[00:01] done [00:01] busy day, today :) [00:01] now [00:01] how do i remove the package i installed before? [00:01] why do you wan't to remove the wicd? [00:02] if you want to do this again run synaptic, choose wicd and choose reinstall package [00:02] or you can run sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a to configure all packages that wasn't installed properly [00:03] id like to now how to remove it. Do it. And then ill reinstall it [00:03] just to learn [00:03] you want to do it from terminal? [00:03] or synaptic? [00:04] i just learned how to do it from synaptica [00:05] XD [00:05] ok, now it's the time for the terminal way :) [00:05] differences between delete and complete delete? [00:05] delete leaves the configuration located in /etc folder [00:05] complete delete removes that too [00:06] why should i want to leave the configuration? === yfoel is now known as yofel [00:06] sometimes you just want to remove the program, for a brief moment [00:06] so if you have changed something in configuration [00:06] ok [00:07] and from the terminal [00:07] and you don't have to lose it you choose the remove option [00:07] sudo remove wicd? [00:07] from terminal [00:07] is like that? [00:08] sudo apt-get remove wicd - this willl remove the package [00:08] or sudo apt-get purge wicd - this will remove the package WITH the configuration files [00:08] ok [00:08] Complete removal in synaptic [00:08] remove is the normal removal [00:08] but, what is wicd for [00:09] purge = complete removal [00:09] i dont see any changes [00:09] wicd is the program similar to network manager [00:09] or is equal or there is somthing not working [00:10] after reboot you should see the wicd manager at the bottom of the screen [00:10] if you don't see it [00:10] ok [00:10] you can run wicd in terminal [00:10] or it was wicd-daemon [00:10] something like that [00:10] let me reboot [00:10] don't know exactly since i don't use it right now [00:11] can i run sudo reboot from terminal¿ [00:11] yes, of course :) [00:11] better to close all programs before isnt it? [00:11] make no difference [00:11] really? [00:11] it's just like you would do it from the menu [00:11] :) [00:11] only you do it from terminal [00:12] yes but [00:12] sudo reboot reboots your PC [00:12] and sudo halt shuts it down [00:12] manfredrasta, but what? [00:12] can it make problems if i have programs opened and rebbot¿ [00:13] it you will reboot in while the package installation is in progress [00:13] it can do problems [00:13] but you won't do it while the synaptic or apt-get runs [00:14] it wouldn't make sense :) [00:14] ok [00:14] bye then [00:14] thanks === bodhi is now known as bodhizazen [00:14] bodhizazen1751 [00:14] don't say bye. you have to come here again :P [00:15] hi bodhizazen [00:15] 'lo szczur [00:15] * szczur waves to wolfgang too [00:15] gaah, didn't know it will be busy night :) === szczur is now known as szczur|HDESK [00:16] :) [00:16] LMAO szczur|HDESK [00:16] ^^ [00:17] MikeChelen, are you still with us? [00:17] or you overcome this error? [00:17] wolfgang, wanted to learn Linux [00:18] so today we hacked his HD into a few spaces, and installed lubuntu and F12 [00:18] lubuntu 10.10 alpha2 [00:18] he is having problems with chromium [00:18] any known bugs on chromium in alpha2 ? [00:18] first, he should update to beta2 :P [00:19] which was released 3 days ago [00:20] if he updated system, he should get the newest packages [00:20] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Developers/Maverick/Beta/2#Known%20bugs === wolfgang is now known as wolfgang99 [00:20] nothing related to chromium [00:21] he is on da Beta 2 [00:22] OK, well when he types a search @ google, the google page crashes [00:22] so he has to change his search engine to Yahoo [00:22] * bodhizazen will walk wolfgang99 through a bug report =) [00:23] this would be the best thing to do [00:23] Cannot help you with that since i don't use chromium :) [00:23] chromium going to be the default browser in the final release ? [00:24] or are you going to go with firefox ? [00:24] Chromium is looking better all the time, but I tend to find it a bit buggy at times [00:24] it is the default browser, but personally i don't like it so i installed firefox [00:24] as i always do [00:24] one thing you can try to is to install the version from the ppa [00:24] https://launchpad.net/~chromium-daily/+archive/ppa [00:25] and check if the problem is still here [00:25] =) [00:25] I have to look at the sources on lubuntu [00:26] please make the bugreport. I'm stilll on 10.04 and cannot check it at this moment [00:27] i will probably install 10.10 on the laptop tomorrow :) [00:28] i am registered [00:28] sweet + === szczur|HDESK is now known as szczur === ZachK_ is now known as zkriesse [10:28] howdy === tbeemster is now known as Timo_ [11:19] hi all [11:19] szczur, are u here? [11:19] yes [11:19] ciao [11:19] :) [11:19] allrigth? [11:19] hi manfredrasta [11:19] u remember me? [11:19] yes [11:19] ok :) [11:19] WiFi guy :) [11:19] Yea [11:19] have a question [11:20] yesterday I installed wicd [11:20] so can I unisntall network manager? [11:20] you should [11:20] ok [11:20] and probably it is uninstalled [11:20] no no [11:21] the icon in the right bottom near the clock [11:21] is already there [11:21] Im gonna uninstall it [11:21] because these packets are in conflict with each other [11:21] is this icon is the same as it was before? [11:21] i'm not sure of this :) [11:22] I am really sure :) [11:22] now i have both icons [11:22] on of nm [11:22] and other of wicd [11:22] hmm [11:22] you have right [11:23] so, should i uninstall packets network-manager and network-manager-gnome [11:23] i can bet all my monet that these packages were in conflict in ubu 9.04 or even in 9.10 [11:23] both? [11:23] yes, uninstall them both [11:24] to remove network-manager it says that i have also to remove networ-manager-gnome (which i could suppouse) and lubuntu-gnome (wich i dont know if its right to remove) [11:24] sorry [11:24] i mean lubuntu-desktop [11:24] (not lubuntu-gnome) [11:25] it is safe to remove lubunmtu-desktop [11:25] it is only a meta package [11:25] a package which installs other packages using it's dependencies but does nothing by itself [11:26] and you usually use complete remove o normal [11:26] usually i use complete removal [11:27] i reboot [11:27] ok [11:29] szczur, hi [11:29] no nw icon now [11:29] :) [11:31] :) [11:33] but is wicd working? [11:33] are you able to connect to your network? [11:39] aparently it is not :) [12:37] hi [12:37] So, i fixed my wireless problem. No cable anymore! [12:37] I also have WPA2 password! [12:37] Now my problem is about the video [12:38] It's slow [12:38] Videos from for example youtube are really slow [12:38] what can i do? [12:40] should I install any driver? [12:40] what graphic card do you have? [12:40] in this laptop? [12:41] hi man [12:41] are you always here? [12:41] you're the best [12:41] most of the time :) [12:41] something like lscpi? [12:41] every time i am in home [12:41] yes [12:42] 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Trident Microsystems CyberBlade/XP (rev 63) [12:46] still here? [12:47] yup, searching possible solutions [12:47] How do you search? Google? [12:48] yeah, mostly [12:52] there aer posts but from year 2007 :/ [12:52] hmm [12:52] will try to do it later [12:53] now i have to go to my friend to ask about going to work [13:09] Kurdistan, hi man [13:09] Kurdistan, do you remember me? [13:09] yeah [13:09] Kurdistan, i fixed it [13:09] :) I need help myself right know [13:09] Kurdistan, thanks to you [13:09] manfredrasta nice [13:10] what did help [13:10] ? [13:10] installing wicd [13:10] with that i can conect now [13:10] also with wpa2 encript [13:10] nice that I could be to any help [13:10] yea [13:10] thanks [13:11] I let you ask [13:11] then ill ask you something :) [13:14] any body here that can help me with fan speed under lubuntu lucid? [13:16] wow! can you control fan speed? [13:18] anybody can help me with my video? It is slow [13:18] 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Trident Microsystems CyberBlade/XP (rev 63) [13:18] please [13:30] anyone can help me? [14:08] good day [14:08] how am i able to add/remove applications in the menu [14:10] cannot make any changes to the menu://applications/ [14:10] and when opening the folder as root it is empty === Mohan_chml is now known as IAmNotThatGuy === IAmNotThatGuy is now known as Mohan_chml === Mohan_chml is now known as IAmNotThatGuy [17:42] I guys [17:42] I really need your help [17:47] just ask [17:47] don't ask to ask :) [17:47] timo you know anything abot fan speed? [17:47] and how I can set up my fan? [17:48] it is constantly running and does not calm down [17:49] Kurdistan: that means a lot of process is running at the back. and my machine also does the same always as I run plenty of applications simultaneously [17:50] IamNotThatGuy [17:50] and may be Dust. try using Compessed air [17:50] even when I am doing nothing after upstart [17:50] compressed* [17:50] Iamnotthatguy I have used compressed air for for almonst 1 month ago [17:51] Kurdistan: check out the applications sleeping and look for the processor usage too [17:52] if your process increases, processor gets heated and to reduce the heat, fan speeds up. there is no codes/ stuff that you can write or install to slow it down [17:53] okey pastebain? [17:53] sure [17:56] http://paste.ubuntu.com/505833/ [17:59] Kurdistan: had you tried with other Operating System or a distro? [17:59] and still your fan runs the same speed? [18:03] before I used ubuntu [18:03] I had this problem after my laptop went to service [18:03] they said that they changed systemcard [18:04] before after upstart when I was not doing anything it was calmer [18:04] even if my temperature is okey [18:05] http://paste.ubuntu.com/505845/ [18:05] I am running xchat [18:05] chromium [18:05] terminal [18:05] the temperature is really god [18:05] but the speed is to high [18:24] no help here then :( [18:31] what is the difference between nvidia current and nvidia current modalis? [18:33] Kurdistan: It MUST be a Hardware Issue. try with another distro so that we can judge anything [18:35] IAmNotThatGuy I dont really have time to make switch again [18:36] like running a Live CD [18:36] when maverick comes out I will try the normal ubuntu [18:36] there is nothing with the Operating system from my point of view [18:37] IAmNotThatGuy will livecd tell anything? [18:37] no he meant that you don't need to install a new distro, just download a LiveCD of another distro and try it out [18:37] if your fan runs in the same speed, then check your Hardware [18:37] it has issues [18:41] okey thx for the tip [18:41] I will do that one day I have more time to download and make bootable usb livecd [18:41] nice [18:42] but check your Hardware first [18:42] how do I check my hardware? [18:42] :) [18:42] by giving it in a store :P [18:42] I know the fan is correct installed [18:43] it came from the store some weeks ago [18:43] huyour processor is getting over heated (I think) [18:43] days to be more correct [18:43] s/huyour/your [18:44] what is huyour? [18:45] will use my old livecd with ubuntu 9.10 [18:45] have nice day [18:47] Bah! Typos :/ [19:24] hey Yorvyk! Long time no see! [20:35] Hi, how can i upgrade to the beta-2 without losing my apps my data and my own desktop? [20:36] from lubuntu beta1 [20:36] sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade [20:36] ok [20:37] if you're using 10.10 beta 1 [20:37] or what ever it is ;) [20:37] not my beta is lubuntu 10.04.1 lts [20:38] oh [20:38] just a moment :d [20:38] !help [20:39] Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [20:39] :-) [20:39] !upgrade [20:39] For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade [20:39] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MaverickUpgrades [20:39] Press Alt-F2 and type update-manager --devel-release [20:40] try that one [20:41] from ucc of ubuntu i can upgrade to 10,10 ubuntu, but i cant upgrade to 10.10 lubuntu [20:41] ol good way was to replace the version is repository files to decent ones [20:42] %s/lucid/maverick/g ;) [20:42] but afair that doesnt work in ubuntu that way like it was in debian [20:50] bioterror, update-manager say : "available the new version 10.10 of ubuntu," Should I choose it to upgrade to 10.10 from Lubuntu 10.04.1 Lubuntu lts? [20:50] it's your choise ;) [20:51] I've been using this one for months [20:52] But will update to beta2 Lubuntu 10.10? [20:53] If i choose this option? [20:59] bioterror, I have a reasonable doubt [21:05] szczur, should gos do upgrade from 10.04 to 10.10 with update-manager --devel-release? say something :D [21:06] phew :) [21:06] dunno [21:06] :P [21:06] i'm on 10.10 right now [21:06] ok [21:06] and it is stable [21:06] what is the problem? [21:07] sczur i want to upgrade at lubuntu beta2 from lubuntu 10.04.1 lts [21:08] i'd say, go for it if you want to have fresh packages :) [21:09] why eat outdated fish when you can get fresh :D [21:09] fresh fish can be toxic :) [21:11] yeah, fishes are full of mercury [21:11] szczur,i just want improvements of Lubuntu beta2 for beta2 10.04.1lts [21:12] for beta 1 10.04.1 lts [21:15] bioterror ; in the head of the fish are concentrated mercury 90/100, do not eat fish heads === fredrik__ is now known as |friTTe| [21:22] bioterror, i will wait to be clear on how to upgrade to beta 2 from Lubuntu beta1 10.04 LTS [21:23] i will wait to be clear on how to upgrade to beta 2 since Lubuntu beta1 10.04 LTS [21:23] but 10.04 is no more beta [21:24] bnevermind [21:24] you can run terminal [21:24] ok [21:24] and type update-manager -d [21:24] and it will show that new version of system is available [21:25] you will able to perform the update to 10.10 [21:25] http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/maverick/beta [21:25] ok [21:25] section "Upgrading from Ubuntu 10.04 LTS" [21:25] I already did !upgrade [21:26] ;) [21:26] but whre is lubuntu beta2 only is ubuntu 10.10 to upgrade [21:26] hahaha [21:26] you will get the latest packages [21:26] dont you worry aout that [21:26] ok [21:27] there's a reason why I am more and more moving toward the rolling distributions [21:28] ok [21:33] bioterror, ok , now, I'll take my chances [21:34] with the upgrade [21:36] niiice [21:36] you gathered all your courage ;) [21:36] but many applications no longer work since they have no upgrade for 10.10 [21:38] bioterror, many applications stopped working with update 10.10 [21:38] what kind of applications? [21:38] which ones? [21:38] hi all [21:38] because these applications are not available for 10.10 [21:39] there's always something to replace them [21:39] and the replacements are lighter and faster [21:40] xbcm for example? [21:40] for 10.10 [21:40] xbox media center? [21:40] yes [21:41] mobile media converter [21:41] ? [21:42] https://launchpad.net/~team-xbmc#ppas [21:43] seems like they are not offering it for a maverick [21:43] they will in time [21:43] yeah [21:44] yes, package for 1:0.0~git20100815.6df10a0-1~ [21:44] xbox [21:45] bioterror, but many applications stopped working with update 10.10 [21:45] imsure [21:45] im sure [21:45] update or upgrade? [21:46] upgrade at 10.10 since 10.04 [21:46] that could be your problem mate [21:47] I've been using only 10.10, I don't know what I'm missing :-) [21:48] ive been using ubuntu and its derivitives for a long time now ,and an upgrade imho is a bad way to go,better to re-install and have fresh [21:48] hmmm [21:49] I've used since 5.04 and upgraded them to 08.04, since that it's been more like "fresh is the way" :) [21:49] as things allways change mate [21:49] There are some applications that only work with a particular version of the distribution [21:54] bioterror, No sé cuál será el resultado esperar a una versión más estable y garantizada [21:54] what? [21:54] I dont have google translate in my irc client ;) [21:54] I do not know what the outcome will wait for a version more stable and guaranteed [21:54] sorry [21:54] not bad idea [21:55] why to fix something that is working? [21:55] (actually I'm a wrong guy to ask that ;) [21:57] always want to improve [22:03] bioterror, bioterror, install opera and you can use their application independent translator ,inserted into your desktop or bar without opening opera [22:04] is very comfortable and the translator is good usability [22:09] I've sold my soul to G! [22:11] bioterror, I have wasted much of my life in order toasily use ubuntu [22:12] I've wasted a lot of my life ircing :-) [22:14] ... to use ubuntu easily [22:15] but good night ;) [22:16] bioteerror, ok tomorow more yet [22:18] bioterror, se fine by today , good night === yofel_ is now known as yofel