| hallyn | i'm not thinking right about something. i have some source in a bzr tree. i want to build a package from it. bzr bd insists i need a .orig.tgz, but it's all in (and only in) the bzr tree! should i just build a bogus .orig.tgz and .changes and debuild -S by hand with that? | 00:13 |
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| hallyn | clearly i'm not thinking right about something | 00:14 |
| jonrafkind | i screwed up my source package but when I rebuild the package with debuild -S (which builds the same filename as before) I get a rejection saying the file already exists | 01:37 |
| jonrafkind | so is the solution to make a new filename (bump the version)? which means I have to bump the version in all the control/changelog/whatever files? | 01:38 |
| jonrafkind | sorry i meant after i rebuild the package with debuild -S and upload it with dput | 01:38 |
| ebroder | That's right. You can only upload a particular version of a particular package to a particular repository once | 01:48 |
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| ebroder | Did something replace gdebi as the default .deb file type handler in maverick? | 02:10 |
| kklimonda | ebroder: software-center | 02:10 |
| ebroder | Huh. Thanks | 02:10 |
| sladen | ebroder: xdg-open somefile.deb | 02:13 |
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| jonrafkind | how do I get dh-make not to run 'make test' ? | 03:34 |
| jonrafkind | or maybe its just 'dh' that i want | 03:35 |
| ion | jonrafkind: See dh(1), look for “Commands not to run” and “override_dh_auto_test”. | 03:38 |
| jonrafkind | neither of those are in dh or debhelper | 03:39 |
| jonrafkind | man pages | 03:39 |
| ion | debhelper: /usr/share/man/man1/dh.1.gz | 03:40 |
| jonrafkind | can you send me that file or something? i guess i have an older version than you | 03:40 |
| jonrafkind | actually ill try to find it online i guess | 03:41 |
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| jonrafkind | can someone show me an example of overriding dhauto test ? I tried adding rules to my makefile 'override_dh_auto_test: echo nothing' but it doesnt take | 05:42 |
| jonrafkind | i also tried override-dh-auto-test | 05:42 |
| james_w | jonrafkind: "override_dh_auto_test:\n\techo foo" is correct | 05:46 |
| jonrafkind | does it have to be before the %: dh $@ rule? | 05:46 |
| james_w | nope | 05:46 |
| jonrafkind | hm.. i wonder why its not working | 05:46 |
| james_w | jonrafkind: did you literally write "override_dh_auto_test: echo nothing"? | 05:47 |
| jonrafkind | well i used the newline and tab stuff | 05:47 |
| james_w | ok | 05:47 |
| jonrafkind | i know makefile syntax | 05:47 |
| james_w | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~linaro-maintainers/linaro-image-tools/linaro-image-tools/annotate/head:/debian/rules | 05:48 |
| james_w | that's one I wrote just the other day that works | 05:48 |
| jonrafkind | ok | 05:49 |
| jonrafkind | ok it didnt work becuase somehow pbuilder installed an old version of dh that didn't recognize the override stuff | 06:31 |
| jonrafkind | which is strange considering my local dh does recognize override, so i wonder what pbuild is installing | 06:31 |
| pk4r | Hello, is this the right place to ask a few packaging related questions ? I'm currently trying to package a few PHP web applications, while following the official Ubuntu Packaging Guide I feel there're more things to know when it comes to web apps (supporting different servers, post-install configuration etc.).. I downloaded source of phpmyadmin to explore a little bit.. just starting with it. Can anybody give some pointers on that ? | 09:37 |
| micahg | pk4r: if it's for a PPA, #ubuntu-packaging is the place, if it's for the archive, #ubuntu-motu would be the place | 09:38 |
| hyperair | hmm this is interesting. openoffice's orig.tar.gz was 300+M, but libreoffice's is only 13M | 11:36 |
| hyperair | i wonder what's been left out of libreoffice's | 11:36 |
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| slomo | hyperair: maybe they don't include copies of every single dependency, including python and other large things ;) | 11:40 |
| hyperair | slomo: oh lol | 11:40 |
| hyperair | slomo: i remember openoffice taking over 2 days to build on a pentium 4 system. i wonder if libreoffice would do the same | 11:41 |
| hyperair | it's kinda hard to imagine 13M of source code taking that long to build. | 11:41 |
| hyperair | i mean hey the kernel was 700M or so... | 11:41 |
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| Riddell | hyperair: the source is actually the go-oo build source, which is just patches for applying to the openoffice.org source | 12:27 |
| hyperair | Riddell: and so.. there's 300M of patches? | 12:28 |
| Riddell | there's 13M of patches | 12:29 |
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| alex88 | hi..i've 2 questions, why after installing the nvidia drivers plymouth gives me low-res splash screen? also, is possible to unlock keyring on login? If i install libpam-keyring and add to /etc/pam.d/gmd i can't login.. | 12:45 |
| Laney | ssh | 13:01 |
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| steve|m | hi, can anyone confirm that if pressing a multimedia hotkey on the keyboard the left mousebutton doesn't work anymore in the current session in maverick? | 14:42 |
| steve|m | I tried it on 2 different machines, xev even doesn't show the left mouse button click anymore (multimedia keys being Play/Pause, calculator, email and the like) | 14:51 |
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| zyga | hi | 19:48 |
| steve|m | can anyone confirm this one? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-evdev/+bug/654201 | 19:53 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 654201 in xserver-xorg-input-evdev (Ubuntu) "pressing multimedia hotkeys disables left mousebutton" [Undecided,New] | 19:53 |
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| maxb | james_w: Hi. That bug you just edited - is there another one to track the rest of the NoSuchTag UDD failures? | 22:33 |
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| jonrafkind | im making a source package for my ppa, what is my make install target supposed to do? i tried doing 'mkdir /usr/bin/games; cp my-game /usr/bin/games' but I get a build error that says the mkdir failed because of permission errors | 22:55 |
| jonrafkind | does the launchpad builder not run with root permissions? | 22:56 |
| ebroder | jonrafkind: http://www.gnu.org/prep/standards/html_node/DESTDIR.html | 22:56 |
| jonrafkind | ah ok | 22:56 |
| lifeless | jonrafkind: #ubuntu-packaging is probably a better channel for this question; packages install into a staging area not into /usr | 22:56 |
| jonrafkind | so maybe $(DESTDIR)/bin/games | 22:56 |
| jonrafkind | omg, how many different channels are there? so far ive found 3 | 22:57 |
| ebroder | Lots. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList | 22:57 |
| ebroder | And I don't think that list is exhaustive | 22:57 |
| jonrafkind | ubuntu loves beauracracy eh? | 22:57 |
| sladen | jonrafkind: you don't install it directly, you install your stuff into some directory where told (DESTDIR in this case), and then the packaging build system will bundle that up | 22:57 |
| lifeless | no, ubuntu is dealing with thousands of people doing stuff at the same time. | 22:58 |
| sladen | jonrafkind: it's more that Ubuntu is quite big. If would get very noisy if everyone was in the same place | 22:58 |
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| jonrafkind | $DESTDIR is not set in the debian/rules file | 23:26 |
| zyga | jonrafkind, is your software written in C? | 23:28 |
| jonrafkind | hm, dh_auto_install sets DESTDIR, but I have my own install target that acts differently | 23:28 |
| jonrafkind | c++ | 23:28 |
| zyga | jonrafkind, if so you'd save everyone lots of hassle by using autotools | 23:28 |
| jonrafkind | i use scons | 23:28 |
| zyga | jonrafkind, that will work too | 23:28 |
| zyga | jonrafkind, oh | 23:29 |
| zyga | jonrafkind, does scons suport DESTDIR? | 23:29 |
| jonrafkind | the point is i have my own makefile that when you do 'make install' it runs another script that asks you some questions about where to install | 23:29 |
| jonrafkind | i could have a separate install target for this dh stuff that used DESTDIR I guess | 23:29 |
| zyga | jonrafkind, in packaging that is always a bad idea | 23:29 |
| jonrafkind | well.. thats debateable | 23:30 |
| jonrafkind | is it possible to get dh_auto_install to use a different target? | 23:30 |
| zyga | jonrafkind, you should install to $(DESTDIR)$(something) | 23:30 |
| zyga | jonrafkind, you miss the point - the installer is just building the image of the stuff that gets installed by the end user from a package, things have well defined locations, if you want to configure something do that _before_ building you package (configure step in autotools) | 23:31 |
| zyga | jonrafkind, I'm not sure I don't do a lot of packaging | 23:31 |
| jonrafkind | i understand how it all works and I know thats what most people do | 23:31 |
| jonrafkind | but i have decided to do it a different way | 23:31 |
| zyga | jonrafkind, it seems that you built an user-friently installer, is that correct? | 23:32 |
| jonrafkind | yes | 23:32 |
| zyga | jonrafkind, that should be a separate script IMHO, you should use it to trigger the normal build script/makefile/whatever with arguments | 23:32 |
| jonrafkind | it is a separate script, but so far i have 'make install' just execute that script | 23:32 |
| zyga | jonrafkind, well changing it to be exactly opposite is the quickest way to solve your problem | 23:33 |
| zyga | jonrafkind, you can still keep the custom installer script | 23:33 |
| jonrafkind | only to satisfy ubuntu's process | 23:33 |
| jonrafkind | other systems (arch, gentoo) don't have this issue | 23:34 |
| zyga | jonrafkind, honestly if your software is open source it's not related to ubuntu, nobody expects a talking installer | 23:34 |
| jonrafkind | well they are gonna get one! | 23:34 |
| zyga | jonrafkind, arch has binary packages correct? | 23:34 |
| jonrafkind | yea | 23:34 |
| zyga | jonrafkind, I don't know too much about it but your problem is trying to use interactive steps in an environment that requires none (automated builds) | 23:35 |
| cjwatson | could you please take this elsewhere? I think there was already conversation above indicating that it's more relevant to #ubuntu-packaging than here - we try to reserve this channel for development of Ubuntu itself, so that our developers can focus on that | 23:35 |
| zyga | I understand your desire to use user friendly installer but IMHO you used the wrong place to put your interactivity bits | 23:35 |
| jonrafkind | well that assumes the way dh works cannot be changed | 23:35 |
| jonrafkind | i asked in #ubuntu-packacing and no one responded, and b) there is no one else talking | 23:35 |
| zyga | jonrafkind, cjwatson is right, this is not the right place | 23:36 |
| cjwatson | b) irrelevant, developers read scrollback | 23:36 |
| cjwatson | and the fact that another channel is quiet doesn't mean this is the right place for it | 23:36 |
| jonrafkind | zyga, do you wish to join #ubuntu-packaging? | 23:36 |
| zyga | why not | 23:37 |
| cjwatson | thanks | 23:37 |
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