is that libindicator should let you pick the gtk to use
[15:14] <seb128> then the packaging would do 2 builds
[15:14] <seb128> one with each gtk version
[15:14] <mterry> Oh, that's fine then yeah
[15:15] <mterry> I didn't grok that you meant 2 builds
[15:15] <mterry> I'll add comment then
[15:16] <seb128> I've no strong opinion though on whether we should support gtk2 builds next cycle for the next version
[15:16] <seb128> but I guess we want the current version to build with both gtk according to what is available for a while
[15:16] <seb128> it's ted who decide what he wants to do at the end though
[15:18] <seb128> kenvandine, there?
[15:18] <kenvandine> hey seb128
[15:18] <seb128> hey kenvandine
[15:18] <seb128> kenvandine, we are unfrozen for RC, everything fine from your side?
[15:18] <kenvandine> yeah
[15:18] <seb128> did you have anything you still wanted to get in?
[15:19] <seb128> I'm just checking we don't miss anythintg
[15:19] <seb128> -t
[15:19] <kenvandine> one sec
[15:19] <seb128> sure
[15:20] <kenvandine> ok, just gwibber which is in unapproved still, i assume that will get reviewed soon
[15:20] <kenvandine> and i know the U1 guys really want desktopcouch to go in
[15:20] <seb128> yes, everything uploaded is getting reviewed
[15:20] <kenvandine> which is also uploaded
[15:20] <seb128> I think the current queue will go in
[15:20] <kenvandine> nothing else
[15:20] <seb128> ok great
[15:20] <kenvandine> thx :)
[15:20] <seb128> kenvandine, thanks
[16:05] <seb128> didrocks, do you have some time for sponsoring?
[16:05] <didrocks> seb128: sure, I'm on the way of updating indicator-network and I can sponsor then
[16:06] <seb128> ok, I might ping you in a bit ;-)
[16:06] <didrocks> sure :-)
[17:08] <dpm> pitti, Riddell, I've just spoken to danilo to schedule a one-off full language pack export starting at 22:00 UTC (same time as the usual exports).
[17:08] <dpm> as per yesterday's conversation
[17:08] <pitti> dpm: ah, thanks; so I guess I can start the langpack builds tomorrow morning
[17:08] <pitti> dpm: do you know how long they take these days?
[17:09] <pitti> well, I'll just check the +langpacks page tomorrow, nevermind
[17:09] <dpm> pitti, ok!
[17:09] <Riddell> dpm: thanks, I uploaded those .po files again an hour ago so hopefully they'll be in
[17:10] <pitti> dpm: oh, do I need to tick the "full export" checkbox again, or did you already?
[17:11] <dpm> pitti, no need to this time afaik (I didn't), but let me check with danilo to be sure
[17:22] <dpm> pitti, danilo had already ticked the box, so we should be all good
[17:34] <seb128> chrisccoulson, hey
[17:34] <seb128> how busy are you?
 didrocks, could you aleast add this http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-keyring/commit/?id=d9ef94455d115d8fed29a3071b5b19ca632fb932
[17:38] <seb128> ^ is somebody wanting to testbuild and backport that?
[17:43] <bilalakhtar> seb128: can I help in that?
[17:43] <seb128> I guess you can if you get the issue or what to backport it
[17:44] <seb128> the issue is that the ssh key is not unlocked on login it seems
[17:57] <james_w> chrisccoulson: urgh, that's odd
[17:57] <james_w> chrisccoulson: did you suid strace?
[18:09] <glatzor> huhu mvo
[18:09] <glatzor> mvo, busy?
[18:09] <seb128> bilalakhtar, do you work on it?
[18:11] <Laney> seb128: is that the one you showed me the other day?
[18:11] <Laney> If so, that didn't fix it
[18:12] <seb128> I think it was
[18:12] <cyphermox> seb128, is there a bug open for this? I'm wondering how to reproduce
[18:12] <seb128> ricotz, ^
[18:12] <Laney> let me just try it
[18:12] <seb128> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=627815
[18:12] <seb128> cyphermox, ^
[18:12] <ubot2> Gnome bug 627815 in general "gnome-keyring ssh agent doesn't unlock ssh keys anymore" [Normal,Resolved: fixed]
[18:13] <seb128> Laney, thanks
[18:13] <seb128> didrocks, ^ can you sponsor something if there is any need?
[18:13] <seb128> I need to run in a few minutes
[18:13] <didrocks> seb128: sure :)
[18:13] <seb128> thanks
[18:13] <didrocks> seb128: I'll go away soon as well, but not reconnect, so maybe there won't be enough time
[18:14] <seb128> didrocks, well tomorrow will do otherwise
[18:14] <seb128> or chrisccoulson can maybe pick up the sponsoring later if he's around
[18:14] <didrocks> seb128: enjoy and see you tomorrow!
[18:14] <Laney> building
[18:14] <seb128> didrocks, thanks, you as well
[18:14] <didrocks> thanks!
[18:16] <chrisccoulson> hi!
[18:16] <chrisccoulson> yeah, i can probably do some sponsoring ;)
[18:16] <Laney> mmm sponsoring
[18:19] <seb128> bbl
[18:20] <Laney> worked
[18:21] <mvo> glatzor: I was having dinner
[18:43] <ricotz> Laney, do you made a patched gnome-keyring package?
[18:43] <Laney> oh yeah that's what i was doing
[18:44] <Laney> i have dch open... just got distracted :)
[18:44] <ricotz> ;)
[18:44] <ricotz> Laney, i can test it if you want
[18:46] <Laney> cool, 1s
[18:48] <Laney> ricotz: is there a launchpad bug?
[18:48] <ricotz> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-keyring/+bug/631980
[18:48] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 631980 in gnome-keyring (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "gnome-keyring doesn't unlock ssh key (affects: 7) (dups: 1) (heat: 188)" [Low,Fix committed]
[18:48] <Laney> ty
[18:49] <Laney> ricotz: i386?
[18:49] <ricotz> amd64
[18:49] <Laney> even better
[18:49] <Laney> here goes
[18:49] <ricotz> i also could build it here
[18:57] <ricotz> Laney, it is ok if you put the source somewhere
[18:57] <Laney> it's uploading now
[18:59] <Laney> http://people.ubuntu.com/~laney/gnome-keyring/
[19:01] <Laney> ricotz:
[19:01] <ricotz> i am on it
[19:03] <ricotz> brb
[19:06] <ricotz> Laney, works for me :)
[19:06] <Laney> cool
[19:06] <Laney> didrocks: could you sponsor ubuntu4 from ^^^?
[19:07] <Laney> I forgot to dch -R "" but you can handle that :)
[19:07] <didrocks> I know I should have quite 20s before :)
[19:07] <didrocks> quit*
[19:07] <Laney> quick, pretend you were never here!
[19:07] <didrocks> Laney: sure, doing so :)
[19:07] <didrocks>  /quit lalalala
[19:07] <didrocks> :)
[19:07] <didrocks> Laney: hum, don't we have a branch for gnome-keyring?
[19:08] <hyperair> didrocks: what's /usr/share/une?
[19:08] <didrocks> hyperair: it's added to XDG_DATA_PATH in UNE session
[19:08] <didrocks> to change default .desktop files
[19:08] <hyperair> didrocks: ah i see.
[19:08] <hyperair> didrocks: i'm actually trying to merge as much as i can into the debian package.
[19:09] <Laney> didrocks: dunno, not used to using those
[19:09] <hyperair> didrocks: i figured UNe was to do with ubuntu netbook edition or something?
[19:09] <didrocks> Laney: can you please propose a merge against lp:~ubuntu-desktop/gnome-keyring/ubuntu ?
[19:09] <didrocks> hyperair: right
[19:09] <Laney> sure, but it will have to wait until tomorrow
[19:09] <Laney> leaving in 30 seconds
[19:09] <didrocks> Laney: no worry :)
[19:09] <didrocks> Laney: that can wait for tomorrow
[19:09] <Laney> or ricotz can do it
[19:09] <didrocks> I'll leave as well ;)
[19:10] <didrocks> hyperair: there are many tweaks to handle a desktop and a une session
[19:10] <didrocks> (made in a standard way to handle a "foo" session as well)
[19:10] <hyperair> didrocks: so which of the patches should i leave out of debian?
[19:10] <didrocks> hyperair: can we have a look tomorrow? I really need to leave of my gf will be angry :)
[19:10] <hyperair> haha okay sure
[19:10] <didrocks> I'll make a list for sure :)
[19:10]  * didrocks finishes email and quit
[19:11]  * Laney off too, have a good evening
[19:11] <didrocks> enjoy your evening Laney!
[19:12] <hyperair> hmm come to think of it all the patches look upstreamable, and only one thing was changed via the .install file
[19:12] <hyperair> i think i'll leave the .install file be and throw the patches into debian then
[19:14] <didrocks> hyperair: nice, we talk about that tomorrow if you want
[19:16] <didrocks> really off now
[19:16] <didrocks> enjoy your evening everyone :)
[19:17] <hyperair> it's morning here.
[19:42] <ricotz> Laney, i proposed the gnome-keyring merge
[20:07] <chrisccoulson> ricotz, i can't merge your changes because you upgraded your branch ;)
[20:07] <chrisccoulson> (or launchpad did that for you)
[20:08] <ricotz> chrisccoulson, hmm, didnt upgrade it, so must be done automatically
[20:08] <chrisccoulson> yeah, i think launchpad sucks like that
[20:08] <ricotz> can i downgrade it?
[20:17] <chrisccoulson> ricotz, you can't. it doesn't matter though, i've just merged the changes in manually
[20:17] <chrisccoulson> just building it now, and will upload it once i've tested it
[20:18] <ricotz> chrisccoulson, thanks
[20:47] <chrisccoulson> ricotz / Laney - gnome-keyring is uploaded now
[20:47] <chrisccoulson> thanks!
[21:04] <mahmoh> I'm running Maverick and getting continuous Nautilus crashes and endless open (phantom) windows and my cpu is maxed (I'm upset)
[21:05] <mahmoh> unsure where to find out why it's doing this and what's causing it exactly, if I rename nautilus it stop immediately though, any help would be appreciated
[21:09] <milanbv> mahmoh: Apport should file an automated report...
[21:10] <mahmoh> milanbv: apport isn't getting triggerred though, I'm trying manually
[21:12] <milanbv> mahmoh: please do
[21:13] <mahmoh> milanbv: is there a log that I can check to find out what it thinks the problem is?
[21:14] <milanbv> mahmoh: have a look at /var/crash
[21:14] <milanbv> there may be some Apport files that weren't used for some reason
[21:15] <mahmoh> milanbv: no luck there
[21:15] <milanbv> mahmoh: so see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash?action=show&redirect=DebuggingProgramCrashes
[21:15] <mahmoh> milanbv: thx
[21:17] <milanbv> mahmoh: when you've done step 4, just run "sudo apt-get install libglib2.0-0-dbg libgtk2.0-0-dbg nautilus-dbg"
[21:19] <milanbv> mahmoh: and then, follow instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Backtrace
[21:19] <milanbv> then report a bug with the trace, if that's not enough people will tell you
[21:21] <mahmoh> milanbv: ok, I'll do my best
[21:28] <cyphermox> milanbv, I suspect apport crash catching may have been disabled
[21:29] <milanbv> cyphermox: I thought it was enabled until the final release?
[21:29] <milanbv> obviously, I could have tried that before the "hard way"
[21:29] <cyphermox> milanbv, we're getting awefully close ;)
[21:29] <milanbv> mahmoh: you have another solution then
[21:30] <mahmoh> milanbv: what's that?
[21:30] <cyphermox> mahmoh, just run 'ubuntu-bug `pidof nautilus`'
[21:31] <milanbv> ah, I was going to suggest 'sudo service apport start force_start=1'
[21:31] <mahmoh> milanbv: cyphermox: I ran apport-cli, saved the file, added it a hand-made bug (it's hard to get the pid of a continuously crashing nautilus
[21:31] <mahmoh> ;)
[21:32] <milanbv> mahmoh: so Apport eventually started on its own?
[21:32] <milanbv> what bug number?
[21:33] <mahmoh> 652392? milanbv
[21:33] <mahmoh> yeah that's it
[21:34] <milanbv> mahmoh: there's no backtrace there sadly
[21:34] <milanbv> run 'sudo service apport start force_start=1'
[21:34] <milanbv> and then reproduce the crash
[21:34] <milanbv> it should be enough
[21:34] <james_w> chrisccoulson: how does http://paste.ubuntu.com/503484/ look?
[21:35] <milanbv> mahmoh: BTW, you should upgrade packages first, else Apport won't accept to report a bug
[21:35] <mahmoh> milanbv: I've been continous;y upgrading (hoping that it would fix itself)
[21:35] <mahmoh> milanbv: apport is running already
[21:36] <milanbv> but you have 2.31.6, and up to date version is 2.32.0
[21:36] <milanbv> it won't work ;-)
[21:36] <mahmoh> milanbv: I ran update and upgrade, what else is there?
[21:36] <milanbv> mahmoh: run it again
[21:36] <milanbv> maybe the package appeared today...
[21:37] <milanbv> mahmoh: if you run via command line, do a dist-upgrade maybe
[21:37] <mahmoh> milanbv: that's prob. it ...
[21:42] <mahmoh> milanbv: that did it, it's running better already, thank you very much - my cpu and fan thank you too
[22:23] <seb128> chrisccoulson, do you have upload rights for gnome-keyring?
[22:23] <chrisccoulson> seb128 - done already :)
[22:24] <seb128> chrisccoulson, thanks
[22:24] <seb128> https://code.launchpad.net/~ricotz/gnome-keyring/ubuntu/+merge/37173
[22:24] <seb128> I got an email about that but no email about it being merged or uploaded
[22:24] <chrisccoulson> james_w - did you figure out what the problem was? it's not clear to me what problem your patch solves
[22:24] <chrisccoulson> seb128 - ah, i need to mark the branch as merged
[22:24] <chrisccoulson> i couldn't merge it properly as the branches are different versions
[22:25] <seb128> chrisccoulson, that's usually done when you push the commit
[22:25] <seb128> oh ok
[22:25] <james_w> chrisccoulson: when the child watch fires before the stdout watch it doesn't fire the "completed" signal. Doing this means that the child handler will allow any other events to be processed first, e.g. the stdout one, and so the event is fired
[22:26] <james_w> I'm not sure it's the best approach, as it may still be racy, but it works for jibel
[22:26] <chrisccoulson> james_w - ah, interesting. yeah, that makes sense
[22:27] <chrisccoulson> b'ah, my laptop has ground to a halt again :/
[22:27] <chrisccoulson> i've just ordered an extra 2GB or RAM, i hope it omproves it slightly
[22:31] <seb128> chrisccoulson, seems there is something weird on maverick I don't remember lucid having those issues
[22:32] <chrisccoulson> yeah, it seems pretty bad at the moment
[22:32] <james_w> is it under heavy I/O load that it slows down?
[22:33] <james_w> e.g. two concurrent package builds?
[22:33] <chrisccoulson> james_w - yeah, it pretty much stops under any I/O load
[22:33] <chrisccoulson> a package build along with dpkg running is especially painful
[22:33] <seb128> james_w, normal io load I would say
[22:33] <james_w> yeah, I've had that for ages, I thought it was getting better
[22:33] <chrisccoulson> it can take over an hour to install a few packages when doing that
[22:33] <seb128> like a gtk build after a while slow down a lot and slow the system
[22:34] <chrisccoulson> it took me 1.5 hours to build telepathy-glib yesterday when i tried to build it in parallel with firefox ;)
[22:34] <seb128> it makes second before I can open something during the second half of the build
[22:34] <kklimonda> I've started running high i/o tasks with ionice -c 3 lately - especially unpacking stuff
[22:35] <chrisccoulson> heh, i might try that
[22:56] <davmor2> seb128: Are you about still?
[22:59] <seb128> hi
[22:59] <seb128> you should just ask your question
[22:59] <seb128> even if I'm not around other people might reply
[23:02] <davmor2> seb128: Good point,  in the new gnome settings applications is there one that would effect wireless?  I ask as if I unplug my power on my netbook my wifi won't connect
[23:03] <seb128> not that I know about
[23:03] <davmor2> I plug the power back in and it connects first time
[23:04] <cyphermox> davmor2, booting with power disconnected, if you connect it mid-session does NM then start to bring up the wifi?
[23:05] <davmor2> cyphermox: If I disconnect from the power, and try connecting it gets dropped, if I plug the power back in and click on the router name it connects first time
[23:06] <Sarvatt> davmor2: : check out pm-utils? i believe it has a hook to enable power save mode on battery that your wifi card might agree with
[23:07] <davmor2> Sarvatt: Will do thanks
[23:08] <kklimonda> how is the default application for a mime type choosen?
[23:08] <kklimonda> for some reason a default application for .exe files on my system is file-roller..
[23:08] <kklimonda> (that's with wine installed)
[23:16] <MrJones> hi
[23:16] <MrJones> I'm having a licensing question regarding http://launchpad.net/humanity/0.4/0.4/+download/humanity_0.4.6.tar.gz
[23:16] <MrJones> that icon set (humanity dark) is GPL-licensed. now what does that mean for icons? (more specifically .svg files in that case)
[23:17] <MrJones> does using them in a proprietary program through GTK+ enforce GPL conditions also on that program? or rather not
[23:24] <TheMuso> What happened to the ssh agent? I updated, and now after a fresh boot this morning, I don't get prompted with an ssh agent window.
[23:56] <jcastro> kklimonda: I believe bug 251429 can help you
[23:56] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 251429 in moovida "Media types mess" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/251429
[23:56] <jcastro> kklimonda: I mean bug 351429
[23:56] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 351429 in baltix (and 2 other projects) "file-roller associates itself with windows executables that it can't handle (affects: 8) (dups: 3) (heat: 57)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/351429
[23:58] <kklimonda> jcastro: thanks