[00:14] hey duanedesign [00:42] Got a test suite for dbus event signals in python, Mwhahaha, now I can take over the world! [00:44] Amendment: this was quite tricky, you should see the includes for the base module: os, sys, threading, subprocess, signal, atexit, gobject, time and logging. heh all the cool kids modules. [00:52] hey doctormo ! [00:53] i started playing around with designing some stuff. [00:54] duanedesign: oh? want to show it to me? [00:54] let me see, i think i have somme here [00:58] doctormo: here is one. http://people.ubuntu.com/~duanedesign/peopleAll-small.jpg [00:59] duanedesign: I like it, I think you need to increase the brightness and contrast between the orange and purple elements, and make the text stronger somehow. [01:00] also, jpeg is a bad format for any design/production, it's lossy compression will give you nasty artifacts with printing and transmition. [01:20] doctormo: /5 [01:20] oops P [02:21] doctormo: your description of JPEG makes me think about Google's new fantastic unique space-saving "we can make files smaller by losing quality" WebP format... ;) [02:21] JanC: It's not that bad! [03:02] http://ubuntu-artists.deviantart.com/gallery/24290476#/d2zsebq [03:11] doctormo: that reminds me, I have to see when Sintel will be ready ;) [03:12] JanC: yesterday [03:12] oh, so I can expect a DVD soon... :-) [03:13] I actually saw a peview at Libre Graphics Meeting [03:13] preview [03:14] hm, I get errors when trying to access their site :P [03:15] so I saw part of it before the official première, including some of the problems they had, errors they made, how they work, etc. [03:16] that was really interesting to see [03:16] I wonder if they will free the recording that was made of that talk now [03:26] JanC: Did the news not reacht he planet? [03:26] I don't read the planet every day ;) [03:27] actually, there are so many news sources in open source that I don't know what to read first anymore ;) [08:40] aloha [08:40] morning [10:13] doctormo: hey, any news on that ip ban ? or is that something i should be resolving at my end? seems like yours is the only site i might not have access to.. :( [10:14] vish: did you wait for like 1 minute? [10:14] heh, but i do read your blog via liferea! ;p [10:14] it took some time to load up [10:14] nigelb: yea, no luck here.. [10:14] ugh [11:58] jussi: Its so beautiful! [11:59] :D [11:59] Interesting suit though [12:00] strangely it reminded me of dracula cartoons :p [12:00] * nigelb runs. Fast. [12:01] jussi: the ones were you both stand on rocks => who chose that setting? [12:02] That made me think like you were in the sky :) [12:11] nigelb: the photographer suggested and we approved. [12:26] jussi: It was a very good idea :) [12:59] morning all [13:00] morning duanedesign [13:11] hiya [13:12] hey :) [13:38] Woo Hoo - it's the weekend :-) [13:38] gosh, its saturday evening already [13:39] nigelb, :-) [13:40] I am acknowledging west coast time today so I get 3 more hours of weekend :-) [13:41] you're on the west coast? [13:41] nope [13:41] that is just the time zone I am executing today with [13:41] but your body probably thinks it is :p [13:41] aah :) [13:47] I would love to do the xkcd 28 hour day thing [13:47] I tried. Painful. [14:35] popey: in UK english its "Open Trash" and "Empty Trash" … [14:35] maybe 'the' british need to many 'the' ;p [14:36] err! in US english [14:36] too... [14:36] * vish sleeps! [14:36] its too early [14:38] yea, just a short nap :D [14:39] hah [15:26] AlanBell: ping, around? [15:27] AlanBell: who runs the bot that publishes the rss feeds from ubuntu-uk planet in the #ubuntu-uk channel? [15:34] daviey I think [15:34] popey would know for sure [15:35] popey: ^^ [15:36] AlanBell: I realized that cia bot for bzr can only do client side, so if you want to do actual server side, you neeed rss feed from launchpad [15:36] planning on writing something for that to use in #pollka :) [16:46] is bug 585940 assigned to the right person? [16:46] Launchpad bug 585940 in ubuntu-website-content "Text reads "not recommended" for 64-bit (affects: 74) (heat: 367)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/585940 [16:49] actually it looks like it is Gerry's thing [16:53] AlanBell / nigelb yes, daviey set it up [18:55] popey: ok! thanks, I'll talk to Daviey :) [20:41] good evening [20:43] hey there sense [20:43] hi duanedesign [20:49] sense: up to anything interesting this evening? [20:50] duanedesign: Not much, I'm recovering from today's hard work in preparation of our move to Dokkum. [20:50] :) [20:53] duanedesign: What about you? [21:25] sense: been doing skthches for a webdte I am going to make [21:25] duanedesign: Is it going good? [21:28] sense: i think so [21:28] good [21:28] sense: i am using a CSS Framework [21:28] duanedesign: How does such a thing work? [21:29] this my first time to use one. I am using the 960 grid system [21:30] * AlanBell would like to burn 960gs and all that use it [21:31] such an insanely bad idea [21:31] fluid is way better [21:32] yup [21:32] AlanBell: why is that [21:32] people who tend to be desingers love 960 [21:32] *I* choose how wide I want my browser [21:32] +1 [21:32] which could be quite narrow, sitting alongside other windows [21:33] AlanBell: No, your browser width is my choice, remember when you sold me that right? [21:33] or it could be the full width of my 2048 wide monitor [21:33] and I could be randomly choosing bigger or smaller text sizes [21:36] I have been picking apart the web team's wordpress theme to fluidise it [21:36] http://beta.ubuntu-uk.org/ [21:37] now fluid, it works fine [21:37] ok, bed time. Later all. [21:37] bye nigelb [21:41] * popey hugs AlanBell [21:42] http://beta.ubuntu-uk.org/2010/09/29/announcing-the-new-ubuntu-uk-org/ same thing with a fixed width right sidebar [21:49] we need to give you the new uupc logo :) [21:49] i dont think we'll put it on the uupc site until next season though [21:49] so probably best to leave it as is for now [21:49] would be lovely to revamp both sites at once :D [21:50] * popey drops a massive hint to AlanBell [21:51] :) [22:05] that is probably something to discuss over beer popey [22:12] yes! [22:14] popey: from nautilus menu File » Create Folder / Create Document is what i have here, what is it in UK english.. ? [22:15] popey: iirc, gnome HIG specifies against excessive use of "the" … i need to find the line.. [22:16] probably written by americans [22:16] hehe! [22:16] pcutler? isnt british? [22:16] oh wait it was Calum, irsh or living in ireland.. [22:17] popey: well if it is "create the document" then its consistent, else it brings in a new inconsistency ;) [22:17] and more bugs \0/ [22:20] hmm [22:21] it would be "create a document" [22:21] and create a folder [22:21] heh yea [22:21] and connect to a server for that matter [23:00] :( vish [23:01] popey: hehe, that was just a joke ;) [23:02] didnt come across that way [23:02] popey: oops! :( [23:02] where is the specific section in that very long document about 'the'? [23:03] searching for the word 'the' isnt fruitful or efficient [23:03] adjectives use [23:04] specifically? [23:04] there is a section about it and mentions to not overuse it.. also » http://library.gnome.org/devel/hig-book/stable/menus.html.en [23:05] yes, I'm trying to find the section you mention, can you quote it? [23:05] so I can find it [23:06] Use adjectives with caution. If an adjective is necessary to differentiate between items, then use adjectives. In all cases, test whether the phrase can stand alone without the adjective. [23:07] http://library.gnome.org/devel/gdp-style-guide/stable/grammar.html.en [23:07] "the" is not an adjective [23:08] * czajkowski is having flash backs to her junior cert English [23:08] grr! [23:08] * vish bad at grammar :D [23:10] vish: tis fine, just sometimes as it's not your 1st language you may be too literal [23:11] the rules on the definite article "the" don't appear to apply to this context as it is not at the beginning of the string [23:11] czajkowski: heh, actually i was good at it at one point :) , but lost touch recently :( [23:12] and we should always remember that software does not want to be anthropomorhisised [23:13] well, sometimes they can be adjectives? http://grammar.ccc.commnet.edu/grammar/adjectives.htm [23:16] it really does feel like the grammatical rules of one nation are being used to dictate what other nations/locales/languages do [23:16] which is frustrating [23:16] I think that is wrong [23:17] * AlanBell is cautious of grammar rules found on .edu websites [23:17] * popey blames webster for much of this [23:17] the article isn't part of the adjective [23:18] in the colourful paragraph with the pink and blue they didn't highlight the articles [23:18] gah! articles! [23:19] especially when people outside the UK and who are _not_ US citizens or US educated dictate the policy in the UK! [23:19] * popey says "bah" once more and goes to bed [23:19] From The Oxford Dictionary of American Usage and Styleby Bryan Garner. Copyright 1995 by Bryan A. Garner. Published by Oxford University Press, Inc., www.oup-usa.org, and used with the gracious consent of Oxford University Press. [23:20] so there is a dictionary from Oxford to tell Americans how to get it wrong! [23:22] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adjective interestingly wikipedia talks about articles used as adjectives