| yofel | iirc udev is responsible for the naming, not sure which file though | 00:08 |
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| cjae | kubuntu-10.10-rc-desktop-i386 doesnt "sense" netbook either | 01:35 |
| AbhiJit | hi | 06:29 |
| AbhiJit | hey vish | 07:30 |
| AbhiJit | i think its genuine wishlist. | 07:30 |
| AbhiJit | https://bugs.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bug/651560 | 07:30 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 651560 in hundredpapercuts "Simple way to know distro version and architecture (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,Invalid] | 07:30 |
| AbhiJit | vish, what do you think? | 07:30 |
| AbhiJit | i also wanted this papercut in my lucid | 07:30 |
| nigelb | AbhiJit: have you read the papercuts definition? | 07:31 |
| AbhiJit | nigelb, yah some time ago | 07:31 |
| AbhiJit | nigelb, i was thinking of this information for new user is good | 07:31 |
| AbhiJit | nigelb, if you people have already discussed this bug then leave it | 07:32 |
| nigelb | well, vish did post a really nice solution to that | 07:32 |
| AbhiJit | oh | 07:34 |
| AbhiJit | but it doesnt cover the 32 or 64 bit version | 07:34 |
| nigelb | that might be worthy of a bug, not a papercut tough. | 07:35 |
| nigelb | *though | 07:35 |
| AbhiJit | ohhh | 07:35 |
| AbhiJit | is ther any way we can shift this to 'bug' category? | 07:36 |
| AbhiJit | or should i tell that user to open new bug in 'bug' category? | 07:36 |
| nigelb | I can't think of a particular package to file it against. | 07:36 |
| nigelb | g00=30 | 07:37 |
| nigelb | grrr | 07:37 |
| AbhiJit | that help file 'About Ubuntu' that file? | 07:37 |
| AbhiJit | this issue is still existed with me but its influence is not los | 07:52 |
| AbhiJit | low | 07:52 |
| AbhiJit | i mean early firefox was very evil now its a little evil | 07:52 |
| AbhiJit | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/571101 | 07:52 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 571101 in firefox (Ubuntu) "firefox 3.6.3 freezes regularly and becomes unusable (affects: 4) (heat: 30)" [Undecided,Incomplete] | 07:52 |
| AbhiJit | this bug marked for expire. no one fixed it. | 07:52 |
| AbhiJit | what to do? | 07:52 |
| AbhiJit | :( | 08:03 |
| vish | AbhiJit: hey.. well the info is already there in Ubuntu , as for the architecture not a papercut ;) | 08:33 |
| vish | AbhiJit: did you try what micahg has suggested in comment #1 for that FF bug? | 08:37 |
| vish | comment 2 rather | 08:37 |
| vish | AbhiJit: once you have tried that, report the information on the bug and you can change the bug status back to new | 08:37 |
| AbhiJit | yah | 08:41 |
| AbhiJit | vish, ok | 08:41 |
| tetsuo55 | hey | 09:58 |
| tetsuo55 | could someone review this bug ? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cppcheck/+bug/640057 | 09:58 |
| ubot2 | tetsuo55: Error: Bug #640057 is private. | 09:58 |
| tetsuo55 | once it passes the stage where it is no longer private i can show it to cppcheck developers | 09:58 |
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| braiamp | How I have to proceed if I have a handful of possibly One Hundred Papercut? | 12:14 |
| penguin42 | braiamp: You mean you've found some bugs that you think should be ? | 12:19 |
| braiamp | Specifically this: LP#93632 LP#448158 | 12:19 |
| braiamp | bugs | 12:19 |
| penguin42 | bug 93632 | 12:19 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 93632 in sbackup (Ubuntu) "[apport] sbackupd crashed with GetoptError in long_has_args() (affects: 3) (heat: 34)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/93632 | 12:19 |
| braiamp | but there are so simple like if you run a program without a option or a invalid option | 12:20 |
| braiamp | there are more | 12:20 |
| penguin42 | I'd check to see if they still happen, especially for that one - it's so ancient | 12:21 |
| braiamp | i check it | 12:21 |
| braiamp | and it still there | 12:21 |
| braiamp | see comment #9 | 12:22 |
| penguin42 | oh yeh, and someone already has a fix for it | 12:22 |
| braiamp | yes, but i don't find how upload to the upstream | 12:23 |
| braiamp | they are on LP but the bug doesn't link to them | 12:23 |
| penguin42 | is there a newer upstream? | 12:23 |
| braiamp | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sbackup | 12:24 |
| braiamp | the SF project page links to launchpad | 12:25 |
| penguin42 | braiamp: I'm not sure what the right answer is; I guess you could suggest it for 100.... with a comment saying it's reasonable since the patch is already there | 12:26 |
| braiamp | yes but about | 12:27 |
| braiamp | bug 448158 | 12:27 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 448158 in apport (Ubuntu) "apport-retrace crashed with UnicodeEncodeError in exit() (affects: 9) (dups: 4) (heat: 63)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/448158 | 12:27 |
| braiamp | it could be so simple. | 12:28 |
| penguin42 | braiamp: Well, no one seems to have fixed it, and I don't know python - you could try fixing it? | 12:28 |
| braiamp | add a exception when apport-retrace its called with no option or invalid option says something like: wget --jkl | 12:29 |
| braiamp | wget: opción '--jkl' no reconocida | 12:29 |
| braiamp | Uso: wget [OPCIÓN]... [URL]... | 12:29 |
| braiamp | Intente «wget --help» para mayor opciones. | 12:29 |
| braiamp | instead of a crash. | 12:29 |
| braiamp | if you noticed the both can be reproducible whit the same steps | 12:31 |
| penguin42 | braiamp: For me on Maverick apport-retrace doesn't crash | 12:32 |
| braiamp | ok im on lucid | 12:32 |
| penguin42 | braiamp: I'm wondering though, I'm using the English locale, so I wonder given that the error is Unicode related if it only happens in some locales | 12:32 |
| braiamp | no: | 12:33 |
| braiamp | braiam@braiam-desktop:~$ LC=EN | 12:33 |
| braiamp | braiam@braiam-desktop:~$ apport-retrace | 12:33 |
| braiamp | Usage: apport-retrace [opciones] <informe apport del problema | ID del fallo> | 12:33 |
| braiamp | Traceback (most recent call last): | 12:33 |
| braiamp | File "/usr/bin/apport-retrace", line 195, in <module> | 12:33 |
| braiamp | (reportfile, options) = parse_options() | 12:33 |
| braiamp | File "/usr/bin/apport-retrace", line 78, in parse_options | 12:33 |
| braiamp | optparser.error(_('incorrect number of arguments; use --help for a short help')) | 12:33 |
| braiamp | File "/usr/lib/python2.6/optparse.py", line 1578, in error | 12:33 |
| braiamp | self.exit(2, "%s: error: %s\n" % (self.get_prog_name(), msg)) | 12:33 |
| braiamp | File "/usr/lib/python2.6/optparse.py", line 1567, in exit | 12:33 |
| braiamp | sys.stderr.write(msg) | 12:33 |
| braiamp | UnicodeEncodeError: 'ascii' codec can't encode character u'\xfa' in position 24: ordinal not in range(128) | 12:33 |
| braiamp | braiam@braiam-desktop:~$ | 12:33 |
| nigelb | !paste | 12:34 |
| ubot2 | For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. | 12:34 |
| devildante | braiamp: next time, please paste long messages in pastebin.com or paste.ubuntu.com :) | 12:34 |
| devildante | argh, too late :p | 12:35 |
| nigelb | heh | 12:35 |
| braiamp | ok | 12:35 |
| braiamp | so sorry | 12:35 |
| penguin42 | <breakfast> | 12:38 |
| braiamp | i'm searching for another that leak the bug | 12:40 |
| braiamp | another example: | 12:58 |
| braiamp | bug 363116 | 12:58 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 363116 in subdownloader (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "run.py crashed with UnicodeEncodeError in decode() (affects: 4) (heat: 7)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/363116 | 12:58 |
| braiamp | they are only for the unicode | 12:59 |
| braiamp | but for some users the can said "ubuntu fools", and they could be easy to audit before the release? | 13:00 |
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| hggdh | well. Easiest way is go, fix, and propose a patch. | 14:44 |
| yofel | that apport crash is odd though, I can't reproduce it on karmic, lucid and maverick with en_US or C. I tend to blame gettext | 14:49 |
| hggdh | maybe indeed locale-related | 16:27 |
| kklimonda | apport-retrace error is locale-related | 16:29 |
| hggdh | yes. One Q is what locale was the OP | 16:30 |
| kklimonda | hmm, probably non-unicode one? | 16:30 |
| kklimonda | errors like that are related to unicode support - but yofel says that it works with C. It may be that the OP has some pt_PT (as in non-unicode locale with national characters) | 16:31 |
| hggdh | actually, some es_* | 16:33 |
| hggdh | I tend to incomplete locales | 16:33 |
| hggdh | even more because he states using an English locale, but the initial apport error message is in Spanish | 16:34 |
| kklimonda | I don't really have time to dig into that today so I'm going to leave you with it ;) | 16:39 |
| hggdh | heh | 17:53 |
| hggdh | but I wonder what the OP wanted with 'LC=EN' | 17:56 |
| * yofel wonders if that's stderr.write not understanding unicode | 18:03 | |
| yofel | I can reproduce that now on maverick with ' LANGUAGE=de_DE.UTF-8 apport-retrace' | 18:03 |
| yofel | but printing the tranlated text works fine.. | 18:03 |
| yofel | hggdh: should that be reassigned to python? | 18:07 |
| yofel | if I replace self.exit(2, "%s: error: %s\n" % (self.get_prog_name(), msg)) | 18:07 |
| yofel | with print ("%s: error: %s\n" % (self.get_prog_name(), msg)) | 18:07 |
| yofel | in /usr/lib/python2.6/optparse.py it doesn't crash | 18:07 |
| hggdh | yofel: sounds plausible to reassing to python. I wonder what 'self.exit()' does, though | 18:08 |
| yofel | actually replacing 'sys.stderr.write' with 'print' fixes it too | 18:08 |
| yofel | hggdh: that's a wrapper function around sys.stderr.write(msg); sys.exit(2) defined a few lines above that | 18:09 |
| hggdh | yofel: also repeated with 'LC_ALL=fr_FR.utf8 apport-retrace' | 18:09 |
| hggdh | so it sounds like sys.stderr.write is missing/has wrong unicode support... | 18:10 |
| yofel | hggdh: try commenting out line 1567 in /usr/lib/python2.6/optparse.py, or replace sys.stderr.write with print | 18:10 |
| hggdh | oh bloody hell, gconf just gave up its ghost here | 18:11 |
| yofel | haha | 18:11 |
| * yofel goes looking at python bugs | 18:12 | |
| hggdh | yofel: this should be easy to test -- writing a small kudge that does the same | 18:13 |
| * hggdh goes on it | 18:13 | |
| hggdh | of course, before that I will reboot to clean up gconf | 18:13 |
| * hggdh wonders if the updates just installed would have messed up with gconfd | 18:14 | |
| hggdh | yofel: just moved to GDM under fr_FR.utf8 -- now I get the error, unless I force en_US.utf8 | 18:23 |
| yofel | this is actually pretty easy to reproduce: launch a python shell with local set to de_DE.UTF-8, import sys, use a uncode char: | 18:28 |
| yofel | >>> u'ü' | 18:28 |
| yofel | u'\xfc' | 18:28 |
| yofel | then run sys.stderr.write(u'\xfc') -> crash | 18:28 |
| hggdh | yay, just found it also ;-) | 18:34 |
| hggdh | so... really sounds like a python issue | 18:34 |
| penguin42 | yofel: That sounds very like the error that was being discussed this morning from apport-retrace? | 18:34 |
| hggdh | penguin42: yes indeed | 18:35 |
| yofel | yes | 18:35 |
| hggdh | valid for stdout also. I wonder is there is something missing somewhere | 18:36 |
| yofel | python 2.7 works fine btw. | 18:38 |
| hggdh | yofel: this is potentially bad | 18:40 |
| yofel | well, I made a trip to #python, and they say you have to encode a unicode string to bytes for 2.6 write() | 19:02 |
| hggdh | sigh | 19:03 |
| njin | hello to all: this have french and chinese mixed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/653664 what can it be ? thanks | 19:55 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 653664 in ubuntu "Chinese characters when French language chosen (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,Incomplete] | 19:55 |
| nigelb | vish: finally | 20:11 |
| nigelb | I get a student response | 20:12 |
| nigelb | 4th time lucky :p | 20:12 |
| hggdh | njin: this is not Chinese | 20:12 |
| vish | nigelb: oh no! thats not a good sign! | 20:12 |
| vish | nigelb: world might end :p | 20:12 |
| hggdh | but it is still weird... | 20:12 |
| nigelb | lol | 20:12 |
| njin | hggdh: sorry my ignorance, but what is it ? | 20:13 |
| hggdh | njin: well, there *is* chinese there also, not on the first figure. The plot thickens... | 20:13 |
| njin | hggdh: sorry, i don't understand, can you explain me | 20:18 |
| nigelb | lol, dpm is going to have an ineresting monday | 20:19 |
| hggdh | njin: the first screenshot shows what *might be Thai, or similar; the others do show ideograms compatible with Chinese/Japanese | 20:19 |
| yofel | the first picture has greek in it IMO, the next one does look chinese | 20:19 |
| vish | one of these days i'm going to boycott ubuntu it i dont get a good kernel! | 20:19 |
| vish | ;p | 20:19 |
| hggdh | njin: and I just verified the checksum the OP gave matches | 20:20 |
| nigelb | vish: #blame-jfo | 20:20 |
| nigelb | vish: or just buy your own corn :D :D | 20:20 |
| vish | yea! | 20:20 |
| * nigelb runs.. | 20:20 | |
| hggdh | yofel: so that's greek? Heh | 20:20 |
| vish | nigelb: funniest thing is that mainline works fine! | 20:20 |
| nigelb | hggdh: yep, greek. I remember physics | 20:21 |
| vish | something in ubuntu is messing it up! this time i'm not letting it go! ;p | 20:21 |
| nigelb | vish: ok, that's bad | 20:21 |
| * hggdh goes look again | 20:21 | |
| hggdh | yofel: absolutely correct... looking at them I can see omega, delta, tau, etc, mixed upper and lower | 20:22 |
| * hggdh really has to *look* at pretty pictures, instead of just cursory glancing | 20:23 | |
| hggdh | njin: I have no idea what to do. I guess the install log might help locate where things went south. | 20:23 |
| hggdh | also if this is limited to GDM, or also happens on a terminal | 20:24 |
| njin | ok thanks to all, i ask to reporter | 20:24 |
| nigelb | someone was talking about firefox showing portugese - BUGabundo I think | 20:25 |
| hggdh | oh, so this has happened to others? | 20:25 |
| yofel | nigelb: right, he purgeda ll langpacks and it was still portugese | 20:25 |
| * hggdh sees his worry index raising | 20:26 | |
| nigelb | yofel: yep, somehow I feel this is connected | 20:26 |
| njin | I'm trying a french install to see if reproduce | 20:26 |
| hggdh | vish: thank you. Interesting to note that the OP does have chinese installed, but no visible Greek | 20:32 |
| nigelb | also would be nice to know if chinese was knowingly installed | 20:33 |
| vish | hggdh: you're welcome! but i think i dint do anything :D | 20:33 |
| hggdh | vish: well, you are trying to install on French :-) | 20:34 |
| * nigelb hands hggdh glasses | 20:34 | |
| vish | hggdh: yofel … | 20:34 |
| hggdh | really. | 20:34 |
| nigelb | vish: njin , not yofel | 20:35 |
| * yofel is confused | 20:35 | |
| vish | even better | 20:35 |
| nigelb | lol | 20:35 |
| * hggdh goes to clean -- REALLY clean -- his glasses | 20:35 | |
| * penguin42 someone should repackage Ubuntu as a multilingual technical language teaching tool | 20:35 | |
| nigelb | haha | 20:35 |
| hggdh | LOL | 20:35 |
| vish | yofel: i thought hggdh confused me for you.. :) | 20:35 |
| nigelb | best quote of the day! | 20:35 |
| yofel | penguin42: +1 :D | 20:36 |
| hggdh | oooohhhh | 20:37 |
| hggdh | NOW I caan see! | 20:37 |
| hggdh | I think | 20:37 |
| nigelb | whats 3^3? | 20:38 |
| hggdh | 27 | 20:39 |
| nigelb | indeed, you can :) :p | 20:39 |
| hggdh | or, more strictly, it is a symbol '3' followed by a symbol '^', followed by a symbol '3' | 20:39 |
| nigelb | heh | 20:41 |
| stenten | What package should I file against for a bug where the wireless drivers are not included in the Maverick LiveCD, like they should be? | 21:59 |
| stenten | (The proprietary Broadcom ones) | 21:59 |
| hggdh | stenten: open against linux. But I doubt they will be there, they are proprietary. There is a package that carries them | 22:24 |
| stenten | I know. Usually you only need to install b43-fwcutter, but in Maverick you also need to install firmware-b43-installer, which isn't in the LiveCD. | 22:26 |
| stenten | I already filed it against Ubiquity as Bug 653790; I trust it'll get triaged to the right package by those who know what to do. | 22:27 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 653790 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "firmware-b43-installer is not included in the Maverick LiveCD (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/653790 | 22:27 |
| penguin42 | does anyone have a blank CD that they can try something with (it won't need to be written) | 22:29 |
| stenten | penguin42: Sure, I guess. What would you like? | 22:32 |
| penguin42 | stenten: put it in, and then right click on an iso in nautilus and do Write To Disc... I get a dialog with it letting me select the media to write to and it says 6.90MB free space; it's a 690MB disk | 22:33 |
| penguin42 | or I guess it might be the difference in the size of the ISO and the raw disc capacity or something? | 22:34 |
| stenten | penguin42: I get 6.9MB free too. I think you're right; I remember it being free space left on the disk. Try writing it and see what happens? | 22:37 |
| penguin42 | stenten: Yeh writing at the moment; my feeling is that's a bug | 22:37 |
| stenten | Probably. At the very least it's confusing and unintuitive. If you file a bug I can confirm it I guess :) | 22:38 |
| hggdh | penguin42: IIRC, known issue, just do not have the bug # | 22:38 |
| penguin42 | ah ok | 22:38 |
| penguin42 | oh ***** it's just toasted that cd | 22:42 |
| lifeless | I see the same free space stuff, writing the iso worked for me last week | 22:44 |
| penguin42 | ok; that one was a dud for me; which is a shame because I've not got many large CD-R media, and the machine I wanted to install I don't think has DVD | 22:45 |
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