[00:00] <bulldog98> ScottK: I don‘t get any errors or output by dh_install --sourcedir=debian/tmp --list-missing
[00:22] <JontheEchidna> Is it just me or has the Qt tarball gotten larger?
[00:22] <dasKreech> Adding features = Adding code 
[00:24] <lex79> yes about 60 MB more large than 4.6
[00:26] <lex79> uhm no, just 40 MB :)
[00:29] <JontheEchidna> anybody know what's with the unused kubuntu_19_gtkstyle_inactive_background.diff in qt4-x11?
[00:30] <JontheEchidna> looks like it was just not included in the series file last upload
[00:31] <dasKreech> go-ooo is dead?
[00:32] <lex79> JontheEchidna: also kubuntu_20 is not in the series file
[00:32] <JontheEchidna> fixing. I'm going to do an upload tonight
[00:32] <JontheEchidna> though now I have to rebuild the entire source package, which takes forever :(
[00:33] <CIA-116> [ubuntu] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20101001233342-1dvg2r8a0b5w8e9j * debian/ (changelog patches/series) (log message trimmed)
[00:33] <CIA-116> Add kubuntu_21_fix_phantom_cursor.diff to fix a problem visible in several KDE
[00:33] <CIA-116> applications (such as Konversation, KPackageKit, and KOrg, to name a few) where
[00:34] <lex79> I can build for you if it's necessary, it takes ~ 1 hour
[00:35] <lex79> but if you have to test something is better if you do since you know where to see
[00:35] <JontheEchidna> I mean debuild -S -sd, takes about 3 minutes, lol
[00:36] <lex79> uhm :)
[00:41] <lex79> I don't understand how to reproduce the bug
[00:42] <JontheEchidna> the bug?
[00:42] <lex79> kubuntu_21_fix_phantom_cursor.diff 
[00:42] <lex79> where's the problem with the cursor?
[00:42] <JontheEchidna> it's easiest to trigger in konversation
[00:43] <JontheEchidna> you try to paste a multiline paste, and when the dialog comes up it messed up the cursor
[00:43] <JontheEchidna> and the cursor will be invisible when you mouse over the main window
[00:44] <lex79> JontheEchidna: ok got it, did you start to build Qt? shall I do?
[00:44] <JontheEchidna> I just uploaded it
[00:44] <lex79> lol
[00:45] <lex79> I thought you had to run pbuilder and test the fix :)
[00:45] <JontheEchidna> already did
[00:45] <lex79> brilliant
[00:45] <JontheEchidna> but I didn't notice the other patches, so I had to do debuild -S -sd again
[00:45] <lex79> ah ok
[00:48] <lex79> JontheEchidna: there was also this bug 652029
[01:02] <Sentynel> Hi guys, problems with Pulse in 10.10RC, apparently. All my X-Fi's interfaces, plus a custom upmixing ALSA device I defined, have vanished from my phonon config and been replaced with a single X-Fi Analog Stereo output.
[01:04] <valorie> hmmm, and crimsun and coling aren't here
[01:04] <valorie> pity
[01:04] <valorie> you might have to file a bug in launchpad
[01:04] <valorie> :(
[01:05] <Sentynel> Hm, okay.
[01:05] <valorie> although there is a command for that
[01:05] <valorie> !bug
[01:05] <valorie> which is sorta cool
[01:07] <Sentynel> File under phonon or pulseaudio?
[01:07] <valorie> PA I think
[01:07] <Sentynel> Okay.
[01:08] <valorie> http://pulseaudio.org/wiki/KDE
[01:09] <valorie> actually, a possible fix is there too
[01:09]  * valorie keeps the page for later possible use
[01:17] <Sentynel> No dice on the fix, filling out the bug report.
[01:39] <CIA-116> [muon] jmthomas * 1181754 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/libmuon/PackageModel/ (PackageWidget.cpp PackageWidget.h) (log message trimmed)
[01:39] <CIA-116> Optimize sorting to save ~0.25s on startup. The nitty gritty: -Sort the
[01:39] <CIA-116> PackageList before adding it. This way we can use the more efficient
[02:42] <CIA-116> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1181764 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/src/cache.cpp (log message trimmed)
[02:42] <CIA-116> Evil but Necessary, libapt-pkg not thread safe, afaict. This alleviates the
[02:42] <CIA-116> ~0.5s hang on startup for consumer applications. It should be fairly safe,
[02:42]  * JontheEchidna feels dirty
[02:43] <JontheEchidna> Really should be safe, though
[03:13] <CIA-116> [muon] jmthomas * 1181767 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/libmuon/PackageModel/PackageWidget.cpp Set the busy cursor on startup until the packages are added to the PackageModel
[03:46] <CIA-116> [muon] jmthomas * 1181775 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/muon/ (MainWindow.cpp MainWindow.h) Probably would be best to disable the "launch Software Properties" action whilst in the middle of doing things...
[04:21] <ScottK> lex79: On the bug for release notes, use "Also affects project" and add a task for the ubuntu-release-notes project.
[04:21] <lex79> ScottK: ok thanks
[04:23] <CIA-116> [muon] jmthomas * 1181778 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/kded/ (4 files in 2 dirs) (log message trimmed)
[04:23] <CIA-116> Add KStatusNotifierItem support. Currently it can do either KNotify-only w/
[04:23] <CIA-116> actions/persistance, KSNI-only, or a KSNI/KNotify combo where the KNotify is not
[04:24] <lex79> ScottK: it says "I have the URL for the upstream bug:"
[04:24] <lex79> or
[04:24] <lex79> "I have already emailed an upstream bug contact"
[04:24] <ScottK> lex79: There's an option for pick another project above that.
[04:28] <CIA-116> [muon] jmthomas * 1181779 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/muon/MainWindow.cpp Don't enable the actions until the backend is ready. (We already check for this, but they were all enabled at start up until now)
[04:29] <heinzes> Riddell: hi, I'm trying to figure out why plasma-netbook alone in debian testing is not starting, despite of having your patch (link in debian bug#584905). did you change more? where else should I look?
[04:30] <CIA-116> [muon] jmthomas * 1181780 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/updater/UpdaterWindow.cpp Set actions to false until the backend is ready here, too.
[04:31] <lex79> ScottK: http://imagebin.ca/view/Enf_QlG.html
[04:31] <lex79> I'm unable :(
[04:31] <ScottK> lex79: See where it says Project:
[04:31] <ScottK> Linux (choose another project)
[04:32] <ScottK> Click on "choose another project"
[04:32] <lex79> well but it will replaces linux
[04:32] <ScottK> And people wonder why I hate the LP U/I.
[04:32] <lex79> I want linux and ubuntu-release-note
[04:32] <ScottK> lex79: No, it will add a task for the other project.
[04:32] <lex79> not just linux
[04:32] <ScottK> That's what you'll get.
[04:32] <lex79> ah try
[04:33] <lex79> done, thanks
[04:34] <lex79> that UI is ugly
[04:46] <ScottK> it is.
[04:46] <ScottK> qt4-x11 accepted, BTW.
[05:23] <valorie> woah, no apachelogger?
[05:23] <valorie> I've gotten sponsorship to UDS
[05:24] <valorie> and want to make plans for fun!
[05:24] <valorie> also upgrading to 10.10
[05:24] <valorie> which is going slowly....
[09:25] <debfx> markey: oh amarok has its own packager mailing list?
[09:27] <bulldog98> is one of the kubuntu-members around (I’m finished with packaging kdelibs)
[09:34] <markey> debfx: yes
[09:34] <markey> it's very handy
[09:34] <markey> this way we can communicate efficiently
[09:35] <debfx> markey: how can I subscribe to it?
[09:41] <bulldog98> Riddell: ping
[09:41] <markey> debfx: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/amarok-packagers
[09:57] <debfx> markey: thanks
[09:58] <markey> :)
[11:06] <Riddell> bulldog98: pong
[11:07] <bulldog98> Riddell: should I send you the diff of debian folder for kdelibs, because I don‘t have commit right?
[11:13] <Riddell> bulldog98: send a diff or bzr push lp:~bulldog98/kdelibs/4.5.2  then request a merge
[11:14] <Riddell> bulldog98: then build the source package making sure  ~ppa1 is in the version number and dput ppa:kubuntu-ninjas
[11:14] <Riddell> ah, you already did that, lovely
[11:14] <bulldog98> Riddell: it‘s already in PPA
[11:47] <Riddell> bulldog98: which did you go for?
[11:49] <bulldog98> Riddell: I’ll upload it
[12:05] <bulldog98> Riddell: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~bulldog98/kdelibs/4.5.2/+merge/37343
[12:08] <Riddell> bulldog98: +usr/bin/preparetips  I'm pretty sure there's some reason why we don't want that
[12:09] <Riddell> yes we have it in pkg-kde-tools instead
[12:09] <Riddell> bulldog98: what happened to debian/libsolid4.symbols ?
[12:09] <Riddell> and debian/libthreadweaver4.symbols ?
[12:09] <bulldog98> Riddell: they gave errors
[12:10] <Riddell> best to fix the errors then rather than just ignore then :)
[12:10] <Riddell> do you have the buildlogs with the errors?
[12:11] <bulldog98> Riddell: was something about not matching symbols
[12:12] <bulldog98> Riddell: for usr/bin/preparetips should I do an lintian-overrides?
[12:14] <Riddell> bulldog98: put it in debian/not-installed
[12:14] <bulldog98> k
[12:14] <Riddell> oh it's already there
[12:15] <bulldog98> Riddell: maybe removing the ./ would do the trick
[12:16] <Riddell> worth a shot
[12:27] <bulldog98> Riddell: found http://pastebin.kubuntu-de.org/201
[12:49] <bulldog98> I found 5-7 missing symbols
[12:53] <Riddell> bulldog98: that pastebin isn't a missing symbol as I read it
[12:53] <Riddell> can you put the full build log somewhere?
[12:53] <bulldog98> Riddell: I know that’s an other problem
[12:53] <bulldog98> Riddell: I’ll paste you, but I must change the LANG to C
[13:20] <CIA-116> [muon] jmthomas * 1181835 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/ (ChangeLog kded/UpdateEvent/UpdateEvent.cpp) Fix a crash in muon-notifier
[13:40] <CIA-116> [muon] jmthomas * 1181841 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/kded/ (4 files in 3 dirs) Port the notifier Event class from taking a QPixmap to a KIcon. It didn't fix the invisible tray icon bug as I had hoped, but we now get icons in the tray icon context menu
[14:01] <ScottK> Riddell: From the log, this seems perhaps related to your changes: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/1:0.142.17/+build/1984175/+files/buildlog_ubuntu-maverick-i386.update-manager_1%3A0.142.17_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[14:29] <bulldog98> Riddell: http://pastebin.kubuntu-de.org/202 log
[16:57] <Riddell> bulldog98: hmm, my build of kde4libs didn't have any symbols issues
[16:58] <Riddell> I'll upload it to the PPA to see if it works there
[17:31] <shadeslayer> Riddell: urgent, PM
[17:55] <seaLne> afiestas: on maverick rc live when i copy a file from my phone i get an error but the file is copied: http://selkie.fankled.net/~kd/tmp/obexcopy.png
[17:57] <ScottK> Nice informative error message.
[17:57] <seaLne> yes :)
[18:06] <seaLne> afiestas: ah actually the files are 0 size so copying did fail
[18:14] <CIA-116> [muon] jmthomas * 1181903 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/kded/ (4 files in 3 dirs) Pass the icon around as a QString rather than a KIcon, and use set by name functions for the KSNI. Fixes the invisible tray icon bug
[18:23] <debfx> JontheEchidna: how can I test a locally built version of libqapt?
[18:23] <CIA-116> [kubuntu-notification-helper] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20101002172310-ckt708dt0bktkadu * src/daemon/ (6 files in 5 dirs) Port invisible tray icon fix over from muon-notifier. It'd be neat to find a way to share this code, though.
[18:23] <debfx> without overwriting the system qaptworker
[18:23] <JontheEchidna> hmm
[18:24] <JontheEchidna> different install prefix maybe?
[18:24] <JontheEchidna> though the dbus .service file may not like that
[18:25] <JontheEchidna> yeah, it has "Exec=/usr/bin/qaptworker" hardcoded
[18:27] <debfx> could I start qaptworker manually?
[18:27] <JontheEchidna> you'd have to start it as root, and then use it within 10 seconds of running it
[18:28] <JontheEchidna> use it == start an operation
[18:29] <debfx> well I could just remove the timer :)
[18:29] <JontheEchidna> ;-)
[18:41] <valorie> loving the new ubuntu font in 10.10
[18:41] <valorie> high fives all around -- my only issue now is a non-working volume control in Amarok *and* Kmix
[18:42] <crimsun> I just chatted briefly with Colin about PA and KDE; we can't push anything for the 10.10 release, but I'll hopefully have something done shortly for maverick-proposed.
[18:42] <JontheEchidna> Colin Gunthire?
[18:42] <crimsun> JontheEchidna: yes.
[18:43] <JontheEchidna> k
[18:43] <JontheEchidna> I know several Colin's ;)
[18:44] <Riddell> I'm sitting next to him
[18:44] <Riddell> crimsun: I'm looking at patches 192, 193 and 194 http://svn.mandriva.com/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/packages/cooker/pulseaudio/current/SOURCES/
[18:44] <Riddell> http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.audio.pulseaudio.scm/2725
[18:46] <shadeslayer> valorie: you didnt find them squashed? :(
[18:47] <valorie> heh
[18:47] <valorie> I had to quit amarok -- even mute doesn't work
[18:48] <valorie> but I have a meeting this am and no time for problem solving right now
[18:49] <debfx> Riddell: do these patches solve the problem that HDMI can be the default sink?
[18:50] <lex79> with 0194 patch I think so
[18:50] <debfx> JontheEchidna: preliminary -fvisibility=hidden patch: http://people.ubuntu.com/~debfx/qapt/qapt_visbility_hidden.diff
[18:51] <Riddell> debfx: yes that's 0194
[18:51] <debfx> JontheEchidna: I copied that cmake code from kde, not sure if all those checks are really necessary
[18:52] <JontheEchidna> neaty-o
[18:53] <JontheEchidna> debfx: does this just fix compilation with fvisibility=hidden, or does it also make it compile with fvisibility=hidden too?
[18:53] <debfx> Riddell: would be good to get them in, sound stopped working when I switched from alsa to pulse because hdmi was default and the proper sink was muted
[18:54] <debfx> JontheEchidna: it compiles qapt with -fvisibility=hidden
[18:54] <JontheEchidna> nice
[18:56] <debfx> next task would be to get rid of libapt-pkg includes in public headers
[18:57] <Riddell> do we want to add the speaker profiles tab to the phonon kcm with this patch?  http://svn.mandriva.com/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/packages/cooker/kdebase4-runtime/current/SOURCES/kdebase-runtime-4.5-speakersetup.patch?revision=571299&view=markup
[18:58] <CIA-116> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1181912 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/ (6 files in 3 dirs) fvisibility=hidden support by Felix Geyer. Prevents libqapt from exposing symbols from other libraries it uses
[18:58] <Riddell> anyone care about 5.1 speaker setup?
[18:59] <lex79> my 5.1 works out of the box
[19:01] <shadeslayer> lex79: i still have that pbuilder issue :(
[19:02] <lex79> becuase you don't save when you exit from the chroot
[19:02] <shadeslayer> i did 
[19:02] <lex79> strange then
[19:03] <Riddell> lex79: do you have all 5.1 speakers working or just 2?
[19:03] <lex79> Riddell: all 6 speakers work here
[19:03] <Riddell> lex79: please pastebin  pacmd list
[19:03] <lex79> where's?
[19:04] <Riddell> on a pastebin
[19:04] <lex79> where's pacmd?
[19:04] <Riddell> it's a command
[19:04] <lex79> ah
[19:04] <Riddell> pulseaudio-utils
[19:05] <CIA-116> [muon] jmthomas * 1181913 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/muon/MainWindow.cpp Debug cleanup
[19:05] <shadeslayer> lex79: zomg .. its working now :S
[19:05] <shadeslayer> i didnt do a thing
[19:06] <lex79> Riddell: http://pastebin.com/sbvxEBN6
[19:07] <JontheEchidna> I need to release this at some point... http://imgur.com/UvaVZ
[19:09] <seaLne> lex79: you aren't using 5.1 your card must be up mixing, look at the active profile 
[19:10] <lex79> ah, well but all 6 speakers work
[19:11] <Riddell> 19:10 <coling> pacmd set-card-profile 0 output:analog-surround-51+input:analog-stereo
[19:11] <Riddell> 19:10 <coling> That would switch to a *real* 5.1 sink. It will also give him all six channels in kmix if he right clicks on the device and chooses "Split Channels"
[19:11] <Riddell> lex79: ^^
[19:12] <lex79> oh LoL
[19:13] <lex79> Riddell: now it works http://imagebin.ca/view/q577kzk.html
[19:13] <lex79> uhm the sound is different now LoL
[19:15] <shadeslayer> lol
[19:18] <debfx> JontheEchidna: what do you think about splitting the Package class into an abstract public and an internal one?
[19:19] <debfx> so the constructor and packageIterator() aren't exposed in the public class
[19:20] <JontheEchidna> is there a way to do this without breaking ABI?
[19:21] <JontheEchidna> (I think that the packageIterator() could be useful in the public class, if somebody wanted to do something the Package doesn't currently)
[19:22] <debfx> do you want to keep qapt 1.1 ABI compatible with 1.0?
[19:23] <JontheEchidna> yes, unless absolutely necessary
[19:24] <debfx> well that change would even break the api ^^
[19:25] <shadeslayer> lex79: i have this now : http://paste.ubuntu.com/504639/
[19:25] <JontheEchidna> something to keep in mind for QApt2, then.
[19:26] <shadeslayer> kdelibs giving me a really really good headache
[19:26] <Riddell> lex79: so do you conclude we need a GUI to configure that?
[19:26] <Riddell> and is it worth adding a week before release
[19:27] <lex79> Riddell: I think we can survive without it and do the right thing in natty
[19:28] <lex79> shadeslayer: I dunno, see the waning about automake is missing and bla bla bla
[19:33] <lex79> Riddell: where's the GUI btw?
[19:34] <debfx> JontheEchidna: the visibility patch kind of breaks the ABI, but that only affects qapt-batch
[19:37] <debfx> Riddell: could you upload amarok once more, I've added a new patch
[19:37] <JontheEchidna> debfx: not too concerned about that since qapt-batch is built simultaneously
[19:52] <seaLne> Riddell: kamrmic->lucid->maverick grub error http://selkie.fankled.net/~kd/tmp/upgradegrub.png
[19:54] <lex79> do you have a custom boot menu?
[19:54] <seaLne> no
[19:55] <lex79> ignore it, it's not an error
[19:55] <seaLne> btw i'm currently in the same room as Riddell 
[19:56] <seaLne> so we were talking about it
[19:58] <lex79> good for you, but I wanted just say I saw that message every time I did dist-upgrade ;)
[19:59] <lex79> and everything went ok
[20:01] <txwikinger> Riddell: My presentation about how to hack Qt with python was pretty successful
[20:05] <bulldog98> txwikinger: log or something?
[20:06] <txwikinger> I will post something on my blog later
[20:06] <txwikinger> I think someone did also a voicerecording of it
[20:07] <bulldog98> cool
[20:15] <lex79> ScottK: they say to me with lucid->maverick upgrade, in maverick they have kbluetooth and bluedevil both installed and they have to remove kbluetooth manually
[20:16] <lex79> since it causes crash
[20:16] <ScottK> Riddell: ^^^ Need to ask mvo to remove kbluetooth.  I know he's got at least one more upload to do.
[20:16] <ScottK> Actually ...
[20:16] <lex79> ScottK: kbluetooth is not in maverick
[20:16] <ScottK> lex79: Did they upgrade using update-manager?
[20:16] <lex79> yes they did
[20:16] <ScottK> If they did, it should get removed as part of the upgrade process.
[20:17] <lex79> yes, weird thing
[20:17] <ScottK> I'd file a bug on update-manager with details and try to talk to mvo about it.
[20:17] <lex79> thanks
[20:44] <lex79> I think kbluetooth should go in PostUpgradeRemove here: http://pastebin.com/9i09VdM3
[20:44] <lex79> in DistUpgrade/DistUpgrade.cfg
[20:45] <ScottK> lex79: Since it's been removed from the archive, it should be automatically dealt with I think.  It should not HAVE to go there, but that may be the best way to deal with it now.
[20:49] <lex79> I'm looking at demoted.cfg file but I think it's not the right place :)
[20:53] <shadeslayer> wont a replaces/breaks to our existing package ensure that?
[20:53] <lex79> nope
[20:53] <shadeslayer> or am i missing something ?
[20:53] <shadeslayer> why?
[21:00] <lex79> since kbluetooth is not anymore in the seed should go out automatically with update-manager
[21:08] <shadeslayer> hmm
[21:10] <shadeslayer> ScottK: i give up, i cant do this merge
[21:10] <ScottK> OK.
[21:11] <ScottK> debfx should do it then as a graduation excercise for his MOTU application ....
[21:11] <ScottK> (kdelibs)
[21:11] <shadeslayer> kubuntu_97 patch refuses to work, quilt can patch stuff but debuild fails to do it...
[21:11] <shadeslayer> debfx: best of luck for MOTU and kdelibs, your gonna need it
[21:18] <debfx> ScottK: I'm busy preparing for a math exam on monday
[21:18] <ScottK> debfx: OK.
[21:40] <Riddell> ScottK: kbluetooth isn't in the archive, it'll prompt to have it removed
[21:41] <ScottK> Riddell: Right, but apparently it didn't according to lex79's reports.
[21:42] <Riddell> just looked at seaLne's computer which did a karmic->lucid->marverick upgrade and there's no kbluetooth
[21:42] <ScottK> Cool
[21:42]  * ScottK looks at lex79.
[21:42] <lex79> strange
[21:43] <Riddell> I'd guess that when it asked "do you want to remove old packages" you clicked no
[21:43] <lex79> he clicked yes
[21:43] <Riddell> then report a bug with /var/log/dist-upgrade/* attached
[21:43] <lex79> he is an advanced user btw
[21:45] <lex79> ok
[23:44]  * dantti wishes to use qt in aptcc, glib docs sucks