[08:45] <hrw> morning
[13:13] <lag> robclark: Morning
[13:13] <robclark> gm lag
[13:13] <lag> Hey buddy, how are you?
[13:13] <robclark> still a bit bleary eyed..  but coffee is starting to do it's job ;-)
[13:14] <lag> Because it's Monday, or did you go out last night?
[13:14] <robclark> no.. just a bit early still.. sun is only just starting to come up
[13:15] <lag> Ah, okay
[13:15] <lag> robclark: You're in Texas aren't you?
[13:15] <robclark> yup
[13:15] <lag> Is Bryan there with you?
[13:16] <robclark> no one is here with me yet.. but I think some will be here later in the morning (although not sure who all)
[13:17] <lag> I'm assuming he'll have access to IRC when he arrives?
[13:18] <robclark> Hmm.. I assume we can work something out..
[13:20] <lag> Excellent :)
[13:23] <ogra_ac> lag, bryan is here already we'll meet in 40min for breakfast
[13:23] <robclark> gm ogra_ac
[13:23] <ogra_ac> hey rob :)
[13:23] <lag> ogra_ac: Good stuff
[13:23] <lag> Do you know the current state of the sound issue?
[13:23]  * ogra_ac is up since 3h ... damned jetlag
[13:23] <robclark> doh
[13:24] <lag> Yeah, I have jet-lag from Thailand
[13:24] <ogra_ac> lag, only that there was much progress on the kernel side and that we still need userspace fixes
[13:24] <robclark> lag: sound seems much better w/ audio patches from L24.10 backported
[13:24] <robclark> one small default.pa change.. since hdmi is now device 0,7 (IIRC)..
[13:24] <ogra_ac> and that time is getting short to get the userspace sorted (2 days left for uploads)
[13:24] <lag> Does the card now report itself to Sound Preferences?
[13:24] <ogra_ac> it does report itself to alsa
[13:25] <ogra_ac> i think PA still needs the devices in the config
[13:25] <lag> Excellent
[13:25] <lag> Is there anything I need to do?
[13:25] <ogra_ac> not sure, i'll ask bryan later
[13:25] <lag> Or is kernel sound done for the release
[13:25] <lag> That's what I'm waiting for ... :)
[13:25] <ogra_ac> mpoirier dod much of the testing, i think we need him around too
[13:25] <robclark> ogra_ac, lag:  is the kernel you are using already having the big stack of audio patches that are here: http://dev.omapzoom.org/?p=integration/kernel-ubuntu.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/for-ubuntu-2.6.35
[13:27] <robclark> fyi, on another topic.. updated geexbox packages (enna, libnfo, libplayer, etc) are created for debian: http://www.geexbox.org/sympa/arc/devel/2010-10/msg00009.html
[13:27] <robclark> would be nice to get these in maverick
[13:28] <lag> It doesn't look like it, no
[13:28] <robclark> I've got a few more things to do in libplayer, but now it is starting to work well with hw accel codecs (and opengles)
[13:28] <lag> sebjan: --^
[13:31] <sebjan> lag: hi! the L24.10 audio patches are not pushed yet to the official kernel branch. They are still under test. cooloney did build an image for testing including these patches.
[13:32] <robclark> sebjan: after I figured out that the HDMI device changed, the L24.10 patches seemed a big improvement
[13:33] <lag> sebjan: Then I need to catch up with Bryan (after he's had his breakfast) :)
[13:33] <lag> ogra_ac: Is mpoirer there with you too?
[13:34] <ogra_ac> no
[13:34] <lag> k
[13:34] <ogra_ac> only bryan, tobin, ricardo and me
[13:36] <sebjan> lag: please have look at bug 637947
[13:36] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 637947 in linux-ti-omap4 (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 1 other project) "no sound devices on current ES2.0 boards (affects: 1) (heat: 16)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/637947
[13:36] <lag> sebjan: I have - it's my bug :)
[13:36] <sebjan> lag: Bryan did provide the location of the image he built with audio, + some updates from berco
[13:37] <sebjan> lag: ok, :) These are the latest updates I have regarding audio. Berco did test it sucessfully and we are happy with these patches also.
[13:37] <lag> sebjan: They're no good to me - sound doesn't work on my board due to a hardware fault
[13:38] <lag> I'm interested to know if the card is reported to Sound Preferences without the script and configuration hacks?
[13:39] <sebjan> berco1: ^  (I think this is still the open issue right now, even with these updates)
[13:43] <lag> Userspace?
[14:15] <dmart> ogra_ac: hey there... do I guess correctly from your nick that you got http://ac100.gudinna.com/ working?  Any good?
[14:20] <ogra_ac> dmart, fsvo good, it runs
[14:20] <ogra_ac> dmart, http://forums.computers.toshiba-europe.com/forums//thread.jspa?threadID=56355&start=75&tstart=0
[14:20] <ogra_ac> seems it generated some interest at toshiba at least
[14:24] <dmart> ogra_ac: if would be great if toshiba could be persuaded to help with the effort :)
[14:24]  * dmart still tempted
[14:25] <ogra_ac> dmart, well, they seem to look for community support
[14:25] <ogra_ac> and that post above sounds like they are willing to help to some extend
[14:27] <dmart> sounds positive, overall
[14:27] <dmart> can I have a look @ UDS?
[14:28] <ogra_ac> sure
[14:28] <dmart> thanks :)
[14:28] <ogra_ac> seems someone just made alsa work :D
[14:29]  * ogra_ac just got a tarball with modules
[14:36] <dmart> $ aplay fanfare.raw
[14:39] <ogra_ac> dmart, well, not that far yet
[14:39] <ogra_ac> ogra@ac100:/lib/modules/2.6.29-arm2-svn1996/kernel/drivers$ cat /proc/asound/cards
[14:39] <ogra_ac>  0 [tegra          ]: tegra-generic-cotegra - tegra
[14:39] <ogra_ac>                       tegra (tegra-generic-codec)
[14:39] <ogra_ac> even the string is mangled
[14:39] <ogra_ac> but the modules load
[14:40] <dmart> hmmm, well it sounds like progress anyhow
[14:40] <ogra_ac> ogra@ac100:/lib/modules/2.6.29-arm2-svn1996/kernel/drivers$ ls /dev/snd/
[14:40] <ogra_ac> controlC0  pcmC0D0c   pcmC0D0p   timer
[14:40] <ogra_ac> no mixer though
[14:40] <ogra_ac> will still need hacking
[14:40] <dmart> Does aplay "work" (even if no sound output)
[14:41] <ogra_ac> no
[14:41] <ogra_ac> it will need tinkering
[14:41] <ogra_ac> i guess as long as the mixer isnt there alsa will fail
[14:41] <dmart> I don't believe aplay touches the mixer (?)
[14:42] <ogra_ac> but it needs to know what the card is
[14:42] <dmart> Does something like aplay -Dhw:0,0 not work?
[14:43] <ogra_ac> http://paste.ubuntu.com/505743/
[14:43] <ogra_ac> seems android blocks access to the socket
[14:44] <dmart> No socket is used for alsa audio, but aplay tries to route via pulseaudio which may be what's happening.  strace might be informative there
[14:45] <ogra_ac> ha !
[14:45] <dmart> I did write a hack to play audio through a device node directly, bypassing the alsa userspace stuff... but with no mixer node, I guess you may not be able to unmute anyway...
[14:45] <ogra_ac> there is a special android daemon i have to run
[14:46] <ogra_ac> works now
[14:46] <dmart> ugh
[14:46] <ogra_ac> binary nvidia stuff :(
[14:46] <ogra_ac> no sources
[14:47] <dmart> maybe this is down to the android-ised nature of the drivers
[14:47] <ogra_ac> sadly that toool also enables userspace cpufreq
[14:47] <ogra_ac> which makes the whole system really slow
[14:47] <dmart> hmmm, that ought to affect android too, not just ubuntu?
[14:48] <rsalveti> morning
[14:48] <rsalveti> ogra_ac: hey, didn't sleep?
[14:48] <rsalveti> :-)
[14:48] <ogra_ac> rsalveti, got up at 5:30 :(
[14:48] <rsalveti> lag: we'll try to follow up the audio issues today, will keep you posted in case you can help us :-)
[14:48] <ogra_ac> rsalveti, we're sitting downstairs
[14:49] <rsalveti> basically we have 2 issues now, one is that alsa is not loading the mixer settings file, and the other is that pulse is not getting the correct default routing
[14:49] <rsalveti> ogra_ac: cool, had your breakfast already?
[14:49]  * rsalveti going down in a minute
[14:49] <ogra_ac> dmart, no, it dynamically en/disables the second cpu based on load ... not a biggie in android wheer you dont really have multitasking
[14:49] <ogra_ac> but noticeable in ubuntu
[14:49] <dmart> ah
[14:49] <ogra_ac> shitty userspace power management
[14:50] <rsalveti> ogra_ac: ouch, would be even harder for brian I'd say
[14:50] <dmart> can running the same magic daemon enable that to work, or is it more tricky than that?
[14:51] <ogra_ac> i run it on ubuntu atm
[14:51] <ogra_ac> prob is that it has all the paths of the helper apps hardcoded
[14:51] <ogra_ac> so i need to do weird stuff to my filesystem
[14:51] <dmart> meh
[14:52] <ogra_ac> (cteating /system/bin and fiddling with LD_LIBRARY_PATH)
[14:52]  * ogra_ac reboots
[15:26] <mpoirier> GrueMaster: good morning
[17:05] <lag> sebjan: Does the OTG port work on the Panda?
[17:09] <hrw> lag: wasn't it working on ES1 versions as only usb port?
[17:09] <lag> It was
[17:09] <lag> How about ES2.0/1
[17:10] <hrw> no idea - waiting for hw
[19:25] <rsalveti> yeeh, we're back on-line
[19:25] <rsalveti> sharing a 3g connection :-)
[19:29] <rsalveti> cooloney: ogra_ac: hey!
[19:29] <rsalveti> it seems to work!
[19:29] <cooloney> rsalveti: good, man, thx
[19:29] <rsalveti> np :-)
[19:29] <ogra_ac> yay
[19:29] <ogra_ac> my lag meter goes mad in xchat though
[19:50] <cooloney> mpoirier: hey, man.
[19:50] <mpoirier> cooloney: hello bryan,
[19:50] <cooloney> mpoirier: i've rebased the audio fix patches here
[19:50] <cooloney> http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=roc/ubuntu-maverick.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/ti-omap4
[19:51] <cooloney> and kernel http://people.canonical.com/~roc/kernel/audio/
[19:51] <mpoirier> cool, just haven't seen any confirmation - was wondering if you had time.
[19:52] <cooloney> mpoirier: we are working on that, wanna make the sound work.
[19:52] <mpoirier> ya... are you working with Irg and friends ?
[19:54] <mpoirier> in any case, I'm available for testing
[19:55] <mpoirier> if you want me to investigate something that you don't have time with, just poke me.
[20:00] <cooloney> mpoirier: great, man. i'm working with ogra, rsalveti and GrueMaster here
[20:01] <cooloney> lag: did you get any progress on the sound issue of es2.0?
[20:03] <mpoirier> cooloney: have you ever built the linaro tree ?
[20:08] <cooloney> mpoirier: oh, no, never tried that
[20:40] <directhex> I swear I'm not smoking crack here... does Firefox on ARM really define its plugin ABI as Linux_unknownABI?