| paultag | Hey guys :) | 00:20 |
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| ronj | hai | 00:29 |
| ScottL | hi paultag , ronj | 00:31 |
| paultag | ScottL, howdy, you too ronj :) | 00:32 |
| ScottL | http://www.fossmusicproject.org/public/images/website-mockup-2.png | 01:46 |
| ScottL | mockup of a possible new ubuntu studio website | 01:46 |
| ScottL | comments welcome | 01:47 |
| rlameiro | I like it, a lot | 01:48 |
| ScottL | oh, thanks :) | 01:49 |
| * ScottL is blushing slightly | 01:49 | |
| persia | Unless we have some volunteer to produce news at least once a week, I'm very much against the "News" column | 01:50 |
| persia | What is "Planet Studio"? | 01:50 |
| persia | s/powerfull/powerful/ | 01:51 |
| persia | Layout, colors, etc. are prety :) | 01:51 |
| ScottL | i would like to do quick news myself, for example, a few lines mentioning moving towards the -lowlatency kernel and trying to get it into the archives | 01:51 |
| ScottL | being the default kernel | 01:51 |
| ScottL | news about workflows, just mentioning it and the general idea | 01:52 |
| ScottL | also the news would have rss feed | 01:52 |
| ScottL | "planet studio" could be like ubuntu planet, blog aggregate for ubuntu studio users | 01:52 |
| ScottL | ack'd spelling | 01:52 |
| ScottL | thank you :) | 01:52 |
| ScottL | . | 01:53 |
| ScottL | one thing i forgot in the workflows would be watching a movie | 01:53 |
| ScottL | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Workflows | 01:53 |
| persia | Won't be like Planet Ubuntu then: it would be like Planet Ubuntu Users. | 01:53 |
| ScottL | well, yes, that is technically correct then | 01:54 |
| * persia thinks watching a movie is a Desktop task, and that we should just assume they got it right, and complain at them when they didn't | 01:54 | |
| ScottL | i thought we might consider vlc rather them totem or whatever is current | 01:54 |
| persia | heh. Sorry to be pedantic. I get overfussy about some details. | 01:54 |
| ScottL | i understand, in my bailiwick at work i am the same | 01:54 |
| ScottL | but i wanted to solicit feedback from others about it | 01:55 |
| persia | I think that, except where we can point at some specific reason not to do so, we'd do better to just use the stuff Ubuntu Desktop has. | 01:56 |
| persia | So far, I think our exception list is as follows (but would appreciate correction): | 01:56 |
| persia | 1) we want a lower-latency kernel | 01:56 |
| persia | 2) we distribute audacious rather than rythmbox because we expect most of our users will not be using a music library, but rather playing recently created tracks or sampling tracks from others. | 01:57 |
| persia | 3) We don't use network-manager because it has an unpredictable load profile | 01:57 |
| persia | 4) We don't use indicator-me (or any of the instant-communication-social-media stuff) because it has an unpredictable load profile | 01:58 |
| persia | So, if there was a decision to use, say vlc rather than totem, I'd be more likely to support it if there was a reason that we believed totem could adversely affect the workflow for our target users. | 01:59 |
| ScottL | i that all tracks well and i can't think of anything contrary to point out | 02:37 |
| * ScottL is restarting computer for updates | 02:43 | |
| persia | ScottL, Just to be clear, I'm opinionated, but don't necessarily want to impose my view. I tend to think of ubuntustudio-desktop as being an alternative to ubuntu-desktop for folks that need to not have some stuff, rather than being especially cool or nifty or fun. | 02:53 |
| persia | Whereas the rest of ubuntustudio-* tends to be collections of useful applications that can be installed on either ubuntu-desktop or ubuntustudio-desktop, depending on what the user needs as a base. | 02:54 |
| persia | I'm not sure that this view of things is widely shared, or even aligned with the goals of the project :) | 02:54 |
| ScottL | that's cool persia | 03:18 |
| ScottL | i was just wondering if anyone had experience with vlc and if it was quite better than totem | 03:19 |
| ScottL | i've read many times in paper and on the internet that vlc is quite ace but i really do not watch much video and have no experience really with vlc | 03:19 |
| * holstein is a VLC fanboy | 03:19 | |
| holstein | its one of the first things i install | 03:19 |
| ScottL | lol, xmarks is probably the first thing i install (for firefox bookmarks) | 03:20 |
| holstein | chromium, and chrome has a thing built in | 03:20 |
| holstein | bookmark sync | 03:21 |
| persia | VLC does a lot of cool things that totem can't. Totem tends to provide a more seamless user experience. | 03:21 |
| holstein | the password sync is handy with xmarks though | 03:21 |
| ScottL | holstein, did you see my website mock-up? | 03:21 |
| holstein | ScottL: hmmm | 03:21 |
| ScottL | http://www.fossmusicproject.org/public/images/website-mockup-2.png | 03:21 |
| holstein | pretty sure | 03:21 |
| holstein | YEHA | 03:21 |
| ScottL | i added another column and adjusted some spacings | 03:21 |
| holstein | yeah* | 03:21 |
| holstein | +1 on the layout | 03:22 |
| ScottL | thanks | 03:22 |
| holstein | extra column | 03:22 |
| ScottL | generally the reception has been pleasantly positive | 03:22 |
| holstein | im not a huge fan of the 'set your creativity free' font | 03:22 |
| holstein | but i get the idea | 03:22 |
| holstein | and the contrast is nice | 03:23 |
| ScottL | you're not the first to mention that font :) | 03:24 |
| ScottL | not liking it, that is | 03:24 |
| holstein | eh | 03:24 |
| holstein | i get it | 03:24 |
| holstein | do your thing i say | 03:24 |
| holstein | its clean and slick | 03:24 |
| holstein | the whole unit | 03:25 |
| holstein | i think if it was 20% less frilly | 03:25 |
| holstein | that font | 03:25 |
| persia | I think the frilliness is important. I don't much like the font, but I like that it's frilly and italic. | 03:26 |
| holstein | yeah | 03:26 |
| holstein | sets it apart | 03:26 |
| ScottL | i looked through *ALL* the fonts in inkscape and that was the best font i found ;) | 03:26 |
| persia | And I think the contrast is important in terms of associating self-identification to Ubuntu Studio for target users, who often accept identities in contrast to that considered "regular" or "normal" | 03:27 |
| persia | ScottL, Well then. It's the right font :) | 03:27 |
| persia | (unless someone wants to hand-draw the phrase) | 03:27 |
| ScottL | i shall not live or die by this website and i am very open to suggestions | 03:27 |
| ScottL | or change the phrase | 03:27 |
| ScottL | or replace it with an image | 03:28 |
| ScottL | a cool drawing done by a user could be awesome right there | 03:28 |
| ScottL | i admit that i was thinking of troy a lot when i had been working on it, thinking, "what would troy say?" LOL | 03:29 |
| ScottL | that's why i still want to really identify the audience more and their needs | 03:29 |
| ScottL | i really like the logo with the word "experience" above and to the left, kinda hanging there | 03:30 |
| holstein | yeah | 03:30 |
| holstein | i gotta say | 03:30 |
| holstein | i wasnt diggin the logo til this | 03:30 |
| * persia misses blue but likes the logo overall | 03:31 | |
| ScottL | persia, do you mean the blue cof ? | 03:42 |
| ScottL | like cory's logo https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Artwork/LogoRedesignV3 | 03:42 |
| ScottL | . | 03:43 |
| ScottL | it's funny (and rewarding) how things like this come together | 03:43 |
| ScottL | i had come up with a few things http://scottalavender.deviantart.com/gallery/ | 03:43 |
| ScottL | and cory like how i had put the "t" and "d" together | 03:44 |
| persia | Just blue in general. The logo used to be blue. But don't change it because of my nostalgia. | 03:44 |
| ScottL | err, it was the "n" and "d" | 03:44 |
| ScottL | but he also like how the "experience" logo had "ubuntu" and "studio" offset | 03:44 |
| persia | 'n' could flow to either 't' or 'd', really. | 03:44 |
| ScottL | and combined the two :) | 03:44 |
| ScottL | mine was centered but i think the staggered look provides better anchors for other aspects | 03:45 |
| ScottL | natty is stacking to be a big release :) | 03:49 |
| astraljava | I'm with persia re: the blue color, it's somehow stuck in my mind as the color of US. :) | 07:23 |
| astraljava | Otherwise, the mock-up for website is damn cool! | 07:23 |
| abogani | URL? | 07:24 |
| astraljava | I'm not a huge fan of putting the 'n' together with neither 't' nor 'd'. | 07:24 |
| astraljava | abogani: http://www.fossmusicproject.org/public/images/website-mockup-2.png | 07:24 |
| abogani | woooo impressive | 07:28 |
| ScottL | thank you astraljava and abogani, it's not necessarily THE new website, it's just something i was inspired to make | 12:27 |
| ScottL | but i'm glad you like it | 12:27 |
| ScottL | i've been overwhelmingly surprised by the positive responses | 12:28 |
| abogani | It's really cool | 12:28 |
| ScottL | i am not intuitively good at art and design in the way that that i believe troy or cory are | 12:28 |
| ScottL | abogani, thank you :) | 12:29 |
| ScottL | abogani, i believe you were discussing ralf earlier, currently he seems a most unreasonable person due to his seemingly obsession with the -rt kernel :/ | 12:34 |
| abogani | When I read hist first email I thought that his was a troll. | 12:38 |
| abogani | he* | 12:43 |
| ScottL | heh, that is understandable | 12:56 |
| scott-work | there is a new musescore update that fixes many bugs available | 14:39 |
| scott-work | ScottK has asked if we would like it, presumably for maverick | 14:40 |
| scott-work | if anyone would like to test it it is available at http://launchpadlibrarian.net/56895273/musescore_0.9.6.2%2Bdfsg-1ubuntu1_0.9.6.3%2Bdfsg-0ubuntu1.diff.gz | 14:40 |
| scott-work | in fact it would be appreciate if someone did | 14:41 |
| scott-work | i expect to see the doctor today for muscle problems in my back today and fully expect to be on muscle relaxers later and not fully functional ;) | 14:41 |
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