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gzedany how-to to activate gallium nouveau on maverick? xorg-edgers ppa doesn't contain the libgl1-dri-gallium package for maverick...12:57
tjaaltongzed: aiui it's in maverick already, libgl1-mesa-dri-experimental package13:06
gzedok, gonna try it out, thanks13:07
gzedhmmm13:09
gzedls /usr/lib/dri/gallium/13:09
gzedi915_dri.so  r600_dri.so  swrast_dri.so13:09
gzedno nouveau in there13:09
tjaaltonit's in /usr/lib/dri13:13
gzedaren't those the classic mesa drivers?13:14
tjaaltonnot necessarily13:14
tjaaltonhmm13:14
gzedI think you're wrong13:14
tjaaltonmaybe13:14
gzedI used to have a /usr/lib/dri-gallium directory under lucid13:15
tjaaltonthe packaging has probably changed since13:15
gzednot until yesterday13:15
gzedI upgraded to maverick this morning...13:15
tjaaltonwell maverick has been in development since may13:16
tjaaltonchecking the packaging now13:17
tjaalton..which is slow since a lot has changed since I touched mesa last :)13:20
gzed:)13:20
gzednever mind, I think I'll have to build from git to get to play with it again13:21
tjaaltonit is the gallium driver btw13:23
tjaaltonjust installed in /usr/lib/dri so it's actually used by default13:24
gzedrunning the closed blob right now... :(13:24
knittlhey. i don't see any drivers in jockey17:30
knittlcan i help troubleshoot?17:31
tjaaltonyou don't have nvidia-*-modaliases installed?17:45
tjaaltonor the hw is too old17:46
knittltjaalton: modaliases are installed, hw is 2 years max18:08
knittlnow i can see drivers18:08
knittlbut i bet it fails18:08
knittllike everytime18:08
knittl:(18:08
knittli will paste the logfile, gimme a minute18:08
knittltjaalton: http://paste2.org/p/101647918:10
knittli emptied it before logging in and starting jockey18:11
tjaaltonfails how?18:13
tjaaltonit got installed18:13
knittlwhat's the last error then?18:13
knittlit also says now in jockey: a different version of this driver is in use18:14
tjaaltondunno18:14
knittli try to restart, brb18:15
knittlthere's no xorg.conf though. is that ok?18:15
tjaaltonthere's 256.53-0ubuntu3 available btw18:15
tjaaltonyes18:15
tjaaltonwell, no18:15
tjaaltonnot with nvidia18:15
knittlso why doesn't jockey create it?18:15
tjaaltonno idea18:15
knittlso maybe it is failing?18:16
tjaaltonthe error is because it's trying to create an alternative link for a file which only the 64bit package includes18:17
tjaaltonwhich itself is a bug in the package, but shouldn't be fatal18:17
knittlalso18:17
knittldoes not currently work with xserver 1.918:17
knittlis an interesting error18:17
tjaaltonbut why doesn't your mirror have the latest files?18:17
tjaaltonno18:18
knittlline 10 – 1618:18
tjaaltonthats for the old driveres18:18
tjaalton-e18:18
tjaalton-96 and -173, which don't support the new abi18:18
knittlinstalling nvdia-current by hand, then nvidia-xconfig works18:18
knittlso i only have problems getting jockey to work18:19
tjaaltonxconfig should work just the same if it was installed via jockey18:21
knittland since jockey is the recommended way it's sad :(18:21
tjaaltonthen file a bug18:21
tjaaltonmaybe the error is fatal for jockey18:22
knittlmaybe, i don't know18:22
tjaaltonso it doesn't create the conffile when installing on a 32bit system18:22
knittlbut then it would be fatal on every non-64bit system18:22
tjaaltonfile a bug against nvidia-current..18:22
tjaaltonyes18:22
knittljockey even says it failed installing, i should see the log18:23
tjaaltonthis wasn't the logfile?18:23
knittlthe paste? it was /var/log/jockey.log18:24
marcoghey, i just upgraded my netbook to maverick and got the exact same problem as this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=158715318:24
marcogany ideas on how to fix?18:24
knittlalso, standby does not work on my system with nouveau18:24
knittli'd use it instead of nvidia, but no standby is a no-go18:24
marcoganyone? to summarise, i get a blank white screen after logging in18:29
knittlusing gitk, vlc, blender, ding (i guess xlib) applications will crash my xserver, when using xinerama …18:36
knittlany pointers?18:36
tjaaltonbuggy nvidia?18:39
knittlprobably18:52
bjsniderknittl, the errors listed on lines 779 and 780 are supposed to happen on i386. there is no way around it because dpkg doesn't support multi-arch yet18:54
knittlhmmm18:55
knittlwell, it still fails while installing18:56
knittland i cannot remove it using jockey18:57
knittlusing nouveau now18:57
knittlno standby <<< xserver crashes18:57
tjaaltonbjsnider: it's still a bug that it tries to add an alternative for a file that doesn't exist18:57
tjaaltonand seems like it breaks jockey18:57
bjsniderthe messages in that log specificaly say that the nvidia alternatives are being used and the kernel module is installed18:58
bjsniderso it worked18:58
tjaaltonthe install yes, but jockey still fails18:58
bjsnideri don't understand the distinction18:59
bjsniderif hte user rebooted it would work fine18:59
tjaaltonit's not the nvidia install that creates xorg.conf18:59
bjsnideri mean maybe it didn't create the correct xorg.conf file?18:59
tjaaltonbut jockey19:00
tjaaltonexactly19:00
bjsniderwell then it's been broken the same way going back to lucid19:00
tjaaltonmaybe, or maybe jockey is being more picky in maverick19:00
knittljockey says it failde19:01
knittlbjsnider: no it doesnt19:01
knittlrebooting will not work properly, because no xorg.conf is generated19:01
bjsniderthat should be listed as a jockey bug if anything19:05
tjaaltonit's a packaging bug in nvidia..19:06
tjaaltonat least19:06
bjsniderhow would you suggest it be ffixed?19:06
tjaaltonnot add             --slave #VDPAUDIR32#/libvdpau_nvidia.so.1 libvdpau_nvidia.so.1_lib32 #PKGVDPAUDIR32#/libvdpau_nvidia.so.1 \19:07
tjaalton..for the 32bit package19:07
bjsniderthe nvidia-current postinst script specifically says that error message will occur on i386 and it is inconsequential19:08
bjsniderso it's not like it's a suprise that it's happening19:08
tjaaltonwell, maybe mvo will decide which one is wrong ;)19:08
tjaaltonI don't see why including known(!) errors in a package is desired19:09
bjsniderit may be impossible to get around19:09
tjaaltonno it's not19:09
bjsnideri don't see why you can't just do i arch=i386 then19:10
bjsnideryou can always test for the arch19:10
tjaaltonthat's the .in file, with a lot of variables that are replaced with real values, so there's no reason it couldn't check the build architecture too19:10
bjsniderbut it's been in there going back to lucid and it wasn't stopping i386 installs. so why is it a showstopper now?19:11
tjaaltonlike I said, jockey probably got changed19:14
knittlit didn't work in lucid for me either19:20
bjsniderfor the same reason?19:22
knittli guess. i don't know the reason19:22
knittlthat was when nvidia-current was introduced19:23
bjsniderwere you trying to use it on i386 then as well?19:23
knittlyes19:23
knittlit's the same system, only upgraded19:24
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