[01:41] <jonrafkind> is it possible to delete source packages uploaded to launchpad in my ppa?
[01:42] <jonrafkind> i uploaded a package that failed, so i rebuilt the package and tried to reupload it but I got a rejection message because I cant upload the same file twice
[01:43] <wgrant> jonrafkind: You can delete them, but it won't let you upload the same version again. That wouldn't make sense.
[01:43] <wgrant> jonrafkind: You need to increment the version.
[01:43] <jonrafkind> so i need to update all the version numbers in control/changelog as well?
[01:44] <wgrant> jonrafkind: It should only be in the changelog.
[01:44] <wgrant> If you have the version elsewhere, you probably have another problem.
[01:44] <jonrafkind> oh ok, what is this: Standards-Version:
[01:44] <jonrafkind> i wasnt sure what it was, i just copied it into my file
[01:44] <wgrant> That specifies the version of Debian Policy with which your package complies. It's not your package's version.
[01:44] <jonrafkind> ok, can I safely delete it?
[01:45] <wgrant> jonrafkind: No.
[01:45] <jonrafkind> what should I set it to?
[01:45] <wgrant> jonrafkind: You should set it properly, though.
[01:45] <wgrant> Normally the latest version of Debian Policy, if your package complies with it.
[01:46] <jonrafkind> which is..?
[01:46] <jonrafkind> i dont think I use 'debian policy', i dont even know what that is
[01:46] <jonrafkind> oh sorry you said 'complies' not 'compiles', haha
[01:47] <wgrant> http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ -- the latest version is 3.9.1.0.
[01:48] <jonrafkind> so if I leave out this field (Standards-Version) will I get a rejection email from launchpad?
[01:49] <wgrant> jonrafkind: No, but you should always have it.
[01:49] <jonrafkind> i dont want to lie and say i comply with something when I have no idea if I comply with it
[01:49] <wgrant> Your package should comply with some version of policy.
[01:50] <jonrafkind> im making a package for my ppa
[01:50] <jonrafkind> i dont really care at this point if i comply with some debian policy
[01:50] <wgrant> If you don't comply then you are likely to break people's systems.
[01:50] <wgrant> It's not that hard to check compliance.
[01:50] <jonrafkind> i dont comply because of copyright issues
[01:50] <jonrafkind> (probably)
[01:51] <wgrant> What do you mean?
[01:51] <jonrafkind> i have a game, i have copyrighted art in it
[01:51] <jonrafkind> that i dont have the copyrights to
[01:51] <wgrant> The PPA Terms of Service forbid you from uploading that.
[01:51] <wgrant> It's not distributable.
[01:52] <jonrafkind> alright fine, ill just upload the source then
[01:53] <wgrant> It's not an "alright fine" sort of thing. It's a "that's not legal and could get people in lots of trouble" thing.
[01:53] <jonrafkind> fine alright
[04:01] <mrooney1> hello! I was just wondering for PPAs if there is a way to say that not all members of a team can upload, for example only administrators?
[04:19] <exarkun> Why can't I branch from launchpad faster than about 80kB/sec?
[04:50] <ub3rst4r> hi does anyone if there is a way to find out the overall total of downloads for ur project?
[04:52] <micahg> ub3rst4r: bug 431011
[04:54] <ub3rst4r> shouldnt that be a blueprint?
[04:55] <ub3rst4r> any idea when this is getting implemented?
[04:56] <micahg> ub3rst4r: when it's ready to be worked on it might be added to one
[04:56] <lifeless> we don't really use blueprints
[04:56] <lifeless> even if we did, we wouldn't do/not do something just because it was/wasn't a blueprint.
[04:56] <wgrant> mrooney1: At the moment you can add uploaders in addition to the owner, but you can't remove the owning team's privileges.
[04:57] <ub3rst4r> kthx
[04:58] <lifeless> wgrant: theres another 50 or so revs coming across to prod on monday,
[04:58] <lifeless> wgrant: up through 11609
[04:58] <wgrant> lifeless: We're 10 days behind on QA?
[04:59] <lifeless> yes
[04:59] <wgrant> (I have a regression fix branch that will probably need CPing soon)
[04:59] <lifeless> 11610 isn't qa'd.
[04:59] <wgrant> Ah.
[05:00] <lifeless> -> airport.
[05:40] <mrooney1> wgrant: ah okay, thanks. I have an open users team for my app and thought that team was a good place for a PPA, until someone pointed out that anyone can upload then and it isn't very secure
[05:41] <mrooney1> is there a good way to move a PPA? I guess if I delete it apt will complain and hopefully the people using it will visit the team page and see a notice I could put up
[05:44] <wgrant> mrooney1: You can't move it, no.
[05:44] <wgrant> Anyone using that PPA probably can't trust their system any more, though.
[05:46] <mrooney1> well, I can see that no one has uploaded anything but me
[05:46] <wgrant> Ah, good.
[05:47] <mrooney1> it was just someone pointing it out
[05:47] <mrooney1> I wonder if it would be worth a warning in LP though, I had not at all put it together than an open team + PPA = anyone can upload, until it was pointed out
[05:47] <wgrant> I think there's a bug for that.
[05:47] <mrooney1> ah ok
[08:55] <paissad> i uploaded a package for lucid, i copied the binaries (from my launchpad account) from Lucid to Maverick ... but i just would like to know if it's still necessary to copy binaries for Karmic or even Jaunty ?
[08:56] <paissad> i think that most people upgraded their version of release .. no ?
[08:56] <wgrant> paissad: Nothing is "necessary" -- do what you want. If you have users on Jaunty or Karmic, copy to them too.
[08:56] <wgrant> But most people should be running Lucid or later, so I wouldn't bother.
[08:57] <paissad> in any case, they just can pick from Lucid or Maverick, that would work too
[12:04] <shadeslayer> hi, my bug watch is failing to sync bug statuses and comments, OOPS-1731CCW9145 and OOPS-1734CCW440
[12:04] <shadeslayer> wrt bug 647332
[19:56] <serfus> is launchpad itself translatable?
[19:58] <james_w> serfus: no, it's not
[19:59] <serfus> james_w, hum, that's a shame... thanks anyway :)