[00:11] TheMuso, i have not, i doubt anyone else but quadrispro or persia would do such a thing [00:11] ok [00:12] anyone interested: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Sandbox [00:12] ignore the beginners graphic box at first, look at the ubuntu studio one below it :) [00:12] i'd like to make a header like this for thw w.u.c. for ubuntu studio [00:13] i'm using the first graphic (beginners team) as a template [00:50] huh, i thought somebody would like the header graphic at the sandbox page :( [00:58] You don't even know if anyone looked at the page yet :p [00:58] * persia thinks the header is a bit busy [00:59] Compare https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JavaTeam/Header (yeah, I should do something with that team) [01:01] Or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileTeam/Menu (and yeah, that team too. One of these days I'll be caught up with my TODOs again) [01:03] Content still needs cleanup (nice to stick logs on other pages for reference, but not being main content; needs general review/cleanup so a Table of Contents reads sensibly; etc.) [01:04] ScottL, Als, Riddell was asking about publication in -release for other flavours: you may want to pipe up there. [01:04] s/Als/Also/ [01:18] persia, what am i contacting riddell about in -release? [01:18] publication of RCs (if we're ready) [01:18] ah, will do [01:18] He'll explain in more detail than I understand if you ask. [01:20] persia, the header is rather busy, i agree...i'm just using it to get started, using the code :) [01:20] i'm still knocking it up mind you [01:21] Heh, OK. [01:39] persia, crisis averted ;) lol [01:40] so what happened during lucid? who signed off then [01:40] luisbg [01:40] Or maybe Luke did, I may misremember. [02:04] persia, i spoke with doctormo about his wizardpen package, it hasn't been promoted into the archives and he hasn't filed a bug to do so either [02:05] i thought that i would speak with quadrispro first to see if it can get into debian, but if not, i'll file a bug for it and see about getting it into REVU [02:05] OK. There's also some guide to "make Wacom work" that points at his PPA. [02:06] i did tell him that we would really like it in ubuntu studio, and it would therefore need to be in the archives before we could do that [02:06] I'll be seeing him in ~3 weeks, and will push on that idea some more. [02:06] do you know how well the wacom-tools package works? [02:06] what's happening in ~3 weeks? [02:07] Nope. I haven't yet gotten enough desire to find out to get a Wacom :) [02:07] i'll try to keep reinforcing to him about getting it into the archives as well [02:07] UDS [02:07] oh yeah, duh :s [02:10] hmmm [02:10] * holstein has a wacom tablet [02:10] an older one [02:11] im not even sure if i would know if it was working properly though [02:11] lol [07:51] * abogani waves [07:52] o/ [07:53] Who is Ralf Mardorf? [07:54] Is he already know person inside Studio project or Ubuntu? [07:54] No idea, but saw his post just a while back. [07:55] LP doesn't really know him. [07:56] Seems to be pretty vocal on audio-related projects all over the 'net. [07:58] Perhaps I misunderstood his email but he seems a troll to me. [07:59] I didn't get that impression. He just seems to be pretty serious about the latency, and knows what can affect that on a system. [08:00] Trick is balance of latency and featureset, which gets extra-complicated quickly. [15:49] All amd64 tests completed successfully. [16:10] awesome! [19:29] *sigh* hopefully soon, people will understand why we understand the -rt kernel is valuable, why we can't offer it in the ISO, andthat we are trying to provide the best solution for users as we can [19:30] Normally, people have limited understanding for middle-ground. It's one way or the other. [19:30] and i also appreciate ronj and rlameiro for jumping in the discussion on the mailing list [19:30] astraljava: true [19:30] astraljava: i think you were involved in one of the other kernel threads, thank you as well [19:31] it's frustrating at times, i got the sense that Ralf expected we just chose to remove the -rt kernels by choice, without warrant [19:31] scott-work: No need to thank, I just offered my limited resources for the process of providing a lower-latency kernel, whichever is to be decided on. [19:31] scott-work: Seemed that way at one point, yeah. [19:32] as if we made such a gross change without intellectual consideration [19:32] i hope this email helps that [19:32] True. [19:38] this would be a good topic for the help.u.c. FAQ [19:39] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/FAQ [19:39] Sure would. [19:39] i think abogani said it best [19:39] when he called for assistance maintaining the PPA [19:40] you can find just as many folk upset about the devices that didnt work with the RT kernel i bet [19:40] or something RT related in a negative [19:54] i'm very happy that people are stepping up and offering to help [19:55] how that translates into how many people that actually help is to be seen, i guess [19:56] i know i would like to learn a little (or more) about how a -lowlatency kernel is compiled from the -generic [19:56] maybe abogani can write something up to help that [20:00] and i think that should be mentioned as well [20:00] the pro user might just want to make their own kernel anyways [20:01] but nothing is really any different than before [20:01] if the PPA keeps going [20:01] and it thats well documented [20:01] i think it will eventually be seen as a win-win [20:11] i hope that Ralf's influenze is clouding his thinking [20:14] he seems to not understand that it simply may not be possible to ship the -rt kernel [20:15] and seems rather fixated on it being available, to the exclusion that ubuntu studio is worthless without it [20:21] yeah [20:21] drop the hammer [20:21] start a new thread [20:21] 'the RT gospel' [20:22] it is *gone* [20:22] BUT available here [20:29] maybe he just needs validation before he moves forward :) [21:01] hiya [21:01] did we hear any general problems about alsa xruns? [21:01] (10.10) [21:58] hi dholbach [21:58] xruns with jackd? [21:59] i haven't heard anything specific...just the usual general rumblings about kernels, performance and hardware [21:59] that certainly isn't proof that people have not been experiencing it [22:00] no, no jack problem [22:07] ok, I'm having problems with xwax and alsa xruns [22:26] hey rlameiro :) [22:27] alright, I'm heading out - see you [22:27] dholbach: laterz [22:28] cya [22:28] holstein: :D [22:28] how are you? [22:28] good [22:28] * holstein experimenting with jacktrip and netjack a bit today [22:28] good [22:29] giving up for now [22:29] scott-work: hey :D [22:29] mailing list is on fire :D [22:29] right? [22:29] RT warz ; [22:29] ) [22:29] finally people care about something [22:29] thats a good sign [22:29] yeah, im glad to see the activiyty [22:30] SO rlameiro , this VO [22:30] ill totally do an english one [22:30] but i think you should do one as well [22:30] yes? [22:31] will you record over, o make a new one? [22:31] i think i'll just say 'choose your language' [22:31] something like that [22:31] yes [22:31] the installer is in english anyways [22:31] the idea is to explain more how the install works [22:31] right? [22:31] saying, that you can use the tab key to change to the buttons [22:32] i think it would be nice to have this video with as many languages as possible over it [22:32] explain the partition stuff etc [22:32] we can get somebody to do 'austrailian' ;) [22:32] yeah, i can dub it in portuguese, its not a problem [22:32] we should be able to find a spanish speaker easy enough [22:33] yeah, i think so [22:33] and also french [22:33] theres a couple regular germans in OSMP [22:33] can be canadian too [22:33] hehe [22:34] rlameiro: whats the time frame for you? [22:34] you want this before maverick is final right? [22:34] yeap :D [22:34] i'll try and get a version to you before next week [22:35] what was the video syncing jack app you mentioned? [22:35] i lost my scroll back :/ [22:35] Xjadeo [22:35] you have it in ubuntu studio menu [22:35] but you should use cli :D [22:36] i'll see what i can do :)