[04:28] <revstray> hey, good guess at channel name :) I ran into a bug during the upgrade from Lucid to Maverick, I had nvidia drivers installed and the path to the drivers didn't appear to make it to the new xorg.conf
[04:28] <revstray> re-dling the drivers, install, nvidia-xconfig made it right but this may be a bug you guys want to take a look at :)
[04:30] <revstray> just FYI, I can'tfigure out how to submit this in launchpad, cheers.
[04:34] <hggdh> nice. Fire & forget.
[04:35] <crimsun> indeed.  It's hard enough tracking the ones that come across ubuntu-devel-discuss@.
[04:36] <crimsun> (and #ubuntu+1 and the other irc channels...)
[04:56] <AbhiJit> hi
[05:10] <rusivi> ;)
[05:10] <AbhiJit> (;
[05:13] <rusivi> hehe still focusing on bug 147203 not really had much progress as I have been all over the map in other bugs/endeavors.
[05:14] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 147203 in linux (Ubuntu) "Netgear WG111T not auto-sensed (dups: 2) (heat: 27)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147203
[05:14] <rusivi> I'll grind on it for an hour or two and see where it takes me
[05:19] <micahg> rusivi: you might want to start here and see if the device id is there: http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Devices
[05:19] <rusivi> micahg: Ok ty, do you recommend also my reviewing http://madwifi-project.org/ ?
[05:21] <micahg> rusivi: yeah, since it's atheros, that's a good idea
[05:24] <rbhatta> Hi I am using Maverick
[05:24] <rbhatta> when using youtube.. i am finding issue with fullscreen viewing
[05:24] <rbhatta> i am using firefox
[05:25] <rbhatta> anybody knows if this is a known bug
[05:25] <rusivi> !10.10 | rbhatta
[05:25] <ubot2> rbhatta: Maverick Meerkat is the codename for Ubuntu 10.10, due October 10, 2010 - Maverick Release Candidate at http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/1010 , discussion and support in #ubuntu+1
[05:25] <micahg> rbhatta: you haven't described a bug yet :)
[05:25] <micahg> rbhatta: please join me in #ubuntu-mozillateam
[05:26] <rbhatta> the bug is that adobe flash does not allow fullscreen viewing
[05:26] <rbhatta> the screen freezes
[05:26] <micahg> rbhatta: #ubuntu-mozillateam for firefox issues :)
[05:26] <rusivi> !firefox | rbhatta
[05:26] <ubot2> rbhatta: firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins - See also !firefox-3.5
[05:26] <micahg> rusivi: you're right, I'm taking maintainer privilege on this one
[05:26] <rusivi> hehe go for it
[05:27] <rbhatta> hmm ok.. thanks i will join the channel for opening this.. wanted to check if this was seen by others
[05:27] <rbhatta> thanks again
[05:27] <rusivi> micahg: looks like an outstanding tkt exists for madwifi tracker atheros wg111t http://madwifi-project.org/ticket/2114
[05:28] <rusivi> do you recommend adding it to the existing tkt as upstream?
[05:28] <micahg> sure, project is madwifi
[05:28] <rusivi> consider it done
[05:41] <AbhiJit> hey
[05:41] <AbhiJit> is this a gunuine bug? or just timepass?
[05:41] <AbhiJit> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual/+bug/653642
[05:41] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 653642 in ubuntu-manual "Typo string 950 (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]
[05:41] <AbhiJit> which photo he is talking about?
[05:52] <AbhiJit> ??
[06:01] <rusivi> AbhiJit: I just looked at that bug, IDK what the OP is suggesting, may be a good one to consider for wishlisting, may be education/invalidate... I would ask for a screenshot+expansion of this but I'm one opinion among many, more experienced ones.
[06:02] <AbhiJit> rusivi, yah but i didnt understood the bug at all. what he is saying about
[06:02] <rusivi> The OP is being too presumptuous (been there done that) for me to address it without asking for further information.
[06:03] <AbhiJit> hmm
[06:04] <micahg> that bug is out of the scope of this channel, I'm not sure where the channel is for the manual
[06:06] <AbhiJit> i thought that every bug should be discussed here only
[06:06] <AbhiJit> manual channel is #ubuntu-manual
[06:06] <micahg> AbhiJit: no, only ubuntu project bugs, we try to direct other people to the appropriate resources when they come in here with something else
[06:06] <micahg> s/project/distro/
[06:07] <AbhiJit> ohh
[06:07] <rusivi> !manual
[06:07] <ubot2> The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/
[06:08] <rusivi> ubot2 Could you please show the chat for Ubuntu Manual? ty, smooches
[06:08] <ubot2> rusivi: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[06:13] <rusivi> micahg: well 1 hour into it, looks like some have found success with ndiswrapper for the Netgear WG111T as per Netgear/Ubuntu forum posts. Nada so far on Kernel/madwifi but still looking.
[06:30] <rusivi> Also found a dedicated community post regarding ndiswrapper https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/WG111T
[06:36] <AbhiJit> aldsfjsdj
[06:55] <RedSingularity> Anyone know how I can go about getting a mentor?
[06:55] <micahg> !mentor | RedSingularity
[06:55] <ubot2> RedSingularity: Looking for a helping hand with bug triage? Read the wiki for information about requesting a bugsquad mentor: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/Mentors
[06:56] <RedSingularity> Thanks :)
[09:40] <AbhiJit> hey
[09:40] <AbhiJit> should i mark this bug as whishlist?
[09:40] <AbhiJit> https://bugs.launchpad.net/lernid/+bug/649296
[09:40] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 649296 in lernid "Question button acting strange (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]
[09:40] <AbhiJit> oh but i cant
[09:40] <AbhiJit> :(
[09:41] <AbhiJit> some mark it please
[09:43] <micahg> AbhiJit: that's not a bug in Ubuntu, but in Lernid which we cannot do anything with
[09:44] <AbhiJit> micahg, bug lernid is buntu package naa?
[09:44] <AbhiJit> i mean its ubuntu project only?
[09:44] <micahg> AbhiJit: yes, but unless there's an Ubuntu task, it's not a bug In Ubuntu that we can do anything with
[09:45] <AbhiJit> ohh ok
[09:45] <AbhiJit> micahg, should i ask this user to attach screenshot or photo?
[09:45] <AbhiJit> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm/+bug/654424
[09:45] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 654424 in gdm (Ubuntu) "Login screen is stretched in widescreens (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]
[09:46] <micahg> AbhiJit: idk, you might want to ask the gnome experts in a few hours
[09:47] <AbhiJit> ok where are they?
[09:47] <micahg> idk, pedro and hggdh would be the ones to ask
[09:47] <AbhiJit> ok thanks micahg
[10:31] <layn> hi
[10:31] <layn> ok
[10:33] <layn> I'm new to the irc and the new BugSquad
[10:33] <layn> my name is layn
[10:48] <layn_> hi
[10:48] <layn_> I am a new member
[11:12] <layn_> Hi
[11:14] <layn_> hi andre___
[11:14] <andre___> olla
[11:15] <layn_> I am a new member
[11:16] <layn_> I try to understand the functioning of both the IRC team
[11:16] <layn_> have time to help me
[11:24] <layn> How to check duplicate bugs
[11:29] <AbhiJit> !mentor | layn
[11:29] <ubot2> layn: Looking for a helping hand with bug triage? Read the wiki for information about requesting a bugsquad mentor: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/Mentors
[11:30] <AbhiJit> layn, read the bugsquad page, triage guide
[11:31] <layn> wow thanks a lot friendly but above all it is a pleasure to meet you
[11:31] <layn> I read the guide but I would like to investigate further thanks again
[11:41] <layn> how to add or create a wiki page
[11:41] <layn> ?
[12:22] <AbhiJit> layn, first create account on ubuntu wiki and then you can create wiki
[12:23] <AbhiJit> layn, and yesterday i come to know that you dont need wiki for bug squad
[12:23] <Gigacore> hey AbhiJit.. good evening
[12:24] <AbhiJit> Gigacore, good evening!
[12:24]  * AbhiJit wonders why no one here today!
[12:26] <layn> Digita il testo o l'indirizzo di un sito web oppure traduci un documento.
[12:26] <layn> Annulla
[12:26] <layn> Ascolta
[12:26] <layn> Traduzione da Italiano verso Inglese
[12:26] <layn> I've resolved I'm trying to edit the wiki
[12:26] <Gigacore> AbhiJit: will apply for mentorship now!
[12:27] <AbhiJit> layn, ?????
[12:27] <AbhiJit> !en | layn
[12:27] <ubot2> layn: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList
[12:27] <AbhiJit> Gigacore, good
[12:27] <Gigacore> AbhiJit: from how long have you been doing this?
[12:28]  * AbhiJit goes to cross check in launchpad
[12:28] <AbhiJit> Gigacore, Member since:
[12:28] <AbhiJit> 2010-01-14
[12:29] <Gigacore> but from when are you triaging?
[12:29] <Gigacore> am member since 2007-04-28 ;)
[12:30] <AbhiJit> ohhh
[12:30] <AbhiJit> dunno might be from february or april
[12:30] <Gigacore> neat
[12:31]  * AbhiJit goes to check bugsquad aproval email
[12:32] <AbhiJit> Gigacore, 13 July 2010 23:36
[12:32] <AbhiJit> to be exact!
[12:32] <AbhiJit> and vish approved me!!! :D
[12:34] <Gigacore> cool
[12:35] <layn> wow thanks a lot friendly but above all it is a pleasure to do there is room BugSquod Italian
[12:35] <AbhiJit> layn, you are asking or telling?
[12:38] <layn> you're right sorry I asked was a question :)
[12:38] <njin> hello fellows! what's this bug 649855
[12:38] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 649855 in ubuntu "xfs_quota hard limit no longer working (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/649855
[12:39] <AbhiJit> layn, answer is 'no'
[12:39] <AbhiJit> !it | it
[12:39] <ubot2> it: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)
[12:39] <AbhiJit> :(
[12:39] <AbhiJit> layn, ^^^^^
[12:41] <layn> hey ok it was a simple question
[12:45] <AbhiJit> :->
[12:47] <yofel> njin: quota hard limit means that when you exceed your user disk quota you can't write to the disk anymore
[12:47] <yofel> and xfs has integrated quota management
[12:48] <njin> yofel: thanks for explication
[13:01] <layn> bll
[16:32] <hggdh> pedro_: moi, I have bug 654249 that should actually be looked at by the desktop team. Whom should I assign it to?
[16:32] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 654249 in libnss-ldap (Ubuntu) "libnss-ldap create troubles in gnome session when ldap server is unreacheable (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/654249
[16:32] <pedro_> moi hggdh, let me have a look
[16:34] <pedro_> hggdh, better to open a gdm task and file that upstream
[16:35] <pedro_> isn't critical and there's a workaround for it
[16:35] <hggdh> pedro_: will do, thank you
[16:35] <pedro_> hggdh, you're welcome
[16:35] <pedro_> btw having a log of that delay on gdm would be nice
[16:59] <hggdh> pedro_: like what? .xsession-errors, or /var/log/XLog.0.log?
[17:00] <pedro_> hggdh, xsession-errors and the logs from /var/lib/gdm , probably the ones coming from ldap as well to know if the connection was made, etc
[17:00] <hggdh> pedro_: roj
[17:31] <AbhiJit> before setting the importance the bugs 'status' must be set accordingly
[17:31] <AbhiJit> am i right?
[17:31] <AbhiJit> who is Sebastien Bacher
[17:32] <AbhiJit> he hasnt written his irc nick on launchpad and not formed his wiki. and he is running to set all the bugs importance to low
[17:32] <Pici> AbhiJit: seb128
[17:32] <AbhiJit> seb128, ping
[17:35] <pedro_> AbhiJit, not really, there's no requirement on setting that
[17:35] <AbhiJit> pedro_, ok
[17:35] <AbhiJit> pedro_, he is suggesting that
[17:35] <AbhiJit> the bug
[17:35] <AbhiJit> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm/+bug/644909
[17:35] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 644909 in gdm (Ubuntu) "login screen freezes (affects: 1) (heat: 292)" [Low,New]
[17:36] <AbhiJit> is dupplicate of
[17:36] <AbhiJit> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm/+bug/640184
[17:36] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 640184 in gdm (Ubuntu) "gdm hangs randomely (affects: 1) (heat: 196)" [Low,New]
[17:36] <AbhiJit> pedro_, so should i mark one bug as duplicate of another?
[17:36] <pedro_> let me have a look, one sec
[17:37] <AbhiJit> hmm
[17:37] <pedro_> AbhiJit, yeah they do look similar, could you perhaps request the gdm logs and Xorg ones?
[17:37] <pedro_> those are located at /var/log/gdm
[17:38] <AbhiJit> pedro_, one of the bug is mine only
[17:38] <pedro_> AbhiJit, could you submit those then ? ;-)
[17:38] <AbhiJit> :)
[17:38] <AbhiJit> pedro_, ok i subumit it wait
[17:38] <pedro_> thanks AbhiJit
[17:38] <AbhiJit> :)
[17:39] <AbhiJit> brb 1 sec
[17:40] <AbhiJit> hmm
[17:41] <AbhiJit> pedro_, unable to acces /var/log/gdm via termial or nautilus
[17:41] <AbhiJit> sudo cd is not working
[17:44] <seb128> AbhiJit, ?
[17:44] <seb128> AbhiJit, no you are not right, the gdm buglist is useless because people dump all they system start issues there
[17:44] <seb128> I'm setting to low everything which is not a proper bug but an user issue
[17:45] <seb128> or a request for debugging
[17:45] <pedro_> AbhiJit, you need to use sudo to access to those logs
[17:45] <AbhiJit> seb128, hello i was having a question about the importance you set to low. but we yet have not set its status. but its ok now my doubt solved
[17:45] <AbhiJit> seb128, so where to report that gdm screen issue?
[17:45] <AbhiJit> pedro_, sudo cd /var/log/gdm is not working
[17:45] <seb128> dunno, forum, answer tracker
[17:46] <AbhiJit> seb128, ok
[17:46] <seb128> it's pretty much useless as a bug report
[17:46] <pedro_> AbhiJit, copy those to your home then change the owner
[17:46] <seb128> without technical infos or a way to trigger the bug we can't work on it
[17:46] <AbhiJit> seb128, you mean its not ubuntu bug and an upstream bug? because i have account in gnome bug zilla should i report it there?
[17:47] <seb128> no, I mean it requires somebody with time to help you debug to turn that into something useful
[17:47] <AbhiJit> seb128, hmm ok
[17:48] <seb128> it's probably like hours of debugging work to figure what is wrong
[17:48] <AbhiJit> pedro_, cannt copy it either way
[17:48] <AbhiJit> :(
[17:48] <AbhiJit> seb128, yah
[17:50] <AbhiJit> pedro_, should i just ask that another user to do it!!!
[17:50] <AbhiJit> idea!!!! :D :P
[17:51] <AbhiJit> hello devildante
[17:51] <devildante> hi AbhiJit :)
[17:51] <AbhiJit> :)
[17:52] <AbhiJit> devildante, you have any suggestion why i cant access /var/log/gdm via termial or nautilus?
[17:52] <AbhiJit> niehter copy it !
[17:53] <devildante> AbhiJit: you must have root privileges
[17:53] <AbhiJit> devildante, sudo cd /var/log/gdm is not working
[17:54] <devildante> AbhiJit: you must "sudo su" and then you can access it
[17:54] <AbhiJit> ok
[17:54] <AbhiJit> devildante, pedro_ there are 5 log files. do they contain my username and password?
[17:54] <AbhiJit> or probably any other private info?
[17:55] <devildante> AbhiJut: I don't think so
[17:55] <AbhiJit> devildante, because i am now uploading it to one bug report
[17:55] <AbhiJit> pedro_, so there are 5 of them. which one to upload?
[17:55] <AbhiJit> not 5 actually
[17:56] <devildante> AbhiJit: you're better off doing "apport-collect <bugnumber>"
[17:56] <AbhiJit> 364 total
[17:56] <AbhiJit> devildante, i see
[17:56] <AbhiJit> devildante, this one
[17:56] <AbhiJit> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm/+bug/640184
[17:56] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 640184 in gdm (Ubuntu) "gdm hangs randomely (affects: 1) (heat: 196)" [Low,New]
[17:57] <devildante> AbhiJit: wait, apport-collect doesn't pull anything useful
[17:57] <devildante> (for gdm, I mean)
[17:58] <AbhiJit> devildante, ohhhh it was asking me to grant him permission to access and change private data on launchpad
[17:58] <devildante> AbhiJit: yeah, it's for adding info to the bug
[17:59] <AbhiJit> devildante, ok should i pastebin the contents of /var/log/gdm so that you can tell me which file to upload?
[18:00] <devildante> AbhiJit: I don't think those logs are necessary, but I may be wrong
[18:00] <devildante> pedro_ ^ ?
[18:00] <AbhiJit> devildante, yah pedro_ suggested me to upload that
[18:01] <pedro_> devildante, he's getting a freeze on gdm so might be a good idea to upload those
[18:01] <devildante> 'kay, but I see a lot of files there
[18:01] <AbhiJit> yes
[18:01] <AbhiJit> 364 of them
[18:01] <pedro_> at least :0.log and :0.log.1
[18:01] <pedro_> AbhiJit, ^
[18:02] <AbhiJit> pedro_, ok
[18:02] <pedro_> you need to reproduce the issue first though
[18:02] <devildante> I see only 70 :p
[18:02] <njin> pedro_: around?
[18:02] <devildante> pedro_: it's him who reported the bug
[18:03] <AbhiJit> yah its me
[18:03] <pedro_> njin, hola!
[18:03] <pedro_> devildante, i know :-)
[18:04] <pedro_> devildante, i'm asking because that way the log is not overwrite with something like logins, etc
[18:04] <devildante> good move :)
[18:06] <njin> pedro_: double click timeout in java apps bug 654526
[18:06] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 654526 in ubuntu "Java double click timeout (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/654526
[18:06] <AbhiJit> pedro_, devildante done
[18:06] <devildante> AbhiJit: great :)
[18:07] <AbhiJit> devildante, :)
[18:08] <AbhiJit> brb
[18:08]  * pedro_ -> lunch
[18:08] <pedro_> bbl
[18:11] <AbhiJit> hi
[18:11] <AbhiJit> hello duanedesign :)
[18:16] <AbhiJit> :(
[18:18] <AlexzAK> hggdh: Hi! I checked out bug #320140 today. So latest krusader from Maveric still can't copy files from one sftp to another. But with different behavior...
[18:18] <AlexzAK> Do you think i must create new bug for it? Or i can just write it into this one?
[18:18] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 320140 in krusader (Ubuntu) "can't copy between two sftp connections (heat: 4)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/320140
[18:18] <hggdh> AlexzAK: looking
[18:20] <hggdh> AlexzAK: update this bug, per https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Description (i.e., adding 'Latest Package Tested')
[18:20] <hggdh> brb -- gotta get to the Post Office
[18:21] <AlexzAK> hggdh: ok
[18:43] <drizzle1> hi all
[18:43] <drizzle1> what is the package
[18:43] <drizzle1> for this bug
[18:43] <drizzle1> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm/+bug/654649
[18:43] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 654649 in gdm (Ubuntu) "Can not set screen to lower resolution (affects: 1) (dups: 1) (heat: 12)" [Undecided,New]
[18:43] <drizzle1> is it gdm?
[18:45] <penguin42> no, that split screen is something else
[18:46] <penguin42> xserver I'd say
[18:46] <devildante> xorg package
[18:47] <drizzle1> thank you
[18:47] <penguin42> pity it doesn't have the info of which hardware he has
[18:48] <drizzle1> we need to have him run apt-get
[18:48] <drizzle1> err
[18:48] <drizzle1> i meant the command that attaches it
[18:48] <devildante> apport-collect
[18:48] <drizzle1> yea
[18:48] <drizzle1> thats it
[18:48] <penguin42> change it to xorg and then have him do that?
[18:48] <devildante> penguin42: apport-collect 654649
[18:49]  * penguin42 wonders if it would make sense for ubuntu bug to be trained to collect more info for gdm bugs since half of them are x bugs
[19:08] <yofel> penguin42: or course, write a hook for it. Actually I think the xorg hook collects gdm logs for some reason
[20:27] <RedSingularity> I just joined the bug squad in Launchpad.  Can anyone here approve it?
[20:30] <njin> at wich assign this ?
[20:30] <njin> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/513746
[20:30] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 513746 in ubuntu (and 1 other project) "Error in report_sale module (affects: 2) (heat: 21)" [Undecided,New]
[20:35] <njin> pedro_: around?
[20:35] <jibel> njin, This not an ubuntu issue but openerp and openerp 5.0.7 was not shipped with jaunty.
[20:35] <jibel> njin, to me the ubuntu task is invalid.
[20:38] <njin> jibel:thanks i mark as invalid, but what can i acconseil to the last reporter
[20:40] <jibel> njin, to talk to the openerp team but "John Daniel@Servosoft - Back from Hospital" from this team already marked the openerp task as 'invalid'.
[20:41] <jibel> njin, the last commenter should file a new report against openerp.
[20:42] <njin> jibel: ok thanks
[21:04] <RedSingularity> Can anyone approve my Launchpad bug squad request?
[21:05] <vish> RedSingularity: pasting your lp link and poking hggdh / pedro_ works … ;)
[21:06] <penguin42> Grrrs at a launchpad timeout after typing in half a backtrace
[21:07] <RedSingularity> vish: you want the link to my account?
[21:07] <pedro_> RedSingularity, please paste it
[21:07] <RedSingularity> https://launchpad.net/~redsingularity
[21:07] <pedro_> RedSingularity, did you read the Triage Guide? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToTriage
[21:08] <RedSingularity> redro_: Yes
[21:08] <pedro_> alright
[21:09] <RedSingularity> Whoops sorry, typo
[21:09] <pedro_> RedSingularity, you're approved then , welcome :-)
[21:09] <RedSingularity> pedro_:  Excellent, thanks a lot!
[21:10] <RedSingularity> pedro_ when is the next bug meeting?
[21:10] <pedro_> next week
[21:11] <pedro_> Tuesday 12th
[21:11] <RedSingularity> pedro_, thanks again :)
[21:11] <pedro_> RedSingularity, i'll send an email to the bugsquad mailing list with a reminder so make sure to be on that list as well ;-)
[21:11] <RedSingularity> pedro_, will do :)
[21:27] <hggdh> pedro_: I have been thinking about the peding requests for -control
[21:28] <hggdh> pedro_: there are some from 2008, or earlier...
[21:28] <devildante> wowzor :p
[21:29] <hggdh> pedro_: I am thinking of doing a basic cleanup there, rejecting any requests from before -- say -- 6 months ago
[21:29] <devildante> hggdh: and sending them a nice email to tell them to reconsiderate reapplying :)
[21:29] <hggdh> devildante: most certainly, and stating this is an automated cleanup, etc
[21:30] <hggdh> bdmurray: ^ what do you think?
[21:30] <pedro_> hggdh, an automated way for the old ones (more than a year) that's fine for me
[21:31] <pedro_> hggdh, probably they didn't even send a message to the mailing list
[21:31] <bdmurray> I'd feel bad if it was our / my fault.
[21:31] <hggdh> bdmurray: I very much doubt. The amount of people that seems unable to read the page is astounting
[21:31] <devildante> bdmurray: if it was our fault, we already hurt them in their feelings :p
[21:32] <bdmurray> no need to hurt them 2x ;-)
[21:32] <hggdh> heh
[21:32] <pedro_> hggdh, wanna split the list and review it by hand ;-) ?
[21:32] <devildante> bdmurray: but we can't let them think there is still hope :p
[21:33] <hggdh> pedro_: I was considering a script, but perhaps doing it by hand will sound less, er, inpersonal
[21:33] <pedro_> hggdh,  right, i was saying by hand to check the mailing list if they send a message with the application or not
[21:34] <hggdh> pedro_: ooohhh, of course!
[21:34] <pedro_> we can script the reject message
[21:36] <hggdh> pedro_: what about you take people starting with 'a', and I take those starting with 'b' and 'c'; then we advance to the rest of the alphabet
[21:36] <devildante> hggdh: can I take a letter?
[21:37] <pedro_> hggdh, was about to say let's split it into 79 and 79
[21:37] <devildante> What about me? :p
[21:37] <pedro_> but if someone else wants to help we could do piles of 20
[21:37] <hggdh> devildante: ^:-)
[21:37] <devildante> yes! I'd like to help :)
[21:37] <hggdh> welcome in, said the spider...
[21:37] <pedro_> like hggdh takes the first 20, devildante the second pile of 20 and i take the third one
[21:37] <pedro_> then we start the cycle again
[21:38] <devildante> btw, do we take application from, like, 2009 and before?
[21:38] <hggdh> cool. And we are, right now, looking for unanswered requests to the ML
[21:38] <pedro_> let's look for all, if the email was send to the ml for there's no response yet take a note and raise it at the channel
[21:39] <hggdh> devildante: actually, let's do all: those that applied and did not send email to bug-control could get a reject asking to follow instructions
[21:39] <devildante> 'kay :)
[21:39] <pedro_> hggdh, we're so connected :-)
[21:39] <hggdh> heh. I was going to say the same, but you are faster than I am
[21:39] <hggdh> as usual :-)
[21:39] <pedro_> lol
[21:39] <vish> ok break it up!
[21:39] <vish> get working!
[21:39] <hggdh> yessir!
[21:39] <pedro_> and vish takes the rest
[21:40] <devildante> +1 pedro_
[21:40] <vish> :-)
[21:40] <pedro_> so only have like 80 to review vish
[21:41] <devildante> aaaaand I just forgot I'm not an administrator, so I can't reject :p
[21:41] <penguin42> so what's supposed to happen to fixed kernel bugs - can we dupe them if we know exactly what the problem was?
[21:41] <hggdh> we will be working off https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-bugcontrol/+members
[21:41] <hggdh> penguin42: JFo will be the best to answer but as a rule of thumb, the hardware has to match
[21:42] <pedro_> devildante, but you can take note of those and paste a link with the list so we can reject those ;-)
[21:42] <pedro_> no need to be an admin to do the review
[21:42] <hggdh> devildante: use the link I pasted above
[21:42] <penguin42> hggdh: It wasn't a hardware issue; it was in generic code and I wrote a fix that went in a few versions ago
[21:42] <devildante> 'kay :)
[21:42] <devildante> so I take the second 20 :)
[21:42] <hggdh> penguin42: oh.
[21:43] <hggdh> penguin42: please clear it with JFo, but I do not see a problem there
[21:46]  * hggdh stores the bit about penguin42 doing kernel patches for the future ;-)
[21:46] <penguin42> hggdh: Hey I don't mind pulling hex apart :-)
[21:46] <hggdh> LOL
[21:47] <hggdh> penguin42: my own contributions to the kernel were quite simple, and (very few / a long time ago)
[21:48] <hggdh> been out of it since I moved to Ubuntu, bloody thing works (most of the time) here :-)
[21:48] <penguin42> hggdh: Me too mostly; a few small fixes and things that annoyed me; I did some larger things many years ago
[21:52] <devildante> is it okay to search the mailing list via google? I can't seem to find a search button :p
[21:53] <hggdh> pedro_: that's a good Q... we do not provide a search, do we? And gmane.org does not seem to have them...
[21:54] <pedro_> hggdh, i'm looking at mail-archive.com
[21:54] <pedro_> devildante,  ^
[21:54] <devildante> ah!
[21:54] <hggdh> oh
[21:54] <devildante> thanks :)
[21:54] <pedro_> you're welcome
[21:58] <pedro_> ok finished my 20's just got two members that need a review
[21:59] <devildante> already?
[21:59] <devildante> I'm slow :(
[21:59] <jcastro> pedro_: nice, you've demolished my inbox
[22:00] <pedro_> just waiting for you guys to review again to i can grab another 20
[22:00] <devildante> haha
[22:00] <pedro_> jcastro, that's the idea! :-)
[22:01]  * hggdh has barely started...
[22:02] <hggdh> pedro_: I really would like to know how you can be *that* fast...
[22:02] <hggdh> jcastro: it will get worse...
[22:02] <devildante> sorry, but what's that thing about inboxes getting demolished? :p
[22:05] <pedro_> devildante, he's getting emails because he's also on the admin group of the bugcontrol
[22:05] <devildante> aah :p
[22:05] <hggdh> pedro_: are you already rejecting?
[22:05] <pedro_> hggdh, yeap
[22:06] <hggdh> pedro_: could you pastebin the text you are sending (so it will be all the same)
[22:06] <pedro_> hggdh, i'm using the lp page to do it with the nice buttons (reject/approve/hold)
[22:06] <hggdh> oh, OK
[22:07] <pedro_> "Please read the instructions located at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugControl to know how to join the team, Thanks."
[22:07] <pedro_> just something short pointing to the instructions
[22:10] <hggdh> yeah
[22:10] <hggdh> darn, LP *is* slow...
[22:12] <penguin42> hggdh: Yeh :-(
[22:16] <devildante> pedro_: finished? want the list at paste.ubuntu.com?
[22:16] <devildante> finished!*
[22:16] <pedro_> devildante, that's be great :-)
[22:16] <pedro_> that'd
[22:16] <devildante> pedro_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/505997/
[22:17] <pedro_> thanks devildante!
[22:17] <devildante> there are a few comments there
[22:17] <devildante> and yw :)
[22:17] <pedro_> only 3 that makes 5 to review
[22:18] <devildante> so hggdh? finished? :p
[22:18] <hggdh> nah. Still battling LP
[22:18] <devildante> come on, it's not that slow :p
[22:20] <devildante> and pedro_: don't you feel guilty for not approving David Tombs? :p
[22:22] <hggdh> cyam-spam? I thought he was already in...
[22:23] <devildante> hggdh: well, he's not :p
[22:25] <hggdh> pedro_: what about http://www.mail-archive.com/ubuntu-bugcontrol@lists.launchpad.net/msg00169.html?
[22:25] <hggdh> long time ago, and no new activities since...
[22:28] <pedro_> hggdh, take note of that , we can review those after finish with the rejections
[22:28] <hggdh> k
[22:29] <pedro_> that would leave us a nice list on lp to 'really' review
[22:31] <devildante> pedro_: so I begin a new list? :)
[22:31] <pedro_> devildante, sure
[22:31] <devildante> :)
[22:36] <hggdh> ok, I am done here
[22:36] <devildante> great :)
[22:37] <devildante> mind to pastebin here for me not to overlap with your work? :p
[22:38] <hggdh> devildante: it is done until D, I think (I did the first 20). Now, wehen we reject, they vanish, I am not that sure
[22:38] <devildante> ah
[22:38] <devildante> thanks :)
[22:39]  * devildante is rebeginning from James Page
[22:43] <hggdh> pedro_: what about we both start from the end? You take the last 20, I take the next 20
[22:43] <pedro_> hggdh, already started from it :-P
[22:44] <devildante> I took the first 20 from the start (apart from those that awaits review)
[22:44] <hggdh> pedro_: OK, I will get 20 down from wherever it is now
[22:44] <hggdh> devildante: yes, we meet in the middle (I hope)
[22:44] <pedro_> hggdh, yeap i'll take the other pile
[22:44] <pedro_> haha
[22:44] <devildante> lol
[22:46] <devildante> pedro_: Jeremy Foshee is proposed for applying, although he's already in Bug Control :p
[22:46] <devildante> hggdh ^
[22:46] <pedro_> yeah that's a lp bug i think
[22:46] <hggdh> it may be he is a member of a team that has membership
[22:50] <devildante> well, I must go. sorry :(
[22:50] <devildante> here's the pastebin for what I've done: http://paste.ubuntu.com/506010/
[22:50] <devildante> bye :)
[22:51] <pedro_> see you devildante and thanks again :-)
[23:03] <hggdh> amazing the amount of people that *really* do not read the instructions
[23:05] <hggdh> and I would expect an Ubuntu member to know better...
[23:05] <hggdh> pedro_: nice cleanup so far :-)
[23:06]  * pedro_ reloading
[23:06] <pedro_> wow that's a nice list :-)
[23:09] <RedSingularity> Is it a good idea to subscribe to a bug that I am working on?  Or is there another way to be notified when the person responds to a post?
[23:11] <pedro_> RedSingularity, the only way to get notified is being subscribed to it, so yes :-)
[23:11] <pedro_> RedSingularity, thanks for helping btw!
[23:11] <RedSingularity> pedro_ thanks for helping me!  :)
[23:18] <RedSingularity> pedro_ what is the status, "in progress" used for?
[23:18] <pedro_> RedSingularity, the developers use that when they are working on fixing the issue
[23:19] <RedSingularity> Ahhh ok
[23:19] <pedro_> RedSingularity, if you're working on triaging bugs and asking for more info you need to use Incomplete ;-)
[23:19] <RedSingularity> pedro_:  Great that was my next question :)
[23:19] <pedro_> cool :-)
[23:21] <pedro_> see you guys later
[23:31] <kamusin> see you!
[23:32] <layn> hi
[23:32] <layn> Good evening to all
[23:34] <penguin42> Hi
[23:36] <charlie-tca> Do we have a bug day this week?
[23:42] <RedSingularity> charlie-tca:  Tuesday the 12th 1700 utc
[23:42] <charlie-tca> what is that?
[23:43] <RedSingularity> charlie-tca:  Do you mean a "hug day"?
[23:43] <charlie-tca> sure
[23:43] <charlie-tca> BugDay or HugDay, whichever you prefer
[23:43] <RedSingularity> Yeah then its on Tuesday, October 12th 2010, 17:00 UTC, #ubuntu-bugs
[23:44] <micahg> RedSingularity: that's our meeting :P
[23:44] <RedSingularity> yeah
[23:44] <charlie-tca> nope, that would not be right
[23:44] <micahg> RedSingularity: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/
[23:44] <charlie-tca> meetings are not BugDay
[23:45] <charlie-tca> We have the kernel bug day tomorrow, tuesday.
[23:45] <RedSingularity> Ooops sorry your right.  My mistake :P
[23:45] <charlie-tca> Did we organize a BugDay Thursday this week?
[23:45] <RedSingularity> Looks like the page needs to be updated
[23:46] <RedSingularity> layn:  good evening to you as well :)
[23:51] <layn> redSingularity:hey thanks I was reading the conversation about the bug while doing a day trip on one of the launchpad bug. excuse sometimes are often distracted when working on the machine also had a bit of trigger contol
[23:52] <RedSingularity> layn:  :)
[23:52] <layn> alright thanks I take a coffee
[23:54] <layn> I hope not soon become ugly hunchback with glasses and mole type:)