| JontheEchidna | this pisses me off to no end: http://imgur.com/eimg6 | 00:16 |
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| JontheEchidna | I created a new image exactly the same size as what I selected from the source image, but gimp #@@!'s it up | 00:16 |
| JontheEchidna | so, all wiki images replaced except for the maverick-netbook.png/wee variant and the ubiquity images, for which I am downloading the latest CD image | 00:26 |
| JontheEchidna | k-d-s changing default font in approval queue, going to to gtk2-engines-qtcurve | 00:31 |
| JontheEchidna | erm, please reject k-d-s. It only affected the General font, and the rest of the non-monowidth fonts are sans serif | 00:35 |
| JontheEchidna | ScottK, Riddell^ | 00:35 |
| JontheEchidna | gtk2-engines-qtcurve should be good, though | 00:45 |
| lex79 | JontheEchidna: did you change something in gtk2-engines-qtcurve? | 01:03 |
| JontheEchidna | lex79: patched the kdeglobals | 01:03 |
| lex79 | just curiosity | 01:03 |
| lex79 | oh neat | 01:04 |
| lex79 | if you can also update the bzr branch since we can't sync anymore the package now... | 01:05 |
| lex79 | why kpackagekit checks update weekly and not daily? | 01:39 |
| lex79 | from the kubuntu feedback page | 01:40 |
| maco | Riddell: i think debfx was just saying that to make qtcurve do the right thing, we set the font in its package instead of using the modifications i did in k-d-s | 01:47 |
| jjesse-netbook | this is interesting doing a full upgrade with muon and not getting a process indicator, so do i just wait ? | 01:48 |
| dantti | lex79: does it check at all? afaik there are patches disabling it.. | 02:44 |
| Sput | Riddell: don't worry, I a) know exactly that Gentoo is superior, b) know that I can install a full system within a day with spending like 5 minutes at the computer, and c) know that I save soooo much time because updates don't break and configuration is much more easier because I don't need to use random GUI tools, and d) don't really care what others use, as I'm fully aware of me being a crazy person that's incompatible to binary distros :) | 02:49 |
| nigelb | lol | 02:50 |
| Sput | I'm certainly not gonna leave because of some bashing :) | 03:02 |
| lex79 | dantti: kpk here in my installation checks update weekly and it's confirmed by the last comment there: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/MaverickMeerkat/RC/Kubuntu/Feedback | 03:04 |
| dantti | lex79: funny the page says he was using KPackageKit since '06 but I started to write in in 2008 :P | 03:07 |
| dantti | s/in/it | 03:07 |
| lex79 | that is another comment I think from another user | 03:08 |
| lex79 | there's this patch btw kubuntu_06_no_automatic_updates.diff | 03:08 |
| dantti | well anyway would be good to see what Riddell thinks about this, since the combo to select the updates interval is hidden by some patch | 03:09 |
| lex79 | the combo to select the updates? it's not hidden here | 03:11 |
| lex79 | http://imagebin.ca/view/cx0Kndw.html | 03:11 |
| dantti | hmm I think they were hidden :P | 03:12 |
| lex79 | :) | 03:13 |
| dantti | well the default can be easily changed, but I guess Riddell would be better to answear that | 03:13 |
| lex79 | ok | 03:13 |
| dantti | I have to go work late night now :( cya | 03:14 |
| shadeslayer | what? Huh? | 03:34 |
| shadeslayer | i wasnt working on liblastfm | 03:34 |
| shadeslayer | IIRC lex79 was | 03:34 |
| lex79 | nope | 03:34 |
| shadeslayer | i didnt take it up surely | 03:35 |
| shadeslayer | i have kdelibs merge and another bug to fix first :P | 03:35 |
| shadeslayer | also, im off to college, its 8 AM already :D | 03:35 |
| lex79 | liblastfm is already uploaded anyway | 03:35 |
| lex79 | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/liblastfm/0.4.0~really0.3.3-0ubuntu1 | 03:35 |
| shadeslayer | ok.... | 03:35 |
| ScottK | JontheEchidna: I'm going to reject your k-d-s as requested. | 04:19 |
| JontheEchidna | Thanks | 04:20 |
| ScottK | JontheEchidna: You might also look at the amount of hinting. Ubuntu, IIRC, went with Slight and there was pushback about doing more. | 04:20 |
| ScottK | No problem. | 04:20 |
| JontheEchidna | pushback, as in slight being too much? | 04:21 |
| JontheEchidna | or pushback about the hinting *not* being stronger? | 04:21 |
| ScottK | About not doing more. | 04:22 |
| ScottK | Discussion is in Bug 629622 | 04:23 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 629622 in ubuntu-font-family-sources (Ubuntu) "MIR+FFE: Inclusion of Ubuntu Font Family ~0.70 in Maverick (10.10)" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/629622 | 04:23 |
| ScottK | qapt accepted, BTW. | 04:23 |
| ScottK | skrooge too | 04:23 |
| ScottK | JontheEchidna: Also they bumped to 11 point because 10 point is smaller in the Ubuntu font than in whatever it's replacing. | 04:26 |
| ScottK | JontheEchidna: Does gtk2-engines-qtcurve need to be rejected too? | 04:26 |
| JontheEchidna | ScottK: no, that's fine. It's actually what made me catch the k-d-s bug | 04:26 |
| ScottK | JontheEchidna: OK. I'll let it sit until there's a new k-d-s to go with it. | 04:27 |
| JontheEchidna | I'm afraid I let myself get distracted with FTBFS fixing ;-) | 04:27 |
| ScottK | ;-) | 04:28 |
| ScottK | JontheEchidna: BTW, there's no need to wait for the reject before re-uploading. The queue can hold more than one package of the same version in unapproved. Just only one can ever make it in. | 04:28 |
| JontheEchidna | aah, ok | 04:28 |
| JontheEchidna | once I finish up with ktoon I'll get back to k-d-s | 04:29 |
| ScottK | Cool. | 04:30 |
| ScottK | BTW, chromium and KDE should be able to agree that it's the default browser in Maverick again. FTA backported some stuff to make that possible today. | 04:32 |
| JontheEchidna | nice. I told it to stop asking me | 04:32 |
| JontheEchidna | I, personally bumped my font settings up from 8 to 8.5 when I switched to the Ubuntu font | 04:36 |
| JontheEchidna | stray , in there | 04:36 |
| JontheEchidna | we default to 9 point currently | 04:36 |
| JontheEchidna | I think 9 looks fine: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/MaverickMeerkat/RC/Kubuntu?action=AttachFile&do=view | 04:38 |
| JontheEchidna | hmm, that link probably won't work | 04:39 |
| JontheEchidna | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/MaverickMeerkat/RC/Kubuntu?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=kpk4.png | 04:39 |
| JontheEchidna | but we can bump things up by one if there is a need | 04:39 |
| JontheEchidna | If we make this the last upload of k-d-s, it'll be k-d-s 1:10.10ubuntu10 | 04:39 |
| JontheEchidna | turns out we're already using medium hinting | 04:49 |
| CIA-116 | [ubuntu] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20101001035053-al69ml646rrag5l2 * (debian/changelog debian/control share/config/kdeglobals) * Switch to the Ubuntu font as the default font, as approved by the Kubuntu Council * Add a dependency on ttf-ubuntu-font-family for the above | 04:50 |
| CIA-116 | [muon] jmthomas * 1181452 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/ (2 files in 2 dirs) SVN_SILENT: Krazy2 fixes | 05:00 |
| ScottK | JontheEchidna: Both accepted. | 05:43 |
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| markey | is this bad: | 07:34 |
| markey | W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/ppa/ubuntu/dists/maverick/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz 404 Not Found | 07:34 |
| jussi | Hrm, bug 651050 affects me, on a normal kubuntu install, but has been marked as invalid. what to do? | 07:54 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 651050 in Plymouth "User shown Ubuntu 10.10 splash screen when booting Kubuntu 10.10 Netbook" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/651050 | 07:54 |
| markey | thanks for LibLastFM update, seems to work fine :) | 08:05 |
| yao_ziyuan | when you release an alpha or beta, you're supposed to build apps with more debugging information, and therefore they would run slower than a final release, right? | 08:17 |
| Riddell | one can do | 08:19 |
| yao_ziyuan | thanks | 08:22 |
| agateau | Riddell: morning, this is your daily reminder for https://code.launchpad.net/~agateau/plasma-widget-message-indicator/fix-text-overlap-in-systemtray/+merge/37106 :) | 08:32 |
| Riddell | yep, I'll get onto that momentarily, thanks agateau | 08:32 |
| agateau | Riddell: great | 08:32 |
| apachelogger | yay, it is always a good thing to start a new semester with calculus \o/ | 08:33 |
| apachelogger | I will derive! | 08:33 |
| apachelogger | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9dpTTpjymE | 08:34 |
| * ulysses passed calulus 1 and 2 \o/ | 08:35 | |
| apachelogger | ulysses: congrats | 08:37 |
| ulysses | 2 years ago, in my first year | 08:38 |
| apachelogger | ulysses: still congratuatable, no? | 08:38 |
| ulysses | yes, some of my friends still doing it | 08:38 |
| apachelogger | maybe they like it so much, I personally do | 08:39 |
| ulysses | :D | 08:39 |
| apachelogger | not that I would be paritcularly good at it, but I like it ;) | 08:39 |
| * apachelogger builds his own vlc thinking that maybe the packages might be what broke his paintaing code so badly | 08:40 | |
| ulysses | Beautiful: http://imagebin.ca/img/D4HbWF9.png | 08:56 |
| valorie | good lord, what is that? | 09:04 |
| valorie | eek | 09:04 |
| ulysses | Kubuntu 10.10 RC in Virtualbox, right after installing guest additions | 09:05 |
| persia | Is that some sort of AA rendering environment? | 09:05 |
| valorie | wow | 09:06 |
| apachelogger | sweet baby jesus! | 09:06 |
| valorie | looks like a nightmare | 09:06 |
| * persia is impressed that aalib can handle that sort of environment | 09:06 | |
| Mamarok | ulysses: beautiful is different, but nice POC | 09:13 |
| Mamarok | too many colors in the text, though, makes it unreadable | 09:13 |
| debfx | ulysses: how did you install the guest additions? | 09:16 |
| ulysses | sudo /media/VBoxGuestAdditions/VboxLinuxadditions-x86.run | 09:19 |
| debfx | ulysses: you should install the package virtualbox-ose-guest-x11 instead | 09:20 |
| ulysses | Didn't know that, thanks | 09:20 |
| debfx | yeah the guest additions are packaged | 09:21 |
| ulysses | good news | 09:23 |
| nigelb | Riddell: Um, were you able to find someone for kubuntu in open week? | 10:07 |
| Riddell | nigelb: not given the matter much thought | 10:08 |
| nigelb | oh, ok | 10:10 |
| debfx | apachelogger: do you know a workaround for the openoffice crash when using the raster graphicssystem? | 10:19 |
| Riddell | use KOffice :) | 10:22 |
| valorie | lol | 10:23 |
| nigelb | heh | 10:25 |
| lucidfox | Well | 10:37 |
| lucidfox | Last I tried, KWord was slow and had eye-burning font rendering | 10:38 |
| Riddell | but now that it defaults to the Ubuntu font it'll be nice and smooth | 10:40 |
| lucidfox | Is that sarcasm? | 10:42 |
| lucidfox | I mean on the page, actually. The documents I tried to edit used Verdana. The fonts were much crisper in AbiWord and OOo | 10:42 |
| lucidfox | it seems to me that KWord just ignores the full hinting setting, and always did since early 2.0 beta | 10:43 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: http://people.ubuntu.com/~apachelogger/screencasts/phonon+proper-qgraphicitem.ogv check this out | 10:46 |
| apachelogger | ohw it is so beautiful and nice and and omg | 10:46 |
| apachelogger | debfx: kApp->setGraphicsSystem("native"); | 10:47 |
| apachelogger | debfx: whereever kapp gets constructed | 10:47 |
| apachelogger | I did not find out where also I found ooo code scary so I did not bother to look closer | 10:47 |
| apachelogger | if you cannot find where the kapp comes from then just do that before every K* function does things | 10:48 |
| apachelogger | also FTR: that is not even a workaround but the proper way to do it, because shtylman told me ooo hands the KDE integration foo a widget to paint on, which is of course dependent on X11 and hence native paintaing *must* be enforced globally via setGraphicsSystem | 10:49 |
| debfx | apachelogger: I was thinking about a workaround that doesn't involve recompiling OO.o :) | 10:50 |
| apachelogger | also FTR: one can manually swap the system on a per-painter basis, so say only a minor part of your software requires X11 foo and the painting is reasonable accessable one can (or maybe even should) just swap the graphicsengine for that particular painter | 10:50 |
| apachelogger | also FTR: graphicssystem == graphicsengine (when one browses the painting docu usually they talk about the engine, which is synonymous to the system) | 10:51 |
| debfx | I guess setting QT_GRAPHICSSYSTEM=native in /usr/bin/ooffice should fix it | 10:51 |
| apachelogger | debfx: yep | 10:51 |
| apachelogger | just wanted to say that | 10:51 |
| apachelogger | however, that really is a workaround ;) | 10:51 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: ooh pretty | 10:52 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: that is native painted now, rather than the thing I did the other day (which asked Phonon::VideoWidget to do the painting) | 10:54 |
| apachelogger | also FTR again: Phonon::Experimental contains about all the stuff that currently sets QtMultimediaKit apart from phonon so once more I am not sure why the kit is even existing | 10:55 |
| apachelogger | (most importantly QtMultimediaKit does have a graphicsitem already ;)) | 10:55 |
| Riddell | nobody outside Brisbane knows that | 10:58 |
| howlymowly | hi poeple.. shor question abot maverick: my plasama effects right now are turned off by default... my default settings do not matter in this case. I always have to turn them on manually (using the keaboard shortcut for example) is this supposed to be like this? | 11:05 |
| Riddell | you probably have a blacklisted driver | 11:06 |
| howlymowly | Riddell: will this change, until the release of maverick? | 11:06 |
| howlymowly | (i got an intel graphics chipset btw...) | 11:07 |
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| debfx | apachelogger: http://aur.archlinux.org/packages/go-openoffice-qt-native/go-openoffice-qt-native/qt-use-native-backend.diff | 11:17 |
| apachelogger | ...ah, yeah, why upstream fixes... | 11:17 |
| Riddell | howlymowly: probably not, how well does it work with effects? | 11:17 |
| howlymowly | Riddell: I have not seen the slightest problems.. In fact on maverick it runs better than ever | 11:18 |
| howlymowly | its an intel 965gm chipse | 11:18 |
| howlymowly | *chipset | 11:18 |
| Riddell | hmm, I have "Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics" and when I turn on effects it works much of the time but e.g. konsole has notable refreshing problems and the systray has funny colours | 11:19 |
| debfx | apachelogger: there is an upstream bug with a link to that patch: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=113246 | 11:35 |
| ubottu | OpenOffice.org bug 113246 in kde "Openoffice fail when qt build with raster engine by default" [Defect,New: ] | 11:35 |
| debfx | filing a bug against libreoffice might be more promising | 11:35 |
| Tm_T | Riddell: I remember there has been discussion and bugfixing related to konsole drawing, there were some technical reason why it is/was slow | 11:39 |
| Tm_T | ...during the KDE4 developmet | 11:39 |
| ScottK | Riddell or JontheEchidna: Does kubuntu-netbook-default-settings need an upload for the font? | 11:39 |
| debfx | ScottK: yes | 11:41 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Can you do it? | 11:44 |
| ScottK | debfx: Thanks. | 11:44 |
| Tm_T | ScottK: any images incoming that needs some testing? | 11:45 |
| Tm_T | (PPC) | 11:45 |
| ScottK | Tm_T: If you could take the latest daily for a spin and see how it goes, that would be good. | 11:46 |
| Tm_T | wi l look at it today then (: | 11:46 |
| Riddell | ScottK: keeping the eye wateringly small size? | 11:50 |
| ScottK | Riddell: I'd knock it up one point from what we had since allegedly this font renders smaller. | 11:51 |
| apachelogger | debfx: Ic | 11:52 |
| apachelogger | shtylman: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=113246 | 11:52 |
| ubottu | OpenOffice.org bug 113246 in kde "Openoffice fail when qt build with raster engine by default" [Defect,New: ] | 11:52 |
| mokush | hey, I've updated to 10.10 beta, and completly lost wifi support. any way to kickstart it manualy? | 12:07 |
| * Riddell uploads kubuntu-netbook-default-settings | 12:11 | |
| Riddell | mokush: try installing the RC? | 12:12 |
| mokush | I was hopeing to be able to update the beta to the rc, without burning a disc | 12:12 |
| ScottK | Riddell: k-n-d-s accepted. | 12:32 |
| ScottK | Thanks. | 12:32 |
| davmor2 | mokush: is your machine unplgged? | 12:34 |
| mokush | unplugged as in network plug? | 12:35 |
| davmor2 | mokush: as in no power goning into the machine | 12:38 |
| mokush | davmor2: is this some kind of joke? | 12:39 |
| davmor2 | mokush: nope pm-utils causes some wifi cards to not connect if the machine is not connect to power. if that was the case there is a work around you can try | 12:40 |
| davmor2 | mokush: try "sudo pm-powersave false" then try to connect again | 12:42 |
| mokush | I'm on a toshiba l300 laptop, always plugged. Atheros AR5007EG wireless card. The network manager does not start at all. | 12:42 |
| davmor2 | mokush: Ah okay that's something completely different then | 12:43 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: did we reach conclusion on the font? | 12:45 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: It's in. | 12:46 |
| apachelogger | as default? | 12:46 |
| Riddell | yes | 12:46 |
| apachelogger | cool | 12:47 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer and 999 million other Indians will be most happy | 12:47 |
| apachelogger | hm | 12:49 |
| apachelogger | dolphin has some serious scaling issues | 12:50 |
| apachelogger | 11k files and dolphin goes wocka | 12:50 |
| shadeslayer | 0_o | 13:02 |
| shadeslayer | whuh.. | 13:03 |
| apachelogger | updateMetaData(): artist: Apollo 440 | 13:03 |
| apachelogger | updateMetaData(): title: Stop The Rock | 13:03 |
| apachelogger | those were good times | 13:03 |
| apachelogger | the 1990's werent so bad after all ^^ | 13:03 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: what font? :P | 13:03 |
| shadeslayer | the ubuntu font? | 13:03 |
| shadeslayer | i hates it now .. | 13:04 |
| apachelogger | the supreme master font that fell from the heaven after devine intervention by sabdfl | 13:04 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: yeah, so mainstream, horrible | 13:04 |
| * apachelogger shall use gnuunicode or what it was called | 13:04 | |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: it looks all squashed on my LCD now | 13:04 |
| shadeslayer | dunno what happened | 13:04 |
| shadeslayer | the beta one was awesome | 13:04 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: Try changing the hinting from medium to slight. | 13:05 |
| apachelogger | well, open source -> degrading quality right there | 13:05 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: should that not be defaulted? | 13:05 |
| apachelogger | if it makes the system look better? | 13:05 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: is hinting enabled? | 13:05 |
| sabdfl | it should, yes | 13:05 |
| shadeslayer | ( by default ) | 13:05 |
| ScottK | That was part of yesterday's discussion. | 13:05 |
| shadeslayer | because it is *necessary* for the ubuntu fonts | 13:05 |
| shadeslayer | ah ok .. | 13:06 |
| ScottK | Currently Ubuntu is defaulting to slight and we are defaulting to medium | 13:06 |
| ScottK | (which is what we had before) | 13:06 |
| * shadeslayer has autohinting | 13:06 | |
| ScottK | Given we have not very long to make changes, if people aren't happy with it as it is, I'd like to know soon if that helps. | 13:06 |
| apachelogger | couldnt that be set on fontconfig level? | 13:06 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: It's in k-d-s/k-n-d-s. | 13:07 |
| ScottK | No idea if it could or not. | 13:07 |
| shadeslayer | oh wait.. its says medium.. weird | 13:07 |
| shadeslayer | also K/Ubuntu is catching up in my university.. finally | 13:08 |
| apachelogger | not here | 13:08 |
| apachelogger | we are all diehard debian fanbois | 13:08 |
| shadeslayer | hehe .. | 13:08 |
| * apachelogger has a debian install just so he does not stick out when he is @ university ^^ | 13:08 | |
| shadeslayer | my university is all pro-MS | 13:08 |
| Riddell | 10 year old debian in my case | 13:09 |
| shadeslayer | good to see people poking me about k/ubuntu these days | 13:09 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: so what, the 3 minor versions more up-to-date kernel does not change much :P | 13:09 |
| apachelogger | http://paste.ubuntu.com/503863/ is it me or does that function look like something you would not want to call every day? | 13:10 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: still squashed :( | 13:11 |
| ScottK | OK. No idea then. | 13:12 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: http://imgur.com/vJ1xz | 13:12 |
| shadeslayer | just to show how it looks like | 13:12 |
| ScottK | Riddell: ^^^ ? | 13:12 |
| yofel | that looks fine to me, at least it looks like that here too (slight hinting set in fontconfig and KDE to system settings) | 13:13 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: ill show it with droid sans font | 13:13 |
| yofel | the ubuntu font is more slim than other fonts, but that's not bad.. | 13:14 |
| shadeslayer | http://imgur.com/CQWgb | 13:14 |
| shadeslayer | compare those side by side :> | 13:14 |
| * apachelogger starts singing | 13:15 | |
| ScottK | I like the Ubuntu one better. | 13:15 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: dont the ubuntu ones seem squashed to you? | 13:16 |
| yofel | right, it's smaller, but it doesn't look different from the beta one, just takes some getting used to | 13:16 |
| ScottK | The problem with fonts is that your opinion is largely colored by what you're used to. | 13:16 |
| * yofel misses a mono version though :/ | 13:16 | |
| shadeslayer | its alot different than beta | 13:16 |
| shadeslayer | from what i observed | 13:16 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: No, but I don't use either of those fonts, so they are both new to me. | 13:16 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: hence I would have +1'd on setting a mono font default | 13:16 |
| apachelogger | muhahaha :D | 13:16 |
| apachelogger | mono spaced fonts are the uberawesome | 13:17 |
| * ScottK was voting for delivering the features before feature freeze. | 13:17 | |
| yofel | well, I couldn't really compare them, as my font settings got messed up for a while when I switched them | 13:17 |
| yofel | I only use monospace for IRC and Konsole | 13:17 |
| * ScottK will let the people who wanted the font figure it out. | 13:17 | |
| shadeslayer | annyyways | 13:19 |
| * shadeslayer wants better graphics for installer | 13:23 | |
| apachelogger | I rather have someone findout why my kmix is broken since I removed pulse | 13:31 |
| al | other way around for me since 4.5 | 13:34 |
| al | kmix started simulating some kind of pulse support, but went from working fine to doing all kinds of weird stuff | 13:35 |
| apachelogger | not nice at all | 13:37 |
| debfx | the font settings in k-d-s and k-n-d-s are broken (has a dot instead of comma) | 13:58 |
| ScottK | Riddell: ^^^ | 14:00 |
| ScottK | They seem to be doing something as I have the new font. | 14:00 |
| debfx | yes, but the size is set to 12 | 14:01 |
| ScottK | Where do I check that? | 14:06 |
| ScottK | Mine are Ubuntu 7 or * on netbook. | 14:07 |
| ScottK | */8 | 14:07 |
| ScottK | Which means the new size didn't take effect. | 14:07 |
| Tm_T | huh, is there any way to disable spell checking entirely? The fact that Konqueror keeps it enabled no matter what I have set for it, keeps crippling my system in time to time | 14:10 |
| debfx | ScottK: have you changed the fonts in the kcm before? | 14:18 |
| ScottK | debfx: I had not. | 14:20 |
| shtylman | apachelogger: will do | 14:21 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: Coming to US? | 14:49 |
| ScottK | Oops. I know you are. | 14:49 |
| ScottK | shtylman: Coming to UDS? | 14:49 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: Now that I've got the font on my netbook, I agree it looks squashed, but maybe I'll get used to it. | 15:04 |
| Riddell | debfx: tsk, I knew that didn't look right | 15:06 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Bumping the font up one size in netbook like we agree was definitely the right choice. | 15:07 |
| ScottK | claydoh_: Please have a look at the proposed release note in Bug #651294 and add it to ours too. | 15:20 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 651294 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu) "X crash on KDM logout (still - yes, really)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/651294 | 15:20 |
| debfx | Riddell: do you want me to fix the font settings? | 15:35 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: :D | 15:38 |
| shadeslayer | <3 the beta fonts, the final release is squashed :( | 15:38 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: also, everything depends on the Visa | 15:39 |
| shadeslayer | i hope i get it, but cant say | 15:39 |
| ScottK | Right. | 15:39 |
| * shadeslayer notes amarok is all broken | 15:43 | |
| debfx | markey: any news on the applet width bug? | 15:49 |
| shadeslayer | yeah thats the one i have i think ^ | 15:49 |
| zanoi | are there any plans to add some installation instructions to the Kubuntu website, similar to the ones the Ubuntu website has? | 15:52 |
| zanoi | my girlfriend tried to install kubuntu but didnt know what to do after the download | 15:52 |
| ScottK | ryanakca: ^^^ | 15:52 |
| zanoi | when i showed her the ubuntu website it worked out fine | 15:53 |
| ulysses | zanoi: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GraphicalInstall/Kubuntu | 15:53 |
| ulysses | I guess the screenshots should be updated | 15:53 |
| zanoi | ulysses: cool, now if that page could be linked to where one download the iso it would be great | 15:54 |
| zanoi | ulysses: also the way the ubuntu website does it is unbelievable user friendly | 15:54 |
| zanoi | (except that it doesn't work with konqueror) | 15:54 |
| ulysses | I don't know how they do, but I'll look at | 15:55 |
| zanoi | ulysses: http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/download | 15:55 |
| ulysses | aham, I see | 15:55 |
| ulysses | Not bad | 15:56 |
| zanoi | they let you choose which os you're on and whether you want a cd or usb and then present simple steps on how to install | 15:56 |
| ScottK | agateau: Do we have a messaging indicator or a messaging menu in Kubuntu? | 15:56 |
| agateau | ScottK: mmm, what's the difference? | 15:57 |
| agateau | ScottK: we have a Plasma widget | 15:57 |
| ScottK | agateau: I want to describe it correctly. | 15:57 |
| ScottK | (it being the plasma widget) | 15:57 |
| agateau | ScottK: ok, the widget is named plasma-widget-message-indicator so I would go for "indicator" | 15:58 |
| ScottK | Thanks. | 15:58 |
| debfx | ScottK: I've fixed k-d-s, could you upload it? | 16:04 |
| ScottK | Perhaps in a bit if Riddell doesn't get to it first. | 16:05 |
| ScottK | debfx: Are you doing k-n-d-s too? | 16:05 |
| ScottK | debfx: Does gtk2-engines-qtcurve need fixing too? | 16:06 |
| debfx | ScottK: yes, it doesn't have a bzr branch, right? | 16:06 |
| ScottK | No idea. | 16:06 |
| debfx | ScottK: qtcurve is fine | 16:06 |
| ScottK | Cool. | 16:06 |
| debfx | ScottK: http://people.ubuntu.com/~debfx/kubuntu-netbook-default-settings_10.10.6.debdiff | 16:07 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Would you mind doing Bug #624512 so I can say it's done when we get to the MOTU section of the release meeting. | 16:19 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 624512 in mozc (Ubuntu Maverick) "Please move mozc from Universe to Multiverse" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/624512 | 16:19 |
| markey | debfx: pong. you asked about news regarding applet sizes? in 2.3.2 I applied a (very hacky) patch shortly before tagging that gets around the issue | 16:36 |
| markey | calling resize() on the MainWindow right after startup | 16:36 |
| markey | seems to work for most people | 16:36 |
| markey | it would however be nice to have this solved for real | 16:36 |
| markey | the bug is in Plasma and/or Qt | 16:36 |
| markey | noone knows... | 16:36 |
| dantti | Riddell: I generated the patch here, but as I renamed some .png files they do not appear in the patch, isn't it better just to resync? since the patch would be the same thing? | 16:36 |
| dantti | I can send you the patch so that you see what changed, mostly bug fixes and a few speedy improvements | 16:37 |
| debfx | markey: it doesn't work for shadeslayer and me | 16:37 |
| markey | debfx: which KDE and Qt version? | 16:37 |
| debfx | markey: 4.5.1 and 4.7.0 | 16:38 |
| markey | interesting | 16:38 |
| markey | I have the same setup | 16:38 |
| debfx | does it work for you on maverick? | 16:38 |
| markey | I only heard about issues with KDE trunk now | 16:38 |
| markey | yes, it does | 16:38 |
| markey | but I suspect this is timing sensitive. my patch simple resizes 1500ms after Amarok is shown | 16:38 |
| Riddell | ScottK: but I should be paying attention to the meeting not processing bugs! | 16:38 |
| markey | I guess that time could be too short in some situations | 16:39 |
| debfx | maybe it's a problem if the window is still hidden? | 16:39 |
| ScottK | Riddell: I know you're a king of multi-tasking | 16:39 |
| markey | debfx: aaah, absolutely. that could very well render the patch useless | 16:39 |
| markey | I never thought of this | 16:39 |
| markey | but we don't have any other solutions anyway... | 16:40 |
| debfx | calling resize when the window is first shown might do the trick | 16:41 |
| markey | debfx: Plasma in KDE 4.5 brought so many regressions for us, it's not even funny | 16:41 |
| markey | we had to deal with 4 different bugs | 16:41 |
| markey | debfx: that might work, if you can figure out when it is actually rendered on the screen, for real | 16:41 |
| markey | polish() doesn't suffice | 16:41 |
| markey | maybe waiting for a showEvent() | 16:42 |
| markey | or similar | 16:42 |
| markey | debfx: my patch is very small, it's in App::resizeMainWindow() | 16:42 |
| Riddell | ScottK: done | 16:42 |
| markey | if you look at the code, you'll see instantly how it works | 16:42 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Thanks. | 16:42 |
| shadeslayer | markey: its pretty randomn | 16:44 |
| markey | shadeslayer: this sucks :( | 16:44 |
| shadeslayer | it works when you start amarok, but then when you restore it, it from systray it sometimes doesnt show it properly | 16:44 |
| markey | I spent like 10 hours working around all those Plasma bugs | 16:45 |
| markey | at this point, I'd rather switch to Qt Quick at some point | 16:45 |
| debfx | shadeslayer: for me it only happens when amarok is started hidden to tray | 16:45 |
| shadeslayer | debfx: how does one do that? | 16:45 |
| debfx | shadeslayer: close amarok when it's hidden | 16:46 |
| debfx | it remebers the hidden/shown state | 16:46 |
| Riddell | ScottK: I'm a bit short of things to say in the meeting, we don't have enough problems this release, anything I should say? | 16:47 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Wax poetic about the font. | 16:47 |
| shadeslayer | oh yus | 16:47 |
| shadeslayer | markey: debfx: confirmed : http://imgur.com/bSDjD | 16:47 |
| ScottK | KDM still crashing on logout for me, but workaround in a proposed release note | 16:47 |
| markey | shadeslayer: you started it hidden in the tray? | 16:48 |
| shadeslayer | markey: yes | 16:48 |
| markey | yeah, that was to be expected | 16:48 |
| markey | the way my patch works | 16:48 |
| markey | I could try to make an improved version, but not tonight | 16:48 |
| markey | could we get it into maverick still, say, on Monday? | 16:48 |
| markey | also, for crying out loud, it would be nice to get some help from the Plasma folks... | 16:49 |
| ScottK | Riddell: The X/KDM thing is Bug 651294 | 16:50 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 651294 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu) "X crash on KDM logout (still - yes, really)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/651294 | 16:50 |
| shadeslayer | markey: #plasma is _that_ way :P | 16:50 |
| ScottK | I didn't milestone it since I knew it wouldn't be fixed. | 16:50 |
| shadeslayer | markey: ive just started getting my hands dirty with plasma, simple stuff for now :) | 16:51 |
| markey | shadeslayer: hehe, they focus on the KDE Plasma desktop. Amarok's use case is rare, there are hardly any apps that usee LibPlasma | 16:52 |
| markey | so it gets little testing | 16:52 |
| shadeslayer | markey: use something else then... why use something that breaks stuff :( | 16:52 |
| markey | lol | 16:52 |
| markey | as I said, I want to experiment with Qt Quick. but we can'T depend on Qt 4.7 just yet :) | 16:53 |
| shadeslayer | ah | 16:53 |
| shadeslayer | markey: maybe it needs another App::resizeMainWindow() somewhere? | 16:54 |
| ScottK | markey: Why not? It's been released for a week now hasn't it? It's practically obsolete. | 16:54 |
| shadeslayer | lol | 16:54 |
| markey | haha | 16:55 |
| markey | shadeslayer: I think the patch should work like this: detect when Amarok is actually _shown_ (which is not so easy), and then trigger the resize() | 16:55 |
| shadeslayer | hmm | 16:56 |
| markey | it's the hackiest patch ever: | 16:56 |
| markey | m_mainWindow->resize( m_mainWindow->width(), m_mainWindow->height() - 1 ); | 16:56 |
| markey | m_mainWindow->resize( m_mainWindow->width(), m_mainWindow->height() + 1 ); | 16:56 |
| markey | :p | 16:56 |
| shadeslayer | yeah :D | 16:56 |
| shadeslayer | ok now i really need to finish kdelibs merge or ScottK will come after me :P | 16:57 |
| markey | kk | 16:57 |
| markey | apachelogger: you're a big fan of hacks that make baby jesus cry, right? see above ^ | 16:58 |
| markey | :D | 16:58 |
| apachelogger | :O | 16:59 |
| dasKreech | It's an opportunity | 16:59 |
| apachelogger | you just topped the way I triggered painting of a whole graphicsscene to get a video .... | 16:59 |
| apachelogger | by like a 1000000 times | 16:59 |
| * apachelogger needs a cigarette | 17:00 | |
| markey | smoking is bad, m'kay? I stopped long ago, and here I'm sitting with a nice tasty cigar | 17:01 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: drugs + KDE == fluffy ? :) | 17:01 |
| markey | can't stop loving cigars.... screw cigarettes though | 17:02 |
| dasKreech | Outside of Soviet Russia. Ciggies screw you! | 17:03 |
| shadeslayer | hehe ... | 17:04 |
| * shadeslayer gets 2 tickets for Russia and gives one to apachelogger | 17:04 | |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: how did you sync control and control.in in the last merge? i dont understand | 17:05 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdelibs/4:3.5.10.dfsg.1-3ubuntu1 :: specifically | 17:05 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: control.in should rebuild control if it's changed when you build the source package, IIRC. | 17:05 |
| ScottK | I may have in fact just hand edited them both to be sure. I don't recall. | 17:06 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: hmm... right now the diff between control and control.in is http://paste.ubuntu.com/503992/ , i dont think it needs any work, can you tell me if im right? | 17:07 |
| shadeslayer | im working with control.in only for the second time i think | 17:07 |
| dasKreech | shadeslayer: nice airlines :) they have tickets for Russia and separate ones for Soviet Russia? :) | 17:07 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: line 26 you want to fix | 17:07 |
| shadeslayer | dasKreech: hahaha :P | 17:08 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: ah ok .. | 17:08 |
| shadeslayer | 18 too i guess? | 17:09 |
| ScottK | Yes, but less important. | 17:17 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: erm.. i find 2 patches in debian/patches that have not been documented ( 17_kdelibs_rubberband.diff and 19_debianize_useragent.diff ) | 17:28 |
| shadeslayer | from debian package | 17:28 |
| ScottK | As long as they aren't new, I wouldn't worry about it. That's a VERY old package. | 17:29 |
| shadeslayer | hmm... yeah i noticed :( | 17:29 |
| shadeslayer | but since the changelog doesnt mention them... | 17:30 |
| ScottK | I'm reasonabyl sure 19 isn't needed, but I really wouldn't change more than I have to in that package. | 17:31 |
| JontheEchidna | if I had to guess, I'd think that the package would be almost as old as debian itself | 17:32 |
| shadeslayer | hehe ... | 17:32 |
| shadeslayer | then theres 68_support_khelpcenter4.diff | 17:33 |
| shadeslayer | dunno where that came from either | 17:33 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: do we want debian/tmp/usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/kspell/* ? | 17:43 |
| ScottK | I don't remember. | 17:44 |
| shadeslayer | hmm... debian has them... | 17:45 |
| ScottK | JontheEchidna: No, KDE didn't get to Debian until ~2000 IIRC. Debian is considerably older. | 17:45 |
| shadeslayer | but we didnt for last release | 17:45 |
| shadeslayer | also ... its that time of the year again :D | 17:45 |
| Riddell | ScottK: the KDE packages have been around almost as long as Debian, I think they were even in Debian before they got kicked out | 17:55 |
| ScottK | Ah. I did not know that. | 17:55 |
| Riddell | anyway, why is shadeslayer looking at the kde 3 libs package? | 17:55 |
| DarkwingDuck | Hey Riddell, ScottK | 17:56 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Security fixes in a merge from Debian. | 17:56 |
| ScottK | Hello DarkwingDuck | 17:56 |
| shadeslayer | im almost done | 17:56 |
| shadeslayer | need to test build after this | 17:56 |
| DarkwingDuck | Making the move back to california | 17:56 |
| Riddell | hi DarkwingDuck | 17:58 |
| Riddell | "I just finished uploading the first set of KDE 4.5.2 tarballs." | 17:58 |
| jjesse | hello DarkwingDuck | 17:58 |
| Riddell | ~ninjas | 17:58 |
| Riddell | or something like that | 17:58 |
| shadeslayer | !ninjas | 17:58 |
| jjesse | DarkwingDuck i thought you were moving to indiana? | 17:58 |
| ubottu | Ninja Time! apachelogger, bulldog98, debfx, JontheEchidna, Lex79, maco, neversfelde, nhandler, Quintasan, rgreening, Riddell, ScottK, stalcup, txwikinger | 17:58 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: we does not have kubotu :( | 17:58 |
| jjesse | wow only getting 4.6 kb/s down on the torrent of the rc :( | 17:59 |
| shadeslayer | and i forgot about !kubuntu :P | 17:59 |
| DarkwingDuck | Job fell through | 17:59 |
| jjesse | bummer | 17:59 |
| shadeslayer | jjesse: zsync++ | 17:59 |
| rgreening | yo | 17:59 |
| shadeslayer | rgreening: to the bat cave! | 17:59 |
| jjesse | shadeslayer: can't figure out zsync on my windows 7 box i'm on | 17:59 |
| jjesse | :( | 17:59 |
| bulldog98 | shadeslayer: what’s up? | 17:59 |
| shadeslayer | hehe :P | 18:00 |
| rgreening | na-na na-na na na... | 18:00 |
| DarkwingDuck | Aye but, cali is where I belong | 18:00 |
| maco | rgreening: batman? | 18:00 |
| shadeslayer | bulldog98: 4.5.2 on ktown ... | 18:00 |
| shadeslayer | haz fun.. i have to finish kde 3 libs first :P | 18:00 |
| rgreening | maco rul3z | 18:00 |
| txwikinger | ninja time? | 18:01 |
| shadeslayer | oh oh oh oh | 18:01 |
| rgreening | maco == batgirl | 18:01 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: 0.6.1 rekonq out in a few days.. can we haz in final release ? | 18:01 |
| * txwikinger wonders if rgreening wants to be Robin | 18:01 | |
| * ScottK makes a note to let rgreening's wife know he's making advances on young women on IRC. | 18:01 | |
| rgreening | no one wants to be robin | 18:01 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: unlikely | 18:01 |
| shadeslayer | SRU? | 18:02 |
| rgreening | not even robin | 18:02 |
| bulldog98 | shadeslayer: the problem is that I don’t have acces to ktown | 18:02 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: ^ | 18:02 |
| Riddell | bulldog98: we can fix that, where's your ssh key? | 18:02 |
| ScottK | Riddell can fix that. | 18:02 |
| * txwikinger has to prepare for his presentation tomorrow: Kubuntu Hacking | 18:02 | |
| Riddell | txwikinger: where's that? | 18:03 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: what is ksvntopng? :P | 18:03 |
| txwikinger | Southern Ontario Hackerspace Conference Riddell | 18:03 |
| Riddell | sounds fun | 18:03 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: No idea. | 18:03 |
| shadeslayer | mmmkay | 18:03 |
| txwikinger | Riddell: yeah.. the name badge is a pcb board with microcontroller for prototyping | 18:03 |
| txwikinger | I am trying to build a free toolchain working on Kubuntu for this | 18:04 |
| * txwikinger is wondering about Hackers and their dependency on proprietary software | 18:04 | |
| txwikinger | Riddell: how difficult is it to use kdevelop with a specialised gcc toolchain? | 18:08 |
| Riddell | I've no idea | 18:08 |
| Riddell | I've never used either | 18:09 |
| Riddell | I've never used e | 18:09 |
| txwikinger | :D | 18:09 |
| txwikinger | maybe I just present the hwo to hack Qt stuff | 18:09 |
| shadeslayer | \o/ kdelibs done | 18:09 |
| txwikinger | oh this is interesting: kdevelop: symbol lookup error: kdevelop: undefined symbol: _ZN8KDevelop4Core10initializeENS0_5SetupE | 18:10 |
| shadeslayer | txwikinger: broken packages :S | 18:11 |
| shadeslayer | txwikinger: which release ? | 18:11 |
| txwikinger | shadeslayer: lucid | 18:11 |
| shadeslayer | txwikinger: i mean which kdevelop version ? | 18:11 |
| txwikinger | ah.. I think it is still the old kdevelop-kde4 package lingering around | 18:13 |
| txwikinger | what is the ninja time for... maverick or preparing for m+1? | 18:14 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: do you know why rekonq seems to not pick up our font settings? | 18:14 |
| Riddell | it seems to like Liberation over Ubuntu | 18:14 |
| shadeslayer | hmm | 18:14 |
| shadeslayer | i think it uses its own config files | 18:14 |
| shadeslayer | there was a discussion about that IIRC | 18:14 |
| txwikinger | ok.. this kdevelop is better :D | 18:15 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/rekonq/2010-May/001316.html ? | 18:16 |
| shadeslayer | lemme confirm | 18:17 |
| * markey huggles apachelogger | 18:19 | |
| markey | apachelogger: you gonna come to Dornbirn? | 18:19 |
| jjesse | heres a question whenever i go to start the 386 rc download torrent i get a message the file is missing | 18:21 |
| jjesse | "errors file missing please recheck" | 18:22 |
| bulldog98 | Riddell: https://edge.launchpad.net/%7Ebulldog98/+sshkeys the JonathansRechner one | 18:24 |
| bulldog98 | shadeslayer: can you remind adjam that the translation for documentation has to be includet into the next tarball | 18:25 |
| Riddell | bulldog98: ssh ftpubuntu@ktown.kde.org | 18:25 |
| Riddell | hmm, documentation translations | 18:25 |
| shadeslayer | bulldog98: i think he already mentioned it | 18:25 |
| bulldog98 | shadeslayer: ok | 18:25 |
| shadeslayer | i hate these patches :S | 18:27 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: do you guys still have some 10.04 Kubuntu CD stock left over? | 18:29 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: I think we do | 18:29 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: want to take them off canonical's hands? | 18:29 |
| shadeslayer | yeah sure :) | 18:29 |
| Riddell | how many? | 18:29 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: not for me, one of my friends wants them, he will mail you the details :D | 18:30 |
| shadeslayer | ( he will distribute them in his tech fest ) | 18:30 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: I need a postal address where someone will be in to collect them and a phone number | 18:31 |
| shadeslayer | sure .. | 18:31 |
| maco | hmm i suspect the dc loco could use some too. i think there are more kde users than gnome users among us, so we tend to give out the kubuntu cds pretty quickly | 18:33 |
| Riddell | same rules then | 18:34 |
| debfx | markey: this patch seems to work: http://people.ubuntu.com/~debfx/amarok_resize_window_hack.diff | 18:43 |
| markey | debfx: looking now | 18:44 |
| Riddell | dantti: was there a patch for kpackagekit updates? | 18:46 |
| shadeslayer | bahahaha ... archive skew | 18:49 |
| shadeslayer | bzip2: Depends: libbz2-1.0 (= 1.0.5-4) but 1.0.5-4ubuntu1 is to be installed. | 18:49 |
| lex79 | in pbuilder? | 18:52 |
| shadeslayer | lex79: yus | 18:52 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: did you get the mail? | 18:52 |
| lex79 | just login into pbuilder and run the upgrade | 18:52 |
| shadeslayer | ok ... lets see :) | 18:53 |
| shadeslayer | lex79: great works :D | 18:55 |
| lex79 | :) | 18:55 |
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| Riddell | shadeslayer: yes thanks | 18:58 |
| ScottK | Riddell: The font fixes for the various default settings packages are accepted. | 19:00 |
| Riddell | thanks | 19:03 |
| Riddell | silly mistake that | 19:03 |
| lex79 | so finally we have the right font ;) | 19:05 |
| Riddell | go go ninjas https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging | 19:05 |
| shadeslayer | i wonder when the wiki gets a new theme | 19:06 |
| lex79 | since we broken the rules yesterday, today we can upload 4.5.2 in the archive? | 19:06 |
| * lex79 giggles | 19:06 | |
| shadeslayer | hehe.. i dont think so | 19:06 |
| lex79 | why not? :) | 19:07 |
| shadeslayer | IIRC we are supposed to release with 4.5.1 | 19:07 |
| Riddell | that'll annoy both ubuntu people (for breaking freezes with stuff we havn't sufficiently tested) and upstream (for releasing packages before they do) | 19:07 |
| lex79 | I know I'm just kidding :P | 19:08 |
| * maco checks the setting on Riddell's Humour Detector | 19:08 | |
| maco | oh or maybe you have an imbalance of the humours? | 19:08 |
| * lex79 takes the hand of maco for a dance | 19:11 | |
| maco | im thinking of a Doctor Who episode now | 19:13 |
| lex79 | :) | 19:13 |
| nixternal | just reformat/reinstall maverick. hot! only issue thus far is the stupid ass intel/mesa/whatever issue that prevents and/or corrupts the display | 19:18 |
| nixternal | prevents compositing that is | 19:18 |
| shadeslayer | lex79: issue still present :( | 19:20 |
| shtylman | apachelogger: out of curiosity, how does office fail when using the raster engine? | 19:20 |
| lex79 | shadeslayer: where? | 19:20 |
| shadeslayer | lex79: when running pdebuild | 19:20 |
| lex79 | did you say that it worked before? | 19:21 |
| shadeslayer | yes, but as in, when i logged in -> ran dist-upgrade it worked fine | 19:21 |
| lex79 | did you run sudo pbuilder login with --save-after-login ? | 19:22 |
| shadeslayer | no ... :S | 19:23 |
| lex79 | eh | 19:23 |
| debfx | shtylman: openoffice crashes right after starting it | 19:32 |
| shtylman | nice | 19:38 |
| howlymowly | hi poeple... I am using ubuntu on my laptop... my soundcard works, but the maximum volume level is very low (even though i have turned everything to 100% with alsamixer). does anyone know how to configure the maximum sound level? | 19:39 |
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| Riddell | oh, nixternal gone | 19:41 |
| shadeslayer | !support | howlymowly | 19:42 |
| ubottu | howlymowly: The official Kubuntu support channel is #kubuntu. Please be aware that this channel is for development only. | 19:42 |
| shadeslayer | lex79: v | 19:44 |
| shadeslayer | http://paste.ubuntu.com/504082/ | 19:44 |
| shadeslayer | hmm..libart... | 19:45 |
| lex79 | this means you didnt' save the changes when you exit from pbuilder chroot | 19:46 |
| shadeslayer | erm.. im running pdebuild, im not in pbuilder chroot | 19:47 |
| shadeslayer | apparently control.in wasnt edited to remove arts | 19:47 |
| lex79 | I don't know about pdebuild | 19:47 |
| shadeslayer | hmm im sleeping, too tired to continue this... | 19:49 |
| Riddell | control.in files are evil | 19:53 |
| ScottK | You'd love updating python-defaults then. | 20:11 |
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| apachelogger | shadeslayer: ooo going down | 20:56 |
| apachelogger | markey: possibly, still not sure about it | 20:57 |
| dantti | Riddell: I thought there was a patch for that, wasn't it? | 21:06 |
| ScottK | Rats. | 21:10 |
| * ScottK wanted to point agateau at my latest blog post, but he's not here. | 21:11 | |
| * bulldog98 managed to get out what patches were included into kdelibs 4.5.2 | 21:14 | |
| bulldog98 | does someone knows if FAM should be used for kdelibs? cause kdelibs says that FAM and aspell weren’t found | 21:16 |
| ScottK | bulldog98: It's in Universe. No. | 21:18 |
| ScottK | IIRC aspell is on purpose too. | 21:19 |
| bulldog98 | ScottK: ok | 21:19 |
| debfx | ScottK: middle-click would be much more convenient than shift-click | 21:25 |
| ScottK | debfx: Not on my laptop. | 21:25 |
| ScottK | I could see having both though. | 21:25 |
| Riddell | dantti: what what? | 21:25 |
| Riddell | dantti: I don't know if it needs patches or not | 21:26 |
| dantti | Riddell: me neither, yesterday lex79 was asking why weekly is the default check for updates | 21:27 |
| debfx | ScottK: yeah I guess both wouldn't hurt | 21:28 |
| ScottK | debfx: I'd suggest chat with agateau about it when he's around. | 21:28 |
| dantti | Riddell: and btw how will we update kpk ? I can send you that patch but it has the .pngs problem | 21:28 |
| ScottK | (but don't bother with a patch unless you are going to do the Canonical copyright assignment.) | 21:29 |
| lex79 | a new fresh bug 653274 | 22:13 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 653274 in linux (Ubuntu) "Plymouth doesn't show Kubuntu logo with Nvidia proprietary driver" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/653274 | 22:14 |
| lex79 | if someone is affected, click on "this bug affects you" | 22:14 |
| lex79 | this is a regression from Lucid | 22:14 |
| bulldog98 | Do I have to write into changelog if I added some files to .install? | 22:50 |
| bulldog98 | And if I fixed that errors must I rebuild it completly? | 22:53 |
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| ScottK | bulldog98: Yes and depending how you build it probably. | 22:58 |
| bulldog98 | ScottK: I tryed it via debuild | 22:59 |
| ScottK | If you've got the partial build available you can add -nc to your dpkg-buildpackage or debuild invocation to avoid clean and recomopling everything. | 22:59 |
| ScottK | You should talk to apachelogger about his hooks so you can have the pbuilder run fail open so you can have access to the build in progress. | 22:59 |
| bulldog98 | ScottK: ok thanks for that info | 22:59 |
| ScottK | You're welcome. | 23:00 |
| bulldog98 | ScottK: do you know what this means: E: libkdecore5: symbols-file-contains-current-version-with-debian-revision on symbol _ZN6Sonnet17BackgroundChecker7restoreEP7KConfig@Base | 23:02 |
| ScottK | bulldog98: Run lintian with -i for a detailed explanation. | 23:03 |
| ScottK | If that isn't enough, ask again and we can discuss. | 23:03 |
| bulldog98 | ScottK: is debuild using as many treads as possible? | 23:04 |
| ScottK | No. | 23:05 |
| ScottK | You need to feed is something like -j $asmanycoresasyouhave | 23:05 |
| bulldog98 | ScottK: Ok that’s really helpfull cause it will speed up everthing (4 times the treads before) | 23:08 |
| apachelogger | well, then, great | 23:11 |
| apachelogger | I am going to take a break | 23:12 |
| * apachelogger is not doing terribly well | 23:12 | |
| apachelogger | o/ | 23:12 |
| Riddell | dantti: yo, what needs updated in kpackagekit? | 23:18 |
| Riddell | PNG diffs are ok, those can be handled in debian packaging these days | 23:18 |
| dantti | Riddell: well you could update everything, since kpk is a svn snapshot | 23:26 |
| dantti | svn diff showed a message instead of a png diff | 23:26 |
| dantti | There are still a few png with quetion marks but I didn't had time to investigate that, cause sometimes the icon is showed and when you pass your mouse over it it shows the question mark... weird enough | 23:28 |
| dantti | sounds like a bug in kdelibs | 23:28 |
| Riddell | ok I'll just take a | 23:32 |
| Riddell | an svn snapshot | 23:32 |
| dantti | perfect, if found any issues just poke me | 23:39 |
| lex79 | how to add Affects Ubuntu release notes in a bug? | 23:42 |
| Riddell | lex79: if it's kubuntu add a "kubuntu" tag and milestone to 10.10 | 23:53 |
| Riddell | there's a rag for release notes which I forget now | 23:53 |
| Riddell | check with skeat | 23:53 |
| lex79 | I already did in these days, but they can't fix this bug 653274 | 23:53 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 653274 in linux (Ubuntu) "Plymouth doesn't show Kubuntu or Ubuntu logo with Nvidia proprietary driver" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/653274 | 23:53 |
| lex79 | so it should go in release note | 23:54 |
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