[00:01] <manfredrasta> done
[00:01] <szczur> busy day, today :)
[00:01] <manfredrasta> now
[00:01] <manfredrasta> how do i remove the package  i installed before?
[00:01] <szczur> why do you wan't to remove the wicd?
[00:02] <szczur> if you want to do this again run synaptic, choose wicd and choose reinstall package
[00:02] <szczur> or you can run sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a to configure all packages that wasn't installed properly
[00:03] <manfredrasta> id like to now how to remove it. Do it. And then ill reinstall it
[00:03] <manfredrasta> just to learn
[00:03] <szczur> you want to do it from terminal?
[00:03] <szczur> or synaptic?
[00:04] <manfredrasta> i just learned how to do it from synaptica
[00:05] <manfredrasta> XD
[00:05] <szczur> ok, now it's the time for the terminal way :)
[00:05] <manfredrasta> differences between delete and complete delete?
[00:05] <szczur> delete leaves the configuration located in /etc folder
[00:05] <szczur> complete delete removes that too
[00:06] <manfredrasta> why should i want to leave the configuration?
[00:06] <szczur> sometimes you just want to remove the program, for a brief moment
[00:06] <szczur> so if you have changed something in configuration
[00:06] <manfredrasta> ok
[00:07] <manfredrasta> and from the terminal
[00:07] <szczur> and you don't have to lose it you choose the remove option
[00:07] <manfredrasta> sudo remove wicd?
[00:07] <szczur> from terminal
[00:07] <manfredrasta> is like that?
[00:08] <szczur> sudo apt-get remove wicd - this willl remove the package
[00:08] <szczur> or sudo apt-get purge wicd - this will remove  the package WITH the configuration files
[00:08] <manfredrasta> ok
[00:08] <szczur> Complete removal in synaptic
[00:08] <szczur> remove is the normal removal
[00:08] <manfredrasta> but, what is wicd for
[00:09] <szczur> purge = complete removal
[00:09] <manfredrasta> i dont see any changes
[00:09] <szczur> wicd is the program similar to network manager
[00:09] <manfredrasta> or is equal or there is somthing not working
[00:10] <szczur> after reboot you should see the wicd manager at the bottom of the screen
[00:10] <szczur> if you don't see it
[00:10] <manfredrasta> ok
[00:10] <szczur> you can run wicd in terminal
[00:10] <szczur> or it was wicd-daemon
[00:10] <szczur> something like that
[00:10] <manfredrasta> let me reboot
[00:10] <szczur> don't know exactly since i don't use it right now
[00:11] <manfredrasta> can i run sudo reboot from terminal¿
[00:11] <szczur> yes, of course :)
[00:11] <manfredrasta> better to close all programs before isnt it?
[00:11] <szczur> make no difference
[00:11] <manfredrasta> really?
[00:11] <szczur> it's just like you would do it from the menu
[00:11] <szczur> :)
[00:11] <szczur> only you do it from terminal
[00:12] <manfredrasta> yes but
[00:12] <szczur> sudo reboot reboots your PC
[00:12] <szczur> and sudo halt shuts it down
[00:12] <szczur> manfredrasta, but what?
[00:12] <manfredrasta> can it make problems if i have programs opened and rebbot¿
[00:13] <szczur> it you will reboot in while the package installation is in progress
[00:13] <szczur> it can do problems
[00:13] <szczur> but you won't do it while the synaptic or apt-get runs
[00:14] <szczur> it wouldn't make sense :)
[00:14] <manfredrasta> ok
[00:14] <manfredrasta> bye then
[00:14] <manfredrasta> thanks
[00:14] <bodhizazen> bodhizazen1751
[00:14] <szczur> don't say bye. you have to come here again :P
[00:15] <szczur> hi bodhizazen
[00:15] <bodhizazen> 'lo szczur
[00:15]  * szczur waves to wolfgang too
[00:15] <szczur> gaah, didn't know it will be busy night :)
[00:16] <szczur|HDESK> :)
[00:16] <bodhizazen> LMAO szczur|HDESK
[00:16] <szczur|HDESK> ^^
[00:17] <szczur|HDESK> MikeChelen, are you still with us?
[00:17] <szczur|HDESK> or you overcome this error?
[00:17] <bodhizazen> wolfgang, wanted to learn Linux
[00:18] <bodhizazen> so today we hacked his HD into a few spaces, and installed lubuntu and F12
[00:18] <bodhizazen> lubuntu 10.10 alpha2
[00:18] <bodhizazen> he is having problems with chromium
[00:18] <bodhizazen> any known bugs on chromium in alpha2 ?
[00:18] <szczur|HDESK> first, he should update to beta2 :P
[00:19] <szczur|HDESK> which was released 3 days ago
[00:20] <szczur|HDESK> if he updated system, he should get the newest packages
[00:20] <szczur|HDESK> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Developers/Maverick/Beta/2#Known%20bugs
[00:20] <szczur|HDESK> nothing related to chromium
[00:21] <bodhizazen> he is on da Beta 2
[00:22] <bodhizazen> OK, well when he types a search @ google, the google page crashes
[00:22] <bodhizazen> so he has to change his search engine to Yahoo
[00:22]  * bodhizazen will walk wolfgang99 through a bug report =)
[00:23] <szczur|HDESK> this would be the best thing to do
[00:23] <szczur|HDESK> Cannot help you with that since i don't use chromium :)
[00:23] <bodhizazen> chromium going to be the default browser in the final release ?
[00:24] <bodhizazen> or are you going to go with firefox ?
[00:24] <bodhizazen> Chromium is looking better all the time, but I tend to find it a bit buggy at times
[00:24] <szczur|HDESK> it is the default browser, but personally i don't like it so i installed firefox
[00:24] <szczur|HDESK> as i always do
[00:24] <szczur|HDESK> one thing you can try to is to install the version from the ppa
[00:24] <szczur|HDESK> https://launchpad.net/~chromium-daily/+archive/ppa
[00:25] <szczur|HDESK> and check if the problem is still here
[00:25] <bodhizazen> =)
[00:25] <bodhizazen> I have to look at the sources on lubuntu
[00:26] <szczur|HDESK> please make the bugreport. I'm stilll on 10.04 and cannot check it at this moment
[00:27] <szczur|HDESK> i will probably install 10.10 on the laptop tomorrow :)
[00:28] <wolfgang99> i am registered
[00:28] <bodhizazen> sweet +
[10:28] <tbeemster> howdy
[11:19] <manfredrasta> hi all
[11:19] <manfredrasta> szczur, are u here?
[11:19] <szczur> yes
[11:19] <manfredrasta> ciao
[11:19] <szczur> :)
[11:19] <manfredrasta> allrigth?
[11:19] <szczur> hi manfredrasta
[11:19] <manfredrasta> u remember me?
[11:19] <szczur> yes
[11:19] <manfredrasta> ok :)
[11:19] <szczur> WiFi guy :)
[11:19] <manfredrasta> Yea
[11:19] <manfredrasta> have a question
[11:20] <manfredrasta> yesterday I installed wicd
[11:20] <manfredrasta> so can I unisntall network manager?
[11:20] <szczur> you should
[11:20] <manfredrasta> ok
[11:20] <szczur> and probably it is uninstalled
[11:20] <manfredrasta> no no
[11:21] <manfredrasta> the icon in the right bottom near the clock
[11:21] <manfredrasta> is already there
[11:21] <manfredrasta> Im gonna uninstall it
[11:21] <szczur> because these packets are in conflict with each other
[11:21] <szczur> is this icon is the same as it was before?
[11:21] <szczur> i'm not sure of this :)
[11:22] <manfredrasta> I am really sure :)
[11:22] <manfredrasta> now i have both icons
[11:22] <manfredrasta> on of nm
[11:22] <manfredrasta> and other of wicd
[11:22] <szczur> hmm
[11:22] <szczur> you have right
[11:23] <manfredrasta> so, should i uninstall packets network-manager and network-manager-gnome
[11:23] <szczur> i can bet all my monet that these packages were in conflict in ubu 9.04 or even in 9.10
[11:23] <manfredrasta> both?
[11:23] <szczur> yes, uninstall them both
[11:24] <manfredrasta> to remove network-manager it says that i have also to remove networ-manager-gnome (which i could suppouse) and lubuntu-gnome (wich i dont know if its right to remove)
[11:24] <manfredrasta> sorry
[11:24] <manfredrasta> i mean lubuntu-desktop
[11:24] <manfredrasta> (not lubuntu-gnome)
[11:25] <szczur> it is safe to remove lubunmtu-desktop
[11:25] <szczur> it is only a meta package
[11:25] <szczur> a package which installs other packages using it's dependencies but does nothing by itself
[11:26] <manfredrasta> and you usually use complete remove o normal
[11:26] <szczur> usually i use complete removal
[11:27] <manfredrasta> i reboot
[11:27] <szczur> ok
[11:29] <manfredrasta> szczur, hi
[11:29] <manfredrasta> no nw icon now
[11:29] <manfredrasta> :)
[11:31] <szczur> :)
[11:33] <szczur> but is wicd working?
[11:33] <szczur> are you able to connect to your network?
[11:39] <szczur> aparently it is not :)
[12:37] <manfredrasta> hi
[12:37] <manfredrasta> So, i fixed my wireless problem. No cable anymore!
[12:37] <manfredrasta> I also have WPA2 password!
[12:37] <manfredrasta> Now my problem is about the video
[12:38] <manfredrasta> It's slow
[12:38] <manfredrasta> Videos from for example youtube are really slow
[12:38] <manfredrasta> what can i do?
[12:40] <manfredrasta> should I install any driver?
[12:40] <szczur> what graphic card do you have?
[12:40] <szczur> in this laptop?
[12:41] <manfredrasta> hi man
[12:41] <manfredrasta> are you always here?
[12:41] <manfredrasta> you're the best
[12:41] <szczur> most of the time :)
[12:41] <manfredrasta> something like lscpi?
[12:41] <szczur> every time i am in home
[12:41] <szczur> yes
[12:42] <manfredrasta> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Trident Microsystems CyberBlade/XP (rev 63)
[12:46] <manfredrasta> still here?
[12:47] <szczur> yup, searching possible solutions
[12:47] <manfredrasta> How do you search? Google?
[12:48] <szczur> yeah, mostly
[12:52] <szczur> there aer posts but from year 2007 :/
[12:52] <szczur> hmm
[12:52] <szczur> will try to do it later
[12:53] <szczur> now i have to go to my friend to ask about going to work
[13:09] <manfredrasta> Kurdistan, hi man
[13:09] <manfredrasta> Kurdistan, do you remember me?
[13:09] <Kurdistan> yeah
[13:09] <manfredrasta> Kurdistan, i fixed it
[13:09] <Kurdistan> :) I need help myself right know
[13:09] <manfredrasta> Kurdistan, thanks to you
[13:09] <Kurdistan> manfredrasta nice
[13:10] <Kurdistan> what did help
[13:10] <Kurdistan> ?
[13:10] <manfredrasta> installing wicd
[13:10] <manfredrasta> with that i can conect now
[13:10] <manfredrasta> also with wpa2 encript
[13:10] <Kurdistan> nice that I could be to any help
[13:10] <manfredrasta> yea
[13:10] <manfredrasta> thanks
[13:11] <manfredrasta> I let you ask
[13:11] <manfredrasta> then ill ask you something :)
[13:14] <Kurdistan> any body here that can help me with fan speed under lubuntu lucid?
[13:16] <manfredrasta> wow! can you control fan speed?
[13:18] <manfredrasta> anybody can help me with my video? It is slow
[13:18] <manfredrasta> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Trident Microsystems CyberBlade/XP (rev 63)
[13:18] <manfredrasta> please
[13:30] <manfredrasta> anyone can help me?
[14:08] <signorlaine> good day
[14:08] <signorlaine> how am i able to add/remove applications in the menu
[14:10] <signorlaine> cannot make any changes to the menu://applications/
[14:10] <signorlaine> and when opening the folder as root it is empty
[17:42] <Kurdistan> I guys
[17:42] <Kurdistan> I really need your help
[17:47] <Timo_> just ask
[17:47] <Timo_> don't ask to ask :)
[17:47] <Kurdistan> timo you know anything abot fan speed?
[17:47] <Kurdistan> and how I can set up my fan?
[17:48] <Kurdistan> it is constantly running and does not calm down
[17:49] <IAmNotThatGuy> Kurdistan: that means a lot of process is running at the back. and my machine also does the same always as I run plenty of applications simultaneously
[17:50] <Kurdistan> IamNotThatGuy
[17:50] <IAmNotThatGuy> and may be Dust. try using Compessed air
[17:50] <Kurdistan> even when I am doing nothing after upstart
[17:50] <IAmNotThatGuy> compressed*
[17:50] <Kurdistan> Iamnotthatguy I have used compressed air for for almonst 1 month ago
[17:51] <IAmNotThatGuy> Kurdistan: check out the applications sleeping and look for the processor usage too
[17:52] <IAmNotThatGuy> if your process increases, processor gets heated and to reduce the heat, fan speeds up. there is no codes/ stuff that you can write or install to slow it down
[17:53] <Kurdistan> okey pastebain?
[17:53] <IAmNotThatGuy> sure
[17:56] <Kurdistan> http://paste.ubuntu.com/505833/
[17:59] <IAmNotThatGuy> Kurdistan: had you tried with other Operating System or a distro?
[17:59] <IAmNotThatGuy> and still your fan runs the same speed?
[18:03] <Kurdistan> before I used ubuntu
[18:03] <Kurdistan> I had this problem after my laptop went to service
[18:03] <Kurdistan> they said that they changed systemcard
[18:04] <Kurdistan> before after upstart when I was not doing anything it was calmer
[18:04] <Kurdistan> even if my temperature is okey
[18:05] <Kurdistan> http://paste.ubuntu.com/505845/
[18:05] <Kurdistan> I am running xchat
[18:05] <Kurdistan> chromium
[18:05] <Kurdistan> terminal
[18:05] <Kurdistan> the temperature is really god
[18:05] <Kurdistan> but the speed is to high
[18:24] <Kurdistan> no help here then :(
[18:31] <Kurdistan> what is the difference between nvidia current and nvidia current modalis?
[18:33] <IAmNotThatGuy> Kurdistan: It MUST be a Hardware Issue. try with another distro so that we can judge anything
[18:35] <Kurdistan> IAmNotThatGuy I dont really have time to make switch again
[18:36] <IAmNotThatGuy> like running a Live CD
[18:36] <Kurdistan> when maverick comes out I will try the normal ubuntu
[18:36] <IAmNotThatGuy> there is nothing with the Operating system from my point of view
[18:37] <Kurdistan> IAmNotThatGuy will livecd tell anything?
[18:37] <sgh> no he meant that you don't need to install a new distro, just download a LiveCD of another distro and try it out
[18:37] <IAmNotThatGuy> if your fan runs in the same speed, then check your Hardware
[18:37] <IAmNotThatGuy> it has issues
[18:41] <Kurdistan> okey thx for the tip
[18:41] <Kurdistan> I will do that one day I have more time to download and make bootable usb livecd
[18:41] <IAmNotThatGuy> nice
[18:42] <IAmNotThatGuy> but check your Hardware first
[18:42] <Kurdistan> how do I check my hardware?
[18:42] <Kurdistan> :)
[18:42] <IAmNotThatGuy> by giving it in a store :P
[18:42] <Kurdistan> I know the fan is correct installed
[18:43] <Kurdistan> it came from the store some weeks ago
[18:43] <IAmNotThatGuy> huyour processor is getting over heated (I think)
[18:43] <Kurdistan> days to be more correct
[18:43] <IAmNotThatGuy> s/huyour/your
[18:44] <Kurdistan> what is huyour?
[18:45] <Kurdistan> will use my old livecd with ubuntu 9.10
[18:45] <Kurdistan> have nice day
[18:47] <IAmNotThatGuy> Bah! Typos :/
[19:24] <Timo_> hey Yorvyk! Long time no see!
[20:35] <gos> Hi, how can i upgrade to the beta-2 without losing my apps my data and my own desktop?
[20:36] <gos> from lubuntu beta1
[20:36] <bioterror> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[20:36] <gos> ok
[20:37] <bioterror> if you're using 10.10 beta 1
[20:37] <bioterror> or what ever it is ;)
[20:37] <gos> not my beta is lubuntu 10.04.1 lts
[20:38] <bioterror> oh
[20:38] <bioterror> just a moment :d
[20:38] <bioterror> !help
[20:39] <bioterror> :-)
[20:39] <bioterror> !upgrade
[20:39] <bioterror> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MaverickUpgrades
[20:39] <bioterror> Press Alt-F2 and type update-manager --devel-release
[20:40] <bioterror> try that one
[20:41] <gos> from ucc of ubuntu i can upgrade to 10,10 ubuntu, but i cant upgrade to 10.10 lubuntu
[20:41] <bioterror> ol good way was to replace the version is repository files to decent ones
[20:42] <bioterror> %s/lucid/maverick/g ;)
[20:42] <bioterror> but afair that doesnt work in ubuntu that way like it was in debian
[20:50] <gos> bioterror, update-manager say : "available the new version 10.10 of ubuntu,"   Should I choose it to upgrade to 10.10 from Lubuntu 10.04.1 Lubuntu lts?
[20:50] <bioterror> it's your choise ;)
[20:51] <bioterror> I've been using this one for months
[20:52] <gos> But will update to beta2 Lubuntu 10.10?
[20:53] <gos> If  i choose this option?
[20:59] <gos> bioterror, I have a reasonable doubt
[21:05] <bioterror> szczur, should gos do upgrade from 10.04 to 10.10 with update-manager --devel-release? say something :D
[21:06] <szczur> phew :)
[21:06] <szczur> dunno
[21:06] <szczur> :P
[21:06] <szczur> i'm on 10.10 right now
[21:06] <gos> ok
[21:06] <szczur> and it is stable
[21:06] <szczur> what is the problem?
[21:07] <gos> sczur i want to upgrade at lubuntu beta2 from lubuntu 10.04.1 lts
[21:08] <szczur> i'd say, go for it if you want to have fresh packages :)
[21:09] <bioterror> why eat outdated fish when you can get fresh :D
[21:09] <szczur> fresh fish can be toxic :)
[21:11] <bioterror> yeah, fishes are full of mercury
[21:11] <gos>  szczur,i  just want improvements of  Lubuntu beta2 for beta2 10.04.1lts
[21:12] <gos> for beta 1 10.04.1 lts
[21:15] <gos> bioterror ; in the head of the fish are concentrated mercury 90/100, do not eat fish heads
[21:22] <gos> bioterror, i will wait to be clear on how to upgrade to beta 2 from  Lubuntu beta1 10.04 LTS
[21:23] <gos> i will wait to be clear on how to upgrade to beta 2 since Lubuntu beta1 10.04 LTS
[21:23] <szczur> but 10.04 is no more beta
[21:24] <szczur> bnevermind
[21:24] <szczur> you can run terminal
[21:24] <gos> ok
[21:24] <szczur> and type update-manager -d
[21:24] <szczur> and it will show that new version of system is available
[21:25] <szczur> you will able to perform the update to 10.10
[21:25] <szczur> http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/maverick/beta
[21:25] <gos> ok
[21:25] <szczur> section "Upgrading from Ubuntu 10.04 LTS"
[21:25] <bioterror> I already did !upgrade
[21:26] <bioterror> ;)
[21:26] <gos> but whre is lubuntu beta2 only is ubuntu 10.10 to upgrade
[21:26] <bioterror> hahaha
[21:26] <bioterror> you will get the latest packages
[21:26] <bioterror> dont you worry aout that
[21:26] <gos> ok
[21:27] <bioterror> there's a reason why I am more and more moving toward the rolling distributions
[21:28] <gos> ok
[21:33] <gos> bioterror, ok , now, I'll take my chances
[21:34] <gos> with the upgrade
[21:36] <bioterror> niiice
[21:36] <bioterror> you gathered all your courage ;)
[21:36] <gos> but many applications no longer work since they have no upgrade for 10.10
[21:38] <gos> bioterror, many applications stopped working with update 10.10
[21:38] <bioterror> what kind of applications?
[21:38] <bioterror> which ones?
[21:38] <sneekylinux> hi all
[21:38] <gos> because these applications are not available for 10.10
[21:39] <bioterror> there's always something to replace them
[21:39] <bioterror> and the replacements are lighter and faster
[21:40] <gos> xbcm for example?
[21:40] <gos> for 10.10
[21:40] <bioterror> xbox media center?
[21:40] <gos> yes
[21:41] <gos> mobile media converter
[21:41] <gos> ?
[21:42] <bioterror> https://launchpad.net/~team-xbmc#ppas
[21:43] <bioterror> seems like they are not offering it for a maverick
[21:43] <sneekylinux> they will in time
[21:43] <bioterror> yeah
[21:44] <gos> yes, package for 1:0.0~git20100815.6df10a0-1~
[21:44] <gos> xbox
[21:45] <gos> bioterror, but many applications stopped working with update 10.10
[21:45] <gos> imsure
[21:45] <gos> im sure
[21:45] <sneekylinux> update or upgrade?
[21:46] <gos> upgrade at 10.10 since 10.04
[21:46] <sneekylinux> that could be your problem mate
[21:47] <bioterror> I've been using only 10.10, I don't know what I'm missing :-)
[21:48] <sneekylinux> ive been using ubuntu and its derivitives for a long time now ,and an upgrade imho is a bad way to go,better to re-install and have fresh
[21:48] <bioterror> hmmm
[21:49] <bioterror> I've used since 5.04 and upgraded them to 08.04, since that it's been more like "fresh is the way" :)
[21:49] <sneekylinux> as things allways change mate
[21:49] <gos> There are some applications that only work with a particular version of the distribution
[21:54] <gos> bioterror, No sé cuál será el resultado esperar a una versión más estable y garantizada
[21:54] <bioterror> what?
[21:54] <bioterror> I dont have google translate in my irc client ;)
[21:54] <gos> I do not know what the outcome will wait for a version more stable and guaranteed
[21:54] <gos> sorry
[21:54] <bioterror> not bad idea
[21:55] <bioterror> why to fix something that is working?
[21:55] <bioterror> (actually I'm a wrong guy to ask that ;)
[21:57] <gos> always want to improve
[22:03] <gos> bioterror, bioterror, install opera and you can use their application independent translator ,inserted into your desktop or bar without opening opera
[22:04] <gos> is very comfortable and the translator is good usability
[22:09] <bioterror> I've sold my soul to G!
[22:11] <gos> bioterror, I have wasted much of my life in order toasily use ubuntu
[22:12] <bioterror> I've wasted a lot of my life ircing :-)
[22:14] <gos> ... to use ubuntu easily
[22:15] <bioterror> but good night ;)
[22:16] <gos> bioteerror, ok tomorow more yet
[22:18] <gos> bioterror, se fine by today , good night