[00:08] iirc udev is responsible for the naming, not sure which file though === ivoks is now known as ivoks-afk [01:35] kubuntu-10.10-rc-desktop-i386 doesnt "sense" netbook either [06:29] hi [07:30] hey vish [07:30] i think its genuine wishlist. [07:30] https://bugs.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bug/651560 [07:30] Launchpad bug 651560 in hundredpapercuts "Simple way to know distro version and architecture (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,Invalid] [07:30] vish, what do you think? [07:30] i also wanted this papercut in my lucid [07:31] AbhiJit: have you read the papercuts definition? [07:31] nigelb, yah some time ago [07:31] nigelb, i was thinking of this information for new user is good [07:32] nigelb, if you people have already discussed this bug then leave it [07:32] well, vish did post a really nice solution to that [07:34] oh [07:34] but it doesnt cover the 32 or 64 bit version [07:35] that might be worthy of a bug, not a papercut tough. [07:35] *though [07:35] ohhh [07:36] is ther any way we can shift this to 'bug' category? [07:36] or should i tell that user to open new bug in 'bug' category? [07:36] I can't think of a particular package to file it against. [07:37] g00=30 [07:37] grrr [07:37] that help file 'About Ubuntu' that file? [07:52] this issue is still existed with me but its influence is not los [07:52] low [07:52] i mean early firefox was very evil now its a little evil [07:52] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/571101 [07:52] Launchpad bug 571101 in firefox (Ubuntu) "firefox 3.6.3 freezes regularly and becomes unusable (affects: 4) (heat: 30)" [Undecided,Incomplete] [07:52] this bug marked for expire. no one fixed it. [07:52] what to do? [08:03] :( [08:33] AbhiJit: hey.. well the info is already there in Ubuntu , as for the architecture not a papercut ;) [08:37] AbhiJit: did you try what micahg has suggested in comment #1 for that FF bug? [08:37] comment 2 rather [08:37] AbhiJit: once you have tried that, report the information on the bug and you can change the bug status back to new [08:41] yah [08:41] vish, ok [09:58] hey [09:58] could someone review this bug ? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cppcheck/+bug/640057 [09:58] tetsuo55: Error: Bug #640057 is private. [09:58] once it passes the stage where it is no longer private i can show it to cppcheck developers === AbhiJit is now known as __abhijit`` === __abhijit`` is now known as AbhiJit [12:14] How I have to proceed if I have a handful of possibly One Hundred Papercut? [12:19] braiamp: You mean you've found some bugs that you think should be ? [12:19] Specifically this: LP#93632 LP#448158 [12:19] bugs [12:19] bug 93632 [12:19] Launchpad bug 93632 in sbackup (Ubuntu) "[apport] sbackupd crashed with GetoptError in long_has_args() (affects: 3) (heat: 34)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/93632 [12:20] but there are so simple like if you run a program without a option or a invalid option [12:20] there are more [12:21] I'd check to see if they still happen, especially for that one - it's so ancient [12:21] i check it [12:21] and it still there [12:22] see comment #9 [12:22] oh yeh, and someone already has a fix for it [12:23] yes, but i don't find how upload to the upstream [12:23] they are on LP but the bug doesn't link to them [12:23] is there a newer upstream? [12:24] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sbackup [12:25] the SF project page links to launchpad [12:26] braiamp: I'm not sure what the right answer is; I guess you could suggest it for 100.... with a comment saying it's reasonable since the patch is already there [12:27] yes but about [12:27] bug 448158 [12:27] Launchpad bug 448158 in apport (Ubuntu) "apport-retrace crashed with UnicodeEncodeError in exit() (affects: 9) (dups: 4) (heat: 63)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/448158 [12:28] it could be so simple. [12:28] braiamp: Well, no one seems to have fixed it, and I don't know python - you could try fixing it? [12:29] add a exception when apport-retrace its called with no option or invalid option says something like: wget --jkl [12:29] wget: opción '--jkl' no reconocida [12:29] Uso: wget [OPCIÓN]... [URL]... [12:29] Intente «wget --help» para mayor opciones. [12:29] instead of a crash. [12:31] if you noticed the both can be reproducible whit the same steps [12:32] braiamp: For me on Maverick apport-retrace doesn't crash [12:32] ok im on lucid [12:32] braiamp: I'm wondering though, I'm using the English locale, so I wonder given that the error is Unicode related if it only happens in some locales [12:33] no: [12:33] braiam@braiam-desktop:~$ LC=EN [12:33] braiam@braiam-desktop:~$ apport-retrace [12:33] Usage: apport-retrace [opciones] [12:33] Traceback (most recent call last): [12:33] File "/usr/bin/apport-retrace", line 195, in [12:33] (reportfile, options) = parse_options() [12:33] File "/usr/bin/apport-retrace", line 78, in parse_options [12:33] optparser.error(_('incorrect number of arguments; use --help for a short help')) [12:33] File "/usr/lib/python2.6/optparse.py", line 1578, in error [12:33] self.exit(2, "%s: error: %s\n" % (self.get_prog_name(), msg)) [12:33] File "/usr/lib/python2.6/optparse.py", line 1567, in exit [12:33] sys.stderr.write(msg) [12:33] UnicodeEncodeError: 'ascii' codec can't encode character u'\xfa' in position 24: ordinal not in range(128) [12:33] braiam@braiam-desktop:~$ [12:34] !paste [12:34] For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [12:34] braiamp: next time, please paste long messages in pastebin.com or paste.ubuntu.com :) [12:35] argh, too late :p [12:35] heh [12:35] ok [12:35] so sorry [12:38] [12:40] i'm searching for another that leak the bug [12:58] another example: [12:58] bug 363116 [12:58] Launchpad bug 363116 in subdownloader (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "run.py crashed with UnicodeEncodeError in decode() (affects: 4) (heat: 7)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/363116 [12:59] they are only for the unicode [13:00] but for some users the can said "ubuntu fools", and they could be easy to audit before the release? === ashams_ is now known as ashams === zyga_ is now known as zyga [14:44] well. Easiest way is go, fix, and propose a patch. [14:49] that apport crash is odd though, I can't reproduce it on karmic, lucid and maverick with en_US or C. I tend to blame gettext [16:27] maybe indeed locale-related [16:29] apport-retrace error is locale-related [16:30] yes. One Q is what locale was the OP [16:30] hmm, probably non-unicode one? [16:31] errors like that are related to unicode support - but yofel says that it works with C. It may be that the OP has some pt_PT (as in non-unicode locale with national characters) [16:33] actually, some es_* [16:33] I tend to incomplete locales [16:34] even more because he states using an English locale, but the initial apport error message is in Spanish [16:39] I don't really have time to dig into that today so I'm going to leave you with it ;) [17:53] heh [17:56] but I wonder what the OP wanted with 'LC=EN' [18:03] * yofel wonders if that's stderr.write not understanding unicode [18:03] I can reproduce that now on maverick with ' LANGUAGE=de_DE.UTF-8 apport-retrace' [18:03] but printing the tranlated text works fine.. [18:07] hggdh: should that be reassigned to python? [18:07] if I replace self.exit(2, "%s: error: %s\n" % (self.get_prog_name(), msg)) [18:07] with print ("%s: error: %s\n" % (self.get_prog_name(), msg)) [18:07] in /usr/lib/python2.6/optparse.py it doesn't crash [18:08] yofel: sounds plausible to reassing to python. I wonder what 'self.exit()' does, though [18:08] actually replacing 'sys.stderr.write' with 'print' fixes it too [18:09] hggdh: that's a wrapper function around sys.stderr.write(msg); sys.exit(2) defined a few lines above that [18:09] yofel: also repeated with 'LC_ALL=fr_FR.utf8 apport-retrace' [18:10] so it sounds like sys.stderr.write is missing/has wrong unicode support... [18:10] hggdh: try commenting out line 1567 in /usr/lib/python2.6/optparse.py, or replace sys.stderr.write with print [18:11] oh bloody hell, gconf just gave up its ghost here [18:11] haha [18:12] * yofel goes looking at python bugs [18:13] yofel: this should be easy to test -- writing a small kudge that does the same [18:13] * hggdh goes on it [18:13] of course, before that I will reboot to clean up gconf [18:14] * hggdh wonders if the updates just installed would have messed up with gconfd [18:23] yofel: just moved to GDM under fr_FR.utf8 -- now I get the error, unless I force en_US.utf8 [18:28] this is actually pretty easy to reproduce: launch a python shell with local set to de_DE.UTF-8, import sys, use a uncode char: [18:28] >>> u'ü' [18:28] u'\xfc' [18:28] then run sys.stderr.write(u'\xfc') -> crash [18:34] yay, just found it also ;-) [18:34] so... really sounds like a python issue [18:34] yofel: That sounds very like the error that was being discussed this morning from apport-retrace? [18:35] penguin42: yes indeed [18:35] yes [18:36] valid for stdout also. I wonder is there is something missing somewhere [18:38] python 2.7 works fine btw. [18:40] yofel: this is potentially bad [19:02] well, I made a trip to #python, and they say you have to encode a unicode string to bytes for 2.6 write() [19:03] sigh [19:55] hello to all: this have french and chinese mixed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/653664 what can it be ? thanks [19:55] Launchpad bug 653664 in ubuntu "Chinese characters when French language chosen (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,Incomplete] [20:11] vish: finally [20:12] I get a student response [20:12] 4th time lucky :p [20:12] njin: this is not Chinese [20:12] nigelb: oh no! thats not a good sign! [20:12] nigelb: world might end :p [20:12] but it is still weird... [20:12] lol [20:13] hggdh: sorry my ignorance, but what is it ? [20:13] njin: well, there *is* chinese there also, not on the first figure. The plot thickens... [20:18] hggdh: sorry, i don't understand, can you explain me [20:19] lol, dpm is going to have an ineresting monday [20:19] njin: the first screenshot shows what *might be Thai, or similar; the others do show ideograms compatible with Chinese/Japanese [20:19] the first picture has greek in it IMO, the next one does look chinese [20:19] one of these days i'm going to boycott ubuntu it i dont get a good kernel! [20:19] ;p [20:20] njin: and I just verified the checksum the OP gave matches [20:20] vish: #blame-jfo [20:20] vish: or just buy your own corn :D :D [20:20] yea! [20:20] * nigelb runs.. [20:20] yofel: so that's greek? Heh [20:20] nigelb: funniest thing is that mainline works fine! [20:21] hggdh: yep, greek. I remember physics [20:21] something in ubuntu is messing it up! this time i'm not letting it go! ;p [20:21] vish: ok, that's bad [20:21] * hggdh goes look again [20:22] yofel: absolutely correct... looking at them I can see omega, delta, tau, etc, mixed upper and lower [20:23] * hggdh really has to *look* at pretty pictures, instead of just cursory glancing [20:23] njin: I have no idea what to do. I guess the install log might help locate where things went south. [20:24] also if this is limited to GDM, or also happens on a terminal [20:24] ok thanks to all, i ask to reporter [20:25] someone was talking about firefox showing portugese - BUGabundo I think [20:25] oh, so this has happened to others? [20:25] nigelb: right, he purgeda ll langpacks and it was still portugese [20:26] * hggdh sees his worry index raising [20:26] yofel: yep, somehow I feel this is connected [20:26] I'm trying a french install to see if reproduce [20:32] vish: thank you. Interesting to note that the OP does have chinese installed, but no visible Greek [20:33] also would be nice to know if chinese was knowingly installed [20:33] hggdh: you're welcome! but i think i dint do anything :D [20:34] vish: well, you are trying to install on French :-) [20:34] * nigelb hands hggdh glasses [20:34] hggdh: yofel … [20:34] really. [20:35] vish: njin , not yofel [20:35] * yofel is confused [20:35] even better [20:35] lol [20:35] * hggdh goes to clean -- REALLY clean -- his glasses [20:35] * penguin42 someone should repackage Ubuntu as a multilingual technical language teaching tool [20:35] haha [20:35] LOL [20:35] yofel: i thought hggdh confused me for you.. :) [20:35] best quote of the day! [20:36] penguin42: +1 :D [20:37] oooohhhh [20:37] NOW I caan see! [20:37] I think [20:38] whats 3^3? [20:39] 27 [20:39] indeed, you can :) :p [20:39] or, more strictly, it is a symbol '3' followed by a symbol '^', followed by a symbol '3' [20:41] heh [21:59] What package should I file against for a bug where the wireless drivers are not included in the Maverick LiveCD, like they should be? [21:59] (The proprietary Broadcom ones) [22:24] stenten: open against linux. But I doubt they will be there, they are proprietary. There is a package that carries them [22:26] I know. Usually you only need to install b43-fwcutter, but in Maverick you also need to install firmware-b43-installer, which isn't in the LiveCD. [22:27] I already filed it against Ubiquity as Bug 653790; I trust it'll get triaged to the right package by those who know what to do. [22:27] Launchpad bug 653790 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "firmware-b43-installer is not included in the Maverick LiveCD (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/653790 [22:29] does anyone have a blank CD that they can try something with (it won't need to be written) [22:32] penguin42: Sure, I guess. What would you like? [22:33] stenten: put it in, and then right click on an iso in nautilus and do Write To Disc... I get a dialog with it letting me select the media to write to and it says 6.90MB free space; it's a 690MB disk [22:34] or I guess it might be the difference in the size of the ISO and the raw disc capacity or something? [22:37] penguin42: I get 6.9MB free too. I think you're right; I remember it being free space left on the disk. Try writing it and see what happens? [22:37] stenten: Yeh writing at the moment; my feeling is that's a bug [22:38] Probably. At the very least it's confusing and unintuitive. If you file a bug I can confirm it I guess :) [22:38] penguin42: IIRC, known issue, just do not have the bug # [22:38] ah ok [22:42] oh ***** it's just toasted that cd [22:44] I see the same free space stuff, writing the iso worked for me last week [22:45] ok; that one was a dud for me; which is a shame because I've not got many large CD-R media, and the machine I wanted to install I don't think has DVD === yofel_ is now known as yofel