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daftykinsubuntu_: back it up to one of the others first?00:00
st__Orkibo, you don;t have now00:00
daftykinsor better yet an external drive00:00
pankaj_sharmaits better to make ghost image of your drive00:00
demonsporkI am trying to use a locally mounted .iso image as an extra apt repository, how can I add this in?00:00
ubuntu_daftykins, st__, I have an external hard drive which I could theoretically use for backups. Would I just need to back up the Ubuntu partition? If so, how? Also, can I non-destructively resize my Lucid partition?00:01
daftykinsubuntu_: well what do you really have on it of any value?00:01
st__ubuntu_, you should, but i know nothing of macs partitions.00:01
valadareshow i configure 3g internet in Ubuntu00:02
valadares?00:02
ubuntu_daftykins, I have an apache web server that I actively use, a samba server, lots of stuff in ~, and lots of applications. It has been and will continue to be my main work parition.00:02
ubuntu_daftykins, Losing data is not an option.00:02
ActionParsnip!3g00:03
st__ubuntu_, just sudo tar it to file on external hd00:03
daftykinsubuntu_: technically, as ubuntu is a Linux, you could tar the entire root and back it up, then if things go wrong, do a clean install to the new lower partition size, then restore from the tar00:03
donvitomanwich one is the best video chat client like windows messenger?00:03
ubuntu_st__, What should a Mac partition have to do with resizing an Ubuntu parition?00:03
ActionParsnipvaladares: http://www.geekology.co.za/blog/2009/05/configuring-vodafone-3g-modem-on-ubuntu-linux-904-jaunty-jackalope/00:03
OrkiboIt's uninstalled. Thanks st__, appreciate it :)00:04
ActionParsnipdonvitoman: amsn00:04
st__ubuntu_, mac-style partition table i mean00:04
cityLightspls help me chroot to from livecd to sda600:04
ActionParsnip!chroot00:04
ubottuA chroot is used to make programs believe that the directory they are running in is really the root directory. It can be used to stop programs accessing files outside of that directory, or for compiling 32bit applications in a 64bit environment - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicChroot00:04
ubuntu_daftykins, Okay, how exactly would I go about restoring from the tar?00:04
demonsporkubuntu_, the mac uses a different type of MBR on the disk, so the way the partitions are marked is different00:04
daftykinscityLights: is it a single partition install?00:04
cityLightsYES00:04
demonsporkah, he already answered00:04
ubuntu_demonspork, st__, and you're saying that there's the potential for borking my system, correct?00:04
daftykinsubuntu_: you'll need to backup from livecd too, i'd read into the tar manual page00:04
daftykinsthere's always the potential for borking when resizing partitions :)00:05
unknown.00:05
cityLightsI get chroot: cannot run command '/bin/bash' : Exec format error00:05
st__cityLights, mismatched architetctures00:05
daftykinscityLights: what are you typing?00:05
unknownhello00:05
ubuntu_daftykins, Understood, I am actually in the liveCD right now (I don't plan on doing anything though). I can tar the Lucid partition just fine, but how exactly do I restore the new system?00:06
cityLightshmm 64 bit issue00:06
demonspork!hello | unknown00:06
cityLightslet me see00:06
demonspork!hi | unknown00:06
demonsporkwhatt00:06
unknownhi demon00:06
demonsporkwhen did the hello feature get removed from ubottu00:06
demonspork:(00:06
rwwdemonspork: because people were overusing it00:06
ubuntu_!botsnack00:06
ubottuYum! Err, I mean, APT!00:06
valadaresActionParsnip:it's for claro 3g....works?00:06
ActionParsnip!hi | demonspork00:06
ThinkWorkHow do I get Xchat to show the people in the current channel?00:06
demonspork:(00:06
daftykinsubuntu_: nuke the partition, format it as EXT3 or 4, extract the tar archive back to it, then fix GRUB2 (assuming it's a GRUB2 setup)00:06
demonsporkThinkWork, by showing the userlist00:07
ActionParsnipvaladares: if the device is seen as a usb storage currently then yes00:07
rwwnot hard to just say hi to people by hand. throwing factoids at them was impolite, in my opinion00:07
ubuntu_daftykins, Okay. Now that I think about this, the trouble of making functional and reliable backups for three different OSs is a little more trouble than it's worth. Thanks for your help though. Oh, and is Lucid Grub2?00:07
sorush20hi00:08
daftykinsubuntu_: it is indeed!00:08
ActionParsnipubuntu_: depends how valuable your data is ;)00:08
ubuntu_!hello | sorush2000:08
st__ubuntu_, yes, but I used simple grub just fine00:08
ubuntu_worth a shot00:08
DrupalJimjust transfered a site to my servr. now i'm getting this in my apache logs and a white screen of death.  Trying to get property of non-object in theme.inc00:08
sorush20just wanted to find out what is the recommened ftp server to install on ubuntu.00:08
ownergnome00:08
ThinkWorkdemonspork, I dont see any areas in preferences or dropdown lists that allows me to "show userlist"00:08
BadElvishi, i first installed win7 on my hard disk and now installed ubuntu on another harddisk. how can i configure grub to let me choose between those two?00:08
daftykinsubuntu_: personally, i'd just get another disk ;)00:08
ownerback00:08
ubuntu_ActionParsnip, Well, I would not be a happy camper if the paritions exploded :)00:08
daftykins!grub2 | BadElvis00:08
ubottuBadElvis: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since Ubuntu 9.10.  For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub200:08
ActionParsnip!ftpd | sorush2000:09
ubottusorush20: FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd, MuddleFTPd, wzdftpd - Graphical front-ends: PureAdmin, GProftpd (for GNOME), KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP00:09
st__DrupalJim, server support is that way ---------------->00:09
daftykinsBadElvis: see ubottu's GRUB2 info00:09
ownernow i see my HDD i have make an partition00:09
ubuntu_daftykins, Wait.. another disk? I have an external hard drive if that's what you mean.00:09
ActionParsnipsorush20: there is norecommended app for any purpose00:09
daftykinsubuntu_: nah internal second ;)00:09
demonsporkThinkWork, Settings>Preferences>Interface>User list> Show user list at:00:09
sorush20ActionParsnip: I'm using joomla installation I need to know.00:09
demonsporkThinkWork, if it is already set, just change where it is set and that should make it pop back into place00:09
st__sorush20, server discussion goes in #ubuntu-server00:10
ubuntu_daftykins, I wish. This is Apple hardware we're talking about.. in order to do that I need a 20 pound suction cup, plyers, a wrench, and a signed autograph of steve jobs :)00:10
ActionParsnipsorush20: choose one based on what you need, ftp is very unsecure, sftp is much more secure. If its just for LAN access thn ftp is fine00:10
ThinkWorkI dont have a settings menu... I have preferences under the edit menu, but that has no interface section...00:10
daftykinsubuntu_: lol ouch, one of those - which type is it may i ask?00:10
BadElvis!GRUB200:10
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since Ubuntu 9.10.  For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub200:10
st__ThinkWork, what are you talking about?00:11
ActionParsnipsorush20: there is no recommended mail app, web browser, chat client, anything. You are using an OS which is built on freedom and choice yet you still ask complete strangers what you should use. Where's your freedom? Smacks of microsoft a bit doesn't it?00:11
ubuntu_daftykins, It is a 2008 iMac 24''. I got it for my Bar Mitzvah at a time when I was on a little love fest with Apple.. then I got into Linux.. :)00:11
ThinkWorkResponding to demonspork00:11
ThinkWorkHow do I get Xchat to show the people in the current channel?00:11
ThinkWork<demonspork> ThinkWork, Settings>Preferences>Interface>User list> Show user list at:00:12
ActionParsnipThinkWork: i thought that was default....00:12
daftykinsubuntu_: hehe, has your Ubuntu use on it been plain sailing, compatibility wise etc? i think the community lacks some decent feedback on mac hardware use00:12
tigertv69anybody know if u can resume Xsesions with screen?00:12
ubuntu_ActionParsnip, ThinkWork, I think it is the default in xchat, but not xchat-gnome.00:12
ThinkWorkI dont have a userlist window, I have a thing to click to show users, but it doesnt stay up00:12
ThinkWorkYes I am using Xchat-Gnome00:12
solidus-riverim trying ot set up passenger on ubuntu00:12
st__ThinkWork, remove that pos00:13
solidus-riverbut if i install it via gem i cant find the executables00:13
ActionParsnipubuntu_: i see, I use pidgin personally00:13
ThinkWorkI blame Ubuntu00:13
st__ThinkWork, uncircumcised xchat is much better00:13
ThinkWorklol00:13
blakkheimi like irssi00:13
donvito2any music player like winamp00:14
donvito2?00:14
donvito2for ubuntu maverick00:14
donvito2?00:14
FloodBot2donvito2: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.00:14
ActionParsnip!10.10 | donvito200:14
ubottudonvito2: Maverick Meerkat is the codename for Ubuntu 10.10, due October 10, 2010 - Maverick Release Candidate at http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/1010 , discussion and support in #ubuntu+100:14
st__donvito2, audacity200:14
rww!winamp00:14
ubottuwinamp is a windows music player. On Ubuntu you can use audacious as alternative.00:14
donvito2movie player with subtitles00:14
donvito2?00:14
rwwvlc00:14
st__oh damn audacity is fireforge clone00:15
bastidrazordonvito2: vlc or mplayer00:15
ActionParsnipdonvito2: mplayer / vlc00:15
donvito2thx00:15
daftykinsdonvito2: i'm sorry to say nothing comes close in all honesty.00:15
tigertv69anyone?00:15
demonsporkThinkWork, sudo apt-get remove xchat-gnome and then do sudo apt-get install xchat xchat-xsys00:15
demonsporkThinkWork, xchat gnome isn't xchat00:15
daftykinstigertv69: anything in its' man page?00:15
tigertv69doesnt say00:16
tigertv69or specifiy00:16
rwwtigertv69: pretty sure you can't00:16
tigertv69is there anything00:16
tigertv69or anyway you can do that00:16
ubuntu_daftykins, It's an interesting story. I tried a few months after I got the iMac to put the then-current 9.04 on it.. I don't think the thing even booted. (Granted, I couldn't program my way out of a paper bag back then let alone find my away around a linux system). I tried 9.10 and had better luck, and used it for a while, but I stopped because I wasn't capable enough to use it over OS X at the time. A few borks (due to my own experi00:16
ubuntu_mentation) after Lucid, I stuck around wtih it and set up my currnet triple boot. Lucid works MAGICALLY with my iMac. Literally everything works out of the box.. even wireless works on the liveCD (I'm on it right now)!. Interestingly there is this odd rumor on the net and in ##macosx that Linux can't control the Apple SMC => CPU fry. However I and lots of other people use Linux on their Macs daily so I don't know what's up. To be hon00:16
ubuntu_est, the reason for the third partition is primarily to put ArchLinux on; I love it in VirtualBox but it's just not the same as if it were baremetal. So yeah, hardware support is excellent, save a problem with fglrx that is in the Lucid repos and has been fixed for a month via Catalyst on the ATI website.00:16
st__what is the simplest way to get a list of files except several specified names00:16
FloodBot2ubuntu_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.00:16
RJ_F1how can I set up a bot, similar to ubottu, for my channel?00:16
ubuntu_That was quite a mouthful.00:17
st__RJ_F1, chech freenode site00:17
ActionParsnipRJ_F1: http://www.wikihow.com/Set-Up-YourBot-IRC-Bot00:17
ownercan any one tell me how do i low format my hdd from a live linux cd?00:17
tigertv69basically let me give senario: i want to do ftp transfers on my ubuntu server... i have my laptop with mye.. i setup Xming.. and do the X to start the transfers.. working great.. then i need to go out.. i bring my laptop with me.. ... when i come back home i connect back to my server and want the files to still be downloading while i am gone.. so i log back into ssh and then the X app pops...00:17
tigertv69...up or i go back to see its completed its run00:17
demonsporkHow do I use a mounted disk image with a package repo on it? I only have CLI, no gui00:17
st__owner, low format is a myth00:17
ActionParsnipowner: you can echo 0s to the disk to blank it00:17
ownerst__ i need to rebuilt my sectors....cause i have bad sectors on it00:17
ActionParsnipowner: sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda    for example00:18
st__owner, bad sectors are myth too00:18
EimhinI'm just after installing a .deb that I converted from .rpm with alien, but I can't run it. It's shown in synaptic as installed, but when I run "qjoypad" in the terminal I get "Bash: qjoypad: Command not found"00:18
ActionParsnipowner: if it has bad sectors, chuck it, its bad00:18
rww!alien00:18
ubottuRPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous and unsupported)00:18
daftykinsubuntu_: cool :) thanks for that, very interesting00:18
st__it's not 1991, the device electronics takes care of that00:18
ActionParsnipEimhin: extract the deb in your home folder someplace to see what files it makes00:18
st__all good stuff is RPM anyway00:18
Eimhinmkay00:19
tigertv69is what im asking impossible?00:19
ubuntu_daftykins, Yup :) Thanks again for your help, I gotta run -- it's dinner time!00:19
lacrymologycan I get help setting up jack, please?00:19
ownerwhat means chuck?00:19
there__Hello00:19
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ownersudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda i have enter this in terminal, and now my hdd led i on ? is formating or what?00:20
st__!nick00:20
ubottuYour nick is how people know you on IRC. Please don't change your nicknames too often (use /nick newnick), or it creates a lot of confusion. You should also !register your nick with Freenode.00:20
rwwowner: "chuck it" means throw it away00:20
EimhinI get 3 files, "control.tar.gz", "data.tar.gz" and "debian-binary"00:20
blakkheimowner: lol00:20
ActionParsnipEimhin: you can install it using deb via the getdeb ppa00:20
EimhinK I'll try that00:20
st__owner, you're just corrupting it right now, wiping your windows 7 and your data00:20
owneri wont throw away a 250 gb hdd, cause i dont have money for another00:20
ownerst__ is no problem , i just want it to delet all things, and make it clean00:21
ActionParsnipowner: its writing 0s the the disk you named. I hope sda is the disk you want to wipe, i only used sda as an example (as I said)00:21
ownerActionParsnip i just have 1 partition and want it all deleted  :p00:21
ActionParsnipowner: doesn't matter, you still need to set the right disk00:22
ActionParsnipowner: the disk will degrade until your OS simply doesn't boot, if your system can boot USB then you can install to a USB stick or SD card00:22
EimhinActionParsnip, how abouts do I use it00:22
Eimhinthe getdeb ppa that is00:22
owneri dont have an os on my hdd00:23
owneri will instal after this thing finish00:23
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tensorpuddingHow might one export a list of packages installed on the system, for use in restoring from backups?00:23
ActionParsnipEimhin: add the ppa and you can install using software centre etc00:23
Eimhingotcha00:23
rww!clone00:23
ubottuTo replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « aptitude  --display-format '%p' search '?installed!?automatic' > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < my-packages ; sudo aptitude install » - See also !automate00:23
pankaj_sharmaowner: format complete?00:24
ActionParsnipEimhin: http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/ppa/getdeb_games?dist=lucid00:24
ownerActionParnship no, terminal still waits00:24
ownerand led still flash00:24
tensorpuddingrww: grazie!00:24
ActionParsnipowner: yep, its writing '0' from the start of the drive to the end00:25
st__250GB may take several hours00:25
ownerActionParsnip , so this is like a low format? or total format , no?00:25
owneris diferent from Quik format ?00:25
donvito2you know why is stupid ubuntu >\00:26
donvito2?00:26
donvito2because you cant make video calls00:26
knollsubuntu chat?00:26
st__donvito2, ubuntu is low-cost server solution, it's not made for video calls00:26
ActionParsnipowner: the disk will be written zero, it will still be the current format but the data will be destroyed00:26
EimhinActionParsnip, I'm getting more of the same, it says it's installed and then I go to run it, command not found00:26
Eimhinhttp://pastebin.com/zuZKJTrB00:27
jribdonvito2: except you can?00:27
ownerActionParsnip , what about bad sectors? they will be ignored? or isolated?00:27
donvito2st__ ubuntu desktop what does this mean?00:27
EimhinYou can make video calls00:27
ActionParsnipowner: quick fomat only wipes the FAT00:27
blakkheimdonvito2: just because you don't know how to do it doesn't mean it can't be done00:27
ActionParsnipowner: not sure about that dude, bad sectors are failurs on the disk00:28
donvito2canot capture from your camer it says00:28
st__donvito2, that it is intended to leeech some support money from Debian00:28
daveinlvam running Ubuntu 10.04, decided to install KDE to see what it looked like, now I'd like to be able to switch back to Gnome, but the selector on the login screen seems to have disappeared. I want Gnome to be the default manager.. I checked the "Alternatives Configurator" and for x-session-manager it shows /usr/bin/gnome-session but if I log out/back in, I'm still in KDE... Help!00:28
* davidfetter thinks they should have called it the Persistent Hardware Allocation Table00:28
jribst__: what on earth are you talking about?00:28
davidfetterso it'd be PHAT, yo00:28
ownerActionParsnip ok , i think i must wait long time till this finish cause is 250 gb hdd :-S00:28
rwwjrib: nothing sane, as usual00:28
ActionParsnipowner: yep, depends on the drive speed etc too, not just space00:29
ownerActionParsnip, any way i think it will take like 1 hour :p00:29
EimhinI'm getting more of the same, it says it's installed and then I go to run it, command not found00:30
Eimhinhttp://pastebin.com/zuZKJTrB00:30
lacrymologyjack has hung, and kill -s 9 doesn't do the trick00:30
donvito2another client execpt amsn to make video calls with msn ?00:30
lubun2Eimhin, it said 0 installed00:31
krabadordonvito2, emesne00:31
krabadordonvito2, emesene00:31
Eimhinbecause the latest version is already isntalled00:31
donvito2okey thank you00:31
EimhinI had it installed already ActionParsnip told me to add another source and try it again00:32
Shaman__how i can configure a sound setting, my sound card is nvidia mcp6100:32
shinkamuiIm trying to do an install with the default iso, is there a way to install from the console if the live cd portion isn't working and I can only get console graphics?00:32
shinkamuior do I have to download the alternate cd00:33
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donvito2maybe00:34
st__shinkamui, no yo u need alternate00:34
donvito2something is wrong with my webcam , anyway how to install apache?00:35
donvito2!apache00:35
ubottuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)00:35
st__is the lamp issue when it was sending php sources fixed now?00:35
shinkamuist__, thanks, was trying to avoid that, but Ill search for one.  Seems the PPC arch is dead and its not so easy to get a non nightly build for 10.1000:36
Shaman__how configure a sound,  my sound card is nvidia mcp6100:36
A_New_ServerWhat is the file type that Ubuntu uses? Like if I compile a C++ program for Ubuntu and for Windows, it does the same thing but I don't see a file type when I click it in Ubuntu00:36
A_New_ServerLike if I click windows I see executable or .exe00:36
blakkheimA_New_Server: linux does not depend on file extensions, it looks at what the file actually is00:37
st__A_New_Server, usually it's no extension00:37
A_New_ServerSo why do some files, most actually, have extensions? o.O Is that just for the users benefit?00:37
lenswipeheyg uys00:37
blakkheimyes00:37
A_New_ServerAh, thanks.00:38
erUSULA_New_Server: correct00:38
st__A_New_Server, it's faster than file heuristics00:38
Shaman__помоги настроить звук плз, звуковая плата nvidia mcp6100:38
bazhangShaman__, #ubuntu-ru00:38
st__A_New_Server, also file cannot handle complex documents like xml ones or ole storage00:38
erUSULA_New_Server: linux uses magic db to see what a file really is. see « man file » in a terminal00:39
Shaman__i cant go to ubuntu ru, it  write i'm banned, but i never go here00:39
dludldinhi everyone!00:39
st__Shaman__, register a nickname on freenode00:39
st__/nickserver help00:40
dludldinhow do i reinstall a program from scratch?00:40
bazhangst__, its not set to +r00:40
rwwst__: that's not the problem00:40
st__dludldin, sudo aptitude reinstall PACKAGE00:40
rwwShaman__: your ident is set to "root", which is banned from that channel for some reason. Consider changing it.00:40
dludldinst__ : complete removal didn t work. is that a similar way of what you told me to do?00:41
MooshiMuushiHey everyone :)00:41
MooshiMuushiRemove of what?00:42
st__dludldin, yes, remove it from /var/lib/dpkg/status and install again00:42
tymeello world00:43
tymeno sound in ubuntu 10.04...help00:44
tymeno sound in ubuntu 10.04...help!!!!00:45
blakkheimno need to repeat yourself00:45
st__tyme, and your hardware is?00:45
tymecompaq cq6200:46
dludldinst__ : remove it from status? what do you mean?00:46
donvito2how to restart open ssh server00:46
blakkheim /etc/init.d/ssh restart00:47
MooshiMuushiIs there a way to use ad-hoc and infrastructure internet at the same time?00:48
daftykinsMooshiMuushi: two wireless devices00:48
dludldinhow do i reinstall a program from scratch?00:49
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tymeall hope is lost...i am slowly dying inside...help00:50
MooshiMuushidaftykins, Can't we connect to 2 wireless at the same time? Using 1 device?00:50
daftykinsdoubt it00:50
MooshiMuushidaftykins, What about Lan + Wireless at the same time?00:50
daftykinsMooshiMuushi: there's no such thing as ad-hoc on wired? :)00:51
daftykinswhat are you trying to do? :)00:51
dinkyHi folks, having trouble setting up my Apache Webserver using Webmin. Am a complete noob at servers00:51
daftykinsdinky: dedicated box install, VM, ?00:51
blakkheim!webmin > dinky00:51
MooshiMuushidaftykins, Ahaha, nono. Lan (Ethernet cable) and Wireless (Internet).00:51
ubottudinky, please see my private message00:51
MooshiMuushidaftykins, PS3 Media Server.00:51
daftykinsMooshiMuushi: are you trying to share a wireless net connection to a PS3 over a wired connection? 0o00:52
dinkyubottu, not entirely helpful.00:52
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)00:52
dinkyDedicated box install00:52
tymei'm dying???00:53
MooshiMuushidaftykins, Wireless is for the internet for the Laptop :) Lan is for the media server for the PS3.00:53
dinkyI have it set up on a seperate machine as a server, and can browse the machine from it's local ip address, but I only get "It works, no content added"00:53
daftykinsMooshiMuushi: just plug it in and set a static IP on laptop + PS3 then \o/00:53
dinkyHaving a really hard time adding content00:53
donvito2!photoshop00:53
ubottuA comprehensive list of of Windows-equivalent applications in Linux can be found at http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant - Try also joining #ubuntu-bots and asking BestBot00:53
MooshiMuushidaftykins, Doesn't wireless media server cost download/upload usage?00:54
dinkyI have tried setting document root to /var/www and dropping a index.html file, but no change00:54
daftykinsdinky: /var/www/ is the root, so if webmin isn't APT installable, you'd have to put its' files in there to access it from another box00:54
dinkydaftykins, I've done that.00:55
daftykinsso your changes aren't coming up?00:55
dinkyNot at all00:55
daftykinsdinky: checked /etc/apache2/ blah blah... sites-enabled ?00:55
dinkyHave tried setting up another virtual server, no luck00:55
dinkyNo....00:55
dludldinhow do i reinstall a program from scratch?00:55
dinkyI've seen that file... what does it do?00:56
daftykinsdludldin: sudo apt-get reinstall --purge <package>00:56
blakkheim!repeat | dludldin00:56
ubottudludldin: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://ubuntu.stackexchange.com00:56
daftykinsdinky: one sec lemme SSH into my web server00:56
dinkyThanks daftykins00:57
daftykinsdinky: /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default00:57
tymeno sound in ubuntu 10.04 in flash videos...anyone???00:57
dinkydaftykins: will see what my file says00:57
daftykinsdinky: might be worth a...00:57
daftykins!pastebin00:57
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.00:57
uLinuxHow can I reset NVIDIA X Server Settings?00:59
uLinuxCan I delete xorg.conf?00:59
daftykinsuLinux: have you set something you don't want in there?01:00
uLinuxdaftykins: some stuff but to be sure i'd like to reset everything to default01:00
tymeno sound in ubuntu 10.04 in flash videos @aarcane01:01
daftykinsuLinux: see if the relevant thing has been put in xorg.conf01:01
uLinuxdaftykins: I typed 'sudo nvidia-xconfig'01:03
uLinuxand it changed the xorg.conf01:03
sir_tyrionHow can I log out of an x session (gdm session) on commandline01:05
daftykinsuLinux: all that'd do is give you a basic config that uses the nvidia driver. if it's broken something, restore the backup that that created01:05
daftykinssir_tyrion: you could just restart GDM01:05
uLinuxdaftykins: well everything works fine :P01:06
Izinucssir_tyrion: sudo service gdm stop .. after that pidof gdm to see if anthing is remaining..01:06
uLinuxdaftykins: it's just that default xorg.conf was smaller01:06
sir_tyrionThanks, sudo service gdm restart worked01:07
dinkydaftykins: just checked /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default and there's nothing there01:07
daftykinsdinky: literally empty?01:07
Izinucssir_tyrion: yep.. restart is another  as well as stop/start01:07
dinkydaftykins: yup01:07
dinkydaftykins: how do I configure it? There's another file, webmin.(lotsanumbers).conf that seems to be from the virtual server I tried to add01:08
daftykinshmm01:09
daftykinswhat's in that?01:09
dinkyHang on...01:09
dinkydaftykins: <VirtualHost *:*>01:10
dinkyDocumentRoot "/var/www"01:10
dinky<Directory "/var/www">01:10
dinkyallow from all01:10
dinkyOptions +Indexes01:10
FloodBot2dinky: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.01:10
dinky</Directory>01:10
uLinuxbbl01:11
bericp1hey guys... i have a problem01:11
jackyalcinedeveloper chat?01:11
daftykins?01:11
jimlovell777Is there a way to expand the area around a window that's used for resizing? I find it extremely difficult to hit that tiny margin.01:11
tigertv69anoyne knw?01:11
daftykinsjimlovell777: i have the same problem, there've been bugs for ages but no idea personally...01:11
siddhionhey how does one get to their File System folder in Terminal01:11
daftykinssiddhion: cd /01:12
dinkyDaftykins: It's something like this: <VirtualHost *:*>DocumentRoot "/var/www"<Directory "/var/www">allow from allOptions +Indexes</Directory></VirtualHost>01:12
jimlovell777daftykins: I think it's getting worse. It went from hard to seeming twitchy even as of late.01:12
siddhiondaftykins, hey, cd / brings me to my home folder01:12
daftykinsdinky: lol use pastebin.ubuntu.com01:12
SoulShadowor just pastebin.com01:12
daftykinssiddhion: sounds like you're locked in a chroot01:12
tigertv69anyone01:13
tigertv69basically let me give senario: i want to do ftp transfers on my ubuntu server... i have my laptop with mye.. i setup Xming.. and do the X to start the transfers.. working great.. then i need to go out.. i bring my laptop with me.. ... when i come back home i connect back to my server and want the files to still be downloading while i am gone.. so i log back into ssh and then the X app pops...01:13
daftykinssiddhion: type "pwd" then "cd .." then "pwd" again, the path should change01:13
dinkydaftykins: thanks01:13
siddhiondaftykins, pwd says I am in '/' dir. then I do cd .. and pwd again and i still get '/' as my dir01:14
daftykinsah, you are in root then ;)01:14
daftykinssiddhion: so "ls"01:14
daftykinsyou're in the very top of the file system, aka root, aka /01:14
siddhiondaftykins, right but I would like to get to 'File System' folder to get to the 'usr' folder01:15
dinkySorry folks, noob here at xchat, I've just used pastebin, what do I do next?01:15
DualProxyIs there anyway to launch two commands at the same time? I have tried cmd1; cmd2 , but it waits for cmd1 to finish.01:15
siddhiondaftykins, just getting back into Ubunutu and I am quite rusty01:15
tigertv69nybody?01:15
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daftykinsdinky: just paste in the link it gave you01:15
daftykinssiddhion: oh i get you, so "cd /usr"01:16
dinkydaftykins: Thanks. Here's what's in the webmin.conf file: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/504226/01:16
siddhiondaftykins, ahh nice01:16
furryotterI have a newb PHP Question: I'm trying to get a website up that relies heavily on php. The scripts save files to a directory so it has to have write permissions. What permissions do I have on the directories running the scripts?01:17
siddhiondaftykins,  thanks! also do you know of a way I can make it so when I press TAB to autocomplete folder/file name it ignores case-sensativity?01:17
daftykinssiddhion: no sorry, good practice to get used to it :)01:17
daftykinsdinky: hmm, have you tried restarting apache since you installed webmin? i've never used it before to be honest01:17
siddhiondaftykins, ok. thanks01:17
dinkydaftykins: yeah, no luck.01:18
tensorpuddingfurryotter: our telepathy is not powerful enough to glean the permissions of directories on your machine01:18
dinkydaftykins: thanks for trying to help, I'll have a go elsewhere. Cheers.01:18
furryottertensorpudding: lol nice. I mean does the directory have to have the same persmissions as the apache user01:18
daftykinsdinky: no problem, gl! i'd imagine that 'site' isn't enabled properly in the config01:18
daftykinsdoh01:18
tensorpuddingfurryotter: if you're using mod_php I think so01:19
tensorpuddingfurryotter: it just has to be able to have the apache user able to write to it, it doesn't have to be owned by the apache user01:21
furryottertensorpudding: Do I have to enable the php mod in my site?01:21
furryottertensorpudding: the website itself is going to fetch files from another site when they click a button. so I think it's actually apache writing to the directory and not the user himself.01:22
Kurdistanwhy is nvidias closed drivers slower in maverick then lucid?01:23
Spaztic_OneOK, so I've been fighting this for a bit and have made no progress thus far. I am trying to access a winxp machine from my 10.04 laptop, and access the laptop via the winxp machine, as well as share a printer that is located on the windows computer. I had file sharing working fine before, but it is not currently. What do I need to do to get things functioning properly again?01:23
tensorpuddingfurryotter: that's what i mean, the owner of the apache process01:23
tensorpuddingfurryotter: i think that's www-data by default01:23
Kurdistanwhy do I have problem to create bootable usb with maverick but not lucid?01:23
NextopDualProxy:01:24
furryottertensorpudding: you're right! I'm looking at config file and it has user www-data group web01:24
NextopDualProxy: try cmd1 && cmd201:24
furryottertensorpudding: so the directory would have to have permissions for www-data and web to r/w, correct?01:24
Nextopthat hsould run 2 commands at the same time01:24
RyenKurdistan: Why do you want to install Maverick?01:24
DualProxyNextop: Same issue, it waits for an exit of 001:25
KurdistanRyen I tried it out01:25
Kurdistanand installed it on usb stick01:25
KurdistanI have download lucid iso and others01:26
Kurdistanboth with unetbootin and usb-creator on ubuntu01:26
Kurdistanno luck01:26
NextopDualProxy: well you can just run cmd in the background eg: cmd1 &; cmd2 &; (that should run both in the background)01:26
DualProxyNextop: *Solved* (cmd1 &);(cmd2 &)01:26
tensorpuddingfurryotter: yeah01:27
RyenKurdistan: But my question still remains, why do you want to install Maverick. If Lucid works, then you should be using the most current release.01:27
Nextop:p01:27
furryottertensorpudding: thank you01:27
KurdistanRyen I am restless01:27
NextopKurdistan: Maverick/10.10 support in #ubuntu+101:28
KurdistanNextop what?01:28
Ryen!10.10 | Kurdistan01:29
ubottuKurdistan: Maverick Meerkat is the codename for Ubuntu 10.10, due October 10, 2010 - Maverick Release Candidate at http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/1010 , discussion and support in #ubuntu+101:29
KurdistanI know what maverick is01:29
RyenKurdistan: This channel is for Lucid and earlier, if you need help with Maverick, then please goto #ubuntu+101:29
Kurdistanokey01:30
SuperMiguelso i have a mac with two SSD, I have OSX installed using RAID 0, So how can i install ubuntu using mdraid (raid 0) and osx still using raid 0??? (this is a macbook pro)01:30
dludldini tryed to reinstall several times with different methods but somehow ubuntu has data from changes ive made when using the program and it doesn t let program start with original configuration01:31
plovsSuperMiguel why not in parallels?01:32
dludldinis there a way to say.. hello ubuntu you are under an hipnotic power... you never used this program before...?01:33
maltoni have a usb drive that i need to format (right now it is ntfs --or whatever the windows file system is) but ubuntu doesn't recognize it so i can't format it.  how can i get ubuntu to see it?01:33
Geniemount?01:34
IzinucsWhat's available in the repos for document management.. could be local to the pc or web based?01:35
FableflameI have a problem. I decided to open a Chromium window in a second workspace, so I would have one Chromium window in one workspace, and another in workspace 2. However, as soon as I did that, I unchecked the "use system title bar and borders" and after that my top panel and my Docky disappeared. If I mouse over where Docky is supposed to be, I get little tool tips where my applications are supposed to be, and if I click where my Ubuntu01:36
Fableflame menu is supposed to be, I can stll see a drop down menu. How do I get my panels and Docky visible again?01:36
Fableflamesorry for the flood01:36
f00bar80how to neve put system in standby from the command line ? as from the power options it's not working01:36
daftykinsmalton: is it not showing up with "sudo fdisk -l" ?01:36
Braber01can sombody remind me which -eq == op works with numbers in bash?01:36
maltondaftykins: no, i don't see it at least01:37
daftykinsmalton: replug it?01:37
maltondaftykins: it is a new drive i just bought it today.  i just want to format it.01:38
f00bar80i.e how to disable hibernate and standby01:38
maltondaftykins: i just replugged it and it still isn't showing up01:39
chaterzzzzhi01:40
daftykinsmalton: check dmesg ?01:40
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chaterzzzzany tool for install ?01:42
Guest7873nick mark201001:42
f00bar80any commment01:43
maltondaftykins: i think this is the most relevant part (if not let me know and i will pastebin the whole thing)  http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/HCv2HHnJ01:43
Guest7873NICK mark201001:43
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daftykinsmalton: just sounds like talk of an optical drive and a film being put in01:43
maltonoh01:43
daftykinsmalton: if you plug and replug it, it should be right at the end... so "dmesg | tail" would show it01:44
tigertv69hey guys... is there another app equitable toscreen01:44
daftykinss/would/should/01:44
tigertv69but i can use with X apps01:44
mark2010I need help for GRUB with Ubuntu 10.10, just get white screen...01:44
tensorpuddingtigertv69: tmux01:45
tensorpuddingtigertv69: oh, with x apps01:45
tensorpuddingtigertv69: no01:45
tigertv69nothing with X apps01:46
tigertv69?01:46
maltondaftykins: nope, nothing i guess01:46
adrielhi01:46
adrieli new01:46
daftykinsmalton: erk, possibly it's dead? are you trying on front USB ports or motherboard ones? (or is it a lappy?)01:46
maltonlaptop01:46
adrieli am from brasil01:46
kaizenanyone know an ubuntu equivelant of camtasia studio?01:47
daftykins!br | adriel01:47
tensorpudding!br | adriel01:47
ubottuadriel: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigado.01:47
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oemhello?01:47
daftykinshigh five tensorpudding01:47
tensorpudding!hi | oem01:47
daftykins^_^01:47
daftykinshi oem01:47
oemhow you doing?01:47
tensorpuddinghmm, where did !hi go...01:47
daftykinstensorpudding: got removed apparently01:48
maltondaftykins: the last thing it records is: lo: Disabled Privacy Extensions01:48
oemi was in software manager, and thought that this looked cool, so i installed this01:48
malton... and it is a laptop01:48
mark2010is this the room for Ubuntu 10.10 questions?01:48
Ryen!10.10 | mark201001:48
ubottumark2010: Maverick Meerkat is the codename for Ubuntu 10.10, due October 10, 2010 - Maverick Release Candidate at http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/1010 , discussion and support in #ubuntu+101:48
chaterzzzzany idea for this Oct  2 02:48:14 ubuntu kernel: [28052.910056] eth0: auto-negotiating.. ??01:48
daftykinsmalton: hmm is the device possibly dead?01:48
maltondaftykins: i guess it could be.  i just bought it today so i would like to think not but who knows01:49
daftykinsmalton: worked on windows though yeah?01:50
maltonunfortunately (in this situation) no one is running windows so i can't see how it would react if launched in its native environment01:50
daftykinsah01:50
KayAteChefthe 'script' in step 2 of this installation guide is a binary and doesn't execute even thought I gave it +x https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware/Server01:50
daftykinsmalton: sorry i can't be of any better help, i'd definitely try on a windows PC next01:50
maltondaftykins: ok... i will see if i can hunt one down. thanks for the help.01:51
daftykinsKayAteChef: did you extract first? it's a .tar.gz01:51
chaterzzzzhow can I update the kernel ? plx01:51
daftykinschaterzzzz: sudo apt-get install linux01:51
KayAteChefI didn't realise the script was a tar.gz01:51
KayAteChefthe vmware release is01:52
furryotterwhere can I find apache logs?01:52
KayAteChefbut the script is meantt o be .sh01:52
chaterzzzzdaftykins, I have linux installed01:52
daftykinsfurryotter: /var/log/apache201:52
furryotterthank you01:52
daftykinsKayAteChef: there's a .sh inside it01:52
chaterzzzzubu, but i need know if I need update something more manualy01:52
Spaztic_OneOK, so I've been fighting this for a bit and have made no progress thus far. I am trying to access a winxp machine from my 10.04 laptop, and access the laptop via the winxp machine, as well as share a printer that is located on the windows computer. I had file sharing working fine before, but it is not currently. What do I need to do to get things functioning properly again?01:53
chaterzzzzfurryotter, adm > succes visor??01:53
KayAteChefI have VMware-server-2.0.2-203138.i386.tar.gz AND  vmware-server-2.0.x-kernel-2.6.3x-install.sh in the same directory01:53
KayAteChefone is meant to be a  script and the other is the source tarball I assume01:54
GneaKayAteChef: correct, in the reverse order.01:55
KayAteChefwell yeah01:55
daftykinschaterzzzz: yeah that updates the package :)01:55
Gnea?01:56
KayAteChefhowever ./vmware-server-2.0.x-kernel-2.6.3x-install.sh doesn't work01:56
Gneathat doesn't tell me anything.01:56
KayAteChefit says "cannot execute binary file"01:56
daftykinsKayAteChef: just sign up on vmware.com and download it yourself. it's free to get server01:56
GneaKayAteChef: are you sure you're running it right?01:57
KayAteChefwell I /did/ download it01:57
KayAteChefthat is why i have the tarball01:57
KayAteChefGnea I used chmod +x vmware-server-2.0.x-kernel-2.6.3x-install.sh01:58
KayAteChefand sudo ./vmware-server-2.0.x-kernel-2.6.3x-install.sh01:58
KayAteChefno cigar01:58
GneaKayAteChef: I see. what is the output of this command:  ls -l vmware-server-2.0.x-kernel-2.6.3x-install.sh01:59
KayAteChef-rwxr-xr-x 1 felix felix 8586 2010-10-02 09:53 vmware-server-2.0.x-kernel-2.6.3x-install.sh01:59
KayAteChefas I said...01:59
KayAteChefthe strange thing here is that  vmware-server-2.0.x-kernel-2.6.3x-install.sh is a binary file02:00
VisualAssassinanyone from toronto, canada in here?02:00
KayAteChefit shouldn't be a binary02:00
GneaKayAteChef: and what is the output of this command:  head -n1 vmware-server-2.0.x-kernel-2.6.3x-install.sh02:00
KayAteChefit should be a plaintect script02:00
rwwVisualAssassin: I note that #ubuntu-ca exists :)02:00
GneaKayAteChef: and you're believing this outright?02:01
xiongI tried to use Startup Applications -> Options -> Automatically remember.... Now I have 3 problems. *Problem #1:* On restart, my screen resolution came up the wrong size; all my windows were resized to compensate. I had to go to Display and reset the resolution. But now, various apps, such as Nautilus and Geany, "remember" the wrong geometry.02:01
demonsporkhow do I add a small repository that on a cd rom ISO02:01
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VisualAssassinnot from canada...just wanted to hassle any toronto maple leafs fans02:01
KayAteChefas I say... a binary02:01
GneaKayAteChef: interesting... and you've ran it through the file command as well?02:01
KayAteChefnope02:02
Dragon64VisualAssassin -- I'm from Rochester, thats close!02:02
KayAteChefvmware-server-2.0.x-kernel-2.6.3x-install.sh: gzip compressed data, from Unix02:02
Dragon64lol02:02
KayAteChefa .gz02:02
KayAteChef:O02:02
VisualAssassinwell if your a leafs fan ur team is getting spanked02:02
* Gnea hands KayAteChef a cigar02:02
Dragon64haha, no, and I don't like the Bills neither!02:03
GneaVisualAssassin: got anything on-topic to add to this channel?02:03
VisualAssassinummmmmmmm02:03
VisualAssassinyeahhhhh02:03
hyacinth#join ubuntu-cn02:03
Gnea:)02:03
VisualAssassini love ubuntu, recently converted, and i hope its faster once i upgrade the ram02:03
Gneaupgrading ram is always a good step02:04
VisualAssassini dont want to join ubuntu-cn02:04
Dragon64it is a nice piece of work02:04
VisualAssassinyeah, its already fast, but i do need to upgrade my memory to two gigs02:04
VisualAssassinthis machine im running now i had vista on, and i said screw this, i couldnt even use it, so i installed ubuntu02:04
SuperMiguelany of you guys know if rEFIt supports 2 Hard Drive?02:05
Gneaif I could get my wifi to work, I'd get my home system to get a working GUI on it to work with the 4G in it02:05
xiongOkay, well, no takers on #1... moving on... *Problem #2:* After reboot, all previously open windows open in virtual desktop 1 -- the upper left. I have 8.02:05
GneaVisualAssassin: nice choice. I never gave vista the time of day after I learned how much like windows ME it turned out to be.02:05
Dragon64xiong, sounds like you saved your session on shutdown02:06
Dragon64its a setting02:06
xiongDragon64, Correct.02:06
VisualAssassini got this machine cheap a few years ago and i had the dough to spend so i did...bad investment02:06
teagecan anyone tell me why virtualbox will not compile under lucid?02:06
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erkan^have Launchpad.net a Dutch manual? :S02:06
GneaVisualAssassin: well, maybe on the software end, but if the hardware is still running strong I wouldn't say anything bad about it02:06
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xiongI tried to use Startup Applications -> Options -> Automatically remember....02:06
rgenthnerhas anyone gotten a ATI card and Nvidia work in the same xorg config?02:06
VisualAssassinyeah thats what i mean...hardware is good....VISTA BLOWSSS02:07
Gnea:)02:07
xiongDragon64, Can this be fixed?02:07
Dragon64so you want it shut off, or your app windows spread to different desk tops?02:07
VisualAssassinthe computer looked sleek to ya know thats another reason i bought it02:07
Dragon64i think let me check my system here02:07
luciushi guys02:07
Gneathe only way a computer looks sleek to me is via the specs, so I'm kind of guessing that's what you're referring to, and less about physical glare02:08
KayAteChefdaftykins, Gnea, thanks for youe help02:08
xiongDragon64, I want my windows to come up in the desktops where they were previously. I think I don't want to use "Automatically Remember..."; I turned that off. I can press the remember-now button when I want it.02:08
GneaKayAteChef: cheers02:08
VisualAssassinno physical glare....im a looks kind of guy. I usually buy shit if it looks good, but having good specs is just as important02:08
Dragon64hmmm not sure about that, I dont think it is very sophisticated, but let me see02:08
soadfreak15hey everyone02:09
felonhi02:09
xiongI think it may just be overwhelming to try to relaunch all previously running apps. Better to manually save the important ones.02:09
soadfreak15i need help booting off a usb02:09
Ryen!ask | soadfreak1502:10
ubottusoadfreak15: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)02:10
xiongsoadfreak15, I can't actually help but I'll say that I tried to do that. Note that this is hardware dependent; my particular machine just won't boot USB, no matter what.02:10
Guest70413hi02:10
Ryen!hi | Guest7041302:10
soadfreak15i try booting off a usb and i get the ubuntu with the orange dots like its loading but then the screen goes black then white and changes colors from red to green to blue then grey and starts again and wont go anywhere else02:11
RyenThey keep taking out commands without updating.. Guest70413, how can I help you?02:11
Guest70413my English is very poor02:11
RyenGuest70413: What language do you speak?02:12
soadfreak15?02:12
IdleOne!cn | Guest7041302:12
ubottuGuest70413: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道: #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk02:12
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xiongWell, let's try another. *Problem #3, still related to the session manager:* After reboot, I think all my onscreen text -- everywhere -- panels, window titles, contents, the whole shooting match -- is not quite right. All text appears just a bit blurry, maybe a little too bold. I checked Appearance -> Fonts.02:12
Guest70413Chinese02:12
Guest70413get it,thank you02:13
IdleOnewelcome02:13
soadfreak15i try to run ubuntu from my usb it starts up a looks like its loading but the screen goes black then white and keeps changing colors02:13
evonis it possible to embed linux into your motherboard yourself so you have a system that boots into an OS that allows you to just surf the net02:13
evon?02:13
demonsporkI am having trouble adding a file:// repository for a disk of HP stuff. The actual path to the files are pool/jaunty/8.25/non-free, but when I set up the repository with /path/ jaunty non-free, it skips the 8.25 directory that everything is nested in02:14
soadfreak15any help would be appreciated02:14
demonsporkI know it is for an old version, but I still need to use the things in it02:14
DatzHi, I just tried to get some updates from the update manager, and it says that some software cannot be authenticated.02:14
soadfreak15anyone?02:14
Datzlinux-image-2.6.32-25-generic02:15
dugger5688evon: yes, but afaik you can't do it yourself. ASUS makes/made some boards with simple web browsers based on linux02:15
IdleOneDatz: did you edit sources.list by hand and add a PPA?02:15
Datzis one of the "software packages" that cannot be authenticated/02:15
DatzIdleOne: I don't believe so.02:16
Dragon64xiong, did you check the file .gconfd called saved state?02:16
IdleOneDatz: can you pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list please02:16
Datzsure02:16
* xiong looks02:16
Dragon64should be /home/xiong/.gconfd/saved_state02:17
coolnesswhy r u guys using ubuntu? xd02:17
teagei will try linux image 2.6.33 and if that dont work its back to karmic02:17
soadfreak15i put ubuntu 10.04.1 on a usb and boot it and select run it from the usb and it starts up and i get the ubuntu logo but then the screen goes blank then the whole screen is white then red then green then blue etc then it starts again and goes nowhere02:17
Ryen!ot | coolness02:17
ubottucoolness: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!02:17
DatzIdleOne: it would be one thing if it were some Random package that couldn't be authenticated, but it's the linux kernel image., never the less I'll pastebin. ;)02:17
SorayaGuys Where can i get maps for a gps app ?02:17
evondugger5688: so i'm guess i'm stuck with trying to add browserlinux to grub202:18
soadfreak15???02:18
evondugger5688: thanks for the response02:18
xiongWell, Dragon64, I'm looking at it. It seems to contain a lot of ascii-hex. Not particularly informative?02:18
Gneacoolness: because it works.02:18
IdleOneDatz: I am just wondering what the source of the package is, if it is a PPA you may just need to add the key02:18
Dragon64well i see mention of many apps and their screen assignments02:18
teageDatz, i am reading that many problems with lucid can be solved by upgrading to kernel 2.33, may be something you might look into02:19
IdleOneno need for that02:19
IdleOneleast I don't think so in this case02:19
Dragon64wait i think i found it one sec02:20
lilpodinstall issue with zoneminder and dpkg, how do I rectify this http://pastebin.com/EcS4XnDP please ignore autokey-gtk entries02:20
ubuntuHi02:20
Datzteage, IdleOne. I may just continue with the upgrade.02:20
teagecorrection! Datz, 2.6.3302:20
ubuntuHi im newbie to ubuntu02:20
xiongGuys, let's try to get rid of me a bit faster. Whatever issues I ran into with the default session manager, I don't think I like. Can I use another tool?02:20
msavouryhi ubuntu02:20
ubuntuhow to reinstall grub after i load xp?02:20
IdleOneDatz: I don't think it will hurt anything.02:20
soadfreak15i cant get ubuntu to run02:21
IdleOneubuntu: what version of ubuntu?02:21
Gnea!grub | ubuntu02:21
ubottuubuntu: grub is the default boot manager for Ubuntu releases before Karmic (9.10). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto - See !grub2 for Karmic onwards.02:21
DatzIdleOne: yea, I didn't think so, but was just curious, thanks02:21
lilpodiS theRe a uBUNTU help guide for zoneminder?02:22
oak2278Just installed 10.4 UNR. My panel randomly disappears and i have to logout/in to get it back.. doesnt seem to be hidden as a mouseover still shows options and i can click where things should be02:22
st__oak2278, turn off composition02:23
xiongThat is, unless I'm mistaken, Ubuntu uses xsm by default. Can I change this?02:23
soadfreak15screen flashes different colors when trying to run ubuntu from usb doesnt do anything after that...any help?02:23
oak2278not familiar is that an irc request or related to my issue02:23
Dragon64yeah nope02:23
Dragon64soadfreak15 -- which version of ubuntu? latest 10.402:24
soadfreak15yeah02:24
Dragon64what kind of video card you have?02:24
soadfreak15xgi volari xp5 on a dell inspiron 5160 laptop02:25
Dragon64this should be an easy one, as soon as the boot menu comes up hit the escape key and exit to the command line02:25
Dragon64from there type live xforcevesa02:26
Dragon64and hit enter02:26
Dragon64should put you in safe video mode basically02:26
Blasianhow to hack computer02:26
Dragon64from there you can do what you want02:26
soadfreak15ok ill try it02:26
soadfreak15thanks02:26
Dragon64np02:26
cjaeif a create an lvm with a disk that that info on it even though I used the same filesystem that stuff is gone now right02:26
soadfreak15if it doesnt work ill come back on here02:26
IdleOneBlasian: we don't do that. Please ask somewhere else02:26
Dragon64ok02:26
msavouryyou hack computers by replying to all spam and giving them all/any information they ask for02:27
Datzmsavoury: I think you mean computers hack you :p02:30
DatzLinux ubuserv 2.6.32-25-server #44-Ubuntu SMP Fri Sep 17 21:13:39 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux02:31
Datzseems I'd have to upgrade to 10.10 to get kernel 2.6.33 without manual installation...02:32
Datzubottu echo hi02:32
donvito2http://www.jirp.nl/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/screenshot.png02:32
st__why would you want experimental kernel ons erver in 1st place?02:32
donvito2how can i make my icons down there just like in the picture below please http://www.jirp.nl/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/screenshot.png02:32
DatzI wouldn't02:32
Datzst__: anyway, latest stable is later than that one.02:33
paulo#linux02:33
swexhey02:33
donvito2how can i make my icons down there just like in the picture below please http://www.jirp.nl/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/screenshot.png02:33
swexanyone can help me02:34
msavouryask your question02:34
st__lol why people like make screenshots with conky showing various rubbish?02:34
swexusb mouse and keyboadr dies when I booting my pc,02:34
swexthen when I unplug-plug they are starts to work02:34
swexwtf?02:34
Dragon64swex try turning on legacy usb in the bios02:34
paulo#ubuntu brasil02:35
Dragon64some mobos have it some dont02:35
Datz!pt | paulo02:35
ubottupaulo: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigado.02:35
IdleOnepaulo: /join #ubuntu-br02:35
swexI've cached this bug dnt know how02:35
QueefI am trying to mount my external cd/dvd-rw and i cant locate it in /etc/fstab, can anyone help http://paste.ubuntu.com/504258/02:35
swexDragon64, thx02:36
DatzQueef: find it in /dev02:36
DatzQueef: then either mount it from there, or make an entry for it in fstab02:36
QueefDatz : thank you02:37
Dragon64Queef, yes, /dev or if you see more than one device scan through dmesg for the messages generated when it was found, should tell you what it is02:37
f00bar80i'm on ubuntu 10.04 , i'm asking how to disable system standby/hibernate from command line for gnome,02:37
st__!pm | donvito202:37
ubottudonvito2: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first.02:37
PrimeRadI just wanted to let everyone know I did some legwork and determined after a lot of site searches that perhaps gtalk (google talk) does not have chat rooms.02:39
QueefDragon64 : it says ufw block02:39
st__so?02:39
Dragon64does it give a device id somewhere near that at all?02:39
PrimeRadI just that if might be informative.02:39
f00bar80any comment ?!!02:40
Dragon64like /dev/scd0?02:40
PrimeRadI feel bad now.02:40
almoxarifewhen restoring the desktop involving installing pckgs how do I insure I install every package previously there, is there a catch all apt-get install command line that would include everything, and I understand that all the ppa's/sources would have to be avail??02:41
ruserIS there a guide to using network-manager02:43
Dragon64apt get has a cpmmand to generate a list of installed packages I think for just that sort of thing02:43
Ashokheyyyyyyyy02:43
Ashokwhats up buddies02:43
ruserIS there a guide to using network-manager02:43
lilpod!zoneminder | lilpod02:43
rusersomeone said dpkg had it02:43
mark2010JOIN ubuntu102:43
ruserHow do I get network-manager to recognize my DSL modem?02:43
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ruserNETWORK MANAGER02:43
ruserpeople02:44
Dr_Willis!dsl02:44
ubottuSetting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE02:44
ruserIT worked before, now it's not recognizing it02:44
DatzIdleOne: I think the problem may have come from installing vmware tools02:44
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mark2010join ubuntu102:44
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Dr_Willismark2010:  you mean '/join #ubuntu+1'  ?02:45
ruserhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE02:45
ruserSo02:45
coz_:)02:45
mark2010yes02:45
ruserWhat's a good way to test out why it's not working?02:45
ruserI even tried modprobe 8139too02:45
Ashokcooool02:45
Dr_Willis8139too is a network card module. Those things should be gettting loaded automatically for the most part.02:46
ruserit did after I typed that02:46
ruserI guess I could format my drive and reinstall linux02:46
ruserthat always works02:46
st__ruser, just compile it in02:47
Dr_WillisI think ruseris a little confused....02:47
msakmsgreetings all, so did anyone experience the slow transfer speed to external drives??02:48
Dr_WillisIf hes saying he has to load a module to get DSL working.. then.. hes found the solution..  if the module is not autoloading at bootup.. set it to autoload by hand.02:48
st__why theres no separate smp/up kernels in ubuntu?02:48
Dr_Willismsakms:  ive seen slow speeds to USB Flash drives.. but external USB hard drives worked fine..02:49
Dr_Willisst__:  i recall the last release (or 2 releases ago) they trimmed down the # of kernels.  Never paied much attention to smp or other kernel features. I would guess its built into the defaults now.02:49
msakmsmy external drive has an ntfs fs and it works just perfect but i get slow write speeds on my vfat thumb drive02:49
Dr_Willismsakms:  like i said.. flash drive, slower,   USB Hard drive. fine.02:50
Dr_Willismsakms:  ive not notuiced the same issue in 10.1002:50
st__msakms, i believe there are multiple bugs for it, but noone gave enough details to investigate them02:50
Dragon64hey guys, what is everyones favorite media manager for Ubuntu? Songbird, rythom box? Anything better?02:51
st__banshee the best for me02:51
msakmsok but why when i mount it manually with the async option, the speed gets boosted again02:51
msakmshow can i set the async option as default02:51
Dragon64ok kool02:51
f00bar80may anybody tell me how to disable hibernate and standby , i've tried /apps/gnome-power-manager/lock general and disabled all things there and still i get screen locked , please may anybody answer me or let me know if if i'm in the wrong #, in gnome they've said settings should go into affect immediately;02:51
msavourydragon64: rhythm box does it for me02:51
st__msakms, sudo mount -o remount,nosync XXX02:52
Dragon64what about mp3 player sync, does it do that?02:52
st__didn't pay attention to that02:52
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Dragon64ok02:52
chaterzzzzany way to install all the things in synaptics ?02:53
Dragon64wow you are ambitious!02:53
Dr_Willischaterzzzz:  clarify..   and  you dont want to install 'EVERYTHING' thats in the repositories..02:53
st__chaterzzzz, no since some of them are conflicting with each other02:53
msakmsthnx <ST> i'll give it a shot and see wht happens02:54
chaterzzzzmost of them, I wanna02:54
Dr_Willischaterzzzz:  I find that doubtfull also... what are you wanting to install exactly?02:54
Dr_Willischaterzzzz:  apt-get install  can take 'wildcards' :)02:54
Dr_Willissudo apt-get install *-desktop *-restricted-extras02:55
st__bah seasonal aggravation I presume02:55
msavouryi wonder how much disk space that would take02:56
Dr_WillisTesting now.. flash drive does seem speedier in 10.10 - that nosync may be the default now.02:56
chaterzzzzDr_Willis,  irregular expression02:56
Dr_Willisirregular ? eat more fiber.02:56
msavouryfiber one bars? mmm02:57
chaterzzzzjust installing all restricted extras02:57
nogono mandarin please02:57
QueefDragon64: after trying to mount it, i got a result saying cannot read superblock02:57
Dr_WillisTab completion also works for apt-get.02:57
samlhey, do you automatically update from multiverse, restricted, and universe?02:58
samlor main only?02:58
Dr_Willissaml:  any added repos are automatically 'updated' from.02:58
Dragon64what did you put in for mount options?02:58
st__saml, from every active repo02:58
samlfrom Update Manager setting, what should I check?02:59
QueefDragon64 : i did mkdir /dev/external, then sudo mount -t02:59
Dragon64whats in the fstab?02:59
Queefi pastebin'd it02:59
Dragon64you must have added a line for the cdrom02:59
Dragon64o ok02:59
Guest24148Hello02:59
Dragon64that one, you will need to add a line for the cd in fstab03:00
swexhey03:00
Guest24148How do I change my ethernet connection from a self-assigned address to an automatically assigned address03:00
chaterzzzznot enough info in repo , bad names03:00
Guest24148using network-manager03:00
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swexDragon64, looks like I found why i loosing usb mouse and keyboard while system boots03:00
Queefhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/504263/03:00
lynx__How do I change my ethernet connection from a self-assigned address to an automatically assigned address, using network-manager03:01
Dragon64Queef, there is no line for cd rom there, need to add one03:01
st__lynx__, dhclient03:01
swexsomebody plz help03:01
Dragon64whats that swex03:01
swexhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/504265/03:01
lynx__what do I do, type dhclient?03:01
swexusbcore: deregistering interface driver usbhid03:01
swexthis message in log03:02
swexwhy?03:02
QueefDragon64: how so03:02
Queefi know with gedit, but what do i add03:02
lynx__what do I do03:02
Dragon64one sec03:03
st__sudo dhclient I believe03:03
lynx__maybe it's my DSL modem that is the problem03:03
Dragon64Queef something like this03:03
lynx__but I doubt it, it works03:03
Dragon64/dev/hdb /media/cdrom iso9660 defaults 0 003:03
lynx__but I doubt it, it works on another computer03:03
Dragon64btw i didnt see your cdrom in the screenshot03:04
Dragon64no clue swex03:04
Dragon64that is annoying isnt it?03:04
tejashello everyone, does anyone have any exsperience with getting the realtek drivers to work03:04
st__in network manager just change type to dhjcp03:04
swexDragon64, yep03:04
lynx__No DHCPOFFERS received.03:04
lynx__No working leases in persistent database - sleeping.03:04
swexI just have to replug both devices after boot to get them to wok03:05
swexwork03:05
st__lynx__, so there's no dhcp servers in your network03:05
lynx__I guess now03:05
lynx__I guess not03:05
lynx__network-manager worked just fine before03:05
lynx__There's no man page for it03:05
QueefDragon64 : ok, i added that line03:06
Dragon64did you edit in the correct device and all03:06
lynx__not really03:06
lynx__because I don't know where I should03:06
lynx__I guess I could do lsof03:06
lynx__and find out what config file it reads from03:06
nogo?03:07
swexanybody pls: do u have this line in your /var/syslog03:07
swex?03:07
swexusbcore: deregistering interface driver usbhid03:07
icarus-clynx__, /etc/NetworkManager  maybe03:07
icarus-clynx__, between, have you check the log03:08
nogolynx__: look into your /var/lib/dhcp303:08
lynx__so03:08
nogolynx__: so you can read the log03:08
nogolynx__: the log of dhclient03:09
* icarus-c meant to say the log of networkmanager... but never mind03:09
Takeasyubuntu can't recognize my display card03:09
Takeasyhow can i re-install my ubuntu03:10
Takeasy?03:10
nogowhat card?03:10
lynx__dhcdbd: message_handler: message handler not found under /com/redhat/dhcp/eth0 for sub-path eth0.dbus.get.host_name03:10
lynx__ls: cannot access /com/: No such file or directory03:10
lynx__network manager doesn't hav e a log03:10
Takeasyis there any way to bypass the display checking?"03:10
lynx__it just has this03:10
FloodBot3lynx__: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.03:10
icarus-cTakeasy, first of all, reinstalling typically isn't the (easy) way  to fix something03:10
lynx__total 1203:10
lynx__drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2010-06-13 16:11 .03:10
lynx__drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 2010-06-13 16:00 ..03:10
lynx__-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  874 2009-01-14 03:42 01ifupdown03:10
FloodBot3lynx__: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.03:10
lynx__ok03:10
Takeasyicarus-c: yes,i know03:10
icarus-cTakeasy, what video card(s) you got?03:11
Takeasymy computer installed windows and xubuntu03:11
Takeasyhold on03:11
Wakko10WarnerCheck out: http://tieve.tk/ : we could use some more soldiers ... to fight against the DMCA ...03:11
nogolynx__: are you using ubuntu....03:11
icarus-cTakeasy, you may get the information by  command "lspci"03:11
nogosudo lspci -vvv03:11
icarus-cthat gives way more than enough info03:12
nogoi don't need it03:12
nogoi use the gui app to read all details03:12
nogojust one click03:12
icarus-cTakeasy, lspci | grep VGA03:13
Takeasy?03:13
icarus-cnogo, want to compare the time it takes to run  "lspci | grep VGA" with  the gui one  :P03:13
Takeasyi'm using an IBM X40 notebook03:13
nogoTakeasy: you are lucky if you are using a ati card03:13
icarus-cTakeasy, enter the above command  in a terminal03:13
icarus-c!terminal | Takeasy03:13
* nogo runs03:13
ubottuTakeasy: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome), K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE), or Menu -> Accessories -> LXTerminal (LXDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal03:13
Takeasy00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02)03:14
nogoTakeasy: your thinkpad has a dedicated site maintained by pandas03:14
RJ_F1are you sure its not monkeys?03:15
icarus-cTakeasy, what makes you think that ubuntu doesn't detect your card?03:15
nogono, pandas03:15
nogopandas stole your skills then put it onto their site03:15
Rothamugh03:15
RJ_F1oh, ok. just checking03:15
Rothamhey03:15
Takeasywhen i insert the ubuntu installation disc, it goes black screen03:15
nogoha ha03:15
Rothamwill RAR files work alright if i specify 500mb parts?03:16
Rothamim trying to break up an 18gb file03:16
Dragon64take easy one sec03:16
RothamI did 25mb parts first and it was taking forever :/03:16
nogowhat file can be 18gb in size?03:16
Takeasyi can't get through the display card checking03:16
Rothama vdi file03:16
Rothamlol03:16
Rothamvirtual disk :P03:16
nogocrap03:17
Dragon64this should be an easy one, as soon as the boot menu comes up hit the escape key and exit to the command line03:17
Dragon64<Dragon64> from there type live xforcevesa03:17
Dragon64<Dragon64> and hit enter03:17
st__Rotham, it should03:17
Rothamok cool03:17
Sorayahi guys03:17
Dragon64thats for you takeasy03:17
Rothamthanks :)03:17
Takeasyhold on03:17
Sorayais there anything like desktop fences out there for linux03:18
icarus-cSoraya, what does it do03:18
icarus-cSoraya, group icons on desktop?03:18
TakeasyDragon64: what in the boot menu?03:18
icarus-cSoraya, KDE does that03:18
Soul_Eaterwhat is the name of the package for command source?03:19
Dragon64you need to exit from the boot menu and get to the command line03:19
Sorayaicarus-c, Any How To03:19
Dragon64so hit the escape key03:19
Dragon64then type03:19
icarus-cSoraya, you have to use KDE instead of GNOME03:19
Takeasyok, Dragnslcr03:19
Dragon64live xforcevesa03:19
Takeasyok, Dragon6403:20
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Takeasyactually,my problem is that i can't hear sound in xubuntu03:20
Takeasybut i can hear sound in windows in the same notebook03:20
icarus-cSoraya, apt-get install kubuntu-desktop  i suppose03:20
Takeasythat's why i'm going to reinstall xubuntu03:21
nogoTakeasy: you are lack of a driver for a inner device03:21
Sorayaicarus-c, Yes is something like Kubuntu03:21
Sorayaok thanks03:21
nogoTakeasy: is the sound chip a ac97 codec?03:21
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Takeasynogo: how to confirm it?03:22
nogoTakeasy: my new toy uses new intel hda so there is no such issues03:22
Takeasyi think it is03:22
icarus-cSoraya, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE03:22
icarus-cSoraya, personally i don't even use desktop shortcut/icon :P03:22
TakeasyAC9703:22
nogoTakeasy: i think so03:22
Takeasyhow to solve it?03:22
nogoTakeasy: modprobe the correct driver03:23
Takeasyif i can solve the sound problem , it's good to not re-install :D03:23
Sorayaicarus-c, is a very personal PC,i like shortcuts for fast working around the clock03:23
nogoTakeasy: it's the problem of the smbus03:23
nogoTakeasy: check out your smbus and i2c03:24
Takeasyhow to check?03:24
nogo...03:24
rypervencheIs anyone available to help me with something?03:24
Takeasysorry i'm new to this03:24
nogoTakeasy: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki03:24
nogoTakeasy: pandas will teach you03:24
Injection33rypervenche, what's gonig on?03:25
* nogo kicks all thinkpad users to pandas site03:25
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icarus-cSoraya, i got keyboard shortcuts for all commonly used app. and a file browser sitting on workspace 4 all the time :P03:27
rypervencheInjection33, I put Final Fantasy 7 on my Ubuntu Lepid and it works just fine with Wine. However I wanted to change it to the Chinese version and I know how to do that, but by replacing the ff7.exe it changes the settings. I basically need to know how to open up exe files. Does anyone know how I can do that? It's not a self-extracting zip file so I can't do it with unzip.03:27
xbonesxlooking for a good xml file editor, any recommendations?03:28
soreauxbonesx: gedit?03:28
soreau! IDE03:28
ubottuProgramming editors/suites: Terminal-based: vi/vim, emacs - KDE: Kate, KDevelop, Quanta+, Umbrello - GNOME: gvim, gedit, anjuta, pida, monodevelop, geany - Others: eclipse, netbeans, qtcreator03:28
Sorayaicarus-c, u most be a pro on this computers,,,im so new i steel smell line babypowder03:28
Injection33rypervenche, what do you mean open exe?03:28
xbonesxsoreau: gedit doesnt compile the file nicely, i want somthing that will organize it for a nice viewing03:29
xbonesxsoreau: rather than all text03:29
soreauxbonesx: I personally like geany, if not anything more than a syntax highlighting editor03:29
Sorayaicarus-c, i found screenlets,im scare that KDE make my pc look like Kubuntu03:29
nogoyou lost bluefish03:29
xbonesxgeany ok ill check it out03:29
rypervencheInjection33, I'm not quite sure. I know people create exe files and I'd like to see what is inside it. There is something that has been changed and I need to change and edit it.03:30
soreauxbonesx: You can select the file type in geany>Document>Set Filetype>Markup Languages>XML if it does not automatically detect the file type (because your xml file is lacking proper heading)03:30
xbonesxok03:31
nogorypervenche: is that legal?03:31
st__rypervenche, hex editor, binary diff utility, disassembler etc03:31
rypervencheNo clue.03:31
nogorypervenche: you need a debugger03:31
st__nogo, yes, if it's singleplayer game03:31
nogost__: for x86?03:32
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st__what for x86?03:32
nogox86 machines03:32
Injection33rypervenche, if you can't open an exe file you probably dont' have the know how to edit and recompile it03:33
rypervencheInjection33: that is correct ><03:33
st__traitors, all of you03:33
nogoInjection33: i think, he just wants to modify some static values03:33
nogoInjection33: game hacking03:33
rypervenchenogo: I need to compare the two exe files that I have and see where they differ. One works with the Chinese version on Windows just fine, but it doesn't work with my custom graphics renderer, so I need to kind of mix the two accordingly.03:35
winterelfhi there..does anybody know of a good way yo display cpu information on desktop ?03:37
* nogo runs...03:37
rypervenchenogo: Basically I have the official English version exe, and then a patched Chinese version. However, to get the English version to work on Linux, I needed some customized files.03:37
nogorypervenche: i don't want to waste my time on this03:38
rypervencheI suppose my question is a bit too ....odd.03:38
rypervenchenogo: Fair enough.03:38
nogodon't buy chinese version of games03:38
rypervenchenogo: I didn't. I am learning Mandarin and it has been a great way to help my learning.03:39
nogothat's your problem03:39
nogowe don't need mandarin so far03:39
rypervenchenogo: we?03:40
nogoin fact, i am suffering to abandon all my mandarin knowledge03:40
nogos/to/in03:40
rypervenchenogo: ....you do that.03:40
nogoit's like poison03:40
pc_im haveing a hard time finding my atalanis plugin i upgraded my ubuntu and now i cant remember how to reinstal it its been years i reay need a hand03:41
* nogo burn down all mandarin books03:41
pc_i was useing ubuntu 8 now im on ubuntu 1003:41
pc_any 1 have or have had the extra plugins for compiz03:43
soreau! anyone | pc_03:43
ubottupc_: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?03:43
pc_how do i install the compiz plugins for the atlantis fish tank cube :)03:44
bazhang!ot | nogo03:44
ubottunogo: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!03:44
streakingdisplayWhen I boot into ubuntu (live cd, post install, kde, gnome) the display comes up as a bunch of streaked lines. I need some info on the pieces and terms involved in display to try and troubleshoot. The only way I can seem to interact with the install is through the text recovery console through the alternative install disk. (the grub boot recovery option has the same problem) Any ideas?03:44
dsnydersHi all, my clock is wrong, and ntpdate cannot reach a valid server because the socket is in use.03:45
soreaupc_: Ask in #compiz please03:45
soreaupc_: We can help you more with that there03:45
gnubuntuDoes an Ubuntu installation recognize other GNU/Linux OSs in the GRUB and not overwrite the MBR?03:45
pc_how do i find that room :(03:46
IdleOnepc_: type /join #compiz03:46
bazhangpc_, /join #compiz03:46
dsnyders!ntpdate03:47
bobstrognubuntu:  it should find them and add them as options, yes. it will overwrite the mbr.03:47
dsnyders!ntp03:47
ubottuInformation about using and setting your computer's clock on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuTime - See https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/NTP.html for information on usage of the Network Time Protocol (NTP)03:47
lynx__hekllo03:47
gnubuntubobstro, thank you.03:48
Blue1what does this error mean (from /var/log/apcupsd.events) Connection from localhost.localdomain refused by tcp_wrappers.03:52
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bobstroBlue1:  sounds like you've got a ups monitoring program set up, and it's being blocked in /etc/hosts.deny03:53
bobstroBlue1:  most likely a configuration error since it's trying to connect on the local machine03:54
bobstrohmmm... but have tcp wrappers been superceded in ubuntu? i'm not sure03:55
Blue1bobstro: okay I'll look thanks03:55
Blue1bobstro: i don't know this quit working about 5-6 weeks ago03:55
bobstroBlue1:  did you install any security software?03:56
Blue1bobstro: negative03:56
Blue1!pastebin | blue`03:56
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Blue1bobstro: reality check me please - this is my hosts.deny -- http://paste.ubuntu.com/504285/03:58
tristan_you are blocking individual spammers?03:58
bobstroBlue1:  you're not behind a firewall? is this an exposed server?03:58
lynx__How do I make it so that my network-manager detects my cable modem03:59
Blue1bobstro: behind a router, no03:59
bobstroBlue1:  there are likely easier ways to deal with some of those issues.03:59
bobstroBlue1:  i am rusty with precedence between hosts.allow and hosts.deny. anything in allow?03:59
Blue1bobstro: well the issue is why apsupsd suddenly comes up with the tcp_wrapper error03:59
bobstroBlue1:  understood. tcpd is stopping it from connecting locally.04:00
bobstroBlue1:  why is what we're after now.04:00
dugger5688lynx__: you should just be able to plug it in. If you're behind a router then you won't really see it at all.04:00
Blue1bobstro: hosts.allow  http://paste.ubuntu.com/504287/04:01
tristan_lynx__: whos doing the routing04:01
tristan_dear Blue104:02
tristan_I seem to remember getting this error when I was messing around with04:02
tristan_tcp wrappers. Make sure you have something like `ALL: 127.0.0.0/8' in04:02
tristan_hosts.allow (assuming you have ALL:ALL in hosts.deny!).04:02
tristan_If that doesn't help, make sure your loopback interface is up.04:02
FloodBot3tristan_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.04:02
tristan_Running `ifconfig lo' will tell you.04:02
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FloodBot3Genieliu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.04:02
GenieliuSorry04:03
Blue1tristan_: i can hadd that04:03
tristan_google recommends it.04:03
tristan_at any rate. nooooo localhost/loopback traffic should be getting dropped04:03
tristan_it exists for a real04:03
lynx__How do I make it so that my network-manager detects my cable modem04:04
lynx__How do I make it so that my network-manager detects my cable modem04:04
lynx__How do I make it so that my network-manager detects my cable modem04:04
FloodBot3lynx__: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.04:04
Blue1tristan_: fixed it - many thanks.04:04
gileadhi04:05
tristan_it was the second google hit chief.04:05
Ryengilead: Hello, can we help you?04:05
gileadI just tried to upgrade to 10.10 and the network went down during package download. Now I can't restart the process as both update-manager -d and do-release-upgrade -d say there's no new distro available -- how to reset the state so it sees 10.10 again?04:05
gileadhi Ryen!04:06
bobstroBlue1:  are you using iptables firewall as well?04:06
Ryen!10.10 | gilead04:06
ubottugilead: Maverick Meerkat is the codename for Ubuntu 10.10, due October 10, 2010 - Maverick Release Candidate at http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/1010 , discussion and support in #ubuntu+104:06
Blue1bobstro: no04:06
gileaduuh, sorry :)04:06
bobstroBlue1:  reason being that tcp wrappers do not protect everything. i recommend doing a scan of your system from the outside.04:06
Ryengilead: No worries. :)04:06
Blue1bobstro: anyway i added the line tristin suggested, and it works fine now.04:06
bobstroBlue1:  yes, apc ups daemon does. i'm saying your protection may not be what you're expecting if only using tcp wrappers.04:07
bobstroBlue1:  (this being the voice of experience)04:07
tristan_meh04:07
Blue1bobstro: what do you reccomend then?04:07
tristan_if hes behind an isr it will be fine.04:07
tristan_or some form or nat.04:07
bobstroBlue1:  step 1 - scan from outside to BE SURE.04:07
bobstrohe said no04:08
Blue1tristan_: i am behind a router04:08
bobstroBlue1:  thought you said no firewall tho?04:08
Blue1bobstro: not sure how to do that...04:08
tristan_ill nmap you.04:08
bobstroBlue1:  from an external address, run an nmap scan04:08
Blue1bobstro: no software firewall ufw disable04:08
tristan_tis a bit slow. 5 mins remaining04:08
tristan_but:04:08
bobstroBlue1:  learn how to do it. it's the only way to really KNOW your security is working.04:08
Blue1bobstro: i don't have an external address all are local machines.04:08
tristan_does your ubuntu box have a private or public address added.04:08
tristan_like a 192/172/10.* or routable04:09
bobstroBlue1:  oh? you have a lot of pulic ips in that allow file.04:09
bobstroBlue1:  er.. public04:09
tristan_ten four04:09
Blue1bobstro: well I do have an external address, but all my machines are hooked up to the router.04:09
tristan_he should be protected already.04:09
tristan_at least from the big bad world outside.04:09
tristan_shit spreading in your lan is outside the scope of this.04:09
tristan_4 mins left04:10
bobstrotristan_:  depending on what's forwarded. it looks like some stuff is.04:10
bobstrotristan_:  surely no harm in knowing for sure, and not assuming?04:10
tristan_surely not. i am scanning him.04:10
hasenjis the open source ati driver better than the proprietry one?04:10
Blue1tristan_: i have had no problems running this way in 5 years.  only people who need ssh access can have ssh access.  ftp is an anonmous ftp so, yeah i don't think I have any security issues atm (so I say now)04:10
hasenjin other words should I switch to the open source version or am i just asking for trouble?04:11
tristan_meh. it should be fine.04:11
tristan_nat == firewall in this context04:11
Blue1tristan_: correct04:11
bobstroBlue1:  ah, i mis-read your 'behind a firewall, no' above :)04:11
tristan_almost done.04:12
Blue1bobstro: this is what nmap shows  http://paste.ubuntu.com/504291/04:12
gaelfxall my panel applets move to strange places whenever I reboot, how can I make them stay put?04:13
bobstrotristan_:  sourcing scan from port 53 might be interesting04:14
tristan_all the ports i hit are closed.04:14
tristan_registered ports only, though.04:14
Genieliugaelfx:have you fixed it yet?04:14
bobstroBlue1:  do you run the router?04:14
Blue1gaelfx: right click on icon, and then click "lock to panel"04:15
Blue1bobstro: yes04:15
bobstroBlue1:  you don't have an "any any" rule for port 53/dns (hopefully)?04:15
Genieliugaelfx:yes lock to the panel04:15
Blue1bobstro: nope04:15
tristan_you dont need incoming 53.04:15
Blue1tristan_: i can close that, and prolly telnet, -- all incoming port 80 traffic blocked by my isp anyway.04:16
tristan_i dont see anything open.04:16
bobstroBlue1:  are you on cox in phoenix?04:16
Blue1bobstro: yuppers04:16
Blue1bobstro: only in Tucson, not pahonics04:17
bobstroBlue1:  i was in phoenix 13 years, much of it on cox -- @home originally04:17
bobstroBlue1:  you are lucky to get cox in TUC! my buddies can only get crappy dsl.04:17
Blue1bobstro: they don't call em cox blankers for nothing...04:17
tristan_cox blankers?04:17
bobstroBlue1:  you mind if i run a scan as well?04:17
Endafyhey I have used a lot of distros, I really like Ubuntu. How come flash doesn't seem to work as well on Ubuntu 10.04.1?04:18
Blue1bobstro: no go ahead --04:18
Endafylike it works beautifully on other distros04:18
nogo?04:18
Endafybut it skips and my audio skips as well04:18
nogomy usbkey ubuntu is fine everyday04:19
nogono disk i/o at all04:19
coz_Endafy,  64 bit or 32 bit?04:19
Blue1nogo: I have a "ubuntu 2 go" usb drive as well04:20
EndafyI may try debian and see if things work better with debian, but I would really like for things to quit being so skippy and glitchy04:20
coz_Endafy,  debian and flash  I dont think so04:20
Endafycoz_: either or I dualboot them both04:20
nogoBlue1: but your i/o is too much and it will be dead soon04:20
gaelfxGenieliu: locking the applets to the panel does nothing, they still move and then they are locked in the wrong position once the machine starts up again04:20
Blue1nogo: naw, I use ext2 (no journaling) and changed it to realatime - works fine04:21
Endafycoz_: right now I am on an RPM based distro and im not liking how things are messed up in other areas, but I am unsure what is even wrong to begin with04:21
nogoBlue1: realtime my ...04:21
Endafyto cause it to be so glitchy on Ubuntu04:21
Blue1nogo: http://pkill-9.com/wordpress/?p=5104:21
bobstroBlue1:  i see ftp, ssh & auth. ssh is covered by your wrappers. good.04:21
Blue1yup04:21
Blue1bobstro: I tried to do the best job I know..04:21
bazhangnogo, please stay on topic04:21
coz_Endafy,  debian and flash are not going to be easy... debian - anal gpl   so I wouldnt go that route personally04:22
bobstroBlue1:  always good to KNOW. i mis-understood your response about the router, thought you were running directly exposed with no firewall.04:22
Endafycoz_ I use the Nvidia drivers, it is a gtx 260, all my hardware is up to par, 3 gig ram dual core AMD 5000+04:22
bobstroBlue1:  i've seen guys add "any any" rule allowing dns, which will bite ya.04:23
TiKcoz: flash "quare" is pretty tight04:23
Blue1coz_: hey d00d.  I finally got that problem solved with the nvidia card we were working on - use a vanilla xorg.conf file.  legacy nvidia cards aren't currently supported in 10.1004:23
coz_Blue1,  understood04:23
Blue1bobstro: i don't think I did that...04:23
tristan_ive started using mplayer in place of flash.04:23
bobstroBlue1:  no, you look good. i just like to be a bit paranoid.04:23
Endafyit seems even when running MP3s and OGGs the audio skips around and it is so bothersome I cannot listen to it, I can't watch movies either for that matter, AMD with Nvidia chipset04:24
bobstroBlue1:  you've poked at ssh to test, right?04:24
Blue1bobstro: I'd be way more worried if I were running m$04:24
Blue1bobstro: yup --04:24
tristan_hm.04:24
bobstroBlue1:  true, but i always like to test if possible04:24
tristan_bobstro: howd you scan04:24
Blue1bobstro: it locks all but approved in hosts.allow out04:24
tristan_i stealth syn.04:24
EndafyI mean "sure" I could use another distro but I really like how Ubuntu does things04:24
Blue1bobstro: why I even tested at mcd to make sure I couldn't get in!  (hehe)04:25
bobstrotristan_:  i usually do -sT since stealth is so readily blocked.04:25
tristan_fair04:25
tristan_Note: Host seems down. If it is really up, but blocking our ping probes, try -PN.04:25
bobstrotristan_:  plus it sets off alarm bells (though a scan usually does anyhow)04:25
tristan_i tried that first:p04:25
bobstrotristan_:  i didn't get that!04:25
tristan_and PN returns zilch. no auth or ssh04:25
nkdoodwalmy visual effects are not working04:26
bobstrotristan_:  interesting. i did use --source-port 53.04:26
tejascan anyone tell me how to fix a permission error when doing "make install"04:26
Blue1tejas: sudo make install04:26
tristan_ah. i follow.04:26
gaelfxhow can I get my panel applets to stay put after reboot? locking them to panel is remarkably ineffective04:26
tejaswow i feel dumb now lol04:26
Genieliugaelfx:try right click the icon and choose to move to the initial location and restar again04:26
bobstrotejas:  you often need to do install as root04:27
Blue1gaelfx: i answered that eons ago must have missed it -- right click on icon, then click on "lock to panel"04:27
bobstrowups- answered already.04:27
gaelfxGenieliu: I did move them initially, but problem still persists04:27
gaelfxBlue1: problem still persists....04:27
Blue1gaelfx: you are running gnome, and 10.04?04:28
gaelfxBlue1: yes04:29
pksadiqmay I ask Open Office related question here?04:29
Blue1gaelfx: maybe x is setup weird?  can you do:  grep -i glx /var/log/Xorg.0.log04:29
nkdoodwalhelp..... my visual effects are not working04:29
Blue1gaelfx: and pastebin the output?04:30
bazhangpksadiq, #openoffice.org04:30
pksadiqk04:30
gaelfxBlue1: yeah, but it's gonna have to wait a couple minutes, I'm IRCing on a different machine04:31
Blue1gaelfx: k04:31
pksadiqbu #openoffice.org members are inactive :(04:32
MooshiMuushiAnyone here who uses a PS3 and media servers with Ubuntu?04:33
nogops3 is not ubuntu04:34
pksadiqbut #openoffice.org members are inactive :(04:34
MooshiMuushinogo, Haha, I know.04:34
pksadiqnogo :)04:34
nogoooo is not ubuntu too04:34
nkdoodwalhelp..... my visual effects are not working04:34
MooshiMuushinogo, I was asking if anyone here media servers to the PS3 using Ubuntu.04:34
nogothat's ps3's problem04:35
coz_nkdoodwal,  visual effects as in  compiz?04:35
tejascan someone please tell me what this means? configure: error: required curses helper header not found04:35
coz_tejas,  is that the entire readout of the error?04:35
pksadiqnkdoodwal press ALT + F2 and type compiz --replace and hit enter04:36
nkdoodwalcoz_: i uninstalled compiz04:36
coz_nkdoodwal,  ok  so which "effects"  do you mean?04:36
MooshiMuushitejas, Can you reply to coz_'s question?04:37
pksadiqsudo apt-get install compiz04:37
nogocoz_: he mean the effects which needs 3d hardware04:37
tejasim working on it mooshi04:37
gaelfxapologies for o-t, but why the heck does pastebin have to have twitter crap on their homepage?04:37
soreau! ot | gaelfx04:38
ubottugaelfx: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!04:38
IdleOnegaelfx: the question being ot means the answer would be also. ask pastebin04:38
tejasno its not but do you really want me copy and paste the whole thing04:38
nkdoodwalcoz_: when right key of mouse press then in menu list visual effects04:38
MooshiMuushiIf it's long, use pastebin.04:38
MooshiMuushibrb04:38
xiongWhen GNOME opens a window, it positions it in a certain way. It's not random; it seems to want to use up as much of the screen as it can. What controls this?04:39
gaelfxBlue1: http://pastebin.com/fYAtv3Tn04:39
coz_nkdoodwal,  what is your native language?04:39
Prometheushowdy, is there a place where I could find a sources.list for 10.04 server?04:39
nkdoodwalhindi04:39
Blue1gaelfx: omw04:39
Prometheusfor some reason I am not able to do build-dep nginx due to sources04:39
gaelfxthanks, apologies for the delay04:39
xiongAlso, is there a command-line interface to the virtual desktops, so that windows can be moved from one to another from a terminal?04:40
pksadiqnkdoodwal I'm from india04:40
coz_nkdoodwal,    मुझे यकीन है कि आप क्या सही क्लिक के साथ प्रभाव मतलब नहीं हूँ04:40
tejascoz_: its in paste bin04:40
coz_tejas,  i didnt see the pastebin link can you post it again please?04:40
Blue1gaelfx: this looks funny:  (II) NVIDIA GLX Module  260.19.06  Mon Sep 13 04:54:41 PDT 201004:40
nkdoodwalyeah right click04:41
gaelfxfunny haha or funny....?04:41
nogopksadiq: are there many spies in your country?04:41
coz_Blue1,  what looks funny04:41
tejashttp://pastebin.com/wwiKjA9804:41
coz_nkdoodwal,  सही डेस्कटॉप पर क्लिक करें?04:41
Blue1coz_: module 260?04:41
nkdoodwalbut i can't understand that typical hindi04:41
gaelfxBlue1: yeah, I installed the latest driver from NVidia via PPA04:41
coz_Blue1,  that sounds like the driver version04:42
coz_tejas,  what are you compiling?04:42
gaelfxBlue1: perhaps not the brightest idea I've ever had, but it is the number of the driver version04:42
Blue1coz_: yes but I get:  (II) NVIDIA GLX Module  195.36.24  Thu Apr 22 19:52:00 PDT 201004:42
tejasits the utilities for my sound card drivers04:42
Blue1coz_: so where did version 260 come from?04:42
coz_Blue1,   o0  from same command?04:42
Blue1coz_: yup04:43
coz_Blue1,   did you use a ppa ?04:43
gaelfxcoz_: I used PPA04:43
Blue1coz_: no just standard repos04:43
Blue1gaelfx: ahh no wonder that looks funny...04:43
MooshiMuushitejas, For me, it looks like you're missing some files.04:43
coz_Blue1,  then that is wrong  let me check my installed driver hold on04:44
gaelfxBlue1: ;) I've also been trying to get HDMI audio to work04:44
MooshiMuushitejas, when you were compiling.04:44
Blue1coz_: thanks04:44
coz_Blue1,  the default nvidia-currnet in ubuntu lucid via jockey is 195.36.2404:44
MooshiMuushitejas, "panel.h usability... no"04:44
Chaos2358can someone tell me how to disable the feature in ubuntu 10.04 where it remembers everything typed in a search bar? its annoying04:44
coz_Blue1,  where the  260 came from would only be if you tried to install the driver manually or used the ppa04:44
pksadiqChaos2358 firefox?04:45
coz_tejas,  ah ok04:45
gaelfxthe ironic thing is, I think my HDMI audio would work if the audio weren't built-in to the graphics card I have, i.e. if there were an SPDIF pass-through, I wouldn't be having any problems with it04:45
Blue1coz_: ahh makes sense, I got what ever came down the pike from standard repos04:45
Kheopshi04:45
xanguaChaos2358: what searchbar are you exactly talking about¿ the browser¿ set it in the browser preferences04:45
Chaos2358pksadiq not just in firefox the laptop in general04:45
tejasmooshimusshi: i have no idea what im doing really there really where no good instructions I could find to do this I just unpaked everything that was downloaded and installed everything this is the only thing that wont04:46
coz_tejas,   i would go over to both the #alsa channel and the #pulsaudio channel and ask there04:46
wrektwhere are the sound settings on 10.04? are they only in system>prefs>sound? bec in my 8.10 there were many more options. im unable to get my new webcams mic working04:46
Chaos2358xangua its not just a browser its the whole pc like it remembers stuff i typed in the music folder when searching in the picture folder too04:46
KheopsI want to resize a partition and I have some data on It, It's safe to do the resizing process ?04:46
MooshiMuushitejas, I'm guessing it asked you to do the "./configure" commands, right?04:46
tejasmooshimusshi: yes04:47
Blue1Kheops: yes, but I'd backup first.  always have a path back to the way it was, before you mess it up.04:47
coz_Blue1,  when you open   nvidia-settings    which driver is actually in use?04:47
MooshiMuushitejas, Have you downloaded the build essential?04:47
KheopsBlue1: I can't back up 1000 GB :)04:47
coz_a terabyte?04:47
Kheopsmhm04:48
tejasmooshimusshi: no clue04:48
gaelfxtejas: I'm not sure if this is what you're trying to do, but did you try installing the alsa backports module? it will get you the latest alsa, if that's what you're after04:48
Chaos2358any ideas?04:48
Blue1Kheops: then do so at your own risk04:48
MooshiMuushitejas, copy and paste this into the terminal. "sudo apt-get install build-essential"04:48
Blue1coz_: 195.36.2404:48
MooshiMuushitejas, without the quotes.04:48
KheopsBlue1: how I must resizing ?04:48
tejasmooshimusshi: third day trying to use linux04:48
KheopsBlue1: To keep the data safe..04:48
MooshiMuushitejas, I see.04:48
coz_Blue1,  ok  that is right....what was the origianl issue you posted?04:48
Blue1Kheops: you can use a livecd an gparted - but I'd backup the data first, but then that's me.04:48
coz_original even04:48
MooshiMuushitejas, It takes time to get use to Ubuntu ;)04:48
Blue1coz_: you asked for version number for nvidia04:49
Ageless_Strangerwill ubuntu be able to connect to the internet through a windows computer with ics on?04:49
MooshiMuushitejas, Anyway, download the build essential.04:49
KheopsBlue1: I know that..04:49
nkdoodwalhelp, on every startup my computer tells that your windows manager not working and my title bar and workspace removed04:49
bullgard4In Rhythmbox I made a playlist for an album, but the titles appear in it in an inverted order. How can I fix that?04:49
KheopsBlue1: But..I asked you what is the size..that he will let me resize04:49
coz_Blue1,  ah sorry ... I think I am on way too many channels doing support  :)04:49
KheopsBlue1: All and only free memory ?04:49
Blue1Kheops: what ever you want --04:49
tejasmooshimuushi: I must have for something says 0 newly installed o upgraded04:50
KheopsBlue1: I want to take the free memory and make a new partition.04:50
MooshiMuushitejas, hmm.04:50
trismtejas: panel.h is in libncurses5-dev04:50
pksadiqtejas also do apt-get install ncurses-dev to do make04:50
Blue1Kheops: livecd and gparted will let you resize a partition04:50
KheopsBlue1: I already know that..04:50
Blue1Kheops: sorry I am not understanding your question then.04:51
nkdoodwalhelp, on every startup my computer tells that your windows manager not working and my title bar and workspace removed04:51
MooshiMuushitejas, Then I guess I don't know.04:51
KheopsBlue1:I Asked you If I will resize a partition full off data..but he has a lot of free space..04:51
KheopsBlue1: how Gpartet will act ?04:51
pksadiqnkdoodwal it was insane removing the compiz04:51
Chaos2358can someone please tell me how to get my laptop to stop remembering searches? not just in the browser but if i search something in my muci folder it gives me that as a suggestion when trying to search in other folders04:52
KheopsBlue1: That's my question..04:52
icarus-cKheops, depends on the file system04:52
MooshiMuushitejas, go to the channels that coz_ suggested.04:52
Jon--I get a connection refused in ChatZilla on an IRC using port 6667.. I know it's not related to Ubuntu but I figure someone could give me a quick answer. Any idea why? It opens fine on a Ubuntu laptop of mine on the same network.04:52
MooshiMuushitejas, "i would go over to both the #alsa channel and the #pulsaudio channel and ask there"04:52
Blue1Kheops: it will resize the partition, and move data.  resizing is  VERY time consuming - can take hours....04:52
nkdoodwalpksadiq: so now??04:52
Kheopsicarus-c: ext304:52
Kheopsicarus-c: only data.04:52
tejasmooshimuushi: that last one looks like its installing something04:52
pksadiqnkdoodwal reinstall compiz04:53
KheopsBlue1: I don't want to move data.04:53
lun0after 1 to 5 mins system booted the wireless logitech keyboard and mouse hangs, to computer connected reciever.04:53
Blue1Kheops: it will move what needs moving, no way to avoid it...04:53
MooshiMuushitejas, the last one?04:53
icarus-cKheops, typically the underly file system resize tool would move data of the region to shrink to somewhere else04:53
lun0but system keeps working04:53
KheopsBlue1:I want to take the free space from the partition..and make a new one04:53
Blue1Kheops: asked and answered.04:53
Kheopsicarus-c: I don't want to move data..04:54
tejasapt-get install ncurses-dev but now I get a different error04:54
icarus-cKheops, say you want to shrink the last 10GB,  it would move any data sitting there to somewhere else.04:54
MooshiMuushitejas, There's is an easy way to reply. Type in "mooshi" then hit "tab".04:54
MooshiMuushitejas, Shortcut ;)04:54
Kheopsicarus-c: why he move the data, if I want to take only the free space ?!04:54
Jon--I get a connection refused in ChatZilla on an IRC using port 6667.. I know it's not related to Ubuntu but I figure someone could give me a quick answer. Any idea why? It opens fine on a Ubuntu laptop of mine on the same network.04:54
icarus-cKheops, you don't get it... say you have a 20GB ext3 file system, even if you only have 100MB used, the data actually span across the whole file system phyiscally04:55
pksadiqtejas what's the error?04:55
tejasMooshiMuushi, thanks04:55
Kheopsicarus-c: pffff04:55
tejaspksadiq, ill pastebin it one sec04:55
Kheopsicarus-c: and where I will find the data ?!04:55
icarus-cKheops, that design is to avoid file fragmentation04:55
icarus-cKheops, you don't.  the file system handle it04:55
MooshiMuushitejas, http://pastebin.com/wwiKjA9804:55
Kheopsicarus-c: pffff but I need that data...04:55
wrekthey does anyone know how i mite be able to get my microphone attached to logitech quckcam pro to work. the device i s listed as one that "just works" woth 10.0404:55
MooshiMuushitejas, That was the link you gave me ;)04:55
icarus-cKheops, the file system stuff is transparent to user04:56
MooshiMuushipksadiq, http://pastebin.com/wwiKjA9804:56
Kheopsicarus-c: I don't want to move the data..I just want to take te free space from the partition and make a new one.04:56
pksadiqtejas sorry I can't use pastbin because such sites are not well working on my slow connection and too on my browser links04:56
Kheopsicarus-c: how can I do this ?04:56
icarus-cKheops, just resize it04:56
pksadiqtejas sorry I can't use pastbin because such sites are not well working on my slow connection and too on my browser links or links2 or lunx04:56
Kheops:)))))))))))))))))04:56
pksadiqtejas sorry I can't use pastbin because such sites are not well working on my slow connection and too on my browser links or links2 or lynx04:56
icarus-cKheops, file system handle all the underly stuff for ya04:56
Kheopsicarus-c: I want my data to be clasified..04:57
MooshiMuushitejas, right click his name and hit "Open Dialog File"04:57
bazhangKheops, classified?04:57
icarus-cKheops, that "move data" thingy i mentioned is done transparently within the file system,  not moving to another disk or what.04:57
Kheopsyes bazhang04:57
bazhangKheops, explain04:57
nkdoodwalpksadiq: one thing after installing ubuntu i m not able to reinstall linux/windows04:57
KheopsI don't want to spread...04:58
coz_Kheops,  you want these  password protected?04:58
pksadiqnkdoodwal can U boot windows?04:58
KheopsI want the filles remain there..and just take the free space..and do what I want to do with all this Free space.04:58
nkdoodwalpksadiq: no04:58
Kheopscoz_: no04:58
coz_ok04:59
coz_I am confused04:59
pksadiqMooshiMuushi it seems you did not install libncurses5-dev04:59
KheopsAll I want Is to know If I will lose some data..04:59
KheopsIf I will resize..04:59
Kheopsto take the free space..04:59
* Blue1 stands in line behind coz_04:59
bullgard4In Rhythmbox I made a playlist for an album, but the titles appear in it in an inverted order. How can I fix that?04:59
KheopsOr I will be able to find the files..04:59
bazhang!enter | Kheops04:59
ubottuKheops: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!04:59
icarus-cKheops, if you want to resize a file system, just do it.  if you wonder how it is done technically, read resize2fs documentation05:00
pksadiqnkdoodwal what is the error?05:00
nkdoodwalit doesnot load bootmanager , it start normally05:00
pksadiqnkdoodwal if you can't boot anything you may need to reinstall windows first and then ubuntu05:01
Kheopsicarus-c: If I have a partition with 1000 GB and just 800 Used and 200 free and I will do a resize to take the 200 GB what it will happens ?05:01
h4x07Ryen: u there dude?05:01
icarus-cKheops, actually the theory could be very simple.  say your file system allocates 5 blocks on disk  A,B,C,D,E  .  block A,B,D,E are used.  now you want to resize to 4 blocks (A,B,C,D)  so the data in Block E will be moved to block C05:01
Jon--I get a connection refused in ChatZilla on an IRC using port 6667.. I know it's not related to Ubuntu but I figure someone could give me a quick answer. Any idea why? It opens fine on a Ubuntu laptop of mine on the same network.05:02
nkdoodwalbut problem is this i am not able to install anyone05:02
Kheopsicarus-c: I see your point but on the block C It's not enough space.05:02
nkdoodwalpksadiq: but problem is this i am not able to install anyone05:02
icarus-cKheops, um... block size are even for the whole file system05:02
tejaspksadiq, did you look at the dialog window with the paste in it?05:02
icarus-cKheops, like 4k05:02
KheopsI see05:03
Kheopsso05:03
icarus-c<Kheops> icarus-c: If I have a partition with 1000 GB and just 800 Used and 200 free and I will do a resize to take the 200 GB what it will happens ?   <--  your file system will be shrinked by about 200GB  :)05:03
Kheops:)05:03
nkdoodwalpksadiq: it doesnot take boot from cd/dvd/usb05:03
pksadiqtejas also install gettext05:03
pksadiqnkdoodwal can You open BIOS?05:04
Kheopsicarus-c: I see.05:04
Kheopsicarus-c: and the rest of 800 GB will remain untouched ?05:04
icarus-cKheops, yes.05:04
tejaspksadiq, really new to linux what command to do that?05:04
Kheopsicarus-c: and on the same partition ?05:04
nkdoodwalpksadiq: i am working on same computer so little bit later i reconnect with you05:05
Kheops?05:06
icarus-cKheops, yes05:06
pksadiqpksadiq do sudo apt-get install gettext05:06
Kheopsicarus-c: Thanks.05:06
pksadiqtejas do sudo apt-get install gettext05:06
icarus-cKheops, that is the whole point of resizing file system/partition after all05:06
Kheopsicarus-c: And I can't resize more than I have right ?05:06
icarus-cKheops, of course05:06
Kheopsto avoid data losing05:07
Kheopsperfect.05:07
Kheops:P05:07
Kheopsmany thanks :)05:07
icarus-cKheops, oh but aware that resizing such a large partition takes time05:07
KheopsI'm feeling more safety :)05:07
Kheopsnp icarus-c05:07
icarus-cKheops, since it is moving data around behind the scene05:07
Kheopsmore than a back-up I don't think so :)05:07
pksadiqtejas you may also visit https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+question/8156105:08
icarus-cKheops, oh but any partitioning operation come at certain risk05:08
AlbertoPKheops: what do you use to resize?05:08
Kheopsicarus-c: It's only 800 GB to move05:08
icarus-cKheops, it works 99% of time, but can fail due to many reason05:08
icarus-cKheops, like power cut, faulty disk, or a comet impact05:08
tukadafoondayHey guys, whats a good theme i should install onto into my gnome?05:08
pksadiqtejas check the bottom part of the site05:08
Kheopsicarus-c: There are only Data..no file system05:08
Kheopsicarus-c: data only, music, video.05:09
KheopsAlbertoP: Live CD05:09
icarus-ctukadafoonday, my personal favourite is equinox05:09
AlbertoPKheops: well if those data are written on a disk... you have a filesystem05:09
KheopsAlbertoP: Gparted.05:09
tukadafoondaythanks icarus-c05:09
icarus-cAlbertoP, oooo no you could of course store data on disk without a file system :)05:09
AlbertoPKheops: well backup, and be *careful*05:09
tukadafoondayI will have a look at it.05:09
icarus-cAlbertoP, that's what real hacker does :P05:09
Kheopshmm AlbertoP: yes but I mean data on music and video..are data..not data system05:10
Kheops:)05:10
icarus-cdd ftw05:10
AlbertoPicarus-c: yuck!05:10
KheopsAlbertoP: It's a force term.05:10
KheopsAlbertoP: I can lose data during this long process of resizing ? :)05:10
icarus-cAlbertoP, and you could  hexedit /dev/sda :)05:10
AlbertoPKheops: ohhh yes you can05:10
Kheopshmmmm or I can't.05:11
Kheopsright ?05:11
tukadafoondayand what is the best dock to use? I have seen cairo and avant, I personally liked Avant more than Cairo... any others i should give a look?05:11
icarus-cKheops, yes!  beware of mother, she often tend to shut off your computer at critical time05:11
AlbertoPKheops: it is perfectly possible :)05:11
KheopsIn state of formating I will asume this risk.05:11
Kheops:)05:11
AlbertoPnope05:11
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Kheopsicarus-c: you're funny but you're right about power crash..05:12
Kheops:)05:12
KheopsIt's not my mum, It's the Electric Power Company :)05:12
bullgard4In Rhythmbox I made a playlist for an album, but the titles appear in it in an inverted order. How can I fix that?05:12
AlbertoPKheops: during a resize, depending on the user approach, you manipulate the structure of the filesystem, which means you might damage it, and be unable to retrieve your data05:12
pksadiqtukadafoonday it is very nice to use e17 along with ecomorph and other plugins very charming, I like the best05:12
AlbertoPso it's not only "during formatting"05:13
nkdoodwalpksadiq: yeah i opened my bios05:13
KheopsAlbertoP: I understand..05:13
KheopsAlbertoP: But what can I do instate of Backup ?05:13
pksadiqnkdoodwal then did you changed first boot device?05:14
AlbertoPKheops: nothing05:14
KheopsAlbertoP: :)05:14
nkdoodwalpksadiq: it is cd/dvd05:14
KheopsAlbertoP: keep the data there till my end of my life ?05:14
pksadiqnkdoodwal still not booting?05:15
nkdoodwalyeah05:15
Eighteensquestion, I got a system that will boot the live cd, but i have to choose options [x] acpi=off, [x] noapic, [x] nolapic, and [x] nomodeset, then it will boot the live cd, and lets me install it, install said sucessful, but then when i reboot, i get 'try booting with noapic' and i've tried booting, holding escape, 'e' to edit the highlighted kernel, and add the options, but no luck, Can anyone help?05:15
Kheopsicarus-c: How I must resize, what is your advice about..05:15
pksadiqnkdoodwal now can you reinstall ubuntu?05:15
icarus-cKheops, just resize. it is very safe. at least the software is05:16
txwikingerhow can I disable the caching for usb writing?05:16
Kheopsicarus-c: To resize all the free memory or to take about 198 GB from 200 GB ?05:16
nkdoodwalno because boot manager not loading05:16
KheopsIt's matters ?05:16
icarus-cKheops, what do you mean...05:16
icarus-cfree memory?05:16
Kheopsicarus-c: mhm05:16
pksadiqif you can use your BIOS to boot from CD or USB you can induce without BIOS support Using bootmanagers Like Plop Boot manager , visit www.plop.at/en/bootmanager.html05:17
pksadiqif you cant5 use your BIOS to boot from CD or USB you can induce without BIOS support Using bootmanagers Like Plop Boot manager , visit www.plop.at/en/bootmanager.html05:17
Kheopsicarus-c: It's more risky if I will resize to the full free memory ?05:17
icarus-cKheops, what you actually want to achieve05:18
Kheopshmm05:18
Kheopsicarus-c: It is much better to resize 198 GB from 200 free ?05:18
icarus-cKheops, i thought you want to resize from 1TB to 800GB05:18
Kheopsicarus-c: nop05:18
icarus-cKheops, oh you mean extending? that is a real piece of cake05:19
Kheopsicarus-c: hmmm05:19
Kheopsicarus-c: I don't think It's extending05:19
icarus-cKheops, that will just change partition table a bit,  then change file system metadata. without even touching your data05:19
icarus-coops05:19
nkdoodwalpksadiq: this time it started booting process normally05:20
icarus-cKheops, you mean 200GB -> 2GB ?...05:20
Kheopsicarus-c: From 800 GB I want to take 200 GB that are free.05:20
pksadiqnkdoodwal k05:20
pksadiqnkdoodwal then, so what is the help do you do need>05:20
pksadiq?05:20
Kheopsicarus-c: And then I will make a new partition with 200 GB :)05:20
icarus-cKheops, so you have 800GB total,  600GB used (hence 200GB free).  and you want to resize 800GB -> 600GB ?05:20
Kheopsicarus-c: Taken from the 1000 GB 800 GB..05:21
Kheopsthere are 898G -> 562G Used -> 291G Free05:21
nkdoodwalpksadiq: no thnks a lot for help05:21
Kheopsnow clear ?05:21
Blue1as the bottom of the hudson05:21
nkdoodwalpksadiq: it started normally05:22
pksadiqnkdoodwal Welcome :) skype me at pksadiq05:22
icarus-cKheops, you know what, just tell gparted what you want, it will tell you it can be done or not :)05:22
shamezwhat are good python books with socket programming?05:22
Kheopsicarus-c: do you understand me ?05:22
icarus-cKheops, it won't let you shrink size more than you used05:22
nkdoodwalpksadiq: ok05:22
bullgard4Eighteens: Probably edit in /boot/grub/menu.lst a line that starts with 'kernel' (without a leading #), which includes the path to the Linux kernel image and the boot parameters.05:22
icarus-cKheops, i think i got you 70%05:23
Kheopsicarus-c: so It's a resizing not an extending05:23
SabayonUserhi friends i have an old mac ibook  g3 ver 2 (30 GB hdd, 128 mb ram)...which version of ubuntu do you recommend me to load?05:23
TiKbullgard4: the file to edit is /etc/default/grub (for grub2)05:23
Kheopsicarus-c: but also I can use move05:23
Kheopsicarus-c: right ?05:23
icarus-cSabayonUser, lubuntu.05:23
bullgard4TiK: Don't hekp me but please help Eighteens.05:23
Kheopsicarus-c: It's same like resizing but you specify the value for Free Space Preceding05:24
pksadiq!lubuntu05:24
ubottulubuntu is a project to create a derivative of Ubuntu using the LXDE desktop environment. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu05:24
Eighteensoh please do :)05:24
icarus-cSabayonUser, i would go without a desktop environment though. like use a Window Manager based setup05:24
TiKbullgard4: well you are wrong that file is auto generated and will be overwritten05:24
shamezwhat are good python books with socket programming?05:24
icarus-cshamez, #python05:24
SabayonUserbut i heard there is a separate powerpc version available05:24
bullgard4s/hekp/help/05:24
icarus-cKheops, yes you can move05:24
Flynsarmy1Is it worth upgrading to meercat now while the RC is out if i'm on intel hardware (laptop) with nvidia gpu. or should i wait for the final build?05:24
SabayonUsera separate powerpc version for netbook05:25
icarus-cKheops, but it would take a VERY long time...05:25
Eighteensthank you bullgard for that pleasant display of kindness in putting me before you05:25
pksadiqshamez check for diveintopython05:25
Kheopsicarus-c: but I don't understand very much the you specify "the value for Free Space Preceding"05:25
bullgard4TiK: Don't help me but please help <Eighteens.05:25
nkdoodwalcoz-: my wifi  is not working in ubuntu05:25
TiKEighteens: what was you problem with grub2?05:25
icarus-cKheops, moving in gparted is just dragging05:25
icarus-cKheops, have you ever look at gparted?  the graph should explain05:25
xiongCan window movement be scripted?05:25
Kheopsicarus-c: hmmm the move It's the same like resize ?05:25
icarus-cKheops, no.05:25
Kheopsicarus-c: of course.05:25
nkdoodwal my wifi  is not working in ubuntu05:26
gino_Hello, could someone give me some info on how to run a bash script on startup? Ubuntu 10.04 LTS05:26
Eighteensok i got 10.04 to install, but i had to boot the live cd, and choose 'noapic with f6 options, and nolapic, and acpi=off and nomodeset05:26
shamezpksadiq, what about o'reilly books?05:26
sebikul!wifi05:26
ubottuWireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs05:26
SabayonUsernkdoodwal do u have NEtwork manager or wicd?05:26
Kheopsicarus-c: I'm pretty confused about resizing and moving..05:26
Eighteensinstall completed, but after reboot it wouldnt go05:26
Eighteensi'm in the live cd now, and can see the drive it installed to05:26
Kheopsicarus-c: which It's better for my wish ?05:27
Blue1Eighteens: what exactly is happening?  ubuntu only, or dual boot, or?05:27
Eighteensi tried escaping, and 'e' to edit the highlighted kernel, but it didnt work05:27
shamezpksadiq, plus i have already read diveintopython ..not very thorough on socket programming..05:27
TiKEighteens: edit /etc/default/grub and add those ines where it says "queit splash"05:27
pksadiqshamez oh, really! but O'reilly books are mostely not free05:27
icarus-cKheops, moving is keeping same file system size but put on different physical location on the disk05:27
icarus-cKheops, resizing is about changing the size of the file system05:27
nkdoodwalSabayonUser:  network manager/wicd?????????05:27
icarus-cKheops, resizing & moving can be mixed though05:27
Eighteensok let me have a look05:27
Flynsarmy1any omgwtfbbq style bugs in the meercat RC that would make you recommend i wait for the final build before installing it on an intel laptop with nvidia gpu?05:27
samodha#ubuntu-br-ba na rede irc.freenode.org05:27
shamezpksadiq, i dont mind buying..possibly which book would you recomend?05:28
TiKEighteens: on the mounted harddrive05:28
TiKFlynsarmy1: I run 10.1005:28
Kheopsicarus-c: I understand that If I will use move to have free unused space for a new partition It will dragg my filles on another partition ?05:28
Flynsarmy1TiK: are the noveau drivers supporting 3D yet?05:29
icarus-cKheops, no........... your file will ALWAYS stick to the file system05:29
Eighteensok got the /etc/default/grub file open in gedit05:29
TiKFlynsarmy1: i run invidia as well05:29
icarus-cKheops, the file system move, they move05:29
TiKEighteens: from the mounted hard drive or the live cd's one?05:29
Eighteensthe mounted drive05:29
TiKok05:29
TiKEighteens: 1 sec05:30
Kheopsicarus-c: what are the file system that you refer ?05:30
icarus-cKheops, you don't have to even think about your data05:30
Eighteensthanks so much for helping, i was looking all over the place for this file05:30
Flynsarmy1TiK: proprietry or OSS drviers?05:30
Eighteensin order to boot the live cd, i had to add like 4 options from the f6 menu05:30
TiKprop05:30
Eighteensacpi=off, noapic, nolapic, nomodeset05:30
TiKEighteens: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT= add here05:30
nkdoodwalTiK: my wifi  is not working in ubuntu  10.0405:31
Eighteensdo i use spaces between the commands05:31
icarus-cKheops, file system is the data structure that store & manage your files on storage.05:31
Kheopsicarus-c: I don't understand the move command It says that It's like resizing command..05:31
pksadiqshamez chesk small tutorials online linke in http://www.evolt.org/node/60276        http://www.prasannatech.net/2008/07/socket-programming-tutorial.html      tp://www.slideshare.net/didip/socket-programming-in-python etc05:31
TiKEighteens: yah spaces not ,'s05:32
Kheopswith a small difference..05:32
EighteensTik, thank you so much, i wish i could repay you in some way, Great help!05:32
rusivinkdoodwal What mfg/model laptop do you have?05:32
icarus-cKheops, say it knows that /home/bill/favourite-porn.avi  is stored on  block  1000 to 1000000  on the disk physically05:32
TiKEighteens: dont worry about it :P05:32
nkdoodwalrusivi:  i am having dell vostro 151005:32
icarus-cKheops, i think the word "move" & "resize" explain enough by itself05:32
Eighteensi don't mind holding escape when booting and choosing the drive i want to boot, but it would be nice if it was on a menu, like when you use the wubi loader, how it writes to boot.ini05:33
Kheops...05:33
TiKEighteens: you might have to do that 1 more time and then run "update-grub"05:33
TiKidk05:33
icarus-cKheops, so in the bill's example,  favourite-porn.avi on block 1000-100000 is the data05:33
vatsalahi my netbook is unable to connect to wifi when it is running on battery05:34
KheopsI read..the gparted manual..05:34
icarus-cKheops, you ask the file system for favourite-porn.avi,   the file system gives you data on block 1000-10000005:34
Kheopsdon't understand the move..05:34
Eighteensok, so the line reads  GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash acpi=off noapic nolapic nomodeset"05:34
icarus-cKheops, ok... now place your phone on desk05:34
EighteensTik, that look ok05:34
vatsalaI haev a BCM4312 n/w controller - and i installed the bcm43xx-fwcutter tool05:35
icarus-cKheops, let your phone now be at  place A.    now move it to the right by 10cm to place B05:35
Kheopsicarus-c: k..I understand05:35
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TiKEighteens: yep reboot and try it you might have to put those opens in but onc its up run update-grub05:35
nkdoodwalrusivi: ..:-)05:35
vatsalais anyone facing a similar problem?05:35
TiKand it should do it everytime05:35
Kheopsicarus-c: but I don't understand with partitions..05:35
nkdoodwalrusivi: . :-)05:35
Kheopsicarus-c: here says..It's just like resizing, except that you specify the value for Free Space Preceding in the options.05:35
icarus-cKheops, now i rephrase that:  your file system was starting on block A, size of your phone, and now you move the whole file system to block B05:35
Eighteensok, thanks again, be back in 2shakes of a lambs tail05:36
Eighteensexit05:36
icarus-c(block refer to the starting block of the file system05:36
Kheopswhy I shuld to that ?05:36
nkdoodwalvatsala: yeah me05:36
Kheopsshould*05:36
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Kheopsdo*..05:36
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icarus-cKheops, free space preceding is like cutting left side of your phone to "free" some space05:36
rusivinkdoodwal: Has the wifi ever worked either in 10.04, prior Ubuntu, or in Maverick?05:36
icarus-cKheops, "free space after"  means cut right side of your phone to free some space on the right05:37
Kheopsbut where It's going the moved space ?05:37
vatsalankdoodwal: ok, how do it solve it - i found a work around for a realtek chipset but not yet for broadcom05:37
nkdoodwalyes in ubuntu 9.1005:37
icarus-cKheops, move is about displacement, moving your phone05:37
Kheopsbut where ?05:37
icarus-cKheops, where you tell it to...05:37
KheopsI see...05:37
* Blue1 thinks icarus-c has the patience of job....05:37
icarus-cKheops, see that bar where you could drag the partition around in gparted?05:37
pksadiqicarus-c are you jocking?05:38
KheopsBlue1: you're rude ? :)05:38
nkdoodwalrusivi:  wifi driver not installing05:38
icarus-cBlue1, saturday :)05:38
icarus-cpksadiq, i can't think of better way to teach05:38
bazhangKheops, this is going to take a long time. best to get started.05:38
Kheopsicarus-c: I see05:38
pksadiqicarus-c Great, Keep it Up05:38
icarus-cKheops, dragging that bar is like moving your phone..05:38
Kheopsbazhang: thanks for whishes.05:39
rusivinkdoodwal: Ok, your saying when you click System -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers it does not install?05:39
bazhangKheops, any data you don't backup is not important. always do backups before such sensitive operations.05:39
nkdoodwalrusivi: it show in h/w driver but give error message05:40
KheopsI don't understand..05:40
Kheopslook at this http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/gparted.html05:40
rusivinkdoodwal: Can you copy/paste the error message?05:40
Kheopsscroll down to Task 605:40
bazhangKheops, make a back up copy.  just in case.05:40
Kheopsand tell me what he did.05:40
Kheopsbazhang: I can't there are many data files..05:41
nkdoodwalrusivi: yeah05:41
bazhangKheops, then you deem them unimportant.05:41
rusivinkdoodwal: please do so05:41
Kheopsbazhang: If I could do the backup I didn't come here k ?05:42
vatsalarusivi: my broadcoam b43 wireless drivers are installed but I dont know if I have missed something else05:42
icarus-cKheops, i think what he meant is moving is like resizing because it can be done by changing free space preceding & following  at the same time05:42
KheopsI realy don't understand...http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/gparted.html task 605:42
icarus-cKheops, if you got gparted running, you drag the bar around, you will see the value of free space preceding &following change together05:43
vatsalarusivi: let me paste the o/p of iwconfig and ifconfig from my netbook a05:43
Kheopscan you explain to me task 6 ?05:43
nkdoodwalrusivi: it asks to look file named /var/log/jockey.log05:43
Kheopswhat he did..05:43
icarus-cKheops, just very simple math,  add some free space in front, minus some after, if what you added & minuses are the same, it is "move"05:43
rusivinkdoodwal: ok one moment please05:43
icarus-cKheops, if you don't understand that, ignore he says "just like resizing"05:44
x-izzyi need help in installing kopete05:44
zainThe file '/home/zain/.wine/dosdevices/c:/users/zain/My Documents/Downloads/idman519.exe' is not marked as executable.  If this was downloaded or copied form an untrusted source, it may be dangerous to run.  For more details, read about the executable bit.05:44
icarus-cKheops, if you insist to understand it but you don't,  just run gparted, play around with the bar you will see05:44
KheopsI see..05:44
Kheopsk thanks05:44
Kheops:P05:44
nkdoodwalrusivi: it shows following message05:45
nkdoodwalrusivi: 2010-10-01 10:47:05,410 DEBUG: BroadcomWLHandler enabled(): kmod disabled, bcm43xx: blacklisted, b43: enabled, b43legacy: enabled05:45
rusivinkdoodwal: have you been trying fwcutter?05:45
zainhow to slove that05:45
zainThe file '/home/zain/.wine/dosdevices/c:/users/zain/My Documents/Downloads/idman519.exe' is not marked as executable.  If this was downloaded or copied form an untrusted source, it may be dangerous to run.  For more details, read about the executable bit.05:45
nkdoodwalrusivi: no05:45
rusivinkdoodwal: Ok, one thing that is helpful is has your wifi issue worked in either a prior version of Ubuntu or in Maverick?05:46
icarus-czain, even idman519.exe is executable, linux can't run it anyway05:46
zain..05:46
zainI have wine05:46
icarus-czain, you still have to run it like "wine idman519.exe"05:46
icarus-czain, and you could still run it like that WITHOUT executatble right05:46
vatsalankdoodwal: wht chipset and device drive did you use in your prior Ubuntu version05:47
zainI right click it and open with wine loadeer05:47
zainbut it seems block05:47
tejaspksadiq, well I got ./configure to work but no I get this /bin/bash: xmlto: command not found when I try to make05:47
litropyHello, all. Instead of describing my issue here, I've pastebin'ed it. Please see: http://pastebin.com/K8uMbsUw05:47
pksadiqzain right click on the file > properties > permisions and tick execute05:47
nkdoodwalrusivi: yes in ubuntu 9.1005:47
zainthanks pksadiq05:48
icarus-cexecute permission has no use for wine05:48
pksadiqzain Welcome05:48
icarus-cpksadiq, if you can't run "wine blah.exe"  without execute permission,  but you could  with execute permisison, let me know :P05:49
pksadiqtejas sudo apt-get install xmlto05:50
icarus-cit is just like you can also run a bash script without executable permission with  "bash apple.sh"05:50
icarus-cjust that you can't  ./apple.sh  when it got no execute right05:50
tejascd05:50
pksadiqicarcus-c I'm not the Architect of Wine. :)05:51
icarus-cspeaking of wine, i should get a bear05:51
pksadiqicarus-c I haven't yet drunk wine or Bear, It's Haram for me as According to our  Ethical Laws05:52
icarus-cpksadiq, sorry for mentioning beer then :P05:52
pksadiqicarus-c I Sorry, I meant Beer05:53
greezmunkeyubudtu05:53
zain:S05:54
zainI feel like using linuxmint05:54
pksadiqicarus-c So now get back to Our Moto," Live and Help Live"05:54
usuariomm05:54
x-izzyhi05:54
icarus-czain, linux mint is just ubuntu with another theme plus mint menu as far as i know05:55
zainseems like more cool05:55
nowimprovedi am using ps3 eye and it is working with skype but not in flash, like stickam.com05:55
icarus-czain, maybe? i would rather just grab their theme if i like it05:55
zainnah05:56
icarus-czain, you could also put mint menu on ubuntu or any other distro if you like05:56
zainlinuxmint is pretty I think05:56
zain;)05:56
bazhang!ot > zain05:56
ubottuzain, please see my private message05:56
icarus-cjust a theme.........05:56
digital_1ubotto what's the pre-release channel name?05:57
digital_1Ubuntu 10.1005:57
bazhangdigital_1, #ubuntu+105:57
icarus-cdigital_1, #ubuntu+105:57
digital_1Thanks05:57
icarus-cdigital_1, see /topic next time05:57
digital_1What happened to ubottu?05:57
icarus-cdigital_1, it is just a bot05:58
icarus-cenough google is not clever enough to answer "what's the pre-release channel name?" i suppose05:58
barnacles10Anyone here with android sdk experience?05:59
bullgard4Why are there installed on my computer the DEB program packages grub (version 0.97) and grub-common (version 1.98) at the same time?06:00
bazhangbarnacles10, try /msg alis list *android* for a support channel06:00
x-izzyi need help with installing kopete06:00
barnacles10thanks06:00
icarus-cbarnacles10, http://developer.android.com/sdk/installing.html06:00
x-izzyhelp06:01
FusionXi recently installed ubuntu on a partition on my hard disk, ubuntu overwrote the bootloader with GRUB, i don't have Windows bootloader anymore. How can i recover windows bootloader without the windows installation CD while keeping the GRUB bootloader with it?06:01
icarus-cx-izzy, apt-get install kopete ?06:01
tristan_FusionX you need a windows disk06:01
x-izzyi did that and i can't still find it in programs but when i try to do it again it says its installed06:01
tristan_if its 7 there is a little repair my installation thing06:01
tristan_otherwise a few commands from the recovery console06:01
tristan_its easy. google it06:01
FusionXtristan_: its windows XP06:01
greezmunkeytristan_: cant grub boot Windows?06:01
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tristan_yes.06:01
icarus-cx-izzy, but note that kopete uses KDE component intensively, running it on GNOME or other environment will use a lot more resources06:01
tristan_if it knows where it is06:01
icarus-cx-izzy, so Applications -> Internet -> Kopete ?06:02
greezmunkeytristan_: that shouldn't be too hard :)06:02
x-izzyits not there06:02
icarus-cx-izzy, or press Alt-F2 , enter kopete06:02
FusionXbut i'm planning to remove ubuntu some weeks later and it will also remove the GRUB and so i won't be able to boot at all06:02
x-izzyi am using GNOME06:02
barnacles10I've been there. I can get it working, but am having issues with things sticking06:02
tristan_yeah you just gotta06:02
zainwhat is mint irc ?06:02
zain:(06:02
tristan_hmm its like 2 commands06:02
icarus-cgreezmunkey, grub can't boot windows itself, but grub can chainload to windows boot loader06:02
bazhang!mintsupport > zain06:02
ubottuzain, please see my private message06:02
tristan_easy though.06:02
FusionX(I use Windows XP service pack 3) i recently installed ubuntu on a partition on my hard disk, ubuntu overwrote the bootloader with GRUB, i don't have Windows bootloader anymore. How can i recover windows bootloader without the windows installation CD while keeping the GRUB bootloader with it?06:03
greezmunkeyicarus-c: got it, thanks.06:03
icarus-cgreezmunkey, which means grub can ask windows boot loader to boot windows06:03
icarus-cFusionX, what is your other OS06:03
greezmunkeyFusionX: bootdisk.com may be of some help06:03
FusionXicarus-c : ubuntu and windows xp06:03
x-izzyit opened... thanks man but i can't find the icon so i have to always do that?06:03
tristan_FusionX: yes06:03
icarus-cFusionX, simply use that OS boot loader to take over the MBR then format your ubuntu install06:03
tristan_its like two commands from the recovery console06:03
tristan_dont make me google it for you06:04
icarus-cFusionX, so you would  run fixmbr or fixboot on Windows (i don't really know). then grub will no longer be your boot loader,  so you could format ubuntu06:04
litropyHello,, all. Please sewe my issue with gnome freezing here http://pastebin.com/K8uMbsUw06:04
tristan_icarus-c: is correct06:04
tristan_but google the exact commands06:04
icarus-ctristan_, what?! ubuntu doesn't even involve in the task06:05
icarus-ctristan_, it is all windows'06:05
FusionXho do i use bootdisc.com?06:05
icarus-cubuntu will just sit there and let Windows remove it06:05
icarus-cFusionX, i've just told you how...06:05
greezmunkeyFusionX: go there, and download what you need.06:05
icarus-cFusionX, ask windows folks how to fixmbr or stuff like that06:05
greezmunkeyFusionX: see icarus-c 's messages...06:05
icarus-cFusionX, what you want to do is actually not related to Ubuntu or Linux even06:06
tristan_icarus-c: its the xp boot disk an dcommand prompt :p06:06
icarus-cFusionX, i repeat,  to remove ubuntu,  you will need to use Windows to reinstall Windows' boot loader, then use Windows to format ubuntu's install06:06
icarus-cin contrast of how to remove Windows and install ubuntu :P06:07
FusionXicarus-c: ok i got it, thanks alot!06:07
rusivinkdoodwal: have you had a chance to check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx06:08
icarus-cx-izzy, kopete is a KDE stuff, it may not be compliant with GNOME's application category, so it may not appear in APplication->internet.   maybe in Other?06:09
icarus-cx-izzy, anyway, wouldn't Alt-F2 kopete be  faster :)06:09
icarus-cor the master way:  bind a keyboard shortcut to run kopete06:09
icarus-cx-izzy, between, how much more memory is used when you run kopete ?06:09
icarus-clike 100MB ?06:10
theta003help identify06:10
icarus-ctheta003, could you clarify a bit?06:10
phil_in_londontheta003   /msg nickserv help identify06:11
icarus-cahh!!! that06:11
x-izzyi don't really know how to check that06:11
icarus-cphil_in_london, how could you even think of nickserv just seeing "help identify" on a ubuntu support channel06:11
icarus-cx-izzy, gnome-system-monitor06:12
phil_in_londonicarus, been doing irc since hmm...well, never mind ;)06:12
phil_in_londonlets just say, first client was a telnet app :)06:12
theta003hi, i need help connecting to a wireless network06:12
theta003there is some permissions problem06:13
icarus-ctheta003, there should be a network icon on your panel in status area06:13
x-izzy23%06:13
theta003i installed wicd, got connected, got an ip06:13
icarus-cx-izzy, check that with & without kopete running to see the difference06:13
theta003icarus-c: when trying to ping, i get operation not permitted, even while using sudo06:13
icarus-ctheta003, what is the exact message06:14
phil_in_londontheta, what are you pinging? the router? the internet? yourself?06:14
theta003the router06:14
phil_in_londontheta, do you get the same message if you ping say google, or yourself?06:14
theta003i get "PING 192.168.1.255 "Operation Not Permitted"06:15
icarus-ctheta003, what is the exact "operation not permitted" message06:15
icarus-cand also try pinging google06:15
phil_in_londonit could simply be that the router is not responding to ping, its a parameter that can be set on most routers.06:15
theta003icarus-c: i didn't try that, but tried "nslookup www.google.com"06:16
theta003icarus-c: it times out06:16
scott__hello06:16
phil_in_londontheta, how about ping yourself.06:16
scott__does anyone know why my sound cuts out when i start picasa?06:16
theta003icarus-c: there are a lot of comps connected to the same router,  they are working perfectly fine06:16
greezmunkeytheta003: are you running a firewall?06:17
x-izzyits 21.7%06:17
theta003greezmunkey: i don't know06:17
x-izzyits 22% now06:17
theta003greezmunkey: i haven't done anything specific to enable a firewal06:17
greezmunkeytheta003: try sudo iptables -L see what comes up.06:17
theta003greezmunkey: theres a long list on O/P06:18
greezmunkeytheta003: that's it.06:19
theta003greezmunkey: unforunately at present I am on a differen comp, so can't copy-paste06:19
phil_in_londonscott, I get same thing, in my case its amount of ram on this p.o.s., only 1/2mb here.06:19
greezmunkeytheta003: you can flush iptables to see if that really is it.06:19
scott__really?06:19
scott__i have 2gb06:19
bullgard4Why are there installed on my computer the DEB program packages grub (version 0.97) and grub-common (version 1.98) at the same time?06:20
phil_in_londonscott, what about your sound card, has its own ram too?06:20
scott__using onboard sound06:20
theta003greezmunkey: how do i do that? i am a n00b06:20
phil_in_londonscott, yeah, that'll chew up some system ram.06:20
greezmunkeytheta003: sudo iptables -F06:20
phil_in_londonscott, when you start picassa, is it starting up showing folders of pictures?06:20
scott__no, just opening up picasa06:21
scott__i have a feeling that it has something to do with wine taking over06:21
theta003greezmunkey: after that06:21
phil_in_londonscott, well, there is that layer that wine is going to add to the whole process.06:21
scott__but after a min or so... i can play music just fine06:21
theta003greezmunkey: there was no O/P06:21
scott__while picasa is running06:21
greezmunkeytheta003: try your ping06:21
phil_in_londonscott, yeah, its ram allocation, some for wine, some for your sound card, once everybody's been dealt their hand its back on with the game.06:21
phil_in_londonscott, are there no alternatives to picassa you can use to eliminate the need for wine?06:22
theta003greezmunkey: same error: "ping: sendmsg: Operation not permitted"06:22
scott__i wish google would come out with a linux native butt..06:22
scott__but..06:22
greezmunkeytheta003: your firewall may complain, or rebuild the rules, check with sudo iptables -L again.06:22
scott__dont see that happening06:22
phil_in_londonscott, but is just an image management program no?06:23
scott__fspot dosent do the trick :-(06:23
phil_in_londonah, okay, you've investigated then :)06:23
theta003greezmunkey: only three table headings now, no info below that06:23
scott__well, i mainly use it to import from my digital cam06:23
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scott__videos and pictures, and its all neatly organized in picasa06:23
colt#irc.brokensphere.net #bibliotik-invites06:23
theta003greezmunkey: chain INPUT, chain FORWARD, chain  OUTPUT06:23
gb__ello06:23
greezmunkeytheta003: hmm...that's wierd.06:24
phil_in_londonscott, I wonder if there might be a way to startup wine at boot up so it don't chew up those cycles when you start picassa?06:24
greezmunkeytheta003: try ping 127.0.0.106:24
User_UnFriendlywhat's the discussion with iptables?06:24
scott__thats what id like06:24
icarus-cping icarus06:24
phil_in_londonI don't know myself, don't use wine at all.06:24
scott__u say u have the same issue?06:24
Blue1!pdf editor | blue106:24
theta003greezmunkey: same error06:24
phil_in_londonscott, I have same issue but its definitely due to lack of ram.06:24
User_UnFriendlyno i'm asking, i didn't hear the question06:24
scott__u are the first person ive ran into that had the same06:24
greezmunkeytheta003: are yo one that machine now?06:24
Blue1anyone know of a pdf editor OTHER then pdfedit, that actually works?06:24
phil_in_londonscott, wine starts with notepad added to it already right?06:24
theta003greezmunkey: nope, but its just next to me06:25
rusiviBlue1: Evince06:25
rusiviBlue1: Adobe Reader06:25
gb__Blue1: pdftk >> pdf toolkit06:25
scott__yes notepad is in there06:25
User_UnFriendlywine and iptables??!06:25
theta003greezmunkey: nope, buts its next to me06:25
rusiviBlue1: sorry dislexic Office w/ PDF Import06:25
User_UnFriendlyI second notepad is in there06:25
phil_in_londonscott, if you head over to System/Preferences/Startup maybe you could add either Wine or Notepad to your startup, maybe that will force at load at boot.06:25
Blue1rusivi: what I am looking for is something that would allow me to type my responses rather then handwriting.06:25
theta003greezmunkey: i mean i am connected to irc on a different one06:25
scott__ill see if my music cuts out while starting notepad06:25
rusiviBlue1: I have used OpenOffice w/ PDF Import add-on06:26
User_UnFriendlyman i'm confused on what is the question06:26
greezmunkeytheta003: ok, you _should_ be able to ping localhost. Try ping localhost...06:26
phil_in_londonscott, what I'm getting at is that the "cut" is probably happening while the system is allocating ram resources to Wine....if you could get that out of the way at boot, maybe it might occur only that once.06:26
gb__guys anyone got vmware player working on new ubuntu, do i need extra packages, i do have build-essential, anything else i need/06:26
User_UnFriendlygb__: you talking about maverick?06:27
scott__i c what u are saying06:27
Blue1rusivi: oo doesn't like pdf files can only export06:27
gb__User_UnFriendly: yes06:27
scott__notepad dosent make sound cut out06:27
phil_in_londonscott, but was wine already loaded during this boot?06:27
theta003greezmunkey: yep that works06:27
rusiviBlue1: One must install the "PDF Import" add-on i'll get the link for it06:27
User_UnFriendlygb__: i'm using maverick but i haven't tried it yet06:27
Blue1rusivi: ah thanks.06:27
User_UnFriendlyhave you had a problem?06:27
rusiviBlue1: http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/project/pdfimport06:27
scott__if i have music playing and i start picasa the sound goes out...  if i wait a minute i can start my music again and its fine06:28
theta003greezmunkey: i can access net via gprs on that machine06:28
Blue1rusivi: omw (on my way)06:28
scott__but if i start picasa again it cuts out again06:28
rusivi:)06:28
theta003greezmunkey: its only through the wlan0 interface that is creating problems06:28
greezmunkeytheta003: good, so what's happening is that your echo responses are being dropped, maybe by some other firewall - probably not an indication that there is anything wrong...06:28
phil_in_londonscott, same thing happens here with my rhythmbox, and it happens with any program of size, terminal don't do it nor gedit, but pretty much anything else including Chrome does.06:28
gb__User_UnFriendly: i had google for hwto vmware on ubuntu, found olf link which told  me to get some file, which i dont see in new system, it was on old ubuntu 8.10 linnk instruction page , was not sure on new06:28
demonsporkFFUUUU GOOOGLE: HOW DOES IT WORK06:29
phil_in_londonscott, oh, happens everytime, well my guess on the "load at boot" ain't gonna help then :(06:29
gb__scott whats the question and issue?06:29
scott__:-(06:29
scott__everytime i start up picasa my sound cuts out06:29
phil_in_londonscott, do you use the picassa alot?06:29
User_UnFriendlyhave you tried virtual box from sun?06:29
scott__but after about a min i start up music again its fine06:29
gb__you not running as sudo are you?06:29
AbhiJithi06:29
scott__yes i use picasa alot06:30
User_UnFriendlygb__: have you tried virtual box from sun?06:30
theta003greezmunkey: something weird happened, i dialed using wvdial to connect to gprs n/w while being connected to the wifi n/w, after disconnecting the gprs n/w, the wlan0 interface started to work immediately06:30
rusivigb__ I tried VMWare, I would more consider that if I was corporate admin, I use Oracle VirtualBox-OSE for personal use and it rocks.06:30
User_UnFriendlywhat up mawst06:30
scott__i switched from windows completely like 6months ago. and this is the last thing ive been "dealing with"06:30
phil_in_londonscott, lets say you start picassa, and just leave it running, does it cut sound when you simply switch back to it?06:30
gb__User_UnFriendly: yup i have , i wanted to try vmware player for a chance, always used virtuabox before06:30
theta003greezmunkey: my problem is solved, but haven't a clue why06:30
User_UnFriendlyvirtual box is the way to go06:30
User_UnFriendlyoh okay06:30
greezmunkeytheta003: reboot and start over, flushing the firewall rules probably had something to do with that.06:31
Blue1rusivi: ahh no instruction on how to install will continue looking06:31
gb__scot you not runnng picasa with sudo right /06:31
User_UnFriendlywhat's your problem with vmware06:31
theta003greezmunkey: k, thanks06:31
rusiviBlue1: let me check out Synaptic real quick06:31
jonrafkindI created a new ppa but I'm not exactly sure what to upload, am I uploading a source package for it to build or a binary package that I should build myself?06:31
scott__gb.. im not logged on as root06:31
scott__is that what u are asking?06:31
User_UnFriendlyyes06:31
Blue1rusivi: i have oo installed, but I can't figure out how to install the extension I loaded06:31
Blue1downloaded06:31
greezmunkeytheta003: if you get the same (no) connectivity after restarting, and then it works after flushing the iptables, then you know what needs to be addressed :)06:31
mawstYo06:32
User_UnFriendlygreezmunkey: you anygood with iptables06:32
User_UnFriendly?06:32
User_UnFriendlyyo mawst06:32
rusiviopenoffice.org-pdfimport06:32
theta003greezmunkey: yeah, i know what to do, but still don't get it why its required06:32
rusiviBlue1: you can install via synaptic openoffice.org-pdfimport06:32
AbhiJit(dont laugh) but how to exit vim?06:32
Blue1rusivi: k06:32
AbhiJit;)06:32
theta003greezmunkey: i will have to change some firewall rules to get it to work automatically?06:32
gb__scott try as normal user06:32
phil_in_londonscott, this picassa,  you're talking about wine and such, but can't you just visit http://picasaweb.google.com/06:32
scott__phil... u know what.. it does make the music cut out again06:33
gb__scott oh "not"06:33
gb__AbhiJit: hi06:33
User_UnFriendlyvim is great for not being to leave lol06:33
AbhiJit??06:33
greezmunkeyUser_UnFriendly: I get around, but unfortunately I have to drop off right now, it is Friday night :)06:33
Blue1rusivi: no, unhappy with that - installed, but won't open pdf file...06:33
AbhiJithello gb__06:33
phil_in_londonscott, what I'm wondering is why you are even running a picassa application at all?06:33
gb__AbhiJit:  press escape first, the shift key + z z06:33
scott__just from bringing up a picture06:33
User_UnFriendlylater then06:33
rusiviBlue1: Does it give you the opportunity to open the PDF file in OpenOffice Draw?06:34
scott__id love to get away from picasa, but havent found anything that does what it does06:34
gb__scott__: and whats is it?06:34
Blue1rusivi: not tried that...06:34
dendritehi06:34
phil_in_londonscott, thats strange, I just brought up picassa and it DID NOT stop my sound.06:34
dendritehows everyone doing06:34
rusiviBlue1: Typically the PDF Import extension opens PDFs in Draw06:34
phil_in_londonbut then, I just visited http://picasaweb.google.com/  I don't have an application installed.06:34
scott__i plug my digital camera in.. it imports everything(including videos) and organizes everything neatly06:34
Blue1rusivi: I have oo presentation/spreadsheet/wordprocessor06:35
User_UnFriendlyman i should have came here last night with an issue with a dlink adapter, but i figured it out06:35
phil_in_londonscott, AH, thats it, your digital camera has some kind of software with it?06:35
rusiviBlue1: Install Draw, that may be the deal breaker for PDF Import06:35
gb__AbhiJit: done?06:35
dendriteok general question. where can i find the 'source' code for most apps i install in ubuntu. for example.  the program 'qiv'. where can i find the source code after installing it from apt?06:35
AbhiJitgb__, stopped with ctrl z and then exited06:35
scott__no no, special software with my cam06:35
gb__AbhiJit: thats not the right way06:35
rusiviBlue1: Copying from Synaptic Description: "This package contains an extension to open PDF documents with06:36
rusiviOpenOffice.org Draw."06:36
phil_in_londonscott, is your video onboard like your audio?06:36
AbhiJitdendrite, to get the source code do apt-get source qiv06:36
AbhiJitgb__, yah but now i exited anyhow06:36
dendriteah ty. where would it download it after that?06:36
dendritedirectory i mean06:36
AbhiJitdendrite, in yoru current directory06:36
scott__video and sound onboard06:36
phil_in_londonscott, does your system's bios allow you to allocate ram to the video at boot up?06:36
Blue1rusivi: it's already instlaled let me see if I can bring it up.06:37
scott__im not sure06:37
gb__AbhiJit: next time nano document06:37
AbhiJitgb__, yah06:38
User_UnFriendlynano is awesome, why isn't it in fedora on install?06:38
scott__do you think the video is taking away too much from audio?06:38
icarus-cUser_UnFriendly, coz there is vim06:39
phil_in_londonscott, I'd have a look and see, its "possible" you could allocated ram to the video at boot. I think your problem is memory switching. Neither your audio card nor video card have their own ram so they're going to be messing with the swap file for it whenever required.06:39
scott__ohh.. and it sometimes cuts out. rarely.. but still does it when i play quakelive06:39
phil_in_londonscott, thats pretty much what I think yeah, its video stealing the ram causing audio to puke.06:39
User_UnFriendlyicarus-c: that's the real reason, or you making a joke06:39
rusivihehehe06:39
dendriteok i did that. ty very much AbhiJit.  but i can't make them my user ownership. they are stuck in root ownership06:39
mokkani just updated to the 10.10 beta from 10.04, and now i can't connect to wireless networks anymore.. i can still see them, but the connection never goes through, any ideas?06:39
icarus-cUser_UnFriendly, when there is vim, you don't need nano, right?...06:39
Blue1rusivi: WOO HOO!  Thanks06:40
User_UnFriendlyyeah06:40
dendritei tried chown username:username didn't work06:40
phil_in_londonscott, most bios's do allow for an allocation of system ram to the video if onboard...I'd have a look and test.06:40
zainmokkan, you sure06:40
zainrecheck06:40
rusiviBlue1: I'm so syked it worked out for you06:40
User_UnFriendlyi'm not a fan of vim06:40
User_UnFriendlysorry06:40
icarus-cUser_UnFriendly, and fedora people need vim more than nano i suppose06:40
Blue1rusivi: thanks a million!06:40
mokkanzain, yeah i click on the network manager icon and click on "linksys" and it tries to connect and fails06:40
rusiviBlue1: np glad to be of assistance06:40
gb__dendrite: chown perm file_name06:40
mokkanit was working just fine a few hours ago before i updated06:40
scott__so u think allocate more to video or less?06:40
icarus-cUser_UnFriendly, and ubuntu want to be "newbie-friendly" so ubuntu got nano06:41
phil_in_londonscott, I06:41
zainuh wait for someone to assist you,if not post or forum or make a urgent bug report ;)06:41
phil_in_londonscott, I'm betting on allocating MORE to the video, you will have no control over the audio ram.06:41
Ryen!10.10 | mokkan06:41
User_UnFriendlyokay06:41
ubottumokkan: Maverick Meerkat is the codename for Ubuntu 10.10, due October 10, 2010 - Maverick Release Candidate at http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/1010 , discussion and support in #ubuntu+106:41
User_UnFriendlymac has nano too06:41
scott__ok ill give that a try06:41
User_UnFriendlylol06:41
scott__thanks phil06:41
phil_in_londonscott, all suggestions do come with a 2/2/2 warranty06:41
scott__this is also the first time ive been in irc in 10yrs..06:41
phil_in_london2 mins, 2 feet or 2 bad :-p06:42
rusiviBlue1: All the kudos belong to the Oracle/OOo team who developed, drop them a ty on their website, they would be so happy to hear it06:42
phil_in_londonscott, its been years for me as well.06:42
dendritei got if figured out06:42
User_UnFriendlyscott__: that's a long time06:42
dendritei didn't supply the "-R flag"06:42
scott__is this just #ubuntu or are there multiple rooms/06:42
Blue1rusivi: i will thanks06:42
User_UnFriendlywere you married?06:42
Blue1rusivi: sure beats pdfedit06:42
phil_in_londonscott there are many other rooms.06:42
rusiviBlue1: hehe06:42
scott__military then college, then job, then married, now having a kid in a month06:43
scott__busy 10yrs06:43
aetaric!ot06:43
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!06:43
dendrite!ot06:43
User_UnFriendlyi was just joking around.  Sorry06:43
rusivishesh ubottu...06:43
rusivi:P06:43
icarus-cBlue1, what is the solution to pdf edit you found?06:44
icarus-cOO.org  draw ?06:44
rusiviicarus-c: OO.org draw + openoffice.org-pdfimport06:44
User_UnFriendly!ot06:44
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!06:44
Blue1icarus-c: install the pdf import for oo then use oo page draw06:44
scott__brb.. maybe06:45
scott__:-D06:45
icarus-cBlue1, rusivi aha06:45
AbhiJit!permissions | dendrite06:45
ubottudendrite: An explanation of what file permissions are and how they can be manipulated can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions06:45
DarkSectorWhere to find support for Maverick ?06:46
icarus-cBlue1, used that before, not ideal but it works :P06:46
User_UnFriendlyanyone using maverick 64?06:46
gino_Hello06:46
User_UnFriendlyhi06:46
TiKUser_UnFriendly: yes06:46
gb__User_UnFriendly: i am06:46
DarkSector!Maverick > DarkSector06:46
ubottuDarkSector, please see my private message06:46
User_UnFriendlywhat you think so far?06:46
TiKvery nice06:46
User_UnFriendlyto me it seems a tad slow06:46
TiKheh06:47
Blue1icarus-c: yes, but pdfedit has no documentation on how to do a simple text edit.06:47
TiKnot here06:47
gino_I have placed my script in /etc/init/ but upstart doesn't seem to run it, ether with "start myscrip" or when ubuntu start. Help?06:47
User_UnFriendlywell boot is fast06:47
Chaos2358does anyone know a good program for organizing music on ubuntu 10.04? something like cowbell that can retrieve song info because cowbell isnt working06:47
icarus-cBlue1, pdfedit works too but just way toooo slow.............06:47
icarus-cBlue1, as i recall, it was real tricky to use :P06:47
TiKgino_: you hve to add it to initd you dont jt put it in the dir06:47
Blue1Chaos2358: yes guayadeque06:47
AbhiJitChaos2358, rhythmbox06:48
Chaos2358Blue1 thank you is it in the ubuntu sources already06:48
Blue1Chaos2358: http://pkill-9.com/wordpress/?p=17406:48
gino_TiK: Ah, none of the guides mentioned that, how would I do that?06:48
Chaos2358AbhiJit rythmbox wont go online and search for missing song info06:48
Blue1Chaos2358: it's in 10.1006:48
AbhiJitChaos2358, ok06:48
Chaos2358Blue1 thank you again im navigating to the link now06:49
Blue1Chaos2358: this will work with 10.04 though (recipe I gave you above)06:49
saivinobahi is it possible to access ubuntu's encrypted home from another distro?06:49
Gryllidahttp://pastebin.mozilla.org/803280 -- samba problem; did I get it right how to fix, do I need to paste the whole conf, and do I need to restart the os for the change in conf to take effect?06:49
saivinobai tried to chroot and then ecryptfs-mount-private..but it gives some error..06:49
Gryllidasaivinoba: if you know the username/password, most likely yes06:50
Gryllidasaivinoba: all errors here, please06:50
saivinobaGryllida: ok i logged into another machine will try again and post..06:50
* Gryllida waves to #ubuntu about http://pastebin.mozilla.org/80328006:51
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mokkanso the wireless problem i was having with maverick.. i tried the older kernel i had installed (2.6.32) and my wireless works perfectly now06:53
mokkancould this be a bug, or is there just something broken on my system?06:53
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gb__yippeee vmware installed np :)06:55
Ggtuscan i recieve help here?06:55
hatake_kakashi!maverick| mokkan06:56
ubottumokkan: Maverick Meerkat is the codename for Ubuntu 10.10, due October 10, 2010 - Maverick Release Candidate at http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/1010 , discussion and support in #ubuntu+106:56
mokkanis there a reason you keep flashing me with that messagE?06:56
DoyleMaverick was an awesome movie starring Mel Gibson about card games, guns, fast hands, and empty wallets.06:57
silarujoin #kpli-bogor06:57
hatake_kakashi<mokkan> so the wireless problem i was having with maverick.. i tried the older kernel i had installed (2.6.32) and my wireless works perfectly now| could this be a bug, or is there just something broken on my system? could this be a bug, or is there just something broken on my system?06:57
gb__mokkan: you are on new maverick, its support is in #ubuntu_1 i think :p06:57
mokkanalright, see that's what i wanted06:58
mokkanthanks06:58
hatake_kakashiits also mentioned by the bot if you read what the bot said in full detail06:58
Doyleit's not ubuntu_1...06:58
Doyleit's ubuntu+106:58
gb__Doyle: yes my bad ubuntu+106:58
gb__Doyle: sowwy :)06:59
G0di-hey06:59
Doyleif you really want to get crazy try ubuntu+2  0o006:59
working_is there anyone out there who has some experience diagnosing device permission issues? specifically a webcam? been at it for awhile now and am completely and profoundly stumped o_006:59
G0di-im new on linux06:59
G0di-i need help06:59
G0di-i dont have audio :S06:59
EighteensTik, Thanks for the help earlier, it booted from the hd, and did update-grub, so i'm really happy!!!06:59
G0di-when i put alsamier on the terminal06:59
G0di-Card: USB Internet Phone by TigerJet                                         ?06:59
G0di-? Chip: USB Mixer                                                              ?06:59
G0di-? View: [Playback] Capture  All                                                ?06:59
G0di-? Item: PCM06:59
FloodBot3G0di-: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.06:59
TiKEighteens: very nice07:00
scott__bak07:01
hatake_kakashiI don't think USB audio is supported well, I could be wrong however07:01
scott__phil.. no go with the video .. changed it to 512 stil same issue:-(07:01
dendriteok.  if i wanna see the linux source code, aside from downloading the kernel from kernel.org, how would i see it in ubuntu? (reason i ask is cuz is linux/open source is touted as "free".)  so where is it?07:02
phil_in_londonscott, sorry about that, its about the only thing I could think that might help.07:02
blakkheimdendrite: apt-get source packagename07:02
EighteensTik, mind answering another question? Is there a image editor, package comprable to photoshop or better for ubuntu?07:02
gb__any luck scott__ ?07:02
scott__another thing i noticed was if i have music playing and i open up the wine config07:02
dendritecould i apt-get source ubuntu?07:02
phil_in_londonEighteens, Gimp07:02
scott__as soon as i click on the audio tab my music cuts out07:02
TiKEighteens: the best option would be GIMP07:03
hatake_kakashidendrite, its available in the ubuntu repository apt-get source linux-kernel iirc07:03
scott__no luck gb07:03
phil_in_londonscott, yeah, wine is going to want to "OWN" the enviroment.07:03
EighteensOh thanks Phil_in_london07:03
blakkheimdendrite: no, you need the package name, linux-image-generic for example07:03
dendriteo ok ^^07:03
dendrite:)07:03
dendritehow exciting07:03
scott__so now picasa is out of the picture07:03
scott__its all about wine being the issue07:03
TiKEighteens: enjoy linux07:03
phil_in_londonscott, it always was about wine, picassa is just a by-product of the same issue.07:03
gb__scott__: did you get picasa from google site?07:04
scott__so just by opening up the wine config sound tab what would make my audio cut out?07:04
phil_in_londonscott, as I said before, I don't have need for wine here, but are there settings in the config for it to tell it not to grab audio?07:04
phil_in_londonscott, yeah, wine is grabbing the irq associated with sound at that time.07:05
scott__i did get picasa from google site yes07:05
scott__phil.. looks like i can switch drivers in there?07:05
phil_in_londonscott, is there a disable sound option in the wine?07:05
scott__its set on alsa right now07:05
gino_TiK: So do I have to add a script to /etc/init.d? I thought 10.04 used upstart so it just needed a .conf file in /etc/init?07:05
phil_in_londonscott, you could try to switch driver, is there an ASIO option?07:06
TiKgino_: no there is a command i forget initsomething you can find it off google07:06
scott__ALSA, OSS, JACK, NAS, OR EsouD07:06
scott__those are the options07:06
gb__scott__: try alsa07:06
tyfighterhow come on ubuntu server, when I create a user with useradd, when they connect through ssh, there's no ascii colours or tab auto complete or anything. why is it different than the main account?07:07
phil_in_londonscott, not sure if you're going to have a jack server running, but that might be the one that will "share" better than others.07:07
scott__alsa is checked already :-(07:07
scott__ill give jack a try07:07
FusionXok, i used mbrfix.exe to fix mbr, now there's no option for ubuntu in mbr boot, how can i boot to ubuntu and install grub with mbr?07:07
EighteensTik, i'm loving the colors, it's so nice after looking at xp for the last nearly 10 years07:07
phil_in_londonscott, oss is an option that will work, not sure if it will fix your problem, but it would be something you can select that wouldn't cause any problems.07:07
TiKEighteens: ;)07:08
Eighteensi was never much for purple, but it's really growing on me :)07:08
TiKhaha07:08
scott__jack still has issue07:08
scott__trying oss07:08
Doyletyfighter: that command only adds the user, it doesn't setup the users environment07:09
tyfighterDoyle: how do I set up their environ?07:09
scott__i can uncheck all of them, tried it and still have the issue, just with even opening that tab in the wine config.. wierd07:10
tigerx1078witch program like tight vnc or vnc works on a mac to connect to differnt other os07:10
phil_in_londonscott, but don't test by opening that tab.07:10
phil_in_londonscott, change option, then test by opening picassa.07:10
tigerx1078sorry wrong room guys07:10
Doyletyfighter: use 'sudo useradd -d /home/bob -m bob' then 'sudo passwd bob'07:10
ahaioshello07:11
phil_in_londonscott, opening that tab is definitely going to cause the problem no matter what setting is in there, get back to the original issue, open picassa.07:11
Doyletyfighter: you can use the adduser command instead, it's a little wizard type deal07:11
ahaiosdoes anyone know any "msn" messenger for ubuntu that still supports camera?07:11
mkquist_FusionX: yeah you eliminated the grub options, so now you need to reinstall grub07:12
tyfighterDoyle: let me try one sec07:12
mkquist_FusionX: got a live cd?07:12
mkquist_FusionX: I hope07:12
scott__ok, opened picasa with the music running.. and it shut off07:12
scott__this is with all of the drivers unchecked in wine config07:12
gb__Doyle: what are you trying?07:13
FusionXmkquist_: yes, can u tell me how to install it with mbr?07:13
mkquist_FusionX: mbrfix takes care of windows, but thats all07:13
phil_in_londonscott, looks like wine is an undisciplined little punk with behaviour problems :)07:13
scott__haha07:13
mkquist_FusionX: need a live cd07:13
tyfighterDoyle: it's still the same07:13
scott__yes it is07:13
snow_vhi07:13
FusionXmkquist_: i have it07:13
Doyle gb__ um... right now I'm about half an oz into a new rum... not really doing anything else07:13
scott__i love pretty much everyting google has to offer, but.. why they have to go and screw this up is beyond me07:14
phil_in_londonscott, well, at least you know exactly what your problem is, not ram its wine, now, how to replace picassa...I'm still at a loss, I've always understood picassa to be a website, yet you are running wine to run it.07:14
gb__Doyle: i meant whats the issue07:14
mkquist_FusionX: need to boot to the live cd and fix grub now07:14
Doyletyfighter: ok, use the adduser command, type 'adduser --help' for an example07:14
FusionXmkquist_: i want to know how to install grub with mbr (without removing mbr)?07:14
scott__picasa has a web albums feature07:14
Doyle gb__ Ah, he used useradd and didnt' get any environment set.07:14
scott__so you can store your photos in the cloud07:15
working__what is it that would cause permissions problems for webcam access (/dev/video0) for anyone but root? tried adding the user to the video group but that did nothing, and on my netbook where the webcame works, my user account there is not a member of video07:15
mkquist_FusionX: you don't 'remove' anything, you just need to let grub find the installs, windows and linux07:15
phil_in_londonscott, http://picasa.google.com/linux/07:15
scott__but this is an app .. like fspot on steroids07:15
gb__ok Doyle07:15
phil_in_londonperhaps just redownload the app?07:15
tyfighterhey doyle07:16
gb__scott__: sure is wierd07:16
tyfighterthat seemed to do it07:16
mkquist_FusionX: check here for instance...  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows07:16
tyfighterodd07:16
scott__ive done it over and over again.. 32bit and 64bit even with installing both ubuntu versions07:16
Doyleworking__: try 'You must give to the user (you) permission for use video devices. Go to System > Administration > Users and Groups. Unlock and select your username. In user privileges, you must enable the line "Capture video from TV or webcams, and use 3d acceleration", log off and log in07:16
FusionXmkquist_: ubuntu replaced mbr with grub when i installed ubuntu 10.0407:16
Doyletyfighter: awesome, sometimes it's just about finding the working command07:17
Gryllida how do I restart my client I use to access windows share?07:17
Gryllida/etc/init.d/smb: ERROR: cannot open `/etc/init.d/smb' (No such file or directory)07:17
tyfighterthanks07:17
scott__do you all use reg. ubuntu?07:17
Gryllida?07:17
Gryllida'reg.'?07:17
scott__ubuntu or kubuntu or xubuntu?07:17
scott__or any of the other ones07:17
phil_in_londonjust ubuntu here.07:17
Doylescott__: this channel is for the ubuntu distribution, there are other channesl to get support for the others.07:18
working__Doyle: that option isn't there in the panel. and on my netbook where the camera works it isn't there either07:18
scott__ok ic07:18
scott__i just installed mint today07:18
scott__but came back to ubuntu07:18
mkquist_FusionX: well, not technically, at least it shouldn't, and has not with any of my installs, but grub2 does get a little confused, I've noticed with Win7, but that link should help... sometimes you have to 'help' grub with the windows partitions.  Like I said I've only found this to be true with Win707:19
phil_in_londonscott, so, is the biggest feature you need from picassa the cloud?07:19
FusionXokk07:19
FusionX*ok07:19
scott__no i dont even use that feature of picasa07:19
Gryllidascott__: ubuntu, not xubuntu and not kubuntu, thats what i am using07:19
scott__nice07:19
Gryllida how do I restart my client I use to access windows share?07:19
Gryllidawithout logging out that is07:19
scott__i just use it to organize photos easily07:20
scott__and video07:20
Gryllidascott__: correct correct, that is what picasa is for07:20
Doyleworking__: and you've added the users to the video group? checkout the permissions with 'ls -la /etc/video0'07:20
scott__and do redeye reduction, cropping and  abunch of other stuff07:20
Gryllidaanyone has an idea on my question?07:20
phil_in_londonscott, you might want to find time to learn gimp07:20
Chaos2358 do i remove software and all the crap that came with it if i downloaded it through terminal? it doesnt show up in ubuntu software center07:21
working__Doyle: when i run 'ls -la /etc/video0' i get 'ls: cannot access /etc/video0: No such file or directory' on both computers. working and not07:21
Doylescott__: Chat in #ubuntu-offtopic if you don't need help. thanks07:21
scott__i know gimp, but thats not what im talking about07:21
DarkSector!empathy > DarkSector07:21
ubottuDarkSector, please see my private message07:21
scott__im talking about pluggin in my digital camera and importing photos and video07:22
Chaos2358how do i remove software and all the crap that came with it if i downloaded it through terminal? it doesnt show up in ubuntu software center07:22
scott__being able to do that easily is the biggest thing because i take lots of photos07:22
scott__and lots of video07:22
Doyleworking__: sorry, my bad, that dir doesn't exist in 10.04 anymore07:22
scott__then later on i wanna be able to browse through them, fix some redeye.07:23
Chaos2358how do i remove software and all the crap that came with it if i downloaded it through terminal? it doesnt show up in ubuntu software center07:23
phil_in_londonscott, yeah, I understand that, still, since its nothing more than a mounted memory stick, I fail to see the difficulty in just using it naturally. It should in fact mount as a drive as soon as you plug it in, and thats with just stock ubuntu.07:23
blakkheimChaos2358: what do you mean 'downloaded through terminal'07:23
scott__picasa automatically finds the eyes in the pictures and fixes redeye07:23
Doyleworking__: 'ls -la /dev/video007:23
scott__gimp no can do07:23
phil_in_londonwell, gimp can, but you need to add scripts to it.07:23
scott__right just a memeory stick07:23
mkquist_Chaos2358: dpkg?07:24
Gryllidawhat is 0775 file permission?07:24
phil_in_londonoh well, I guess you're stuck running wine for your camera :(  such a waste.07:24
mkquist_Chaos2358: thats how you control the 'packages' at the command line at least07:24
working__Doyle: i get 'crw-rw---- 1 root video 81, 0 2010-09-29 14:08 /dev/video0' on the broken machine and 'crw-rw----+ 1 root video 81, 0 2010-09-29 14:08 /dev/video0' on the working machine. does that '+' mean anything?07:24
scott__well, there is a new photo app coming out07:25
scott__well.. its being worked on07:25
Chaos2358someone in here gave me a link and the link gave me instructions to download guayadeque step by step with alot of different packages i dont like it and want to remove it along with the other 200 mb of stuff it installed but it doesnt show up in ubuntu software center07:25
scott__i forget the name of it07:25
mkquist_Chaos2358: you can 'man' dkpg07:25
working__Doyle: i've verified that the device is seen with lsusb, and that drivers are loaded via lsmod. and the camera works as root happily.07:25
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mkquist_Chaos2358: in terminal and it will give you the 'options'07:25
phil_in_londonGryllida, if you want all to have rw then   chmod a+wwwrrr myfile07:25
scott__ubuntu is going to start using it in base distro instead of fspot07:25
Chaos2358im really new to ubuntu so i have no idea what youre talking about mkquist07:25
working__Doyle: this is a built-in webcam on a laptop btw, if that makes any difference07:25
Doyleworking__: yea, it's not a driver issue, it's a permissions thing. Lots of people have this issue07:26
scott__it has what im looking for but it wont import my video :-(07:26
working__Doyle: it just confuses me because a group problem would be the first thing i'd try, but my account on the working machine has no relation to the video group whatsoever that i can find07:26
Gryllidaphil_in_london: is 0775 same as all have rw?07:26
Gryllidaanyone, is 0775 same as all have rw?07:27
Gryllida(a+rw)07:27
mkquist_Chaos2358: well, if your talkin about command line and installing dkpg is how its done.  Thought that was your question...07:27
phil_in_londongryllida, a+rw is only going to effect the first of three sets of rights.07:27
DoyleGryllida: it's read exe exe07:27
phil_in_londongryllida , a+rwrwrw or a+rrrwww or a+wwwrrr, that would allow everybody to read and write, want everybody to read but not write? a+rrr07:28
scott__shotwell07:28
scott__anyone use shotwell?07:29
Chaos2358mkquist ok lemme explain maybe you can help a guy gave me a link to a websit which had all of the commands needed to download and install guayadeque music manager but i dont like it and want to completelly remove it and everything else that came with it in a total of 203mb. how do i do it07:29
Doyleok working__ try this 'sudo chown root /dev/video0'07:29
moetuneshe's prob not in the video group07:30
scott__anyone running meerkat yet?07:30
working__Doyle: no change, but it was already owned by root according to the earlier ls of it07:30
AbhiJitscott__, all in #ubuntu+1 are running07:30
Doyleworking__:  the goal is to get the + added07:30
working__and that's just how the dev file is created upon boot07:30
scott__ty abhijit07:31
working__Doyle: ahh (what does that + signify?)07:31
ubuntuhi07:31
working__Doyle: huh, now it works. looks like it just took a sec? o_0 (and answered my own question via google, ACLs heh)07:32
snow_vdoi phu` du, ta biet dau ngay mai07:32
mkquist_Chaos2358: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto07:33
TiKhi07:34
Doyleworking__: the + is a sticky bit, it's use don public folders07:34
Chaos2358mkquist thanx this helps alot07:34
Doyleworking__: glad it worked. there's a command to change the sticky bit, but chown's just as quick in simple situations like yours07:35
mkquist_Chaos2358: here is an example of actually doing it.. but with a diff package of course.. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1629407:35
lactocolii think i have a unique problem. GT220 audio card that lets sound bypass via DVI with windows, but cant figure out with ubuntu07:35
mkquist_Chaos2358: hope I've helped07:35
lactocolii will appreciate any suggestions07:35
mkquist_Chaos2358: take care07:35
working__Doyle: yeah, i'm looking stuff up now. i had *no* idea this functionality was there. i always wondered how ubuntu always worked for video/sound/etc without any user ever actually being added to those groups o_007:35
Doyleworking__:  it's the MAJOR difference in permissions with ubuntu07:36
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mkquist_lactocoli: have you looked at the alsa page? http://www.alsa-project.org/07:36
Doyleworking__: I really like it, makes the world a bit easier07:36
lactocolimkquist I have. But sound through07:36
lactocoliDVI.. isnt that weird?07:37
snow_vdits07:37
working__Doyle: no doubt. thanks so very much for the help kind sir =)07:37
Doyleworking__: anytime. enjoy the webcam.07:37
mkquist_Doyle: might be a work in progess...07:37
mkquist_Doyle: sry, wrong person07:38
prabhuhi i am using ubuntu10.04 i need to install packages simultaneously but i cant open synaptic package manager more than once  so my question is how can i use multiple synaptic manager?07:38
mkquist_prabhu: i think you can only open one at a time07:39
phil_in_londonprabhu, why would you want to do that, how could it understand current dependencies?07:39
mkquist_prabhu: but you can install mutiple packages07:39
prabhuya i know but for browsing packages i need it07:40
mkquist_prabhu: once one has a 'lock' on that its the only one allowed... not sure why you would want more that one though07:40
prabhuwhile installing some other packages07:40
prabhuso no other way to use it multiple times kis there any other software like synaptic manager07:41
working__Doyle: now to figure out why this happened when the webcam worked before and why pulseaudio stopped functioning at exactly the same time for no discrnable reason and no user-changes to the system >_<07:41
phil_in_londonprabhu, all the different methods are going to lock the process, there is apt-get install, but it will do the same thing.07:42
mkquist_prabhu: nope07:42
moetunesthere is apt-cache search07:42
prabhuthank you friends i understood07:43
beefncheeseRyen, needaa tlkk to you mannggg07:43
Doyleworking__: the answer will be in /var/log/kern.log or maybe even Xorg.0.log if it's hardware prompted07:44
FusionXmkquist_: i don't want to remove windows bootloader, i want to be able to boot to ubuntu with windows bootloader (like as in wubi, one can boot to ubuntu with windows bootloader.)07:44
working__Doyle: yep, but that's for tomorrow. for now, beer then sleep =)07:45
Doyleworking__: good luck. oh, check /var/log/debug also.07:46
MooshiMuushiHey Everyone ;)07:47
mkquist_FusionX: grub2, wont 'remove' anything.  It will just find the operating systems and hand off the boot loading the whatever is installed.  I've used it for winXp and win7 with sucess, but like I said, from my experience, it can get a little 'confused' with win707:47
mkquist_FusionX: it doesnt take away anything, it just links to whatever is installed07:47
FusionXmkquist_: windows bootloader -> grub -> ubuntu. is that possible?07:48
blakkheimswitch grub and the windows one07:48
MooshiMuushiOpen (not Free) BSD is a good program to add or delete operating systems in from the bootloader.07:48
DoyleFusionX: talk like that won't get you any friends.07:48
phil_in_londonha!07:49
FusionXDoyle: ?07:49
blakkheimdid you just call openbsd a "program" lol07:49
Doylewindows bootloader... *shakes head* lol07:49
mkquist_FusionX: never done it, never needed to, so never tried.  Grub seems to be the easier answer, windows like to just play with itself... no jokes, just an observation...  you can google that part07:49
FusionXok thanks for the info07:49
phil_in_londonwindows bloatloader07:50
Holtyeasy BCD is a windows bootloader to restore the windows bootloader07:50
mkquist_FusionX: really, I've read that you can use windows boot loader, but why bother?07:50
mkquist_FusionX: grub does do it fine... Hell, this machine dual boots winxp and ubuntu and has for years fine07:50
MooshiMuushiIsn't OpenBSD a program that allows the user to add and remove operating systems within "Windows BootLoader"?07:51
MooshiMuushi*Googles*07:51
mkquist_FusionX: I just found that while the new grub... grub2 has many advantages, it does get a little confused w/win707:51
phil_in_londonmooshi, it is an operating system.07:51
DoyleMooshiMuushi: OpenBSD is a linux distribution, I'm not suer what he was talking about07:51
mkquist_MooshiMuushi: no OpenBSD is a different form of linux07:52
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blakkheimno07:52
mkquist_MooshiMuushi: very similar, to OSX07:52
blakkheimopenbsd is not linux07:52
blakkheimat all07:52
MooshiMuushiEASYBCD!!!!07:52
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MooshiMuushiThat's it :)07:52
mkquist_blakkheim: ok a kernel... fine then07:52
MooshiMuushiDoyle, mkquist_ , I see :D07:52
mkquist_blakkheim: sorry for that07:52
greppymkquist_: actually, OpenBSD is not a different form of linux :)07:53
blakkheimmkquist_: it's more than a kernel too07:53
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Doyleblakkheim: haha, it's unix... POSIX compati anyway07:53
MooshiMuushiEasyBCD was what I was talking about ;) Sorry.07:53
AbhiJit!ot07:53
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!07:53
mkquist_blakkheim: i stand corrected, but its not a 'boot loader'.... lol07:53
navetzcan someone help me getting my ati card working on ubuntu?07:53
mkquist_sry, i thing this is trying to go off topic... just got checked...07:53
MooshiMuushiAnyway, enough about "EasyBCD". I have a question! :D07:54
mkquist_AbhiJit: sry for that, got lost07:54
Doyleit's kinda slow anyway. Whats' the Q MooshiMuushi07:54
MooshiMuushiIs there a way to use both ethernet + wireless at the same time. Windows could do it ;) I'm very sure Linux/Ubuntu can :D07:54
Chaos2358mkquist i used the information you gave me but it didnt work. it is saying that the package is not found when i try to remove it through command line i used the kpackage kit too and it isnt finging it please help07:54
AbhiJitmkquist_, np07:55
DoyleMooshiMuushi: plug in the cat5 cable and connect to the WAN07:55
mkquist_AbhiJit: =)07:55
MooshiMuushiDoyle, I'm with Ubuntu so..eh :D07:55
MooshiMuushiDoyle, Sorry, can you go into more detail?07:55
DoyleMooshiMuushi: not much benefit other than redundancy if the wireless is on a different line than the cat507:55
mkquist_I think this started as a dual boot question..07:56
mkquist_MooshiMuushi: it's a dual boot problem no?07:56
mkquist_MooshiMuushi: trying to boot windows/ubuntu... correct?07:56
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MooshiMuushiDoyle, I remember reading about this, and the thread said that Ubuntu will put the ethernet cable priority ahead of wireless.07:56
mkquist_sry, started with FusionX07:56
mkquist_FusionX: are you still here? and have a boot problem?07:57
FusionXno07:57
MooshiMuushimkquist_, Nono, I'm 100% Ubuntu :)07:57
mkquist_sry then.. my bad07:57
DoyleMooshiMuushi: hardline will have priority 100% of the time. THe only situation where wireless takes priority is on mobile devices07:57
MooshiMuushiDoyle, Therefore cutting the internet from the wireless.07:57
MooshiMuushiDoyle, Mobile Devices? Laptops?07:57
DoyleMooshiMuushi: wireless enabled cell phones07:58
FusionXmkquist_: i wanted to use plop with windows bootloader, thats why i asked.07:58
greppyDoyle: wireless will have priority if is the default route07:58
zshleonfinally...07:58
Chaos2358ok can someone help me? i followed the command line instructions given to me in a link to install GUayadeque as well as alot of stuff with it. I now cant figure out how to remove it because it isnt showing up with apt-get purge guayadeque07:58
zshleon折腾了半天,终于进来了07:58
moetunes!cn07:58
ubottuFor Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道: #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk07:58
Doylegreppy: but that'd have to be configured, obviously he hasn't reached that point yet. I don't think there's a way to load balance network traffic with the default install of ubuntu.07:59
mkquist_FusionX: ic07:59
MooshiMuushiDoyle, So you're saying that using both Ethernet and Wireless works?07:59
MooshiMuushiDoyle, At the same time that is.07:59
DoyleMooshiMuushi: if you want to utilize both connections you need to find a 'load balancing' solution for your networks07:59
Chaos2358ok can someone help me? i followed the command line instructions given to me in a link to install GUayadeque as well as alot of stuff with it. I now cant figure out how to remove it because it isnt showing up with apt-get purge guayadeque07:59
moetunesChaos2358:  you obviously didn't use the package manager to install it so ofc it won't show07:59
MooshiMuushiDoyle, Load Balancing?07:59
Chaos2358moetunes so how do i remove it?08:00
mkquist_FusionX: advantage over grub... just curious, seems to need grub08:00
moetunesChaos2358:  did you have to do configure and make install for it/08:00
moetunes?08:00
DoyleMooshiMuushi: yea, load balancing is a methodology utilized in computing (and other things) to distribute requests to multiple resources relatively evenly (balanced)08:01
Chaos2358moetunes yes. i think08:01
moetunes!checkinstall | Chaos235808:01
ubottuChaos2358: checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall - Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page, and DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!08:01
MooshiMuushiDoyle, Do you want me to explain the situation to you, so that this will be more easier for you?08:01
DoyleMooshiMuushi: I think Pgpost2 is your solution... greppy do you have another suggestion?08:01
FusionXmkquist_: can u link me a tutorial of how to configure grub so that -> first it boots to windows bootloader -> grub -> ubuntu. like as in wubi.08:01
moetunesChaos2358:  check in the build dir to see if there is an uninstall script08:01
MooshiMuushiDoyle, ?08:02
mkanyicyHow can I stop the "Broadcast Accounts" window from popping up all the time on ubuntu?08:02
DoyleMooshiMuushi: sure, what's your goal?08:02
Chaos2358moetunes forgive my stupidity but who where when what why and how08:03
Chaos2358moetunes the web page i got the command lines from has no removal instructions08:03
moetunesChaos2358:  I'm too far away to see how you installed it...08:03
Doylemkanyicy: new install? Have you applied all updates and restarted twice?08:04
Chaos2358ok want the command lines i used?08:04
ehsan_ehsantux08:04
Chaos2358moetunes want the command lines i used?08:04
mkquist_FusionX: not sure even what your asking?  grub will link to windows, but I'm thinking you are trying something different...  Grub links to other O/S's and hands off the boot the them...  at least as I understand it.08:04
mkanyicyDoyle, very old update08:04
mkquist_FusionX: exotic operating systems maybe?08:04
moetunesChaos2358:  ypasye 'em then08:04
mkanyicyDoyle, i mean very old install, I am up to date08:04
moetunesChaos2358:  paste 'em then08:04
Funhousehi there, i plugged my external hd in, how do i view it in th console, its not showin with df08:04
DoyleFusionX: have a peek at this, maybe a bit dated but should get you started. http://www.geocities.com/epark/linux/grub-w2k-HOWTO.html08:04
Chaos2358moetunes first i used this sudo add-apt-repository ppa:anonbeat/guayadeque08:05
Chaos2358sudo apt-get update08:05
Chaos2358sudo apt-get install guayadeque-svn08:05
MooshiMuushiI have a PS3, and I stream my videos to the PS3 via the Ethernet Cable (doing this will allow faster transfer then Wireless). I connect the Ethernet cable to the PC to transfer the videos, but whenever I do, my wireless internet will cut. Therefore leaving me with my laptop with no internet, but i need the internet to do other thing. Is there a way to allow both Ethernet and Wireless to work at the same time?08:05
MooshiMuushiOops.08:05
Chaos2358moetunes then this svn co http://guayadeque.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/guayadeque/Trunk guayadeque08:05
mkquist_FusionX: will look see08:05
prabhuiam using virtualbox i need to share files can some one guide me plz..and my virtual os was windowsxp08:05
Doylemkanyicy: all the passwords stored are correct?08:06
MooshiMuushiprabhu, I can help.08:06
mkquist_FusionX: ok at first glance that's old08:06
mkquist_FusionX: so the point is?08:06
mkanyicyYes, Doyle08:06
shadaloogreetz08:06
Chaos2358moetunes better yet here is the link i got them from it will probably help more http://pkill-9.com/wordpress/?p=174&cpage=1#comment-491508:06
mkquist_FusionX: wow, back in the win2000 days08:06
shadaloocan I burn a cd-r in the live CD?08:07
prabhumooshimuushi :thank u  first i need to share files c08:07
shadaloocan I burn a cd-r in the live CD?08:07
MooshiMuushiprabhu, First open VirtualBox. Then click on "Settings". That will open a new window, click on shared folder and enter in the location of the folder that you want to share.08:07
prabhuwho to do that mooshi08:07
prabhuk where can i view my shared files in my virtual os08:08
moetunesChaos2358:  there's no way I'm going through all that08:08
MooshiMuushiprabhu, Sorry, then click on the image with the green plus sign on it.08:08
Chaos2358moetunes ok08:08
mkquist_FusionX: all that is, is an old 'how to install grub' howto... but grub has gotten a lot more sophisticated  since this was written08:08
moetunesChaos2358:  man find for creation time for files is your best bet08:08
Chaos2358moetunes ok how do i do that?08:08
MooshiMuushiprabhu, A new window will pop-up. Click on the arrow and then click on "Others". This will allow you to browse around and find your folder.08:09
moetunesChaos2358:  in terminal type   man man   to learn about manpages08:09
MooshiMuushiDoyle, Are you there?08:09
Chaos2358moetunes sorry for being illeterate so to speak but ive been using ubuntu for about a week now08:09
Chaos2358ok08:09
Firebirdgood morning08:09
tech_good morning08:09
shadaloowhat's the easiest way to burn a driver for windows?08:09
shadalooI have a hard drive that's formatted for Windows but must install a driver for Windows08:09
shadaloocan someone please suggest a way to burn?08:09
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DoyleMooshiMuushi: yea08:10
mkquist_Chaos2358: if you open a terminal and type "man.. whatever" its the user manual for linux is all08:10
MooshiMuushiprabhu, Did that help?08:10
moetunesChaos2358:  and you did something without any research it seems - it is a hard thing to undo - check for an uninstall script08:10
Guest11734first time back on a chat for ages08:10
mkquist_Chaos2358: like man k3b for instance08:10
MooshiMuushiDoyle, sent you a message.08:10
Guest11734didn't touch an IRC for at least 10 years08:10
tech_Well i got xubuntu and i don't get any sound at all ^^" weird08:10
tech_use nickserve to reserve a nickname for you08:10
DoyleMooshiMuushi: you need to look into 2 things 'load balancing network ubuntu' and 'dual nick route traffic ubuntu'. You need a way to direct all http traffic to wireless only.08:10
Chaos2358moetunes yea i was looking for a music manager and followed the link thinking it was what i was looking for but it wasnt08:11
mkquist_FusionX: hope that helps08:11
shadaloocan someone please suggest a way to burn?08:11
MooshiMuushiDoyle, "direct all http traffic to wireless only." Does that mean I have to change my way of stream to wireless?08:11
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DoyleMooshiMuushi: if you can get the load balancing going, which I think will be easier and better, your issues will be solved08:11
moetunesChaos2358:  since it is a new install it might be quicker to just reinstall ubuntu08:11
Flreblrdthat's the thing08:12
moetunes20 min here for that08:12
FusionXmkquist_: i want to boot into ubuntu just like as in wubi i.e. first it boots to windows bootloader -> grub -> ubuntu.08:12
Chaos2358well it may be a new install but ive done a shit load to it in this week08:12
tech_:/08:12
DoyleMooshiMuushi: if you find a way to direct either application traffic (firefox i assume) or http traffic through the wireless device you'll have to remember to disable this option if wireless dies for some reason.08:12
mkquist_FusionX: did you install ubuntu on a separate partition?08:12
shadalooYO08:13
shadaloowhat program burns files08:13
shadaloo!topic08:13
ubottuPlease read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic08:13
phil_in_londontech_ is it just muted? That happened to me with this install, everything setup properly, it just had mute turned on.08:13
FusionXmkquist_: yes08:13
mkquist_FusionX: then grub, or more likely grub2 is your friend at this point...08:13
mkquist_shadaloo: k3b is just one of many burning programs08:13
prabhumooshimuushi: but i didnt get the way to see my shared folders but i did what u instruct08:13
shadaloomkquist_: thx08:13
MooshiMuushiDoyle, Ok then. I have to research these things and then I'll be able to understand you ;D08:13
Doyleshadaloo: cdw08:14
MooshiMuushiprabhu, So you added the shared folder?08:14
mkquist_FusionX: just google it, the ubuntu forums have a nice how too on grub 2 and its install/reinstall08:14
tech_what would be the most light xfce alternative.. right now on ICEWM08:14
navetzhow to I re-setup my xorg08:14
prabhuya08:14
navetzi installed some propritary drivers for ati08:14
DoyleMooshiMuushi: yea, start with learing about load balancing, it's not difficult, just new to you.  go from there08:15
MooshiMuushiprabhu, Now, login to Windows. Start --> Computer --> *Look on the left side of the window* Click on Network.08:15
navetzand then everything broke08:15
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jimisholhi, can you lead me to a room or site where can i find informations about buying cpu, motherboard or generally to build a pc most compatible with ubuntu? i.ve installed ubuntu to many devices but i would like to see it just running in my new pc that i will get. txs08:15
MooshiMuushiDoyle, Ok then. Do you mind if I ask you some more question later on?08:15
KillGutaGuys, can I take the free space from a windows partition and add it to my linux partition?08:16
DoyleMooshiMuushi: Sure, I'm here often. If not just leave me messages. With network load balancing you should speciffically look for 'network bonding ubuntu' and I think you'll find some good instructions online08:16
DoyleMooshiMuushi: bonding basically makes both connections act as one08:16
prabhumooshimuushi:i am now in network and internet connections on windowsxp08:16
MooshiMuushiDoyle, I found thi website that looked ok ;D http://www.howtoforge.com/network_bonding_ubuntu_6.1008:17
Flreblrdjimishol, just take any non-cutting-edge computer, and it'll work08:17
greppyMooshiMuushi: do you want to have all traffic go through both connections, or just be able to access your PS3 and wireless at the same time?08:17
MooshiMuushigreppy, PS3 and Wireless at the same time.08:17
FlreblrdKillGuta, you can if you did set up LVM, otherwise you can just create another partition to have it mount as /home for ex08:17
DoyleMooshiMuushi: that'll get you started, but 6.10 is a bit dated, be careful because 10.04 is quite different... I don't think you can break anything too bad though so don't worry too much.08:17
KillGutaFlreblrd, what's LVM?08:18
MooshiMuushiDoyle, BREAK?!?!08:18
greppyMooshiMuushi: the PS3 is on a differeint IP subnet than your wireless?08:18
FlreblrdKillGuta, it's Logical Volume Management. That's some good thing making you possible to change linux partition sizes on the fly08:18
Doylegreppy: I'm trying to give him a solution that won't affect the portability of his system and won't prevent any applications from accessing the network if one source goes down.08:18
FlreblrdKillGuta, but if you didn't install linux using LVM, you won't be able to change an existing partition anymore08:19
greppyDoyle: the PS3 network is not connected to the internet.08:19
MooshiMuushiprabhu, Computer --> Look left of the window and click on "Network" There you will find the shared folder.08:19
DoyleMooshiMuushi: networking is 50/50, half the time the stuff we do breaks stuff, half the time it works out... we just shovel up the 50% that works so it seems like we're awesome08:19
greppyDoyle: if his wifi goes down, he still can't go anywhere08:19
prabhumooshimuushi:iam now in network places on virtual08:19
MooshiMuushigreppy, Yes, PS3 is on 223.0.0.1 (IP Address) and LAPTOP is on (192.168.1.3).08:20
* G0di- is away: i like LINUX!08:20
MooshiMuushiprabhu, Is it there?08:20
greppyMooshiMuushi: I have to ask, why 223.0.0.1?08:20
prabhuno i cant find it08:20
Doylegreppy: yea but if his NIC is bound to a specific device or protocol he's nuts'd if his wireless goes down. A balancing solution would be redundant and not reliant on any application or portocol solution08:20
MooshiMuushiDoyle, I'm scared now...08:20
MooshiMuushigreppy, I can change it to my laptop's IP address. I just find it easy to do 223.0.0.1 :D08:21
jimisholi think that i've changed partition's length several times with gparted from livecd because i needed these partitions not mounted08:21
greppyDoyle: all he needs is to have both nicks up at the same time, have the wireless be the default gateway.08:21
prabhumooshimuushi:i find only shared documents not shared folders08:21
DoyleMooshiMuushi: you should be, networking can ruin a good tech leaving him weaving baskets the rest of his days.... be afraid08:22
Flreblrdjimishol, yes, but it's not intended to be. While LVM is specifically done for that08:22
MooshiMuushiDoyle, I'm having a read right now, and chatting with Grpeey about it. I'm sure you can see our conversation right?08:22
phil_in_londonyeah, I'd put the ps3 at 192.168.1.2 or 192.168.1.4, all set.08:22
Eryn_1983_FLhey peeps08:22
MooshiMuushiprabhu, Check again in the settings place to see if you set the folder to share correctly.08:22
greppyMooshiMuushi: using one of the other RFC1918 IPs would be a better solution for your PS3 network, but we'll get to that later.08:22
Eryn_1983_FLwas wondering if it would be  easier to tunnel samba  requests over a wan or  to just do a vpn08:23
MooshiMuushiDoyle, Ahaha, Love your jokes :D08:23
MooshiMuushigreppy, RFC1918?!?! Ahh, so much to learn. :D08:23
phil_in_londoneryn, does it have to be samba? got windows clients do you?08:24
prabhumooshimuushi:i checked in device->shared folders on virtual os it shows i shared but i cant find it08:24
FlreblrdEryn_1983_FL, yeah, just do a vpn08:24
Doylewhos joking... get into cisco and foundery commands and network setups and you'll understand08:24
Eryn_1983_FLwell samba is already setup on the network08:24
Eryn_1983_FLnow i am lookin at the  faq08:25
Eryn_1983_FLat the bottom of  bridge vs  routed  vpns08:25
DoyleOK MooshiMuushi I'm going to play some AssaultCube then hit the sack. Had a long night of partying...08:25
KillGutaWhy do some programs only see 300GB of my HD when it has 320GB?08:25
Doylegood luck. Thanks also to greppy08:25
Eryn_1983_FLit says to routing is  better if you want to do  file sharing  without setting up a wins or  samba server.08:25
MooshiMuushiDoyle, Ahaha, Ok. By the way. Urban Terror is better. :)08:26
MooshiMuushiDoyle, Later.08:26
jimisholKillGuta perhaps it uses different unit when measure GB i wouldn't mind08:27
graemer_join #ubuntu-powerpc08:27
Eryn_1983_FLok just had a crazy thought of how to get the dataoff my fiends harddrive..08:28
Eryn_1983_FLnetcat...08:28
Sorayahi guys08:29
jimisholif i chose check system then some message send to a database about my hardware. where can i see this database?08:29
Sorayaeverytime i shutdown my oc a Kubuntu logoff screen shows08:29
FusionXmkquist_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows#Preserving%20Windows%20Bootloader is that the way?08:29
Sorayabecaus i installa a kde package to have something like fences08:30
Sorayai m not sure if it was kde-desktop08:30
Sorayaor kubuntu desktop08:30
Sorayai have ubuntu 10.408:32
mkquist_FusionX: that is08:33
mkquist_FusionX: a way08:33
gaelfx!enter08:33
ubottuPlease try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!08:33
mkquist_FusionX: the link i gave is another08:34
FusionXmkquist_: which link?08:34
Flreblrdjimishol, are you talking about the command dmesg ?08:35
Flreblrdjimishol, or are you talking about the logs in /var/log/08:35
Kurdistanguys when will usb creating bootable disk be fixed under maverick?08:36
mkquist_FusionX: they both install grub...  If you are using a current ubuntu install, id go with grub2, its what ubuntu now uses08:36
jimisholi don't know i use greek version let me check.../usr/bin/checkbox-gtk08:36
Flreblrdubottu, heh... I remember saying that numerous times. that hitting "Enter" habit is a pain for those who actually try to read the whole channel08:37
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)08:37
FusionXmkquist_: i meant a way for - windows bootloader -> grub -> ubuntu.08:37
mkquist_FusionX: my link... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows  if your using the newest ubuntu install "If you fresh-installed Ubuntu Karmic 9.10 or newer, you are running Grub2."08:37
Sorayahow can i remove kde desktop to keep genome08:38
mkquist_FusionX: so you want to use windows boot loader instead of grub? is that the question?08:38
beefncheesecan anyone here help me with mpd and ncmpc08:38
Evo11Morning. Can anyone tell me what will cause a ubuntu server to stop allowing a windows machine from accessing the server?08:38
FlreblrdSoraya, you can use Synaptic package manager, or simply select the GNOME Environment at the login screen before you log in08:38
mkquist_FusionX: cause its usually grub/windows boot loader... at least thats what I've seen, and easier08:38
gaelfxSoraya: open Synaptic Package Manager and remove the package kde-desktop08:39
FusionXnvm i got it, thx anyway08:39
mkquist_FusionX: see, grub can easily boot to linux/anything and windows, but the other way around...  harder08:39
jimisholFiredblrd, i try to decide about cpu and motherboard proper for ubuntu before byuing pc but i'm not familiar with hardware specs unfortunately. so i look for some sort of database08:39
gaelfxSoraya: also Flreblrd's suggestion about changing at login is pretty handy ;)08:39
Sorayagaelfx, Thanks,,i try that08:39
mak_any1 who can help me access tv tuner card..rit nw recieving hardware overlay surface error, am a newbie08:39
Flreblrdgaelfx, :)08:39
SorayaFlreblrd, I keep that in mind08:40
beefncheese!info sl08:40
ubottusl (source: sl): Correct you if you type `sl' by mistake. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.03-16 (lucid), package size 24 kB, installed size 188 kB08:40
Evo11Morning. Can anyone tell me what will cause a ubuntu server to stop allowing a windows machine from accessing the server?08:41
Flreblrdjimishol, aaah I see.. well there sure is a database for videocards, as some are well supported and some not so well supported. You'll find that list on the www.xfree86.org website. All other standard hardware will be supported by Ubuntu08:41
FlreblrdEvo11, what is that server serving ? it could be numerous things.. like a bad configuration on either computer, a firewall rule, a bad routing, aso..08:42
jimisholmany, txs08:42
mkquist_Evo11: samba got funked up maybe? or quit working... !samba08:42
mkquist_!samba08:43
ubottuSamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.08:43
Flreblrd!cool08:43
Flreblrdah.. doesn't work08:43
Evo11Using it as a file host. What l don't understand is it was working fine then all of a sudden none of the windows machines can't seem to access the server08:43
Evo11sorry not file host but a file server08:43
FlreblrdEvo11, does any other computer access the same file server ?08:44
Eryn_1983_FLhey peeps  back again i know08:44
Flreblrdwb Eryn_1983_FL08:44
Eryn_1983_FLdoes ntfs-config fix dirty windows ntfs filesystems08:44
mak_anyone 2 help me with tv tuner card...nt able 2 run tvtime recieving hardware overlay error08:44
Evo11there are 2 other machines but none of them can access it now08:44
Eryn_1983_FLor  do i have to boot the stupid  disk with windcd08:44
Eryn_1983_FLor ntfsfix?08:44
phil_in_londonevol1, did you change your samba config or do any updates at the server?08:44
FlreblrdEryn_1983_FL, nothing can fix a dirty NTFS filesystem on linux08:45
Eryn_1983_FLugh i gota  boot  windows cd then  damn08:45
gaelfxEryn_1983_FL: what do you mean by 'dirty'?08:45
Evo11no none at all.I only did updates after l couldn't get access from the window machines and that still didn't help08:45
Eryn_1983_FLi can't mount it in  linux its  dirty  the bit has been set08:45
* Flreblrd never saw any intelligent disk... they all stay quiet and don't move08:45
gaelfxEryn_1983_FL: did you try to reset the flags using gparted?08:46
Eryn_1983_FLno i don't know how08:46
iirciphnmorning08:46
phil_in_londonEvol1, have you done any testing? For example, are you able to create a new share that they can see?08:46
mak_??08:46
Flreblrdmak_, obviously no one can help you with your TV card08:47
Evo11no not that but l will try that now08:47
phil_in_londonEvol1, can those machines ping the server, or vice versa?08:47
mak_huh, ohh why is that so?08:47
gaelfxEryn_1983_FL: I suggest giving GParted a go, should be easy enough to find in the software center, if you play around with it, you might find the problem08:47
ganeshranHi Can wvdial record data transfer as well?08:47
Evo11This is the error l got when l tried to share the folder "'net usershare' returned error 255: net usershare add: cannot convert name "Everyone" to a SID. Invalid parameter."08:48
phil_in_londoneveryone is a bad name08:48
Evo11yes they can ping the server08:48
Flreblrdmak_, probably because not everybody uses a TV tuner.. and on top of that they all are different. You can't be sure to use the knowledge gathered with 1 model to be used on the other model08:48
phil_in_londonits a commonly used groupname08:48
phil_in_londontry something else.08:48
Eryn_1983_FLok08:48
ganeshranis there a linux program which can record my data transfer like how man GBs up and down08:48
gaelfxEryn_1983_FL: when you say "the bit is set," what exactly do you mean?08:49
Flreblrdganadist, you'll wanna use tcpdump or something alike to record the data08:49
toolboxhi all08:49
toolboxcan someone please help me wiht a little problem i am having with ubuntu server 9.10/08:49
gaelfx!ask | toolbox08:49
ubottutoolbox: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)08:49
mak_<Flreblrd>, i have been behind this now for days08:49
AbhiJittoolbox, #ubuntu-server08:49
Flreblrdganeshran, forget what I said about tcpdump.. you just want a transfer accounting software and yes, that exists. But wvdial is not the one you're searching.08:49
Eryn_1983_FLit means  i have now shut down the system properly in windows  casue it hangs and now i cant mount it in linux  either to  copy the files off08:50
Evo11when l try to access the server from my window's machine l get the error "server is not accessible.You might not have permission to use this network resource08:50
ganeshranFlreblrd: I only want to record the amount of data transferred08:50
Flreblrdmak_, I remember setting one up 12 years ago.. and remember the pain it was08:50
ganeshranNot the data itself. I am paying huge bills on my net connection :(08:50
phil_in_londonevol1, have you allowed read access in your config?08:50
gaelfxEryn_1983_FL: ah, well, I think the only way is to mount it in Win and then safely remove it08:50
Flreblrdganeshran, yup, I understand what you want... searching the application doing that on freshmeat could be an idea08:50
mak_:)......no i think ineed to go through those08:51
mak_now* i need to...08:51
Flreblrdganeshran, usually I do that using my DSL modem.. it's a Fritz!Box, so it has that all included08:51
gaelfxEryn_1983_FL: I'm pretty sure GParted can't even pull off that magic08:51
Evo11far as l know yes l have cos it was working up till 2days ago08:51
phil_in_londonEvol1, have you been changing any rights on the server at all? Been using chmod or chgrp lately?08:51
Evo11no nothing at all08:52
ganeshranFlreblrd: I have a wireless data card, and they don ahve a server side logging software. But its horriblly outdated and takes 2-3 days to update08:52
Flreblrdphil_in_london, Evo11 has it stopped working since he last updated samba to a newer version08:52
phil_in_londonyeah, that was my first question08:52
Evo11once the server was first setup l would only log onto it when l think there are updates for ubuntu08:52
mak_<Flreblrd>, i wish i had been using windows now08:52
Flreblrdmak_ for a tv tuner ? arf :)08:53
Eryn_1983_FLi'l just boot a  cd  of windows xp then  hehe08:53
Evo11no. I updated the server when it had stop allowing my window machines to gain access08:53
norman_como accedo al de spanish08:53
Flreblrdganeshran, yes, you search something like MRTG in fact08:53
tensorpudding!es | norman_08:53
ubottunorman_: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.08:53
Evo11the last resort for me is to format and then re-install the server08:53
Flreblrdganeshran, trying to find some kind of similar application for you08:53
ganeshranFlreblrd: what is MRTG?08:53
mak_<Flreblrd>, bcos things are bit easy there08:53
ganeshranFlreblrd: Thanks :)08:53
gaelfxmak_: I think Mythbuntu forums might be a better place to look for help with a tuner card, most of those folks tend to know about those things08:53
gaelfxmak_: or xbmc08:54
phil_in_londonEvol1, what rw rights are set on the folder you are sharing?  Eg:   -rwxr-xr-x 1 phil phil 104 2010-09-27 12:26 test08:54
Flreblrdganeshran, MRTG is an application taking the count of traffic going through routers or SNMP-able equipment08:54
Flreblrdmak_, no pain... no gain :)08:54
Flreblrdxbmc rocks... I must say.. that's a fine development they did there08:55
Evo11I just have normal read and write options on the folders that l need to have access to from the workstations08:55
mak_gaelfx, thnx is there a network of that kind or will i have to google08:55
ganeshranFlreblrd: I found a link. I am looking to see if its useful http://www.ubuntugeek.com/bandwidth-monitoring-tools-for-linux.html08:55
phil_in_londonEvol1, have you checked lately?08:56
mak_flreblrd, well said bro08:56
icarus-cknow is it possible to execute commands at authentication with GDM ?08:56
icarus-ci'm thinking wouldn't it be a good idea if you could configure GDM to take a picture with the webcam at failed login08:56
Evo11yes l have and still can't get it to give the workstations access08:56
Kurdistanguys under ubuntu maverick rc no bootable usb disk works08:56
Flreblrdganeshran, http://www.monitortools.com/traffic/ <- that's your page to get good names of applications08:56
phil_in_londonEvol1, so, you are assuming that everything has stayed the same with the rights, you do have all the r's and w's where they need to be?08:56
Flreblrdganeshran, aaah well you got it yourself.. perfect08:57
Kurdistancan not creat ubuntu 10.04.1 usb or its stuck and nothing comes up08:57
mak_anyways thnx guyz am out of here08:57
ganeshranFlreblrd: Thanks. By the way will this slow my connection or anything? due to monitoring?08:57
Evo11yes that is correct08:57
phil_in_londonEvol1, and no one has access to change the user/pass you've set for the samba share?08:58
Evo11no one else has access to it.08:58
Evo11if there is a problem then only l have access to the server08:58
phil_in_londonEvol1, any chance the workstations have been updated? Perhaps had a firewall added, or turned on?08:59
Evo11the firewall has always been on.But l did put it off to see if l could get access to the server and that also failed09:00
ganeshranHi bandwidthd is asking me for a subnet09:00
ganeshranwhat is that?09:00
moetunes255.255.255.009:01
phil_in_londonEvol1, how are you managing the samba, editing the conf directly or swat?09:01
Flreblrdganeshran, nah, it won't slow it down a bit. All it _might_ do is take a few % CPU usage09:01
mostholyhey guys i'm having a problem with nautilus?09:01
hugo258#croogo09:01
mostholywhen i try to open my home folder or any "places" entry in the menu it tries to open with archive manager09:01
mostholyjust started randomly doing this a few minutes ago09:02
Evo11accessing it from system then samba, I haven't edited the samba.conf as lm still noob at ubuntu and dont' wanna play around with something lm not sure about09:02
mostholyanybody have any ideas?09:02
icarus-cmostholy, i've had that before but i forgot how to fix that exactly.  wanna explore a bit with me ?09:03
mostholyicarus-c, sure thanks!09:03
Flreblrdmostholy, seems your default filebrowser has been set to the archive manager instead of Nautilus09:03
mostholyFirebird, how do i changed that?09:03
jukHi, Im happy to anonce, upgraded to 10.10!09:03
Flreblrdmostholy, now that's a good question, did you try to reinstall nautilus ?09:04
icarus-cmostholy, run command  "gconftool-2 --get /desktop/gnome/applications/component_viewer/exec"09:04
icarus-cmostholy, what is the output09:04
phil_in_londonEvol1, if this is happening to all your clients all of a sudden, then something changed at the server, without knowing the contents of the conf file it would be hard to determine what.09:04
supercom32When you mount a HD in ubuntu by clicking the link, I noted it generates some kind of long code for the mount path. is this code random, or is it always the same based on some property of the HD? Regardless of what build of ubuntu you use?09:04
icarus-cFlreblrd, reinstalling nautilus shouldn't help, it is about user config09:04
Evo11how do l go about sorting the conf file out?09:04
mostholyI reinstalled, but it didn't help. icarus-c, running command now09:05
chris_hey, how can i add a program to run at start up?09:05
jukby default screen rate was set to 65, and was flaming, then a reseted it to 75, nice done!09:05
Evo11maybe l can tinker around with it seeing that the server is down09:05
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icarus-cchris_, System -> Preferences -> Start up application09:05
Flreblrdicarus-c, yes I know it's about the config.. but I never had that kind of problem.. I would stupidely enough go search in the config files in my home directory09:05
mostholyicarus-c the output is nautilus %s09:05
phil_in_londonEvol1, go look for smb.conf09:05
icarus-cchris_, then drag and drop the app you want to run from application menu09:05
phil_in_londonEvol1, and then perhaps find yourself a site that explains the contents for you.09:05
icarus-cmostholy, what about "gconftool-2 --get /desktop/gnome/session/required_components/filemanager"09:06
chris_icarus-c, i can't find Preferences in System09:06
mostholyicarus-c it says nautilus09:06
chris_i 'm using xubuntu09:06
icarus-cchris_, well,  i don't know xubuntu.  but put the .desktop file of the app to ~/.config/autostart   will do09:06
chris_icarus-c, i found that, thanks09:07
mostholywhat now?09:08
icarus-cmostholy, hold on i'm digging :P09:08
mostholyk thx icarus09:08
icarus-cmostholy, could you run  "gconf-editor"  and search for (press ctrl-F )  "file-roller"  ?09:10
icarus-cmostholy, also tick search by name & value09:10
mostholyicarus-c "pattern not found"09:10
icarus-cmostholy, look for key where doesn't belong to "/apps/file-roller"09:11
icarus-cmostholy, press ctrl -F   enter "file-roller" (without quote)09:11
mostholyi did, icarus-c09:11
mostholyit said "pattern not found09:11
icarus-cmostholy, um...  try search roller instead09:12
ionuti have a partition of 490 gbytes, and i want to resize it. but is an ext4 and  the flag is boot. (the mount point is "/ " that i think is in the root). how can i resize it09:12
mostholypattern not found09:12
moetunesionut:  have you tried gparted to do that?09:13
icarus-cmostholy, ah i think i remember how09:13
icarus-cmostholy, create a folder on desktop09:13
mostholydone09:14
icarus-cmostholy, right click it -> open with -> nautilus09:14
icarus-cmostholy, or file browser from the menu09:14
mostholynice i dont know why didnt think of that!09:15
mostholythanks icarus-c!09:15
icarus-cmostholy, it works now ?09:15
mostholyhaha guess i uninstalled gnomenu for no reason09:15
mostholyyep, works just fine!09:15
mostholythanks!09:15
icarus-cmostholy, right, now here is the fun part09:15
mostholyk...09:15
icarus-cmostholy, now i added open with achieve manager for testing purpose09:15
icarus-cdon't know how to remove it from the app list now :P09:15
mostholyhahah09:15
mostholyheh i'm not sure09:16
mostholyall this is pretty new to me09:16
icarus-cdon't worry09:16
moetunesbe happy09:16
ionutmoetunes: yes, i tried with gparted. i can't09:17
moetunesionut:  you might have data written at the end of the partition09:19
AngryParsleyI upgraded to maverick on my netbook and now ubuntu shows a login screen (it used to auto-log in) and if I click on my username and type my password, the screen goes blank for a second and prints some text, then shows the login screen again09:19
AngryParsleythe text goes by too quickly for me to read it09:19
AngryParsleybut it looks like some sort of error09:19
moetunesAngryParsley:  sounds like a graphics issue - #ubuntu+1 for maverick tho09:20
AngryParsleyd'oh09:20
AngryParsleythanks09:20
ionutmoetunes: what means that ?09:20
moetunes:]09:20
* AngryParsley moseys on over to the channel he should have asked the question in09:20
moetunesionut:  it was a guess - if there is data at the end of the partition you can't resize it - is the partition full or close to being full?09:21
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ionutmoetunes: i have 460 gbytes free :D09:22
Evo11can't seem to get the server right so lm gonna ma just re-install the server. Is there software that l can make a disk image of the server once it is installed so that next time l just have to re-mount the image?09:22
moetunesionut:  you can't resize a mounted partition I just remembered - you might need to try from a live cd09:23
ionutthat's a great ideea. i forgot that tooooo. thans bro09:23
moetunesnp :]09:24
moetunesEvo11:  try mindi and mondo apps09:25
moetunes!info mindi09:25
ubottumindi (source: mindi): creates boot/root disks based on your system. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:2.0.4-1ubuntu1 (lucid), package size 148 kB, installed size 604 kB (Only available for amd64 i386 ia64)09:25
moetunes!info mondo09:25
ubottumondo (source: mondo): powerful disaster recovery suite. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:2.2.7-2.1 (lucid), package size 449 kB, installed size 1252 kB (Only available for amd64 i386 all)09:25
supercom32When you mount a HD in ubuntu by clicking the link, I noted it generates some kind of long code for the mount path. is this code random, or is it always the same based on some property of the HD? Regardless of what build of ubuntu you use?09:25
Evo11k will try them thx09:25
moetunessupercom32:  prob something to do with the uuid09:26
moetunes!uuid09:26
ubottuTo see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell: « sudo blkid » (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)09:26
debuggerboyEvo11: you can use dd command to take a backup of your HDD like below,  dd -bs=32M if=/dev/sda | bzip2 > /mnt/usb-hdd/sda_backup.bz209:28
moetunesthat's a nice command :]09:29
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moetunesmaybe sda1 tho09:29
lozoothey can anyone help me? i just installed ubuntu and when i try to start it up i hear a sound but my screen stay black.09:29
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moetuneslozoot:  that'll be something with the graphics that is causing an issue - do you know the graphics card?09:31
lozootnvidia geforce 6150le09:31
chaterzzzzhow can i solve that: Firefox no sabe cómo abrir esta dirección, porque el protocolo (ed2k) no está asociado con ningún program09:31
chris_hi, i installed xubuntu with the command "live xforcevesa"    but i got a black screen while i restart, how to fix it?09:32
moetuneschaterzzzz:  is that portuguese?09:32
chaterzzzzspanish09:32
moetunes!es09:32
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.09:32
moetunesI can't read it...09:32
chaterzzzzmm.. how to asociate the ed2k with ff and an aplication or program09:32
chaterzzzzok.09:33
jukHi, Im happy to anounce that upgraded to 10.10!09:35
mtx_initjuk great, now you are forbidden from talking in this channel09:36
dugger5688But luckily the people in #ubuntu+1 are also there to help!09:36
jukmtx_init: haha yeah, thanks!09:37
lozoothey can anyone help me? i just installed ubuntu and when i try to start it up i hear a sound but my screen stays black.  my video card is a nvidia geforce 6150le.09:40
tensorpuddinglozoot: Does it run to a BIOS POST screen?09:41
tensorpuddinglozoot: Are you sure that your monitor is working properly, and is hooked up to the computer correctly?09:42
lozootyes im sure its hooked up properly and working im on my xp partition now.09:43
juklozoot: have you installed nvidia drivers?09:43
tensorpuddinglozoot: Okay, so when you choose Ubuntu at the GRUB boot menu, it doesn't work?09:43
lozoot@tensorpudding   yep.09:44
tensorpuddinglozoot: Have you tried the recovery mode option?09:44
lozootno i have not.   i'll do that now brb.09:44
tensorpuddingRecovery mode should boot to a console.09:45
tensorpuddingIf it is a video problem, recovery mode should work fine.09:45
lozootokay,09:45
lozootbrb.,09:45
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chris_hi, i installed xubuntu with the command "live xforcevesa"    but i got a black screen while i restart, how to fix it?09:45
duleephi09:45
ugliefroganyone here a mythtv user?...i cant hear sound during live tv...the mythtv-users channel offer no help...09:46
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duleepi encrypted directory now i want to decrypt that directory. anybody know how to do this?09:49
AbhiJitduleep, you cant09:50
AbhiJitduleep, backup your data delete encrypted partition and create new normal partition09:50
duleephey i want to get my data09:50
duleepin that partition09:51
duleepcan u tell to me how to get my data09:51
AbhiJitduleep, and you cant access that partition?09:51
lozootokay  i tried recovery mode it flashed a bunch of text  then went to black.09:51
duleepi can only show 2 files09:52
AbhiJitduleep, you cannot access that encrypted partition?09:53
duleepreadme .txt and Access-your-private data.destop09:53
micheleitaliano09:53
nobarkinghttp://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=wiretapping-quantum-encryption09:53
bazhangnobarking, ?09:53
duleepi can't open09:53
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micheleitaliano09:54
bazhangnobarking, support question re: ubuntu for that?09:54
moetunes!it | michele09:54
ubottumichele: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)09:54
bazhangnobarking, crossposting non support stuff not OK; #ubuntu-offtopic for that09:56
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duleep i encrypted directory now i want to decrypt that directory. anybody know how to do this?10:01
UweBollsFunderHi10:01
duleep i encrypted directory now i want to decrypt that directory. anybody know how to do this?10:02
duleepi have a problem10:02
dwarderi have a launcher on my desktop, how do i assign shortcut to it?10:02
UweBollsFundercan someone help me set up a private Samba share, ie one that people can only open if they are a valid user?  I created a user using adduser, gave him a samba password with smbpasswd, and created a conf file with "valid users = someuser" but anonymous can still access it10:02
UweBollsFunder(albeit in read only)10:02
duleephello10:03
duleepanyone know how to decrypt partition?10:03
lozoothey can anyone help me? i just installed ubuntu and when i try to start it up i hear a sound but my screen stays black. ..10:04
chenyuweihi10:04
dwarderhow do i launch program on certain shortcut10:04
moetuneslozoot:  that'll be something with the graphics that is causing an issue - do you know the graphics card? - like i asked earlier...10:04
lozooti answered that before10:05
chenyuwei你们好10:05
lozootits a nvidia geforce 6150le10:05
dwarder!ch10:05
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moetunes!who | lozoot sorry I missed it10:05
ubottulozoot sorry I missed it: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)10:05
dwarder!china10:05
ubottuFor Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道: #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk10:05
chenyuwei怎么用软件阿10:05
moetuneslozoot:  using the default driver?10:06
lozooti guess so.10:06
moetuneslozoot:  it never let you in after you installed?10:06
lozootyep.10:06
araelHi guys10:07
juk!nvidia | lozoot10:07
ubottulozoot: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto10:07
araelis there somebody here that uses octave?10:07
chenyuwei有说中文的吗?10:07
juk!zh | chenyuwei10:07
ubottuchenyuwei: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道: #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk10:07
duleep i encrypted directory now i want to decrypt that directory. anybody know how to do this?10:07
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araelany octave users here?10:07
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moetuneslozoot:  at the boot prompt you can press F1 and get boot options - iirc safe graphics is one of the options - does that boot?10:08
araelany octave users here?10:08
araeldoes somebody here use octave?10:08
dwarderarael: what is it?10:09
duleephello can u help to me10:09
lozooti haven't tried that yet the ubuntu is installed on this computer so i'll have to restart now want me to do that?10:09
AbhiJitarael, you want to learn octave?10:09
araelhi dwarder10:09
dwarderduleep: !ask10:09
araelno just a technical question10:09
duleep i encrypted directory now i want to decrypt that directory. anybody know how to do this?10:09
dwarder!ask | duleep10:09
ubottuduleep: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)10:09
araelon my machine 10.0410:09
araelin octave cli10:09
moetuneslozoot:  worth a try10:09
lozootokay brb10:09
araelI cannot add spaces after commands10:09
araelis this a setting or a bug?10:09
sacarlsonduleep: what did you use what software to encrypt your directory?  do you have the keys or passwords?10:09
araelI mean10:09
duleep:)10:09
araelI type function and try to add a space but the space is not added10:10
araelit seems that the space bar is disabled10:10
duleepthnx ur advice i'm new to use irc10:10
moetunesduleep:  afaik you can't undo an encryption like AbhiJit said earlier10:10
araelsometimes tab works but the space bar does not10:10
araelcould you please check on your machine?10:10
duleepdon't use any sf10:10
AbhiJitduleep, http://www.theirishpenguin.com/2010/09/26/accessing-your-encrypted-home-directory-in-ubuntu/10:11
moetunesAbhiJit:  :]10:11
duleepwhen ubuntu install that asked do u want to encrypt this partition?10:11
duleepi gave that yes10:12
araelare there any user that has octave installed? I need to check something10:12
duleepand after i reinstall ubuntu10:12
sacarlsonduleep: just login to the account that was encrypted and it should auto decrypt10:12
araelare there any octave user here?10:12
duleepnow i can't access that partition10:12
araeldear god, nobody here is using octave?10:13
tensorpudding!ask | arael10:13
ubottuarael: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)10:13
araelI just asked10:13
duleepi don't have that account b'caz i format and reinstall ubuntu10:13
AbhiJitduleep, do you read the link i gave you?10:13
araeldoes the space bar in your octave client work or not?10:14
tensorpuddingyes10:14
tensorpuddingif by octave client you mean the interpreter10:14
araelwhat version are you using10:14
araelyes10:14
sacarlsonduleep: you must not have they key or the passwords?10:14
araelI mean the interprter10:14
araelI mean the interpreter10:14
duleepnot yet i'll now...10:14
tensorpuddingthe one that's in lucid10:14
araelyes10:14
araelI tried octave3.0 and octave3.410:15
sacarlsonduleep: without those you can forget they ever existed10:15
lozootokay when my computer starts up  and i get to the boot menu i see ubuntu  ubuntu(recovery mode  2 memory test things and xp    neither of the ubuntu options work10:15
araeland octave in interactive mode has this strange problem10:15
duleepya10:15
tensorpuddingarael: it sounds like it could be a problem with your keyboard?10:15
araelthe space does not work10:15
araelbut I'm typing here10:16
duleepif i have how can do this10:16
araeland as you can see my space bar works well10:16
tensorpuddingarael: you're running it inside the terminal right?10:16
araelyes10:16
araelgnome-terminal10:16
tensorpuddingthat's pretty odd then10:16
haarphello. im rnning another distro at the moment and need access to my encrypted home of the ubuntu install. the kernel supports ecryptfs, what are the mount options i need to access the home?10:16
araelyea10:16
lozootmoetunes:  okay when my computer starts up  and i get to the boot menu i see ubuntu  ubuntu(recovery mode  2 memory test things and xp10:16
duleep<sacarlson> thanx ur link10:16
araelI tried octave on OSX and no problems10:16
araelsame thing in xterm10:17
araelwhat version of octave are you using?10:17
tensorpuddingarael: i suppose it could be a bug in octave10:17
moetuneslozoot:  sorry I was thinking of the live cd - I led you astray there10:17
lozootokay, lmao.10:17
araelhm...could be10:17
moetunesI am too10:17
tensorpuddingarael: 3.2 here10:18
araelok10:18
ZeatingHi10:18
st__can I symlink stuff in /dev/folder?10:18
moetuneslozoot:  choose the recovery option - you can read the X log from there10:18
araelwell thank you10:18
araelbye10:19
lozooti tried that.10:19
tensorpuddingarael: there might be a bug filed for it10:19
lozootit flashed up some text10:19
lozootthen went black10:19
ZeatingI'm pretty new and can someone tell me exactly what this is.. "4. Enter the APT line below that corresponds to your Ubuntu version that starts with "deb" lol10:19
chromeytest10:19
araelI searched for bug reports10:19
araelbut seems that I'm the only one having this problem10:19
tensorpuddingarael: on launchpad and on octave's bugtracker?10:19
st__Zeating, "deb REPOURL DISTRO BRANCH1 [BRANCH2...]"10:20
moetuneslozoot:  that is what it does - then it gives a prompt like in the terminal - the you do   cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | less10:20
Zeatingso what would i type in if i asks me10:20
moetunesand look for errors10:20
Zeatingif i'm using ubuntu 10.04 64bit10:20
moetunesZeating:  what are you trying to do where it asks you that?10:21
araelyea10:21
araelno space bar problems reported so far10:21
lozootit didn't show me anything after the text at first then the light on my moniter went yellow like it does when my computer is off.10:21
Zeatingtrying to get the latest version of banshee and it wants me to add a ppa or something to software sources10:21
Zeatinghttps://launchpad.net/~banshee-team/+archive/ppa10:22
araelwell...I'll just stick to octave on osx...there's not much to do...thank you all10:22
araelbye10:22
st__Zeating, type deb, URL, lucid, main separating them with spaces10:22
moetuneslozoot:  seems there is a major issue with that graphics card - I don't use nvidia so don't know what else to suggest - if the tty won't work...10:23
Zeatingthink that worked st10:23
Zeatingthankyou10:24
juklozoot: I have just upgraded to maverick ans did same steps !nvidia looks even nicer then in 10.0410:25
moetunesjuk:  lozoot can't boot into the os...10:26
jukmoetunes: live cd?10:27
moetunesjuk:  fresh install10:27
BaughnIs there any way I can install the -dev packages for *all* installed libraries, instead of having to manually name the ones I need? (Which inevitably means recompiling..)10:27
jukmoetunes: yeah why not?10:27
moetunesjuk:  he just gets a blank screen10:27
familyoutlawCan anyone help with JavaFIBS backgammon client on Lucid Lynx?10:27
moetunesjuk:  moetunes> lozoot:  seems there is a major issue with that graphics card - I don't use nvidia so don't know what else to suggest - if the tty won't work...10:28
familyoutlawI installed it and can't get see the pips on the dice.10:28
lozootmoetunes: i've had ubuntu installed on this computer before a while ago  its was an older version of ubuntu. it worked fune  maybe i should try installing an older version then updating?10:28
lozootfine*10:28
jukmoetunes: I guess major issue with hardware rightly10:28
moetuneslozoot:  it might be a kernel issue or something with the X driver I don't know - upgrading from an older distro will just get you to where you are now...10:29
avihHi, testing, can someone pls confirm s/he can read this?10:30
alexis_hi everyone, i've got a problem with my new ubuntu 10.10, i upgraded yesterday from 10.04 and now I don't have sound-applet running anymore, can anyone help me plz ?10:30
moetuneslozoot:  in    www.google.com/linux   search for your card number and ubuntu10:31
mindhaltavih: i can read that10:31
dragonscreamer010:31
avihmindhalt: thx m8.10:31
mindhaltavih: np10:31
dwarderwhat do you use for web development10:33
Edward_Elricnetbeans10:33
lozootmoetunes: i searched  "nvidia 6150 le ubuntu"  what sould i be looking for?10:33
lozootshould*10:33
Edward_Elricservlets jsps10:33
alexis_anyone could help me plz ?10:34
moetuneslozoot:  a link that mentions solved or anything similar10:34
moetunesalexis_:  you need to ask in #ubuntu+110:35
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alexis_moetunes: ok thank you10:36
moetunesnp :]10:36
ernieHello all.  I'm trying to import mbox folders into evolution mail.  the problem is that they are being imported as a single email.  for instance.  folder xxx has 10 emails in it.  I import it and everything looks fine but when I go to the folder there is only one email in it and it is marked with a question mark.  any help here?10:36
moetunes9 days 'till this is the maverick channel10:36
werew433hellow guyz I'l want to make driver for my ati card on 10.4 where can I find developers?10:37
juk!ati | werew43310:37
ubottuwerew433: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto10:37
mawst#ubuntu-dev maybe?10:38
mawst*shrug*10:38
werew433thanks10:38
mawstnp10:38
lozootmoetunes: i dont see anything that says solved   try lookin thru the search yourself and see if anything there might help you help me10:38
tensorpuddingthis channel will still support old versions of ubuntu for a while yet though10:38
valadaresi'm cannot use internet 3g in Ubuntu (i already try Vodafone10:40
lozootbrb10:41
FriarIs there a way to make my evolution mail open on workspace 2 every time I open it regardless of which workspace I'm on when I open it?10:42
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lozootback10:45
phoenix_there is a software which works in 9.10. when i install it in 10.04 . it says it needs old kernel. can it be some how run in a new kernel10:46
lozootMoetunes: you there?10:46
moetuneslozoot:  yep - I'm too busy to do your searches for you and read lots of web pages tho10:47
moetunesFriar:  the only window manager I've found that can do that is fluxbox10:47
navetzcan somone please tell me how to use dpkg to resetup my xorg? I tried to install propritary drivers for my ati card and everything broke. I stopped using them but it is still very sluggish10:48
razz1I Installed XP guest using virtualbox with all the updates and the programs I need for work. I would like the present state to be frozen so that I can go back to it if some thing goes wrong in future. This way I will not have to start from scratch. What method should I use snapshots or clonehd?10:48
lozootmoetunes: okay, do you think that updating to the 10.10 rc would work?10:48
tensorpuddingphoenix_: what software is that10:49
moetuneslozoot:  I couldn't say - I don't know where the issue is and where it needs to be fixed10:49
phoenix_bluetooth software. bluesoleil10:49
tensorpuddingphoenix_: you built this by hand?10:50
icarus-cst__, you could make symlink to /dev  .   like  ln  -s /dev/stdout  ~/stdout10:50
lozootmoetunes: well, i cant think of another option so im gonna try.10:50
phoenix_tensorpudding: downloaded from the hardware's webpage10:50
icarus-crazz1, snapshot10:50
mxe5Is there another hard drive app besides Disk Usage Analyzer that would be a good one to use ? ?10:50
tensorpuddingphoenix_: it's almost surely tied to the kernel you compiled the driver with10:50
moetuneslozoot:  good luck :]10:50
lozootmoetunes: thank you.10:51
icarus-cmxe5, what sort of tool you want10:51
mxe5Running 10.410:51
tensorpuddingphoenix_: you probably have to build it again against the new kernel's sources, and do that every time you upgrade the kernel10:51
phoenix_tensorpudding: i just downloaded the deb10:51
phoenix_tensorpudding: i know that but i dont have the source10:51
phoenix_tensorpudding: i have only the compiled deb10:51
tensorpuddingphoenix_: you need to get the deb that matches your kernel version, then10:52
mxe5icarus-c: Something that would be a nice GUI that would give me a more detailed output.10:52
phoenix_tensorpudding: they stoped support for linux10:52
icarus-cmxe5, what sort of information?  like  usage analysis ?10:52
phoenix_tensorpudding: only available for 9.1010:52
mxe5icarus-c: Yup10:52
icarus-cmxe5, SMART data? disk properties?...etc10:53
mxe5icarus-c: Any of those would be ok.10:53
tensorpuddingphoenix_: they stopped development?10:53
phoenix_tensorpudding: ya for linux10:54
mxe5icarus-c: Disk properties, how much soace is left, what files are taking more room, etc. etc.10:54
icarus-cmxe5, gnome disk usage analysis is pretty decent already.  and for disk properties you could try palimpsest10:54
mxe5icarus-c: Opps I meant "space"10:55
tensorpuddingphoenix_: you should probably find some kind of replacement for it then10:55
icarus-cmxe5, doesn't gnome disk usage analysis do the task?10:56
phoenix_the default bluetooth app is not able to pair10:56
mxe5icarus-c: How about something that would give you report of the health or a type of disk chk?10:56
xukunhow can start my ubuntu os in safe mode. If I hit esc during the reboot it just starts normal mode? thanks10:56
icarus-cmxe5, that's about SMART data.  palimpsest does that10:56
icarus-cmxe5, gsmartcontrol also10:56
tensorpuddingphoenix_: if they don't support ubuntu anymore, you'll not be able to upgrade ubuntu any further10:57
mxe5icarus-c: Cool - Thanks much Will take a look see....10:57
tensorpuddingphoenix_: and keep using it10:57
icarus-cmxe5, oops palimpsest doesn't do smart :P10:57
xukunanybody please. I'm desperate10:57
moetunes!info smartmontools10:57
mxe5icarus-c: ok10:57
ubottusmartmontools (source: smartmontools): control and monitor storage systems using S.M.A.R.T.. In component main, is optional. Version 5.38-3ubuntu3 (lucid), package size 323 kB, installed size 804 kB10:57
icarus-cmxe5, and for disk partitioning/file system, you could use gparted10:58
tensorpuddingxukun: choose the recovery mode in the grub menu10:58
tensorpuddingxukun: hit escape after the bios screen but before the ubuntu screen pops up10:58
xukuntensorpudding, that is the problem. I can't see the the grub menu10:58
xukuntensorpudding, Ok did that but I will try again10:59
mxe5icarus-c: Yea actually had forgotten how great that app is - looked at it 8/9 months ago and had forgotten about it.10:59
TiKtensorpudding: no you hold down shift for grub210:59
TiKescape is grub110:59
tensorpuddingdammit, i keep forgetting that11:00
tensorpuddingthe wiki article on recovery mode needs to be updated11:00
tensorpuddingwell, it mentions the fact that you need to hold shift, but in a footnote11:00
tensorpuddingif i wasn't lazy i'd register and edit the article11:01
xukuntensorpudding, thanks a lot that dit the job. I was pushing the esc way too early11:03
dwarderis it possible to cut files in mc?11:04
dwarderand paste them11:04
st__dwarder, i doubt it11:04
mxe5icarus-c: Just did a "hard drive" search in "Ubuntu Software Center" and found "GSmartControl" that looks promising.11:04
mxe5icarus-c: Also "Graphical Disk Map" Thanks for input.11:06
dwarderwhat shortcuts do you use to move between virtual desktops?11:06
Friarmoetunes, does fluxbox replace nautilus? or just run with it?11:06
oCeandwarder: ctrl-alt-arrow11:07
moetunesFriar:  you can replace metacity - gnomes window manager - with fluxbox - nautilus is the file manager11:07
moetunes!info fluxbox11:07
ubottufluxbox (source: fluxbox): Highly configurable and low resource X11 Window manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.1-6 (lucid), package size 1297 kB, installed size 4144 kB11:07
moetunes!info metacity11:08
ubottumetacity (source: metacity): lightweight GTK+ window manager. In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.30.1-0ubuntu1 (lucid), package size 245 kB, installed size 664 kB11:08
dwarderoCean: do you switch only with them? do you use numbers?11:08
Friarmoetunes, thanks...I'll give it a shot...I see it in the repos. Plus I'm using the release candidate for 10.10 and just installed yesterday....no risk if it really messes things up.11:08
dwarderoCean: like winkey+111:08
dwarderto move to desktop one11:08
moetunesFriar:  good luck :)11:09
nurvwhats a good port to use for qbittorent?11:10
tensorpuddingdwarder: you probably can configure those11:10
droopal ok, back again, this is some of the thing I get it starts with an orange * pound will not start unconfigured * please configure: afterwards, set startup = 1 in /etc/default/pound/11:11
Palanglunghello11:11
dwardertensorpudding: yes you do, but i would like to know what key other users use11:11
droopalplus on my keyboards, and I just bought two new ones, the numbers on the right hand side of the keyboard dont work, on old or new keyboards, number lock is on, but they dont work.11:11
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droopalcan anybody help with those two questions please?11:12
Palanglunghello all11:12
leeb9972gmorning from Scotland11:13
^mNotIntelligenthi all !11:13
egoleohello11:14
egoleoanyone knows a cafe timer for ubuntu11:14
egoleowith clients as windows11:14
TiKhuh11:14
TiKcafe timer?11:14
st__egoleo, which will log them off after their billing time?11:15
egoleoyes11:15
egoleoyes all that a cafe timer can have11:15
Palanglungwhic ubuntu support cdma modem11:15
mindhaltinternet cafe?11:15
egoleoyes internet cafe11:15
tensorpuddingdroopal: can you state that first problem in a way that's not completely confusing?11:16
AbhiJitegoleo, what is cafe timer?11:16
egoleoit will be able to logdown users11:16
^mNotIntelligentPalanglung, i gues its already there.... nothing specific to any flavor...11:16
tensorpuddingdroopal: as for the second, have you looked at Ubuntu's keyboard settings?11:16
egoleoi mean internet cafe management software, includes billing and user management11:16
droopalnot sure what you mean11:16
droopalabout the first one,11:17
st__AbhiJit, software which enables and disables workstations/internet connection by timer11:17
tensorpuddingdroopal: The keyboard might be listed under Keyboard Preferences -> Layouts -> Keyboard Model11:17
d3v0hello im having problems mounting my western digital portable hard drive, nothing seems to happen when i connect it11:17
d3v0other hard drives/ usb's work11:17
sacarlsonegoleo: I wrote a simple one in php that uses ecommerce as the store to buy service11:17
egoleoanyone got cafe timer11:17
AbhiJitst__, hmm11:17
egoleoso u selling it?11:17
st__d3v0, is it listed in USB tree11:17
egoleoi want free version plse11:18
tensorpuddingdroopal: trying to read what you wrote is impossible, the english is incoherent11:18
mawstYou could probably chron something remotely egoleo11:18
mawstWrite a script or something11:18
st__egoleo, such things are usually custom-made11:18
droopalwith the pound thing, Installed 10.10 last night, on 10.04 I couldnt uise the function Ctrl+Alt+F1 or above11:18
sacarlsonegoleo:  it is distributed as a franchise11:18
d3v0st__ where is usb tree11:18
AbhiJitegoleo, may i havea detailed requirement? you can pastebinit it. i am a student and i want to know the requirement i wll create this project some time11:18
egoleost__ but can i get just a free cafe timer that just works11:18
st__d3v0, lsusb or something...11:18
droopalin the install, I notivced it said couldnt install pound11:18
st__egoleo, try to google it, because it's rare kind of program11:19
sacarlsonegoleo: there are many11:19
tensorpuddingdroopal: what is pound?11:19
droopalnow, this morning, found out I could use Ctrl etc and got to F7 and in there it talked about pound11:19
egoleoso can u give me some plse11:19
sacarlsonegoleo: I couldn't get the free ones I found to work so I wrote one11:20
droopalthat is what I am trying to find out, what I posted is the message on Ctrl+Alt+F711:20
st__!about pound11:20
st__!package pound11:20
droopalI dont know what pound is either, which is why I am asking,11:20
tensorpuddingit sounds like pound needs configuration11:20
cool-aidehello11:20
tensorpuddingit's some kind of HTTP reverse proxy server11:20
d3v0st__ no it doesnt11:20
homecablecheck this video out of my freind at work http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlRL7axE1To :P11:21
tensorpuddingnot sure why it would be installed on your machine11:21
st__droopal, try sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow pound11:21
d3v0st__ it comes up as Initio Corporation11:21
cool-aidei need help...i have ubuntu 10.04...i want to reformat and install new fresh ubuntu 10.04 how can i do it without losing my files?11:21
homecableits so funny11:21
droopalorange * pound will not start unconfigured * please configure: afterwards, set startup = 1 in /etc/default/pound/11:21
droopalthat is the message again11:21
Leroyhomecable: w0t?11:21
droopalok, will give it a try now, one sec11:21
tensorpuddingdroopal: if you don't know what it is, you probably installed it through some other package11:21
st__cool-aide, remove all directories in /, except boot, root and home11:22
icarus-cegoleo, i only know that command "skill -KILL -u USERNAME  " could force a user to logout11:22
oCeanhomecable: do not paste that in here11:22
icarus-cegoleo, and you may set when to run that command with a "at" job11:22
droopal * pound will not start unconfigured.11:22
droopal * Please configure; afterwards, set startup=1 in /etc/default/pound.11:22
droopal * pound will not start unconfigured.11:22
droopal * Please configure; afterwards, set startup=1 in /etc/default/pound.11:22
FloodBot4droopal: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.11:22
droopalthat is what I get when I enter that command11:22
egoleowell is not abt loging them out11:22
cool-aidest__: actually i'm running it in a dual boot...i got win7 as my other os...is it safe? without losing my files from win7 os?11:22
st__cool-aide, definitely11:23
malef!list11:23
ubottuThis is not a file sharing channel (or network); be sure to read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot »11:23
icarus-cegoleo, isn't a "cafe timer" meant to logoff the user after their time allowance?11:23
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st__cool-aide, of course if you will be careful about disk partitioning11:23
tensorpuddingdroopal: do you know why you'd have pound installed? do you run an HTTP server on the machine?11:23
egoleoyes its suppose to11:23
st__cool-aide, some distros offer idiotic option to 'use all disk'11:23
egoleobut is got more stuffs too11:23
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icarus-cegoleo, such as?...11:24
droopalnot that I know of, it just came up11:24
egoleouser management and billing11:24
tensorpuddingdroopal: try removing it11:24
droopalhow do I remove it?11:24
tensorpuddingdroopal: use 'sudo aptitude remove pound'11:24
droopalok, one sec11:24
icarus-cegoleo, you may also halt a user and continue11:24
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egoleook11:25
icarus-cegoleo, say halt  (like freeze) a user session when their time's up,  and they could pay and you continue their session?11:25
icarus-cegoleo, "man skill" for detail11:25
egoleook11:25
egoleobut the client machines are windows11:25
icarus-cegoleo, and you could schedule task with  at11:25
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droopaldid that, looked in Ctrl+Alt+F7 and the message is still there, must have to reboot, will try that in a minute11:26
icarus-cegoleo, that's way beyond what i know :P11:26
st__egoleo, cybera, direqcafe, kfemate etc11:26
egoleothnx st__ checking them out11:26
mawstegoleo, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cafebuntu11:26
egoleomawst is not ready yet11:27
mawstSeems there are some projects towards the bottom that do what you want.11:27
pankaj_sharmast__  u r online 24*7 ?11:27
d3v0i have a problem with my western digital external hard drive. sometimes it shows up in lsusb but then goes away11:27
egoleoyeah sure11:28
st__pankaj_sharma, no of course11:28
pankaj_sharmajust kidding11:28
droopalabout the keyboard thing. Keyboard Preferences -> Layouts -> Keyboard Model cant find any of the models I have, but they did work on 10.04 before an update a while back.11:29
moetunesd3v0:  try a diff usb port maybe11:29
d3v0is it possible my power supply isnt strong enough?11:30
st__droopal, try Evdev keyboard11:30
Marco972salut11:30
egoleost__ thanks alot11:31
Marco972hello all11:31
pankaj_sharmahi11:31
moetunesd3v0:  it is  amatter of eliminating possibilities - the usb port is the easiest to test - try a diff one11:31
d3v0ive tried11:32
droopalst_: just tried that it didnt work11:32
d3v02/5 work11:32
d3v0the other ports dont read at all11:32
d3v0the two ports that do work boot up11:32
d3v0then i hear a click11:32
d3v0and it disappears from lsusb11:32
jukafter dpkg-reconfigure finished got: dpkg-maintscript-helper: error: couldn't identify the package' is it bad?11:32
moetunesd3v0:  seems it might be the comps h/ware at fault - does it work ok in another comp?11:32
d3v0yeh it works fine in other pcs11:33
d3v0the same port on my computer works with 1gb usb sticks11:33
moetunesd3v0:  that should tell you everything11:33
moetuneso11:33
inktrihow can i install the package libpoppler-glib4 on 10.10 beta? i need it for the latex editor called gummi11:33
droopalbrb going to reboot11:34
pankaj_sharmawhere i can find the source code of vim? plz tell me11:34
Marco972exit11:34
st__pankaj_sharma, apt-get source vim11:35
tensorpuddinginktri: libpoppler is probably available in the repos11:35
pankaj_sharmaty st__11:35
st__tensorpudding, it's binding library11:35
tensorpuddinginktri: do you need 4? libpoppler-glib5 is in the repos11:36
inktritensorpudding: i need 4 because gummi currently depends on 4, not 511:36
st__inktri, try to edit configure11:36
st__inktri, are you compiling it yourself?11:37
inktrist__: no i was just using apt-get install11:37
st__inktri, then submit a bug about this package11:37
oCeaninktri: for 10.10 issues, visit #ubuntu+111:38
st__don't send people to oscure #distro chanenls which have 2d6 resident trolls, 1d10 lurkers and 1d4 knowlegeable people who are AFK11:39
st__*obscure11:40
oCeanst__: if you are talking about #ubuntu+1, that's channel policy not to support beta's here11:41
kworklol11:41
pankaj_sharmalol11:41
moetunes!lol11:42
ubottuPlease don't use "LOL" and "OMG" and so forth on a regular basis. This is IRC, not IM, and using those lines on their own is not required, and it is rather annoying to the rest of the people in the channel; thanks.11:42
* kwork is laughing out loud11:42
st__then on 10 october something changes and magically it will be right channel to discuss it. it reeks of bureacracy11:42
kworkmoetunes better?11:42
bilalakhtarst__: After 10/10/10 #ubuntu+1 will redirect to this channel11:42
moetuneskwork:  what's better?11:42
kworkmoetunes you forgot what you just said?=11:43
kworkmoetunes had the bot say even11:43
ikoniabilalakhtar: where did you get the release date 10th October11:43
greppyst__: it reeks of supporting things in the right places.  beta vs release issues and procedures can be very different.11:43
bilalakhtarikonia: Hi matt, its here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MaverickReleaseSchedule11:43
tensorpuddingthere's something awesome about releasing something on 10-10-10, you know11:43
AbhiJit8 days remaining11:44
ikoniabilalakhtar: thanks11:44
pankaj_sharmabilalakhtar: hindi jante ho bhai?11:44
AbhiJit!in | pankaj_sharma11:44
ubottupankaj_sharma: #ubuntu-in is the channel for Ubuntu in India11:44
moetuneskwork:  you did lol then asked if it's better? - what's better or is english not your native tongue?11:44
bilalakhtarpankaj_sharma: haan, par hindi support ke liye #ubuntu-in behtar hai11:44
pankaj_sharmabilalakhtar: wah koi nahi hain support ke liye11:45
juk!ot11:45
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!11:45
bilalakhtarpankaj_sharma: Then ask in english here11:45
pankaj_sharmaok billu11:45
AbhiJit!en | pankaj_sharma11:45
ubottupankaj_sharma: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList11:45
st__tensorpudding, it reeks of Soviets btw11:46
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kworkmoetunes i asked you if using laughing out loud in emotion is better then typin out lol, and yes english isnt my native language11:46
AbhiJit:o11:46
oCeanmoetunes: kwork please drop it and move on11:46
tensorpuddingthat guy's been obnoxious for a while11:46
moetuneskwork:  you seem dumb - I'll just put you on ignore11:47
linzhavonhi, all.11:47
kworkmoetunes thanks :)11:47
jukmoetunes: how you doing that, it's googd know11:47
linzhavonanyone use GTK programming?11:47
ikoniamoetunes: please don't start with name calling11:47
TiKeveryoneis dumb11:47
AbhiJitlinzhavon, #gtk+11:47
kworkhe just needed to say smt to boost hes ego11:47
ikonialinzhavon: a little, plus there isa  gtk channel11:47
ikoniaTiK: please stop11:48
moetunesikonia:  apologies but he set a precedent11:48
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ikoniamoetunes: then dont rise to it11:48
moetunesk11:48
TiKstop what?11:48
TiKi dont follow11:48
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ikoniakwork: who are you talking about ?11:48
linzhavonabhiJit, thank u.11:49
pankaj_sharmais vi and vim same?11:49
greppypankaj_sharma: for most people, yes.11:49
ikoniapankaj_sharma: it's a symlink to vim11:49
tensorpuddingpankaj_sharma: no11:49
AbhiJitpankaj_sharma, no11:49
AbhiJitpankaj_sharma, vim is improved vi11:49
pankaj_sharmaok11:49
TiKno way pico ftw11:49
ikoniaTiK: he's not asking for an opinion, he's asking if its the same application11:50
TiKikonia: i have no idea I was just saying everoyne is dumb we jsut use the OS its not like we created it11:50
tensorpuddingmany systems, ubuntu included, don't have a real vi, just a symlink to vim11:51
pankaj_sharmaso why there is differnet package for vim?11:51
tensorpuddingvim is a superset of vi's features11:51
tensorpuddingwell, i lied a little, it's a symlink to vim.tiny11:51
mm1484!list11:51
ubottuThis is not a file sharing channel (or network); be sure to read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot »11:51
greppypankaj_sharma: the default install I think is for a stripped down version of vim.11:51
greppypankaj_sharma: if you actually want what is the closest to the original vi, apt-get install nvi11:52
tensorpuddingvim.tiny is like real vim, but with some of the larger features cut out11:52
Dulakthey install the stripped down version so they save space on the livecd11:52
jukvim vs nano11:52
tensorpuddingthe real vim package is the official one that is provided from upstream11:52
tensorpuddingso roughly, in terms of features, vi < vim.tiny < vim11:52
pankaj_sharmahmm11:53
greppyDulak: I think it has more to do with the features that people want/need than space, I could be wrong, but...11:53
Dulakit's very easy to install the full version, it will automatiecally be symlinked to vi and vim for you11:53
tensorpuddingnvi fits in there somewhere too11:53
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alfredofro italian chatt?11:54
tensorpudding!it | alfredo11:54
ubottualfredo: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)11:54
DulakNo it's mainly about the space, because I don't know many people that use vi that don't want say syntax highlighting, which iirc is left out of vim.tiny11:54
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alfredothanks11:54
geraudk2000Hi11:55
jg47hmhi11:55
pisi_is it possible to force do-release-upgrade -d only download the updates for a later installation ?11:55
pankaj_sharmacan u guys tell me.. where to find the code in vim (where it searches the string in a particular file). i just want the code. i have the source,but i dont know from where to start?11:55
geraudk2000please I have a probleme to read video on html511:56
pisi_I'm on a slow link but I'd like to be present when the actual update would do its stuff11:56
jg47hmyou know how to change my keyboard input language11:56
geraudk2000with chromium-browser11:56
oCeanpankaj_sharma: better ask in #vim11:56
tensorpuddingpankaj_sharma: the layout of source code might be very complicated...there's no easy way for someone unfamiliar with the source to say11:56
geraudk2000I use this website for test http://www.html5test.com/11:57
nirvanowiechi11:57
pankaj_sharmaoCean: everyone sleeping there11:57
tensorpuddinggeraudk2000: what is this problem11:57
oCeanpankaj_sharma: that does not make it an ubuntu issue, sorry11:57
nirvanowiecmy website www.hddrecovery.pl11:57
oCeannirvanowiec: why are you pasting that here?11:58
tensorpuddingnirvanowiec: this is not a bulletin board for posting advertisements11:58
geraudk2000i want to see on my screen one video with htlm511:58
geraudk2000tensorpudding: i want to see on my screen one video with htlm511:58
tensorpuddinggeraudk2000: and you don't see the video?11:59
Firebirder irc.rendez-vous.be11:59
tensorpuddinggeraudk2000: it's possible that chromium doesn't support the codec they use12:00
geraudk2000tensorpudding: no, I'don't ..on dailymotion/html5 or another website12:00
jukgeraudk2000:chromium wont play video, plugins12:00
tensorpuddinggeraudk2000: i think it supports webm, do videos on youtube work?12:00
grigoriadeshow t o change my keyboard input language???12:01
geraudk2000juk: ok12:01
jukgrigoriades: system > preferences > keyboard > layout12:01
AndroUseron windows i had a promblem playing video which were solved by installing the firefox plugins for that video type12:01
Dulakgrigoriades: System->Preferences->Keyboard12:01
pankaj_sharmacheck keyboard layout12:02
AndroUser maybe it will work on ubuntu too12:02
moetunesAndroUser:  there is a mplayer plugin for that in synaptic12:02
geraudk2000what browser support html5 on ubuntu, may be firefox 3.6.10 ??12:03
tensorpuddinggeraudk2000: chromium supports html512:03
fcnChrome and as far as i know opera supports12:04
tensorpuddinggeraudk2000: opera and firefox do as well to varying degrees12:04
Dulakthe official chrome does too12:04
geraudk2000tensorpudding: how can I do to run it under chromium?12:05
tensorpuddinggeraudk2000: what version do you have?12:05
geraudk2000the last 6.0.472.63 (59945) Ubuntu 10.0412:06
jukchromium causes to many crashes i don't use it anymore12:06
jukfirefox is great!12:06
tensorpuddingactually, now that i think of it, the version in 10.04 might predate WebM support12:06
tensorpuddingthough it should support H264.12:07
geraudk2000I just do the test on http://www.html5test.com/12:07
tensorpuddingWait, I forgot, that one isn't included by default.12:07
geraudk2000but I have 0/20 in local device12:07
tensorpuddingSo I guess it only supports Theora.12:07
tensorpuddingThat's pretty disappointing.12:08
tensorpuddingI've been happy using the official Chrome.12:08
administratorhell!12:08
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tensorpuddinggeraudk2000: The version in 10.10 will probably support WebM12:08
Dulaksame, the official chrome has been rock solid for me, and there is a repo for it so it updates nicely12:08
Krupteinthere is nobody in the wxPython channel, so I ask it here:   Does anyone know how to get the same effect as EVT_COMMAND_TEXT_ENTER but with the tab key instead of the enter key?12:09
tensorpuddinggeraudk2000: So if you wait 8 days, you can upgrade to it when it officially releases12:09
v3nd3tta``!mint12:09
ubottuLinux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu, please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org12:09
geraudk2000tensorpudding: Ok I'm looking forward ubuntu 10.1012:09
jukKruptein: just #python12:09
Krupteinjuk omfg no I did it again, :p I always type #ubuntu instead of #python12:10
tensorpuddinggeraudk2000: Your other option is to switch to Chrome, which has a PPA available to make it easy for you12:10
jukKruptein: why?12:12
geraudk2000tensorpudding: ok, You have a link for me to do it?12:12
Dulakthe official chrome (beta) played every video fine for me on this page: http://www.html5video.org/demos/12:12
Krupteinjuk I don't know :p I go to both channels a lot12:12
geraudk2000tensorpudding: I google it12:12
Dulakhttp://www.google.com/landing/chrome/beta/12:13
marco972Bonjour12:14
rww!fr12:15
ubottuCe canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr, ou #ubuntu-qc. Merci.12:15
cristinaciao!12:15
moetunes!it12:16
ubottuVai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)12:16
cristinalist!12:16
moetunescristina:  not that sort of channel12:16
AbhiJitbrasero telling install cdrdao package. but its already installed.12:17
dolphinhi!12:17
moetunesAbhiJit:  is it a version thing?12:18
AbhiJitmoetunes, cdrdao is the latest version installed12:18
moetunesAbhiJit:  and which version is brasero asking for?12:18
AbhiJitmoetunes, its not asking for version it tells that i dont have cdrdao at all install cdrdao but i have12:19
AbhiJit!pm > pankaj_sharma12:19
ubottupankaj_sharma, please see my private message12:19
moetunesAbhiJit:  if all is from the package manager then you might need to file a bug12:20
pankaj_sharmaok12:20
AbhiJitmoetunes, yah12:20
AbhiJitwe dont have a proper cd buring tool in linux12:20
AbhiJiteach time i need to guess which will work of them12:21
moetunesAbhiJit:  I prefer k3b myself12:21
AbhiJitmoetunes, cd burning tool is like casino to me! i never knows which one will work - its just luck12:21
rwwwodim wfm12:21
rwwthough it isn't point and click, so i guess that's not useful for you.12:22
AbhiJitpankaj_sharma, http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/text_editing/vim.html.en12:22
moetunesAbhiJit:  there's no reason it should be like that - is your install the default ubuntu?12:22
AbhiJitmoetunes, yes default ubuntu and when it comes to cd - luck12:22
moetunesAbhiJit:  I've never heard anyone else have that issue - nothing diff with the hardware?12:23
AbhiJitno notihng differne12:24
moetunesk12:24
AbhiJitmoetunes, now k3b is working. but if i come tomorow and insert same cd and tell k3b to do the same work as of today12:24
AbhiJitthen i am sure it will not work. and some other will work12:24
erryUm12:25
erryIdk if you can help me but12:25
erryMy laptop is... Bleeding?12:25
tensorpuddingBleeding?!12:25
moetunesAbhiJit:  to me that would suggest a hardware issue - software isn't inconsistent like that...12:25
erryYes12:25
erryThe screen has like12:25
erryliquid12:25
tensorpuddingYou mean leaking?12:25
errycoming out of it at some part12:25
rww##hardware12:25
FloodBot1erry: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.12:25
erryand it looks like it's broken12:25
errybut when i touch it it doesnt feel broken12:25
LjLit does sound like it's broken12:25
oCeanerry: that's not an ubuntu issue, so it's offtopic here12:25
errysorry12:26
AbhiJitmoetunes, yah12:26
rwwUbuntu does not cause screen stigmata.12:26
rwwand if it did, that'd be in the release notes.12:26
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AbhiJitmoetunes, do you know how to create image of cd using command line?12:27
AbhiJitiso12:27
moetunesAbhiJit:  not offhand bur\t there's plenty on the web for that12:27
moetunesAbhiJit:  not offhand but there's plenty on the web for that12:28
AbhiJitmoetunes, ok np12:28
aba_hello12:28
moetuneshello aba_12:29
oCeanAbhiJit: if cd is in /dev/cdrom, the following is often suggested: dd if=/dev/cdrom of=image.iso bs=2k12:29
alketIm trying to create a bootable usb with Maverick RC , with Startup Disk Creator, at 99% an error displays " Checksum didn't match "12:32
cheater99hi12:32
moetunesalket:  did you do the iso md5 check or ask in the 10.10 channel #ubuntu+1 ?12:33
oCeanalket: maverick issues in #ubuntu+1 channel12:33
Edward_Elric.12:33
moetunes..12:33
cheater99hi12:34
cheater99how can i configure which services start on system load?12:34
Edward_Elric...12:34
moetunes!autostart | cheater9912:34
alketmoetunes, yes i did12:34
ubottucheater99: To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session go to System>Preferences>Sessions and use the Startup Programs tab. For more information, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot12:34
xuekanthere is a new movie named "four lions",it's really funny,worths to see.12:34
cheater99there is no system->preferences->sessions12:35
oCeanxuekan: that's very offtopic here12:35
cheater99moetunes: i'm talking about things like apache, squid, etc12:35
Dice-Manon boot ?12:36
moetunescheater99:  they should be started during boot12:36
xuekanoCean:yeah,i know that, I am seeing it, and cann't help talking out.it's really worths to see.12:36
moetunes!upstart12:36
ubottuUpstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/12:36
cheater99moetunes: yes12:36
cheater99moetunes: how do i configure which ones do get started?12:36
oCeanxuekan: please don't do it again12:36
oCean!startup | cheater9912:36
ubottucheater99: To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session go to System>Preferences>Sessions and use the Startup Programs tab. For more information, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot12:36
moetunescheater99:  please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/12:36
cheater99moetunes: for example i have squid and squid3 installed, and i only want one of them to start at boot.12:36
xuekanoCean:ok.12:37
cheater99oCean: that doesn't work12:37
oCean!bum | cheater9912:37
ubottucheater99: Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto12:37
cheater99moetunes: thanks will do12:37
oCeancheater99: i meant this next one12:37
cheater99oCean: thanks :)12:37
moetunescool12:38
radiomarkHi, I wanted to test the release candidate. I downloaded the .iso and used "dd" to write it to a USB disk. But I can't boot from it? How do I make a bootable USB key?12:39
tensorpuddingunetbootin12:39
moetunes!unetbootin12:39
ubottuFor information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent12:39
cheater99ok, different question now :)12:39
moetunesradiomark:  ^^12:40
bomberyou have to uncompress the .iso file ... all you did was burn a compressed file12:40
cheater99i have had to kill synaptic (it was taking ages to select a package), this was not during install, only during selection. how do i unlock package managers now?12:40
oCeanradiomark: support for the 10.10 RC in #ubuntu+1 please (as the topic of this channel states)12:40
erUSUL!aptlock12:41
ubottuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »12:41
radiomarkoCean: Sorry, I saw my issue as general Ubuntu, and not specifically the RC12:41
cheater99ah there we go, just had to move the lock file12:41
cool-aideis this channel supporting fluxbox?12:42
cheater99another question: my bash takes ages to start up. probably because of the amount of binaries etc. how can i optimize this?12:43
erUSULcheater99: amount of binaries?12:43
erUSULcheater99: check if you do some expensive operation in ~/.bashrc12:43
cheater99dified .bashrc12:44
cheater99i hadn't modified .bashrc12:44
radiomarkCan I download the usb-creator program anywhere? Or even just do the process manually? I am not on Ubuntu, you see12:44
erUSULradiomark: should be in System>Admin...>12:45
moetunesradiomark:  it is a linux app12:45
moetunesfloodbot war12:46
erUSULcheater99: then i do not what can be cousing this... try running « bash --noprofile » is it slow too ?12:46
radiomarkmoetunes: yes, I cannot find the code or a tar.gz or similar12:46
radiomarkThe launchpad site does not have any downloads either12:47
moetunesradiomark:  it is more then likely an ubuntu app - you could browse ubuntu packages from ubuntu.com12:47
moetunes!packages12:48
ubottuYou can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !KPackageKit, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords or regex>", or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu has about 20000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!12:48
radiomarkmoetunes: hmmm, yes. This is a bit of a chicken-and-egg situation then12:48
moetuneshttp://packages.ubuntu.com12:48
cool-aidei just downloaded the ubuntu 10.04 lucid iso file...is there a way i can install fresh ubuntu distro without burning the .iso file? like i would like to install it using the terminal?12:48
moetunes!install12:48
ubottuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - Don't want to use a CD? See http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate12:48
zara212 can someone tell me how to make all files to associate with default applications which can open them properly. i mean i installed "ubuntu-tweak" and i see that there are many many audio files which are not associate with vlc. also i see that vlc just associating with 10-15 audio files. but i think vlc can open many many files from the list. so also gedit and gimp i think they are also not opens the files they had to. can we do something for it. there are mil12:49
cheater99erUSUL: let's see12:49
erUSULcool-aide: with a usb stick ?12:49
vu1kanis there any place ram usage is logged?12:49
moetunesvu1kan:  not afaik12:49
erUSULvu1kan: "free -m" ; "top" ...12:49
moetuneslogged he said...12:49
cheater99erUSUL: yes12:49
AndChat|wow12:50
moetunesuse wine for wow12:50
AndChat|hi,all12:51
vu1kantop doesn't do me any good, really, i'm wanting to know what application is suddenly sucking my ram(and i am aware of the fact that linux uses unallocated ram as a cache), i'll be watching a movie, and my ram usage will go from 40% to max in a matter of seconds...completely randomly.12:51
kworkvu1kan until it doesnot swap its okey12:51
erUSULcheater99: and what is slow? « time bash --noprofile -c "exit" » in my system is real    0m0.007s12:51
radiomarkHmmm. I have to admit defeat on this... I downloaded usb-creator.tar.gz, but all I get is some big python app. Isn't there a simple shell script (or similar) at its core which converts .iso to a USB image?12:52
kworkvu1kan top should show memory usage, can even sort by memory usage12:52
erUSULvu1kan: well top can order by memory usage ( hit M )12:52
cheater99that's funny12:52
linzhavonhi12:52
cool-aideerUSUL: if possible yes...but i got it .iso file...not yet extracted or something.....is it possible?12:53
vu1kanafter the fact? case in point: i had to zap my x server less than five minutes ago because something grabbed ahold of enough ram that i wasn't able to move my pointer\12:53
cheater99erUSUL: when i do that, it shows me very fast times. but if i type in "bash" in bash, the cursor hangs for 1-3 seconds, and i only get a prompt then.12:53
Dulakradiomark: unetbootin can convert just about any iso to a flash drive12:53
erUSULcool-aide: use unetbootin or the usb disk creator12:53
linzhavonwhen ubuntu release new version?12:53
erUSULcheater99: maybe is the terminal app ? what xterminal do you use?12:53
dmizerI have an old DELL laptop with an old PIII processor. My CPU fan is not running. There is nothing about the fan located in /proc/acpi12:53
radiomarkDulak: unetbootin is a Windows app? Unfortunately I am on Linux, or OpenBSD12:53
Dulakradiomark: it's a linux app12:54
cheater99i have done "time bash --noprofile" and pressed C-d immediately when i got the prompt. real0m4.109s user0m0.676s sys0m0.124s12:54
Dulakradiomark: there is a windows version as well iirc12:54
cheater99erUSUL: i use gnome-terminal12:54
cheater99erUSUL: i remember trying it with other things, but let's see12:54
rwwlinzhavon: hopefully the 10th of October12:54
quiescensbash with -c changes its behaviour12:54
linzhavon_rww: it's very amazing!12:55
quiescenscheater99: if you do bash --norc --noprofile it should be nearly instant, but it won't have the environment that it normally does12:56
erUSULcheater99: with crtl +d  ---> real    0m0.942s12:56
zara212can someone tell me how to make all files to associate with default applications which can open them properly. i mean i installed "ubuntu-tweak" and i see that there are many many audio files which are not associate with vlc. also i see that vlc just associating with 10-15 audio files. but i think vlc can open many many files from the list. so also gedit and gimp i think they are also not opens the files they had to. can we do something for it. there are mill12:56
cheater99i have the same problem in rxvt and xterm12:56
ManDayCan anyone tell me how Ubuntu enables multi-head output without the use of xinerama - or why xinerama is necessary if X can apparently do it without it?!?!12:56
cheater99quiescens: yes, it is instant12:56
koooridoes ubuntu have gui ?12:57
icarus-ckooori, of course12:57
cheater99quiescens: how do i go about figuring out what's up?12:57
kooorilike im kinda new to this, so ubuntu is its own operating system with GUI yeah?12:58
tensorpuddingyou can install Ubuntu Server without the GUI though12:58
vu1kankooori: yeah12:58
koooridoes it have driver support for new devices n stuff? ( question being is that im sick of windows)12:58
ManDayCan anyone tell me how Ubuntu enables multi-head output without the use of xinerama - or why xinerama is necessary if X can apparently do it without it?!?!12:58
cheater99erUSUL, quiescens: ok, the problem is definitely in ~/.bashrc    after moving it out, i get instant bash12:58
sh4d3sl4y3r_how should I create an installable USB-MEDIA for Ubuntu 10.04 from within Debian? unetbootin fails making a bootable usb12:58
icarus-ckooori, but technically the GUI shipped by ubuntu default is made by another community.  but yea, ubuntu got GUI12:58
tensorpuddingkooori: It has driver support for a lot of devices.12:58
kooori=o12:59
tensorpuddingkooori: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport/12:59
cheater99good morning tensor12:59
kooorilets say i was to install it on another pc... do i need any other software besides the ubuntu ?12:59
oCeankooori: there's a livecd exactly for your purposes: boot up, use/test ubuntu and only after that, decide what to do12:59
icarus-ckooori, uh.......ubuntu is a Linux distribution,  which distribute software12:59
kooorinice thanks for that sir :D13:00
tensorpuddingkooori: Installing Ubuntu is like installing Windows, you might need to download drivers afterwards, but in theory it provides what you need to be functional13:00
koooriso i gotta install linux then ubuntu your saying?13:00
oCeankooori: there is a *vast* collection of software which you can install/use after installing the base system13:00
icarus-ckooori, so you may consider ubuntu has thousands of software can be installed with a few clicks13:00
tensorpuddingkooori: Ubuntu is a Linux distribution, it provides all you need to start13:00
koooriah nice13:00
tensorpuddingkooori: There is a large library of software you can install afterward though13:00
koooriyou guys are very helpful :D13:00
kooorinice nice13:00
zara212can someone tell me how to make all files to associate with default applications which can open them properly. i mean i installed "ubuntu-tweak" and i see that there are many many audio files which are not associate with vlc. also i see that vlc just associating with 10-15 audio files. but i think vlc can open many many files from the list. so also gedit and gimp i think they are also not opens the files they had to. can we do something for it. there are mill13:00
linzhavon_kooori: haha13:01
rascal316316hey guys how do i map my spacebar key to a different key like the windows key on  the keyboard,My space bar is not working well13:01
oCeankooori: see here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCD13:01
radiomarkDulak: Thanks, I found the Linux version. But it is a GUI app with lots of dependencies which are not available to me13:01
tensorpuddingkooori: Not all software that you're familiar with from Windows is available though13:01
linzhavon_oh, #ubuntu is so pop.13:01
koooriahhh13:01
tensorpuddingkooori: For instance, there is no Microsoft Office, but there is the alternative Open Office13:02
ManDayWhat does Ubuntu use to realize Dual Screen setup?13:02
cheater99ok13:02
quiescenscheater99: in all likelyhood the slowest part of your .bashrc (assuming it is mostly default) is the part right at the end about completion13:02
cheater99i have found the problem13:02
tensorpuddingkooori: If you have some applications in mind you should check to see if they are available for Linux.13:02
cheater99it stalls during execution of /etc/bash_completion13:02
dmizermy cpu fan is not running. how can i force it to turn on. i have an old PIII laptop and there's nothing about the fan in /proc/acpi.13:02
cheater99yes quiescens :)13:02
koooridoes ubuntu get viruses13:03
kooorilike is there a virus scene on it13:03
rascal316316hey guys how do i map my spacebar key to a different key like the windows key on the keyboard,My space bar is not working well13:03
tensorpuddingkooori: For some there are software replacements, for others there are not.13:03
icarus-ckooori, none i heard of13:03
quiescenscheater99: stalls is a bit of a misnomer, its doing something, it just takes longer than you would like13:03
kooori=]13:03
popey!virus | kooori13:03
ubottukooori: Antivirus is something you don't need on !Linux, except where files are then passed to windows computers (perhaps using samba), See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Antivirus13:03
migahi there13:03
cheater99quiescens: what's the difference between that and "stalls"?13:03
sh4d3sl4y3r_kooori: windows binaries are not supported in linux environments. hence the chances of viruses are almost nil13:03
cheater99is "stalling" only when it's waiting for an unavailable resource?13:03
dmizerrascal316316 ... have you tried pulling the spacebar off and cleaning the connections?13:04
pankaj_sharmakooori: i think there is panda antivirus13:04
ManDayWhat does Ubuntu use to realize Dual Screen setup?13:04
quiescenscheater99: pretty much, don't mind me, i'm just picking at words13:04
sh4d3sl4y3r_pankaj_sharma: clamav is better. but there is no need13:04
cheater99quiescens: no, that's helpful, thanks13:04
popeyManDay: depends on the video card13:04
pankaj_sharmayeah13:04
cheater99quiescens: i didn't realize the difference13:04
icarus-cwhy ever put a anti virus on a linux system when the anti virus is to against windows virus only..13:04
popeyManDay: i use nvidia on my dual-screen desktop, and intel on my dual screen laptop13:04
cheater99quiescens: so i wonder if there's a way to make bash_completion execute asynchronously13:04
kworkicarus-c fileserver?13:05
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popeyicarus-c: in case you share files with windows pcs, you dont want to pass on files which have viruses in them13:05
pankaj_sharmaicarus-c: linux machine acts as router for viruses13:05
sh4d3sl4y3r_icarus-c: you can clean a pen drive infected with a virus which might affect other windows boxes13:05
icarus-ci missed saying "unless you have windows system involved" :P13:05
sh4d3sl4y3r_itself linux machines are immune13:05
ManDaypopey: What I mean is how does Ubuntu handle dual monitors BY DEFAULT? there is that "monitors" preferencesthing out of the box - what is it? xinerama? twinview? ???13:05
rascal316316nopes i was going to open it and clean it up ... but  i wanted to know  if  mapping one key to another one was possible13:05
zara212can someone please tell me a "file types manager" for Ubuntu ? (not ubuntu-tweak please)13:05
pankaj_sharmanautilus13:06
sh4d3sl4y3r_Manday: depends on you card. nvidia shits nvidia-settings for that13:06
popeyManDay: again, depends on the video card13:06
sh4d3sl4y3r_*ships13:06
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sh4d3sl4y3r_err13:06
popeyManDay: twinview is nvidia only13:06
ManDaypopey: I know - but ubuntu has something installed by default to get it working , no?13:06
popeyManDay: yes13:06
ManDaywhat does this preferences->monitors panel belong to?13:06
popeyManDay: that wont do nvidia cards with the binary nvidia driver13:07
kooorican i run ubuntu on Virtual Pc on windows?13:07
ManDaypopey: so what is it?13:07
popeyManDay: the nvidia driver installs nvidia-settings which replaces the monitors preferences panel13:07
icarus-ckooori, why not13:07
popeyManDay: that preferences panel is good for non-nvidia machines13:07
ManDaypopey: and what is it?13:07
ManDayxinerama?13:07
popeyManDay: what is what?13:07
ManDaythat DEFAULT preferences panel for monitors that is working out of the box?13:08
ManDayi just wonder because xinerama appears not be installed13:08
popeyManDay: it doesnt use xinerama here for nvida or intel13:08
ManDayor does X not need an additional extension at all to get dual monitors working?!13:08
ManDaypopey: indeed, but what DOES it use?!13:08
popeyManDay: it doesn't "use" anything external13:08
popeyManDay: the driver just supports dual screens out of the box13:09
ManDayso X can do that all without additional extensions?13:09
popeyyeah13:09
ManDayso what is xinerama good for then?13:09
sh4d3sl4y3r_Manday: i have a dual display setup .. nvidia-settings did the trick without any complications13:09
popey(on intel)13:09
sh4d3sl4y3r_it configures your xorg configuration file automatically13:09
ManDayohhhhhhhh13:09
moetunesManDay:  use xrandr now instead of xinerama13:09
popeyit can also screw your xorg.conf up nicely13:09
ManDayso xinerama is just a convenience?!13:09
moetunes!xrandr13:09
ubottuXRandR 1.2 is the new method of running dual screens in !X.  Information/HowTo here: http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/HowToRandR1213:09
zara212can someone please tell me a "file types manager" for Ubuntu ? (not ubuntu-tweak please)13:10
ManDayyeah i know xrandr13:10
ManDaythanks13:10
ManDayi was just wondering what use xinerama has13:10
sh4d3sl4y3r_popey: not in my 5 years of linux, bsd scenario it screwed my xorg.conf / Xfree86 / whatever13:10
moetunesManDay:  it s 201013:10
ikoniaManDay: xinerama is the legacy dual head/xorg server extension13:10
ManDaymoetunes: what?13:10
gunny17Can anyone tell me how to increase the font size in a tty for ubuntu10.4?13:10
popey!wfm | sh4d3sl4y3r_13:10
ubottush4d3sl4y3r_: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/13:10
moetunesManDay:  use xrandr now instead of xinerama13:10
migaCan anyone give me a hand? Recently I made an update of my ubuntu and now I don't have networkmonitor and wireless13:10
ikoniaManDay: not all cards have tools like twinview13:10
ManDayikonia: so these days one doesnt need anything but a correct xorg.conf13:11
popeyManDay: some dont even need an xorg.conf13:11
ikoniaManDay: pretty much, I still use xinerama fr some cards13:11
popeyManDay: my laptop has no xorg.conf at all13:11
ManDaypopey: well, these days xorg is magic13:11
moetunesit is xorg.conf.d now13:11
pankaj_sharmacan anyone tell me how to open terminal by using key alt+ctrl+f2 .. becuse its not opening in here.why13:11
ManDaypure magic...13:11
sh4d3sl4y3r_popey: not always geek suggestions are good for new people13:11
popey\o/ magic13:11
ikoniash4d3sl4y3r_: it's not a geek suggestion13:11
ikoniash4d3sl4y3r_: and manday is not new13:12
icarus-cpankaj_sharma, that should switch to tty terminal13:12
pankaj_sharmayeah13:12
popeysh4d3sl4y3r_: geek suggestions? I was merely pointing out that your 5 years of no xorg.conf corruption doesn't outweigh my xorg.conf corruption13:12
pankaj_sharmaits not opening13:12
ManDaythanks ikonia :P13:12
icarus-cpankaj_sharma, what about f3,f4...etc13:12
pankaj_sharmanothing is working13:12
zara212can someone please tell me a "file types manager" for Ubuntu ? (not ubuntu-tweak please)13:12
popeyzara212: whats the goal you're trying to achieve?13:12
icarus-cpankaj_sharma, holding ctrl & alt & f2  together is what you did ?13:12
pankaj_sharmayup13:13
_pHI_I have a quick question: if i keep my Ubuntu 10.10 RC up-to-date, can i avoid installing the final 10.10 when it comes out? will i have all the latest packages?13:13
_pHI_is it the same for beta and alpha?13:13
ikonia_pHI_: 10.10 discussion in #ubuntu+1 channel please13:13
pankaj_sharmaicarus-c: by the way i using ubuntu on vmware..13:13
_pHI_ikonia: ok thnx13:13
icarus-cpankaj_sharma, ..... then insult vmware documentation on how to pass Ctrl-Alt key to guest OS13:13
sh4d3sl4y3r_insult? :P13:14
ManDaythere is something else you guys might know tho: have you ever come a cross a dual head setup where the space of the virtual desktop which was NOT covered by viewscreens was "blocked" like its is on windows?13:14
icarus-cmeh13:14
pankaj_sharmahahah insult13:14
bitbartxhi all13:14
icarus-cconsult :P13:14
sh4d3sl4y3r_:D13:14
ManDay(so your mousepointer cant get lost there)13:14
ikoniaManDay: some ati(old) used to have that glitch13:14
gunny17Can anyone tell me how to increase the font size in a tty for ubuntu 10.4?13:15
ManDayikonia: "glitch" ?13:15
ManDaynow that is a real feature!13:15
zara212popey: i will backup my system after 2-3 days. now i need to associate all filetypes (at least most of them) with all applications with needed. for example 7z is not opening with peazip or archive manager on me. i have to open it by clicking on "openwith" . ok maybe i can fix it for 10-15 filetypes which i know. but there are many many filetypes on any operation system. i use ubuntu . how to can make associations?13:15
pankaj_sharmaicarus-c: but i can pass ctl+alt+del command...13:15
cool-aideis there any force command on how to delete such file?13:15
ManDayikonia: i dont see how this relates to the type of card tho - preventing the mousepointer from going somewhere seems like a purely x related thing13:15
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ikoniaManDay: some old ATI cards used to have that behaviour as a glitch13:16
pankaj_sharmaicarus-c: why it is not taking ctl+alt+f2 .. and there is nothing written in vmware doc.. i think so13:16
Guest66849hello13:16
icarus-cpankaj_sharma, try:  ctrl-alt-space  then release space (still holding ctrl-alt)  then press F213:17
zara212popey: i want if firefox can open 40 filetypes i want to let it to associate to all this files. also vlc, gimp gedit... that is my problem. how to do that ?13:17
cheater99quiescens: any idea what bash_completion is for, actually?13:17
ikoniacheater99: it's for auto completion of commands/files13:18
cheater99quiescens: i can auto-complete commands normally without it..13:18
cheater99it would seem13:18
ikoniacheater99: doubtful13:18
cheater99ikonia: try and see13:18
ikoniacheater99: try where13:18
cheater99ikonia: type "ba <tab>"13:18
ikoniawhere ?13:18
cheater99ikonia: try it on your system.13:18
icarus-czara212, right click on the file -> properties -> open with .  then select the default application to open the file13:18
whizzcheater99: not after a reboot, I guess13:18
cheater99disable bash_completion in your ~./bashrc, and run bash13:18
ikoniacheater99: when you open a terminal, you're alreay in a bash shell13:18
ikoniacheater99: that's bash completion13:19
cool-aideis there any force command on how to delete such file?13:19
rwwbash itself does completion of filenames. bash-completion does completion of other stuff.13:19
ikoniacheater99: that's proframming completion,13:19
icarus-ccheater99, if you got bash completion, you could enter "gnome-con" then hit [tab]  , it should finish up  gnome-control-center  for you automatically13:19
cheater99proframming?13:19
cheater99icarus-c: yes. i have disabled that and can do it anyways13:20
zara212icarus-c:  i tell you that i know that. but how to can i let to application to associate to all filetypes which can open properly ? i can not do this think to every frmat. there are many many formats which we are using. also we don't know what we can do for some programs.13:20
silasdavisdoes anyone know where I can find the .deb for sshd on feisty fawn?13:20
dave65yo all, 10.10 is great13:20
ikoniasilasdavis: that release is dead/EOL13:20
silasdavisyes I know13:20
icarus-ccheater99, having "disable bash_completion" in .bashrc shouldn't disable bash completion13:20
ikoniadave65: this is a support channel, ubuntu 10.10 discussion in #ubuntu+1 please13:20
dave65what release?13:21
GoWindows7WARNING: UBUNTU is a buggy piece of shit. It is not worth the plastic it's distributed on. You will have countless problems and when you ask for help, they'll say "Well, you didn't pay, so stop complaining". Windows 7 is far better, and just works. Download Microsoft Windows 7 today!13:21
GoWindows7WARNING: UBUNTU is a buggy piece of shit. It is not worth the plastic it's distributed on. You will have countless problems and when you ask for help, they'll say "Well, you didn't pay, so stop complaining". Windows 7 is far better, and just works. Download Microsoft Windows 7 today!13:21
FloodBot2GoWindows7: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.13:21
silasdavisbut upgrading it is not an option now, and I really need to get ssh back13:21
dave65ikonia:  just saying thanks, geez13:21
ikoniasilasdavis: the old repos are alive in the arvhice13:21
ikoniadave65: there isnt a need to13:21
cheater99icarus-c: i commented it out of .bashrc13:21
ikoniacheater99: bash has auto complete as part of the software13:22
quiescenscheater99: bash_completion is for13:22
dmizerplease help me turn on my CPU fan before my laptop literally melts through the floor? The BIOS is clearly not controlling the fan correctly and my CPU is burning up.13:22
dave65ty13:22
quiescens..13:22
cheater99quiescens: take your time :)13:22
quiescenscheater99: bash_completion is for.. more advanced completion, like completion of arguments13:22
pksadiqGoWindows7 , Yeah absolutely a KG student will think that integral(log(x) is something impossible and irrelevant13:22
icarus-ccheater99, i bet you don't even have a  "disable" command to run by .bashrc13:22
cheater99icarus-c: stop trolling13:22
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silasdavisikonia: could you point me in the right direction, I'd tried to get this up and running before with no luck13:22
ikoniasilasdavis: look on the old-releases.ubuntu.com site13:23
cheater99quiescens: do you have a common example?13:23
pankaj_sharmaicarus-c its working man13:23
quiescenscheater99: if you want you can look at /etc/bash_completion itself, as well as the files in /etc/bash_completion.d13:23
icarus-cpankaj_sharma, google ftw :D13:23
quiescenscheater: the most common example is probably typing apt-get install (start of a package name)<tab>13:23
icarus-ccheater99, .bashrc is just a bash script to execute at bash start.  man bash for detail13:23
pankaj_sharmaicarus-c: how to come out of tty?13:23
cheater99icarus-c: you have been added to my ignore list, troll13:24
pksadiqPress ALT13:24
icarus-cpankaj_sharma, your X session should be on F1 or F7 onwards13:24
pksadiq+Control + F&13:24
pksadiq+Control + F713:24
pksadiqSorry, :) My mistake13:24
cheater99quiescens: do you have a simple example where the difference can be seen?13:24
pankaj_sharmaty all13:24
silasdavisikonia: can I put something in sources.list to make it use that repo?13:25
ikoniasilasdavis: yes13:25
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quiescenscheater99: as in, typing apt-g<tab> will complete in either case, typing apt-get ins<tab> will complete the word "install" if you have the extra bash_completion stuff13:26
cheater99quiescens: mhm13:26
quiescenscheater99: or something like apt-get install linux-image-<tab><tab>13:27
pankaj_sharmahow can we change the foreground color(txt) in tty?13:27
icarus-cpankaj_sharma, use escape sequence13:27
cheater99quiescens: gotcha13:27
dwarderwhat do you use for icqing13:27
icarus-cpankaj_sharma, like   command :   printf "\033[32m"13:27
icarus-cpankaj_sharma, \033[32m is the ascii escape sequence for green13:28
silasdavisikonia: i don't have a sources.list to look at would 'deb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty/' work?13:28
dwarderwhat do you use for icq protocol?13:28
icarus-cpankaj_sharma, \033[0m to revert to normal13:28
pankaj_sharmaicarus-c,ty13:28
ikoniasilasdavis: why don't you have a sources.list13:28
icarus-cdwarder, pidgin got that i think13:29
silasdavisikonia: because someone tried to correct it and its buggered13:29
silasdavisso I don't want to crib off it13:29
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dwardericarus-c: what do you use :)13:29
icarus-cdwarder, i don't use ICQ13:29
ikoniasilasdavis: there are plenty of exmaple ones on the web13:29
AbhiJithow to convert p2i to iso on ubuntu?13:30
cheater99quiescens: any idea how to make bash_completion execute in a deferred way?13:31
cheater99quiescens: adding & to the end of that line in ~/.bashrc disables its functionality, even though the script executes.13:31
quiescensshrugs13:31
cheater99:)13:32
pksadiqexit13:34
zenyattaG'day13:34
pankaj_sharmakde is not installed in my system.how to go for it?13:35
icarus-cpankaj_sharma, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE13:35
davidrussellmobM13:35
AbhiJitpankaj_sharma, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop13:35
pankaj_sharmaty13:35
AbhiJithow to convert p2i to iso on ubuntu?13:35
pankaj_sharmaicarus-c, u r very helpful13:35
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moetunesAbhiJit:  what is a p2i file from?13:37
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AbhiJitmoetunes, cyberlink dvd13:38
moetunesAbhiJit:  it is prob a proprietry format...13:38
AbhiJitmoetunes, yes13:38
moetunesAbhiJit:  short of a google search I would think they don't have a linux port of that13:40
moetuness/google/web/13:41
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AbhiJitmoetunes, :(13:44
moetunesAbhiJit:  bummer - I have no windows here13:44
AbhiJitmoetunes, ohhh13:44
moetunesgnu/linux since 200313:45
AbhiJitoh great!13:45
moetunesdoesn't help with the  p2i file prob tho..13:47
cheater99ahh13:47
cheater99there's bash_dyncompletion which is much nicer13:47
cheater99what is the default .bashrc that is used for all new users? is it /root/.bashrc ?13:47
resorobcheater99: may be /etc/skel/.bashrc ?13:48
cool-aideis there any force command on how to delete such file?13:49
cheater99great, thanks resorob13:49
DarkSectorping13:51
DarkSectorsorry13:51
BluesKajHowdy folks13:51
pankaj_sharmahow to change login screen in ubuntu?13:52
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conb123How can I get the size of my system files in ubuntu? I am trying to get the properties of all the folders except cdrom, home, media and mnt but it just keeps giving me 128TB13:53
iromliGDM?13:53
Warp4conb123, use the du command on the folders you want to get sizes on13:53
denašđžćččćć13:53
pankaj_sharmahow to change login screen in ubuntu?13:53
The_DudeHey guys, I was just wondering if there's a speed advantage to using LBA on a HDD?13:54
decherdtlucid won't install by itself or after Windows 7 on my new ssd, Ubiquity? gives a read only file system error at /target or /target/app/ or /target/app armor (about 15%) different places at different times13:55
Warp4pankaj_sharma, http://www.arsgeek.com/2006/09/22/how-to-change-your-login-screen-in-ubuntugnome/13:56
ernie_ Hello all.  I'm trying to import mbox folders into evolution mail.  the problem is that they are being imported as a single email.  for instance.  folder xxx has 10 emails in it.  I import it and everything looks fine but when I go to the folder there is only one email in it and it is marked with a question mark.  any help here?13:56
icarus-cconb123, df -h   may get what you need13:58
icarus-cconb123, if the system relies on its own file system13:59
dr0idI can't send mails from localhost, why?13:59
icarus-cconb123, otherwise you will have to run "du -h" on all system folders such as /usr   /opt  /etc /lib... and more13:59
Warp4dr0id, what errors are you getting?14:00
dr0idtoday morning I executed this command -> "sudo tasksel install mail-server"14:00
moetunesdu -hs --apparent-size "dir"   is what works for me14:00
Warp4dr0id, better to use 'apt-get install postfix'14:00
dr0idI think tasksel isntall mail-server installs them14:01
Warp4dr0id, or just run tasksel without any parameters14:01
Warp4dr0id, anyway what's the problem you are having?14:01
Warp4dr0id, are you able to telnet to localhost on port 25 and get a response?14:01
conb123icarus-c: Thanks but I used "sudo du -csh /bin /boot /dev /etc /lib /lib32 /lib64 /opt /proc /root /sbin /selinux /srv /sys /tmp /usr /var" since I wanted to leave out /home. I am trying to work out how much space just the system files would take up on an ssd. I could have /home mounted on my hard drive.14:02
dr0idhttp://pastie.org/private/84enbxkdzdazz1wuo6q1da14:02
dr0idWarp4: may I PM ?14:02
Warp4dr0id, sure14:02
This_GuyI would like to perform backups either with an online service, or to another hard drive. Can anyone help? With all the research I've done, it seems quite frustrating.14:04
conb123icarus-c: The good news is, a 60gb ssd would hold my linux system files, windows os files and windows games and still have room left over14:04
ikoniaThis_Guy: copy the files you want to another hard disk, what's the problem ?14:04
iromlipankaj_sharma: google for GDM14:05
This_GuyWell, that's not the hard part.14:05
ikoniaThis_Guy: so explain what the problem is14:05
This_GuyI want scheduled backups, preferrably with encryption14:05
icarus-cThis_Guy, tools like rsync should achieve the copying part nicely14:05
ikoniaThis_Guy: ok, so cronjob or a tools such as rsync to keep the files in sync, then just encrypt the destination backup14:06
This_GuyYes, I know. However, I'm thinking offshore backups would be of benefit14:06
ikoniaThis_Guy: why ?14:06
This_GuyIn the event of a fire or tornado.14:06
icarus-cfire hazard ~.~14:06
This_GuyOr theft14:07
This_Guy:|14:07
ikoniaThis_Guy: ok, so purchase a remote server, or subscribe to a backup service14:07
This_GuyBut isn't file structure lost with online servies?14:07
ikoniaThis_Guy: depends what you buy,14:07
tawmassy4414:07
icarus-cThis_Guy, you could use tar after all14:07
This_GuyYeah, true.14:08
This_GuyHmmm, online services tend to be more pricey.14:08
ikoniathat's nothing #ubuntu can help you with14:08
This_GuyI know, haha.14:08
NewGuyso im testing ubuntu 10.04 and im running into the same thing as with other distros. once the fan comes on it wont shut off. Toshiba l355 laptop. Is there a fix?14:09
coz_This_Guy,  there is something named  sbackup for ubuntu but I dont think that is exactly what you want14:09
This_GuyWell, a remote server, you say.14:09
This_GuyI have nowhere to place it.14:09
coz_This_Guy,  $10 a month for dropbox  and 50gigs14:09
ikoniaThis_Guy: again, not something #ubuntu can help you with14:09
coz_This_Guy,  you could ask in ##linux to see if they alternatives none of us are familiar with14:10
This_GuyI was just hoping for suggestions. Sorry!14:10
This_GuyThank you for your help. Its much appreciated :)14:10
ikoniaThis_Guy: you've been given suggestions, subscribe to a backup service, or purchase an remote server14:10
cheater99is there a "text version" of the utility "bum"?14:10
michal_have somebody idea why apache don't ask for password? I made htaccess in directory and insert this line to /etc/apache2/apache2.conf AuthUserFile /etc/apache2/htaccess14:10
coz_This_Guy,  also look here   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem/SimpleBackupSuite?highlight=%28sbackup%2914:10
michal_AuthName login14:10
michal_AuthType Basic14:10
michal_require valid-user and i used this command: htpasswd -c -b /etc/apache2/htaccess login haslo14:10
This_Guycoz_ and ikonia: Thanks for your help14:11
giuseppedfhello everybody! Can you help me on my ubuntu distro and mouse?14:12
misal_yamI use Ubuntu lucid. I install ubuntu-tweak and i see that many filetypes is not associated. For example 7z (which is the most using formats) is not associated with any application. I can open the file everytime with file-roller and i have to click on "remember this selection for this filetype..." ... I know that think. But there are some filetypes which we don't know how to open them. Also i am not able to say all filetypes one by one to select which applic14:12
misal_yamI search for it, but i find "filetypes manager" and "ubuntu tweak" to fix this problem but there are many many filetypes which we can not edit them one by one. So that's why i think them we have to let any application on system to associate any filetype which can open it properly. Can someone really help me to do that ?14:12
draeathI'm trying to sign UbuntuCodeofConduct-1.1.txt for Launchpad. It insists "(7, 8, u'Bad signature')"14:14
draeathany ideas? I'm following the instructions verbatim.14:14
giuseppedfdoes anybody know why sometime, after big data file copying my mouse movement is not smooth and it is impulsed? Is there any istruction (by shell is good too) to reset my mouse?14:14
giuseppedfFloodBot1, do you know why sometime, after big data file copying my mouse movement is not smooth and it is impulsed? Is there any istruction (by shell is good too) to reset my mouse?14:15
killer999how to install kubuntu on external hard disk partition so that I can boot from it? I tried once but had to restore Grub14:15
zerdnemexit14:16
zerdnem#exit14:16
giuseppedfzerdnem, sorry, did you refer to me?14:16
Braber01I can't rember wich equals operator to use when working with numbers in the bash shell can sombody remind me?14:17
cool-aidei got ubuntu 10.04 and i installed ubuntu-tweak....i want my desktop settings back to its original state from the time i installed my distro....is it possible? using ubuntu tweak? and i havent do back ups?14:18
coz_cool-aide,  what all did you change on the system?14:18
bazhangcool-aide, ubuntu-tweak from where? ubuntu repos?14:18
coz_cool-aide,   if you mean reset gnome   you can do that without ubuntu tweak14:19
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coz_cool-aide,  if you mean compiz  then that can be done from ccsm14:20
ernie_ Hello all.  I'm trying to import mbox folders into evolution mail.  the problem is that they are being imported as a single email.  for instance.  folder xxx has 10 emails in it.  I import it and everything looks fine but when I go to the folder there is only one email in it and it is marked with a question mark.  any help here?14:20
coz_cool-aide,  if you want gnome reset  use this command     sudo rm -rf .gnome .gnome2 .gconf .gconfd .metacity      hen restart X14:20
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cool-aidecoz_: doing that...is it safe for my files? i mean i got conky runnin too...and i got doc files... is it safe?14:21
coz_cool-aide,  should be safe for conky...that command is to reset "gnome"  not application options14:22
iircphoneafternoon14:24
killer999how do i install ubuntu on external hard disk?14:24
pankaj_sharmawarp4: that was an outdated link14:24
cool-aidei typed it nothing happnd14:24
coz_cool-aide,  did you restart x14:24
coz_cool-aide,  you have to restart x  or reboot in order to see the changes14:25
ernie_can anyone help me trying to get my saved thundirbird mail folders into evolution.  I have followed the directions on importing, but it doesn't work.  each folderonly ends up with one email even though there are multiple emails in each folder14:25
AbhiJitpankaj_sharma, hey may i pm you?14:25
misal_yamI use Ubuntu lucid. I install ubuntu-tweak and i see that many filetypes is not associated. For example 7z (which is the most using formats) is not associated with any application. I can open the file everytime with file-roller and i have to click on "remember this selection for this filetype..." ... I know that think. But there are some filetypes which we don't know how to open them. Also i am not able to say all filetypes one by one to select which applic14:26
misal_yamI search for it, but i find "filetypes manager" and "ubuntu tweak" to fix this problem but there are many many filetypes which we can not edit them one by one. So that's why i think them we have to let any application on system to associate any filetype which can open it properly. Can someone really help me to do that ?14:26
cool-aidecoz_: nothings change.... :(14:26
coz_cool-aide,   mm  thats not right...let me give you the command again and simply hightlight it here  then   middle click inside the terminal window to paste it14:27
coz_cool-aide,     sudo rm -rf .gnome .gnome2 .gconf .gconfd .metacity14:27
coz_cool-aide,   then restart x  by  hitting   ctrl+alt+F2   ...log in  then   sudo restart gdm14:28
cool-aidecoz_: i got it! many thanx to you bro! i love u!14:29
coz_cool-aide,   no problem14:29
miguelwillis "sudo service gdm restart"14:30
dwarderwhat is better vmware or virtualbox?14:34
pankaj_sharmavmware rocks fr me14:35
miguelwillin mi case, virtualbox :D14:35
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miguelwillin Mac, Parallels :P14:36
egoleohow do i install getlibs on lucid?14:37
coz_egoleo,  try here   http://explore-ubuntu.blogspot.com/2010/04/getlibs.html14:38
egoleothnx14:39
This_GuyI'm not sure which channel I should be in, but has anyone tried using FTPS with a web hosting company. I want to use Rsync for backup.14:39
coz_This_Guy,   if no one knows here right away ,.,, you could also try the ##linux channel14:39
dwarderdoes using ntfs under linux has performance issue?14:41
jshanab_win7I come from the Gentoo club but am using xubuntu on a server. In gentoo I can add an entry to /etc/env.d run env-update and source the profile and continue. What is the ubuntu equivilant. I put an entry in /etc/environment and started a new terminal and my entry was not added14:41
dwarderor other issues?14:41
sinediodwarder: well, yeah, but nothing to worry too much about, I get around 20MB/s on my rig, enough to watch movies :)14:41
myplaTHi! i need from help, meybe it simple but i don't know as made, i was make an firewall script and i moved to /etc/init.d/firewall, how can i make for execute this command? i tryed startup applications but don't work ;/14:41
HinHinhi there, just wondering if anyone knows the default ServerRoot path in the apache.conf14:41
HinHini'm using Ubuntu server edition 10.0414:42
jshanab_win7dwarder. Iwould say yes. It has to map the file allocation tables into an imaginary inode structure and maintain it14:42
myplaTHi! i need from help, maybe it simple but i don't know as made, i was make an firewall script and i moved to /etc/init.d/firewall, how can i make for execute this command? i try startup applications but don't work ;/14:42
This_Guycoz_, do you mean #linux under IRCNET? I'm new to this.14:42
coz_This_Guy,  no  ...on this server...where you type here to ask a question just type      /join ##linux14:43
myplaTHi! i need from help, maybe it simple but i don't know as made, i was make an firewall script and i moved to /etc/init.d/firewall, how can i make for execute this command when i login in my ubuntu? i try startup applications but don't work ;/14:43
HinHinmyplaT, spamming your comment won't help14:43
NewGuydoes anyone know how to make the fan spin down when the laptop is cool?14:43
myplaTHinHin: sorry14:43
HinHinNewGuy, it's not doing it automatically?14:43
NewGuyno14:43
NewGuy27c and still running full speed14:44
HinHinmyplaT, usually i would suggest using runtimes14:44
egoleohello14:44
HinHinbut ubuntu changed to that upstart thing14:44
HinHini forget what's it called14:44
dwardersinedio: i plan to put my vbox disk on it14:44
egoleohow do i install libpq.so.4 on lucid14:44
oCean!bum | HinHin14:45
ubottuHinHin: Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto14:45
egoleoanyone to help me install libpq.so.4 on lucid plse14:45
HinHinah yes bum14:45
NewGuyHinHin, any idea how to get it working properly?14:45
jshanab_win7So anyone know the answer to my environment variable question?14:46
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myplaTHinHin: i think so exist some method to use this in /etc/init.d because my friend use this.. but i don't getting speak with him.14:46
HinHinthanks oCean for reminding me ;)14:46
HinHinand myplaT download bum14:46
HinHinsudo apt-get install bum14:46
miguelwillThis_Guy prueba esto:  update-rd.d firewall defaults14:46
dwardersinedio: what speed do you have from ext4 for comparison14:46
sinediodwarder: umm, you'd be better off putting the vbox disks on your current partition. This is how I do it. I have XP in one vbox and build ubcd4win very often and it flies :)14:46
myplaTHinHin: bum? what's this?14:47
jshanab_win7egoleo it will get installed with the 8.0 version of the client, but it is stand alone and is interface compatible with the libpq.so.5 so I just create a symlink to the .5 for apps that ned the .414:47
HinHinNewGuy, not sure sorry i've seen some things to config it14:47
sinediodwarder: I never checked :) stuff loads very fast for me so I did not bother14:47
HinHinbut i don't remember14:47
egoleoso how do i create this symlink14:47
egoleoand to which file14:47
HinHin!bum | myplaT14:48
ubottumyplaT: Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto14:48
egoleoplse how do i create this symlink and which file14:48
gustavzf /server irc.efnet.net14:48
miguelwill!update-rd.d14:48
jshanab_win7egoleo. Please explain a bit more your situation and experiance so I can direct you better14:48
AbhiJit!irc | pankaj_sharma14:49
ubottupankaj_sharma: A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines14:49
egoleoi am trying to install outcafe and is requiring libpq.so.414:49
myplaT!postfix | myplaT14:49
ubottumyplaT, please see my private message14:49
moetunes!find libpq.so.4 | egoleo14:49
ubottuegoleo: Package/file libpq.so.4 does not exist in lucid14:49
egoleoyes it does not exist on lucid14:50
coz_cool-aide,   didnt see the pm ...what is the complete error on that file when you try to delete it14:50
gustavzf /server irc.efnet.net14:50
moetunesgustavzf:  no space before the /14:50
SolvedI have just downloaded the game "Tremulous" (Not From Package Manager For Specific Reasons), and I do not know what to do with the downloaded package to get Tremulous up and running. My operating system is 10.04 LTS (32 bit)14:50
pankaj_sharmaabhijit,ty14:50
egoleohey thnx i did create a symlink to the libpq.so.5 to the 414:51
egoleoso is working now14:51
jshanab_win7egoleo. keep in mind I am a gentooer but I would locate libpq-so.5 and then in that directory "ln -s ./libpq-so.5 libpg.so.4"14:51
miguelwillroot@miguel-desktop:/etc/init.d# chmod +x TEST.sh14:51
miguelwillroot@miguel-desktop:/etc/init.d# update-rc.d TEST.sh defaults14:51
miguelwillupdate-rc.d: warning: /etc/init.d/TEST.sh missing LSB information14:51
miguelwillupdate-rc.d: see <http://wiki.debian.org/LSBInitScripts>14:51
miguelwill Adding system startup for /etc/init.d/TEST.sh ...14:51
FloodBot3miguelwill: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.14:51
miguelwill   /etc/rc0.d/K20TEST.sh -> ../init.d/TEST.sh14:51
egoleooh great14:52
egoleoi am also a gentoo user14:52
jshanab_win7egoleo. One of the few times the rule about order of entries in a library was followed allowing them to be binary compatible. Kinda cool.14:52
miguelwillXD14:52
egoleojust setting a ubuntu box as cafe timer server14:52
rekhi,bluetooth doesn't work14:52
moetunesegoleo:  there are plenty of gentoo wikis on this14:52
jshanab_win7Well, I think I am gonna re-format the server to gentoo. Easier to work with for a server14:53
sinedioegoleo: what software do you use for that purpose ?14:53
SolvedI have just downloaded the game "Tremulous" (Not From Package Manager For Specific Reasons), and I do not know what to do with the downloaded package to get Tremulous up and running. My operating system is 10.04 LTS (32 bit)14:53
coz_Solved,   give me link from where you downloaded it14:54
egoleoi was trying out outkafe14:54
egoleoi dont know if anyone is got a better option for a cafe timer that works on linux with windows clients14:54
coz_egoleo,  mm  is this a POS?14:54
egoleocafe timer14:55
egoleofor internet cafes14:55
Solvedcoz_: http://sourceforge.net/projects/tremulous/files/tremulous/1.1/tremulous-1.1.0-installer.x86.run/download14:55
coz_Solved,  ok downloading hold on14:56
Solvedcoz_: thank you so much14:56
coz_egoleo,   I have use  openbravo  which is a POS  using java14:56
alketDoes anyone knows how can I add my city in gnome-weather applet ? I am from Pristina, Kosovo ?14:56
cool-aidecoz_: it says there was an error deleting unsaved document2. "error removing file: permission denied."14:56
jshanab_win7One last try. How the heck to I set an enviroment variable AND refresh them14:56
sinedioegoleo: looks neat14:56
rusivicoz_ I have heard of Open Bravo, how does it stack to MSFT CRM Great Plains, and other major players?14:56
Izinucsalket: typically you have to have a nationally recognized weather station there.14:57
coz_cool-aide,  ok open a terminal   cd to the Desktop if that is where the file is   then  sudo chown -R  yourname  nameoffile14:57
egoleowhat looks neat14:57
coz_cool-aide,  then you should be able to delete it14:57
oCeanjshanab_win7: refresh?14:57
egoleoit seems outkafe is for only linux14:57
alketIzinucs, do you know where weather applet gets information from ? from weather.com ?14:57
egoleoi want one for linux and client on windows14:57
Izinucsalket: not sure but I think so.14:57
nikkitahmm can anyone help :s14:58
luben1I can't configure an Ati Mobility Radeon HD 5145, anyone can give me a clue (no luck googling)?14:58
nikkitai got my 4 ubuntu disks today and i dont know which to install14:58
alketIzinucs, Pristina, Kosovo is in weather.com14:58
coz_rusivi,  well I have a few clients that use openbravo successfully...however it will NOT run with icedtea  it must have sun java14:58
jshanab_win7oCean. yeah, Set CXF_HOME and then get it into the environment, currently and persistant and new sessions14:58
rusivinikkita: I would go for Lucid if you have that.14:58
rusivinikkita Maverick if your feeling brave.14:58
coz_egoleo,  I am looking for other cafe timers14:59
rusivicoz_ i have run into that with online stock/option brokerage accounts14:59
egoleooh ok14:59
nikkitarusivi i got 10.04 lts server edition.... 10.04 lts kubuntu and a purple case one with just ubuntu on it twice...14:59
rusivicoz_ i had to raise hell just to have compatibility with Oracle Java running through Ubuntu14:59
egoleothen when u get please let me know too14:59
oCeanjshanab_win7: only the current shell and childs from the shell you set/changed the variable in will inherit the new value14:59
coz_rusivi,  understood... I have the openbravo free package here somewhere...if not to large I can add to dropbox  hold on14:59
luben1anyone has an Ati mobility radeon hd?15:00
rusivinikkita: If your looking for server recommendations I will have to bow out gracefully as I'm still MSFT Server centric :(15:00
nikkitathe 4th one is 10.04 desktop edition15:00
Izinucsalket: then it must get them from some place else.. not sure where..15:00
nikkitabut i dont underdtand why i got it 2 times15:00
oCeanjshanab_win7: you can set variables in .bashrc in your homedirectory, to make them persistent. Use "export VAR=value" to export to child shells15:00
AbhiJit!ibus | pankaj_sharma15:01
ubottupankaj_sharma: IBus is used to allow multilingual input such as Chinese, Japanese, Korean (CJK), Devanagari and Dravidian characters in !GUI applications - see also: !SCIM. For more info on Ibus see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ibus15:01
rusivinikkita: I have liked each release since 9.04 all the way up to Maverick, each newer release is better then the previous one.15:01
Solvedcoz_: has it finished downloading yet?15:01
nikkitarusivi: i want it to play games and to talk to all my friends on socail networks15:01
coz_Solved,  not yet  :)15:01
coz_rusivi,    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/132551/openbravopos_2.20-1_i386.deb15:01
rusivinikkita: I have a lot of formal training and time spent professionally in MSFT server enviornment.15:01
nikkitaand i need it for game development15:01
GothSparkhi , I got a strange problem and I don't know the cause but it seams that I can't use any 3d aps now ,  after a reboot caused by a power faillure  I tryed to reboot , my Ubuntu 10.04 has rebooted but ... crashed it was logged in , those crashing are from yesterday when I tryed to compile witjout success the Gtk murine color  chooser. I whant to know the cause of it  and know a way to fix it . by the way I am booted onto the resccue session of gnome15:01
nikkitaso im confused15:01
Solvedthanks15:01
rusivinikkita: You can do both via Ubuntu (games/social networking/social media)15:01
coz_rusivi,  download now so I can delete it   ...let me know when it is finished downloading15:01
cool-aidecoz_: nothing happnd....i just typed wat u've instructed...and looking back on my desktop it's still there15:01
rusivicoz_ ty15:02
rusivicoz_ all set15:02
egoleoanyone knows any internet cafe timers15:02
nikkitarusivi: but will my 3 modem work?15:02
nikkitawith ubuntu15:02
nikkitathats what im scared of15:02
coz_egoleo,  still looking but give me a few minutes... I have to see about this termulous game15:02
rusivinikkita: Best way to find out is drop in the Live CD, do not do a native install yet, and test it!15:02
nikkitaand what if i want to switch back to windows :( my laptop never came with disks15:02
egoleooh ok15:02
IzinucsI installed mydms from the repos (document management). It's loaded and running but I'm looking for files in /var/www... nothing there but the default index.htm file.. where do I find the install location?15:02
egoleothnx15:02
coz_Solved,  ok you downloaded the  .run package  ...yes?15:03
oCeanSolved: usually a .run can be installed by making it executable (chmod +x filename.run) and run it: ./filename.run15:03
rusivinikkita: If you just Live CD for testing, you do not touch your Windows partitions in any way.15:03
Solvedcoz_: i believe so15:03
nikkitabut ive got 4 disks omg im confused :(15:03
coz_Solved,   as oCean  mentione  you can right click that package  go to Properties  and the Permissions tab  and tick the Execute box15:03
Solvedok15:03
nikkitaalso can i have windows and ubuntu installed15:04
nikkitaso i can switch between both15:04
Solvedcoz_: i will try this15:04
coz_Solved,   then open a terminal   cd  to where that package is  and type   ./tremu  and hit the tab key to complete the name   then just hit enter15:04
GothSparknikita : you can dual boot :)15:04
nikkitaalso i dont want to lose my 2tb of pictures and movies xD15:05
rusivinikkita: You could, via Wubi, but imho alone, dual-booting is like the dinosaurs, it's ancient and in the past. Virtualize and make your life easier.15:05
andycchey guys15:05
oCeanSolved: still, remember that software not installed from the official repositories are unsupported third-party packages, and should be used at your own risk15:05
GothSparkrusivi , wubi is more unstable ...15:05
nikkitaso rusivi kubuntu or ubuntu?15:05
Solvedcoz_: i dont get exactly what you mean. I am fairly new to ubuntu. it is located in home sliver Downloads15:05
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andyccsmall problem here: I'm using xfce and I have a free space meter set to my /home partition, and I can see that the space in /home is dropping really fast15:06
coz_egoleo,   have you looked at this ?    http://www.mycafecup.com/15:06
rusivinikkita: Kubuntu/Ubuntu is a personal choice, I use GNOME = Ubuntu but install many KDE programs b/c I like them better (Kolour = general paint, Korganizer = calendar, Amarok = iTunes equivalent)15:06
andyccit went from about 182GB to 180 in a few minutes15:06
egoleono checking it up15:06
nikkitabut i dont understand whats the diffrence15:06
rusiviGothSpark: I'm not really commenting on how stable it is, more that I have found personal ease of use and success virtualizing vs. dual-booting.15:07
jshanab_win7oCean. I want it to be a system wide environment variable. Do I jsut put it in /etc/bash.bashrc? what is the point of/etc/environment if it is never used?15:07
Solvedcoz_: and it is called tremulous-1.1.0-installer.x86(2).run. I downloaded it twice, and this one has an image  of a sheet of paper with a bunch of 1 and 0 with a big x white x in the top right hand corner15:07
coz_egoleo,   you may have to go to sourceforge  and search for POS  or internet cafe  or cafe timer15:07
egoleooh ok15:07
egoleobut this one looks cool too15:07
egoleothanks alot15:07
coz_Solved,   can you screenshot that please and upload to picpaste.com15:07
Solvedcoz_: *big white x15:07
rusiviGothSpark: This is the question that gets to the heart of the issue, is VMWare's success due to selling dual-booting products or virtualization products?15:08
egoleocoz_ it seems is for sale?15:08
GothSparkrusivi , a vm has not the same capability as a dualbootinh15:09
coz_egoleo,  oooo sorry15:09
egoleoi want freee :D15:09
coz_egoleo,   go to sourceforge  and search there.... there are many but not all free15:09
oCeanjshanab_win7: indeed, /etc/bash.bashrc is the way to go. The /etc/environment file seems to hold path definitions, not sure why it is not used for environment variables15:09
coz_egoleo,  openbravo is free15:09
rusiviGothSpark That is true and the performance gap between a native install and virtualized is quickly closing.15:09
rusiviGothSpark many of the issues I had Virtualizing with VirtualBox just 1 year ago are no longer issues (gaming performance, live video streaming, video conferencing)15:09
nikkitabrb15:10
coz_egoleo,  try this    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/132551/openbravopos_2.20-1_i386.deb15:10
rusiviGothSpark: It is also hardware/eq dependent.15:10
oCeanjshanab_win7: when changing the bashrc file, re-source the file to read-in the settings into your current shell (like 'source ~/.bashrc' to re-read your own bashrc file)15:10
coz_egoleo,  you must have sun java installed for that to work15:10
Braber01um is it possible to change the color and size of the font of my login shell?15:10
jayahello15:11
GothSparkwell i'm not here to debate about virtualision  , I got a problam and needs tosolve it :) so   shall we stay on topic  ?15:11
jshanab_win7oCean. I see the JAVA_HOME in there and it matches, I just cannot find when it reads it. I think the gentoo system for environment veribles is the way to go.  Right on source /etc/bas...15:11
rusiviGothSpark: Please, continue.15:11
egoleobut is not a timer15:11
egoleoand it seems too huge15:11
egoleojava apps15:11
egoleono15:11
FloodBot3egoleo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.15:11
egoleofor me15:11
bradyxcI'm having trouble mounting a hhd, I'm running lucid...15:12
GothSpark? I got a gnome problem , and I don't know where it is since I had power faillure while updating ....15:12
coz_GothSpark,   an try  sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a15:13
rusivibradyxc: Has this HDD been mounted in Lucid before?15:13
gazahi  everybody can any one help me reinstalling grub2 after windows 7 installation15:13
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bradyxcrusivi yes when I try to mount it says that it is not found in fstab or mtab15:14
BluesKaj!grub |  gaza15:14
ubottugaza: grub is the default boot manager for Ubuntu releases before Karmic (9.10). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto - See !grub2 for Karmic onwards.15:14
prnarchlinux15:15
IzinucsWhen storing a document in a DMS driven by php & mysql .. does it actually have a "save" location for the document or does it encode on the fly to something like xml.. ?15:15
hhlp!grub2 | gaza15:15
ubottugaza: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since Ubuntu 9.10.  For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub215:15
coz_gaza,   go to the #grub channel and in the topic is a link for reinstalling...just read it carefully before attempting it :)15:15
andycchey guys, I have a problem with Xubuntu: I have a free space meter applet set to the /home partition and the free space dropped from 182gb to 179gb in about 10 minutes... I only have pidgin running, so what's wrong?15:15
coz_cool-aide,   you say that didnt work?15:15
Edward_Elricgaza, http://ubuntuguide.net/how-to-restore-grub-2-after-reinstalling-windows-xpvistawin715:15
coz_gaza,   this is the link from #grub    http://grub.enbug.org/Grub2LiveCdInstallGuide15:16
rusivibradyxc: Who is the HDD mfg, model, & serial #?15:17
jshanab_win7 uhh, everyone the "proper" way to set the persistant env variables and refresh in the curernt env looks like adding entries in the /etc/profile.d direcotry and then just sourcing /etc/profile15:17
gazaEdward_Elric , coz_ , i have  tried the ways but my ubuntu partition comes as unallocated15:17
gazaany ideas?//15:18
bradyxcrusivi I don't know, I have the hhd for a few years15:18
coz_gaza,   not off hand ..but  go to #grub channel  I amsure they can help15:18
rusivibradyxc: look on the bottom on the sticker as it will be helpful15:18
coz_gaza,  I am not completely fluent with grub215:18
gazacoz_, thanx15:18
gaza# grub15:19
gazahow do i join  that group?15:19
rusivibradyxc Many HDD come pre-formatted with NTFS so you may need an NTFS interfacing package if it did not already come with Lucid.15:19
coz_gaza,  where you type a message here  type    /join #grub15:19
gazathanx15:19
rusivibradyxc: Both one I got a week ago and one I got a few years ago were both NTFS out of the box15:20
xukunevery time I restart my system I have to do dpkg-reconfigure lirc after I choose the wright remote everything works. Is there a way to make this permanent?15:20
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bradyxcrusivi well this one is NTFS I have windows xp installed on it15:20
rokr1hey guys i have problem in using lirc with NSC600115:21
rokr1fast infrared15:21
GothSparkamm, should reinstall ... it fail to start dpkg ....15:22
coz_be back in a bit15:22
rusivibradyxc: ahhhhhh so your in the Live CD environment, poking around at your Windows XP partition(s)?15:23
rokr1see this15:23
rokr1http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/e9eWp2md15:23
coz_Solved,  you still here?15:23
bradyxcrusivi no I discovered linux after having filled most of my hhd so it was just easier to install linux on another hhd that I had15:23
BluesKajcoz_ if gaza's ubuntu partition is unallocated doesn't he need to activate it , or is that normal condition after installing windows?15:24
Solvedcoz_: yes I am, im having trouble uploading the picture though15:24
rusivibradyxc: one of many NTFS related packages I have installed (in Maverick) is ntfs-3g15:24
coz_Blue1,  well it should be activated15:24
gazacoz . noone seems to  be there15:24
coz_Solved,  i believe after you cd  Desktop...if that is where the game .run is...type   sudo ./trem    hit tab15:25
Solvedcoz_: wait i did it :     http://i54.tinypic.com/2z3w87m.jpg15:25
bradyxcrusivi I have that as well...15:25
coz_Solved,   ok  open a terminal  cd Downloads15:25
gazaBlueskaj, r u trying to say that i need to mount  that partition?15:26
coz_Solved,   make sure that package is executable by right clicking it  go to Permissions and tick the execute box15:26
coz_Solved,   then in the terminal type  sudo ./tremu    hit tab to complete name and hit enter15:26
coz_Solved,  that should do it... I am trying it here15:26
lars_oilà15:26
ubuntuhi, I desperately need help.. I am currently running a live cd and where my linux ext4 partitions used to be, gparted now only detects unallocated hard drive space15:27
rusivibradyxc: This is going to sound silly but did a restart change anything?15:27
BluesKajgaza, dunno for sure , it just might be unallocated because windows did so during the install15:27
ubuntuis there a recovery tool which would find my partitions for me again?15:27
bradyxcrusivi not that I know of15:27
gazaubuntu, same problem here may be we can work together15:27
erUSULubuntu: testdisk or gpart15:27
rusivibradyxc: ok so you restarted, and still same problem?15:27
erUSULhttp://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Step_By_Step15:28
erUSUL!info testdisk15:28
ubottutestdisk (source: testdisk): Partition scanner and disk recovery tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.11-1 (lucid), package size 1510 kB, installed size 4672 kB15:28
bradyxcrusivi well I've been running linux for a few months...15:28
ubuntuerUSUL: gpart or gparted? or is it the same15:28
gazabluesKaj , i tried mounting  it and cant see any changes in places15:28
erUSULubuntu: not the same. gpart is a cli tool15:28
rokr1is someone here who uses lirc15:28
ubuntuerUSUL: k15:28
rusivibradyxc: duly noted but I need answer to my question please :)15:28
erUSULubuntu: testdisk is easier to use afaics15:28
ubuntuthanks:)15:28
bradyxcrusivi no nothing has changed15:29
ubuntuerUSUL: yeah, I have used testdisk before, mainly to overwrite mbrs though15:29
YiamiYohi15:29
YiamiYoi hava some problems with my ethernet card15:29
YiamiYohave*15:29
JKL__https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM/Networking#bridgednetworking here is line "iface eth0 inet manual". why its set to manual?15:29
YiamiYoit was working fine yesterday15:29
coz_Solved,   did you get that going?15:29
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cool-aidecan anyone help me? i just accidentally deleted my panel....now i add new one same as before but when i open firefox and minimized it i can't see the firefox icon on the panel below as what i have previously before i accidentally deleted my panel just now....anyone? pls? thanx15:30
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manfredrastahi15:30
manfredrastahow do I go to #lubuntu?15:30
coz_manfredrasta,  where you type a message here   type   /join #lubuntu15:30
manfredrastacoz_, thanx15:31
coz_no problem15:31
YiamiYois there anything i can do to check if my ethernet card is ok?15:31
coz_Solved,  still here?15:31
rokr1is someone here who uses lirc??15:32
xukunits seems that there are two lirc modules are loaden. I need to disable the I don't use. How can I disable lirc_imon module?15:33
rusivibradyxc: ty. I would take a look at the history of how Lucid has been updating and see if you notice any of your NTFS or related packages been updated recently. As well, same with software you installed. Looking for correlation to date/time closest to when you first noticed this issue, then look for causation. I do not keep up on every update so I can only suggest the obvious (ntfs-related, fstab auto-accessing-type packages).15:33
bradyxcrusivi ok ty15:33
coz_Solved,   i will be back in a bit  ...let me know if you got that installed15:34
Spofer[ubuntu newbie] I'm getting "dpkg: error processing man-db (--configure):" on every installation i do15:34
daniela78*meow* is someone successfully runnin AC97_ALC650F sound (nforce2) on 10.04? I can't hear anything... :/15:34
cool-aidecan anyone help me? i just accidentally deleted my panel....now i add new one same as before but when i open firefox and minimized it i can't see the firefox icon on the panel below as what i have previously before i accidentally deleted my panel just now....anyone? pls? thanx15:35
xukunanyone please15:35
yunsanghowhat kind of packet capture program are there in ubuntu?15:35
CT1Hi. How can I find out which hard disk is using which irq?15:35
rokr1xukun blacklist the the driver in /etc/modprobe.d15:35
rokr1or edit /etc/lirc/hardware.conf file15:35
rokr1i am having problem with this national semiconductor NSC6001 chip15:35
Friarhow can I join a different server on  xchat?15:35
hyliani have a strange error, and im not even certain how to categorize it. When i run my mouse cursor to the right or bottom of the screen, the whole screen "pans" into blackness. i usually google first, but i dont really know what to google here..??15:36
YiamiYodoes anyone know how i can test my eth card for problems?15:36
rusivicool-aide: yunsangho Wireshark & Cacti are two familiar ones.15:36
xukunrokr1, I will do that thanks15:36
SpoferHow can i fix this?15:36
yunsanghorusivi, Thanks15:36
rokr1yungsangho :wireshark, ettercap, tcpdump15:36
cristinaciao|15:36
daniela78alsa-project db output: http://bit.ly/cdjAwi15:36
ZykoticK9!panels | cool-aide15:37
ubottucool-aide: To reset the gnome panel to defaults, type this in a !terminal: « gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel »15:37
yunsanghorokr1, Thanks15:37
cristinalist|15:37
rokr1go with tcpdump if your are pro or go with wireshark15:37
rokr1for nice GUI15:37
kaddiierUSUL: and when testdisk doesn't detect anything that means I am superscrewed, right? I need to find ext4 partitions.. the page talks about ext2. Does testdisk do ext4?15:37
twanvdpCan anyone tell me which user whould own the /var/mail directory ?15:37
cristinalist!15:37
rusivirokr1: I know pro's who use workshark :D15:38
ZykoticK9cristina, !list does NOT work here15:38
Izinucsanyone on that's somewhat versed in php & mysql usage.. not programming .. but how to determine where data is stored? I've installed MyDMS and uploaded one doc to it.. now I'm trying to figure out where it goes.15:38
twanvdpI keep getting error : Oct  2 16:36:49 apollo imapd: t.vanderpoel: Account's mailbox directory is not owned by the correct uid or gid15:38
erUSULkaddii: it should but i am not sure15:38
rokr1nice one rusivi15:38
rokr1i like ya15:38
rusivirokr1: workshark = wireshark15:38
rokr1may be that was a tpyo15:38
kaddiii hate my life right now >.< Just found out my backups are no good either.15:39
rokr1XD15:39
rusivirokr1 hehe15:39
rokr1read it correctly rusivi15:39
rokr1W I R E S H A R K15:40
hylianmy desktop pand to the right and also down into blackness...15:40
rokr1or watch JAWS15:40
YiamiYoguys...is there anything i can do to test my eth card?15:40
phil_in_londonIzinucs, it depends on the application, some will store a link to the file's location on your system, some of them will use a binary blob field to store the document directly in the database itself.15:40
twanvdpCan anyone help me out with this -seems- simple problem? I cant get courier/mail to work because of error: Account's mailbox directory is not owned by the correct uid or gid . I created my maildir with maildirmake and let it be owned by apache user, my user account mail account but it keeps resulting in this error, Any suggestions would be very welcome15:40
FriarI'm having problems with my xchat and trying to join a different server...any help?\15:41
phil_in_londonIzinucs, you might want to download MySQL Query browser so you can have a peek through the mysql data to see whats going on.15:41
AbhiJitFriar, what happen/15:41
YiamiYoFriar, did you try ctrl+t15:41
Izinucsphil_in_london: thanks. is MySQL Query in the repos?15:41
gazahi people i m on my live session now how will i determine where is my boot partition15:41
NikyoI'm try to start synaptic from gnome terminal but it does not start. Do I need to put in something else than synaptic in the terminal ? I know where it is via the menu.. Please.15:41
AbhiJitgaza, you can cross check from gparted15:41
rokr1Yiamiyo if you are using the same computer to chat modem connected to the ethernet card then its working XD15:41
rusiviYiamiYo Testing in the Live CD environment is the best way to go, ping 127.0.0.1 (testing hardware ok).15:42
hyliani figured it out, so no worries :)15:42
YiamiYowell15:42
FriarAbhiJit, YiamiYo, I clicked on a link that was working with 10.04 and now that I've updated to 10.10 I get an error when I click on it...15:42
YiamiYoi'm connected to my router wireless right now15:42
rokr1okie15:42
AbhiJitFriar, ask in #ubuntu+115:42
YiamiYoand i have another pc connected via eth15:42
Izinucsphil_in_london: nvm.. found it with apt-cache15:42
YiamiYobut my pc does not like the eth cable now :/15:43
gazaAbhijit , it suggests me   sda1 100mb and i am trying to reinstall grub  but cant mount my ubuntu partition its unallocated15:43
rokr1look for syslog yiamiyo15:43
phil_in_londonIzinucs, you'll may need to know the username/password for the database, but as I say, thats going to be an application specific issue, you'll need to investigate documentation on your application to learn more.15:43
rokr1cat /var/log/syslog15:43
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AbhiJitgaza, any error?15:44
melrockzNikyo: try: gksu /usr/sbin/synaptic15:44
rokr1lol i came here for help15:44
rokr1and helping15:44
rokr1UBUNTU rocks15:44
twanvdp:)15:44
melrockz:)15:45
skumara:)15:45
Izinucsphil_in_london: yea.. docs are pretty slim.. conf files haven't revealed anything yet.. I testing this DMS and then may impliment on a server/nas type setup but I'd like the data to live outside of /15:45
zanuscan someone tell me why I can't remove this font? http://pastebin.com/Kjsc0yuC15:45
gazaAbhijit , if i try mounting sda1 it says according to mtab sda 1 is already mounted15:45
dwarderdoes ubuntu has gparted on when booted as live cd?15:45
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lnskhi,i had setup a djbdns resolver in my machine. how can i add some static entries to the dnscache ?15:45
Nikyo@melrockz will synaptic only open from a "root" terminal and not from a terminal as a user?15:45
Izinucsdwarder: parted for sure.. gparted maybe15:45
skumaradwarder, yes15:45
AbhiJitgaza, so what is problem is it is already mounted? go ahead with it/15:46
frank__dwarder: iirc yes, if not, just install it15:46
AbhiJitdwarder, yes15:46
twanvdpCan anyone help me out with this -seems- simple problem? I cant get courier/mail to work because of error: Account's mailbox directory is not owned by the correct uid or gid . I created my maildir with maildirmake and let it be owned by apache user, my user account mail account but it keeps resulting in this error, DEBUG=1 option didnt result in addional information. Any suggestions would be very welcome.15:46
melrockzNikyo: Yes. It's used to install software packages, so it requires root privileges15:46
amanita_Hi, anyone using Energy XT music software here?15:47
rokr1try trinity live distribution for the guy who needs to get data back15:47
rusiviamanita_ No, I use Amarok or WINE iTunes.15:47
melrockzdwarder: It has gparted. (also parted, if u prefer command line.)15:47
phil_in_londonIzunics, the data will live outside of /, the only question is if its binary encoded in the db, or a pointer to a file location.15:47
rokr1best data recovery software is TESTDISK!!15:47
phil_in_londonIzunics, from the scant information I see, I'd say its binary encoded.15:47
gazaAbhijit ,  what is next?15:48
amanita_rusivi, Energy XT is a music studio app15:48
AbhiJitgaza, i dunno! read the guide15:48
AbhiJit!fixgrub | gaza15:48
ubottugaza: grub is the default boot manager for Ubuntu releases before Karmic (9.10). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto - See !grub2 for Karmic onwards.15:48
rusiviamanita_ I would use protools/QBasis15:48
rusiviamanita_ but that's getting cute15:48
amanita_rusivi, What are you talking about? I use python and gtk15:48
rokr1thats y i use N900 gaza15:48
gazaAbhijit, i did bro... no one works15:49
rusiviamanita_ Many professional studio houses use ProTools or Q-Basis. Just mentioning no big deal.15:49
amanita_rusivi, do you mean Cubase?15:49
Nikyo@melrockz thanks, I was trying to put synaptic command into wbar. wbar is like docky put for window managers like blackbox. When I click on the link on wbar "taskbar" synaptic does not open. Which makes sense now if it does not open as a user in a regular terminal and needs "root" permissions..15:49
gazaubottu ,  mine is grub215:49
melrockzIs there a music synth software like FruityLoops for ubuntu?15:49
rusiviaminta_ So your familiar cool do you like either?15:50
AbhiJitmelrockz, rhythmbox?15:50
amanita_rusivi, I know them well and FL-studio, Native Instruments software and stuff, but I ask about Energy XT for linux which is a Fruity-loops like studio app15:50
ZykoticK9AbhiJit, Rhythmbox is nothing like FruityLoops at all - music player vs music creator15:50
amanita_I have some sound problems, and need a solution, the sound is choppy and crackling15:50
phil_in_londonaudacity looks like a killer audio app, I haven't had the time to get jack setup to try most of its features, but thats the only thing I haven't ported over to linux yet.15:50
rusiviamanita_ I tried Hydrogen briefly for drum beats, and dusting out the memory banks another one for general synthing one sec...15:51
rokr1phil i though vlc was the killer app15:51
melrockzThanks, but I meant music synthesizer. Which U make music with, u don't need any instruments.15:51
AbhiJitZykoticK9, ok15:51
phil_in_londonvlc is for playing video or music, not creating your own music.15:51
AbhiJitmelrockz, yes there are moose15:51
twanvdpCan anyone help me out with simple courier/imap question ?15:52
AbhiJitmelrockz, go to software center and search with term 'music'15:52
AbhiJitmelrockz, e.g.linux mutlimeida studio,gnu denemo are great15:52
twanvdpapt-cache search music15:52
phil_in_londonardour looks like a good studio app.15:52
mark-ais /etc/tomcat6 the default directory for tomcat in ubuntu? if so then where are the startup / shutdown scripts?15:52
Izinucsphil_in_london: you sure about audacity?  it's a good app but if you're going to go through the trouble of installing and configuring jack then perhapsw Ardour (I think it's called)..15:52
Wakko10WarnerProtest the MPAA and DMCA goto http://leetbaka.com/tpb/ ;; please spread the word. The war is on.15:52
DeaConrosegarden is music sequ.15:53
ZykoticK9!ot | Wakko10Warner15:53
ubottuWakko10Warner: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!15:53
Nikyo@melrockz I play synths. Audacity is pretty good but not like fruity loops, per se. More like a recorder / editor.15:53
phil_in_londonyeah, ardour would be your daw/tracks app, but I like the mangling you can do with pure audio in audacity.15:53
rusiviamanita_ I've cut out a track via Audacity, still looking for which synth'ing program I used..15:53
melrockzI happened to see: energyXT 2.5.4. Is this a good music synthesizer?15:53
tacomasteri was wondering is there a way to add the widgits like in kde for gnome if so what is the package?15:53
twanvdpmelrockz you should take a look at mixcraft15:53
twanvdpperhaps you can run it in wine or somehting15:53
twanvdpvery smooth app15:53
kaddierUSUL: can i send you the log and you tell me what it means?15:53
Izinucstacomaster: plasmoids are nice15:53
iircajfounole15:54
melrockzNikyo: Audacity is a gud audio editor...15:54
c3lmelrockz: yeah, for example LMMS (Linux MultiMedia Studio), ardour. and then loads of smaller more feature specific tools. the unix philosophy is to make a program that does one thing, and does it great. instead of all featurs, but none on the top level. so you might want one tool for your synths, and another for the drum machine (like hydrogen). and the get all the pieces togeather in lmms or ardour. or do everything in ...15:54
c3l... one of them. note that I know very little about this, so there is probably other/better tools out there, you just have to find them, gl :)15:54
phil_in_londonas far as synths go, you can use any vst(i) compatible software that you had with windows and just wrap it to work in linux.15:54
rusiviamanita_ Linux MultiMedia Studio was for snyth'ing15:55
c3lmelrockz: stay away from emulating stuff in wine, if you want to run linux, run the native apps..15:55
kadditestdisk says the following: http://pastebin.com/CjAXkaG0 I'm pretty sure that is excatly the partition i need to recover :(15:55
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kaddi@ erUSUL15:55
rusiviamanita_ sorry for delay took me a while to remember that (used it briefly a couple years ago)15:55
rusiviamanita_ you can youtube people who made entire tracks in LMS15:55
amanita_rusivi, cool, altough I have choppy sound problems with the application Energy XT, under Ubuntu 10.04, thanks anyway15:56
Nikyo@melrockz I have not found any "soft synths" for my USB midi controller using Linux yet. I found "Rosegarden" which is a midi muti-track recorder, but it involves "Jack" as part as the interface, and  could not get everything to work right with my equpment.15:56
twanvdpCan anyone help me out with a courier / imap question ?15:56
melrockzc3l: Thanks, I'm also better off without Wine. :)15:56
kaddigaza: have you been able to make anzy progress?15:56
phil_in_londonnikyo, got any vsti soft synths from windows? you can use them in linux.15:56
DeaConLMMS  http://lmms.sourceforge.net/15:56
Izinucstwanvdp: ask the question first15:56
phil_in_londonnikyo, as long as its just the instrument and no application along with it.15:57
AbhiJittwanvdp, some one could probably if you asked the actual question15:57
rusiviDeaCon ty it is awesome and downloadable via Ubuntu Software Center15:57
rusiviDeaCon I was floored at all the default sounds available15:57
gazakaddi , working with rockr1 i will update15:57
Nikyo@phil_in_london Hi.. I got a lot of vst files that I use in a "old" version of calkwalk sonar that I have collected around the'net..15:58
melrockzchecking out LMMS...15:58
twanvdpIzinucs I keep getting this error : Account's mailbox directory is not owned by the correct uid or gid .. I tries several ownerships but it didnt work, option DEBUG=1 didt supplied additional information, any suggestions would be very welcome15:58
phil_in_londonnikyo, they'll work.15:58
vincentkI have a question - have a stuck update, been hung for about an hour on setting up lirc (0.8.6-0ubuntu4.2) on 10.4 AMD 64bit  Not sure what to do.15:59
phil_in_londonnikyo, I'm having the same problems with jack as you, not fully setup yet, it wants me to upgrade my hardware to make full use of it.15:59
Nikyo@phil_in_london In what program? I don't how they can work in Audacity i nLinux.. unless there is something that I am not seeing right?15:59
Izinucstwanvdp: do a ls -la on the directory and it will tell you what the owner and group settings are for the fiels16:00
Izinucs*files16:00
phil_in_londonnikyo, its not going to be audacity it will need to be a full daw application, play around with Ardour216:00
twanvdpwell, currently i thought mail:mail should be correct, which result in : drwx------  5 mail   mail      4096 2010-10-02 16:57 t.vanderpoel16:00
sepehrGEdit fails to load new plugins, no matter I put the plugin files in ~/.gnome2/gedit/plugins or /usr/lib/gedit-2/plugins16:00
melrockzAny way to get Lucid working with Intel 845 video card? Upgrade's due, no finances...:-(16:01
BluesKajvincentk, open another terminal : sudo dpkg --clear-avail16:01
Nikyo@phil_in_london Ardour2.. hmm.. I remember that program from way back.. I'll check it out Thank You. Enjoy the day / night.16:01
Izinucstwanvdp: might have to be root:mail16:01
* twanvdp checks16:01
phil_in_londonnikyo, http://www.breakfastquay.com/dssi-vst/16:02
YiamiYostill nothing...it was working just fine before...then i did an update and in that update was the 2.6.32-25-generic kernel...when update finished i rebooted my pc and got the error for graphic card so i run in failsafe-x to download the latest nvidia drivers(i had internet via eth)...then i gone to tty1 and closed the services gdm and failsafe-x as i do every time to install the nvidia drivers...then did sudo reboot and boom...rebooted fine but got no in16:02
YiamiYoternet...neither at ubuntu nor at windows..16:02
IzinucsYiamiYo: if both are not working then I'd suspect a bad card16:03
twanvdpIzinucs It keeps resulting into the same error, could a desperit chmod -R a+w /var/mail have result in problems? Is it possible that i have to set a mailuser in the courier configuration ?16:04
YiamiYoagain...it was working just fine before i update + reinstall the nvidia drivers...did nothing more..16:04
vincentkBluesKaj response is dpkg: status database area is locked by another process16:04
Eighteensquestion for anyone, When i booted my new ubuntu 10.04 system from the live cd, installed everything SOUNDED great, the sound was flawless, now after doing some updates, my sound (sounds GARBLED bad)16:04
kaddiI need help with recoverying my ext4 partitions, testdisk will not do it because it says that the end of one partition lies outside the hard drive size16:05
BluesKajvincentk, ok try , sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a16:05
kaddithe testdisk log is here: http://pastebin.com/e4QQtLDM16:06
Izinucstwanvdp: maybe .. I typically use numbers.. not use to the alpha characters for chmod outside of "x".. looks like my /var/mail directory is root:mail with permissions of d rwx rws r-x .. which translates to 7?5 .. the second set of three has an "s" which I'm not familure with.. never seen it.16:07
vincentkBlues16:07
kaddiWhat is now called "extended" used to be my ext4 partitions.16:07
vincentkit is offering to kill the process...yes I guess?16:07
jonkrihow come when i do "sudo chown -R jon:jon /home/jon" i get "chown: cannot access `/home/jon/.gvfs': Permission denied"?16:07
Coronadehi16:08
BluesKajvincentk, yes16:08
Coronadei installed unbuntu 10.x on my craptop16:08
Coronadeand the default resolution won't work16:08
aeon-ltd!enter | Coronade16:08
ubottuCoronade: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!16:08
jonkri.gvfs is "dr-x------ 2 jon jon 0 2010-10-02 14:10 .gvfs"16:08
aeon-ltd!details | Coronade16:08
ubottuCoronade: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."16:08
aeon-ltdCoronade: install drivers for your graphics card16:09
ZykoticK9Coronade, just FYI but there are two versions of Ubuntu that start with 10 --- Lucid 10.04 and Maverick 10.1016:09
CoronadeI have a problem with the display resolution when logging in.  I'm running Ubuntu version 10.x16:09
Coronademm probably Lucid16:09
ZykoticK9Coronade, "lsb_release -a" in a terminal will tell you for sure16:09
Coronadehow do I get to a terminal?  I can't log in.16:09
vincentkBluesKaj, OK, looks like post processing in the terminal I opened and update manager went to a read meatball Update is complete...not all changes have been applied.  I had a lot of packages updating.  Should I re-run the update manager and un select the problem packag?16:09
ZykoticK9Coronade, ops sorry16:09
aeon-ltdCoronade: ctrl-alt-f216:10
Coronadeok i'll try that, brb16:10
ahox___Hi, is it possible to have gnome run in kiosk mode with some apps whitelisted?16:10
BluesKajvincentk, now open synaptic /edit/fix broken packages/ and if needed click apply ...this is a reduntant step but just want to make sure16:10
ahox___Especially I do not want people change background images, create mail accounts, etc16:10
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melrockzIzinucs: please list the whole output. Is it like this? drwxrwsr-x  2 root mail 4096 2009-04-20 19:2916:11
BluesKajvincentk, what is the app/package you're trying to install ?16:11
vincentkBluesKaj - Being prompted for a restart before I run synaptic.  Should I restat first or synaptic edit / fix broken packages first?16:12
aeon-ltdahox___: i suppose you could 'chmod -x' them to prevent them from running16:12
twanvdpIzinucs Unfor. still not working, thanks for your help though16:12
Izinucsmelrockz: I did but I just seperated the octects.. just pretend the spaces aren't there.16:12
Coronadehi i'm back16:12
vincentkBluesKaj - it hung on updating LIRC16:12
Coronadethe screen messes up when I ctrl+alt+F216:12
Izinucstwanvdp: good luck16:12
BluesKajvincentk, yes fix the broken pkges first16:12
ahox___aeon-ltd: well, I just wan the kiosk mode for the guest user, not for everyone16:13
Coronadei suppose i could try to do it blind, if i knew what was happening.16:13
vincentkBluesKaj, Thanks - trying now16:13
melrockzIzinucs: u had a uid gid problem, right? the whole o/p is then needed.16:13
Daltonubuntu/member/idleone and *!*@gateway/web/*$#ubuntu-proxy-users16:14
aeon-ltdahox___: what do you want the guest user to run?16:14
melrockzIzinucs: (i'm still trying to figure out the rw's' problem)16:14
Gigacorehello guys.. I got an error stating "Can't authenticate some packages" while trying to upgrade to MM RC.. what to do now? There's no one on #ubuntu+1 at the moment who can answer my Q16:14
Izinucsmelrockz: nope.. I didn't .. I was helping twanvdp with his issue but wondered what the "s" was in the second octet of drwxrwsr-x16:14
IdleOneDalton: ??16:14
ahox___aeon-ltd: firefox, evince, file-manager, and I think that's it16:14
ahox___and openoffice16:14
melrockzk16:14
Coronadeis anyone got an idea for the display resolution? the console (ctrl+alt+F2) doesn't display properly either16:15
ahox___those are bascially internet terminals for a conference, so the people should be able to work on their talks, read papers16:15
melrockzbtw, how large is LMMS download?16:15
gazaroot@ubuntu:~# sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/boot16:15
gazaroot@ubuntu:~# sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/ /dev/sda116:15
gaza/usr/sbin/grub-setup: warn: Attempting to install GRUB to a partition instead of the MBR.  This is a BAD idea..16:15
gaza/usr/sbin/grub-setup: warn: Embedding is not possible.  GRUB can only be installed in this setup by using blocklists.  However, blocklists are UNRELIABLE and its use is discouraged..16:15
gaza/usr/sbin/grub-setup: error: if you really want blocklists, use --force.16:15
FloodBot3gaza: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.16:15
Daltonubuntu/bot/floodbot and gaza!*@*16:15
melrockz(not-that-important:-D)16:15
vincentkBluesKaj, I opened syanptic and clicked edit then fix broken packages and status line in bottom of window states "Successfully fixed dependancy problems"  Should I reboot now?16:16
BluesKajvincentk, is the pakage manager rquirig a restart ?16:18
BluesKajor has the notification disappeared , vincentk ?16:19
vincentkBluesKag - not the one I instantiated to run fix broke packages.  That restart dialog remains from my update attempt that we aborted earlier.16:20
Eighteenswhat would cause sound to stop working, was working great untill i did a get of vlc player and some other codecs that i thought were needed to play some video files16:20
Eighteensi should say it's working, but sounds garbled16:21
BluesKajvincentk, ok reboot16:21
coz_hey guys   a little problem...can someon upload their ./ib/plymouth folder16:21
mushroomblueEighteens: what backend is VLC using? can you switch?16:21
coz_sorry  /lib/plymouth folder16:21
vincentkBluesKaj OK16:22
Eighteensahh got me, let me look, i'm pretty new to this /stuff16:22
juanmaola kien res16:22
IdleOne!es | juanma16:22
ubottujuanma: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.16:22
mushroomblueEighteens: go into VLC's options, and see if there's any way to change the audio backend.16:23
eross10.04 lts wont upgrade to 10.10, right?16:23
xanguaeross: yes if you want to16:23
Eighteensmushroomblue  thanks, i'll try16:23
Izinucseross: not until 10.10 is officially release and then only if you want it to16:23
erossoh thought RC meant it was official16:24
mushroomblueeross sudo update-manager -d16:24
theadmineross: RC means Release Candidate. Close to stable but not enough yet16:24
Izinucseross: it's close16:24
mushroomblueRC netbook edition was useless on my AspireOne, so I'm waiting for final.16:24
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melrockzIzinucs: looks like it's the SGID. inherits rights of the group of the owner of the file.16:25
erossso i can upgrade through that once available without losing my home contents?16:25
mushroomblueeross: yup16:25
Izinucsmelrockz: yes.. I just found that too.. if it's a lower case "s" then the execute bit is set.. if it's a capital "S" then it isn't16:25
mushroomblueeross: hell, if you don't do a guided install, you could wipe every directory but /home, and keep your home dir. :)16:25
theadminDoes anyone know what does "rc" actually stand for (as in, ".vimrc")16:25
mushroomblueResourCe?16:26
Izinucstheadmin: "really cool"..16:26
erossok october 10th... close  thanks16:26
kaddi!testdisk16:26
Izinucseross: always best to have a separate /home partition "just in case" you have to reinstall16:27
theadminkaddi: You're looking for fsck16:27
theadmin!fsck | kaddi16:27
ubottukaddi: fsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot16:27
erossreally it is on a separate hd.. ubuntu is on ssd16:27
kadditheadmin: no I'm not, I'm looking for testdisk16:27
kaddihttp://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Step_By_Step#A_partition_is_still_missing:_Deeper_Search16:28
theadmin!find testdisk|kaddi16:28
ubottuPackage/file testdiskkaddi does not exist in lucid16:28
Izinucseross: then you're good to go16:28
theadminuh16:28
theadmin!find testdisk16:28
ubottuFound: testdisk16:28
theadminThere it is16:28
theadminkaddi: It's in the "testdisk" package16:28
ssnhi guys, is there any easy to use filename shortener for ubuntu (no bash foo)?16:28
kaddii was looking for the link, I just posted, but tanks16:28
theadminssn: What do you want it do do? I might write one myself :D16:29
melrockzhehe proof that the bot's really a bot:-D16:29
c3lssn: what is a filename shortener? that makes filenames shorter - based on what? like only keeping the first x characters in the filename?16:30
ZykoticK9!info testdisk | theadmin kaddi16:31
ubottutheadmin: testdisk (source: testdisk): Partition scanner and disk recovery tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.11-1 (lucid), package size 1510 kB, installed size 4672 kB16:31
BluesKajvincentk, so your reboot was successful , perhaps a different version of LIRC will work...does it require drivers?16:31
karelhhi, I was wondering if anyone could please help me - I have ATI 7500 Mobility graphic card, and I would like to use those open-source drivers, and configure the xorg.conf file (i'm using ubuntu 8.10) as it was done in the ubuntuforums, but I seem to have the xserver-xorg-video-vesa and I believe it uses this instead of ATI/Radeon drivers (which I installed). But when I remove the vesa package, i get "no screens found error" xorg.conf here: htt16:31
karelhp://ubuntu.pastebin.com/PGCW7Nhs16:31
BluesKajgotta go16:32
oraclehelp computer16:32
ssnc3l: yes theadmin want to get a lot of folders and files to have only 31 character filenames16:32
kaddianyone here that would be able to help me recover broken ext4 partitions?16:32
Izinucskarelh: 8.10 I believe is EOL.. end of life and no longer supported.. lots has changed since then.. including what vers. of X.org the drivers will work on.16:32
ZykoticK9karelh, line 351 Driver "vesa"16:33
donvito2maverick rock16:33
donvito2:)16:33
theadmin!maverick | donvito216:33
ubottudonvito2: Maverick Meerkat is the codename for Ubuntu 10.10, due October 10, 2010 - Maverick Release Candidate at http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/1010 , discussion and support in #ubuntu+116:33
donvito2i know i installed and it rocks bro16:33
donvito2:)16:33
donvito2try it16:33
theadmindonvito2: try it? No thanks :D I'm a fedora user and am here mainly to help other people16:33
karelhEOL - oh well :/,16:33
ZykoticK9donvito2, please don't recommend "beta" software for general use16:34
alex__how can i burn CD or DVD on ubuntu ?16:34
samfisherif i download 10.10 RC and when the final gets out I update/upgrade, will my system be stable?16:34
c3lssn: and he did *not* want to use bash? thats a perfect example of something you would do with a shellscript :)16:34
Izinucssamfisher: yes16:34
theadminalex__: Brasero. It should come preinstalled. Applications - Sound/Video - Brasero Disc Burner16:34
Izinucssamfisher: update/upgrade/dist-upgrade16:34
ssnc3l: i am to stupid and have no time. i tried on mac os x, but all the available filename shorteners can not handle large amounts of files over smb shares16:34
karelhZykoticK9, yeah - any idea how to get it to work with "radeon"?16:35
donvito2i cant configure gdesklet16:35
ZykoticK9karelh, sorry i don't help with ATI issues, good luck man16:35
karelhoh, thanks16:35
theadminkarelh: To solve any problem with an ATI card, get an Nvidia and put that there instead :D16:36
Izinucstheadmin: :)16:36
avisi like color hues on ATI16:36
theadminkarelh: However Ubuntu worked out of the box on my Radeon back on the old laptop16:36
karelh:D16:36
avisred and orange look nice16:36
Izinucsavis: could just be how it sets the monitor... same adjustments can be made on nvidia..16:37
ZykoticK9karelh, just FYI, I agree with theadmin's non-solution ;)16:37
avisi dont wish to go to much trouble16:37
rokr1ATI + UBUNTU waste of time16:37
vincentkBluesKaj I have successfully rebooted and update manager reports my system is up to date.  I thank you for your knowledgeable support and assistance.  I am in technical support for NetApp and I know how challenging support can be. Thanks again16:37
ssnhi guys, is there any easy to use filename shortener for ubuntu (no bash foo, making folders and filenames shorter than 31 characters)?16:37
avisnot true.  for me, good.  i'm not gamer16:38
SuperMiguelis there a way to edit the rEDIt menu? like i have OSX and linux, but there are 2 linux icons there.. is there a way to delete one of them??16:38
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Izinucsssn: you're trunkating file names on or for the benefit of a windows machine?16:38
_aegisHi all...  I have to rebuild my RAID array and I'm in the process of moving my filesystem off the current array.  Can anyone tell me if I will have a problem using the following command:  tar cf - / | (cd /mnt/destination/dir; tar xvf -)16:38
Tecanhow do i get the name of a dvd thats in the drive from shell ?16:39
Tecani've tried google and it seems hopeless16:39
IzinucsTecan: ls /media/cdrom016:39
Tecanno the name16:39
Tecanthe label16:39
reksolved type that name in the terminal16:40
theadminTecan: I think you might find it in output of "mount", alas, not on the Linux machine so can't be sure16:40
rekhi, bluetooth doesn't work any help?16:40
theadmin!doesntwork | rek16:40
Tecanmount16:40
ubotturek: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.16:40
ssnIzinucs: Mac OS X16:40
theadminTecan: ...terminal, not here16:40
Tecanyep it looks good thanks16:41
MyWayhello, does somebody know if the Asus Xonar DG works under ubuntu?16:41
Izinucsssn: you might be limited to a bit of bash foo .. is Mac having issues with long filenames?16:41
rektheadmin: it's a lot of month i can't send or receive files16:41
phil_in_londonrek, have you installed bluez yet?16:41
rekyes16:42
phil_in_londonrek, whats the output show from hciconfig hci0 -a ?16:42
theadminrek: The model of the bluetooth device may be of help.16:42
Appi_DesktopIs there any partition recovery software available in Ubuntu 10.04?16:42
theadminAppi_Desktop: testdisk16:42
ZykoticK9!info testdisk | Appi_Desktop16:43
ubottuAppi_Desktop: testdisk (source: testdisk): Partition scanner and disk recovery tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.11-1 (lucid), package size 1510 kB, installed size 4672 kB16:43
rek!codepad16:43
rek!pastebin16:43
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Appi_Desktoptheadmin, ZykoticK9 , ubottu, Thanks a lot.16:43
theadminubottu: thanks | Appi_Desktop16:44
ubottuAppi_Desktop: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)16:44
rekhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/504553/ phil_in_london16:44
phil_in_londonrek, I'm assuming you're hiding the baddr and that its not actually 11:11:11.....16:44
rekphil_in_london:  don't know16:45
phil_in_londonrek, have you been messing with your hcid.conf file?16:45
theadminrek: That is, is the BD Adress really displayed as 11:11... or did you modify it?16:45
bonez2046I have used logmein a long time, but it seems unstable lately.. I need to remotely control a mac and a few win xp boxes.. Suggestions on something better for remote control like,but better than logmein?16:45
rekno theadmin phil_in_london16:46
theadminbonez2046: Check www.teamviewer.com16:46
phil_in_londonrek, okay, give us another paste, this time need the contents of   /etc/bluetooth/hcid.conf16:46
MyWaydoes somebody know if the Asus Xonar DG works under ubuntu? Or any cheap soundcard with internal spdif for hdmi16:46
phil_in_londonI'm back in 5.16:46
rekphil_in_london:  sure of the directory?16:47
johndudlifukafternoon16:47
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ExterminansHi, is there a way to choose which chanel should be used by the volume panel? I need to use PCM instead of Master since the Master-Channel is bugged with my soundcard16:49
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theadminraw_boot: Stop that.16:49
* raw_boot slap theadmin16:50
theadminraw_boot: often nick changing is no good.16:50
phil_in_londonrek, sorry that might be my custom kernel, just a sec.16:51
raw_bootsorry just registering16:51
rekphil_in_london: it is empty16:51
Eighteensmy sound was awesome when i was using live cd, now it sounds so bad, i want to scream16:51
theadminraw_boot: Okay then. I thought you were doing it intentionally16:51
raw_bootnope16:51
bonez2046theadmin: thanks.. giving it a try16:51
raw_boot:)16:51
bonez2046theadmin: do you use teamviewer?16:51
theadminbonez2046: Yeah16:52
phil_in_londonyeah, sorry, that one was for mips.16:52
phil_in_londonjust a sec.16:52
ExterminansNobody knows how to choose which channel should be used for volumecontroll?16:52
_aegisHi all...  I have to rebuild my RAID array and I'm in the process of moving my filesystem off the current array.  Can anyone tell me if I will have a problem using the following command from a rescue CD:  tar cf - /root/file/system | (cd /mnt/destination/dir; tar xvf -)16:52
friedoanyone familiar with configuring the gnome network manager plugin vor vpnc? i got a plain config file but i want to do it with the plugin: http://www.zid.tuwien.ac.at/kom/tunet/vpn/vpnc/vpnc_client_fuer_den_externen_vpn_zugang/16:53
bahamashello, i have installed vim, but i can only use it in the terminal. what else should i install if i want GUI?16:54
phil_in_londonrek, do you have more than one bluetooth device setup in this computer?16:54
theadminbahamas: the vim-gtk package16:55
rekno phil_in_london16:55
phil_in_londonrek, try  hciconfig -a    see what that says to us.16:55
bahamastheadmin: thank you16:55
theadminbahamas: np. Vim FTW.16:55
phil_in_londonrek, have you installed bluemon yet?16:55
donvito2conky roxxxxxxxxxxxx16:55
rekphil_in_london:  i've just installed it right now16:55
phil_in_londonrek, what about blueman, they are basically the same, its just preference to which you like, blueman may have more features for you.16:56
wolfricwill using extra visual effects take much of a toll on a battery if running from laptop16:56
bahamastheadmin: heh, i'm just starting to use it.16:56
rekok phil_in_london just installed it16:57
theadminbahamas: It's easy to learn but if you want you can PM and I'll try to help16:57
theadminbahamas: It looks complicated at first you see16:57
codezer0hello , i am using ubuntu 9.10.. i wish to know wats the status of modversioning in this???16:57
bahamastheadmin: can you recommend any good settings for using python with vim?16:57
bahamastheadmin: indeed, it does, especially in the terminal :)16:57
phil_in_londonrek, okay, you'll want those to manage the bluetooth afterwards, now we have to find out why you have a bogus address in your configuration.16:57
codezer0hello , i am using ubuntu 9.10.. i wish to know wats the status of modversioning in this???16:58
theadminbahamas: Well, a few commands can be added to .vimrc but I don't use python with vim. Altough both rock as heck.16:58
phil_in_londonrek, is this a laptop with bluetooth installed, or is it a usb you've added?16:58
miyamotocan someone help me to connecct mobile broadband net to ubuntu16:58
theadmincodezer0: Please don't repeat yourself.16:58
amarcolinohi anyone can direct me, got two machines that I want to turn into a load balancing cluster, on them will run vm images hosting low traffic websites, any information that can be provided on how to achieve this and keep them in sync?16:58
theadminmiyamoto: May be able to.16:58
Tecanhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5ouOa9k0gE < sheryl crow16:58
rekphil_in_london: it's some month i can't use bluetooth with linux except with my smartq 516:58
codezer0ok, so can anyone tell me???16:59
phil_in_londonrek, not sure what a smartq 5 is.16:59
bahamastheadmin: ok, i'll google for some examples. i know i've seen examples of vim config for python16:59
rekphil_in_london: usb adapter i have many usb adapters, its a MID16:59
rekarm core..16:59
phil_in_londonrek, the 11:11:11:11:11:11 is bothering me, you don't remember editing a conf file somewhere and putting that in there do you?17:00
rekphil_in_london:  i'm sure17:00
codezer0i m trying to learn module programming17:00
codezer0so if sum1 can help with modversioning17:00
phil_in_londonrek, do you have a different usb bluetooth adapter you can plug in? perhaps this one has gone bad...I'm not even sure where you could possibly edit a conf file to replace the hardware address of the unit.17:01
theadmincodezer0: Well if someone knew, someone would help. that's how our IRC works.17:01
rekphil_in_london:  maybe17:01
phil_in_londonrek, you could try    hciconfig hci0 reset17:01
codezer0well where can i get information, sir17:01
_aegisHi all...  I have to rebuild my RAID array and I'm in the process of moving my filesystem off the current array.  Can anyone tell me if I will have a problem using the following command from a rescue CD:  tar cf - /root/file/system | (cd /mnt/destination/dir; tar xvf -)17:01
phil_in_londonrek, and then hciconfig hci0 -a      and see if it changes at all.17:01
AbhiJitcodezer0, #programming17:01
theadmincodezer0: Post on www.ubuntuforums.org17:01
rekphil_in_london:  the same17:02
phil_in_londonrek, yeah, I was just checking all the parameters for hciconfig, you couldn't change that even if you wanted to...somethings buggerred with the bluetooth device itself.17:03
codezer0abhijit: can i pm u??17:03
user2is the icedtea plugin the only plugin for firefox now available for ubuntu 10.04 > 10.10?17:03
AbhiJitcodezer0, about what?17:03
codezer0abt the same17:03
codezer0:)17:04
Tecanshit stinks17:04
IdleOne!language | Tecan17:04
ubottuTecan: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.17:04
magicianlordwhat is a reason why a router would fail to provide a dns?17:04
Ek|mu5routers don't provide DNS17:04
Ek|mu5unless there17:05
Ek|mu5's named running on it17:05
magicianlordwhatever, the thing it's supposed to provide to the remove computer via wifi17:05
rokr1_dhcp option 3 is not functioning rite magic17:05
magicianlordif it doesnt, what's what problem17:05
magicianlordrokr1_: yeah17:05
theadminmagicianlord: Hm. Try setting the DNS servers on router to 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 and see if it goes.17:06
rekok phil_in_london17:06
JimRome@magic - the router may not have the DNS servers entered into the configuration. You can get those from your ISP or use open DNS servers like opendns.17:07
rokr1_if the router runs openwrt or other opensource firmware just do sudo service dnsmasq restart17:07
rooliganHi17:07
magicianlordok JimRome. thanks17:07
rokr1_sorry just service dnsmasq restart17:07
bahamasdoesn't a shortcut appear in the Applications menu after installing vim-gtk?17:07
magicianlordis there a way to set the dns remotely to it?17:08
rooliganbahamas: yes17:08
phil_in_londonrek, have you installed bluez-utils yet?17:08
bahamasrooligan: under what category? i can't find it17:08
rekphil_in_london: can't find package17:09
rooliganbahamas: Sorry, I don't know anymore17:09
JimRome@magic - most routers are running a web based config. plug into the router and browse to its IP address. The DNS servers are configurable. You type the DNS servers IP addresses into the screen and save the config. If it is command line based router, you usually SSH into the router.17:09
phil_in_londonrek, hmm, thats not good, are you just using apt-get? does it show in synaptec?17:10
rekyes,wait17:10
bahamasrooligan: ok, i opened it by typing gvim in the terminal17:10
BluesKajJimRome, magicianlord, opendns seems tp block email after the a dynamic IP changes ..it happened to me ..googledns seems to work better for those of outside the US17:10
magicianlordJimRome: yeah. thanks17:10
rekphil_in_london: was spelled in a bad way17:11
rooliganbahamas: maybe in Development, or Accessoires17:11
rekphil_in_london: installed17:11
phil_in_londonrek, try this    1)   hciconfig hci0 down   2) unplug/replug bluetooth  3)  hciconfig hci0 -a17:12
bahamasrooligan: i don't have Development, and it's not in Accessories. (i'm on Ubuntu 9.04, btw)17:12
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reksame bd address phil_in_london17:12
phil_in_londonrek, that was pretty much the last shot, I'd heard of people with similar problems but their fix was to make sure the utils was up to date.17:13
magicianlordbahamas: upgrading to 10.10 soon?17:13
phil_in_londonrek, this bluetooth, is it a bluetooth/harddrive combo?17:13
rooliganbahamas: Did you install it now? I installed now, it is in alacarte, the menu editor, but not in the menu itself17:13
bahamasmagicianlord: when i get a better internet connection at least17:13
rooliganbahamas: maybe you need to log out and log in17:13
rekphil_in_london: next time we're trying with a different adapter17:13
rekthank you17:14
phil_in_londonrek, you're welcome.17:14
phil_in_londonrek, hciconfig hci0 -a, if you don't see a hardware address similar to a mac address, then you've got a problem17:14
reknice17:15
Eighteensi killed the pulseaudio, it restarted, and now sound seems to be sounding good again, so it's not garbled anymore17:15
bahamasrooligan: ok, i'll check again after i log out17:15
Tecanintense17:15
rekphil_in_london: just plugged in a new adapter and i see a macaddr17:16
phil_in_londonrek, then the rest should be easy using either bluemon or blueman.17:17
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phil_in_londonrek, you just trying to send a file to your phone or something like that?17:18
nikkitai did it :P17:18
nikkitabut now my internet wont work :(17:18
nikkitaon ubuntu17:18
rekphil_in_london:  yes but i'm not able to do it17:18
phil_in_londonrek, is your phone's bluetooth discoverable?17:18
rekthe conncetion disappear17:18
rekyes of course17:19
phil_in_londonrek, is your phone obex capable?17:20
reksure17:20
nikkitacan anyone help please17:20
knollsis there a way i can change sound cards using the cli?17:20
phil_in_londonrek, so you've done an sdptool browse XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX to confirm this?17:20
mineurdepends nikkita :) just ask and you might get an answer17:20
nikkitawell ubuntu wouldnt install so i installed kubuntu17:21
nikkitaand my internet works from a usb modem17:21
nikkitahow can i install it :s17:21
guntbert!enter | nikkita17:21
ubottunikkita: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!17:21
Dr_Willisnikkita:  this is a DSL modem? dialup? or what exactly?17:21
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c3lwhats the core differences between ubuntu desktop and server edition?17:22
nikkitadr_willis its a 3g modem17:22
greppyc3l: gnome.17:22
Dr_Willisc3l:  server = no X server installed, and i think has some services installed.17:22
X-Sleepy-Xnikkita: what brand?17:22
Dr_Willis!3g17:22
nikkitahuwaie17:22
phil_in_londonrek, install  obex-data-server, obexfs and ussp-push    thats for starters.17:22
mineurnikkita: you know the brand and model?17:22
guntbert!server | c3l17:22
ubottuc3l: Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is !Lucid (Lucid Lynx 10.04) - More info: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition - Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/ - Support in #ubuntu-server17:22
X-Sleepy-Xnikkita: does the modem work as a usb storage device as well as a modem?17:23
Dr_Willisc3l:  for my home network. I use the desktop edition and install the services i need.17:23
c3lgreppy: Dr_Willis: so there is no real disadvantage with using the desktop version for a server? I need X as my server will act HTPC too..17:23
nikkitayes x-sleepy-x17:23
MasterOfDisasterc3l: they use the same packages, but preinstall different sets17:24
mineurnikkita: try executing lsusb17:24
c3lwhat about the extendet server support? what is it that it is supporting extra on the server edition versus the desktop edition?17:24
rekphil_in_london:  Failed to connect to SDP server on 00:0E:6D:F0:68:93: Connection reset by peer17:24
phil_in_londonrek, so thats your phone turning off the connection.17:24
mineursee if lsusb gives you some feedback on what modem it is17:24
X-Sleepy-Xnikkita: ok try to install usb-modeswitch17:24
nikkitaim new to ubuntu :(17:25
plovsc3l support here means longer security updates17:25
vivek_40I am planing to buy this netbook lenovo ideapad s10-3t. It has a touch  screen monitor and comes with win7 installed. It does not have a free  dos version. Before buying it I wanted to know whether, I can remove win  7 from it and install ubuntu and if ubuntu would support its touch  screen behaviour .17:25
rekphil_in_london: il''l try another device17:25
X-Sleepy-Xnikkita: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install usb-modeswitch17:25
guntbertc3l: you get the extended support only for "server" packages (not for gnome....)17:25
X-Sleepy-Xnikkita: type that into the terminal17:25
plovsc3l for server related packages17:25
phil_in_londonrek, did you phone notify you about "data connection to blah blah blah" ?17:25
rekphil_in_london: it's silent :)17:25
Dr_Willisc3l:  use the desktop edition then17:26
guntbertvivek_40: can you try it with a live CD/usb key?17:26
phil_in_londonrek, unless they are paired (which you can do with bluemon or blueman) you'll have to acknowledge the transmission on the phone.17:26
X-Sleepy-Xnikkita: you might have to reboot the pc or perhaps just reconnect the 3g modem after the installation17:26
c3lguntbert: plovs: that explains it, thanks. so If i want a HTPC/server i should go with the desktop edition?17:26
c3lDr_Willis: thanks :)17:26
nikkitasleepy it comes up in the bottom tray it can see it connected17:26
Dr_Willisc3l:  much easier to make a desktop a server.. then the reverse17:26
nikkitabut i didnt know you can install stuff on ubuntu17:26
rekphil_in_london: can't do that even using a gui the pairing went bad17:26
vivek_40guntbert:No i guess they wont let me try it with my usb and ubuntu on it before buying it17:27
phil_in_londonrek, so what are you doing there? going through the "really old junk box" ? :)17:27
Dr_Willisvivek_40:   most netbooks are decently well supported by linux/ubuntu17:27
guntbertvivek_40: then I don't know - sorry17:27
X-Sleepy-Xnikkita: i'm not sure i understood the last two messages...17:27
Dr_Willisvivek_40:  the touchscreen.. may be a issue.. never had a touchscreen'17:27
plovsc3l ubuntu is like lego, it is a matter of adding and removing packages to turn it into a server or workstation or both17:28
rekphil_in_london: what?17:28
c3lnikkita: what do you mean. ubuntu got some huge repos17:28
vivek_40Dr_Willis:yes the touchscreen was a thing i was most worried about17:28
Dr_Willisvivek_40:   check the forums.17:28
phil_in_londonrek, just wondering, first we fought with your broken bluetooth adapter, now it seems we are fighting with your phone.17:28
Dr_Willisvivek_40:  the little ive used touchscreens.. i found them to be a gimmic. :)17:28
pk4rIs lack of ALT+F2 (Gnome run command) functionality in Ubuntu 10.10 Netbook edition a bug or feature ?17:28
vivek_40Dr_Willis: have posted on the ubuntu Forum but ....17:28
nikkitamy boyfriend told me to install ubntu because its better than windows...17:28
rekyeah17:28
Dr_Willisvivek_40:  you did search the forums first?17:29
vivek_40Dr_Willis: This model actually folds up like a tablet and looks pretty good17:29
X-Sleepy-Xnikkita: by installing usb-modeswitch ubuntu should detect the modem part of the usb dongle and not just the storage device...17:29
vivek_40Dr_Willis: no will check that out too17:29
c3lplovs: ah I see, thanks. but what makes ubuntu ubuntu is really the preinstalled stuff, you could get debian, but there you'd have to configure it a bit more to get what you want, right?17:29
phil_in_londonrek, I messaged you, might be easier to read/follow there instead.17:29
Dr_Willisvivek_40:  :) Should of searched befor you posted. heh.. there may be a thread on that exact machine.17:29
suprengrEver since last kernel update ( to 2.6.32.25 ) a couple of strange things have started happening - most noticeable is when unmounting in nautilus an external or internal drive "could not display computer:///" is shown. No problem as nautilus actually can (I just click "ok" to kill msg box & carry on) - on last boot all the title areas on all apps disppeared - on reboot, all ok.  Can someone call out rhe best fschk comm17:29
suprengrand to use to -fully- the drive (tho SMART reports ok). Cheers.17:29
suprengr...and soz for the long post!17:30
vivek_40Dr_Willis:ok :-) sometimes you do feel lazy ..17:30
* suprengr waits for warning from ubottu ;)17:30
Dr_Willissuprengr:  'title bar' vanishing i is proberly compiz crashing17:30
plovsc3l well, if you want a workstation+server you have to install packges anywy, but starting with the workstation makes working defaults for sounds etc, server soft is usually easier to add17:30
suprengrDr_Willis: that makes sense... thnx17:31
usuarioopi17:32
suprengrAny ideas re the funny Nautilus behaviour... happens here on desktop & on netbook. Both since kernel update only.17:33
usuariooi17:33
usuarioalguem me diz como me comunicar aqui17:33
wedwo!es | usuario17:34
ubottuusuario: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.17:34
c3lI think thats italian17:34
c3l!it17:34
ubottuVai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)17:34
X-Sleepy-Xportugese17:34
AbhiJitwhy not ask him only?17:34
X-Sleepy-Xits portugese17:34
xanguac3l: no it's not, he just doesn't know how to write17:34
AbhiJit:(17:35
suprengrDr_Willis: Any ideas re the funny Nautilus behaviour... happens here on desktop & on netbook. Both since kernel update only17:35
Izinucsis there a cli command to list the current running kernel?17:35
AbhiJitIzinucs, uname -r17:35
levineusuario, ubuntu-br17:35
Dr_Willissuprengr:  no idea on that..  as for fscking the drive.  theres commands to make it fsck them at the next reboot.17:35
Dr_Willis!fsck17:35
ubottufsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot17:35
frederik1986hi all17:35
AbhiJitlevine, he left17:35
IzinucsAbhiJit: levine thanks17:36
levineok17:36
frederik1986i have a ifconfig related question ( running ubuntu lts lucid17:36
suprengrDr_Willis: cheeres & many thanks (copies command and gets ready to reboot ;-D17:36
AbhiJitfrederik1986, ask17:36
frederik1986i have a ssh tunnel to this machine ,  when i broke te connectn  , tun0 was still there17:36
frederik1986the howto i read says that when connection is broken tun0 would be gone17:37
frederik1986now when i make a ssh tunnel again , its says device busy17:37
Izinucsfrederik1986: are you running screen or byobu?17:37
frederik1986another channel works17:37
frederik1986screen17:37
Izinucsfrederik1986: when you broke the connection did you do that by closing the terminal window?17:38
frederik1986yes17:38
frederik1986screen was terminated17:38
norbi905Hello, I recently purchased a PS3 and found out that I can somehow stream media to it using DLNA?  I have ubuntu server installed, along with a windows machine.  All my media are on the windows machine, what I would like to be able to do is copy this media to the ubuntu server, and have that act as the "media server".  Now I believe I need something like NFS export from ubuntu so windows can see the volume ?  Can17:38
norbi905someone point me in the right direction, thank you.17:38
dwarderthis is my partition table http://img5.glowfoto.com/images/2010/10/02-0908014933L.png, i want unallocated space to be added sda3(ext4) filesistem, why gparted not allowing me to do this?17:39
arrrghhhanybody use PS3MediaServer in here?  i'm having performance issues with it...17:39
Izinucsfrederik1986: then you didn't break the connection by closing the terminal window.. you "exited" the ssh session then exited screen then closed the terminal windows.. does that sound familure?17:39
frederik1986windows doesn't see nfs  unless you pay for the client i think?17:39
Dr_Willisnorbi905:  you use 'samba' to get windows <-> linux  shares setup17:39
frederik1986i typed exit to leave the session yes17:39
mansoorhi guys, i need some help to install IES4Linux on ubuntu, is this a right place for it?17:39
Dr_Willis!samba | norbi90517:39
ubottunorbi905: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.17:39
Nattgewhow can I change my credit card info for ubuntu one music store?17:40
norbi905Dr_Willis, From what I heard, NFS has much better performance compared to samba, am I miss-informed?17:40
frederik1986yes but nfs insn't supported in windows17:40
Dr_Willisnorbi905:  it can be.. but  good luck finding a NFS client for windows for free.. Ive never found one yet.17:40
Izinucsfrederik1986: hummm... then I have no ideal why tun0 is still alive.. sorry.. I thought screen may not have been terminated correctly and was still live but in the background.17:40
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frederik1986no no ,checked that17:41
Dr_Willisnorbi905:  samba is pretty much a standard feature on most netwrork gizmos,.,.17:41
frederik1986on my laptop , tun0 was gone17:41
frederik1986could the problem be in sshd_config?17:41
norbi905Dr_Willis, Windows 7 does NFS out of the box I believe17:41
Dr_Willisnorbi905:  the win7 I have definatly does not..17:41
Dr_Willisi looked. :)17:42
norbi905Dr_Willis, I will give it a try first, lets see how it goes :)17:42
Dr_Willisnorbi905:  perhaps the uber-business-whatever-elite-edition does.17:42
Solvedcoz_: are you still there by any chance?17:42
IzinucsDr_Willis: might be the version of win7?  they have 5 and some features you only get when spending $$'s17:42
Dr_Willisnorbi905:  you will want to learn how samba works.. its the best way to share stuff with windows machines.. and even handy for linux to linux stuff.17:42
coz_Solved,  yes17:42
greppynorbi905: in general, samba is better on linux than nfs.17:42
coz_Solved,  how did that go ?17:42
arrrghhhnorbi905, i have 'ultimate' and it doesn't have NFS support.17:42
Dr_Willisarrrghhh:  guess its not so Ultimate eh? :) Gotta love marketing terms..17:43
frederik1986i just created the tunnel again , but with -vv17:43
frederik1986when i exit on server , it hangs on debug2: channel 1: send close17:43
frederik1986debug2: channel 1: is dead17:43
frederik1986debug2: channel 1: garbage collecting17:43
frederik1986debug1: channel 1: free: client-session, nchannels 1317:43
FloodBot3frederik1986: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.17:43
frederik1986sry17:43
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Solvedcoz_: its not in desktop, its still in the downloads folder17:44
arrrghhhDr_Willis, haha yea.  i think you can download some pack from their website but it didn't work that well.  samba "just works"17:44
norbi905Hmm, I have Ultimate as well.  Ahh I believe it was an iSCSI volume that I exported which windows found.  I had the two confused sorry.17:44
coz_Solved,  ok  go into downloads  right click and Move to   Desktop17:44
nikkitaomg it dont work :( dr_willis17:44
phil_in_londonGo the other way, put nfs server on windows http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?FamilyID=896C9688-601B-44F1-81A4-02878FF11778&displaylang=en17:44
coz_Solved,  you can move  it back later17:44
Solvedcoz_: ok done17:45
coz_Solved,  ok right click that file go to Properties   Permissions and make sure the Execut  is ticked17:45
Solvedcoz_: ok done17:46
coz_Solved,  ok open a terminal and type      cd  Desktop     make sure  Desktop is upper case17:46
donvito2why i cant get capture from my web camera?17:46
pr0tonhello17:46
Solvedsliver@koerber-desktop:~$ cd Desktop17:46
Solvedsliver@koerber-desktop:~/Desktop$17:46
Solvedcoz_: ^^^17:46
ActionParsnipdonvito2: you can with cheese17:47
pr0toni have a 64 bit system, is there any reason to prefer a 32-bit version of ubuntu over a 64-bit one17:47
pr0ton?17:47
donvito2cheese?17:47
coz_Solved,  now in that terminal type   sudo  ./trem  and hit the tab key to complete the package name17:47
Dr_Willisnikkita:  assume people on irc have short attention spans.. i have no idea what part of your thing 'dont work'17:47
Solvedcoz_: sliver@koerber-desktop:~$ cd Desktop17:47
Solvedsliver@koerber-desktop:~/Desktop$ sudo ./tremulous-1.1.0-installer.x86\(2\).run Verifying archive integrity...Error in MD5 checksums: df723fafbe14abbfbb566c0efa960b23 is different from 3659d26e57c655b11efca6331ee16e0c17:47
Solvedsliver@koerber-desktop:~/Desktop$17:47
FloodBot3Solved: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.17:47
coz_Solved,   ok let me Pm you hold on17:47
donvito2i cant get my webcam work with emesene amsn and skype17:47
Izinucspr0ton: occationally flash works better on 32.. if you need citrix the client is 32bit only17:47
ActionParsnippr0ton: 3rd party companies still support 64bit more, if you have more than 3Gb RAM then I'd suggst 64bit, or if you plan to encode video / music then 64bit helps17:47
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phreaked|terminal17:48
ActionParsnipSolved: isn't tremulous in the repos?17:48
phreakedadmin account rcr = shell17:48
warpoolhey all i just got his all installed and was talking to a friend and he had me put in a command alsamixer then something else to turn my sound off i cant remember the command and cant get my sound back on does anyone know this command?17:48
pr0tonlzinucs: works better in the sense? i already have an AMD so lower support i guess from flash17:48
phreakedphreaker x net . com phreaked,?SOUL17:48
phreakednonsense | dep17:48
phreakedphreak patch17:48
ActionParsnipSolved: tremulous 1.1.0 is in the lucid multiverse repo17:48
Dr_WillisHmm?17:48
phil_in_londonwarpool, you should just add the icon to your panel so its always there for you.17:49
phreakedterm = root shell account access17:49
MyWaydoes somebody know if the Asus Xonar DG works under ubuntu? Or any cheap soundcard with internal spdif for hdmi17:49
Izinucspr0ton: depending on the flash app it may crash.. I have a couple from work I use online and it's hit and miss17:49
phreakedssecca pro17:49
warpooli do have it there but it has the muted symbol now and i cant get it off17:49
donvito2i cant get my camera work even in cheese dont know whats the problem17:49
phreakedfc - term chik |txp name selph,SOUL17:49
phil_in_londonwarpool, then click it to open it up and uncheck the mute.17:49
ActionParsnipMyWay: if you have one now, boot to liveCD and test17:49
phreakedadmin account root shell | cit17:49
sunsonphreaked: what did you just smoke, man?17:49
Dr_Willisphreaked:  what are you doing?17:49
warpoolthere is no option for it17:49
phreakedshell access17:50
IzinucsActionParsnip: Solved has been working on this since last night.. doesn't want to install to /.. also playdeb.net has the latest version.. repos are out of date17:50
phreakedproth17:50
phreakedzero name17:50
MyWayActionParsnip: i have to buy one soundcard17:50
phreakedsero guess17:50
X-Sleepy-X!break | phreaked17:50
pr0tonlzinucs:  does installing ubuntu on a dell laptop void it's warranty?17:50
* phreaked ,17:50
phreakedoleik iwkqu!17:50
* phreaked oeil oelo icix17:50
FloodBot3phreaked: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.17:50
Dr_Willispr0ton:  i cant see why it would.17:50
* phreaked cxp city listen.di.fm/public5/trance.asx17:50
* sunson was just waiting for FloodBot3 to kick in...17:50
* phreaked soul server17:50
ActionParsnipIzinucs: the file Solved is using is tremulous-1.1.0-installer.x86.run   if you run: apt-cache policy tremulous , you will see it's 1.1.0-4.1build1 0   so the .run file is out of date too?17:51
* phreaked cxpWORLD.SOUL ADMin17:51
Dr_Willispr0ton:  but if you need to send it back.. you may need to reinstall windows..  I alwasy buy a 2nd hd for the laptops to keep the 'windows' hd  untouched.17:51
Xhudyo17:51
Izinucspr0ton: first letter of the nick is a capital i .. and I'm not sure about the warranty thing on dell's.. they did/use to sell lappy's with ubuntu preinstalled..17:51
* phreaked phreak city pro x lopht17:51
phil_in_londonwarpool, when you open that icon do you have tabs in it, one of them saying Hardware?17:51
phreakedlopht=cin17:51
xanguapr0ton: no hardware warranty,if you leave ubuntu as th only OS yes for software warranty17:51
pr0tonIzinucs: yeah true17:51
ActionParsnipphreaked: if you want a "root shell" just run: sudo -i17:51
* phreaked nice kind error message17:51
pmjphi17:51
pr0tonxangua: i didnt get you ?17:51
X-Sleepy-X!enter | phreaked17:51
ubottuphreaked: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!17:51
pr0tonxangua: means i only have hardware warranty?17:51
pmjphow are you guys17:52
jellingtondoes anyone know why messaging pop ups have such a huge space between the panel and them? is it hardcoded or something. the volume status appears in the right place.17:52
pr0tonxangua: that works pretty well for me, if it's ttrue17:52
Dr_WillisSoftware warrenty? :) ive never even heard of that.17:52
GreGhi. can someone please give me the opendns server IPs17:52
warpoolwhen i open it is a small box has no tabs. i may have the wrong one open this one says KMix17:52
pr0tonDr_Willis: needed for those who use windows :P17:52
phreakedf+17:52
X-Sleepy-XGreG: 208.67.222.222, 208.67.220.22017:52
Dr_Willispr0ton:  and 'virus insurance' ?17:52
phreakedadmin account = not caught17:52
GreGty17:52
ActionParsnipGreG: https://store.opendns.com/setup/operatingsystem/ubuntu17:52
phil_in_londonwarpool, do a right click on the top middle of your screen, then click Add to Panel, look for a guy that looks like a Speaker, add him.17:52
* phreaked cuaght | pro17:52
Dr_WillisOk.. perhaps its time someone did somthing about phreaked ...17:52
IzinucsActionParsnip: I guess it's the latest stable.. there is a 1.2 beta out17:52
phreaked090909.999099990917:52
pr0tonDr_Willis: on an annual basis, but it only covers a limited bunch of clauses :P17:53
* phreaked 4475474,449595555,417:53
JDuke128hi , i m searching for code CPRM protection copying in C/C++ or any other language , i searched google but no result.Someone know about CPRM protection coding or CPRM ?17:53
phreakedthen that17:53
donvito2i cant get my camera work even in cheese dont know whats the problem17:53
warpoolok i got the the box with the 2 tabs 1 being general 1 being hardware17:53
ActionParsnipIzinucs: the user is trying to install the stable, which is in the repo17:53
* phreaked error me account17:53
phreaked|phre17:53
TDJACRHow can I back up my keyring?17:53
* phreaked +contra17:53
IzinucsActionParsnip: usually the repos are out of date for games.. but he did download direct17:53
phil_in_londonwarpool, get into hardware, maybe that other guy got you to set hardware to Off or None.17:53
Dr_Willisdonvito2:  not all web cams are supported.. try using it with vlc perhaps?  check teh forums for your exact make of webcam.17:53
ActionParsnipphreaked: do you have an ubuntu question?17:53
* phreaked telnet sesion = now17:53
* phreaked pro crate17:53
pr0tonxangua: does it void warranty or not ?17:53
* phreaked scat17:53
IzinucsActionParsnip: I agree.. installing from the repo is much easier17:53
* phreaked phlue17:54
xanguapr0ton: only if you fight for your rights17:54
ActionParsnip!ops | phreaked spamming17:54
ubottuphreaked spamming: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) -  elky, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, jpds, gnomefreak, bazhang, jussi, Flannel, ikonia, maco, h00k, IdleOne, or nhandler!17:54
phreakedprocrate17:54
pr0tonxangua: thanks. will do17:54
* phreaked <- pro17:54
warpoolits on auto detect and nothing is checked off17:54
* phreaked = nes17:54
* phreaked nintendo power | worship17:54
* phreaked =17:54
ActionParsnipthanks :D17:54
X-Sleepy-Xthanks17:54
phil_in_londonwarpool, well, it won't hurt you to have that up there for future, for now you could always just type alsamixer in a terminal window, make sure the Master Volume is all the way up.17:55
egoleohello anyone running perl as an apache module?17:55
guntbertphreaked: stop that please17:55
egoleoi am getting ou don't have permission to access17:55
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warpoolit is all the way up. is there a way to even just reset it back to normal17:56
warpooli just hit default and am hoping that works17:56
phil_in_londonwarpool, does it show you the proper sound card?17:56
Jamesgamer_linuxHey everyone: I'm trying to update wine. I've found instructions about "ppa" and "deb ...." are these both necessary, or has the ppa method replaced the deb method?17:56
Dr_WillisJamesgamer_linux:  ppa's use the deb package manager... so.. neither. :)17:57
magicianlordis there a way to properly set the permissions to a formatted ext sdcard that allows users to read and write to it, besides root? using chmod 777 does not accomplish this. only clicking on properties through file manager as root and changing to user as read and write group does so. what is the major malfunction here?17:57
magicianlordext217:57
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phil_in_londonmagicianlord   a+rwrwrw  blahblahlbha17:57
magicianlordwut17:57
phil_in_londonchmod a+rwrwrw that is.17:57
Dr_Willis!ppa17:57
ubottuA Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and should be used at your own risk.17:57
magicianlordchmod a+rw?17:57
magicianlordok17:57
Jamesgamer_linuxDr_Willis: Uh... so how do I update wine?17:57
phil_in_londonadd readwrite, do it 3 times so all can read write.17:57
glaucousDo anyone know a good application to monitor disk activity with?17:58
phil_in_londonchmod a+rwrwrw  myfolder17:58
shaolinuxhi all i've just added a new ethernet interface on my pc. how can i make it work using ubuntu 10.04 ?17:58
nikkitadr_willis17:58
nikkitaif i use ubntu i cant get ddos'd right17:58
sunsonglaucous: depends. for your own use: gnome system monitor or whatever; for production use, iostat, sar, collectd, etc.,17:58
phil_in_londonshaolinux, in a terminal does ifconfig show this new interface?17:58
IdleOnenikkita: not right17:59
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Dr_WillisJamesgamer_linux:  add the reposistory for the one you want to use,  like the winehq docs say.. and  install it, and it will update as their repo is updated. a PPA is a 'special' repository you can say that any person can make17:59
shaolinuxphil_in_london nope17:59
norbi905Ok so heres what I did.  I have a boot drive and another drive which is to be used as media.  I mounted the media drive by mount -a /dev/sda1 /mnt/hdd2 .  I created a folder called shared on /mnt/hdd2 .  Now how do I actually share this folder so windows can see it?  I have no gui installed on ubuntu server, so this would have to be command line :(17:59
Dr_WillisJamesgamer_linux:  theres proberly several wine 'variants' that have PPA's  but those are not the winehq wine reposiutory17:59
ActionParsnipshaolinux: if you run:   sudo lshw -C network    you should see the interfaces available, you can then websearch to find guides using the product line17:59
glaucoussunson, gnome is probably enough, but it doesn't seem like gnome system monitor can do it?17:59
sunsonnikkita: if I make myself cancer-proof, will I die if I get run over by a bus?17:59
sunsonglaucous: a lot of apps can. best is to learn to help yourself by doing apt-cache search.18:00
chibihogoshinowhile downloading i get speeds around 1.4 meg a sec.  but, to maintain that speed i have to rmmod iwlagn and then modprobe iwlagn ..18:00
nikkitai want to stop getting ddos'd thats why i downloaded ubuntu18:00
sunsonglaucous: ex: apt-cache search disk | grep -i monitor18:00
Monkey_Dustnorbi905: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba18:00
shaolinuxActionParsnip the interface doesn't appear when in run lshw18:00
IdleOnenikkita: any device connected to the internet can be disconnected. Also this really isn't an Ubuntu support issue.18:00
Dr_WillisJamesgamer_linux:  wine hq docs/download link shows the proper commands to add their ppa's  which is the same as adding their repo. :) a ppa is  personl repo. i guess is the right term.18:00
glaucoussunson, sounds good enough, will see if I find something18:01
nikkitaidleone im asking about how to get my internet to work with ubuntu...18:01
phil_in_londonshaolinux, does this device show up when doing an lspci ?18:01
greppydoesn't ppa = personal package archive?18:01
egoleo@phil_in_london where u referring to me18:01
Dr_Willis!ppa18:01
IdleOnenikkita: No, you are asking if Ubuntu will prevent you from being ddos. it won't, no OS will.18:01
phil_in_londonegoleo, I have no idea who you are so that'd be a no.18:02
nikkitaidle0ne i keep getting hit with a 6.4 mill botnet18:02
egoleook thanx18:02
nikkitaevery night so it was only a meer question18:02
shaolinuxphil_in_london nope18:02
IdleOnenikkita: then I suggest you call your ISP.18:02
phil_in_londonshaolinux, so your system isn't recognizing this device at any of the layers at all...sure its installed okay?18:03
ActionParsnipshaolinux: is the interface usb or internal?18:03
chibihogoshinois there a problem with the iwlagn driver for intel wifi cards ?18:03
sunsonnikkita: master iptables. that's the only way you can be absolutely sure.18:03
intraderIs this the appropriate place for printing problems of 10.10RC? The printer is found, and starts, but the pages output are blank. On 10.04, the same printer works fine.18:04
shaolinuxphil_in_london yes it is correctly installed... it seems ubuntu only recognizes the card plugged to the Internet during install and no other... ActionParsnip internal pci18:04
ActionParsnip!10.10 | intrader18:05
ubottuintrader: Maverick Meerkat is the codename for Ubuntu 10.10, due October 10, 2010 - Maverick Release Candidate at http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/1010 , discussion and support in #ubuntu+118:05
donvito2webcam in ubuntu sucks18:05
donvito2:)18:05
Dr_Willisdonvito2:  web cam manafactures support of linux sucks.  Is more accurate18:06
ActionParsnipshaolinux: then run:   lspci    and you should see it there, you can find guides18:06
phil_in_londonshaolinux, and what happens if you temporarily disable your current interface, and reboot...does it see it then?18:06
Dr_Willisdonvito2:  my 5 webcams i have - all have worked fine in linux..  Even my PS2 eyetoy works.18:06
ActionParsnipdonvito2: depends on the chip it uses18:06
donvito2i understand18:06
shaolinuxphil_in_london nope18:06
phil_in_londonits crap18:06
phil_in_london:)18:06
Jamesgamer_linuxDr_Willis: http://www.winehq.org/download/deb is correct link?18:06
shaolinux:)18:07
Dr_WillisMost of the linux webcam drivers in linux. I think are done by like one man, or a small group of people.18:07
donvito2were can i get list of supported webcams18:07
IdleOnemost if not all webcams under $30 work fine in linux18:07
Nattgewhow can I change my ubuntu one music account settings?18:07
Dr_WillisJamesgamer_linux:  does it mention the ppa command --> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-wine/ppa18:07
felixsullaHow do I remove a program (JungleDisk) that doesnt show up in Synaptic?18:07
Dr_Willis!webcam18:07
ubottuInstructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras18:07
Jamesgamer_linuxDr_Willis: yes18:07
Dr_Willisfelixsulla:  how did you install it..18:07
ActionParsnipdonvito2: if you check for compatibility rather than just buying the prettiest one or the cheapest onem you'll have more joy18:08
felixsullaDr_Willis: An archive, I think18:08
Dr_WillisJamesgamer_linux:  that the command i just used to set up  the winehq ppa, and am now installing wine.18:08
felixsullaThere has to be a way to uninstall a program that doesn't show up in Synaptic Package Manager?18:08
Dr_Willisfelixsulla:  if you used 'sudo make install' to install it.. then you need the source and it MIGHT have a 'sudo make uninstall' feature18:08
Dr_Willisfelixsulla:  it totally depends on the program and exactly HOW you installed it.18:08
Dr_Willisfelixsulla:  theres always the 'find the binaries it installed and delete them' way.. but thats a little annoying18:09
wildc4rdevenin' all18:09
ActionParsnipfelixsulla: depends how you installed it, if you didnt use a deb, it wont have registered in synaptic18:09
shaolinuxphil_in_london i'm thinking about reinstalling with a pc plugged to the second interface but i would really appreciate not having to do so, there should be a way to detect new hardware :|18:10
ActionParsnipfelixsulla: there is a way, we just need to know how you installed it, you have been asked but havent told us yet and we cant help you until you fill us in18:10
phil_in_londonshaolinux, there is a way, lspci is given the information from your mainboard (as long as the device is compatible).18:10
felixsullaActionParsnip: It has been about a year since I installed it, so I dont really remember.18:10
phil_in_londonshaolinux, then your ifconfig would show you an eth1 device if lspci was able to find a device.18:11
ActionParsnipfelixsulla: if you run:   dpkg -l | grep -i jung     does it show up?18:11
makis30how to create a .deb packages???18:11
phil_in_londonshaolinux, I've never had to do anything except plug the interfaces in...they have so far all been discovered and setup and working right away.18:11
guntbertNattgew: ask in #ubuntuone18:11
felixsullaActionParsnip: It doesnt.. but it starts on bootup18:11
shaolinuxphil_in_london i'll try a different pci then, thx for the info18:12
phil_in_londonshaolinux, start with lspci, if its not there, no use looking elsewhere.18:12
felixsullafind -i jung18:12
neriukashelp !! Haw to install deb files from one folder?18:13
neriukasall files18:13
makis30how to create .deb packages??18:13
Robert___Hi. Total newcomer here. Can I install both Ubuntu and Win7 on a mac with Boot Camp, or only one of them?18:13
shaolinuxphil_in_london how do i get it running once i find it listed in lspci ?18:13
IdleOne!packaging > makis3018:14
ubottumakis30, please see my private message18:14
phil_in_londonshaolinux, when you see it there check with ifconfig, if you see eth1 there, then you are ready to go. Of course you'll need to make sure that its ip address does not conflict with the ip address of your current device, but thats about all you need to manage yourself.18:14
neriukas help !! Haw to install all deb files from one folder?18:14
ManDayHello say, just a test : Do you guys also see questionmarks all over kernel.org - like HERE http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/libs/pam/Linux-PAM-html/mwg-expected-by-module-item.html <<<< ???18:15
shaolinuxphil_in_london can it be i see it with lspci and _not_ with ifconfig ?18:15
greppyneriukas: in that folder, in a terminal, for i in *.deb;do sudo dpkg -i $i;done18:15
IdleOneneriukas: cd /folder/with/debs   then dpkg -i *.deb18:15
egoleohello what does it mean by this Options ExecCGI is off in this directory: /var/www/cyborg/cgi-bin/cyborg.pl and how do i enable it18:15
pankaj_sharmacan anybody tell me how to come out of tty termianl (checked all combination f7to f8) but no result..18:15
pankaj_sharma??18:15
cool-aidedoes anyone encountered the bugs from network sharing? i just did right now.... :(18:15
neriukasthanks :)18:15
phil_in_londonshaolinux, its possible, if perhaps the drivers aren't fully compatible, but its pretty unlikely.18:16
shaolinuxphil_in_london ok thx18:16
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guntbertinstalling with a preseed file: most settings are followed by the installer - exception: the keyboard layout , where might be the error?18:16
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Dr_Willispankaj_sharma:  if X is running it should be on alt-ctrl-(f6 f7, or f8), or try the 'startx' command if X has crashed. or 'sudo service gdm restart'18:18
IdleOneguntbert: wouldn't that be another entry in the preseed file?18:19
IdleOneguntbert: #ubuntu-server might be a better place to ask18:19
MyWaydoes somebody know if the Asus Xonar DG works under ubuntu? Or any cheap soundcard with internal spdif for hdmi18:19
Dr_Willis!hwl18:19
pankaj_sharmaDr_Willis: ok, i will give a shot18:19
Dr_Willis!hardware18:19
ubottuFor lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection18:19
guntbertIdleOne: ok, will do :-)18:19
Dr_WillisMyWay:  You may want to check the 'alsa' homepage to see how well the card is supported also18:20
MyWayok Dr_Willis, thank you18:20
MyWayi see only 2 asus here, it this possible? :O https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsSoundCardsAsus18:20
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Dr_WillisMyWay:  its more of a matter of the chipset the cards are using, then the manafacturer18:21
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MyWayDr_Willis: i need one economic soundcard with spdif to connect hdmi spdif, do you know one?18:22
ActionParsnipMyWay: also make sure you have latest alsa can help18:22
ericsalut18:22
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Monkey_Dust!fr|eric18:23
ubottueric: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr, ou #ubuntu-qc. Merci.18:23
Dr_WillisMyWay:  no idea on spdif/hdmi stuff..  last card i bought was a $25 creative that worked fine.18:23
donvito2how can i see what kind of webcam i have i think it was command for terminal to see18:23
MAAAAADcan somebody recommend a high performance wireless card?18:23
MyWayok Dr_Willis18:23
ActionParsnipdonvito2: lsusb   will show the chip18:23
ActionParsnipMAAAAAD: one which supports 8.0.11n will be quick18:23
donvito2ok my webcam is Microdia  PC Camera  SN9C12018:24
donvito2how to install drivers?18:24
Guest85811I have an alfa awus036nh wife adapter and I am having trouble getting the module to load18:24
Guest85811dmesg says disagress about version sumbol module layout18:25
Guest85811google tells that it could be a problem with wrong kernel version but when I compile it says it using the one from uname -r18:25
nikkitasudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install usb-modeswitch18:25
A_New_ServerWhat's a good WYSIWYG editor for Ubuntu?18:26
nikkitathis will help18:26
A_New_Server(web design)18:26
ActionParsnipdonvito2: you need the latest gspca and blacklist sn9c12018:26
allooshhi, when I press the keys "windows + n" the screen I am working in becomes black, what is the advantage of that? or lets say what is that in general?18:26
ActionParsnipdonvito2: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeWebCams18:26
ActionParsnipMAAAAAD: intel chips are usually well supported18:26
Dr_Willisalloosh:  thats the COMPIZ key binding for 'invert colors' here it seems...18:27
ActionParsnipA_New_Server: bluefish is one I can think of18:27
Dr_Willisalloosh:  which is often used by people with low/poor vision depending on the progerams they are seeing18:27
A_New_ServerAlright, thanks :]18:27
ActionParsnipA_New_Server: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25660418:27
Guest85811@nikita was that directed at me?18:27
MAAAAADActionParsnip: I am looking for a chip that can handle a couple of wifi-clients without performance loss and at a very low latency18:27
nikkitayes guest8581118:28
Dr_Willisalloosh:  actually its the 'negative' plugin.. :)  not invert colors..18:28
pk4rAre there any plans to make Unity (Netbook interface) portable so that it can be used by non-Ubuntu distributions ? Correct me if it already is, though I've seen some posts that it's "Ubuntu only"...18:28
Guest85811@nikite: what will that do?18:28
allooshDr_Willis: well, I reached that by accident while looking for a method to play around with my display, because I am getting troubles looking at the bright screen, any advice?18:28
ActionParsnipMAAAAAD: i'd shoot for one with an N interface, its fast :)18:28
ActionParsnipMAAAAAD: i'd read a few reviews18:29
A_New_ServerAlso, how do I get my number pad to work on Ubuntu? I installed Guest Additions I'm sure but it's still not working18:29
A_New_Serveror would that be a question for a VirtualBox channel?18:29
Dr_Willisalloosh:  Theres compiz plugins to do all sorts of things.. My Nvidia card/nvidia-settings tool has color adjustments also.18:29
ActionParsnipA_New_Server: if you run: xev   then press the keys, do they make events?18:29
Dr_Willisbbl. gotta run to da store.18:29
gosHi, I want to know if using ubuntu more protection NAT router,   is enough security for a home computer?18:29
A_New_ServerOoh that's neat, yes they do18:29
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alloosh:) will check18:29
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h1tlerbrb killing jews18:30
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MenZaHey guys, I have a server which doesn't appear to be connecting to the internet. When I restart networking, it seems to accept a DHCP IP, but I can't connect out, or in through ping, ssh, or any other means. Help? :\18:30
LjLnikkita: really not funny18:30
A_New_ServerBUT, they work actually, like they work as arrows in ubuntu but not as the numbers18:30
LjLMenZa: !!18:30
MenZaLjL: ??18:30
MenZa:p18:30
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LjLboo :(18:31
LjLlhavelund: maybe it doesn't set the correct default gateway for some reason?18:31
A_New_ServerWell, sometimes they do.18:31
lhavelundLjL: Enlighten me.18:31
droopalEarlier on I asked about a problem I was having in understanding why wasnt installing, I didnt know what it was, but somebody here said that it was something to do with a server running on my pc, so I uninstalled it.18:31
ActionParsnipA_New_Server: that's good, i'd check your keyboard layout, i'd also ask in #vbox too18:32
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droopalThat is ok, but since installing 10.04 I've not been able to Network any of my computers, and was wondering does pound have anything to do with networking?18:32
* josef-fritzl brb dungeon18:32
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A_New_ServerAlright mate :]18:32
lhavelund!ops | nikkita (Repeat offense)18:32
ubottunikkita (Repeat offense): Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) -  elky, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, jpds, gnomefreak, bazhang, jussi, Flannel, ikonia, maco, h00k, IdleOne, or nhandler!18:32
LjLlhavelund: i probably have no clue... but try "route" and see if its router's IP is there18:32
lhavelundLjL: 'Gateway' is simply listed as "*"18:33
lhavelundhmm, strange. I have two lines, one ssays Destination -> 7 8.46.20.128, Gateway *, Genmask 255.255.255.19218:33
lhavelundThe other says Destionation => default, Gateway is 78.46.20.129, Genmask is 0.0.0.0.18:34
LjLlhavelund: the one saying default is the one that matters, but i don't know what the other one is18:34
droopalis there something wrong with this channel?18:34
lhavelundLjL: it's quite strange; it seems to drop network connection randomly.18:34
daniela78droopal: I don't think so!18:34
LjLlhavelund: is that your actual router anyway? it's a strange ip...18:35
lhavelundLjL: the server's in a data center.18:35
droopalI dont use iRC much, but I'm getting loads of stuff I have no idea about showing,18:35
Xtremehello18:35
lhavelundit's a hyper-v vm. the host's IP address is 78.46.20.138.18:35
guntbertdroopal: you can tell your client to hide the join/part messages18:36
LjLlhavelund: well see if you can at least ping 78.46.20.12918:36
zulaxi plugged in my guitar to my machine, looks like the input is working18:36
zulaxbut i cant hear the output18:36
droopalwould you have any idea if pound not installing would cause a problem with Network,.18:36
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droopalguntbert: how do I do that?18:36
lhavelundLjL: no issues there.18:36
guntbertdroopal: what client do you use?18:36
droopalXChat18:36
lhavelundmy VM's IP seems to be 78.46.20.184, if I am to believe byobu, though.18:36
lhavelundifconfig agrees with that, LjL  ^18:37
[thor]droopal: right-click the channel button, and select  Settings --> Hide Join/Part Messages18:37
guntbertdroopal: right click on the channel tab, select settings....18:37
droopalgot it, thank you. :)18:38
droopalwow, that has made a difference18:38
droopalnot so much green any more18:38
guntbert!enter | droopal18:39
ubottudroopal: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!18:39
Eighteensmy question is about pulseaudio, if i remove it as a start up application/driver will the system default back to the older driver that it was using before the last update, the sound was way better before i updated18:40
daniela78droopal: I like green, should be more green places on earth ;)18:40
Guest85811so I tried the usb-modeswitch and no good18:40
LjLlhavelund: i assume you have tried pinging other IPs (as opposed to hostnames)18:40
Rothamhey18:40
lhavelundLjL: I have not, but I can certainly try that.18:40
LjLlhavelund: 72.14.234.104 is google18:40
lhavelundLjL: no dice.18:40
Rothamwhat do I have to do to get "apt-get install xchat" to work18:41
Rothamits telling me "package not found"18:41
lhavelundI tried pinging this server I'm on now, and it's unreachable.18:41
guntbertdroopal: for your original question: what is "pound" ?18:41
kworkRotham apt-cache search xchat18:41
Guest85811I read the the description of the package and I don't think it was related to the issue I was having with the the module not loading18:41
LjLlhavelund: what about 78.46.20.128 (instead of 129, to see if internal addresses work, assming it's up)18:41
LjLlhavelund: and it's in the same network?18:41
Guest85811the dmesg: says disagrees about version of symbol module layout18:41
[thor]Rotham: the package is xchat-gnome18:41
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Rothamthat didnt work either18:42
lhavelundLjL: it says that's my broadcast address.18:42
guntbertRotham: don't use xchat-gnome18:42
lhavelundLjL: looks like routing is fubared or something o_O18:42
Rothami forgot Its a fresh ubuntu install and I didnt do apt-get update18:42
droopalWhen I came on here this morning, somebody said it was something to do with a server18:42
Rothamwill see if that works :P18:42
guntbert[thor]: I don't recommend that - use xchat instead18:42
droopaland to uninstal it, which I did. But I am now wondering if it might have something to do with me not being able to connect my Network18:43
LjLlhavelund: uh uhm i'm used to .255s being broadcast addresses, but what do i know :P18:43
guntbertRotham: did you enable the universe repo?18:43
Rothamhow do I do that?18:43
lhavelundLjL: presumably more than me. networking isn't my forté.18:43
RothamI think ive done it before but i forgot the command18:43
droopalI noticed it, when Installing 10.10 last night, in the installation it said pound could not be installed.18:43
lhavelund!universe | Rotham18:43
ubottuRotham: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories18:43
guntbert!repos | Rotham18:44
droopalPressing Ctrl+Alt+F8 this morning showed the error message18:44
Rothamthanks18:44
LjLlhavelund: is your own assigned ip anything similar to those 78 ones?18:44
lhavelundLjL: what, you mean the host?18:45
lhavelundLjL: the host is .138, the guest is .184 allegedly.18:45
LjLlhavelund: the server that's having trouble18:45
droopalSince Uninstalling, I no longer have that option of Ctrl+Alt+F8, its gone. Would anybody know how I can get my Network back.18:45
ActionParsnipdroopal: 10.10 is discussed in #ubuntu+118:45
LjLlhavelund: uh wait there's a VM involved?18:45
lhavelundLjL: I said at the beginning; it's a hyper-v vm :p18:46
photocopyIs it at all possible to make an hfs+ partition from ubuntu? gparted doesnt seem to support it.18:46
lhavelund!hfs | photocopy18:46
ubottuphotocopy: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE18:46
droopalbut this isnt just a 10.10 problem its a problem I have had since installing 10.04.18:46
meh3anyone here runs ubuntu as a guestos in vmware?18:46
sdahiall! what is the channel for ubuntu 10.10?18:46
lhavelund!anyone | meh318:46
ubottumeh3: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?18:46
meh3it doesnt want to go in fullscreen18:46
A_New_ServerAre there any voice changers for Linux that will work with Skype?18:46
photocopyIhavelund... no. read what i asked again18:46
lhavelund#ubuntu+1, sda :)18:46
A_New_Serverfor ubuntu*18:46
lhavelundphotocopy: yes. read up on the docs; there should be a fuse-driver you'll need to install first.18:46
thanisWine can't run installed .exe file what is the problem ?18:46
droopalI was also wondering if pound had something to do with it, as somebody on here said this morning that pound was something to do with a server18:46
pankaj_sharmaActionParsnip:#ubuntu+1 will get merge with this forum from 10/10/1018:46
photocopylhavelund: I didn't ask about reading or writing to HFS+18:47
ActionParsnipdroopal: do you md5 test the iso you downloaded?18:47
meh3im running vmware workstation and ubuntu 10.04 as a guestos, i installed the vmware tools but i cant get it to go to full screen18:47
[thor]thanis: go to #winehq to ask questions about the Wine system18:47
lhavelundphotocopy: creating one = writing.18:47
thanisthank you18:47
ActionParsnippankaj_sharma: i am aware, but its not 10/10/10 yet is it?18:47
photocopyokay, well lhavelund, I don't understand anything on that page...18:47
droopalActionParsnip: I have no idea what you are talking about. I installed it from the Update Manager18:47
pankaj_sharmaActionParsnip: yup18:47
ActionParsnippankaj_sharma: then maverick is offtopic and should be discussed there18:48
LjLlhavelund: sorry i missed it :( anyway i hardly have a clue. if that's your ip, then presumably the gateway's address is correct as well, and the fact that 128 is the broadcast is merely due to the weird netmask i assume18:48
droopalThat is how I have done it all the time.18:48
ActionParsnipdroopal: if you got the issue with lucid, when you installed lucid did you md5 test the ISO you downloaded?18:48
lhavelund!info hfsutils | photocopy (you probably want this)18:48
ubottuphotocopy: hfsutils (source: hfsutils): Tools for reading and writing Macintosh volumes. In component main, is extra. Version 3.2.6-11build3 (lucid), package size 76 kB, installed size 232 kB18:49
droopalActionParsnip: Dont know what that means, as I just said always downloaded from the Update Manager18:49
lhavelundLjL: yeah... I really don't get why it's doing this.18:49
sdaCiao a tutti, question: I have some problem with ubuntu, now I'm running 10.04, I start with the most important: My Svideo is a Ati X1700, I need it works in powersafe mode, I don't need it uses all this energy especially with battery. I know the solution is inside Kernel 2.6.35 so I put it on my pc, how can I check my Svideo status??18:49
ActionParsnipdroopal: the first install you did of ubuntu will have been done with an ISO file (or img file)18:49
girlgreekwho loves downloand movies?18:50
ActionParsnipdroopal: you can't install ubuntu by just using update manager, you need to install a miimal OS at the very least18:50
girlgreekwho loves downloand movies?18:50
droopalIt was installed for me, by somebody, I ahd no idea how to use Ubuntu then.18:50
ActionParsnip!ot  | girlgreek18:50
ubottugirlgreek: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!18:50
droopalIt worked ok with 9.04, I had no problems with the Network then.18:50
ActionParsnipdroopal: you said you got the error when you installed lucid....18:50
LjLlhavelund: well, i'd pester Seveas if i were you... and just in case you were afraid to highlight me, here's me doing it for you :D18:51
droopalAs I just said, I installed Lucid from the Update manager18:51
girlgreekwho loves parties?18:51
LjLgirlgreek: still !ot18:51
lhavelundLjL: bahaha. I'd assume dennis is having a night out with his banhammer.18:51
lhavelundor his cluebat.18:51
droopalI installed Maverick from the Update manager too.18:51
droopallast night18:51
ActionParsnipdroopal: then your OS is supported in #ubuntu+118:52
droopalok, thank you.18:52
girlgreekwhat kind of chat room is here?18:53
Rothamwhere can I find firefox's plugins folder?18:53
guntbertgirlgreek: this is the ubuntu support channel18:53
Rothamgirlgreek: this is where all the football jocks hang out.18:53
guntbertRotham: please don't18:53
Rothamsorry ;p18:54
ActionParsnipjust put him/her on ignore, problem solved18:54
guntbertActionParsnip: ??18:55
ActionParsnipguntbert: the girlgreek user, just put them on ignore18:55
dwarderhow can i make all my other ext4 partition mounted on boot, or on my login?18:56
dwarderpartitions*18:56
guntbertdwarder: you have to edit /etc/fstab appropriately18:58
cool-aideis there any application that can record videos from the web? like youtube or any site? like real player sp?18:59
dwarderguntbert: http://pastebin.com/jpG6aEyS18:59
dwarderguntbert: will sda1 mouten like i want?19:00
dwarderguntbert: will sda1 be mounted like i want?19:00
snipethere is a program i use on my windows box called video get that records from youtube19:00
Mixxitwhat's the default postgres password on karmic19:00
sdacan someone help me with my videocard power status? (ati)19:01
guntbertdwarder: for someone to help you they will need the output of mount and the content of /etc/fstab too - but I'm away for some time so better ask the channel again19:02
dwarderguntbert: ok thank you19:03
snipeis there any danger in exploring the c drive on a dual boot machine to copy docs or pics to my linux install19:03
jaxdahlwhat is the equivalent of '/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts' on ubuntu?19:03
ActionParsnipcool-aide: youtube-dl19:09
Tecanhttp://img821.imageshack.us/img821/6343/screenshotuou.png19:09
bihari_mark-i19:12
bihari_?19:12
bihari_mark-a,  hi19:12
basix-when files are installed using ubuntu software center, is there a directory that they all go into or is there a way to figure out the path?19:13
AbhiJitbasix-, /apt/cache/archieve19:13
basix-thanks AbhiJit19:13
TecanBender Dendat19:13
AbhiJit/var/cache/apt/archives basix-19:14
basix-k19:14
emanuhey, so if I want to install ubuntu on my macbook, do I need 32 or 64 bit?19:14
AbhiJitemanu, depends on your cpu19:14
emanuhow do I know?19:15
basix-this is the folder with the .deb installer package, how about after it is installed?19:15
AbhiJitemanu, http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-how-to-find-if-processor-is-64-bit-or-not/19:15
AbhiJitbasix-, each program has different path then. mostly /usr/bin or something like that19:15
AbhiJitbasix-, you can search it with whereis vim19:15
AbhiJitthat was e.g.19:15
basix-ok19:16
basix-thanks :)19:16
AbhiJitbasix-, welcome19:16
emanuAbhiJit: but I'm using osx19:16
AbhiJitemanu, :(19:16
emanuAbhiJit: uname -a gives : "Darwin mybook.local 10.4.0 Darwin Kernel Version 10.4.0: Fri Apr 23 18:28:53 PDT 2010; root:xnu-1504.7.4~1/RELEASE_I386 i386 i386"19:16
kjcoleSkype video appears to broadcast me for a few minutes, and then craps out. Unable to restart the video without rebooting.  Any ideas?  (Lucid and Skype beta.)19:16
AbhiJitemanu, do you have ubuntu live cd?19:17
bihari_emanu i think 64 bit19:17
AbhiJitemanu, try ask in #mac19:17
AbhiJitbihari_, no19:17
AbhiJitbihari_, its the os version and that too 32 bit we need cpu version19:17
AbhiJiti mean bit19:17
bihari_oic19:17
avisanyone know of a simple script to clean up desktop clutter ?19:18
plovsemanu how much memory do you have?19:18
bihari_emnu this post will help ful to you http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-579707.html19:18
AbhiJitemanu, once you figured it out and if your cpu is 64 bit then go for 64bit ubuntu19:18
avisis 64 bit adoptable ?19:18
AbhiJit!64 | avinashhm19:19
ubottuavinashhm: AMD64 and EMT64 are fully supported architectures on Ubuntu. See http://tinyurl.com/3jkole and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amd64 for more information.19:19
AbhiJit:(19:19
gk1990                          hey i face this prob now .. ubuntu power management is nt workin properly in ma laptop19:19
AbhiJitavis, ^^ see above link19:19
gk1990it shows 90% charge remainin...but in few secs it says 1% remainin n shuts down19:19
gk1990is dat prob is abt usin ubuntu in laptop ??19:19
kollapseHi. Does anyone know a program that can merge a subtitle onto a video file ?19:19
Scottie1Is there any way to remove an OS from an external hd and simply set it back to a storage device?19:19
kjcoleAnd if I start cheese, it finds the video and holds it19:20
Scottie1Hm...where's all the help today?19:20
AbhiJit!weekend19:20
ubottuIt's a weekend. Often on weekends the paid developers and a lot of the community may not be around to answer your question. Please be patient, wait longer than you normally would or try again during the working week.19:20
IzinucsScottie1: yes.. delete the partition.. remove the boot flag and reformat to the filesys type you want19:20
Scottie1lzinucs: I'm not sure how to do that, and I don't want an OS on it at all.19:21
misk21Can someone suggest me an application to associating the application for filetypes ?19:21
IzinucsScottie1: look in System>Admin>Partition manager .. that's the tool that will take care of it.19:21
bihari_kollapse, http://wiki.showmedo.com/index.php/Video_editing_Ubuntu try this19:22
Scottie1lzinucs: I don't have that.19:22
emanuplovs: 4 gigs19:22
IzinucsScottie1: then in synaptic package manager search for gparted and install that or from terminal with sudo apt-get install gparted19:22
kollapsebihari_: Thanks.19:22
minorursaI'm having trouble with a live 10.04 CD. CD is OK, but system is unable to mount filesystem.squashfs. Is this the right channel, or can someone provide the name of the right one?19:23
ActionParsnipminorursa: sure ask in here for lucid, did you check the cd for defects once booted to?19:23
li_hello19:24
ActionParsniphi li_19:24
li_I want to use this page but I cant see the chess board19:24
Scottie1lzinucs: Alright, now go look for that thing you mentioned?19:24
li_http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=159490219:24
IzinucsScottie1: yep19:24
plovsemanu you might try linux in virtualbox19:24
li_what plugin I need?19:24
minorursaOK, problem is with lucid. CD seems to be OK, since there are no messages from check, and it mounts properly and can be read by Heron.19:24
Scottie1lzinucs: Still no =/19:24
Scottie1lzinucs: Wait, I have gparted. Click that?19:25
minorursaproblem seems to be that system has mount /cdrom on  a partition of my hard drive.19:25
ActionParsnipminorursa: did you press space when you saw the stickman screen and select "Check CD for defects"?19:25
IzinucsScottie1: that might be a gnome thing.. just not showing up on the menu yet.. open a terminal and type .. gksudo gparted .. and it should load19:25
li_?19:25
D^mienHello everyone19:25
IzinucsScottie1: yes19:25
minorursaI got through the disk check.19:25
coz_li_,   you need sun java19:25
D^mienI've got a quick question, i'm trying to install xchat on my ubuntu installation19:25
ActionParsnipli_: do you have java installed?19:25
RoguishRavagercan u guys get onto ubuntu-art.org?19:25
li_ActionParsnip: yeah19:25
li_ActionParsnip: I guess19:26
Scottie1lzinucs: It's open.19:26
intraderXCHar does not have print on 9.04 will try from web19:26
D^miengetting a requires installation of untrusted packages message and details say libsexy2 tcl xchat xchat-common19:26
ActionParsnipli_: if you go to http://www.java.com/en/download/help/testvm.xml    does it say you have java?19:26
arjanhat19:26
D^mienany ideas what that means?19:26
IzinucsRoguishRavager: nope19:26
ActionParsnipminorursa: does your ram test out ok?19:27
coz_D^mien,  what are you trying to do?19:27
IzinucsScottie1: is the drive plugged in?  also my nick starts with a capital i19:27
minorursayes. And the system runs fine with Heron.19:27
D^miencoz_: install xchat on ubuntu19:27
Scottie1Izinucs: My bad. Yes, the drive is in. It's what I'm running off of.19:27
coz_D^mien,    sudo apt-get install xchat   gives you that error?19:27
D^mienthrough the ubuntu software center19:27
RoguishRavagerIzinucs: ah, good, so it's not just me19:27
RoguishRavagerthanks19:27
IzinucsScottie1: oh.. you're booted to the external drive you want to reformatt?19:28
coz_D^mien,  xchat should install with no problems  open a terminal    sudo apt-get install xchat19:28
pankaj_sharmaD^mien: there is not software center19:28
Scottie1Izinucs: Yes...is that a problem?19:28
LucasNetocomo registro meu nick?19:28
coz_D^mien,   if errors show up there they will be explained in more detail19:28
IzinucsScottie1: yes..19:28
li_ActionParsnip: it seems that I dont have java but I did apt-get install sun-java-jre19:28
ActionParsnipli_: if the page says you dont have java, you dont have it configured right19:28
LucasNetohy guys how can I register my nick nameå19:28
IzinucsScottie1: do you have windows on the primary machine?19:28
D^miendetails of error are libsexy2 tcl xchat xchat-common19:28
LucasNeto?19:28
ActionParsnipli_: what browser are you using?19:28
Scottie1Izinucs: Alright, sorry. I just didn't want to wipe my computer and didn't know how to go about doing it. No, I have Ubuntu.19:28
coz_LucasNeto,   where you type here   /msg nickserv help19:29
ActionParsnip!register |  LucasNeto19:29
ubottuLucasNeto: Information about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode19:29
LucasNetothanks coz_19:29
IzinucsScottie1: ah.. then boot to that and use gparted from there.. I have to go so others will have to help.. good luck19:29
Dinianyone know how to set to default in nautilus the "double window or F3" ?19:29
li_ActionParsnip: firefox19:29
Scottie1Izinucs: Thanks.19:29
li_ActionParsnip: with KDE19:29
intraderSome dammed update to 9.04 got rid of printing - same problem as in 10.10. Rebooting 10.1019:29
ActionParsnipli_: what arch is your Kubuntu?19:29
li_ActionParsnip: how I find out that?19:30
li_ActionParsnip: this laptop is not mine19:30
ActionParsnipli_: whats the output of: uname -m19:30
bihari_dini try this it will migght helpfull to you http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=115210119:30
bihari_dini try this it will might helpfull to you http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=115210119:30
li_ActionParsnip: i68619:30
Dinithanks bihari_19:31
li_ActionParsnip: I got this working in on my own laptop with gentoo, I dont know what is happening19:31
ActionParsnipli_: ok it's 32bit19:31
li_ActionParsnip: my gentoo is 64 bits and I have to use chromium for to use java19:31
li_ActionParsnip: get java working I mean19:31
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ActionParsnipli_: if you rn: mkdir ~/.mozilla/plugins; cd ~/.mozilla/plugins; ln -s /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libjavaplugin.so19:33
ActionParsnipli_: then rerun mozilla (close all instances) does it work?19:33
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D^mienokay, so hell with the software center, i went to xchat website and downloaded, extracted files, but now what?! any help is greatly appreciated. i'm very new to linux19:34
hidekazuubuntu is evil19:34
D^mieni agree19:34
D^mienbut its also the best platform for newbs19:34
D^mienam i correct?19:34
markvandenborreI have an audio cd drive platform19:34
li_ActionParsnip: give me the command again19:34
markvandenborrean audio cd problem even19:34
coz_D^mien,   just open a terminal19:34
li_ActionParsnip: the windows is goin so fast19:34
coz_D^mien,   sudo apt-get install xchat19:35
ActionParsnipli_: here are all the .so files with java in them on my 32bit laptop: http://pastebin.com/yySNtZeh19:35
li_ActionParsnip: forget it I got it19:35
ActionParsnipli_: make sure yours is similar19:35
markvandenborreI can't get my machine to open an audio cd19:35
markvandenborreit won't automount19:35
gsm_userhi19:35
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markvandenborredmesg says stuff about I/O errors19:36
D^miencoz_: terminal allowed me to proceed with installation without authentication which is where software center was stoping installatino19:36
ActionParsnipmarkvandenborre: you dont have to mount audio cds, you can open them from vlc under "open disk"19:36
D^mieninstalled, thanks for the help19:36
markvandenborreah, JanC19:36
coz_D^mien,  and did you use   sudo apt-get install xchat19:36
li_ActionParsnip: I did the symlik I will restart firefox19:36
D^mienyes :D19:36
coz_D^mien,  ok and did it install19:36
markvandenborreActionParsnip: thanks for your concern, but the problem is at a lower level than that19:36
D^mieni believe so19:36
LucasNetohow can I join other channel?19:36
D^mienyes it installed19:36
coz_D^mien,  ok cool   then it should be under  Applications / Internet19:36
D^mienthanks coz_19:36
markvandenborreJanC: good morning!19:37
coz_D^mien,  no problem  much easier and much nicer than software center19:37
li_ActionParsnip: it doesnt work I still cannot see the games on chessgames.com19:37
ActionParsnipli_: you just need the right file linked into that folder19:37
li_ActionParsnip: it doesnt work I still cannot see the games on chessgames.com19:38
Spti need to create a livecd of linux for formating my drives. i tried both x86 and x64 cds but they doesnt support i68619:38
karma_policei'm installing ubuntu and want to have a separate /home partition.. what are the best steps to accomplishing this?19:38
anon33_does 10.04 work well as 64-bit on the macbook pro's (5-5)?19:38
li_ActionParsnip: and the java test still says I have no java19:38
anon33_just wondering since it's an intel processor and when i downloaded it it says amd something...19:38
trond-karma_police, set it up as a separate partition during setup... it's pretty straight forward. I do the same19:38
JanCmarkvandenborre: ☺19:39
JanCgood morning too  ;)19:39
Spti need to create a livecd of linux for formating my drives. i tried both x86 and x64 cds but they doesnt support i68619:39
markvandenborreJanC: looking at an audio cd problem19:39
cypherрусские19:40
blakkheimSpt: x86 is i68619:40
* D^mien just now noticed he was given crap for using ubuntu for linix platform in #ubuntu19:40
D^miengood 1 :)19:40
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JanCmarkvandenborre: still the CD players in the school?19:40
markvandenborreit looks like I have these $!*! intel 8xx machines under control now19:40
markvandenborrewhen it comes to video19:40
Guest25176русские19:41
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anon33_does 10.04 work well as 64-bit on the macbook pro's (5-5)?19:41
FloodBot1Guest25176: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.19:41
markvandenborreI downgraded the kernel to a karmic one19:41
Sptoh, but it doesnt boot the x86 livecd19:41
markvandenborrebut the cd thingie is getting worse, or so it seems19:41
JanCmarkvandenborre: did you try installing cdrtools ?19:41
Guest25176русские19:42
markvandenborreit seems to be at the kernel level19:42
Sptthnks by the way19:42
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markvandenborreI get lots of funky stuff in dmesg19:42
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FloodBot1Guest25176: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.19:42
markvandenborreJanC: I'm on 2.6.31 right now19:43
JanCGuest25176: /join #ubuntu-ru19:43
markvandenborreand things seem to be more or less stable (at least I hope)19:43
markvandenborreI've played with 2.6.34, but that didn't seem to do a lot of good19:43
markvandenborreand now for some reason, I don't seem to have decent audio capability anymore19:44
uLinuxHow can I unmount a drive that is not mounted? I use gmount-iso19:44
uLinuxused19:44
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markvandenborrecould that have something to do with ureadahead, or other specific patches?19:44
uLinuxError mounting: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop019:44
markvandenborre(the problem looks worse than with the original lucid kernel)19:44
markvandenborreJanC: any thoughts?19:44
karma_policeok.. i sinstalled ubuntu with a separate /home partition... i reinstalled just to test and see if it worked... it shows up as a separate partition but its not the /home.. what did i do wrong?19:46
karma_police*installed19:46
markvandenborreJanC: I can coerce cdrdao into ripping it, but _very_ shaky19:46
mmaksimovHi all. Is there an easy way to edit the labels shown in the grub menu? I mean, if there are several different *buntu flavors installed including betas it is really annoying to remember which combination of kernel + /dev/sdaN means which system :(19:46
JanCmarkvandenborre: I have no idea about patches, but like I said, try cdrtools if you have cd drive trouble  ;)19:46
markvandenborrevery slow, with lots of errors19:46
cool-aideis there any new updates for 10.04?19:47
markvandenborrecould you elaborate on that again?19:47
xerox1are there any backports for tex live for 9.04? i didn't find any on packages.ubuntu.com19:47
Soupahgrheane44hos sua tays shueh19:48
karma_policei have ubuntu installed with a separate /home partition.. what steps do i need to take when doing a fresh install to keep the old /home partition?19:48
Soupahgrheane44mp ysta raegejn19:49
Soupahgrheane44bejs sk fjusm ok19:49
mmaksimovkarma_police: you have to mark that partition to mount as /home in the installer19:49
Soupahgrheane44meenak chu mas19:49
uLinuxmmaksimov: so .. he deletes the other partitions and keep /home then mount it in the installer right?19:50
Soupahgrheane44buuun ab xhhysw aah du g ski19:50
mmaksimovuLinux right19:50
karma_policeit won't let you without changing the format tho.. i'm talking about the second time.. after the /home has already been occupied.. sorry.. i'm a bit of a noob19:50
xerox1Soupahgrheane44: english??19:51
mmaksimovkarma_police before the re-install, how many partitions have you got?19:51
uLinuxI have an unmounted drive that doesnt go away.. how can I remove it ? nautilus keeps showing it i dont want to restart19:51
karma_policewhen i first installed i set / then /home then swap19:51
Soupahgrheane44noookaus aha  djd suj19:51
karma_policewhen i reinstalled i deleted the / and reinstalled and left the other two alone19:52
cool-aide!updates19:52
cool-aide!update19:52
ubottuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade19:52
androidbruce|netif i ssh into my machine and start a wget, then close the ssh term will the wget finish it's download?19:52
cool-aide!xfce19:53
ubottuXubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of !GNOME. More info at http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !Ubuntu and !Xubuntu-Channels19:53
Soupahgrheane44knsojs ajs sju eruu e jaiois19:53
mmaksimovkarma_police: great. When the installer asks you about disk layout, you have to delete then re-create "/" _and_ mark /home to mount as /home, _and_ mark swap to be used as swap19:53
cool-aide!cli19:53
ubottuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal or type in it: man intro19:53
Soupahgrheane44kajans jsb sonwi19:53
cool-aide!desktop cube19:54
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ubottuA desktop environment is what "puts the pieces of a !GUI together". The available desktop environments in Ubuntu are !GNOME (ubuntu-desktop), !KDE (kubuntu-desktop), !Xfce (xubuntu-desktop), IceWM, !Fluxbox, WindowMaker (wmaker), FVWM and others - See also !Flavors19:54
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blakkheimcool-aide: stop19:54
mmaksimovandroidbruce|net: no, you have to explicitly put wget into background19:54
pasasapHello. How can I play a videos in youtube.com on Ubuntu?19:54
cool-aide!fluxbox19:54
ubottufluxbox is a lightweight and responsive window manager for GNU/Linux. For how to set it up and more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox19:54
cool-aide!3D19:54
blakkheimcool-aide: play with the bot in PM19:55
Solvedok, so I want to stream this only mp3, and when using totem, i hear no sound. (Linux Ubuntu 10.04 LTS (32 bit))19:55
Lollipop56hi there, can I speak to an nmap expert plz?19:56
SolvedI want to stream this online mp3, and when using totem, i hear no sound. (Linux Ubuntu 10.04 LTS (32 bit))19:56
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pasasapexit19:56
pankaj_sharmaSolved: use vlc19:56
uLinuxwhat is this "isofs_fill_super: bread failed, dev=loop0, iso_blknum=16, block=3"19:57
mmaksimovHi all. Is there an easy way to edit the labels shown in the grub menu? I mean, if there are several different *buntu flavors installed including betas it is really annoying to remember which combination of kernel + /dev/sdaN means which system :(19:57
Solvedpankaj_sharma: sudo apt-get intall vlc?19:58
Chaos2358does anyone use the cowbell music organizer?19:58
uLinuxCan I do 'sudo umount /dev/loop0'19:58
mich2000mmaksimov: you need to edit the grub config file. it should be somewhere in /boot19:59
Chaos2358does anyone use the cowbell music organizer?19:59
Solvedpankaj_sharma: sudo apt-get intall vlc?19:59
Braber01um which equals operator do i use with numeric data?19:59
Chaos2358does anyone use the cowbell music organizer?20:00
Braber01!flood | Chaos235820:00
ubottuChaos2358: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.20:00
Chaos2358Braber01 dont be an ass im trying to get help20:00
blakkheim!attitude | Chaos235820:01
ubottuChaos2358: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines20:01
pankaj_sharmahahahhah20:01
Chaos2358!attitude blakkheim20:01
pankaj_sharmalol20:01
IdleOneStop please20:01
IdleOneChaos2358: I don't use it but what about it?20:01
pankaj_sharmasorry, i cant stop laughing... this is too much20:02
GneaBraber01: just an FYI, it's !repeat, not !flood20:02
IdleOnepankaj_sharma: you can control your fingers from typing nonsense20:02
Chaos2358Idleone im tyring to use it to get song info but it isnt working20:02
Solvedpankaj_sharma: how do i get vlc?20:02
Braber01Gnea Thank you20:02
pankaj_sharmaSolved: download it20:02
Chaos2358Idleone when i try it tries to connect to amazon but says it timed out20:02
Solvedfrom where20:02
Solvedrepos?20:02
pankaj_sharmayup20:03
pankaj_sharmasearch in synaptic manager20:03
IdleOneChaos2358: can you try a different server? I am not familiar with the app20:03
Solvedsudo apt-get install vlc?20:03
IdleOneSolved: yes20:03
pankaj_sharmayo20:03
Madwilli need ubuntu to stay on forever, never get any screensaver never close the screen never do anything on its own is that possible ?20:03
SolvedMadwill: yes it is20:03
Chaos2358Idleone what do you mean a differernt server? im not too familiar with ubuntu and open source stuff yet20:03
Chaos2358Madwill go into preferences and screen saver20:04
SolvedMadwill: go to preferences --> screensaver20:04
IdleOneChaos2358: Does the application allow you to chose a different download server to get the info from?20:04
Solvedbeat you to it :P20:04
Chaos2358no20:04
Chaos2358Idleone no20:04
Chaos2358it connects to soap.amazon.com20:04
Chaos2358Solved it shows mine first on my screen20:05
sms_How do I remove/hide the small circle on the left corner of each window? I did this: gconftool-2 --type string --set /apps/metacity/general/button_layout "menu:minimize,maximize,close" and the circle appeared..20:05
IdleOneChaos2358: try: man cowbell20:05
Madwilli did i went into it, uncheckd screensaver then went to power management and i've put everything to never but the thing still freeze20:05
blakkheimsms_: take off the menu part20:05
IdleOneChaos2358: might have some info20:05
Madwillmaybe its virtualbox20:05
Chaos2358Idleone thanx i hadnt thought about that20:06
sms_ahh I see20:06
mich2000ndiswrapper makes my system crash :-(20:07
sms_Well it worked but there is still empty space there, can it be removed?20:08
Chaos2358IdleOne no help there20:10
AviMarcusHi. The package manager is bugging me to update the kernal to 2.6.32-24 generic, but I've been running 2.6.34-020634-generic for months, to fix a dual-screen issue. How can I get it to stop bugging me?20:10
IdleOneChaos2358: I installed and got the same error.20:11
Chaos2358anyone know anything about cowbell music organizer20:11
blakkheimAviMarcus: apt pinning20:11
Chaos2358so it must be the app not just my system20:11
IdleOneChaos2358: yup. report a bug perhaps20:11
glaucousWouldn't it be possible to restart Ubuntu/Linux, but only to Grub? So that you don't actually restart the computer, just the OS. No need for BIOS slow startup etc.20:11
Sptevery livecd i use to format my hard disks stacks...20:11
Sptwhat should i do?20:11
Chaos2358Idleone thanx at least now i know its not just something im doing or not doing20:11
Braber01um which equals op do I use with numeric data?20:12
kwyjibo2livecd's are evil20:12
doktoreashello everybody..I am trying to build a package but I recive this error: http://dpaste.com/252105/ do you think that I miss some packages?20:12
Braber01for bash?20:12
IdleOneBraber01: #bash20:12
Sptevery livecd i use to format my hard disks stacks...20:13
Sptwhat should i do?20:13
Braber01IdleOne: that's one one of bash's equal's operators the ones I'm talking about are -eq == etc ..20:14
Chaos2358Idleone i think it may just be obsolete i went to the website and it was released in 2006 and no updates20:14
IdleOneChaos2358: very possible but the package is in the repos so someone "maintains" it20:14
Chaos2358yea good point20:15
IdleOneBraber01: you already know that #ubuntu is for Ubuntu support, not questions about bash. join #bash and ask them.20:15
Braber01IdleOne: ididn't relise that you were rediection me to a channel sorry20:16
Sptevery livecd i use to format my hard disks stacks...20:16
Sptwhat should i do?20:16
Chaos2358Idleone the issue is also in the websites bug tracker with no resolution20:16
Sptevery ubuntu or other livecd i use to format my hard disks stacks...20:16
IdleOneChaos2358: then I suggest trying some other app20:17
IdleOneSpt: stacks?20:17
Chaos2358Idleone and wow it was reported in 06 the issue seems to be that it cant function behind a proxy20:17
IdleOneChaos2358: afaik I am not behind any proxy20:18
Yeasper-a20:18
Sptevery ubuntu or other livecd i use to format my hard disks stacks to some point and its not responding...20:19
Chaos2358Idleone oh well would you by chance know of another app that will retrieve and integrate missing album and song info20:19
IdleOneChaos2358: I don't sorry20:20
IdleOneChaos2358: I am sure there are plenty in the repos, just don't know them20:20
Chaos2358Idle0ne ok i really appreciate all the help and im glad to see that there are some people here that will actually attempt to help someone as opposed to flagging them20:21
Pentium3]Hello, I am using ircp-tray to attempt to transfer files via infrared to my windows 98 laptop and it says "Unable to connect remote, Cannot assign requested address"20:21
AviMarcusblakkheim: thanks.20:21
x0rs_haWhat's the proper killall command that gives me an X as a cursor to click the app i want to close?20:22
vsMSHi. I will setup luzid on my Server. I Plan to install a softraid 1. I Found some hints tha this will be a Problem. Is it really so?20:22
toxictuxx0rs_ha, xkill20:22
x0rs_hatoxictux: thanks!20:22
IdleOneChaos2358: sure thing, sorry I wasn't more helpful20:23
williambeckerserver irc.twit.tv20:24
Pentium3]Hello, I am using ircp-tray to attempt to transfer files via infrared to my windows 98 laptop and it says "Unable to connect remote, Cannot assign requested address" could I get some help?20:24
pr0xyhi, I'm having some issues with the live CD for the Ubuntu 10.10 beta.20:26
gizolhi20:27
vsMSprOxy: Details please20:27
mich2000pr0xy: what issues??20:27
guntbert!10.10 | pr0xy20:27
ubottupr0xy: Maverick Meerkat is the codename for Ubuntu 10.10, due October 10, 2010 - Maverick Release Candidate at http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/1010 , discussion and support in #ubuntu+120:27
pr0xyI'm going to try the disk again, give me a moment.20:27
pr0xyokay, i'm starting the pc now.20:28
Pentium3]Hello, I am using ircp-tray to attempt to transfer files via infrared to my windows 98 laptop and it says "Unable to connect remote, Cannot assign requested address" could I get some help?20:30
pr0xyokay options are: "try ubuntu without installing", "install ubuntu", "Check disc for defects", "test memory", "boot from first hard disk"20:30
x0rs_haCan anyone suggest a good torrent client for ubuntu?20:31
IdleOnetransmission20:31
pr0xywhat do I need to do?20:31
owen_does anyone know why im not getting any audio? :P20:31
almoxarifedemons?20:32
IdleOneowen_: check the prefs and make sure nothing is muted20:32
chrissharp123pr0xy: if you want to try it out, pick the first option20:32
owen_tried to find drivers for my sound card but its not happening20:32
kyle____Is there an ubuntu package that includes udev rules for android devices?20:32
daniela78transmission is easy to use... x0rs_ha20:32
x0rs_hadaniela78: thanks a lot20:32
tinus_hey20:32
chrissharp123pr0xy: (that's always a good idea before installing, even if you're a veteran user)20:32
daniela78owen_, which chipset/sc do ya have20:32
jrgpI have a really weird issue. It has persisted from karmic to maverick. Every now and then (including right now) the up arrow key stops working and the only way to fix it is to restart X20:33
owen_IdleOne nothing is muted ^^20:33
pr0xychrissharp123: I know, i have the ubuntu with the 5 dots on a purple screen.20:33
Pentium3]Hello, I am using ircp-tray to attempt to transfer files via infrared to my windows 98 laptop and it says "Unable to connect remote, Cannot assign requested address" could I get some help?20:33
daniela78owen_: not that helpful, but I got my Realtek ALC650F (nforce2) never working... installed secon pci soundcard instead20:33
mich2000pr0xy:  'try ubuntu without installing' to try ubuntu, 'install ubuntu' to install to harddrive20:33
IdleOneowen_: the correct output device is selected in the sound prefs?20:34
chrissharp123pr0xy: what's your issue, then - I guess I don't understand :-)20:34
owen_yup20:34
uLinuxWhy /etc/hosts shows 127.0.1.1   myhostname? Is it normal?20:34
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pr0xyCurrently I have a really weird screen with a bunch of purple, green, pink, and black rectangles.20:35
no--namehow do i get rid of an alias that i have made with the alias command?20:35
daniela78owen_, you should also have a look at /etc/alsa-base.conf20:35
bsmith093i have some ancient compaqs presario 5400b5w lying around. is there a way to make my laptop into the keybaord and monitor of them temporarily?20:35
owen_is there a way to ping my pc spec on here?20:35
jrgpanyone know how I can fix my up arrow?20:35
daniela78I stuck at the end of here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting maybe this site helps you20:36
IdleOneowen_: lspci | grep Audio20:36
omihey :>20:36
pr0xychrissharp123: Currently I have a really weird screen with a bunch of purple, green, pink, and black rectangles. should I give a picture?20:36
ChogyDanuLinux: I think it is a shortcut, so your hostname resolves to your own computer without a dns lookup20:36
Pentium3]Hello, I am using ircp-tray to attempt to transfer files via infrared to my windows 98 laptop and it says "Unable to connect remote, Cannot assign requested address" could I get some help?20:36
vladimir_hola algien avla espanol20:37
owen_anyway i have creative sound audigy soundblaster 5.1 card if that helps20:37
chrissharp123pr0xy: no - that means that the X server is not cooperating with your video card20:37
uLinuxChogyDan: im trying to minimize the delay between login and desktop.. someone said something about hosts file20:37
IdleOne!es | vladimir_20:37
ubottuvladimir_: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.20:37
chrissharp123pr0xy: do you know what kind of card you have?20:37
daniela78owen_, see which modules are already loaded: lsmod|grep snd20:37
vladimir_algien avla espanol20:38
kaddi!es20:38
pr0xychrissharp123: it's an EVGA GT 24020:38
vladimir_solo vusco alluda20:38
vladimir_sol novato algien me alluda20:38
IdleOnevladimir_: escribe /join #ubuntu-es20:38
chrissharp123pr0xy: my other question is, have you decided for sure to install ubuntu on this computer?  If so, you can install with the alternate CD, then work out the problem (if present) after the installation20:38
vladimir_tato20:38
vladimir_graxx20:38
chrissharp123!alternate | pr0xy20:38
ubottupr0xy: The Alternate CD is a classic text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can  also be used as an upgrade CD. http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/alternative-download#alternate - See also !minimal20:38
bsmith093this is probably an very naive and stupid question, but can i just connect 2 computers together via their ethernet prots and transfer things that way?\\20:39
owen_daniela78 how do i do that sry :P20:39
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pr0xychrissharp123: it works just fine with 10.04. I have an external drive I boot 10.04 from, and I would like to run 10.10 on it.20:39
IdleOneowen_: in a terminal type: lsmod|grep snd20:40
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owen_ok20:40
halvorsIts there a bug in Maverick that the whole system starts go slow and begin lagging when the system is use for some hours (4-6 hours).20:40
uLinuxbsmith093: yes20:40
IdleOneit will give you a list of loaded modules20:40
guntbert!nickspam > isa20:40
bsmith093uLinux: just using a standard ethernet cable20:40
Pentium3]Hello, I am using ircp-tray to attempt to transfer files via infrared to my windows 98 laptop and it says "Unable to connect remote, Cannot assign requested address" could I get some help?20:40
toxictuxbsmith093, the options are endless ^^20:40
RandBrittainCan someone point me to a reliable guide on how to set up a RAM disk to keep my cache on in lucid? I'm trying to save writes on my SSD.20:40
uLinuxbsmith093: rj4520:40
daniela78owen_, look @ the site I posted above... there are several steps to configure possible misconfigurations out20:40
bsmith093uLinux: whats rj4520:41
uLinuxbsmith093: ethernet cable20:41
daniela78owen_, sry for my bad english - my natural language is german :)20:41
chrissharp123pr0xy: ah... well, 10.10 would still be expected to have issues, but there are some common problems with X and certain types of video cards (and many posts on the Ubuntu Forums about them)20:41
asigrj45 is not cable, it's only the plug of the calbe (connector)20:41
bsmith093i have a dell laptop and im trying to boot an ancient compaq (with a windows 98 lisence) using ubuntu20:41
chrissharp123pr0xy: not familiar with your type of card so not sure which specifics to advise :-)20:42
uLinuxasig: :)20:42
owen_:)20:42
pr0xychrissharp123: what should I do? wait until the 10th?20:42
uLinuxbsmith093: you just need to configure the connection. you can use network manager for that20:42
daniela78owen_, you have looked into alsamixer and unmuted everything?20:43
owen_i typed lsmod|grep Audio in terminal and i get lots of stuff in there20:43
chrissharp123pr0xy: it's safer to wait - I run it in VirtualBox because I like to see what's coming and to test things20:43
owen_yes everything is unmuted ^^20:43
prod-beginnerhi, im looking for help installing a network card in CLI.20:43
Pentium3]Hello, I am using ircp-tray to attempt to transfer files via infrared to my windows 98 laptop and it says "Unable to connect remote, Cannot assign requested address" could I get some help?20:43
chrissharp123pr0xy: in fact, I usually give a new release about a month to work out the final bugs - that may be just me20:43
jawadJolicloud rules20:43
daniela78owen_, so thats the hardware that was recognized... now you have to figure out whether the right module was loaded for your soundcard/onboard soundchip20:44
vladimir_por favol algien me diga como puedo correl juego onlines en ubuntu pero es jugado alguno pero el que kiero se me ase dificil20:44
chrissharp123!es | vladimir_20:44
ubottuvladimir_: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.20:44
owen_ok20:44
vladimir_oks20:44
asigvladimir_: try on #ubuntu-es20:44
Pentium3]Hello, I am using ircp-tray to attempt to transfer files via infrared to my windows 98 laptop and it says "Unable to connect remote, Cannot assign requested address" could I get some help?20:45
asig"correl" is not spanish, xD20:45
asigcorrel, favol xD20:45
owen_so i need Asrock chipset drivers for ubuntu? :P20:46
prod-beginnerWould someone be so kind to link me a tutorial on "Adding a network card"? its a very simple 10/100 realtek card. Thanx in advance20:46
chrissharp123prod-beginner: should just work after you physically install it20:47
Pentium3prod-beginner: I normally stick it in and its autodetected.20:47
uLinuxdoes somebody know how can I decrease delay between Login and Desktop? It takes like 10 seconds to load the desktop..20:47
chrissharp123prod-beginner: the linux kernel is pretty good with that kind of thing :-)20:47
prod-beginnerwhen i do ifconfig i have only my original eth0 and no eth120:47
toxictuxprod-beginner, there should be the network manager in your gnome panel20:47
chrissharp123prod-beginner: do you see your new card when you do lscpi ?20:47
prod-beginnerim am working on a server version of 10.0420:47
prod-beginnerchris - yes20:48
chrissharp123prod-beginner: sorry, lspci20:48
Pentium3]Hello, I am using ircp-tray to attempt to transfer files via infrared to my windows 98 laptop and it says "Unable to connect remote, Cannot assign requested address" could I get some help?20:48
prod-beginneri think so, it seems the 2 cards are there seperated by a .20:49
daniela78owen_, Asrock is not a valid chipset for sound afaik... what did ya got there: lspci -v|grep audio20:49
chrissharp123prod-beginner: it should list each card on separate lines20:50
prod-beginnerthen it is not, sorry20:50
chrissharp123prod-beginner: you can see more with lspci -v or even lspci -vv20:50
owen_owen@ubuntu:~$ lsmod|grep snd20:50
owen_snd_atiixp_modem        9103  020:50
owen_snd_via82xx_modem       8486  020:50
owen_snd_intel8x0m          10751  020:50
owen_snd_emu10k1_synth       5156  020:50
FloodBot1owen_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.20:50
owen_snd_emux_synth         31695  1 snd_emu10k1_synth20:50
prod-beginnerill check, thanx20:50
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daniela78owen_, I would suggest going through this tutorial, there is a script that puts your configuration output to a website... plse give that link to me20:51
chrissharp123prod-beginner: other test... is the card's ethernet light on when you plug in a live cord?20:51
daniela78owen_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting20:51
prod-beginnerchris- yes20:52
Pentium3]Hello, I am using ircp-tray to attempt to transfer files via infrared to my windows 98 laptop and it says "Unable to connect remote, Cannot assign requested address" could I get some help?20:52
prod-beginnerlscpi -v doesnt seem to bring up the network card20:52
chrissharp123prod-beginner: have you restarted the server since installing?  (I'm assuming you would have turned off the power, etc. :-).20:53
Pentium3I guess no one here can help me..20:53
prod-beginnerhehe ofc :) i have also restarted, sorry to seem silly but is there a way to scroll up in cli?20:53
drudgetest20:54
chrissharp123prod-beginner: not silly - shift + pgup20:54
zaxonspoxhello everyone, did someone use youtube-dl in Ubuntu?20:54
ross_how do i install divx in ubuntu20:54
daniela78prod-beginner, have you tried the -A options for lspci20:54
prod-beginnerok, there is definitely only 1 network card showing in lspci -v20:55
owen_http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=90160197a8d970ca27b54757014ff7ce1f6eddf820:55
IdleOneross_: install ubuntu-restricted-extras and that should be all you need20:55
SyKeCan anyone here help me with backtrack 4 plz? I'm currently on backtrack 4 right now. I want to format a partition in which i've installed ubuntu (ext4) inside of backtrack 4 liveCD. But backtrack 4 is not recognizing that partition. Is there a tool in backtrack 4 just like GParted that can recognize that partition and format it?20:55
IdleOne!backtrack | SyKe20:55
ubottuSyKe: There are some Ubuntu derivatives that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes. Please consult their websites for more information. Examples: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mint), LinuxMCE (support in #linuxmce), CrunchBang (support in #crunchbang), BackTrack (support in #backtrack-linux)20:55
ross_that didn't work20:56
ross_how do i install vlc?20:56
daniela78owen_, so you have a card with an emu10k chip on it, right?20:56
IdleOneross_: sudo apt-get install vlc20:56
owen_erm yes i think so lol20:56
ross_that didn't work either!!20:56
IdleOneross_: get any error?20:57
Chmarzaelo20:57
Chmarzaktos tu jest?20:57
IdleOnedidn't work is a broad statement20:57
prod-beginnerim not sure how to finish lspci -A command, do i need to know the hardware id for the card?20:57
ross_http://www.letmewatchthis.com/external.php?title=Wall+Street&url=aHR0cDovL3d3dy5kaXZ4bW92aWVzaGFyZS5jb20vZmlsZS5waHA/ZmlsbT0yNTk0&domain=divxmovieshare.com&loggedin=020:57
ross_that's what i'm trying to watch but it doesn't work20:57
drudgetest20:58
dustin_does anyone here have a fix for windows that are too tall for my desktop and wont allow me to resize their height to fit?20:58
ImkerHy! I want to lunch .exe file with wine but I cant becouse it says "The file '/home/Imker/Documents/LeagueofLegendsEUDownloader.exe' is not marked as executable.  If this was downloaded or copied form an untrusted source, it may be dangerous to run.  For more details, read about the executable bit."20:58
ChogyDandustin_: you can hold alt, and drag them for the time being20:59
zaxonspoxImerk chmod 755 on this EXE20:59
Imkerwhat do you mean.. how can i start it?21:00
chrissharp123prod-beginner: have you checked the card at the BIOS level?21:00
dustin_chogydan that gives me the temporary fix that I can close/minimize but I still cant access the lower buttons of my window21:00
chrissharp123prod-beginner: there may be some configuration that has to happen to use the other NIC21:00
prod-beginnerchris- ill go check the bios now21:01
zaxonspoxImker in commandline type: sudo chmod 755 /home/Imker/Documents/LeagueofLegendsEUDownloader.exe Press ENTER and Type your admin/root password21:01
blakkheimzaxonspox: sudo isn't needed21:02
zaxonspoxblakkheim: for chmod? i'm all the time informet, i need to have root priv. -> sudo21:02
UweBollsFunderHi21:03
blakkheimzaxonspox: the file is writable by his user since it's in his ~/Documents directory, you don't need root privs to edit it21:03
dustin_yeah if root priv wasnt needed execute priv can be added from the GUI\21:03
ChogyDandustin_: you can't drag the window up?21:03
Imkerzaxonspox: thank you very much21:03
thechitowst33l,21:03
daniela78owen_, that module was correctly loaded on your system: snd_emu10k1, please run gstreamer-properties from bash21:04
dustin_chogydan the window wont allow my to exceed the upper portion of my screen21:04
zaxonspoxwho did used program 'youtube-dl' on Ubuntu?21:04
prod-beginnerchris - i dont seem to be able to bring up any hardware info in BIOS sorry.21:04
blakkheimdustin_: touch ~/test && chmod 775 test21:05
blakkheimdustin_: does it give you a permission denied? it doesn't for me21:05
prod-beginnerthe light on the eth port shows 100Mb/s21:05
daniela78owen_, then select on the first audio tab as PLUGIN your soundcard output port and press Test21:05
ChogyDandustin_: you are holding alt and dragging, right?  I dunno, that works for me21:05
chrissharp123prod-beginner: odd... not sure what to advise then21:05
nldrudge: hi21:05
drudgehello21:06
nucc1hi guys, i've used loads of ppas, is it a wise idea to dist-upgrade to the 10.10 rc ?21:06
blakkheimnucc1: no21:06
nucc1blakkheim, so i gotta back up and do a clean install ? :(21:06
dustin_chogydan its letting me now idk maybey I wasnt wiggling my ears the first time21:06
ChogyDan:)21:07
prod-beginnerwhat are the chances it may be incompatible? there is a realtek chip on the card and thought it would have a good chance in working. Only payed £6 for it :D21:07
bob31anyone here working with non en_US or C locale? I'd like to know output of svn --version or hg --version. e.g. pt_BR. thanks21:07
blakkheimnucc1: wait until it is stable21:07
nucc1blakkheim, that is until release day? or a few weeks after?21:07
^MattWhat package has documentation on C library functions?21:07
blakkheimnucc1: i'd say a week or so after21:07
UweBollsFunderI need help setting up a Samba share (to be accessed from Windows Explorer), that requires a username and password to allow people to access the share. All my attempts so far have failed. Here is my share's configuration: http://www.pastebin.org/2858    which is clearly not working because despite forcing a valid user, I can access it without being prompted for a username or password.21:07
ChogyDannucc1: I've heard that xorg ppas can be a problem, other than that, you will probably be ok21:07
nucc1ChogyDan, i don't use xorg ppas, most of my ppas are for apps. chromium, rhythmbox, webkit21:08
behappy1Hello its possible to stream TV channel on ubuntu server ?21:08
FusionXI just  formatted my ubuntu partition to ntfs, should i also format linuxswap?21:09
ChogyDannucc1: then I think you only need to worry about adding the ppas back in after upgrade.  Most apps are fairly safe I think21:09
blakkheimFusionX: you can't install linux on ntfs21:09
nucc1ChogyDan, if i don't add them back in, i'll get dependency issues?21:09
guntbertFusionX: you should not run linux from an ntfs partition21:09
^MattFusionX: why would you do that? O_o21:10
FusionXguntbert: i formatted ubuntu21:10
FusionXguntbert: and now it is ntfs21:10
^MattFusionX: Also, no, swap partitions must be formatted as such if you want them to actually work :)21:10
FusionX^Matt: i formatted ubuntu, so should i format linuxswap too?21:10
guntbertFusionX: what are you trying to do? run windows?21:10
ChogyDannucc1: no, if you have dependency issues, you will run into trouble during the upgrade.  You only add them back for further updates21:10
owen_daniela78 my soundcard isnt listed under plugin21:11
^MattFusionX: By "formatted" do you mean "got rid of entirely"?21:11
FusionX^Matt: yes21:11
nucc1ChogyDan, ok then. thanks :)21:11
^MattFusionX: ah, then yes, feel free to nuke your swap partition21:11
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daniela78owen_, first choose ALSA/Pulseaudio - depending on what you are usin21:12
owen_ok21:12
prod-beginnerStill after restarting i have no new network adapters  showing /cry21:13
owen_testing pieline .......................................21:13
daniela78owen_, i dunno how the names of the options are in english, in german its called Ausgabe->Plugin->Gerät21:13
prod-beginnerreally lost now21:13
owen_hehehe21:13
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amarcolino_what is the supported hypervisor for ubuntu?21:13
owen_test is taking a long time21:14
daniela78owen_, so maybe its plugin(alsa, oss, pulse)->device(soundcardports)...21:14
owen_yes21:14
ThomasB2kHi, I have a n00bish question. Let's say I used GNOME terminal to open firefox. Is there any way to end the firefox process through that gnome terminal?21:15
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^MattThomasB2k: ^C21:15
^MattThomasB2k: ... which is CTRL-C21:15
ThomasB2kyes, thank you21:15
ThomasB2k^Matt, that didn't work21:16
^MattThomasB2k: blame ff :o21:16
blakkheimkillall -9 firefox-bin21:16
Dr_WillisOr else he spawned it to the background.. some how..21:16
ThomasB2kblakkheim, that would require me opening another terminal21:16
^MattThomasB2k: I think it uses a wrapper script, so you've killed that script but not FF itself. Use pkill or something21:16
blakkheimThomasB2k: what happens when you do ^C then?21:17
^MattThomasB2k: though, it did work for me21:17
* ^Matt shrugs21:17
Dr_WillisThomasB2k:  use ctrl-z then kill from the prompt. or xkill, or pkill21:17
daniela78on output test you should hear something, on my emu10k1 I set ALSA,Front. Then appears in forward the option: alsasink device="hw:0,0"  and I hear a beep while Test runs21:17
ThomasB2k^Matt, I just realized that I've changed the hotkey in gnome terminal for copy from Ctrl Shift C to Ctrl C.21:17
^Mattoops :)21:17
blakkheim:/21:17
ThomasB2kThat probably conflicted it, although I don't remember any prompt that came up.21:17
owen_still no sound :*(21:18
zaxonspoxwho used app "youtube-dl" on Ubuntu?21:18
prod-beginnersay my machine is not detecting my network card via lspci would reinstalling the OS make any difference?21:18
Dr_Willisrunning firefox, then ctrl-c here in a terminal did kill firefox just now.21:18
blakkheimprod-beginner: probably not21:18
prod-beginnerblak- didnt think so. Do i have any other options?21:19
ThomasB2kweird21:19
ThomasB2koh well, it's not a big deal21:19
blakkheimprod-beginner: it's either unsupported, a hardware failure or the kernel module isn't loaded21:19
Chozoi like kernels21:19
prod-beginneri like cookies :)21:20
^MattChozo: wanna share some popcorn? xD21:20
toxictuxi like turtles21:20
Chozohaha21:20
prod-beginnerhehe21:20
Dr_WillisBut the cake is a lie....21:20
daniela78owen_, whats greyed out in forward option field? alsasink ?21:20
Dr_Willisgood night21:20
nozeshelp http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/3294/help2e.jpg21:20
Dice-Mannozes, ?21:21
owen_alsasink device="hw:0,0"21:21
blakkheimnozes: have you tried disabling ACPI in your BIOS?21:21
nozesno speak ingles21:22
nozessorry21:22
^Mattnozes: what language?21:22
blakkheimwhat is your native?21:22
* ^Matt guesses es, or pt...21:22
nozesportugue21:23
^Matt!pt | nozes21:23
ubottunozes: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigado.21:23
nozesbrasil21:23
nozesthks21:23
^Matt:)21:23
wedwocookie for ^Matt21:23
^Matt\o/21:23
CityscapeHow do I install a graphics driver from the Nvidia website? It is a .run file and has no associated program.21:24
blakkheimCityscape: chmod +x thefile.run && sudo ./thefile.run21:24
FanshaweEvolution won't notify me of any alarms. How do I fix this?21:25
daniela78owen_, card 0: Audigy2 [SB Audigy 2 [SB0240]], device 0: emu10k1 is playback, dunno why it isn't working.21:25
owen_daniela78 is there not a remote desktop program we can use? so you can see lol21:25
daniela78owen_, have you also tried hw:0,2 ?21:26
owen_there is only hw:0,0   hw:0,3   and hw:0,421:27
daniela78owen_, okay I see, 0,2 is the fx channel21:28
daniela78owen_, I asume you already tried 0,3 and 0,421:28
Cityscapeblakkheim: it uncompresses and then says "ERROR: "You appear to be running an X server; please exit X before installing. For further details..."21:28
^MattWhat package has documentation on C library functions?21:28
owen_yes21:28
Zbysiu180hi21:29
blakkheimCityscape: so edit your DE/WM and then do it21:29
blakkheimexit*21:29
erUSUL^Matt: manpages-dev21:29
erUSUL!info manpages-dev21:29
ubottumanpages-dev (source: manpages): Manual pages about using GNU/Linux for development. In component main, is optional. Version 3.23-1 (lucid), package size 1510 kB, installed size 3192 kB21:29
^MatterUSUL: thanks!21:29
owen_when i click test is it ment to make sound?21:30
daniela78owen_, speakers are connected trough front or rear jack?21:30
Zbysiu180my cats is idiot21:30
Zbysiu180my name kupa21:30
owen_rear jack21:30
Cityscapeblakkheim: how do I do it if exit my DE? If i exit my DE I won't be able to get to the Terminal, will I?21:30
blakkheimCityscape: you will use a virtual console21:30
Cityscapeblakkheim: can you give me instructions? I never done this before.21:31
^MattWhat are these install-info warnings and how can I fix them? http://sprunge.us/WNbL21:31
blakkheimCityscape: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop21:31
blakkheimCityscape: login with console, run the command, start gdm again21:31
daniela78owen_, yes... all the time until you interrupt it21:31
daniela78owen_, you should hear the test sound :/21:32
owen_i also tried plugging into onboard jacks21:33
Cityscapeblakkheim: I did "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop" and now I just have a blank screen. What now?21:33
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blakkheimCityscape: ctrl+alt+f2 to switch to a VC21:33
dasinexsalutes21:36
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FloidDoes hibernate demand swap >= RAM?  (And which of the thousand suspend/hibernate projects is standard now, anyway?)21:37
blakkheimFloid: yes it does21:37
FloidThanks, guess I have to plan accordingly.  [Just in case I ever install more..]21:38
blakkheimi haven't used hibernate in years21:38
FloidNo UPS and it's a desktop, so it's nice to have the option if storms are coming.21:39
blakkheimoh i see21:39
sburwood.join ubuntu+121:39
erUSULFloid: yes; standar is the one in mainline kernel. the only onther competitor i know is TuxOnIce21:40
FloidI thought the one in mainline used to have a name before it was mainline, since Google for "linux hibernate" / "ubuntu hibernate" is not sufficiently enlightening.21:41
bhupihi everyone21:41
pw-toxichi, do i have to do something specific so backintime does the updates automatically?21:41
bhupiif i delete a partition ,how am i gonna recover it?21:42
prod-beginner<3 google, my n-210 is supported by linux. So i guess then im left to try and reinstall. Is there any other option i have before i go ahead and wreck hours and hours of work?21:42
daniela78owen_, sry I give up..dunno why there are such lines in your soundcardconfig: Playback 0 [0%] [-99999.99dB]21:42
n00berhello21:42
n00berplz help me21:42
flodini've been getting this error the past three days when trying to install python-dev http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/tQTUnGwp21:43
owen_its ok, thankyou daniela78 ^_^21:43
chrissharp123prod-beginner: can you try a live CD to see if it works there?21:43
TooR.cn21:43
flodinanyone else seeing it or know how long it might take before the file is replaced?21:43
n00berI downloaded ET and i'm trying to play Online21:43
n00berbut i'm unable to21:43
daniela78owen_, maybe its a prob with your AC97_codec or a Audigy2 prob, try to look in supported cards list21:43
bhupiya i tried livecd but its not of uch help21:43
n00bereverytime i try to connect and start downloading map21:43
prod-beginnerchris - good plan, top man :)21:43
n00berthe game closes21:43
blakkheimn00ber: is it a windows game or linux?21:44
bhupihow to recoer deleted partitions21:44
ChogyDanflodin: what is the full command?21:44
n00berthe linux version21:44
n00ber2.6021:44
chrissharp123bhupi: no way to recover a deleted partition, short of data recovery21:44
n00beret-linux-2.60.x86.run21:44
^MattAnyone know what these install-info warnings mean? http://sprunge.us/WNbL21:45
bhupiNO ,ACTUALLY I DELETED THE PARTITION MY ROOT PARTITION FROM WINDOWS21:45
n00beri have ubuntu 10.09 32bit ithink21:45
killownMy monitor was not detected so I have to change the video card setting on nvdia-settings every boot, there is a way to save this settings and load it with some command in rc.local?21:45
bhupiMY COMOPUTER DOES NOT START NOW21:45
DavyCaveanyone wanna assist me with a World of warcraft issue?21:45
^Mattbhupi: stop yelling21:45
bhupisorry21:45
erUSUL!wine | DavyCave21:46
ubottuDavyCave: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu21:46
daniela78bhupi: whats wrong whith your keyborad?21:46
DavyCaveroger21:46
bhupinot much21:46
bhupidaniela-will you help me21:46
daniela78bhupi: no I will go to bed now.21:47
n00berblakkheim: will u help me?21:47
bhupihallooooooooo21:47
daniela78seeya.21:47
n00berplz21:47
bhupiseeya21:47
etheretic'lo :)21:48
n00berawaiting help21:48
guntbertbhupi: thats probably more difficult than I can handle via IRC - sorry - if you *really* need it get professional help21:48
guntbert!patience | n00ber21:48
ubottun00ber: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://ubuntu.stackexchange.com21:48
flodinChogyDan: here's the full transcript including the command http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/xyQ9w0ZG21:49
LauterinoBallahanglow: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3DSN0sf9IY&feature=related21:49
Lauterino:)21:49
mapalavi_jajaja que es estoo???21:49
n00berok i'm gonna repeat it and wait, i wasn't sure if someone is trying or not.  sorry21:49
prod-beginneroff to get a chinese, ill be back to pick your brains shortly :)21:50
mapalavi_what it's x-chat??? someone cant help me :)???21:50
erUSUL!es | mapalavi_21:50
ubottumapalavi_: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.21:50
erUSUL!irc | mapalavi_21:50
ubottumapalavi_: A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines21:50
daniela78ps owen_ look at this site maybe your soundcard is not supported: http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Vendor-Creative_Labs21:50
n00berI have install et-linux-2.60.x86.run(game) I can host and play by myself, when try to join a server, the game shutdown while connecting and downloading the map.  please help me.21:51
ChogyDanflodin: it looks like you just need to wait for the repo to update21:51
eugenekorpanhello everyone21:51
n00beri have ubuntu 10.09 32bit i think21:51
ethereticLauterino: pm'ing wihtout an invitation is considered bad ircqette.21:51
n00bernow i wait21:51
flodinChogyDan: yeah, how long does that usually take? I've been waiting three days now21:51
Cityscapeblakkheim: okay I've run the command in the virtual console and accepted the lisence  agreement. now it says: " the distribution-provided pre-install script fail! Install anyway?21:51
FloidAha, name of mainline kernel suspend/hibernate is "swsusp" as opposed to "uswsusp" or TuxOnIce.21:52
bhupihi21:52
blakkheimCityscape: i'd give it a try, but i don't know if it will work for sure21:52
sark666i have a friend i set up with ubuntu a couple of years ago.  i can't even recall what version 8.04 i think.  haven't talked to him in a bit and he's trying to play a video that doesn't work in gnomeplayer or vlc, mplayer etc21:52
blakkheimsark666: can you play it on your machine?21:53
ethereticLauterino: as far as mickey$oft goes - there is no depth they won't stoop to.21:53
sark666i tried a clip and it works fine.  anyway, I just wanted to get him the latest vlc21:53
eugenekorpanI don't want to interfere your conversation but may I ask a small question?21:53
blakkheimsark666: yeah, make him upgrade21:53
sark666blakkheim, yes works fine here. his player is probably just outdated21:53
blakkheimeugenekorpan: ask away21:53
sark666that's the thing, can he now upgrade to latest ubuntu directly, or does he have to upgrad x number of times?21:54
Alyshai cant watch anything on mine wither21:54
n00ber:S21:54
Alysha*either21:54
Lauterinoetheretic; Yep, you have bugreporters that are employed by microsoft21:54
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blakkheimsark666: he can go from 8.04 to 10.0421:54
n00beri would like to add21:54
erUSULsark666: 8.04 to 10.04 is possible becouse both are LTS21:54
eugenekorpanI have just installed ubunta and cannot configure internet connection, saying cabel is unplagged, is it something wrong with the matherboard drivers?21:54
sark666well i hope it's 8.04 might be earlier but i think it's that21:54
n00beri tried the help page on ubuntu forum, didn't solve it for me21:54
brontoeeesark666, why not just upgrade the vlc?21:54
eugenekorpanI have windows on the same machine  - internet is fine21:54
erUSUL!version | sark66621:54
ubottusark666: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell - To know the available version of a package, « apt-cache policy <package> »21:54
n00beris there some sort of port i need to open?21:54
sark666yes but packages are outdated21:55
blakkheimsark666: if it's earlier than 8.04 i'd recommend a reinstall with 10.04 to be honest21:55
sark666unless there's an easy way to get latest vlc on an old ubuntu21:55
Alysha<blakkheim> I can't watch anything such as DVD's on my computer wither21:55
sark666it's the old package problem...21:55
Alysha*either21:55
blakkheimAlysha: sudo aptitude -y install ubuntu-restricted-extras21:55
sark666i don't want to get him to compile.21:55
guntbertn00ber: you need to tell your problem all in *one line* or else no one will be able to follow across a whole page21:55
n00ber:S ok21:56
sark666brontoeee, is there an easy way to get latest vlc on old ubuntu?21:56
AlyshaMy dad set the software up on my computer21:56
Alyshaand he didn't know why the problem was21:56
blakkheimAlysha: open a terminal and run that command i just sent21:56
keshavMy question: I want to learn Linux Server administration. Now I have some experience in linux commandline, very little to be honest. Thing is, I'm interested in server management and not desktop. But should I learn all the commandline stuff first? I mean, should I spend more time on the desktop to learn the commandline before I venture into servers?21:56
AlyshaWhich command?21:56
blakkheimAlysha: sudo aptitude -y install ubuntu-restricted-extras21:57
david_I changed the height of my gnome panel and now it is two colors and the transparency effects dont work on many of the applets can anyone hlep?21:57
david_*help21:57
blakkheimkeshav: you definitely want commandline knowledge for server admin21:57
Alyshaok thanks21:57
n00berI have install et-linux-2.60.x86.run(game) I can host and play by myself, when try to join a server, the game shutdown while connecting and downloading the map.  I tried the help page on ubuntu forum, didn't work. sometimes i get stuck on downloading and most of the time just shutdown. do i need to open some sort of a port or something?21:57
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keshavblakkheim: I think so too. Thanks!21:58
AlyshaIt is telling me it si already installed21:58
jigalhow can i find out in which directory pear is installed?21:58
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Alysha<blakkheim> It is telling me it si already installed21:59
n00berif someone is looking to help me plz let me know.21:59
tomoyuki28jpHow can I control brightness from command line? I am willing to install new package.21:59
bobstrokeshav:  you can learn a lot on a desktop using command line that will apply to server, and most of what you can run on server can run on workstation anyhow. just as long as you're learning, you should do fine.21:59
brontoeeekeshav, desktop will just force you into easy ways, so better just setup a remote test box and ssh away21:59
n00beri wonder if the nick i used makes people fear to help me.  lol22:00
keshavsounds like a good idea. brontoeee22:01
keshavbobstro Thanks!22:01
Alysha@blakkheim??22:01
n00berok let's try again22:01
n00berI have install et-linux-2.60.x86.run(game) I can host and play by myself, when try to join a server, the game shutdown while connecting and downloading the map.  I tried the help page on ubuntu forum, didn't work. sometimes i get stuck on downloading and most of the time just shutdown. do i need to open some sort of a port or something?  please help.  if you are going to help plz let me know.22:01
gmachine_24Hi - I need to find the latest versions of mono or at least packages such as libglib because I am having problems installing a program because it "depends on libglib2.0-cil (>= 2.12.7); however: Version of libglib2.0-cil on system is 2.12.1-2"22:01
Lunar_Lampkeshav: the server and desktop are really no different.  Basically, a ubuntu desktop is a ubuntu server with a GUI running on it, and a few desktop apps for things like playing your music.22:02
guntbertn00ber: you need to be patient :-) there is not a ready answer to every problem22:02
wedwon00ber, everyone here is a volunteer - if they don't know how to help you they can't. Be patient and sooner r later someone who can will join the channel22:02
n00berok, ty at least now i know someone is looking for me22:02
n00bersorry for causing trouble22:02
n00beri just wasn't sure if i was waiting for nothing or not22:03
bazhangn00ber, what is the games full name22:03
Dice-Manhi22:03
n00berenemy territory22:03
jigalhow can i find out in which directory pear is installed?22:03
Dice-Mani have troubles to make my webcam run on the website tinychat22:03
gmachine_24pearl?22:03
keshavLunar_Lamp, on desktop, don't you 'have to install' applications that may be required by the server?22:03
Lunar_Lampkeshav: there are some applications that are installed on the server by default that aren't on the desktop by default, but they're fundamentally the same systems.22:04
bazhanghttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnemyTerritory  n00ber have a read22:04
keshavLunar_Lamp, ah, alright!22:04
bobstrokeshav:  biggest difference i can think of between server and workstation is the networking configuration. if you install a gui on server, you won't be able to get the compiz effects. other than that, they're pretty much the same.22:04
bobstrokeshav:  server just has less 'stuff' installed by default.22:05
keshavbobstro I see. Compiz is funny. :P22:05
ActionParsnipDice-Man: does it work in cheese?22:05
n00berbazhang, i spent almost 2 hours on that page last night, with no luck22:05
Dice-ManActionParsnip, yep22:05
guntbert!server | keshav read for yourself :)22:05
ubottukeshav read for yourself :): Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is !Lucid (Lucid Lynx 10.04) - More info: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition - Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/ - Support in #ubuntu-server22:05
andybikerhi all!22:06
Dice-ManActionParsnip, my webcam is detected natively22:06
andybikerAny linux users in Berkshire UK? See andybiker.blogspot.com and come along to the users group meeting on 13 October!22:06
bazhangn00ber, then detail, on a single line, exactly what part you could not do.22:06
Dice-Mani think it's a problem of permission22:06
djbeenieis gnome-shell removed from 10.4?22:06
guntbert!ot | andybiker22:06
ubottuandybiker: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!22:06
bazhangandybiker, dont paste here22:06
ActionParsnipDice-Man: does it work in other sites?22:06
Dice-ManActionParsnip, yes22:06
guntbertandybiker: and don't ever advertise here please22:06
andybikerI'm advertising Linux, what's the prob!22:06
Dice-ManActionParsnip, i tryied under windows22:06
Dice-Manit run22:07
n00berestablishing connection with a server and downloading the map22:07
bazhangandybiker, try your loco22:07
ActionParsnipDice-Man: then i'd contact the site, or try a different browser22:07
Dice-Mani use firfefox22:07
bazhangandybiker, it has nothing to do with ubuntu technical support22:07
andybikermaybe they'll get some there.22:07
ActionParsnipDice-Man: try chrome or opera or something else22:07
bazhang!loco > andybiker22:08
ubottuandybiker, please see my private message22:08
n00berbazhang : establishing connection with a server and downloading the map, also i don't see anything in hardware drivers22:08
jigalhow can i find out in which directory pear is installed?22:08
bazhangn00ber, do you have a system capable of running it?22:08
n00beryes, my mother board is 32bit i believe, is the game any higher?22:10
bazhangn00ber, the video card?22:10
AlyshaWho her like JLS?22:11
bazhangAlysha, what is that22:11
Alyshabazhang: it is a band22:11
marek_hello boys22:11
rovarl22:11
Alyshabazhang: as in musical22:11
bazhangAlysha, its completely offtopic here22:11
marek_whats up??22:12
Alyshabazhang: I do apologise but I can't find the chat22:12
guntbertmarek_: hi,  Do you have an ubuntu support question?22:12
bazhangAlysha, try #defocus or #ubuntu-offtopic then22:12
n00berbazhang,  radeon x800 pro22:12
undecimIs there some way to let me unlock screensaver when a specific thumb drive is inserted?22:12
Alyshabazhang: Thanks :)22:12
sedekiI'm running wubi but it's downloading "amd64" which is a bit strange22:12
sedekisince I don't have a 64 system22:13
bazhangn00ber, and where is the map hosted22:13
* nanomachine is away: I'm busy22:16
bazhangnanomachine, disable that22:16
* nanomachine is back (gone 00:00:03)22:17
ActionParsnip!away > nanomachine22:18
ubottunanomachine, please see my private message22:18
PandaBeerHey I'm trying to link something on my other hard drive to my current one but it keeps linking onto the other directory. THe command I'm using is "ln -s /home/Fred /media/disk/home/OldFred"22:18
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PandaBeerI keep getting "Fred" linked in "OldFred"22:18
n00ber:S22:19
ActionParsnipPandaBeer: ln -s /path/to/source /path/to/dest22:19
n00berwhat in the world.   all of a sudden my skype isn't working22:20
ActionParsnipPandaBeer: your command will make a symlink of Oldfred in /media/disk/home/OldFred   if OldFred is a folder, the link will be made in the folder22:20
n00beris it possible to get hacked while being on this chat server?22:20
pankaj_sharman00ber: trash that22:20
n00berlol22:20
PandaBeerActionParsnip: ln: target `/home/Fred/' is not a directory: No such file or directory22:20
n00berand how would i talk to people over sees?22:20
ActionParsnipPandaBeer: i find it easier to cd to the containing folder and just run: ln -s /path/to/folder22:20
n00berseas*22:20
kobe_bonjour22:21
n00berpankaj_sharma, do you have something better?22:21
sedekibonjour22:21
PandaBeerActionParsnip: That worked :p22:21
sedekiou bon soir22:21
ownerI'm having some problems with a Windows7 and Ubuntu installing a dual boot system22:21
PandaBeerActionParsnip: Just was in /home and remobed the last part. Thanks22:21
kobe_:p22:21
Braber01!ubuntu fr | kobe_22:21
ActionParsnipPandaBeer: glad you got the gold :)22:21
kobe_english only, here ?22:22
ActionParsnip!details | owner22:22
ubottuowner: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."22:22
PandaBeerActionParsnip: Now how do I log out... :p22:22
ActionParsnip!english | kobe22:22
ubottukobe: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList22:22
bazhangkobe_, yes22:22
X-Sleepy-X!fr | kobe_22:22
ubottukobe_: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr, ou #ubuntu-qc. Merci.22:22
kobe_thx22:22
n00berbazhang sorry i lost connecting22:23
EstragonOMG ctrl + alt + d doesnt work anymore on maverick Oo22:23
n00beri believe radeo x800 is supported by the game22:23
ownerThe notebook came with Win7 installed I'm trying to install Ubuntu 10.0422:23
ActionParsnip!maverick | Estragon22:23
ubottuEstragon: Maverick Meerkat is the codename for Ubuntu 10.10, due October 10, 2010 - Maverick Release Candidate at http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/1010 , discussion and support in #ubuntu+122:23
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ActionParsnipowner: win7 can resize its own partitions to make space22:23
n00berbazhang, i believe radeon x800 is supported by the game, because i could play by myself just fine22:24
isionousI can't seem to get this urbanterror package out of my repository even though I commented out the getdeb line in /etc/apt/sources.list and told synaptic to reload22:24
isionousis there some special apt-cache command I need to run?22:24
ActionParsnipisionous: sudo apt-get update22:25
rizzuhUse aptitude guys...22:25
ActionParsniprizzuh: both are fine22:25
isionous ActionParsnip: still there22:25
antibodyHi i'm trying to remove a broken package..but I dunno how I did a sudo dpkg --remove --force all nvidia-bl-dkms22:26
ActionParsnipisionous: sup22:26
antibodybut....22:26
isionousActionParsnip, is there more info I can give you?22:26
antibodydoesn't work22:26
sedekiis there a good office program? i mean, open office really suck. and so does koffice22:26
antibodyError! There are no instances of module: nvidia_bl22:26
sedekiand is it possbile to view pdfs in emacs in a terminal window?22:26
ActionParsnipsedeki: google docs or abiword / gnumeric22:26
quintalegdocs rules :)22:26
rizzuhsedeki, OO is the only good one...22:26
sedekigdocs does not rule22:26
blackhawk0042So my ubuntu keeps crashing and I dont know why or where to start looking, can anyone help?22:26
quintalewhy?22:26
ActionParsnipisionous: what is the output of: apt-cache search urban22:27
sedekithere is no good one22:27
rizzuhsedeki, run MS Office in a VM then.22:27
rizzuhsedeki, nothing native that better than OO.22:27
ActionParsnipsedeki: theres zoho too22:27
isionousActionParsnip, I got 4 packages: gramofile, grzrt, python-nodebox-web, and r-cran-domc22:27
ActionParsnipisionous: then it's not there unless its known as something else22:28
ownerThe harddrive that came with the notebook, (Ubuntu shows) that there are two loaders installed Windows7 loader and Vista loader22:28
coolguy_what is the difference between 10.10 and 10.0422:28
isionousActionParsnip, the urbanterror package shows up in synaptic package manager22:28
blackhawk0042So my ubuntu keeps crashing and I dont know why or where to start looking, can anyone help?22:28
ownerAre both 'loaders' needed?22:28
ActionParsnipisionous: then remove it if you don't want it22:28
ActionParsnipcoolguy_: http://techie-buzz.com/foss/whats-new-in-ubuntu-10-10-maverick-meerkat-alpha-3.html22:29
coolguy_thanks man22:29
isionousActionParsnip, oh, weird...it's not installed but there is an option to remove it22:29
isionousActionParsnip, I feel a bit silly22:29
ActionParsnipisionous: what is the output of:  dpkg -l | grep -i urban22:29
SkaperenI do not have anywhere I can install Ubuntu 10.10 candidate, yet, but I am wondering if someone who did, has tested the 256 heads bug to see if it was fixed22:30
megadevilhello22:30
isionousActionParsnip, and now it is gone; I think you solved it; many thanks22:30
ActionParsnipisionous: no worries dude :)22:30
isionousActionParsnip, that command produces no output22:30
ActionParsnipisionous: then no package in your system contains the word urban or any mix of case22:30
blackhawk0042So my ubuntu is starting to crash, but I dont know why22:30
megadevildoes anyone know if there is any boot parameter to disable 32 / 64 bit check ?22:30
ActionParsnip!maverick | Skaperen22:30
ubottuSkaperen: Maverick Meerkat is the codename for Ubuntu 10.10, due October 10, 2010 - Maverick Release Candidate at http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/1010 , discussion and support in #ubuntu+122:30
blackhawk0042Things just stop responding22:31
SkaperenActionParsnip: OK, t/y22:31
isionousActionParsnip, ...so why was it that urbanterror was showing up in synaptic but not through apt-cache?22:31
randomOfAmberhow do I enable a wireless device from the command line? lshw -C netowrk shows it (*-network:1 DISABLED)22:31
ActionParsnipisionous: not sure, ive not used synaptic since I learned apt-get22:32
isionousActionParsnip, yeah, synaptic is kind of slow22:32
bobstrorandomOfAmber:  are you using wep or wpa?22:33
ActionParsnipisionous: i can search with apt-cache and install with apt-get :)22:33
MiMa1l22:33
blackhawk0042my task bar just crashed can anyone help? All I have open is this window22:33
isionousActionParsnip, right, but I do like synaptic's ease of use and that it's kind of a one stop to search, install, and look at package properties22:33
eugenekorpandoesn anybody know where can I download drivers for matherboard?22:34
ActionParsnip!resetpanel | blackhawk004222:34
ubottublackhawk0042: To reset the panel to defaults, type this in a !terminal: « gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel »22:34
isionousActionParsnip, I do want to use the cli tools more and synaptic less as time goes by though22:34
randomOfAmberbobstro: wpa22:34
ActionParsnipisionous: cli is very powerful if you can harness it :)22:34
blackhawk0042whats the short cut for the terminal if my task bar is gone?22:34
bobstrorandomOfAmber:  you will want to look into iwconfig and wpa_supplicant22:34
bobstrorandomOfAmber:  you may end up doing it differently than the network manager approach.22:35
ganew to ubuntu...but anyone know why mutt times out when trying to send, but can connect to view inbox etc?22:35
bobstrorandomOfAmber:  is it not recognized ?22:35
lanoxxis there an easy way to configure per user language settings in ubuntu22:35
SimboLhello all :D.22:36
lanoxxif possible even do this at user creation time22:36
arrrghhhtrying to add an init.d script, and i have the script in there... i can read it, all the permissions look correct.  but when i try to execute it, I get "No such file or directory" - what is going on!?!22:36
isionousActionParsnip, yeah, you're preaching to the choir; I don't know what I'd do without gnu screen (well, I'd probably use tmux...)22:37
isionousActionParsnip, thanks again22:37
ActionParsnipnp bro22:37
kobe_bye22:37
arrrghhhprobably the most maddening thing is i can autocomplete it with tab, so i KNOW it's there.22:37
randomOfAmberbobstro: it says it's just disabled22:38
randomOfAmberbobstro: ifconfig eth1 up :) did the tric22:38
randomOfAmbertrick*22:38
ownerwhen installing dual windows7 and ubuntu, no option for "Install them side by side choosing between them each startup" why?22:38
antibodyHi my packages are broken, what can I do to solve this? http://pastebin.com/XX1FQUfW I can't install anything else now22:39
bobstrorandomOfAmber:  is it showing in network manager now?22:39
ikoniaowner: you have no unalloctaed space on the drive22:39
randomOfAmberbobstro: in nm-applet? I'm not running a gui at the moment22:40
smsI'm running foobar2k on WINE, and the visualizations are a bit laggy.. Is this something that could be fixed?22:40
bobstrorandomOfAmber:  ok. if you intend to, you'll probably want it showing in applet. if not, you can configure it in /etc/network/interfaces.22:40
ActionParsnipsms: i'd check the appdb and ask in #winehq22:40
bobstrorandomOfAmber:  so it connected via wpa?22:41
pierpaolofilm Disney22:41
bobstrorandomOfAmber:  you must have had it configured previously, no?22:41
ownerI created two partitions one 512k for the root and on partition 100gb for ubuntu22:41
smsok I'll do that, thanks22:41
randomOfAmberbobstro: no, so I should configure it in /etc/network/interfaces?22:42
bobstrorandomOfAmber:  well how do you intent to use it most of the time? the network manager/applet is convenient from the gui.22:42
bobstrorandomOfAmber:  also, did wpa work?22:43
owneryes the 100gb was unalloctaed22:43
antibody:s Is there anyway of remove a package from the "package" index file..like if it wasn't installed?22:43
antibodydpkg apt-get ....synaptic..I can't remove a stupid broken package even with dpkg --force-all --remove...22:43
randomOfAmberbobstro: it said it did... but I'm not connected.  and yes, I will be using this for my main connection22:43
antibodyHelp!!22:43
wolfric_anyway to delete all files recursively without deleting the containing directories22:44
wolfric_i'm trying to clean all the log files22:44
bobstrorandomOfAmber:  will you be using the gui normally?22:44
randomOfAmberbobstro: no22:44
erUSULwolfric_: find dir/ -type f -exec echo rm {} +22:44
erUSULwolfric_: when you are satisfied with the output drop the echo22:44
bobstrorandomOfAmber:  i found it would say it connected, but only as peer-to-peer. i had to futz with wpa_supplicant to get a headless machine setup.22:44
Hydroziimy computer is 114 c22:45
Hydroziiis that bad?22:45
froud letmein222:45
ActionParsnipowner: win7 can resize its own partitions. I suggest you use that after backing up what you have22:45
brontoeeeerUSUL, echo command is simulation?22:45
bobstroHydrozii:  if it really is, i'd check out why22:45
meh3would changing the hostname of my ubuntu cause any trouble?22:45
meh3problems22:45
Hydroziiit really is and its because i was playing minecraft22:45
erUSULbrontoeee: no it echos (print to screen) what you pass to it.22:46
bobstroHydrozii:  check for dead fans and such22:46
ActionParsnipmeh3: no as long as you change /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname at the same time22:46
Hydroziias soon as i  close minecraft it starts cooling down to like 70s22:46
Hydroziii can hear my fan working...22:46
lilpodI installed a few K educational apps and now it looks like I am using K instead of Gnome !?!22:46
meh3ActionParsnip, do i need to do anything after the change?22:46
brontoeeeerUSUL, right so rm is just a string in this case right?22:46
bobstroHydrozii:  check for clogged cpu heatsink and such22:46
ActionParsnipmeh3: give it a reboot22:46
randomOfAmberbobstro: what should I do?  I'm using -ieth1 and -c/my/conf/file now as the only args to wpa_supplicant22:47
erUSULbrontoeee: yes22:47
bobstroHydrozii:  also, be sure it's reading celsius and not farenheit22:47
Hydroziii took my labtop apart after a year of use about a month ago and cleaned it but it was in pretty good shape22:47
bobo123anyone, knows things about vlc here? (I asked in #videolan but noone seems to be awake there): I have an avi here with multiple subtitles included in it, vlc do lists the 3 subtitles in its video/subtitle-menu, but when I select any of them, no text is rendered. I think I viewed it with in ubuntu7.04 three years ago or so (with working subtitle) I'm not 100% sure though, it could have been in MediaPlayerClassic back when I still used Windows. No22:47
bobstrorandomOfAmber:  there are some good howtos. iirc, it was a combination of /etc/network/interfaces and using pre and post-up scripts to load wpa_supplicant.22:47
randomOfAmberbobstro: now it says 'reauth' like it reconnected.  but 'ping google.com' still doesn't do anything22:47
Hydroziiand its definitly celsius22:47
ellion1how can I see the list of samba users in my pc ?22:48
bobstrorandomOfAmber:  did you set up wpa_supplicant?22:48
ownerI used win7 to partitions my space.  end result was: System, C:\ current windows7, 512k for the root (for ubuntu), and 100gb unallocated.22:48
ikoniabobstro: you may want to contact the vlc support resources22:48
delinquentmeOMGZ missed you gusy!!22:48
ikoniaowner: if you have unallocated space the ubuntu installer should allow you to install dual boot22:49
bobstroowner:  512 *K*?22:49
bobo123perhaps MB :-)22:49
randomOfAmberbobstro: I used wpa_passphrase to make /etc/wpa_suppllicant/wpa_supplicant.conf22:49
ellion1how can I see the list of samba users in my pc ?22:50
bobstrorandomOfAmber:  you have ssid etc in there?22:50
bobstrorandomOfAmber:  i also found using text of psk rather than the wpa_passphrase worked. no idea why tho.22:51
bobstrorandomOfAmber:  i set ssid, scan_ssid, key_mgmt and psk parameters.22:51
randomOfAmberbobstro: everything wpa_passphrase generated, (ssid and psk)22:51
bobstrorandomOfAmber:  try cleartext passphrase in quotes. mine takes a while to successfully connect. you may need to kill old wpa supplicants.22:52
ska_HOw do I boot into the Grub menu? ESC doesnt work22:52
bobo123ellion1: perhaps system-config-samba show that?22:52
ActionParsnipska_: hold shift at boot22:53
erUSULska_: try "shift" in grub222:53
randomOfAmberjust "cleartext passphrase" from the cli?22:53
ownertrying again with out the 512k ..  booting off flashdrive to ubuntu22:54
zopenkeOnUbuntuhello22:54
bobstrorandomOfAmber:  here's what my interfaces wound up looking like - http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/XQrj2gAT22:54
ellion1bobo123, thank you ! I'll try it !22:54
bobo123ellion1: if not, iftop should list all computers that communicate with your, including with samba22:54
quark_hey22:55
quark_some one there?22:55
bobstrorandomOfAmber:  here's my wpa_supplicant config file - http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/DRLyLQhx22:55
quark_can ear me?22:56
bobstroquark_:  i assure you, yes22:56
quark_new to IRC, can you ear me?22:56
bobstrorandomOfAmber:  mine's a removable usb wlan adapter, so you may not want hotplug.22:56
* bobo123 is earing quark_ :-)22:57
quark_thx bobo12322:57
bobstroquark_:  you want a wet willie?22:57
ellion1bobo123, thank you it works !22:57
ownerduring install, after keyboard layout, still no option for "install them side by side".  why?  I have 100gb unallocated space displayed (according to win7)22:57
randomOfAmberbobstro: yeah I don't know.  I'll have to read up on network/interfaces and wpa_supplicant22:57
rovarblarg22:57
rovarapparently wireshark now hangs my leenucks box22:57
bobstrorandomOfAmber:  as i said, network manager is more 'friendly' but this will work.22:57
shaiHi :) How can I disable gnome (ie. X) from starting after boot? In debian I used to edit /etc/inittab and change the runlevel, but this doesn't work for Ubuntu 10.04 ...22:58
randomOfAmberbobstro: yeah, I have to go now.  I'll hopefull be back here tonight and finish this up.  thanks for the help so far!22:58
ActionParsnipshai: edit the boot options and add: single    then run: sudo update-grub22:59
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erUSULshai: appen textmode to kernel options in /etc/default/grub then run « sudo update-grub »22:59
ActionParsnipshai: sorry, it's: text23:00
ActionParsnipshai: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+question/12759523:00
ActionParsnipsolved by yours truly 8-)23:00
shaiActionParsnip, erUSUL: thanks guys... worked.23:04
ownerduring install, after keyboard layout, still no option for "install them side by side".  why?  I have 100gb unallocated space displayed (according to win7)23:04
erUSULshai: no problem23:04
ActionParsnipowner: did you check the CD for defects?23:04
ownerbooting from usb flashdrive. did a md5 and it was correct.23:05
ActionParsnipowner: you can check the USB for consistancy23:08
bobo123I have an avi here with multiple subtitles included in it, vlc(1.06 in ubuntu10.04) do lists the 3 subtitles in its video/subtitle-menu, but when I select any of them, no text is rendered. What can I do?23:08
ownerconsistancy, how?23:09
shaiActionParsnip, is the andrew [dot] org ; blog yours?23:09
ActionParsnipshai: never heard of it, sorry23:09
shaiThought you had solved it.. you said...23:10
ska_Can I put an entry into my /etc/network/interfaces without the network-manager getting confused?23:10
ska_I'm trying to fix an NMI problem in my Wlan interface.23:10
shaiActionParsnip, or did you just link to andrew's blog in the bug report?23:10
shais/bug/question23:10
ActionParsnipshai: what bug?23:10
ActionParsnipquestion...23:10
shaihttps://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+question/12759523:10
shaiActionParsnip, that's the URL you sent me to ... in which you sourced Andrew's blog ...23:11
ActionParsnipshai: its just a link to a fix dude23:11
ActionParsnipshai: showing where I got my info23:11
shaiFair enough... thought you were Andrew :)23:11
ActionParsnipshai: my name IS andrew, but it's not mine23:12
shailol23:12
shaiSo you MUST see where my confusion comes from then ... (though I didn't realize your name IS Andrew as well!)23:12
shaiSmall world... ah?23:12
NobleWhere is all the config files stored for evolution? I remove23:12
shaiAnyways, cheers for the help.23:12
NobleI remove ~/.evolution, but still it finds my account23:13
erUSULNoble: gconf23:13
smsYou know if you click the scrollwheel in windows, you get this scroll slider thing? Is there such a thing in ubuntu?23:13
ActionParsnipNoble: look in ~/.config too23:13
[thor]sms: middle-click is "paste" by default in gnome23:14
alfonsohi23:14
priyanka1hi23:14
alfonsoanyone willing to give me a hand?23:14
NobleerUSUL: Only the evolution folder? If i rm that it STILL finds my settings.23:14
* ActionParsnip applauds alfonso23:14
cela0811if im using kubuntu, should i use this channel, or is there a different one?23:15
coz_alfonso,  just say what the issues are and hopefully soneone will grab onto it :)23:15
smsOh23:15
coz_cela0811,  there is a #kubuntu channel23:15
alfonsoI'm trying to make my Realtek wi-fi card work23:15
cela0811thanks23:15
LauterinoThe bug asignee is a microsoft employee: http://www.google.se/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CBUQFjAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fbugs.launchpad.net%2Fubuntu%2F%2Bsource%2Fgadmin-bind%2F%2Bbug%2F326645&rct=j&q=gadmin-bind%20simon%20ravyn&ei=Fq6nTPPzPMje4gbzlcy8DQ&usg=AFQjCNHq5zuUq_Bvmks27Fyt1L7NilDXHw&cad=rja23:15
erUSULNoble: gconf-editor aps>evolution23:15
alfonsobut the connection is lost after a few hours and I have to restart the computer23:15
Chaos2358what do i need to install to be able to unzip .rar files?23:15
ActionParsnipalfonso: what realtek chip does it use?23:15
priyanka1what will be the addtinal features of upcoming 10.10 ubuntu?????23:15
alfonsoRealtek 818523:15
priyanka1any one23:15
NobleerUSUL: Err, I just want to purge my old settings..23:15
ActionParsnipChaos2358: sudo apt-get install rar unrar23:15
alfonsoI tried ndiswrapper with windows drivers but didn't work23:16
Chaos2358actionparsnip thank you23:16
ActionParsnipChaos2358: you can now use gui or you can use:  rar x filename.rar23:16
alfonsoIt didn't even recognize my card with ndiswrapper23:16
james333jameshey I need to create a launcher23:16
james333jamesCan anybody help me?23:16
ActionParsnipjames333james: right click the desktop -> new launcher23:17
Ken8521james333james, it's pretty straight forward.... right click desktop, click Create Launcher23:17
alfonsoI compiled and installed the Realtek linux drivers but the connection is lost after a while23:17
Chaos2358Wow i love the ubuntu support. good luck getting anything close with windows or mac23:17
alfonsoi know the card works because I've used it for months on Windows 723:17
james333jamesActionParsnip: yes i know this but my problem is that the file is on a directory and for lauch it i got to go in that directory and launch from the shell ./cacaoweb.linux23:17
Ken8521alfonso, well, wether it works w/ win7, is totally irrelevant.. is it internal, USB, etc?23:18
james333jamesActionParsnip:  what should i wrote in the command line of the launche icon to launch my program23:18
tekemperordoes anyone know how to do error recovery by default in yacc/bison?23:18
alfonsoIt's a PCI card23:18
erUSULNoble: do « alt + f2 » in the dialog go to apps>evolution. in there you will see all the old settingsd23:18
Ken8521james333james, whatever command you write in the terminal to launch the program23:18
Ken8521alfonso, ok.. open a terminal and type "lspci" no quotes, hit enter... and see what chipset your wireless card is.23:18
blacktoothhello all23:19
ActionParsnipjames333james: point the launcher to the file or script you want to launch23:19
alfonso04:05.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8185 IEEE 802.11a/b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 20)23:19
james333jamesKen8521:  if i write the command that i need ( ./cacaoweb.linux ) outside of that directory the program wont start23:19
alfonsothere23:19
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Ken8521james333james, so put the directory and the command there?.. it won't hurt anything23:19
DrDamnitChanged wife's laptop from XP to Ubuntu Netbook remix. If I don't find the Linux version of MS Picture Manager, she'll kill me, and no one will find the body. What's the Linux version of MS Picture Manager?23:20
Ken8521!realtek | alfonso23:20
ubottualfonso: some help for recent Realtek chipsets can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/RealtekRTL8187b23:20
james333jamesKen8521:  Just the last question: What means the command "./" before an executable?23:20
ActionParsnipalfonso: http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=1&PFid=1&Level=6&Conn=5&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false&Downloads=true    You can compile the driver using that source23:20
Ken8521could mean anything...23:20
DrDamnitjames333jame: the "./" tells linux to execute the command in the current directory.23:20
blacktoothDrDamnit eyeofgnome23:20
erUSULDrDamnit: f-spot ? gthumb ?23:20
erUSULDrDamnit: picasa for linux; shotwell ? there are few picture managers23:21
DrDamniterUSUL: she doesn't like f-spot, and for some reason it won't read 14 megapixel pictures. They are fuzzy like poor tv reception.23:21
alfonsoYes, actionParsnip, I'm using the compiled drivers right now23:21
DrDamnitinstalling eyeofgnome, gthummb, and picasa.23:21
alfonsobut it only works for some hours23:21
DrDamnitany other suggestions?23:21
Chaos2358ok can someone tell me how to install something onto the root of an sd card? just format the card and move the files over right?23:21
alfonsoI'm going to try the other link23:21
erUSULDrDamnit: eye of gnome is the  default picture viewer of gnome23:22
ownerHow do I check my ubuntu flashdrive for consistancy?23:22
DrDamniterUSUL: she just wants to correct for red-eye, and size it down to email out.23:22
Ken8521alfonso, my experience, realtek wireless devices are very shaky w/ Linux... i'd consider trying to find a intel or atheros card if i were you23:22
aasegardenhow can you play blu-ray movies in Ubuntu?23:23
erUSULDrDamnit: my favorite are gthumb; i liked gqview too23:23
Chaos2358ok can someone tell me how to install something onto the root of an sd card? just format the card and move the files over right?23:23
alfonsoYes, I tried a lot of things and I did consider just getting another card23:23
erUSULDrDamnit: http://www.linux.com/archive/articles/5888723:23
alfonsoeither that or moving the computer closer to the router and using an ethernet cable23:23
ActionParsnipaasegarden: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/BluRayAndHDDVD23:24
ActionParsnipaasegarden: a real quick websearch would have shown you that23:24
Ken8521alfonso, well, thats an option t.. just saying, realtek is shaky23:24
Ken8521at least in my experience23:24
aasegardenActionParsnip: true, but it seemed to me like you would have to decrypt the whole movie first. Are there noe plug n play soultions?23:25
ActionParsnipaasegarden: not sure, i dot use bluray anything23:25
aasegardenActionParsnip: I´m gonna use this machine as a media senter, and I do not want to process the movies before I play them23:25
DrDamniterUSUL: she just wants to correct for red-eye, and size it down to email out.23:25
DemoOnhello, can i get back my files if i have deleted them with 'rm -rf' ?23:26
aasegardenIf that´s not possible, I´m afraid Ubuntu ain´t a option - and that´s to bad, cause I really wanted to use Ubuntu for it, since it has some other snaxy features I want23:26
ActionParsnipaasegarden: then maybe ubuntu isn't the tool for the job23:26
erUSUL!undelete | DemoOn23:26
ubottuDemoOn: Some tools to recover lost data are listed and explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery - Recovering deleted files on !ext3 filesystems can be virtually impossible, although methods that might work is some cases are described at at http://www.xs4all.nl/~carlo17/howto/undelete_ext3.html and http://projects.izzysoft.de/trac/ext3undel23:26
ActionParsnipDemoOn: restore from backup23:26
erUSULDrDamnit: i hate to repeat myself ;P but once you did --> gthumb does all that23:27
DemoOnumm, could there be some important information in /opt folder?23:27
LauterinoActionParsnip: Youre new, see to it that bazhangul is removed.23:27
ActionParsniplaurens: new!!?23:27
erUSULDemoOn: /opt/ is usually empty23:27
DemoOnerUSUL: thank u23:27
ActionParsnipLauterino: new!?  how do you get new?23:27
ActionParsnipLauterino: i suggest you look at the top 5 contributors on launchpad23:28
LauterinoActionParsnip: Ive been coding for OSS since 199523:28
LauterinoActionParsnip: Its not bazhang23:28
LauterinoActionParsnip: That idiot does not code at all23:28
amarcolinojust read lucid release notes, has the issue with ext4 being slow and affecting dpkg package manager been sorted out?23:29
prod-beginnerhi all, I am still having troubles gettin my st lab n-210 NIC to work. The website states that it works on linux but even runnin a live cd doesnt get the device working. I only bought it today so i doubt very much that it is broken23:29
Ken8521amarcolino, i've had no issues w/ ext4 and the package manager23:29
ActionParsnipLauterino: i've used linux since mandrake 7 back in 2001, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+topcontributors  and I'm the 2nd highest contributor on Launchpad by a long shot23:29
LauterinoActionParsnip: I sincerely hope you arent protecting a known microsoft employee such as "Simon Raven" ?23:29
DrDamniterUSUL: thank you for repeating yourself. I missed that.23:29
erUSULprod-beginner: what chip does it uses? « lspci | grep -i net »23:30
ActionParsnipLauterino: whats the point of all this....23:30
LauterinoActionParsnip: Good work dude.23:30
Ken8521prod-beginner, it may work w/ Linux, but it may require insalling drivers... which often require restarting, so it may not work on a live cd23:30
ActionParsnipLauterino: thanks :)23:30
prod-beginnerrealtek chip ill get details now23:30
amarcolinoKen8521, thanks just making sure since I haven't tried ext423:30
Ken8521poor realtek fellas.23:30
Ken8521amarcolino, frankly i didn't have any problems w it in 10.04... but..23:30
LauterinoActionParsnip: Keep an eye out for illicit infiltrations. This is all i want. Be well my friend.23:31
ActionParsnipLauterino: i'd be higer than Martin Pit tbut he uploads to some space thing which gets him karma23:31
ActionParsnipLauterino: and you dude, have fun:)23:31
amarcolinoKen8521, but... ? Have you noticed excessive hangs, maybe cpu spiking etc which may result from ext4?23:32
LauterinoActionParsnip: Im highly sceptical of anything i read or hear. Acknowledged! :)23:32
Ken8521amarcolino, no, not at all...23:32
bazhang!ot | Lauterino23:32
ubottuLauterino: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!23:32
ActionParsnipLauterino: then youo'll spend too long worrying and not enough time experiencing23:33
Lauterinobazhang: !ot bazhanging23:33
prod-beginnergammagraphics inc(or missing id)23:33
bazhangLauterino, take chat elsewhere please23:33
amarcolinoKen8521, than the 'but...' meant? Ok just wanted to make sure by now I would've expected any issues to have been resolved23:33
Ken8521amarcolino, the but.. meant, but obviously, you've had a different experience23:33
Ken8521i've had zero probs w/ 10.04 on 3 machines23:34
amarcolinoKen8521, oh no, not yet and I hope I don't23:34
smsThere's a tiny delay when you open a window from the window list, is this removeable?23:34
JoeSomebodyhi, can someone tell me how to set up ubuntu for an ipod / itunes ? what apps or whatever?23:34
etrnlso I installed flashplugin-nonfree and still can't get flash support in epiphany23:34
etrnlis there a step I missed?23:34
|multipass|I just installed the latest Nvidia drivers, how come they dont show up on the  "Hardware Drivers" screen23:34
erUSUL!ipod | JoeSomebody23:35
ubottuJoeSomebody: For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto - For the iPhone and the iPod Touch, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone - See !RockBox for information on liberating your iPod23:35
|multipass|I just installed the latest Nvidia drivers, how come they dont show up on the  "Hardware Drivers" screen, it says "No proprietary drivers are in use on this system"23:35
Lauterinobazhang: Where is this "Somewhere else" ?23:36
erUSUL|multipass|: how did you installed them23:36
erUSUL?23:36
|multipass|i went to telinit 3, and installed them from the .run file-- everything went ok. i reboot everythings fine23:36
bazhangLauterino, #ubuntu-offtopic , this is for technical ubuntu support only23:37
|multipass|erUSUL: but i want to check which ones are in use, is there any way to do this?23:37
david_does anyone know how to get rid of the arrow on the main menu ubuntu 10.10?23:37
erUSUL|multipass|: you bypassed the "official" methods of installing the drivers. that's why the "Hardware Drivers" program does not know they are installed23:37
bazhangdavid_, #ubuntu+1 for that23:37
erUSUL|multipass|: dmesg | grep -i nvidia23:38
|multipass|[   11.775058] NVRM: loading NVIDIA UNIX x86_64 Kernel Module  256.53  Fri Aug 27 20:27:48 PDT 201023:38
|multipass|looks good i guess :b23:38
JoeSomebodythanks erUSUL23:38
|multipass|thanks23:38
erUSULno problem both23:39
erUSULXD23:39
incognito_I installe VLC but when I try to navigate to my dvd in my dvd rom ubunto cannot see it. How do I mount the dvd player?23:39
erUSUL!dvd | incognito_23:40
ubottuincognito_: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats23:40
Ken8521incognito_, usually when you put a disk in the drive, it auto mounts..23:40
erUSULincognito_: for dvd you need to enable madibuntu repo and install libdccs223:40
erUSUL!medibuntu | incognito_23:40
ubottuincognito_: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org23:40
Ken8521erUSUL, but he should still be able to see the disk in VLC, it just won't play23:40
RealOpty!stable23:40
ubottuCommon Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.23:40
RealOpty?23:41
RealOptyawesome23:41
RealOptyok whats the stable version name atm?23:41
erUSUL!lucid | RealOpty23:41
ubottuRealOpty: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS (Lucid Lynx) is the current release of Ubuntu. Download http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.04/ - Release Info: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/100423:41
RealOptyah lucid23:41
RealOptyty23:41
RealOpty!maveric23:41
incognito_I know about medubuntu. I'v installed it many time, but shouldn't the dvd mount anyways?23:42
RealOptyand maveric is the new rc yea?23:42
millertimek1a2m3Hey, if I create an Ad-hoc network23:42
millertimek1a2m3how do I get the files that the other person has?23:43
millertimek1a2m3or send them?23:43
millertimek1a2m3*other person within close physical distance23:43
erUSULmillertimek1a2m3: use samba/ssh/nfs ?23:43
ActionParsnipmillertimek1a2m3: use samba or sshfs (if the client is linux based)23:43
Ken8521millertimek1a2m3, i use simpllehttp for that.. it's.. welll, simple23:43
erUSUL!info giver23:44
ubottugiver (source: giver): simple file sharing desktop application. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.8-6 (lucid), package size 144 kB, installed size 440 kB23:44
incognito_erUSUL can you just give me the command to mount the DVD player? is  the dvd player going to be sdb sdc or what?23:44
erUSULincognito_: /dev/sr0 usually « sudo mount -t auto /dev/sr0 /mount/point/ »23:45
vsMSHi! Can somebody help with luzid and softraid?23:45
RealOptywhats the recommended method of implementing a apt-proxy/cache server?23:46
erUSUL!aptproxy23:46
ubottuapt-proxy is a program that acts as a local apt repository server for a LAN, only fetching from the internet when required. To set it up see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptProxy23:46
RealOptyive already done it using apt-proxy, i dont need a guide, but wondering23:46
RealOptyif theres anything better :)23:46
vsMSRealOpty: Try aptcacherng-ng23:46
Ken8521erUSUL, can giver be used for someone that is not on your network?23:47
Lauterinobazhang: Do you microsofters have an eta on when youll go away mr ballhangs ?23:47
erUSULKen8521: do not think so. is for local network only23:48
erUSULKen8521: for that is better and secure ssh23:48
Ken8521erUSUL, oh ok.. i was talking about sharing off network23:48
etrnlso I installed flashplugin-nonfree and still can't get flash support in epiphany23:49
etrnlanything else I am supposed to do?23:49
bobo123anyone knows of a thirdparty repository with vlc in it that I can use to get a newer version of vlc?  someone at #videolan said "build VLC yourself, VLC shipped by ubuntu is broken by their package maintainers.", but I'm not sure I dare to compile vlc myself23:49
erUSUL!ppa | bobo12323:50
ubottubobo123: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and should be used at your own risk.23:50
xanguabobo123: google knows http://www.webupd8.org/2010/08/install-vlc-114-in-ubuntu-via-new-ppa.html23:50
DannoIs this the place to be to get help unstalling Ubuntu? New to Linux, so if anyone has time to help would be appreciated. I only have a couple of questions.23:50
bobo123xangua:  thanks  :-)23:51
erUSUL!ask | Danno23:51
ubottuDanno: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)23:51
rebirthwhere is the tomboy plugins folder?23:51
prod-beginnermy NIC is Gammagraphics, Inc. (or missing ID) Device 00809rev10) is now being detected on my 10.04 server install23:51
FableflameWhat's the best program for burning LiveCDs?23:51
prod-beginnerI have googled myself silly and cant seem to find a driver23:51
adrianhello?23:52
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prod-beginnerin windows its a plug and play device and needs no drivers23:52
Ken8521Fableflame, are you using Windows or Linux, or what.. to burn them?23:52
zaidkawhen ubuntu resumes from suspened state, the screen stays off.. any idea?23:52
bobo123Danno: sure, are you about to install another linux-distribution of os, or what do you want to use the freed diskspace for after you uninstall ubuntu?23:53
bobo123*or23:53
erUSULprod-beginner: gammagraphics does not look like a network chip ... are you sure? ( google can not find  anything )23:53
ActionParsnipzaidka: using nvidia video card?23:53
Guest20533i just installed jolicloud, its so fast23:53
zaidkaActionParsnip: yes23:53
Guest20533guess never going back to windows23:53
ActionParsnipzaidka: guess how i knew ;)23:53
bobo123hello adrian/Guest20533 :-)23:53
zaidkaActionParsnip: 'cause nvidia is crap?23:54
Guest20533hello23:54
prod-beginnerthe card is packaged as ST lab N-210, on the card there is a realtek chip, and in lspci its gammagraphics |:S23:54
DannoTHanks. I currently have WIndows 7 installed on a 500GB partition. I have another 450GB partition that I use for large file storage. I have a third partition of 50GB where I want to install Ubuntu. I have created a cd and can boot into the graphical install menu. It gives me two options: Install over entire drive (delete existing files) or advanced install. What do I do to install it side by side with windows on the 50GB partition?23:54
Mudzaidka: nvidia ftw23:54
Mudat least23:54
Mudon windows :+23:55
MudxD23:55
FloodBot1Mud: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.23:55
ActionParsnipzaidka: no nvidia is great, just coming out of suspend etc can be painful with their chips23:55
prod-beginneri will have to remove the card to be more specific on the chip23:55
zaidkaActionParsnip: so any solution to this?23:55
mattbdFableflame: Do you need to burn it at all? Unetbootin lets you install a Linux distro on a USB stick easily23:55
ActionParsnipzaidka: it's pink but looks promising: http://ubuntulinuxtipstricks.blogspot.com/2008/03/ati-nvidia-resume-good-news-bad-news.html23:55
Fableflamemattbd, I'm burning it for a friend who doesn't have any working USB ports23:55
zaidkalol23:56
ActionParsnipzaidka: you will be hunting for guides like that to get it nice, personally i think suspend is overrated and NOT worth the effort23:56
zaidkaActionParsnip: the previous ubuntu was fine with this23:56
prod-beginnershould i remove the card and google the chip it has on the NIC?23:56
ActionParsnipzaidka: log a regression bug then23:56
zaidkaActionParsnip: also, the screen brightness keys don't work.. any suggestion?23:57
erUSULprod-beginner: is a gigabit card ?23:57
prod-beginner10/10023:57
ActionParsnipzaidka: log a bug23:57
ActionParsnip!shortcut | zaidka23:57
ubottuzaidka: Keyboard shortcuts can be set in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts. If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try the 'keytouch' package, explained at http://keytouch.sourceforge.net - See !Keyboard for changing layouts23:57
erUSULprod-beginner: ok; if it is realtek 10/100 there are two possibilities...23:57
mattbdFableflame: OK, on Windows I like InfraRecorder. On Ubuntu Brasero and K3B are both pretty good23:58
prod-beginnerdoes it help to mention there is a realtek onboard the mobo?23:58
erUSULprod-beginner: try this « sudo modprobe 8139too » then run « ifconfig -a » does eth0 appear now ?23:58
erUSULprod-beginner: or eth1 if you already have a eth0 from the mobo23:59
bobo123Danno: yes use the "advanced install" so you can select wich harddisk to install to23:59
prod-beginnertyvm tryin now23:59

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