[00:10] <askhl> maxb, https://launchpad.net/~campos-dev/+archive/campos -- the source package is gpaw.  It may also be that I'm making some mistake
[00:11] <maxb> askhl: So, you are trying to copy gpaw from lucid to maverick in that PPA, with "Copy existing binaries" and it is erroring? That's very wrong
[00:12] <askhl> That is what I am trying
[00:12] <maxb> I think that is definitely worth filing a bug against Launchpad about
[00:14] <maxb> ooi, is there any interesting detail in the error message?
[00:14] <askhl> Very strange indeed.  I just copied the other two packages' lucid versions into maverick without any errors
[00:15] <askhl> Only 'The following source cannot be copied:', then 'gpaw 0.7.6974-1~ppa1 in lucid (binaries conflicting with the existing ones)'
[00:15] <maxb> Hmm
[00:18] <askhl> If I'm filing a bug report, what should that be reported against?  'Launchpad itself'?  That has only one bug report, which seems a bit suspicious
[00:19] <askhl> Ah, I guess it's soyuz
[00:19] <maxb> askhl: "Launchpad itself" gets used as a clearing house for incoming bugs, which usually then get reassigned to an appropriate subproject. But you can file it directly on soyuz too.
[00:21] <askhl> maxb, I'll just do it in soyuz then
[00:26] <askhl> Okay, bug report filed.  Thank you maxb
[00:27] <askhl> (bug 652556)
[00:27] <ubot5`> Launchpad bug 652556 in Soyuz "cannot copy PPA package to new series, due to non-existing "conflicting binaries" (affected: 1, heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/652556
[00:27] <maxb> I was trying to reproduce it, but am being thwarted by the publisher taking aaaaages
[00:34] <askhl> I can imagine things are a bit slow these days what with the upcoming ubuntu release
[01:35] <wgrant> askhl, maxb: It's because it was copied to karmic, which created an lpia build (because lpia was removed in lucid).
[01:35]  * wgrant finds the bug.
[01:39] <wgrant> askhl, maxb: Probably bug #527551. Try copying from Karmic instead.
[01:39] <ubot5`> Launchpad bug 527551 in Soyuz "Intra-archive copying of a source with a failed build may leave that source uncopyable (affected: 1, heat: 0)" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/527551
[02:12] <askhl> wgrant, thank you, that worked
[02:13] <askhl> and I see you already updated the bug report
[09:21] <kklimonda> wgrant: would that be possible to create an alias submit@b.l.n -> new@b.l.n ?
[09:23] <wgrant> kklimonda: Not really my area. Bugs people ^^?
[09:31] <persia> I'm getting repeated timeouts pressing the delete button from  https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-universe-sponsors/+delete : is this timing or LP being too slow for the cutoffs?
[09:32] <wgrant> persia: Probably the vast number of bug subscriptions making it too slow.
[09:32] <wgrant> lifeless has a branch which allows customisable timeouts, which could work around that.
[09:33] <persia> "There are currently no open bugs."
[09:33] <persia> But I suppose it has to deal with the old ones too :(
[09:33] <wgrant> Right.
[09:33] <persia> Is it worth leaving like this for performance targeting, or should a job be run against the API to move all of those to the new group that replaces this one?
[09:33] <lifeless> persia: please file a bug
[09:33] <lifeless> an API would timeout too
[09:34] <persia> lifeless, We have jobs that batch-move subscriptions that get used for transitons anyway.
[09:34] <persia> (and they don't timeout by doing the parcelling into acceptable-sized chunks outside LP)
[09:38] <persia> lifeless, https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/652800
[09:38] <ubot5`> Launchpad bug 652800 in Launchpad itself "Poor message for team content for old empty teams (affected: 1, heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]
[09:38] <persia> No, that's not it.
[09:38]  * persia tries to find the right LP bug
[09:39] <persia> https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/652802
[09:39] <ubot5`> Launchpad bug 652802 in Launchpad itself "Unable to delete the ~ubuntu-universe-sponsors team (affected: 1, heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]
[09:39]  * persia apologises for unfortunate results of autocompletion
[09:43] <lifeless> stub: is there likely to be high db load just now ?
[09:43] <lifeless> 15002.0 1 SQL-launchpad-main-master UPDATE bugnotificationrecipientarchive SET person=6213 WHERE person=754157
[09:43] <stub> lifeless: nothing unusual on the master
[09:44] <lifeless> persia: got any other OOPS #'s ?
[13:23] <maxb> losa or ~bazaar-experts member: I would like to donate ownership of https://code.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/parrot/trunk-bzr-svn to ~parrot-dev as part of https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad-code/+question/127341, could you do the honours?
[13:27] <mthaddon> maxb: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~parrot-dev/parrot/trunk-bzr-svn
[13:27] <maxb> thanks :-)
[14:00] <nigelb> any losa's around?
[14:00] <nigelb> potential spammer, https://edge.launchpad.net/~andreas-voelklein
[14:00] <nigelb> bug 638755
[14:00] <ubot5`> Launchpad bug 638755 in xemacs21 (Ubuntu) ""apt-get install emacs tuareg-mode" pulls in xemacs21 (affected: 2, heat: 94)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/638755
[14:00] <nigelb> At the end of the bug, there is a list of a few more of his exploits
[14:03] <nigelb> questions opened: https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/127561
[14:06] <mthaddon> nigelb: you want to contact the CHR, not a losa, about that - https://help.launchpad.net/HelpRotation
[14:06] <nigelb> mthaddon: ahh, ok
[14:07] <nigelb> mthaddon: *gasp*, times are in different time zones!
[14:07] <nigelb> matsubara: ping ^^
[14:08] <matsubara> hi nigelb
[14:08] <matsubara> thanks for reminding I'm the CHR for today :-)
[14:09] <nigelb> heh
[14:10] <nigelb> matsubara: can you take a look at https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/127561 ?
[14:11] <nigelb> Also, that chr list could use some love to standardize tz ^-^
[14:13] <matsubara> nigelb, all the times are in UTC ther and have a link to the people location, so not sure what you mean
[14:14] <matsubara> nigelb, also it looks like Bhavani Shankar tried to educate the user about all the spam
[14:15] <matsubara> nigelb, don't you want to wait a little bit more until Andreas has a chance to reply and then we can proceed on blocking the account if (s)he persists?
[14:16] <nigelb> matsubara: sure, its your call :)
[14:17] <nigelb> oh, right.  I should have "clicked" the time.  My bad.
[14:17] <nigelb> Also, Bhavi got in touch with me since he wasn't sure what to do.
[14:19] <matsubara> Nicke_, I think what Bhavi did was the right thing. First try to talk the person, then if the misbehaviour continues we can ban.
[14:20] <matsubara> nigelb, ^
[14:30] <nigelb> matsubara: ok, great :)
[14:31] <nigelb> (sorry, bad connection)
[15:19] <jonasfa> when i follow "Report a bug" on the Ubuntu project, i'm redirected to a Wiki page about reporting bugs :S
[15:19] <deryck> jonasfa, is this by design at the request of the Ubuntu QA team.
[15:20] <deryck> there's a lot of great info on that wiki page about how to file good bugs against Ubuntu, though. :)
[15:20] <jonasfa> deryck: ty. i should have read that page :)
[15:20] <deryck> indeed, it's helpful :-)
[15:22] <jonasfa> when i run `ubuntu-bug` and choose "other problem", it sais i should specify a package :(
[15:22] <jonasfa> but i don't know the package of the app i want to fill a bug
[15:23] <jonasfa> actually, i think the package isn't even installed on my pc
[15:24] <jonasfa> what should i do to fill a bug to a software wich i don't know it's package?
[15:26] <deryck> jonasfa, what is it you want to file a bug about?
[15:31] <jonasfa> deryck: found the package name.. ubiquity
[15:31] <deryck> excellent
[15:40] <cody-somerville> ugh. my hotel wifi is so bad I can't load a single page of Launchpad. :(
[16:05] <nessita> good morning/afternoon! question: is there any way of listing the downloads for a given series? I need to list downloads for https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-sso-client/stable-1-0 so uscan will catch the latest package for that serie. Right now, uscan catches the latest release for trunk series
[16:23] <matsubara> sinzui, can you help nessita ^?
[16:24] <sinzui> nessita, no. The +downloads page is listed by series so they will be together
[16:25] <sinzui> nessita, do you want users to download older versions? Do you maintain several forks of the code for backporting?
[16:27] <nessita> sinzui: yes, we mantain trunk and several stables (one so far, the project is new). So, for maverick, I want to package only the stable-1-0 series releases, since trunk will be natty code
[16:28] <sinzui> okay
[16:28] <sinzui> Do you think https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu-sso-client/stable-1-0/+downloads is what you want?
[16:30] <sinzui> nessita, ^ and then I must ask, why do you want people to download tarballs? As I user, I think I want a package from an archive. As an engineer I want the code. I think external packagers are the only users who want to download a tarball
[16:31] <nessita> sinzui: that url is what I want, yes. And regarding your question, as a user, I do want packages as well, but in order to build packages we need tarballs
[16:31] <nessita> sinzui: and as a packager, I do want to download a tarball, ideally using helping tools like uscan
[16:32] <sinzui> nessita, you do? why don't you provide package via a PPA?
[16:32] <nessita> sinzui: I do provide package via PPA, but in order to build the package I need to download the tarball
[16:33] <sinzui> nessita, if the series is linked to an ubuntu package, their connection could be obvious. We could show the latest release on the package page for each Ubuntu series
[16:33] <sinzui> nessita, do you know about recipes?
[16:33] <nessita> sinzui: not sure what that means :-)
[16:33] <nessita> sinzui: nopes
[16:35] <sinzui> If I were a packager for Ubuntu, I want to subscribe to the Distro source package or the series version. Those pages would send me an email when the linked series has a new release. The pages would also show me the new release.
[16:35] <sinzui> nessita, a recipe is an way to build a package from code. you could have a recipe for the code that builds packages for each version
[16:35] <sinzui> automatically
[16:36] <sinzui> you drink coffee and take all the glory
[16:37] <sinzui> nessita, https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu-sso-client/stable-1-0 does not appear to be linked to an Ubuntu package
[16:38] <sinzui> nessita, https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu-sso-client/+packages shows me a maverick version, but I think you want to get all the version you maintain linked. Certainly lucid since it is LTS
[16:40] <nessita> sinzui: hum, I didn't know about that...
[16:41] <sinzui> nessita, this is the page I think a package would want to subscribe to. It could show the latest release and email you when a new release is made. but a recipe will do the work for you. (recipes will be in general release in a few weeks) https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/+source/ubuntu-sso-client
[16:42] <sinzui> This page too might be the place for a subscription: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-sso-client
[16:44] <nessita> sinzui: thanks for al this info. I will investigate an read about it
[16:44] <nessita> s/al/all
[16:45] <SEJeff_work> My trivial patch to add launchpad support to openid-selector was committed: http://code.google.com/p/openid-selector/issues/detail?id=16
[16:45] <SEJeff_work> sites like bitbucket.org use openid-selector
[17:14] <nessita> sinzui: hello again. I re-read what you've said about linking my stable-1-0 series with a package and I'm not sure what you meant. I'm trying to bind stable-1-0 with the maverick package and I'm getting "The ubuntu-sso-client package in Maverick is already linked to another series."
[17:15] <nessita> sinzui: that means that I should remove the linking between trunk and the maverick package? may the removal break something at release level?
[18:29] <AbhiJit> hello
[18:29] <AbhiJit> does the karma goes decreasing over time perioud is no contribution done?
[18:34] <jml> yes.
[18:49] <guest_> Hi. I have some questions about adding an SSH-key to launchpad. The username@host at the end of the public key, is that just metadata? Can I remove it or change it to something else?
[18:50] <AbhiJit_> jml, ok
[18:51] <mgedmin> guest_, it's a comment field
[18:51] <matsubara> guest_, I believe you can.
[18:51] <mgedmin> typically it contains username@hostname
[18:51] <mgedmin> you must have something there or launchpad will reject your key
[18:54] <guest_> mgedmin: I see. Also, if I add a key, I assume I can remove it later if I for instance get a new key or something and don't want to keep track of the old one?
[18:55] <mgedmin> I also assume so
[18:55]  * mgedmin <-- not a launchpad developer
[18:59] <guest_> ok. Thanks everyone.
[19:00] <rhpot1991> I merged my accounts in the wrong direction can anyone help me with this?
[19:09] <sinzui> nessita, yes, you want to remove the link to trunk and instead link the package to the series that produces the version in Maverick. The goal is for Maverick to know when there are new versions of upstream, and for Maverick to know where to send patches to upstream
[19:10] <nessita> sinzui: ok, thanks!
[19:32] <henry_> hello
[19:38] <rhpot1991> any LP admins: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/127601
[20:23] <rhpot1991> sinzui: saw you responded to my question, if its quicker we can chat in here instead of comments in the question
[20:23] <sinzui> hopefully
[20:24] <rhpot1991> sinzui: I added some more info on there
[20:24] <rhpot1991> I'd be happy if we can just get the good account back and I don't care what happens to the other
[20:25] <sinzui> I cannot do a reenable. it requires db surgery
[20:26] <sinzui> your email address moved to the other profile didn't it
[20:27] <sinzui> rhpot1991, okay I think I see
[20:27] <sinzui> you need to keep using the other link the the email to complete merging
[20:27] <sinzui> rhpot1991, it may time out many times, but you are making progress
[20:28] <rhpot1991> sinzui: ok, I'll keep trying
[20:28] <sinzui> It took me 3 tries this morning to merge a team, and i know one user had to do it 25 times
[20:28] <rhpot1991> can we salvage thigns once that is done?
[20:29] <sinzui> When merge is done all your data will be moved. Then we can fix the name (which takes but a minute)
[20:29] <rhpot1991> ok
[20:29] <rhpot1991> good I'll keep trying and ping you when its good
[20:30] <sinzui> I will be away for 30 minutes.
[20:30] <rhpot1991> sinzui: merged now
[20:30] <rhpot1991> whenever you get a chance, no rush here
[21:03] <sinzui> rhpot1991, does this look better: https://edge.launchpad.net/~rhpot1991
[21:04] <rhpot1991> sinzui: ppa and karma seem to be missing, other than that it looks good
[21:04] <sinzui> rhpot1991, karma is not transferred :(. your first message implies you had a PPA. I
[21:05] <sinzui> do not think merge support that since it implicitly has to delete the PPA
[21:05] <rhpot1991> sinzui: no loss, I can re-push that
[21:05] <rhpot1991> nothing can be done about karma?
[21:05] <sinzui> Nothing I know of sorry.
[21:09] <rhpot1991> thats too bad, I'd settle for a random bump or something (I know I broke 1000), but if you can't do anything then I'll live with it
[21:10] <james_w> is publication not working?
[21:10] <james_w> I have a binary package in a PPA that has been pending for two hours
[21:15] <james_w> and what do you know? now that I ask it is published
[21:16] <rhpot1991> sinzui: thanks for the help
[21:17] <sinzui> My apologies for the broken service. We do intend to fix it in the next few months
[21:24] <rhpot1991> sinzui: oddly it knows my karma history, just not the total: https://launchpad.net/~rhpot1991/+karma
[21:27] <sinzui> rhpot1991, oh, then I think we need to wait for karma cache to be recalculated. That is about 12 hours from now
[21:28] <rhpot1991> sinzui: oh that would be good, I'll just poke at it later
[21:28] <rhpot1991> thanks again for the help
[21:48] <tormod> I think I have seen my mugshot on my LP page, but not now, why is that?