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bulldog98ScottK: I don‘t get any errors or output by dh_install --sourcedir=debian/tmp --list-missing00:00
JontheEchidnaIs it just me or has the Qt tarball gotten larger?00:22
dasKreechAdding features = Adding code 00:22
lex79yes about 60 MB more large than 4.600:24
lex79uhm no, just 40 MB :)00:26
JontheEchidnaanybody know what's with the unused kubuntu_19_gtkstyle_inactive_background.diff in qt4-x11?00:29
JontheEchidnalooks like it was just not included in the series file last upload00:30
dasKreechgo-ooo is dead?00:31
lex79JontheEchidna: also kubuntu_20 is not in the series file00:32
JontheEchidnafixing. I'm going to do an upload tonight00:32
JontheEchidnathough now I have to rebuild the entire source package, which takes forever :(00:32
CIA-116[ubuntu] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20101001233342-1dvg2r8a0b5w8e9j * debian/ (changelog patches/series) (log message trimmed)00:33
CIA-116Add kubuntu_21_fix_phantom_cursor.diff to fix a problem visible in several KDE00:33
CIA-116applications (such as Konversation, KPackageKit, and KOrg, to name a few) where00:33
lex79I can build for you if it's necessary, it takes ~ 1 hour00:34
lex79but if you have to test something is better if you do since you know where to see00:35
JontheEchidnaI mean debuild -S -sd, takes about 3 minutes, lol00:35
lex79uhm :)00:36
lex79I don't understand how to reproduce the bug00:41
JontheEchidnathe bug?00:42
lex79kubuntu_21_fix_phantom_cursor.diff 00:42
lex79where's the problem with the cursor?00:42
JontheEchidnait's easiest to trigger in konversation00:42
JontheEchidnayou try to paste a multiline paste, and when the dialog comes up it messed up the cursor00:43
JontheEchidnaand the cursor will be invisible when you mouse over the main window00:43
lex79JontheEchidna: ok got it, did you start to build Qt? shall I do?00:44
JontheEchidnaI just uploaded it00:44
lex79lol00:44
lex79I thought you had to run pbuilder and test the fix :)00:45
JontheEchidnaalready did00:45
lex79brilliant00:45
JontheEchidnabut I didn't notice the other patches, so I had to do debuild -S -sd again00:45
lex79ah ok00:45
lex79JontheEchidna: there was also this bug 65202900:48
ubottuLaunchpad bug 652029 in qt4-x11 (Ubuntu) "package libqt4-help 4:4.6.3-0ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite '/usr/share/qt4/translations/qt_help_cs.qm', which is also in package libqtcore4 4:4.6.3-0ubuntu1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/65202900:48
SentynelHi guys, problems with Pulse in 10.10RC, apparently. All my X-Fi's interfaces, plus a custom upmixing ALSA device I defined, have vanished from my phonon config and been replaced with a single X-Fi Analog Stereo output.01:02
valoriehmmm, and crimsun and coling aren't here01:04
valoriepity01:04
valorieyou might have to file a bug in launchpad01:04
valorie:(01:04
SentynelHm, okay.01:05
valoriealthough there is a command for that01:05
valorie!bug01:05
ubottuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs - Bugs in/wishes for the IRC bots (not Ubuntu) can be filed at http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots01:05
valoriewhich is sorta cool01:05
SentynelFile under phonon or pulseaudio?01:07
valoriePA I think01:07
SentynelOkay.01:07
valoriehttp://pulseaudio.org/wiki/KDE01:08
valorieactually, a possible fix is there too01:09
* valorie keeps the page for later possible use01:09
SentynelNo dice on the fix, filling out the bug report.01:17
CIA-116[muon] jmthomas * 1181754 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/libmuon/PackageModel/ (PackageWidget.cpp PackageWidget.h) (log message trimmed)01:39
CIA-116Optimize sorting to save ~0.25s on startup. The nitty gritty: -Sort the01:39
CIA-116PackageList before adding it. This way we can use the more efficient01:39
CIA-116[libqapt] jmthomas * 1181764 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/src/cache.cpp (log message trimmed)02:42
CIA-116Evil but Necessary, libapt-pkg not thread safe, afaict. This alleviates the02:42
CIA-116~0.5s hang on startup for consumer applications. It should be fairly safe,02:42
* JontheEchidna feels dirty02:42
JontheEchidnaReally should be safe, though02:43
CIA-116[muon] jmthomas * 1181767 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/libmuon/PackageModel/PackageWidget.cpp Set the busy cursor on startup until the packages are added to the PackageModel03:13
CIA-116[muon] jmthomas * 1181775 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/muon/ (MainWindow.cpp MainWindow.h) Probably would be best to disable the "launch Software Properties" action whilst in the middle of doing things...03:46
ScottKlex79: On the bug for release notes, use "Also affects project" and add a task for the ubuntu-release-notes project.04:21
lex79ScottK: ok thanks04:21
CIA-116[muon] jmthomas * 1181778 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/kded/ (4 files in 2 dirs) (log message trimmed)04:23
CIA-116Add KStatusNotifierItem support. Currently it can do either KNotify-only w/04:23
CIA-116actions/persistance, KSNI-only, or a KSNI/KNotify combo where the KNotify is not04:23
lex79ScottK: it says "I have the URL for the upstream bug:"04:24
lex79or04:24
lex79"I have already emailed an upstream bug contact"04:24
ScottKlex79: There's an option for pick another project above that.04:24
CIA-116[muon] jmthomas * 1181779 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/muon/MainWindow.cpp Don't enable the actions until the backend is ready. (We already check for this, but they were all enabled at start up until now)04:28
heinzesRiddell: hi, I'm trying to figure out why plasma-netbook alone in debian testing is not starting, despite of having your patch (link in debian bug#584905). did you change more? where else should I look?04:29
CIA-116[muon] jmthomas * 1181780 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/updater/UpdaterWindow.cpp Set actions to false until the backend is ready here, too.04:30
lex79ScottK: http://imagebin.ca/view/Enf_QlG.html04:31
lex79I'm unable :(04:31
ScottKlex79: See where it says Project:04:31
ScottKLinux (choose another project)04:31
ScottKClick on "choose another project"04:32
lex79well but it will replaces linux04:32
ScottKAnd people wonder why I hate the LP U/I.04:32
lex79I want linux and ubuntu-release-note04:32
ScottKlex79: No, it will add a task for the other project.04:32
lex79not just linux04:32
ScottKThat's what you'll get.04:32
lex79ah try04:32
lex79done, thanks04:33
lex79that UI is ugly04:34
ScottKit is.04:46
ScottKqt4-x11 accepted, BTW.04:46
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valoriewoah, no apachelogger?05:23
valorieI've gotten sponsorship to UDS05:23
valorieand want to make plans for fun!05:24
valoriealso upgrading to 10.1005:24
valoriewhich is going slowly....05:24
debfxmarkey: oh amarok has its own packager mailing list?09:25
bulldog98is one of the kubuntu-members around (I’m finished with packaging kdelibs)09:27
markeydebfx: yes09:34
markeyit's very handy09:34
markeythis way we can communicate efficiently09:34
debfxmarkey: how can I subscribe to it?09:35
bulldog98Riddell: ping09:41
markeydebfx: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/amarok-packagers09:41
debfxmarkey: thanks09:57
markey:)09:58
Riddellbulldog98: pong11:06
bulldog98Riddell: should I send you the diff of debian folder for kdelibs, because I don‘t have commit right?11:07
Riddellbulldog98: send a diff or bzr push lp:~bulldog98/kdelibs/4.5.2  then request a merge11:13
Riddellbulldog98: then build the source package making sure  ~ppa1 is in the version number and dput ppa:kubuntu-ninjas11:14
Riddellah, you already did that, lovely11:14
bulldog98Riddell: it‘s already in PPA11:14
Riddellbulldog98: which did you go for?11:47
bulldog98Riddell: I’ll upload it11:49
bulldog98Riddell: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~bulldog98/kdelibs/4.5.2/+merge/3734312:05
Riddellbulldog98: +usr/bin/preparetips  I'm pretty sure there's some reason why we don't want that12:08
Riddellyes we have it in pkg-kde-tools instead12:09
Riddellbulldog98: what happened to debian/libsolid4.symbols ?12:09
Riddelland debian/libthreadweaver4.symbols ?12:09
bulldog98Riddell: they gave errors12:09
Riddellbest to fix the errors then rather than just ignore then :)12:10
Riddelldo you have the buildlogs with the errors?12:10
bulldog98Riddell: was something about not matching symbols12:11
bulldog98Riddell: for usr/bin/preparetips should I do an lintian-overrides?12:12
Riddellbulldog98: put it in debian/not-installed12:14
bulldog98k12:14
Riddelloh it's already there12:14
bulldog98Riddell: maybe removing the ./ would do the trick12:15
Riddellworth a shot12:16
bulldog98Riddell: found http://pastebin.kubuntu-de.org/20112:27
bulldog98I found 5-7 missing symbols12:49
Riddellbulldog98: that pastebin isn't a missing symbol as I read it12:53
Riddellcan you put the full build log somewhere?12:53
bulldog98Riddell: I know that’s an other problem12:53
bulldog98Riddell: I’ll paste you, but I must change the LANG to C12:53
CIA-116[muon] jmthomas * 1181835 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/ (ChangeLog kded/UpdateEvent/UpdateEvent.cpp) Fix a crash in muon-notifier13:20
CIA-116[muon] jmthomas * 1181841 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/kded/ (4 files in 3 dirs) Port the notifier Event class from taking a QPixmap to a KIcon. It didn't fix the invisible tray icon bug as I had hoped, but we now get icons in the tray icon context menu13:40
ScottKRiddell: From the log, this seems perhaps related to your changes: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/1:0.142.17/+build/1984175/+files/buildlog_ubuntu-maverick-i386.update-manager_1%3A0.142.17_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz14:01
bulldog98Riddell: http://pastebin.kubuntu-de.org/202 log14:29
Riddellbulldog98: hmm, my build of kde4libs didn't have any symbols issues16:57
RiddellI'll upload it to the PPA to see if it works there16:58
shadeslayerRiddell: urgent, PM17:31
seaLneafiestas: on maverick rc live when i copy a file from my phone i get an error but the file is copied: http://selkie.fankled.net/~kd/tmp/obexcopy.png17:55
ScottKNice informative error message.17:57
seaLneyes :)17:57
seaLneafiestas: ah actually the files are 0 size so copying did fail18:06
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CIA-116[muon] jmthomas * 1181903 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/kded/ (4 files in 3 dirs) Pass the icon around as a QString rather than a KIcon, and use set by name functions for the KSNI. Fixes the invisible tray icon bug18:14
debfxJontheEchidna: how can I test a locally built version of libqapt?18:23
CIA-116[kubuntu-notification-helper] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20101002172310-ckt708dt0bktkadu * src/daemon/ (6 files in 5 dirs) Port invisible tray icon fix over from muon-notifier. It'd be neat to find a way to share this code, though.18:23
debfxwithout overwriting the system qaptworker18:23
JontheEchidnahmm18:23
JontheEchidnadifferent install prefix maybe?18:24
JontheEchidnathough the dbus .service file may not like that18:24
JontheEchidnayeah, it has "Exec=/usr/bin/qaptworker" hardcoded18:25
debfxcould I start qaptworker manually?18:27
JontheEchidnayou'd have to start it as root, and then use it within 10 seconds of running it18:27
JontheEchidnause it == start an operation18:28
debfxwell I could just remove the timer :)18:29
JontheEchidna;-)18:29
valorieloving the new ubuntu font in 10.1018:41
valoriehigh fives all around -- my only issue now is a non-working volume control in Amarok *and* Kmix18:41
crimsunI just chatted briefly with Colin about PA and KDE; we can't push anything for the 10.10 release, but I'll hopefully have something done shortly for maverick-proposed.18:42
JontheEchidnaColin Gunthire?18:42
crimsunJontheEchidna: yes.18:42
JontheEchidnak18:43
JontheEchidnaI know several Colin's ;)18:43
RiddellI'm sitting next to him18:44
Riddellcrimsun: I'm looking at patches 192, 193 and 194 http://svn.mandriva.com/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/packages/cooker/pulseaudio/current/SOURCES/18:44
Riddellhttp://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.audio.pulseaudio.scm/272518:44
shadeslayervalorie: you didnt find them squashed? :(18:46
valorieheh18:47
valorieI had to quit amarok -- even mute doesn't work18:47
valoriebut I have a meeting this am and no time for problem solving right now18:48
debfxRiddell: do these patches solve the problem that HDMI can be the default sink?18:49
lex79with 0194 patch I think so18:50
debfxJontheEchidna: preliminary -fvisibility=hidden patch: http://people.ubuntu.com/~debfx/qapt/qapt_visbility_hidden.diff18:50
Riddelldebfx: yes that's 019418:51
debfxJontheEchidna: I copied that cmake code from kde, not sure if all those checks are really necessary18:51
JontheEchidnaneaty-o18:52
JontheEchidnadebfx: does this just fix compilation with fvisibility=hidden, or does it also make it compile with fvisibility=hidden too?18:53
debfxRiddell: would be good to get them in, sound stopped working when I switched from alsa to pulse because hdmi was default and the proper sink was muted18:53
debfxJontheEchidna: it compiles qapt with -fvisibility=hidden18:54
JontheEchidnanice18:54
debfxnext task would be to get rid of libapt-pkg includes in public headers18:56
Riddelldo we want to add the speaker profiles tab to the phonon kcm with this patch?  http://svn.mandriva.com/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/packages/cooker/kdebase4-runtime/current/SOURCES/kdebase-runtime-4.5-speakersetup.patch?revision=571299&view=markup18:57
CIA-116[libqapt] jmthomas * 1181912 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/ (6 files in 3 dirs) fvisibility=hidden support by Felix Geyer. Prevents libqapt from exposing symbols from other libraries it uses18:58
Riddellanyone care about 5.1 speaker setup?18:58
lex79my 5.1 works out of the box18:59
shadeslayerlex79: i still have that pbuilder issue :(19:01
lex79becuase you don't save when you exit from the chroot19:02
shadeslayeri did 19:02
lex79strange then19:02
Riddelllex79: do you have all 5.1 speakers working or just 2?19:03
lex79Riddell: all 6 speakers work here19:03
Riddelllex79: please pastebin  pacmd list19:03
lex79where's?19:03
Riddellon a pastebin19:04
lex79where's pacmd?19:04
Riddellit's a command19:04
lex79ah19:04
Riddellpulseaudio-utils19:04
CIA-116[muon] jmthomas * 1181913 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/muon/MainWindow.cpp Debug cleanup19:05
shadeslayerlex79: zomg .. its working now :S19:05
shadeslayeri didnt do a thing19:05
lex79Riddell: http://pastebin.com/sbvxEBN619:06
JontheEchidnaI need to release this at some point... http://imgur.com/UvaVZ19:07
seaLnelex79: you aren't using 5.1 your card must be up mixing, look at the active profile 19:09
lex79ah, well but all 6 speakers work19:10
Riddell19:10 <coling> pacmd set-card-profile 0 output:analog-surround-51+input:analog-stereo19:11
Riddell19:10 <coling> That would switch to a *real* 5.1 sink. It will also give him all six channels in kmix if he right clicks on the device and chooses "Split Channels"19:11
Riddelllex79: ^^19:11
lex79oh LoL19:12
lex79Riddell: now it works http://imagebin.ca/view/q577kzk.html19:13
lex79uhm the sound is different now LoL19:13
shadeslayerlol19:15
debfxJontheEchidna: what do you think about splitting the Package class into an abstract public and an internal one?19:18
debfxso the constructor and packageIterator() aren't exposed in the public class19:19
JontheEchidnais there a way to do this without breaking ABI?19:20
JontheEchidna(I think that the packageIterator() could be useful in the public class, if somebody wanted to do something the Package doesn't currently)19:21
debfxdo you want to keep qapt 1.1 ABI compatible with 1.0?19:22
JontheEchidnayes, unless absolutely necessary19:23
debfxwell that change would even break the api ^^19:24
shadeslayerlex79: i have this now : http://paste.ubuntu.com/504639/19:25
JontheEchidnasomething to keep in mind for QApt2, then.19:25
shadeslayerkdelibs giving me a really really good headache19:26
Riddelllex79: so do you conclude we need a GUI to configure that?19:26
Riddelland is it worth adding a week before release19:26
lex79Riddell: I think we can survive without it and do the right thing in natty19:27
lex79shadeslayer: I dunno, see the waning about automake is missing and bla bla bla19:28
lex79Riddell: where's the GUI btw?19:33
debfxJontheEchidna: the visibility patch kind of breaks the ABI, but that only affects qapt-batch19:34
debfxRiddell: could you upload amarok once more, I've added a new patch19:37
JontheEchidnadebfx: not too concerned about that since qapt-batch is built simultaneously19:37
seaLneRiddell: kamrmic->lucid->maverick grub error http://selkie.fankled.net/~kd/tmp/upgradegrub.png19:52
lex79do you have a custom boot menu?19:54
seaLneno19:54
lex79ignore it, it's not an error19:55
seaLnebtw i'm currently in the same room as Riddell 19:55
seaLneso we were talking about it19:56
lex79good for you, but I wanted just say I saw that message every time I did dist-upgrade ;)19:58
lex79and everything went ok19:59
txwikingerRiddell: My presentation about how to hack Qt with python was pretty successful20:01
bulldog98txwikinger: log or something?20:05
txwikingerI will post something on my blog later20:06
txwikingerI think someone did also a voicerecording of it20:06
bulldog98cool20:07
lex79ScottK: they say to me with lucid->maverick upgrade, in maverick they have kbluetooth and bluedevil both installed and they have to remove kbluetooth manually20:15
lex79since it causes crash20:16
ScottKRiddell: ^^^ Need to ask mvo to remove kbluetooth.  I know he's got at least one more upload to do.20:16
ScottKActually ...20:16
lex79ScottK: kbluetooth is not in maverick20:16
ScottKlex79: Did they upgrade using update-manager?20:16
lex79yes they did20:16
ScottKIf they did, it should get removed as part of the upgrade process.20:16
lex79yes, weird thing20:17
ScottKI'd file a bug on update-manager with details and try to talk to mvo about it.20:17
lex79thanks20:17
lex79I think kbluetooth should go in PostUpgradeRemove here: http://pastebin.com/9i09VdM320:44
lex79in DistUpgrade/DistUpgrade.cfg20:44
ScottKlex79: Since it's been removed from the archive, it should be automatically dealt with I think.  It should not HAVE to go there, but that may be the best way to deal with it now.20:45
lex79I'm looking at demoted.cfg file but I think it's not the right place :)20:49
shadeslayerwont a replaces/breaks to our existing package ensure that?20:53
lex79nope20:53
shadeslayeror am i missing something ?20:53
shadeslayerwhy?20:53
lex79since kbluetooth is not anymore in the seed should go out automatically with update-manager21:00
shadeslayerhmm21:08
shadeslayerScottK: i give up, i cant do this merge21:10
ScottKOK.21:10
ScottKdebfx should do it then as a graduation excercise for his MOTU application ....21:11
ScottK(kdelibs)21:11
shadeslayerkubuntu_97 patch refuses to work, quilt can patch stuff but debuild fails to do it...21:11
shadeslayerdebfx: best of luck for MOTU and kdelibs, your gonna need it21:11
debfxScottK: I'm busy preparing for a math exam on monday21:18
ScottKdebfx: OK.21:18
RiddellScottK: kbluetooth isn't in the archive, it'll prompt to have it removed21:40
ScottKRiddell: Right, but apparently it didn't according to lex79's reports.21:41
Riddelljust looked at seaLne's computer which did a karmic->lucid->marverick upgrade and there's no kbluetooth21:42
ScottKCool21:42
* ScottK looks at lex79.21:42
lex79strange21:42
RiddellI'd guess that when it asked "do you want to remove old packages" you clicked no21:43
lex79he clicked yes21:43
Riddellthen report a bug with /var/log/dist-upgrade/* attached21:43
lex79he is an advanced user btw21:43
lex79ok21:45
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* dantti wishes to use qt in aptcc, glib docs sucks23:44

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