[00:00] <daftykins> ubuntu_: back it up to one of the others first?
[00:00] <st__> Orkibo, you don;t have now
[00:00] <daftykins> or better yet an external drive
[00:00] <pankaj_sharma> its better to make ghost image of your drive
[00:00] <demonspork> I am trying to use a locally mounted .iso image as an extra apt repository, how can I add this in?
[00:01] <ubuntu_> daftykins, st__, I have an external hard drive which I could theoretically use for backups. Would I just need to back up the Ubuntu partition? If so, how? Also, can I non-destructively resize my Lucid partition?
[00:01] <daftykins> ubuntu_: well what do you really have on it of any value?
[00:01] <st__> ubuntu_, you should, but i know nothing of macs partitions.
[00:02] <valadares> how i configure 3g internet in Ubuntu
[00:02] <valadares> ?
[00:02] <ubuntu_> daftykins, I have an apache web server that I actively use, a samba server, lots of stuff in ~, and lots of applications. It has been and will continue to be my main work parition.
[00:02] <ubuntu_> daftykins, Losing data is not an option.
[00:03] <ActionParsnip> !3g
[00:03] <st__> ubuntu_, just sudo tar it to file on external hd
[00:03] <daftykins> ubuntu_: technically, as ubuntu is a Linux, you could tar the entire root and back it up, then if things go wrong, do a clean install to the new lower partition size, then restore from the tar
[00:03] <donvitoman> wich one is the best video chat client like windows messenger?
[00:03] <ubuntu_> st__, What should a Mac partition have to do with resizing an Ubuntu parition?
[00:03] <ActionParsnip> valadares: http://www.geekology.co.za/blog/2009/05/configuring-vodafone-3g-modem-on-ubuntu-linux-904-jaunty-jackalope/
[00:04] <Orkibo> It's uninstalled. Thanks st__, appreciate it :)
[00:04] <ActionParsnip> donvitoman: amsn
[00:04] <st__> ubuntu_, mac-style partition table i mean
[00:04] <cityLights> pls help me chroot to from livecd to sda6
[00:04] <ActionParsnip> !chroot
[00:04] <ubuntu_> daftykins, Okay, how exactly would I go about restoring from the tar?
[00:04] <demonspork> ubuntu_, the mac uses a different type of MBR on the disk, so the way the partitions are marked is different
[00:04] <daftykins> cityLights: is it a single partition install?
[00:04] <cityLights> YES
[00:04] <demonspork> ah, he already answered
[00:04] <ubuntu_> demonspork, st__, and you're saying that there's the potential for borking my system, correct?
[00:04] <daftykins> ubuntu_: you'll need to backup from livecd too, i'd read into the tar manual page
[00:05] <daftykins> there's always the potential for borking when resizing partitions :)
[00:05] <unknown> .
[00:05] <cityLights> I get chroot: cannot run command '/bin/bash' : Exec format error
[00:05] <st__> cityLights, mismatched architetctures
[00:05] <daftykins> cityLights: what are you typing?
[00:05] <unknown> hello
[00:06] <ubuntu_> daftykins, Understood, I am actually in the liveCD right now (I don't plan on doing anything though). I can tar the Lucid partition just fine, but how exactly do I restore the new system?
[00:06] <cityLights> hmm 64 bit issue
[00:06] <demonspork> !hello | unknown
[00:06] <cityLights> let me see
[00:06] <demonspork> !hi | unknown
[00:06] <demonspork> whatt
[00:06] <unknown> hi demon
[00:06] <demonspork> when did the hello feature get removed from ubottu
[00:06] <demonspork> :(
[00:06] <rww> demonspork: because people were overusing it
[00:06] <ubuntu_> !botsnack
[00:06] <valadares> ActionParsnip:it's for claro 3g....works?
[00:06] <ActionParsnip> !hi | demonspork
[00:06] <ThinkWork> How do I get Xchat to show the people in the current channel?
[00:06] <demonspork> :(
[00:06] <daftykins> ubuntu_: nuke the partition, format it as EXT3 or 4, extract the tar archive back to it, then fix GRUB2 (assuming it's a GRUB2 setup)
[00:07] <demonspork> ThinkWork, by showing the userlist
[00:07] <ActionParsnip> valadares: if the device is seen as a usb storage currently then yes
[00:07] <rww> not hard to just say hi to people by hand. throwing factoids at them was impolite, in my opinion
[00:07] <ubuntu_> daftykins, Okay. Now that I think about this, the trouble of making functional and reliable backups for three different OSs is a little more trouble than it's worth. Thanks for your help though. Oh, and is Lucid Grub2?
[00:08] <sorush20> hi
[00:08] <daftykins> ubuntu_: it is indeed!
[00:08] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu_: depends how valuable your data is ;)
[00:08] <ubuntu_> !hello | sorush20
[00:08] <st__> ubuntu_, yes, but I used simple grub just fine
[00:08] <ubuntu_> worth a shot
[00:08] <DrupalJim> just transfered a site to my servr. now i'm getting this in my apache logs and a white screen of death.  Trying to get property of non-object in theme.inc
[00:08] <sorush20> just wanted to find out what is the recommened ftp server to install on ubuntu.
[00:08] <owner> gnome
[00:08] <ThinkWork> demonspork, I dont see any areas in preferences or dropdown lists that allows me to "show userlist"
[00:08] <BadElvis> hi, i first installed win7 on my hard disk and now installed ubuntu on another harddisk. how can i configure grub to let me choose between those two?
[00:08] <daftykins> ubuntu_: personally, i'd just get another disk ;)
[00:08] <owner> back
[00:08] <ubuntu_> ActionParsnip, Well, I would not be a happy camper if the paritions exploded :)
[00:08] <daftykins> !grub2 | BadElvis
[00:09] <ActionParsnip> !ftpd | sorush20
[00:09] <st__> DrupalJim, server support is that way ---------------->
[00:09] <daftykins> BadElvis: see ubottu's GRUB2 info
[00:09] <owner> now i see my HDD i have make an partition
[00:09] <ubuntu_> daftykins, Wait.. another disk? I have an external hard drive if that's what you mean.
[00:09] <ActionParsnip> sorush20: there is norecommended app for any purpose
[00:09] <daftykins> ubuntu_: nah internal second ;)
[00:09] <demonspork> ThinkWork, Settings>Preferences>Interface>User list> Show user list at:
[00:09] <sorush20> ActionParsnip: I'm using joomla installation I need to know.
[00:09] <demonspork> ThinkWork, if it is already set, just change where it is set and that should make it pop back into place
[00:10] <st__> sorush20, server discussion goes in #ubuntu-server
[00:10] <ubuntu_> daftykins, I wish. This is Apple hardware we're talking about.. in order to do that I need a 20 pound suction cup, plyers, a wrench, and a signed autograph of steve jobs :)
[00:10] <ActionParsnip> sorush20: choose one based on what you need, ftp is very unsecure, sftp is much more secure. If its just for LAN access thn ftp is fine
[00:10] <ThinkWork> I dont have a settings menu... I have preferences under the edit menu, but that has no interface section...
[00:10] <daftykins> ubuntu_: lol ouch, one of those - which type is it may i ask?
[00:10] <BadElvis> !GRUB2
[00:11] <st__> ThinkWork, what are you talking about?
[00:11] <ActionParsnip> sorush20: there is no recommended mail app, web browser, chat client, anything. You are using an OS which is built on freedom and choice yet you still ask complete strangers what you should use. Where's your freedom? Smacks of microsoft a bit doesn't it?
[00:11] <ubuntu_> daftykins, It is a 2008 iMac 24''. I got it for my Bar Mitzvah at a time when I was on a little love fest with Apple.. then I got into Linux.. :)
[00:11] <ThinkWork> Responding to demonspork
[00:11] <ThinkWork> How do I get Xchat to show the people in the current channel?
 ThinkWork, Settings>Preferences>Interface>User list> Show user list at:
[00:12] <ActionParsnip> ThinkWork: i thought that was default....
[00:12] <daftykins> ubuntu_: hehe, has your Ubuntu use on it been plain sailing, compatibility wise etc? i think the community lacks some decent feedback on mac hardware use
[00:12] <tigertv69> anybody know if u can resume Xsesions with screen?
[00:12] <ubuntu_> ActionParsnip, ThinkWork, I think it is the default in xchat, but not xchat-gnome.
[00:12] <ThinkWork> I dont have a userlist window, I have a thing to click to show users, but it doesnt stay up
[00:12] <ThinkWork> Yes I am using Xchat-Gnome
[00:12] <solidus-river> im trying ot set up passenger on ubuntu
[00:13] <st__> ThinkWork, remove that pos
[00:13] <solidus-river> but if i install it via gem i cant find the executables
[00:13] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu_: i see, I use pidgin personally
[00:13] <ThinkWork> I blame Ubuntu
[00:13] <st__> ThinkWork, uncircumcised xchat is much better
[00:13] <ThinkWork> lol
[00:13] <blakkheim> i like irssi
[00:14] <donvito2> any music player like winamp
[00:14] <donvito2> ?
[00:14] <donvito2> for ubuntu maverick
[00:14] <donvito2> ?
[00:14] <FloodBot2> donvito2: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:14] <ActionParsnip> !10.10 | donvito2
[00:14] <st__> donvito2, audacity2
[00:14] <rww> !winamp
[00:14] <donvito2> movie player with subtitles
[00:14] <donvito2> ?
[00:14] <rww> vlc
[00:15] <st__> oh damn audacity is fireforge clone
[00:15] <bastidrazor> donvito2: vlc or mplayer
[00:15] <ActionParsnip> donvito2: mplayer / vlc
[00:15] <donvito2> thx
[00:15] <daftykins> donvito2: i'm sorry to say nothing comes close in all honesty.
[00:15] <tigertv69> anyone?
[00:15] <demonspork> ThinkWork, sudo apt-get remove xchat-gnome and then do sudo apt-get install xchat xchat-xsys
[00:15] <demonspork> ThinkWork, xchat gnome isn't xchat
[00:15] <daftykins> tigertv69: anything in its' man page?
[00:16] <tigertv69> doesnt say
[00:16] <tigertv69> or specifiy
[00:16] <rww> tigertv69: pretty sure you can't
[00:16] <tigertv69> is there anything
[00:16] <tigertv69> or anyway you can do that
[00:16] <ubuntu_> daftykins, It's an interesting story. I tried a few months after I got the iMac to put the then-current 9.04 on it.. I don't think the thing even booted. (Granted, I couldn't program my way out of a paper bag back then let alone find my away around a linux system). I tried 9.10 and had better luck, and used it for a while, but I stopped because I wasn't capable enough to use it over OS X at the time. A few borks (due to my own experi
[00:16] <ubuntu_> mentation) after Lucid, I stuck around wtih it and set up my currnet triple boot. Lucid works MAGICALLY with my iMac. Literally everything works out of the box.. even wireless works on the liveCD (I'm on it right now)!. Interestingly there is this odd rumor on the net and in ##macosx that Linux can't control the Apple SMC => CPU fry. However I and lots of other people use Linux on their Macs daily so I don't know what's up. To be hon
[00:16] <ubuntu_> est, the reason for the third partition is primarily to put ArchLinux on; I love it in VirtualBox but it's just not the same as if it were baremetal. So yeah, hardware support is excellent, save a problem with fglrx that is in the Lucid repos and has been fixed for a month via Catalyst on the ATI website.
[00:16] <st__> what is the simplest way to get a list of files except several specified names
[00:16] <FloodBot2> ubuntu_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:16] <RJ_F1> how can I set up a bot, similar to ubottu, for my channel?
[00:17] <ubuntu_> That was quite a mouthful.
[00:17] <st__> RJ_F1, chech freenode site
[00:17] <ActionParsnip> RJ_F1: http://www.wikihow.com/Set-Up-YourBot-IRC-Bot
[00:17] <owner> can any one tell me how do i low format my hdd from a live linux cd?
[00:17] <tigertv69> basically let me give senario: i want to do ftp transfers on my ubuntu server... i have my laptop with mye.. i setup Xming.. and do the X to start the transfers.. working great.. then i need to go out.. i bring my laptop with me.. ... when i come back home i connect back to my server and want the files to still be downloading while i am gone.. so i log back into ssh and then the X app pops...
[00:17] <tigertv69> ...up or i go back to see its completed its run
[00:17] <demonspork> How do I use a mounted disk image with a package repo on it? I only have CLI, no gui
[00:17] <st__> owner, low format is a myth
[00:17] <ActionParsnip> owner: you can echo 0s to the disk to blank it
[00:17] <owner> st__ i need to rebuilt my sectors....cause i have bad sectors on it
[00:18] <ActionParsnip> owner: sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda    for example
[00:18] <st__> owner, bad sectors are myth too
[00:18] <Eimhin> I'm just after installing a .deb that I converted from .rpm with alien, but I can't run it. It's shown in synaptic as installed, but when I run "qjoypad" in the terminal I get "Bash: qjoypad: Command not found"
[00:18] <ActionParsnip> owner: if it has bad sectors, chuck it, its bad
[00:18] <rww> !alien
[00:18] <daftykins> ubuntu_: cool :) thanks for that, very interesting
[00:18] <st__> it's not 1991, the device electronics takes care of that
[00:18] <ActionParsnip> Eimhin: extract the deb in your home folder someplace to see what files it makes
[00:18] <st__> all good stuff is RPM anyway
[00:19] <Eimhin> mkay
[00:19] <tigertv69> is what im asking impossible?
[00:19] <ubuntu_> daftykins, Yup :) Thanks again for your help, I gotta run -- it's dinner time!
[00:19] <lacrymology> can I get help setting up jack, please?
[00:19] <owner> what means chuck?
[00:19] <there__> Hello
[00:20] <owner> sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda i have enter this in terminal, and now my hdd led i on ? is formating or what?
[00:20] <st__> !nick
[00:20] <rww> owner: "chuck it" means throw it away
[00:20] <Eimhin> I get 3 files, "control.tar.gz", "data.tar.gz" and "debian-binary"
[00:20] <blakkheim> owner: lol
[00:20] <ActionParsnip> Eimhin: you can install it using deb via the getdeb ppa
[00:20] <Eimhin> K I'll try that
[00:20] <st__> owner, you're just corrupting it right now, wiping your windows 7 and your data
[00:20] <owner> i wont throw away a 250 gb hdd, cause i dont have money for another
[00:21] <owner> st__ is no problem , i just want it to delet all things, and make it clean
[00:21] <ActionParsnip> owner: its writing 0s the the disk you named. I hope sda is the disk you want to wipe, i only used sda as an example (as I said)
[00:21] <owner> ActionParsnip i just have 1 partition and want it all deleted  :p
[00:22] <ActionParsnip> owner: doesn't matter, you still need to set the right disk
[00:22] <ActionParsnip> owner: the disk will degrade until your OS simply doesn't boot, if your system can boot USB then you can install to a USB stick or SD card
[00:22] <Eimhin> ActionParsnip, how abouts do I use it
[00:22] <Eimhin> the getdeb ppa that is
[00:23] <owner> i dont have an os on my hdd
[00:23] <owner> i will instal after this thing finish
[00:23] <tensorpudding> How might one export a list of packages installed on the system, for use in restoring from backups?
[00:23] <ActionParsnip> Eimhin: add the ppa and you can install using software centre etc
[00:23] <Eimhin> gotcha
[00:23] <rww> !clone
[00:24] <pankaj_sharma> owner: format complete?
[00:24] <ActionParsnip> Eimhin: http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/ppa/getdeb_games?dist=lucid
[00:24] <owner> ActionParnship no, terminal still waits
[00:24] <owner> and led still flash
[00:24] <tensorpudding> rww: grazie!
[00:25] <ActionParsnip> owner: yep, its writing '0' from the start of the drive to the end
[00:25] <st__> 250GB may take several hours
[00:25] <owner> ActionParsnip , so this is like a low format? or total format , no?
[00:25] <owner> is diferent from Quik format ?
[00:26] <donvito2> you know why is stupid ubuntu >\
[00:26] <donvito2> ?
[00:26] <donvito2> because you cant make video calls
[00:26] <knolls> ubuntu chat?
[00:26] <st__> donvito2, ubuntu is low-cost server solution, it's not made for video calls
[00:26] <ActionParsnip> owner: the disk will be written zero, it will still be the current format but the data will be destroyed
[00:26] <Eimhin> ActionParsnip, I'm getting more of the same, it says it's installed and then I go to run it, command not found
[00:27] <Eimhin> http://pastebin.com/zuZKJTrB
[00:27] <jrib> donvito2: except you can?
[00:27] <owner> ActionParsnip , what about bad sectors? they will be ignored? or isolated?
[00:27] <donvito2> st__ ubuntu desktop what does this mean?
[00:27] <Eimhin> You can make video calls
[00:27] <ActionParsnip> owner: quick fomat only wipes the FAT
[00:27] <blakkheim> donvito2: just because you don't know how to do it doesn't mean it can't be done
[00:28] <ActionParsnip> owner: not sure about that dude, bad sectors are failurs on the disk
[00:28] <donvito2> canot capture from your camer it says
[00:28] <st__> donvito2, that it is intended to leeech some support money from Debian
[00:28] <daveinlv> am running Ubuntu 10.04, decided to install KDE to see what it looked like, now I'd like to be able to switch back to Gnome, but the selector on the login screen seems to have disappeared. I want Gnome to be the default manager.. I checked the "Alternatives Configurator" and for x-session-manager it shows /usr/bin/gnome-session but if I log out/back in, I'm still in KDE... Help!
[00:28]  * davidfetter thinks they should have called it the Persistent Hardware Allocation Table
[00:28] <jrib> st__: what on earth are you talking about?
[00:28] <davidfetter> so it'd be PHAT, yo
[00:28] <owner> ActionParsnip ok , i think i must wait long time till this finish cause is 250 gb hdd :-S
[00:28] <rww> jrib: nothing sane, as usual
[00:29] <ActionParsnip> owner: yep, depends on the drive speed etc too, not just space
[00:29] <owner> ActionParsnip, any way i think it will take like 1 hour :p
[00:30] <Eimhin> I'm getting more of the same, it says it's installed and then I go to run it, command not found
[00:30] <Eimhin> http://pastebin.com/zuZKJTrB
[00:30] <lacrymology> jack has hung, and kill -s 9 doesn't do the trick
[00:30] <donvito2> another client execpt amsn to make video calls with msn ?
[00:31] <lubun2> Eimhin, it said 0 installed
[00:31] <krabador> donvito2, emesne
[00:31] <krabador> donvito2, emesene
[00:31] <Eimhin> because the latest version is already isntalled
[00:31] <donvito2> okey thank you
[00:32] <Eimhin> I had it installed already ActionParsnip told me to add another source and try it again
[00:32] <Shaman__> how i can configure a sound setting, my sound card is nvidia mcp61
[00:32] <shinkamui> Im trying to do an install with the default iso, is there a way to install from the console if the live cd portion isn't working and I can only get console graphics?
[00:33] <shinkamui> or do I have to download the alternate cd
[00:34] <donvito2> maybe
[00:34] <st__> shinkamui, no yo u need alternate
[00:35] <donvito2> something is wrong with my webcam , anyway how to install apache?
[00:35] <donvito2> !apache
[00:35] <st__> is the lamp issue when it was sending php sources fixed now?
[00:36] <shinkamui> st__, thanks, was trying to avoid that, but Ill search for one.  Seems the PPC arch is dead and its not so easy to get a non nightly build for 10.10
[00:36] <Shaman__> how configure a sound,  my sound card is nvidia mcp61
[00:36] <A_New_Server> What is the file type that Ubuntu uses? Like if I compile a C++ program for Ubuntu and for Windows, it does the same thing but I don't see a file type when I click it in Ubuntu
[00:36] <A_New_Server> Like if I click windows I see executable or .exe
[00:37] <blakkheim> A_New_Server: linux does not depend on file extensions, it looks at what the file actually is
[00:37] <st__> A_New_Server, usually it's no extension
[00:37] <A_New_Server> So why do some files, most actually, have extensions? o.O Is that just for the users benefit?
[00:37] <lenswipe> heyg uys
[00:37] <blakkheim> yes
[00:38] <A_New_Server> Ah, thanks.
[00:38] <erUSUL> A_New_Server: correct
[00:38] <st__> A_New_Server, it's faster than file heuristics
[00:38] <Shaman__> помоги настроить звук плз, звуковая плата nvidia mcp61
[00:38] <bazhang> Shaman__, #ubuntu-ru
[00:38] <st__> A_New_Server, also file cannot handle complex documents like xml ones or ole storage
[00:39] <erUSUL> A_New_Server: linux uses magic db to see what a file really is. see « man file » in a terminal
[00:39] <Shaman__> i cant go to ubuntu ru, it  write i'm banned, but i never go here
[00:39] <dludldin> hi everyone!
[00:39] <st__> Shaman__, register a nickname on freenode
[00:40] <st__> /nickserver help
[00:40] <dludldin> how do i reinstall a program from scratch?
[00:40] <bazhang> st__, its not set to +r
[00:40] <rww> st__: that's not the problem
[00:40] <st__> dludldin, sudo aptitude reinstall PACKAGE
[00:40] <rww> Shaman__: your ident is set to "root", which is banned from that channel for some reason. Consider changing it.
[00:41] <dludldin> st__ : complete removal didn t work. is that a similar way of what you told me to do?
[00:41] <MooshiMuushi> Hey everyone :)
[00:42] <MooshiMuushi> Remove of what?
[00:42] <st__> dludldin, yes, remove it from /var/lib/dpkg/status and install again
[00:43] <tyme> ello world
[00:44] <tyme> no sound in ubuntu 10.04...help
[00:45] <tyme> no sound in ubuntu 10.04...help!!!!
[00:45] <blakkheim> no need to repeat yourself
[00:45] <st__> tyme, and your hardware is?
[00:46] <tyme> compaq cq62
[00:46] <dludldin> st__ : remove it from status? what do you mean?
[00:46] <donvito2> how to restart open ssh server
[00:47] <blakkheim>  /etc/init.d/ssh restart
[00:48] <MooshiMuushi> Is there a way to use ad-hoc and infrastructure internet at the same time?
[00:48] <daftykins> MooshiMuushi: two wireless devices
[00:49] <dludldin> how do i reinstall a program from scratch?
[00:50] <tyme> all hope is lost...i am slowly dying inside...help
[00:50] <MooshiMuushi> daftykins, Can't we connect to 2 wireless at the same time? Using 1 device?
[00:50] <daftykins> doubt it
[00:50] <MooshiMuushi> daftykins, What about Lan + Wireless at the same time?
[00:51] <daftykins> MooshiMuushi: there's no such thing as ad-hoc on wired? :)
[00:51] <daftykins> what are you trying to do? :)
[00:51] <dinky> Hi folks, having trouble setting up my Apache Webserver using Webmin. Am a complete noob at servers
[00:51] <daftykins> dinky: dedicated box install, VM, ?
[00:51] <blakkheim> !webmin > dinky
[00:51] <MooshiMuushi> daftykins, Ahaha, nono. Lan (Ethernet cable) and Wireless (Internet).
[00:51] <MooshiMuushi> daftykins, PS3 Media Server.
[00:52] <daftykins> MooshiMuushi: are you trying to share a wireless net connection to a PS3 over a wired connection? 0o
[00:52] <dinky> ubottu, not entirely helpful.
[00:52] <dinky> Dedicated box install
[00:53] <tyme> i'm dying???
[00:53] <MooshiMuushi> daftykins, Wireless is for the internet for the Laptop :) Lan is for the media server for the PS3.
[00:53] <dinky> I have it set up on a seperate machine as a server, and can browse the machine from it's local ip address, but I only get "It works, no content added"
[00:53] <daftykins> MooshiMuushi: just plug it in and set a static IP on laptop + PS3 then \o/
[00:53] <dinky> Having a really hard time adding content
[00:53] <donvito2> !photoshop
[00:54] <MooshiMuushi> daftykins, Doesn't wireless media server cost download/upload usage?
[00:54] <dinky> I have tried setting document root to /var/www and dropping a index.html file, but no change
[00:54] <daftykins> dinky: /var/www/ is the root, so if webmin isn't APT installable, you'd have to put its' files in there to access it from another box
[00:55] <dinky> daftykins, I've done that.
[00:55] <daftykins> so your changes aren't coming up?
[00:55] <dinky> Not at all
[00:55] <daftykins> dinky: checked /etc/apache2/ blah blah... sites-enabled ?
[00:55] <dinky> Have tried setting up another virtual server, no luck
[00:55] <dinky> No....
[00:55] <dludldin> how do i reinstall a program from scratch?
[00:56] <dinky> I've seen that file... what does it do?
[00:56] <daftykins> dludldin: sudo apt-get reinstall --purge <package>
[00:56] <blakkheim> !repeat | dludldin
[00:56] <daftykins> dinky: one sec lemme SSH into my web server
[00:57] <dinky> Thanks daftykins
[00:57] <daftykins> dinky: /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default
[00:57] <tyme> no sound in ubuntu 10.04 in flash videos...anyone???
[00:57] <dinky> daftykins: will see what my file says
[00:57] <daftykins> dinky: might be worth a...
[00:57] <daftykins> !pastebin
[00:59] <uLinux> How can I reset NVIDIA X Server Settings?
[00:59] <uLinux> Can I delete xorg.conf?
[01:00] <daftykins> uLinux: have you set something you don't want in there?
[01:00] <uLinux> daftykins: some stuff but to be sure i'd like to reset everything to default
[01:01] <tyme> no sound in ubuntu 10.04 in flash videos @aarcane
[01:01] <daftykins> uLinux: see if the relevant thing has been put in xorg.conf
[01:03] <uLinux> daftykins: I typed 'sudo﻿ nvidia-xconfig'
[01:03] <uLinux> and it changed the xorg.conf
[01:05] <sir_tyrion> How can I log out of an x session (gdm session) on commandline
[01:05] <daftykins> uLinux: all that'd do is give you a basic config that uses the nvidia driver. if it's broken something, restore the backup that that created
[01:05] <daftykins> sir_tyrion: you could just restart GDM
[01:06] <uLinux> daftykins: well everything works fine :P
[01:06] <Izinucs> sir_tyrion: sudo service gdm stop .. after that pidof gdm to see if anthing is remaining..
[01:06] <uLinux> daftykins: it's just that default xorg.conf was smaller
[01:07] <sir_tyrion> Thanks, sudo service gdm restart worked
[01:07] <dinky> daftykins: just checked /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default and there's nothing there
[01:07] <daftykins> dinky: literally empty?
[01:07] <Izinucs> sir_tyrion: yep.. restart is another  as well as stop/start
[01:07] <dinky> daftykins: yup
[01:08] <dinky> daftykins: how do I configure it? There's another file, webmin.(lotsanumbers).conf that seems to be from the virtual server I tried to add
[01:09] <daftykins> hmm
[01:09] <daftykins> what's in that?
[01:09] <dinky> Hang on...
[01:10] <dinky> daftykins: <VirtualHost *:*>
[01:10] <dinky> DocumentRoot "/var/www"
[01:10] <dinky> <Directory "/var/www">
[01:10] <dinky> allow from all
[01:10] <dinky> Options +Indexes
[01:10] <FloodBot2> dinky: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
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[01:11] <uLinux> bbl
[01:11] <bericp1> hey guys... i have a problem
[01:11] <jackyalcine> developer chat?
[01:11] <daftykins> ?
[01:11] <jimlovell777> Is there a way to expand the area around a window that's used for resizing? I find it extremely difficult to hit that tiny margin.
[01:11] <tigertv69> anoyne knw?
[01:11] <daftykins> jimlovell777: i have the same problem, there've been bugs for ages but no idea personally...
[01:11] <siddhion> hey how does one get to their File System folder in Terminal
[01:12] <daftykins> siddhion: cd /
[01:12] <dinky> Daftykins: It's something like this: <VirtualHost *:*>DocumentRoot "/var/www"<Directory "/var/www">allow from allOptions +Indexes</Directory></VirtualHost>
[01:12] <jimlovell777> daftykins: I think it's getting worse. It went from hard to seeming twitchy even as of late.
[01:12] <siddhion> daftykins, hey, cd / brings me to my home folder
[01:12] <daftykins> dinky: lol use pastebin.ubuntu.com
[01:12] <SoulShadow> or just pastebin.com
[01:12] <daftykins> siddhion: sounds like you're locked in a chroot
[01:13] <tigertv69> anyone
[01:13] <tigertv69> basically let me give senario: i want to do ftp transfers on my ubuntu server... i have my laptop with mye.. i setup Xming.. and do the X to start the transfers.. working great.. then i need to go out.. i bring my laptop with me.. ... when i come back home i connect back to my server and want the files to still be downloading while i am gone.. so i log back into ssh and then the X app pops...
[01:13] <daftykins> siddhion: type "pwd" then "cd .." then "pwd" again, the path should change
[01:13] <dinky> daftykins: thanks
[01:14] <siddhion> daftykins, pwd says I am in '/' dir. then I do cd .. and pwd again and i still get '/' as my dir
[01:14] <daftykins> ah, you are in root then ;)
[01:14] <daftykins> siddhion: so "ls"
[01:14] <daftykins> you're in the very top of the file system, aka root, aka /
[01:15] <siddhion> daftykins, right but I would like to get to 'File System' folder to get to the 'usr' folder
[01:15] <dinky> Sorry folks, noob here at xchat, I've just used pastebin, what do I do next?
[01:15] <DualProxy> Is there anyway to launch two commands at the same time? I have tried cmd1; cmd2 , but it waits for cmd1 to finish.
[01:15] <siddhion> daftykins, just getting back into Ubunutu and I am quite rusty
[01:15] <tigertv69> nybody?
[01:15] <daftykins> dinky: just paste in the link it gave you
[01:16] <daftykins> siddhion: oh i get you, so "cd /usr"
[01:16] <dinky> daftykins: Thanks. Here's what's in the webmin.conf file: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/504226/
[01:16] <siddhion> daftykins, ahh nice
[01:17] <furryotter> I have a newb PHP Question: I'm trying to get a website up that relies heavily on php. The scripts save files to a directory so it has to have write permissions. What permissions do I have on the directories running the scripts?
[01:17] <siddhion> daftykins,  thanks! also do you know of a way I can make it so when I press TAB to autocomplete folder/file name it ignores case-sensativity?
[01:17] <daftykins> siddhion: no sorry, good practice to get used to it :)
[01:17] <daftykins> dinky: hmm, have you tried restarting apache since you installed webmin? i've never used it before to be honest
[01:17] <siddhion> daftykins, ok. thanks
[01:18] <dinky> daftykins: yeah, no luck.
[01:18] <tensorpudding> furryotter: our telepathy is not powerful enough to glean the permissions of directories on your machine
[01:18] <dinky> daftykins: thanks for trying to help, I'll have a go elsewhere. Cheers.
[01:18] <furryotter> tensorpudding: lol nice. I mean does the directory have to have the same persmissions as the apache user
[01:18] <daftykins> dinky: no problem, gl! i'd imagine that 'site' isn't enabled properly in the config
[01:18] <daftykins> doh
[01:19] <tensorpudding> furryotter: if you're using mod_php I think so
[01:21] <tensorpudding> furryotter: it just has to be able to have the apache user able to write to it, it doesn't have to be owned by the apache user
[01:21] <furryotter> tensorpudding: Do I have to enable the php mod in my site?
[01:22] <furryotter> tensorpudding: the website itself is going to fetch files from another site when they click a button. so I think it's actually apache writing to the directory and not the user himself.
[01:23] <Kurdistan> why is nvidias closed drivers slower in maverick then lucid?
[01:23] <Spaztic_One> OK, so I've been fighting this for a bit and have made no progress thus far. I am trying to access a winxp machine from my 10.04 laptop, and access the laptop via the winxp machine, as well as share a printer that is located on the windows computer. I had file sharing working fine before, but it is not currently. What do I need to do to get things functioning properly again?
[01:23] <tensorpudding> furryotter: that's what i mean, the owner of the apache process
[01:23] <tensorpudding> furryotter: i think that's www-data by default
[01:23] <Kurdistan> why do I have problem to create bootable usb with maverick but not lucid?
[01:24] <Nextop> DualProxy:
[01:24] <furryotter> tensorpudding: you're right! I'm looking at config file and it has user www-data group web
[01:24] <Nextop> DualProxy: try cmd1 && cmd2
[01:24] <furryotter> tensorpudding: so the directory would have to have permissions for www-data and web to r/w, correct?
[01:24] <Nextop> that hsould run 2 commands at the same time
[01:24] <Ryen> Kurdistan: Why do you want to install Maverick?
[01:25] <DualProxy> Nextop: Same issue, it waits for an exit of 0
[01:25] <Kurdistan> Ryen I tried it out
[01:25] <Kurdistan> and installed it on usb stick
[01:26] <Kurdistan> I have download lucid iso and others
[01:26] <Kurdistan> both with unetbootin and usb-creator on ubuntu
[01:26] <Kurdistan> no luck
[01:26] <Nextop> DualProxy: well you can just run cmd in the background eg: cmd1 &; cmd2 &; (that should run both in the background)
[01:26] <DualProxy> Nextop: *Solved* (cmd1 &);(cmd2 &)
[01:27] <tensorpudding> furryotter: yeah
[01:27] <Ryen> Kurdistan: But my question still remains, why do you want to install Maverick. If Lucid works, then you should be using the most current release.
[01:27] <Nextop> :p
[01:27] <furryotter> tensorpudding: thank you
[01:27] <Kurdistan> Ryen I am restless
[01:28] <Nextop> Kurdistan: Maverick/10.10 support in #ubuntu+1
[01:28] <Kurdistan> Nextop what?
[01:29] <Ryen> !10.10 | Kurdistan
[01:29] <Kurdistan> I know what maverick is
[01:29] <Ryen> Kurdistan: This channel is for Lucid and earlier, if you need help with Maverick, then please goto #ubuntu+1
[01:30] <Kurdistan> okey
[01:30] <SuperMiguel> so i have a mac with two SSD, I have OSX installed using RAID 0, So how can i install ubuntu using mdraid (raid 0) and osx still using raid 0??? (this is a macbook pro)
[01:31] <dludldin> i tryed to reinstall several times with different methods but somehow ubuntu has data from changes ive made when using the program and it doesn t let program start with original configuration
[01:32] <plovs> SuperMiguel why not in parallels?
[01:33] <dludldin> is there a way to say.. hello ubuntu you are under an hipnotic power... you never used this program before...?
[01:33] <malton> i have a usb drive that i need to format (right now it is ntfs --or whatever the windows file system is) but ubuntu doesn't recognize it so i can't format it.  how can i get ubuntu to see it?
[01:34] <Genie> mount?
[01:35] <Izinucs> What's available in the repos for document management.. could be local to the pc or web based?
[01:36] <Fableflame> I have a problem. I decided to open a Chromium window in a second workspace, so I would have one Chromium window in one workspace, and another in workspace 2. However, as soon as I did that, I unchecked the "use system title bar and borders" and after that my top panel and my Docky disappeared. If I mouse over where Docky is supposed to be, I get little tool tips where my applications are supposed to be, and if I click where my Ubuntu
[01:36] <Fableflame>  menu is supposed to be, I can stll see a drop down menu. How do I get my panels and Docky visible again?
[01:36] <Fableflame> sorry for the flood
[01:36] <f00bar80> how to neve put system in standby from the command line ? as from the power options it's not working
[01:36] <daftykins> malton: is it not showing up with "sudo fdisk -l" ?
[01:36] <Braber01> can sombody remind me which -eq == op works with numbers in bash?
[01:37] <malton> daftykins: no, i don't see it at least
[01:37] <daftykins> malton: replug it?
[01:38] <malton> daftykins: it is a new drive i just bought it today.  i just want to format it.
[01:38] <f00bar80> i.e how to disable hibernate and standby
[01:39] <malton> daftykins: i just replugged it and it still isn't showing up
[01:40] <chaterzzzz> hi
[01:40] <daftykins> malton: check dmesg ?
[01:42] <chaterzzzz> any tool for install ?
[01:42] <Guest7873> nick mark2010
[01:43] <f00bar80> any commment
[01:43] <malton> daftykins: i think this is the most relevant part (if not let me know and i will pastebin the whole thing)  http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/HCv2HHnJ
[01:43] <Guest7873> NICK mark2010
[01:43] <daftykins> malton: just sounds like talk of an optical drive and a film being put in
[01:43] <malton> oh
[01:44] <daftykins> malton: if you plug and replug it, it should be right at the end... so "dmesg | tail" would show it
[01:44] <tigertv69> hey guys... is there another app equitable toscreen
[01:44] <daftykins> s/would/should/
[01:44] <tigertv69> but i can use with X apps
[01:44] <mark2010> I need help for GRUB with Ubuntu 10.10, just get white screen...
[01:45] <tensorpudding> tigertv69: tmux
[01:45] <tensorpudding> tigertv69: oh, with x apps
[01:45] <tensorpudding> tigertv69: no
[01:46] <tigertv69> nothing with X apps
[01:46] <tigertv69> ?
[01:46] <malton> daftykins: nope, nothing i guess
[01:46] <adriel> hi
[01:46] <adriel> i new
[01:46] <daftykins> malton: erk, possibly it's dead? are you trying on front USB ports or motherboard ones? (or is it a lappy?)
[01:46] <malton> laptop
[01:46] <adriel> i am from brasil
[01:47] <kaizen> anyone know an ubuntu equivelant of camtasia studio?
[01:47] <daftykins> !br | adriel
[01:47] <tensorpudding> !br | adriel
[01:47] <oem> hello?
[01:47] <daftykins> high five tensorpudding
[01:47] <tensorpudding> !hi | oem
[01:47] <daftykins> ^_^
[01:47] <daftykins> hi oem
[01:47] <oem> how you doing?
[01:47] <tensorpudding> hmm, where did !hi go...
[01:48] <daftykins> tensorpudding: got removed apparently
[01:48] <malton> daftykins: the last thing it records is: lo: Disabled Privacy Extensions
[01:48] <oem> i was in software manager, and thought that this looked cool, so i installed this
[01:48] <malton> ... and it is a laptop
[01:48] <mark2010> is this the room for Ubuntu 10.10 questions?
[01:48] <Ryen> !10.10 | mark2010
[01:48] <chaterzzzz> any idea for this Oct  2 02:48:14 ubuntu kernel: [28052.910056] eth0: auto-negotiating.. ??
[01:48] <daftykins> malton: hmm is the device possibly dead?
[01:49] <malton> daftykins: i guess it could be.  i just bought it today so i would like to think not but who knows
[01:50] <daftykins> malton: worked on windows though yeah?
[01:50] <malton> unfortunately (in this situation) no one is running windows so i can't see how it would react if launched in its native environment
[01:50] <daftykins> ah
[01:50] <KayAteChef> the 'script' in step 2 of this installation guide is a binary and doesn't execute even thought I gave it +x https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware/Server
[01:50] <daftykins> malton: sorry i can't be of any better help, i'd definitely try on a windows PC next
[01:51] <malton> daftykins: ok... i will see if i can hunt one down. thanks for the help.
[01:51] <daftykins> KayAteChef: did you extract first? it's a .tar.gz
[01:51] <chaterzzzz> how can I update the kernel ? plx
[01:51] <daftykins> chaterzzzz: sudo apt-get install linux
[01:51] <KayAteChef> I didn't realise the script was a tar.gz
[01:52] <KayAteChef> the vmware release is
[01:52] <furryotter> where can I find apache logs?
[01:52] <KayAteChef> but the script is meantt o be .sh
[01:52] <chaterzzzz> daftykins, I have linux installed
[01:52] <daftykins> furryotter: /var/log/apache2
[01:52] <furryotter> thank you
[01:52] <daftykins> KayAteChef: there's a .sh inside it
[01:52] <chaterzzzz> ubu, but i need know if I need update something more manualy
[01:53] <Spaztic_One> OK, so I've been fighting this for a bit and have made no progress thus far. I am trying to access a winxp machine from my 10.04 laptop, and access the laptop via the winxp machine, as well as share a printer that is located on the windows computer. I had file sharing working fine before, but it is not currently. What do I need to do to get things functioning properly again?
[01:53] <chaterzzzz> furryotter, adm > succes visor??
[01:53] <KayAteChef> I have VMware-server-2.0.2-203138.i386.tar.gz AND  vmware-server-2.0.x-kernel-2.6.3x-install.sh in the same directory
[01:54] <KayAteChef> one is meant to be a  script and the other is the source tarball I assume
[01:55] <Gnea> KayAteChef: correct, in the reverse order.
[01:55] <KayAteChef> well yeah
[01:55] <daftykins> chaterzzzz: yeah that updates the package :)
[01:56] <Gnea> ?
[01:56] <KayAteChef> however ./vmware-server-2.0.x-kernel-2.6.3x-install.sh doesn't work
[01:56] <Gnea> that doesn't tell me anything.
[01:56] <KayAteChef> it says "cannot execute binary file"
[01:56] <daftykins> KayAteChef: just sign up on vmware.com and download it yourself. it's free to get server
[01:57] <Gnea> KayAteChef: are you sure you're running it right?
[01:57] <KayAteChef> well I /did/ download it
[01:57] <KayAteChef> that is why i have the tarball
[01:58] <KayAteChef> Gnea I used chmod +x vmware-server-2.0.x-kernel-2.6.3x-install.sh
[01:58] <KayAteChef> and sudo ./vmware-server-2.0.x-kernel-2.6.3x-install.sh
[01:58] <KayAteChef> no cigar
[01:59] <Gnea> KayAteChef: I see. what is the output of this command:  ls -l vmware-server-2.0.x-kernel-2.6.3x-install.sh
[01:59] <KayAteChef> -rwxr-xr-x 1 felix felix 8586 2010-10-02 09:53 vmware-server-2.0.x-kernel-2.6.3x-install.sh
[01:59] <KayAteChef> as I said...
[02:00] <KayAteChef> the strange thing here is that  vmware-server-2.0.x-kernel-2.6.3x-install.sh is a binary file
[02:00] <VisualAssassin> anyone from toronto, canada in here?
[02:00] <KayAteChef> it shouldn't be a binary
[02:00] <Gnea> KayAteChef: and what is the output of this command:  head -n1 vmware-server-2.0.x-kernel-2.6.3x-install.sh
[02:00] <KayAteChef> it should be a plaintect script
[02:00] <rww> VisualAssassin: I note that #ubuntu-ca exists :)
[02:01] <Gnea> KayAteChef: and you're believing this outright?
[02:01] <xiong> I tried to use Startup Applications -> Options -> Automatically remember.... Now I have 3 problems. *Problem #1:* On restart, my screen resolution came up the wrong size; all my windows were resized to compensate. I had to go to Display and reset the resolution. But now, various apps, such as Nautilus and Geany, "remember" the wrong geometry.
[02:01] <demonspork> how do I add a small repository that on a cd rom ISO
[02:01] <KayAteChef> �<�r�ؒ��z�O6�	v�q�1�
[02:01] <VisualAssassin> not from canada...just wanted to hassle any toronto maple leafs fans
[02:01] <KayAteChef> as I say... a binary
[02:01] <Gnea> KayAteChef: interesting... and you've ran it through the file command as well?
[02:02] <KayAteChef> nope
[02:02] <Dragon64> VisualAssassin -- I'm from Rochester, thats close!
[02:02] <KayAteChef> vmware-server-2.0.x-kernel-2.6.3x-install.sh: gzip compressed data, from Unix
[02:02] <Dragon64> lol
[02:02] <KayAteChef> a .gz
[02:02] <KayAteChef> :O
[02:02] <VisualAssassin> well if your a leafs fan ur team is getting spanked
[02:02]  * Gnea hands KayAteChef a cigar
[02:03] <Dragon64> haha, no, and I don't like the Bills neither!
[02:03] <Gnea> VisualAssassin: got anything on-topic to add to this channel?
[02:03] <VisualAssassin> ummmmmmmm
[02:03] <VisualAssassin> yeahhhhh
[02:03] <hyacinth> #join ubuntu-cn
[02:03] <Gnea> :)
[02:03] <VisualAssassin> i love ubuntu, recently converted, and i hope its faster once i upgrade the ram
[02:04] <Gnea> upgrading ram is always a good step
[02:04] <VisualAssassin> i dont want to join ubuntu-cn
[02:04] <Dragon64> it is a nice piece of work
[02:04] <VisualAssassin> yeah, its already fast, but i do need to upgrade my memory to two gigs
[02:04] <VisualAssassin> this machine im running now i had vista on, and i said screw this, i couldnt even use it, so i installed ubuntu
[02:05] <SuperMiguel> any of you guys know if rEFIt supports 2 Hard Drive?
[02:05] <Gnea> if I could get my wifi to work, I'd get my home system to get a working GUI on it to work with the 4G in it
[02:05] <xiong> Okay, well, no takers on #1... moving on... *Problem #2:* After reboot, all previously open windows open in virtual desktop 1 -- the upper left. I have 8.
[02:05] <Gnea> VisualAssassin: nice choice. I never gave vista the time of day after I learned how much like windows ME it turned out to be.
[02:06] <Dragon64> xiong, sounds like you saved your session on shutdown
[02:06] <Dragon64> its a setting
[02:06] <xiong> Dragon64, Correct.
[02:06] <VisualAssassin> i got this machine cheap a few years ago and i had the dough to spend so i did...bad investment
[02:06] <teage> can anyone tell me why virtualbox will not compile under lucid?
[02:06] <erkan^> have Launchpad.net a Dutch manual? :S
[02:06] <Gnea> VisualAssassin: well, maybe on the software end, but if the hardware is still running strong I wouldn't say anything bad about it
[02:06] <xiong> I tried to use Startup Applications -> Options -> Automatically remember....
[02:06] <rgenthner> has anyone gotten a ATI card and Nvidia work in the same xorg config?
[02:07] <VisualAssassin> yeah thats what i mean...hardware is good....VISTA BLOWSSS
[02:07] <Gnea> :)
[02:07] <xiong> Dragon64, Can this be fixed?
[02:07] <Dragon64> so you want it shut off, or your app windows spread to different desk tops?
[02:07] <VisualAssassin> the computer looked sleek to ya know thats another reason i bought it
[02:07] <Dragon64> i think let me check my system here
[02:07] <lucius> hi guys
[02:08] <Gnea> the only way a computer looks sleek to me is via the specs, so I'm kind of guessing that's what you're referring to, and less about physical glare
[02:08] <KayAteChef> daftykins, Gnea, thanks for youe help
[02:08] <xiong> Dragon64, I want my windows to come up in the desktops where they were previously. I think I don't want to use "Automatically Remember..."; I turned that off. I can press the remember-now button when I want it.
[02:08] <Gnea> KayAteChef: cheers
[02:08] <VisualAssassin> no physical glare....im a looks kind of guy. I usually buy shit if it looks good, but having good specs is just as important
[02:08] <Dragon64> hmmm not sure about that, I dont think it is very sophisticated, but let me see
[02:09] <soadfreak15> hey everyone
[02:09] <felon> hi
[02:09] <xiong> I think it may just be overwhelming to try to relaunch all previously running apps. Better to manually save the important ones.
[02:09] <soadfreak15> i need help booting off a usb
[02:10] <Ryen> !ask | soadfreak15
[02:10] <xiong> soadfreak15, I can't actually help but I'll say that I tried to do that. Note that this is hardware dependent; my particular machine just won't boot USB, no matter what.
[02:10] <Guest70413> hi
[02:10] <Ryen> !hi | Guest70413
[02:11] <soadfreak15> i try booting off a usb and i get the ubuntu with the orange dots like its loading but then the screen goes black then white and changes colors from red to green to blue then grey and starts again and wont go anywhere else
[02:11] <Ryen> They keep taking out commands without updating.. Guest70413, how can I help you?
[02:11] <Guest70413> my English is very poor
[02:12] <Ryen> Guest70413: What language do you speak?
[02:12] <soadfreak15> ?
[02:12] <IdleOne> !cn | Guest70413
[02:12] <xiong> Well, let's try another. *Problem #3, still related to the session manager:* After reboot, I think all my onscreen text -- everywhere -- panels, window titles, contents, the whole shooting match -- is not quite right. All text appears just a bit blurry, maybe a little too bold. I checked Appearance -> Fonts.
[02:12] <Guest70413> Chinese
[02:13] <Guest70413> get it,thank you
[02:13] <IdleOne> welcome
[02:13] <soadfreak15> i try to run ubuntu from my usb it starts up a looks like its loading but the screen goes black then white and keeps changing colors
[02:13] <evon> is it possible to embed linux into your motherboard yourself so you have a system that boots into an OS that allows you to just surf the net
[02:13] <evon> ?
[02:14] <demonspork> I am having trouble adding a file:// repository for a disk of HP stuff. The actual path to the files are pool/jaunty/8.25/non-free, but when I set up the repository with /path/ jaunty non-free, it skips the 8.25 directory that everything is nested in
[02:14] <soadfreak15> any help would be appreciated
[02:14] <demonspork> I know it is for an old version, but I still need to use the things in it
[02:14] <Datz> Hi, I just tried to get some updates from the update manager, and it says that some software cannot be authenticated.
[02:14] <soadfreak15> anyone?
[02:15] <Datz> linux-image-2.6.32-25-generic
[02:15] <dugger5688> evon: yes, but afaik you can't do it yourself. ASUS makes/made some boards with simple web browsers based on linux
[02:15] <IdleOne> Datz: did you edit sources.list by hand and add a PPA?
[02:15] <Datz> is one of the "software packages" that cannot be authenticated/
[02:16] <Datz> IdleOne: I don't believe so.
[02:16] <Dragon64> xiong, did you check the file .gconfd called saved state?
[02:16] <IdleOne> Datz: can you pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list please
[02:16] <Datz> sure
[02:16]  * xiong looks
[02:17] <Dragon64> should be /home/xiong/.gconfd/saved_state
[02:17] <coolness> why r u guys using ubuntu? xd
[02:17] <teage> i will try linux image 2.6.33 and if that dont work its back to karmic
[02:17] <soadfreak15> i put ubuntu 10.04.1 on a usb and boot it and select run it from the usb and it starts up and i get the ubuntu logo but then the screen goes blank then the whole screen is white then red then green then blue etc then it starts again and goes nowhere
[02:17] <Ryen> !ot | coolness
[02:17] <Datz> IdleOne: it would be one thing if it were some Random package that couldn't be authenticated, but it's the linux kernel image., never the less I'll pastebin. ;)
[02:17] <Soraya> Guys Where can i get maps for a gps app ?
[02:18] <evon> dugger5688: so i'm guess i'm stuck with trying to add browserlinux to grub2
[02:18] <soadfreak15> ???
[02:18] <evon> dugger5688: thanks for the response
[02:18] <xiong> Well, Dragon64, I'm looking at it. It seems to contain a lot of ascii-hex. Not particularly informative?
[02:18] <Gnea> coolness: because it works.
[02:18] <IdleOne> Datz: I am just wondering what the source of the package is, if it is a PPA you may just need to add the key
[02:18] <Dragon64> well i see mention of many apps and their screen assignments
[02:19] <teage> Datz, i am reading that many problems with lucid can be solved by upgrading to kernel 2.33, may be something you might look into
[02:19] <IdleOne> no need for that
[02:19] <IdleOne> least I don't think so in this case
[02:20] <Dragon64> wait i think i found it one sec
[02:20] <lilpod> install issue with zoneminder and dpkg, how do I rectify this http://pastebin.com/EcS4XnDP please ignore autokey-gtk entries
[02:20] <ubuntu> Hi
[02:20] <Datz> teage, IdleOne. I may just continue with the upgrade.
[02:20] <teage> correction! Datz, 2.6.33
[02:20] <ubuntu> Hi im newbie to ubuntu
[02:20] <xiong> Guys, let's try to get rid of me a bit faster. Whatever issues I ran into with the default session manager, I don't think I like. Can I use another tool?
[02:20] <msavoury> hi ubuntu
[02:20] <ubuntu> how to reinstall grub after i load xp?
[02:20] <IdleOne> Datz: I don't think it will hurt anything.
[02:21] <soadfreak15> i cant get ubuntu to run
[02:21] <IdleOne> ubuntu: what version of ubuntu?
[02:21] <Gnea> !grub | ubuntu
[02:21] <Datz> IdleOne: yea, I didn't think so, but was just curious, thanks
[02:22] <lilpod> iS theRe a uBUNTU help guide for zoneminder?
[02:22] <oak2278> Just installed 10.4 UNR. My panel randomly disappears and i have to logout/in to get it back.. doesnt seem to be hidden as a mouseover still shows options and i can click where things should be
[02:23] <st__> oak2278, turn off composition
[02:23] <xiong> That is, unless I'm mistaken, Ubuntu uses xsm by default. Can I change this?
[02:23] <soadfreak15> screen flashes different colors when trying to run ubuntu from usb doesnt do anything after that...any help?
[02:23] <oak2278> not familiar is that an irc request or related to my issue
[02:23] <Dragon64> yeah nope
[02:24] <Dragon64> soadfreak15 -- which version of ubuntu? latest 10.4
[02:24] <soadfreak15> yeah
[02:24] <Dragon64> what kind of video card you have?
[02:25] <soadfreak15> xgi volari xp5 on a dell inspiron 5160 laptop
[02:25] <Dragon64> this should be an easy one, as soon as the boot menu comes up hit the escape key and exit to the command line
[02:26] <Dragon64> from there type live xforcevesa
[02:26] <Dragon64> and hit enter
[02:26] <Dragon64> should put you in safe video mode basically
[02:26] <Blasian> how to hack computer
[02:26] <Dragon64> from there you can do what you want
[02:26] <soadfreak15> ok ill try it
[02:26] <soadfreak15> thanks
[02:26] <Dragon64> np
[02:26] <cjae> if a create an lvm with a disk that that info on it even though I used the same filesystem that stuff is gone now right
[02:26] <soadfreak15> if it doesnt work ill come back on here
[02:26] <IdleOne> Blasian: we don't do that. Please ask somewhere else
[02:26] <Dragon64> ok
[02:27] <msavoury> you hack computers by replying to all spam and giving them all/any information they ask for
[02:30] <Datz> msavoury: I think you mean computers hack you :p
[02:31] <Datz> Linux ubuserv 2.6.32-25-server #44-Ubuntu SMP Fri Sep 17 21:13:39 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[02:32] <Datz> seems I'd have to upgrade to 10.10 to get kernel 2.6.33 without manual installation...
[02:32] <Datz> ubottu echo hi
[02:32] <donvito2> http://www.jirp.nl/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/screenshot.png
[02:32] <st__> why would you want experimental kernel ons erver in 1st place?
[02:32] <donvito2> how can i make my icons down there just like in the picture below please http://www.jirp.nl/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/screenshot.png
[02:32] <Datz> I wouldn't
[02:33] <Datz> st__: anyway, latest stable is later than that one.
[02:33] <paulo> #linux
[02:33] <swex> hey
[02:33] <donvito2> how can i make my icons down there just like in the picture below please http://www.jirp.nl/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/screenshot.png
[02:34] <swex> anyone can help me
[02:34] <msavoury> ask your question
[02:34] <st__> lol why people like make screenshots with conky showing various rubbish?
[02:34] <swex> usb mouse and keyboadr dies when I booting my pc,
[02:34] <swex> then when I unplug-plug they are starts to work
[02:34] <swex> wtf?
[02:34] <Dragon64> swex try turning on legacy usb in the bios
[02:35] <paulo> #ubuntu brasil
[02:35] <Dragon64> some mobos have it some dont
[02:35] <Datz> !pt | paulo
[02:35] <IdleOne> paulo: /join #ubuntu-br
[02:35] <swex> I've cached this bug dnt know how
[02:35] <Queef> I am trying to mount my external cd/dvd-rw and i cant locate it in /etc/fstab, can anyone help http://paste.ubuntu.com/504258/
[02:36] <swex> Dragon64, thx
[02:36] <Datz> Queef: find it in /dev
[02:36] <Datz> Queef: then either mount it from there, or make an entry for it in fstab
[02:37] <Queef> Datz : thank you
[02:37] <Dragon64> Queef, yes, /dev or if you see more than one device scan through dmesg for the messages generated when it was found, should tell you what it is
[02:37] <f00bar80> i'm on ubuntu 10.04 , i'm asking how to disable system standby/hibernate from command line for gnome,
[02:37] <st__> !pm | donvito2
[02:39] <PrimeRad> I just wanted to let everyone know I did some legwork and determined after a lot of site searches that perhaps gtalk (google talk) does not have chat rooms.
[02:39] <Queef> Dragon64 : it says ufw block
[02:39] <st__> so?
[02:39] <Dragon64> does it give a device id somewhere near that at all?
[02:39] <PrimeRad> I just that if might be informative.
[02:40] <f00bar80> any comment ?!!
[02:40] <Dragon64> like /dev/scd0?
[02:40] <PrimeRad> I feel bad now.
[02:41] <almoxarife> when restoring the desktop involving installing pckgs how do I insure I install every package previously there, is there a catch all apt-get install command line that would include everything, and I understand that all the ppa's/sources would have to be avail??
[02:43] <ruser> IS there a guide to using network-manager
[02:43] <Dragon64> apt get has a cpmmand to generate a list of installed packages I think for just that sort of thing
[02:43] <Ashok> heyyyyyyyy
[02:43] <Ashok> whats up buddies
[02:43] <ruser> IS there a guide to using network-manager
[02:43] <lilpod> !zoneminder | lilpod
[02:43] <ruser> someone said dpkg had it
[02:43] <mark2010> JOIN ubuntu1
[02:43] <ruser> How do I get network-manager to recognize my DSL modem?
[02:43] <ruser> NETWORK MANAGER
[02:44] <ruser> people
[02:44] <Dr_Willis> !dsl
[02:44] <ruser> IT worked before, now it's not recognizing it
[02:44] <Datz> IdleOne: I think the problem may have come from installing vmware tools
[02:44] <mark2010> join ubuntu1
[02:45] <Dr_Willis> mark2010:  you mean '/join #ubuntu+1'  ?
[02:45] <ruser> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[02:45] <ruser> So
[02:45] <coz_> :)
[02:45] <mark2010> yes
[02:45] <ruser> What's a good way to test out why it's not working?
[02:45] <ruser> I even tried modprobe 8139too
[02:45] <Ashok> cooool
[02:46] <Dr_Willis> 8139too is a network card module. Those things should be gettting loaded automatically for the most part.
[02:46] <ruser> it did after I typed that
[02:46] <ruser> I guess I could format my drive and reinstall linux
[02:46] <ruser> that always works
[02:47] <st__> ruser, just compile it in
[02:47] <Dr_Willis> I think ruseris a little confused....
[02:48] <msakms> greetings all, so did anyone experience the slow transfer speed to external drives??
[02:48] <Dr_Willis> If hes saying he has to load a module to get DSL working.. then.. hes found the solution..  if the module is not autoloading at bootup.. set it to autoload by hand.
[02:48] <st__> why theres no separate smp/up kernels in ubuntu?
[02:49] <Dr_Willis> msakms:  ive seen slow speeds to USB Flash drives.. but external USB hard drives worked fine..
[02:49] <Dr_Willis> st__:  i recall the last release (or 2 releases ago) they trimmed down the # of kernels.  Never paied much attention to smp or other kernel features. I would guess its built into the defaults now.
[02:49] <msakms> my external drive has an ntfs fs and it works just perfect but i get slow write speeds on my vfat thumb drive
[02:50] <Dr_Willis> msakms:  like i said.. flash drive, slower,   USB Hard drive. fine.
[02:50] <Dr_Willis> msakms:  ive not notuiced the same issue in 10.10
[02:50] <st__> msakms, i believe there are multiple bugs for it, but noone gave enough details to investigate them
[02:51] <Dragon64> hey guys, what is everyones favorite media manager for Ubuntu? Songbird, rythom box? Anything better?
[02:51] <st__> banshee the best for me
[02:51] <msakms> ok but why when i mount it manually with the async option, the speed gets boosted again
[02:51] <msakms> how can i set the async option as default
[02:51] <Dragon64> ok kool
[02:51] <f00bar80> may anybody tell me how to disable hibernate and standby , i've tried /apps/gnome-power-manager/lock general and disabled all things there and still i get screen locked , please may anybody answer me or let me know if if i'm in the wrong #, in gnome they've said settings should go into affect immediately;
[02:51] <msavoury> dragon64: rhythm box does it for me
[02:52] <st__> msakms, sudo mount -o remount,nosync XXX
[02:52] <Dragon64> what about mp3 player sync, does it do that?
[02:52] <st__> didn't pay attention to that
[02:52] <Dragon64> ok
[02:53] <chaterzzzz> any way to install all the things in synaptics ?
[02:53] <Dragon64> wow you are ambitious!
[02:53] <Dr_Willis> chaterzzzz:  clarify..   and  you dont want to install 'EVERYTHING' thats in the repositories..
[02:53] <st__> chaterzzzz, no since some of them are conflicting with each other
[02:54] <msakms> thnx <ST> i'll give it a shot and see wht happens
[02:54] <chaterzzzz> most of them, I wanna
[02:54] <Dr_Willis> chaterzzzz:  I find that doubtfull also... what are you wanting to install exactly?
[02:54] <Dr_Willis> chaterzzzz:  apt-get install  can take 'wildcards' :)
[02:55] <Dr_Willis> sudo apt-get install *-desktop *-restricted-extras
[02:55] <st__> bah seasonal aggravation I presume
[02:56] <msavoury> i wonder how much disk space that would take
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> Testing now.. flash drive does seem speedier in 10.10 - that nosync may be the default now.
[02:56] <chaterzzzz> Dr_Willis,  irregular expression
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> irregular ? eat more fiber.
[02:57] <msavoury> fiber one bars? mmm
[02:57] <chaterzzzz> just installing all restricted extras
[02:57] <nogo> no mandarin please
[02:57] <Queef> Dragon64: after trying to mount it, i got a result saying cannot read superblock
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> Tab completion also works for apt-get.
[02:58] <saml> hey, do you automatically update from multiverse, restricted, and universe?
[02:58] <saml> or main only?
[02:58] <Dr_Willis> saml:  any added repos are automatically 'updated' from.
[02:58] <Dragon64> what did you put in for mount options?
[02:58] <st__> saml, from every active repo
[02:59] <saml> from Update Manager setting, what should I check?
[02:59] <Queef> Dragon64 : i did mkdir /dev/external, then sudo mount -t
[02:59] <Dragon64> whats in the fstab?
[02:59] <Queef> i pastebin'd it
[02:59] <Dragon64> you must have added a line for the cdrom
[02:59] <Dragon64> o ok
[02:59] <Guest24148> Hello
[03:00] <Dragon64> that one, you will need to add a line for the cd in fstab
[03:00] <swex> hey
[03:00] <Guest24148> How do I change my ethernet connection from a self-assigned address to an automatically assigned address
[03:00] <chaterzzzz> not enough info in repo , bad names
[03:00] <Guest24148> using network-manager
[03:00] <swex> Dragon64, looks like I found why i loosing usb mouse and keyboard while system boots
[03:00] <Queef> http://paste.ubuntu.com/504263/
[03:01] <lynx__> How do I change my ethernet connection from a self-assigned address to an automatically assigned address, using network-manager
[03:01] <Dragon64> Queef, there is no line for cd rom there, need to add one
[03:01] <st__> lynx__, dhclient
[03:01] <swex> somebody plz help
[03:01] <Dragon64> whats that swex
[03:01] <swex> http://paste.ubuntu.com/504265/
[03:01] <lynx__> what do I do, type dhclient?
[03:01] <swex> usbcore: deregistering interface driver usbhid
[03:02] <swex> this message in log
[03:02] <swex> why?
[03:02] <Queef> Dragon64: how so
[03:02] <Queef> i know with gedit, but what do i add
[03:02] <lynx__> what do I do
[03:03] <Dragon64> one sec
[03:03] <st__> sudo dhclient I believe
[03:03] <lynx__> maybe it's my DSL modem that is the problem
[03:03] <Dragon64> Queef something like this
[03:03] <lynx__> but I doubt it, it works
[03:03] <Dragon64> /dev/hdb /media/cdrom iso9660 defaults 0 0
[03:03] <lynx__> but I doubt it, it works on another computer
[03:04] <Dragon64> btw i didnt see your cdrom in the screenshot
[03:04] <Dragon64> no clue swex
[03:04] <Dragon64> that is annoying isnt it?
[03:04] <tejas> hello everyone, does anyone have any exsperience with getting the realtek drivers to work
[03:04] <st__> in network manager just change type to dhjcp
[03:04] <swex> Dragon64, yep
[03:04] <lynx__> No DHCPOFFERS received.
[03:04] <lynx__> No working leases in persistent database - sleeping.
[03:05] <swex> I just have to replug both devices after boot to get them to wok
[03:05] <swex> work
[03:05] <st__> lynx__, so there's no dhcp servers in your network
[03:05] <lynx__> I guess now
[03:05] <lynx__> I guess not
[03:05] <lynx__> network-manager worked just fine before
[03:05] <lynx__> There's no man page for it
[03:06] <Queef> Dragon64 : ok, i added that line
[03:06] <Dragon64> did you edit in the correct device and all
[03:06] <lynx__> not really
[03:06] <lynx__> because I don't know where I should
[03:06] <lynx__> I guess I could do lsof
[03:06] <lynx__> and find out what config file it reads from
[03:07] <nogo> ?
[03:07] <swex> anybody pls: do u have this line in your /var/syslog
[03:07] <swex> ?
[03:07] <swex> usbcore: deregistering interface driver usbhid
[03:07] <icarus-c> lynx__, /etc/NetworkManager  maybe
[03:08] <icarus-c> lynx__, between, have you check the log
[03:08] <nogo> lynx__: look into your /var/lib/dhcp3
[03:08] <lynx__> so
[03:08] <nogo> lynx__: so you can read the log
[03:09] <nogo> lynx__: the log of dhclient
[03:09]  * icarus-c meant to say the log of networkmanager... but never mind
[03:09] <Takeasy> ubuntu can't recognize my display card
[03:10] <Takeasy> how can i re-install my ubuntu
[03:10] <Takeasy> ?
[03:10] <nogo> what card?
[03:10] <lynx__> dhcdbd: message_handler: message handler not found under /com/redhat/dhcp/eth0 for sub-path eth0.dbus.get.host_name
[03:10] <lynx__> ls: cannot access /com/: No such file or directory
[03:10] <lynx__> network manager doesn't hav e a log
[03:10] <Takeasy> is there any way to bypass the display checking?"
[03:10] <lynx__> it just has this
[03:10] <FloodBot3> lynx__: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:10] <icarus-c> Takeasy, first of all, reinstalling typically isn't the (easy) way  to fix something
[03:10] <lynx__> total 12
[03:10] <lynx__> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2010-06-13 16:11 .
[03:10] <lynx__> drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 2010-06-13 16:00 ..
[03:10] <lynx__> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  874 2009-01-14 03:42 01ifupdown
[03:10] <FloodBot3> lynx__: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:10] <lynx__> ok
[03:10] <Takeasy> icarus-c: yes,i know
[03:11] <icarus-c> Takeasy, what video card(s) you got?
[03:11] <Takeasy> my computer installed windows and xubuntu
[03:11] <Takeasy> hold on
[03:11] <Wakko10Warner> Check out: http://tieve.tk/ : we could use some more soldiers ... to fight against the DMCA ...
[03:11] <nogo> lynx__: are you using ubuntu....
[03:11] <icarus-c> Takeasy, you may get the information by  command "lspci"
[03:11] <nogo> sudo lspci -vvv
[03:12] <icarus-c> that gives way more than enough info
[03:12] <nogo> i don't need it
[03:12] <nogo> i use the gui app to read all details
[03:12] <nogo> just one click
[03:13] <icarus-c> Takeasy, lspci | grep VGA
[03:13] <Takeasy> ?
[03:13] <icarus-c> nogo, want to compare the time it takes to run  "lspci | grep VGA" with  the gui one  :P
[03:13] <Takeasy> i'm using an IBM X40 notebook
[03:13] <nogo> Takeasy: you are lucky if you are using a ati card
[03:13] <icarus-c> Takeasy, enter the above command  in a terminal
[03:13] <icarus-c> !terminal | Takeasy
[03:13]  * nogo runs
[03:14] <Takeasy> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02)
[03:14] <nogo> Takeasy: your thinkpad has a dedicated site maintained by pandas
[03:15] <RJ_F1> are you sure its not monkeys?
[03:15] <icarus-c> Takeasy, what makes you think that ubuntu doesn't detect your card?
[03:15] <nogo> no, pandas
[03:15] <nogo> pandas stole your skills then put it onto their site
[03:15] <Rotham> ugh
[03:15] <RJ_F1> oh, ok. just checking
[03:15] <Rotham> hey
[03:15] <Takeasy> when i insert the ubuntu installation disc, it goes black screen
[03:15] <nogo> ha ha
[03:16] <Rotham> will RAR files work alright if i specify 500mb parts?
[03:16] <Rotham> im trying to break up an 18gb file
[03:16] <Dragon64> take easy one sec
[03:16] <Rotham> I did 25mb parts first and it was taking forever :/
[03:16] <nogo> what file can be 18gb in size?
[03:16] <Takeasy> i can't get through the display card checking
[03:16] <Rotham> a vdi file
[03:16] <Rotham> lol
[03:16] <Rotham> virtual disk :P
[03:17] <nogo> crap
[03:17] <Dragon64> this should be an easy one, as soon as the boot menu comes up hit the escape key and exit to the command line
 from there type live xforcevesa
 and hit enter
[03:17] <st__> Rotham, it should
[03:17] <Rotham> ok cool
[03:17] <Soraya> hi guys
[03:17] <Dragon64> thats for you takeasy
[03:17] <Rotham> thanks :)
[03:17] <Takeasy> hold on
[03:18] <Soraya> is there anything like desktop fences out there for linux
[03:18] <icarus-c> Soraya, what does it do
[03:18] <icarus-c> Soraya, group icons on desktop?
[03:18] <Takeasy> Dragon64: what in the boot menu?
[03:18] <icarus-c> Soraya, KDE does that
[03:19] <Soul_Eater> what is the name of the package for command source?
[03:19] <Dragon64> you need to exit from the boot menu and get to the command line
[03:19] <Soraya> icarus-c, Any How To
[03:19] <Dragon64> so hit the escape key
[03:19] <Dragon64> then type
[03:19] <icarus-c> Soraya, you have to use KDE instead of GNOME
[03:19] <Takeasy> ok, Dragnslcr
[03:19] <Dragon64> live xforcevesa
[03:20] <Takeasy> ok, Dragon64
[03:20] <Takeasy> actually,my problem is that i can't hear sound in xubuntu
[03:20] <Takeasy> but i can hear sound in windows in the same notebook
[03:20] <icarus-c> Soraya, apt-get install kubuntu-desktop  i suppose
[03:21] <Takeasy> that's why i'm going to reinstall xubuntu
[03:21] <nogo> Takeasy: you are lack of a driver for a inner device
[03:21] <Soraya> icarus-c, Yes is something like Kubuntu
[03:21] <Soraya> ok thanks
[03:21] <nogo> Takeasy: is the sound chip a ac97 codec?
[03:22] <Takeasy> nogo: how to confirm it?
[03:22] <nogo> Takeasy: my new toy uses new intel hda so there is no such issues
[03:22] <Takeasy> i think it is
[03:22] <icarus-c> Soraya, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE
[03:22] <icarus-c> Soraya, personally i don't even use desktop shortcut/icon :P
[03:22] <Takeasy> AC97
[03:22] <nogo> Takeasy: i think so
[03:22] <Takeasy> how to solve it?
[03:23] <nogo> Takeasy: modprobe the correct driver
[03:23] <Takeasy> if i can solve the sound problem , it's good to not re-install :D
[03:23] <Soraya> icarus-c, is a very personal PC,i like shortcuts for fast working around the clock
[03:23] <nogo> Takeasy: it's the problem of the smbus
[03:24] <nogo> Takeasy: check out your smbus and i2c
[03:24] <Takeasy> how to check?
[03:24] <nogo> ...
[03:24] <rypervenche> Is anyone available to help me with something?
[03:24] <Takeasy> sorry i'm new to this
[03:24] <nogo> Takeasy: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki
[03:24] <nogo> Takeasy: pandas will teach you
[03:25] <Injection33> rypervenche, what's gonig on?
[03:25]  * nogo kicks all thinkpad users to pandas site
[03:27] <icarus-c> Soraya, i got keyboard shortcuts for all commonly used app. and a file browser sitting on workspace 4 all the time :P
[03:27] <rypervenche> Injection33, I put Final Fantasy 7 on my Ubuntu Lepid and it works just fine with Wine. However I wanted to change it to the Chinese version and I know how to do that, but by replacing the ff7.exe it changes the settings. I basically need to know how to open up exe files. Does anyone know how I can do that? It's not a self-extracting zip file so I can't do it with unzip.
[03:28] <xbonesx> looking for a good xml file editor, any recommendations?
[03:28] <soreau> xbonesx: gedit?
[03:28] <soreau> ! IDE
[03:28] <Soraya> icarus-c, u most be a pro on this computers,,,im so new i steel smell line babypowder
[03:28] <Injection33> rypervenche, what do you mean open exe?
[03:29] <xbonesx> soreau: gedit doesnt compile the file nicely, i want somthing that will organize it for a nice viewing
[03:29] <xbonesx> soreau: rather than all text
[03:29] <soreau> xbonesx: I personally like geany, if not anything more than a syntax highlighting editor
[03:29] <Soraya> icarus-c, i found screenlets,im scare that KDE make my pc look like Kubuntu
[03:29] <nogo> you lost bluefish
[03:29] <xbonesx> geany ok ill check it out
[03:30] <rypervenche> Injection33, I'm not quite sure. I know people create exe files and I'd like to see what is inside it. There is something that has been changed and I need to change and edit it.
[03:30] <soreau> xbonesx: You can select the file type in geany>Document>Set Filetype>Markup Languages>XML if it does not automatically detect the file type (because your xml file is lacking proper heading)
[03:31] <xbonesx> ok
[03:31] <nogo> rypervenche: is that legal?
[03:31] <st__> rypervenche, hex editor, binary diff utility, disassembler etc
[03:31] <rypervenche> No clue.
[03:31] <nogo> rypervenche: you need a debugger
[03:31] <st__> nogo, yes, if it's singleplayer game
[03:32] <nogo> st__: for x86?
[03:32] <st__> what for x86?
[03:32] <nogo> x86 machines
[03:33] <Injection33> rypervenche, if you can't open an exe file you probably dont' have the know how to edit and recompile it
[03:33] <rypervenche> Injection33: that is correct ><
[03:33] <st__> traitors, all of you
[03:33] <nogo> Injection33: i think, he just wants to modify some static values
[03:33] <nogo> Injection33: game hacking
[03:35] <rypervenche> nogo: I need to compare the two exe files that I have and see where they differ. One works with the Chinese version on Windows just fine, but it doesn't work with my custom graphics renderer, so I need to kind of mix the two accordingly.
[03:37] <winterelf> hi there..does anybody know of a good way yo display cpu information on desktop ?
[03:37]  * nogo runs...
[03:37] <rypervenche> nogo: Basically I have the official English version exe, and then a patched Chinese version. However, to get the English version to work on Linux, I needed some customized files.
[03:38] <nogo> rypervenche: i don't want to waste my time on this
[03:38] <rypervenche> I suppose my question is a bit too ....odd.
[03:38] <rypervenche> nogo: Fair enough.
[03:38] <nogo> don't buy chinese version of games
[03:39] <rypervenche> nogo: I didn't. I am learning Mandarin and it has been a great way to help my learning.
[03:39] <nogo> that's your problem
[03:39] <nogo> we don't need mandarin so far
[03:40] <rypervenche> nogo: we?
[03:40] <nogo> in fact, i am suffering to abandon all my mandarin knowledge
[03:40] <nogo> s/to/in
[03:40] <rypervenche> nogo: ....you do that.
[03:40] <nogo> it's like poison
[03:41] <pc_> im haveing a hard time finding my atalanis plugin i upgraded my ubuntu and now i cant remember how to reinstal it its been years i reay need a hand
[03:41]  * nogo burn down all mandarin books
[03:41] <pc_> i was useing ubuntu 8 now im on ubuntu 10
[03:43] <pc_> any 1 have or have had the extra plugins for compiz
[03:43] <soreau> ! anyone | pc_
[03:44] <pc_> how do i install the compiz plugins for the atlantis fish tank cube :)
[03:44] <bazhang> !ot | nogo
[03:44] <streakingdisplay> When I boot into ubuntu (live cd, post install, kde, gnome) the display comes up as a bunch of streaked lines. I need some info on the pieces and terms involved in display to try and troubleshoot. The only way I can seem to interact with the install is through the text recovery console through the alternative install disk. (the grub boot recovery option has the same problem) Any ideas?
[03:45] <dsnyders> Hi all, my clock is wrong, and ntpdate cannot reach a valid server because the socket is in use.
[03:45] <soreau> pc_: Ask in #compiz please
[03:45] <soreau> pc_: We can help you more with that there
[03:45] <gnubuntu> Does an Ubuntu installation recognize other GNU/Linux OSs in the GRUB and not overwrite the MBR?
[03:46] <pc_> how do i find that room :(
[03:46] <IdleOne> pc_: type /join #compiz
[03:46] <bazhang> pc_, /join #compiz
[03:47] <dsnyders> !ntpdate
[03:47] <bobstro> gnubuntu:  it should find them and add them as options, yes. it will overwrite the mbr.
[03:47] <dsnyders> !ntp
[03:47] <lynx__> hekllo
[03:48] <gnubuntu> bobstro, thank you.
[03:52] <Blue1> what does this error mean (from /var/log/apcupsd.events) Connection from localhost.localdomain refused by tcp_wrappers.
[03:53] <bobstro> Blue1:  sounds like you've got a ups monitoring program set up, and it's being blocked in /etc/hosts.deny
[03:54] <bobstro> Blue1:  most likely a configuration error since it's trying to connect on the local machine
[03:55] <bobstro> hmmm... but have tcp wrappers been superceded in ubuntu? i'm not sure
[03:55] <Blue1> bobstro: okay I'll look thanks
[03:55] <Blue1> bobstro: i don't know this quit working about 5-6 weeks ago
[03:56] <bobstro> Blue1:  did you install any security software?
[03:56] <Blue1> bobstro: negative
[03:56] <Blue1> !pastebin | blue`
[03:58] <Blue1> bobstro: reality check me please - this is my hosts.deny -- http://paste.ubuntu.com/504285/
[03:58] <tristan_> you are blocking individual spammers?
[03:58] <bobstro> Blue1:  you're not behind a firewall? is this an exposed server?
[03:59] <lynx__> How do I make it so that my network-manager detects my cable modem
[03:59] <Blue1> bobstro: behind a router, no
[03:59] <bobstro> Blue1:  there are likely easier ways to deal with some of those issues.
[03:59] <bobstro> Blue1:  i am rusty with precedence between hosts.allow and hosts.deny. anything in allow?
[03:59] <Blue1> bobstro: well the issue is why apsupsd suddenly comes up with the tcp_wrapper error
[04:00] <bobstro> Blue1:  understood. tcpd is stopping it from connecting locally.
[04:00] <bobstro> Blue1:  why is what we're after now.
[04:00] <dugger5688> lynx__: you should just be able to plug it in. If you're behind a router then you won't really see it at all.
[04:01] <Blue1> bobstro: hosts.allow  http://paste.ubuntu.com/504287/
[04:01] <tristan_> lynx__: whos doing the routing
[04:02] <tristan_> dear Blue1
[04:02] <tristan_> I seem to remember getting this error when I was messing around with
[04:02] <tristan_> tcp wrappers. Make sure you have something like `ALL: 127.0.0.0/8' in
[04:02] <tristan_> hosts.allow (assuming you have ALL:ALL in hosts.deny!).
[04:02] <tristan_> If that doesn't help, make sure your loopback interface is up.
[04:02] <FloodBot3> tristan_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:02] <tristan_> Running `ifconfig lo' will tell you.
[04:02] <Genieliu> annel #fedora-unregistered created Fri Jan 15 14:06:01 2010
[04:02] <Genieliu> annel #fedora-unregistered created Fri Jan 15 14:06:01 2010
[04:02] <Genieliu> annel #fedora-unregistered created Fri Jan 15 14:06:01 2010
[04:02] <Genieliu> annel #fedora-unregistered created Fri Jan 15 14:06:01 2010
[04:02] <FloodBot3> Genieliu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:03] <Genieliu> Sorry
[04:03] <Blue1> tristan_: i can hadd that
[04:03] <tristan_> google recommends it.
[04:03] <tristan_> at any rate. nooooo localhost/loopback traffic should be getting dropped
[04:03] <tristan_> it exists for a real
[04:04] <lynx__> How do I make it so that my network-manager detects my cable modem
[04:04] <lynx__> How do I make it so that my network-manager detects my cable modem
[04:04] <lynx__> How do I make it so that my network-manager detects my cable modem
[04:04] <FloodBot3> lynx__: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:04] <Blue1> tristan_: fixed it - many thanks.
[04:05] <gilead> hi
[04:05] <tristan_> it was the second google hit chief.
[04:05] <Ryen> gilead: Hello, can we help you?
[04:05] <gilead> I just tried to upgrade to 10.10 and the network went down during package download. Now I can't restart the process as both update-manager -d and do-release-upgrade -d say there's no new distro available -- how to reset the state so it sees 10.10 again?
[04:06] <gilead> hi Ryen!
[04:06] <bobstro> Blue1:  are you using iptables firewall as well?
[04:06] <Ryen> !10.10 | gilead
[04:06] <Blue1> bobstro: no
[04:06] <gilead> uuh, sorry :)
[04:06] <bobstro> Blue1:  reason being that tcp wrappers do not protect everything. i recommend doing a scan of your system from the outside.
[04:06] <Ryen> gilead: No worries. :)
[04:06] <Blue1> bobstro: anyway i added the line tristin suggested, and it works fine now.
[04:07] <bobstro> Blue1:  yes, apc ups daemon does. i'm saying your protection may not be what you're expecting if only using tcp wrappers.
[04:07] <bobstro> Blue1:  (this being the voice of experience)
[04:07] <tristan_> meh
[04:07] <Blue1> bobstro: what do you reccomend then?
[04:07] <tristan_> if hes behind an isr it will be fine.
[04:07] <tristan_> or some form or nat.
[04:07] <bobstro> Blue1:  step 1 - scan from outside to BE SURE.
[04:08] <bobstro> he said no
[04:08] <Blue1> tristan_: i am behind a router
[04:08] <bobstro> Blue1:  thought you said no firewall tho?
[04:08] <Blue1> bobstro: not sure how to do that...
[04:08] <tristan_> ill nmap you.
[04:08] <bobstro> Blue1:  from an external address, run an nmap scan
[04:08] <Blue1> bobstro: no software firewall ufw disable
[04:08] <tristan_> tis a bit slow. 5 mins remaining
[04:08] <tristan_> but:
[04:08] <bobstro> Blue1:  learn how to do it. it's the only way to really KNOW your security is working.
[04:08] <Blue1> bobstro: i don't have an external address all are local machines.
[04:08] <tristan_> does your ubuntu box have a private or public address added.
[04:09] <tristan_> like a 192/172/10.* or routable
[04:09] <bobstro> Blue1:  oh? you have a lot of pulic ips in that allow file.
[04:09] <bobstro> Blue1:  er.. public
[04:09] <tristan_> ten four
[04:09] <Blue1> bobstro: well I do have an external address, but all my machines are hooked up to the router.
[04:09] <tristan_> he should be protected already.
[04:09] <tristan_> at least from the big bad world outside.
[04:09] <tristan_> shit spreading in your lan is outside the scope of this.
[04:10] <tristan_> 4 mins left
[04:10] <bobstro> tristan_:  depending on what's forwarded. it looks like some stuff is.
[04:10] <bobstro> tristan_:  surely no harm in knowing for sure, and not assuming?
[04:10] <tristan_> surely not. i am scanning him.
[04:10] <hasenj> is the open source ati driver better than the proprietry one?
[04:10] <Blue1> tristan_: i have had no problems running this way in 5 years.  only people who need ssh access can have ssh access.  ftp is an anonmous ftp so, yeah i don't think I have any security issues atm (so I say now)
[04:11] <hasenj> in other words should I switch to the open source version or am i just asking for trouble?
[04:11] <tristan_> meh. it should be fine.
[04:11] <tristan_> nat == firewall in this context
[04:11] <Blue1> tristan_: correct
[04:11] <bobstro> Blue1:  ah, i mis-read your 'behind a firewall, no' above :)
[04:12] <tristan_> almost done.
[04:12] <Blue1> bobstro: this is what nmap shows  http://paste.ubuntu.com/504291/
[04:13] <gaelfx> all my panel applets move to strange places whenever I reboot, how can I make them stay put?
[04:14] <bobstro> tristan_:  sourcing scan from port 53 might be interesting
[04:14] <tristan_> all the ports i hit are closed.
[04:14] <tristan_> registered ports only, though.
[04:14] <Genieliu> gaelfx:have you fixed it yet?
[04:14] <bobstro> Blue1:  do you run the router?
[04:15] <Blue1> gaelfx: right click on icon, and then click "lock to panel"
[04:15] <Blue1> bobstro: yes
[04:15] <bobstro> Blue1:  you don't have an "any any" rule for port 53/dns (hopefully)?
[04:15] <Genieliu> gaelfx:yes lock to the panel
[04:15] <Blue1> bobstro: nope
[04:15] <tristan_> you dont need incoming 53.
[04:16] <Blue1> tristan_: i can close that, and prolly telnet, -- all incoming port 80 traffic blocked by my isp anyway.
[04:16] <tristan_> i dont see anything open.
[04:16] <bobstro> Blue1:  are you on cox in phoenix?
[04:16] <Blue1> bobstro: yuppers
[04:17] <Blue1> bobstro: only in Tucson, not pahonics
[04:17] <bobstro> Blue1:  i was in phoenix 13 years, much of it on cox -- @home originally
[04:17] <bobstro> Blue1:  you are lucky to get cox in TUC! my buddies can only get crappy dsl.
[04:17] <Blue1> bobstro: they don't call em cox blankers for nothing...
[04:17] <tristan_> cox blankers?
[04:17] <bobstro> Blue1:  you mind if i run a scan as well?
[04:18] <Endafy> hey I have used a lot of distros, I really like Ubuntu. How come flash doesn't seem to work as well on Ubuntu 10.04.1?
[04:18] <Blue1> bobstro: no go ahead --
[04:18] <Endafy> like it works beautifully on other distros
[04:18] <nogo> ?
[04:18] <Endafy> but it skips and my audio skips as well
[04:19] <nogo> my usbkey ubuntu is fine everyday
[04:19] <nogo> no disk i/o at all
[04:19] <coz_> Endafy,  64 bit or 32 bit?
[04:20] <Blue1> nogo: I have a "ubuntu 2 go" usb drive as well
[04:20] <Endafy> I may try debian and see if things work better with debian, but I would really like for things to quit being so skippy and glitchy
[04:20] <coz_> Endafy,  debian and flash  I dont think so
[04:20] <Endafy> coz_: either or I dualboot them both
[04:20] <nogo> Blue1: but your i/o is too much and it will be dead soon
[04:20] <gaelfx> Genieliu: locking the applets to the panel does nothing, they still move and then they are locked in the wrong position once the machine starts up again
[04:21] <Blue1> nogo: naw, I use ext2 (no journaling) and changed it to realatime - works fine
[04:21] <Endafy> coz_: right now I am on an RPM based distro and im not liking how things are messed up in other areas, but I am unsure what is even wrong to begin with
[04:21] <nogo> Blue1: realtime my ...
[04:21] <Endafy> to cause it to be so glitchy on Ubuntu
[04:21] <Blue1> nogo: http://pkill-9.com/wordpress/?p=51
[04:21] <bobstro> Blue1:  i see ftp, ssh & auth. ssh is covered by your wrappers. good.
[04:21] <Blue1> yup
[04:21] <Blue1> bobstro: I tried to do the best job I know..
[04:21] <bazhang> nogo, please stay on topic
[04:22] <coz_> Endafy,  debian and flash are not going to be easy... debian - anal gpl   so I wouldnt go that route personally
[04:22] <bobstro> Blue1:  always good to KNOW. i mis-understood your response about the router, thought you were running directly exposed with no firewall.
[04:22] <Endafy> coz_ I use the Nvidia drivers, it is a gtx 260, all my hardware is up to par, 3 gig ram dual core AMD 5000+
[04:23] <bobstro> Blue1:  i've seen guys add "any any" rule allowing dns, which will bite ya.
[04:23] <TiK> coz: flash "quare" is pretty tight
[04:23] <Blue1> coz_: hey d00d.  I finally got that problem solved with the nvidia card we were working on - use a vanilla xorg.conf file.  legacy nvidia cards aren't currently supported in 10.10
[04:23] <coz_> Blue1,  understood
[04:23] <Blue1> bobstro: i don't think I did that...
[04:23] <tristan_> ive started using mplayer in place of flash.
[04:23] <bobstro> Blue1:  no, you look good. i just like to be a bit paranoid.
[04:24] <Endafy> it seems even when running MP3s and OGGs the audio skips around and it is so bothersome I cannot listen to it, I can't watch movies either for that matter, AMD with Nvidia chipset
[04:24] <bobstro> Blue1:  you've poked at ssh to test, right?
[04:24] <Blue1> bobstro: I'd be way more worried if I were running m$
[04:24] <Blue1> bobstro: yup --
[04:24] <tristan_> hm.
[04:24] <bobstro> Blue1:  true, but i always like to test if possible
[04:24] <tristan_> bobstro: howd you scan
[04:24] <Blue1> bobstro: it locks all but approved in hosts.allow out
[04:24] <tristan_> i stealth syn.
[04:24] <Endafy> I mean "sure" I could use another distro but I really like how Ubuntu does things
[04:25] <Blue1> bobstro: why I even tested at mcd to make sure I couldn't get in!  (hehe)
[04:25] <bobstro> tristan_:  i usually do -sT since stealth is so readily blocked.
[04:25] <tristan_> fair
[04:25] <tristan_> Note: Host seems down. If it is really up, but blocking our ping probes, try -PN.
[04:25] <bobstro> tristan_:  plus it sets off alarm bells (though a scan usually does anyhow)
[04:25] <tristan_> i tried that first:p
[04:25] <bobstro> tristan_:  i didn't get that!
[04:25] <tristan_> and PN returns zilch. no auth or ssh
[04:26] <nkdoodwal> my visual effects are not working
[04:26] <bobstro> tristan_:  interesting. i did use --source-port 53.
[04:26] <tejas> can anyone tell me how to fix a permission error when doing "make install"
[04:26] <Blue1> tejas: sudo make install
[04:26] <tristan_> ah. i follow.
[04:26] <gaelfx> how can I get my panel applets to stay put after reboot? locking them to panel is remarkably ineffective
[04:26] <tejas> wow i feel dumb now lol
[04:26] <Genieliu> gaelfx:try right click the icon and choose to move to the initial location and restar again
[04:27] <bobstro> tejas:  you often need to do install as root
[04:27] <Blue1> gaelfx: i answered that eons ago must have missed it -- right click on icon, then click on "lock to panel"
[04:27] <bobstro> wups- answered already.
[04:27] <gaelfx> Genieliu: I did move them initially, but problem still persists
[04:27] <gaelfx> Blue1: problem still persists....
[04:28] <Blue1> gaelfx: you are running gnome, and 10.04?
[04:29] <gaelfx> Blue1: yes
[04:29] <pksadiq> may I ask Open Office related question here?
[04:29] <Blue1> gaelfx: maybe x is setup weird?  can you do:  grep -i glx /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[04:29] <nkdoodwal> help..... my visual effects are not working
[04:30] <Blue1> gaelfx: and pastebin the output?
[04:30] <bazhang> pksadiq, #openoffice.org
[04:30] <pksadiq> k
[04:31] <gaelfx> Blue1: yeah, but it's gonna have to wait a couple minutes, I'm IRCing on a different machine
[04:31] <Blue1> gaelfx: k
[04:32] <pksadiq> bu #openoffice.org members are inactive :(
[04:33] <MooshiMuushi> Anyone here who uses a PS3 and media servers with Ubuntu?
[04:34] <nogo> ps3 is not ubuntu
[04:34] <pksadiq> but #openoffice.org members are inactive :(
[04:34] <MooshiMuushi> nogo, Haha, I know.
[04:34] <pksadiq> nogo :)
[04:34] <nogo> ooo is not ubuntu too
[04:34] <nkdoodwal> help..... my visual effects are not working
[04:34] <MooshiMuushi> nogo, I was asking if anyone here media servers to the PS3 using Ubuntu.
[04:35] <nogo> that's ps3's problem
[04:35] <coz_> nkdoodwal,  visual effects as in  compiz?
[04:35] <tejas> can someone please tell me what this means? configure: error: required curses helper header not found
[04:35] <coz_> tejas,  is that the entire readout of the error?
[04:36] <pksadiq> nkdoodwal press ALT + F2 and type compiz --replace and hit enter
[04:36] <nkdoodwal> coz_: i uninstalled compiz
[04:36] <coz_> nkdoodwal,  ok  so which "effects"  do you mean?
[04:37] <MooshiMuushi> tejas, Can you reply to coz_'s question?
[04:37] <pksadiq> sudo apt-get install compiz
[04:37] <nogo> coz_: he mean the effects which needs 3d hardware
[04:37] <tejas> im working on it mooshi
[04:37] <gaelfx> apologies for o-t, but why the heck does pastebin have to have twitter crap on their homepage?
[04:38] <soreau> ! ot | gaelfx
[04:38] <IdleOne> gaelfx: the question being ot means the answer would be also. ask pastebin
[04:38] <tejas> no its not but do you really want me copy and paste the whole thing
[04:38] <nkdoodwal> coz_: when right key of mouse press then in menu list visual effects
[04:38] <MooshiMuushi> If it's long, use pastebin.
[04:38] <MooshiMuushi> brb
[04:39] <xiong> When GNOME opens a window, it positions it in a certain way. It's not random; it seems to want to use up as much of the screen as it can. What controls this?
[04:39] <gaelfx> Blue1: http://pastebin.com/fYAtv3Tn
[04:39] <coz_> nkdoodwal,  what is your native language?
[04:39] <Prometheus> howdy, is there a place where I could find a sources.list for 10.04 server?
[04:39] <nkdoodwal> hindi
[04:39] <Blue1> gaelfx: omw
[04:39] <Prometheus> for some reason I am not able to do build-dep nginx due to sources
[04:39] <gaelfx> thanks, apologies for the delay
[04:40] <xiong> Also, is there a command-line interface to the virtual desktops, so that windows can be moved from one to another from a terminal?
[04:40] <pksadiq> nkdoodwal I'm from india
[04:40] <coz_> nkdoodwal,    मुझे यकीन है कि आप क्या सही क्लिक के साथ प्रभाव मतलब नहीं हूँ
[04:40] <tejas> coz_: its in paste bin
[04:40] <coz_> tejas,  i didnt see the pastebin link can you post it again please?
[04:40] <Blue1> gaelfx: this looks funny:  (II) NVIDIA GLX Module  260.19.06  Mon Sep 13 04:54:41 PDT 2010
[04:41] <nkdoodwal> yeah right click
[04:41] <gaelfx> funny haha or funny....?
[04:41] <nogo> pksadiq: are there many spies in your country?
[04:41] <coz_> Blue1,  what looks funny
[04:41] <tejas> http://pastebin.com/wwiKjA98
[04:41] <coz_> nkdoodwal,  सही डेस्कटॉप पर क्लिक करें?
[04:41] <Blue1> coz_: module 260?
[04:41] <nkdoodwal> but i can't understand that typical hindi
[04:41] <gaelfx> Blue1: yeah, I installed the latest driver from NVidia via PPA
[04:42] <coz_> Blue1,  that sounds like the driver version
[04:42] <coz_> tejas,  what are you compiling?
[04:42] <gaelfx> Blue1: perhaps not the brightest idea I've ever had, but it is the number of the driver version
[04:42] <Blue1> coz_: yes but I get:  (II) NVIDIA GLX Module  195.36.24  Thu Apr 22 19:52:00 PDT 2010
[04:42] <tejas> its the utilities for my sound card drivers
[04:42] <Blue1> coz_: so where did version 260 come from?
[04:42] <coz_> Blue1,   o0  from same command?
[04:43] <Blue1> coz_: yup
[04:43] <coz_> Blue1,   did you use a ppa ?
[04:43] <gaelfx> coz_: I used PPA
[04:43] <Blue1> coz_: no just standard repos
[04:43] <Blue1> gaelfx: ahh no wonder that looks funny...
[04:43] <MooshiMuushi> tejas, For me, it looks like you're missing some files.
[04:44] <coz_> Blue1,  then that is wrong  let me check my installed driver hold on
[04:44] <gaelfx> Blue1: ;) I've also been trying to get HDMI audio to work
[04:44] <MooshiMuushi> tejas, when you were compiling.
[04:44] <Blue1> coz_: thanks
[04:44] <coz_> Blue1,  the default nvidia-currnet in ubuntu lucid via jockey is 195.36.24
[04:44] <MooshiMuushi> tejas, "panel.h usability... no"
[04:44] <Chaos2358> can someone tell me how to disable the feature in ubuntu 10.04 where it remembers everything typed in a search bar? its annoying
[04:44] <coz_> Blue1,  where the  260 came from would only be if you tried to install the driver manually or used the ppa
[04:45] <pksadiq> Chaos2358 firefox?
[04:45] <coz_> tejas,  ah ok
[04:45] <gaelfx> the ironic thing is, I think my HDMI audio would work if the audio weren't built-in to the graphics card I have, i.e. if there were an SPDIF pass-through, I wouldn't be having any problems with it
[04:45] <Blue1> coz_: ahh makes sense, I got what ever came down the pike from standard repos
[04:45] <Kheops> hi
[04:45] <xangua> Chaos2358: what searchbar are you exactly talking about¿ the browser¿ set it in the browser preferences
[04:45] <Chaos2358> pksadiq not just in firefox the laptop in general
[04:46] <tejas> mooshimusshi: i have no idea what im doing really there really where no good instructions I could find to do this I just unpaked everything that was downloaded and installed everything this is the only thing that wont
[04:46] <coz_> tejas,   i would go over to both the #alsa channel and the #pulsaudio channel and ask there
[04:46] <wrekt> where are the sound settings on 10.04? are they only in system>prefs>sound? bec in my 8.10 there were many more options. im unable to get my new webcams mic working
[04:46] <Chaos2358> xangua its not just a browser its the whole pc like it remembers stuff i typed in the music folder when searching in the picture folder too
[04:46] <Kheops> I want to resize a partition and I have some data on It, It's safe to do the resizing process ?
[04:46] <MooshiMuushi> tejas, I'm guessing it asked you to do the "./configure" commands, right?
[04:47] <tejas> mooshimusshi: yes
[04:47] <Blue1> Kheops: yes, but I'd backup first.  always have a path back to the way it was, before you mess it up.
[04:47] <coz_> Blue1,  when you open   nvidia-settings    which driver is actually in use?
[04:47] <MooshiMuushi> tejas, Have you downloaded the build essential?
[04:47] <Kheops> Blue1: I can't back up 1000 GB :)
[04:47] <coz_> a terabyte?
[04:48] <Kheops> mhm
[04:48] <tejas> mooshimusshi: no clue
[04:48] <gaelfx> tejas: I'm not sure if this is what you're trying to do, but did you try installing the alsa backports module? it will get you the latest alsa, if that's what you're after
[04:48] <Chaos2358> any ideas?
[04:48] <Blue1> Kheops: then do so at your own risk
[04:48] <MooshiMuushi> tejas, copy and paste this into the terminal. "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[04:48] <Blue1> coz_: 195.36.24
[04:48] <MooshiMuushi> tejas, without the quotes.
[04:48] <Kheops> Blue1: how I must resizing ?
[04:48] <tejas> mooshimusshi: third day trying to use linux
[04:48] <Kheops> Blue1: To keep the data safe..
[04:48] <MooshiMuushi> tejas, I see.
[04:48] <coz_> Blue1,  ok  that is right....what was the origianl issue you posted?
[04:48] <Blue1> Kheops: you can use a livecd an gparted - but I'd backup the data first, but then that's me.
[04:48] <coz_> original even
[04:48] <MooshiMuushi> tejas, It takes time to get use to Ubuntu ;)
[04:49] <Blue1> coz_: you asked for version number for nvidia
[04:49] <Ageless_Stranger> will ubuntu be able to connect to the internet through a windows computer with ics on?
[04:49] <MooshiMuushi> tejas, Anyway, download the build essential.
[04:49] <Kheops> Blue1: I know that..
[04:49] <nkdoodwal> help, on every startup my computer tells that your windows manager not working and my title bar and workspace removed
[04:49] <bullgard4> In Rhythmbox I made a playlist for an album, but the titles appear in it in an inverted order. How can I fix that?
[04:49] <Kheops> Blue1: But..I asked you what is the size..that he will let me resize
[04:49] <coz_> Blue1,  ah sorry ... I think I am on way too many channels doing support  :)
[04:49] <Kheops> Blue1: All and only free memory ?
[04:49] <Blue1> Kheops: what ever you want --
[04:50] <tejas> mooshimuushi: I must have for something says 0 newly installed o upgraded
[04:50] <Kheops> Blue1: I want to take the free memory and make a new partition.
[04:50] <MooshiMuushi> tejas, hmm.
[04:50] <trism> tejas: panel.h is in libncurses5-dev
[04:50] <pksadiq> tejas also do apt-get install ncurses-dev to do make
[04:50] <Blue1> Kheops: livecd and gparted will let you resize a partition
[04:50] <Kheops> Blue1: I already know that..
[04:51] <Blue1> Kheops: sorry I am not understanding your question then.
[04:51] <nkdoodwal> help, on every startup my computer tells that your windows manager not working and my title bar and workspace removed
[04:51] <MooshiMuushi> tejas, Then I guess I don't know.
[04:51] <Kheops> Blue1:I Asked you If I will resize a partition full off data..but he has a lot of free space..
[04:51] <Kheops> Blue1: how Gpartet will act ?
[04:51] <pksadiq> nkdoodwal it was insane removing the compiz
[04:52] <Chaos2358> can someone please tell me how to get my laptop to stop remembering searches? not just in the browser but if i search something in my muci folder it gives me that as a suggestion when trying to search in other folders
[04:52] <Kheops> Blue1: That's my question..
[04:52] <icarus-c> Kheops, depends on the file system
[04:52] <MooshiMuushi> tejas, go to the channels that coz_ suggested.
[04:52] <Jon--> I get a connection refused in ChatZilla on an IRC using port 6667.. I know it's not related to Ubuntu but I figure someone could give me a quick answer. Any idea why? It opens fine on a Ubuntu laptop of mine on the same network.
[04:52] <MooshiMuushi> tejas, "i would go over to both the #alsa channel and the #pulsaudio channel and ask there"
[04:52] <Blue1> Kheops: it will resize the partition, and move data.  resizing is  VERY time consuming - can take hours....
[04:52] <nkdoodwal> pksadiq: so now??
[04:52] <Kheops> icarus-c: ext3
[04:52] <Kheops> icarus-c: only data.
[04:52] <tejas> mooshimuushi: that last one looks like its installing something
[04:53] <pksadiq> nkdoodwal reinstall compiz
[04:53] <Kheops> Blue1: I don't want to move data.
[04:53] <lun0> after 1 to 5 mins system booted the wireless logitech keyboard and mouse hangs, to computer connected reciever.
[04:53] <Blue1> Kheops: it will move what needs moving, no way to avoid it...
[04:53] <MooshiMuushi> tejas, the last one?
[04:53] <icarus-c> Kheops, typically the underly file system resize tool would move data of the region to shrink to somewhere else
[04:53] <lun0> but system keeps working
[04:53] <Kheops> Blue1:I want to take the free space from the partition..and make a new one
[04:53] <Blue1> Kheops: asked and answered.
[04:54] <Kheops> icarus-c: I don't want to move data..
[04:54] <tejas> apt-get install ncurses-dev but now I get a different error
[04:54] <icarus-c> Kheops, say you want to shrink the last 10GB,  it would move any data sitting there to somewhere else.
[04:54] <MooshiMuushi> tejas, There's is an easy way to reply. Type in "mooshi" then hit "tab".
[04:54] <MooshiMuushi> tejas, Shortcut ;)
[04:54] <Kheops> icarus-c: why he move the data, if I want to take only the free space ?!
[04:54] <Jon--> I get a connection refused in ChatZilla on an IRC using port 6667.. I know it's not related to Ubuntu but I figure someone could give me a quick answer. Any idea why? It opens fine on a Ubuntu laptop of mine on the same network.
[04:55] <icarus-c> Kheops, you don't get it... say you have a 20GB ext3 file system, even if you only have 100MB used, the data actually span across the whole file system phyiscally
[04:55] <pksadiq> tejas what's the error?
[04:55] <tejas> MooshiMuushi, thanks
[04:55] <Kheops> icarus-c: pffff
[04:55] <tejas> pksadiq, ill pastebin it one sec
[04:55] <Kheops> icarus-c: and where I will find the data ?!
[04:55] <icarus-c> Kheops, that design is to avoid file fragmentation
[04:55] <icarus-c> Kheops, you don't.  the file system handle it
[04:55] <MooshiMuushi> tejas, http://pastebin.com/wwiKjA98
[04:55] <Kheops> icarus-c: pffff but I need that data...
[04:55] <wrekt> hey does anyone know how i mite be able to get my microphone attached to logitech quckcam pro to work. the device i s listed as one that "just works" woth 10.04
[04:55] <MooshiMuushi> tejas, That was the link you gave me ;)
[04:56] <icarus-c> Kheops, the file system stuff is transparent to user
[04:56] <MooshiMuushi> pksadiq, http://pastebin.com/wwiKjA98
[04:56] <Kheops> icarus-c: I don't want to move the data..I just want to take te free space from the partition and make a new one.
[04:56] <pksadiq> tejas sorry I can't use pastbin because such sites are not well working on my slow connection and too on my browser links
[04:56] <Kheops> icarus-c: how can I do this ?
[04:56] <icarus-c> Kheops, just resize it
[04:56] <pksadiq> tejas sorry I can't use pastbin because such sites are not well working on my slow connection and too on my browser links or links2 or lunx
[04:56] <Kheops> :)))))))))))))))))
[04:56] <pksadiq> tejas sorry I can't use pastbin because such sites are not well working on my slow connection and too on my browser links or links2 or lynx
[04:56] <icarus-c> Kheops, file system handle all the underly stuff for ya
[04:57] <Kheops> icarus-c: I want my data to be clasified..
[04:57] <MooshiMuushi> tejas, right click his name and hit "Open Dialog File"
[04:57] <bazhang> Kheops, classified?
[04:57] <icarus-c> Kheops, that "move data" thingy i mentioned is done transparently within the file system,  not moving to another disk or what.
[04:57] <Kheops> yes bazhang
[04:57] <bazhang> Kheops, explain
[04:57] <nkdoodwal> pksadiq: one thing after installing ubuntu i m not able to reinstall linux/windows
[04:58] <Kheops> I don't want to spread...
[04:58] <coz_> Kheops,  you want these  password protected?
[04:58] <pksadiq> nkdoodwal can U boot windows?
[04:58] <Kheops> I want the filles remain there..and just take the free space..and do what I want to do with all this Free space.
[04:58] <nkdoodwal> pksadiq: no
[04:58] <Kheops> coz_: no
[04:59] <coz_> ok
[04:59] <coz_> I am confused
[04:59] <pksadiq> MooshiMuushi it seems you did not install libncurses5-dev
[04:59] <Kheops> All I want Is to know If I will lose some data..
[04:59] <Kheops> If I will resize..
[04:59] <Kheops> to take the free space..
[04:59]  * Blue1 stands in line behind coz_
[04:59] <bullgard4> In Rhythmbox I made a playlist for an album, but the titles appear in it in an inverted order. How can I fix that?
[04:59] <Kheops> Or I will be able to find the files..
[04:59] <bazhang> !enter | Kheops
[05:00] <icarus-c> Kheops, if you want to resize a file system, just do it.  if you wonder how it is done technically, read resize2fs documentation
[05:00] <pksadiq> nkdoodwal what is the error?
[05:00] <nkdoodwal> it doesnot load bootmanager , it start normally
[05:01] <pksadiq> nkdoodwal if you can't boot anything you may need to reinstall windows first and then ubuntu
[05:01] <Kheops> icarus-c: If I have a partition with 1000 GB and just 800 Used and 200 free and I will do a resize to take the 200 GB what it will happens ?
[05:01] <h4x07> Ryen: u there dude?
[05:01] <icarus-c> Kheops, actually the theory could be very simple.  say your file system allocates 5 blocks on disk  A,B,C,D,E  .  block A,B,D,E are used.  now you want to resize to 4 blocks (A,B,C,D)  so the data in Block E will be moved to block C
[05:02] <Jon--> I get a connection refused in ChatZilla on an IRC using port 6667.. I know it's not related to Ubuntu but I figure someone could give me a quick answer. Any idea why? It opens fine on a Ubuntu laptop of mine on the same network.
[05:02] <nkdoodwal> but problem is this i am not able to install anyone
[05:02] <Kheops> icarus-c: I see your point but on the block C It's not enough space.
[05:02] <nkdoodwal> pksadiq: but problem is this i am not able to install anyone
[05:02] <icarus-c> Kheops, um... block size are even for the whole file system
[05:02] <tejas> pksadiq, did you look at the dialog window with the paste in it?
[05:02] <icarus-c> Kheops, like 4k
[05:03] <Kheops> I see
[05:03] <Kheops> so
 icarus-c: If I have a partition with 1000 GB and just 800 Used and 200 free and I will do a resize to take the 200 GB what it will happens ?   <--  your file system will be shrinked by about 200GB  :)
[05:03] <Kheops> :)
[05:03] <nkdoodwal> pksadiq: it doesnot take boot from cd/dvd/usb
[05:03] <pksadiq> tejas also install gettext
[05:04] <pksadiq> nkdoodwal can You open BIOS?
[05:04] <Kheops> icarus-c: I see.
[05:04] <Kheops> icarus-c: and the rest of 800 GB will remain untouched ?
[05:04] <icarus-c> Kheops, yes.
[05:04] <tejas> pksadiq, really new to linux what command to do that?
[05:04] <Kheops> icarus-c: and on the same partition ?
[05:05] <nkdoodwal> pksadiq: i am working on same computer so little bit later i reconnect with you
[05:06] <Kheops> ?
[05:06] <icarus-c> Kheops, yes
[05:06] <pksadiq> pksadiq do sudo apt-get install gettext
[05:06] <Kheops> icarus-c: Thanks.
[05:06] <pksadiq> tejas do sudo apt-get install gettext
[05:06] <icarus-c> Kheops, that is the whole point of resizing file system/partition after all
[05:06] <Kheops> icarus-c: And I can't resize more than I have right ?
[05:06] <icarus-c> Kheops, of course
[05:07] <Kheops> to avoid data losing
[05:07] <Kheops> perfect.
[05:07] <Kheops> :P
[05:07] <Kheops> many thanks :)
[05:07] <icarus-c> Kheops, oh but aware that resizing such a large partition takes time
[05:07] <Kheops> I'm feeling more safety :)
[05:07] <Kheops> np icarus-c
[05:07] <icarus-c> Kheops, since it is moving data around behind the scene
[05:07] <Kheops> more than a back-up I don't think so :)
[05:08] <pksadiq> tejas you may also visit https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+question/81561
[05:08] <icarus-c> Kheops, oh but any partitioning operation come at certain risk
[05:08] <AlbertoP> Kheops: what do you use to resize?
[05:08] <Kheops> icarus-c: It's only 800 GB to move
[05:08] <icarus-c> Kheops, it works 99% of time, but can fail due to many reason
[05:08] <icarus-c> Kheops, like power cut, faulty disk, or a comet impact
[05:08] <tukadafoonday> Hey guys, whats a good theme i should install onto into my gnome?
[05:08] <pksadiq> tejas check the bottom part of the site
[05:08] <Kheops> icarus-c: There are only Data..no file system
[05:09] <Kheops> icarus-c: data only, music, video.
[05:09] <Kheops> AlbertoP: Live CD
[05:09] <icarus-c> tukadafoonday, my personal favourite is equinox
[05:09] <AlbertoP> Kheops: well if those data are written on a disk... you have a filesystem
[05:09] <Kheops> AlbertoP: Gparted.
[05:09] <tukadafoonday> thanks icarus-c
[05:09] <icarus-c> AlbertoP, oooo no you could of course store data on disk without a file system :)
[05:09] <AlbertoP> Kheops: well backup, and be *careful*
[05:09] <tukadafoonday> I will have a look at it.
[05:09] <icarus-c> AlbertoP, that's what real hacker does :P
[05:10] <Kheops> hmm AlbertoP: yes but I mean data on music and video..are data..not data system
[05:10] <Kheops> :)
[05:10] <icarus-c> dd ftw
[05:10] <AlbertoP> icarus-c: yuck!
[05:10] <Kheops> AlbertoP: It's a force term.
[05:10] <Kheops> AlbertoP: I can lose data during this long process of resizing ? :)
[05:10] <icarus-c> AlbertoP, and you could  hexedit /dev/sda :)
[05:10] <AlbertoP> Kheops: ohhh yes you can
[05:11] <Kheops> hmmmm or I can't.
[05:11] <Kheops> right ?
[05:11] <tukadafoonday> and what is the best dock to use? I have seen cairo and avant, I personally liked Avant more than Cairo... any others i should give a look?
[05:11] <icarus-c> Kheops, yes!  beware of mother, she often tend to shut off your computer at critical time
[05:11] <AlbertoP> Kheops: it is perfectly possible :)
[05:11] <Kheops> In state of formating I will asume this risk.
[05:11] <Kheops> :)
[05:11] <AlbertoP> nope
[05:12] <Kheops> icarus-c: you're funny but you're right about power crash..
[05:12] <Kheops> :)
[05:12] <Kheops> It's not my mum, It's the Electric Power Company :)
[05:12] <bullgard4> In Rhythmbox I made a playlist for an album, but the titles appear in it in an inverted order. How can I fix that?
[05:12] <AlbertoP> Kheops: during a resize, depending on the user approach, you manipulate the structure of the filesystem, which means you might damage it, and be unable to retrieve your data
[05:12] <pksadiq> tukadafoonday it is very nice to use e17 along with ecomorph and other plugins very charming, I like the best
[05:13] <AlbertoP> so it's not only "during formatting"
[05:13] <nkdoodwal> pksadiq: yeah i opened my bios
[05:13] <Kheops> AlbertoP: I understand..
[05:13] <Kheops> AlbertoP: But what can I do instate of Backup ?
[05:14] <pksadiq> nkdoodwal then did you changed first boot device?
[05:14] <AlbertoP> Kheops: nothing
[05:14] <Kheops> AlbertoP: :)
[05:14] <nkdoodwal> pksadiq: it is cd/dvd
[05:14] <Kheops> AlbertoP: keep the data there till my end of my life ?
[05:15] <pksadiq> nkdoodwal still not booting?
[05:15] <nkdoodwal> yeah
[05:15] <Eighteens> question, I got a system that will boot the live cd, but i have to choose options [x] acpi=off, [x] noapic, [x] nolapic, and [x] nomodeset, then it will boot the live cd, and lets me install it, install said sucessful, but then when i reboot, i get 'try booting with noapic' and i've tried booting, holding escape, 'e' to edit the highlighted kernel, and add the options, but no luck, Can anyone help?
[05:15] <Kheops> icarus-c: How I must resize, what is your advice about..
[05:15] <pksadiq> nkdoodwal now can you reinstall ubuntu?
[05:16] <icarus-c> Kheops, just resize. it is very safe. at least the software is
[05:16] <txwikinger> how can I disable the caching for usb writing?
[05:16] <Kheops> icarus-c: To resize all the free memory or to take about 198 GB from 200 GB ?
[05:16] <nkdoodwal> no because boot manager not loading
[05:16] <Kheops> It's matters ?
[05:16] <icarus-c> Kheops, what do you mean...
[05:16] <icarus-c> free memory?
[05:16] <Kheops> icarus-c: mhm
[05:17] <pksadiq> if you can use your BIOS to boot from CD or USB you can induce without BIOS support Using bootmanagers Like Plop Boot manager , visit www.plop.at/en/bootmanager.html
[05:17] <pksadiq> if you cant5 use your BIOS to boot from CD or USB you can induce without BIOS support Using bootmanagers Like Plop Boot manager , visit www.plop.at/en/bootmanager.html
[05:17] <Kheops> icarus-c: It's more risky if I will resize to the full free memory ?
[05:18] <icarus-c> Kheops, what you actually want to achieve
[05:18] <Kheops> hmm
[05:18] <Kheops> icarus-c: It is much better to resize 198 GB from 200 free ?
[05:18] <icarus-c> Kheops, i thought you want to resize from 1TB to 800GB
[05:18] <Kheops> icarus-c: nop
[05:19] <icarus-c> Kheops, oh you mean extending? that is a real piece of cake
[05:19] <Kheops> icarus-c: hmmm
[05:19] <Kheops> icarus-c: I don't think It's extending
[05:19] <icarus-c> Kheops, that will just change partition table a bit,  then change file system metadata. without even touching your data
[05:19] <icarus-c> oops
[05:20] <nkdoodwal> pksadiq: this time it started booting process normally
[05:20] <icarus-c> Kheops, you mean 200GB -> 2GB ?...
[05:20] <Kheops> icarus-c: From 800 GB I want to take 200 GB that are free.
[05:20] <pksadiq> nkdoodwal k
[05:20] <pksadiq> nkdoodwal then, so what is the help do you do need>
[05:20] <pksadiq> ?
[05:20] <Kheops> icarus-c: And then I will make a new partition with 200 GB :)
[05:20] <icarus-c> Kheops, so you have 800GB total,  600GB used (hence 200GB free).  and you want to resize 800GB -> 600GB ?
[05:21] <Kheops> icarus-c: Taken from the 1000 GB 800 GB..
[05:21] <Kheops> there are 898G -> 562G Used -> 291G Free
[05:21] <nkdoodwal> pksadiq: no thnks a lot for help
[05:21] <Kheops> now clear ?
[05:21] <Blue1> as the bottom of the hudson
[05:22] <nkdoodwal> pksadiq: it started normally
[05:22] <pksadiq> nkdoodwal Welcome :) skype me at pksadiq
[05:22] <icarus-c> Kheops, you know what, just tell gparted what you want, it will tell you it can be done or not :)
[05:22] <shamez> what are good python books with socket programming?
[05:22] <Kheops> icarus-c: do you understand me ?
[05:22] <icarus-c> Kheops, it won't let you shrink size more than you used
[05:22] <nkdoodwal> pksadiq: ok
[05:22] <bullgard4> Eighteens: Probably edit in /boot/grub/menu.lst a line that starts with 'kernel' (without a leading #), which includes the path to the Linux kernel image and the boot parameters.
[05:23] <icarus-c> Kheops, i think i got you 70%
[05:23] <Kheops> icarus-c: so It's a resizing not an extending
[05:23] <SabayonUser> hi friends i have an old mac ibook  g3 ver 2 (30 GB hdd, 128 mb ram)...which version of ubuntu do you recommend me to load?
[05:23] <TiK> bullgard4: the file to edit is /etc/default/grub (for grub2)
[05:23] <Kheops> icarus-c: but also I can use move
[05:23] <Kheops> icarus-c: right ?
[05:23] <icarus-c> SabayonUser, lubuntu.
[05:23] <bullgard4> TiK: Don't hekp me but please help Eighteens.
[05:24] <Kheops> icarus-c: It's same like resizing but you specify the value for Free Space Preceding
[05:24] <pksadiq> !lubuntu
[05:24] <Eighteens> oh please do :)
[05:24] <icarus-c> SabayonUser, i would go without a desktop environment though. like use a Window Manager based setup
[05:24] <TiK> bullgard4: well you are wrong that file is auto generated and will be overwritten
[05:24] <shamez> what are good python books with socket programming?
[05:24] <icarus-c> shamez, #python
[05:24] <SabayonUser> but i heard there is a separate powerpc version available
[05:24] <bullgard4> s/hekp/help/
[05:24] <icarus-c> Kheops, yes you can move
[05:24] <Flynsarmy1> Is it worth upgrading to meercat now while the RC is out if i'm on intel hardware (laptop) with nvidia gpu. or should i wait for the final build?
[05:25] <SabayonUser> a separate powerpc version for netbook
[05:25] <icarus-c> Kheops, but it would take a VERY long time...
[05:25] <Eighteens> thank you bullgard for that pleasant display of kindness in putting me before you
[05:25] <pksadiq> shamez check for diveintopython
[05:25] <Kheops> icarus-c: but I don't understand very much the you specify "the value for Free Space Preceding"
[05:25] <bullgard4> TiK: Don't help me but please help <Eighteens.
[05:25] <nkdoodwal> coz-: my wifi  is not working in ubuntu
[05:25] <TiK> Eighteens: what was you problem with grub2?
[05:25] <icarus-c> Kheops, moving in gparted is just dragging
[05:25] <icarus-c> Kheops, have you ever look at gparted?  the graph should explain
[05:25] <xiong> Can window movement be scripted?
[05:25] <Kheops> icarus-c: hmmm the move It's the same like resize ?
[05:25] <icarus-c> Kheops, no.
[05:25] <Kheops> icarus-c: of course.
[05:26] <nkdoodwal>  my wifi  is not working in ubuntu
[05:26] <gino_> Hello, could someone give me some info on how to run a bash script on startup? Ubuntu 10.04 LTS
[05:26] <Eighteens> ok i got 10.04 to install, but i had to boot the live cd, and choose 'noapic with f6 options, and nolapic, and acpi=off and nomodeset
[05:26] <shamez> pksadiq, what about o'reilly books?
[05:26] <sebikul> !wifi
[05:26] <SabayonUser> nkdoodwal do u have NEtwork manager or wicd?
[05:26] <Kheops> icarus-c: I'm pretty confused about resizing and moving..
[05:26] <Eighteens> install completed, but after reboot it wouldnt go
[05:26] <Eighteens> i'm in the live cd now, and can see the drive it installed to
[05:27] <Kheops> icarus-c: which It's better for my wish ?
[05:27] <Blue1> Eighteens: what exactly is happening?  ubuntu only, or dual boot, or?
[05:27] <Eighteens> i tried escaping, and 'e' to edit the highlighted kernel, but it didnt work
[05:27] <shamez> pksadiq, plus i have already read diveintopython ..not very thorough on socket programming..
[05:27] <TiK> Eighteens: edit /etc/default/grub and add those ines where it says "queit splash"
[05:27] <pksadiq> shamez oh, really! but O'reilly books are mostely not free
[05:27] <icarus-c> Kheops, moving is keeping same file system size but put on different physical location on the disk
[05:27] <icarus-c> Kheops, resizing is about changing the size of the file system
[05:27] <nkdoodwal> SabayonUser:  network manager/wicd?????????
[05:27] <icarus-c> Kheops, resizing & moving can be mixed though
[05:27] <Eighteens> ok let me have a look
[05:27] <Flynsarmy1> any omgwtfbbq style bugs in the meercat RC that would make you recommend i wait for the final build before installing it on an intel laptop with nvidia gpu?
[05:27] <samodha> #ubuntu-br-ba na rede irc.freenode.org
[05:28] <shamez> pksadiq, i dont mind buying..possibly which book would you recomend?
[05:28] <TiK> Eighteens: on the mounted harddrive
[05:28] <TiK> Flynsarmy1: I run 10.10
[05:28] <Kheops> icarus-c: I understand that If I will use move to have free unused space for a new partition It will dragg my filles on another partition ?
[05:29] <Flynsarmy1> TiK: are the noveau drivers supporting 3D yet?
[05:29] <icarus-c> Kheops, no........... your file will ALWAYS stick to the file system
[05:29] <Eighteens> ok got the /etc/default/grub file open in gedit
[05:29] <TiK> Flynsarmy1: i run invidia as well
[05:29] <icarus-c> Kheops, the file system move, they move
[05:29] <TiK> Eighteens: from the mounted hard drive or the live cd's one?
[05:29] <Eighteens> the mounted drive
[05:29] <TiK> ok
[05:30] <TiK> Eighteens: 1 sec
[05:30] <Kheops> icarus-c: what are the file system that you refer ?
[05:30] <icarus-c> Kheops, you don't have to even think about your data
[05:30] <Eighteens> thanks so much for helping, i was looking all over the place for this file
[05:30] <Flynsarmy1> TiK: proprietry or OSS drviers?
[05:30] <Eighteens> in order to boot the live cd, i had to add like 4 options from the f6 menu
[05:30] <TiK> prop
[05:30] <Eighteens> acpi=off, noapic, nolapic, nomodeset
[05:30] <TiK> Eighteens: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT= add here
[05:31] <nkdoodwal> TiK: my wifi  is not working in ubuntu  10.04
[05:31] <Eighteens> do i use spaces between the commands
[05:31] <icarus-c> Kheops, file system is the data structure that store & manage your files on storage.
[05:31] <Kheops> icarus-c: I don't understand the move command It says that It's like resizing command..
[05:31] <pksadiq> shamez chesk small tutorials online linke in http://www.evolt.org/node/60276        http://www.prasannatech.net/2008/07/socket-programming-tutorial.html      tp://www.slideshare.net/didip/socket-programming-in-python etc
[05:32] <TiK> Eighteens: yah spaces not ,'s
[05:32] <Kheops> with a small difference..
[05:32] <Eighteens> Tik, thank you so much, i wish i could repay you in some way, Great help!
[05:32] <rusivi> nkdoodwal What mfg/model laptop do you have?
[05:32] <icarus-c> Kheops, say it knows that /home/bill/favourite-porn.avi  is stored on  block  1000 to 1000000  on the disk physically
[05:32] <TiK> Eighteens: dont worry about it :P
[05:32] <nkdoodwal> rusivi:  i am having dell vostro 1510
[05:32] <icarus-c> Kheops, i think the word "move" & "resize" explain enough by itself
[05:33] <Eighteens> i don't mind holding escape when booting and choosing the drive i want to boot, but it would be nice if it was on a menu, like when you use the wubi loader, how it writes to boot.ini
[05:33] <Kheops> ...
[05:33] <TiK> Eighteens: you might have to do that 1 more time and then run "update-grub"
[05:33] <TiK> idk
[05:33] <icarus-c> Kheops, so in the bill's example,  favourite-porn.avi on block 1000-100000 is the data
[05:34] <vatsala> hi my netbook is unable to connect to wifi when it is running on battery
[05:34] <Kheops> I read..the gparted manual..
[05:34] <icarus-c> Kheops, you ask the file system for favourite-porn.avi,   the file system gives you data on block 1000-100000
[05:34] <Kheops> don't understand the move..
[05:34] <Eighteens> ok, so the line reads  GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash acpi=off noapic nolapic nomodeset"
[05:34] <icarus-c> Kheops, ok... now place your phone on desk
[05:34] <Eighteens> Tik, that look ok
[05:35] <vatsala> I haev a BCM4312 n/w controller - and i installed the bcm43xx-fwcutter tool
[05:35] <icarus-c> Kheops, let your phone now be at  place A.    now move it to the right by 10cm to place B
[05:35] <Kheops> icarus-c: k..I understand
[05:35] <TiK> Eighteens: yep reboot and try it you might have to put those opens in but onc its up run update-grub
[05:35] <nkdoodwal> rusivi: ..:-)
[05:35] <vatsala> is anyone facing a similar problem?
[05:35] <TiK> and it should do it everytime
[05:35] <Kheops> icarus-c: but I don't understand with partitions..
[05:35] <nkdoodwal> rusivi: . :-)
[05:35] <Kheops> icarus-c: here says..It's just like resizing, except that you specify the value for Free Space Preceding in the options.
[05:35] <icarus-c> Kheops, now i rephrase that:  your file system was starting on block A, size of your phone, and now you move the whole file system to block B
[05:36] <Eighteens> ok, thanks again, be back in 2shakes of a lambs tail
[05:36] <Eighteens> exit
[05:36] <icarus-c> (block refer to the starting block of the file system
[05:36] <Kheops> why I shuld to that ?
[05:36] <nkdoodwal> vatsala: yeah me
[05:36] <Kheops> should*
[05:36] <Kheops> do*..
[05:36] <icarus-c> Kheops, free space preceding is like cutting left side of your phone to "free" some space
[05:36] <rusivi> nkdoodwal: Has the wifi ever worked either in 10.04, prior Ubuntu, or in Maverick?
[05:37] <icarus-c> Kheops, "free space after"  means cut right side of your phone to free some space on the right
[05:37] <Kheops> but where It's going the moved space ?
[05:37] <vatsala> nkdoodwal: ok, how do it solve it - i found a work around for a realtek chipset but not yet for broadcom
[05:37] <nkdoodwal> yes in ubuntu 9.10
[05:37] <icarus-c> Kheops, move is about displacement, moving your phone
[05:37] <Kheops> but where ?
[05:37] <icarus-c> Kheops, where you tell it to...
[05:37] <Kheops> I see...
[05:37]  * Blue1 thinks icarus-c has the patience of job....
[05:37] <icarus-c> Kheops, see that bar where you could drag the partition around in gparted?
[05:38] <pksadiq> icarus-c are you jocking?
[05:38] <Kheops> Blue1: you're rude ? :)
[05:38] <nkdoodwal> rusivi:  wifi driver not installing
[05:38] <icarus-c> Blue1, saturday :)
[05:38] <icarus-c> pksadiq, i can't think of better way to teach
[05:38] <bazhang> Kheops, this is going to take a long time. best to get started.
[05:38] <Kheops> icarus-c: I see
[05:38] <pksadiq> icarus-c Great, Keep it Up
[05:38] <icarus-c> Kheops, dragging that bar is like moving your phone..
[05:39] <Kheops> bazhang: thanks for whishes.
[05:39] <rusivi> nkdoodwal: Ok, your saying when you click System -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers it does not install?
[05:39] <bazhang> Kheops, any data you don't backup is not important. always do backups before such sensitive operations.
[05:40] <nkdoodwal> rusivi: it show in h/w driver but give error message
[05:40] <Kheops> I don't understand..
[05:40] <Kheops> look at this http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/gparted.html
[05:40] <rusivi> nkdoodwal: Can you copy/paste the error message?
[05:40] <Kheops> scroll down to Task 6
[05:40] <bazhang> Kheops, make a back up copy.  just in case.
[05:40] <Kheops> and tell me what he did.
[05:41] <Kheops> bazhang: I can't there are many data files..
[05:41] <nkdoodwal> rusivi: yeah
[05:41] <bazhang> Kheops, then you deem them unimportant.
[05:41] <rusivi> nkdoodwal: please do so
[05:42] <Kheops> bazhang: If I could do the backup I didn't come here k ?
[05:42] <vatsala> rusivi: my broadcoam b43 wireless drivers are installed but I dont know if I have missed something else
[05:42] <icarus-c> Kheops, i think what he meant is moving is like resizing because it can be done by changing free space preceding & following  at the same time
[05:42] <Kheops> I realy don't understand...http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/gparted.html task 6
[05:43] <icarus-c> Kheops, if you got gparted running, you drag the bar around, you will see the value of free space preceding &following change together
[05:43] <vatsala> rusivi: let me paste the o/p of iwconfig and ifconfig from my netbook a
[05:43] <Kheops> can you explain to me task 6 ?
[05:43] <nkdoodwal> rusivi: it asks to look file named /var/log/jockey.log
[05:43] <Kheops> what he did..
[05:43] <icarus-c> Kheops, just very simple math,  add some free space in front, minus some after, if what you added & minuses are the same, it is "move"
[05:43] <rusivi> nkdoodwal: ok one moment please
[05:44] <icarus-c> Kheops, if you don't understand that, ignore he says "just like resizing"
[05:44] <x-izzy> i need help in installing kopete
[05:44] <zain> The file '/home/zain/.wine/dosdevices/c:/users/zain/My Documents/Downloads/idman519.exe' is not marked as executable.  If this was downloaded or copied form an untrusted source, it may be dangerous to run.  For more details, read about the executable bit.
[05:44] <icarus-c> Kheops, if you insist to understand it but you don't,  just run gparted, play around with the bar you will see
[05:44] <Kheops> I see..
[05:44] <Kheops> k thanks
[05:44] <Kheops> :P
[05:45] <nkdoodwal> rusivi: it shows following message
[05:45] <nkdoodwal> rusivi: 2010-10-01 10:47:05,410 DEBUG: BroadcomWLHandler enabled(): kmod disabled, bcm43xx: blacklisted, b43: enabled, b43legacy: enabled
[05:45] <rusivi> nkdoodwal: have you been trying fwcutter?
[05:45] <zain> how to slove that
[05:45] <zain> The file '/home/zain/.wine/dosdevices/c:/users/zain/My Documents/Downloads/idman519.exe' is not marked as executable.  If this was downloaded or copied form an untrusted source, it may be dangerous to run.  For more details, read about the executable bit.
[05:45] <nkdoodwal> rusivi: no
[05:46] <rusivi> nkdoodwal: Ok, one thing that is helpful is has your wifi issue worked in either a prior version of Ubuntu or in Maverick?
[05:46] <icarus-c> zain, even idman519.exe is executable, linux can't run it anyway
[05:46] <zain> ..
[05:46] <zain> I have wine
[05:46] <icarus-c> zain, you still have to run it like "wine idman519.exe"
[05:46] <icarus-c> zain, and you could still run it like that WITHOUT executatble right
[05:47] <vatsala> nkdoodwal: wht chipset and device drive did you use in your prior Ubuntu version
[05:47] <zain> I right click it and open with wine loadeer
[05:47] <zain> but it seems block
[05:47] <tejas> pksadiq, well I got ./configure to work but no I get this /bin/bash: xmlto: command not found when I try to make
[05:47] <litropy> Hello, all. Instead of describing my issue here, I've pastebin'ed it. Please see: http://pastebin.com/K8uMbsUw
[05:47] <pksadiq> zain right click on the file > properties > permisions and tick execute
[05:47] <nkdoodwal> rusivi: yes in ubuntu 9.10
[05:48] <zain> thanks pksadiq
[05:48] <icarus-c> execute permission has no use for wine
[05:48] <pksadiq> zain Welcome
[05:49] <icarus-c> pksadiq, if you can't run "wine blah.exe"  without execute permission,  but you could  with execute permisison, let me know :P
[05:50] <pksadiq> tejas sudo apt-get install xmlto
[05:50] <icarus-c> it is just like you can also run a bash script without executable permission with  "bash apple.sh"
[05:50] <icarus-c> just that you can't  ./apple.sh  when it got no execute right
[05:50] <tejas> cd
[05:51] <pksadiq> icarcus-c I'm not the Architect of Wine. :)
[05:51] <icarus-c> speaking of wine, i should get a bear
[05:52] <pksadiq> icarus-c I haven't yet drunk wine or Bear, It's Haram for me as According to our  Ethical Laws
[05:52] <icarus-c> pksadiq, sorry for mentioning beer then :P
[05:53] <pksadiq> icarus-c I Sorry, I meant Beer
[05:53] <greezmunkey> ubudtu
[05:54] <zain> :S
[05:54] <zain> I feel like using linuxmint
[05:54] <pksadiq> icarus-c So now get back to Our Moto," Live and Help Live"
[05:54] <usuario> mm
[05:54] <x-izzy> hi
[05:55] <icarus-c> zain, linux mint is just ubuntu with another theme plus mint menu as far as i know
[05:55] <zain> seems like more cool
[05:55] <nowimproved> i am using ps3 eye and it is working with skype but not in flash, like stickam.com
[05:55] <icarus-c> zain, maybe? i would rather just grab their theme if i like it
[05:56] <zain> nah
[05:56] <icarus-c> zain, you could also put mint menu on ubuntu or any other distro if you like
[05:56] <zain> linuxmint is pretty I think
[05:56] <zain> ;)
[05:56] <bazhang> !ot > zain
[05:56] <icarus-c> just a theme.........
[05:57] <digital_1> ubotto what's the pre-release channel name?
[05:57] <digital_1> Ubuntu 10.10
[05:57] <bazhang> digital_1, #ubuntu+1
[05:57] <icarus-c> digital_1, #ubuntu+1
[05:57] <digital_1> Thanks
[05:57] <icarus-c> digital_1, see /topic next time
[05:57] <digital_1> What happened to ubottu?
[05:58] <icarus-c> digital_1, it is just a bot
[05:58] <icarus-c> enough google is not clever enough to answer "what's the pre-release channel name?" i suppose
[05:59] <barnacles10> Anyone here with android sdk experience?
[06:00] <bullgard4> Why are there installed on my computer the DEB program packages grub (version 0.97) and grub-common (version 1.98) at the same time?
[06:00] <bazhang> barnacles10, try /msg alis list *android* for a support channel
[06:00] <x-izzy> i need help with installing kopete
[06:00] <barnacles10> thanks
[06:00] <icarus-c> barnacles10, http://developer.android.com/sdk/installing.html
[06:01] <x-izzy> help
[06:01] <FusionX> i recently installed ubuntu on a partition on my hard disk, ubuntu overwrote the bootloader with GRUB, i don't have Windows bootloader anymore. How can i recover windows bootloader without the windows installation CD while keeping the GRUB bootloader with it?
[06:01] <icarus-c> x-izzy, apt-get install kopete ?
[06:01] <tristan_> FusionX you need a windows disk
[06:01] <x-izzy> i did that and i can't still find it in programs but when i try to do it again it says its installed
[06:01] <tristan_> if its 7 there is a little repair my installation thing
[06:01] <tristan_> otherwise a few commands from the recovery console
[06:01] <tristan_> its easy. google it
[06:01] <FusionX> tristan_: its windows XP
[06:01] <greezmunkey> tristan_: cant grub boot Windows?
[06:01] <tristan_> yes.
[06:01] <icarus-c> x-izzy, but note that kopete uses KDE component intensively, running it on GNOME or other environment will use a lot more resources
[06:01] <tristan_> if it knows where it is
[06:02] <icarus-c> x-izzy, so Applications -> Internet -> Kopete ?
[06:02] <greezmunkey> tristan_: that shouldn't be too hard :)
[06:02] <x-izzy> its not there
[06:02] <icarus-c> x-izzy, or press Alt-F2 , enter kopete
[06:02] <FusionX> but i'm planning to remove ubuntu some weeks later and it will also remove the GRUB and so i won't be able to boot at all
[06:02] <x-izzy> i am using GNOME
[06:02] <barnacles10> I've been there. I can get it working, but am having issues with things sticking
[06:02] <tristan_> yeah you just gotta
[06:02] <zain> what is mint irc ?
[06:02] <zain> :(
[06:02] <tristan_> hmm its like 2 commands
[06:02] <icarus-c> greezmunkey, grub can't boot windows itself, but grub can chainload to windows boot loader
[06:02] <bazhang> !mintsupport > zain
[06:02] <tristan_> easy though.
[06:03] <FusionX> (I use Windows XP service pack 3) i recently installed ubuntu on a partition on my hard disk, ubuntu overwrote the bootloader with GRUB, i don't have Windows bootloader anymore. How can i recover windows bootloader without the windows installation CD while keeping the GRUB bootloader with it?
[06:03] <greezmunkey> icarus-c: got it, thanks.
[06:03] <icarus-c> greezmunkey, which means grub can ask windows boot loader to boot windows
[06:03] <icarus-c> FusionX, what is your other OS
[06:03] <greezmunkey> FusionX: bootdisk.com may be of some help
[06:03] <FusionX> icarus-c : ubuntu and windows xp
[06:03] <x-izzy> it opened... thanks man but i can't find the icon so i have to always do that?
[06:03] <tristan_> FusionX: yes
[06:03] <icarus-c> FusionX, simply use that OS boot loader to take over the MBR then format your ubuntu install
[06:03] <tristan_> its like two commands from the recovery console
[06:04] <tristan_> dont make me google it for you
[06:04] <icarus-c> FusionX, so you would  run fixmbr or fixboot on Windows (i don't really know). then grub will no longer be your boot loader,  so you could format ubuntu
[06:04] <litropy> Hello,, all. Please sewe my issue with gnome freezing here http://pastebin.com/K8uMbsUw
[06:04] <tristan_> icarus-c: is correct
[06:04] <tristan_> but google the exact commands
[06:05] <icarus-c> tristan_, what?! ubuntu doesn't even involve in the task
[06:05] <icarus-c> tristan_, it is all windows'
[06:05] <FusionX> ho do i use bootdisc.com?
[06:05] <icarus-c> ubuntu will just sit there and let Windows remove it
[06:05] <icarus-c> FusionX, i've just told you how...
[06:05] <greezmunkey> FusionX: go there, and download what you need.
[06:05] <icarus-c> FusionX, ask windows folks how to fixmbr or stuff like that
[06:05] <greezmunkey> FusionX: see icarus-c 's messages...
[06:06] <icarus-c> FusionX, what you want to do is actually not related to Ubuntu or Linux even
[06:06] <tristan_> icarus-c: its the xp boot disk an dcommand prompt :p
[06:06] <icarus-c> FusionX, i repeat,  to remove ubuntu,  you will need to use Windows to reinstall Windows' boot loader, then use Windows to format ubuntu's install
[06:07] <icarus-c> in contrast of how to remove Windows and install ubuntu :P
[06:07] <FusionX> icarus-c: ok i got it, thanks alot!
[06:08] <rusivi> nkdoodwal: have you had a chance to check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[06:09] <icarus-c> x-izzy, kopete is a KDE stuff, it may not be compliant with GNOME's application category, so it may not appear in APplication->internet.   maybe in Other?
[06:09] <icarus-c> x-izzy, anyway, wouldn't Alt-F2 kopete be  faster :)
[06:09] <icarus-c> or the master way:  bind a keyboard shortcut to run kopete
[06:09] <icarus-c> x-izzy, between, how much more memory is used when you run kopete ?
[06:10] <icarus-c> like 100MB ?
[06:10] <theta003> help identify
[06:10] <icarus-c> theta003, could you clarify a bit?
[06:11] <phil_in_london> theta003   /msg nickserv help identify
[06:11] <icarus-c> ahh!!! that
[06:11] <x-izzy> i don't really know how to check that
[06:11] <icarus-c> phil_in_london, how could you even think of nickserv just seeing "help identify" on a ubuntu support channel
[06:12] <icarus-c> x-izzy, gnome-system-monitor
[06:12] <phil_in_london> icarus, been doing irc since hmm...well, never mind ;)
[06:12] <phil_in_london> lets just say, first client was a telnet app :)
[06:12] <theta003> hi, i need help connecting to a wireless network
[06:13] <theta003> there is some permissions problem
[06:13] <icarus-c> theta003, there should be a network icon on your panel in status area
[06:13] <x-izzy> 23%
[06:13] <theta003> i installed wicd, got connected, got an ip
[06:13] <icarus-c> x-izzy, check that with & without kopete running to see the difference
[06:13] <theta003> icarus-c: when trying to ping, i get operation not permitted, even while using sudo
[06:14] <icarus-c> theta003, what is the exact message
[06:14] <phil_in_london> theta, what are you pinging? the router? the internet? yourself?
[06:14] <theta003> the router
[06:14] <phil_in_london> theta, do you get the same message if you ping say google, or yourself?
[06:15] <theta003> i get "PING 192.168.1.255 "Operation Not Permitted"
[06:15] <icarus-c> theta003, what is the exact "operation not permitted" message
[06:15] <icarus-c> and also try pinging google
[06:15] <phil_in_london> it could simply be that the router is not responding to ping, its a parameter that can be set on most routers.
[06:16] <theta003> icarus-c: i didn't try that, but tried "nslookup www.google.com"
[06:16] <theta003> icarus-c: it times out
[06:16] <scott__> hello
[06:16] <phil_in_london> theta, how about ping yourself.
[06:16] <scott__> does anyone know why my sound cuts out when i start picasa?
[06:16] <theta003> icarus-c: there are a lot of comps connected to the same router,  they are working perfectly fine
[06:17] <greezmunkey> theta003: are you running a firewall?
[06:17] <x-izzy> its 21.7%
[06:17] <theta003> greezmunkey: i don't know
[06:17] <x-izzy> its 22% now
[06:17] <theta003> greezmunkey: i haven't done anything specific to enable a firewal
[06:17] <greezmunkey> theta003: try sudo iptables -L see what comes up.
[06:18] <theta003> greezmunkey: theres a long list on O/P
[06:19] <greezmunkey> theta003: that's it.
[06:19] <theta003> greezmunkey: unforunately at present I am on a differen comp, so can't copy-paste
[06:19] <phil_in_london> scott, I get same thing, in my case its amount of ram on this p.o.s., only 1/2mb here.
[06:19] <greezmunkey> theta003: you can flush iptables to see if that really is it.
[06:19] <scott__> really?
[06:19] <scott__> i have 2gb
[06:20] <bullgard4> Why are there installed on my computer the DEB program packages grub (version 0.97) and grub-common (version 1.98) at the same time?
[06:20] <phil_in_london> scott, what about your sound card, has its own ram too?
[06:20] <scott__> using onboard sound
[06:20] <theta003> greezmunkey: how do i do that? i am a n00b
[06:20] <phil_in_london> scott, yeah, that'll chew up some system ram.
[06:20] <greezmunkey> theta003: sudo iptables -F
[06:20] <phil_in_london> scott, when you start picassa, is it starting up showing folders of pictures?
[06:21] <scott__> no, just opening up picasa
[06:21] <scott__> i have a feeling that it has something to do with wine taking over
[06:21] <theta003> greezmunkey: after that
[06:21] <phil_in_london> scott, well, there is that layer that wine is going to add to the whole process.
[06:21] <scott__> but after a min or so... i can play music just fine
[06:21] <theta003> greezmunkey: there was no O/P
[06:21] <scott__> while picasa is running
[06:21] <greezmunkey> theta003: try your ping
[06:21] <phil_in_london> scott, yeah, its ram allocation, some for wine, some for your sound card, once everybody's been dealt their hand its back on with the game.
[06:22] <phil_in_london> scott, are there no alternatives to picassa you can use to eliminate the need for wine?
[06:22] <theta003> greezmunkey: same error: "ping: sendmsg: Operation not permitted"
[06:22] <scott__> i wish google would come out with a linux native butt..
[06:22] <scott__> but..
[06:22] <greezmunkey> theta003: your firewall may complain, or rebuild the rules, check with sudo iptables -L again.
[06:22] <scott__> dont see that happening
[06:23] <phil_in_london> scott, but is just an image management program no?
[06:23] <scott__> fspot dosent do the trick :-(
[06:23] <phil_in_london> ah, okay, you've investigated then :)
[06:23] <theta003> greezmunkey: only three table headings now, no info below that
[06:23] <scott__> well, i mainly use it to import from my digital cam
[06:23] <scott__> videos and pictures, and its all neatly organized in picasa
[06:23] <colt> #irc.brokensphere.net #bibliotik-invites
[06:23] <theta003> greezmunkey: chain INPUT, chain FORWARD, chain  OUTPUT
[06:23] <gb__> ello
[06:24] <greezmunkey> theta003: hmm...that's wierd.
[06:24] <phil_in_london> scott, I wonder if there might be a way to startup wine at boot up so it don't chew up those cycles when you start picassa?
[06:24] <greezmunkey> theta003: try ping 127.0.0.1
[06:24] <User_UnFriendly> what's the discussion with iptables?
[06:24] <scott__> thats what id like
[06:24] <icarus-c> ping icarus
[06:24] <phil_in_london> I don't know myself, don't use wine at all.
[06:24] <scott__> u say u have the same issue?
[06:24] <Blue1> !pdf editor | blue1
[06:24] <theta003> greezmunkey: same error
[06:24] <phil_in_london> scott, I have same issue but its definitely due to lack of ram.
[06:24] <User_UnFriendly> no i'm asking, i didn't hear the question
[06:24] <scott__> u are the first person ive ran into that had the same
[06:24] <greezmunkey> theta003: are yo one that machine now?
[06:24] <Blue1> anyone know of a pdf editor OTHER then pdfedit, that actually works?
[06:24] <phil_in_london> scott, wine starts with notepad added to it already right?
[06:25] <theta003> greezmunkey: nope, but its just next to me
[06:25] <rusivi> Blue1: Evince
[06:25] <rusivi> Blue1: Adobe Reader
[06:25] <gb__> Blue1: pdftk >> pdf toolkit
[06:25] <scott__> yes notepad is in there
[06:25] <User_UnFriendly> wine and iptables??!
[06:25] <theta003> greezmunkey: nope, buts its next to me
[06:25] <rusivi> Blue1: sorry dislexic Office w/ PDF Import
[06:25] <User_UnFriendly> I second notepad is in there
[06:25] <phil_in_london> scott, if you head over to System/Preferences/Startup maybe you could add either Wine or Notepad to your startup, maybe that will force at load at boot.
[06:25] <Blue1> rusivi: what I am looking for is something that would allow me to type my responses rather then handwriting.
[06:25] <theta003> greezmunkey: i mean i am connected to irc on a different one
[06:25] <scott__> ill see if my music cuts out while starting notepad
[06:26] <rusivi> Blue1: I have used OpenOffice w/ PDF Import add-on
[06:26] <User_UnFriendly> man i'm confused on what is the question
[06:26] <greezmunkey> theta003: ok, you _should_ be able to ping localhost. Try ping localhost...
[06:26] <phil_in_london> scott, what I'm getting at is that the "cut" is probably happening while the system is allocating ram resources to Wine....if you could get that out of the way at boot, maybe it might occur only that once.
[06:26] <gb__> guys anyone got vmware player working on new ubuntu, do i need extra packages, i do have build-essential, anything else i need/
[06:27] <User_UnFriendly> gb__: you talking about maverick?
[06:27] <scott__> i c what u are saying
[06:27] <Blue1> rusivi: oo doesn't like pdf files can only export
[06:27] <gb__> User_UnFriendly: yes
[06:27] <scott__> notepad dosent make sound cut out
[06:27] <phil_in_london> scott, but was wine already loaded during this boot?
[06:27] <theta003> greezmunkey: yep that works
[06:27] <rusivi> Blue1: One must install the "PDF Import" add-on i'll get the link for it
[06:27] <User_UnFriendly> gb__: i'm using maverick but i haven't tried it yet
[06:27] <Blue1> rusivi: ah thanks.
[06:27] <User_UnFriendly> have you had a problem?
[06:27] <rusivi> Blue1: http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/project/pdfimport
[06:28] <scott__> if i have music playing and i start picasa the sound goes out...  if i wait a minute i can start my music again and its fine
[06:28] <theta003> greezmunkey: i can access net via gprs on that machine
[06:28] <Blue1> rusivi: omw (on my way)
[06:28] <scott__> but if i start picasa again it cuts out again
[06:28] <rusivi> :)
[06:28] <theta003> greezmunkey: its only through the wlan0 interface that is creating problems
[06:28] <greezmunkey> theta003: good, so what's happening is that your echo responses are being dropped, maybe by some other firewall - probably not an indication that there is anything wrong...
[06:28] <phil_in_london> scott, same thing happens here with my rhythmbox, and it happens with any program of size, terminal don't do it nor gedit, but pretty much anything else including Chrome does.
[06:28] <gb__> User_UnFriendly: i had google for hwto vmware on ubuntu, found olf link which told  me to get some file, which i dont see in new system, it was on old ubuntu 8.10 linnk instruction page , was not sure on new
[06:29] <demonspork> FFUUUU GOOOGLE: HOW DOES IT WORK
[06:29] <phil_in_london> scott, oh, happens everytime, well my guess on the "load at boot" ain't gonna help then :(
[06:29] <gb__> scott whats the question and issue?
[06:29] <scott__> :-(
[06:29] <scott__> everytime i start up picasa my sound cuts out
[06:29] <phil_in_london> scott, do you use the picassa alot?
[06:29] <User_UnFriendly> have you tried virtual box from sun?
[06:29] <scott__> but after about a min i start up music again its fine
[06:29] <gb__> you not running as sudo are you?
[06:29] <AbhiJit> hi
[06:30] <scott__> yes i use picasa alot
[06:30] <User_UnFriendly> gb__: have you tried virtual box from sun?
[06:30] <theta003> greezmunkey: something weird happened, i dialed using wvdial to connect to gprs n/w while being connected to the wifi n/w, after disconnecting the gprs n/w, the wlan0 interface started to work immediately
[06:30] <rusivi> gb__ I tried VMWare, I would more consider that if I was corporate admin, I use Oracle VirtualBox-OSE for personal use and it rocks.
[06:30] <User_UnFriendly> what up mawst
[06:30] <scott__> i switched from windows completely like 6months ago. and this is the last thing ive been "dealing with"
[06:30] <phil_in_london> scott, lets say you start picassa, and just leave it running, does it cut sound when you simply switch back to it?
[06:30] <gb__> User_UnFriendly: yup i have , i wanted to try vmware player for a chance, always used virtuabox before
[06:30] <theta003> greezmunkey: my problem is solved, but haven't a clue why
[06:30] <User_UnFriendly> virtual box is the way to go
[06:30] <User_UnFriendly> oh okay
[06:31] <greezmunkey> theta003: reboot and start over, flushing the firewall rules probably had something to do with that.
[06:31] <Blue1> rusivi: ahh no instruction on how to install will continue looking
[06:31] <gb__> scot you not runnng picasa with sudo right /
[06:31] <User_UnFriendly> what's your problem with vmware
[06:31] <theta003> greezmunkey: k, thanks
[06:31] <rusivi> Blue1: let me check out Synaptic real quick
[06:31] <jonrafkind> I created a new ppa but I'm not exactly sure what to upload, am I uploading a source package for it to build or a binary package that I should build myself?
[06:31] <scott__> gb.. im not logged on as root
[06:31] <scott__> is that what u are asking?
[06:31] <User_UnFriendly> yes
[06:31] <Blue1> rusivi: i have oo installed, but I can't figure out how to install the extension I loaded
[06:31] <Blue1> downloaded
[06:31] <greezmunkey> theta003: if you get the same (no) connectivity after restarting, and then it works after flushing the iptables, then you know what needs to be addressed :)
[06:32] <mawst> Yo
[06:32] <User_UnFriendly> greezmunkey: you anygood with iptables
[06:32] <User_UnFriendly> ?
[06:32] <User_UnFriendly> yo mawst
[06:32] <rusivi> openoffice.org-pdfimport
[06:32] <theta003> greezmunkey: yeah, i know what to do, but still don't get it why its required
[06:32] <rusivi> Blue1: you can install via synaptic openoffice.org-pdfimport
[06:32] <AbhiJit> (dont laugh) but how to exit vim?
[06:32] <Blue1> rusivi: k
[06:32] <AbhiJit> ;)
[06:32] <theta003> greezmunkey: i will have to change some firewall rules to get it to work automatically?
[06:32] <gb__> scott try as normal user
[06:32] <phil_in_london> scott, this picassa,  you're talking about wine and such, but can't you just visit http://picasaweb.google.com/
[06:33] <scott__> phil... u know what.. it does make the music cut out again
[06:33] <gb__> scott oh "not"
[06:33] <gb__> AbhiJit: hi
[06:33] <User_UnFriendly> vim is great for not being to leave lol
[06:33] <AbhiJit> ??
[06:33] <greezmunkey> User_UnFriendly: I get around, but unfortunately I have to drop off right now, it is Friday night :)
[06:33] <Blue1> rusivi: no, unhappy with that - installed, but won't open pdf file...
[06:33] <AbhiJit> hello gb__
[06:33] <phil_in_london> scott, what I'm wondering is why you are even running a picassa application at all?
[06:33] <gb__> AbhiJit:  press escape first, the shift key + z z
[06:33] <scott__> just from bringing up a picture
[06:33] <User_UnFriendly> later then
[06:34] <rusivi> Blue1: Does it give you the opportunity to open the PDF file in OpenOffice Draw?
[06:34] <scott__> id love to get away from picasa, but havent found anything that does what it does
[06:34] <gb__> scott__: and whats is it?
[06:34] <Blue1> rusivi: not tried that...
[06:34] <dendrite> hi
[06:34] <phil_in_london> scott, thats strange, I just brought up picassa and it DID NOT stop my sound.
[06:34] <dendrite> hows everyone doing
[06:34] <rusivi> Blue1: Typically the PDF Import extension opens PDFs in Draw
[06:34] <phil_in_london> but then, I just visited http://picasaweb.google.com/  I don't have an application installed.
[06:34] <scott__> i plug my digital camera in.. it imports everything(including videos) and organizes everything neatly
[06:35] <Blue1> rusivi: I have oo presentation/spreadsheet/wordprocessor
[06:35] <User_UnFriendly> man i should have came here last night with an issue with a dlink adapter, but i figured it out
[06:35] <phil_in_london> scott, AH, thats it, your digital camera has some kind of software with it?
[06:35] <rusivi> Blue1: Install Draw, that may be the deal breaker for PDF Import
[06:35] <gb__> AbhiJit: done?
[06:35] <dendrite> ok general question. where can i find the 'source' code for most apps i install in ubuntu. for example.  the program 'qiv'. where can i find the source code after installing it from apt?
[06:35] <AbhiJit> gb__, stopped with ctrl z and then exited
[06:35] <scott__> no no, special software with my cam
[06:35] <gb__> AbhiJit: thats not the right way
[06:36] <rusivi> Blue1: Copying from Synaptic Description: "This package contains an extension to open PDF documents with
[06:36] <rusivi> OpenOffice.org Draw."
[06:36] <phil_in_london> scott, is your video onboard like your audio?
[06:36] <AbhiJit> dendrite, to get the source code do apt-get source qiv
[06:36] <AbhiJit> gb__, yah but now i exited anyhow
[06:36] <dendrite> ah ty. where would it download it after that?
[06:36] <dendrite> directory i mean
[06:36] <AbhiJit> dendrite, in yoru current directory
[06:36] <scott__> video and sound onboard
[06:36] <phil_in_london> scott, does your system's bios allow you to allocate ram to the video at boot up?
[06:37] <Blue1> rusivi: it's already instlaled let me see if I can bring it up.
[06:37] <scott__> im not sure
[06:37] <gb__> AbhiJit: next time nano document
[06:38] <AbhiJit> gb__, yah
[06:38] <User_UnFriendly> nano is awesome, why isn't it in fedora on install?
[06:38] <scott__> do you think the video is taking away too much from audio?
[06:39] <icarus-c> User_UnFriendly, coz there is vim
[06:39] <phil_in_london> scott, I'd have a look and see, its "possible" you could allocated ram to the video at boot. I think your problem is memory switching. Neither your audio card nor video card have their own ram so they're going to be messing with the swap file for it whenever required.
[06:39] <scott__> ohh.. and it sometimes cuts out. rarely.. but still does it when i play quakelive
[06:39] <phil_in_london> scott, thats pretty much what I think yeah, its video stealing the ram causing audio to puke.
[06:39] <User_UnFriendly> icarus-c: that's the real reason, or you making a joke
[06:39] <rusivi> hehehe
[06:39] <dendrite> ok i did that. ty very much AbhiJit.  but i can't make them my user ownership. they are stuck in root ownership
[06:39] <mokkan> i just updated to the 10.10 beta from 10.04, and now i can't connect to wireless networks anymore.. i can still see them, but the connection never goes through, any ideas?
[06:39] <icarus-c> User_UnFriendly, when there is vim, you don't need nano, right?...
[06:40] <Blue1> rusivi: WOO HOO!  Thanks
[06:40] <User_UnFriendly> yeah
[06:40] <dendrite> i tried chown username:username didn't work
[06:40] <phil_in_london> scott, most bios's do allow for an allocation of system ram to the video if onboard...I'd have a look and test.
[06:40] <zain> mokkan, you sure
[06:40] <zain> recheck
[06:40] <rusivi> Blue1: I'm so syked it worked out for you
[06:40] <User_UnFriendly> i'm not a fan of vim
[06:40] <User_UnFriendly> sorry
[06:40] <icarus-c> User_UnFriendly, and fedora people need vim more than nano i suppose
[06:40] <Blue1> rusivi: thanks a million!
[06:40] <mokkan> zain, yeah i click on the network manager icon and click on "linksys" and it tries to connect and fails
[06:40] <rusivi> Blue1: np glad to be of assistance
[06:40] <gb__> dendrite: chown perm file_name
[06:40] <mokkan> it was working just fine a few hours ago before i updated
[06:40] <scott__> so u think allocate more to video or less?
[06:41] <icarus-c> User_UnFriendly, and ubuntu want to be "newbie-friendly" so ubuntu got nano
[06:41] <phil_in_london> scott, I
[06:41] <zain> uh wait for someone to assist you,if not post or forum or make a urgent bug report ;)
[06:41] <phil_in_london> scott, I'm betting on allocating MORE to the video, you will have no control over the audio ram.
[06:41] <Ryen> !10.10 | mokkan
[06:41] <User_UnFriendly> okay
[06:41] <User_UnFriendly> mac has nano too
[06:41] <scott__> ok ill give that a try
[06:41] <User_UnFriendly> lol
[06:41] <scott__> thanks phil
[06:41] <phil_in_london> scott, all suggestions do come with a 2/2/2 warranty
[06:41] <scott__> this is also the first time ive been in irc in 10yrs..
[06:42] <phil_in_london> 2 mins, 2 feet or 2 bad :-p
[06:42] <rusivi> Blue1: All the kudos belong to the Oracle/OOo team who developed, drop them a ty on their website, they would be so happy to hear it
[06:42] <phil_in_london> scott, its been years for me as well.
[06:42] <dendrite> i got if figured out
[06:42] <User_UnFriendly> scott__: that's a long time
[06:42] <dendrite> i didn't supply the "-R flag"
[06:42] <scott__> is this just #ubuntu or are there multiple rooms/
[06:42] <Blue1> rusivi: i will thanks
[06:42] <User_UnFriendly> were you married?
[06:42] <Blue1> rusivi: sure beats pdfedit
[06:42] <phil_in_london> scott there are many other rooms.
[06:42] <rusivi> Blue1: hehe
[06:43] <scott__> military then college, then job, then married, now having a kid in a month
[06:43] <scott__> busy 10yrs
[06:43] <aetaric> !ot
[06:43] <dendrite> !ot
[06:43] <User_UnFriendly> i was just joking around.  Sorry
[06:43] <rusivi> shesh ubottu...
[06:43] <rusivi> :P
[06:44] <icarus-c> Blue1, what is the solution to pdf edit you found?
[06:44] <icarus-c> OO.org  draw ?
[06:44] <rusivi> icarus-c: OO.org draw + openoffice.org-pdfimport
[06:44] <User_UnFriendly> !ot
[06:44] <Blue1> icarus-c: install the pdf import for oo then use oo page draw
[06:45] <scott__> brb.. maybe
[06:45] <scott__> :-D
[06:45] <icarus-c> Blue1, rusivi aha
[06:45] <AbhiJit> !permissions | dendrite
[06:46] <DarkSector> Where to find support for Maverick ?
[06:46] <icarus-c> Blue1, used that before, not ideal but it works :P
[06:46] <User_UnFriendly> anyone using maverick 64?
[06:46] <gino_> Hello
[06:46] <User_UnFriendly> hi
[06:46] <TiK> User_UnFriendly: yes
[06:46] <gb__> User_UnFriendly: i am
[06:46] <DarkSector> !Maverick > DarkSector
[06:46] <User_UnFriendly> what you think so far?
[06:46] <TiK> very nice
[06:46] <User_UnFriendly> to me it seems a tad slow
[06:47] <TiK> heh
[06:47] <Blue1> icarus-c: yes, but pdfedit has no documentation on how to do a simple text edit.
[06:47] <TiK> not here
[06:47] <gino_> I have placed my script in /etc/init/ but upstart doesn't seem to run it, ether with "start myscrip" or when ubuntu start. Help?
[06:47] <User_UnFriendly> well boot is fast
[06:47] <Chaos2358> does anyone know a good program for organizing music on ubuntu 10.04? something like cowbell that can retrieve song info because cowbell isnt working
[06:47] <icarus-c> Blue1, pdfedit works too but just way toooo slow.............
[06:47] <icarus-c> Blue1, as i recall, it was real tricky to use :P
[06:47] <TiK> gino_: you hve to add it to initd you dont jt put it in the dir
[06:47] <Blue1> Chaos2358: yes guayadeque
[06:48] <AbhiJit> Chaos2358, rhythmbox
[06:48] <Chaos2358> Blue1 thank you is it in the ubuntu sources already
[06:48] <Blue1> Chaos2358: http://pkill-9.com/wordpress/?p=174
[06:48] <gino_> TiK: Ah, none of the guides mentioned that, how would I do that?
[06:48] <Chaos2358> AbhiJit rythmbox wont go online and search for missing song info
[06:48] <Blue1> Chaos2358: it's in 10.10
[06:48] <AbhiJit> Chaos2358, ok
[06:49] <Chaos2358> Blue1 thank you again im navigating to the link now
[06:49] <Blue1> Chaos2358: this will work with 10.04 though (recipe I gave you above)
[06:49] <saivinoba> hi is it possible to access ubuntu's encrypted home from another distro?
[06:49] <Gryllida> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/803280 -- samba problem; did I get it right how to fix, do I need to paste the whole conf, and do I need to restart the os for the change in conf to take effect?
[06:49] <saivinoba> i tried to chroot and then ecryptfs-mount-private..but it gives some error..
[06:50] <Gryllida> saivinoba: if you know the username/password, most likely yes
[06:50] <Gryllida> saivinoba: all errors here, please
[06:50] <saivinoba> Gryllida: ok i logged into another machine will try again and post..
[06:51]  * Gryllida waves to #ubuntu about http://pastebin.mozilla.org/803280
[06:53] <mokkan> so the wireless problem i was having with maverick.. i tried the older kernel i had installed (2.6.32) and my wireless works perfectly now
[06:53] <mokkan> could this be a bug, or is there just something broken on my system?
[06:55] <gb__> yippeee vmware installed np :)
[06:55] <Ggtus> can i recieve help here?
[06:56] <hatake_kakashi> !maverick| mokkan
[06:56] <mokkan> is there a reason you keep flashing me with that messagE?
[06:57] <Doyle> Maverick was an awesome movie starring Mel Gibson about card games, guns, fast hands, and empty wallets.
[06:57] <silaru> join #kpli-bogor
 so the wireless problem i was having with maverick.. i tried the older kernel i had installed (2.6.32) and my wireless works perfectly now| could this be a bug, or is there just something broken on my system? could this be a bug, or is there just something broken on my system?
[06:57] <gb__> mokkan: you are on new maverick, its support is in #ubuntu_1 i think :p
[06:58] <mokkan> alright, see that's what i wanted
[06:58] <mokkan> thanks
[06:58] <hatake_kakashi> its also mentioned by the bot if you read what the bot said in full detail
[06:58] <Doyle> it's not ubuntu_1...
[06:58] <Doyle> it's ubuntu+1
[06:58] <gb__> Doyle: yes my bad ubuntu+1
[06:59] <gb__> Doyle: sowwy :)
[06:59] <G0di-> hey
[06:59] <Doyle> if you really want to get crazy try ubuntu+2  0o0
[06:59] <working_> is there anyone out there who has some experience diagnosing device permission issues? specifically a webcam? been at it for awhile now and am completely and profoundly stumped o_0
[06:59] <G0di-> im new on linux
[06:59] <G0di-> i need help
[06:59] <G0di-> i dont have audio :S
[06:59] <Eighteens> Tik, Thanks for the help earlier, it booted from the hd, and did update-grub, so i'm really happy!!!
[06:59] <G0di-> when i put alsamier on the terminal
[06:59] <G0di-> Card: USB Internet Phone by TigerJet                                         ?
[06:59] <G0di-> ? Chip: USB Mixer                                                              ?
[06:59] <G0di-> ? View: [Playback] Capture  All                                                ?
[06:59] <G0di-> ? Item: PCM
[06:59] <FloodBot3> G0di-: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:00] <TiK> Eighteens: very nice
[07:01] <scott__> bak
[07:01] <hatake_kakashi> I don't think USB audio is supported well, I could be wrong however
[07:01] <scott__> phil.. no go with the video .. changed it to 512 stil same issue:-(
[07:02] <dendrite> ok.  if i wanna see the linux source code, aside from downloading the kernel from kernel.org, how would i see it in ubuntu? (reason i ask is cuz is linux/open source is touted as "free".)  so where is it?
[07:02] <phil_in_london> scott, sorry about that, its about the only thing I could think that might help.
[07:02] <blakkheim> dendrite: apt-get source packagename
[07:02] <Eighteens> Tik, mind answering another question? Is there a image editor, package comprable to photoshop or better for ubuntu?
[07:02] <gb__> any luck scott__ ?
[07:02] <scott__> another thing i noticed was if i have music playing and i open up the wine config
[07:02] <dendrite> could i apt-get source ubuntu?
[07:02] <phil_in_london> Eighteens, Gimp
[07:02] <scott__> as soon as i click on the audio tab my music cuts out
[07:03] <TiK> Eighteens: the best option would be GIMP
[07:03] <hatake_kakashi> dendrite, its available in the ubuntu repository apt-get source linux-kernel iirc
[07:03] <scott__> no luck gb
[07:03] <phil_in_london> scott, yeah, wine is going to want to "OWN" the enviroment.
[07:03] <Eighteens> Oh thanks Phil_in_london
[07:03] <blakkheim> dendrite: no, you need the package name, linux-image-generic for example
[07:03] <dendrite> o ok ^^
[07:03] <dendrite> :)
[07:03] <dendrite> how exciting
[07:03] <scott__> so now picasa is out of the picture
[07:03] <scott__> its all about wine being the issue
[07:03] <TiK> Eighteens: enjoy linux
[07:03] <phil_in_london> scott, it always was about wine, picassa is just a by-product of the same issue.
[07:04] <gb__> scott__: did you get picasa from google site?
[07:04] <scott__> so just by opening up the wine config sound tab what would make my audio cut out?
[07:04] <phil_in_london> scott, as I said before, I don't have need for wine here, but are there settings in the config for it to tell it not to grab audio?
[07:05] <phil_in_london> scott, yeah, wine is grabbing the irq associated with sound at that time.
[07:05] <scott__> i did get picasa from google site yes
[07:05] <scott__> phil.. looks like i can switch drivers in there?
[07:05] <phil_in_london> scott, is there a disable sound option in the wine?
[07:05] <scott__> its set on alsa right now
[07:05] <gino_> TiK: So do I have to add a script to /etc/init.d? I thought 10.04 used upstart so it just needed a .conf file in /etc/init?
[07:06] <phil_in_london> scott, you could try to switch driver, is there an ASIO option?
[07:06] <TiK> gino_: no there is a command i forget initsomething you can find it off google
[07:06] <scott__> ALSA, OSS, JACK, NAS, OR EsouD
[07:06] <scott__> those are the options
[07:06] <gb__> scott__: try alsa
[07:07] <tyfighter> how come on ubuntu server, when I create a user with useradd, when they connect through ssh, there's no ascii colours or tab auto complete or anything. why is it different than the main account?
[07:07] <phil_in_london> scott, not sure if you're going to have a jack server running, but that might be the one that will "share" better than others.
[07:07] <scott__> alsa is checked already :-(
[07:07] <scott__> ill give jack a try
[07:07] <FusionX> ok, i used mbrfix.exe to fix mbr, now there's no option for ubuntu in mbr boot, how can i boot to ubuntu and install grub with mbr?
[07:07] <Eighteens> Tik, i'm loving the colors, it's so nice after looking at xp for the last nearly 10 years
[07:07] <phil_in_london> scott, oss is an option that will work, not sure if it will fix your problem, but it would be something you can select that wouldn't cause any problems.
[07:08] <TiK> Eighteens: ;)
[07:08] <Eighteens> i was never much for purple, but it's really growing on me :)
[07:08] <TiK> haha
[07:08] <scott__> jack still has issue
[07:08] <scott__> trying oss
[07:09] <Doyle> tyfighter: that command only adds the user, it doesn't setup the users environment
[07:09] <tyfighter> Doyle: how do I set up their environ?
[07:10] <scott__> i can uncheck all of them, tried it and still have the issue, just with even opening that tab in the wine config.. wierd
[07:10] <tigerx1078> witch program like tight vnc or vnc works on a mac to connect to differnt other os
[07:10] <phil_in_london> scott, but don't test by opening that tab.
[07:10] <phil_in_london> scott, change option, then test by opening picassa.
[07:10] <tigerx1078> sorry wrong room guys
[07:10] <Doyle> tyfighter: use 'sudo useradd -d /home/bob -m bob' then 'sudo passwd bob'
[07:11] <ahaios> hello
[07:11] <phil_in_london> scott, opening that tab is definitely going to cause the problem no matter what setting is in there, get back to the original issue, open picassa.
[07:11] <Doyle> tyfighter: you can use the adduser command instead, it's a little wizard type deal
[07:11] <ahaios> does anyone know any "msn" messenger for ubuntu that still supports camera?
[07:12] <mkquist_> FusionX: yeah you eliminated the grub options, so now you need to reinstall grub
[07:12] <tyfighter> Doyle: let me try one sec
[07:12] <mkquist_> FusionX: got a live cd?
[07:12] <mkquist_> FusionX: I hope
[07:12] <scott__> ok, opened picasa with the music running.. and it shut off
[07:12] <scott__> this is with all of the drivers unchecked in wine config
[07:13] <gb__> Doyle: what are you trying?
[07:13] <FusionX> mkquist_: yes, can u tell me how to install it with mbr?
[07:13] <mkquist_> FusionX: mbrfix takes care of windows, but thats all
[07:13] <phil_in_london> scott, looks like wine is an undisciplined little punk with behaviour problems :)
[07:13] <scott__> haha
[07:13] <mkquist_> FusionX: need a live cd
[07:13] <tyfighter> Doyle: it's still the same
[07:13] <scott__> yes it is
[07:13] <snow_v> hi
[07:13] <FusionX> mkquist_: i have it
[07:13] <Doyle>  gb__ um... right now I'm about half an oz into a new rum... not really doing anything else
[07:14] <scott__> i love pretty much everyting google has to offer, but.. why they have to go and screw this up is beyond me
[07:14] <phil_in_london> scott, well, at least you know exactly what your problem is, not ram its wine, now, how to replace picassa...I'm still at a loss, I've always understood picassa to be a website, yet you are running wine to run it.
[07:14] <gb__> Doyle: i meant whats the issue
[07:14] <mkquist_> FusionX: need to boot to the live cd and fix grub now
[07:14] <Doyle> tyfighter: ok, use the adduser command, type 'adduser --help' for an example
[07:14] <FusionX> mkquist_: i want to know how to install grub with mbr (without removing mbr)?
[07:14] <scott__> picasa has a web albums feature
[07:14] <Doyle>  gb__ Ah, he used useradd and didnt' get any environment set.
[07:15] <scott__> so you can store your photos in the cloud
[07:15] <working__> what is it that would cause permissions problems for webcam access (/dev/video0) for anyone but root? tried adding the user to the video group but that did nothing, and on my netbook where the webcame works, my user account there is not a member of video
[07:15] <mkquist_> FusionX: you don't 'remove' anything, you just need to let grub find the installs, windows and linux
[07:15] <phil_in_london> scott, http://picasa.google.com/linux/
[07:15] <scott__> but this is an app .. like fspot on steroids
[07:15] <gb__> ok Doyle
[07:15] <phil_in_london> perhaps just redownload the app?
[07:16] <tyfighter> hey doyle
[07:16] <gb__> scott__: sure is wierd
[07:16] <tyfighter> that seemed to do it
[07:16] <mkquist_> FusionX: check here for instance...  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[07:16] <tyfighter> odd
[07:16] <scott__> ive done it over and over again.. 32bit and 64bit even with installing both ubuntu versions
[07:16] <Doyle> working__: try 'You must give to the user (you) permission for use video devices. Go to System > Administration > Users and Groups. Unlock and select your username. In user privileges, you must enable the line "Capture video from TV or webcams, and use 3d acceleration", log off and log in
[07:16] <FusionX> mkquist_: ubuntu replaced mbr with grub when i installed ubuntu 10.04
[07:17] <Doyle> tyfighter: awesome, sometimes it's just about finding the working command
[07:17] <Gryllida>  how do I restart my client I use to access windows share?
[07:17] <Gryllida> /etc/init.d/smb: ERROR: cannot open `/etc/init.d/smb' (No such file or directory)
[07:17] <tyfighter> thanks
[07:17] <scott__> do you all use reg. ubuntu?
[07:17] <Gryllida> ?
[07:17] <Gryllida> 'reg.'?
[07:17] <scott__> ubuntu or kubuntu or xubuntu?
[07:17] <scott__> or any of the other ones
[07:17] <phil_in_london> just ubuntu here.
[07:18] <Doyle> scott__: this channel is for the ubuntu distribution, there are other channesl to get support for the others.
[07:18] <working__> Doyle: that option isn't there in the panel. and on my netbook where the camera works it isn't there either
[07:18] <scott__> ok ic
[07:18] <scott__> i just installed mint today
[07:18] <scott__> but came back to ubuntu
[07:19] <mkquist_> FusionX: well, not technically, at least it shouldn't, and has not with any of my installs, but grub2 does get a little confused, I've noticed with Win7, but that link should help... sometimes you have to 'help' grub with the windows partitions.  Like I said I've only found this to be true with Win7
[07:19] <phil_in_london> scott, so, is the biggest feature you need from picassa the cloud?
[07:19] <FusionX> okk
[07:19] <FusionX> *ok
[07:19] <scott__> no i dont even use that feature of picasa
[07:19] <Gryllida> scott__: ubuntu, not xubuntu and not kubuntu, thats what i am using
[07:19] <scott__> nice
[07:19] <Gryllida>  how do I restart my client I use to access windows share?
[07:19] <Gryllida> without logging out that is
[07:20] <scott__> i just use it to organize photos easily
[07:20] <scott__> and video
[07:20] <Gryllida> scott__: correct correct, that is what picasa is for
[07:20] <Doyle> working__: and you've added the users to the video group? checkout the permissions with 'ls -la /etc/video0'
[07:20] <scott__> and do redeye reduction, cropping and  abunch of other stuff
[07:20] <Gryllida> anyone has an idea on my question?
[07:20] <phil_in_london> scott, you might want to find time to learn gimp
[07:21] <Chaos2358>  do i remove software and all the crap that came with it if i downloaded it through terminal? it doesnt show up in ubuntu software center
[07:21] <working__> Doyle: when i run 'ls -la /etc/video0' i get 'ls: cannot access /etc/video0: No such file or directory' on both computers. working and not
[07:21] <Doyle> scott__: Chat in #ubuntu-offtopic if you don't need help. thanks
[07:21] <scott__> i know gimp, but thats not what im talking about
[07:21] <DarkSector> !empathy > DarkSector
[07:22] <scott__> im talking about pluggin in my digital camera and importing photos and video
[07:22] <Chaos2358> how do i remove software and all the crap that came with it if i downloaded it through terminal? it doesnt show up in ubuntu software center
[07:22] <scott__> being able to do that easily is the biggest thing because i take lots of photos
[07:22] <scott__> and lots of video
[07:22] <Doyle> working__: sorry, my bad, that dir doesn't exist in 10.04 anymore
[07:23] <scott__> then later on i wanna be able to browse through them, fix some redeye.
[07:23] <Chaos2358> how do i remove software and all the crap that came with it if i downloaded it through terminal? it doesnt show up in ubuntu software center
[07:23] <phil_in_london> scott, yeah, I understand that, still, since its nothing more than a mounted memory stick, I fail to see the difficulty in just using it naturally. It should in fact mount as a drive as soon as you plug it in, and thats with just stock ubuntu.
[07:23] <blakkheim> Chaos2358: what do you mean 'downloaded through terminal'
[07:23] <scott__> picasa automatically finds the eyes in the pictures and fixes redeye
[07:23] <Doyle> working__: 'ls -la /dev/video0
[07:23] <scott__> gimp no can do
[07:23] <phil_in_london> well, gimp can, but you need to add scripts to it.
[07:23] <scott__> right just a memeory stick
[07:24] <mkquist_> Chaos2358: dpkg?
[07:24] <Gryllida> what is 0775 file permission?
[07:24] <phil_in_london> oh well, I guess you're stuck running wine for your camera :(  such a waste.
[07:24] <mkquist_> Chaos2358: thats how you control the 'packages' at the command line at least
[07:24] <working__> Doyle: i get 'crw-rw---- 1 root video 81, 0 2010-09-29 14:08 /dev/video0' on the broken machine and 'crw-rw----+ 1 root video 81, 0 2010-09-29 14:08 /dev/video0' on the working machine. does that '+' mean anything?
[07:25] <scott__> well, there is a new photo app coming out
[07:25] <scott__> well.. its being worked on
[07:25] <Chaos2358> someone in here gave me a link and the link gave me instructions to download guayadeque step by step with alot of different packages i dont like it and want to remove it along with the other 200 mb of stuff it installed but it doesnt show up in ubuntu software center
[07:25] <scott__> i forget the name of it
[07:25] <mkquist_> Chaos2358: you can 'man' dkpg
[07:25] <working__> Doyle: i've verified that the device is seen with lsusb, and that drivers are loaded via lsmod. and the camera works as root happily.
[07:25] <mkquist_> Chaos2358: in terminal and it will give you the 'options'
[07:25] <phil_in_london> Gryllida, if you want all to have rw then   chmod a+wwwrrr myfile
[07:25] <scott__> ubuntu is going to start using it in base distro instead of fspot
[07:25] <Chaos2358> im really new to ubuntu so i have no idea what youre talking about mkquist
[07:25] <working__> Doyle: this is a built-in webcam on a laptop btw, if that makes any difference
[07:26] <Doyle> working__: yea, it's not a driver issue, it's a permissions thing. Lots of people have this issue
[07:26] <scott__> it has what im looking for but it wont import my video :-(
[07:26] <working__> Doyle: it just confuses me because a group problem would be the first thing i'd try, but my account on the working machine has no relation to the video group whatsoever that i can find
[07:26] <Gryllida> phil_in_london: is 0775 same as all have rw?
[07:27] <Gryllida> anyone, is 0775 same as all have rw?
[07:27] <Gryllida> (a+rw)
[07:27] <mkquist_> Chaos2358: well, if your talkin about command line and installing dkpg is how its done.  Thought that was your question...
[07:27] <phil_in_london> gryllida, a+rw is only going to effect the first of three sets of rights.
[07:27] <Doyle> Gryllida: it's read exe exe
[07:28] <phil_in_london> gryllida , a+rwrwrw or a+rrrwww or a+wwwrrr, that would allow everybody to read and write, want everybody to read but not write? a+rrr
[07:28] <scott__> shotwell
[07:29] <scott__> anyone use shotwell?
[07:29] <Chaos2358> mkquist ok lemme explain maybe you can help a guy gave me a link to a websit which had all of the commands needed to download and install guayadeque music manager but i dont like it and want to completelly remove it and everything else that came with it in a total of 203mb. how do i do it
[07:29] <Doyle> ok working__ try this 'sudo chown root /dev/video0'
[07:30] <moetunes> he's prob not in the video group
[07:30] <scott__> anyone running meerkat yet?
[07:30] <working__> Doyle: no change, but it was already owned by root according to the earlier ls of it
[07:30] <AbhiJit> scott__, all in #ubuntu+1 are running
[07:30] <Doyle> working__:  the goal is to get the + added
[07:30] <working__> and that's just how the dev file is created upon boot
[07:31] <scott__> ty abhijit
[07:31] <working__> Doyle: ahh (what does that + signify?)
[07:31] <ubuntu> hi
[07:32] <working__> Doyle: huh, now it works. looks like it just took a sec? o_0 (and answered my own question via google, ACLs heh)
[07:32] <snow_v> doi phu` du, ta biet dau ngay mai
[07:33] <mkquist_> Chaos2358: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto
[07:34] <TiK> hi
[07:34] <Doyle> working__: the + is a sticky bit, it's use don public folders
[07:34] <Chaos2358> mkquist thanx this helps alot
[07:35] <Doyle> working__: glad it worked. there's a command to change the sticky bit, but chown's just as quick in simple situations like yours
[07:35] <mkquist_> Chaos2358: here is an example of actually doing it.. but with a diff package of course.. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=16294
[07:35] <lactocoli> i think i have a unique problem. GT220 audio card that lets sound bypass via DVI with windows, but cant figure out with ubuntu
[07:35] <mkquist_> Chaos2358: hope I've helped
[07:35] <lactocoli> i will appreciate any suggestions
[07:35] <mkquist_> Chaos2358: take care
[07:35] <working__> Doyle: yeah, i'm looking stuff up now. i had *no* idea this functionality was there. i always wondered how ubuntu always worked for video/sound/etc without any user ever actually being added to those groups o_0
[07:36] <Doyle> working__:  it's the MAJOR difference in permissions with ubuntu
[07:36] <mkquist_> lactocoli: have you looked at the alsa page? http://www.alsa-project.org/
[07:36] <Doyle> working__: I really like it, makes the world a bit easier
[07:36] <lactocoli> mkquist I have. But sound through
[07:37] <lactocoli> DVI.. isnt that weird?
[07:37] <snow_v> dits
[07:37] <working__> Doyle: no doubt. thanks so very much for the help kind sir =)
[07:37] <Doyle> working__: anytime. enjoy the webcam.
[07:37] <mkquist_> Doyle: might be a work in progess...
[07:38] <mkquist_> Doyle: sry, wrong person
[07:38] <prabhu> hi i am using ubuntu10.04 i need to install packages simultaneously but i cant open synaptic package manager more than once  so my question is how can i use multiple synaptic manager?
[07:39] <mkquist_> prabhu: i think you can only open one at a time
[07:39] <phil_in_london> prabhu, why would you want to do that, how could it understand current dependencies?
[07:39] <mkquist_> prabhu: but you can install mutiple packages
[07:40] <prabhu> ya i know but for browsing packages i need it
[07:40] <mkquist_> prabhu: once one has a 'lock' on that its the only one allowed... not sure why you would want more that one though
[07:40] <prabhu> while installing some other packages
[07:41] <prabhu> so no other way to use it multiple times kis there any other software like synaptic manager
[07:41] <working__> Doyle: now to figure out why this happened when the webcam worked before and why pulseaudio stopped functioning at exactly the same time for no discrnable reason and no user-changes to the system >_<
[07:42] <phil_in_london> prabhu, all the different methods are going to lock the process, there is apt-get install, but it will do the same thing.
[07:42] <mkquist_> prabhu: nope
[07:42] <moetunes> there is apt-cache search
[07:43] <prabhu> thank you friends i understood
[07:43] <beefncheese> Ryen, needaa tlkk to you mannggg
[07:44] <Doyle> working__: the answer will be in /var/log/kern.log or maybe even Xorg.0.log if it's hardware prompted
[07:44] <FusionX> mkquist_: i don't want to remove windows bootloader, i want to be able to boot to ubuntu with windows bootloader (like as in wubi, one can boot to ubuntu with windows bootloader.)
[07:45] <working__> Doyle: yep, but that's for tomorrow. for now, beer then sleep =)
[07:46] <Doyle> working__: good luck. oh, check /var/log/debug also.
[07:47] <MooshiMuushi> Hey Everyone ;)
[07:47] <mkquist_> FusionX: grub2, wont 'remove' anything.  It will just find the operating systems and hand off the boot loading the whatever is installed.  I've used it for winXp and win7 with sucess, but like I said, from my experience, it can get a little 'confused' with win7
[07:47] <mkquist_> FusionX: it doesnt take away anything, it just links to whatever is installed
[07:48] <FusionX> mkquist_: windows bootloader -> grub -> ubuntu. is that possible?
[07:48] <blakkheim> switch grub and the windows one
[07:48] <MooshiMuushi> Open (not Free) BSD is a good program to add or delete operating systems in from the bootloader.
[07:48] <Doyle> FusionX: talk like that won't get you any friends.
[07:49] <phil_in_london> ha!
[07:49] <FusionX> Doyle: ?
[07:49] <blakkheim> did you just call openbsd a "program" lol
[07:49] <Doyle> windows bootloader... *shakes head* lol
[07:49] <mkquist_> FusionX: never done it, never needed to, so never tried.  Grub seems to be the easier answer, windows like to just play with itself... no jokes, just an observation...  you can google that part
[07:49] <FusionX> ok thanks for the info
[07:50] <phil_in_london> windows bloatloader
[07:50] <Holty> easy BCD is a windows bootloader to restore the windows bootloader
[07:50] <mkquist_> FusionX: really, I've read that you can use windows boot loader, but why bother?
[07:50] <mkquist_> FusionX: grub does do it fine... Hell, this machine dual boots winxp and ubuntu and has for years fine
[07:51] <MooshiMuushi> Isn't OpenBSD a program that allows the user to add and remove operating systems within "Windows BootLoader"?
[07:51] <MooshiMuushi> *Googles*
[07:51] <mkquist_> FusionX: I just found that while the new grub... grub2 has many advantages, it does get a little confused w/win7
[07:51] <phil_in_london> mooshi, it is an operating system.
[07:51] <Doyle> MooshiMuushi: OpenBSD is a linux distribution, I'm not suer what he was talking about
[07:52] <mkquist_> MooshiMuushi: no OpenBSD is a different form of linux
[07:52] <blakkheim> no
[07:52] <mkquist_> MooshiMuushi: very similar, to OSX
[07:52] <blakkheim> openbsd is not linux
[07:52] <blakkheim> at all
[07:52] <MooshiMuushi> EASYBCD!!!!
[07:52] <MooshiMuushi> That's it :)
[07:52] <mkquist_> blakkheim: ok a kernel... fine then
[07:52] <MooshiMuushi> Doyle, mkquist_ , I see :D
[07:52] <mkquist_> blakkheim: sorry for that
[07:53] <greppy> mkquist_: actually, OpenBSD is not a different form of linux :)
[07:53] <blakkheim> mkquist_: it's more than a kernel too
[07:53] <Doyle> blakkheim: haha, it's unix... POSIX compati anyway
[07:53] <MooshiMuushi> EasyBCD was what I was talking about ;) Sorry.
[07:53] <AbhiJit> !ot
[07:53] <mkquist_> blakkheim: i stand corrected, but its not a 'boot loader'.... lol
[07:53] <navetz> can someone help me getting my ati card working on ubuntu?
[07:53] <mkquist_> sry, i thing this is trying to go off topic... just got checked...
[07:54] <MooshiMuushi> Anyway, enough about "EasyBCD". I have a question! :D
[07:54] <mkquist_> AbhiJit: sry for that, got lost
[07:54] <Doyle> it's kinda slow anyway. Whats' the Q MooshiMuushi
[07:54] <MooshiMuushi> Is there a way to use both ethernet + wireless at the same time. Windows could do it ;) I'm very sure Linux/Ubuntu can :D
[07:54] <Chaos2358> mkquist i used the information you gave me but it didnt work. it is saying that the package is not found when i try to remove it through command line i used the kpackage kit too and it isnt finging it please help
[07:55] <AbhiJit> mkquist_, np
[07:55] <Doyle> MooshiMuushi: plug in the cat5 cable and connect to the WAN
[07:55] <mkquist_> AbhiJit: =)
[07:55] <MooshiMuushi> Doyle, I'm with Ubuntu so..eh :D
[07:55] <MooshiMuushi> Doyle, Sorry, can you go into more detail?
[07:55] <Doyle> MooshiMuushi: not much benefit other than redundancy if the wireless is on a different line than the cat5
[07:56] <mkquist_> I think this started as a dual boot question..
[07:56] <mkquist_> MooshiMuushi: it's a dual boot problem no?
[07:56] <mkquist_> MooshiMuushi: trying to boot windows/ubuntu... correct?
[07:56] <MooshiMuushi> Doyle, I remember reading about this, and the thread said that Ubuntu will put the ethernet cable priority ahead of wireless.
[07:56] <mkquist_> sry, started with FusionX
[07:57] <mkquist_> FusionX: are you still here? and have a boot problem?
[07:57] <FusionX> no
[07:57] <MooshiMuushi> mkquist_, Nono, I'm 100% Ubuntu :)
[07:57] <mkquist_> sry then.. my bad
[07:57] <Doyle> MooshiMuushi: hardline will have priority 100% of the time. THe only situation where wireless takes priority is on mobile devices
[07:57] <MooshiMuushi> Doyle, Therefore cutting the internet from the wireless.
[07:57] <MooshiMuushi> Doyle, Mobile Devices? Laptops?
[07:58] <Doyle> MooshiMuushi: wireless enabled cell phones
[07:58] <FusionX> mkquist_: i wanted to use plop with windows bootloader, thats why i asked.
[07:58] <greppy> Doyle: wireless will have priority if is the default route
[07:58] <zshleon> finally...
[07:58] <Chaos2358> ok can someone help me? i followed the command line instructions given to me in a link to install GUayadeque as well as alot of stuff with it. I now cant figure out how to remove it because it isnt showing up with apt-get purge guayadeque
[07:58] <zshleon> 折腾了半天，终于进来了
[07:58] <moetunes> !cn
[07:59] <Doyle> greppy: but that'd have to be configured, obviously he hasn't reached that point yet. I don't think there's a way to load balance network traffic with the default install of ubuntu.
[07:59] <mkquist_> FusionX: ic
[07:59] <MooshiMuushi> Doyle, So you're saying that using both Ethernet and Wireless works?
[07:59] <MooshiMuushi> Doyle, At the same time that is.
[07:59] <Doyle> MooshiMuushi: if you want to utilize both connections you need to find a 'load balancing' solution for your networks
[07:59] <Chaos2358> ok can someone help me? i followed the command line instructions given to me in a link to install GUayadeque as well as alot of stuff with it. I now cant figure out how to remove it because it isnt showing up with apt-get purge guayadeque
[07:59] <moetunes> Chaos2358:  you obviously didn't use the package manager to install it so ofc it won't show
[07:59] <MooshiMuushi> Doyle, Load Balancing?
[08:00] <Chaos2358> moetunes so how do i remove it?
[08:00] <mkquist_> FusionX: advantage over grub... just curious, seems to need grub
[08:00] <moetunes> Chaos2358:  did you have to do configure and make install for it/
[08:00] <moetunes> ?
[08:01] <Doyle> MooshiMuushi: yea, load balancing is a methodology utilized in computing (and other things) to distribute requests to multiple resources relatively evenly (balanced)
[08:01] <Chaos2358> moetunes yes. i think
[08:01] <moetunes> !checkinstall | Chaos2358
[08:01] <MooshiMuushi> Doyle, Do you want me to explain the situation to you, so that this will be more easier for you?
[08:01] <Doyle> MooshiMuushi: I think Pgpost2 is your solution... greppy do you have another suggestion?
[08:01] <FusionX> mkquist_: can u link me a tutorial of how to configure grub so that -> first it boots to windows bootloader -> grub -> ubuntu. like as in wubi.
[08:01] <moetunes> Chaos2358:  check in the build dir to see if there is an uninstall script
[08:02] <MooshiMuushi> Doyle, ?
[08:02] <mkanyicy> How can I stop the "Broadcast Accounts" window from popping up all the time on ubuntu?
[08:02] <Doyle> MooshiMuushi: sure, what's your goal?
[08:03] <Chaos2358> moetunes forgive my stupidity but who where when what why and how
[08:03] <Chaos2358> moetunes the web page i got the command lines from has no removal instructions
[08:03] <moetunes> Chaos2358:  I'm too far away to see how you installed it...
[08:04] <Doyle> mkanyicy: new install? Have you applied all updates and restarted twice?
[08:04] <Chaos2358> ok want the command lines i used?
[08:04] <ehsan_> ehsantux
[08:04] <Chaos2358> moetunes want the command lines i used?
[08:04] <mkquist_> FusionX: not sure even what your asking?  grub will link to windows, but I'm thinking you are trying something different...  Grub links to other O/S's and hands off the boot the them...  at least as I understand it.
[08:04] <mkanyicy> Doyle, very old update
[08:04] <mkquist_> FusionX: exotic operating systems maybe?
[08:04] <moetunes> Chaos2358:  ypasye 'em then
[08:04] <mkanyicy> Doyle, i mean very old install, I am up to date
[08:04] <moetunes> Chaos2358:  paste 'em then
[08:04] <Funhouse> hi there, i plugged my external hd in, how do i view it in th console, its not showin with df
[08:04] <Doyle> FusionX: have a peek at this, maybe a bit dated but should get you started. http://www.geocities.com/epark/linux/grub-w2k-HOWTO.html
[08:05] <Chaos2358> moetunes first i used this sudo add-apt-repository ppa:anonbeat/guayadeque
[08:05] <Chaos2358> sudo apt-get update
[08:05] <Chaos2358> sudo apt-get install guayadeque-svn
[08:05] <MooshiMuushi> I have a PS3, and I stream my videos to the PS3 via the Ethernet Cable (doing this will allow faster transfer then Wireless). I connect the Ethernet cable to the PC to transfer the videos, but whenever I do, my wireless internet will cut. Therefore leaving me with my laptop with no internet, but i need the internet to do other thing. Is there a way to allow both Ethernet and Wireless to work at the same time?
[08:05] <MooshiMuushi> Oops.
[08:05] <Chaos2358> moetunes then this svn co http://guayadeque.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/guayadeque/Trunk guayadeque
[08:05] <mkquist_> FusionX: will look see
[08:05] <prabhu> iam using virtualbox i need to share files can some one guide me plz..and my virtual os was windowsxp
[08:06] <Doyle> mkanyicy: all the passwords stored are correct?
[08:06] <MooshiMuushi> prabhu, I can help.
[08:06] <mkquist_> FusionX: ok at first glance that's old
[08:06] <mkquist_> FusionX: so the point is?
[08:06] <mkanyicy> Yes, Doyle
[08:06] <shadaloo> greetz
[08:06] <Chaos2358> moetunes better yet here is the link i got them from it will probably help more http://pkill-9.com/wordpress/?p=174&cpage=1#comment-4915
[08:06] <mkquist_> FusionX: wow, back in the win2000 days
[08:07] <shadaloo> can I burn a cd-r in the live CD?
[08:07] <prabhu> mooshimuushi :thank u  first i need to share files c
[08:07] <shadaloo> can I burn a cd-r in the live CD?
[08:07] <MooshiMuushi> prabhu, First open VirtualBox. Then click on "Settings". That will open a new window, click on shared folder and enter in the location of the folder that you want to share.
[08:07] <prabhu> who to do that mooshi
[08:08] <prabhu> k where can i view my shared files in my virtual os
[08:08] <moetunes> Chaos2358:  there's no way I'm going through all that
[08:08] <MooshiMuushi> prabhu, Sorry, then click on the image with the green plus sign on it.
[08:08] <Chaos2358> moetunes ok
[08:08] <mkquist_> FusionX: all that is, is an old 'how to install grub' howto... but grub has gotten a lot more sophisticated  since this was written
[08:08] <moetunes> Chaos2358:  man find for creation time for files is your best bet
[08:08] <Chaos2358> moetunes ok how do i do that?
[08:09] <MooshiMuushi> prabhu, A new window will pop-up. Click on the arrow and then click on "Others". This will allow you to browse around and find your folder.
[08:09] <moetunes> Chaos2358:  in terminal type   man man   to learn about manpages
[08:09] <MooshiMuushi> Doyle, Are you there?
[08:09] <Chaos2358> moetunes sorry for being illeterate so to speak but ive been using ubuntu for about a week now
[08:09] <Chaos2358> ok
[08:09] <Firebird> good morning
[08:09] <tech_> good morning
[08:09] <shadaloo> what's the easiest way to burn a driver for windows?
[08:09] <shadaloo> I have a hard drive that's formatted for Windows but must install a driver for Windows
[08:09] <shadaloo> can someone please suggest a way to burn?
[08:10] <Doyle> MooshiMuushi: yea
[08:10] <mkquist_> Chaos2358: if you open a terminal and type "man.. whatever" its the user manual for linux is all
[08:10] <MooshiMuushi> prabhu, Did that help?
[08:10] <moetunes> Chaos2358:  and you did something without any research it seems - it is a hard thing to undo - check for an uninstall script
[08:10] <Guest11734> first time back on a chat for ages
[08:10] <mkquist_> Chaos2358: like man k3b for instance
[08:10] <MooshiMuushi> Doyle, sent you a message.
[08:10] <Guest11734> didn't touch an IRC for at least 10 years
[08:10] <tech_> Well i got xubuntu and i don't get any sound at all ^^" weird
[08:10] <tech_> use nickserve to reserve a nickname for you
[08:10] <Doyle> MooshiMuushi: you need to look into 2 things 'load balancing network ubuntu' and 'dual nick route traffic ubuntu'. You need a way to direct all http traffic to wireless only.
[08:11] <Chaos2358> moetunes yea i was looking for a music manager and followed the link thinking it was what i was looking for but it wasnt
[08:11] <mkquist_> FusionX: hope that helps
[08:11] <shadaloo> can someone please suggest a way to burn?
[08:11] <MooshiMuushi> Doyle, "direct all http traffic to wireless only." Does that mean I have to change my way of stream to wireless?
[08:11] <Doyle> MooshiMuushi: if you can get the load balancing going, which I think will be easier and better, your issues will be solved
[08:11] <moetunes> Chaos2358:  since it is a new install it might be quicker to just reinstall ubuntu
[08:12] <Flreblrd> that's the thing
[08:12] <moetunes> 20 min here for that
[08:12] <FusionX> mkquist_: i want to boot into ubuntu just like as in wubi i.e. first it boots to windows bootloader -> grub -> ubuntu.
[08:12] <Chaos2358> well it may be a new install but ive done a shit load to it in this week
[08:12] <tech_> :/
[08:12] <Doyle> MooshiMuushi: if you find a way to direct either application traffic (firefox i assume) or http traffic through the wireless device you'll have to remember to disable this option if wireless dies for some reason.
[08:12] <mkquist_> FusionX: did you install ubuntu on a separate partition?
[08:13] <shadaloo> YO
[08:13] <shadaloo> what program burns files
[08:13] <shadaloo> !topic
[08:13] <phil_in_london> tech_ is it just muted? That happened to me with this install, everything setup properly, it just had mute turned on.
[08:13] <FusionX> mkquist_: yes
[08:13] <mkquist_> FusionX: then grub, or more likely grub2 is your friend at this point...
[08:13] <mkquist_> shadaloo: k3b is just one of many burning programs
[08:13] <prabhu> mooshimuushi: but i didnt get the way to see my shared folders but i did what u instruct
[08:13] <shadaloo> mkquist_: thx
[08:13] <MooshiMuushi> Doyle, Ok then. I have to research these things and then I'll be able to understand you ;D
[08:14] <Doyle> shadaloo: cdw
[08:14] <MooshiMuushi> prabhu, So you added the shared folder?
[08:14] <mkquist_> FusionX: just google it, the ubuntu forums have a nice how too on grub 2 and its install/reinstall
[08:14] <tech_> what would be the most light xfce alternative.. right now on ICEWM
[08:14] <navetz> how to I re-setup my xorg
[08:14] <prabhu> ya
[08:14] <navetz> i installed some propritary drivers for ati
[08:15] <Doyle> MooshiMuushi: yea, start with learing about load balancing, it's not difficult, just new to you.  go from there
[08:15] <MooshiMuushi> prabhu, Now, login to Windows. Start --> Computer --> *Look on the left side of the window* Click on Network.
[08:15] <navetz> and then everything broke
[08:15] <jimishol> hi, can you lead me to a room or site where can i find informations about buying cpu, motherboard or generally to build a pc most compatible with ubuntu? i.ve installed ubuntu to many devices but i would like to see it just running in my new pc that i will get. txs
[08:15] <MooshiMuushi> Doyle, Ok then. Do you mind if I ask you some more question later on?
[08:16] <KillGuta> Guys, can I take the free space from a windows partition and add it to my linux partition?
[08:16] <Doyle> MooshiMuushi: Sure, I'm here often. If not just leave me messages. With network load balancing you should speciffically look for 'network bonding ubuntu' and I think you'll find some good instructions online
[08:16] <Doyle> MooshiMuushi: bonding basically makes both connections act as one
[08:16] <prabhu> mooshimuushi:i am now in network and internet connections on windowsxp
[08:17] <MooshiMuushi> Doyle, I found thi website that looked ok ;D http://www.howtoforge.com/network_bonding_ubuntu_6.10
[08:17] <Flreblrd> jimishol, just take any non-cutting-edge computer, and it'll work
[08:17] <greppy> MooshiMuushi: do you want to have all traffic go through both connections, or just be able to access your PS3 and wireless at the same time?
[08:17] <MooshiMuushi> greppy, PS3 and Wireless at the same time.
[08:17] <Flreblrd> KillGuta, you can if you did set up LVM, otherwise you can just create another partition to have it mount as /home for ex
[08:17] <Doyle> MooshiMuushi: that'll get you started, but 6.10 is a bit dated, be careful because 10.04 is quite different... I don't think you can break anything too bad though so don't worry too much.
[08:18] <KillGuta> Flreblrd, what's LVM?
[08:18] <MooshiMuushi> Doyle, BREAK?!?!
[08:18] <greppy> MooshiMuushi: the PS3 is on a differeint IP subnet than your wireless?
[08:18] <Flreblrd> KillGuta, it's Logical Volume Management. That's some good thing making you possible to change linux partition sizes on the fly
[08:18] <Doyle> greppy: I'm trying to give him a solution that won't affect the portability of his system and won't prevent any applications from accessing the network if one source goes down.
[08:19] <Flreblrd> KillGuta, but if you didn't install linux using LVM, you won't be able to change an existing partition anymore
[08:19] <greppy> Doyle: the PS3 network is not connected to the internet.
[08:19] <MooshiMuushi> prabhu, Computer --> Look left of the window and click on "Network" There you will find the shared folder.
[08:19] <Doyle> MooshiMuushi: networking is 50/50, half the time the stuff we do breaks stuff, half the time it works out... we just shovel up the 50% that works so it seems like we're awesome
[08:19] <greppy> Doyle: if his wifi goes down, he still can't go anywhere
[08:19] <prabhu> mooshimuushi:iam now in network places on virtual
[08:20] <MooshiMuushi> greppy, Yes, PS3 is on 223.0.0.1 (IP Address) and LAPTOP is on (192.168.1.3).
[08:20]  * G0di- is away: i like LINUX!
[08:20] <MooshiMuushi> prabhu, Is it there?
[08:20] <greppy> MooshiMuushi: I have to ask, why 223.0.0.1?
[08:20] <prabhu> no i cant find it
[08:20] <Doyle> greppy: yea but if his NIC is bound to a specific device or protocol he's nuts'd if his wireless goes down. A balancing solution would be redundant and not reliant on any application or portocol solution
[08:20] <MooshiMuushi> Doyle, I'm scared now...
[08:21] <MooshiMuushi> greppy, I can change it to my laptop's IP address. I just find it easy to do 223.0.0.1 :D
[08:21] <jimishol> i think that i've changed partition's length several times with gparted from livecd because i needed these partitions not mounted
[08:21] <greppy> Doyle: all he needs is to have both nicks up at the same time, have the wireless be the default gateway.
[08:21] <prabhu> mooshimuushi:i find only shared documents not shared folders
[08:22] <Doyle> MooshiMuushi: you should be, networking can ruin a good tech leaving him weaving baskets the rest of his days.... be afraid
[08:22] <Flreblrd> jimishol, yes, but it's not intended to be. While LVM is specifically done for that
[08:22] <MooshiMuushi> Doyle, I'm having a read right now, and chatting with Grpeey about it. I'm sure you can see our conversation right?
[08:22] <phil_in_london> yeah, I'd put the ps3 at 192.168.1.2 or 192.168.1.4, all set.
[08:22] <Eryn_1983_FL> hey peeps
[08:22] <MooshiMuushi> prabhu, Check again in the settings place to see if you set the folder to share correctly.
[08:22] <greppy> MooshiMuushi: using one of the other RFC1918 IPs would be a better solution for your PS3 network, but we'll get to that later.
[08:23] <Eryn_1983_FL> was wondering if it would be  easier to tunnel samba  requests over a wan or  to just do a vpn
[08:23] <MooshiMuushi> Doyle, Ahaha, Love your jokes :D
[08:23] <MooshiMuushi> greppy, RFC1918?!?! Ahh, so much to learn. :D
[08:24] <phil_in_london> eryn, does it have to be samba? got windows clients do you?
[08:24] <prabhu> mooshimuushi:i checked in device->shared folders on virtual os it shows i shared but i cant find it
[08:24] <Flreblrd> Eryn_1983_FL, yeah, just do a vpn
[08:24] <Doyle> whos joking... get into cisco and foundery commands and network setups and you'll understand
[08:24] <Eryn_1983_FL> well samba is already setup on the network
[08:25] <Eryn_1983_FL> now i am lookin at the  faq
[08:25] <Eryn_1983_FL> at the bottom of  bridge vs  routed  vpns
[08:25] <Doyle> OK MooshiMuushi I'm going to play some AssaultCube then hit the sack. Had a long night of partying...
[08:25] <KillGuta> Why do some programs only see 300GB of my HD when it has 320GB?
[08:25] <Doyle> good luck. Thanks also to greppy
[08:25] <Eryn_1983_FL> it says to routing is  better if you want to do  file sharing  without setting up a wins or  samba server.
[08:26] <MooshiMuushi> Doyle, Ahaha, Ok. By the way. Urban Terror is better. :)
[08:26] <MooshiMuushi> Doyle, Later.
[08:27] <jimishol> KillGuta perhaps it uses different unit when measure GB i wouldn't mind
[08:27] <graemer_> join #ubuntu-powerpc
[08:28] <Eryn_1983_FL> ok just had a crazy thought of how to get the dataoff my fiends harddrive..
[08:28] <Eryn_1983_FL> netcat...
[08:29] <Soraya> hi guys
[08:29] <jimishol> if i chose check system then some message send to a database about my hardware. where can i see this database?
[08:29] <Soraya> everytime i shutdown my oc a Kubuntu logoff screen shows
[08:29] <FusionX> mkquist_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows#Preserving%20Windows%20Bootloader is that the way?
[08:30] <Soraya> becaus i installa a kde package to have something like fences
[08:30] <Soraya> i m not sure if it was kde-desktop
[08:30] <Soraya> or kubuntu desktop
[08:32] <Soraya> i have ubuntu 10.4
[08:33] <mkquist_> FusionX: that is
[08:33] <mkquist_> FusionX: a way
[08:33] <gaelfx> !enter
[08:34] <mkquist_> FusionX: the link i gave is another
[08:34] <FusionX> mkquist_: which link?
[08:35] <Flreblrd> jimishol, are you talking about the command dmesg ?
[08:35] <Flreblrd> jimishol, or are you talking about the logs in /var/log/
[08:36] <Kurdistan> guys when will usb creating bootable disk be fixed under maverick?
[08:36] <mkquist_> FusionX: they both install grub...  If you are using a current ubuntu install, id go with grub2, its what ubuntu now uses
[08:36] <jimishol> i don't know i use greek version let me check.../usr/bin/checkbox-gtk
[08:37] <Flreblrd> ubottu, heh... I remember saying that numerous times. that hitting "Enter" habit is a pain for those who actually try to read the whole channel
[08:37] <FusionX> mkquist_: i meant a way for - windows bootloader -> grub -> ubuntu.
[08:37] <mkquist_> FusionX: my link... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows  if your using the newest ubuntu install "If you fresh-installed Ubuntu Karmic 9.10 or newer, you are running Grub2."
[08:38] <Soraya> how can i remove kde desktop to keep genome
[08:38] <mkquist_> FusionX: so you want to use windows boot loader instead of grub? is that the question?
[08:38] <beefncheese> can anyone here help me with mpd and ncmpc
[08:38] <Evo11> Morning. Can anyone tell me what will cause a ubuntu server to stop allowing a windows machine from accessing the server?
[08:38] <Flreblrd> Soraya, you can use Synaptic package manager, or simply select the GNOME Environment at the login screen before you log in
[08:38] <mkquist_> FusionX: cause its usually grub/windows boot loader... at least thats what I've seen, and easier
[08:39] <gaelfx> Soraya: open Synaptic Package Manager and remove the package kde-desktop
[08:39] <FusionX> nvm i got it, thx anyway
[08:39] <mkquist_> FusionX: see, grub can easily boot to linux/anything and windows, but the other way around...  harder
[08:39] <jimishol> Firedblrd, i try to decide about cpu and motherboard proper for ubuntu before byuing pc but i'm not familiar with hardware specs unfortunately. so i look for some sort of database
[08:39] <gaelfx> Soraya: also Flreblrd's suggestion about changing at login is pretty handy ;)
[08:39] <Soraya> gaelfx, Thanks,,i try that
[08:39] <mak_> any1 who can help me access tv tuner card..rit nw recieving hardware overlay surface error, am a newbie
[08:39] <Flreblrd> gaelfx, :)
[08:40] <Soraya> Flreblrd, I keep that in mind
[08:40] <beefncheese> !info sl
[08:41] <Evo11> Morning. Can anyone tell me what will cause a ubuntu server to stop allowing a windows machine from accessing the server?
[08:41] <Flreblrd> jimishol, aaah I see.. well there sure is a database for videocards, as some are well supported and some not so well supported. You'll find that list on the www.xfree86.org website. All other standard hardware will be supported by Ubuntu
[08:42] <Flreblrd> Evo11, what is that server serving ? it could be numerous things.. like a bad configuration on either computer, a firewall rule, a bad routing, aso..
[08:42] <jimishol> many, txs
[08:42] <mkquist_> Evo11: samba got funked up maybe? or quit working... !samba
[08:43] <mkquist_> !samba
[08:43] <Flreblrd> !cool
[08:43] <Flreblrd> ah.. doesn't work
[08:43] <Evo11> Using it as a file host. What l don't understand is it was working fine then all of a sudden none of the windows machines can't seem to access the server
[08:43] <Evo11> sorry not file host but a file server
[08:44] <Flreblrd> Evo11, does any other computer access the same file server ?
[08:44] <Eryn_1983_FL> hey peeps  back again i know
[08:44] <Flreblrd> wb Eryn_1983_FL
[08:44] <Eryn_1983_FL> does ntfs-config fix dirty windows ntfs filesystems
[08:44] <mak_> anyone 2 help me with tv tuner card...nt able 2 run tvtime recieving hardware overlay error
[08:44] <Evo11> there are 2 other machines but none of them can access it now
[08:44] <Eryn_1983_FL> or  do i have to boot the stupid  disk with windcd
[08:44] <Eryn_1983_FL> or ntfsfix?
[08:44] <phil_in_london> evol1, did you change your samba config or do any updates at the server?
[08:45] <Flreblrd> Eryn_1983_FL, nothing can fix a dirty NTFS filesystem on linux
[08:45] <Eryn_1983_FL> ugh i gota  boot  windows cd then  damn
[08:45] <gaelfx> Eryn_1983_FL: what do you mean by 'dirty'?
[08:45] <Evo11> no none at all.I only did updates after l couldn't get access from the window machines and that still didn't help
[08:45] <Eryn_1983_FL> i can't mount it in  linux its  dirty  the bit has been set
[08:45]  * Flreblrd never saw any intelligent disk... they all stay quiet and don't move
[08:46] <gaelfx> Eryn_1983_FL: did you try to reset the flags using gparted?
[08:46] <Eryn_1983_FL> no i don't know how
[08:46] <iirciphn> morning
[08:46] <phil_in_london> Evol1, have you done any testing? For example, are you able to create a new share that they can see?
[08:46] <mak_> ??
[08:47] <Flreblrd> mak_, obviously no one can help you with your TV card
[08:47] <Evo11> no not that but l will try that now
[08:47] <phil_in_london> Evol1, can those machines ping the server, or vice versa?
[08:47] <mak_> huh, ohh why is that so?
[08:47] <gaelfx> Eryn_1983_FL: I suggest giving GParted a go, should be easy enough to find in the software center, if you play around with it, you might find the problem
[08:47] <ganeshran> Hi Can wvdial record data transfer as well?
[08:48] <Evo11> This is the error l got when l tried to share the folder "'net usershare' returned error 255: net usershare add: cannot convert name "Everyone" to a SID. Invalid parameter."
[08:48] <phil_in_london> everyone is a bad name
[08:48] <Evo11> yes they can ping the server
[08:48] <Flreblrd> mak_, probably because not everybody uses a TV tuner.. and on top of that they all are different. You can't be sure to use the knowledge gathered with 1 model to be used on the other model
[08:48] <phil_in_london> its a commonly used groupname
[08:48] <phil_in_london> try something else.
[08:48] <Eryn_1983_FL> ok
[08:48] <ganeshran> is there a linux program which can record my data transfer like how man GBs up and down
[08:49] <gaelfx> Eryn_1983_FL: when you say "the bit is set," what exactly do you mean?
[08:49] <Flreblrd> ganadist, you'll wanna use tcpdump or something alike to record the data
[08:49] <toolbox> hi all
[08:49] <toolbox> can someone please help me wiht a little problem i am having with ubuntu server 9.10/
[08:49] <gaelfx> !ask | toolbox
, i have been behind this now for days
[08:49] <AbhiJit> toolbox, #ubuntu-server
[08:49] <Flreblrd> ganeshran, forget what I said about tcpdump.. you just want a transfer accounting software and yes, that exists. But wvdial is not the one you're searching.
[08:50] <Eryn_1983_FL> it means  i have now shut down the system properly in windows  casue it hangs and now i cant mount it in linux  either to  copy the files off
[08:50] <Evo11> when l try to access the server from my window's machine l get the error "server is not accessible.You might not have permission to use this network resource
[08:50] <ganeshran> Flreblrd: I only want to record the amount of data transferred
[08:50] <Flreblrd> mak_, I remember setting one up 12 years ago.. and remember the pain it was
[08:50] <ganeshran> Not the data itself. I am paying huge bills on my net connection :(
[08:50] <phil_in_london> evol1, have you allowed read access in your config?
[08:50] <gaelfx> Eryn_1983_FL: ah, well, I think the only way is to mount it in Win and then safely remove it
[08:50] <Flreblrd> ganeshran, yup, I understand what you want... searching the application doing that on freshmeat could be an idea
[08:51] <mak_> :)......no i think ineed to go through those
[08:51] <mak_> now* i need to...
[08:51] <Flreblrd> ganeshran, usually I do that using my DSL modem.. it's a Fritz!Box, so it has that all included
[08:51] <gaelfx> Eryn_1983_FL: I'm pretty sure GParted can't even pull off that magic
[08:51] <Evo11> far as l know yes l have cos it was working up till 2days ago
[08:51] <phil_in_london> Evol1, have you been changing any rights on the server at all? Been using chmod or chgrp lately?
[08:52] <Evo11> no nothing at all
[08:52] <ganeshran> Flreblrd: I have a wireless data card, and they don ahve a server side logging software. But its horriblly outdated and takes 2-3 days to update
[08:52] <Flreblrd> phil_in_london, Evo11 has it stopped working since he last updated samba to a newer version
[08:52] <phil_in_london> yeah, that was my first question
[08:52] <Evo11> once the server was first setup l would only log onto it when l think there are updates for ubuntu
, i wish i had been using windows now
[08:53] <Flreblrd> mak_ for a tv tuner ? arf :)
[08:53] <Eryn_1983_FL> i'l just boot a  cd  of windows xp then  hehe
[08:53] <Evo11> no. I updated the server when it had stop allowing my window machines to gain access
[08:53] <norman_> como accedo al de spanish
[08:53] <Flreblrd> ganeshran, yes, you search something like MRTG in fact
[08:53] <tensorpudding> !es | norman_
[08:53] <Evo11> the last resort for me is to format and then re-install the server
[08:53] <Flreblrd> ganeshran, trying to find some kind of similar application for you
[08:53] <ganeshran> Flreblrd: what is MRTG?
, bcos things are bit easy there
[08:53] <ganeshran> Flreblrd: Thanks :)
[08:53] <gaelfx> mak_: I think Mythbuntu forums might be a better place to look for help with a tuner card, most of those folks tend to know about those things
[08:54] <gaelfx> mak_: or xbmc
[08:54] <phil_in_london> Evol1, what rw rights are set on the folder you are sharing?  Eg:   -rwxr-xr-x 1 phil phil 104 2010-09-27 12:26 test
[08:54] <Flreblrd> ganeshran, MRTG is an application taking the count of traffic going through routers or SNMP-able equipment
[08:54] <Flreblrd> mak_, no pain... no gain :)
[08:55] <Flreblrd> xbmc rocks... I must say.. that's a fine development they did there
[08:55] <Evo11> I just have normal read and write options on the folders that l need to have access to from the workstations
[08:55] <mak_> gaelfx, thnx is there a network of that kind or will i have to google
[08:55] <ganeshran> Flreblrd: I found a link. I am looking to see if its useful http://www.ubuntugeek.com/bandwidth-monitoring-tools-for-linux.html
[08:56] <phil_in_london> Evol1, have you checked lately?
[08:56] <mak_> flreblrd, well said bro
[08:56] <icarus-c> know is it possible to execute commands at authentication with GDM ?
[08:56] <icarus-c> i'm thinking wouldn't it be a good idea if you could configure GDM to take a picture with the webcam at failed login
[08:56] <Evo11> yes l have and still can't get it to give the workstations access
[08:56] <Kurdistan> guys under ubuntu maverick rc no bootable usb disk works
[08:56] <Flreblrd> ganeshran, http://www.monitortools.com/traffic/ <- that's your page to get good names of applications
[08:56] <phil_in_london> Evol1, so, you are assuming that everything has stayed the same with the rights, you do have all the r's and w's where they need to be?
[08:57] <Flreblrd> ganeshran, aaah well you got it yourself.. perfect
[08:57] <Kurdistan> can not creat ubuntu 10.04.1 usb or its stuck and nothing comes up
[08:57] <mak_> anyways thnx guyz am out of here
[08:57] <ganeshran> Flreblrd: Thanks. By the way will this slow my connection or anything? due to monitoring?
[08:57] <Evo11> yes that is correct
[08:58] <phil_in_london> Evol1, and no one has access to change the user/pass you've set for the samba share?
[08:58] <Evo11> no one else has access to it.
[08:58] <Evo11> if there is a problem then only l have access to the server
[08:59] <phil_in_london> Evol1, any chance the workstations have been updated? Perhaps had a firewall added, or turned on?
[09:00] <Evo11> the firewall has always been on.But l did put it off to see if l could get access to the server and that also failed
[09:00] <ganeshran> Hi bandwidthd is asking me for a subnet
[09:00] <ganeshran> what is that?
[09:01] <moetunes> 255.255.255.0
[09:01] <phil_in_london> Evol1, how are you managing the samba, editing the conf directly or swat?
[09:01] <Flreblrd> ganeshran, nah, it won't slow it down a bit. All it _might_ do is take a few % CPU usage
[09:01] <mostholy> hey guys i'm having a problem with nautilus?
[09:01] <hugo258> #croogo
[09:01] <mostholy> when i try to open my home folder or any "places" entry in the menu it tries to open with archive manager
[09:02] <mostholy> just started randomly doing this a few minutes ago
[09:02] <Evo11> accessing it from system then samba, I haven't edited the samba.conf as lm still noob at ubuntu and dont' wanna play around with something lm not sure about
[09:02] <mostholy> anybody have any ideas?
[09:03] <icarus-c> mostholy, i've had that before but i forgot how to fix that exactly.  wanna explore a bit with me ?
[09:03] <mostholy> icarus-c, sure thanks!
[09:03] <Flreblrd> mostholy, seems your default filebrowser has been set to the archive manager instead of Nautilus
[09:03] <mostholy> Firebird, how do i changed that?
[09:03] <juk> Hi, Im happy to anonce, upgraded to 10.10!
[09:04] <Flreblrd> mostholy, now that's a good question, did you try to reinstall nautilus ?
[09:04] <icarus-c> mostholy, run command  "gconftool-2 --get /desktop/gnome/applications/component_viewer/exec"
[09:04] <icarus-c> mostholy, what is the output
[09:04] <phil_in_london> Evol1, if this is happening to all your clients all of a sudden, then something changed at the server, without knowing the contents of the conf file it would be hard to determine what.
[09:04] <supercom32> When you mount a HD in ubuntu by clicking the link, I noted it generates some kind of long code for the mount path. is this code random, or is it always the same based on some property of the HD? Regardless of what build of ubuntu you use?
[09:04] <icarus-c> Flreblrd, reinstalling nautilus shouldn't help, it is about user config
[09:04] <Evo11> how do l go about sorting the conf file out?
[09:05] <mostholy> I reinstalled, but it didn't help. icarus-c, running command now
[09:05] <chris_> hey, how can i add a program to run at start up?
[09:05] <juk> by default screen rate was set to 65, and was flaming, then a reseted it to 75, nice done!
[09:05] <Evo11> maybe l can tinker around with it seeing that the server is down
[09:05] <icarus-c> chris_, System -> Preferences -> Start up application
[09:05] <Flreblrd> icarus-c, yes I know it's about the config.. but I never had that kind of problem.. I would stupidely enough go search in the config files in my home directory
[09:05] <mostholy> icarus-c the output is nautilus %s
[09:05] <phil_in_london> Evol1, go look for smb.conf
[09:05] <icarus-c> chris_, then drag and drop the app you want to run from application menu
[09:05] <phil_in_london> Evol1, and then perhaps find yourself a site that explains the contents for you.
[09:06] <icarus-c> mostholy, what about "gconftool-2 --get /desktop/gnome/session/required_components/filemanager"
[09:06] <chris_> icarus-c, i can't find Preferences in System
[09:06] <mostholy> icarus-c it says nautilus
[09:06] <chris_> i 'm using xubuntu
[09:06] <icarus-c> chris_, well,  i don't know xubuntu.  but put the .desktop file of the app to ~/.config/autostart   will do
[09:07] <chris_> icarus-c, i found that, thanks
[09:08] <mostholy> what now?
[09:08] <icarus-c> mostholy, hold on i'm digging :P
[09:08] <mostholy> k thx icarus
[09:10] <icarus-c> mostholy, could you run  "gconf-editor"  and search for (press ctrl-F )  "file-roller"  ?
[09:10] <icarus-c> mostholy, also tick search by name & value
[09:10] <mostholy> icarus-c "pattern not found"
[09:11] <icarus-c> mostholy, look for key where doesn't belong to "/apps/file-roller"
[09:11] <icarus-c> mostholy, press ctrl -F   enter "file-roller" (without quote)
[09:11] <mostholy> i did, icarus-c
[09:11] <mostholy> it said "pattern not found
[09:12] <icarus-c> mostholy, um...  try search roller instead
[09:12] <ionut> i have a partition of 490 gbytes, and i want to resize it. but is an ext4 and  the flag is boot. (the mount point is "/ " that i think is in the root). how can i resize it
[09:12] <mostholy> pattern not found
[09:13] <moetunes> ionut:  have you tried gparted to do that?
[09:13] <icarus-c> mostholy, ah i think i remember how
[09:13] <icarus-c> mostholy, create a folder on desktop
[09:14] <mostholy> done
[09:14] <icarus-c> mostholy, right click it -> open with -> nautilus
[09:14] <icarus-c> mostholy, or file browser from the menu
[09:15] <mostholy> nice i dont know why didnt think of that!
[09:15] <mostholy> thanks icarus-c!
[09:15] <icarus-c> mostholy, it works now ?
[09:15] <mostholy> haha guess i uninstalled gnomenu for no reason
[09:15] <mostholy> yep, works just fine!
[09:15] <mostholy> thanks!
[09:15] <icarus-c> mostholy, right, now here is the fun part
[09:15] <mostholy> k...
[09:15] <icarus-c> mostholy, now i added open with achieve manager for testing purpose
[09:15] <icarus-c> don't know how to remove it from the app list now :P
[09:15] <mostholy> hahah
[09:16] <mostholy> heh i'm not sure
[09:16] <mostholy> all this is pretty new to me
[09:16] <icarus-c> don't worry
[09:16] <moetunes> be happy
[09:17] <ionut> moetunes: yes, i tried with gparted. i can't
[09:19] <moetunes> ionut:  you might have data written at the end of the partition
[09:19] <AngryParsley> I upgraded to maverick on my netbook and now ubuntu shows a login screen (it used to auto-log in) and if I click on my username and type my password, the screen goes blank for a second and prints some text, then shows the login screen again
[09:19] <AngryParsley> the text goes by too quickly for me to read it
[09:19] <AngryParsley> but it looks like some sort of error
[09:20] <moetunes> AngryParsley:  sounds like a graphics issue - #ubuntu+1 for maverick tho
[09:20] <AngryParsley> d'oh
[09:20] <AngryParsley> thanks
[09:20] <ionut> moetunes: what means that ?
[09:20] <moetunes> :]
[09:20]  * AngryParsley moseys on over to the channel he should have asked the question in
[09:21] <moetunes> ionut:  it was a guess - if there is data at the end of the partition you can't resize it - is the partition full or close to being full?
[09:22] <ionut> moetunes: i have 460 gbytes free :D
[09:22] <Evo11> can't seem to get the server right so lm gonna ma just re-install the server. Is there software that l can make a disk image of the server once it is installed so that next time l just have to re-mount the image?
[09:23] <moetunes> ionut:  you can't resize a mounted partition I just remembered - you might need to try from a live cd
[09:23] <ionut> that's a great ideea. i forgot that tooooo. thans bro
[09:24] <moetunes> np :]
[09:25] <moetunes> Evo11:  try mindi and mondo apps
[09:25] <moetunes> !info mindi
[09:25] <moetunes> !info mondo
[09:25] <supercom32> When you mount a HD in ubuntu by clicking the link, I noted it generates some kind of long code for the mount path. is this code random, or is it always the same based on some property of the HD? Regardless of what build of ubuntu you use?
[09:25] <Evo11> k will try them thx
[09:26] <moetunes> supercom32:  prob something to do with the uuid
[09:26] <moetunes> !uuid
[09:28] <debuggerboy> Evo11: you can use dd command to take a backup of your HDD like below,  dd -bs=32M if=/dev/sda | bzip2 > /mnt/usb-hdd/sda_backup.bz2
[09:29] <moetunes> that's a nice command :]
[09:29] <moetunes> maybe sda1 tho
[09:29] <lozoot> hey can anyone help me? i just installed ubuntu and when i try to start it up i hear a sound but my screen stay black.
[09:31] <moetunes> lozoot:  that'll be something with the graphics that is causing an issue - do you know the graphics card?
[09:31] <lozoot> nvidia geforce 6150le
[09:31] <chaterzzzz> how can i solve that: Firefox no sabe cómo abrir esta dirección, porque el protocolo (ed2k) no está asociado con ningún program
[09:32] <chris_> hi, i installed xubuntu with the command "live xforcevesa"    but i got a black screen while i restart, how to fix it?
[09:32] <moetunes> chaterzzzz:  is that portuguese?
[09:32] <chaterzzzz> spanish
[09:32] <moetunes> !es
[09:32] <moetunes> I can't read it...
[09:32] <chaterzzzz> mm.. how to asociate the ed2k with ff and an aplication or program
[09:33] <chaterzzzz> ok.
[09:35] <juk> Hi, Im happy to anounce that upgraded to 10.10!
[09:36] <mtx_init> juk great, now you are forbidden from talking in this channel
[09:36] <dugger5688> But luckily the people in #ubuntu+1 are also there to help!
[09:37] <juk> mtx_init: haha yeah, thanks!
[09:40] <lozoot> hey can anyone help me? i just installed ubuntu and when i try to start it up i hear a sound but my screen stays black.  my video card is a nvidia geforce 6150le.
[09:41] <tensorpudding> lozoot: Does it run to a BIOS POST screen?
[09:42] <tensorpudding> lozoot: Are you sure that your monitor is working properly, and is hooked up to the computer correctly?
[09:43] <lozoot> yes im sure its hooked up properly and working im on my xp partition now.
[09:43] <juk> lozoot: have you installed nvidia drivers?
[09:43] <tensorpudding> lozoot: Okay, so when you choose Ubuntu at the GRUB boot menu, it doesn't work?
[09:44] <lozoot> @tensorpudding   yep.
[09:44] <tensorpudding> lozoot: Have you tried the recovery mode option?
[09:44] <lozoot> no i have not.   i'll do that now brb.
[09:45] <tensorpudding> Recovery mode should boot to a console.
[09:45] <tensorpudding> If it is a video problem, recovery mode should work fine.
[09:45] <lozoot> okay,
[09:45] <lozoot> brb.,
[09:45] <chris_> hi, i installed xubuntu with the command "live xforcevesa"    but i got a black screen while i restart, how to fix it?
[09:45] <duleep> hi
[09:46] <ugliefrog> anyone here a mythtv user?...i cant hear sound during live tv...the mythtv-users channel offer no help...
[09:49] <duleep> i encrypted directory now i want to decrypt that directory. anybody know how to do this?
[09:50] <AbhiJit> duleep, you cant
[09:50] <AbhiJit> duleep, backup your data delete encrypted partition and create new normal partition
[09:50] <duleep> hey i want to get my data
[09:51] <duleep> in that partition
[09:51] <duleep> can u tell to me how to get my data
[09:51] <AbhiJit> duleep, and you cant access that partition?
[09:51] <lozoot> okay  i tried recovery mode it flashed a bunch of text  then went to black.
[09:52] <duleep> i can only show 2 files
[09:53] <AbhiJit> duleep, you cannot access that encrypted partition?
[09:53] <duleep> readme .txt and Access-your-private data.destop
[09:53] <michele> italiano
[09:53] <nobarking> http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=wiretapping-quantum-encryption
[09:53] <bazhang> nobarking, ?
[09:53] <duleep> i can't open
[09:54] <michele> italiano
[09:54] <bazhang> nobarking, support question re: ubuntu for that?
[09:54] <moetunes> !it | michele
[09:56] <bazhang> nobarking, crossposting non support stuff not OK; #ubuntu-offtopic for that
[10:01] <duleep>  i encrypted directory now i want to decrypt that directory. anybody know how to do this?
[10:01] <UweBollsFunder> Hi
[10:02] <duleep>  i encrypted directory now i want to decrypt that directory. anybody know how to do this?
[10:02] <duleep> i have a problem
[10:02] <dwarder> i have a launcher on my desktop, how do i assign shortcut to it?
[10:02] <UweBollsFunder> can someone help me set up a private Samba share, ie one that people can only open if they are a valid user?  I created a user using adduser, gave him a samba password with smbpasswd, and created a conf file with "valid users = someuser" but anonymous can still access it
[10:02] <UweBollsFunder> (albeit in read only)
[10:03] <duleep> hello
[10:03] <duleep> anyone know how to decrypt partition?
[10:04] <lozoot> hey can anyone help me? i just installed ubuntu and when i try to start it up i hear a sound but my screen stays black. ..
[10:04] <chenyuwei> hi
[10:04] <dwarder> how do i launch program on certain shortcut
[10:04] <moetunes> lozoot:  that'll be something with the graphics that is causing an issue - do you know the graphics card? - like i asked earlier...
[10:05] <lozoot> i answered that before
[10:05] <chenyuwei> 你们好
[10:05] <lozoot> its a nvidia geforce 6150le
[10:05] <dwarder> !ch
[10:05] <moetunes> !who | lozoot sorry I missed it
[10:05] <dwarder> !china
[10:05] <chenyuwei> 怎么用软件阿
[10:06] <moetunes> lozoot:  using the default driver?
[10:06] <lozoot> i guess so.
[10:06] <moetunes> lozoot:  it never let you in after you installed?
[10:06] <lozoot> yep.
[10:07] <arael> Hi guys
[10:07] <juk> !nvidia | lozoot
[10:07] <arael> is there somebody here that uses octave?
[10:07] <chenyuwei> 有说中文的吗？
[10:07] <juk> !zh | chenyuwei
[10:07] <duleep>  i encrypted directory now i want to decrypt that directory. anybody know how to do this?
[10:07] <arael> any octave users here?
[10:08] <moetunes> lozoot:  at the boot prompt you can press F1 and get boot options - iirc safe graphics is one of the options - does that boot?
[10:08] <arael> any octave users here?
[10:08] <arael> does somebody here use octave?
[10:09] <dwarder> arael: what is it?
[10:09] <duleep> hello can u help to me
[10:09] <lozoot> i haven't tried that yet the ubuntu is installed on this computer so i'll have to restart now want me to do that?
[10:09] <AbhiJit> arael, you want to learn octave?
[10:09] <arael> hi dwarder
[10:09] <dwarder> duleep: !ask
[10:09] <arael> no just a technical question
[10:09] <duleep>  i encrypted directory now i want to decrypt that directory. anybody know how to do this?
[10:09] <dwarder> !ask | duleep
[10:09] <arael> on my machine 10.04
[10:09] <arael> in octave cli
[10:09] <moetunes> lozoot:  worth a try
[10:09] <lozoot> okay brb
[10:09] <arael> I cannot add spaces after commands
[10:09] <arael> is this a setting or a bug?
[10:09] <sacarlson> duleep: what did you use what software to encrypt your directory?  do you have the keys or passwords?
[10:09] <arael> I mean
[10:09] <duleep> :)
[10:10] <arael> I type function and try to add a space but the space is not added
[10:10] <arael> it seems that the space bar is disabled
[10:10] <duleep> thnx ur advice i'm new to use irc
[10:10] <moetunes> duleep:  afaik you can't undo an encryption like AbhiJit said earlier
[10:10] <arael> sometimes tab works but the space bar does not
[10:10] <arael> could you please check on your machine?
[10:10] <duleep> don't use any sf
[10:11] <AbhiJit> duleep, http://www.theirishpenguin.com/2010/09/26/accessing-your-encrypted-home-directory-in-ubuntu/
[10:11] <moetunes> AbhiJit:  :]
[10:11] <duleep> when ubuntu install that asked do u want to encrypt this partition?
[10:12] <duleep> i gave that yes
[10:12] <arael> are there any user that has octave installed? I need to check something
[10:12] <duleep> and after i reinstall ubuntu
[10:12] <sacarlson> duleep: just login to the account that was encrypted and it should auto decrypt
[10:12] <arael> are there any octave user here?
[10:12] <duleep> now i can't access that partition
[10:13] <arael> dear god, nobody here is using octave?
[10:13] <tensorpudding> !ask | arael
[10:13] <arael> I just asked
[10:13] <duleep> i don't have that account b'caz i format and reinstall ubuntu
[10:13] <AbhiJit> duleep, do you read the link i gave you?
[10:14] <arael> does the space bar in your octave client work or not?
[10:14] <tensorpudding> yes
[10:14] <tensorpudding> if by octave client you mean the interpreter
[10:14] <arael> what version are you using
[10:14] <arael> yes
[10:14] <sacarlson> duleep: you must not have they key or the passwords?
[10:14] <arael> I mean the interprter
[10:14] <arael> I mean the interpreter
[10:14] <duleep> not yet i'll now...
[10:14] <tensorpudding> the one that's in lucid
[10:14] <arael> yes
[10:15] <arael> I tried octave3.0 and octave3.4
[10:15] <sacarlson> duleep: without those you can forget they ever existed
[10:15] <lozoot> okay when my computer starts up  and i get to the boot menu i see ubuntu  ubuntu(recovery mode  2 memory test things and xp    neither of the ubuntu options work
[10:15] <arael> and octave in interactive mode has this strange problem
[10:15] <duleep> ya
[10:15] <tensorpudding> arael: it sounds like it could be a problem with your keyboard?
[10:15] <arael> the space does not work
[10:16] <arael> but I'm typing here
[10:16] <duleep> if i have how can do this
[10:16] <arael> and as you can see my space bar works well
[10:16] <tensorpudding> arael: you're running it inside the terminal right?
[10:16] <arael> yes
[10:16] <arael> gnome-terminal
[10:16] <tensorpudding> that's pretty odd then
[10:16] <haarp> hello. im rnning another distro at the moment and need access to my encrypted home of the ubuntu install. the kernel supports ecryptfs, what are the mount options i need to access the home?
[10:16] <arael> yea
[10:16] <lozoot> moetunes:  okay when my computer starts up  and i get to the boot menu i see ubuntu  ubuntu(recovery mode  2 memory test things and xp
 thanx ur link
[10:16] <arael> I tried octave on OSX and no problems
[10:17] <arael> same thing in xterm
[10:17] <arael> what version of octave are you using?
[10:17] <tensorpudding> arael: i suppose it could be a bug in octave
[10:17] <moetunes> lozoot:  sorry I was thinking of the live cd - I led you astray there
[10:17] <lozoot> okay, lmao.
[10:17] <arael> hm...could be
[10:17] <moetunes> I am too
[10:18] <tensorpudding> arael: 3.2 here
[10:18] <arael> ok
[10:18] <Zeating> Hi
[10:18] <st__> can I symlink stuff in /dev/folder?
[10:18] <moetunes> lozoot:  choose the recovery option - you can read the X log from there
[10:18] <arael> well thank you
[10:19] <arael> bye
[10:19] <lozoot> i tried that.
[10:19] <tensorpudding> arael: there might be a bug filed for it
[10:19] <lozoot> it flashed up some text
[10:19] <lozoot> then went black
[10:19] <Zeating> I'm pretty new and can someone tell me exactly what this is.. "4. Enter the APT line below that corresponds to your Ubuntu version that starts with "deb" lol
[10:19] <chromey> test
[10:19] <arael> I searched for bug reports
[10:19] <arael> but seems that I'm the only one having this problem
[10:19] <tensorpudding> arael: on launchpad and on octave's bugtracker?
[10:20] <st__> Zeating, "deb REPOURL DISTRO BRANCH1 [BRANCH2...]"
[10:20] <moetunes> lozoot:  that is what it does - then it gives a prompt like in the terminal - the you do   cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | less
[10:20] <Zeating> so what would i type in if i asks me
[10:20] <moetunes> and look for errors
[10:20] <Zeating> if i'm using ubuntu 10.04 64bit
[10:21] <moetunes> Zeating:  what are you trying to do where it asks you that?
[10:21] <arael> yea
[10:21] <arael> no space bar problems reported so far
[10:21] <lozoot> it didn't show me anything after the text at first then the light on my moniter went yellow like it does when my computer is off.
[10:21] <Zeating> trying to get the latest version of banshee and it wants me to add a ppa or something to software sources
[10:22] <Zeating> https://launchpad.net/~banshee-team/+archive/ppa
[10:22] <arael> well...I'll just stick to octave on osx...there's not much to do...thank you all
[10:22] <arael> bye
[10:22] <st__> Zeating, type deb, URL, lucid, main separating them with spaces
[10:23] <moetunes> lozoot:  seems there is a major issue with that graphics card - I don't use nvidia so don't know what else to suggest - if the tty won't work...
[10:23] <Zeating> think that worked st
[10:24] <Zeating> thankyou
[10:25] <juk> lozoot: I have just upgraded to maverick ans did same steps !nvidia looks even nicer then in 10.04
[10:26] <moetunes> juk:  lozoot can't boot into the os...
[10:27] <juk> moetunes: live cd?
[10:27] <moetunes> juk:  fresh install
[10:27] <Baughn> Is there any way I can install the -dev packages for *all* installed libraries, instead of having to manually name the ones I need? (Which inevitably means recompiling..)
[10:27] <juk> moetunes: yeah why not?
[10:27] <moetunes> juk:  he just gets a blank screen
[10:27] <familyoutlaw> Can anyone help with JavaFIBS backgammon client on Lucid Lynx?
[10:28] <moetunes> juk:  moetunes> lozoot:  seems there is a major issue with that graphics card - I don't use nvidia so don't know what else to suggest - if the tty won't work...
[10:28] <familyoutlaw> I installed it and can't get see the pips on the dice.
[10:28] <lozoot> moetunes: i've had ubuntu installed on this computer before a while ago  its was an older version of ubuntu. it worked fune  maybe i should try installing an older version then updating?
[10:28] <lozoot> fine*
[10:28] <juk> moetunes: I guess major issue with hardware rightly
[10:29] <moetunes> lozoot:  it might be a kernel issue or something with the X driver I don't know - upgrading from an older distro will just get you to where you are now...
[10:30] <avih> Hi, testing, can someone pls confirm s/he can read this?
[10:30] <alexis_> hi everyone, i've got a problem with my new ubuntu 10.10, i upgraded yesterday from 10.04 and now I don't have sound-applet running anymore, can anyone help me plz ?
[10:31] <moetunes> lozoot:  in    www.google.com/linux   search for your card number and ubuntu
[10:31] <mindhalt> avih: i can read that
[10:31] <dragonscreamer> 0
[10:31] <avih> mindhalt: thx m8.
[10:31] <mindhalt> avih: np
[10:33] <dwarder> what do you use for web development
[10:33] <Edward_Elric> netbeans
[10:33] <lozoot> moetunes: i searched  "nvidia 6150 le ubuntu"  what sould i be looking for?
[10:33] <lozoot> should*
[10:33] <Edward_Elric> servlets jsps
[10:34] <alexis_> anyone could help me plz ?
[10:34] <moetunes> lozoot:  a link that mentions solved or anything similar
[10:35] <moetunes> alexis_:  you need to ask in #ubuntu+1
[10:36] <alexis_> moetunes: ok thank you
[10:36] <moetunes> np :]
[10:36] <ernie> Hello all.  I'm trying to import mbox folders into evolution mail.  the problem is that they are being imported as a single email.  for instance.  folder xxx has 10 emails in it.  I import it and everything looks fine but when I go to the folder there is only one email in it and it is marked with a question mark.  any help here?
[10:36] <moetunes> 9 days 'till this is the maverick channel
[10:37] <werew433> hellow guyz I'l want to make driver for my ati card on 10.4 where can I find developers?
[10:37] <juk> !ati | werew433
[10:38] <mawst> #ubuntu-dev maybe?
[10:38] <mawst> *shrug*
[10:38] <werew433> thanks
[10:38] <mawst> np
[10:38] <lozoot> moetunes: i dont see anything that says solved   try lookin thru the search yourself and see if anything there might help you help me
[10:38] <tensorpudding> this channel will still support old versions of ubuntu for a while yet though
[10:40] <valadares> i'm cannot use internet 3g in Ubuntu (i already try Vodafone
[10:41] <lozoot> brb
[10:42] <Friar> Is there a way to make my evolution mail open on workspace 2 every time I open it regardless of which workspace I'm on when I open it?
[10:45] <lozoot> back
[10:46] <phoenix_> there is a software which works in 9.10. when i install it in 10.04 . it says it needs old kernel. can it be some how run in a new kernel
[10:46] <lozoot> Moetunes: you there?
[10:47] <moetunes> lozoot:  yep - I'm too busy to do your searches for you and read lots of web pages tho
[10:47] <moetunes> Friar:  the only window manager I've found that can do that is fluxbox
[10:48] <navetz> can somone please tell me how to use dpkg to resetup my xorg? I tried to install propritary drivers for my ati card and everything broke. I stopped using them but it is still very sluggish
[10:48] <razz1> I Installed XP guest using virtualbox with all the updates and the programs I need for work. I would like the present state to be frozen so that I can go back to it if some thing goes wrong in future. This way I will not have to start from scratch. What method should I use snapshots or clonehd?
[10:48] <lozoot> moetunes: okay, do you think that updating to the 10.10 rc would work?
[10:49] <tensorpudding> phoenix_: what software is that
[10:49] <moetunes> lozoot:  I couldn't say - I don't know where the issue is and where it needs to be fixed
[10:49] <phoenix_> bluetooth software. bluesoleil
[10:50] <tensorpudding> phoenix_: you built this by hand?
[10:50] <icarus-c> st__, you could make symlink to /dev  .   like  ln  -s /dev/stdout  ~/stdout
[10:50] <lozoot> moetunes: well, i cant think of another option so im gonna try.
[10:50] <phoenix_> tensorpudding: downloaded from the hardware's webpage
[10:50] <icarus-c> razz1, snapshot
[10:50] <mxe5> Is there another hard drive app besides Disk Usage Analyzer that would be a good one to use ? ?
[10:50] <tensorpudding> phoenix_: it's almost surely tied to the kernel you compiled the driver with
[10:50] <moetunes> lozoot:  good luck :]
[10:51] <lozoot> moetunes: thank you.
[10:51] <icarus-c> mxe5, what sort of tool you want
[10:51] <mxe5> Running 10.4
[10:51] <tensorpudding> phoenix_: you probably have to build it again against the new kernel's sources, and do that every time you upgrade the kernel
[10:51] <phoenix_> tensorpudding: i just downloaded the deb
[10:51] <phoenix_> tensorpudding: i know that but i dont have the source
[10:51] <phoenix_> tensorpudding: i have only the compiled deb
[10:52] <tensorpudding> phoenix_: you need to get the deb that matches your kernel version, then
[10:52] <mxe5> icarus-c: Something that would be a nice GUI that would give me a more detailed output.
[10:52] <phoenix_> tensorpudding: they stoped support for linux
[10:52] <icarus-c> mxe5, what sort of information?  like  usage analysis ?
[10:52] <phoenix_> tensorpudding: only available for 9.10
[10:52] <mxe5> icarus-c: Yup
[10:53] <icarus-c> mxe5, SMART data? disk properties?...etc
[10:53] <mxe5> icarus-c: Any of those would be ok.
[10:53] <tensorpudding> phoenix_: they stopped development?
[10:54] <phoenix_> tensorpudding: ya for linux
[10:54] <mxe5> icarus-c: Disk properties, how much soace is left, what files are taking more room, etc. etc.
[10:54] <icarus-c> mxe5, gnome disk usage analysis is pretty decent already.  and for disk properties you could try palimpsest
[10:55] <mxe5> icarus-c: Opps I meant "space"
[10:55] <tensorpudding> phoenix_: you should probably find some kind of replacement for it then
[10:56] <icarus-c> mxe5, doesn't gnome disk usage analysis do the task?
[10:56] <phoenix_> the default bluetooth app is not able to pair
[10:56] <mxe5> icarus-c: How about something that would give you report of the health or a type of disk chk?
[10:56] <xukun> how can start my ubuntu os in safe mode. If I hit esc during the reboot it just starts normal mode? thanks
[10:56] <icarus-c> mxe5, that's about SMART data.  palimpsest does that
[10:56] <icarus-c> mxe5, gsmartcontrol also
[10:57] <tensorpudding> phoenix_: if they don't support ubuntu anymore, you'll not be able to upgrade ubuntu any further
[10:57] <mxe5> icarus-c: Cool - Thanks much Will take a look see....
[10:57] <tensorpudding> phoenix_: and keep using it
[10:57] <icarus-c> mxe5, oops palimpsest doesn't do smart :P
[10:57] <xukun> anybody please. I'm desperate
[10:57] <moetunes> !info smartmontools
[10:57] <mxe5> icarus-c: ok
[10:58] <icarus-c> mxe5, and for disk partitioning/file system, you could use gparted
[10:58] <tensorpudding> xukun: choose the recovery mode in the grub menu
[10:58] <tensorpudding> xukun: hit escape after the bios screen but before the ubuntu screen pops up
[10:58] <xukun> tensorpudding, that is the problem. I can't see the the grub menu
[10:59] <xukun> tensorpudding, Ok did that but I will try again
[10:59] <mxe5> icarus-c: Yea actually had forgotten how great that app is - looked at it 8/9 months ago and had forgotten about it.
[10:59] <TiK> tensorpudding: no you hold down shift for grub2
[10:59] <TiK> escape is grub1
[11:00] <tensorpudding> dammit, i keep forgetting that
[11:00] <tensorpudding> the wiki article on recovery mode needs to be updated
[11:00] <tensorpudding> well, it mentions the fact that you need to hold shift, but in a footnote
[11:01] <tensorpudding> if i wasn't lazy i'd register and edit the article
[11:03] <xukun> tensorpudding, thanks a lot that dit the job. I was pushing the esc way too early
[11:04] <dwarder> is it possible to cut files in mc?
[11:04] <dwarder> and paste them
[11:04] <st__> dwarder, i doubt it
[11:04] <mxe5> icarus-c: Just did a "hard drive" search in "Ubuntu Software Center" and found "GSmartControl" that looks promising.
[11:06] <mxe5> icarus-c: Also "Graphical Disk Map" Thanks for input.
[11:06] <dwarder> what shortcuts do you use to move between virtual desktops?
[11:06] <Friar> moetunes, does fluxbox replace nautilus? or just run with it?
[11:07] <oCean> dwarder: ctrl-alt-arrow
[11:07] <moetunes> Friar:  you can replace metacity - gnomes window manager - with fluxbox - nautilus is the file manager
[11:07] <moetunes> !info fluxbox
[11:08] <moetunes> !info metacity
[11:08] <dwarder> oCean: do you switch only with them? do you use numbers?
[11:08] <Friar> moetunes, thanks...I'll give it a shot...I see it in the repos. Plus I'm using the release candidate for 10.10 and just installed yesterday....no risk if it really messes things up.
[11:08] <dwarder> oCean: like winkey+1
[11:08] <dwarder> to move to desktop one
[11:09] <moetunes> Friar:  good luck :)
[11:10] <nurv> whats a good port to use for qbittorent?
[11:10] <tensorpudding> dwarder: you probably can configure those
[11:11] <droopal>  ok, back again, this is some of the thing I get it starts with an orange * pound will not start unconfigured * please configure: afterwards, set startup = 1 in /etc/default/pound/
[11:11] <Palanglung> hello
[11:11] <dwarder> tensorpudding: yes you do, but i would like to know what key other users use
[11:11] <droopal> plus on my keyboards, and I just bought two new ones, the numbers on the right hand side of the keyboard dont work, on old or new keyboards, number lock is on, but they dont work.
[11:12] <droopal> can anybody help with those two questions please?
[11:12] <Palanglung> hello all
[11:13] <leeb9972> gmorning from Scotland
[11:13] <^mNotIntelligent> hi all !
[11:14] <egoleo> hello
[11:14] <egoleo> anyone knows a cafe timer for ubuntu
[11:14] <egoleo> with clients as windows
[11:14] <TiK> huh
[11:14] <TiK> cafe timer?
[11:15] <st__> egoleo, which will log them off after their billing time?
[11:15] <egoleo> yes
[11:15] <egoleo> yes all that a cafe timer can have
[11:15] <Palanglung> whic ubuntu support cdma modem
[11:15] <mindhalt> internet cafe?
[11:15] <egoleo> yes internet cafe
[11:16] <tensorpudding> droopal: can you state that first problem in a way that's not completely confusing?
[11:16] <AbhiJit> egoleo, what is cafe timer?
[11:16] <egoleo> it will be able to logdown users
[11:16] <^mNotIntelligent> Palanglung, i gues its already there.... nothing specific to any flavor...
[11:16] <tensorpudding> droopal: as for the second, have you looked at Ubuntu's keyboard settings?
[11:16] <egoleo> i mean internet cafe management software, includes billing and user management
[11:16] <droopal> not sure what you mean
[11:17] <droopal> about the first one,
[11:17] <st__> AbhiJit, software which enables and disables workstations/internet connection by timer
[11:17] <tensorpudding> droopal: The keyboard might be listed under Keyboard Preferences -> Layouts -> Keyboard Model
[11:17] <d3v0> hello im having problems mounting my western digital portable hard drive, nothing seems to happen when i connect it
[11:17] <d3v0> other hard drives/ usb's work
[11:17] <sacarlson> egoleo: I wrote a simple one in php that uses ecommerce as the store to buy service
[11:17] <egoleo> anyone got cafe timer
[11:17] <AbhiJit> st__, hmm
[11:17] <egoleo> so u selling it?
[11:17] <st__> d3v0, is it listed in USB tree
[11:18] <egoleo> i want free version plse
[11:18] <tensorpudding> droopal: trying to read what you wrote is impossible, the english is incoherent
[11:18] <mawst> You could probably chron something remotely egoleo
[11:18] <mawst> Write a script or something
[11:18] <st__> egoleo, such things are usually custom-made
[11:18] <droopal> with the pound thing, Installed 10.10 last night, on 10.04 I couldnt uise the function Ctrl+Alt+F1 or above
[11:18] <sacarlson> egoleo:  it is distributed as a franchise
[11:18] <d3v0> st__ where is usb tree
[11:18] <AbhiJit> egoleo, may i havea detailed requirement? you can pastebinit it. i am a student and i want to know the requirement i wll create this project some time
[11:18] <egoleo> st__ but can i get just a free cafe timer that just works
[11:18] <st__> d3v0, lsusb or something...
[11:18] <droopal> in the install, I notivced it said couldnt install pound
[11:19] <st__> egoleo, try to google it, because it's rare kind of program
[11:19] <sacarlson> egoleo: there are many
[11:19] <tensorpudding> droopal: what is pound?
[11:19] <droopal> now, this morning, found out I could use Ctrl etc and got to F7 and in there it talked about pound
[11:19] <egoleo> so can u give me some plse
[11:20] <sacarlson> egoleo: I couldn't get the free ones I found to work so I wrote one
[11:20] <droopal> that is what I am trying to find out, what I posted is the message on Ctrl+Alt+F7
[11:20] <st__> !about pound
[11:20] <st__> !package pound
[11:20] <droopal> I dont know what pound is either, which is why I am asking,
[11:20] <tensorpudding> it sounds like pound needs configuration
[11:20] <cool-aide> hello
[11:20] <tensorpudding> it's some kind of HTTP reverse proxy server
[11:20] <d3v0> st__ no it doesnt
[11:21] <homecable> check this video out of my freind at work http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlRL7axE1To :P
[11:21] <tensorpudding> not sure why it would be installed on your machine
[11:21] <st__> droopal, try sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow pound
[11:21] <d3v0> st__ it comes up as Initio Corporation
[11:21] <cool-aide> i need help...i have ubuntu 10.04...i want to reformat and install new fresh ubuntu 10.04 how can i do it without losing my files?
[11:21] <homecable> its so funny
[11:21] <droopal> orange * pound will not start unconfigured * please configure: afterwards, set startup = 1 in /etc/default/pound/
[11:21] <droopal> that is the message again
[11:21] <Leroy> homecable: w0t?
[11:21] <droopal> ok, will give it a try now, one sec
[11:21] <tensorpudding> droopal: if you don't know what it is, you probably installed it through some other package
[11:22] <st__> cool-aide, remove all directories in /, except boot, root and home
[11:22] <icarus-c> egoleo, i only know that command "skill -KILL -u USERNAME  " could force a user to logout
[11:22] <oCean> homecable: do not paste that in here
[11:22] <icarus-c> egoleo, and you may set when to run that command with a "at" job
[11:22] <droopal>  * pound will not start unconfigured.
[11:22] <droopal>  * Please configure; afterwards, set startup=1 in /etc/default/pound.
[11:22] <droopal>  * pound will not start unconfigured.
[11:22] <droopal>  * Please configure; afterwards, set startup=1 in /etc/default/pound.
[11:22] <FloodBot4> droopal: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:22] <droopal> that is what I get when I enter that command
[11:22] <egoleo> well is not abt loging them out
[11:22] <cool-aide> st__: actually i'm running it in a dual boot...i got win7 as my other os...is it safe? without losing my files from win7 os?
[11:23] <st__> cool-aide, definitely
[11:23] <malef> !list
[11:23] <icarus-c> egoleo, isn't a "cafe timer" meant to logoff the user after their time allowance?
[11:23] <st__> cool-aide, of course if you will be careful about disk partitioning
[11:23] <tensorpudding> droopal: do you know why you'd have pound installed? do you run an HTTP server on the machine?
[11:23] <egoleo> yes its suppose to
[11:23] <st__> cool-aide, some distros offer idiotic option to 'use all disk'
[11:23] <egoleo> but is got more stuffs too
[11:24] <icarus-c> egoleo, such as?...
[11:24] <droopal> not that I know of, it just came up
[11:24] <egoleo> user management and billing
[11:24] <tensorpudding> droopal: try removing it
[11:24] <droopal> how do I remove it?
[11:24] <tensorpudding> droopal: use 'sudo aptitude remove pound'
[11:24] <droopal> ok, one sec
[11:24] <icarus-c> egoleo, you may also halt a user and continue
[11:25] <egoleo> ok
[11:25] <icarus-c> egoleo, say halt  (like freeze) a user session when their time's up,  and they could pay and you continue their session?
[11:25] <icarus-c> egoleo, "man skill" for detail
[11:25] <egoleo> ok
[11:25] <egoleo> but the client machines are windows
[11:25] <icarus-c> egoleo, and you could schedule task with  at
[11:26] <droopal> did that, looked in Ctrl+Alt+F7 and the message is still there, must have to reboot, will try that in a minute
[11:26] <icarus-c> egoleo, that's way beyond what i know :P
[11:26] <st__> egoleo, cybera, direqcafe, kfemate etc
[11:26] <egoleo> thnx st__ checking them out
[11:26] <mawst> egoleo, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cafebuntu
[11:27] <egoleo> mawst is not ready yet
[11:27] <mawst> Seems there are some projects towards the bottom that do what you want.
[11:27] <pankaj_sharma> st__  u r online 24*7 ?
[11:27] <d3v0> i have a problem with my western digital external hard drive. sometimes it shows up in lsusb but then goes away
[11:28] <egoleo> yeah sure
[11:28] <st__> pankaj_sharma, no of course
[11:28] <pankaj_sharma> just kidding
[11:29] <droopal> about the keyboard thing. Keyboard Preferences -> Layouts -> Keyboard Model cant find any of the models I have, but they did work on 10.04 before an update a while back.
[11:29] <moetunes> d3v0:  try a diff usb port maybe
[11:30] <d3v0> is it possible my power supply isnt strong enough?
[11:30] <st__> droopal, try Evdev keyboard
[11:30] <Marco972> salut
[11:31] <egoleo> st__ thanks alot
[11:31] <Marco972> hello all
[11:31] <pankaj_sharma> hi
[11:31] <moetunes> d3v0:  it is  amatter of eliminating possibilities - the usb port is the easiest to test - try a diff one
[11:32] <d3v0> ive tried
[11:32] <droopal> st_: just tried that it didnt work
[11:32] <d3v0> 2/5 work
[11:32] <d3v0> the other ports dont read at all
[11:32] <d3v0> the two ports that do work boot up
[11:32] <d3v0> then i hear a click
[11:32] <d3v0> and it disappears from lsusb
[11:32] <juk> after dpkg-reconfigure finished got: dpkg-maintscript-helper: error: couldn't identify the package' is it bad?
[11:32] <moetunes> d3v0:  seems it might be the comps h/ware at fault - does it work ok in another comp?
[11:33] <d3v0> yeh it works fine in other pcs
[11:33] <d3v0> the same port on my computer works with 1gb usb sticks
[11:33] <moetunes> d3v0:  that should tell you everything
[11:33] <moetunes> o
[11:33] <inktri> how can i install the package libpoppler-glib4 on 10.10 beta? i need it for the latex editor called gummi
[11:34] <droopal> brb going to reboot
[11:34] <pankaj_sharma> where i can find the source code of vim? plz tell me
[11:34] <Marco972> exit
[11:35] <st__> pankaj_sharma, apt-get source vim
[11:35] <tensorpudding> inktri: libpoppler is probably available in the repos
[11:35] <pankaj_sharma> ty st__
[11:35] <st__> tensorpudding, it's binding library
[11:36] <tensorpudding> inktri: do you need 4? libpoppler-glib5 is in the repos
[11:36] <inktri> tensorpudding: i need 4 because gummi currently depends on 4, not 5
[11:36] <st__> inktri, try to edit configure
[11:37] <st__> inktri, are you compiling it yourself?
[11:37] <inktri> st__: no i was just using apt-get install
[11:37] <st__> inktri, then submit a bug about this package
[11:38] <oCean> inktri: for 10.10 issues, visit #ubuntu+1
[11:39] <st__> don't send people to oscure #distro chanenls which have 2d6 resident trolls, 1d10 lurkers and 1d4 knowlegeable people who are AFK
[11:40] <st__> *obscure
[11:41] <oCean> st__: if you are talking about #ubuntu+1, that's channel policy not to support beta's here
[11:41] <kwork> lol
[11:41] <pankaj_sharma> lol
[11:42] <moetunes> !lol
[11:42]  * kwork is laughing out loud
[11:42] <st__> then on 10 october something changes and magically it will be right channel to discuss it. it reeks of bureacracy
[11:42] <kwork> moetunes better?
[11:42] <bilalakhtar> st__: After 10/10/10 #ubuntu+1 will redirect to this channel
[11:42] <moetunes> kwork:  what's better?
[11:43] <kwork> moetunes you forgot what you just said?=
[11:43] <kwork> moetunes had the bot say even
[11:43] <ikonia> bilalakhtar: where did you get the release date 10th October
[11:43] <greppy> st__: it reeks of supporting things in the right places.  beta vs release issues and procedures can be very different.
[11:43] <bilalakhtar> ikonia: Hi matt, its here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MaverickReleaseSchedule
[11:43] <tensorpudding> there's something awesome about releasing something on 10-10-10, you know
[11:44] <AbhiJit> 8 days remaining
[11:44] <ikonia> bilalakhtar: thanks
[11:44] <pankaj_sharma> bilalakhtar: hindi jante ho bhai?
[11:44] <AbhiJit> !in | pankaj_sharma
[11:44] <moetunes> kwork:  you did lol then asked if it's better? - what's better or is english not your native tongue?
[11:44] <bilalakhtar> pankaj_sharma: haan, par hindi support ke liye #ubuntu-in behtar hai
[11:45] <pankaj_sharma> bilalakhtar: wah koi nahi hain support ke liye
[11:45] <juk> !ot
[11:45] <bilalakhtar> pankaj_sharma: Then ask in english here
[11:45] <pankaj_sharma> ok billu
[11:45] <AbhiJit> !en | pankaj_sharma
[11:46] <st__> tensorpudding, it reeks of Soviets btw
[11:46] <kwork> moetunes i asked you if using laughing out loud in emotion is better then typin out lol, and yes english isnt my native language
[11:46] <AbhiJit> :o
[11:46] <oCean> moetunes: kwork please drop it and move on
[11:46] <tensorpudding> that guy's been obnoxious for a while
[11:47] <moetunes> kwork:  you seem dumb - I'll just put you on ignore
[11:47] <linzhavon> hi, all.
[11:47] <kwork> moetunes thanks :)
[11:47] <juk> moetunes: how you doing that, it's googd know
[11:47] <linzhavon> anyone use GTK programming?
[11:47] <ikonia> moetunes: please don't start with name calling
[11:47] <TiK> everyoneis dumb
[11:47] <AbhiJit> linzhavon, #gtk+
[11:47] <kwork> he just needed to say smt to boost hes ego
[11:47] <ikonia> linzhavon: a little, plus there isa  gtk channel
[11:48] <ikonia> TiK: please stop
[11:48] <moetunes> ikonia:  apologies but he set a precedent
[11:48] <ikonia> moetunes: then dont rise to it
[11:48] <moetunes> k
[11:48] <TiK> stop what?
[11:48] <TiK> i dont follow
[11:48] <ikonia> kwork: who are you talking about ?
[11:49] <linzhavon> abhiJit, thank u.
[11:49] <pankaj_sharma> is vi and vim same?
[11:49] <greppy> pankaj_sharma: for most people, yes.
[11:49] <ikonia> pankaj_sharma: it's a symlink to vim
[11:49] <tensorpudding> pankaj_sharma: no
[11:49] <AbhiJit> pankaj_sharma, no
[11:49] <AbhiJit> pankaj_sharma, vim is improved vi
[11:49] <pankaj_sharma> ok
[11:49] <TiK> no way pico ftw
[11:50] <ikonia> TiK: he's not asking for an opinion, he's asking if its the same application
[11:50] <TiK> ikonia: i have no idea I was just saying everoyne is dumb we jsut use the OS its not like we created it
[11:51] <tensorpudding> many systems, ubuntu included, don't have a real vi, just a symlink to vim
[11:51] <pankaj_sharma> so why there is differnet package for vim?
[11:51] <tensorpudding> vim is a superset of vi's features
[11:51] <tensorpudding> well, i lied a little, it's a symlink to vim.tiny
[11:51] <mm1484> !list
[11:51] <greppy> pankaj_sharma: the default install I think is for a stripped down version of vim.
[11:52] <greppy> pankaj_sharma: if you actually want what is the closest to the original vi, apt-get install nvi
[11:52] <tensorpudding> vim.tiny is like real vim, but with some of the larger features cut out
[11:52] <Dulak> they install the stripped down version so they save space on the livecd
[11:52] <juk> vim vs nano
[11:52] <tensorpudding> the real vim package is the official one that is provided from upstream
[11:52] <tensorpudding> so roughly, in terms of features, vi < vim.tiny < vim
[11:53] <pankaj_sharma> hmm
[11:53] <greppy> Dulak: I think it has more to do with the features that people want/need than space, I could be wrong, but...
[11:53] <Dulak> it's very easy to install the full version, it will automatiecally be symlinked to vi and vim for you
[11:53] <tensorpudding> nvi fits in there somewhere too
[11:54] <alfredo> fro italian chatt?
[11:54] <tensorpudding> !it | alfredo
[11:54] <Dulak> No it's mainly about the space, because I don't know many people that use vi that don't want say syntax highlighting, which iirc is left out of vim.tiny
[11:54] <alfredo> thanks
[11:55] <geraudk2000> Hi
[11:55] <jg47hm> hi
[11:55] <pisi_> is it possible to force do-release-upgrade -d only download the updates for a later installation ?
[11:55] <pankaj_sharma> can u guys tell me.. where to find the code in vim (where it searches the string in a particular file). i just want the code. i have the source,but i dont know from where to start?
[11:56] <geraudk2000> please I have a probleme to read video on html5
[11:56] <pisi_> I'm on a slow link but I'd like to be present when the actual update would do its stuff
[11:56] <jg47hm> you know how to change my keyboard input language
[11:56] <geraudk2000> with chromium-browser
[11:56] <oCean> pankaj_sharma: better ask in #vim
[11:56] <tensorpudding> pankaj_sharma: the layout of source code might be very complicated...there's no easy way for someone unfamiliar with the source to say
[11:57] <geraudk2000> I use this website for test http://www.html5test.com/
[11:57] <nirvanowiec> hi
[11:57] <pankaj_sharma> oCean: everyone sleeping there
[11:57] <tensorpudding> geraudk2000: what is this problem
[11:57] <oCean> pankaj_sharma: that does not make it an ubuntu issue, sorry
[11:57] <nirvanowiec> my website www.hddrecovery.pl
[11:58] <oCean> nirvanowiec: why are you pasting that here?
[11:58] <tensorpudding> nirvanowiec: this is not a bulletin board for posting advertisements
[11:58] <geraudk2000> i want to see on my screen one video with htlm5
[11:58] <geraudk2000> tensorpudding: i want to see on my screen one video with htlm5
[11:59] <tensorpudding> geraudk2000: and you don't see the video?
[11:59] <Firebird> er irc.rendez-vous.be
[12:00] <tensorpudding> geraudk2000: it's possible that chromium doesn't support the codec they use
[12:00] <geraudk2000> tensorpudding: no, I'don't ..on dailymotion/html5 or another website
[12:00] <juk> geraudk2000:chromium wont play video, plugins
[12:00] <tensorpudding> geraudk2000: i think it supports webm, do videos on youtube work?
[12:01] <grigoriades> how t o change my keyboard input language???
[12:01] <geraudk2000> juk: ok
[12:01] <juk> grigoriades: system > preferences > keyboard > layout
[12:01] <AndroUser> on windows i had a promblem playing video which were solved by installing the firefox plugins for that video type
[12:01] <Dulak> grigoriades: System->Preferences->Keyboard
[12:02] <pankaj_sharma> check keyboard layout
[12:02] <AndroUser>  maybe it will work on ubuntu too
[12:02] <moetunes> AndroUser:  there is a mplayer plugin for that in synaptic
[12:03] <geraudk2000> what browser support html5 on ubuntu, may be firefox 3.6.10 ??
[12:03] <tensorpudding> geraudk2000: chromium supports html5
[12:04] <fcn> Chrome and as far as i know opera supports
[12:04] <tensorpudding> geraudk2000: opera and firefox do as well to varying degrees
[12:04] <Dulak> the official chrome does too
[12:05] <geraudk2000> tensorpudding: how can I do to run it under chromium?
[12:05] <tensorpudding> geraudk2000: what version do you have?
[12:06] <geraudk2000> the last 6.0.472.63 (59945) Ubuntu 10.04
[12:06] <juk> chromium causes to many crashes i don't use it anymore
[12:06] <juk> firefox is great!
[12:06] <tensorpudding> actually, now that i think of it, the version in 10.04 might predate WebM support
[12:07] <tensorpudding> though it should support H264.
[12:07] <geraudk2000> I just do the test on http://www.html5test.com/
[12:07] <tensorpudding> Wait, I forgot, that one isn't included by default.
[12:07] <geraudk2000> but I have 0/20 in local device
[12:07] <tensorpudding> So I guess it only supports Theora.
[12:08] <tensorpudding> That's pretty disappointing.
[12:08] <tensorpudding> I've been happy using the official Chrome.
[12:08] <administrator> hell!
[12:08] <tensorpudding> geraudk2000: The version in 10.10 will probably support WebM
[12:08] <Dulak> same, the official chrome has been rock solid for me, and there is a repo for it so it updates nicely
[12:09] <Kruptein> there is nobody in the wxPython channel, so I ask it here:   Does anyone know how to get the same effect as EVT_COMMAND_TEXT_ENTER but with the tab key instead of the enter key?
[12:09] <tensorpudding> geraudk2000: So if you wait 8 days, you can upgrade to it when it officially releases
[12:09] <v3nd3tta``> !mint
[12:09] <geraudk2000> tensorpudding: Ok I'm looking forward ubuntu 10.10
[12:09] <juk> Kruptein: just #python
[12:10] <Kruptein> juk omfg no I did it again, :p I always type #ubuntu instead of #python
[12:10] <tensorpudding> geraudk2000: Your other option is to switch to Chrome, which has a PPA available to make it easy for you
[12:12] <juk> Kruptein: why?
[12:12] <geraudk2000> tensorpudding: ok, You have a link for me to do it?
[12:12] <Dulak> the official chrome (beta) played every video fine for me on this page: http://www.html5video.org/demos/
[12:12] <Kruptein> juk I don't know :p I go to both channels a lot
[12:12] <geraudk2000> tensorpudding: I google it
[12:13] <Dulak> http://www.google.com/landing/chrome/beta/
[12:14] <marco972> Bonjour
[12:15] <rww> !fr
[12:15] <cristina> ciao!
[12:16] <moetunes> !it
[12:16] <cristina> list!
[12:16] <moetunes> cristina:  not that sort of channel
[12:17] <AbhiJit> brasero telling install cdrdao package. but its already installed.
[12:17] <dolphin> hi!
[12:18] <moetunes> AbhiJit:  is it a version thing?
[12:18] <AbhiJit> moetunes, cdrdao is the latest version installed
[12:18] <moetunes> AbhiJit:  and which version is brasero asking for?
[12:19] <AbhiJit> moetunes, its not asking for version it tells that i dont have cdrdao at all install cdrdao but i have
[12:19] <AbhiJit> !pm > pankaj_sharma
[12:20] <moetunes> AbhiJit:  if all is from the package manager then you might need to file a bug
[12:20] <pankaj_sharma> ok
[12:20] <AbhiJit> moetunes, yah
[12:20] <AbhiJit> we dont have a proper cd buring tool in linux
[12:21] <AbhiJit> each time i need to guess which will work of them
[12:21] <moetunes> AbhiJit:  I prefer k3b myself
[12:21] <AbhiJit> moetunes, cd burning tool is like casino to me! i never knows which one will work - its just luck
[12:21] <rww> wodim wfm
[12:22] <rww> though it isn't point and click, so i guess that's not useful for you.
[12:22] <AbhiJit> pankaj_sharma, http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/text_editing/vim.html.en
[12:22] <moetunes> AbhiJit:  there's no reason it should be like that - is your install the default ubuntu?
[12:22] <AbhiJit> moetunes, yes default ubuntu and when it comes to cd - luck
[12:23] <moetunes> AbhiJit:  I've never heard anyone else have that issue - nothing diff with the hardware?
[12:24] <AbhiJit> no notihng differne
[12:24] <moetunes> k
[12:24] <AbhiJit> moetunes, now k3b is working. but if i come tomorow and insert same cd and tell k3b to do the same work as of today
[12:24] <AbhiJit> then i am sure it will not work. and some other will work
[12:25] <erry> Um
[12:25] <erry> Idk if you can help me but
[12:25] <erry> My laptop is... Bleeding?
[12:25] <tensorpudding> Bleeding?!
[12:25] <moetunes> AbhiJit:  to me that would suggest a hardware issue - software isn't inconsistent like that...
[12:25] <erry> Yes
[12:25] <erry> The screen has like
[12:25] <erry> liquid
[12:25] <tensorpudding> You mean leaking?
[12:25] <erry> coming out of it at some part
[12:25] <rww> ##hardware
[12:25] <FloodBot1> erry: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:25] <erry> and it looks like it's broken
[12:25] <erry> but when i touch it it doesnt feel broken
[12:25] <LjL> it does sound like it's broken
[12:25] <oCean> erry: that's not an ubuntu issue, so it's offtopic here
[12:26] <erry> sorry
[12:26] <AbhiJit> moetunes, yah
[12:26] <rww> Ubuntu does not cause screen stigmata.
[12:26] <rww> and if it did, that'd be in the release notes.
[12:27] <AbhiJit> moetunes, do you know how to create image of cd using command line?
[12:27] <AbhiJit> iso
[12:27] <moetunes> AbhiJit:  not offhand bur\t there's plenty on the web for that
[12:28] <moetunes> AbhiJit:  not offhand but there's plenty on the web for that
[12:28] <AbhiJit> moetunes, ok np
[12:28] <aba_> hello
[12:29] <moetunes> hello aba_
[12:29] <oCean> AbhiJit: if cd is in /dev/cdrom, the following is often suggested: dd if=/dev/cdrom of=image.iso bs=2k
[12:32] <alket> Im trying to create a bootable usb with Maverick RC , with Startup Disk Creator, at 99% an error displays " Checksum didn't match "
[12:32] <cheater99> hi
[12:33] <moetunes> alket:  did you do the iso md5 check or ask in the 10.10 channel #ubuntu+1 ?
[12:33] <oCean> alket: maverick issues in #ubuntu+1 channel
[12:33] <Edward_Elric> .
[12:33] <moetunes> ..
[12:34] <cheater99> hi
[12:34] <cheater99> how can i configure which services start on system load?
[12:34] <Edward_Elric> ...
[12:34] <moetunes> !autostart | cheater99
[12:34] <alket> moetunes, yes i did
[12:34] <xuekan> there is a new movie named "four lions",it's really funny,worths to see.
[12:35] <cheater99> there is no system->preferences->sessions
[12:35] <oCean> xuekan: that's very offtopic here
[12:35] <cheater99> moetunes: i'm talking about things like apache, squid, etc
[12:36] <Dice-Man> on boot ?
[12:36] <moetunes> cheater99:  they should be started during boot
[12:36] <xuekan> oCean:yeah,i know that, I am seeing it, and cann't help talking out.it's really worths to see.
[12:36] <moetunes> !upstart
[12:36] <cheater99> moetunes: yes
[12:36] <cheater99> moetunes: how do i configure which ones do get started?
[12:36] <oCean> xuekan: please don't do it again
[12:36] <oCean> !startup | cheater99
[12:36] <moetunes> cheater99:  please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
[12:36] <cheater99> moetunes: for example i have squid and squid3 installed, and i only want one of them to start at boot.
[12:37] <xuekan> oCean:ok.
[12:37] <cheater99> oCean: that doesn't work
[12:37] <oCean> !bum | cheater99
[12:37] <cheater99> moetunes: thanks will do
[12:37] <oCean> cheater99: i meant this next one
[12:37] <cheater99> oCean: thanks :)
[12:38] <moetunes> cool
[12:39] <radiomark> Hi, I wanted to test the release candidate. I downloaded the .iso and used "dd" to write it to a USB disk. But I can't boot from it? How do I make a bootable USB key?
[12:39] <tensorpudding> unetbootin
[12:39] <moetunes> !unetbootin
[12:39] <cheater99> ok, different question now :)
[12:40] <moetunes> radiomark:  ^^
[12:40] <bomber> you have to uncompress the .iso file ... all you did was burn a compressed file
[12:40] <cheater99> i have had to kill synaptic (it was taking ages to select a package), this was not during install, only during selection. how do i unlock package managers now?
[12:40] <oCean> radiomark: support for the 10.10 RC in #ubuntu+1 please (as the topic of this channel states)
[12:41] <erUSUL> !aptlock
[12:41] <radiomark> oCean: Sorry, I saw my issue as general Ubuntu, and not specifically the RC
[12:41] <cheater99> ah there we go, just had to move the lock file
[12:42] <cool-aide> is this channel supporting fluxbox?
[12:43] <cheater99> another question: my bash takes ages to start up. probably because of the amount of binaries etc. how can i optimize this?
[12:43] <erUSUL> cheater99: amount of binaries?
[12:43] <erUSUL> cheater99: check if you do some expensive operation in ~/.bashrc
[12:44] <cheater99> dified .bashrc
[12:44] <cheater99> i hadn't modified .bashrc
[12:44] <radiomark> Can I download the usb-creator program anywhere? Or even just do the process manually? I am not on Ubuntu, you see
[12:45] <erUSUL> radiomark: should be in System>Admin...>
[12:45] <moetunes> radiomark:  it is a linux app
[12:46] <moetunes> floodbot war
[12:46] <erUSUL> cheater99: then i do not what can be cousing this... try running « bash --noprofile » is it slow too ?
[12:46] <radiomark> moetunes: yes, I cannot find the code or a tar.gz or similar
[12:47] <radiomark> The launchpad site does not have any downloads either
[12:47] <moetunes> radiomark:  it is more then likely an ubuntu app - you could browse ubuntu packages from ubuntu.com
[12:48] <moetunes> !packages
[12:48] <radiomark> moetunes: hmmm, yes. This is a bit of a chicken-and-egg situation then
[12:48] <moetunes> http://packages.ubuntu.com
[12:48] <cool-aide> i just downloaded the ubuntu 10.04 lucid iso file...is there a way i can install fresh ubuntu distro without burning the .iso file? like i would like to install it using the terminal?
[12:48] <moetunes> !install
[12:49] <zara212>  can someone tell me how to make all files to associate with default applications which can open them properly. i mean i installed "ubuntu-tweak" and i see that there are many many audio files which are not associate with vlc. also i see that vlc just associating with 10-15 audio files. but i think vlc can open many many files from the list. so also gedit and gimp i think they are also not opens the files they had to. can we do something for it. there are mil
[12:49] <cheater99> erUSUL: let's see
[12:49] <erUSUL> cool-aide: with a usb stick ?
[12:49] <vu1kan> is there any place ram usage is logged?
[12:49] <moetunes> vu1kan:  not afaik
[12:49] <erUSUL> vu1kan: "free -m" ; "top" ...
[12:49] <moetunes> logged he said...
[12:49] <cheater99> erUSUL: yes
[12:50] <AndChat|> wow
[12:50] <moetunes> use wine for wow
[12:51] <AndChat|> hi,all
[12:51] <vu1kan> top doesn't do me any good, really, i'm wanting to know what application is suddenly sucking my ram(and i am aware of the fact that linux uses unallocated ram as a cache), i'll be watching a movie, and my ram usage will go from 40% to max in a matter of seconds...completely randomly.
[12:51] <kwork> vu1kan until it doesnot swap its okey
[12:51] <erUSUL> cheater99: and what is slow? « time bash --noprofile -c "exit" » in my system is real    0m0.007s
[12:52] <radiomark> Hmmm. I have to admit defeat on this... I downloaded usb-creator.tar.gz, but all I get is some big python app. Isn't there a simple shell script (or similar) at its core which converts .iso to a USB image?
[12:52] <kwork> vu1kan top should show memory usage, can even sort by memory usage
[12:52] <erUSUL> vu1kan: well top can order by memory usage ( hit M )
[12:52] <cheater99> that's funny
[12:52] <linzhavon> hi
[12:53] <cool-aide> erUSUL: if possible yes...but i got it .iso file...not yet extracted or something.....is it possible?
[12:53] <vu1kan> after the fact? case in point: i had to zap my x server less than five minutes ago because something grabbed ahold of enough ram that i wasn't able to move my pointer\
[12:53] <cheater99> erUSUL: when i do that, it shows me very fast times. but if i type in "bash" in bash, the cursor hangs for 1-3 seconds, and i only get a prompt then.
[12:53] <Dulak> radiomark: unetbootin can convert just about any iso to a flash drive
[12:53] <erUSUL> cool-aide: use unetbootin or the usb disk creator
[12:53] <linzhavon> when ubuntu release new version?
[12:53] <erUSUL> cheater99: maybe is the terminal app ? what xterminal do you use?
[12:53] <dmizer> I have an old DELL laptop with an old PIII processor. My CPU fan is not running. There is nothing about the fan located in /proc/acpi
[12:53] <radiomark> Dulak: unetbootin is a Windows app? Unfortunately I am on Linux, or OpenBSD
[12:54] <Dulak> radiomark: it's a linux app
[12:54] <cheater99> i have done "time bash --noprofile" and pressed C-d immediately when i got the prompt. real	0m4.109s user	0m0.676s sys	0m0.124s
[12:54] <Dulak> radiomark: there is a windows version as well iirc
[12:54] <cheater99> erUSUL: i use gnome-terminal
[12:54] <cheater99> erUSUL: i remember trying it with other things, but let's see
[12:54] <rww> linzhavon: hopefully the 10th of October
[12:54] <quiescens> bash with -c changes its behaviour
[12:55] <linzhavon_> rww: it's very amazing!
[12:56] <quiescens> cheater99: if you do bash --norc --noprofile it should be nearly instant, but it won't have the environment that it normally does
[12:56] <erUSUL> cheater99: with crtl +d  ---> real    0m0.942s
[12:56] <zara212> can someone tell me how to make all files to associate with default applications which can open them properly. i mean i installed "ubuntu-tweak" and i see that there are many many audio files which are not associate with vlc. also i see that vlc just associating with 10-15 audio files. but i think vlc can open many many files from the list. so also gedit and gimp i think they are also not opens the files they had to. can we do something for it. there are mill
[12:56] <cheater99> i have the same problem in rxvt and xterm
[12:56] <ManDay> Can anyone tell me how Ubuntu enables multi-head output without the use of xinerama - or why xinerama is necessary if X can apparently do it without it?!?!
[12:56] <cheater99> quiescens: yes, it is instant
[12:57] <kooori> does ubuntu have gui ?
[12:57] <icarus-c> kooori, of course
[12:57] <cheater99> quiescens: how do i go about figuring out what's up?
[12:58] <kooori> like im kinda new to this, so ubuntu is its own operating system with GUI yeah?
[12:58] <tensorpudding> you can install Ubuntu Server without the GUI though
[12:58] <vu1kan> kooori: yeah
[12:58] <kooori> does it have driver support for new devices n stuff? ( question being is that im sick of windows)
[12:58] <ManDay> Can anyone tell me how Ubuntu enables multi-head output without the use of xinerama - or why xinerama is necessary if X can apparently do it without it?!?!
[12:58] <cheater99> erUSUL, quiescens: ok, the problem is definitely in ~/.bashrc    after moving it out, i get instant bash
[12:58] <sh4d3sl4y3r_> how should I create an installable USB-MEDIA for Ubuntu 10.04 from within Debian? unetbootin fails making a bootable usb
[12:58] <icarus-c> kooori, but technically the GUI shipped by ubuntu default is made by another community.  but yea, ubuntu got GUI
[12:58] <tensorpudding> kooori: It has driver support for a lot of devices.
[12:59] <kooori> =o
[12:59] <tensorpudding> kooori: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport/
[12:59] <cheater99> good morning tensor
[12:59] <kooori> lets say i was to install it on another pc... do i need any other software besides the ubuntu ?
[12:59] <oCean> kooori: there's a livecd exactly for your purposes: boot up, use/test ubuntu and only after that, decide what to do
[12:59] <icarus-c> kooori, uh.......ubuntu is a Linux distribution,  which distribute software
[13:00] <kooori> nice thanks for that sir :D
[13:00] <tensorpudding> kooori: Installing Ubuntu is like installing Windows, you might need to download drivers afterwards, but in theory it provides what you need to be functional
[13:00] <kooori> so i gotta install linux then ubuntu your saying?
[13:00] <oCean> kooori: there is a *vast* collection of software which you can install/use after installing the base system
[13:00] <icarus-c> kooori, so you may consider ubuntu has thousands of software can be installed with a few clicks
[13:00] <tensorpudding> kooori: Ubuntu is a Linux distribution, it provides all you need to start
[13:00] <kooori> ah nice
[13:00] <tensorpudding> kooori: There is a large library of software you can install afterward though
[13:00] <kooori> you guys are very helpful :D
[13:00] <kooori> nice nice
[13:00] <zara212> can someone tell me how to make all files to associate with default applications which can open them properly. i mean i installed "ubuntu-tweak" and i see that there are many many audio files which are not associate with vlc. also i see that vlc just associating with 10-15 audio files. but i think vlc can open many many files from the list. so also gedit and gimp i think they are also not opens the files they had to. can we do something for it. there are mill
[13:01] <linzhavon_> kooori: haha
[13:01] <rascal316316> hey guys how do i map my spacebar key to a different key like the windows key on  the keyboard,My space bar is not working well
[13:01] <oCean> kooori: see here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCD
[13:01] <radiomark> Dulak: Thanks, I found the Linux version. But it is a GUI app with lots of dependencies which are not available to me
[13:01] <tensorpudding> kooori: Not all software that you're familiar with from Windows is available though
[13:01] <linzhavon_> oh, #ubuntu is so pop.
[13:01] <kooori> ahhh
[13:02] <tensorpudding> kooori: For instance, there is no Microsoft Office, but there is the alternative Open Office
[13:02] <ManDay> What does Ubuntu use to realize Dual Screen setup?
[13:02] <cheater99> ok
[13:02] <quiescens> cheater99: in all likelyhood the slowest part of your .bashrc (assuming it is mostly default) is the part right at the end about completion
[13:02] <cheater99> i have found the problem
[13:02] <tensorpudding> kooori: If you have some applications in mind you should check to see if they are available for Linux.
[13:02] <cheater99> it stalls during execution of /etc/bash_completion
[13:02] <dmizer> my cpu fan is not running. how can i force it to turn on. i have an old PIII laptop and there's nothing about the fan in /proc/acpi.
[13:02] <cheater99> yes quiescens :)
[13:03] <kooori> does ubuntu get viruses
[13:03] <kooori> like is there a virus scene on it
[13:03] <rascal316316> hey guys how do i map my spacebar key to a different key like the windows key on the keyboard,My space bar is not working well
[13:03] <tensorpudding> kooori: For some there are software replacements, for others there are not.
[13:03] <icarus-c> kooori, none i heard of
[13:03] <quiescens> cheater99: stalls is a bit of a misnomer, its doing something, it just takes longer than you would like
[13:03] <kooori> =]
[13:03] <popey> !virus | kooori
[13:03] <miga> hi there
[13:03] <cheater99> quiescens: what's the difference between that and "stalls"?
[13:03] <sh4d3sl4y3r_> kooori: windows binaries are not supported in linux environments. hence the chances of viruses are almost nil
[13:03] <cheater99> is "stalling" only when it's waiting for an unavailable resource?
[13:04] <dmizer> rascal316316 ... have you tried pulling the spacebar off and cleaning the connections?
[13:04] <pankaj_sharma> kooori: i think there is panda antivirus
[13:04] <ManDay> What does Ubuntu use to realize Dual Screen setup?
[13:04] <quiescens> cheater99: pretty much, don't mind me, i'm just picking at words
[13:04] <sh4d3sl4y3r_> pankaj_sharma: clamav is better. but there is no need
[13:04] <cheater99> quiescens: no, that's helpful, thanks
[13:04] <popey> ManDay: depends on the video card
[13:04] <pankaj_sharma> yeah
[13:04] <cheater99> quiescens: i didn't realize the difference
[13:04] <icarus-c> why ever put a anti virus on a linux system when the anti virus is to against windows virus only..
[13:04] <popey> ManDay: i use nvidia on my dual-screen desktop, and intel on my dual screen laptop
[13:04] <cheater99> quiescens: so i wonder if there's a way to make bash_completion execute asynchronously
[13:05] <kwork> icarus-c fileserver?
[13:05] <popey> icarus-c: in case you share files with windows pcs, you dont want to pass on files which have viruses in them
[13:05] <pankaj_sharma> icarus-c: linux machine acts as router for viruses
[13:05] <sh4d3sl4y3r_> icarus-c: you can clean a pen drive infected with a virus which might affect other windows boxes
[13:05] <icarus-c> i missed saying "unless you have windows system involved" :P
[13:05] <sh4d3sl4y3r_> itself linux machines are immune
[13:05] <ManDay> popey: What I mean is how does Ubuntu handle dual monitors BY DEFAULT? there is that "monitors" preferencesthing out of the box - what is it? xinerama? twinview? ???
[13:05] <rascal316316> nopes i was going to open it and clean it up ... but  i wanted to know  if  mapping one key to another one was possible
[13:05] <zara212> can someone please tell me a "file types manager" for Ubuntu ? (not ubuntu-tweak please)
[13:06] <pankaj_sharma> nautilus
[13:06] <sh4d3sl4y3r_> Manday: depends on you card. nvidia shits nvidia-settings for that
[13:06] <popey> ManDay: again, depends on the video card
[13:06] <sh4d3sl4y3r_> *ships
[13:06] <sh4d3sl4y3r_> err
[13:06] <popey> ManDay: twinview is nvidia only
[13:06] <ManDay> popey: I know - but ubuntu has something installed by default to get it working , no?
[13:06] <popey> ManDay: yes
[13:06] <ManDay> what does this preferences->monitors panel belong to?
[13:07] <popey> ManDay: that wont do nvidia cards with the binary nvidia driver
[13:07] <kooori> can i run ubuntu on Virtual Pc on windows?
[13:07] <ManDay> popey: so what is it?
[13:07] <popey> ManDay: the nvidia driver installs nvidia-settings which replaces the monitors preferences panel
[13:07] <icarus-c> kooori, why not
[13:07] <popey> ManDay: that preferences panel is good for non-nvidia machines
[13:07] <ManDay> popey: and what is it?
[13:07] <ManDay> xinerama?
[13:07] <popey> ManDay: what is what?
[13:08] <ManDay> that DEFAULT preferences panel for monitors that is working out of the box?
[13:08] <ManDay> i just wonder because xinerama appears not be installed
[13:08] <popey> ManDay: it doesnt use xinerama here for nvida or intel
[13:08] <ManDay> or does X not need an additional extension at all to get dual monitors working?!
[13:08] <ManDay> popey: indeed, but what DOES it use?!
[13:08] <popey> ManDay: it doesn't "use" anything external
[13:09] <popey> ManDay: the driver just supports dual screens out of the box
[13:09] <ManDay> so X can do that all without additional extensions?
[13:09] <popey> yeah
[13:09] <ManDay> so what is xinerama good for then?
[13:09] <sh4d3sl4y3r_> Manday: i have a dual display setup .. nvidia-settings did the trick without any complications
[13:09] <popey> (on intel)
[13:09] <sh4d3sl4y3r_> it configures your xorg configuration file automatically
[13:09] <ManDay> ohhhhhhhh
[13:09] <moetunes> ManDay:  use xrandr now instead of xinerama
[13:09] <popey> it can also screw your xorg.conf up nicely
[13:09] <ManDay> so xinerama is just a convenience?!
[13:09] <moetunes> !xrandr
[13:10] <zara212> can someone please tell me a "file types manager" for Ubuntu ? (not ubuntu-tweak please)
[13:10] <ManDay> yeah i know xrandr
[13:10] <ManDay> thanks
[13:10] <ManDay> i was just wondering what use xinerama has
[13:10] <sh4d3sl4y3r_> popey: not in my 5 years of linux, bsd scenario it screwed my xorg.conf / Xfree86 / whatever
[13:10] <moetunes> ManDay:  it s 2010
[13:10] <ikonia> ManDay: xinerama is the legacy dual head/xorg server extension
[13:10] <ManDay> moetunes: what?
[13:10] <gunny17> Can anyone tell me how to increase the font size in a tty for ubuntu10.4?
[13:10] <popey> !wfm | sh4d3sl4y3r_
[13:10] <moetunes> ManDay:  use xrandr now instead of xinerama
[13:10] <miga> Can anyone give me a hand? Recently I made an update of my ubuntu and now I don't have networkmonitor and wireless
[13:10] <ikonia> ManDay: not all cards have tools like twinview
[13:11] <ManDay> ikonia: so these days one doesnt need anything but a correct xorg.conf
[13:11] <popey> ManDay: some dont even need an xorg.conf
[13:11] <ikonia> ManDay: pretty much, I still use xinerama fr some cards
[13:11] <popey> ManDay: my laptop has no xorg.conf at all
[13:11] <ManDay> popey: well, these days xorg is magic
[13:11] <moetunes> it is xorg.conf.d now
[13:11] <pankaj_sharma> can anyone tell me how to open terminal by using key alt+ctrl+f2 .. becuse its not opening in here.why
[13:11] <ManDay> pure magic...
[13:11] <sh4d3sl4y3r_> popey: not always geek suggestions are good for new people
[13:11] <popey> \o/ magic
[13:11] <ikonia> sh4d3sl4y3r_: it's not a geek suggestion
[13:12] <ikonia> sh4d3sl4y3r_: and manday is not new
[13:12] <icarus-c> pankaj_sharma, that should switch to tty terminal
[13:12] <pankaj_sharma> yeah
[13:12] <popey> sh4d3sl4y3r_: geek suggestions? I was merely pointing out that your 5 years of no xorg.conf corruption doesn't outweigh my xorg.conf corruption
[13:12] <pankaj_sharma> its not opening
[13:12] <ManDay> thanks ikonia :P
[13:12] <icarus-c> pankaj_sharma, what about f3,f4...etc
[13:12] <pankaj_sharma> nothing is working
[13:12] <zara212> can someone please tell me a "file types manager" for Ubuntu ? (not ubuntu-tweak please)
[13:12] <popey> zara212: whats the goal you're trying to achieve?
[13:12] <icarus-c> pankaj_sharma, holding ctrl & alt & f2  together is what you did ?
[13:13] <pankaj_sharma> yup
[13:13] <_pHI_> I have a quick question: if i keep my Ubuntu 10.10 RC up-to-date, can i avoid installing the final 10.10 when it comes out? will i have all the latest packages?
[13:13] <_pHI_> is it the same for beta and alpha?
[13:13] <ikonia> _pHI_: 10.10 discussion in #ubuntu+1 channel please
[13:13] <pankaj_sharma> icarus-c: by the way i using ubuntu on vmware..
[13:13] <_pHI_> ikonia: ok thnx
[13:13] <icarus-c> pankaj_sharma, ..... then insult vmware documentation on how to pass Ctrl-Alt key to guest OS
[13:14] <sh4d3sl4y3r_> insult? :P
[13:14] <ManDay> there is something else you guys might know tho: have you ever come a cross a dual head setup where the space of the virtual desktop which was NOT covered by viewscreens was "blocked" like its is on windows?
[13:14] <icarus-c> meh
[13:14] <pankaj_sharma> hahah insult
[13:14] <bitbartx> hi all
[13:14] <icarus-c> consult :P
[13:14] <sh4d3sl4y3r_> :D
[13:14] <ManDay> (so your mousepointer cant get lost there)
[13:14] <ikonia> ManDay: some ati(old) used to have that glitch
[13:15] <gunny17> Can anyone tell me how to increase the font size in a tty for ubuntu 10.4?
[13:15] <ManDay> ikonia: "glitch" ?
[13:15] <ManDay> now that is a real feature!
[13:15] <zara212> popey: i will backup my system after 2-3 days. now i need to associate all filetypes (at least most of them) with all applications with needed. for example 7z is not opening with peazip or archive manager on me. i have to open it by clicking on "openwith" . ok maybe i can fix it for 10-15 filetypes which i know. but there are many many filetypes on any operation system. i use ubuntu . how to can make associations?
[13:15] <pankaj_sharma> icarus-c: but i can pass ctl+alt+del command...
[13:15] <cool-aide> is there any force command on how to delete such file?
[13:15] <ManDay> ikonia: i dont see how this relates to the type of card tho - preventing the mousepointer from going somewhere seems like a purely x related thing
[13:16] <ikonia> ManDay: some old ATI cards used to have that behaviour as a glitch
[13:16] <pankaj_sharma> icarus-c: why it is not taking ctl+alt+f2 .. and there is nothing written in vmware doc.. i think so
[13:16] <Guest66849> hello
[13:17] <icarus-c> pankaj_sharma, try:  ctrl-alt-space  then release space (still holding ctrl-alt)  then press F2
[13:17] <zara212> popey: i want if firefox can open 40 filetypes i want to let it to associate to all this files. also vlc, gimp gedit... that is my problem. how to do that ?
[13:17] <cheater99> quiescens: any idea what bash_completion is for, actually?
[13:18] <ikonia> cheater99: it's for auto completion of commands/files
[13:18] <cheater99> quiescens: i can auto-complete commands normally without it..
[13:18] <cheater99> it would seem
[13:18] <ikonia> cheater99: doubtful
[13:18] <cheater99> ikonia: try and see
[13:18] <ikonia> cheater99: try where
[13:18] <cheater99> ikonia: type "ba <tab>"
[13:18] <ikonia> where ?
[13:18] <cheater99> ikonia: try it on your system.
[13:18] <icarus-c> zara212, right click on the file -> properties -> open with .  then select the default application to open the file
[13:18] <whizz> cheater99: not after a reboot, I guess
[13:18] <cheater99> disable bash_completion in your ~./bashrc, and run bash
[13:18] <ikonia> cheater99: when you open a terminal, you're alreay in a bash shell
[13:19] <ikonia> cheater99: that's bash completion
[13:19] <cool-aide> is there any force command on how to delete such file?
[13:19] <rww> bash itself does completion of filenames. bash-completion does completion of other stuff.
[13:19] <ikonia> cheater99: that's proframming completion,
[13:19] <icarus-c> cheater99, if you got bash completion, you could enter "gnome-con" then hit [tab]  , it should finish up  gnome-control-center  for you automatically
[13:19] <cheater99> proframming?
[13:20] <cheater99> icarus-c: yes. i have disabled that and can do it anyways
[13:20] <zara212> icarus-c:  i tell you that i know that. but how to can i let to application to associate to all filetypes which can open properly ? i can not do this think to every frmat. there are many many formats which we are using. also we don't know what we can do for some programs.
[13:20] <silasdavis> does anyone know where I can find the .deb for sshd on feisty fawn?
[13:20] <dave65> yo all, 10.10 is great
[13:20] <ikonia> silasdavis: that release is dead/EOL
[13:20] <silasdavis> yes I know
[13:20] <icarus-c> cheater99, having "disable bash_completion" in .bashrc shouldn't disable bash completion
[13:20] <ikonia> dave65: this is a support channel, ubuntu 10.10 discussion in #ubuntu+1 please
[13:21] <dave65> what release?
[13:21] <GoWindows7> WARNING: UBUNTU is a buggy piece of shit. It is not worth the plastic it's distributed on. You will have countless problems and when you ask for help, they'll say "Well, you didn't pay, so stop complaining". Windows 7 is far better, and just works. Download Microsoft Windows 7 today!
[13:21] <GoWindows7> WARNING: UBUNTU is a buggy piece of shit. It is not worth the plastic it's distributed on. You will have countless problems and when you ask for help, they'll say "Well, you didn't pay, so stop complaining". Windows 7 is far better, and just works. Download Microsoft Windows 7 today!
[13:21] <FloodBot2> GoWindows7: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:21] <silasdavis> but upgrading it is not an option now, and I really need to get ssh back
[13:21] <dave65> ikonia:  just saying thanks, geez
[13:21] <ikonia> silasdavis: the old repos are alive in the arvhice
[13:21] <ikonia> dave65: there isnt a need to
[13:21] <cheater99> icarus-c: i commented it out of .bashrc
[13:22] <ikonia> cheater99: bash has auto complete as part of the software
[13:22] <quiescens> cheater99: bash_completion is for
[13:22] <dmizer> please help me turn on my CPU fan before my laptop literally melts through the floor? The BIOS is clearly not controlling the fan correctly and my CPU is burning up.
[13:22] <dave65> ty
[13:22] <quiescens> ..
[13:22] <cheater99> quiescens: take your time :)
[13:22] <quiescens> cheater99: bash_completion is for.. more advanced completion, like completion of arguments
[13:22] <pksadiq> GoWindows7 , Yeah absolutely a KG student will think that integral(log(x) is something impossible and irrelevant
[13:22] <icarus-c> cheater99, i bet you don't even have a  "disable" command to run by .bashrc
[13:22] <cheater99> icarus-c: stop trolling
[13:22] <silasdavis> ikonia: could you point me in the right direction, I'd tried to get this up and running before with no luck
[13:23] <ikonia> silasdavis: look on the old-releases.ubuntu.com site
[13:23] <cheater99> quiescens: do you have a common example?
[13:23] <pankaj_sharma> icarus-c its working man
[13:23] <quiescens> cheater99: if you want you can look at /etc/bash_completion itself, as well as the files in /etc/bash_completion.d
[13:23] <icarus-c> pankaj_sharma, google ftw :D
[13:23] <quiescens> cheater: the most common example is probably typing apt-get install (start of a package name)<tab>
[13:23] <icarus-c> cheater99, .bashrc is just a bash script to execute at bash start.  man bash for detail
[13:23] <pankaj_sharma> icarus-c: how to come out of tty?
[13:24] <cheater99> icarus-c: you have been added to my ignore list, troll
[13:24] <pksadiq> Press ALT
[13:24] <icarus-c> pankaj_sharma, your X session should be on F1 or F7 onwards
[13:24] <pksadiq> +Control + F&
[13:24] <pksadiq> +Control + F7
[13:24] <pksadiq> Sorry, :) My mistake
[13:24] <cheater99> quiescens: do you have a simple example where the difference can be seen?
[13:24] <pankaj_sharma> ty all
[13:25] <silasdavis> ikonia: can I put something in sources.list to make it use that repo?
[13:25] <ikonia> silasdavis: yes
[13:26] <quiescens> cheater99: as in, typing apt-g<tab> will complete in either case, typing apt-get ins<tab> will complete the word "install" if you have the extra bash_completion stuff
[13:26] <cheater99> quiescens: mhm
[13:27] <quiescens> cheater99: or something like apt-get install linux-image-<tab><tab>
[13:27] <pankaj_sharma> how can we change the foreground color(txt) in tty?
[13:27] <icarus-c> pankaj_sharma, use escape sequence
[13:27] <cheater99> quiescens: gotcha
[13:27] <dwarder> what do you use for icqing
[13:27] <icarus-c> pankaj_sharma, like   command :   printf "\033[32m"
[13:28] <icarus-c> pankaj_sharma, \033[32m is the ascii escape sequence for green
[13:28] <silasdavis> ikonia: i don't have a sources.list to look at would 'deb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty/' work?
[13:28] <dwarder> what do you use for icq protocol?
[13:28] <icarus-c> pankaj_sharma, \033[0m to revert to normal
[13:28] <pankaj_sharma> icarus-c,ty
[13:28] <ikonia> silasdavis: why don't you have a sources.list
[13:29] <icarus-c> dwarder, pidgin got that i think
[13:29] <silasdavis> ikonia: because someone tried to correct it and its buggered
[13:29] <silasdavis> so I don't want to crib off it
[13:29] <dwarder> icarus-c: what do you use :)
[13:29] <icarus-c> dwarder, i don't use ICQ
[13:29] <ikonia> silasdavis: there are plenty of exmaple ones on the web
[13:30] <AbhiJit> how to convert p2i to iso on ubuntu?
[13:31] <cheater99> quiescens: any idea how to make bash_completion execute in a deferred way?
[13:31] <cheater99> quiescens: adding & to the end of that line in ~/.bashrc disables its functionality, even though the script executes.
[13:31] <quiescens> shrugs
[13:32] <cheater99> :)
[13:34] <pksadiq> exit
[13:34] <zenyatta> G'day
[13:35] <pankaj_sharma> kde is not installed in my system.how to go for it?
[13:35] <icarus-c> pankaj_sharma, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE
[13:35] <davidrussellmob> M
[13:35] <AbhiJit> pankaj_sharma, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[13:35] <pankaj_sharma> ty
[13:35] <AbhiJit> how to convert p2i to iso on ubuntu?
[13:35] <pankaj_sharma> icarus-c, u r very helpful
[13:37] <moetunes> AbhiJit:  what is a p2i file from?
[13:38] <AbhiJit> moetunes, cyberlink dvd
[13:38] <moetunes> AbhiJit:  it is prob a proprietry format...
[13:38] <AbhiJit> moetunes, yes
[13:40] <moetunes> AbhiJit:  short of a google search I would think they don't have a linux port of that
[13:41] <moetunes> s/google/web/
[13:44] <AbhiJit> moetunes, :(
[13:44] <moetunes> AbhiJit:  bummer - I have no windows here
[13:44] <AbhiJit> moetunes, ohhh
[13:45] <moetunes> gnu/linux since 2003
[13:45] <AbhiJit> oh great!
[13:47] <moetunes> doesn't help with the  p2i file prob tho..
[13:47] <cheater99> ahh
[13:47] <cheater99> there's bash_dyncompletion which is much nicer
[13:47] <cheater99> what is the default .bashrc that is used for all new users? is it /root/.bashrc ?
[13:48] <resorob> cheater99: may be /etc/skel/.bashrc ?
[13:49] <cool-aide> is there any force command on how to delete such file?
[13:49] <cheater99> great, thanks resorob
[13:51] <DarkSector> ping
[13:51] <DarkSector> sorry
[13:51] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[13:52] <pankaj_sharma> how to change login screen in ubuntu?
[13:53] <conb123> How can I get the size of my system files in ubuntu? I am trying to get the properties of all the folders except cdrom, home, media and mnt but it just keeps giving me 128TB
[13:53] <iromli> GDM?
[13:53] <Warp4> conb123, use the du command on the folders you want to get sizes on
[13:53] <dena> šđžćččćć
[13:53] <pankaj_sharma> how to change login screen in ubuntu?
[13:54] <The_Dude> Hey guys, I was just wondering if there's a speed advantage to using LBA on a HDD?
[13:55] <decherdt> lucid won't install by itself or after Windows 7 on my new ssd, Ubiquity? gives a read only file system error at /target or /target/app/ or /target/app armor (about 15%) different places at different times
[13:56] <Warp4> pankaj_sharma, http://www.arsgeek.com/2006/09/22/how-to-change-your-login-screen-in-ubuntugnome/
[13:56] <ernie_>  Hello all.  I'm trying to import mbox folders into evolution mail.  the problem is that they are being imported as a single email.  for instance.  folder xxx has 10 emails in it.  I import it and everything looks fine but when I go to the folder there is only one email in it and it is marked with a question mark.  any help here?
[13:58] <icarus-c> conb123, df -h   may get what you need
[13:59] <icarus-c> conb123, if the system relies on its own file system
[13:59] <dr0id> I can't send mails from localhost, why?
[13:59] <icarus-c> conb123, otherwise you will have to run "du -h" on all system folders such as /usr   /opt  /etc /lib... and more
[14:00] <Warp4> dr0id, what errors are you getting?
[14:00] <dr0id> today morning I executed this command -> "sudo tasksel install mail-server"
[14:00] <moetunes> du -hs --apparent-size "dir"   is what works for me
[14:00] <Warp4> dr0id, better to use 'apt-get install postfix'
[14:01] <dr0id> I think tasksel isntall mail-server installs them
[14:01] <Warp4> dr0id, or just run tasksel without any parameters
[14:01] <Warp4> dr0id, anyway what's the problem you are having?
[14:01] <Warp4> dr0id, are you able to telnet to localhost on port 25 and get a response?
[14:02] <conb123> icarus-c: Thanks but I used "sudo du -csh /bin /boot /dev /etc /lib /lib32 /lib64 /opt /proc /root /sbin /selinux /srv /sys /tmp /usr /var" since I wanted to leave out /home. I am trying to work out how much space just the system files would take up on an ssd. I could have /home mounted on my hard drive.
[14:02] <dr0id> http://pastie.org/private/84enbxkdzdazz1wuo6q1da
[14:02] <dr0id> Warp4: may I PM ?
[14:02] <Warp4> dr0id, sure
[14:04] <This_Guy> I would like to perform backups either with an online service, or to another hard drive. Can anyone help? With all the research I've done, it seems quite frustrating.
[14:04] <conb123> icarus-c: The good news is, a 60gb ssd would hold my linux system files, windows os files and windows games and still have room left over
[14:04] <ikonia> This_Guy: copy the files you want to another hard disk, what's the problem ?
[14:05] <iromli> pankaj_sharma: google for GDM
[14:05] <This_Guy> Well, that's not the hard part.
[14:05] <ikonia> This_Guy: so explain what the problem is
[14:05] <This_Guy> I want scheduled backups, preferrably with encryption
[14:05] <icarus-c> This_Guy, tools like rsync should achieve the copying part nicely
[14:06] <ikonia> This_Guy: ok, so cronjob or a tools such as rsync to keep the files in sync, then just encrypt the destination backup
[14:06] <This_Guy> Yes, I know. However, I'm thinking offshore backups would be of benefit
[14:06] <ikonia> This_Guy: why ?
[14:06] <This_Guy> In the event of a fire or tornado.
[14:06] <icarus-c> fire hazard ~.~
[14:07] <This_Guy> Or theft
[14:07] <This_Guy> :|
[14:07] <ikonia> This_Guy: ok, so purchase a remote server, or subscribe to a backup service
[14:07] <This_Guy> But isn't file structure lost with online servies?
[14:07] <ikonia> This_Guy: depends what you buy,
[14:07] <taw> massy44
[14:07] <icarus-c> This_Guy, you could use tar after all
[14:08] <This_Guy> Yeah, true.
[14:08] <This_Guy> Hmmm, online services tend to be more pricey.
[14:08] <ikonia> that's nothing #ubuntu can help you with
[14:08] <This_Guy> I know, haha.
[14:09] <NewGuy> so im testing ubuntu 10.04 and im running into the same thing as with other distros. once the fan comes on it wont shut off. Toshiba l355 laptop. Is there a fix?
[14:09] <coz_> This_Guy,  there is something named  sbackup for ubuntu but I dont think that is exactly what you want
[14:09] <This_Guy> Well, a remote server, you say.
[14:09] <This_Guy> I have nowhere to place it.
[14:09] <coz_> This_Guy,  $10 a month for dropbox  and 50gigs
[14:09] <ikonia> This_Guy: again, not something #ubuntu can help you with
[14:10] <coz_> This_Guy,  you could ask in ##linux to see if they alternatives none of us are familiar with
[14:10] <This_Guy> I was just hoping for suggestions. Sorry!
[14:10] <This_Guy> Thank you for your help. Its much appreciated :)
[14:10] <ikonia> This_Guy: you've been given suggestions, subscribe to a backup service, or purchase an remote server
[14:10] <cheater99> is there a "text version" of the utility "bum"?
[14:10] <michal_> have somebody idea why apache don't ask for password? I made htaccess in directory and insert this line to /etc/apache2/apache2.conf AuthUserFile /etc/apache2/htaccess
[14:10] <coz_> This_Guy,  also look here   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem/SimpleBackupSuite?highlight=%28sbackup%29
[14:10] <michal_> AuthName login
[14:10] <michal_> AuthType Basic
[14:10] <michal_> require valid-user and i used this command: htpasswd -c -b /etc/apache2/htaccess login haslo
[14:11] <This_Guy> coz_ and ikonia: Thanks for your help
[14:12] <giuseppedf> hello everybody! Can you help me on my ubuntu distro and mouse?
[14:12] <misal_yam> I use Ubuntu lucid. I install ubuntu-tweak and i see that many filetypes is not associated. For example 7z (which is the most using formats) is not associated with any application. I can open the file everytime with file-roller and i have to click on "remember this selection for this filetype..." ... I know that think. But there are some filetypes which we don't know how to open them. Also i am not able to say all filetypes one by one to select which applic
[14:12] <misal_yam> I search for it, but i find "filetypes manager" and "ubuntu tweak" to fix this problem but there are many many filetypes which we can not edit them one by one. So that's why i think them we have to let any application on system to associate any filetype which can open it properly. Can someone really help me to do that ?
[14:14] <draeath> I'm trying to sign UbuntuCodeofConduct-1.1.txt for Launchpad. It insists "(7, 8, u'Bad signature')"
[14:14] <draeath> any ideas? I'm following the instructions verbatim.
[14:14] <giuseppedf> does anybody know why sometime, after big data file copying my mouse movement is not smooth and it is impulsed? Is there any istruction (by shell is good too) to reset my mouse?
[14:15] <giuseppedf> FloodBot1, do you know why sometime, after big data file copying my mouse movement is not smooth and it is impulsed? Is there any istruction (by shell is good too) to reset my mouse?
[14:15] <killer999> how to install kubuntu on external hard disk partition so that I can boot from it? I tried once but had to restore Grub
[14:16] <zerdnem> exit
[14:16] <zerdnem> #exit
[14:16] <giuseppedf> zerdnem, sorry, did you refer to me?
[14:17] <Braber01> I can't rember wich equals operator to use when working with numbers in the bash shell can sombody remind me?
[14:18] <cool-aide> i got ubuntu 10.04 and i installed ubuntu-tweak....i want my desktop settings back to its original state from the time i installed my distro....is it possible? using ubuntu tweak? and i havent do back ups?
[14:18] <coz_> cool-aide,  what all did you change on the system?
[14:18] <bazhang> cool-aide, ubuntu-tweak from where? ubuntu repos?
[14:19] <coz_> cool-aide,   if you mean reset gnome   you can do that without ubuntu tweak
[14:20] <coz_> cool-aide,  if you mean compiz  then that can be done from ccsm
[14:20] <ernie_>  Hello all.  I'm trying to import mbox folders into evolution mail.  the problem is that they are being imported as a single email.  for instance.  folder xxx has 10 emails in it.  I import it and everything looks fine but when I go to the folder there is only one email in it and it is marked with a question mark.  any help here?
[14:20] <coz_> cool-aide,  if you want gnome reset  use this command     sudo rm -rf .gnome .gnome2 .gconf .gconfd .metacity      hen restart X
[14:21] <cool-aide> coz_: doing that...is it safe for my files? i mean i got conky runnin too...and i got doc files... is it safe?
[14:22] <coz_> cool-aide,  should be safe for conky...that command is to reset "gnome"  not application options
[14:24] <iircphone> afternoon
[14:24] <killer999> how do i install ubuntu on external hard disk?
[14:24] <pankaj_sharma> warp4: that was an outdated link
[14:24] <cool-aide> i typed it nothing happnd
[14:24] <coz_> cool-aide,  did you restart x
[14:25] <coz_> cool-aide,  you have to restart x  or reboot in order to see the changes
[14:25] <ernie_> can anyone help me trying to get my saved thundirbird mail folders into evolution.  I have followed the directions on importing, but it doesn't work.  each folderonly ends up with one email even though there are multiple emails in each folder
[14:25] <AbhiJit> pankaj_sharma, hey may i pm you?
[14:26] <misal_yam> I use Ubuntu lucid. I install ubuntu-tweak and i see that many filetypes is not associated. For example 7z (which is the most using formats) is not associated with any application. I can open the file everytime with file-roller and i have to click on "remember this selection for this filetype..." ... I know that think. But there are some filetypes which we don't know how to open them. Also i am not able to say all filetypes one by one to select which applic
[14:26] <misal_yam> I search for it, but i find "filetypes manager" and "ubuntu tweak" to fix this problem but there are many many filetypes which we can not edit them one by one. So that's why i think them we have to let any application on system to associate any filetype which can open it properly. Can someone really help me to do that ?
[14:26] <cool-aide> coz_: nothings change.... :(
[14:27] <coz_> cool-aide,   mm  thats not right...let me give you the command again and simply hightlight it here  then   middle click inside the terminal window to paste it
[14:27] <coz_> cool-aide,     sudo rm -rf .gnome .gnome2 .gconf .gconfd .metacity
[14:28] <coz_> cool-aide,   then restart x  by  hitting   ctrl+alt+F2   ...log in  then   sudo restart gdm
[14:29] <cool-aide> coz_: i got it! many thanx to you bro! i love u!
[14:29] <coz_> cool-aide,   no problem
[14:30] <miguelwill> is "sudo service gdm restart"
[14:34] <dwarder> what is better vmware or virtualbox?
[14:35] <pankaj_sharma> vmware rocks fr me
[14:35] <miguelwill> in mi case, virtualbox :D
[14:36] <miguelwill> in Mac, Parallels :P
[14:37] <egoleo> how do i install getlibs on lucid?
[14:38] <coz_> egoleo,  try here   http://explore-ubuntu.blogspot.com/2010/04/getlibs.html
[14:39] <egoleo> thnx
[14:39] <This_Guy> I'm not sure which channel I should be in, but has anyone tried using FTPS with a web hosting company. I want to use Rsync for backup.
[14:39] <coz_> This_Guy,   if no one knows here right away ,.,, you could also try the ##linux channel
[14:41] <dwarder> does using ntfs under linux has performance issue?
[14:41] <jshanab_win7> I come from the Gentoo club but am using xubuntu on a server. In gentoo I can add an entry to /etc/env.d run env-update and source the profile and continue. What is the ubuntu equivilant. I put an entry in /etc/environment and started a new terminal and my entry was not added
[14:41] <dwarder> or other issues?
[14:41] <sinedio> dwarder: well, yeah, but nothing to worry too much about, I get around 20MB/s on my rig, enough to watch movies :)
[14:41] <myplaT> Hi! i need from help, meybe it simple but i don't know as made, i was make an firewall script and i moved to /etc/init.d/firewall, how can i make for execute this command? i tryed startup applications but don't work ;/
[14:41] <HinHin> hi there, just wondering if anyone knows the default ServerRoot path in the apache.conf
[14:42] <HinHin> i'm using Ubuntu server edition 10.04
[14:42] <jshanab_win7> dwarder. Iwould say yes. It has to map the file allocation tables into an imaginary inode structure and maintain it
[14:42] <myplaT> Hi! i need from help, maybe it simple but i don't know as made, i was make an firewall script and i moved to /etc/init.d/firewall, how can i make for execute this command? i try startup applications but don't work ;/
[14:42] <This_Guy> coz_, do you mean #linux under IRCNET? I'm new to this.
[14:43] <coz_> This_Guy,  no  ...on this server...where you type here to ask a question just type      /join ##linux
[14:43] <myplaT> Hi! i need from help, maybe it simple but i don't know as made, i was make an firewall script and i moved to /etc/init.d/firewall, how can i make for execute this command when i login in my ubuntu? i try startup applications but don't work ;/
[14:43] <HinHin> myplaT, spamming your comment won't help
[14:43] <NewGuy> does anyone know how to make the fan spin down when the laptop is cool?
[14:43] <myplaT> HinHin: sorry
[14:43] <HinHin> NewGuy, it's not doing it automatically?
[14:43] <NewGuy> no
[14:44] <NewGuy> 27c and still running full speed
[14:44] <HinHin> myplaT, usually i would suggest using runtimes
[14:44] <egoleo> hello
[14:44] <HinHin> but ubuntu changed to that upstart thing
[14:44] <HinHin> i forget what's it called
[14:44] <dwarder> sinedio: i plan to put my vbox disk on it
[14:44] <egoleo> how do i install libpq.so.4 on lucid
[14:45] <oCean> !bum | HinHin
[14:45] <egoleo> anyone to help me install libpq.so.4 on lucid plse
[14:45] <HinHin> ah yes bum
[14:45] <NewGuy> HinHin, any idea how to get it working properly?
[14:46] <jshanab_win7> So anyone know the answer to my environment variable question?
[14:46] <myplaT> HinHin: i think so exist some method to use this in /etc/init.d because my friend use this.. but i don't getting speak with him.
[14:46] <HinHin> thanks oCean for reminding me ;)
[14:46] <HinHin> and myplaT download bum
[14:46] <HinHin> sudo apt-get install bum
[14:46] <miguelwill> This_Guy prueba esto:  update-rd.d firewall defaults
[14:46] <dwarder> sinedio: what speed do you have from ext4 for comparison
[14:46] <sinedio> dwarder: umm, you'd be better off putting the vbox disks on your current partition. This is how I do it. I have XP in one vbox and build ubcd4win very often and it flies :)
[14:47] <myplaT> HinHin: bum? what's this?
[14:47] <jshanab_win7> egoleo it will get installed with the 8.0 version of the client, but it is stand alone and is interface compatible with the libpq.so.5 so I just create a symlink to the .5 for apps that ned the .4
[14:47] <HinHin> NewGuy, not sure sorry i've seen some things to config it
[14:47] <sinedio> dwarder: I never checked :) stuff loads very fast for me so I did not bother
[14:47] <HinHin> but i don't remember
[14:47] <egoleo> so how do i create this symlink
[14:47] <egoleo> and to which file
[14:48] <HinHin> !bum | myplaT
[14:48] <egoleo> plse how do i create this symlink and which file
[14:48] <gustavzf>  /server irc.efnet.net
[14:48] <miguelwill> !update-rd.d
[14:48] <jshanab_win7> egoleo. Please explain a bit more your situation and experiance so I can direct you better
[14:49] <AbhiJit> !irc | pankaj_sharma
[14:49] <egoleo> i am trying to install outcafe and is requiring libpq.so.4
[14:49] <myplaT> !postfix | myplaT
[14:49] <moetunes> !find libpq.so.4 | egoleo
[14:50] <egoleo> yes it does not exist on lucid
[14:50] <coz_> cool-aide,   didnt see the pm ...what is the complete error on that file when you try to delete it
[14:50] <gustavzf>  /server irc.efnet.net
[14:50] <moetunes> gustavzf:  no space before the /
[14:50] <Solved> I have just downloaded the game "Tremulous" (Not From Package Manager For Specific Reasons), and I do not know what to do with the downloaded package to get Tremulous up and running. My operating system is 10.04 LTS (32 bit)
[14:50] <pankaj_sharma> abhijit,ty
[14:51] <egoleo> hey thnx i did create a symlink to the libpq.so.5 to the 4
[14:51] <egoleo> so is working now
[14:51] <jshanab_win7> egoleo. keep in mind I am a gentooer but I would locate libpq-so.5 and then in that directory "ln -s ./libpq-so.5 libpg.so.4"
[14:51] <miguelwill> root@miguel-desktop:/etc/init.d# chmod +x TEST.sh
[14:51] <miguelwill> root@miguel-desktop:/etc/init.d# update-rc.d TEST.sh defaults
[14:51] <miguelwill> update-rc.d: warning: /etc/init.d/TEST.sh missing LSB information
[14:51] <miguelwill> update-rc.d: see <http://wiki.debian.org/LSBInitScripts>
[14:51] <miguelwill>  Adding system startup for /etc/init.d/TEST.sh ...
[14:51] <FloodBot3> miguelwill: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:51] <miguelwill>    /etc/rc0.d/K20TEST.sh -> ../init.d/TEST.sh
[14:52] <egoleo> oh great
[14:52] <egoleo> i am also a gentoo user
[14:52] <jshanab_win7> egoleo. One of the few times the rule about order of entries in a library was followed allowing them to be binary compatible. Kinda cool.
[14:52] <miguelwill> XD
[14:52] <egoleo> just setting a ubuntu box as cafe timer server
[14:52] <rek> hi,bluetooth doesn't work
[14:52] <moetunes> egoleo:  there are plenty of gentoo wikis on this
[14:53] <jshanab_win7> Well, I think I am gonna re-format the server to gentoo. Easier to work with for a server
[14:53] <sinedio> egoleo: what software do you use for that purpose ?
[14:53] <Solved> I have just downloaded the game "Tremulous" (Not From Package Manager For Specific Reasons), and I do not know what to do with the downloaded package to get Tremulous up and running. My operating system is 10.04 LTS (32 bit)
[14:54] <coz_> Solved,   give me link from where you downloaded it
[14:54] <egoleo> i was trying out outkafe
[14:54] <egoleo> i dont know if anyone is got a better option for a cafe timer that works on linux with windows clients
[14:54] <coz_> egoleo,  mm  is this a POS?
[14:55] <egoleo> cafe timer
[14:55] <egoleo> for internet cafes
[14:55] <Solved> coz_: http://sourceforge.net/projects/tremulous/files/tremulous/1.1/tremulous-1.1.0-installer.x86.run/download
[14:56] <coz_> Solved,  ok downloading hold on
[14:56] <Solved> coz_: thank you so much
[14:56] <coz_> egoleo,   I have use  openbravo  which is a POS  using java
[14:56] <alket> Does anyone knows how can I add my city in gnome-weather applet ? I am from Pristina, Kosovo ?
[14:56] <cool-aide> coz_: it says there was an error deleting unsaved document2. "error removing file: permission denied."
[14:56] <jshanab_win7> One last try. How the heck to I set an enviroment variable AND refresh them
[14:56] <sinedio> egoleo: looks neat
[14:56] <rusivi> coz_ I have heard of Open Bravo, how does it stack to MSFT CRM Great Plains, and other major players?
[14:57] <Izinucs> alket: typically you have to have a nationally recognized weather station there.
[14:57] <coz_> cool-aide,  ok open a terminal   cd to the Desktop if that is where the file is   then  sudo chown -R  yourname  nameoffile
[14:57] <egoleo> what looks neat
[14:57] <coz_> cool-aide,  then you should be able to delete it
[14:57] <oCean> jshanab_win7: refresh?
[14:57] <egoleo> it seems outkafe is for only linux
[14:57] <alket> Izinucs, do you know where weather applet gets information from ? from weather.com ?
[14:57] <egoleo> i want one for linux and client on windows
[14:57] <Izinucs> alket: not sure but I think so.
[14:58] <nikkita> hmm can anyone help :s
[14:58] <luben1> I can't configure an Ati Mobility Radeon HD 5145, anyone can give me a clue (no luck googling)?
[14:58] <nikkita> i got my 4 ubuntu disks today and i dont know which to install
[14:58] <alket> Izinucs, Pristina, Kosovo is in weather.com
[14:58] <coz_> rusivi,  well I have a few clients that use openbravo successfully...however it will NOT run with icedtea  it must have sun java
[14:58] <jshanab_win7> oCean. yeah, Set CXF_HOME and then get it into the environment, currently and persistant and new sessions
[14:58] <rusivi> nikkita: I would go for Lucid if you have that.
[14:58] <rusivi> nikkita Maverick if your feeling brave.
[14:59] <coz_> egoleo,  I am looking for other cafe timers
[14:59] <rusivi> coz_ i have run into that with online stock/option brokerage accounts
[14:59] <egoleo> oh ok
[14:59] <nikkita> rusivi i got 10.04 lts server edition.... 10.04 lts kubuntu and a purple case one with just ubuntu on it twice...
[14:59] <rusivi> coz_ i had to raise hell just to have compatibility with Oracle Java running through Ubuntu
[14:59] <egoleo> then when u get please let me know too
[14:59] <oCean> jshanab_win7: only the current shell and childs from the shell you set/changed the variable in will inherit the new value
[14:59] <coz_> rusivi,  understood... I have the openbravo free package here somewhere...if not to large I can add to dropbox  hold on
[15:00] <luben1> anyone has an Ati mobility radeon hd?
[15:00] <rusivi> nikkita: If your looking for server recommendations I will have to bow out gracefully as I'm still MSFT Server centric :(
[15:00] <nikkita> the 4th one is 10.04 desktop edition
[15:00] <Izinucs> alket: then it must get them from some place else.. not sure where..
[15:00] <nikkita> but i dont underdtand why i got it 2 times
[15:00] <oCean> jshanab_win7: you can set variables in .bashrc in your homedirectory, to make them persistent. Use "export VAR=value" to export to child shells
[15:01] <AbhiJit> !ibus | pankaj_sharma
[15:01] <rusivi> nikkita: I have liked each release since 9.04 all the way up to Maverick, each newer release is better then the previous one.
[15:01] <Solved> coz_: has it finished downloading yet?
[15:01] <nikkita> rusivi: i want it to play games and to talk to all my friends on socail networks
[15:01] <coz_> Solved,  not yet  :)
[15:01] <coz_> rusivi,    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/132551/openbravopos_2.20-1_i386.deb
[15:01] <rusivi> nikkita: I have a lot of formal training and time spent professionally in MSFT server enviornment.
[15:01] <nikkita> and i need it for game development
[15:01] <GothSpark> hi , I got a strange problem and I don't know the cause but it seams that I can't use any 3d aps now ,  after a reboot caused by a power faillure  I tryed to reboot , my Ubuntu 10.04 has rebooted but ... crashed it was logged in , those crashing are from yesterday when I tryed to compile witjout success the Gtk murine color  chooser. I whant to know the cause of it  and know a way to fix it . by the way I am booted onto the resccue session of gnome
[15:01] <nikkita> so im confused
[15:01] <Solved> thanks
[15:01] <rusivi> nikkita: You can do both via Ubuntu (games/social networking/social media)
[15:01] <coz_> rusivi,  download now so I can delete it   ...let me know when it is finished downloading
[15:01] <cool-aide> coz_: nothing happnd....i just typed wat u've instructed...and looking back on my desktop it's still there
[15:02] <rusivi> coz_ ty
[15:02] <rusivi> coz_ all set
[15:02] <egoleo> anyone knows any internet cafe timers
[15:02] <nikkita> rusivi: but will my 3 modem work?
[15:02] <nikkita> with ubuntu
[15:02] <nikkita> thats what im scared of
[15:02] <coz_> egoleo,  still looking but give me a few minutes... I have to see about this termulous game
[15:02] <rusivi> nikkita: Best way to find out is drop in the Live CD, do not do a native install yet, and test it!
[15:02] <nikkita> and what if i want to switch back to windows :( my laptop never came with disks
[15:02] <egoleo> oh ok
[15:02] <Izinucs> I installed mydms from the repos (document management). It's loaded and running but I'm looking for files in /var/www... nothing there but the default index.htm file.. where do I find the install location?
[15:02] <egoleo> thnx
[15:03] <coz_> Solved,  ok you downloaded the  .run package  ...yes?
[15:03] <oCean> Solved: usually a .run can be installed by making it executable (chmod +x filename.run) and run it: ./filename.run
[15:03] <rusivi> nikkita: If you just Live CD for testing, you do not touch your Windows partitions in any way.
[15:03] <Solved> coz_: i believe so
[15:03] <nikkita> but ive got 4 disks omg im confused :(
[15:03] <coz_> Solved,   as oCean  mentione  you can right click that package  go to Properties  and the Permissions tab  and tick the Execute box
[15:03] <Solved> ok
[15:04] <nikkita> also can i have windows and ubuntu installed
[15:04] <nikkita> so i can switch between both
[15:04] <Solved> coz_: i will try this
[15:04] <coz_> Solved,   then open a terminal   cd  to where that package is  and type   ./tremu  and hit the tab key to complete the name   then just hit enter
[15:04] <GothSpark> nikita : you can dual boot :)
[15:05] <nikkita> also i dont want to lose my 2tb of pictures and movies xD
[15:05] <rusivi> nikkita: You could, via Wubi, but imho alone, dual-booting is like the dinosaurs, it's ancient and in the past. Virtualize and make your life easier.
[15:05] <andycc> hey guys
[15:05] <oCean> Solved: still, remember that software not installed from the official repositories are unsupported third-party packages, and should be used at your own risk
[15:05] <GothSpark> rusivi , wubi is more unstable ...
[15:05] <nikkita> so rusivi kubuntu or ubuntu?
[15:05] <Solved> coz_: i dont get exactly what you mean. I am fairly new to ubuntu. it is located in home sliver Downloads
[15:06] <andycc> small problem here: I'm using xfce and I have a free space meter set to my /home partition, and I can see that the space in /home is dropping really fast
[15:06] <coz_> egoleo,   have you looked at this ?    http://www.mycafecup.com/
[15:06] <rusivi> nikkita: Kubuntu/Ubuntu is a personal choice, I use GNOME = Ubuntu but install many KDE programs b/c I like them better (Kolour = general paint, Korganizer = calendar, Amarok = iTunes equivalent)
[15:06] <andycc> it went from about 182GB to 180 in a few minutes
[15:06] <egoleo> no checking it up
[15:06] <nikkita> but i dont understand whats the diffrence
[15:07] <rusivi> GothSpark: I'm not really commenting on how stable it is, more that I have found personal ease of use and success virtualizing vs. dual-booting.
[15:07] <jshanab_win7> oCean. I want it to be a system wide environment variable. Do I jsut put it in /etc/bash.bashrc? what is the point of/etc/environment if it is never used?
[15:07] <Solved> coz_: and it is called tremulous-1.1.0-installer.x86(2).run. I downloaded it twice, and this one has an image  of a sheet of paper with a bunch of 1 and 0 with a big x white x in the top right hand corner
[15:07] <coz_> egoleo,   you may have to go to sourceforge  and search for POS  or internet cafe  or cafe timer
[15:07] <egoleo> oh ok
[15:07] <egoleo> but this one looks cool too
[15:07] <egoleo> thanks alot
[15:07] <coz_> Solved,   can you screenshot that please and upload to picpaste.com
[15:07] <Solved> coz_: *big white x
[15:08] <rusivi> GothSpark: This is the question that gets to the heart of the issue, is VMWare's success due to selling dual-booting products or virtualization products?
[15:08] <egoleo> coz_ it seems is for sale?
[15:09] <GothSpark> rusivi , a vm has not the same capability as a dualbootinh
[15:09] <coz_> egoleo,  oooo sorry
[15:09] <egoleo> i want freee :D
[15:09] <coz_> egoleo,   go to sourceforge  and search there.... there are many but not all free
[15:09] <oCean> jshanab_win7: indeed, /etc/bash.bashrc is the way to go. The /etc/environment file seems to hold path definitions, not sure why it is not used for environment variables
[15:09] <coz_> egoleo,  openbravo is free
[15:09] <rusivi> GothSpark That is true and the performance gap between a native install and virtualized is quickly closing.
[15:09] <rusivi> GothSpark many of the issues I had Virtualizing with VirtualBox just 1 year ago are no longer issues (gaming performance, live video streaming, video conferencing)
[15:10] <nikkita> brb
[15:10] <coz_> egoleo,  try this    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/132551/openbravopos_2.20-1_i386.deb
[15:10] <rusivi> GothSpark: It is also hardware/eq dependent.
[15:10] <oCean> jshanab_win7: when changing the bashrc file, re-source the file to read-in the settings into your current shell (like 'source ~/.bashrc' to re-read your own bashrc file)
[15:10] <coz_> egoleo,  you must have sun java installed for that to work
[15:10] <Braber01> um is it possible to change the color and size of the font of my login shell?
[15:11] <jaya> hello
[15:11] <GothSpark> well i'm not here to debate about virtualision  , I got a problam and needs tosolve it :) so   shall we stay on topic  ?
[15:11] <jshanab_win7> oCean. I see the JAVA_HOME in there and it matches, I just cannot find when it reads it. I think the gentoo system for environment veribles is the way to go.  Right on source /etc/bas...
[15:11] <rusivi> GothSpark: Please, continue.
[15:11] <egoleo> but is not a timer
[15:11] <egoleo> and it seems too huge
[15:11] <egoleo> java apps
[15:11] <egoleo> no
[15:11] <FloodBot3> egoleo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:11] <egoleo> for me
[15:12] <bradyxc> I'm having trouble mounting a hhd, I'm running lucid...
[15:12] <GothSpark> ? I got a gnome problem , and I don't know where it is since I had power faillure while updating ....
[15:13] <coz_> GothSpark,   an try  sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a
[15:13] <rusivi> bradyxc: Has this HDD been mounted in Lucid before?
[15:13] <gaza> hi  everybody can any one help me reinstalling grub2 after windows 7 installation
[15:14] <bradyxc> rusivi yes when I try to mount it says that it is not found in fstab or mtab
[15:14] <BluesKaj> !grub |  gaza
[15:15] <prn> archlinux
[15:15] <Izinucs> When storing a document in a DMS driven by php & mysql .. does it actually have a "save" location for the document or does it encode on the fly to something like xml.. ?
[15:15] <hhlp> !grub2 | gaza
[15:15] <coz_> gaza,   go to the #grub channel and in the topic is a link for reinstalling...just read it carefully before attempting it :)
[15:15] <andycc> hey guys, I have a problem with Xubuntu: I have a free space meter applet set to the /home partition and the free space dropped from 182gb to 179gb in about 10 minutes... I only have pidgin running, so what's wrong?
[15:15] <coz_> cool-aide,   you say that didnt work?
[15:15] <Edward_Elric> gaza, http://ubuntuguide.net/how-to-restore-grub-2-after-reinstalling-windows-xpvistawin7
[15:16] <coz_> gaza,   this is the link from #grub    http://grub.enbug.org/Grub2LiveCdInstallGuide
[15:17] <rusivi> bradyxc: Who is the HDD mfg, model, & serial #?
[15:17] <jshanab_win7>  uhh, everyone the "proper" way to set the persistant env variables and refresh in the curernt env looks like adding entries in the /etc/profile.d direcotry and then just sourcing /etc/profile
[15:17] <gaza> Edward_Elric , coz_ , i have  tried the ways but my ubuntu partition comes as unallocated
[15:18] <gaza> any ideas?//
[15:18] <bradyxc> rusivi I don't know, I have the hhd for a few years
[15:18] <coz_> gaza,   not off hand ..but  go to #grub channel  I amsure they can help
[15:18] <rusivi> bradyxc: look on the bottom on the sticker as it will be helpful
[15:18] <coz_> gaza,  I am not completely fluent with grub2
[15:18] <gaza> coz_, thanx
[15:19] <gaza> # grub
[15:19] <gaza> how do i join  that group?
[15:19] <rusivi> bradyxc Many HDD come pre-formatted with NTFS so you may need an NTFS interfacing package if it did not already come with Lucid.
[15:19] <coz_> gaza,  where you type a message here  type    /join #grub
[15:19] <gaza> thanx
[15:20] <rusivi> bradyxc: Both one I got a week ago and one I got a few years ago were both NTFS out of the box
[15:20] <xukun> every time I restart my system I have to do dpkg-reconfigure lirc after I choose the wright remote everything works. Is there a way to make this permanent?
[15:20] <bradyxc> rusivi well this one is NTFS I have windows xp installed on it
[15:21] <rokr1> hey guys i have problem in using lirc with NSC6001
[15:21] <rokr1> fast infrared
[15:22] <GothSpark> amm, should reinstall ... it fail to start dpkg ....
[15:22] <coz_> be back in a bit
[15:23] <rusivi> bradyxc: ahhhhhh so your in the Live CD environment, poking around at your Windows XP partition(s)?
[15:23] <rokr1> see this
[15:23] <rokr1> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/e9eWp2md
[15:23] <coz_> Solved,  you still here?
[15:23] <bradyxc> rusivi no I discovered linux after having filled most of my hhd so it was just easier to install linux on another hhd that I had
[15:24] <BluesKaj> coz_ if gaza's ubuntu partition is unallocated doesn't he need to activate it , or is that normal condition after installing windows?
[15:24] <Solved> coz_: yes I am, im having trouble uploading the picture though
[15:24] <rusivi> bradyxc: one of many NTFS related packages I have installed (in Maverick) is ntfs-3g
[15:24] <coz_> Blue1,  well it should be activated
[15:24] <gaza> coz . noone seems to  be there
[15:25] <coz_> Solved,  i believe after you cd  Desktop...if that is where the game .run is...type   sudo ./trem    hit tab
[15:25] <Solved> coz_: wait i did it :     http://i54.tinypic.com/2z3w87m.jpg
[15:25] <bradyxc> rusivi I have that as well...
[15:25] <coz_> Solved,   ok  open a terminal  cd Downloads
[15:26] <gaza> Blueskaj, r u trying to say that i need to mount  that partition?
[15:26] <coz_> Solved,   make sure that package is executable by right clicking it  go to Permissions and tick the execute box
[15:26] <coz_> Solved,   then in the terminal type  sudo ./tremu    hit tab to complete name and hit enter
[15:26] <coz_> Solved,  that should do it... I am trying it here
[15:26] <lars_> oilà
[15:27] <ubuntu> hi, I desperately need help.. I am currently running a live cd and where my linux ext4 partitions used to be, gparted now only detects unallocated hard drive space
[15:27] <rusivi> bradyxc: This is going to sound silly but did a restart change anything?
[15:27] <BluesKaj> gaza, dunno for sure , it just might be unallocated because windows did so during the install
[15:27] <ubuntu> is there a recovery tool which would find my partitions for me again?
[15:27] <bradyxc> rusivi not that I know of
[15:27] <gaza> ubuntu, same problem here may be we can work together
[15:27] <erUSUL> ubuntu: testdisk or gpart
[15:27] <rusivi> bradyxc: ok so you restarted, and still same problem?
[15:28] <erUSUL> http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Step_By_Step
[15:28] <erUSUL> !info testdisk
[15:28] <bradyxc> rusivi well I've been running linux for a few months...
[15:28] <ubuntu> erUSUL: gpart or gparted? or is it the same
[15:28] <gaza> bluesKaj , i tried mounting  it and cant see any changes in places
[15:28] <erUSUL> ubuntu: not the same. gpart is a cli tool
[15:28] <rokr1> is someone here who uses lirc
[15:28] <ubuntu> erUSUL: k
[15:28] <rusivi> bradyxc: duly noted but I need answer to my question please :)
[15:28] <erUSUL> ubuntu: testdisk is easier to use afaics
[15:28] <ubuntu> thanks:)
[15:29] <bradyxc> rusivi no nothing has changed
[15:29] <ubuntu> erUSUL: yeah, I have used testdisk before, mainly to overwrite mbrs though
[15:29] <YiamiYo> hi
[15:29] <YiamiYo> i hava some problems with my ethernet card
[15:29] <YiamiYo> have*
[15:29] <JKL__> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM/Networking#bridgednetworking here is line "iface eth0 inet manual". why its set to manual?
[15:29] <YiamiYo> it was working fine yesterday
[15:29] <coz_> Solved,   did you get that going?
[15:30] <cool-aide> can anyone help me? i just accidentally deleted my panel....now i add new one same as before but when i open firefox and minimized it i can't see the firefox icon on the panel below as what i have previously before i accidentally deleted my panel just now....anyone? pls? thanx
[15:30] <manfredrasta> hi
[15:30] <manfredrasta> how do I go to #lubuntu?
[15:30] <coz_> manfredrasta,  where you type a message here   type   /join #lubuntu
[15:31] <manfredrasta> coz_, thanx
[15:31] <coz_> no problem
[15:31] <YiamiYo> is there anything i can do to check if my ethernet card is ok?
[15:31] <coz_> Solved,  still here?
[15:32] <rokr1> is someone here who uses lirc??
[15:33] <xukun> its seems that there are two lirc modules are loaden. I need to disable the I don't use. How can I disable lirc_imon module?
[15:33] <rusivi> bradyxc: ty. I would take a look at the history of how Lucid has been updating and see if you notice any of your NTFS or related packages been updated recently. As well, same with software you installed. Looking for correlation to date/time closest to when you first noticed this issue, then look for causation. I do not keep up on every update so I can only suggest the obvious (ntfs-related, fstab auto-accessing-type packages).
[15:33] <bradyxc> rusivi ok ty
[15:34] <coz_> Solved,   i will be back in a bit  ...let me know if you got that installed
[15:34] <Spofer> [ubuntu newbie] I'm getting "dpkg: error processing man-db (--configure):" on every installation i do
[15:34] <daniela78> *meow* is someone successfully runnin AC97_ALC650F sound (nforce2) on 10.04? I can't hear anything... :/
[15:35] <cool-aide> can anyone help me? i just accidentally deleted my panel....now i add new one same as before but when i open firefox and minimized it i can't see the firefox icon on the panel below as what i have previously before i accidentally deleted my panel just now....anyone? pls? thanx
[15:35] <xukun> anyone please
[15:35] <yunsangho> what kind of packet capture program are there in ubuntu?
[15:35] <CT1> Hi. How can I find out which hard disk is using which irq?
[15:35] <rokr1> xukun blacklist the the driver in /etc/modprobe.d
[15:35] <rokr1> or edit /etc/lirc/hardware.conf file
[15:35] <rokr1> i am having problem with this national semiconductor NSC6001 chip
[15:35] <Friar> how can I join a different server on  xchat?
[15:36] <hylian> i have a strange error, and im not even certain how to categorize it. When i run my mouse cursor to the right or bottom of the screen, the whole screen "pans" into blackness. i usually google first, but i dont really know what to google here..??
[15:36] <YiamiYo> does anyone know how i can test my eth card for problems?
[15:36] <rusivi> cool-aide: yunsangho Wireshark & Cacti are two familiar ones.
[15:36] <xukun> rokr1, I will do that thanks
[15:36] <Spofer> How can i fix this?
[15:36] <yunsangho> rusivi, Thanks
[15:36] <rokr1> yungsangho :wireshark, ettercap, tcpdump
[15:36] <cristina> ciao|
[15:36] <daniela78> alsa-project db output: http://bit.ly/cdjAwi
[15:37] <ZykoticK9> !panels | cool-aide
[15:37] <yunsangho> rokr1, Thanks
[15:37] <cristina> list|
[15:37] <rokr1> go with tcpdump if your are pro or go with wireshark
[15:37] <rokr1> for nice GUI
[15:37] <kaddii> erUSUL: and when testdisk doesn't detect anything that means I am superscrewed, right? I need to find ext4 partitions.. the page talks about ext2. Does testdisk do ext4?
[15:37] <twanvdp> Can anyone tell me which user whould own the /var/mail directory ?
[15:37] <cristina> list!
[15:38] <rusivi> rokr1: I know pro's who use workshark :D
[15:38] <ZykoticK9> cristina, !list does NOT work here
[15:38] <Izinucs> anyone on that's somewhat versed in php & mysql usage.. not programming .. but how to determine where data is stored? I've installed MyDMS and uploaded one doc to it.. now I'm trying to figure out where it goes.
[15:38] <twanvdp> I keep getting error : Oct  2 16:36:49 apollo imapd: t.vanderpoel: Account's mailbox directory is not owned by the correct uid or gid
[15:38] <erUSUL> kaddii: it should but i am not sure
[15:38] <rokr1> nice one rusivi
[15:38] <rokr1> i like ya
[15:38] <rusivi> rokr1: workshark = wireshark
[15:38] <rokr1> may be that was a tpyo
[15:39] <kaddii> i hate my life right now >.< Just found out my backups are no good either.
[15:39] <rokr1> XD
[15:39] <rusivi> rokr1 hehe
[15:39] <rokr1> read it correctly rusivi
[15:40] <rokr1> W I R E S H A R K
[15:40] <hylian> my desktop pand to the right and also down into blackness...
[15:40] <rokr1> or watch JAWS
[15:40] <YiamiYo> guys...is there anything i can do to test my eth card?
[15:40] <phil_in_london> Izinucs, it depends on the application, some will store a link to the file's location on your system, some of them will use a binary blob field to store the document directly in the database itself.
[15:40] <twanvdp> Can anyone help me out with this -seems- simple problem? I cant get courier/mail to work because of error: Account's mailbox directory is not owned by the correct uid or gid . I created my maildir with maildirmake and let it be owned by apache user, my user account mail account but it keeps resulting in this error, Any suggestions would be very welcome
[15:41] <Friar> I'm having problems with my xchat and trying to join a different server...any help?\
[15:41] <phil_in_london> Izinucs, you might want to download MySQL Query browser so you can have a peek through the mysql data to see whats going on.
[15:41] <AbhiJit> Friar, what happen/
[15:41] <YiamiYo> Friar, did you try ctrl+t
[15:41] <Izinucs> phil_in_london: thanks. is MySQL Query in the repos?
[15:41] <gaza> hi people i m on my live session now how will i determine where is my boot partition
[15:41] <Nikyo> I'm try to start synaptic from gnome terminal but it does not start. Do I need to put in something else than synaptic in the terminal ? I know where it is via the menu.. Please.
[15:41] <AbhiJit> gaza, you can cross check from gparted
[15:41] <rokr1> Yiamiyo if you are using the same computer to chat modem connected to the ethernet card then its working XD
[15:42] <rusivi> YiamiYo Testing in the Live CD environment is the best way to go, ping 127.0.0.1 (testing hardware ok).
[15:42] <hylian> i figured it out, so no worries :)
[15:42] <YiamiYo> well
[15:42] <Friar> AbhiJit, YiamiYo, I clicked on a link that was working with 10.04 and now that I've updated to 10.10 I get an error when I click on it...
[15:42] <YiamiYo> i'm connected to my router wireless right now
[15:42] <rokr1> okie
[15:42] <AbhiJit> Friar, ask in #ubuntu+1
[15:42] <YiamiYo> and i have another pc connected via eth
[15:42] <Izinucs> phil_in_london: nvm.. found it with apt-cache
[15:43] <YiamiYo> but my pc does not like the eth cable now :/
[15:43] <gaza> Abhijit , it suggests me   sda1 100mb and i am trying to reinstall grub  but cant mount my ubuntu partition its unallocated
[15:43] <rokr1> look for syslog yiamiyo
[15:43] <phil_in_london> Izinucs, you'll may need to know the username/password for the database, but as I say, thats going to be an application specific issue, you'll need to investigate documentation on your application to learn more.
[15:43] <rokr1> cat /var/log/syslog
[15:44] <AbhiJit> gaza, any error?
[15:44] <melrockz> Nikyo: try: gksu /usr/sbin/synaptic
[15:44] <rokr1> lol i came here for help
[15:44] <rokr1> and helping
[15:44] <rokr1> UBUNTU rocks
[15:44] <twanvdp> :)
[15:45] <melrockz> :)
[15:45] <skumara> :)
[15:45] <Izinucs> phil_in_london: yea.. docs are pretty slim.. conf files haven't revealed anything yet.. I testing this DMS and then may impliment on a server/nas type setup but I'd like the data to live outside of /
[15:45] <zanus> can someone tell me why I can't remove this font? http://pastebin.com/Kjsc0yuC
[15:45] <gaza> Abhijit , if i try mounting sda1 it says according to mtab sda 1 is already mounted
[15:45] <dwarder> does ubuntu has gparted on when booted as live cd?
[15:45] <lnsk> hi,i had setup a djbdns resolver in my machine. how can i add some static entries to the dnscache ?
[15:45] <Nikyo> @melrockz will synaptic only open from a "root" terminal and not from a terminal as a user?
[15:45] <Izinucs> dwarder: parted for sure.. gparted maybe
[15:45] <skumara> dwarder, yes
[15:46] <AbhiJit> gaza, so what is problem is it is already mounted? go ahead with it/
[15:46] <frank__> dwarder: iirc yes, if not, just install it
[15:46] <AbhiJit> dwarder, yes
[15:46] <twanvdp> Can anyone help me out with this -seems- simple problem? I cant get courier/mail to work because of error: Account's mailbox directory is not owned by the correct uid or gid . I created my maildir with maildirmake and let it be owned by apache user, my user account mail account but it keeps resulting in this error, DEBUG=1 option didnt result in addional information. Any suggestions would be very welcome.
[15:46] <melrockz> Nikyo: Yes. It's used to install software packages, so it requires root privileges
[15:47] <amanita_> Hi, anyone using Energy XT music software here?
[15:47] <rokr1> try trinity live distribution for the guy who needs to get data back
[15:47] <rusivi> amanita_ No, I use Amarok or WINE iTunes.
[15:47] <melrockz> dwarder: It has gparted. (also parted, if u prefer command line.)
[15:47] <phil_in_london> Izunics, the data will live outside of /, the only question is if its binary encoded in the db, or a pointer to a file location.
[15:47] <rokr1> best data recovery software is TESTDISK!!
[15:47] <phil_in_london> Izunics, from the scant information I see, I'd say its binary encoded.
[15:48] <gaza> Abhijit ,  what is next?
[15:48] <amanita_> rusivi, Energy XT is a music studio app
[15:48] <AbhiJit> gaza, i dunno! read the guide
[15:48] <AbhiJit> !fixgrub | gaza
[15:48] <rusivi> amanita_ I would use protools/QBasis
[15:48] <rusivi> amanita_ but that's getting cute
[15:48] <amanita_> rusivi, What are you talking about? I use python and gtk
[15:48] <rokr1> thats y i use N900 gaza
[15:49] <gaza> Abhijit, i did bro... no one works
[15:49] <rusivi> amanita_ Many professional studio houses use ProTools or Q-Basis. Just mentioning no big deal.
[15:49] <amanita_> rusivi, do you mean Cubase?
[15:49] <Nikyo> @melrockz thanks, I was trying to put synaptic command into wbar. wbar is like docky put for window managers like blackbox. When I click on the link on wbar "taskbar" synaptic does not open. Which makes sense now if it does not open as a user in a regular terminal and needs "root" permissions..
[15:49] <gaza> ubottu ,  mine is grub2
[15:49] <melrockz> Is there a music synth software like FruityLoops for ubuntu?
[15:50] <rusivi> aminta_ So your familiar cool do you like either?
[15:50] <AbhiJit> melrockz, rhythmbox?
[15:50] <amanita_> rusivi, I know them well and FL-studio, Native Instruments software and stuff, but I ask about Energy XT for linux which is a Fruity-loops like studio app
[15:50] <ZykoticK9> AbhiJit, Rhythmbox is nothing like FruityLoops at all - music player vs music creator
[15:50] <amanita_> I have some sound problems, and need a solution, the sound is choppy and crackling
[15:50] <phil_in_london> audacity looks like a killer audio app, I haven't had the time to get jack setup to try most of its features, but thats the only thing I haven't ported over to linux yet.
[15:51] <rusivi> amanita_ I tried Hydrogen briefly for drum beats, and dusting out the memory banks another one for general synthing one sec...
[15:51] <rokr1> phil i though vlc was the killer app
[15:51] <melrockz> Thanks, but I meant music synthesizer. Which U make music with, u don't need any instruments.
[15:51] <AbhiJit> ZykoticK9, ok
[15:51] <phil_in_london> vlc is for playing video or music, not creating your own music.
[15:51] <AbhiJit> melrockz, yes there are moose
[15:52] <twanvdp> Can anyone help me out with simple courier/imap question ?
[15:52] <AbhiJit> melrockz, go to software center and search with term 'music'
[15:52] <AbhiJit> melrockz, e.g.linux mutlimeida studio,gnu denemo are great
[15:52] <twanvdp> apt-cache search music
[15:52] <phil_in_london> ardour looks like a good studio app.
[15:52] <mark-a> is /etc/tomcat6 the default directory for tomcat in ubuntu? if so then where are the startup / shutdown scripts?
[15:52] <Izinucs> phil_in_london: you sure about audacity?  it's a good app but if you're going to go through the trouble of installing and configuring jack then perhapsw Ardour (I think it's called)..
[15:52] <Wakko10Warner> Protest the MPAA and DMCA goto http://leetbaka.com/tpb/ ;; please spread the word. The war is on.
[15:53] <DeaCon> rosegarden is music sequ.
[15:53] <ZykoticK9> !ot | Wakko10Warner
[15:53] <Nikyo> @melrockz I play synths. Audacity is pretty good but not like fruity loops, per se. More like a recorder / editor.
[15:53] <phil_in_london> yeah, ardour would be your daw/tracks app, but I like the mangling you can do with pure audio in audacity.
[15:53] <rusivi> amanita_ I've cut out a track via Audacity, still looking for which synth'ing program I used..
[15:53] <melrockz> I happened to see: energyXT 2.5.4. Is this a good music synthesizer?
[15:53] <tacomaster> i was wondering is there a way to add the widgits like in kde for gnome if so what is the package?
[15:53] <twanvdp> melrockz you should take a look at mixcraft
[15:53] <twanvdp> perhaps you can run it in wine or somehting
[15:53] <twanvdp> very smooth app
[15:53] <kaddi> erUSUL: can i send you the log and you tell me what it means?
[15:53] <Izinucs> tacomaster: plasmoids are nice
[15:54] <iircajfoun> ole
[15:54] <melrockz> Nikyo: Audacity is a gud audio editor...
[15:54] <c3l> melrockz: yeah, for example LMMS (Linux MultiMedia Studio), ardour. and then loads of smaller more feature specific tools. the unix philosophy is to make a program that does one thing, and does it great. instead of all featurs, but none on the top level. so you might want one tool for your synths, and another for the drum machine (like hydrogen). and the get all the pieces togeather in lmms or ardour. or do everything in ...
[15:54] <c3l> ... one of them. note that I know very little about this, so there is probably other/better tools out there, you just have to find them, gl :)
[15:54] <phil_in_london> as far as synths go, you can use any vst(i) compatible software that you had with windows and just wrap it to work in linux.
[15:55] <rusivi> amanita_ Linux MultiMedia Studio was for snyth'ing
[15:55] <c3l> melrockz: stay away from emulating stuff in wine, if you want to run linux, run the native apps..
[15:55] <kaddi> testdisk says the following: http://pastebin.com/CjAXkaG0 I'm pretty sure that is excatly the partition i need to recover :(
[15:55] <kaddi> @ erUSUL
[15:55] <rusivi> amanita_ sorry for delay took me a while to remember that (used it briefly a couple years ago)
[15:55] <rusivi> amanita_ you can youtube people who made entire tracks in LMS
[15:56] <amanita_> rusivi, cool, altough I have choppy sound problems with the application Energy XT, under Ubuntu 10.04, thanks anyway
[15:56] <Nikyo> @melrockz I have not found any "soft synths" for my USB midi controller using Linux yet. I found "Rosegarden" which is a midi muti-track recorder, but it involves "Jack" as part as the interface, and  could not get everything to work right with my equpment.
[15:56] <twanvdp> Can anyone help me out with a courier / imap question ?
[15:56] <melrockz> c3l: Thanks, I'm also better off without Wine. :)
[15:56] <kaddi> gaza: have you been able to make anzy progress?
[15:56] <phil_in_london> nikyo, got any vsti soft synths from windows? you can use them in linux.
[15:56] <DeaCon> LMMS  http://lmms.sourceforge.net/
[15:56] <Izinucs> twanvdp: ask the question first
[15:57] <phil_in_london> nikyo, as long as its just the instrument and no application along with it.
[15:57] <AbhiJit> twanvdp, some one could probably if you asked the actual question
[15:57] <rusivi> DeaCon ty it is awesome and downloadable via Ubuntu Software Center
[15:57] <rusivi> DeaCon I was floored at all the default sounds available
[15:57] <gaza> kaddi , working with rockr1 i will update
[15:58] <Nikyo> @phil_in_london Hi.. I got a lot of vst files that I use in a "old" version of calkwalk sonar that I have collected around the'net..
[15:58] <melrockz> checking out LMMS...
[15:58] <twanvdp> Izinucs I keep getting this error : Account's mailbox directory is not owned by the correct uid or gid .. I tries several ownerships but it didnt work, option DEBUG=1 didt supplied additional information, any suggestions would be very welcome
[15:58] <phil_in_london> nikyo, they'll work.
[15:59] <vincentk> I have a question - have a stuck update, been hung for about an hour on setting up lirc (0.8.6-0ubuntu4.2) on 10.4 AMD 64bit  Not sure what to do.
[15:59] <phil_in_london> nikyo, I'm having the same problems with jack as you, not fully setup yet, it wants me to upgrade my hardware to make full use of it.
[15:59] <Nikyo> @phil_in_london In what program? I don't how they can work in Audacity i nLinux.. unless there is something that I am not seeing right?
[16:00] <Izinucs> twanvdp: do a ls -la on the directory and it will tell you what the owner and group settings are for the fiels
[16:00] <Izinucs> *files
[16:00] <phil_in_london> nikyo, its not going to be audacity it will need to be a full daw application, play around with Ardour2
[16:00] <twanvdp> well, currently i thought mail:mail should be correct, which result in : drwx------  5 mail   mail      4096 2010-10-02 16:57 t.vanderpoel
[16:00] <sepehr> GEdit fails to load new plugins, no matter I put the plugin files in ~/.gnome2/gedit/plugins or /usr/lib/gedit-2/plugins
[16:01] <melrockz> Any way to get Lucid working with Intel 845 video card? Upgrade's due, no finances...:-(
[16:01] <BluesKaj> vincentk, open another terminal : sudo dpkg --clear-avail
[16:01] <Nikyo> @phil_in_london Ardour2.. hmm.. I remember that program from way back.. I'll check it out Thank You. Enjoy the day / night.
[16:01] <Izinucs> twanvdp: might have to be root:mail
[16:01]  * twanvdp checks
[16:02] <phil_in_london> nikyo, http://www.breakfastquay.com/dssi-vst/
[16:02] <YiamiYo> still nothing...it was working just fine before...then i did an update and in that update was the 2.6.32-25-generic kernel...when update finished i rebooted my pc and got the error for graphic card so i run in failsafe-x to download the latest nvidia drivers(i had internet via eth)...then i gone to tty1 and closed the services gdm and failsafe-x as i do every time to install the nvidia drivers...then did sudo reboot and boom...rebooted fine but got no in
[16:02] <YiamiYo> ternet...neither at ubuntu nor at windows..
[16:03] <Izinucs> YiamiYo: if both are not working then I'd suspect a bad card
[16:04] <twanvdp> Izinucs It keeps resulting into the same error, could a desperit chmod -R a+w /var/mail have result in problems? Is it possible that i have to set a mailuser in the courier configuration ?
[16:04] <YiamiYo> again...it was working just fine before i update + reinstall the nvidia drivers...did nothing more..
[16:04] <vincentk> BluesKaj response is dpkg: status database area is locked by another process
[16:04] <Eighteens> question for anyone, When i booted my new ubuntu 10.04 system from the live cd, installed everything SOUNDED great, the sound was flawless, now after doing some updates, my sound (sounds GARBLED bad)
[16:05] <kaddi> I need help with recoverying my ext4 partitions, testdisk will not do it because it says that the end of one partition lies outside the hard drive size
[16:05] <BluesKaj> vincentk, ok try , sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[16:06] <kaddi> the testdisk log is here: http://pastebin.com/e4QQtLDM
[16:07] <Izinucs> twanvdp: maybe .. I typically use numbers.. not use to the alpha characters for chmod outside of "x".. looks like my /var/mail directory is root:mail with permissions of d rwx rws r-x .. which translates to 7?5 .. the second set of three has an "s" which I'm not familure with.. never seen it.
[16:07] <vincentk> Blues
[16:07] <kaddi> What is now called "extended" used to be my ext4 partitions.
[16:07] <vincentk> it is offering to kill the process...yes I guess?
[16:07] <jonkri> how come when i do "sudo chown -R jon:jon /home/jon" i get "chown: cannot access `/home/jon/.gvfs': Permission denied"?
[16:08] <Coronade> hi
[16:08] <BluesKaj> vincentk, yes
[16:08] <Coronade> i installed unbuntu 10.x on my craptop
[16:08] <Coronade> and the default resolution won't work
[16:08] <aeon-ltd> !enter | Coronade
[16:08] <jonkri> .gvfs is "dr-x------ 2 jon jon 0 2010-10-02 14:10 .gvfs"
[16:08] <aeon-ltd> !details | Coronade
[16:09] <aeon-ltd> Coronade: install drivers for your graphics card
[16:09] <ZykoticK9> Coronade, just FYI but there are two versions of Ubuntu that start with 10 --- Lucid 10.04 and Maverick 10.10
[16:09] <Coronade> I have a problem with the display resolution when logging in.  I'm running Ubuntu version 10.x
[16:09] <Coronade> mm probably Lucid
[16:09] <ZykoticK9> Coronade, "lsb_release -a" in a terminal will tell you for sure
[16:09] <Coronade> how do I get to a terminal?  I can't log in.
[16:09] <vincentk> BluesKaj, OK, looks like post processing in the terminal I opened and update manager went to a read meatball Update is complete...not all changes have been applied.  I had a lot of packages updating.  Should I re-run the update manager and un select the problem packag?
[16:09] <ZykoticK9> Coronade, ops sorry
[16:10] <aeon-ltd> Coronade: ctrl-alt-f2
[16:10] <Coronade> ok i'll try that, brb
[16:10] <ahox___> Hi, is it possible to have gnome run in kiosk mode with some apps whitelisted?
[16:10] <BluesKaj> vincentk, now open synaptic /edit/fix broken packages/ and if needed click apply ...this is a reduntant step but just want to make sure
[16:10] <ahox___> Especially I do not want people change background images, create mail accounts, etc
[16:11] <melrockz> Izinucs: please list the whole output. Is it like this? drwxrwsr-x  2 root mail 4096 2009-04-20 19:29
[16:11] <BluesKaj> vincentk, what is the app/package you're trying to install ?
[16:12] <vincentk> BluesKaj - Being prompted for a restart before I run synaptic.  Should I restat first or synaptic edit / fix broken packages first?
[16:12] <aeon-ltd> ahox___: i suppose you could 'chmod -x' them to prevent them from running
[16:12] <twanvdp> Izinucs Unfor. still not working, thanks for your help though
[16:12] <Izinucs> melrockz: I did but I just seperated the octects.. just pretend the spaces aren't there.
[16:12] <Coronade> hi i'm back
[16:12] <vincentk> BluesKaj - it hung on updating LIRC
[16:12] <Coronade> the screen messes up when I ctrl+alt+F2
[16:12] <Izinucs> twanvdp: good luck
[16:12] <BluesKaj> vincentk, yes fix the broken pkges first
[16:13] <ahox___> aeon-ltd: well, I just wan the kiosk mode for the guest user, not for everyone
[16:13] <Coronade> i suppose i could try to do it blind, if i knew what was happening.
[16:13] <vincentk> BluesKaj, Thanks - trying now
[16:13] <melrockz> Izinucs: u had a uid gid problem, right? the whole o/p is then needed.
[16:14] <Dalton> ubuntu/member/idleone and *!*@gateway/web/*$#ubuntu-proxy-users
[16:14] <aeon-ltd> ahox___: what do you want the guest user to run?
[16:14] <melrockz> Izinucs: (i'm still trying to figure out the rw's' problem)
[16:14] <Gigacore> hello guys.. I got an error stating "Can't authenticate some packages" while trying to upgrade to MM RC.. what to do now? There's no one on #ubuntu+1 at the moment who can answer my Q
[16:14] <Izinucs> melrockz: nope.. I didn't .. I was helping twanvdp with his issue but wondered what the "s" was in the second octet of drwxrwsr-x
[16:14] <IdleOne> Dalton: ??
[16:14] <ahox___> aeon-ltd: firefox, evince, file-manager, and I think that's it
[16:14] <ahox___> and openoffice
[16:14] <melrockz> k
[16:15] <Coronade> is anyone got an idea for the display resolution? the console (ctrl+alt+F2) doesn't display properly either
[16:15] <ahox___> those are bascially internet terminals for a conference, so the people should be able to work on their talks, read papers
[16:15] <melrockz> btw, how large is LMMS download?
[16:15] <gaza> root@ubuntu:~# sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/boot
[16:15] <gaza> root@ubuntu:~# sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/ /dev/sda1
[16:15] <gaza> /usr/sbin/grub-setup: warn: Attempting to install GRUB to a partition instead of the MBR.  This is a BAD idea..
[16:15] <gaza> /usr/sbin/grub-setup: warn: Embedding is not possible.  GRUB can only be installed in this setup by using blocklists.  However, blocklists are UNRELIABLE and its use is discouraged..
[16:15] <gaza> /usr/sbin/grub-setup: error: if you really want blocklists, use --force.
[16:15] <FloodBot3> gaza: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:15] <Dalton> ubuntu/bot/floodbot and gaza!*@*
[16:15] <melrockz> (not-that-important:-D)
[16:16] <vincentk> BluesKaj, I opened syanptic and clicked edit then fix broken packages and status line in bottom of window states "Successfully fixed dependancy problems"  Should I reboot now?
[16:18] <BluesKaj> vincentk, is the pakage manager rquirig a restart ?
[16:19] <BluesKaj> or has the notification disappeared , vincentk ?
[16:20] <vincentk> BluesKag - not the one I instantiated to run fix broke packages.  That restart dialog remains from my update attempt that we aborted earlier.
[16:20] <Eighteens> what would cause sound to stop working, was working great untill i did a get of vlc player and some other codecs that i thought were needed to play some video files
[16:21] <Eighteens> i should say it's working, but sounds garbled
[16:21] <BluesKaj> vincentk, ok reboot
[16:21] <coz_> hey guys   a little problem...can someon upload their ./ib/plymouth folder
[16:21] <mushroomblue> Eighteens: what backend is VLC using? can you switch?
[16:21] <coz_> sorry  /lib/plymouth folder
[16:22] <vincentk> BluesKaj OK
[16:22] <Eighteens> ahh got me, let me look, i'm pretty new to this /stuff
[16:22] <juanma> ola kien res
[16:22] <IdleOne> !es | juanma
[16:23] <mushroomblue> Eighteens: go into VLC's options, and see if there's any way to change the audio backend.
[16:23] <eross> 10.04 lts wont upgrade to 10.10, right?
[16:23] <xangua> eross: yes if you want to
[16:23] <Eighteens> mushroomblue  thanks, i'll try
[16:23] <Izinucs> eross: not until 10.10 is officially release and then only if you want it to
[16:24] <eross> oh thought RC meant it was official
[16:24] <mushroomblue> eross sudo update-manager -d
[16:24] <theadmin> eross: RC means Release Candidate. Close to stable but not enough yet
[16:24] <Izinucs> eross: it's close
[16:24] <mushroomblue> RC netbook edition was useless on my AspireOne, so I'm waiting for final.
[16:25] <melrockz> Izinucs: looks like it's the SGID. inherits rights of the group of the owner of the file.
[16:25] <eross> so i can upgrade through that once available without losing my home contents?
[16:25] <mushroomblue> eross: yup
[16:25] <Izinucs> melrockz: yes.. I just found that too.. if it's a lower case "s" then the execute bit is set.. if it's a capital "S" then it isn't
[16:25] <mushroomblue> eross: hell, if you don't do a guided install, you could wipe every directory but /home, and keep your home dir. :)
[16:25] <theadmin> Does anyone know what does "rc" actually stand for (as in, ".vimrc")
[16:26] <mushroomblue> ResourCe?
[16:26] <Izinucs> theadmin: "really cool"..
[16:26] <eross> ok october 10th... close  thanks
[16:26] <kaddi> !testdisk
[16:27] <Izinucs> eross: always best to have a separate /home partition "just in case" you have to reinstall
[16:27] <theadmin> kaddi: You're looking for fsck
[16:27] <theadmin> !fsck | kaddi
[16:27] <eross> really it is on a separate hd.. ubuntu is on ssd
[16:27] <kaddi> theadmin: no I'm not, I'm looking for testdisk
[16:28] <kaddi> http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Step_By_Step#A_partition_is_still_missing:_Deeper_Search
[16:28] <theadmin> !find testdisk|kaddi
[16:28] <Izinucs> eross: then you're good to go
[16:28] <theadmin> uh
[16:28] <theadmin> !find testdisk
[16:28] <theadmin> There it is
[16:28] <theadmin> kaddi: It's in the "testdisk" package
[16:28] <ssn> hi guys, is there any easy to use filename shortener for ubuntu (no bash foo)?
[16:28] <kaddi> i was looking for the link, I just posted, but tanks
[16:29] <theadmin> ssn: What do you want it do do? I might write one myself :D
[16:29] <melrockz> hehe proof that the bot's really a bot:-D
[16:30] <c3l> ssn: what is a filename shortener? that makes filenames shorter - based on what? like only keeping the first x characters in the filename?
[16:31] <ZykoticK9> !info testdisk | theadmin kaddi
[16:31] <BluesKaj> vincentk, so your reboot was successful , perhaps a different version of LIRC will work...does it require drivers?
[16:31] <karelh> hi, I was wondering if anyone could please help me - I have ATI 7500 Mobility graphic card, and I would like to use those open-source drivers, and configure the xorg.conf file (i'm using ubuntu 8.10) as it was done in the ubuntuforums, but I seem to have the xserver-xorg-video-vesa and I believe it uses this instead of ATI/Radeon drivers (which I installed). But when I remove the vesa package, i get "no screens found error" xorg.conf here: htt
[16:31] <karelh> p://ubuntu.pastebin.com/PGCW7Nhs
[16:32] <BluesKaj> gotta go
[16:32] <oracle> help computer
[16:32] <ssn> c3l: yes theadmin want to get a lot of folders and files to have only 31 character filenames
[16:32] <kaddi> anyone here that would be able to help me recover broken ext4 partitions?
[16:32] <Izinucs> karelh: 8.10 I believe is EOL.. end of life and no longer supported.. lots has changed since then.. including what vers. of X.org the drivers will work on.
[16:33] <ZykoticK9> karelh, line 351 Driver "vesa"
[16:33] <donvito2> maverick rock
[16:33] <donvito2> :)
[16:33] <theadmin> !maverick | donvito2
[16:33] <donvito2> i know i installed and it rocks bro
[16:33] <donvito2> :)
[16:33] <donvito2> try it
[16:33] <theadmin> donvito2: try it? No thanks :D I'm a fedora user and am here mainly to help other people
[16:33] <karelh> EOL - oh well :/,
[16:34] <ZykoticK9> donvito2, please don't recommend "beta" software for general use
[16:34] <alex__> how can i burn CD or DVD on ubuntu ?
[16:34] <samfisher> if i download 10.10 RC and when the final gets out I update/upgrade, will my system be stable?
[16:34] <c3l> ssn: and he did *not* want to use bash? thats a perfect example of something you would do with a shellscript :)
[16:34] <Izinucs> samfisher: yes
[16:34] <theadmin> alex__: Brasero. It should come preinstalled. Applications - Sound/Video - Brasero Disc Burner
[16:34] <Izinucs> samfisher: update/upgrade/dist-upgrade
[16:34] <ssn> c3l: i am to stupid and have no time. i tried on mac os x, but all the available filename shorteners can not handle large amounts of files over smb shares
[16:35] <karelh> ZykoticK9, yeah - any idea how to get it to work with "radeon"?
[16:35] <donvito2> i cant configure gdesklet
[16:35] <ZykoticK9> karelh, sorry i don't help with ATI issues, good luck man
[16:35] <karelh> oh, thanks
[16:36] <theadmin> karelh: To solve any problem with an ATI card, get an Nvidia and put that there instead :D
[16:36] <Izinucs> theadmin: :)
[16:36] <avis> i like color hues on ATI
[16:36] <theadmin> karelh: However Ubuntu worked out of the box on my Radeon back on the old laptop
[16:36] <karelh> :D
[16:36] <avis> red and orange look nice
[16:37] <Izinucs> avis: could just be how it sets the monitor... same adjustments can be made on nvidia..
[16:37] <ZykoticK9> karelh, just FYI, I agree with theadmin's non-solution ;)
[16:37] <avis> i dont wish to go to much trouble
[16:37] <rokr1> ATI + UBUNTU waste of time
[16:37] <vincentk> BluesKaj I have successfully rebooted and update manager reports my system is up to date.  I thank you for your knowledgeable support and assistance.  I am in technical support for NetApp and I know how challenging support can be. Thanks again
[16:37] <ssn> hi guys, is there any easy to use filename shortener for ubuntu (no bash foo, making folders and filenames shorter than 31 characters)?
[16:38] <avis> not true.  for me, good.  i'm not gamer
[16:38] <SuperMiguel> is there a way to edit the rEDIt menu? like i have OSX and linux, but there are 2 linux icons there.. is there a way to delete one of them??
[16:38] <Izinucs> ssn: you're trunkating file names on or for the benefit of a windows machine?
[16:38] <_aegis> Hi all...  I have to rebuild my RAID array and I'm in the process of moving my filesystem off the current array.  Can anyone tell me if I will have a problem using the following command:  tar cf - / | (cd /mnt/destination/dir; tar xvf -)
[16:39] <Tecan> how do i get the name of a dvd thats in the drive from shell ?
[16:39] <Tecan> i've tried google and it seems hopeless
[16:39] <Izinucs> Tecan: ls /media/cdrom0
[16:39] <Tecan> no the name
[16:39] <Tecan> the label
[16:40] <rek> solved type that name in the terminal
[16:40] <theadmin> Tecan: I think you might find it in output of "mount", alas, not on the Linux machine so can't be sure
[16:40] <rek> hi, bluetooth doesn't work any help?
[16:40] <theadmin> !doesntwork | rek
[16:40] <Tecan> mount
[16:40] <ssn> Izinucs: Mac OS X
[16:40] <theadmin> Tecan: ...terminal, not here
[16:41] <Tecan> yep it looks good thanks
[16:41] <MyWay> hello, does somebody know if the Asus Xonar DG works under ubuntu?
[16:41] <Izinucs> ssn: you might be limited to a bit of bash foo .. is Mac having issues with long filenames?
[16:41] <rek> theadmin: it's a lot of month i can't send or receive files
[16:41] <phil_in_london> rek, have you installed bluez yet?
[16:42] <rek> yes
[16:42] <phil_in_london> rek, whats the output show from hciconfig hci0 -a ?
[16:42] <theadmin> rek: The model of the bluetooth device may be of help.
[16:42] <Appi_Desktop> Is there any partition recovery software available in Ubuntu 10.04?
[16:42] <theadmin> Appi_Desktop: testdisk
[16:43] <ZykoticK9> !info testdisk | Appi_Desktop
[16:43] <rek> !codepad
[16:43] <rek> !pastebin
[16:43] <Appi_Desktop> theadmin, ZykoticK9 , ubottu, Thanks a lot.
[16:44] <theadmin> ubottu: thanks | Appi_Desktop
[16:44] <rek> http://paste.ubuntu.com/504553/ phil_in_london
[16:44] <phil_in_london> rek, I'm assuming you're hiding the baddr and that its not actually 11:11:11.....
[16:45] <rek> phil_in_london:  don't know
[16:45] <phil_in_london> rek, have you been messing with your hcid.conf file?
[16:45] <theadmin> rek: That is, is the BD Adress really displayed as 11:11... or did you modify it?
[16:45] <bonez2046> I have used logmein a long time, but it seems unstable lately.. I need to remotely control a mac and a few win xp boxes.. Suggestions on something better for remote control like,but better than logmein?
[16:46] <rek> no theadmin phil_in_london
[16:46] <theadmin> bonez2046: Check www.teamviewer.com
[16:46] <phil_in_london> rek, okay, give us another paste, this time need the contents of   /etc/bluetooth/hcid.conf
[16:46] <MyWay> does somebody know if the Asus Xonar DG works under ubuntu? Or any cheap soundcard with internal spdif for hdmi
[16:46] <phil_in_london> I'm back in 5.
[16:47] <rek> phil_in_london:  sure of the directory?
[16:47] <johndudlifuk> afternoon
[16:49] <Exterminans> Hi, is there a way to choose which chanel should be used by the volume panel? I need to use PCM instead of Master since the Master-Channel is bugged with my soundcard
[16:49] <theadmin> raw_boot: Stop that.
[16:50]  * raw_boot slap theadmin
[16:50] <theadmin> raw_boot: often nick changing is no good.
[16:51] <phil_in_london> rek, sorry that might be my custom kernel, just a sec.
[16:51] <raw_boot> sorry just registering
[16:51] <rek> phil_in_london: it is empty
[16:51] <Eighteens> my sound was awesome when i was using live cd, now it sounds so bad, i want to scream
[16:51] <theadmin> raw_boot: Okay then. I thought you were doing it intentionally
[16:51] <raw_boot> nope
[16:51] <bonez2046> theadmin: thanks.. giving it a try
[16:51] <raw_boot> :)
[16:51] <bonez2046> theadmin: do you use teamviewer?
[16:52] <theadmin> bonez2046: Yeah
[16:52] <phil_in_london> yeah, sorry, that one was for mips.
[16:52] <phil_in_london> just a sec.
[16:52] <Exterminans> Nobody knows how to choose which channel should be used for volumecontroll?
[16:52] <_aegis> Hi all...  I have to rebuild my RAID array and I'm in the process of moving my filesystem off the current array.  Can anyone tell me if I will have a problem using the following command from a rescue CD:  tar cf - /root/file/system | (cd /mnt/destination/dir; tar xvf -)
[16:53] <friedo> anyone familiar with configuring the gnome network manager plugin vor vpnc? i got a plain config file but i want to do it with the plugin: http://www.zid.tuwien.ac.at/kom/tunet/vpn/vpnc/vpnc_client_fuer_den_externen_vpn_zugang/
[16:54] <bahamas> hello, i have installed vim, but i can only use it in the terminal. what else should i install if i want GUI?
[16:54] <phil_in_london> rek, do you have more than one bluetooth device setup in this computer?
[16:55] <theadmin> bahamas: the vim-gtk package
[16:55] <rek> no phil_in_london
[16:55] <phil_in_london> rek, try  hciconfig -a    see what that says to us.
[16:55] <bahamas> theadmin: thank you
[16:55] <theadmin> bahamas: np. Vim FTW.
[16:55] <phil_in_london> rek, have you installed bluemon yet?
[16:55] <donvito2> conky roxxxxxxxxxxxx
[16:55] <rek> phil_in_london:  i've just installed it right now
[16:56] <phil_in_london> rek, what about blueman, they are basically the same, its just preference to which you like, blueman may have more features for you.
[16:56] <wolfric> will using extra visual effects take much of a toll on a battery if running from laptop
[16:56] <bahamas> theadmin: heh, i'm just starting to use it.
[16:57] <rek> ok phil_in_london just installed it
[16:57] <theadmin> bahamas: It's easy to learn but if you want you can PM and I'll try to help
[16:57] <theadmin> bahamas: It looks complicated at first you see
[16:57] <codezer0> hello , i am using ubuntu 9.10.. i wish to know wats the status of modversioning in this???
[16:57] <bahamas> theadmin: can you recommend any good settings for using python with vim?
[16:57] <bahamas> theadmin: indeed, it does, especially in the terminal :)
[16:57] <phil_in_london> rek, okay, you'll want those to manage the bluetooth afterwards, now we have to find out why you have a bogus address in your configuration.
[16:58] <codezer0> hello , i am using ubuntu 9.10.. i wish to know wats the status of modversioning in this???
[16:58] <theadmin> bahamas: Well, a few commands can be added to .vimrc but I don't use python with vim. Altough both rock as heck.
[16:58] <phil_in_london> rek, is this a laptop with bluetooth installed, or is it a usb you've added?
[16:58] <miyamoto> can someone help me to connecct mobile broadband net to ubuntu
[16:58] <theadmin> codezer0: Please don't repeat yourself.
[16:58] <amarcolino> hi anyone can direct me, got two machines that I want to turn into a load balancing cluster, on them will run vm images hosting low traffic websites, any information that can be provided on how to achieve this and keep them in sync?
[16:58] <theadmin> miyamoto: May be able to.
[16:58] <Tecan> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5ouOa9k0gE < sheryl crow
[16:58] <rek> phil_in_london: it's some month i can't use bluetooth with linux except with my smartq 5
[16:59] <codezer0> ok, so can anyone tell me???
[16:59] <phil_in_london> rek, not sure what a smartq 5 is.
[16:59] <bahamas> theadmin: ok, i'll google for some examples. i know i've seen examples of vim config for python
[16:59] <rek> phil_in_london: usb adapter i have many usb adapters, its a MID
[16:59] <rek> arm core..
[17:00] <phil_in_london> rek, the 11:11:11:11:11:11 is bothering me, you don't remember editing a conf file somewhere and putting that in there do you?
[17:00] <rek> phil_in_london:  i'm sure
[17:00] <codezer0> i m trying to learn module programming
[17:00] <codezer0> so if sum1 can help with modversioning
[17:01] <phil_in_london> rek, do you have a different usb bluetooth adapter you can plug in? perhaps this one has gone bad...I'm not even sure where you could possibly edit a conf file to replace the hardware address of the unit.
[17:01] <theadmin> codezer0: Well if someone knew, someone would help. that's how our IRC works.
[17:01] <rek> phil_in_london:  maybe
[17:01] <phil_in_london> rek, you could try    hciconfig hci0 reset
[17:01] <codezer0> well where can i get information, sir
[17:01] <_aegis> Hi all...  I have to rebuild my RAID array and I'm in the process of moving my filesystem off the current array.  Can anyone tell me if I will have a problem using the following command from a rescue CD:  tar cf - /root/file/system | (cd /mnt/destination/dir; tar xvf -)
[17:01] <phil_in_london> rek, and then hciconfig hci0 -a      and see if it changes at all.
[17:01] <AbhiJit> codezer0, #programming
[17:01] <theadmin> codezer0: Post on www.ubuntuforums.org
[17:02] <rek> phil_in_london:  the same
[17:03] <phil_in_london> rek, yeah, I was just checking all the parameters for hciconfig, you couldn't change that even if you wanted to...somethings buggerred with the bluetooth device itself.
[17:03] <codezer0> abhijit: can i pm u??
[17:03] <user2> is the icedtea plugin the only plugin for firefox now available for ubuntu 10.04 > 10.10?
[17:03] <AbhiJit> codezer0, about what?
[17:03] <codezer0> abt the same
[17:04] <codezer0> :)
[17:04] <Tecan> shit stinks
[17:04] <IdleOne> !language | Tecan
[17:04] <magicianlord> what is a reason why a router would fail to provide a dns?
[17:04] <Ek|mu5> routers don't provide DNS
[17:05] <Ek|mu5> unless there
[17:05] <Ek|mu5> 's named running on it
[17:05] <magicianlord> whatever, the thing it's supposed to provide to the remove computer via wifi
[17:05] <rokr1_> dhcp option 3 is not functioning rite magic
[17:05] <magicianlord> if it doesnt, what's what problem
[17:05] <magicianlord> rokr1_: yeah
[17:06] <theadmin> magicianlord: Hm. Try setting the DNS servers on router to 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 and see if it goes.
[17:06] <rek> ok phil_in_london
[17:07] <JimRome> @magic - the router may not have the DNS servers entered into the configuration. You can get those from your ISP or use open DNS servers like opendns.
[17:07] <rokr1_> if the router runs openwrt or other opensource firmware just do sudo service dnsmasq restart
[17:07] <rooligan> Hi
[17:07] <magicianlord> ok JimRome. thanks
[17:07] <rokr1_> sorry just service dnsmasq restart
[17:07] <bahamas> doesn't a shortcut appear in the Applications menu after installing vim-gtk?
[17:08] <magicianlord> is there a way to set the dns remotely to it?
[17:08] <rooligan> bahamas: yes
[17:08] <phil_in_london> rek, have you installed bluez-utils yet?
[17:08] <bahamas> rooligan: under what category? i can't find it
[17:09] <rek> phil_in_london: can't find package
[17:09] <rooligan> bahamas: Sorry, I don't know anymore
[17:09] <JimRome> @magic - most routers are running a web based config. plug into the router and browse to its IP address. The DNS servers are configurable. You type the DNS servers IP addresses into the screen and save the config. If it is command line based router, you usually SSH into the router.
[17:10] <phil_in_london> rek, hmm, thats not good, are you just using apt-get? does it show in synaptec?
[17:10] <rek> yes,wait
[17:10] <bahamas> rooligan: ok, i opened it by typing gvim in the terminal
[17:10] <BluesKaj> JimRome, magicianlord, opendns seems tp block email after the a dynamic IP changes ..it happened to me ..googledns seems to work better for those of outside the US
[17:10] <magicianlord> JimRome: yeah. thanks
[17:11] <rek> phil_in_london: was spelled in a bad way
[17:11] <rooligan> bahamas: maybe in Development, or Accessoires
[17:11] <rek> phil_in_london: installed
[17:12] <phil_in_london> rek, try this    1)   hciconfig hci0 down   2) unplug/replug bluetooth  3)  hciconfig hci0 -a
[17:12] <bahamas> rooligan: i don't have Development, and it's not in Accessories. (i'm on Ubuntu 9.04, btw)
[17:12] <rek> same bd address phil_in_london
[17:13] <phil_in_london> rek, that was pretty much the last shot, I'd heard of people with similar problems but their fix was to make sure the utils was up to date.
[17:13] <magicianlord> bahamas: upgrading to 10.10 soon?
[17:13] <phil_in_london> rek, this bluetooth, is it a bluetooth/harddrive combo?
[17:13] <rooligan> bahamas: Did you install it now? I installed now, it is in alacarte, the menu editor, but not in the menu itself
[17:13] <bahamas> magicianlord: when i get a better internet connection at least
[17:13] <rooligan> bahamas: maybe you need to log out and log in
[17:13] <rek> phil_in_london: next time we're trying with a different adapter
[17:14] <rek> thank you
[17:14] <phil_in_london> rek, you're welcome.
[17:14] <phil_in_london> rek, hciconfig hci0 -a, if you don't see a hardware address similar to a mac address, then you've got a problem
[17:15] <rek> nice
[17:15] <Eighteens> i killed the pulseaudio, it restarted, and now sound seems to be sounding good again, so it's not garbled anymore
[17:15] <bahamas> rooligan: ok, i'll check again after i log out
[17:15] <Tecan> intense
[17:16] <rek> phil_in_london: just plugged in a new adapter and i see a macaddr
[17:17] <phil_in_london> rek, then the rest should be easy using either bluemon or blueman.
[17:18] <phil_in_london> rek, you just trying to send a file to your phone or something like that?
[17:18] <nikkita> i did it :P
[17:18] <nikkita> but now my internet wont work :(
[17:18] <nikkita> on ubuntu
[17:18] <rek> phil_in_london:  yes but i'm not able to do it
[17:18] <phil_in_london> rek, is your phone's bluetooth discoverable?
[17:18] <rek> the conncetion disappear
[17:19] <rek> yes of course
[17:20] <phil_in_london> rek, is your phone obex capable?
[17:20] <rek> sure
[17:20] <nikkita> can anyone help please
[17:20] <knolls> is there a way i can change sound cards using the cli?
[17:20] <phil_in_london> rek, so you've done an sdptool browse XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX to confirm this?
[17:20] <mineur> depends nikkita :) just ask and you might get an answer
[17:21] <nikkita> well ubuntu wouldnt install so i installed kubuntu
[17:21] <nikkita> and my internet works from a usb modem
[17:21] <nikkita> how can i install it :s
[17:21] <guntbert> !enter | nikkita
[17:21] <Dr_Willis> nikkita:  this is a DSL modem? dialup? or what exactly?
[17:22] <c3l> whats the core differences between ubuntu desktop and server edition?
[17:22] <nikkita> dr_willis its a 3g modem
[17:22] <greppy> c3l: gnome.
[17:22] <Dr_Willis> c3l:  server = no X server installed, and i think has some services installed.
[17:22] <X-Sleepy-X> nikkita: what brand?
[17:22] <Dr_Willis> !3g
[17:22] <nikkita> huwaie
[17:22] <phil_in_london> rek, install  obex-data-server, obexfs and ussp-push    thats for starters.
[17:22] <mineur> nikkita: you know the brand and model?
[17:22] <guntbert> !server | c3l
[17:23] <X-Sleepy-X> nikkita: does the modem work as a usb storage device as well as a modem?
[17:23] <Dr_Willis> c3l:  for my home network. I use the desktop edition and install the services i need.
[17:23] <c3l> greppy: Dr_Willis: so there is no real disadvantage with using the desktop version for a server? I need X as my server will act HTPC too..
[17:23] <nikkita> yes x-sleepy-x
[17:24] <MasterOfDisaster> c3l: they use the same packages, but preinstall different sets
[17:24] <mineur> nikkita: try executing lsusb
[17:24] <c3l> what about the extendet server support? what is it that it is supporting extra on the server edition versus the desktop edition?
[17:24] <rek> phil_in_london:  Failed to connect to SDP server on 00:0E:6D:F0:68:93: Connection reset by peer
[17:24] <phil_in_london> rek, so thats your phone turning off the connection.
[17:24] <mineur> see if lsusb gives you some feedback on what modem it is
[17:24] <X-Sleepy-X> nikkita: ok try to install usb-modeswitch
[17:25] <nikkita> im new to ubuntu :(
[17:25] <plovs> c3l support here means longer security updates
[17:25] <vivek_40> I am planing to buy this netbook lenovo ideapad s10-3t. It has a touch  screen monitor and comes with win7 installed. It does not have a free  dos version. Before buying it I wanted to know whether, I can remove win  7 from it and install ubuntu and if ubuntu would support its touch  screen behaviour .
[17:25] <rek> phil_in_london: il''l try another device
[17:25] <X-Sleepy-X> nikkita: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install usb-modeswitch
[17:25] <guntbert> c3l: you get the extended support only for "server" packages (not for gnome....)
[17:25] <X-Sleepy-X> nikkita: type that into the terminal
[17:25] <plovs> c3l for server related packages
[17:25] <phil_in_london> rek, did you phone notify you about "data connection to blah blah blah" ?
[17:25] <rek> phil_in_london: it's silent :)
[17:26] <Dr_Willis> c3l:  use the desktop edition then
[17:26] <guntbert> vivek_40: can you try it with a live CD/usb key?
[17:26] <phil_in_london> rek, unless they are paired (which you can do with bluemon or blueman) you'll have to acknowledge the transmission on the phone.
[17:26] <X-Sleepy-X> nikkita: you might have to reboot the pc or perhaps just reconnect the 3g modem after the installation
[17:26] <c3l> guntbert: plovs: that explains it, thanks. so If i want a HTPC/server i should go with the desktop edition?
[17:26] <c3l> Dr_Willis: thanks :)
[17:26] <nikkita> sleepy it comes up in the bottom tray it can see it connected
[17:26] <Dr_Willis> c3l:  much easier to make a desktop a server.. then the reverse
[17:26] <nikkita> but i didnt know you can install stuff on ubuntu
[17:26] <rek> phil_in_london: can't do that even using a gui the pairing went bad
[17:27] <vivek_40> guntbert:No i guess they wont let me try it with my usb and ubuntu on it before buying it
[17:27] <phil_in_london> rek, so what are you doing there? going through the "really old junk box" ? :)
[17:27] <Dr_Willis> vivek_40:   most netbooks are decently well supported by linux/ubuntu
[17:27] <guntbert> vivek_40: then I don't know - sorry
[17:27] <X-Sleepy-X> nikkita: i'm not sure i understood the last two messages...
[17:27] <Dr_Willis> vivek_40:  the touchscreen.. may be a issue.. never had a touchscreen'
[17:28] <plovs> c3l ubuntu is like lego, it is a matter of adding and removing packages to turn it into a server or workstation or both
[17:28] <rek> phil_in_london: what?
[17:28] <c3l> nikkita: what do you mean. ubuntu got some huge repos
[17:28] <vivek_40> Dr_Willis:yes the touchscreen was a thing i was most worried about
[17:28] <Dr_Willis> vivek_40:   check the forums.
[17:28] <phil_in_london> rek, just wondering, first we fought with your broken bluetooth adapter, now it seems we are fighting with your phone.
[17:28] <Dr_Willis> vivek_40:  the little ive used touchscreens.. i found them to be a gimmic. :)
[17:28] <pk4r> Is lack of ALT+F2 (Gnome run command) functionality in Ubuntu 10.10 Netbook edition a bug or feature ?
[17:28] <vivek_40> Dr_Willis: have posted on the ubuntu Forum but ....
[17:28] <nikkita> my boyfriend told me to install ubntu because its better than windows...
[17:28] <rek> yeah
[17:29] <Dr_Willis> vivek_40:  you did search the forums first?
[17:29] <vivek_40> Dr_Willis: This model actually folds up like a tablet and looks pretty good
[17:29] <X-Sleepy-X> nikkita: by installing usb-modeswitch ubuntu should detect the modem part of the usb dongle and not just the storage device...
[17:29] <vivek_40> Dr_Willis: no will check that out too
[17:29] <c3l> plovs: ah I see, thanks. but what makes ubuntu ubuntu is really the preinstalled stuff, you could get debian, but there you'd have to configure it a bit more to get what you want, right?
[17:29] <phil_in_london> rek, I messaged you, might be easier to read/follow there instead.
[17:29] <Dr_Willis> vivek_40:  :) Should of searched befor you posted. heh.. there may be a thread on that exact machine.
[17:29] <suprengr> Ever since last kernel update ( to 2.6.32.25 ) a couple of strange things have started happening - most noticeable is when unmounting in nautilus an external or internal drive "could not display computer:///" is shown. No problem as nautilus actually can (I just click "ok" to kill msg box & carry on) - on last boot all the title areas on all apps disppeared - on reboot, all ok.  Can someone call out rhe best fschk comm
[17:29] <suprengr> and to use to -fully- the drive (tho SMART reports ok). Cheers.
[17:30] <suprengr> ...and soz for the long post!
[17:30] <vivek_40> Dr_Willis:ok :-) sometimes you do feel lazy ..
[17:30]  * suprengr waits for warning from ubottu ;)
[17:30] <Dr_Willis> suprengr:  'title bar' vanishing i is proberly compiz crashing
[17:30] <plovs> c3l well, if you want a workstation+server you have to install packges anywy, but starting with the workstation makes working defaults for sounds etc, server soft is usually easier to add
[17:31] <suprengr> Dr_Willis: that makes sense... thnx
[17:32] <usuario> opi
[17:33] <suprengr> Any ideas re the funny Nautilus behaviour... happens here on desktop & on netbook. Both since kernel update only.
[17:33] <usuario> oi
[17:33] <usuario> alguem me diz como me comunicar aqui
[17:34] <wedwo> !es | usuario
[17:34] <c3l> I think thats italian
[17:34] <c3l> !it
[17:34] <X-Sleepy-X> portugese
[17:34] <AbhiJit> why not ask him only?
[17:34] <X-Sleepy-X> its portugese
[17:34] <xangua> c3l: no it's not, he just doesn't know how to write
[17:35] <AbhiJit> :(
[17:35] <suprengr> Dr_Willis: Any ideas re the funny Nautilus behaviour... happens here on desktop & on netbook. Both since kernel update only
[17:35] <Izinucs> is there a cli command to list the current running kernel?
[17:35] <AbhiJit> Izinucs, uname -r
[17:35] <levine> usuario, ubuntu-br
[17:35] <Dr_Willis> suprengr:  no idea on that..  as for fscking the drive.  theres commands to make it fsck them at the next reboot.
[17:35] <Dr_Willis> !fsck
[17:35] <frederik1986> hi all
[17:35] <AbhiJit> levine, he left
[17:36] <Izinucs> AbhiJit: levine thanks
[17:36] <levine> ok
[17:36] <frederik1986> i have a ifconfig related question ( running ubuntu lts lucid
[17:36] <suprengr> Dr_Willis: cheeres & many thanks (copies command and gets ready to reboot ;-D
[17:36] <AbhiJit> frederik1986, ask
[17:36] <frederik1986> i have a ssh tunnel to this machine ,  when i broke te connectn  , tun0 was still there
[17:37] <frederik1986> the howto i read says that when connection is broken tun0 would be gone
[17:37] <frederik1986> now when i make a ssh tunnel again , its says device busy
[17:37] <Izinucs> frederik1986: are you running screen or byobu?
[17:37] <frederik1986> another channel works
[17:37] <frederik1986> screen
[17:38] <Izinucs> frederik1986: when you broke the connection did you do that by closing the terminal window?
[17:38] <frederik1986> yes
[17:38] <frederik1986> screen was terminated
[17:38] <norbi905> Hello, I recently purchased a PS3 and found out that I can somehow stream media to it using DLNA?  I have ubuntu server installed, along with a windows machine.  All my media are on the windows machine, what I would like to be able to do is copy this media to the ubuntu server, and have that act as the "media server".  Now I believe I need something like NFS export from ubuntu so windows can see the volume ?  Can
[17:38] <norbi905> someone point me in the right direction, thank you.
[17:39] <dwarder> this is my partition table http://img5.glowfoto.com/images/2010/10/02-0908014933L.png, i want unallocated space to be added sda3(ext4) filesistem, why gparted not allowing me to do this?
[17:39] <arrrghhh> anybody use PS3MediaServer in here?  i'm having performance issues with it...
[17:39] <Izinucs> frederik1986: then you didn't break the connection by closing the terminal window.. you "exited" the ssh session then exited screen then closed the terminal windows.. does that sound familure?
[17:39] <frederik1986> windows doesn't see nfs  unless you pay for the client i think?
[17:39] <Dr_Willis> norbi905:  you use 'samba' to get windows <-> linux  shares setup
[17:39] <frederik1986> i typed exit to leave the session yes
[17:39] <mansoor> hi guys, i need some help to install IES4Linux on ubuntu, is this a right place for it?
[17:39] <Dr_Willis> !samba | norbi905
[17:40] <Nattgew> how can I change my credit card info for ubuntu one music store?
[17:40] <norbi905> Dr_Willis, From what I heard, NFS has much better performance compared to samba, am I miss-informed?
[17:40] <frederik1986> yes but nfs insn't supported in windows
[17:40] <Dr_Willis> norbi905:  it can be.. but  good luck finding a NFS client for windows for free.. Ive never found one yet.
[17:40] <Izinucs> frederik1986: hummm... then I have no ideal why tun0 is still alive.. sorry.. I thought screen may not have been terminated correctly and was still live but in the background.
[17:41] <frederik1986> no no ,checked that
[17:41] <Dr_Willis> norbi905:  samba is pretty much a standard feature on most netwrork gizmos,.,.
[17:41] <frederik1986> on my laptop , tun0 was gone
[17:41] <frederik1986> could the problem be in sshd_config?
[17:41] <norbi905> Dr_Willis, Windows 7 does NFS out of the box I believe
[17:41] <Dr_Willis> norbi905:  the win7 I have definatly does not..
[17:42] <Dr_Willis> i looked. :)
[17:42] <norbi905> Dr_Willis, I will give it a try first, lets see how it goes :)
[17:42] <Dr_Willis> norbi905:  perhaps the uber-business-whatever-elite-edition does.
[17:42] <Solved> coz_: are you still there by any chance?
[17:42] <Izinucs> Dr_Willis: might be the version of win7?  they have 5 and some features you only get when spending $$'s
[17:42] <Dr_Willis> norbi905:  you will want to learn how samba works.. its the best way to share stuff with windows machines.. and even handy for linux to linux stuff.
[17:42] <coz_> Solved,  yes
[17:42] <greppy> norbi905: in general, samba is better on linux than nfs.
[17:42] <coz_> Solved,  how did that go ?
[17:42] <arrrghhh> norbi905, i have 'ultimate' and it doesn't have NFS support.
[17:43] <Dr_Willis> arrrghhh:  guess its not so Ultimate eh? :) Gotta love marketing terms..
[17:43] <frederik1986> i just created the tunnel again , but with -vv
[17:43] <frederik1986> when i exit on server , it hangs on debug2: channel 1: send close
[17:43] <frederik1986> debug2: channel 1: is dead
[17:43] <frederik1986> debug2: channel 1: garbage collecting
[17:43] <frederik1986> debug1: channel 1: free: client-session, nchannels 13
[17:43] <FloodBot3> frederik1986: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:43] <frederik1986> sry
[17:44] <Solved> coz_: its not in desktop, its still in the downloads folder
[17:44] <arrrghhh> Dr_Willis, haha yea.  i think you can download some pack from their website but it didn't work that well.  samba "just works"
[17:44] <norbi905> Hmm, I have Ultimate as well.  Ahh I believe it was an iSCSI volume that I exported which windows found.  I had the two confused sorry.
[17:44] <coz_> Solved,  ok  go into downloads  right click and Move to   Desktop
[17:44] <nikkita> omg it dont work :( dr_willis
[17:44] <phil_in_london> Go the other way, put nfs server on windows http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?FamilyID=896C9688-601B-44F1-81A4-02878FF11778&displaylang=en
[17:44] <coz_> Solved,  you can move  it back later
[17:45] <Solved> coz_: ok done
[17:45] <coz_> Solved,  ok right click that file go to Properties   Permissions and make sure the Execut  is ticked
[17:46] <Solved> coz_: ok done
[17:46] <coz_> Solved,  ok open a terminal and type      cd  Desktop     make sure  Desktop is upper case
[17:46] <donvito2> why i cant get capture from my web camera?
[17:46] <pr0ton> hello
[17:46] <Solved> sliver@koerber-desktop:~$ cd Desktop
[17:46] <Solved> sliver@koerber-desktop:~/Desktop$
[17:46] <Solved> coz_: ^^^
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> donvito2: you can with cheese
[17:47] <pr0ton> i have a 64 bit system, is there any reason to prefer a 32-bit version of ubuntu over a 64-bit one
[17:47] <pr0ton> ?
[17:47] <donvito2> cheese?
[17:47] <coz_> Solved,  now in that terminal type   sudo  ./trem  and hit the tab key to complete the package name
[17:47] <Dr_Willis> nikkita:  assume people on irc have short attention spans.. i have no idea what part of your thing 'dont work'
[17:47] <Solved> coz_: sliver@koerber-desktop:~$ cd Desktop
[17:47] <Solved> sliver@koerber-desktop:~/Desktop$ sudo ./tremulous-1.1.0-installer.x86\(2\).run Verifying archive integrity...Error in MD5 checksums: df723fafbe14abbfbb566c0efa960b23 is different from 3659d26e57c655b11efca6331ee16e0c
[17:47] <Solved> sliver@koerber-desktop:~/Desktop$
[17:47] <FloodBot3> Solved: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:47] <coz_> Solved,   ok let me Pm you hold on
[17:47] <donvito2> i cant get my webcam work with emesene amsn and skype
[17:47] <Izinucs> pr0ton: occationally flash works better on 32.. if you need citrix the client is 32bit only
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> pr0ton: 3rd party companies still support 64bit more, if you have more than 3Gb RAM then I'd suggst 64bit, or if you plan to encode video / music then 64bit helps
[17:48] <phreaked> |terminal
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> Solved: isn't tremulous in the repos?
[17:48] <phreaked> admin account rcr = shell
[17:48] <warpool> hey all i just got his all installed and was talking to a friend and he had me put in a command alsamixer then something else to turn my sound off i cant remember the command and cant get my sound back on does anyone know this command?
[17:48] <pr0ton> lzinucs: works better in the sense? i already have an AMD so lower support i guess from flash
[17:48] <phreaked> phreaker x net . com phreaked,?SOUL
[17:48] <phreaked> nonsense | dep
[17:48] <phreaked> phreak patch
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> Solved: tremulous 1.1.0 is in the lucid multiverse repo
[17:48] <Dr_Willis> Hmm?
[17:49] <phil_in_london> warpool, you should just add the icon to your panel so its always there for you.
[17:49] <phreaked> term = root shell account access
[17:49] <MyWay> does somebody know if the Asus Xonar DG works under ubuntu? Or any cheap soundcard with internal spdif for hdmi
[17:49] <Izinucs> pr0ton: depending on the flash app it may crash.. I have a couple from work I use online and it's hit and miss
[17:49] <phreaked> ssecca pro
[17:49] <warpool> i do have it there but it has the muted symbol now and i cant get it off
[17:49] <donvito2> i cant get my camera work even in cheese dont know whats the problem
[17:49] <phreaked> fc - term chik |txp name selph,SOUL
[17:49] <phil_in_london> warpool, then click it to open it up and uncheck the mute.
[17:49] <ActionParsnip> MyWay: if you have one now, boot to liveCD and test
[17:49] <phreaked> admin account root shell | cit
[17:49] <sunson> phreaked: what did you just smoke, man?
[17:49] <Dr_Willis> phreaked:  what are you doing?
[17:49] <warpool> there is no option for it
[17:50] <phreaked> shell access
[17:50] <Izinucs> ActionParsnip: Solved has been working on this since last night.. doesn't want to install to /.. also playdeb.net has the latest version.. repos are out of date
[17:50] <phreaked> proth
[17:50] <phreaked> zero name
[17:50] <MyWay> ActionParsnip: i have to buy one soundcard
[17:50] <phreaked> sero guess
[17:50] <X-Sleepy-X> !break | phreaked
[17:50] <pr0ton> lzinucs:  does installing ubuntu on a dell laptop void it's warranty?
[17:50]  * phreaked ,
[17:50] <phreaked> oleik iwkqu!
[17:50]  * phreaked oeil oelo icix
[17:50] <FloodBot3> phreaked: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:50] <Dr_Willis> pr0ton:  i cant see why it would.
[17:50]  * phreaked cxp city listen.di.fm/public5/trance.asx
[17:50]  * sunson was just waiting for FloodBot3 to kick in...
[17:50]  * phreaked soul server
[17:51] <ActionParsnip> Izinucs: the file Solved is using is tremulous-1.1.0-installer.x86.run   if you run: apt-cache policy tremulous , you will see it's 1.1.0-4.1build1 0   so the .run file is out of date too?
[17:51]  * phreaked cxpWORLD.SOUL ADMin
[17:51] <Dr_Willis> pr0ton:  but if you need to send it back.. you may need to reinstall windows..  I alwasy buy a 2nd hd for the laptops to keep the 'windows' hd  untouched.
[17:51] <Xhud> yo
[17:51] <Izinucs> pr0ton: first letter of the nick is a capital i .. and I'm not sure about the warranty thing on dell's.. they did/use to sell lappy's with ubuntu preinstalled..
[17:51]  * phreaked phreak city pro x lopht
[17:51] <phil_in_london> warpool, when you open that icon do you have tabs in it, one of them saying Hardware?
[17:51] <phreaked> lopht=cin
[17:51] <xangua> pr0ton: no hardware warranty,if you leave ubuntu as th only OS yes for software warranty
[17:51] <pr0ton> Izinucs: yeah true
[17:51] <ActionParsnip> phreaked: if you want a "root shell" just run: sudo -i
[17:51]  * phreaked nice kind error message
[17:51] <pmjp> hi
[17:51] <pr0ton> xangua: i didnt get you ?
[17:51] <X-Sleepy-X> !enter | phreaked
[17:51] <pr0ton> xangua: means i only have hardware warranty?
[17:52] <pmjp> how are you guys
[17:52] <jellington> does anyone know why messaging pop ups have such a huge space between the panel and them? is it hardcoded or something. the volume status appears in the right place.
[17:52] <pr0ton> xangua: that works pretty well for me, if it's ttrue
[17:52] <Dr_Willis> Software warrenty? :) ive never even heard of that.
[17:52] <GreG> hi. can someone please give me the opendns server IPs
[17:52] <warpool> when i open it is a small box has no tabs. i may have the wrong one open this one says KMix
[17:52] <pr0ton> Dr_Willis: needed for those who use windows :P
[17:52] <phreaked> f+
[17:52] <X-Sleepy-X> GreG: 208.67.222.222, 208.67.220.220
[17:52] <Dr_Willis> pr0ton:  and 'virus insurance' ?
[17:52] <phreaked> admin account = not caught
[17:52] <GreG> ty
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> GreG: https://store.opendns.com/setup/operatingsystem/ubuntu
[17:52] <phil_in_london> warpool, do a right click on the top middle of your screen, then click Add to Panel, look for a guy that looks like a Speaker, add him.
[17:52]  * phreaked cuaght | pro
[17:52] <Dr_Willis> Ok.. perhaps its time someone did somthing about phreaked ...
[17:52] <Izinucs> ActionParsnip: I guess it's the latest stable.. there is a 1.2 beta out
[17:52] <phreaked> 090909.9990999909
[17:53] <pr0ton> Dr_Willis: on an annual basis, but it only covers a limited bunch of clauses :P
[17:53]  * phreaked 4475474,449595555,4
[17:53] <JDuke128> hi , i m searching for code CPRM protection copying in C/C++ or any other language , i searched google but no result.Someone know about CPRM protection coding or CPRM ?
[17:53] <phreaked> then that
[17:53] <donvito2> i cant get my camera work even in cheese dont know whats the problem
[17:53] <warpool> ok i got the the box with the 2 tabs 1 being general 1 being hardware
[17:53] <ActionParsnip> Izinucs: the user is trying to install the stable, which is in the repo
[17:53]  * phreaked error me account
[17:53] <phreaked> |phre
[17:53] <TDJACR> How can I back up my keyring?
[17:53]  * phreaked +contra
[17:53] <Izinucs> ActionParsnip: usually the repos are out of date for games.. but he did download direct
[17:53] <phil_in_london> warpool, get into hardware, maybe that other guy got you to set hardware to Off or None.
[17:53] <Dr_Willis> donvito2:  not all web cams are supported.. try using it with vlc perhaps?  check teh forums for your exact make of webcam.
[17:53] <ActionParsnip> phreaked: do you have an ubuntu question?
[17:53]  * phreaked telnet sesion = now
[17:53]  * phreaked pro crate
[17:53] <pr0ton> xangua: does it void warranty or not ?
[17:53]  * phreaked scat
[17:53] <Izinucs> ActionParsnip: I agree.. installing from the repo is much easier
[17:54]  * phreaked phlue
[17:54] <xangua> pr0ton: only if you fight for your rights
[17:54] <ActionParsnip> !ops | phreaked spamming
[17:54] <phreaked> procrate
[17:54] <pr0ton> xangua: thanks. will do
[17:54]  * phreaked <- pro
[17:54] <warpool> its on auto detect and nothing is checked off
[17:54]  * phreaked = nes
[17:54]  * phreaked nintendo power | worship
[17:54]  * phreaked =
[17:54] <ActionParsnip> thanks :D
[17:54] <X-Sleepy-X> thanks
[17:55] <phil_in_london> warpool, well, it won't hurt you to have that up there for future, for now you could always just type alsamixer in a terminal window, make sure the Master Volume is all the way up.
[17:55] <egoleo> hello anyone running perl as an apache module?
[17:55] <guntbert> phreaked: stop that please
[17:55] <egoleo> i am getting ou don't have permission to access
[17:56] <warpool> it is all the way up. is there a way to even just reset it back to normal
[17:56] <warpool> i just hit default and am hoping that works
[17:56] <phil_in_london> warpool, does it show you the proper sound card?
[17:56] <Jamesgamer_linux> Hey everyone: I'm trying to update wine. I've found instructions about "ppa" and "deb ...." are these both necessary, or has the ppa method replaced the deb method?
[17:57] <Dr_Willis> Jamesgamer_linux:  ppa's use the deb package manager... so.. neither. :)
[17:57] <magicianlord> is there a way to properly set the permissions to a formatted ext sdcard that allows users to read and write to it, besides root? using chmod 777 does not accomplish this. only clicking on properties through file manager as root and changing to user as read and write group does so. what is the major malfunction here?
[17:57] <magicianlord> ext2
[17:57] <phil_in_london> magicianlord   a+rwrwrw  blahblahlbha
[17:57] <magicianlord> wut
[17:57] <phil_in_london> chmod a+rwrwrw that is.
[17:57] <Dr_Willis> !ppa
[17:57] <magicianlord> chmod a+rw?
[17:57] <magicianlord> ok
[17:57] <Jamesgamer_linux> Dr_Willis: Uh... so how do I update wine?
[17:57] <phil_in_london> add readwrite, do it 3 times so all can read write.
[17:58] <glaucous> Do anyone know a good application to monitor disk activity with?
[17:58] <phil_in_london> chmod a+rwrwrw  myfolder
[17:58] <shaolinux> hi all i've just added a new ethernet interface on my pc. how can i make it work using ubuntu 10.04 ?
[17:58] <nikkita> dr_willis
[17:58] <nikkita> if i use ubntu i cant get ddos'd right
[17:58] <sunson> glaucous: depends. for your own use: gnome system monitor or whatever; for production use, iostat, sar, collectd, etc.,
[17:58] <phil_in_london> shaolinux, in a terminal does ifconfig show this new interface?
[17:59] <IdleOne> nikkita: not right
[17:59] <Dr_Willis> Jamesgamer_linux:  add the reposistory for the one you want to use,  like the winehq docs say.. and  install it, and it will update as their repo is updated. a PPA is a 'special' repository you can say that any person can make
[17:59] <shaolinux> phil_in_london nope
[17:59] <norbi905> Ok so heres what I did.  I have a boot drive and another drive which is to be used as media.  I mounted the media drive by mount -a /dev/sda1 /mnt/hdd2 .  I created a folder called shared on /mnt/hdd2 .  Now how do I actually share this folder so windows can see it?  I have no gui installed on ubuntu server, so this would have to be command line :(
[17:59] <Dr_Willis> Jamesgamer_linux:  theres proberly several wine 'variants' that have PPA's  but those are not the winehq wine reposiutory
[17:59] <ActionParsnip> shaolinux: if you run:   sudo lshw -C network    you should see the interfaces available, you can then websearch to find guides using the product line
[17:59] <glaucous> sunson, gnome is probably enough, but it doesn't seem like gnome system monitor can do it?
[17:59] <sunson> nikkita: if I make myself cancer-proof, will I die if I get run over by a bus?
[18:00] <sunson> glaucous: a lot of apps can. best is to learn to help yourself by doing apt-cache search.
[18:00] <chibihogoshino> while downloading i get speeds around 1.4 meg a sec.  but, to maintain that speed i have to rmmod iwlagn and then modprobe iwlagn ..
[18:00] <nikkita> i want to stop getting ddos'd thats why i downloaded ubuntu
[18:00] <sunson> glaucous: ex: apt-cache search disk | grep -i monitor
[18:00] <Monkey_Dust> norbi905: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba
[18:00] <shaolinux> ActionParsnip the interface doesn't appear when in run lshw
[18:00] <IdleOne> nikkita: any device connected to the internet can be disconnected. Also this really isn't an Ubuntu support issue.
[18:00] <Dr_Willis> Jamesgamer_linux:  wine hq docs/download link shows the proper commands to add their ppa's  which is the same as adding their repo. :) a ppa is  personl repo. i guess is the right term.
[18:01] <glaucous> sunson, sounds good enough, will see if I find something
[18:01] <nikkita> idleone im asking about how to get my internet to work with ubuntu...
[18:01] <phil_in_london> shaolinux, does this device show up when doing an lspci ?
[18:01] <greppy> doesn't ppa = personal package archive?
[18:01] <egoleo> @phil_in_london where u referring to me
[18:01] <Dr_Willis> !ppa
[18:01] <IdleOne> nikkita: No, you are asking if Ubuntu will prevent you from being ddos. it won't, no OS will.
[18:02] <phil_in_london> egoleo, I have no idea who you are so that'd be a no.
[18:02] <nikkita> idle0ne i keep getting hit with a 6.4 mill botnet
[18:02] <egoleo> ok thanx
[18:02] <nikkita> every night so it was only a meer question
[18:02] <shaolinux> phil_in_london nope
[18:02] <IdleOne> nikkita: then I suggest you call your ISP.
[18:03] <phil_in_london> shaolinux, so your system isn't recognizing this device at any of the layers at all...sure its installed okay?
[18:03] <ActionParsnip> shaolinux: is the interface usb or internal?
[18:03] <chibihogoshino> is there a problem with the iwlagn driver for intel wifi cards ?
[18:03] <sunson> nikkita: master iptables. that's the only way you can be absolutely sure.
[18:04] <intrader> Is this the appropriate place for printing problems of 10.10RC? The printer is found, and starts, but the pages output are blank. On 10.04, the same printer works fine.
[18:04] <shaolinux> phil_in_london yes it is correctly installed... it seems ubuntu only recognizes the card plugged to the Internet during install and no other... ActionParsnip internal pci
[18:05] <ActionParsnip> !10.10 | intrader
[18:05] <donvito2> webcam in ubuntu sucks
[18:05] <donvito2> :)
[18:06] <Dr_Willis> donvito2:  web cam manafactures support of linux sucks.  Is more accurate
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> shaolinux: then run:   lspci    and you should see it there, you can find guides
[18:06] <phil_in_london> shaolinux, and what happens if you temporarily disable your current interface, and reboot...does it see it then?
[18:06] <Dr_Willis> donvito2:  my 5 webcams i have - all have worked fine in linux..  Even my PS2 eyetoy works.
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> donvito2: depends on the chip it uses
[18:06] <donvito2> i understand
[18:06] <shaolinux> phil_in_london nope
[18:06] <phil_in_london> its crap
[18:06] <phil_in_london> :)
[18:06] <Jamesgamer_linux> Dr_Willis: http://www.winehq.org/download/deb is correct link?
[18:07] <shaolinux> :)
[18:07] <Dr_Willis> Most of the linux webcam drivers in linux. I think are done by like one man, or a small group of people.
[18:07] <donvito2> were can i get list of supported webcams
[18:07] <IdleOne> most if not all webcams under $30 work fine in linux
[18:07] <Nattgew> how can I change my ubuntu one music account settings?
[18:07] <Dr_Willis> Jamesgamer_linux:  does it mention the ppa command --> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-wine/ppa
[18:07] <felixsulla> How do I remove a program (JungleDisk) that doesnt show up in Synaptic?
[18:07] <Dr_Willis> !webcam
[18:07] <Jamesgamer_linux> Dr_Willis: yes
[18:07] <Dr_Willis> felixsulla:  how did you install it..
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> donvito2: if you check for compatibility rather than just buying the prettiest one or the cheapest onem you'll have more joy
[18:08] <felixsulla> Dr_Willis: An archive, I think
[18:08] <Dr_Willis> Jamesgamer_linux:  that the command i just used to set up  the winehq ppa, and am now installing wine.
[18:08] <felixsulla> There has to be a way to uninstall a program that doesn't show up in Synaptic Package Manager?
[18:08] <Dr_Willis> felixsulla:  if you used 'sudo make install' to install it.. then you need the source and it MIGHT have a 'sudo make uninstall' feature
[18:08] <Dr_Willis> felixsulla:  it totally depends on the program and exactly HOW you installed it.
[18:09] <Dr_Willis> felixsulla:  theres always the 'find the binaries it installed and delete them' way.. but thats a little annoying
[18:09] <wildc4rd> evenin' all
[18:09] <ActionParsnip> felixsulla: depends how you installed it, if you didnt use a deb, it wont have registered in synaptic
[18:10] <shaolinux> phil_in_london i'm thinking about reinstalling with a pc plugged to the second interface but i would really appreciate not having to do so, there should be a way to detect new hardware :|
[18:10] <ActionParsnip> felixsulla: there is a way, we just need to know how you installed it, you have been asked but havent told us yet and we cant help you until you fill us in
[18:10] <phil_in_london> shaolinux, there is a way, lspci is given the information from your mainboard (as long as the device is compatible).
[18:10] <felixsulla> ActionParsnip: It has been about a year since I installed it, so I dont really remember.
[18:11] <phil_in_london> shaolinux, then your ifconfig would show you an eth1 device if lspci was able to find a device.
[18:11] <ActionParsnip> felixsulla: if you run:   dpkg -l | grep -i jung     does it show up?
[18:11] <makis30> how to create a .deb packages???
[18:11] <phil_in_london> shaolinux, I've never had to do anything except plug the interfaces in...they have so far all been discovered and setup and working right away.
[18:11] <guntbert> Nattgew: ask in #ubuntuone
[18:11] <felixsulla> ActionParsnip: It doesnt.. but it starts on bootup
[18:12] <shaolinux> phil_in_london i'll try a different pci then, thx for the info
[18:12] <phil_in_london> shaolinux, start with lspci, if its not there, no use looking elsewhere.
[18:12] <felixsulla> find -i jung
[18:13] <neriukas> help !! Haw to install deb files from one folder?
[18:13] <neriukas> all files
[18:13] <makis30> how to create .deb packages??
[18:13] <Robert___> Hi. Total newcomer here. Can I install both Ubuntu and Win7 on a mac with Boot Camp, or only one of them?
[18:13] <shaolinux> phil_in_london how do i get it running once i find it listed in lspci ?
[18:14] <IdleOne> !packaging > makis30
[18:14] <phil_in_london> shaolinux, when you see it there check with ifconfig, if you see eth1 there, then you are ready to go. Of course you'll need to make sure that its ip address does not conflict with the ip address of your current device, but thats about all you need to manage yourself.
[18:14] <neriukas>  help !! Haw to install all deb files from one folder?
[18:15] <ManDay> Hello say, just a test : Do you guys also see questionmarks all over kernel.org - like HERE http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/libs/pam/Linux-PAM-html/mwg-expected-by-module-item.html <<<< ???
[18:15] <shaolinux> phil_in_london can it be i see it with lspci and _not_ with ifconfig ?
[18:15] <greppy> neriukas: in that folder, in a terminal, for i in *.deb;do sudo dpkg -i $i;done
[18:15] <IdleOne> neriukas: cd /folder/with/debs   then dpkg -i *.deb
[18:15] <egoleo> hello what does it mean by this Options ExecCGI is off in this directory: /var/www/cyborg/cgi-bin/cyborg.pl and how do i enable it
[18:15] <pankaj_sharma> can anybody tell me how to come out of tty termianl (checked all combination f7to f8) but no result..
[18:15] <pankaj_sharma> ??
[18:15] <cool-aide> does anyone encountered the bugs from network sharing? i just did right now.... :(
[18:15] <neriukas> thanks :)
[18:16] <phil_in_london> shaolinux, its possible, if perhaps the drivers aren't fully compatible, but its pretty unlikely.
[18:16] <shaolinux> phil_in_london ok thx
[18:16] <guntbert> installing with a preseed file: most settings are followed by the installer - exception: the keyboard layout , where might be the error?
[18:18] <Dr_Willis> pankaj_sharma:  if X is running it should be on alt-ctrl-(f6 f7, or f8), or try the 'startx' command if X has crashed. or 'sudo service gdm restart'
[18:19] <IdleOne> guntbert: wouldn't that be another entry in the preseed file?
[18:19] <IdleOne> guntbert: #ubuntu-server might be a better place to ask
[18:19] <MyWay> does somebody know if the Asus Xonar DG works under ubuntu? Or any cheap soundcard with internal spdif for hdmi
[18:19] <Dr_Willis> !hwl
[18:19] <pankaj_sharma> Dr_Willis: ok, i will give a shot
[18:19] <Dr_Willis> !hardware
[18:19] <guntbert> IdleOne: ok, will do :-)
[18:20] <Dr_Willis> MyWay:  You may want to check the 'alsa' homepage to see how well the card is supported also
[18:20] <MyWay> ok Dr_Willis, thank you
[18:20] <MyWay> i see only 2 asus here, it this possible? :O https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsSoundCardsAsus
[18:21] <Dr_Willis> MyWay:  its more of a matter of the chipset the cards are using, then the manafacturer
[18:22] <MyWay> Dr_Willis: i need one economic soundcard with spdif to connect hdmi spdif, do you know one?
[18:22] <ActionParsnip> MyWay: also make sure you have latest alsa can help
[18:22] <eric> salut
[18:23] <Monkey_Dust> !fr|eric
[18:23] <Dr_Willis> MyWay:  no idea on spdif/hdmi stuff..  last card i bought was a $25 creative that worked fine.
[18:23] <donvito2> how can i see what kind of webcam i have i think it was command for terminal to see
[18:23] <MAAAAAD> can somebody recommend a high performance wireless card?
[18:23] <MyWay> ok Dr_Willis
[18:23] <ActionParsnip> donvito2: lsusb   will show the chip
[18:23] <ActionParsnip> MAAAAAD: one which supports 8.0.11n will be quick
[18:24] <donvito2> ok my webcam is Microdia  PC Camera  SN9C120
[18:24] <donvito2> how to install drivers?
[18:24] <Guest85811> I have an alfa awus036nh wife adapter and I am having trouble getting the module to load
[18:25] <Guest85811> dmesg says disagress about version sumbol module layout
[18:25] <Guest85811> google tells that it could be a problem with wrong kernel version but when I compile it says it using the one from uname -r
[18:25] <nikkita> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install usb-modeswitch
[18:26] <A_New_Server> What's a good WYSIWYG editor for Ubuntu?
[18:26] <nikkita> this will help
[18:26] <A_New_Server> (web design)
[18:26] <ActionParsnip> donvito2: you need the latest gspca and blacklist sn9c120
[18:26] <alloosh> hi, when I press the keys "windows + n" the screen I am working in becomes black, what is the advantage of that? or lets say what is that in general?
[18:26] <ActionParsnip> donvito2: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeWebCams
[18:26] <ActionParsnip> MAAAAAD: intel chips are usually well supported
[18:27] <Dr_Willis> alloosh:  thats the COMPIZ key binding for 'invert colors' here it seems...
[18:27] <ActionParsnip> A_New_Server: bluefish is one I can think of
[18:27] <Dr_Willis> alloosh:  which is often used by people with low/poor vision depending on the progerams they are seeing
[18:27] <A_New_Server> Alright, thanks :]
[18:27] <ActionParsnip> A_New_Server: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=256604
[18:27] <Guest85811> @nikita was that directed at me?
[18:27] <MAAAAAD> ActionParsnip: I am looking for a chip that can handle a couple of wifi-clients without performance loss and at a very low latency
[18:28] <nikkita> yes guest85811
[18:28] <Dr_Willis> alloosh:  actually its the 'negative' plugin.. :)  not invert colors..
[18:28] <pk4r> Are there any plans to make Unity (Netbook interface) portable so that it can be used by non-Ubuntu distributions ? Correct me if it already is, though I've seen some posts that it's "Ubuntu only"...
[18:28] <Guest85811> @nikite: what will that do?
[18:28] <alloosh> Dr_Willis: well, I reached that by accident while looking for a method to play around with my display, because I am getting troubles looking at the bright screen, any advice?
[18:28] <ActionParsnip> MAAAAAD: i'd shoot for one with an N interface, its fast :)
[18:29] <ActionParsnip> MAAAAAD: i'd read a few reviews
[18:29] <A_New_Server> Also, how do I get my number pad to work on Ubuntu? I installed Guest Additions I'm sure but it's still not working
[18:29] <A_New_Server> or would that be a question for a VirtualBox channel?
[18:29] <Dr_Willis> alloosh:  Theres compiz plugins to do all sorts of things.. My Nvidia card/nvidia-settings tool has color adjustments also.
[18:29] <ActionParsnip> A_New_Server: if you run: xev   then press the keys, do they make events?
[18:29] <Dr_Willis> bbl. gotta run to da store.
[18:29] <gos> Hi, I want to know if using ubuntu more protection NAT router,   is enough security for a home computer?
[18:29] <A_New_Server> Ooh that's neat, yes they do
[18:29] <alloosh> :) will check
[18:30] <h1tler> brb killing jews
[18:30] <MenZa> Hey guys, I have a server which doesn't appear to be connecting to the internet. When I restart networking, it seems to accept a DHCP IP, but I can't connect out, or in through ping, ssh, or any other means. Help? :\
[18:30] <LjL> nikkita: really not funny
[18:30] <A_New_Server> BUT, they work actually, like they work as arrows in ubuntu but not as the numbers
[18:30] <LjL> MenZa: !!
[18:30] <MenZa> LjL: ??
[18:30] <MenZa> :p
[18:31] <LjL> boo :(
[18:31] <LjL> lhavelund: maybe it doesn't set the correct default gateway for some reason?
[18:31] <A_New_Server> Well, sometimes they do.
[18:31] <lhavelund> LjL: Enlighten me.
[18:31] <droopal> Earlier on I asked about a problem I was having in understanding why wasnt installing, I didnt know what it was, but somebody here said that it was something to do with a server running on my pc, so I uninstalled it.
[18:32] <ActionParsnip> A_New_Server: that's good, i'd check your keyboard layout, i'd also ask in #vbox too
[18:32] <droopal> That is ok, but since installing 10.04 I've not been able to Network any of my computers, and was wondering does pound have anything to do with networking?
[18:32]  * josef-fritzl brb dungeon
[18:32] <A_New_Server> Alright mate :]
[18:32] <lhavelund> !ops | nikkita (Repeat offense)
[18:32] <LjL> lhavelund: i probably have no clue... but try "route" and see if its router's IP is there
[18:33] <lhavelund> LjL: 'Gateway' is simply listed as "*"
[18:33] <lhavelund> hmm, strange. I have two lines, one ssays Destination -> 7 8.46.20.128, Gateway *, Genmask 255.255.255.192
[18:34] <lhavelund> The other says Destionation => default, Gateway is 78.46.20.129, Genmask is 0.0.0.0.
[18:34] <LjL> lhavelund: the one saying default is the one that matters, but i don't know what the other one is
[18:34] <droopal> is there something wrong with this channel?
[18:34] <lhavelund> LjL: it's quite strange; it seems to drop network connection randomly.
[18:34] <daniela78> droopal: I don't think so!
[18:35] <LjL> lhavelund: is that your actual router anyway? it's a strange ip...
[18:35] <lhavelund> LjL: the server's in a data center.
[18:35] <droopal> I dont use iRC much, but I'm getting loads of stuff I have no idea about showing,
[18:35] <Xtreme> hello
[18:35] <lhavelund> it's a hyper-v vm. the host's IP address is 78.46.20.138.
[18:36] <guntbert> droopal: you can tell your client to hide the join/part messages
[18:36] <LjL> lhavelund: well see if you can at least ping 78.46.20.129
[18:36] <zulax> i plugged in my guitar to my machine, looks like the input is working
[18:36] <zulax> but i cant hear the output
[18:36] <droopal> would you have any idea if pound not installing would cause a problem with Network,.
[18:36] <droopal> guntbert: how do I do that?
[18:36] <lhavelund> LjL: no issues there.
[18:36] <guntbert> droopal: what client do you use?
[18:36] <droopal> XChat
[18:36] <lhavelund> my VM's IP seems to be 78.46.20.184, if I am to believe byobu, though.
[18:37] <lhavelund> ifconfig agrees with that, LjL  ^
[18:37] <[thor]> droopal: right-click the channel button, and select  Settings --> Hide Join/Part Messages
[18:37] <guntbert> droopal: right click on the channel tab, select settings....
[18:38] <droopal> got it, thank you. :)
[18:38] <droopal> wow, that has made a difference
[18:38] <droopal> not so much green any more
[18:39] <guntbert> !enter | droopal
[18:40] <Eighteens> my question is about pulseaudio, if i remove it as a start up application/driver will the system default back to the older driver that it was using before the last update, the sound was way better before i updated
[18:40] <daniela78> droopal: I like green, should be more green places on earth ;)
[18:40] <Guest85811> so I tried the usb-modeswitch and no good
[18:40] <LjL> lhavelund: i assume you have tried pinging other IPs (as opposed to hostnames)
[18:40] <Rotham> hey
[18:40] <lhavelund> LjL: I have not, but I can certainly try that.
[18:40] <LjL> lhavelund: 72.14.234.104 is google
[18:40] <lhavelund> LjL: no dice.
[18:41] <Rotham> what do I have to do to get "apt-get install xchat" to work
[18:41] <Rotham> its telling me "package not found"
[18:41] <lhavelund> I tried pinging this server I'm on now, and it's unreachable.
[18:41] <guntbert> droopal: for your original question: what is "pound" ?
[18:41] <kwork> Rotham apt-cache search xchat
[18:41] <Guest85811> I read the the description of the package and I don't think it was related to the issue I was having with the the module not loading
[18:41] <LjL> lhavelund: what about 78.46.20.128 (instead of 129, to see if internal addresses work, assming it's up)
[18:41] <LjL> lhavelund: and it's in the same network?
[18:41] <Guest85811> the dmesg: says disagrees about version of symbol module layout
[18:41] <[thor]> Rotham: the package is xchat-gnome
[18:42] <Rotham> that didnt work either
[18:42] <lhavelund> LjL: it says that's my broadcast address.
[18:42] <guntbert> Rotham: don't use xchat-gnome
[18:42] <lhavelund> LjL: looks like routing is fubared or something o_O
[18:42] <Rotham> i forgot Its a fresh ubuntu install and I didnt do apt-get update
[18:42] <droopal> When I came on here this morning, somebody said it was something to do with a server
[18:42] <Rotham> will see if that works :P
[18:42] <guntbert> [thor]: I don't recommend that - use xchat instead
[18:43] <droopal> and to uninstal it, which I did. But I am now wondering if it might have something to do with me not being able to connect my Network
[18:43] <LjL> lhavelund: uh uhm i'm used to .255s being broadcast addresses, but what do i know :P
[18:43] <guntbert> Rotham: did you enable the universe repo?
[18:43] <Rotham> how do I do that?
[18:43] <lhavelund> LjL: presumably more than me. networking isn't my forté.
[18:43] <Rotham> I think ive done it before but i forgot the command
[18:43] <droopal> I noticed it, when Installing 10.10 last night, in the installation it said pound could not be installed.
[18:43] <lhavelund> !universe | Rotham
[18:44] <guntbert> !repos | Rotham
[18:44] <droopal> Pressing Ctrl+Alt+F8 this morning showed the error message
[18:44] <Rotham> thanks
[18:44] <LjL> lhavelund: is your own assigned ip anything similar to those 78 ones?
[18:45] <lhavelund> LjL: what, you mean the host?
[18:45] <lhavelund> LjL: the host is .138, the guest is .184 allegedly.
[18:45] <LjL> lhavelund: the server that's having trouble
[18:45] <droopal> Since Uninstalling, I no longer have that option of Ctrl+Alt+F8, its gone. Would anybody know how I can get my Network back.
[18:45] <ActionParsnip> droopal: 10.10 is discussed in #ubuntu+1
[18:45] <LjL> lhavelund: uh wait there's a VM involved?
[18:46] <lhavelund> LjL: I said at the beginning; it's a hyper-v vm :p
[18:46] <photocopy> Is it at all possible to make an hfs+ partition from ubuntu? gparted doesnt seem to support it.
[18:46] <lhavelund> !hfs | photocopy
[18:46] <droopal> but this isnt just a 10.10 problem its a problem I have had since installing 10.04.
[18:46] <meh3> anyone here runs ubuntu as a guestos in vmware?
[18:46] <sda> hiall! what is the channel for ubuntu 10.10?
[18:46] <lhavelund> !anyone | meh3
[18:46] <meh3> it doesnt want to go in fullscreen
[18:46] <A_New_Server> Are there any voice changers for Linux that will work with Skype?
[18:46] <photocopy> Ihavelund... no. read what i asked again
[18:46] <lhavelund> #ubuntu+1, sda :)
[18:46] <A_New_Server> for ubuntu*
[18:46] <lhavelund> photocopy: yes. read up on the docs; there should be a fuse-driver you'll need to install first.
[18:46] <thanis> Wine can't run installed .exe file what is the problem ?
[18:46] <droopal> I was also wondering if pound had something to do with it, as somebody on here said this morning that pound was something to do with a server
[18:46] <pankaj_sharma> ActionParsnip:#ubuntu+1 will get merge with this forum from 10/10/10
[18:47] <photocopy> lhavelund: I didn't ask about reading or writing to HFS+
[18:47] <ActionParsnip> droopal: do you md5 test the iso you downloaded?
[18:47] <meh3> im running vmware workstation and ubuntu 10.04 as a guestos, i installed the vmware tools but i cant get it to go to full screen
[18:47] <[thor]> thanis: go to #winehq to ask questions about the Wine system
[18:47] <lhavelund> photocopy: creating one = writing.
[18:47] <thanis> thank you
[18:47] <ActionParsnip> pankaj_sharma: i am aware, but its not 10/10/10 yet is it?
[18:47] <photocopy> okay, well lhavelund, I don't understand anything on that page...
[18:47] <droopal> ActionParsnip: I have no idea what you are talking about. I installed it from the Update Manager
[18:47] <pankaj_sharma> ActionParsnip: yup
[18:48] <ActionParsnip> pankaj_sharma: then maverick is offtopic and should be discussed there
[18:48] <LjL> lhavelund: sorry i missed it :( anyway i hardly have a clue. if that's your ip, then presumably the gateway's address is correct as well, and the fact that 128 is the broadcast is merely due to the weird netmask i assume
[18:48] <droopal> That is how I have done it all the time.
[18:48] <ActionParsnip> droopal: if you got the issue with lucid, when you installed lucid did you md5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[18:48] <lhavelund> !info hfsutils | photocopy (you probably want this)
[18:49] <droopal> ActionParsnip: Dont know what that means, as I just said always downloaded from the Update Manager
[18:49] <lhavelund> LjL: yeah... I really don't get why it's doing this.
[18:49] <sda> Ciao a tutti, question: I have some problem with ubuntu, now I'm running 10.04, I start with the most important: My Svideo is a Ati X1700, I need it works in powersafe mode, I don't need it uses all this energy especially with battery. I know the solution is inside Kernel 2.6.35 so I put it on my pc, how can I check my Svideo status??
[18:49] <ActionParsnip> droopal: the first install you did of ubuntu will have been done with an ISO file (or img file)
[18:50] <girlgreek> who loves downloand movies?
[18:50] <ActionParsnip> droopal: you can't install ubuntu by just using update manager, you need to install a miimal OS at the very least
[18:50] <girlgreek> who loves downloand movies?
[18:50] <droopal> It was installed for me, by somebody, I ahd no idea how to use Ubuntu then.
[18:50] <ActionParsnip> !ot  | girlgreek
[18:50] <droopal> It worked ok with 9.04, I had no problems with the Network then.
[18:50] <ActionParsnip> droopal: you said you got the error when you installed lucid....
[18:51] <LjL> lhavelund: well, i'd pester Seveas if i were you... and just in case you were afraid to highlight me, here's me doing it for you :D
[18:51] <droopal> As I just said, I installed Lucid from the Update manager
[18:51] <girlgreek> who loves parties?
[18:51] <LjL> girlgreek: still !ot
[18:51] <lhavelund> LjL: bahaha. I'd assume dennis is having a night out with his banhammer.
[18:51] <lhavelund> or his cluebat.
[18:51] <droopal> I installed Maverick from the Update manager too.
[18:51] <droopal> last night
[18:52] <ActionParsnip> droopal: then your OS is supported in #ubuntu+1
[18:52] <droopal> ok, thank you.
[18:53] <girlgreek> what kind of chat room is here?
[18:53] <Rotham> where can I find firefox's plugins folder?
[18:53] <guntbert> girlgreek: this is the ubuntu support channel
[18:53] <Rotham> girlgreek: this is where all the football jocks hang out.
[18:53] <guntbert> Rotham: please don't
[18:54] <Rotham> sorry ;p
[18:54] <ActionParsnip> just put him/her on ignore, problem solved
[18:55] <guntbert> ActionParsnip: ??
[18:55] <ActionParsnip> guntbert: the girlgreek user, just put them on ignore
[18:56] <dwarder> how can i make all my other ext4 partition mounted on boot, or on my login?
[18:56] <dwarder> partitions*
[18:58] <guntbert> dwarder: you have to edit /etc/fstab appropriately
[18:59] <cool-aide> is there any application that can record videos from the web? like youtube or any site? like real player sp?
[18:59] <dwarder> guntbert: http://pastebin.com/jpG6aEyS
[19:00] <dwarder> guntbert: will sda1 mouten like i want?
[19:00] <dwarder> guntbert: will sda1 be mounted like i want?
[19:00] <snipe> there is a program i use on my windows box called video get that records from youtube
[19:00] <Mixxit> what's the default postgres password on karmic
[19:01] <sda> can someone help me with my videocard power status? (ati)
[19:02] <guntbert> dwarder: for someone to help you they will need the output of mount and the content of /etc/fstab too - but I'm away for some time so better ask the channel again
[19:03] <dwarder> guntbert: ok thank you
[19:03] <snipe> is there any danger in exploring the c drive on a dual boot machine to copy docs or pics to my linux install
[19:03] <jaxdahl> what is the equivalent of '/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts' on ubuntu?
[19:09] <ActionParsnip> cool-aide: youtube-dl
[19:09] <Tecan> http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/6343/screenshotuou.png
[19:12] <bihari_> mark-i
[19:12] <bihari_> ?
[19:12] <bihari_> mark-a,  hi
[19:13] <basix-> when files are installed using ubuntu software center, is there a directory that they all go into or is there a way to figure out the path?
[19:13] <AbhiJit> basix-, /apt/cache/archieve
[19:13] <basix-> thanks AbhiJit
[19:13] <Tecan> Bender Dendat
[19:14] <AbhiJit> /var/cache/apt/archives basix-
[19:14] <basix-> k
[19:14] <emanu> hey, so if I want to install ubuntu on my macbook, do I need 32 or 64 bit?
[19:14] <AbhiJit> emanu, depends on your cpu
[19:15] <emanu> how do I know?
[19:15] <basix-> this is the folder with the .deb installer package, how about after it is installed?
[19:15] <AbhiJit> emanu, http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-how-to-find-if-processor-is-64-bit-or-not/
[19:15] <AbhiJit> basix-, each program has different path then. mostly /usr/bin or something like that
[19:15] <AbhiJit> basix-, you can search it with whereis vim
[19:15] <AbhiJit> that was e.g.
[19:16] <basix-> ok
[19:16] <basix-> thanks :)
[19:16] <AbhiJit> basix-, welcome
[19:16] <emanu> AbhiJit: but I'm using osx
[19:16] <AbhiJit> emanu, :(
[19:16] <emanu> AbhiJit: uname -a gives : "Darwin mybook.local 10.4.0 Darwin Kernel Version 10.4.0: Fri Apr 23 18:28:53 PDT 2010; root:xnu-1504.7.4~1/RELEASE_I386 i386 i386"
[19:16] <kjcole> Skype video appears to broadcast me for a few minutes, and then craps out. Unable to restart the video without rebooting.  Any ideas?  (Lucid and Skype beta.)
[19:17] <AbhiJit> emanu, do you have ubuntu live cd?
[19:17] <bihari_> emanu i think 64 bit
[19:17] <AbhiJit> emanu, try ask in #mac
[19:17] <AbhiJit> bihari_, no
[19:17] <AbhiJit> bihari_, its the os version and that too 32 bit we need cpu version
[19:17] <AbhiJit> i mean bit
[19:17] <bihari_> oic
[19:18] <avis> anyone know of a simple script to clean up desktop clutter ?
[19:18] <plovs> emanu how much memory do you have?
[19:18] <bihari_> emnu this post will help ful to you http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-579707.html
[19:18] <AbhiJit> emanu, once you figured it out and if your cpu is 64 bit then go for 64bit ubuntu
[19:18] <avis> is 64 bit adoptable ?
[19:19] <AbhiJit> !64 | avinashhm
[19:19] <AbhiJit> :(
[19:19] <gk1990>                           hey i face this prob now .. ubuntu power management is nt workin properly in ma laptop
[19:19] <AbhiJit> avis, ^^ see above link
[19:19] <gk1990> 		it shows 90% charge remainin...but in few secs it says 1% remainin n shuts down
[19:19] <gk1990> 		is dat prob is abt usin ubuntu in laptop ??
[19:19] <kollapse> Hi. Does anyone know a program that can merge a subtitle onto a video file ?
[19:19] <Scottie1> Is there any way to remove an OS from an external hd and simply set it back to a storage device?
[19:20] <kjcole> And if I start cheese, it finds the video and holds it
[19:20] <Scottie1> Hm...where's all the help today?
[19:20] <AbhiJit> !weekend
[19:20] <Izinucs> Scottie1: yes.. delete the partition.. remove the boot flag and reformat to the filesys type you want
[19:21] <Scottie1> lzinucs: I'm not sure how to do that, and I don't want an OS on it at all.
[19:21] <misk21> Can someone suggest me an application to associating the application for filetypes ?
[19:21] <Izinucs> Scottie1: look in System>Admin>Partition manager .. that's the tool that will take care of it.
[19:22] <bihari_> kollapse, http://wiki.showmedo.com/index.php/Video_editing_Ubuntu try this
[19:22] <Scottie1> lzinucs: I don't have that.
[19:22] <emanu> plovs: 4 gigs
[19:22] <Izinucs> Scottie1: then in synaptic package manager search for gparted and install that or from terminal with sudo apt-get install gparted
[19:22] <kollapse> bihari_: Thanks.
[19:23] <minorursa> I'm having trouble with a live 10.04 CD. CD is OK, but system is unable to mount filesystem.squashfs. Is this the right channel, or can someone provide the name of the right one?
[19:23] <ActionParsnip> minorursa: sure ask in here for lucid, did you check the cd for defects once booted to?
[19:24] <li_> hello
[19:24] <ActionParsnip> hi li_
[19:24] <li_> I want to use this page but I cant see the chess board
[19:24] <Scottie1> lzinucs: Alright, now go look for that thing you mentioned?
[19:24] <li_> http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1594902
[19:24] <Izinucs> Scottie1: yep
[19:24] <plovs> emanu you might try linux in virtualbox
[19:24] <li_> what plugin I need?
[19:24] <minorursa> OK, problem is with lucid. CD seems to be OK, since there are no messages from check, and it mounts properly and can be read by Heron.
[19:24] <Scottie1> lzinucs: Still no =/
[19:25] <Scottie1> lzinucs: Wait, I have gparted. Click that?
[19:25] <minorursa> problem seems to be that system has mount /cdrom on  a partition of my hard drive.
[19:25] <ActionParsnip> minorursa: did you press space when you saw the stickman screen and select "Check CD for defects"?
[19:25] <Izinucs> Scottie1: that might be a gnome thing.. just not showing up on the menu yet.. open a terminal and type .. gksudo gparted .. and it should load
[19:25] <li_> ?
[19:25] <D^mien> Hello everyone
[19:25] <Izinucs> Scottie1: yes
[19:25] <minorursa> I got through the disk check.
[19:25] <coz_> li_,   you need sun java
[19:25] <D^mien> I've got a quick question, i'm trying to install xchat on my ubuntu installation
[19:25] <ActionParsnip> li_: do you have java installed?
[19:25] <RoguishRavager> can u guys get onto ubuntu-art.org?
[19:25] <li_> ActionParsnip: yeah
[19:26] <li_> ActionParsnip: I guess
[19:26] <Scottie1> lzinucs: It's open.
[19:26] <intrader> XCHar does not have print on 9.04 will try from web
[19:26] <D^mien> getting a requires installation of untrusted packages message and details say libsexy2 tcl xchat xchat-common
[19:26] <ActionParsnip> li_: if you go to http://www.java.com/en/download/help/testvm.xml    does it say you have java?
[19:26] <arjan> hat
[19:26] <D^mien> any ideas what that means?
[19:26] <Izinucs> RoguishRavager: nope
[19:27] <ActionParsnip> minorursa: does your ram test out ok?
[19:27] <coz_> D^mien,  what are you trying to do?
[19:27] <Izinucs> Scottie1: is the drive plugged in?  also my nick starts with a capital i
[19:27] <minorursa> yes. And the system runs fine with Heron.
[19:27] <D^mien> coz_: install xchat on ubuntu
[19:27] <Scottie1> Izinucs: My bad. Yes, the drive is in. It's what I'm running off of.
[19:27] <coz_> D^mien,    sudo apt-get install xchat   gives you that error?
[19:27] <D^mien> through the ubuntu software center
[19:27] <RoguishRavager> Izinucs: ah, good, so it's not just me
[19:27] <RoguishRavager> thanks
[19:28] <Izinucs> Scottie1: oh.. you're booted to the external drive you want to reformatt?
[19:28] <coz_> D^mien,  xchat should install with no problems  open a terminal    sudo apt-get install xchat
[19:28] <pankaj_sharma> D^mien: there is not software center
[19:28] <Scottie1> Izinucs: Yes...is that a problem?
[19:28] <LucasNeto> como registro meu nick?
[19:28] <coz_> D^mien,   if errors show up there they will be explained in more detail
[19:28] <Izinucs> Scottie1: yes..
[19:28] <li_> ActionParsnip: it seems that I dont have java but I did apt-get install sun-java-jre
[19:28] <ActionParsnip> li_: if the page says you dont have java, you dont have it configured right
[19:28] <LucasNeto> hy guys how can I register my nick nameå
[19:28] <Izinucs> Scottie1: do you have windows on the primary machine?
[19:28] <D^mien> details of error are libsexy2 tcl xchat xchat-common
[19:28] <LucasNeto> ?
[19:28] <ActionParsnip> li_: what browser are you using?
[19:28] <Scottie1> Izinucs: Alright, sorry. I just didn't want to wipe my computer and didn't know how to go about doing it. No, I have Ubuntu.
[19:29] <coz_> LucasNeto,   where you type here   /msg nickserv help
[19:29] <ActionParsnip> !register |  LucasNeto
[19:29] <LucasNeto> thanks coz_
[19:29] <Izinucs> Scottie1: ah.. then boot to that and use gparted from there.. I have to go so others will have to help.. good luck
[19:29] <Dini> anyone know how to set to default in nautilus the "double window or F3" ?
[19:29] <li_> ActionParsnip: firefox
[19:29] <Scottie1> Izinucs: Thanks.
[19:29] <li_> ActionParsnip: with KDE
[19:29] <intrader> Some dammed update to 9.04 got rid of printing - same problem as in 10.10. Rebooting 10.10
[19:29] <ActionParsnip> li_: what arch is your Kubuntu?
[19:30] <li_> ActionParsnip: how I find out that?
[19:30] <li_> ActionParsnip: this laptop is not mine
[19:30] <ActionParsnip> li_: whats the output of: uname -m
[19:30] <bihari_> dini try this it will migght helpfull to you http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1152101
[19:30] <bihari_> dini try this it will might helpfull to you http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1152101
[19:30] <li_> ActionParsnip: i686
[19:31] <Dini> thanks bihari_
[19:31] <li_> ActionParsnip: I got this working in on my own laptop with gentoo, I dont know what is happening
[19:31] <ActionParsnip> li_: ok it's 32bit
[19:31] <li_> ActionParsnip: my gentoo is 64 bits and I have to use chromium for to use java
[19:31] <li_> ActionParsnip: get java working I mean
[19:33] <ActionParsnip> li_: if you rn: mkdir ~/.mozilla/plugins; cd ~/.mozilla/plugins; ln -s /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libjavaplugin.so
[19:33] <ActionParsnip> li_: then rerun mozilla (close all instances) does it work?
[19:34] <D^mien> okay, so hell with the software center, i went to xchat website and downloaded, extracted files, but now what?! any help is greatly appreciated. i'm very new to linux
[19:34] <hidekazu> ubuntu is evil
[19:34] <D^mien> i agree
[19:34] <D^mien> but its also the best platform for newbs
[19:34] <D^mien> am i correct?
[19:34] <markvandenborre> I have an audio cd drive platform
[19:34] <li_> ActionParsnip: give me the command again
[19:34] <markvandenborre> an audio cd problem even
[19:34] <coz_> D^mien,   just open a terminal
[19:34] <li_> ActionParsnip: the windows is goin so fast
[19:35] <coz_> D^mien,   sudo apt-get install xchat
[19:35] <ActionParsnip> li_: here are all the .so files with java in them on my 32bit laptop: http://pastebin.com/yySNtZeh
[19:35] <li_> ActionParsnip: forget it I got it
[19:35] <ActionParsnip> li_: make sure yours is similar
[19:35] <markvandenborre> I can't get my machine to open an audio cd
[19:35] <markvandenborre> it won't automount
[19:35] <gsm_user> hi
[19:36] <markvandenborre> dmesg says stuff about I/O errors
[19:36] <D^mien> coz_: terminal allowed me to proceed with installation without authentication which is where software center was stoping installatino
[19:36] <ActionParsnip> markvandenborre: you dont have to mount audio cds, you can open them from vlc under "open disk"
[19:36] <D^mien> installed, thanks for the help
[19:36] <markvandenborre> ah, JanC
[19:36] <coz_> D^mien,  and did you use   sudo apt-get install xchat
[19:36] <li_> ActionParsnip: I did the symlik I will restart firefox
[19:36] <D^mien> yes :D
[19:36] <coz_> D^mien,  ok and did it install
[19:36] <markvandenborre> ActionParsnip: thanks for your concern, but the problem is at a lower level than that
[19:36] <D^mien> i believe so
[19:36] <LucasNeto> how can I join other channel?
[19:36] <D^mien> yes it installed
[19:36] <coz_> D^mien,  ok cool   then it should be under  Applications / Internet
[19:36] <D^mien> thanks coz_
[19:37] <markvandenborre> JanC: good morning!
[19:37] <coz_> D^mien,  no problem  much easier and much nicer than software center
[19:37] <li_> ActionParsnip: it doesnt work I still cannot see the games on chessgames.com
[19:37] <ActionParsnip> li_: you just need the right file linked into that folder
[19:38] <li_> ActionParsnip: it doesnt work I still cannot see the games on chessgames.com
[19:38] <Spt> i need to create a livecd of linux for formating my drives. i tried both x86 and x64 cds but they doesnt support i686
[19:38] <karma_police> i'm installing ubuntu and want to have a separate /home partition.. what are the best steps to accomplishing this?
[19:38] <anon33_> does 10.04 work well as 64-bit on the macbook pro's (5-5)?
[19:38] <li_> ActionParsnip: and the java test still says I have no java
[19:38] <anon33_> just wondering since it's an intel processor and when i downloaded it it says amd something...
[19:38] <trond-> karma_police, set it up as a separate partition during setup... it's pretty straight forward. I do the same
[19:39] <JanC> markvandenborre: ☺
[19:39] <JanC> good morning too  ;)
[19:39] <Spt> i need to create a livecd of linux for formating my drives. i tried both x86 and x64 cds but they doesnt support i686
[19:39] <markvandenborre> JanC: looking at an audio cd problem
[19:40] <cypher> русские
[19:40] <blakkheim> Spt: x86 is i686
[19:40]  * D^mien just now noticed he was given crap for using ubuntu for linix platform in #ubuntu
[19:40] <D^mien> good 1 :)
[19:40] <Guest25176> русские
[19:40] <JanC> markvandenborre: still the CD players in the school?
[19:40] <markvandenborre> it looks like I have these $!*! intel 8xx machines under control now
[19:40] <markvandenborre> when it comes to video
[19:41] <Guest25176> русские
[19:41] <Guest25176> русские
[19:41] <anon33_> does 10.04 work well as 64-bit on the macbook pro's (5-5)?
[19:41] <FloodBot1> Guest25176: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:41] <markvandenborre> I downgraded the kernel to a karmic one
[19:41] <Spt> oh, but it doesnt boot the x86 livecd
[19:41] <markvandenborre> but the cd thingie is getting worse, or so it seems
[19:41] <JanC> markvandenborre: did you try installing cdrtools ?
[19:42] <Guest25176> русские
[19:42] <markvandenborre> it seems to be at the kernel level
[19:42] <Spt> thnks by the way
[19:42] <Guest25176> русские
[19:42] <Guest25176> русские
[19:42] <markvandenborre> I get lots of funky stuff in dmesg
[19:42] <Guest25176> русские
[19:42] <FloodBot1> Guest25176: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:43] <markvandenborre> JanC: I'm on 2.6.31 right now
[19:43] <JanC> Guest25176: /join #ubuntu-ru
[19:43] <markvandenborre> and things seem to be more or less stable (at least I hope)
[19:43] <markvandenborre> I've played with 2.6.34, but that didn't seem to do a lot of good
[19:44] <markvandenborre> and now for some reason, I don't seem to have decent audio capability anymore
[19:44] <uLinux> How can I unmount a drive that is not mounted? I use gmount-iso
[19:44] <uLinux> used
[19:44] <markvandenborre> could that have something to do with ureadahead, or other specific patches?
[19:44] <uLinux> Error mounting: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop0
[19:44] <markvandenborre> (the problem looks worse than with the original lucid kernel)
[19:44] <markvandenborre> JanC: any thoughts?
[19:46] <karma_police> ok.. i sinstalled ubuntu with a separate /home partition... i reinstalled just to test and see if it worked... it shows up as a separate partition but its not the /home.. what did i do wrong?
[19:46] <karma_police> *installed
[19:46] <markvandenborre> JanC: I can coerce cdrdao into ripping it, but _very_ shaky
[19:46] <mmaksimov> Hi all. Is there an easy way to edit the labels shown in the grub menu? I mean, if there are several different *buntu flavors installed including betas it is really annoying to remember which combination of kernel + /dev/sdaN means which system :(
[19:46] <JanC> markvandenborre: I have no idea about patches, but like I said, try cdrtools if you have cd drive trouble  ;)
[19:46] <markvandenborre> very slow, with lots of errors
[19:47] <cool-aide> is there any new updates for 10.04?
[19:47] <markvandenborre> could you elaborate on that again?
[19:47] <xerox1> are there any backports for tex live for 9.04? i didn't find any on packages.ubuntu.com
[19:48] <Soupahgrheane44> hos sua tays shueh
[19:48] <karma_police> i have ubuntu installed with a separate /home partition.. what steps do i need to take when doing a fresh install to keep the old /home partition?
[19:49] <Soupahgrheane44> mp ysta raegejn
[19:49] <Soupahgrheane44> bejs sk fjusm ok
[19:49] <mmaksimov> karma_police: you have to mark that partition to mount as /home in the installer
[19:49] <Soupahgrheane44> meenak chu mas
[19:50] <uLinux> mmaksimov: so .. he deletes the other partitions and keep /home then mount it in the installer right?
[19:50] <Soupahgrheane44> buuun ab xhhysw aah du g ski
[19:50] <mmaksimov> uLinux right
[19:50] <karma_police> it won't let you without changing the format tho.. i'm talking about the second time.. after the /home has already been occupied.. sorry.. i'm a bit of a noob
[19:51] <xerox1> Soupahgrheane44: english??
[19:51] <mmaksimov> karma_police before the re-install, how many partitions have you got?
[19:51] <uLinux> I have an unmounted drive that doesnt go away.. how can I remove it ? nautilus keeps showing it i dont want to restart
[19:51] <karma_police> when i first installed i set / then /home then swap
[19:51] <Soupahgrheane44> noookaus aha  djd suj
[19:52] <karma_police> when i reinstalled i deleted the / and reinstalled and left the other two alone
[19:52] <cool-aide> !updates
[19:52] <cool-aide> !update
[19:52] <androidbruce|net> if i ssh into my machine and start a wget, then close the ssh term will the wget finish it's download?
[19:53] <cool-aide> !xfce
[19:53] <Soupahgrheane44> knsojs ajs sju eruu e jaiois
[19:53] <mmaksimov> karma_police: great. When the installer asks you about disk layout, you have to delete then re-create "/" _and_ mark /home to mount as /home, _and_ mark swap to be used as swap
[19:53] <cool-aide> !cli
[19:53] <Soupahgrheane44> kajans jsb sonwi
[19:54] <cool-aide> !desktop cube
[19:54] <cool-aide> !desktop
[19:54] <blakkheim> cool-aide: stop
[19:54] <mmaksimov> androidbruce|net: no, you have to explicitly put wget into background
[19:54] <pasasap> Hello. How can I play a videos in youtube.com on Ubuntu?
[19:54] <cool-aide> !fluxbox
[19:54] <cool-aide> !3D
[19:55] <blakkheim> cool-aide: play with the bot in PM
[19:55] <Solved> ok, so I want to stream this only mp3, and when using totem, i hear no sound. (Linux Ubuntu 10.04 LTS (32 bit))
[19:56] <Lollipop56> hi there, can I speak to an nmap expert plz?
[19:56] <Solved> I want to stream this online mp3, and when using totem, i hear no sound. (Linux Ubuntu 10.04 LTS (32 bit))
[19:56] <pasasap> exit
[19:56] <pankaj_sharma> Solved: use vlc
[19:57] <uLinux> what is this "isofs_fill_super: bread failed, dev=loop0, iso_blknum=16, block=3"
[19:57] <mmaksimov> Hi all. Is there an easy way to edit the labels shown in the grub menu? I mean, if there are several different *buntu flavors installed including betas it is really annoying to remember which combination of kernel + /dev/sdaN means which system :(
[19:58] <Solved> pankaj_sharma: sudo apt-get intall vlc?
[19:58] <Chaos2358> does anyone use the cowbell music organizer?
[19:58] <uLinux> Can I do 'sudo umount /dev/loop0'
[19:59] <mich2000> mmaksimov: you need to edit the grub config file. it should be somewhere in /boot
[19:59] <Chaos2358> does anyone use the cowbell music organizer?
[19:59] <Solved> pankaj_sharma: sudo apt-get intall vlc?
[19:59] <Braber01> um which equals operator do i use with numeric data?
[20:00] <Chaos2358> does anyone use the cowbell music organizer?
[20:00] <Braber01> !flood | Chaos2358
[20:00] <Chaos2358> Braber01 dont be an ass im trying to get help
[20:01] <blakkheim> !attitude | Chaos2358
[20:01] <pankaj_sharma> hahahhah
[20:01] <Chaos2358> !attitude blakkheim
[20:01] <pankaj_sharma> lol
[20:01] <IdleOne> Stop please
[20:01] <IdleOne> Chaos2358: I don't use it but what about it?
[20:02] <pankaj_sharma> sorry, i cant stop laughing... this is too much
[20:02] <Gnea> Braber01: just an FYI, it's !repeat, not !flood
[20:02] <IdleOne> pankaj_sharma: you can control your fingers from typing nonsense
[20:02] <Chaos2358> Idleone im tyring to use it to get song info but it isnt working
[20:02] <Solved> pankaj_sharma: how do i get vlc?
[20:02] <Braber01> Gnea Thank you
[20:02] <pankaj_sharma> Solved: download it
[20:02] <Chaos2358> Idleone when i try it tries to connect to amazon but says it timed out
[20:02] <Solved> from where
[20:02] <Solved> repos?
[20:03] <pankaj_sharma> yup
[20:03] <pankaj_sharma> search in synaptic manager
[20:03] <IdleOne> Chaos2358: can you try a different server? I am not familiar with the app
[20:03] <Solved> sudo apt-get install vlc?
[20:03] <IdleOne> Solved: yes
[20:03] <pankaj_sharma> yo
[20:03] <Madwill> i need ubuntu to stay on forever, never get any screensaver never close the screen never do anything on its own is that possible ?
[20:03] <Solved> Madwill: yes it is
[20:03] <Chaos2358> Idleone what do you mean a differernt server? im not too familiar with ubuntu and open source stuff yet
[20:04] <Chaos2358> Madwill go into preferences and screen saver
[20:04] <Solved> Madwill: go to preferences --> screensaver
[20:04] <IdleOne> Chaos2358: Does the application allow you to chose a different download server to get the info from?
[20:04] <Solved> beat you to it :P
[20:04] <Chaos2358> no
[20:04] <Chaos2358> Idleone no
[20:04] <Chaos2358> it connects to soap.amazon.com
[20:05] <Chaos2358> Solved it shows mine first on my screen
[20:05] <sms_> How do I remove/hide the small circle on the left corner of each window? I did this: gconftool-2 --type string --set /apps/metacity/general/button_layout "menu:minimize,maximize,close" and the circle appeared..
[20:05] <IdleOne> Chaos2358: try: man cowbell
[20:05] <Madwill> i did i went into it, uncheckd screensaver then went to power management and i've put everything to never but the thing still freeze
[20:05] <blakkheim> sms_: take off the menu part
[20:05] <IdleOne> Chaos2358: might have some info
[20:05] <Madwill> maybe its virtualbox
[20:06] <Chaos2358> Idleone thanx i hadnt thought about that
[20:06] <sms_> ahh I see
[20:07] <mich2000> ndiswrapper makes my system crash :-(
[20:08] <sms_> Well it worked but there is still empty space there, can it be removed?
[20:10] <Chaos2358> IdleOne no help there
[20:10] <AviMarcus> Hi. The package manager is bugging me to update the kernal to 2.6.32-24 generic, but I've been running 2.6.34-020634-generic for months, to fix a dual-screen issue. How can I get it to stop bugging me?
[20:11] <IdleOne> Chaos2358: I installed and got the same error.
[20:11] <Chaos2358> anyone know anything about cowbell music organizer
[20:11] <blakkheim> AviMarcus: apt pinning
[20:11] <Chaos2358> so it must be the app not just my system
[20:11] <IdleOne> Chaos2358: yup. report a bug perhaps
[20:11] <glaucous> Wouldn't it be possible to restart Ubuntu/Linux, but only to Grub? So that you don't actually restart the computer, just the OS. No need for BIOS slow startup etc.
[20:11] <Spt> every livecd i use to format my hard disks stacks...
[20:11] <Spt> what should i do?
[20:11] <Chaos2358> Idleone thanx at least now i know its not just something im doing or not doing
[20:12] <Braber01> um which equals op do I use with numeric data?
[20:12] <kwyjibo2> livecd's are evil
[20:12] <doktoreas> hello everybody..I am trying to build a package but I recive this error: http://dpaste.com/252105/ do you think that I miss some packages?
[20:12] <Braber01> for bash?
[20:12] <IdleOne> Braber01: #bash
[20:13] <Spt> every livecd i use to format my hard disks stacks...
[20:13] <Spt> what should i do?
[20:14] <Braber01> IdleOne: that's one one of bash's equal's operators the ones I'm talking about are -eq == etc ..
[20:14] <Chaos2358> Idleone i think it may just be obsolete i went to the website and it was released in 2006 and no updates
[20:14] <IdleOne> Chaos2358: very possible but the package is in the repos so someone "maintains" it
[20:15] <Chaos2358> yea good point
[20:15] <IdleOne> Braber01: you already know that #ubuntu is for Ubuntu support, not questions about bash. join #bash and ask them.
[20:16] <Braber01> IdleOne: ididn't relise that you were rediection me to a channel sorry
[20:16] <Spt> every livecd i use to format my hard disks stacks...
[20:16] <Spt> what should i do?
[20:16] <Chaos2358> Idleone the issue is also in the websites bug tracker with no resolution
[20:16] <Spt> every ubuntu or other livecd i use to format my hard disks stacks...
[20:17] <IdleOne> Chaos2358: then I suggest trying some other app
[20:17] <IdleOne> Spt: stacks?
[20:17] <Chaos2358> Idleone and wow it was reported in 06 the issue seems to be that it cant function behind a proxy
[20:18] <IdleOne> Chaos2358: afaik I am not behind any proxy
[20:18] <Yeasper> -a
[20:19] <Spt> every ubuntu or other livecd i use to format my hard disks stacks to some point and its not responding...
[20:19] <Chaos2358> Idleone oh well would you by chance know of another app that will retrieve and integrate missing album and song info
[20:20] <IdleOne> Chaos2358: I don't sorry
[20:20] <IdleOne> Chaos2358: I am sure there are plenty in the repos, just don't know them
[20:21] <Chaos2358> Idle0ne ok i really appreciate all the help and im glad to see that there are some people here that will actually attempt to help someone as opposed to flagging them
[20:21] <Pentium3> ]Hello, I am using ircp-tray to attempt to transfer files via infrared to my windows 98 laptop and it says "Unable to connect remote, Cannot assign requested address"
[20:21] <AviMarcus> blakkheim: thanks.
[20:22] <x0rs_ha> What's the proper killall command that gives me an X as a cursor to click the app i want to close?
[20:22] <vsMS> Hi. I will setup luzid on my Server. I Plan to install a softraid 1. I Found some hints tha this will be a Problem. Is it really so?
[20:22] <toxictux> x0rs_ha, xkill
[20:22] <x0rs_ha> toxictux: thanks!
[20:23] <IdleOne> Chaos2358: sure thing, sorry I wasn't more helpful
[20:24] <williambecker> server irc.twit.tv
[20:24] <Pentium3> ]Hello, I am using ircp-tray to attempt to transfer files via infrared to my windows 98 laptop and it says "Unable to connect remote, Cannot assign requested address" could I get some help?
[20:26] <pr0xy> hi, I'm having some issues with the live CD for the Ubuntu 10.10 beta.
[20:27] <gizol> hi
[20:27] <vsMS> prOxy: Details please
[20:27] <mich2000> pr0xy: what issues??
[20:27] <guntbert> !10.10 | pr0xy
[20:27] <pr0xy> I'm going to try the disk again, give me a moment.
[20:28] <pr0xy> okay, i'm starting the pc now.
[20:30] <Pentium3> ]Hello, I am using ircp-tray to attempt to transfer files via infrared to my windows 98 laptop and it says "Unable to connect remote, Cannot assign requested address" could I get some help?
[20:30] <pr0xy> okay options are: "try ubuntu without installing", "install ubuntu", "Check disc for defects", "test memory", "boot from first hard disk"
[20:31] <x0rs_ha> Can anyone suggest a good torrent client for ubuntu?
[20:31] <IdleOne> transmission
[20:31] <pr0xy> what do I need to do?
[20:31] <owen_> does anyone know why im not getting any audio? :P
[20:32] <almoxarife> demons?
[20:32] <IdleOne> owen_: check the prefs and make sure nothing is muted
[20:32] <chrissharp123> pr0xy: if you want to try it out, pick the first option
[20:32] <owen_> tried to find drivers for my sound card but its not happening
[20:32] <kyle____> Is there an ubuntu package that includes udev rules for android devices?
[20:32] <daniela78> transmission is easy to use... x0rs_ha
[20:32] <x0rs_ha> daniela78: thanks a lot
[20:32] <tinus_> hey
[20:32] <chrissharp123> pr0xy: (that's always a good idea before installing, even if you're a veteran user)
[20:32] <daniela78> owen_, which chipset/sc do ya have
[20:33] <jrgp> I have a really weird issue. It has persisted from karmic to maverick. Every now and then (including right now) the up arrow key stops working and the only way to fix it is to restart X
[20:33] <owen_> IdleOne nothing is muted ^^
[20:33] <pr0xy> chrissharp123: I know, i have the ubuntu with the 5 dots on a purple screen.
[20:33] <Pentium3> ]Hello, I am using ircp-tray to attempt to transfer files via infrared to my windows 98 laptop and it says "Unable to connect remote, Cannot assign requested address" could I get some help?
[20:33] <daniela78> owen_: not that helpful, but I got my Realtek ALC650F (nforce2) never working... installed secon pci soundcard instead
[20:33] <mich2000> pr0xy:  'try ubuntu without installing' to try ubuntu, 'install ubuntu' to install to harddrive
[20:34] <IdleOne> owen_: the correct output device is selected in the sound prefs?
[20:34] <chrissharp123> pr0xy: what's your issue, then - I guess I don't understand :-)
[20:34] <owen_> yup
[20:34] <uLinux> Why /etc/hosts shows 127.0.1.1   myhostname? Is it normal?
[20:35] <pr0xy> Currently I have a really weird screen with a bunch of purple, green, pink, and black rectangles.
[20:35] <no--name> how do i get rid of an alias that i have made with the alias command?
[20:35] <daniela78> owen_, you should also have a look at /etc/alsa-base.conf
[20:35] <bsmith093> i have some ancient compaqs presario 5400b5w lying around. is there a way to make my laptop into the keybaord and monitor of them temporarily?
[20:35] <owen_> is there a way to ping my pc spec on here?
[20:35] <jrgp> anyone know how I can fix my up arrow?
[20:36] <daniela78> I stuck at the end of here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting maybe this site helps you
[20:36] <IdleOne> owen_: lspci | grep Audio
[20:36] <omi> hey :>
[20:36] <pr0xy> chrissharp123: Currently I have a really weird screen with a bunch of purple, green, pink, and black rectangles. should I give a picture?
[20:36] <ChogyDan> uLinux: I think it is a shortcut, so your hostname resolves to your own computer without a dns lookup
[20:36] <Pentium3> ]Hello, I am using ircp-tray to attempt to transfer files via infrared to my windows 98 laptop and it says "Unable to connect remote, Cannot assign requested address" could I get some help?
[20:37] <vladimir_> hola algien avla espanol
[20:37] <owen_> anyway i have creative sound audigy soundblaster 5.1 card if that helps
[20:37] <chrissharp123> pr0xy: no - that means that the X server is not cooperating with your video card
[20:37] <uLinux> ChogyDan: im trying to minimize the delay between login and desktop.. someone said something about hosts file
[20:37] <IdleOne> !es | vladimir_
[20:37] <chrissharp123> pr0xy: do you know what kind of card you have?
[20:37] <daniela78> owen_, see which modules are already loaded: lsmod|grep snd
[20:38] <vladimir_> algien avla espanol
[20:38] <kaddi> !es
[20:38] <pr0xy> chrissharp123: it's an EVGA GT 240
[20:38] <vladimir_> solo vusco alluda
[20:38] <vladimir_> sol novato algien me alluda
[20:38] <IdleOne> vladimir_: escribe /join #ubuntu-es
[20:38] <chrissharp123> pr0xy: my other question is, have you decided for sure to install ubuntu on this computer?  If so, you can install with the alternate CD, then work out the problem (if present) after the installation
[20:38] <vladimir_> tato
[20:38] <vladimir_> graxx
[20:38] <chrissharp123> !alternate | pr0xy
[20:39] <bsmith093> this is probably an very naive and stupid question, but can i just connect 2 computers together via their ethernet prots and transfer things that way?\\
[20:39] <owen_> daniela78 how do i do that sry :P
[20:39] <pr0xy> chrissharp123: it works just fine with 10.04. I have an external drive I boot 10.04 from, and I would like to run 10.10 on it.
[20:40] <IdleOne> owen_: in a terminal type: lsmod|grep snd
[20:40] <owen_> ok
[20:40] <halvors> Its there a bug in Maverick that the whole system starts go slow and begin lagging when the system is use for some hours (4-6 hours).
[20:40] <uLinux> bsmith093: yes
[20:40] <IdleOne> it will give you a list of loaded modules
[20:40] <guntbert> !nickspam > isa
[20:40] <bsmith093> uLinux: just using a standard ethernet cable
[20:40] <Pentium3> ]Hello, I am using ircp-tray to attempt to transfer files via infrared to my windows 98 laptop and it says "Unable to connect remote, Cannot assign requested address" could I get some help?
[20:40] <toxictux> bsmith093, the options are endless ^^
[20:40] <RandBrittain> Can someone point me to a reliable guide on how to set up a RAM disk to keep my cache on in lucid? I'm trying to save writes on my SSD.
[20:40] <uLinux> bsmith093: rj45
[20:40] <daniela78> owen_, look @ the site I posted above... there are several steps to configure possible misconfigurations out
[20:41] <bsmith093> uLinux: whats rj45
[20:41] <uLinux> bsmith093: ethernet cable
[20:41] <daniela78> owen_, sry for my bad english - my natural language is german :)
[20:41] <chrissharp123> pr0xy: ah... well, 10.10 would still be expected to have issues, but there are some common problems with X and certain types of video cards (and many posts on the Ubuntu Forums about them)
[20:41] <asig> rj45 is not cable, it's only the plug of the calbe (connector)
[20:41] <bsmith093> i have a dell laptop and im trying to boot an ancient compaq (with a windows 98 lisence) using ubuntu
[20:42] <chrissharp123> pr0xy: not familiar with your type of card so not sure which specifics to advise :-)
[20:42] <uLinux> asig: :)
[20:42] <owen_> :)
[20:42] <pr0xy> chrissharp123: what should I do? wait until the 10th?
[20:42] <uLinux> bsmith093: you just need to configure the connection. you can use network manager for that
[20:43] <daniela78> owen_, you have looked into alsamixer and unmuted everything?
[20:43] <owen_> i typed lsmod|grep Audio in terminal and i get lots of stuff in there
[20:43] <chrissharp123> pr0xy: it's safer to wait - I run it in VirtualBox because I like to see what's coming and to test things
[20:43] <owen_> yes everything is unmuted ^^
[20:43] <prod-beginner> hi, im looking for help installing a network card in CLI.
[20:43] <Pentium3> ]Hello, I am using ircp-tray to attempt to transfer files via infrared to my windows 98 laptop and it says "Unable to connect remote, Cannot assign requested address" could I get some help?
[20:43] <chrissharp123> pr0xy: in fact, I usually give a new release about a month to work out the final bugs - that may be just me
[20:43] <jawad> Jolicloud rules
[20:44] <daniela78> owen_, so thats the hardware that was recognized... now you have to figure out whether the right module was loaded for your soundcard/onboard soundchip
[20:44] <vladimir_> por favol algien me diga como puedo correl juego onlines en ubuntu pero es jugado alguno pero el que kiero se me ase dificil
[20:44] <chrissharp123> !es | vladimir_
[20:44] <owen_> ok
[20:44] <vladimir_> oks
[20:44] <asig> vladimir_: try on #ubuntu-es
[20:45] <Pentium3> ]Hello, I am using ircp-tray to attempt to transfer files via infrared to my windows 98 laptop and it says "Unable to connect remote, Cannot assign requested address" could I get some help?
[20:45] <asig> "correl" is not spanish, xD
[20:45] <asig> correl, favol xD
[20:46] <owen_> so i need Asrock chipset drivers for ubuntu? :P
[20:46] <prod-beginner> Would someone be so kind to link me a tutorial on "Adding a network card"? its a very simple 10/100 realtek card. Thanx in advance
[20:47] <chrissharp123> prod-beginner: should just work after you physically install it
[20:47] <Pentium3> prod-beginner: I normally stick it in and its autodetected.
[20:47] <uLinux> does somebody know how can I decrease delay between Login and Desktop? It takes like 10 seconds to load the desktop..
[20:47] <chrissharp123> prod-beginner: the linux kernel is pretty good with that kind of thing :-)
[20:47] <prod-beginner> when i do ifconfig i have only my original eth0 and no eth1
[20:47] <toxictux> prod-beginner, there should be the network manager in your gnome panel
[20:47] <chrissharp123> prod-beginner: do you see your new card when you do lscpi ?
[20:47] <prod-beginner> im am working on a server version of 10.04
[20:48] <prod-beginner> chris - yes
[20:48] <chrissharp123> prod-beginner: sorry, lspci
[20:48] <Pentium3> ]Hello, I am using ircp-tray to attempt to transfer files via infrared to my windows 98 laptop and it says "Unable to connect remote, Cannot assign requested address" could I get some help?
[20:49] <prod-beginner> i think so, it seems the 2 cards are there seperated by a .
[20:49] <daniela78> owen_, Asrock is not a valid chipset for sound afaik... what did ya got there: lspci -v|grep audio
[20:50] <chrissharp123> prod-beginner: it should list each card on separate lines
[20:50] <prod-beginner> then it is not, sorry
[20:50] <chrissharp123> prod-beginner: you can see more with lspci -v or even lspci -vv
[20:50] <owen_> owen@ubuntu:~$ lsmod|grep snd
[20:50] <owen_> snd_atiixp_modem        9103  0
[20:50] <owen_> snd_via82xx_modem       8486  0
[20:50] <owen_> snd_intel8x0m          10751  0
[20:50] <owen_> snd_emu10k1_synth       5156  0
[20:50] <FloodBot1> owen_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:50] <owen_> snd_emux_synth         31695  1 snd_emu10k1_synth
[20:50] <prod-beginner> ill check, thanx
[20:51] <daniela78> owen_, I would suggest going through this tutorial, there is a script that puts your configuration output to a website... plse give that link to me
[20:51] <chrissharp123> prod-beginner: other test... is the card's ethernet light on when you plug in a live cord?
[20:51] <daniela78> owen_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[20:52] <prod-beginner> chris- yes
[20:52] <Pentium3> ]Hello, I am using ircp-tray to attempt to transfer files via infrared to my windows 98 laptop and it says "Unable to connect remote, Cannot assign requested address" could I get some help?
[20:52] <prod-beginner> lscpi -v doesnt seem to bring up the network card
[20:53] <chrissharp123> prod-beginner: have you restarted the server since installing?  (I'm assuming you would have turned off the power, etc. :-).
[20:53] <Pentium3> I guess no one here can help me..
[20:53] <prod-beginner> hehe ofc :) i have also restarted, sorry to seem silly but is there a way to scroll up in cli?
[20:54] <drudge> test
[20:54] <chrissharp123> prod-beginner: not silly - shift + pgup
[20:54] <zaxonspox> hello everyone, did someone use youtube-dl in Ubuntu?
[20:54] <ross_> how do i install divx in ubuntu
[20:54] <daniela78> prod-beginner, have you tried the -A options for lspci
[20:55] <prod-beginner> ok, there is definitely only 1 network card showing in lspci -v
[20:55] <owen_> http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=90160197a8d970ca27b54757014ff7ce1f6eddf8
[20:55] <IdleOne> ross_: install ubuntu-restricted-extras and that should be all you need
[20:55] <SyKe> Can anyone here help me with backtrack 4 plz? I'm currently on backtrack 4 right now. I want to format a partition in which i've installed ubuntu (ext4) inside of backtrack 4 liveCD. But backtrack 4 is not recognizing that partition. Is there a tool in backtrack 4 just like GParted that can recognize that partition and format it?
[20:55] <IdleOne> !backtrack | SyKe
[20:56] <ross_> that didn't work
[20:56] <ross_> how do i install vlc?
[20:56] <daniela78> owen_, so you have a card with an emu10k chip on it, right?
[20:56] <IdleOne> ross_: sudo apt-get install vlc
[20:56] <owen_> erm yes i think so lol
[20:56] <ross_> that didn't work either!!
[20:57] <IdleOne> ross_: get any error?
[20:57] <Chmarza> elo
[20:57] <Chmarza> ktos tu jest?
[20:57] <IdleOne> didn't work is a broad statement
[20:57] <prod-beginner> im not sure how to finish lspci -A command, do i need to know the hardware id for the card?
[20:57] <ross_> http://www.letmewatchthis.com/external.php?title=Wall+Street&url=aHR0cDovL3d3dy5kaXZ4bW92aWVzaGFyZS5jb20vZmlsZS5waHA/ZmlsbT0yNTk0&domain=divxmovieshare.com&loggedin=0
[20:57] <ross_> that's what i'm trying to watch but it doesn't work
[20:58] <drudge> test
[20:58] <dustin_> does anyone here have a fix for windows that are too tall for my desktop and wont allow me to resize their height to fit?
[20:58] <Imker> Hy! I want to lunch .exe file with wine but I cant becouse it says "The file '/home/Imker/Documents/LeagueofLegendsEUDownloader.exe' is not marked as executable.  If this was downloaded or copied form an untrusted source, it may be dangerous to run.  For more details, read about the executable bit."
[20:59] <ChogyDan> dustin_: you can hold alt, and drag them for the time being
[20:59] <zaxonspox> Imerk chmod 755 on this EXE
[21:00] <Imker> what do you mean.. how can i start it?
[21:00] <chrissharp123> prod-beginner: have you checked the card at the BIOS level?
[21:00] <dustin_> chogydan that gives me the temporary fix that I can close/minimize but I still cant access the lower buttons of my window
[21:00] <chrissharp123> prod-beginner: there may be some configuration that has to happen to use the other NIC
[21:01] <prod-beginner> chris- ill go check the bios now
[21:01] <zaxonspox> Imker in commandline type: sudo chmod 755 /home/Imker/Documents/LeagueofLegendsEUDownloader.exe Press ENTER and Type your admin/root password
[21:02] <blakkheim> zaxonspox: sudo isn't needed
[21:02] <zaxonspox> blakkheim: for chmod? i'm all the time informet, i need to have root priv. -> sudo
[21:03] <UweBollsFunder> Hi
[21:03] <blakkheim> zaxonspox: the file is writable by his user since it's in his ~/Documents directory, you don't need root privs to edit it
[21:03] <dustin_> yeah if root priv wasnt needed execute priv can be added from the GUI\
[21:03] <ChogyDan> dustin_: you can't drag the window up?
[21:03] <Imker> zaxonspox: thank you very much
[21:03] <thechitow> st33l,
[21:04] <daniela78> owen_, that module was correctly loaded on your system: snd_emu10k1, please run gstreamer-properties from bash
[21:04] <dustin_> chogydan the window wont allow my to exceed the upper portion of my screen
[21:04] <zaxonspox> who did used program 'youtube-dl' on Ubuntu?
[21:04] <prod-beginner> chris - i dont seem to be able to bring up any hardware info in BIOS sorry.
[21:05] <blakkheim> dustin_: touch ~/test && chmod 775 test
[21:05] <blakkheim> dustin_: does it give you a permission denied? it doesn't for me
[21:05] <prod-beginner> the light on the eth port shows 100Mb/s
[21:05] <daniela78> owen_, then select on the first audio tab as PLUGIN your soundcard output port and press Test
[21:05] <ChogyDan> dustin_: you are holding alt and dragging, right?  I dunno, that works for me
[21:05] <chrissharp123> prod-beginner: odd... not sure what to advise then
[21:05] <nl> drudge: hi
[21:06] <drudge> hello
[21:06] <nucc1> hi guys, i've used loads of ppas, is it a wise idea to dist-upgrade to the 10.10 rc ?
[21:06] <blakkheim> nucc1: no
[21:06] <nucc1> blakkheim, so i gotta back up and do a clean install ? :(
[21:06] <dustin_> chogydan its letting me now idk maybey I wasnt wiggling my ears the first time
[21:07] <ChogyDan> :)
[21:07] <prod-beginner> what are the chances it may be incompatible? there is a realtek chip on the card and thought it would have a good chance in working. Only payed £6 for it :D
[21:07] <bob31> anyone here working with non en_US or C locale? I'd like to know output of svn --version or hg --version. e.g. pt_BR. thanks
[21:07] <blakkheim> nucc1: wait until it is stable
[21:07] <nucc1> blakkheim, that is until release day? or a few weeks after?
[21:07] <^Matt> What package has documentation on C library functions?
[21:07] <blakkheim> nucc1: i'd say a week or so after
[21:07] <UweBollsFunder> I need help setting up a Samba share (to be accessed from Windows Explorer), that requires a username and password to allow people to access the share. All my attempts so far have failed. Here is my share's configuration: http://www.pastebin.org/2858    which is clearly not working because despite forcing a valid user, I can access it without being prompted for a username or password.
[21:07] <ChogyDan> nucc1: I've heard that xorg ppas can be a problem, other than that, you will probably be ok
[21:08] <nucc1> ChogyDan, i don't use xorg ppas, most of my ppas are for apps. chromium, rhythmbox, webkit
[21:08] <behappy1> Hello its possible to stream TV channel on ubuntu server ?
[21:09] <FusionX> I just  formatted my ubuntu partition to ntfs, should i also format linuxswap?
[21:09] <ChogyDan> nucc1: then I think you only need to worry about adding the ppas back in after upgrade.  Most apps are fairly safe I think
[21:09] <blakkheim> FusionX: you can't install linux on ntfs
[21:09] <nucc1> ChogyDan, if i don't add them back in, i'll get dependency issues?
[21:09] <guntbert> FusionX: you should not run linux from an ntfs partition
[21:10] <^Matt> FusionX: why would you do that? O_o
[21:10] <FusionX> guntbert: i formatted ubuntu
[21:10] <FusionX> guntbert: and now it is ntfs
[21:10] <^Matt> FusionX: Also, no, swap partitions must be formatted as such if you want them to actually work :)
[21:10] <FusionX> ^Matt: i formatted ubuntu, so should i format linuxswap too?
[21:10] <guntbert> FusionX: what are you trying to do? run windows?
[21:10] <ChogyDan> nucc1: no, if you have dependency issues, you will run into trouble during the upgrade.  You only add them back for further updates
[21:11] <owen_> daniela78 my soundcard isnt listed under plugin
[21:11] <^Matt> FusionX: By "formatted" do you mean "got rid of entirely"?
[21:11] <FusionX> ^Matt: yes
[21:11] <nucc1> ChogyDan, ok then. thanks :)
[21:11] <^Matt> FusionX: ah, then yes, feel free to nuke your swap partition
[21:12] <daniela78> owen_, first choose ALSA/Pulseaudio - depending on what you are usin
[21:12] <owen_> ok
[21:13] <prod-beginner> Still after restarting i have no new network adapters  showing /cry
[21:13] <owen_> testing pieline .......................................
[21:13] <daniela78> owen_, i dunno how the names of the options are in english, in german its called Ausgabe->Plugin->Gerät
[21:13] <prod-beginner> really lost now
[21:13] <owen_> hehehe
[21:13] <amarcolino_> what is the supported hypervisor for ubuntu?
[21:14] <owen_> test is taking a long time
[21:14] <daniela78> owen_, so maybe its plugin(alsa, oss, pulse)->device(soundcardports)...
[21:14] <owen_> yes
[21:15] <ThomasB2k> Hi, I have a n00bish question. Let's say I used GNOME terminal to open firefox. Is there any way to end the firefox process through that gnome terminal?
[21:15] <^Matt> ThomasB2k: ^C
[21:15] <^Matt> ThomasB2k: ... which is CTRL-C
[21:15] <ThomasB2k> yes, thank you
[21:16] <ThomasB2k> ^Matt, that didn't work
[21:16] <^Matt> ThomasB2k: blame ff :o
[21:16] <blakkheim> killall -9 firefox-bin
[21:16] <Dr_Willis> Or else he spawned it to the background.. some how..
[21:16] <ThomasB2k> blakkheim, that would require me opening another terminal
[21:16] <^Matt> ThomasB2k: I think it uses a wrapper script, so you've killed that script but not FF itself. Use pkill or something
[21:17] <blakkheim> ThomasB2k: what happens when you do ^C then?
[21:17] <^Matt> ThomasB2k: though, it did work for me
[21:17]  * ^Matt shrugs
[21:17] <Dr_Willis> ThomasB2k:  use ctrl-z then kill from the prompt. or xkill, or pkill
[21:17] <daniela78> on output test you should hear something, on my emu10k1 I set ALSA,Front. Then appears in forward the option: alsasink device="hw:0,0"  and I hear a beep while Test runs
[21:17] <ThomasB2k> ^Matt, I just realized that I've changed the hotkey in gnome terminal for copy from Ctrl Shift C to Ctrl C.
[21:17] <^Matt> oops :)
[21:17] <blakkheim> :/
[21:17] <ThomasB2k> That probably conflicted it, although I don't remember any prompt that came up.
[21:18] <owen_> still no sound :*(
[21:18] <zaxonspox> who used app "youtube-dl" on Ubuntu?
[21:18] <prod-beginner> say my machine is not detecting my network card via lspci would reinstalling the OS make any difference?
[21:18] <Dr_Willis> running firefox, then ctrl-c here in a terminal did kill firefox just now.
[21:18] <blakkheim> prod-beginner: probably not
[21:19] <prod-beginner> blak- didnt think so. Do i have any other options?
[21:19] <ThomasB2k> weird
[21:19] <ThomasB2k> oh well, it's not a big deal
[21:19] <blakkheim> prod-beginner: it's either unsupported, a hardware failure or the kernel module isn't loaded
[21:19] <Chozo> i like kernels
[21:20] <prod-beginner> i like cookies :)
[21:20] <^Matt> Chozo: wanna share some popcorn? xD
[21:20] <toxictux> i like turtles
[21:20] <Chozo> haha
[21:20] <prod-beginner> hehe
[21:20] <Dr_Willis> But the cake is a lie....
[21:20] <daniela78> owen_, whats greyed out in forward option field? alsasink ?
[21:20] <Dr_Willis> good night
[21:20] <nozes> help http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/3294/help2e.jpg
[21:21] <Dice-Man> nozes, ?
[21:21] <owen_> alsasink device="hw:0,0"
[21:21] <blakkheim> nozes: have you tried disabling ACPI in your BIOS?
[21:22] <nozes> no speak ingles
[21:22] <nozes> sorry
[21:22] <^Matt> nozes: what language?
[21:22] <blakkheim> what is your native?
[21:22]  * ^Matt guesses es, or pt...
[21:23] <nozes> portugue
[21:23] <^Matt> !pt | nozes
[21:23] <nozes> brasil
[21:23] <nozes> thks
[21:23] <^Matt> :)
[21:23] <wedwo> cookie for ^Matt
[21:23] <^Matt> \o/
[21:24] <Cityscape> How do I install a graphics driver from the Nvidia website? It is a .run file and has no associated program.
[21:24] <blakkheim> Cityscape: chmod +x thefile.run && sudo ./thefile.run
[21:25] <Fanshawe> Evolution won't notify me of any alarms. How do I fix this?
[21:25] <daniela78> owen_, card 0: Audigy2 [SB Audigy 2 [SB0240]], device 0: emu10k1 is playback, dunno why it isn't working.
[21:25] <owen_> daniela78 is there not a remote desktop program we can use? so you can see lol
[21:26] <daniela78> owen_, have you also tried hw:0,2 ?
[21:27] <owen_> there is only hw:0,0   hw:0,3   and hw:0,4
[21:28] <daniela78> owen_, okay I see, 0,2 is the fx channel
[21:28] <daniela78> owen_, I asume you already tried 0,3 and 0,4
[21:28] <Cityscape> blakkheim: it uncompresses and then says "ERROR: "You appear to be running an X server; please exit X before installing. For further details..."
[21:28] <^Matt> What package has documentation on C library functions?
[21:28] <owen_> yes
[21:29] <Zbysiu180> hi
[21:29] <blakkheim> Cityscape: so edit your DE/WM and then do it
[21:29] <blakkheim> exit*
[21:29] <erUSUL> ^Matt: manpages-dev
[21:29] <erUSUL> !info manpages-dev
[21:29] <^Matt> erUSUL: thanks!
[21:30] <owen_> when i click test is it ment to make sound?
[21:30] <daniela78> owen_, speakers are connected trough front or rear jack?
[21:30] <Zbysiu180> my cats is idiot
[21:30] <Zbysiu180> my name kupa
[21:30] <owen_> rear jack
[21:30] <Cityscape> blakkheim: how do I do it if exit my DE? If i exit my DE I won't be able to get to the Terminal, will I?
[21:30] <blakkheim> Cityscape: you will use a virtual console
[21:31] <Cityscape> blakkheim: can you give me instructions? I never done this before.
[21:31] <^Matt> What are these install-info warnings and how can I fix them? http://sprunge.us/WNbL
[21:31] <blakkheim> Cityscape: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[21:31] <blakkheim> Cityscape: login with console, run the command, start gdm again
[21:31] <daniela78> owen_, yes... all the time until you interrupt it
[21:32] <daniela78> owen_, you should hear the test sound :/
[21:33] <owen_> i also tried plugging into onboard jacks
[21:33] <Cityscape> blakkheim: I did "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop" and now I just have a blank screen. What now?
[21:33] <blakkheim> Cityscape: ctrl+alt+f2 to switch to a VC
[21:36] <dasinex> salutes
[21:37] <Floid> Does hibernate demand swap >= RAM?  (And which of the thousand suspend/hibernate projects is standard now, anyway?)
[21:37] <blakkheim> Floid: yes it does
[21:38] <Floid> Thanks, guess I have to plan accordingly.  [Just in case I ever install more..]
[21:38] <blakkheim> i haven't used hibernate in years
[21:39] <Floid> No UPS and it's a desktop, so it's nice to have the option if storms are coming.
[21:39] <blakkheim> oh i see
[21:39] <sburwood> .join ubuntu+1
[21:40] <erUSUL> Floid: yes; standar is the one in mainline kernel. the only onther competitor i know is TuxOnIce
[21:41] <Floid> I thought the one in mainline used to have a name before it was mainline, since Google for "linux hibernate" / "ubuntu hibernate" is not sufficiently enlightening.
[21:41] <bhupi> hi everyone
[21:41] <pw-toxic> hi, do i have to do something specific so backintime does the updates automatically?
[21:42] <bhupi> if i delete a partition ,how am i gonna recover it?
[21:42] <prod-beginner> <3 google, my n-210 is supported by linux. So i guess then im left to try and reinstall. Is there any other option i have before i go ahead and wreck hours and hours of work?
[21:42] <daniela78> owen_, sry I give up..dunno why there are such lines in your soundcardconfig: Playback 0 [0%] [-99999.99dB]
[21:42] <n00ber> hello
[21:42] <n00ber> plz help me
[21:43] <flodin> i've been getting this error the past three days when trying to install python-dev http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/tQTUnGwp
[21:43] <owen_> its ok, thankyou daniela78 ^_^
[21:43] <chrissharp123> prod-beginner: can you try a live CD to see if it works there?
[21:43] <TooR> .cn
[21:43] <flodin> anyone else seeing it or know how long it might take before the file is replaced?
[21:43] <n00ber> I downloaded ET and i'm trying to play Online
[21:43] <n00ber> but i'm unable to
[21:43] <daniela78> owen_, maybe its a prob with your AC97_codec or a Audigy2 prob, try to look in supported cards list
[21:43] <bhupi> ya i tried livecd but its not of uch help
[21:43] <n00ber> everytime i try to connect and start downloading map
[21:43] <prod-beginner> chris - good plan, top man :)
[21:43] <n00ber> the game closes
[21:44] <blakkheim> n00ber: is it a windows game or linux?
[21:44] <bhupi> how to recoer deleted partitions
[21:44] <ChogyDan> flodin: what is the full command?
[21:44] <n00ber> the linux version
[21:44] <n00ber> 2.60
[21:44] <chrissharp123> bhupi: no way to recover a deleted partition, short of data recovery
[21:44] <n00ber> et-linux-2.60.x86.run
[21:45] <^Matt> Anyone know what these install-info warnings mean? http://sprunge.us/WNbL
[21:45] <bhupi> NO ,ACTUALLY I DELETED THE PARTITION MY ROOT PARTITION FROM WINDOWS
[21:45] <n00ber> i have ubuntu 10.09 32bit ithink
[21:45] <killown> My monitor was not detected so I have to change the video card setting on nvdia-settings every boot, there is a way to save this settings and load it with some command in rc.local?
[21:45] <bhupi> MY COMOPUTER DOES NOT START NOW
[21:45] <DavyCave> anyone wanna assist me with a World of warcraft issue?
[21:45] <^Matt> bhupi: stop yelling
[21:45] <bhupi> sorry
[21:46] <erUSUL> !wine | DavyCave
[21:46] <daniela78> bhupi: whats wrong whith your keyborad?
[21:46] <DavyCave> roger
[21:46] <bhupi> not much
[21:46] <bhupi> daniela-will you help me
[21:47] <daniela78> bhupi: no I will go to bed now.
[21:47] <n00ber> blakkheim: will u help me?
[21:47] <bhupi> hallooooooooo
[21:47] <daniela78> seeya.
[21:47] <n00ber> plz
[21:47] <bhupi> seeya
[21:48] <etheretic> 'lo :)
[21:48] <n00ber> awaiting help
[21:48] <guntbert> bhupi: thats probably more difficult than I can handle via IRC - sorry - if you *really* need it get professional help
[21:48] <guntbert> !patience | n00ber
[21:49] <flodin> ChogyDan: here's the full transcript including the command http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/xyQ9w0ZG
[21:49] <Lauterino> Ballahanglow: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3DSN0sf9IY&feature=related
[21:49] <Lauterino> :)
[21:49] <mapalavi_> jajaja que es estoo???
[21:49] <n00ber> ok i'm gonna repeat it and wait, i wasn't sure if someone is trying or not.  sorry
[21:50] <prod-beginner> off to get a chinese, ill be back to pick your brains shortly :)
[21:50] <mapalavi_> what it's x-chat??? someone cant help me :)???
[21:50] <erUSUL> !es | mapalavi_
[21:50] <erUSUL> !irc | mapalavi_
[21:50] <daniela78> ps owen_ look at this site maybe your soundcard is not supported: http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Vendor-Creative_Labs
[21:51] <n00ber> I have install et-linux-2.60.x86.run(game) I can host and play by myself, when try to join a server, the game shutdown while connecting and downloading the map.  please help me.
[21:51] <ChogyDan> flodin: it looks like you just need to wait for the repo to update
[21:51] <eugenekorpan> hello everyone
[21:51] <n00ber> i have ubuntu 10.09 32bit i think
[21:51] <etheretic> Lauterino: pm'ing wihtout an invitation is considered bad ircqette.
[21:51] <n00ber> now i wait
[21:51] <flodin> ChogyDan: yeah, how long does that usually take? I've been waiting three days now
[21:51] <Cityscape> blakkheim: okay I've run the command in the virtual console and accepted the lisence  agreement. now it says: " the distribution-provided pre-install script fail! Install anyway?
[21:52] <Floid> Aha, name of mainline kernel suspend/hibernate is "swsusp" as opposed to "uswsusp" or TuxOnIce.
[21:52] <bhupi> hi
[21:52] <blakkheim> Cityscape: i'd give it a try, but i don't know if it will work for sure
[21:52] <sark666> i have a friend i set up with ubuntu a couple of years ago.  i can't even recall what version 8.04 i think.  haven't talked to him in a bit and he's trying to play a video that doesn't work in gnomeplayer or vlc, mplayer etc
[21:53] <blakkheim> sark666: can you play it on your machine?
[21:53] <etheretic> Lauterino: as far as mickey$oft goes - there is no depth they won't stoop to.
[21:53] <sark666> i tried a clip and it works fine.  anyway, I just wanted to get him the latest vlc
[21:53] <eugenekorpan> I don't want to interfere your conversation but may I ask a small question?
[21:53] <blakkheim> sark666: yeah, make him upgrade
[21:53] <sark666> blakkheim, yes works fine here. his player is probably just outdated
[21:53] <blakkheim> eugenekorpan: ask away
[21:54] <sark666> that's the thing, can he now upgrade to latest ubuntu directly, or does he have to upgrad x number of times?
[21:54] <Alysha> i cant watch anything on mine wither
[21:54] <n00ber> :S
[21:54] <Alysha> *either
[21:54] <Lauterino> etheretic; Yep, you have bugreporters that are employed by microsoft
[21:54] <blakkheim> sark666: he can go from 8.04 to 10.04
[21:54] <n00ber> i would like to add
[21:54] <erUSUL> sark666: 8.04 to 10.04 is possible becouse both are LTS
[21:54] <eugenekorpan> I have just installed ubunta and cannot configure internet connection, saying cabel is unplagged, is it something wrong with the matherboard drivers?
[21:54] <sark666> well i hope it's 8.04 might be earlier but i think it's that
[21:54] <n00ber> i tried the help page on ubuntu forum, didn't solve it for me
[21:54] <brontoeee> sark666, why not just upgrade the vlc?
[21:54] <eugenekorpan> I have windows on the same machine  - internet is fine
[21:54] <erUSUL> !version | sark666
[21:54] <n00ber> is there some sort of port i need to open?
[21:55] <sark666> yes but packages are outdated
[21:55] <blakkheim> sark666: if it's earlier than 8.04 i'd recommend a reinstall with 10.04 to be honest
[21:55] <sark666> unless there's an easy way to get latest vlc on an old ubuntu
 I can't watch anything such as DVD's on my computer wither
[21:55] <sark666> it's the old package problem...
[21:55] <Alysha> *either
[21:55] <blakkheim> Alysha: sudo aptitude -y install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[21:55] <sark666> i don't want to get him to compile.
[21:55] <guntbert> n00ber: you need to tell your problem all in *one line* or else no one will be able to follow across a whole page
[21:56] <n00ber> :S ok
[21:56] <sark666> brontoeee, is there an easy way to get latest vlc on old ubuntu?
[21:56] <Alysha> My dad set the software up on my computer
[21:56] <Alysha> and he didn't know why the problem was
[21:56] <blakkheim> Alysha: open a terminal and run that command i just sent
[21:56] <keshav> My question: I want to learn Linux Server administration. Now I have some experience in linux commandline, very little to be honest. Thing is, I'm interested in server management and not desktop. But should I learn all the commandline stuff first? I mean, should I spend more time on the desktop to learn the commandline before I venture into servers?
[21:56] <Alysha> Which command?
[21:57] <blakkheim> Alysha: sudo aptitude -y install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[21:57] <david_> I changed the height of my gnome panel and now it is two colors and the transparency effects dont work on many of the applets can anyone hlep?
[21:57] <david_> *help
[21:57] <blakkheim> keshav: you definitely want commandline knowledge for server admin
[21:57] <Alysha> ok thanks
[21:57] <n00ber> I have install et-linux-2.60.x86.run(game) I can host and play by myself, when try to join a server, the game shutdown while connecting and downloading the map.  I tried the help page on ubuntu forum, didn't work. sometimes i get stuck on downloading and most of the time just shutdown. do i need to open some sort of a port or something?
[21:58] <keshav> blakkheim: I think so too. Thanks!
[21:58] <Alysha> It is telling me it si already installed
[21:58] <jigal> how can i find out in which directory pear is installed?
 It is telling me it si already installed
[21:59] <n00ber> if someone is looking to help me plz let me know.
[21:59] <tomoyuki28jp> How can I control brightness from command line? I am willing to install new package.
[21:59] <bobstro> keshav:  you can learn a lot on a desktop using command line that will apply to server, and most of what you can run on server can run on workstation anyhow. just as long as you're learning, you should do fine.
[21:59] <brontoeee> keshav, desktop will just force you into easy ways, so better just setup a remote test box and ssh away
[22:00] <n00ber> i wonder if the nick i used makes people fear to help me.  lol
[22:01] <keshav> sounds like a good idea. brontoeee
[22:01] <keshav> bobstro Thanks!
[22:01] <Alysha> @blakkheim??
[22:01] <n00ber> ok let's try again
[22:01] <n00ber> I have install et-linux-2.60.x86.run(game) I can host and play by myself, when try to join a server, the game shutdown while connecting and downloading the map.  I tried the help page on ubuntu forum, didn't work. sometimes i get stuck on downloading and most of the time just shutdown. do i need to open some sort of a port or something?  please help.  if you are going to help plz let me know.
[22:01] <gmachine_24> Hi - I need to find the latest versions of mono or at least packages such as libglib because I am having problems installing a program because it "depends on libglib2.0-cil (>= 2.12.7); however: Version of libglib2.0-cil on system is 2.12.1-2"
[22:02] <Lunar_Lamp> keshav: the server and desktop are really no different.  Basically, a ubuntu desktop is a ubuntu server with a GUI running on it, and a few desktop apps for things like playing your music.
[22:02] <guntbert> n00ber: you need to be patient :-) there is not a ready answer to every problem
[22:02] <wedwo> n00ber, everyone here is a volunteer - if they don't know how to help you they can't. Be patient and sooner r later someone who can will join the channel
[22:02] <n00ber> ok, ty at least now i know someone is looking for me
[22:02] <n00ber> sorry for causing trouble
[22:03] <n00ber> i just wasn't sure if i was waiting for nothing or not
[22:03] <bazhang> n00ber, what is the games full name
[22:03] <Dice-Man> hi
[22:03] <n00ber> enemy territory
[22:03] <jigal> how can i find out in which directory pear is installed?
[22:03] <Dice-Man> i have troubles to make my webcam run on the website tinychat
[22:03] <gmachine_24> pearl?
[22:03] <keshav> Lunar_Lamp, on desktop, don't you 'have to install' applications that may be required by the server?
[22:04] <Lunar_Lamp> keshav: there are some applications that are installed on the server by default that aren't on the desktop by default, but they're fundamentally the same systems.
[22:04] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnemyTerritory  n00ber have a read
[22:04] <keshav> Lunar_Lamp, ah, alright!
[22:04] <bobstro> keshav:  biggest difference i can think of between server and workstation is the networking configuration. if you install a gui on server, you won't be able to get the compiz effects. other than that, they're pretty much the same.
[22:05] <bobstro> keshav:  server just has less 'stuff' installed by default.
[22:05] <keshav> bobstro I see. Compiz is funny. :P
[22:05] <ActionParsnip> Dice-Man: does it work in cheese?
[22:05] <n00ber> bazhang, i spent almost 2 hours on that page last night, with no luck
[22:05] <Dice-Man> ActionParsnip, yep
[22:05] <guntbert> !server | keshav read for yourself :)
[22:06] <andybiker> hi all!
[22:06] <Dice-Man> ActionParsnip, my webcam is detected natively
[22:06] <andybiker> Any linux users in Berkshire UK? See andybiker.blogspot.com and come along to the users group meeting on 13 October!
[22:06] <bazhang> n00ber, then detail, on a single line, exactly what part you could not do.
[22:06] <Dice-Man> i think it's a problem of permission
[22:06] <djbeenie> is gnome-shell removed from 10.4?
[22:06] <guntbert> !ot | andybiker
[22:06] <bazhang> andybiker, dont paste here
[22:06] <ActionParsnip> Dice-Man: does it work in other sites?
[22:06] <Dice-Man> ActionParsnip, yes
[22:06] <guntbert> andybiker: and don't ever advertise here please
[22:06] <andybiker> I'm advertising Linux, what's the prob!
[22:06] <Dice-Man> ActionParsnip, i tryied under windows
[22:07] <Dice-Man> it run
[22:07] <n00ber> establishing connection with a server and downloading the map
[22:07] <bazhang> andybiker, try your loco
[22:07] <ActionParsnip> Dice-Man: then i'd contact the site, or try a different browser
[22:07] <Dice-Man> i use firfefox
[22:07] <bazhang> andybiker, it has nothing to do with ubuntu technical support
[22:07] <andybiker> maybe they'll get some there.
[22:07] <ActionParsnip> Dice-Man: try chrome or opera or something else
[22:08] <bazhang> !loco > andybiker
[22:08] <n00ber> bazhang : establishing connection with a server and downloading the map, also i don't see anything in hardware drivers
[22:08] <jigal> how can i find out in which directory pear is installed?
[22:08] <bazhang> n00ber, do you have a system capable of running it?
[22:10] <n00ber> yes, my mother board is 32bit i believe, is the game any higher?
[22:10] <bazhang> n00ber, the video card?
[22:11] <Alysha> Who her like JLS?
[22:11] <bazhang> Alysha, what is that
[22:11] <Alysha> bazhang: it is a band
[22:11] <marek_> hello boys
[22:11] <rovar> l
[22:11] <Alysha> bazhang: as in musical
[22:11] <bazhang> Alysha, its completely offtopic here
[22:12] <marek_> whats up??
[22:12] <Alysha> bazhang: I do apologise but I can't find the chat
[22:12] <guntbert> marek_: hi,  Do you have an ubuntu support question?
[22:12] <bazhang> Alysha, try #defocus or #ubuntu-offtopic then
[22:12] <n00ber> bazhang,  radeon x800 pro
[22:12] <undecim> Is there some way to let me unlock screensaver when a specific thumb drive is inserted?
[22:12] <Alysha> bazhang: Thanks :)
[22:12] <sedeki> I'm running wubi but it's downloading "amd64" which is a bit strange
[22:13] <sedeki> since I don't have a 64 system
[22:13] <bazhang> n00ber, and where is the map hosted
[22:16]  * nanomachine is away: I'm busy
[22:16] <bazhang> nanomachine, disable that
[22:17]  * nanomachine is back (gone 00:00:03)
[22:18] <ActionParsnip> !away > nanomachine
[22:18] <PandaBeer> Hey I'm trying to link something on my other hard drive to my current one but it keeps linking onto the other directory. THe command I'm using is "ln -s /home/Fred /media/disk/home/OldFred"
[22:18] <PandaBeer> I keep getting "Fred" linked in "OldFred"
[22:19] <n00ber> :S
[22:19] <ActionParsnip> PandaBeer: ln -s /path/to/source /path/to/dest
[22:20] <n00ber> what in the world.   all of a sudden my skype isn't working
[22:20] <ActionParsnip> PandaBeer: your command will make a symlink of Oldfred in /media/disk/home/OldFred   if OldFred is a folder, the link will be made in the folder
[22:20] <n00ber> is it possible to get hacked while being on this chat server?
[22:20] <pankaj_sharma> n00ber: trash that
[22:20] <n00ber> lol
[22:20] <PandaBeer> ActionParsnip: ln: target `/home/Fred/' is not a directory: No such file or directory
[22:20] <n00ber> and how would i talk to people over sees?
[22:20] <ActionParsnip> PandaBeer: i find it easier to cd to the containing folder and just run: ln -s /path/to/folder
[22:20] <n00ber> seas*
[22:21] <kobe_> bonjour
[22:21] <n00ber> pankaj_sharma, do you have something better?
[22:21] <sedeki> bonjour
[22:21] <PandaBeer> ActionParsnip: That worked :p
[22:21] <sedeki> ou bon soir
[22:21] <owner> I'm having some problems with a Windows7 and Ubuntu installing a dual boot system
[22:21] <PandaBeer> ActionParsnip: Just was in /home and remobed the last part. Thanks
[22:21] <kobe_> :p
[22:21] <Braber01> !ubuntu fr | kobe_
[22:21] <ActionParsnip> PandaBeer: glad you got the gold :)
[22:22] <kobe_> english only, here ?
[22:22] <ActionParsnip> !details | owner
[22:22] <PandaBeer> ActionParsnip: Now how do I log out... :p
[22:22] <ActionParsnip> !english | kobe
[22:22] <bazhang> kobe_, yes
[22:22] <X-Sleepy-X> !fr | kobe_
[22:22] <kobe_> thx
[22:23] <n00ber> bazhang sorry i lost connecting
[22:23] <Estragon> OMG ctrl + alt + d doesnt work anymore on maverick Oo
[22:23] <n00ber> i believe radeo x800 is supported by the game
[22:23] <owner> The notebook came with Win7 installed I'm trying to install Ubuntu 10.04
[22:23] <ActionParsnip> !maverick | Estragon
[22:23] <ActionParsnip> owner: win7 can resize its own partitions to make space
[22:24] <n00ber> bazhang, i believe radeon x800 is supported by the game, because i could play by myself just fine
[22:24] <isionous> I can't seem to get this urbanterror package out of my repository even though I commented out the getdeb line in /etc/apt/sources.list and told synaptic to reload
[22:24] <isionous> is there some special apt-cache command I need to run?
[22:25] <ActionParsnip> isionous: sudo apt-get update
[22:25] <rizzuh> Use aptitude guys...
[22:25] <ActionParsnip> rizzuh: both are fine
[22:25] <isionous>  ActionParsnip: still there
[22:26] <antibody> Hi i'm trying to remove a broken package..but I dunno how I did a sudo dpkg --remove --force all nvidia-bl-dkms
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> isionous: sup
[22:26] <antibody> but....
[22:26] <isionous> ActionParsnip, is there more info I can give you?
[22:26] <antibody> doesn't work
[22:26] <sedeki> is there a good office program? i mean, open office really suck. and so does koffice
[22:26] <antibody> Error! There are no instances of module: nvidia_bl
[22:26] <sedeki> and is it possbile to view pdfs in emacs in a terminal window?
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> sedeki: google docs or abiword / gnumeric
[22:26] <quintale> gdocs rules :)
[22:26] <rizzuh> sedeki, OO is the only good one...
[22:26] <sedeki> gdocs does not rule
[22:26] <blackhawk0042> So my ubuntu keeps crashing and I dont know why or where to start looking, can anyone help?
[22:26] <quintale> why?
[22:27] <ActionParsnip> isionous: what is the output of: apt-cache search urban
[22:27] <sedeki> there is no good one
[22:27] <rizzuh> sedeki, run MS Office in a VM then.
[22:27] <rizzuh> sedeki, nothing native that better than OO.
[22:27] <ActionParsnip> sedeki: theres zoho too
[22:27] <isionous> ActionParsnip, I got 4 packages: gramofile, grzrt, python-nodebox-web, and r-cran-domc
[22:28] <ActionParsnip> isionous: then it's not there unless its known as something else
[22:28] <owner> The harddrive that came with the notebook, (Ubuntu shows) that there are two loaders installed Windows7 loader and Vista loader
[22:28] <coolguy_> what is the difference between 10.10 and 10.04
[22:28] <isionous> ActionParsnip, the urbanterror package shows up in synaptic package manager
[22:28] <blackhawk0042> So my ubuntu keeps crashing and I dont know why or where to start looking, can anyone help?
[22:28] <owner> Are both 'loaders' needed?
[22:28] <ActionParsnip> isionous: then remove it if you don't want it
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> coolguy_: http://techie-buzz.com/foss/whats-new-in-ubuntu-10-10-maverick-meerkat-alpha-3.html
[22:29] <coolguy_> thanks man
[22:29] <isionous> ActionParsnip, oh, weird...it's not installed but there is an option to remove it
[22:29] <isionous> ActionParsnip, I feel a bit silly
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> isionous: what is the output of:  dpkg -l | grep -i urban
[22:30] <Skaperen> I do not have anywhere I can install Ubuntu 10.10 candidate, yet, but I am wondering if someone who did, has tested the 256 heads bug to see if it was fixed
[22:30] <megadevil> hello
[22:30] <isionous> ActionParsnip, and now it is gone; I think you solved it; many thanks
[22:30] <ActionParsnip> isionous: no worries dude :)
[22:30] <isionous> ActionParsnip, that command produces no output
[22:30] <ActionParsnip> isionous: then no package in your system contains the word urban or any mix of case
[22:30] <blackhawk0042> So my ubuntu is starting to crash, but I dont know why
[22:30] <megadevil> does anyone know if there is any boot parameter to disable 32 / 64 bit check ?
[22:30] <ActionParsnip> !maverick | Skaperen
[22:31] <blackhawk0042> Things just stop responding
[22:31] <Skaperen> ActionParsnip: OK, t/y
[22:31] <isionous> ActionParsnip, ...so why was it that urbanterror was showing up in synaptic but not through apt-cache?
[22:31] <randomOfAmber> how do I enable a wireless device from the command line? lshw -C netowrk shows it (*-network:1 DISABLED)
[22:32] <ActionParsnip> isionous: not sure, ive not used synaptic since I learned apt-get
[22:32] <isionous> ActionParsnip, yeah, synaptic is kind of slow
[22:33] <bobstro> randomOfAmber:  are you using wep or wpa?
[22:33] <ActionParsnip> isionous: i can search with apt-cache and install with apt-get :)
[22:33] <MiMa1> l
[22:33] <blackhawk0042> my task bar just crashed can anyone help? All I have open is this window
[22:33] <isionous> ActionParsnip, right, but I do like synaptic's ease of use and that it's kind of a one stop to search, install, and look at package properties
[22:34] <eugenekorpan> doesn anybody know where can I download drivers for matherboard?
[22:34] <ActionParsnip> !resetpanel | blackhawk0042
[22:34] <isionous> ActionParsnip, I do want to use the cli tools more and synaptic less as time goes by though
[22:34] <randomOfAmber> bobstro: wpa
[22:34] <ActionParsnip> isionous: cli is very powerful if you can harness it :)
[22:34] <blackhawk0042> whats the short cut for the terminal if my task bar is gone?
[22:34] <bobstro> randomOfAmber:  you will want to look into iwconfig and wpa_supplicant
[22:35] <bobstro> randomOfAmber:  you may end up doing it differently than the network manager approach.
[22:35] <ga> new to ubuntu...but anyone know why mutt times out when trying to send, but can connect to view inbox etc?
[22:35] <bobstro> randomOfAmber:  is it not recognized ?
[22:35] <lanoxx> is there an easy way to configure per user language settings in ubuntu
[22:36] <SimboL> hello all :D.
[22:36] <lanoxx> if possible even do this at user creation time
[22:36] <arrrghhh> trying to add an init.d script, and i have the script in there... i can read it, all the permissions look correct.  but when i try to execute it, I get "No such file or directory" - what is going on!?!
[22:37] <isionous> ActionParsnip, yeah, you're preaching to the choir; I don't know what I'd do without gnu screen (well, I'd probably use tmux...)
[22:37] <isionous> ActionParsnip, thanks again
[22:37] <ActionParsnip> np bro
[22:37] <kobe_> bye
[22:37] <arrrghhh> probably the most maddening thing is i can autocomplete it with tab, so i KNOW it's there.
[22:38] <randomOfAmber> bobstro: it says it's just disabled
[22:38] <randomOfAmber> bobstro: ifconfig eth1 up :) did the tric
[22:38] <randomOfAmber> trick*
[22:38] <owner> when installing dual windows7 and ubuntu, no option for "Install them side by side choosing between them each startup" why?
[22:39] <antibody> Hi my packages are broken, what can I do to solve this? http://pastebin.com/XX1FQUfW I can't install anything else now
[22:39] <bobstro> randomOfAmber:  is it showing in network manager now?
[22:39] <ikonia> owner: you have no unalloctaed space on the drive
[22:40] <randomOfAmber> bobstro: in nm-applet? I'm not running a gui at the moment
[22:40] <sms> I'm running foobar2k on WINE, and the visualizations are a bit laggy.. Is this something that could be fixed?
[22:40] <bobstro> randomOfAmber:  ok. if you intend to, you'll probably want it showing in applet. if not, you can configure it in /etc/network/interfaces.
[22:40] <ActionParsnip> sms: i'd check the appdb and ask in #winehq
[22:41] <bobstro> randomOfAmber:  so it connected via wpa?
[22:41] <pierpaolo> film Disney
[22:41] <bobstro> randomOfAmber:  you must have had it configured previously, no?
[22:41] <owner> I created two partitions one 512k for the root and on partition 100gb for ubuntu
[22:41] <sms> ok I'll do that, thanks
[22:42] <randomOfAmber> bobstro: no, so I should configure it in /etc/network/interfaces?
[22:42] <bobstro> randomOfAmber:  well how do you intent to use it most of the time? the network manager/applet is convenient from the gui.
[22:43] <bobstro> randomOfAmber:  also, did wpa work?
[22:43] <owner> yes the 100gb was unalloctaed
[22:43] <antibody> :s Is there anyway of remove a package from the "package" index file..like if it wasn't installed?
[22:43] <antibody> dpkg apt-get ....synaptic..I can't remove a stupid broken package even with dpkg --force-all --remove...
[22:43] <randomOfAmber> bobstro: it said it did... but I'm not connected.  and yes, I will be using this for my main connection
[22:43] <antibody> Help!!
[22:44] <wolfric_> anyway to delete all files recursively without deleting the containing directories
[22:44] <wolfric_> i'm trying to clean all the log files
[22:44] <bobstro> randomOfAmber:  will you be using the gui normally?
[22:44] <randomOfAmber> bobstro: no
[22:44] <erUSUL> wolfric_: find dir/ -type f -exec echo rm {} +
[22:44] <erUSUL> wolfric_: when you are satisfied with the output drop the echo
[22:44] <bobstro> randomOfAmber:  i found it would say it connected, but only as peer-to-peer. i had to futz with wpa_supplicant to get a headless machine setup.
[22:45] <Hydrozii> my computer is 114 c
[22:45] <Hydrozii> is that bad?
[22:45] <froud>  letmein2
[22:45] <ActionParsnip> owner: win7 can resize its own partitions. I suggest you use that after backing up what you have
[22:45] <brontoeee> erUSUL, echo command is simulation?
[22:45] <bobstro> Hydrozii:  if it really is, i'd check out why
[22:45] <meh3> would changing the hostname of my ubuntu cause any trouble?
[22:45] <meh3> problems
[22:45] <Hydrozii> it really is and its because i was playing minecraft
[22:46] <erUSUL> brontoeee: no it echos (print to screen) what you pass to it.
[22:46] <bobstro> Hydrozii:  check for dead fans and such
[22:46] <ActionParsnip> meh3: no as long as you change /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname at the same time
[22:46] <Hydrozii> as soon as i  close minecraft it starts cooling down to like 70s
[22:46] <Hydrozii> i can hear my fan working...
[22:46] <lilpod> I installed a few K educational apps and now it looks like I am using K instead of Gnome !?!
[22:46] <meh3> ActionParsnip, do i need to do anything after the change?
[22:46] <brontoeee> erUSUL, right so rm is just a string in this case right?
[22:46] <bobstro> Hydrozii:  check for clogged cpu heatsink and such
[22:46] <ActionParsnip> meh3: give it a reboot
[22:47] <randomOfAmber> bobstro: what should I do?  I'm using -ieth1 and -c/my/conf/file now as the only args to wpa_supplicant
[22:47] <erUSUL> brontoeee: yes
[22:47] <bobstro> Hydrozii:  also, be sure it's reading celsius and not farenheit
[22:47] <Hydrozii> i took my labtop apart after a year of use about a month ago and cleaned it but it was in pretty good shape
[22:47] <bobo123> anyone, knows things about vlc here? (I asked in #videolan but noone seems to be awake there): I have an avi here with multiple subtitles included in it, vlc do lists the 3 subtitles in its video/subtitle-menu, but when I select any of them, no text is rendered. I think I viewed it with in ubuntu7.04 three years ago or so (with working subtitle) I'm not 100% sure though, it could have been in MediaPlayerClassic back when I still used Windows. No
[22:47] <bobstro> randomOfAmber:  there are some good howtos. iirc, it was a combination of /etc/network/interfaces and using pre and post-up scripts to load wpa_supplicant.
[22:47] <randomOfAmber> bobstro: now it says 'reauth' like it reconnected.  but 'ping google.com' still doesn't do anything
[22:47] <Hydrozii> and its definitly celsius
[22:48] <ellion1> how can I see the list of samba users in my pc ?
[22:48] <bobstro> randomOfAmber:  did you set up wpa_supplicant?
[22:48] <owner> I used win7 to partitions my space.  end result was: System, C:\ current windows7, 512k for the root (for ubuntu), and 100gb unallocated.
[22:48] <ikonia> bobstro: you may want to contact the vlc support resources
[22:48] <delinquentme> OMGZ missed you gusy!!
[22:49] <ikonia> owner: if you have unallocated space the ubuntu installer should allow you to install dual boot
[22:49] <bobstro> owner:  512 *K*?
[22:49] <bobo123> perhaps MB :-)
[22:49] <randomOfAmber> bobstro: I used wpa_passphrase to make /etc/wpa_suppllicant/wpa_supplicant.conf
[22:50] <ellion1> how can I see the list of samba users in my pc ?
[22:50] <bobstro> randomOfAmber:  you have ssid etc in there?
[22:51] <bobstro> randomOfAmber:  i also found using text of psk rather than the wpa_passphrase worked. no idea why tho.
[22:51] <bobstro> randomOfAmber:  i set ssid, scan_ssid, key_mgmt and psk parameters.
[22:51] <randomOfAmber> bobstro: everything wpa_passphrase generated, (ssid and psk)
[22:52] <bobstro> randomOfAmber:  try cleartext passphrase in quotes. mine takes a while to successfully connect. you may need to kill old wpa supplicants.
[22:52] <ska_> HOw do I boot into the Grub menu? ESC doesnt work
[22:52] <bobo123> ellion1: perhaps system-config-samba show that?
[22:53] <ActionParsnip> ska_: hold shift at boot
[22:53] <erUSUL> ska_: try "shift" in grub2
[22:53] <randomOfAmber> just "cleartext passphrase" from the cli?
[22:54] <owner> trying again with out the 512k ..  booting off flashdrive to ubuntu
[22:54] <zopenkeOnUbuntu> hello
[22:54] <bobstro> randomOfAmber:  here's what my interfaces wound up looking like - http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/XQrj2gAT
[22:54] <ellion1> bobo123, thank you ! I'll try it !
[22:54] <bobo123> ellion1: if not, iftop should list all computers that communicate with your, including with samba
[22:55] <quark_> hey
[22:55] <quark_> some one there?
[22:55] <bobstro> randomOfAmber:  here's my wpa_supplicant config file - http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/DRLyLQhx
[22:56] <quark_> can ear me?
[22:56] <bobstro> quark_:  i assure you, yes
[22:56] <quark_> new to IRC, can you ear me?
[22:56] <bobstro> randomOfAmber:  mine's a removable usb wlan adapter, so you may not want hotplug.
[22:57]  * bobo123 is earing quark_ :-)
[22:57] <quark_> thx bobo123
[22:57] <bobstro> quark_:  you want a wet willie?
[22:57] <ellion1> bobo123, thank you it works !
[22:57] <owner> during install, after keyboard layout, still no option for "install them side by side".  why?  I have 100gb unallocated space displayed (according to win7)
[22:57] <randomOfAmber> bobstro: yeah I don't know.  I'll have to read up on network/interfaces and wpa_supplicant
[22:57] <rovar> blarg
[22:57] <rovar> apparently wireshark now hangs my leenucks box
[22:57] <bobstro> randomOfAmber:  as i said, network manager is more 'friendly' but this will work.
[22:58] <shai> Hi :) How can I disable gnome (ie. X) from starting after boot? In debian I used to edit /etc/inittab and change the runlevel, but this doesn't work for Ubuntu 10.04 ...
[22:58] <randomOfAmber> bobstro: yeah, I have to go now.  I'll hopefull be back here tonight and finish this up.  thanks for the help so far!
[22:59] <ActionParsnip> shai: edit the boot options and add: single    then run: sudo update-grub
[22:59] <erUSUL> shai: appen textmode to kernel options in /etc/default/grub then run « sudo update-grub »
[23:00] <ActionParsnip> shai: sorry, it's: text
[23:00] <ActionParsnip> shai: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+question/127595
[23:00] <ActionParsnip> solved by yours truly 8-)
[23:04] <shai> ActionParsnip, erUSUL: thanks guys... worked.
[23:04] <owner> during install, after keyboard layout, still no option for "install them side by side".  why?  I have 100gb unallocated space displayed (according to win7)
[23:04] <erUSUL> shai: no problem
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> owner: did you check the CD for defects?
[23:05] <owner> booting from usb flashdrive. did a md5 and it was correct.
[23:08] <ActionParsnip> owner: you can check the USB for consistancy
[23:08] <bobo123> I have an avi here with multiple subtitles included in it, vlc(1.06 in ubuntu10.04) do lists the 3 subtitles in its video/subtitle-menu, but when I select any of them, no text is rendered. What can I do?
[23:09] <owner> consistancy, how?
[23:09] <shai> ActionParsnip, is the andrew [dot] org ; blog yours?
[23:09] <ActionParsnip> shai: never heard of it, sorry
[23:10] <shai> Thought you had solved it.. you said...
[23:10] <ska_> Can I put an entry into my /etc/network/interfaces without the network-manager getting confused?
[23:10] <ska_> I'm trying to fix an NMI problem in my Wlan interface.
[23:10] <shai> ActionParsnip, or did you just link to andrew's blog in the bug report?
[23:10] <shai> s/bug/question
[23:10] <ActionParsnip> shai: what bug?
[23:10] <ActionParsnip> question...
[23:10] <shai> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+question/127595
[23:11] <shai> ActionParsnip, that's the URL you sent me to ... in which you sourced Andrew's blog ...
[23:11] <ActionParsnip> shai: its just a link to a fix dude
[23:11] <ActionParsnip> shai: showing where I got my info
[23:11] <shai> Fair enough... thought you were Andrew :)
[23:12] <ActionParsnip> shai: my name IS andrew, but it's not mine
[23:12] <shai> lol
[23:12] <shai> So you MUST see where my confusion comes from then ... (though I didn't realize your name IS Andrew as well!)
[23:12] <shai> Small world... ah?
[23:12] <Noble> Where is all the config files stored for evolution? I remove
[23:12] <shai> Anyways, cheers for the help.
[23:13] <Noble> I remove ~/.evolution, but still it finds my account
[23:13] <erUSUL> Noble: gconf
[23:13] <sms> You know if you click the scrollwheel in windows, you get this scroll slider thing? Is there such a thing in ubuntu?
[23:13] <ActionParsnip> Noble: look in ~/.config too
[23:14] <[thor]> sms: middle-click is "paste" by default in gnome
[23:14] <alfonso> hi
[23:14] <priyanka1> hi
[23:14] <alfonso> anyone willing to give me a hand?
[23:14] <Noble> erUSUL: Only the evolution folder? If i rm that it STILL finds my settings.
[23:14]  * ActionParsnip applauds alfonso
[23:15] <cela0811> if im using kubuntu, should i use this channel, or is there a different one?
[23:15] <coz_> alfonso,  just say what the issues are and hopefully soneone will grab onto it :)
[23:15] <sms> Oh
[23:15] <coz_> cela0811,  there is a #kubuntu channel
[23:15] <alfonso> I'm trying to make my Realtek wi-fi card work
[23:15] <cela0811> thanks
[23:15] <Lauterino> The bug asignee is a microsoft employee: http://www.google.se/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CBUQFjAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fbugs.launchpad.net%2Fubuntu%2F%2Bsource%2Fgadmin-bind%2F%2Bbug%2F326645&rct=j&q=gadmin-bind%20simon%20ravyn&ei=Fq6nTPPzPMje4gbzlcy8DQ&usg=AFQjCNHq5zuUq_Bvmks27Fyt1L7NilDXHw&cad=rja
[23:15] <erUSUL> Noble: gconf-editor aps>evolution
[23:15] <alfonso> but the connection is lost after a few hours and I have to restart the computer
[23:15] <Chaos2358> what do i need to install to be able to unzip .rar files?
[23:15] <ActionParsnip> alfonso: what realtek chip does it use?
[23:15] <priyanka1> what will be the addtinal features of upcoming 10.10 ubuntu?????
[23:15] <alfonso> Realtek 8185
[23:15] <priyanka1> any one
[23:15] <Noble> erUSUL: Err, I just want to purge my old settings..
[23:15] <ActionParsnip> Chaos2358: sudo apt-get install rar unrar
[23:16] <alfonso> I tried ndiswrapper with windows drivers but didn't work
[23:16] <Chaos2358> actionparsnip thank you
[23:16] <ActionParsnip> Chaos2358: you can now use gui or you can use:  rar x filename.rar
[23:16] <alfonso> It didn't even recognize my card with ndiswrapper
[23:16] <james333james> hey I need to create a launcher
[23:16] <james333james> Can anybody help me?
[23:17] <ActionParsnip> james333james: right click the desktop -> new launcher
[23:17] <Ken8521> james333james, it's pretty straight forward.... right click desktop, click Create Launcher
[23:17] <alfonso> I compiled and installed the Realtek linux drivers but the connection is lost after a while
[23:17] <Chaos2358> Wow i love the ubuntu support. good luck getting anything close with windows or mac
[23:17] <alfonso> i know the card works because I've used it for months on Windows 7
[23:17] <james333james> ActionParsnip: yes i know this but my problem is that the file is on a directory and for lauch it i got to go in that directory and launch from the shell ./cacaoweb.linux
[23:18] <Ken8521> alfonso, well, wether it works w/ win7, is totally irrelevant.. is it internal, USB, etc?
[23:18] <james333james> ActionParsnip:  what should i wrote in the command line of the launche icon to launch my program
[23:18] <tekemperor> does anyone know how to do error recovery by default in yacc/bison?
[23:18] <alfonso> It's a PCI card
[23:18] <erUSUL> Noble: do « alt + f2 » in the dialog go to apps>evolution. in there you will see all the old settingsd
[23:18] <Ken8521> james333james, whatever command you write in the terminal to launch the program
[23:18] <Ken8521> alfonso, ok.. open a terminal and type "lspci" no quotes, hit enter... and see what chipset your wireless card is.
[23:19] <blacktooth> hello all
[23:19] <ActionParsnip> james333james: point the launcher to the file or script you want to launch
[23:19] <alfonso> 04:05.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8185 IEEE 802.11a/b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 20)
[23:19] <james333james> Ken8521:  if i write the command that i need ( ./cacaoweb.linux ) outside of that directory the program wont start
[23:19] <alfonso> there
[23:19] <Ken8521> james333james, so put the directory and the command there?.. it won't hurt anything
[23:20] <DrDamnit> Changed wife's laptop from XP to Ubuntu Netbook remix. If I don't find the Linux version of MS Picture Manager, she'll kill me, and no one will find the body. What's the Linux version of MS Picture Manager?
[23:20] <Ken8521> !realtek | alfonso
[23:20] <james333james> Ken8521:  Just the last question: What means the command "./" before an executable?
[23:20] <ActionParsnip> alfonso: http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=1&PFid=1&Level=6&Conn=5&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false&Downloads=true    You can compile the driver using that source
[23:20] <Ken8521> could mean anything...
[23:20] <DrDamnit> james333jame: the "./" tells linux to execute the command in the current directory.
[23:20] <blacktooth> DrDamnit eyeofgnome
[23:20] <erUSUL> DrDamnit: f-spot ? gthumb ?
[23:21] <erUSUL> DrDamnit: picasa for linux; shotwell ? there are few picture managers
[23:21] <DrDamnit> erUSUL: she doesn't like f-spot, and for some reason it won't read 14 megapixel pictures. They are fuzzy like poor tv reception.
[23:21] <alfonso> Yes, actionParsnip, I'm using the compiled drivers right now
[23:21] <DrDamnit> installing eyeofgnome, gthummb, and picasa.
[23:21] <alfonso> but it only works for some hours
[23:21] <DrDamnit> any other suggestions?
[23:21] <Chaos2358> ok can someone tell me how to install something onto the root of an sd card? just format the card and move the files over right?
[23:21] <alfonso> I'm going to try the other link
[23:22] <erUSUL> DrDamnit: eye of gnome is the  default picture viewer of gnome
[23:22] <owner> How do I check my ubuntu flashdrive for consistancy?
[23:22] <DrDamnit> erUSUL: she just wants to correct for red-eye, and size it down to email out.
[23:22] <Ken8521> alfonso, my experience, realtek wireless devices are very shaky w/ Linux... i'd consider trying to find a intel or atheros card if i were you
[23:23] <aasegarden> how can you play blu-ray movies in Ubuntu?
[23:23] <erUSUL> DrDamnit: my favorite are gthumb; i liked gqview too
[23:23] <Chaos2358> ok can someone tell me how to install something onto the root of an sd card? just format the card and move the files over right?
[23:23] <alfonso> Yes, I tried a lot of things and I did consider just getting another card
[23:23] <erUSUL> DrDamnit: http://www.linux.com/archive/articles/58887
[23:23] <alfonso> either that or moving the computer closer to the router and using an ethernet cable
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> aasegarden: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/BluRayAndHDDVD
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> aasegarden: a real quick websearch would have shown you that
[23:24] <Ken8521> alfonso, well, thats an option t.. just saying, realtek is shaky
[23:24] <Ken8521> at least in my experience
[23:25] <aasegarden> ActionParsnip: true, but it seemed to me like you would have to decrypt the whole movie first. Are there noe plug n play soultions?
[23:25] <ActionParsnip> aasegarden: not sure, i dot use bluray anything
[23:25] <aasegarden> ActionParsnip: I´m gonna use this machine as a media senter, and I do not want to process the movies before I play them
[23:25] <DrDamnit> erUSUL: she just wants to correct for red-eye, and size it down to email out.
[23:26] <DemoOn> hello, can i get back my files if i have deleted them with 'rm -rf' ?
[23:26] <aasegarden> If that´s not possible, I´m afraid Ubuntu ain´t a option - and that´s to bad, cause I really wanted to use Ubuntu for it, since it has some other snaxy features I want
[23:26] <ActionParsnip> aasegarden: then maybe ubuntu isn't the tool for the job
[23:26] <erUSUL> !undelete | DemoOn
[23:26] <ActionParsnip> DemoOn: restore from backup
[23:27] <erUSUL> DrDamnit: i hate to repeat myself ;P but once you did --> gthumb does all that
[23:27] <DemoOn> umm, could there be some important information in /opt folder?
[23:27] <Lauterino> ActionParsnip: Youre new, see to it that bazhangul is removed.
[23:27] <ActionParsnip> laurens: new!!?
[23:27] <erUSUL> DemoOn: /opt/ is usually empty
[23:27] <DemoOn> erUSUL: thank u
[23:27] <ActionParsnip> Lauterino: new!?  how do you get new?
[23:28] <ActionParsnip> Lauterino: i suggest you look at the top 5 contributors on launchpad
[23:28] <Lauterino> ActionParsnip: Ive been coding for OSS since 1995
[23:28] <Lauterino> ActionParsnip: Its not bazhang
[23:28] <Lauterino> ActionParsnip: That idiot does not code at all
[23:29] <amarcolino> just read lucid release notes, has the issue with ext4 being slow and affecting dpkg package manager been sorted out?
[23:29] <prod-beginner> hi all, I am still having troubles gettin my st lab n-210 NIC to work. The website states that it works on linux but even runnin a live cd doesnt get the device working. I only bought it today so i doubt very much that it is broken
[23:29] <Ken8521> amarcolino, i've had no issues w/ ext4 and the package manager
[23:29] <ActionParsnip> Lauterino: i've used linux since mandrake 7 back in 2001, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+topcontributors  and I'm the 2nd highest contributor on Launchpad by a long shot
[23:29] <Lauterino> ActionParsnip: I sincerely hope you arent protecting a known microsoft employee such as "Simon Raven" ?
[23:29] <DrDamnit> erUSUL: thank you for repeating yourself. I missed that.
[23:30] <erUSUL> prod-beginner: what chip does it uses? « lspci | grep -i net »
[23:30] <ActionParsnip> Lauterino: whats the point of all this....
[23:30] <Lauterino> ActionParsnip: Good work dude.
[23:30] <Ken8521> prod-beginner, it may work w/ Linux, but it may require insalling drivers... which often require restarting, so it may not work on a live cd
[23:30] <ActionParsnip> Lauterino: thanks :)
[23:30] <prod-beginner> realtek chip ill get details now
[23:30] <amarcolino> Ken8521, thanks just making sure since I haven't tried ext4
[23:30] <Ken8521> poor realtek fellas.
[23:30] <Ken8521> amarcolino, frankly i didn't have any problems w it in 10.04... but..
[23:31] <Lauterino> ActionParsnip: Keep an eye out for illicit infiltrations. This is all i want. Be well my friend.
[23:31] <ActionParsnip> Lauterino: i'd be higer than Martin Pit tbut he uploads to some space thing which gets him karma
[23:31] <ActionParsnip> Lauterino: and you dude, have fun:)
[23:32] <amarcolino> Ken8521, but... ? Have you noticed excessive hangs, maybe cpu spiking etc which may result from ext4?
[23:32] <Lauterino> ActionParsnip: Im highly sceptical of anything i read or hear. Acknowledged! :)
[23:32] <Ken8521> amarcolino, no, not at all...
[23:32] <bazhang> !ot | Lauterino
[23:33] <ActionParsnip> Lauterino: then youo'll spend too long worrying and not enough time experiencing
[23:33] <Lauterino> bazhang: !ot bazhanging
[23:33] <prod-beginner> gammagraphics inc(or missing id)
[23:33] <bazhang> Lauterino, take chat elsewhere please
[23:33] <amarcolino> Ken8521, than the 'but...' meant? Ok just wanted to make sure by now I would've expected any issues to have been resolved
[23:33] <Ken8521> amarcolino, the but.. meant, but obviously, you've had a different experience
[23:34] <Ken8521> i've had zero probs w/ 10.04 on 3 machines
[23:34] <amarcolino> Ken8521, oh no, not yet and I hope I don't
[23:34] <sms> There's a tiny delay when you open a window from the window list, is this removeable?
[23:34] <JoeSomebody> hi, can someone tell me how to set up ubuntu for an ipod / itunes ? what apps or whatever?
[23:34] <etrnl> so I installed flashplugin-nonfree and still can't get flash support in epiphany
[23:34] <etrnl> is there a step I missed?
[23:34] <|multipass|> I just installed the latest Nvidia drivers, how come they dont show up on the  "Hardware Drivers" screen
[23:35] <erUSUL> !ipod | JoeSomebody
[23:35] <|multipass|> I just installed the latest Nvidia drivers, how come they dont show up on the  "Hardware Drivers" screen, it says "No proprietary drivers are in use on this system"
[23:36] <Lauterino> bazhang: Where is this "Somewhere else" ?
[23:36] <erUSUL> |multipass|: how did you installed them
[23:36] <erUSUL> ?
[23:36] <|multipass|> i went to telinit 3, and installed them from the .run file-- everything went ok. i reboot everythings fine
[23:37] <bazhang> Lauterino, #ubuntu-offtopic , this is for technical ubuntu support only
[23:37] <|multipass|> erUSUL: but i want to check which ones are in use, is there any way to do this?
[23:37] <david_> does anyone know how to get rid of the arrow on the main menu ubuntu 10.10?
[23:37] <erUSUL> |multipass|: you bypassed the "official" methods of installing the drivers. that's why the "Hardware Drivers" program does not know they are installed
[23:37] <bazhang> david_, #ubuntu+1 for that
[23:38] <erUSUL> |multipass|: dmesg | grep -i nvidia
[23:38] <|multipass|> [   11.775058] NVRM: loading NVIDIA UNIX x86_64 Kernel Module  256.53  Fri Aug 27 20:27:48 PDT 2010
[23:38] <|multipass|> looks good i guess :b
[23:38] <JoeSomebody> thanks erUSUL
[23:38] <|multipass|> thanks
[23:39] <erUSUL> no problem both
[23:39] <erUSUL> XD
[23:39] <incognito_> I installe VLC but when I try to navigate to my dvd in my dvd rom ubunto cannot see it. How do I mount the dvd player?
[23:40] <erUSUL> !dvd | incognito_
[23:40] <Ken8521> incognito_, usually when you put a disk in the drive, it auto mounts..
[23:40] <erUSUL> incognito_: for dvd you need to enable madibuntu repo and install libdccs2
[23:40] <erUSUL> !medibuntu | incognito_
[23:40] <Ken8521> erUSUL, but he should still be able to see the disk in VLC, it just won't play
[23:40] <RealOpty> !stable
[23:41] <RealOpty> ?
[23:41] <RealOpty> awesome
[23:41] <RealOpty> ok whats the stable version name atm?
[23:41] <erUSUL> !lucid | RealOpty
[23:41] <RealOpty> ah lucid
[23:41] <RealOpty> ty
[23:41] <RealOpty> !maveric
[23:42] <incognito_> I know about medubuntu. I'v installed it many time, but shouldn't the dvd mount anyways?
[23:42] <RealOpty> and maveric is the new rc yea?
[23:42] <millertimek1a2m3> Hey, if I create an Ad-hoc network
[23:43] <millertimek1a2m3> how do I get the files that the other person has?
[23:43] <millertimek1a2m3> or send them?
[23:43] <millertimek1a2m3> *other person within close physical distance
[23:43] <erUSUL> millertimek1a2m3: use samba/ssh/nfs ?
[23:43] <ActionParsnip> millertimek1a2m3: use samba or sshfs (if the client is linux based)
[23:43] <Ken8521> millertimek1a2m3, i use simpllehttp for that.. it's.. welll, simple
[23:44] <erUSUL> !info giver
[23:44] <incognito_> erUSUL can you just give me the command to mount the DVD player? is  the dvd player going to be sdb sdc or what?
[23:45] <erUSUL> incognito_: /dev/sr0 usually « sudo mount -t auto /dev/sr0 /mount/point/ »
[23:45] <vsMS> Hi! Can somebody help with luzid and softraid?
[23:46] <RealOpty> whats the recommended method of implementing a apt-proxy/cache server?
[23:46] <erUSUL> !aptproxy
[23:46] <RealOpty> ive already done it using apt-proxy, i dont need a guide, but wondering
[23:46] <RealOpty> if theres anything better :)
[23:46] <vsMS> RealOpty: Try aptcacherng-ng
[23:47] <Ken8521> erUSUL, can giver be used for someone that is not on your network?
[23:47] <Lauterino> bazhang: Do you microsofters have an eta on when youll go away mr ballhangs ?
[23:48] <erUSUL> Ken8521: do not think so. is for local network only
[23:48] <erUSUL> Ken8521: for that is better and secure ssh
[23:48] <Ken8521> erUSUL, oh ok.. i was talking about sharing off network
[23:49] <etrnl> so I installed flashplugin-nonfree and still can't get flash support in epiphany
[23:49] <etrnl> anything else I am supposed to do?
[23:49] <bobo123> anyone knows of a thirdparty repository with vlc in it that I can use to get a newer version of vlc?  someone at #videolan said "build VLC yourself, VLC shipped by ubuntu is broken by their package maintainers.", but I'm not sure I dare to compile vlc myself
[23:50] <erUSUL> !ppa | bobo123
[23:50] <xangua> bobo123: google knows http://www.webupd8.org/2010/08/install-vlc-114-in-ubuntu-via-new-ppa.html
[23:50] <Danno> Is this the place to be to get help unstalling Ubuntu? New to Linux, so if anyone has time to help would be appreciated. I only have a couple of questions.
[23:51] <bobo123> xangua:  thanks  :-)
[23:51] <erUSUL> !ask | Danno
[23:51] <rebirth> where is the tomboy plugins folder?
[23:51] <prod-beginner> my NIC is Gammagraphics, Inc. (or missing ID) Device 00809rev10) is now being detected on my 10.04 server install
[23:51] <Fableflame> What's the best program for burning LiveCDs?
[23:51] <prod-beginner> I have googled myself silly and cant seem to find a driver
[23:52] <adrian> hello?
[23:52] <prod-beginner> in windows its a plug and play device and needs no drivers
[23:52] <Ken8521> Fableflame, are you using Windows or Linux, or what.. to burn them?
[23:52] <zaidka> when ubuntu resumes from suspened state, the screen stays off.. any idea?
[23:53] <bobo123> Danno: sure, are you about to install another linux-distribution of os, or what do you want to use the freed diskspace for after you uninstall ubuntu?
[23:53] <bobo123> *or
[23:53] <erUSUL> prod-beginner: gammagraphics does not look like a network chip ... are you sure? ( google can not find  anything )
[23:53] <ActionParsnip> zaidka: using nvidia video card?
[23:53] <Guest20533> i just installed jolicloud, its so fast
[23:53] <zaidka> ActionParsnip: yes
[23:53] <Guest20533> guess never going back to windows
[23:53] <ActionParsnip> zaidka: guess how i knew ;)
[23:53] <bobo123> hello adrian/Guest20533 :-)
[23:54] <zaidka> ActionParsnip: 'cause nvidia is crap?
[23:54] <Guest20533> hello
[23:54] <prod-beginner> the card is packaged as ST lab N-210, on the card there is a realtek chip, and in lspci its gammagraphics |:S
[23:54] <Danno> THanks. I currently have WIndows 7 installed on a 500GB partition. I have another 450GB partition that I use for large file storage. I have a third partition of 50GB where I want to install Ubuntu. I have created a cd and can boot into the graphical install menu. It gives me two options: Install over entire drive (delete existing files) or advanced install. What do I do to install it side by side with windows on the 50GB partition?
[23:54] <Mud> zaidka: nvidia ftw
[23:54] <Mud> at least
[23:55] <Mud> on windows :+
[23:55] <Mud> xD
[23:55] <FloodBot1> Mud: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:55] <ActionParsnip> zaidka: no nvidia is great, just coming out of suspend etc can be painful with their chips
[23:55] <prod-beginner> i will have to remove the card to be more specific on the chip
[23:55] <zaidka> ActionParsnip: so any solution to this?
[23:55] <mattbd> Fableflame: Do you need to burn it at all? Unetbootin lets you install a Linux distro on a USB stick easily
[23:55] <ActionParsnip> zaidka: it's pink but looks promising: http://ubuntulinuxtipstricks.blogspot.com/2008/03/ati-nvidia-resume-good-news-bad-news.html
[23:55] <Fableflame> mattbd, I'm burning it for a friend who doesn't have any working USB ports
[23:56] <zaidka> lol
[23:56] <ActionParsnip> zaidka: you will be hunting for guides like that to get it nice, personally i think suspend is overrated and NOT worth the effort
[23:56] <zaidka> ActionParsnip: the previous ubuntu was fine with this
[23:56] <prod-beginner> should i remove the card and google the chip it has on the NIC?
[23:56] <ActionParsnip> zaidka: log a regression bug then
[23:57] <zaidka> ActionParsnip: also, the screen brightness keys don't work.. any suggestion?
[23:57] <erUSUL> prod-beginner: is a gigabit card ?
[23:57] <prod-beginner> 10/100
[23:57] <ActionParsnip> zaidka: log a bug
[23:57] <ActionParsnip> !shortcut | zaidka
[23:57] <erUSUL> prod-beginner: ok; if it is realtek 10/100 there are two possibilities...
[23:58] <mattbd> Fableflame: OK, on Windows I like InfraRecorder. On Ubuntu Brasero and K3B are both pretty good
[23:58] <prod-beginner> does it help to mention there is a realtek onboard the mobo?
[23:58] <erUSUL> prod-beginner: try this « sudo modprobe 8139too » then run « ifconfig -a » does eth0 appear now ?
[23:59] <erUSUL> prod-beginner: or eth1 if you already have a eth0 from the mobo
[23:59] <bobo123> Danno: yes use the "advanced install" so you can select wich harddisk to install to
[23:59] <prod-beginner> tyvm tryin now