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nhandlerpleia2: Not that I know of00:15
pleia2do we think it would be useful (and maintainable)?00:15
nhandlerpleia2: It wouldn't be too hard to make, but I think the general usecase is that people are looking at the devel wiki pages and follow their links to the mentoring program. I don't know many people who are simply looking for all of the mentoring programs available00:17
pleia2nhandler: well it came up with ubuntu women and beginners team, both have people who aren't involved everywhere trying to seek out mentoring programs and things for people who want to get involved00:18
nhandlerpleia2: I guess it's just the way I think. If I wanted to see if there was a mentoring program in the foo area of the community, I would start at the foo wiki pages, not the mentoring wiki pages.00:19
pleia2nhandler: yeah, so when someone in UW or BT says "I want to do foo" I either tell them "go to foo wiki page and see if they have mentoring/helping program" (this usually overwhelms the person and makes them give up), or I have to do it for them and I was half considering having a personal list ;)00:20
nhandlerpleia2: Well, like I said, it wouldn't be too hard to make such a page (there aren't that many programs). We can then see if it gets used and how much maintainance it requires00:22
pleia2sounds good to me, thanks!00:22
dpmmorning al04:58
dpmall04:59
nhandlerHey dpm04:59
=== nhandler changed the topic of #ubuntu-community-team to: Work Items: http://bit.ly/coZgIY || Things to work on (in order): OpenWeek (Go voluntell people!), Release Parties, UDS Prep
duanedesignhello dpm05:03
* nigelb blinks05:05
nigelbdpm: are you sure your watch is working?05:05
dpmhey nhandler, hey duanedesign05:06
dpmhi nigelb :)05:06
dpmI'm leaving early today, so I'm just shifting work hours to start a bit earlier too :)05:07
nigelbmorning :)05:07
nigelbnhandler: loco day too?05:07
nhandlernigelb: I'll add it once we announce it (so review the announcement email ;) )05:08
nigelboh, right.05:11
duanedesignnigel! :)05:21
nigelbduanedesign: heya!05:21
duanedesignnigelb: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/09/cli-companion-makes-it-easier-to-use.html05:22
duanedesign:D05:22
nigelbyay!05:22
nigelbI saw you talking to persia the other day about clicompanion :)05:22
duanedesignit is nice so many are liking the project05:22
nigelbduanedesign: heh, your hard work is now being recognized :)05:23
duanedesignnigelb: yes. persia is sooo helpful05:23
duanedesignnigelb: i even found a couple videos on YouTube. That was interesting because I got to see how people used/navigated the program05:24
nigelbyay :)05:35
nigelbIRC is soo slient today :/06:32
dholbachgood morning06:33
nigelboh, well, spoke to soon :)06:34
nigelbMorning dholbach :)06:34
dholbachhi nigelb06:35
nigelblaughter for the day :) http://www.jwiltshire.org.uk/content/2010/09/30/locusts/06:36
dpmmorning dholbach!06:49
dholbachhola dpm06:49
duanedesignnigelb: thats funny06:55
nigelbduanedesign: heh :)06:55
duanedesignnigelb: i put some funny comments into CLI Companion for km0r3 to find :) Helps break up the monotony06:56
nigelbduanedesign: haha, easter eggs06:56
duanedesignhmm. I was thinking about doing an open week session. my original idea waws to do something about the different mentor programs and ways you can find help getting involved in the community07:02
nigelb+1, that is a /very/ good idea :)07:03
duanedesignnigelb:  there is a session on 'How to Contribute to Ubuntu'. I might talk to the ilidrissi.amine and make sure we are not going to be overlapping on out topics07:05
jonoanyone here have an android phone?07:13
AlanBellyup07:13
jonowant to try http://www.severedfifth.com/releases/apps/ ?07:13
* AlanBell turns down volume07:13
jonohaha07:14
nigelblol07:14
* nigelb hands AlanBell earplugs07:14
nigelbAlanBell: good morning :)07:14
AlanBellmorning nigelb07:14
AlanBellit runs07:16
nigelbyay07:17
AlanBellinteresting twitter client!07:17
AlanBellthe different options in the menu don't seem to do much, all take me to #severedfifth on twitter07:20
czajkowskialoha07:23
nigelbmorning czajkowski :)07:23
dholbachhiya czajkowski07:24
AlanBellaloha my future compatriot07:24
czajkowskigiving a alk later in my old uni07:24
czajkowskionly remembered last night I ws giving it today at 907:25
dholbachhola ara07:26
aramorning dholbach, all!07:26
nigelbhola ara !07:28
aramorning nigelb07:28
nigelbduanedesign: http://www.ted.com/talks/derek_sivers_keep_your_goals_to_yourself.html07:38
nigelbduanedesign: ^^ really good one :)07:38
dholbachhey kim008:00
kim0dholbach: howdy :)08:00
nigelbmorning kim0 :)08:00
kim0nigelb: morning man08:00
* kim0 waves morning 08:00
jonohey kim008:01
kim0jono: hey .. why aren't you asleep :D08:01
* nigelb hands jono some ambien; GO TO BED!08:02
jononigelb, hehe08:07
nigelb:-)08:08
jonoheaded to bed soon08:08
jonofinishing up some things08:08
AlanBelljono: anything particular you want me to try with the android app?08:09
duanedesignnigelb: that was a really good link!08:24
jonoAlanBell, just if it works08:31
jonothere should be a tweet that says "Rocking"08:31
jonodoes it show a map?08:31
jonook I am headed to bed08:35
jononight, all!08:35
nigelblol, omgubuntu removed cjwatson's comments.10:05
dpmwow, I've just learned about http://www.ylmf.org/en/index.html10:13
dpm1.7 million downloads, not bad10:14
nigelbwhoa, isn't that like against patent laws and copyright?10:14
dpmon the wikipedia page it says no one has complained so far10:18
duanedesigndpm: i tried to get my parents to use that10:20
duanedesigndpm: they refuse to use anything but XP because that is what they know how to use.10:21
dpmduanedesign, ah, so you were trying to be sneaky on them... :)10:22
duanedesign;)10:22
nigelbhaha10:24
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* popey hugs dpm 11:30
* dpm hugs popey (Deleted Items?) :)11:31
popey:)11:37
* popey points kazade at dpm 11:38
dpmhi kazade :)11:39
* kazade thanks dpm for the "Deleted items" bug :D11:39
kazadehi dpm11:39
dpmnothing to thank for, the UK translators did the actual work :)11:40
kazade:)11:40
duanedesignmorning popey12:03
dpmMy only concern is that there might be other places that need translation and that are not supported by language packs, as the now Rubbish Bin is a system folder. But we'll see when the new language packs are out.12:03
dpmso, goodbye everyone, have a great weekend!13:09
akgranerwoo hoo Day 5 of App Dev Week starts in just a few :-)14:44
dholbachI'm calling it a day - have a great weekend everyone and see you on monday15:32
* dholbach gets ready for his mom's 60th birthday party15:32
dholbach… and helps with the preparations15:32
* nigelb hugs dholbach 15:33
nigelbHave a good weekend :)15:33
dholbachnigelb, thanks a lot15:34
* dholbach hugs you all15:34
jonohey all15:47
akgranerhey jono!15:48
nigelbmorning jono15:49
jonohey :)15:49
scott-workubuntu studio will be representing in open week :)15:57
scott-workhi jono15:57
jonohey16:05
jcastro\o/16:05
jcastroI see I am fighting a losing battle on -devel16:13
popey:)16:14
* popey kicks jcastro from irc, its clearly not needed :)16:15
jcastroI shouldn't have responded, I knew they would ignore the "responses privately" thing16:15
jcastropopey: if people expect my dad to learn IRC to use his computer then ... really.16:15
jcastroI must be an idiot for misunderstanding our entire mission for the past 6 years if we think we should install xchat by default16:16
popeyok, so suppose that's the case, how would we do realtime support?16:18
popeyor would you propose we dont, and just point people to websites like ubuntu forums, stack exchange etc?16:18
jcastroit's been proven time and time again that IRC for normal people doesn't work16:18
popey(not trolling, interested)16:18
jcastrobut I don't have the energy to argue. :p16:18
popeyhmm, its funny i had a similar conversation with the DPL at the weekend about identica. I argued that identica was only good for the circlejerk of free software weenies arguing the moral toss about FLOSS, and not actually a "social network"16:19
popey(compared to twitter)16:19
popeyhis argument is that is the case now, but in the past you could argue the same about linux, but now it's come far enough that my mum can use it16:20
popeyergo, eventually identica (and maybe irc) will eventually be useful for "normals"?16:20
* popey shrugs16:20
* jcastro also shrugs16:20
czajkowskialoha16:27
jcastrohola16:27
nigelbjcastro: I agree.  IRC for normal people doesn't really work.16:27
czajkowskihttp://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/finance/2010/1001/1224280063795.html  Opening up windows to the world16:32
jcastrowe have 40 hours in orlando to figure out what to do for 10.10, I won't be wasting a minute of it talking about irc. :)16:32
nigelbjcastro: but please look at it though16:32
jcastroI have faith in the desktop team16:32
czajkowskithats from an session I septn out in MS last week with an Irish journalist and Ms16:34
czajkowski*spent16:37
vishjcastro: i sent a mail supporting you..! but awaiting moderation :/16:58
vish btw, why is the discussion on -devel?? and not on devel-discuss!16:59
jussiIRC for certain people works. for others it doesnt. (why do we have 100's af new people on irc everyday?) My dad, new user to ubuntu may/maynot use irc. my mate, who I gave a copy of ubuntu, thinks its great he can get support so easy.17:02
jussiOn the whole, it offers another form of support, which some will use and some will not.17:03
vishjussi: irc works to get support, but i wish my mail just got approved already :(17:03
jussivish: hurry up and wait :D17:03
vishjussi: why do we need a irc client, in the install, to get the support..? we could do it by webchat like how the LoCo do it17:04
popey"the loco"?17:04
jussiwebchat? in #ubuntu?17:04
jussiit suprises me that we have an overflowing #ubuntu, but people still say "irc is not needed, normal people dont use it"17:04
vishhttp://loco.ubuntu.com/irc/17:05
popeyi had _no_ idea that existed17:05
vishjust have a link to something like that in support.ubuntu.com/irc17:05
jussithats not particularly easy in #u with the webchat control17:05
sensegood afternoon17:06
vish well, thats the technical aspect of irc control, but not really an end user issue..17:06
popeyhah17:06
popeyand you get dumped in #ubuntu-proxy-users17:06
popeyand it says "Try again joining #ubuntu," but doesn't say how17:07
popeyalso talks about killing my browser17:07
jussido you not get a topic with that client?17:07
popeythats a bit extreme17:07
popeyyes17:07
popeybut its all incomprehensible technobabble17:08
jussiwait a sec...17:08
jussihrm, there is some issue there...17:08
popeythere's a few :)17:08
jussithat should be a little more elegant, Ill have a look into it17:09
popeythanks17:09
popeywant me to file bugs?17:09
jussiyes please17:09
popeyok17:09
jcastrovish: nooooooooo! :)17:24
vishhehe ;p17:24
jcastrojono: top of this hour would be a perfect call time for me18:23
czajkowskitis crazy looking at places to rent with no photos, how are you meant to judge a place18:32
jonojcastro, won't be long19:13
jcastrono worries19:13
jonojcastro, lets roll19:18
jonoskype19:18
jcastrook19:18
jcastro one sec19:20
jcastromy skype is complaining19:20
jononp19:20
doctormoToday is really very boring, is anyone doing anything exciting?19:36
AlanBelltoday I have been mostly looking at errors in groundcontrol19:37
AlanBellinvalid url supplied to transport: "lp:~alanbell/%2Bbranch/Loco Webchat iframed":No such project:%252BBranch19:38
doctormoAlanBell: LOL!19:38
doctormoAlanBell: Which version are you working on? the 1.6.6 stuff from source tarball or the trunk which is really 2.x (I haven't figured out tagging or doing proper series branches yet)19:39
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doctormoAnyone know much about telepathy tests or who to ask about them?19:48
AlanBelldoctormo: just the ground control in maverick19:52
jcastroJFo: que pasa?20:07
jcastroI need a quick favor sir if you have time!20:07
jcastroyou know ... it is friday20:18
jcastroso feast on this: http://thedailywh.at/post/1221870022/danzig-doing-normal-people-stuff-of-the-day20:18
jcastrojono: ^^^20:18
senseOff-topic, but I cannot resist: http://www.youtube.com/user/VPROinternational is a great collection of very good quality documentaries from Dutch television, subtitled in English. Great to see things from another point of view, and to see documentaries about subjects you'd hear little about else.20:33
senseA real goldmine.20:34
Pendulumsense: well one's on google, so that's semi-relevant :P20:36
senseAh!20:36
senseYeah, that was on purpose, really!20:36
Pendulum:)20:36
JFojcastro, hey man, sorry for the delay. Suffering from a major headache.20:51
JFowhat can I do for you? :)20:51
jcastrono worries20:51
jcastroif you can russle me an answer in -kernel wrt. TRIM for sure, since I am sitting here with the drive ready to go I would appreciate it20:52
jcastroAND20:52
jcastroin return I will go flag all the wrong articles on the forums about TRIM20:52
JFok20:53
jcastro(I know you answered it in the past, but I keep reading more and more that it's not just ootb)20:53
jcastroso like, a hammer-smashing "this is the truth" would help me out.20:53
JFowill do21:00
czajkowskiJFo: who best to poke about https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-173/+bug/64644922:32
ubot2Launchpad bug 646449 in nvidia-graphics-drivers-173 (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "package nvidia-173 173.14.22-0ubuntu11 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 10 (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]22:32
nhandlerThe new tshirts look rather nice.22:49
doctormonhandler: linky"22:57
doctormo?22:57
nhandlerdoctormo: http://design.canonical.com/2010/10/11283/22:58
duanedesignevening all23:28

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