[00:00] 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV350 [Mobility Radeon 9600 M10] [00:00] ok, I've seen other people have problems with 9600 [00:00] mark2010: Do you know if you have fglrx or not? [00:00] believe the open driver after the upgrade to 10.10 [00:00] but you had the closed one before? [00:01] don't know [00:01] what does jockey-text -l say ? [00:01] on 10.04 there were no propietary drivers so i guess it was the open driver [00:02] ok, can you try booting with the kernel option nomodeset [00:03] got no info from jockey-text -l [00:03] ok [00:04] boot to kernal with nomodeset ... how do i do that === cjae is now known as kubuntu1010 [00:05] mark2010: Do you know how to get to the grub menu? [00:05] GRUB shows up fine when i turn the pute on [00:06] this is my kb layout http://imgur.com/LMUVA.png [00:06] or do you mean a file? [00:06] on the left it says, compose and not ctrl [00:06] ok, so in the grub menu it'll let you edit an entry and when it does move down to the kernel line which will probably end in splash quiet and just add on the nomodeset and tell it to boot [00:07] this is on reboot, correct? [00:07] yep [00:08] it won't keep the change so it doesn't matter if it doesn't work [00:09] right after quiet splash or next line? [00:09] mark2010: Same line [00:09] i'll try it. thanx [00:14] androidbruce: shouldn't gnome give a list of keyboard layouts at the same place where you define the keyboard language? [00:14] can't remember where that was exactly [00:15] yofel, yeah i've tried all. im wiping now and reinstalling [00:15] want to get /boot / and ~/ on each partition [00:15] odd.. [00:15] wanna help? [00:15] i have the rc [00:15] im at the install screens now [00:15] anyone else having issue with amarok and no sound? [00:19] Partitioning method [00:19] should i use manual? if i want /boot / ~/ [00:21] could anyone assist with a fresh installation of 10.10 [00:22] i would like to have /boot, / and /home on separate partitions [00:22] penguin42: Perfect...Thank You and all that have helped me! [00:22] mark2010: No problem; can you report a bug for it please? [00:22] how do i do this? [00:23] androidbruce: if you want separate /boot partitions and such then yes [00:23] ActionParsnip, use manual? [00:23] it appears there is one already about white screens in 10.10 [00:23] mark2010: Run ubuntu-bug xserver-xorg-video-ati in a terminal and when it asks for details describe that you get a white screen but you don't if you add nomodeset [00:23] androidbruce: i advise seperate / /home and swap but if you want a separate /boot partition, thats fine. Yes use manual. [00:23] ok [00:23] im on the partition discs screen [00:24] absolutely...let me reboot and make sure BRB [00:24] and right now it's SCSI3 (0,0,0) - 160GB ATA [00:24] #1 primary ext 4 / and #5 logical swap [00:25] how do i specify more partitions [00:27] ahh ok i got [00:27] it [00:27] i have a 160gb drive, what should i specify for each [00:28] any suggestions? [00:30] penguin42: it worked the first time when i used ctrl+x to boot, but it didn't save the file. got white screen on reboot. and the nomodeset was not there. i guess i didn't save it. [00:30] mark2010: Yeh to save it, hmm [00:30] can i just edit the GRUB [00:31] from inside ubuntu? [00:31] mark2010: Edit /etc/default/grub and change GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX to add that and then run update-grub [00:31] ok [00:33] within the quotes i suppose [00:33] yeh, show me the line when you're done [00:34] GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="nomodeset" [00:34] yep [00:34] i'll save [00:35] i'll reboot again. thanks! [00:43] penguin42: still white screen... should i put the text on the same line with quiet splash, maybe. i'm in now under the previous kernel fine [00:44] mark2010: Hmm yes you can try it [00:44] ok [00:46] single space should be fine? [00:46] now reads GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash nomodeset" [00:46] GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="" [00:48] gonna try [00:51] hello everyone [00:52] hey guys when installing does it matter which spot on the disc my partitions are? [00:52] right now i have #1 /boot [00:52] #2 / [00:52] #3 /home [00:52] #4 free [00:52] no, i don't think so [00:52] androidbruce: Best to put /boot first, and earlier is faster in general [00:52] penguin42, i see ok [00:53] i have a GNOME question... [00:53] ask! [00:54] In the Task-tray (where the volume control is) there is an Email icon. [00:54] If I "Remove from Panel" of the Email thingy, it removes the Volume control too. [00:54] brant: It's an Ubuntu-ism [00:55] brant: The thing on the panel isn't actually 2 separate things, it's all part of the indicator-applet [00:55] (although that then splits off to other processes) [00:55] I noticed that the icons are part of the same applet, called Indicator Applet [00:55] How can I choose what goes onto the Indicator Applet? [00:56] brant: I've not found a good answer to that [00:56] I don't use the email icon, but I keep it there so the volume control doesn't go away. [00:56] yeh me too [00:56] thanks penguin42 for all your help. i gotta take a break for a while. thanks again to all. [00:56] i think the email icon is not for email [00:57] Actually, when I click the email icon, it shows nothing in the drop-down (because I removed the email software). [00:57] brant: Yeh if you actually had email software and/or instant messaging it would glue into that [00:58] most people use some sort of messaging, chatting, email ro whatnot software [00:58] yeah, it had some options when I first installed Ubuntu... But the first thing I do after a fresh install is remove software that I'm not going to use. [00:58] bjsnider: I have two machines here [00:58] bjsnider: This one ----> doesn't have mail or messaging on; this one <----- does instant messaging/chat ; and mail I ssh onto a box with mutt [00:58] penguin42, that's good to know. i'll add that to your confidential fbi file [00:59] bjsnider: While the use of sshing to mutt maybe somewhat old school; having two machines doing different things isn't too unusual, so it's not too unusual to have a machine that isn't doing mail/messaging [01:02] ? [01:07] penguin42: it's not uncommon, also means you can ssh in from outside your LAN and check mail local. Ive always been after an X based app with a web interface but I havent found one as yet === Ken8521_ is now known as Ken8521 [01:12] I just installed the RC, but now I can't figure out how to safely exit the livecd. The power menu only has "Suspend" in it. [01:13] erm that's odd [01:13] whereami: If nothing, you can always run sudo shutdown -h now [01:14] I believe that would shutdown [01:14] yeah, that should. [01:14] but why is it missing from the menu? [01:14] sounds like a bug, but from the CD you should actually just be able to hit reset [01:21] whereami: log a bug === takeda is now known as Guest10690 [01:27] hey, anyone using 10.10 on a notebook/netbook ? [01:29] Votan: I installed it earlier today on my netbook (although I didn't install the netboot version) [01:30] penguin42 are you using the laptop-mode-tools ? I don't know if that is still recommended as HAL has been removed from ubuntu and laptop-mode requires it [01:30] Votan: I've been using netbook edition on an off on my laptop. [01:31] Votan: I didn't explicitly install it [01:31] Muscovy i am running the standard version, jsut wondering aobut the laptop-mode-tools package. [01:32] I'm afraid I don't know what that package is. [01:37] hey guys [01:38] i just installed 10.10 [01:38] and im at error file not found [01:38] grub rescue> [01:39] Is btrfs stable yet? [01:39] any ideas? [01:40] why is this happening on a fresh install? [01:41] ? [01:42] TDJACR afaik it is considered stable since 10.10 beta, but you need to use extx for /boot. Someone correct me if i am wrong [01:43] Votan: The btrfs wiki says there is no fsck. Is that still true? === iConfused is now known as iConfused|away [01:45] TDJACR no idea about that, havent tested btrfs yet [01:45] Votan: Okay, thanks :) [01:51] !grub2 > androidbruce [01:51] androidbruce, please see my private message [01:51] ok [01:54] TDJACR: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu_netbook_fs&num=1 [01:54] TDJACR: personally I'm gonna stay with ext4 after reading that [01:55] can anyone assist me in configuring grub? [01:55] that's an older kernel [01:56] bjsnider: ext4 seems fine, i'll see what I can dredge up [01:56] im stuck at grub rescue> [01:57] androidbruce: boot to liveCD and reinstall grub2 === iConfused|away is now known as iConfused [01:57] ActionParsnip, sudo apt-get install grub2? [01:57] anyone else that has no sound indicator in the panel although the applet is installed ? [01:58] androidbruce: http://ubuntuguide.net/how-to-restore-grub-2-after-reinstalling-windows-xpvistawin7 [01:58] TDJACR, btrfsck is the fsck for that file system [01:58] Votan: if you run: gnome-volume-applet does it run? [02:00] im just going to reinstall with default settings [02:01] anyone using the opensource broadcom driver? [02:02] i think it installed grub onto my thumb drive [02:04] ActionParsnip nop, tells me command not found o.0 [02:08] yofel, you around? [02:09] Votan: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1422515 [02:09] Votan: http://www.jrhenkelmann.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=18:gnomes-volume-control-applet-in-lucid-lynx&catid=2:linux-ubuntu&Itemid=9 [02:09] Votan: not something I use as my hotkeys work on my laptop so I just use them :) [02:10] Hi all. I didn't see anything on google, but is anyone having issues with their dual monitor configuration not being persistant across reboots? [02:11] androidbruce: sleepy but yes [02:11] ActionParsnip yeh, my hotkeys work too since voria updated the repo for 10.10, but i still would like to see my applet, thanks for the link, looks like I removed that one :> [02:11] o.O [02:11] yofel, ohh sorry man don't want to bother you if you're sleeping. but do you think it is possible i installed grub onto my thumb drive during setup/ [02:12] * yofel is just wondering about that... [02:13] So, noone inhere who knows if it is smart to isntall laptop-mode-tools in 10.10 despite the removal of HAL ? [02:13] that usually shouldn't happen, as long as grub recognised the drives fine [02:13] androidbruce: yes I think that could have happened [02:13] russjr08, how would i install grub onto my /boot partition? [02:14] androidbruce: you should be able to install grub2 fine with the rescue instructions ActionParsnip linked [02:14] hm, I think we had our own instructions for that too.. [02:14] !grub2 [02:14] GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since Ubuntu 9.10. For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 [02:14] well update-grub created a menu.lst [02:15] it couldn't find one before [02:15] erm, there should be no menu.lst [02:15] grub2 uses a grub.cfg which is created by grub-mkconfig (called by update-grub) [02:15] when will the wallpaper and splash get activated in grub2 by the way ? [02:15] on release only ? [02:15] Volkodav: we have one? [02:16] have one what ? [02:16] androidbruce: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reinstalling%20GRUB%202 too [02:16] Volkodav: grub splash? I know you can set a background, but haven't tried more [02:16] yofel, do i install grub onto my /boot partition? [02:16] or do you mean plymouth? [02:17] well at least backround , as far splash either grub or plymout [02:17] androidbruce: usually you would install grub2 into the MBR by using '/dev/sda' without number for example [02:17] yofel, yeah true, i specified my own /boot partition on install [02:18] even backround does not work now [02:18] splash is enabled, it takes quite a while to appear with the nvidia driver on my desktop, works fine on my notebook and my intel netbook [02:19] Volkodav: should work as long as you set the right one in the config files, create yourself a customised version of /etc/grub.d/05_debian_theme [02:19] hmm can you show your /etc/grub.d/05_debian_theme [02:20] I have one with backround and splash edited and it does not work [02:20] http://pastie.org/1196096 [02:20] Volkodav: I don't use a splash here, but you should be able to put a picture named moreblue-orbit-grub.png into /boot/grub/ [02:21] Volkodav: so your picture is named Plasma-lamp.png or Plasma-lamp.tga? [02:22] yes [02:22] hm, it should find it fine as long as the picture is in one of the searched folders [02:23] it is [02:23] then I don't get why it doesn't work [02:24] neither do I [02:24] Volkodav: does 'update-grub' say that it found the image? [02:25] no [02:25] hm, if everything is ok then line 36 should print a message [02:26] probably because I have grub in /boot on a separate partition ? [02:27] could be, there is a 'is_path_readable_by_grub' check, put the image in /boot/grub/ and try again === IdleOne is now known as ldleOne [02:27] well I have images in both /boot/grub, and /usr/share/images/grub === ldleOne is now known as IdleOne [02:29] Volkodav: can you add an x to the shebang line, '-ex', and pastebin the output of 'sudo grub-mkconfig' ? [02:29] and don't forget to remove the x again [02:30] what line ? [02:30] Volkodav: line 1 [02:31] hi! I'm using ubuntu 10.10, I just rebooted and gdm doesn't start anymore [02:31] it stops at * Checking battery state... [ OK ] [02:32] does it drop t a prompt? or just freeze there [02:32] yofel: http://pastie.org/1196105 [02:32] ker: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1485383 === SolidLiq is now known as solid_liq [02:36] Volkodav: what does this command give you? (with the quotes): sh -c "test -e {/boot/grub,/usr/share/images/grub,/usr/share/images/desktop-base}/Plasma-lamp.{png,tga}; echo $?" [02:37] gives me 0 [02:38] hm, that's correct... [02:38] weird ain't it ? [02:39] * kubuntu1010 ubuntu1010server === kubuntu1010 is now known as ubuntu1010server [02:40] can someone help me see tell if my wireless card is working on 1010 [02:40] dmesg says Broadcom 43xx driver loaded [02:40] ubuntu1010server, i don't see why it wouldn't === SolidLiq is now known as solid_liq [02:40] btw I am ssh into the box [02:40] most of the broadcom devices are reasonably well supported [02:40] it definitely errors out on the first is_path_readable_by_grub check, which is essentially the command I gave you and returns 1 as seen in the grub-mkconfig output, even though the command works fine... [02:40] this doesn't make sense [02:41] Ken8521: well aparently there is a opensource driver now [02:41] right..... i believe you'll just be able to enable it in SYs/Admin/Hardware drivers [02:41] Ken8521: and ifconfg show nothing about the wireless card [02:41] I have spent some time with it in alpha but it was not supported at that early stage [02:42] Ken8521: server no gui [02:42] oh. [02:42] well, i imagine you could install the driver manually [02:42] just not sure how [02:42] I mean this is something really minor for me but I can't figure why it does not work though [02:43] think I might have to install the STA driver [02:43] me neither, need some sleep though finally [02:43] ping me tomorrow if you can fix it, if not ping me anyway :P [02:43] gn [02:44] bye [02:44] anyone know how to tell besides dmesg if the driver is working? [02:44] Volkodav: oh, and don't forget to remove the 'x' from line 1 again! [02:44] I did - thanks [02:49] If you are talking about BCM 43xx then I have a blue light indicating wireless is working. But it is not. And activation of the STA quits. [02:53] Yesterday on another install, I activated the STA prior to installing, apparently from the cd only. It worked fine. Today I booted that install and it does not work. Same refusal to activate. Also installing from snaptic did not work. [02:58] A earllier install to the same machine of meerkat of one just prior to this latest release is working wirlessly. [03:08] hi all. probs with the "white screen" under the latest kernel 2.6.35-22. no probs with kernel 2.6.32-25. wish to put 2.6.32-25 at the top of the list in grub. any help.? [03:12] holy crap, tons of updates just hit me [03:13] What is tons? [03:13] g48 [03:13] a ton..lol [03:13] g-14 classified [03:13] lol [03:14] probably not funny if you havent seen rush hour. [03:14] 120mb [03:14] That's normal. [03:15] If it first right after install. [03:15] lol [03:15] no [03:15] it's been setup for about 3 weeks [03:15] and i updated this morning [03:16] It was an upgrade? [03:17] Because the most recent release was yesterday. [03:18] no, clean install [03:18] is the right place for GRUB questions? [03:18] i don't upgrade, ever [03:19] yes related to meerkat mark2010 [03:20] want to put earlier kernel at the top of GRUB [03:20] so it boots into that by default [03:21] hey, i'm having some issues with my wireless.. i just updated to the 10.10 beta from 10.04, and now it won't connect to wireless networks [03:21] mokkan, Do you have BCM43xx? [03:22] i have an asus PCE-N13 [03:22] i'm not sure if it used that driver or not [03:22] Do lspci [03:23] 02:00.0 Network controller: RaLink RT2860 [03:24] Is that the wireless? [03:24] ryan_: i white screen under the new meerkat kernal 2.6.35-22, i don't white screen under the old kernel and want to put that at the top [03:24] i believe so, my onboard ethernet is nforce/forcedeth [03:25] entire lspci http://pastebin.com/G5dHWCbA [03:25] Not familar with it sorry mokkan. [03:25] np [03:25] it's odd because it worked fine with 2.6.32 [03:25] kernel version * [03:25] Mark2010, I don't know how to do that. [03:26] but i stupidly deleted that kernel [03:29] anyone know how to get nvidia gl driver working i get blank screen no signal, i think resolution or refresh is wrong [03:29] mokkan, It worked under meerkat? [03:30] You said you went from 10.04 to 10.10 which is meerkat. [03:37] hey [03:38] libphonon-dev is still broken here. - it causes update manager to complain the database is broken and the only way to upgrade packages is to run 'sudo apt-get -f upgrade' [03:38] anyone got the same problem? [03:40] Not me. Did you run 'sudo apt-get -f upgrade' and if so what happened? :) [03:41] ryan_, it doesn't fix it [03:41] this problem is recurring [03:42] Sorry [03:42] synaptic has libphonon-dev and kdelibs5-dev broken [03:42] tried reinstalling, no fix [03:42] and, as i said, i ran 'sudo apt-get -f upgrade' to upgrade packages [03:43] Opinion that Saturday night is not best time to get answers aprilhare. [03:43] ryan_, time is different here :) it's sunday afternoon where i am [03:44] but point taken [03:44] bbl [03:44] OK good point though [03:44] mee too [03:48] if i update to ubuntu 10.10 RC from 10.04, will i be able to update to the offical release in a few days? is this recommended ? [03:52] noneaan: You will be able to upgrade. However, if you're worried about any system instability, it would be best to wait. [03:54] ryan_, it worked under lucid [03:55] and when i upgraded i still had my old kernel [03:57] mokkan: you have to manually get rid of kernels you don't want [04:00] well, i thought maybe i botched the upgrade, so i downloaded the 10.10 iso and installed from scratch and it was still broken, and no more old kernel to fall back to [04:06] i'm getting frequent file browser (nautilus) crashes. bug buddy doesn't collect enough info to be useful [04:06] anyone else in the same boat? [04:07] How can I get ubuntu working reliably with my radeon hd 5870? fglrx driver just doesn't work, radeon driver works but then crashes on exit. [04:12] how can the system respond to pings, but not sysrq? [04:13] oh, nm, wrong ip. it's not replying to ping. [04:22] Just updated an IBM T41 from 10.04 to 10.10 and I get a white screen instead of the desktop. Feels like a graphics problem. Can get to terminal via Ctrl-Alt-F1. Any ideas what is going on? [04:23] I have removed Unity and hasn't helped [04:35] hi, tried to upgrade to the RC, but I'm stuck on the splash screen [04:35] any suggestions? [04:40] is there a way to recover from a botched upgrade to 10.10? my system locked up a few times during the process and the upgrade tool got very confused, appears to have done most of the upgrade but didn't "finish" like it normally does after a reboot [04:41] arcer [04:42] im running 2.6.35 kernel right now and my /etc/apt/sources.list shows that im using maverick sources [04:42] Arcer, install debsums, and do 'debsums -l' [04:43] it gives you a list of applications that do not have thier checksums installed [04:43] hi, I tried to upgrade to the RC, but I'm frozen at the splash screen. Can someone help me get past this? [04:44] Arcer, install aptitude and then execute the following command literally: [04:45] sudo aptitude reinstall `sudo debsums -l` [04:46] lapion: i usually use apt-get, and im in progress. there's a few other broken packages that are preventing me from installing debsums but i seem to be getting through that [04:46] Arcer, it will reinstall all packages that failed to install their checksums [04:46] though i didnt realize apt used distcc (?!?) [04:46] ok, will that get all the packages that were suppose to be installed but were not as well? [04:47] hi, can someone help me with my boot-screen freeze issue? [04:47] Arcer, also a handy way of fixing packages is by using : dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/missing-package-name [04:48] jdsbluedevl, what kind of video chipset do you have ? [04:49] Arcer, because usually the downloaded packages are still in the cache [04:49] lapion: that isn't the problem. The boot-up since upgrading to the RC is freezing at the splash screen. I need to get into verbose to see what's causing it, but I don't know how [04:49] arcer aptitude can reinstall packages.. [04:50] jdsbluedevl, current splashscreen is part of kms, and kms has problems with several chipsets [04:51] lapion: NVIDIA GeForce 5500 [04:52] lapion: correction, it's NVIDIA GeForce FX 5500 [04:52] lapion: ok, i think i got it. the only thing left is ubuntuone-ppa-beta which im pretty sure is old [04:52] lapion: but how do you know it isn't an issue of the verbose hiding something that I can't see because of the splash screen? [04:53] lapion: so thats the incompletely installed, what about the scripts run at the end of the upgrade process, ie, after it asks you to reboot in order to finish? [04:53] jdsbluedevl, intel has the most problems nvidia not as many, try booting in recovery mode, and then try running startx from commandline [04:53] lapion: what's the keystroke for recovery mode? I tried F8 and F2, but they do nothing [04:53] heck, I also tried Ctrl-Alt-F8 and Ctrl-Alt-F2 [04:54] jdsbluedevl, while turing on computer keep the shift key depressed and you will get grub-boot menu [04:55] lapion: nope, doesn't work [04:55] Arcer, if you boot in recovery mode and select the dpkg option from the menu dpkg should do all configuring of all packages that got broken during install [04:56] and thats it? [04:56] jdsbluedevl, depress the shift key from before turing on the system [04:56] lapion: huh? [04:57] lapion: you mean after the BIOS screen or before it? [04:57] arcer I would advice to use the aptitude trick i gave, because sometimes none of the packe managers see broken packages that have no checksums.. [04:57] jdsbluedevl, doesn't matter depress the shift key and keep it pressed at the moment you turn on the system [04:58] jdsbluedevl, the shift key never block the system from booting only the grub bootloader detects it.. [04:59] lapion: nope, still going straight to the splash screen and freezing [05:01] lapion: that being said, when I do a hard reset, I notice that the circles on the Kubuntu splash screen (which I have no idea how to get rid of in favor of the Ubuntu splash) light up sequentially [05:03] arcer also handy to do with debsums: sudo debsums -s [05:04] Arcer, that one gives you a list of missing/damaged files with the package you need to reinstall to fix them [05:04] how do I get the gnome ethernet icon in the panel? also the one that lets vpn's be configured? [05:05] jdsbluedevl, the shift key thingy should work, do not keep pressing the button repeatedly, but press it and keep it pressed until you get the grub boot-menus [05:05] hanasaki: Do you mean the button or the icon itself? [05:05] lapion: well THAT doesn't work either [05:06] jdsbluedevl, create a rc-boot-cd and bootup from it.. [05:06] Muscovy: both please [05:08] jdsbluedevl, are you using grub as boot-installer ? [05:08] lapion: I'm using whatever is stock [05:09] hanasaki: I'm not sure what part of your request is, but you can find the icon at /usr/share/icons/Humanity/status/24/network-transmit-receive.svg [05:09] Muscovy: hmm that's not it.. I mean the icon on the panel so I can select it and setup a vpn client and see my ehternet adapters in gnome [05:09] jdsbluedevl, if you are using grub when keeping shift depressed while booting you should get grub boot-menu, in thet bootmenu you have to select one of the recovery-boot kernels [05:10] hanasaki: To set up VPN, select "VPN Connections", available by clicking on the network icon. [05:11] hanasaki, add the Notification Area to your panel [05:11] hanasaki, add the "Notification Area" to your panel [05:12] lapion: I have a notificaiton area.. just no icon like what Muscovy and you are talking about [05:12] brb [05:13] hanasaki, all the notification icons changed as of 10.x [05:13] lapion: I guess this will have to stay on hold for a while, apparently I have to download a new ISO (lost all the other older ones) [05:14] thanks for the info on connections [05:15] jdsbluedevl, yes you need the latest one because with the older ones you cannot check if the latest release candidate will work with your system, at least with basic seetings [05:15] when I login metacity runs.. not compiz. I ran compiz --replace and saved current apps / logged out and back in / again only metacity is running. how can I get compiz to be the default on login? [05:16] lapion: ok so basically what i just did is told dpkg to reinstall every package downloaded in the last two days in the cache (used a python script), the debsums -s shows a few bluetooth package bugs (which ill fix) but i dont have bluetooth on this system so it doesnt concern me highly [05:17] what im concerned with is while im running a newer kernel, i dont seem to have newer bootup/etc graphics. the widgets in the upper right look different, but are not other things suppose to change as well? [05:17] in 10.10, after an upgrade from 10.04, my windows don't drag properly. Any suggestions on how to debug/fix? [05:17] hanasaki, System->preferences->Appearance Preferences->Visual Effects [05:18] Sorry, I should be more specific, they refresh slowly and "lag". This is in gnome. [05:18] pooky: you mean the title of the window seems hidden behind the top menu bar? [05:18] No, when I drag a window on the screen, it ccan't keep up with the moue. This behavious ir new after the update. [05:18] lapion: I do that and it works.. logout / login and its back to metacity [05:18] Arcer, rebuild your initramfs [05:19] lapion: is there a command for that? [05:19] wow, typing fail. Dragging a window on screen lags behind the mouse. [05:20] Arcer: if I shade the window, and turn it just into a titlebar, it works fine. [05:20] Arcer, sudo update-initramfs -k all -c [05:21] lapion: any idea why the selection won't "stick" between logins? [05:21] hanasaki, try google [05:22] hanasaki, or post your problem at another tiem and hope there is someone in her that happens to have had the same problem [05:22] *here [05:22] While choosing a wallpaper, the slideshow wallpapers, on clicking the forward/play button -- another similar button appears before it. On clicking it it disappears. This is a bug? [05:24] thanks [05:24] Arcer, do that in a terminal, not on the run applications dialog-box [05:24] of course [05:26]