=== jjohansen is now known as jj-afk === inkvizitor68sl is now known as ink|off|ZNC === ink|off|ZNC is now known as inkvizitor68sl [06:34] good morning === inkvizitor68sl is now known as ink|off|ZNC === ink|off|ZNC is now known as inkvizitor68sl === inkvizitor68sl is now known as ink|off|ZNC === ink|off|ZNC is now known as inkvizitor68sl === inkvizitor68sl is now known as ink|off|ZNC === doko_ is now known as doko [15:58] * marjo waves [15:58] * skaet starting to get ready for last maverick release meeting... [15:59] skaet: woohoo! [15:59] marjo: yup... its getting exciting. :D [15:59] \o [15:59] hi ScottK [16:00] * joshuahoover waves [16:00] \o [16:00] hi joshuahoover, robbiew :) [16:01] hey [16:01] hi seb128, I'm seeing most of the others in the channel, so, time to start... [16:02] #startmeeting [16:02] Meeting started at 10:02. The chair is skaet. [16:02] Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] [16:02] Great work over the last week, a big thank you to everyone! [16:02] Awesome job on pulling the images together Riddell!! :D [16:02] * GrueMaster in for arm as ogra discovered that his arm image doesn't work when used to overwrite his x86 system... [16:03] cool, welcome GrueMaster [16:04] I'm aware of only one critical bug left (bug #641259) - other than the one that GrueMaster just ref'd and that's being actively worked right now too ;) [16:04] Launchpad bug 641259 in grub2 (Ubuntu Maverick) "grub does not appear to load after maverick post-beta install" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/641259 [16:04] Its really cool to watch this release coming together so well, due to all of your efforts... [16:04] skaet: I'll be working with cjwatson to debug on my netbook [16:04] on bug 641259 [16:05] thanks marjo. :) [16:05] Agenda for today can be found at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReleaseTeam/Meeting/2010-10-01 [16:05] just so people know, There's been a minor formatting change, just wanted to let you know that the bolded bugs are the ones that made it into the release candidate TechnicalOverview's Issues section [16:06] oh good, I was wondering what that meant [16:06] :) [16:07] robbiew, wants the focus for this last meeting to be to be mostly on what can be closed off for release, and what will need documentation in the Release Notes. [16:08] so, moving right along... [16:08] [TOPIC] Open action items [16:08] New Topic: Open action items [16:08] all open actions are done. [16:09] thanks ogasawara, robbiew, Riddell :) [16:09] any I missed from last week? [16:10] ok, silence is good here. [16:10] [TOPIC] QA team update - marjo [16:10] New Topic: QA team update - marjo [16:10] skaet: may i include the RC test report? [16:10] yes please. :) [16:10] = Maverick RC Test Report - 1st October 2010 = [16:10] === Test Coverage === [16:10] * Image Coverage: 100% [16:10] * Mandatory Testcase Coverage: 199/203 = 98.03% [16:10] * "Run Once" Testcase Coverage: 18/19 = 94.74% [16:10] === Test Failure Analysis === [16:10] * 16 Test Failures [16:10] * Failure Rate 16/237 = 6.75 === ink|off|ZNC is now known as inkvizitor68sl [16:11] very good test results! thanks to everyone who helped with the ISO testing [16:11] we appreciate it very much; failure rate is down to 6% [16:12] do you have a summary of the remaining failures? [16:13] cjwatson: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/ReleaseReports/MaverickRCTestReport [16:13] i think it's better than listing it here [16:14] sweet results overall marjo. many thanks to everyone who's been testing the candidate! [16:14] * Hardware Testing [16:14] Laptops: [16:14] Passed: 44 (94%) Failed: 0 ( 0%) Untested: 3 ( 6%) [16:14] Servers: [16:14] Passed: 51 (76%) Failed: 15 (22%) Untested: 1 ( 2%) [16:14] Netbooks: [16:14] Passed: 13 (81%) Failed: 0 ( 0%) Untested: 3 (19%) [16:14] Desktops: [16:14] Passed: 12 (86%) Failed: 0 ( 0%) Untested: 2 (14%) [16:15] http://people.canonical.com/~fader/hw-testing/current.html [16:15] LINK received: http://people.canonical.com/~fader/hw-testing/current.html [16:15] * Boot Performance [16:15] Boot Performance Week of 2010-09-24 to 2010-09-30 [16:15] ------------------------------------------------- [16:15] Number of system regressions on Ubuntu Desktop: 0 [16:15] Number of system regressions on Ubuntu Netbook Edition: 2 [16:15] * Dell Inspiron 530 (Desktop) [1] +10.49 [16:15] * Sun Ultra 20 (Desktop) +12.06 [16:15] [16:15] [1] - [16:15] http://people.canonical.com/~cr3/netbook/public_html/daily-bootcharts/200708-156.html [16:15] LINK received: http://people.canonical.com/~cr3/netbook/public_html/daily-bootcharts/200708-156.html [16:15] [2] - [16:15] http://people.canonical.com/~cr3/netbook/public_html/daily-bootcharts/200609-30.html [16:15] LINK received: http://people.canonical.com/~cr3/netbook/public_html/daily-bootcharts/200609-30.html [16:15] Number of system regressions on Kubuntu: 0 [16:16] robbiew: please note regression for your initial triage [16:16] heh [16:16] not enough data to be concerned about...but thx for the heads up [16:16] robbiew: i'll take that as an "ack" [16:17] * Spec Status [16:17] http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-platform-qa-ubuntu-10.10.html [16:17] Beautiful and very productive graph [16:17] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/qa-maverick-improving-communication [16:17] ara on track for end-of-release [16:17] LINK received: http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-platform-qa-ubuntu-10.10.html [16:17] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/qa-maverick-mago-daily [16:17] Beta available and we are getting help from JamesPage on packaging Hudson. [16:17] skaet: that's it from QA team [16:17] just FYI, using the "LP:#nnnnnn" form in the RC test report wiki makes it hard to follow links - removing the # would help [16:18] cjwatson: thx for the feedback; will rework accordingly [16:18] thanks marjo, anyone else have questions? [16:19] [TOPIC] Security team update - jdstrand [16:19] New Topic: Security team update - jdstrand [16:19] o/ [16:19] o/ [16:19] [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/ReleaseStatus/Maverick [16:19] LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/ReleaseStatus/Maverick [16:19] [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/maverick/canonical-security.html [16:19] LINK received: http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/maverick/canonical-security.html [16:19] The team has been reviewing security bugs that affect the maverick release, and have been pushing last minute updates in as needed. [16:19] We reviewed the AppArmor profiles using jj's patches from the 0-day update kernel. Things look good there. [16:19] cool. [16:19] The team has and is continuing to perform various audits on the RC images, and so far everything looks good. [16:20] these include various RNG tests and files in the default install (eg, suid, world writable, etc) [16:20] We have several bugs that have been deferred for SRU (see SecurityTeam/ReleaseStatus/Maverick) [16:21] In terms of release targeted bugs, we are looking at bug #600549, which recently moved back to Confirmed from Fix Released. [16:21] Launchpad bug 600549 in m2crypto (Ubuntu Maverick) "m2crypto fails to build from source in maverick" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/600549 [16:21] that's pretty much it [16:21] thanks. does it look like 600549 will get addressed in time? or something complicated? [16:22] skaet: it was something simple last time. I only just noticed it this morning [16:22] skaet: so I'm not totally sure [16:22] fair 'nuf. [16:22] I suspect it's a ssl v2 test that fails because we don't support v2 [16:23] * jdstrand was thinking the same [16:23] but mdeslaur looked at it before, and I asked him to look at it this time [16:23] thanks jdstrand, any other questions? [16:23] [TOPIC] Kernel team update - ogasawara [16:23] New Topic: Kernel team update - ogasawara [16:23] [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Maverick [16:23] [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/maverick/canonical-kernel-team-ubuntu-10.10.html [16:23] [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/maverick/canonical-kernel-team.svg [16:23] LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Maverick [16:23] LINK received: http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/maverick/canonical-kernel-team-ubuntu-10.10.html [16:23] LINK received: http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/maverick/canonical-kernel-team.svg [16:23] For the bugs noted in the agenda, status is as follows: [16:24] Bug 633983 - Per apw's investigation, this is most probabally an incompatibility between the Mac EFI implementation and the CDs; amd64 images now have specific EFI support and this is reported as a problem with Win7 CDs on these machines also. To confirm this we need to remaster the amd64 CD without EFI support. A remastered image has now been made available and testing requested. [16:24] Launchpad bug 633983 in linux (Ubuntu Maverick) "Can't boot Maverick beta amd64 live cd on macbook (EFI)" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/633983 [16:24] Bug 633392 - Debug info not showing any obvious kernel errors, still investigating. [16:24] Launchpad bug 633392 in linux (Ubuntu) "Bridged Guests losing network connectivity" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/633392 [16:24] Bug 628029 - Release noted - "Due to current hardware limitations it is not possible to use suspend on the Ubuntu ARM images for pandaboards (OMAP4) even though the suspend option is shown in the logout menu." [16:24] Launchpad bug 628029 in linux-ti-omap4 (Ubuntu Maverick) "[maverick] panda omap4 does not suspend" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/628029 [16:24] Bug 497546 - diwic is investigating. [16:24] Launchpad bug 497546 in alsa-driver (Ubuntu Maverick) "Microphones not working on Dell Vostro 320" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/497546 [16:24] Bug 503790 - Have posted a Maverick test kernel, waiting for feedback. [16:24] Launchpad bug 503790 in linux (Ubuntu) "Copy to USB thumbdrive doesn't work" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/503790 [16:25] We are planning for a day 0 kernel upload which primarily consists of security updates, see bug 647071 for more info. We are continuing to queue Maverick SRU patches, including the 2.6.35.5, 2.6.35.6, and 2.6.35.7 upstream stable patch sets. Also, all of our work items have been closed for the Maverick cycle. [16:25] Launchpad bug 647071 in linux (Ubuntu Maverick) "0-day Maverick Kernel Upload" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/647071 [16:25] sweet [16:25] We've also done a last minute upload of module-init-tools to temporarily disable 11n functionality for the iwlagn driver until Intel releases updated firmware to resolve bug 630748. Can we get an archive admin to approve this from the upload queue? [16:25] Launchpad bug 630748 in module-init-tools (Ubuntu Maverick) "iwlagn degrades quickly during normal wifi session" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/630748 [16:25] if it's in the upload queue it'll be looked at [16:25] perfect, thanks [16:26] Any other questions? [16:26] got one [16:26] yeah, that should be fine, will approve [16:26] asac noticed that alt-printscreen stopped working [16:26] it seems it doesn't even trigger a key event in xev [16:27] was that a kernel change on how sysreq,printsreen is handled? [16:27] we failed to figure what part of the stack could be to blame, asac though it might be a kernel option for sysreq [16:27] ? [16:28] seb128: ah that bug, from a kernel perspective it's expected behavior, ie SysRq handling is enabled by default thus Alt+PrtScrn is interpreted as SysRq [16:28] hum [16:28] so what do you suggest as a way to fix the "take a screenshot"? [16:28] seb128: I posted 3 suggested options to the bug [16:28] ok, I need to find the bug [16:29] I just discussed on IRC so I was not sure there was a bug open and on what component [16:29] I will check for it thanks [16:29] seb128: I've got the bug # here somewhere, will ping you with it [16:29] ogasawara, thanks [16:29] that's it from me ;-) [16:29] thanks ogasawara, nice update - will use your release noted comments. [16:29] any other questions? [16:29] seb128: bug 642792 [16:29] Launchpad bug 642792 in metacity (Ubuntu Maverick) "ALT+PrtSc not recognised" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/642792 [16:30] [TOPIC] Foundations team update - cjwatson [16:30] New Topic: Foundations team update - cjwatson [16:31] [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FoundationsTeam/ReleaseStatus/Maverick#RC%20Milestoned%20bugs [16:31] LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FoundationsTeam/ReleaseStatus/Maverick#RC%20Milestoned%20bugs [16:31] Lots of bugs from the agenda fixed. One or two more things still in progress. [16:31] Bug 641259 - grub does not appear to load after maverick post-beta install [16:31] Launchpad bug 641259 in grub2 (Ubuntu Maverick) "grub does not appear to load after maverick post-beta install" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/641259 [16:31] * I'll debug this on Wednesday once I get my hands on an affected machine. Unfortunately there's no practical way to do it earlier. [16:31] Bug 610898 - Upgrading Wubi systems from 10.04 LTS is known to fail if Wubi was installed to a partition other than the primary Windows partition, and is not recommended at this time. [16:31] Launchpad bug 610898 in lupin (Ubuntu) "grub-pc upgrade renders computer unbootable when Wubi is installed to partition other than Windows" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/610898 [16:31] * This is probably release notes fodder as I suspect that we would have needed information to be saved at initial install time in order to know where C: is with any reliability; but advice from Windows experts welcome. [16:31] Bug 642344 - libspring-2.5-java needs an initial manual build [16:31] Launchpad bug 642344 in libspring-2.5-java (Ubuntu Maverick) "libspring-2.5-java needs an initial manual build" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/642344 [16:31] * In progress with IS. [16:31] Bug 594162 - segmentation fault while downloading preseed file [16:31] Launchpad bug 594162 in busybox (Ubuntu Maverick) "segmentation fault while downloading preseed file" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/594162 [16:31] * This may still turn out to be intractable, but we have a possible patch in a PPA for testing now. [16:31] Bug 633983 - Can't boot Maverick beta amd64 live cd on macbook (EFI) [16:31] Bug 652522 - modules missing from omap netboot image [16:31] * Straightforward non-intrusive fix. [16:31] Other than that we're looking at build failure bugs and upgrade bugs as time permits. [16:31] Launchpad bug 633983 in linux (Ubuntu Maverick) "Can't boot Maverick beta amd64 live cd on macbook (EFI)" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/633983 [16:31] Launchpad bug 652522 in debian-installer (Ubuntu) "modules missing from omap netboot image." [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/652522 [16:31] * I think this will need to be release-noted as an unresolvable conflict between support for UEFI systems coming down the pipe and support for the Mac EFI implementation. The i386 CD is still BIOS-only and we'll try to keep it that way. [16:32] -- [16:33] release note fodder, noted. ;) thanks. [16:33] marjo: (note my comment above about 594162, in case your folks don't notice the update on the bug) [16:34] cjwatson: thx [16:34] any questions? [16:34] ... or am I rushing things? [16:34] cjwatson: Do we need to have netboot images for omap4 as well? [16:35] If so, I'll add that to D-I [16:35] GrueMaster: if we do then it's too late [16:35] ok. [16:35] Pick it up in N [16:35] GrueMaster: they'd need to have had at least some testing well before this, I'd have thought [16:36] I mean, we don't have *any* d-i images for omap4 [16:36] I was only told about omap yesterday. [16:36] right, we've been building other d-i omap images for some time though [16:36] I'll bring it up with ogra offline. [16:36] so it's a matter of fixing existing images rather than adding new ones [16:37] if it is declared necessary by People In Charge then please let me and skaet know ASAP ... [16:37] will do. [16:38] anything else cjwatson, before moving on? [16:38] not from me [16:38] cool. thanks cjwatson [16:39] [TOPIC] Server team update - ttx [16:39] New Topic: Server team update - ttx [16:39] Hi o/ [16:39] (/me is standing in for ttx) [16:39] We seem to be in a really good position at the moment. Perhaps the calm before the storm from any issues the RC produces. [16:39] hi Daviey [16:39] hi skaet [16:39] I won't repeat the full report (unless anyone wants me to), [16:39] [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/MaverickReleaseStatus [16:39] - status marked in-line. [16:39] LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/MaverickReleaseStatus [16:39] We don't have any High, Critical or Release Milestoned bugs that currently need our attention. [16:39] The RC is lacking a fix for Bug #650893 , but this is an apt-get upgrade and should be on the Final. In all, we seem to be in a really good shape as it stands. [16:40] Launchpad bug 650893 in cups (Ubuntu Maverick) "[maverick] cups does not start at boot time" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/650893 [16:40] (/me is pleased) [16:40] Daviey: Bug #651138 is listed under MOTU, but it's in Main and a server package. FYI. [16:40] Launchpad bug 651138 in likewise-open (Ubuntu Maverick) "likewise-open fails to build from source in maverick" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/651138 [16:40] I am a little concerned with 641259:grub does not load upon reboot after installing. There is no message indicating that grub is loading, nor does holding shift have any effect - ( Unsure of direction, assigned to cjwatson) [16:41] bug #641259 [16:41] Launchpad bug 641259 in grub2 (Ubuntu Maverick) "grub does not appear to load after maverick post-beta install" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/641259 [16:41] ScottK: Ok, one moment... [16:41] I mentioned that in my report above [16:41] of course I can only hope that the issue on Marjo's netbook is the same thing [16:41] 16:31 * I'll debug this on Wednesday once I get my hands on an affected machine. Unfortunately there's no practical way to do it earlier. [16:42] ScottK: Ok, thanks - i'll add that to our watch list. [16:42] ScottK: nobody is currently looking at that one afaik.. but i will make sue it's on someones radar. [16:42] cjwatson: Ah yes, sorry - did read that. [16:42] thanks Daviey , ScottK. will note it as well. [16:43] any other questions? [16:44] not from me o/ [16:44] [TOPIC] Desktop team update - seb128 [16:44] New Topic: Desktop team update - seb128 [16:44] hey [16:44] [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/ReleaseStatus [16:44] [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-desktop-team.html [16:44] - GNOME 2.32 got uploaded [16:44] - Lot of bug fixing in the desktop and unity [16:44] - RC testing was mostly fine, not real blocker issues spotted [16:44] LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/ReleaseStatus [16:44] LINK received: http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-desktop-team.html [16:44] [16:44] bugs: [16:44] * bug #650898: launchpad says it doesn't exist, wrong bug number? [16:44] Error: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: 650898 (https://launchpad.net/bugs/650898) [16:44] * bug #646995: require archive admin processing [16:44] Launchpad bug 646995 in stage (Ubuntu Maverick) "build-depends on NBS libplayercore2-dev/libplayerc2-dev; not fixed in Debian, removed from Debian testing" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/646995 [16:44] * bug #646824: somebody from the community is working on it [16:44] Launchpad bug 646824 in xvidcap (Ubuntu Maverick) "xvidcap fails to build from source" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/646824 [16:44] * bug #639835: has been fixed today [16:45] Launchpad bug 639835 in desktopcouch "Views fail to reconnect after server restart" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/639835 [16:45] * bug #610600: will not be fixed for maverick, also listed in the "need documentation in the release notes" category [16:45] Launchpad bug 610600 in Cheese "Serious video performance regression in cheese (2.28.1->2.30.1)" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/610600 [16:45] * bug #575160: has a candidate fix which is being reviewed [16:45] * bug #640432: is being investigated [16:45] Launchpad bug 575160 in seamonkey (Ubuntu Maverick) "seamonkey 2.0 crashes with 'RenderBadPicture' diagnostics" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/575160 [16:45] Launchpad bug 640432 in xserver-xorg-video-nouveau (Ubuntu Maverick) "X does not start (nouveau)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/640432 [16:45] will look into what snafu'd on 650898. [16:46] seb128, I'll follow up on it, after the meeting with you. [16:47] skaet, ok [16:47] thanks seb128 [16:47] any questions? [16:48] seb128: xvidcap should just need a merge from Debian Multimedia [16:48] (646824) [16:48] ScottK, ok thanks [16:49] You're welcome. [16:49] * skaet looks around... figures its time to move on. [16:49] [TOPIC] Ubuntu one update - joshuahoover [16:49] New Topic: Ubuntu one update - joshuahoover [16:49] [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/MaverickReleaseStatus [16:49] hi! the list of high/critical u1 bugs are found on that release status page i posted [16:49] LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/MaverickReleaseStatus [16:50] we really only have one bug left that we'd like to get in for final (today) if possible... [16:50] bug #647483 - there's some u1-client help text that isn't translatable...nessita chatted with seb128 about the problem (not the specific bug at that time) & it sounded like this would be ok to get in [16:50] Launchpad bug 647483 in Ubuntu One Client stable-1-4 "Ubuntu One help text contains non-translatable text" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/647483 [16:50] if it's not possible, then we'll have to do an sru...i just need to confirm that it's ok to get this in today or not :) [16:51] robbiew, cjwatson: ^^^ [16:51] thanks skaet, forgot to poke them there :) [16:51] heh [16:52] that can still go in but you need to let ubuntu-translators know and you won't get actual translations for release [16:52] (post-release language packs might include them though) [16:52] right...that was my thought (re translations) [16:52] cjwatson, robbiew: ok, i'll let ubuntu-translators know [16:52] that's all i have for ubuntu one...questions? [16:52] I don't see an advantage to doing it now over an SRU then. [16:52] good point [16:52] there is that, yes [16:53] ah, ok...that's true [16:53] less changes in the RC the better :D [16:53] joshuahoover, so for the bugs listed in the agenda, will all need release notes? [16:54] we'll do an sru for that [16:54] skaet: on 617656, yes, for sure === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-lunch [16:55] skaet: on 603590, we can note that one [16:55] skaet: 422178 is released in maverick, we're going to do an sru for lucid and karmic [16:56] skaet: i think that is it [16:56] cool. thanks. will work with you offline then for the wordings? [16:57] any other questions? [16:57] skaet: sure, sounds good :) [16:57] thanks joshuahoover [16:57] [TOPIC] Kubuntu team update - Riddell [16:57] New Topic: Kubuntu team update - Riddell [16:57] ooh, me [16:57] yup. :) [16:57] * Kubuntu 10.10 RC out, went pleasingly smooth [16:57] * http://tinyurl.com/33p7vu3 back up to 15 tagged bugs, none critical, none release blockers [16:57] * Ubuntu font is now default in Kubuntu, slight deviation from the release schedule there but nobody will notice :) [16:57] * upload of Qt expected today (to fix GTK bugs), no other major uploads expected [16:57] * KDM still crashing on logout for some, but workaround in a proposed release note, bug 651294 [16:58] Launchpad bug 651294 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu) "X crash on KDM logout (still - yes, really)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/651294 [16:58] * I'd also like to see bug 634664 fixed [16:58] Launchpad bug 634664 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Updates not installed when selected and internet is available" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/634664 [16:58] ev appeared to think that was by design [16:58] i.e. it's only supposed to download them [16:58] (and yes, maybe the text could be clearer, but we're string-frozen now) [16:58] cjwatson: it doesn't download them. but I've another bug to investigate about ubiquity not getting removed on OEM installs before I hassle him more [16:59] if it doesn't even download them, that hasn't been made clear in the bug [16:59] Riddell: you're certain that updates are available and there aren't any files in /var/cache/apt/archives post-install? [17:00] ev: there are files from the restricted install in /var/cache/apt/archives [17:00] but nothing else [17:00] Riddell: thanks to the kubuntu team, I tested the rc in a vm yesterday and it was a great experience! [17:01] yay [17:01] restricted install? [17:01] the kubuntu team are very rocking [17:01] ev: kubuntu-restricted-addons [17:01] sorry, I mean /target/var/cache/apt/archives [17:01] assuming you haven't rebooted into the final system [17:01] /var/cache/apt/archives after a reboot [17:03] thanks Riddell and Kubuntu team. :) [17:03] hm, at the very least we should be pushing the apt-get stdout to /var/log/installer/debug [17:03] Riddell: I'll look into it on Monday [17:04] any other questions? [17:05] [TOPIC] Desktop Experience - davidbarth [17:05] New Topic: Desktop Experience - davidbarth [17:05] * skaet looks around for davidbarth, anyone know? [17:06] hmm...might have a conflict [17:06] ok, guess better move on for now then... see if he catches up with us later. [17:06] yep [17:07] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopExperienceTeam/MaverickReleaseStatus [17:07] is the the status report [17:07] sorry, just on a call at the same time [17:07] davidbarth, the font change went in yesterday [17:07] there is not much to mention at this point [17:07] bug #649616 [17:07] Launchpad bug 649616 in ubuntu-artwork (Ubuntu Maverick) "FFE: Use font='Ubuntu' as default UI font in default themes" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/649616 [17:08] the last hiccup having been the shotwell issue with the messaging menu, and we've decided to blacklist it at this point, while we review a better fix for that problem [17:08] the font change was the other bug on the radar, and as seb128 mentions, it's in now [17:09] any questions? [17:09] thanks davidbarth. :) [17:09] davidbarth: the font looks awesome [17:10] thanks, i'll pass on the kudos [17:11] ... moving along now... [17:11] [TOPIC] MOTU team update - ScottK [17:11] New Topic: MOTU team update - ScottK [17:11] Hello [17:11] hello [17:11] The only bug left on your list is the wx one. [17:12] I don't think it's really RC anymore. [17:12] Anyone that wants to be TIL wxwidgets is welcome to fix it. [17:12] okie. [17:12] anything that should be on the list that isn't? [17:12] Making good progress on NBS and FTBFS . [17:12] we still have a couple of NBS, too [17:13] many wf which are powerpc specific [17:13] Still some to do. [17:13] shoudl we just ditch those and say "shrug"? [17:13] At some point. [17:13] (a lot of packages FTBFS on powerpc) [17:13] i. e. it's not just a simple rebuild, these were already done [17:13] More FTBFS on armel, but most of them have never built on armel, so don't affect NBS. [17:14] http://skitterman.wordpress.com/2010/09/30/build-failures-as-a-proxy-for-archive-quality/ BTW [17:14] LINK received: http://skitterman.wordpress.com/2010/09/30/build-failures-as-a-proxy-for-archive-quality/ BTW [17:14] skaet: I'm not aware of anything RC that's not on the list and should be. [17:14] cool. :D [17:15] * ScottK is a bit distracted today trying to adjust to the font. [17:15] * ogra_ac wishes he had only font issues :P [17:15] That's all I have. [17:16] ScottK, which day did we decide on as final freeze for MOTU for those not on the images? [17:16] some of the NBS are false positives - omap4 stuff showing up there is a bug [17:16] it's still building [17:16] skaet: I need to look it up. [17:16] it's finished building now actually [17:16] it's still a bug that it shows up there while building though [17:17] ScottK, thanks. [17:17] anyway, should go away in 20 minutes or so [17:17] skaet: Noon UTC on October 6. [17:17] cjwatson: NBS running hourly now? [17:17] yep [17:17] I optimised it, it takes a minute to generate now [17:18] (archive-cruft-check.py runtime plus <10 seconds) [17:19] :-) [17:19] my final question, do we already have staffing for Sunday's release actions? [17:19] ScottK, nice blog post, will ask some questions offline. :) [17:19] Sure thing. [17:20]