[05:02] <Muscovy> Well guys.
[05:03] <Muscovy> I think Canonical just changed the font on us.
[05:03] <Muscovy> Know what this means for screenshots?
[05:03] <Muscovy> ...that's right.
[05:03] <Muscovy> Grr.
[11:45] <UndiFineD> ....
[17:13] <Muscovy> Hey guys.
[17:13] <Muscovy> In the next day or two I'll update the screenshot CD with the Maverick rc.
[17:18] <UndiFineD> sounds good Muscovy
[17:18] <UndiFineD> I just came home, bought me another TB
[20:51] <MichealH> Hi I am new :) How can I help?
[20:52] <MichealH> Muscovy: here?
[20:52] <Muscovy> Hello MichealH.
[20:52] <MichealH> Hi :D
[20:52] <MichealH> So... How can I get involved?
[20:53] <Muscovy> Can you code or translate?
[20:53] <MichealH> I can translate to UK english
[20:53] <MichealH> (Not US hehe)
[20:53] <Muscovy> Writing, editing, and screenshots don't really have requirements to them.
[20:53] <MichealH> I am learning code
[20:53] <MichealH> Whats it written in?
[20:53] <Muscovy> We're using Python.
[20:53] <MichealH> Good :)
[20:54] <MichealH> Im learning that
[20:54] <Muscovy> MadnessRed is our head coder, he knows more than i do.
[20:54] <Muscovy> I know "basic" Python.
[20:54] <MichealH> And doing it is more learning for me
[20:54] <MichealH> I learn better DOING it rather that sitting and watching!
[20:54] <MichealH> :)
[20:54] <MichealH> Anyway... Im gonna get to work!
[20:55] <MichealH> Where can I find the source?
[20:55] <Muscovy> See http://ubuntutour.org/contribute/branch/
[20:55] <Muscovy> That explains how to get the code.
[20:55] <Muscovy> Most of the instructions are setup things.
[20:55] <MichealH> Yeah
[20:56] <MichealH> Im gonna restart... brb
[20:59] <MichealH> back
[20:59] <MichealH> :)
[21:00] <MichealH> So I can add and subtract things to the app and stuff?
[21:00] <MichealH> cool
[21:00] <Muscovy> Yeah.
[21:00] <Muscovy> Try not to go to long without pushing changes though.
[21:00] <Muscovy> If two people edit the same thing at the same time, we need to manually combine the two.
[21:01] <MichealH> Okay
[21:01] <MichealH> I understand how problematic that would be
[21:01] <UndiFineD> helllo MichealH
[21:01] <Muscovy> It;s not that problematic, but we try to avoid it.
[21:01] <MichealH> Muscovy: Okies
[21:01] <MichealH> UndiFineD: Hullo
[21:02] <UndiFineD> another -uk regular
[21:02] <MichealH> Yes :D
[21:02] <MichealH> Good thing or bad? ;)
[21:03] <UndiFineD> guess that's a good thing ;)
[21:04] <UndiFineD> I am going to reboot in a bit, to attach me newly bought 1TB disc
[21:04] <MichealH> OOOhhh
[21:04]  * MichealH is jealous
[21:04] <UndiFineD> I wanted a soundblaster card, but I had to order it
[21:04] <MichealH> Oh
[21:04] <UndiFineD> now I still cant watch a movie
[21:05] <MichealH> :(
[21:05] <UndiFineD> ah well, slowly getting there
[21:05] <MichealH> I got it back :)
[21:06] <UndiFineD> who needs windows
[21:06] <MichealH> irssi?
[21:06] <MichealH> Uhh
[21:06] <MichealH> I lost my Ubuntu?
[21:06] <MichealH> lol
[21:06] <UndiFineD> cdimage.ubuntu.com
[21:06] <MichealH> ;)
[21:08] <MichealH> Its now detting the latest rev :D :D :D
 In the next day or two I'll update the screenshot CD with the Maverick rc.
[21:08] <MichealH> *getting
[21:08] <UndiFineD> can't wait
[21:10] <MichealH> Thats easier :)
[21:10] <MichealH> Its now win 10
[21:14] <UndiFineD> MichealH, do you have the sources already ?
[21:14] <MichealH> So I look in the TODO folder?
[21:14] <UndiFineD> no, that's my doing
[21:14] <MichealH> Okay?
[21:14] <MichealH> I have the sources
[21:14] <UndiFineD> it is a complete copy of the text from the Help and Support program
[21:15] <MichealH> Okay
[21:15] <MichealH> Everything in it?
[21:15] <UndiFineD> well, there is plenty todo
[21:15] <MichealH> UndiFineD: I could do 5 things this week probably
[21:15] <UndiFineD> you can looks at the links in the topic
[21:15] <MichealH> I have lots of spare time on my hands
[21:16] <UndiFineD> can you'll see. furthermore I think I will add my evaluation document of last week to a docs folder
[21:19] <UndiFineD> done at rev 243
[21:19] <MichealH> :O
[21:19] <MichealH> 243?
[21:20] <MichealH> UndiFineD: I can do all the Software management stuff
[21:21] <MichealH> Or is that done?
[21:21] <UndiFineD> read it, and if you think there is stuff todo, go ahead
[21:21] <MichealH> Okay
[21:21] <MichealH> :)
[21:21] <MichealH> Im going by the wiki here
[21:22] <UndiFineD> I think there is more to it, as I did copy the help and support
[21:22] <UndiFineD> and those texts have been approved, which is why i copied them
[21:32] <MichealH> It looks good alredy with some minor editing...
[21:33] <MichealH> I have also noticed some page headers are a bit tangy... fixing...
[21:33] <MichealH> UndiFineD: ^^
[21:35] <Muscovy> MichealH: Some of the pages didn't use the <h2> tags, and manually use the old colour instead.
[21:35] <UndiFineD> yeah, general page layout goes like this atm: <h1/2></h1/2><div><screenshot src=""></screenshot></div>
[21:36] <MichealH> Yup
[21:36] <MichealH> The tangy ones used div instead of <h1/2>
[21:36] <MichealH> So I fixed
[21:37] <UndiFineD> Muscovy, is <screenshot src="" /> ok now ?
[21:37] <UndiFineD> without a </screenshot>
[21:37] <Muscovy> I don't know.
[21:37] <MichealH> UndiFineD: It should be fine
[21:38] <MichealH> Can I test it?
[21:38] <Muscovy> Oh course.
[21:38] <MichealH> Doesnt work
[21:38] <UndiFineD> yes, the have proving grounds in ./tests/
[21:51] <UndiFineD> I also think we need to splice /en/ into /en_US/ and /en_GB/ at least
[21:51] <MichealH> greed
[21:51] <MichealH> *Agreed
[21:51]  * MichealH splits
[21:51] <UndiFineD> especially on the current bin issue
[21:52] <MichealH> Yeah
[21:52] <MichealH> I was thinking that too
[21:52] <UndiFineD> which is funny read for a foreigner
[21:52] <MichealH> Maybe we should have a "Please select your language" at the startup?
[21:53] <UndiFineD> no, the language is based upon the gnome language
[21:53] <MichealH> Oh
[21:53] <UndiFineD> LANG=nl_NL && python ubuntu-tour.py
[21:53] <MichealH> Well then... moving on...
[21:53] <MichealH> ;)
[21:53] <UndiFineD> we hope to have it in the installation disc
[21:54] <UndiFineD> as a improvement upon the current barely maintained help and support
[21:54] <UndiFineD> and during installation the language is chosen already, and others can be aquired lateron
[21:56] <MichealH> Okay
[22:01] <MichealH> What is the new name for the Trash icon now?
[22:01] <Muscovy> I'm not sure.
[22:01]  * MichealH looks at bug report
[22:04] <MichealH> Found it!
[22:06] <MichealH> The en_GB doesnt work
[22:07] <MichealH> I get "Nothing written yet"
[22:07] <MichealH> UndiFineD: ^^
[22:07] <Muscovy> Where are the en_GB files?
[22:07] <MichealH> I made them
[22:07] <MichealH> I split en_GB and _US
[22:07] <Muscovy> But which directory are they in, I mean.
[22:08] <MichealH> about-ubuntu/
[22:08] <MichealH> Imade them
[22:09] <MichealH> I renamed on then copied and ren amed other
[22:09] <Muscovy> Maybe try pushing, so I can take a look.
[22:10] <MichealH> Can I post the output of lsing the dir?
[22:10] <Muscovy> Sure.
[22:10] <MichealH> michealh@michealh-laptop:~/ubuntu-tour/about-ubuntu$ ls
[22:11] <MichealH> de_DE  en_GB  en_US  es  hu  images  it  ml  nl_NL  pl  pt_BR
[22:11] <MichealH> michealh@michealh-laptop:~/ubuntu-tour/about-ubuntu$
[22:11] <Muscovy> Hmm.
[22:11] <MichealH> Look here ^^^^^  ^^^^^
[22:11] <MichealH> I fail
[22:11] <MichealH> But still
[22:11] <Muscovy> I'm not sure what's going on.
[22:12] <MichealH> I will push and leave it to you
[22:12] <Muscovy> Sure.
[22:12] <UndiFineD> which how it should be
[22:12] <MichealH> I need to goto sleep!
[22:12] <MichealH> UndiFineD: Can I push it?
[22:12] <MichealH> Like bzr push
[22:12] <MichealH> ;)
[22:12] <UndiFineD> I think so
[22:12] <Muscovy> Yep.
[22:13] <MichealH> Do I need to push from the ubuntu-tour directory or the directory above?
[22:13] <MichealH> Do I need to pish from where i branched in other words
[22:13] <Muscovy> The ubuntu tour dir.
[22:13] <MichealH> Okay, Dont kill me If i get it wrong (my first push :D
[22:13] <UndiFineD> bzr pull && bzr add && bzr commit -m "message here" && bzr push lp:ubuntu-tour
[22:14] <MichealH> Huh?
[22:14] <UndiFineD> cli one-liner
[22:15] <UndiFineD> MichealH, we should have a meeting tomorrow, feel free to drop in
[22:16] <Muscovy> UndiFineD: do you think you could throw out a team email?
[22:16] <UndiFineD> I can
[22:16] <UndiFineD> what should it say ?
[22:17] <UndiFineD> exact time ?
[22:17] <Muscovy> Specify the time, and link to the pad.
[22:17] <Muscovy> Probably.
[22:17] <UndiFineD> ok, will do that
[22:17] <MichealH> michealh@michealh-laptop:~/ubuntu-tour$ bzr push lp:ubuntu-tourbzr: ERROR: Working tree "/home/michealh/ubuntu-tour/" has uncommitted changes (See bzr status). Use --no-strict to force the push.
[22:17] <MichealH> michealh@michealh-laptop:~/ubuntu-tour$
[22:17] <Muscovy> Use the time with the most cotes, or maybe 1/2 an hour before, to give MadnessRed more time.
[22:17] <MichealH> what do I do?
[22:17] <MichealH> Uhh
[22:17] <Muscovy> Since I rmeember the best time is his last available slot.
[22:18] <Muscovy> MichealH: Run this while command:
[22:18] <Muscovy> bzr pull && bzr add && bzr commit -m "message here" && bzr push lp:ubuntu-tour
[22:18] <MichealH> I gtg
[22:18] <MichealH> Sorry I couldnt push
[22:18] <Muscovy> whole*
[22:18] <MichealH> I really need to go now
[22:18] <Muscovy> Ok.
[22:18] <UndiFineD> MichealH, sleep well
[22:21]  * UndiFineD needs more coffee
[22:52] <UndiFineD> Muscovy, mial sent
[22:55] <Muscovy> Thanks. :D
[22:58] <UndiFineD> going to reboot now, to attach my new harddisk
[22:58] <UndiFineD> brb
[23:02] <UndiFineD> :)
[23:06] <Muscovy> Hmm.
[23:07] <Muscovy> I wonder if we should make a blog for the tour.
[23:07] <UndiFineD> is that needed ?
[23:07] <UndiFineD> and what would we say
[23:07] <Muscovy> I don't know.
[23:07] <UndiFineD> other than, hey, here is a new release
[23:18] <UndiFineD> if someone wants to do that I am ok with it
[23:18] <UndiFineD> I just do not really see the point
[23:19] <Muscovy> I was tossing the idea around, I myself can't envision a use for it.
[23:19] <UndiFineD> well, we could add it to the list of tomorrow
[23:22] <Muscovy> Sure.