[00:14] <doctormo> hey duanedesign
[00:42] <doctormo> Got a test suite for dbus event signals in python, Mwhahaha, now I can take over the world!
[00:44] <doctormo> Amendment: this was quite tricky, you should see the includes for the base module: os, sys, threading, subprocess, signal, atexit, gobject, time and logging. heh all the cool kids modules.
[00:52] <duanedesign> hey doctormo !
[00:53] <duanedesign> i started playing around with designing some stuff.
[00:54] <doctormo> duanedesign: oh? want to show it to me?
[00:54] <duanedesign> let me see, i think i have somme here
[00:58] <duanedesign> doctormo: here is one. http://people.ubuntu.com/~duanedesign/peopleAll-small.jpg
[00:59] <doctormo> duanedesign: I like it, I think you need to increase the brightness and contrast between the orange and purple elements, and make the text stronger somehow.
[01:00] <doctormo> also, jpeg is a bad format for any design/production, it's lossy compression will give you nasty artifacts with printing and transmition.
[01:20] <duanedesign> doctormo: /5
[01:20] <duanedesign> oops P
[02:21] <JanC> doctormo: your description of JPEG makes me think about Google's new fantastic unique space-saving "we can make files smaller by losing quality" WebP format...  ;)
[02:21] <doctormo> JanC: It's not that bad!
[03:02] <doctormo> http://ubuntu-artists.deviantart.com/gallery/24290476#/d2zsebq
[03:11] <JanC> doctormo: that reminds me, I have to see when Sintel will be ready  ;)
[03:12] <doctormo> JanC: yesterday
[03:12] <JanC> oh, so I can expect a DVD soon...  :-)
[03:13] <JanC> I actually saw a peview at Libre Graphics Meeting
[03:13] <JanC> preview
[03:14] <JanC> hm, I get errors when trying to access their site  :P
[03:15] <JanC> so I saw part of it before the official première, including some of the problems they had, errors they made, how they work, etc.
[03:16] <JanC> that was really interesting to see
[03:16] <JanC> I wonder if they will free the recording that was made of that talk now
[03:26] <doctormo> JanC: Did the news not reacht he planet?
[03:26] <JanC> I don't read the planet every day  ;)
[03:27] <JanC> actually, there are so many news sources in open source that I don't know what to read first anymore  ;)
[08:40] <czajkowski> aloha
[08:40] <nigelb> morning
[10:13] <vish> doctormo: hey, any news on that ip ban ? or is that something i should be resolving at my end? seems like yours is the only site i might not have access to.. :(
[10:14] <nigelb> vish: did you wait for like 1 minute?
[10:14] <vish> heh, but i do read your blog via liferea! ;p
[10:14] <nigelb> it took some time to load up
[10:14] <vish> nigelb: yea, no luck here..
[10:14] <nigelb> ugh
[11:58] <nigelb> jussi: Its so beautiful!
[11:59] <jussi> :D
[11:59] <nigelb> Interesting suit though
[12:00] <nigelb> strangely it reminded me of dracula cartoons :p
[12:00]  * nigelb runs.  Fast.
[12:01] <nigelb> jussi: the ones were you both stand on rocks => who chose that setting?
[12:02] <nigelb> That made me think like you were in the sky :)
[12:11] <jussi> nigelb: the photographer suggested and we approved.
[12:26] <nigelb> jussi: It was a very good idea :)
[12:59] <duanedesign> morning all
[13:00] <nigelb> morning duanedesign
[13:11] <Pendulum> hiya
[13:12] <nigelb> hey :)
[13:38] <akgraner> Woo Hoo - it's the weekend :-)
[13:38] <nigelb> gosh, its saturday evening already
[13:39] <akgraner> nigelb, :-)
[13:40] <akgraner> I am acknowledging west coast time today so I get 3 more hours of weekend :-)
[13:41] <nigelb> you're on the west coast?
[13:41] <akgraner> nope
[13:41] <akgraner> that is just the time zone I am executing today with
[13:41] <nigelb> but your body probably thinks it is :p
[13:41] <nigelb> aah :)
[13:47] <AlanBell> I would love to do the xkcd 28 hour day thing
[13:47] <nigelb> I tried.  Painful.
[14:35] <vish> popey: in UK english its "Open Trash" and "Empty Trash" …
[14:35] <vish> maybe 'the' british need to many 'the'  ;p
[14:36] <vish> err! in US english
[14:36] <vish> too...
[14:36]  * vish sleeps!
[14:36] <nigelb> its too early
[14:38] <vish> yea, just a short nap :D
[14:39] <nigelb> hah
[15:26] <nigelb> AlanBell: ping, around?
[15:27] <nigelb> AlanBell: who runs the bot that publishes the rss feeds from ubuntu-uk planet in the #ubuntu-uk channel?
[15:34] <AlanBell> daviey I think
[15:34] <AlanBell> popey would know for sure
[15:35] <nigelb> popey: ^^
[15:36] <nigelb> AlanBell: I realized that cia bot for bzr can only do client side, so if you want to do actual server side, you neeed rss feed from launchpad
[15:36] <nigelb> planning on writing something for that to use in #pollka :)
[16:46] <AlanBell> is bug 585940 assigned to the right person?
[16:46] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 585940 in ubuntu-website-content "Text reads "not recommended" for 64-bit (affects: 74) (heat: 367)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/585940
[16:49] <AlanBell> actually it looks like it is Gerry's thing
[16:53] <popey> AlanBell / nigelb yes, daviey set it up
[18:55] <nigelb> popey: ok! thanks, I'll talk to Daviey :)
[20:41] <sense> good evening
[20:43] <duanedesign> hey there sense
[20:43] <sense> hi duanedesign
[20:49] <duanedesign> sense: up to anything interesting this evening?
[20:50] <sense> duanedesign: Not much, I'm recovering from today's hard work in preparation of our move to Dokkum.
[20:50] <sense> :)
[20:53] <sense> duanedesign: What about you?
[21:25] <duanedesign> sense: been doing skthches for a webdte I am going to make
[21:25] <sense> duanedesign: Is it going good?
[21:28] <duanedesign> sense: i think so
[21:28] <sense> good
[21:28] <duanedesign> sense: i am using a CSS Framework
[21:28] <sense> duanedesign: How does such a thing work?
[21:29] <duanedesign> this my first time to use one. I am using the 960 grid system
[21:30]  * AlanBell would like to burn 960gs and all that use it
[21:31] <AlanBell> such an insanely bad idea
[21:31] <nigelb> fluid is way better
[21:32] <AlanBell> yup
[21:32] <duanedesign> AlanBell: why is that
[21:32] <nigelb> people who tend to be desingers love 960
[21:32] <AlanBell> *I* choose how wide I want my browser
[21:32] <nigelb> +1
[21:32] <AlanBell> which could be quite narrow, sitting alongside other windows
[21:33] <doctormo> AlanBell: No, your browser width is my choice, remember when you sold me that right?
[21:33] <AlanBell> or it could be the full width of my 2048 wide monitor
[21:33] <AlanBell> and I could be randomly choosing bigger or smaller text sizes
[21:36] <AlanBell> I have been picking apart the web team's wordpress theme to fluidise it
[21:36] <AlanBell> http://beta.ubuntu-uk.org/
[21:37] <AlanBell> now fluid, it works fine
[21:37] <nigelb> ok, bed time.  Later all.
[21:37] <AlanBell> bye nigelb
[21:41]  * popey hugs AlanBell 
[21:42] <AlanBell> http://beta.ubuntu-uk.org/2010/09/29/announcing-the-new-ubuntu-uk-org/ same thing with a fixed width right sidebar
[21:49] <popey> we need to give you the new uupc logo :)
[21:49] <popey> i dont think we'll put it on the uupc site until next season though
[21:49] <popey> so probably best to leave it as is for now
[21:49] <popey> would be lovely to revamp both sites at once :D
[21:50]  * popey drops a massive hint to AlanBell 
[21:51] <AlanBell> :)
[22:05] <AlanBell> that is probably something to discuss over beer popey
[22:12] <popey> yes!
[22:14] <vish> popey: from nautilus menu File » Create Folder / Create Document is what i have here,  what is it in UK english..  ?
[22:15] <vish> popey: iirc, gnome HIG specifies against excessive use of "the" … i need to find the line..
[22:16] <popey> probably written by americans
[22:16] <vish> hehe!
[22:16] <vish> pcutler? isnt british?
[22:16] <vish> oh wait it was Calum, irsh or living in ireland..
[22:17] <vish> popey: well if it is "create the document" then its consistent, else it brings in a new inconsistency ;)
[22:17] <vish> and more bugs \0/
[22:20] <popey> hmm
[22:21] <AlanBell> it would be "create a document"
[22:21] <AlanBell> and create a folder
[22:21] <vish> heh yea
[22:21] <AlanBell> and connect to a server for that matter
[23:00] <popey> :( vish
[23:01] <vish> popey: hehe, that was just a joke ;)
[23:02] <popey> didnt come across that way
[23:02] <vish> popey: oops! :(
[23:02] <popey> where is the specific section in that very long document about 'the'?
[23:03] <popey> searching for the word 'the' isnt fruitful or efficient
[23:03] <vish> adjectives use
[23:04] <popey> specifically?
[23:04] <vish> there is a section about it and mentions to not overuse it.. also » http://library.gnome.org/devel/hig-book/stable/menus.html.en
[23:05] <popey> yes, I'm trying to find the section you mention, can you quote it?
[23:05] <popey> so I can find it
[23:06] <vish> Use adjectives with caution. If an adjective is necessary to differentiate between items, then use adjectives. In all cases, test whether the phrase can stand alone without the adjective.
[23:07] <AlanBell> http://library.gnome.org/devel/gdp-style-guide/stable/grammar.html.en
[23:07] <AlanBell> "the" is not an adjective
[23:08]  * czajkowski is having flash backs to her junior cert English 
[23:08] <vish> grr!
[23:08]  * vish bad at grammar :D
[23:10] <czajkowski> vish: tis fine, just sometimes as it's not your 1st language you may be too literal
[23:11] <AlanBell> the rules on the definite article "the" don't appear to apply to this context as it is not at the beginning of the string
[23:11] <vish> czajkowski: heh, actually i was good at it at one point :) , but lost touch recently :(
[23:12] <AlanBell> and we should always remember that software does not want to be anthropomorhisised
[23:13] <vish> well, sometimes they can be adjectives? http://grammar.ccc.commnet.edu/grammar/adjectives.htm
[23:16] <popey> it really does feel like the grammatical rules of one nation are being used to dictate what other nations/locales/languages do
[23:16] <popey> which is frustrating
[23:16] <AlanBell> I think that is wrong
[23:17]  * AlanBell is cautious of grammar rules found on .edu websites
[23:17]  * popey blames webster for much of this
[23:17] <AlanBell> the article isn't part of the adjective
[23:18] <AlanBell> in the colourful paragraph with the pink and blue they didn't highlight the articles
[23:18] <vish> gah! articles!
[23:19] <popey> especially when people outside the UK and who are _not_ US citizens or US educated dictate the policy in the UK!
[23:19]  * popey says "bah" once more and goes to bed
[23:19] <AlanBell> From The Oxford Dictionary of American Usage and Styleby Bryan Garner. Copyright 1995 by Bryan A. Garner. Published by Oxford University Press, Inc., www.oup-usa.org, and used with the gracious consent of Oxford University Press.
[23:20] <AlanBell> so there is a dictionary from Oxford to tell Americans how to get it wrong!
[23:22] <AlanBell> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adjective interestingly wikipedia talks about articles used as adjectives