[00:00] ScottK: I don‘t get any errors or output by dh_install --sourcedir=debian/tmp --list-missing [00:22] Is it just me or has the Qt tarball gotten larger? [00:22] Adding features = Adding code [00:24] yes about 60 MB more large than 4.6 [00:26] uhm no, just 40 MB :) [00:29] anybody know what's with the unused kubuntu_19_gtkstyle_inactive_background.diff in qt4-x11? [00:30] looks like it was just not included in the series file last upload [00:31] go-ooo is dead? [00:32] JontheEchidna: also kubuntu_20 is not in the series file [00:32] fixing. I'm going to do an upload tonight [00:32] though now I have to rebuild the entire source package, which takes forever :( [00:33] [ubuntu] Jonathan Thomas * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20101001233342-1dvg2r8a0b5w8e9j * debian/ (changelog patches/series) (log message trimmed) [00:33] Add kubuntu_21_fix_phantom_cursor.diff to fix a problem visible in several KDE [00:33] applications (such as Konversation, KPackageKit, and KOrg, to name a few) where [00:34] I can build for you if it's necessary, it takes ~ 1 hour [00:35] but if you have to test something is better if you do since you know where to see [00:35] I mean debuild -S -sd, takes about 3 minutes, lol [00:36] uhm :) [00:41] I don't understand how to reproduce the bug [00:42] the bug? [00:42] kubuntu_21_fix_phantom_cursor.diff [00:42] where's the problem with the cursor? [00:42] it's easiest to trigger in konversation [00:43] you try to paste a multiline paste, and when the dialog comes up it messed up the cursor [00:43] and the cursor will be invisible when you mouse over the main window [00:44] JontheEchidna: ok got it, did you start to build Qt? shall I do? [00:44] I just uploaded it [00:44] lol [00:45] I thought you had to run pbuilder and test the fix :) [00:45] already did [00:45] brilliant [00:45] but I didn't notice the other patches, so I had to do debuild -S -sd again [00:45] ah ok [00:48] JontheEchidna: there was also this bug 652029 [00:48] Launchpad bug 652029 in qt4-x11 (Ubuntu) "package libqt4-help 4:4.6.3-0ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite '/usr/share/qt4/translations/qt_help_cs.qm', which is also in package libqtcore4 4:4.6.3-0ubuntu1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/652029 [01:02] Hi guys, problems with Pulse in 10.10RC, apparently. All my X-Fi's interfaces, plus a custom upmixing ALSA device I defined, have vanished from my phonon config and been replaced with a single X-Fi Analog Stereo output. [01:04] hmmm, and crimsun and coling aren't here [01:04] pity [01:04] you might have to file a bug in launchpad [01:04] :( [01:05] Hm, okay. [01:05] although there is a command for that [01:05] !bug [01:05] If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs - Bugs in/wishes for the IRC bots (not Ubuntu) can be filed at http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots [01:05] which is sorta cool [01:07] File under phonon or pulseaudio? [01:07] PA I think [01:07] Okay. [01:08] http://pulseaudio.org/wiki/KDE [01:09] actually, a possible fix is there too [01:09] * valorie keeps the page for later possible use [01:17] No dice on the fix, filling out the bug report. [01:39] [muon] jmthomas * 1181754 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/libmuon/PackageModel/ (PackageWidget.cpp PackageWidget.h) (log message trimmed) [01:39] Optimize sorting to save ~0.25s on startup. The nitty gritty: -Sort the [01:39] PackageList before adding it. This way we can use the more efficient [02:42] [libqapt] jmthomas * 1181764 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/src/cache.cpp (log message trimmed) [02:42] Evil but Necessary, libapt-pkg not thread safe, afaict. This alleviates the [02:42] ~0.5s hang on startup for consumer applications. It should be fairly safe, [02:42] * JontheEchidna feels dirty [02:43] Really should be safe, though [03:13] [muon] jmthomas * 1181767 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/libmuon/PackageModel/PackageWidget.cpp Set the busy cursor on startup until the packages are added to the PackageModel [03:46] [muon] jmthomas * 1181775 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/muon/ (MainWindow.cpp MainWindow.h) Probably would be best to disable the "launch Software Properties" action whilst in the middle of doing things... [04:21] lex79: On the bug for release notes, use "Also affects project" and add a task for the ubuntu-release-notes project. [04:21] ScottK: ok thanks [04:23] [muon] jmthomas * 1181778 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/kded/ (4 files in 2 dirs) (log message trimmed) [04:23] Add KStatusNotifierItem support. Currently it can do either KNotify-only w/ [04:23] actions/persistance, KSNI-only, or a KSNI/KNotify combo where the KNotify is not [04:24] ScottK: it says "I have the URL for the upstream bug:" [04:24] or [04:24] "I have already emailed an upstream bug contact" [04:24] lex79: There's an option for pick another project above that. [04:28] [muon] jmthomas * 1181779 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/muon/MainWindow.cpp Don't enable the actions until the backend is ready. (We already check for this, but they were all enabled at start up until now) [04:29] Riddell: hi, I'm trying to figure out why plasma-netbook alone in debian testing is not starting, despite of having your patch (link in debian bug#584905). did you change more? where else should I look? [04:30] [muon] jmthomas * 1181780 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/updater/UpdaterWindow.cpp Set actions to false until the backend is ready here, too. [04:31] ScottK: http://imagebin.ca/view/Enf_QlG.html [04:31] I'm unable :( [04:31] lex79: See where it says Project: [04:31] Linux (choose another project) [04:32] Click on "choose another project" [04:32] well but it will replaces linux [04:32] And people wonder why I hate the LP U/I. [04:32] I want linux and ubuntu-release-note [04:32] lex79: No, it will add a task for the other project. [04:32] not just linux [04:32] That's what you'll get. [04:32] ah try [04:33] done, thanks [04:34] that UI is ugly [04:46] it is. [04:46] qt4-x11 accepted, BTW. === rgreening_ is now known as rgreening [05:23] woah, no apachelogger? [05:23] I've gotten sponsorship to UDS [05:24] and want to make plans for fun! [05:24] also upgrading to 10.10 [05:24] which is going slowly.... [09:25] markey: oh amarok has its own packager mailing list? [09:27] is one of the kubuntu-members around (I’m finished with packaging kdelibs) [09:34] debfx: yes [09:34] it's very handy [09:34] this way we can communicate efficiently [09:35] markey: how can I subscribe to it? [09:41] Riddell: ping [09:41] debfx: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/amarok-packagers [09:57] markey: thanks [09:58] :) [11:06] bulldog98: pong [11:07] Riddell: should I send you the diff of debian folder for kdelibs, because I don‘t have commit right? [11:13] bulldog98: send a diff or bzr push lp:~bulldog98/kdelibs/4.5.2 then request a merge [11:14] bulldog98: then build the source package making sure ~ppa1 is in the version number and dput ppa:kubuntu-ninjas [11:14] ah, you already did that, lovely [11:14] Riddell: it‘s already in PPA [11:47] bulldog98: which did you go for? [11:49] Riddell: I’ll upload it [12:05] Riddell: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~bulldog98/kdelibs/4.5.2/+merge/37343 [12:08] bulldog98: +usr/bin/preparetips I'm pretty sure there's some reason why we don't want that [12:09] yes we have it in pkg-kde-tools instead [12:09] bulldog98: what happened to debian/libsolid4.symbols ? [12:09] and debian/libthreadweaver4.symbols ? [12:09] Riddell: they gave errors [12:10] best to fix the errors then rather than just ignore then :) [12:10] do you have the buildlogs with the errors? [12:11] Riddell: was something about not matching symbols [12:12] Riddell: for usr/bin/preparetips should I do an lintian-overrides? [12:14] bulldog98: put it in debian/not-installed [12:14] k [12:14] oh it's already there [12:15] Riddell: maybe removing the ./ would do the trick [12:16] worth a shot [12:27] Riddell: found http://pastebin.kubuntu-de.org/201 [12:49] I found 5-7 missing symbols [12:53] bulldog98: that pastebin isn't a missing symbol as I read it [12:53] can you put the full build log somewhere? [12:53] Riddell: I know that’s an other problem [12:53] Riddell: I’ll paste you, but I must change the LANG to C [13:20] [muon] jmthomas * 1181835 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/ (ChangeLog kded/UpdateEvent/UpdateEvent.cpp) Fix a crash in muon-notifier [13:40] [muon] jmthomas * 1181841 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/kded/ (4 files in 3 dirs) Port the notifier Event class from taking a QPixmap to a KIcon. It didn't fix the invisible tray icon bug as I had hoped, but we now get icons in the tray icon context menu [14:01] Riddell: From the log, this seems perhaps related to your changes: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/1:0.142.17/+build/1984175/+files/buildlog_ubuntu-maverick-i386.update-manager_1%3A0.142.17_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz [14:29] Riddell: http://pastebin.kubuntu-de.org/202 log [16:57] bulldog98: hmm, my build of kde4libs didn't have any symbols issues [16:58] I'll upload it to the PPA to see if it works there [17:31] Riddell: urgent, PM [17:55] afiestas: on maverick rc live when i copy a file from my phone i get an error but the file is copied: http://selkie.fankled.net/~kd/tmp/obexcopy.png [17:57] Nice informative error message. [17:57] yes :) [18:06] afiestas: ah actually the files are 0 size so copying did fail === rdieter_ is now known as rdieter === rdieter is now known as rdieter_ === rdieter_ is now known as rdieter [18:14] [muon] jmthomas * 1181903 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/kded/ (4 files in 3 dirs) Pass the icon around as a QString rather than a KIcon, and use set by name functions for the KSNI. Fixes the invisible tray icon bug [18:23] JontheEchidna: how can I test a locally built version of libqapt? [18:23] [kubuntu-notification-helper] Jonathan Thomas * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20101002172310-ckt708dt0bktkadu * src/daemon/ (6 files in 5 dirs) Port invisible tray icon fix over from muon-notifier. It'd be neat to find a way to share this code, though. [18:23] without overwriting the system qaptworker [18:23] hmm [18:24] different install prefix maybe? [18:24] though the dbus .service file may not like that [18:25] yeah, it has "Exec=/usr/bin/qaptworker" hardcoded [18:27] could I start qaptworker manually? [18:27] you'd have to start it as root, and then use it within 10 seconds of running it [18:28] use it == start an operation [18:29] well I could just remove the timer :) [18:29] ;-) [18:41] loving the new ubuntu font in 10.10 [18:41] high fives all around -- my only issue now is a non-working volume control in Amarok *and* Kmix [18:42] I just chatted briefly with Colin about PA and KDE; we can't push anything for the 10.10 release, but I'll hopefully have something done shortly for maverick-proposed. [18:42] Colin Gunthire? [18:42] JontheEchidna: yes. [18:43] k [18:43] I know several Colin's ;) [18:44] I'm sitting next to him [18:44] crimsun: I'm looking at patches 192, 193 and 194 http://svn.mandriva.com/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/packages/cooker/pulseaudio/current/SOURCES/ [18:44] http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.audio.pulseaudio.scm/2725 [18:46] valorie: you didnt find them squashed? :( [18:47] heh [18:47] I had to quit amarok -- even mute doesn't work [18:48] but I have a meeting this am and no time for problem solving right now [18:49] Riddell: do these patches solve the problem that HDMI can be the default sink? [18:50] with 0194 patch I think so [18:50] JontheEchidna: preliminary -fvisibility=hidden patch: http://people.ubuntu.com/~debfx/qapt/qapt_visbility_hidden.diff [18:51] debfx: yes that's 0194 [18:51] JontheEchidna: I copied that cmake code from kde, not sure if all those checks are really necessary [18:52] neaty-o [18:53] debfx: does this just fix compilation with fvisibility=hidden, or does it also make it compile with fvisibility=hidden too? [18:53] Riddell: would be good to get them in, sound stopped working when I switched from alsa to pulse because hdmi was default and the proper sink was muted [18:54] JontheEchidna: it compiles qapt with -fvisibility=hidden [18:54] nice [18:56] next task would be to get rid of libapt-pkg includes in public headers [18:57] do we want to add the speaker profiles tab to the phonon kcm with this patch? http://svn.mandriva.com/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/packages/cooker/kdebase4-runtime/current/SOURCES/kdebase-runtime-4.5-speakersetup.patch?revision=571299&view=markup [18:58] [libqapt] jmthomas * 1181912 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/ (6 files in 3 dirs) fvisibility=hidden support by Felix Geyer. Prevents libqapt from exposing symbols from other libraries it uses [18:58] anyone care about 5.1 speaker setup? [18:59] my 5.1 works out of the box [19:01] lex79: i still have that pbuilder issue :( [19:02] becuase you don't save when you exit from the chroot [19:02] i did [19:02] strange then [19:03] lex79: do you have all 5.1 speakers working or just 2? [19:03] Riddell: all 6 speakers work here [19:03] lex79: please pastebin pacmd list [19:03] where's? [19:04] on a pastebin [19:04] where's pacmd? [19:04] it's a command [19:04] ah [19:04] pulseaudio-utils [19:05] [muon] jmthomas * 1181913 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/muon/MainWindow.cpp Debug cleanup [19:05] lex79: zomg .. its working now :S [19:05] i didnt do a thing [19:06] Riddell: http://pastebin.com/sbvxEBN6 [19:07] I need to release this at some point... http://imgur.com/UvaVZ [19:09] lex79: you aren't using 5.1 your card must be up mixing, look at the active profile [19:10] ah, well but all 6 speakers work [19:11] 19:10 pacmd set-card-profile 0 output:analog-surround-51+input:analog-stereo [19:11] 19:10 That would switch to a *real* 5.1 sink. It will also give him all six channels in kmix if he right clicks on the device and chooses "Split Channels" [19:11] lex79: ^^ [19:12] oh LoL [19:13] Riddell: now it works http://imagebin.ca/view/q577kzk.html [19:13] uhm the sound is different now LoL [19:15] lol [19:18] JontheEchidna: what do you think about splitting the Package class into an abstract public and an internal one? [19:19] so the constructor and packageIterator() aren't exposed in the public class [19:20] is there a way to do this without breaking ABI? [19:21] (I think that the packageIterator() could be useful in the public class, if somebody wanted to do something the Package doesn't currently) [19:22] do you want to keep qapt 1.1 ABI compatible with 1.0? [19:23] yes, unless absolutely necessary [19:24] well that change would even break the api ^^ [19:25] lex79: i have this now : http://paste.ubuntu.com/504639/ [19:25] something to keep in mind for QApt2, then. [19:26] kdelibs giving me a really really good headache [19:26] lex79: so do you conclude we need a GUI to configure that? [19:26] and is it worth adding a week before release [19:27] Riddell: I think we can survive without it and do the right thing in natty [19:28] shadeslayer: I dunno, see the waning about automake is missing and bla bla bla [19:33] Riddell: where's the GUI btw? [19:34] JontheEchidna: the visibility patch kind of breaks the ABI, but that only affects qapt-batch [19:37] Riddell: could you upload amarok once more, I've added a new patch [19:37] debfx: not too concerned about that since qapt-batch is built simultaneously [19:52] Riddell: kamrmic->lucid->maverick grub error http://selkie.fankled.net/~kd/tmp/upgradegrub.png [19:54] do you have a custom boot menu? [19:54] no [19:55] ignore it, it's not an error [19:55] btw i'm currently in the same room as Riddell [19:56] so we were talking about it [19:58] good for you, but I wanted just say I saw that message every time I did dist-upgrade ;) [19:59] and everything went ok [20:01] Riddell: My presentation about how to hack Qt with python was pretty successful [20:05] txwikinger: log or something? [20:06] I will post something on my blog later [20:06] I think someone did also a voicerecording of it [20:07] cool [20:15] ScottK: they say to me with lucid->maverick upgrade, in maverick they have kbluetooth and bluedevil both installed and they have to remove kbluetooth manually [20:16] since it causes crash [20:16] Riddell: ^^^ Need to ask mvo to remove kbluetooth. I know he's got at least one more upload to do. [20:16] Actually ... [20:16] ScottK: kbluetooth is not in maverick [20:16] lex79: Did they upgrade using update-manager? [20:16] yes they did [20:16] If they did, it should get removed as part of the upgrade process. [20:17] yes, weird thing [20:17] I'd file a bug on update-manager with details and try to talk to mvo about it. [20:17] thanks [20:44] I think kbluetooth should go in PostUpgradeRemove here: http://pastebin.com/9i09VdM3 [20:44] in DistUpgrade/DistUpgrade.cfg [20:45] lex79: Since it's been removed from the archive, it should be automatically dealt with I think. It should not HAVE to go there, but that may be the best way to deal with it now. [20:49] I'm looking at demoted.cfg file but I think it's not the right place :) [20:53] wont a replaces/breaks to our existing package ensure that? [20:53] nope [20:53] or am i missing something ? [20:53] why? [21:00] since kbluetooth is not anymore in the seed should go out automatically with update-manager [21:08] hmm [21:10] ScottK: i give up, i cant do this merge [21:10] OK. [21:11] debfx should do it then as a graduation excercise for his MOTU application .... [21:11] (kdelibs) [21:11] kubuntu_97 patch refuses to work, quilt can patch stuff but debuild fails to do it... [21:11] debfx: best of luck for MOTU and kdelibs, your gonna need it [21:18] ScottK: I'm busy preparing for a math exam on monday [21:18] debfx: OK. [21:40] ScottK: kbluetooth isn't in the archive, it'll prompt to have it removed [21:41] Riddell: Right, but apparently it didn't according to lex79's reports. [21:42] just looked at seaLne's computer which did a karmic->lucid->marverick upgrade and there's no kbluetooth [21:42] Cool [21:42] * ScottK looks at lex79. [21:42] strange [21:43] I'd guess that when it asked "do you want to remove old packages" you clicked no [21:43] he clicked yes [21:43] then report a bug with /var/log/dist-upgrade/* attached [21:43] he is an advanced user btw [21:45] ok === yofel_ is now known as yofel [23:44] * dantti wishes to use qt in aptcc, glib docs sucks