[02:11] <_schism_> evening all
[02:12] <aveilleux> hello _schism_
[02:18] <_schism_> has anyone here ever used openvas?  I had my media machine get hit and I think I fixed it but I am not sure and this seems to be the program to check those kinda things out but cant get it to run
[02:19] <aveilleux> _schism_: OpenVAS is a fairly complicated system...
[02:20] <_schism_> I was afraid of that :(  can you recomened anything else to scan it for stuff that people can use against it?
[02:21] <aveilleux> _schism_: Depends on what kind of ports you have open. How do you interface with the machine? How does media get put onto the machine? Do you SSH into the box?
[02:22] <_schism_> I use ssh and did use vnc but did away with vnc.  I got rid of it before I noticed the logs but I dont remember exactly when in comparrison
[02:23] <_schism_> nmap maybe?
[02:23] <aveilleux> _schism_: nmap is pretty good
[02:23] <aveilleux> _schism_: Did you change the SSH port?
[02:25] <_schism_> yes I did at the same time I got rid of vnc.  I use the auth key thingie on it instead of the password which is the better way to do it if I understood my google foo correctly
[02:26] <_schism_> hmmm if I am reading correctly nmap just does open ports but doesnt check for any stuff that can be used against you correct?
[02:27] <aveilleux> _schism_: Checking for "things that can be used against you" can't be done, since cracking tools evolve constantly
[02:27] <aveilleux> _schism_: Define "auth key thingie"
[02:28] <_schism_> the private key
[02:29] <aveilleux> _schism_: Public key authentication? You can do that with a password as well
[02:30] <_schism_> yeah public key.  way too many bookmarks..........
[02:39] <aveilleux> _schism_: Security isn't really my speciality, just don't enable the root account and run nothing on an account with sudo rights
[02:39] <aveilleux> Change all of the standard ports (SSH, FTP, etc)
[02:40] <_schism_> aveilleux,  thanks for the help. it was probably a mistake on my part before but I realy do appreciate your help
[02:40] <aveilleux> _schism_: no problem. I run two servers so I understadn your concern :)
[02:40] <aveilleux> understand*
[02:41] <_schism_> yeah mine is for the kids to be able to watch their movies from so I dont want someone on there putting stuff that they shouldnt be seeing on there
[02:42] <aveilleux> _schism_ : How do you get the movies onto the server?
[02:42] <_schism_> I have been buying movies with the digital copies on them and downloading them to the machine.
[02:43] <aveilleux> _schism_: Yes, but how are you actually getting the files onto the machine? USB stick, FTP, what
[02:44] <_schism_> usualy a usb hd
[02:44] <_schism_> work has a lot more bandwidth than I do ;)
[02:45] <aveilleux> _schism_: Wait, so if this is in your house... what ports are forwarded?
[02:46] <_schism_> right now since I found the machine goofed up only port 80 to a dvr I have and thats all
[02:48] <aveilleux> _schism_: Why is the port forwarded, I'm a little confused (since this is all running locally, I assume)
[02:49] <_schism_> the dvr is for a camera system and it is fowarded to the dvr for offsite viewing
[02:51] <aveilleux> _schism_: I see. Then the video feed is running over HTTP?
[02:52] <_schism_> its uses the port 80 inbound to trigger outbound to the client software on other ports
[02:52] <_schism_> its a diffrent machine not the media machine
[02:52] <aveilleux> _schism_: Um, okay
[02:56] <zkriesse> G'day N-14 and PrimeRad
[02:56] <N-14> Hi
[02:56] <PrimeRad> Hello
[02:59] <_schism_> wow look at all the attempts to pop my machine in the last 30 minutes
[02:59] <aveilleux> _schism_: You might want to change your port.
[02:59] <_schism_> 95.211.127.96
[02:59] <_schism_> wonder how many boards I can post that into.....
[02:59] <aveilleux> _schism_: Don't do it.
[03:00] <aveilleux> _schism_: I do not encourage retaliation. They probably have better defenses than you do.
[03:00] <_schism_> true didnt mean for retaliation I meant as far as ips to watch out for
[03:00] <aveilleux> _schism_: More likely than not that IP will be changed within the day
[03:01] <aveilleux> _schism_: No one has static IPs anymore
[03:01] <aveilleux> (unless you request them)
[03:01] <_schism_> sadly enough it didnt start happening until I cam in here asking for help :(
[03:03] <aveilleux> Weird
[03:03] <_schism_> but at least everything is closed down now so it makes me feel a lot better
[03:03] <PrimeRad> What are u then Enemy of the State?
[03:04] <aveilleux> Could be
[03:04] <_schism_> lol nope just a guy trying to make sure my kids dont see stuff they shouldnt and trying to learn a bit about nix
[03:04] <PrimeRad> lol
[03:05] <aveilleux> _schism_ Something you can try (that I've heard of but never used) is iptables autobanning
[03:05] <aveilleux> I don't know how it works, sadly
[03:06] <collinp> As in?
[03:06] <PrimeRad> You've got a neophyte here. I'm still learning my TI calculator.
[03:06] <_schism_> I have been reading about iptables and am trying to wrap my head around those as well
[03:06] <collinp> Depending upon the kind of attack it is, there are several programs available to do the job.
[03:06] <collinp> If you want to go for the gold, run a Intrusion Prevention System.
[03:07]  * _schism_ adds yet another thing to his google list
[03:07] <collinp> My VPS gets attacked over SSH around 200 times in 12 hours.
[03:07] <collinp> Mostly brute-force attacks.
[03:07] <PrimeRad> I'm in trouble aren't I?
[03:08] <_schism_> nah ti calcs cant be put on the net :)
[03:09] <PrimeRad> Yeah but I'm really new. I'm still learning all the features and I have no programming background.
[03:10] <zkriesse> collinp: Intrusion Prevention System?
[03:10] <collinp> zkriesse: It's self-explanitory.
[03:10] <_schism_> dont worry I am clueless but the guys in here are realy good about helping they have just spent the last 45 minutes or so helping me
[03:10] <collinp> err, explanatory.
[03:11] <zkriesse> _schism_: thanks for the compliment
[03:11] <collinp> If it detects an attack, it logs it, and can be configured to send you a message about it and/or react to it.
[03:11] <_schism_> zkriesse, your welcome
[03:11] <collinp> For example: snort
[03:27] <_schism_> well all I do appreciate the help but I need to go. thanks once again
[05:35] <z_k> Hello people. I'm having a problem with my wireless on Ubuntu. I'm very new to linux. My wireless was working fine, but mysteriously stopped working. If anyone wants to help, I'd appreciate it greatly :)
[06:29] <AbhiJit> hi
[06:33] <stlsaint> hey
[06:33] <AbhiJit> hey
[09:42] <shahan> .
[09:43] <shahan> I want to remove all the inactive files of my ubuntu
[09:44] <shahan> that is like the  DiskCleanUP in Windows
[09:44] <shahan> is there any way to do this?
[09:44] <AbhiJit> shahan, try ubuntu tweak or bleachbit
[09:44] <AbhiJit> first try bleachbit
[09:45] <shahan> AbhiJit, is it in SoftwareCenter?
[09:45] <AbhiJit> shahan, yes
[09:45] <shahan> AbhiJit, ok
[09:48] <shahan> nUboon2Age, welcome
[13:00] <duanedesign> morning all
[13:08] <vu1kan> is there any place that ram usage is logged? top doesn't do me any good, really, i'm wanting to know what application is suddenly sucking my ram(and i am aware of the fact that linux uses unallocated ram as a cache), i'll be watching a movie, and my ram usage will go from 40% to max in a matter of seconds...completely randomly; i've tried to duplicate the behavior with top or the system monitor open, with no luck.  i want something that can di
[13:11] <duanedesign> hello vu1kan
[13:12] <vu1kan> hello duanedesign
[13:13] <duanedesign> i use htop instead of top. Can you sort the list in top by memory usage?
[13:14] <vu1kan> yes, you have to hit k or something like that, i don't recall specifically offhand
[13:23] <vu1kan> duanedesign: i'm sorry, i just checked the man page, and you have to use < or > untill it's sorted by the mem column
[13:23] <vu1kan> my bad
[13:51] <vu1kan> nobody else has any ideas?
[14:02] <pedro3005> vu1kan, http://rimuhosting.com/howto/memory.jsp maybe that can help
[14:05] <vu1kan> thanx, pedro3005, this looks like a good place to start...i may just set up  that script at the bottom
[15:45] <bodhi> Anyone here running Safari ?
[15:45] <bodhi> Opera ?
[15:47] <AbhiJit> opera
[15:47] <AbhiJit> bodhi, yes opera
[16:07] <bodhi> I am try my hand at html5
[16:07] <bodhi> Can you tell me, ddoes this video work ?
[16:07] <bodhi> http://bodhizazen.net/video/
[16:07] <bodhi> sound an all ?
[16:07] <bodhi> TY in advance
[16:11] <AbhiJit> ok
[16:12] <AbhiJit> bodhi, first i run it then still 0:10 it runs well like video but after that it runs like slide show one photo after another like that
[16:12] <AbhiJit> when i run it second time it runs well stiil 0:10 everything was ok but then no sound still 0:13 but again after 0:13 everything was ok
[16:12] <AbhiJit> and when i run third time the whole moveis played very well
[16:15] <AbhiJit> bodhi, sound goes off randomly
[16:15] <bodhi> TY
[16:16] <bodhi> The content need to dl before it will play smoothly
[16:16] <bodhi> At least it "worked"
[16:16] <AbhiJit> yah
[16:16] <bodhi> writing html5 video means you need to write code for each browser (kind of a pain)
[16:17] <AbhiJit> hmm
[16:17] <bodhi> that page works in chromium, chrome, and firefox 4 beta
[16:17] <bodhi> sound does not work for me in firefox 3.6.x
[16:17] <AbhiJit> i see
[16:18] <bodhi> You can "fall back" to flash or Java, but that kind of defeats the point , IMO'
[16:18] <bodhi> and it does not work at all for IE
[16:19] <AbhiJit> hmm
[17:33] <johnny77> I'm looking to dual boot ubuntu with windows. I currently have windows installed with Ubuntu installed using Wubi. All the documentation I see talks about partitioning the drive, but I was thinking of installing ubuntu on a removable ssd. Is this possible?
[17:37] <AbhiJit> johnny77, ssd?
[17:38] <AbhiJit> you mean sd card?
[17:38] <johnny77> yes... it's also called a solid slate drive right?
[17:38] <ibuclaw> AbhiJit, solid state. :-)
[17:38] <AbhiJit> dunno
[17:38] <AbhiJit> johnny77, but you can install ubuntu on usb drive and sd card also
[17:38] <AbhiJit> sd card is one used in digi cams
[17:39] <ibuclaw> johnny77, ssd is not different
[17:39] <ibuclaw> *to installing on a normal hard disk
[17:40] <johnny77> but all the documentation talks about partitioning. How do I install without playing with the partitions. Is there a place I can just pick the other drive?
[17:41] <AbhiJit> johnny77, you can just select that ssd as '/' while installing ubuntu?
[17:41] <AbhiJit> first partition it with fat32
[17:42] <johnny77> should the sd card already have a file system on it?
[17:42] <AbhiJit> yes
[17:43] <johnny77> then why do I need to partition it?
[17:43] <AbhiJit> :
[17:43] <AbhiJit> :(
[17:43] <AbhiJit> johnny77, you just process this card as regular hard disk and to the things like wise no difference
[17:43] <AbhiJit> just dont ruine your windows partition! :P
[17:44] <johnny77> That is what I'm worried about.
[17:45] <johnny77> So I basically put in the sd card, reboot my computer with the install CD or USB in. When the Ubuntu install pops up, I pick a duial boot option then pick the drive letter for the SD card.
[17:45] <johnny77> Is that right?
[17:45] <AbhiJit> johnny77, you can be sure about 'which' one is your sd card and which is yoru hdd by using gparted
[17:45] <AbhiJit> right
[17:46] <johnny77> would the ubuntu install see my hhd as C drive?
[17:46] <AbhiJit> no
[17:46] <AbhiJit> something like sda1 etc
[17:46] <johnny77> would it show me the size?
[17:46] <AbhiJit> johnny77, you can know your windows partition by looking at format type - e.g. windows will only have some fat32 or 16 or ntfs
[17:47] <AbhiJit> yes it will show
[17:47] <johnny77> would a 16g SD card be sufficient for ubuntu?
[17:48] <AbhiJit> yes sure
[17:48] <AbhiJit> min req is 4 gb
[17:48] <AbhiJit> of freespace i mean
[17:49] <johnny77> But if I want to create files in ubuntu I'd need a little space for that.
[17:49] <AbhiJit> yes
[17:49] <AbhiJit> but 16 big is sufficient for /
[17:50] <AbhiJit> johnny77, you may need more space only for yoru /home not for /. the '/' will be perfect in 16 gb
[17:51] <johnny77> i'm not sure what you just said... what is /hone /. and / ?
[17:51] <AbhiJit> johnny77, /home is your home directory where your main documents, music, videos, and dowloaded things stay
[17:52] <AbhiJit> and / knows as root partition is onw where os's system files stays e.g. installed software etc
[17:54] <johnny77> So basically your saying if I have a lot of document/music/whatever i might need bigger, but if I only have a few then 16gb would be ok.
[17:54] <AbhiJit> right
[17:54] <Mohan_chml> johnny77: I have a question for you. Are you an application developer? or will others be using your computer?
[17:55] <johnny77> no to both questions.
[17:55] <Mohan_chml> Cool
[17:55] <johnny77> why do you ask?
[17:55] <Mohan_chml> then you can use a common / and not /home and /boot, etc., In separate drives
[17:56] <Mohan_chml> AbhiJit: It will be better to continue with / and you carry on :)
[17:56] <AbhiJit> Mohan_chml, :D
[17:56] <johnny77> would I be able to access files on my HDD when I'm booted into ubuntu?
[17:57] <Mohan_chml> johnny77: and One more question. What is the size of your RAM?
[17:57] <johnny77> I'm pretty sure 1gb.
[17:57] <AbhiJit> johnny77, yes sure
[17:58] <johnny77> I've only been using ubuntu for about a week, but am really enjoying it. If it wasn't for a couple windows only programs, I'd fully switch.
[17:58] <Mohan_chml> johnny77: Ubuntu and other Linux Operating systems Identifies Win File formats like FAT 32 and NTFS. But M$ Will never detect Linux FIle systems. i.e, you cannot view the contents of Ubuntu in Win
[17:59] <Mohan_chml> AbhiJit: make him add 2 GB Swap. make sure he edits the partition correctly
[17:59] <AbhiJit> dinner time!
[17:59] <AbhiJit> :P
[17:59] <johnny77> i read something about the swap partition. should that be on the HHD or the SD card?
[17:59] <Mohan_chml> lol Okay then. I will handle this. Go and have it :P
[18:00] <Mohan_chml> johnny77: HDD
[18:00] <johnny77> so in the end I'll still have to mess with the windows partitions.
[18:01] <Mohan_chml> johnny77: at what stage you are?? and nope. you win partitions remain as it is. What you have to do is, get a 15 GB free space
[18:02] <johnny77> right now I have not started at all on the dual boot. I currently have ubuntu installed using wubi.
[18:02] <Mohan_chml> Nice
[18:02] <johnny77> Would the swap be kind of like the wubi install a 2gb section blocked off from windows?
[18:03] <Mohan_chml> Swap area = virtual RAM
[18:04] <Mohan_chml> johnny77: ready to Rock?
[18:05] <johnny77> sorry I can't do it right at this minute, I don't have the SD card... whated to make sure of a couple of things before I went out and bought it.
[18:05] <johnny77> brb
[18:05] <Mohan_chml> Okay :)
[18:14] <johnny77> back... sorry took so long.
[18:14] <Mohan_chml> johnny77: No worries =]
[18:15] <johnny77> so would the swap area be set up during the installation.
[18:15]  * AbhiJit too back!
[18:15] <AbhiJit> having swap on card it self is good in the sense that you can plug that card in any usb boot enabled pc and have swap with you
[18:15] <Mohan_chml> AbhiJit: carry on =]
[18:16] <AbhiJit> also swap is mainly used for hibernation if you are not going to hibernate then swap is not that much necessary
[18:16] <AbhiJit> Mohan_chml, you be here too!
[18:16] <Mohan_chml> Ummm...! I will watch ya :D
[18:16] <AbhiJit> :)
[18:19] <johnny77> I'm really confused. I'm familiar with swap files as windows uses them, but am getting a little confused on how this works with my ubuntu dual boot.
[18:19] <johnny77> Is it just that I have to tell the install where to create the swap files?
[18:22] <Mohan_chml> !swap
[18:22] <ubot2> swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info
[18:22] <Mohan_chml> johnny77: ^ you can read about swap there ^^
[18:23] <johnny77> thank you.
[18:23] <Mohan_chml> (:
[18:24] <hobgoblin> afternoon
[18:24] <Mohan_chml> Hiyas hobgoblin (:
[18:25] <hobgoblin> Mohan_chml: how's things
[18:26] <Mohan_chml> hobgoblin: watched Soccer, Cricket, Animatinon movie, Death race and slept. Is there any other thing to say about today? :D
[18:26] <johnny77> a swap partition is an actual partition on the HHD, right?
[18:26] <hobgoblin> are you hungry?
[18:26] <hobgoblin> johnny77: not necessarily
[18:27] <hobgoblin> depends what you want to do - do you need to suspend/hibernate?
[18:28] <johnny77> i don't plan to suspend/hibernate manually. I not sure if Ubuntu does it automatically after a period of inactivity.
[18:29] <hobgoblin> not that I know of - if you're not planning to then you could use a swap file instead of a partition
[18:29] <hobgoblin> if you go with a partition - as long as it is actually there then the installer will recognise and use it
[18:32] <johnny77> if I'm going to set up a dual boot ubuntu & windows, should I create a swap partition? I'm planning to install ubuntu on a SD card to avoid having to play with the partitions. I have 1 HHD with 1 partition.
[18:35] <hobgoblin> it's up to you :)
[18:37] <johnny77> if I created a swap partition in the HHD it would of course affect the partition windows is installed on and could loose all my data?
[18:38] <hobgoblin> you'd need to shrink windows first - what version windows is it?
[18:38] <johnny77> xp.
[18:39] <hobgoblin> I'd use the partition editor in the livecd then
[18:39] <hobgoblin> assuming you;ve data on there - backup
[18:40] <hobgoblin> there's always the possibility that fate decides to interven in the middle of the partitioning and turns the power off
[18:41] <hobgoblin> the need for swap depends on a couple of things really
[18:41] <johnny77> would it be just as good to create swap files on the HHD instead of a full partition?
[18:41] <hobgoblin> you;d need to be able to create them on a linux partition as far as I know - so you;d still be needing to partition
[18:42] <Mohan_chml> AbhiJit: Thing to remember: always use Ext format to install Ubuntu
[18:42] <AbhiJit> Mohan_chml, not for usb
[18:42] <hobgoblin> how much RAM do you have and what do you intend to use ubuntu for - memory intensive things or not?
[18:42] <hobgoblin> AbhiJit: you;ll not install ubuntu on a fat32 partition
[18:43] <AbhiJit> hobgoblin, unetbootin says so
[18:43] <hobgoblin> that's to do with the iso not an install
[18:43] <shahan> Google earth is not running http://paste.ubuntu.com/504611/
[18:43] <johnny77> I have 1gb memory and only plan to use general computer stuff, email, Open Office, internet... etc.
[18:44] <johnny77> can i create the swap partition on the SD card?
[18:44] <hobgoblin> johnny77: then I would use a swap file - you can create it in the / afaik
[18:45] <johnny77> what is "/ afaik" ?
[18:45] <AbhiJit> johnny77, i told you
[18:45] <hobgoblin> johnny77: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq#How%20do%20I%20add%20more%20swap?
[18:45] <shahan> johnny77: / means root
[18:45] <hobgoblin> johnny77: afaik - as far as I know and / is root - where all the install resides
[18:46] <johnny77> ok, i knew / meant root, but was not sure what afaik meant.
[18:46] <hobgoblin> johnny77: I would create a 1Gb swap file - the link I gave shows a 512Mb one only
[18:46] <hobgoblin> that should be sufficient - I rarely touched swap with 1Gb RAM
[18:48] <johnny77> and that swap file would be on the SD card right?
[18:49] <johnny77> and I'd create that in ubuntu after the install?
[18:50] <hobgoblin> yes
[18:53] <johnny77> ok, thank you everyone...
[18:53] <hobgoblin> :)
[19:53]  * phillw waves, anyone in here used to recovering a dual boot system (windows) via a ubuntu start up usb stick?
[21:18] <Fanshawe> I can't get evolution to play sounds or pop up notifiers for any alarms I set on tasks, appojntments, etc.
[21:18] <Fanshawe> How do I do this?
[21:36] <Fanshawe> A little quiet this evening, I see.
[23:02] <stlsaint> yo yo
[23:09]  * bobo123 goes fetching an yoyo :-)
[23:09] <pedro3005> hey stlsaint
[23:10] <pedro3005> in today's class I went over a bit of...
[23:10] <pedro3005> project euler!
[23:10] <pedro3005> >:)
[23:10] <stlsaint> :P
[23:12] <stlsaint> pedro3005: class minutes?
[23:13] <pedro3005> stlsaint, we started a wiki page here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/FocusGroups/Development/Academy/IntroToPython
[23:13] <stlsaint> awesome
[23:13] <bobo123> I have an avi here with multiple subtitles included in it, vlc(1.06 in ubuntu10.04) do lists the 3 subtitles in its video/subtitle-menu, but when I select any of them, no text is rendered. What can I do?
[23:16] <pedro3005> stlsaint, know anything about IMAP?
[23:20] <stlsaint> mail?
[23:20] <pedro3005> yeah
[23:20] <pedro3005> someone is asking me about configuring imap
[23:21] <stlsaint> in evolution or something? i really dont deal with mail all that much
[23:22] <pedro3005> yeah me neither
[23:27] <bobo123> Here is what vlc is saying when informationlevel is on 2, when I select one of the subtitles: http://pastebin.com/w1EwLeSQ
[23:29] <bobo123> Hm... someone said "build VLC yourself, VLC shipped by ubuntu is broken by their package maintainers.", but I'm not sure I dare to compile vlc myself, do anyone knows of a thirdparty repository with vlc in it that I can use to get a working version of vlc?