| ScottL | TheMuso, i have not, i doubt anyone else but quadrispro or persia would do such a thing | 00:11 |
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| TheMuso | ok | 00:11 |
| ScottL | anyone interested: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Sandbox | 00:12 |
| ScottL | ignore the beginners graphic box at first, look at the ubuntu studio one below it :) | 00:12 |
| ScottL | i'd like to make a header like this for thw w.u.c. for ubuntu studio | 00:12 |
| ScottL | i'm using the first graphic (beginners team) as a template | 00:13 |
| ScottL | huh, i thought somebody would like the header graphic at the sandbox page :( | 00:50 |
| persia | You don't even know if anyone looked at the page yet :p | 00:58 |
| * persia thinks the header is a bit busy | 00:58 | |
| persia | Compare https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JavaTeam/Header (yeah, I should do something with that team) | 00:59 |
| persia | Or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileTeam/Menu (and yeah, that team too. One of these days I'll be caught up with my TODOs again) | 01:01 |
| persia | Content still needs cleanup (nice to stick logs on other pages for reference, but not being main content; needs general review/cleanup so a Table of Contents reads sensibly; etc.) | 01:03 |
| persia | ScottL, Als, Riddell was asking about publication in -release for other flavours: you may want to pipe up there. | 01:04 |
| persia | s/Als/Also/ | 01:04 |
| ScottL | persia, what am i contacting riddell about in -release? | 01:18 |
| persia | publication of RCs (if we're ready) | 01:18 |
| ScottL | ah, will do | 01:18 |
| persia | He'll explain in more detail than I understand if you ask. | 01:18 |
| ScottL | persia, the header is rather busy, i agree...i'm just using it to get started, using the code :) | 01:20 |
| ScottL | i'm still knocking it up mind you | 01:20 |
| persia | Heh, OK. | 01:21 |
| ScottL | persia, crisis averted ;) lol | 01:39 |
| ScottL | so what happened during lucid? who signed off then | 01:40 |
| persia | luisbg | 01:40 |
| persia | Or maybe Luke did, I may misremember. | 01:40 |
| ScottL | persia, i spoke with doctormo about his wizardpen package, it hasn't been promoted into the archives and he hasn't filed a bug to do so either | 02:04 |
| ScottL | i thought that i would speak with quadrispro first to see if it can get into debian, but if not, i'll file a bug for it and see about getting it into REVU | 02:05 |
| persia | OK. There's also some guide to "make Wacom work" that points at his PPA. | 02:05 |
| ScottL | i did tell him that we would really like it in ubuntu studio, and it would therefore need to be in the archives before we could do that | 02:06 |
| persia | I'll be seeing him in ~3 weeks, and will push on that idea some more. | 02:06 |
| ScottL | do you know how well the wacom-tools package works? | 02:06 |
| ScottL | what's happening in ~3 weeks? | 02:06 |
| persia | Nope. I haven't yet gotten enough desire to find out to get a Wacom :) | 02:07 |
| ScottL | i'll try to keep reinforcing to him about getting it into the archives as well | 02:07 |
| persia | UDS | 02:07 |
| ScottL | oh yeah, duh :s | 02:07 |
| holstein | hmmm | 02:10 |
| * holstein has a wacom tablet | 02:10 | |
| holstein | an older one | 02:10 |
| holstein | im not even sure if i would know if it was working properly though | 02:11 |
| ScottL | lol | 02:11 |
| * abogani waves | 07:51 | |
| astraljava | o/ | 07:52 |
| abogani | Who is Ralf Mardorf? | 07:53 |
| abogani | Is he already know person inside Studio project or Ubuntu? | 07:54 |
| astraljava | No idea, but saw his post just a while back. | 07:54 |
| astraljava | LP doesn't really know him. | 07:55 |
| astraljava | Seems to be pretty vocal on audio-related projects all over the 'net. | 07:56 |
| abogani | Perhaps I misunderstood his email but he seems a troll to me. | 07:58 |
| astraljava | I didn't get that impression. He just seems to be pretty serious about the latency, and knows what can affect that on a system. | 07:59 |
| persia | Trick is balance of latency and featureset, which gets extra-complicated quickly. | 08:00 |
| astraljava | All amd64 tests completed successfully. | 15:49 |
| scott-work | awesome! | 16:10 |
| scott-work | *sigh* hopefully soon, people will understand why we understand the -rt kernel is valuable, why we can't offer it in the ISO, andthat we are trying to provide the best solution for users as we can | 19:29 |
| astraljava | Normally, people have limited understanding for middle-ground. It's one way or the other. | 19:30 |
| scott-work | and i also appreciate ronj and rlameiro for jumping in the discussion on the mailing list | 19:30 |
| scott-work | astraljava: true | 19:30 |
| scott-work | astraljava: i think you were involved in one of the other kernel threads, thank you as well | 19:30 |
| scott-work | it's frustrating at times, i got the sense that Ralf expected we just chose to remove the -rt kernels by choice, without warrant | 19:31 |
| astraljava | scott-work: No need to thank, I just offered my limited resources for the process of providing a lower-latency kernel, whichever is to be decided on. | 19:31 |
| astraljava | scott-work: Seemed that way at one point, yeah. | 19:31 |
| scott-work | as if we made such a gross change without intellectual consideration | 19:32 |
| scott-work | i hope this email helps that | 19:32 |
| astraljava | True. | 19:32 |
| scott-work | this would be a good topic for the help.u.c. FAQ | 19:38 |
| scott-work | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/FAQ | 19:39 |
| astraljava | Sure would. | 19:39 |
| holstein | i think abogani said it best | 19:39 |
| holstein | when he called for assistance maintaining the PPA | 19:39 |
| holstein | you can find just as many folk upset about the devices that didnt work with the RT kernel i bet | 19:40 |
| holstein | or something RT related in a negative | 19:40 |
| scott-work | i'm very happy that people are stepping up and offering to help | 19:54 |
| scott-work | how that translates into how many people that actually help is to be seen, i guess | 19:55 |
| scott-work | i know i would like to learn a little (or more) about how a -lowlatency kernel is compiled from the -generic | 19:56 |
| scott-work | maybe abogani can write something up to help that | 19:56 |
| holstein | and i think that should be mentioned as well | 20:00 |
| holstein | the pro user might just want to make their own kernel anyways | 20:00 |
| holstein | but nothing is really any different than before | 20:01 |
| holstein | if the PPA keeps going | 20:01 |
| holstein | and it thats well documented | 20:01 |
| holstein | i think it will eventually be seen as a win-win | 20:01 |
| scott-work | i hope that Ralf's influenze is clouding his thinking | 20:11 |
| scott-work | he seems to not understand that it simply may not be possible to ship the -rt kernel | 20:14 |
| scott-work | and seems rather fixated on it being available, to the exclusion that ubuntu studio is worthless without it | 20:15 |
| holstein | yeah | 20:21 |
| holstein | drop the hammer | 20:21 |
| holstein | start a new thread | 20:21 |
| holstein | 'the RT gospel' | 20:21 |
| holstein | it is *gone* | 20:22 |
| holstein | BUT available here | 20:22 |
| scott-work | maybe he just needs validation before he moves forward :) | 20:29 |
| dholbach | hiya | 21:01 |
| dholbach | did we hear any general problems about alsa xruns? | 21:01 |
| dholbach | (10.10) | 21:01 |
| scott-work | hi dholbach | 21:58 |
| scott-work | xruns with jackd? | 21:58 |
| scott-work | i haven't heard anything specific...just the usual general rumblings about kernels, performance and hardware | 21:59 |
| scott-work | that certainly isn't proof that people have not been experiencing it | 21:59 |
| dholbach | no, no jack problem | 22:00 |
| dholbach | ok, I'm having problems with xwax and alsa xruns | 22:07 |
| holstein | hey rlameiro :) | 22:26 |
| dholbach | alright, I'm heading out - see you | 22:27 |
| holstein | dholbach: laterz | 22:27 |
| rlameiro | cya | 22:28 |
| rlameiro | holstein: :D | 22:28 |
| rlameiro | how are you? | 22:28 |
| holstein | good | 22:28 |
| * holstein experimenting with jacktrip and netjack a bit today | 22:28 | |
| rlameiro | good | 22:28 |
| holstein | giving up for now | 22:29 |
| rlameiro | scott-work: hey :D | 22:29 |
| rlameiro | mailing list is on fire :D | 22:29 |
| holstein | right? | 22:29 |
| holstein | RT warz ; | 22:29 |
| holstein | ) | 22:29 |
| rlameiro | finally people care about something | 22:29 |
| rlameiro | thats a good sign | 22:29 |
| holstein | yeah, im glad to see the activiyty | 22:29 |
| holstein | SO rlameiro , this VO | 22:30 |
| holstein | ill totally do an english one | 22:30 |
| holstein | but i think you should do one as well | 22:30 |
| rlameiro | yes? | 22:30 |
| rlameiro | will you record over, o make a new one? | 22:31 |
| holstein | i think i'll just say 'choose your language' | 22:31 |
| holstein | something like that | 22:31 |
| rlameiro | yes | 22:31 |
| holstein | the installer is in english anyways | 22:31 |
| rlameiro | the idea is to explain more how the install works | 22:31 |
| holstein | right? | 22:31 |
| rlameiro | saying, that you can use the tab key to change to the buttons | 22:31 |
| holstein | i think it would be nice to have this video with as many languages as possible over it | 22:32 |
| rlameiro | explain the partition stuff etc | 22:32 |
| holstein | we can get somebody to do 'austrailian' ;) | 22:32 |
| rlameiro | yeah, i can dub it in portuguese, its not a problem | 22:32 |
| holstein | we should be able to find a spanish speaker easy enough | 22:32 |
| rlameiro | yeah, i think so | 22:33 |
| rlameiro | and also french | 22:33 |
| holstein | theres a couple regular germans in OSMP | 22:33 |
| rlameiro | can be canadian too | 22:33 |
| holstein | hehe | 22:33 |
| holstein | rlameiro: whats the time frame for you? | 22:34 |
| holstein | you want this before maverick is final right? | 22:34 |
| rlameiro | yeap :D | 22:34 |
| holstein | i'll try and get a version to you before next week | 22:34 |
| holstein | what was the video syncing jack app you mentioned? | 22:35 |
| holstein | i lost my scroll back :/ | 22:35 |
| rlameiro | Xjadeo | 22:35 |
| rlameiro | you have it in ubuntu studio menu | 22:35 |
| rlameiro | but you should use cli :D | 22:35 |
| holstein | i'll see what i can do :) | 22:36 |
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