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onewaynerunning  ubuntu  8.04 on G5 mac .anyone know other linux that will run on G500:26
valorieonewayne: do the command /list mac00:29
valorielet it refresh for a min, and see all the mac channels00:29
valorielots of choices00:29
valorieyour fellow mac users are more likely to know about G5 choices00:30
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onewaynemore linux man than mac , i tried yellow for mac dos;nt work00:34
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jcgshi, i'm using maverick, does anyone know if it's possible to change power management profiles?02:22
jcgsanyone?02:24
darkdelusionsjcgs you would be better asking in #ubuntu+102:34
jcgsdatrkdelusions: is there a #kubuntu+1 as well?02:34
darkdelusionsjcgs: its invite only02:38
darkdelusionsso technically no :)02:38
jcgsdarkdelusions: who are the sort of people that get invited?02:39
darkdelusionsYour guess is as good as mine02:39
valorie\o/, sound is back in youtube!03:38
valoriedid updates today, mostly KDE03:39
valorierestarted03:39
valorie:-)03:39
chaayaquestion: when i am shutting down the computer, i  see, for just a brief moment, the Gnome desktop -- is it possible that in migrating from gnome to kde, that somehow the gnome desktop is still running underneath?05:28
bambreshhi05:37
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larsjaaachaaya: try to search for "splash" in package manager?05:43
chaayalarsjaaa: on it.. checking05:51
chaayanothing matching name splash is installed05:51
chaayai thought nautilus provided the desktop05:52
chaayabut did not see it in ps ux05:52
chaayaer, the gnome desktop05:52
gbgbgbg_Hey all is there any issue with chmodding /etc/fstab to 700 so it's only readable by root, or will that cause problems?06:23
chaayagbgbgbg_: try it and let us know :-P06:25
gbgbgbg_I suppose if I try it, run mount -a and that doesn't encounter any issues it should work, since mount runs as root anyway!06:28
chaayai'm trying to think of a situation where a nonprivilieged something or other needs to read fstab06:29
chaayawhy don't you want nonprivileged reads?06:30
gbgbgbg_cifs passwords!06:30
chaayais there a fuse module that will support cifs?06:31
gbgbgbg_mount has the setuid bit set! So even in situations where users are allowed to use mount, the mount command should be able to read fstab, even if it's only readable by root06:31
gbgbgbg_I think there is, but the most stable version of cifs is non fuse based.06:32
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Guest73786Curti07:09
collabraah,... helllltwhodogsranbyondthegreatgrapecrush08:13
collabrai know you can read these before i can thik theimenhyssel08:15
collabraand i broke the chain08:16
collabratoo bad that dream didn't come true08:17
collabrapancrement08:17
collabraslootyfarallabal08:18
collabracerebral08:19
collabrai meant symmetrical08:19
collabranot cerebral08:20
collabrasilatecapacitance08:21
collabraelsi08:23
collabrawhy does shadai understand fundamental linguisticsuniversal08:25
collabraHrm....08:27
collabrabarricade the doors and dont come out...seriously.08:27
collabrayah,... to nine of em to subdue his ass.08:28
collabraparsley saesashinerine08:29
collabraspam,.... no one in #kubuntu,... sh!t,... spam yourself!08:30
collabrajust befor a long night of data collection....08:30
collabratoodles... mwah!-)08:31
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daniele?09:05
lelamalHi all, on 1 virtual desktop in my previous installation, I had 1 sticky note (knotes) that I'd like to retrieve. I have a full backup of my old home directory. Does anyone know where are these notes saved, please?09:11
TheKro_hey.  krunner crashed, and I'm trying to submit a crash report using the assistant.  It told me to install debug symbols, but it couldn't do it automatically.  I went to the site it recommends to explain how to do it manually (http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/Debugging/How_to_create_useful_crash_reports#Preparing_your_KDE_packages ), but that doesn't explain how to know which debug package to install.  My trace hits problems at "#6  0x005f09:27
TheKro_can anyone tell me which debug package to install, and more importantly, how I can find out myself next time?09:28
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MamarokTheKro_: search for kdebase-workspace-dbg09:43
nico__zzup ;09:43
TheKro_Mamarok: that's already installed09:45
TheKro_so I guess the next step is to give up on reporting the bug then?09:55
Mamarokno, try to reproduce it10:01
Mamarokdid you re-run the backtrace once the packages were installed?10:01
Mamarokalso, could you please pastebin the result and give the url here?10:02
TheKro_Mamarok: the packages have been installed before10:02
Mamarokstill, the crash is maybe elsewhere, just paste the backtrace and give me the URL, so I can tell ou :)10:02
Mamarokyou*10:02
TheKro_Mamarok: i only get the behaviour sometimes when I restart from suspend - i can't reliably reproduce10:02
Mamarokhm, do you still have the backtrace window open?10:03
TheKro_i'll paste the backtrace I have in the crash reporting assistant10:03
Mamarokyes, please, but use pastebin!10:03
TheKro_Mamarok: http://pastebin.com/0JSJQP8L10:04
Mamarokhm, segmentation fault, that can be a lot of things10:04
Mamarokwhich KDE version do you use?10:04
TheKro_Mamarok: Platform Version 4.4.2 (KDE 4.4.2)10:06
MamarokTheKro_: you should upgrade, it's likely a bug that is already fixed10:08
TheKro_Mamarok: what should I upgrade?10:08
MamarokTheKro_: KDE, see http://kubuntu.org/news/packages-available-kde-platform-plasma-and-applications-45110:10
TheKro_Mamarok: I have ppa packages installed for 4.4.2 which fix an unfixed bug in ktimetracker10:14
TheKro_Mamarok: so upgrading isn't really an option10:15
Mamarokthen you will have to live with the krunner crashes10:15
TheKro_Mamarok: I don't mind living with them - I just want to report it10:15
TheKro_Mamarok: and to do that, i need to know which debug symbols package to install10:15
Mamarokand I tell you it is no use reporting it, since that is already fixed in KDE 4.5.x10:15
TheKro_Mamarok: ok, thanks10:16
Mamarokreporting bugs should always be against the latest stable version10:16
TheKro_Mamarok: in that case, the crash reporting assistant shouldn't pop up if you don't have the latest stable version?10:17
TheKro_Mamarok: or it should at least tell you that earlier10:17
Mamarokthat would be a good idea to add to Dr. Konqi indeed10:18
Mamarokbut it would have to scan a database for latest stable releases of all packages, a bit much10:19
TheKro_Mamarok: it could simply refer the user to a database, telling him what version of his package crashed?10:19
TheKro_Mamarok: so is there a place to make a suggestion/feature request like that?10:21
MamarokTheKro_: yes, in bugs.kde.org, product Dr. Konqi10:22
Mamarokit already reads the version and puts it on top of the backtrace10:22
Mamarokbut the users should also document themselves about the software they use, reading http://kubuntu.org is always a good idea, be it only to know one is not using the latest stable with LTS, as Kubuntu is not a rolling distro10:23
TheKro_Mamarok: but if you know the version of your package, how do you find out if it's the latest stable or not?10:31
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MamarokTheKro_: well, as I told you above, also http://dot.kde.org is a good source of information for releases10:36
Mamarokthe current stable is 4.5.1, but 4.5.2 will be released soon10:36
Mamaroksince your version there has been, 4.4.3, 4.4.4 and 4.4.5, then kde 4.5.0, now 4.5.110:37
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TheKro_Mamarok: but most users don't follow blogs on latest software releases - they just upgrade when the system tells them to (and often not backports, either).  is there no central list of latest stable package versions?10:40
TheKro_Mamarok: bug for drkonqi submitted, btw10:41
MamarokTheKro_: well, at least ou should know that with a 6 months release cycle Kubuntu can hardly be up-to-date with the latest packages after 6 months10:45
Mamarokand yes, the users should get themselves documented to a minimum, that's how Linux works10:46
Mamarokeverything else is spoon feediung, and I charge for that :)10:46
Mamarokfeeding*10:46
TheKro_Mamarok: ok, so I'm running lucid, which is <6 months old, and I know my krunner crashed. how do i find out the latest stable version?  Why should I expect that my KDE version should affect my krunner version?10:47
Mamarokbecause it is part of kdebase-workspace, and that only gets updated with the whole KDE package10:48
Mamarokand reading dot.kde.org or kubuntu.org once a week is sufficient to stay informed10:48
TheKro_Mamarok: so basically, if you don't have the latest KDE (like probably most Ubuntu users), you shouldn't be reporting bugs.  In that case, the crash-reporting assistant is pretty much a misleading waste of most people's time.10:50
TheKro_since you only have the latest version for about a month after your OS upgrade (if you upgrade immediately on release)10:50
Mamarokwell, most people use the backports PPA :)10:50
TheKro_Mamarok: ok - i didn't know that10:51
Mamarokand as I told you, reading the news on http://kubuntu.org keeps you informed10:52
TheKro_Mamarok: I don't read the news on latex upgrades, i don't read the news on kernel upgrades, i don't read the news on openoffice upgrades - i wait for them to show up as updates.  I wouldn't expect that to be different for KDE.10:55
MamarokTheKro_: as you like, but don't be surprised if you miss stuff then10:55
MamarokK/Ubuntu is not a rolling ditrso, hence it doesn't upgrade in 6 months10:56
Mamarokdistro*10:56
TheKro_Mamarok: i'm not surprised, just disappointed.  i'd expect it to be easier for people to report bugs responsibly10:57
MamarokLaTeX is rarely upgraded, but I guess you run old kernels, and an old OOo10:57
MamarokTheKro_: so what I told you doesn't make it easier? *sigh*10:57
Mamarokthe point of reporting bugs is that we are informed about new bugs, and the users needs to know a bit more than just push a button IMHO since there is often need for additional information.10:58
TheKro_Mamarok: if making it easier means adding additional sites to my feed reader and trying to keep up with ubuntu news (which isn't necessarily the focus of my work), then yes.10:58
Mamaroksee, I do bug triaging all day long, and most of my time is spent on closing reports as invalid or duplicate because most users don't read even the informations given by Dr. Konqi. It should certainly not be made even easier, this would only add additional work for triagers10:59
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TheKro_Mamarok: in that case, the general populace shouldn't be given a point and click bug reporting wizard?11:00
Mamarokyou get the ehole thing for free and still expect spoon feeding11:00
Mamarokwhole*11:00
Mamarokit is not point and click, it expects people to read (talking about Dr. Konqi)11:00
TheKro_Mamarok: if I get a popup suggesting that I report a bug, I try to do so.  I try to follow the instructions and hit a brick wall11:00
Mamaroksince there are things printed on that dialog, not just for decoration11:01
TheKro_Mamarok: i'm just trying to explain how one can reduce the impact of/eliminate the brick wall11:01
Mamarokyou didn't hit a brick wall, I gave you all the information you were asking for. That chapter is closed for me, sorry. Better things to do11:01
TheKro_Mamarok: and if the approach is: you need to follow all the Ubuntu news, you're cutting out a lot of the people you're giving the crash report wizard to11:02
Mamarokthere are news every 3 weeks at most, come on!11:02
TheKro_Mamarok: coming to IRC was to try solve the brick wall - i'm not blaming your help11:02
TheKro_Mamarok: dot.kde - 10 posts in september11:03
Mamaroktwo about new releases11:04
Mamarokhence twice in a month11:04
TheKro_Mamarok: please don't think I'm attacking/blaming you.  I'm just trying to suggest how things could be easier, and asking if such things exist that I don't know about11:04
Mamarokwell, you expect me to do all the work, with you dpoing nothing, that's not how Free Software works11:05
TheKro_Mamarok: not at all11:05
Mamarokdoing*11:05
TheKro_Mamarok: i'm spending my time reporting the bugs, having this discussion, and if I knew how, I might even get more involved11:05
Mamarokreading a post takes 1 minute, so 10 minutes a month seems to be asking too much11:06
Mamarokwell, to get more involved you need to be better documented, hence reading the news I told you11:06
TheKro_Mamarok: 10 minutes for me is not too much, but 10 minutes for every kubuntu user, when you don't even tell them to do it when they install, is perhaps a bit much11:06
Mamarokreporting more bugs is not the point, making better bug reports is11:06
TheKro_Mamarok: I intend to subscribe to your feeds11:07
Mamarokduring the installation there is plenty of ressources indicated11:07
Mamarokbut since people don't read...11:07
Mamarokhttp://kubuntu.org is given as the main point of information during installation11:07
Mamarokanyway, I think this discussion is going nowhere11:08
TheKro_Mamarok: thanks for your time11:08
MamarokTheKro_: you are welcome :)11:08
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howlymowlyhi poeple.. short question:  usually there is a shadow on the kde panel...  but I do not have one..  any idea on this? (I have effects turned on etc...)11:57
Peace-howlymowly: can you make a screenshot?12:35
howlymowlyPeace-: in #kde they just told me this is a known bug, when turning plasma-effects on/off12:43
Peace-howlymowly: perfet12:45
Peace-perfect12:45
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lieuwe[kubuntu]any idea on how i can get Kate to fold python code propperly?13:01
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lieuwethis is probably the wrong place to ask, but #kaffeine seems dead, i've been trying to get my tv-tuner to work for a while now, but kaffeine can't find any channels, it does give 50% signal, but 0% signal-to-noise, any idea what i'm doing wrong?13:49
eMyller'lo, fellas; i got two monitors and i need lvds to work as absolute and vga1 to work on its right13:55
eMyllerbut the config doesnt allow me to do that; it forces me to set vga1 as absolute always13:56
eMyller...and that's sad.13:56
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sebersolei am having problems with vpn access (vpnc) and kubuntu.  with networkmanager it just seems nothing happens, I am not able to connect at all.  i tried kvpnc and am able to connect, but it does not set up dns properly15:40
sebersoleso first, which should I be using?15:40
sebersolei searched for vpnc and dns issues and it found lots of hits, but they all seemed to point to old networkmanager issues15:41
sebersolesorry, kvpnc and dns issues...15:42
dasKreechwhat's your DNS under kvpnc?15:42
sebersolewhere would i see that?15:43
sebersoledasKreech: where would i see that?15:45
LordOfDragonshi there15:53
LordOfDragonssomebody around knowing about the intel pro wireless (crap)3945ABG?15:54
LordOfDragonsi'm trying to get a laptop running with this crap and it just ain't working15:54
LordOfDragonskubuntu 10.04 finds the device and shows it under the network icon in the notifier area15:54
LordOfDragonsit also shows access points of neighbors15:55
LordOfDragonsbut it utterly fails to connect to my AP which is hidden15:55
LordOfDragonslet's say the ESSID is XYZ15:55
sagacithe RC is looking good15:55
LordOfDragonsif i force the ESSID using iwconfig and check it back later on the ESSID is total crap15:55
LordOfDragonslooks totally gibberish with like 100 characters long full of backslashes and other crap15:56
LordOfDragonsis the driver in kubuntu broken for that chip?15:56
Aleksandr_Rudybla bla bla16:06
BluesKajhowdy16:28
TerranimI'm testing out maverick on another machine at the moment and an update today has broken some dependencies I think. kdebase-workspace-bin has been removed, which has of course broken KDE, but when I try and install it I get:17:00
TerranimThe following packages have unmet dependencies.17:00
Terranim kdebase-workspace-bin : Depends: kdebase-workspace-data (= 4:4.5.1-0ubuntu7) but 4:4.5.1-0ubuntu8 is to be installed17:00
TerranimAnyone else seen the same problem?17:00
FloodBotK1Terranim: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.17:00
DarthFrogTerranim: That's the kind of small detail that gets overlooked initially when a big upgrade is done.  It may just reflect the lag in the devs uploading the packages to the repos.  report it as a bug, if you wish.17:03
Terranimyeah, I figured it might be. I'll run an update later and see if it's been fixed, only worth reporting if it persists I guess. Thanks17:04
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ahoxhi, what is the best way to do booklet printing under kde? There used to be a nice booklet printing in kde3 days, but I am not able to find it anymore. Any ideas?17:24
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nerdy_kidamarok screwed up and started 206 jobs on me! is there any way to kill them all? (beside clicking them all)  I tried restarting and everything and they are still there.18:43
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PasNoxHi19:33
PasNoxnepomuk / soprano is making my dolphin too much instable - often freezing, many crash19:33
PasNoxi'm tired19:33
PasNoxhow i can desinstall of things relatied to it ?19:33
Alexia_Deathjust disable it19:34
Alexia_Deaththere is a page in settings for that. I think it was unde advanced.19:34
Alexia_DeathI disabled mine.19:34
PasNoxi disabled too19:35
Alexia_DeathIt was torturing my cpu and consuming almost 4GB of space in my home folder.19:35
PasNoxbut i style have crash related too nepomuk / soprano in dolphin19:35
PasNoxand still lagging / freezing19:35
PasNoxi also delete the virtuoso db generated by it19:36
Alexia_DeathPasNox: Disabling was enough to make it stop pestering me... Have you rebooted since disabling it?19:37
PasNoxnot yet19:37
PasNoxi will try in some minute - have to finish a task19:37
PasNoxthanks19:37
Alexia_DeathIf you havent rebooted it's probably simply still running. the enable/disable just removes it from startup afaik.19:38
PasNoxoki19:40
zubatacciao19:50
Peace-zubatac: hi19:51
mvki just updated my maverick install20:16
mvkbut now all i see, after rebooting - is a terminal login20:16
mvki verified the dmesg/ Xorg0.log -> but there are not errors in there20:16
mvkis there something fishy in the last updates? (i already tried reinstalling graphics drivers.. but no result, they load fine anyhow)????20:17
mvki cannot use my computer anymore now20:20
Picimvk: Maverick support is in #ubuntu+120:20
mvkis there a way to check all logs for errors trough the console?20:20
mvkPici: im using K(de)buntu20:20
Picimvk: And #ubuntu+1 is still the place for all variants of Maverick.20:21
mvkahhhh k thanks20:21
pawleeqhello20:25
djomgghallo20:25
djomggdo u have u r Q?20:26
djomggare u just like 2 say hi :)20:26
pawleeqHello Gimp and other GTK apps are in making annoying sound like "tok" when pressing ctrl, how can I get rid of it?20:26
djomggsound like what ?20:27
pawleeqdjomgg, like knocking on wood...20:28
djomggerr sound ore hardware sound u now20:28
djomgg:)20:28
pawleeqand I do not want to switch off my speakers :)20:28
djomgg:) 1 min20:28
djomggwhat system do u have20:29
djomggkubuntu 10.04 right ?20:29
pawleeqKubuntu 10.04, KDE 4.5.120:29
djomggu now what ask ppl inside the ubuntu support irc20:31
djomggi now noẗ match off help20:31
djomggsorry ..20:31
pawleeqok20:32
pawleeqnever mind20:32
djomggis not easy to help whit out any bug list info20:32
BluesKajpawleeq,  suystem settings/notifications/manage/ check no sounds20:32
pawleeqBluesKaj, in Players settings I can check No audio output, but that disables sounds of all notifications right?20:35
BluesKajpawleeq, it should...not sure about gtk , but it's worth a try20:36
pawleeqBluesKaj, checkech, applied, Gimp stil knocks :/20:36
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BluesKajpawleeq, do you have gnome installed as well ?20:37
pawleeqBluesKaj, yes20:37
pawleeqBluesKaj, and Gimp shuts up there20:37
BluesKajthen relogin to gnome and find the equivalent settings20:38
BluesKajmaybe gimp has a n option to turn sounds off20:38
pawleeqBluesKaj, perhaps gconf clould help...20:38
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pawleeqBluesKaj, Gimp does not have that option and gconf is a bit creepy with its tree structure20:42
BluesKajpawleeq, gconf ?20:47
pawleeqBluesKaj, gconf-editor20:47
BluesKajok pawleeq , try gconf-editor/gnome sounds/enable_esd , uncheck that , see it it works ...I have my sound setup turned off atm20:51
pawleeqBluesKaj, it works, thank you  very much, you saved my nerves ... and hardware :)20:54
aristideciao a tutti21:02
Pici!it | aristide21:02
ubottuaristide: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)21:02
rorkhi21:02
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BladegashI don't know if this is a frequently happening thing, but I upgraded to kubuntu 10.10 rc just now and lost sound after the upgrade. Checked volume, mp3 packages etc.  The only playback device in system settings is "internal audio analog stereo", it's as if my audio hardware isn't recognized at all. Any ideas where to start looking?21:14
SuchimanBladegash the sound system has changed to pulseaudio, had the same problem. I've uninstalled pulseaudio and restarted system. Alsa was Working proberly again after restart and sound works again21:16
BladegashSuchiman: ok, thanks, that sounds like something I can try21:17
Suchimannp21:18
cuzntsudo: /etc/sudoers is mode 0640, should be 044021:18
cuznthelp on that pls21:18
crackstorehye all21:22
crackstoreany sofware for shoutcast in kubuntu?21:22
SuchimanKnow anyone how i can disable my touchpad automatically if i plug-in my external USB mouse ? manually its possible by executing synclient touchpadoff=1 ; This is my Mouse http://suchiman.selfip.org/maus.jpeg21:26
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BladegashSuchiman: that did the trick indeed, thanks21:30
BladegashHope it get s fixed for the final release, or at least a mention high up in the faq21:30
crackstoreanyone know how to setup shoutcast in kubuntu?21:31
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PasNoxAlexia_Death: i restarted computter, and dolphin still free/lag/crash :(21:36
PasNoxthe probleme is that it does not generate a "good" backtrace for reporting a bug21:36
Alexia_Deathinstall some dev packages for QT21:36
Alexia_Deathbuild-dep-s for dolphin should quarantee good trace.21:37
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PasNoxi already installed nearly all kde dbg package21:39
PasNoxAlexia_Death: it's still not create a good bt :(21:39
PasNoxdamn21:39
PasNoxit seem the bugs comes from dolphin file preview / tooltip21:40
PasNoxthe big blue tooltip21:40
PasNoxi will try to deactivate it21:40
PasNoxwow21:41
PasNoxeven just click configuration menu freeze dolphin ...21:41
PasNoxit was not doing that before i do the last upgrade of kde / qt 4.721:41
olskolirci want to upgrade to lucid and every time I do that, I lose X and can't login and have to reinstall back to Karmic to be safe :-( how can I upgrade to lucid without losing X please?21:43
PasNoxinstall from scratch / fresh iso ?21:43
PasNoxupgrade are fucking things - for all os.21:43
IdleOne!language | PasNox21:44
ubottuPasNox: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.21:44
Alexia_DeathPasNox: I had an ubuntu install that started as I think edgy and went on upgrading all the way to karmic21:44
olskolircok ill do that then21:44
Alexia_DeathPasNox: But it did take some handholding on some upgrades.21:44
PasNoxAlexia_Death: most of the time i try to upgrade, my system is slow or upgrade break many things - i'm tired of that and now each time a major release is out, i format all except my home partition21:45
Alexia_Deatholskolirc: You can burn the iso, then try an upgrade again. If it doesnt work, just reinstall.21:45
olskolircAlexia_Death, can I drag and drop the iso to a flash drive and install it that way or does it require a "burn"?21:46
PasNoxu can try to create an usb stick21:46
PasNoxso u don't have to burn it21:46
Alexia_Deatholskolirc: You cant install like that21:46
olskolircway cool PasNox21:46
olskolircoh ok Alexia_Death so PasNox how do i usb stickit?21:46
olskolirclol21:46
PasNoxuse software21:46
PasNoxlet me find again the name :D21:46
olskolircthanks PasNox21:47
James147!liveusb21:47
Alexia_Deatholskolirc: creating a flash drive is a separate process. there is a guide for it somewhere in ubuntu docs. Look it21:47
ubottuFor information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent21:47
Alexia_Deathaah:)21:47
James147eaiset way is to use usb-creator-kde from kubuntu or unetbootin from another distro/windwos21:48
PasNoxunetbootin exactly this one21:48
PasNoxeasy and working21:48
PasNox+ it's already packaged21:48
Alexia_DeathI used unetbootin in ubuntu even I think...21:48
PasNoxdunno if available for karmic21:48
PasNoxJames147: if i recall, usb-creator-kde is just creating a boot on the usb for booting cd rom ?21:49
PasNoxor it des exactly what does unetbootin ?21:49
James147usb-creator creates a live usb from an iso21:49
PasNoxah ok, great ;)21:50
olskolircwhats the alternate x86 about whats the diff between regular meerkat iso?21:50
James147x86 is for 32bit compuiters21:51
James147(will also run on 64bit ones)21:51
olskolircwhats alternate James14721:51
James147maverick (meerkat) is the next release of kubuntu (current is lucid) which is due in a few days21:51
olskolircthats what "alternate" install means James147 ?21:52
James147olskolirc: the alternitive disk is a installer for older/unusual computers.... its a fully text baised isntaller that tends to be used when the live version dosent work21:52
James147I would suggest you try the live version, and only use the alternitive if the live dosnt work21:53
olskolircok way cool James147 and has anyone had any problems with PVR 150 card scrambling the tv display with vlc on Meerkat?21:53
James147olskolirc: I have no clue :) you might want to ask on #ubuntu+1 (maverick support untill its released)21:54
olskolircthanks James14721:55
sebersoleis the general recommendation for vpn to use networkmanager or kvpnc?22:01
olskolircwhere is the women channel of kubuntu i forgot22:01
howlymowlyhi poeple..  short silver_hookuestion:  in earlier version of  plasma desktop than 4.5 it was possible to manually remove widgets from the add-widgetsdialog.  is this somehow possible now?  because I have two crashed widgets which do not show up anymore, thus I can not remove them...22:31
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scott__hello22:57
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crackstorehye all23:02
crackstorehow to find audio group?23:02
crackstorehello23:04
crackstoreanyone here?23:04
octanitrocubanehi23:04
djusticecrackstore: 'groups'? kuser?23:04
djustice'kdesu kuser' ofc.23:05
crackstoreYour system has an audio group, but you are not a member of it.23:05
crackstorePlease add yourself to the audio group by executing (as root):23:05
crackstorewhat that mean?23:05
djusticecrackstore: means run 'kdesu kuser', find you user, configure it's groups, and check 'audio'23:05
djusticei have no idea why your user isnt in the audio group... pretty sure it is...23:06
crackstoreok.. so how to set it?23:06
crackstorei want to setup idjc for my laptop :)23:06
crackstorebut cannot run it because of that prob23:06
djusticebtw: all newbs reading this: -never- 'sudo kdeapp'. it leaves bad permissioned files behind. 'kdesu kdeapp' instead.23:06
djusticecrackstore: i dont know what that is.. but i just told you.23:06
djustice[22:05] <djustice> crackstore: means run 'kdesu kuser', find you user, configure it's groups, and check 'audio'23:07
crackstorehow tu run kdesu kuser?23:07
crackstorei mean how to find that23:07
crackstore@@23:09
crackstorehow to configure groups?23:09
crackstorein file system?23:09
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crackstorehrllo23:10
crackstorehello23:10
crackstoreanyone can help me.. plz..23:11
crackstorehuhuhu23:11
crackstorehow to set the group?23:15
crackstore@@23:17
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darkdelusionsYou should just beable to click on settings>Advanced>user managment23:33
dasKreechcrackstore: Hello23:33
dasKreechwant the long way or the short way?23:33
darkdelusionsits n23:38
darkdelusionsoops23:38
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