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cjwatsonI'd appreciate review of choose-mirror00:00
cjwatsona couple of people mentioned the missing proxy question during ISO testing00:00
* ScottK is totally unfamiliar with D-I, so not particularly comfortable being the reviewer.00:03
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aragood morning mvo07:55
mvohey ara, good morning08:02
mvohey, good morning jibel08:08
jibelGood morning mvo!08:09
micahgcould someone please look at bug 650601 today09:15
ubot4Launchpad bug 650601 in libfxscintilla (Ubuntu) "[FFe] Please update libfxscintilla to 2.11.0 (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/65060109:15
cjwatsonmicahg: I can't see what practical difference this enigmail upload makes?  the merge mostly seems cosmetic10:09
cjwatsonmicahg: is there something I missed?10:09
RiddellI can't log in with today's Kubuntu CD10:58
Riddell"authentication error" on linux console10:58
Riddellyep, no "ubuntu" user on the ubuntu desktop ISO either11:58
* Riddell looks at NCommander, last uploader of casper11:58
cjwatsonmeep12:02
* cjwatson rsyncs and will have a look if nobody else does12:02
cjwatsonttx: likewise-open: is this Mac as in OS X, or Mac as in powerpc, or something else?12:07
* NCommander hides out of site from Riddell's gaze.12:07
cjwatson(also I suspect that the autoconf error you're hitting might just be because the AC_CHECK_MEMBERS arguments were line-wrapped ...)12:07
NCommanderRiddell: can you get the casper log and such? the patch I cooked should only fire on UNE + ARM, if it broke Kubuntu, then I made a typo somewhere12:08
cjwatsonnot seeing an obvious reason why recent changes would have affected ubuntu user creation in any way12:08
ttxcjwatson: that would be Mac as in OSX. I tried without the linewrap... and it still failed, same error12:30
cjwatsonok - would have approved but I see somebody already did ;-)12:30
ttxcjwatson: ok, thanks12:31
ttxcjwatson: I wonder if that's the "->" in the aggregate that it doesn't like.12:31
ttxcjwatson: and.. it used to work.12:32
cjwatsonRiddell: user-setup bug actually12:40
cjwatsonogra: do check whether your changes are actually valid shell :-(12:41
cjwatson(I should have checked too when accepting it)12:42
cjwatsonRiddell: please review user-setup 1.28ubuntu10 when it lands12:43
Riddellok12:43
cjwatsonttx: should bug 600174 be on the server-mrs list?12:50
ubot4Launchpad bug 600174 in axis2c (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 1 other project) "axis2c fails to build from source in linaro (affects: 3) (dups: 1) (heat: 20)" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/60017412:50
* ttx looks12:50
ttxcjwatson: hrm, looks a bit flaky. Yes, should be on our list, will add.12:51
cjwatsonthanks12:51
ogra_accjwatson, whats wrong ?13:00
* ogra_ac checks the branch13:02
Riddellmissing bracket13:02
ogra_acargh13:02
ogra_acsorry sorry sorry13:02
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ScottKIs oneconf supposed to be in Universe?13:30
cjwatsonScottK: nothing depends on it and it's not seeded ...13:37
ScottKcjwatson: OK.  It seemed odd to see Ubuntu One stuff in Universe.13:38
seb128it's not ubuntuone13:38
cjwatsonI guess it's experimental maybe?13:38
ScottKseb128: Oh.  OK.13:38
seb128it's didrocks' project13:38
seb128it didn't get promoted this cycle because desktopcouch is not reliable enough13:38
seb128we couldn't get it tested13:39
ScottKI see.13:39
seb128btw when do you think you will start rolling images for the release?13:39
didrockseven if it's in universe and we can't get a lot of testing due to desktopcouch working for not enough people, I try to get it in shape :)13:40
seb128we got a few packages that didn't get rebuild with recent rosetta exports13:40
seb128ie xdg-user-dirs13:40
seb128or shared-mime-info13:40
ScottKIn that case, accepted.13:40
seb128dpm just pointed that today13:40
seb128is there still a slot to get such updates?13:41
didrocksScottK: thanks13:43
ScottKYou're welcome.13:43
didrocksScottK: I'll certainly have a new Quickly bug-fix release later or tomorrow btw13:43
ScottKOK.13:44
ScottKUniverse stuff tomorrow is fine.13:44
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LaneyI want to sync a haskell library and do some rebuilds against it14:13
Laneyis there still time?14:13
ScottKLaney: If it's important and doesn't touch anything that's seeded, yes.14:17
Laneyit's important enough, yes14:18
* Laney does14:18
ScottKHaskell isn't seeded anywhere is it?14:19
Laneyno14:19
ScottKShould be fine then.14:21
Laneyshall I wait for a normal sync or upload it myself?14:23
ScottKHow about file a sync bug.14:24
ScottKLet me see what I can do with it.14:24
Laneyright, that was the question14:24
LaneyNeed to wait for dinstall+mirror push then14:25
ScottKPing me when it's done.14:25
Laneyk14:25
ScottKOh, in that case, go ahead and upload it.14:25
cjwatsonif you give me an upload signed by a key in the Debian keyring, I can sync it14:25
Laneycjwatson: It's on incoming14:25
ScottKOhhh.  Even better.14:25
cjwatsonor point to it on incoming.d.o14:25
* Laney fishes out the dsc14:25
Laney(haskell-gtk)14:25
Laneyhttp://incoming.debian.org/haskell-gtk_0.11.0-5.dsc14:25
cjwatsonright, I can sync that, give me a minute to check sigs and such14:26
Laneysure, thanks14:26
didrocksev: cjwatson: I guess today's iso showing a gdm prompt when clicking on "try ubuntu" either on ubiquity session or from syslinux is known? (seems like there is no ubuntu user in the system but I can get no tty)14:27
cjwatsondidrocks: yes, known and fixed14:28
didrockscjwatson: great, I'm tracking another bug, it seems the keymap (at least the French one: azerty keyboard) is not taken into account when you use syslinux to choose "try ubuntu" or "install ubuntu" instead of the ubiquity session14:28
didrocksbut as I can't test today's iso, it will have to wait for deeper testing I guess :)14:29
cjwatsonLaney: synced14:33
Laneycjwatson: thanks muchly14:33
Laneyhopefully my graphs will go duly red and i won't have to think14:34
ScottKcjwatson: Would you please throw http://paste.debian.net/93211/ and mass-sync.py?  That takes care of all the pending sync requests for ~ubuntu-archive.14:45
cjwatsonScottK: doesn't the third line need to be -S experimental?14:49
* ScottK looks14:50
ScottKcjwatson: Yes.  Sorry about that.14:50
cjwatsonScottK: the last line seems problematic because experimental currently has rygel 0.8.0-114:51
cjwatson(BTW, sync-helper.py is useful for this kind of stuff, if you haven't seen it)14:51
ScottKcjwatson: I know it's not exactly what was ack'ed, but it's also development snapshot to stable release, so I thought it best to go ahead.14:51
ScottKI have not, I'll try it.14:51
cjwatsonok.  similarly gupnp-vala is .12 rather than .11, is that ok?14:52
ScottKcjwatson: Let's give that one a pass for now.  I'll look into it.14:54
cjwatsonok, skipping that14:55
cjwatson# Binaries are produced by TI, and the rpath cannot be rationally adjusted.15:00
cjwatsonrsalveti: ^- do you know about the chrpath package?15:00
cjwatsonrsalveti: I assume this is also related to why you have those awful libXau.so.0 and libXdmcp.so.0 symlinks?15:00
cjwatsonrsalveti: binaries on their way into the archive now ...15:02
rsalveticjwatson: yeah, ugly binaries and links15:02
rsalvetimissing soname, not that nice15:03
rsalveticjwatson: cool, thank you very much!15:03
cjwatsonScottK: done15:03
ScottKcjwatson: Thanks.15:03
didrockscjwatson: it seems that I found the bug about keyboard layout not beeing taken into account, but I would prefer you to have a look first: bug #65104615:55
ubot4Launchpad bug 651046 in casper (Ubuntu) "[maverick] wrong keyboard layout in live or ubiquity session (affects: 2) (heat: 10)" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/65104615:55
cjwatsondidrocks: dup of bug 594162 then15:59
ubot4Launchpad bug 594162 in busybox (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 1 other project) "segmentation fault while downloading preseed file (affects: 1) (heat: 12)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/59416215:59
cjwatsondidrocks: please don't work around it15:59
cjwatsoncyphermox said he was going to test my busybox fix15:59
didrockscjwatson: oh good then. please disapprove it then16:00
didrocksI'll dup it too16:00
cjwatsondisapprove?16:00
cjwatsonit's not nominated or anything16:00
cjwatsonoh, the branch16:00
cjwatsondidrocks: if you want to test busybox-initramfs from my PPA, that would be good too16:01
didrockscjwatson: ok, doing it then :)16:02
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didrockscjwatson: seems to work for me :-) nice!16:28
cyphermoxsweet.16:32
chrisccoulsonwhat's the absolute cut-off date for fixes to seeded packages? (ie, should i be preparing them as a SRU now)?16:36
chrisccoulsoni want to get bug 646076 fixed really16:36
ubot4Launchpad bug 646076 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) "gnome-display-properties: cannot save systemwide resolution (affects: 11) (dups: 1) (heat: 50)" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/64607616:36
seb128it's a one liner to create a directory on disk16:37
seb128one liner in the debian directory16:37
cjwatsonI think absolute cut-off is still a day or two away16:40
seb128ok16:41
seb128chrisccoulson, I guess upload now then ;-)16:41
chrisccoulsonexcellent, thanks16:43
dokocjwatson, ScottK: ok to go on with bug #654613 ?16:43
ubot4Launchpad bug 654613 in multisync0.90 (Ubuntu) (and 10 other projects) "remove packages needing opensync (<< 0.30) in maverick (affects: 1) (heat: 10)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/65461316:43
* ScottK looks at cjwatson.16:43
ScottKThere are quite a few removal bugs pending for ~ubuntu-archive.16:43
dokoI'm currently only working on NBS16:44
cjwatsondoko: did the Debian maintainer know how much of the opensync system this was going to take out?  how much of opensync is left?16:49
dokocjwatson: well, it's basically removing all of it. the alternative, afaiu, would be to revert to opensync (<< 0.30)16:50
cjwatsonis there any way we can reserve the option of putting it back in in an SRU?  people do actually use opensync16:51
cjwatson(was the conversation with the Debian maintainer somewhere public?)16:51
dokono, azeem pinged me on Friday an a private channel16:52
cjwatsonI'm worried about the results but don't see what else we can do really16:55
cjwatsonI do think we should restore it in an SRU if at all possible16:55
cjwatsonthe bug needs some better discussion of the problem and why this is the only option - people are going to find it while wondering what happened to opensync16:57
micahgcjwatson: all the enigmail merge does is decrease the diff with Debian17:26
cjwatsonmicahg: somebody seems to have accepted it, but from now to release, please save such things for natty17:32
DavieyRegarding mythexport.... it's a universe package, which fixes the package (current one is unusable).. the thing that makes the diff look larger is removals of hunks of commented code.. which i guess he could/should have left that - but he has worked hard on that, and so I sponsored it to give him the best chance of getting it in.  I told him that you may reject it :)17:33
micahgcjwatson: Sorry, I thought since it was unseeded, that was a safe merge17:35
DavieyWould the release team be able to comment on bug #654657 please? :)17:58
ubot4Launchpad bug 654657 in python-django-openid-auth (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Duplicate package (affects: 1) (heat: 10)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/65465717:58
Daviey(not urgent)17:58
ScottKDaviey: Commented18:00
DavieyScottK: thanks18:02
DavieyScottK: I've realised that i foolishly uploaded mythexport (currently in unapproved) with .bzr bundled... Would you mind nuking it, so i can reupload?19:32
ScottKSure thing.19:32
ScottKDaviey: Rejected.19:32
Daviey\o/, thanks19:33
NCommandercjwatson Riddell: was the casper not properly creating a user bug filed/fixed already?20:19
* NCommander isn't seeing anything in th ebackscroll and got bit by this bug now :-/20:19
cjwatsonyes, fixed in user-setup 1.28ubuntu1020:20
cjwatsondo you need an updated build of something on cdimage?20:20
cjwatsonI've rebuilt a few things but not the full set20:21
NCommandercjwatson: armel+dove needs a respin. probably also armel+omap*20:21
NCommanderer, actually, probably not, as omap doesn't use casper20:21
cjwatsondove running20:22
cjwatsondoes jasper use user-setup?  it wasn't a casper bug20:22
NCommandercjwatson: TBH, I have no clue, and no hardware to test20:23
cjwatsonquick source grep suggests not20:24
NCommandercjwatson: then just dove20:28
cjwatsonDaviey: this mythexport upload drops the change in 2.2.1-0ubuntu2, which was an installability fix20:30
Davieycjwatson: Hmm20:31
* Daviey looks20:31
cjwatsonactually, sending mail20:33
Davieycjwatson: Hmm.. dammit... i checked on a maverick box - and apt seemed to process it correctly.... just re-tried, and it didn't20:39
Davieycjwatson: Thanks for the mail... talking with John atm.20:46
* Daviey feels a plonker.20:46
cjwatsonno worries, that's what we're here for20:48
cjwatson... not for making you feel like a plonker. :-)20:48
Davieyheh20:51
superm1Riddell, http://launchpadlibrarian.net/56813600/casper_1.244_1.245.diff.gz causes an error on non-kde systems.  that 48kubuntu_disable_restart_notifications should be testing that it's really on a KDE image, or that the directory at least exists first20:57
Riddellhmm, yes20:58
Riddelllet me ping the author20:59
Riddellsuperm1: what's the affect of that error?20:59
fabrice_spHi, I'm working with enna's upstream to try to get it fixed in Maverick. The only solution would be to sync 3 libs (one is already in Debian, 2 are waiting in mentor) plus the enna package. the only rdepends of the libs are enna. What is the probability of get a FFe acked?21:01
superm1Riddell, i noticed it as an error in the casper log.  it's the last thing that casper runs, i'm unsure if it actually causes casper to exit prematurely though21:02
Riddellfabrice_sp: do it quick :)21:02
superm1it's hard to tell because user-setup was rather broken causing other interesting problems21:02
Riddellsuperm1: we'll get it fixed21:02
fabrice_spRiddell, I'll try :-) Thanks21:03
superm1Riddell, cool thanks.  perhaps it might make sense to move all things specific to certain flavors into packages only installed on those flavors for natty21:03
superm1that's what I did for all the mythbuntu casper stuff21:04
ScottKttx: I'm inclined to approve Bug 636482 - I'd like your opinion from a server team perspective.21:29
ubot4Launchpad bug 636482 in python-django (Debian) (and 1 other project) "Update python-django to 1.2.3 version to fix an XSS vulnerability (affects: 2) (dups: 1) (heat: 26)" [Unknown,Unknown] https://launchpad.net/bugs/63648221:29
micahgcjwatson: Since you said I should avoid "cosmetic" merges, I wanted to ask you about mediatomb, when you granted the FFe, it was on teh condition that I merge it from Debian before release, does this still apply22:07
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jdstrandcjwatson: I just installed today .1 daily server in a VM and it won't reboot. I get 'Rebooting into new system... and then pop out to the installer menu. it looks like clock-setup returned '1'. is this something you are aware of?22:42
jdstrandcjwatson: actually, that clock setup might be a cascading failure...22:42
jdstrandI thought I remebered something about not being able to reboot, but couldn't find it...22:43
jdstrandhmm.. yes, that wouldn't be the cause. it looks like the silesystems got unmounted but it just didn't reboot22:45
* Daviey screams.22:46
jdstrandDaviey: are you screaming at me?22:47
Davieyjdstrand: no, generally :)22:47
jdstrandheh22:47
jdstrandDaviey: was it in reaction to my comments, or unrelated?22:47
Davieyjdstrand: Addition to :)... things were looking so lovely a few days ago :)22:48
* jdstrand tries to find the installer magic he knew 6 months ago to debug this22:49
cjwatsonmicahg: that wasn't what I meant - I simply meant that I didn't want orig.tar files to get out of sync with Debian, and that the packaging should be vaguely congruent, etc.22:52
cjwatsonjdstrand: give me a few minutes and I can help.  toddler-wrangling just now22:52
jdstrandoh, duh-- 'save debug logs'23:00
jdstrandok, there are some rtc not found messages23:02
jdstrandbut ultimately clock-setup claims to have been successful23:02
jdstrandsome umount errors about Device or resource busy, and can't open /proc/mounts23:03
jdstrandbut then: Oct  4 21:32:48 init: The system is going down NOW!23:03
cjwatsoncan I see the full syslog?23:04
jdstrandyes23:04
jdstrand/home/jamie/syslog on chinstrap23:05
jdstrandcjwatson: ^23:05
cjwatsonhmm.23:09
cjwatsonnothing to do with clock-setup.  it worked fine the first time.23:09
jdstrandcjwatson: I have an appt in 20 minutes, but have put all the logs in /home/jamie/server-installer-wont-reboot-logs.tar.gz on chinstrap23:09
cjwatsonOct  4 21:32:48 finish-install: umount: can't umount /dev/pts: Device or resource busy23:09
cjwatsonthat's the first point things seem to go particularly badly wrong23:09
jdstrandcjwatson: I'm here until then though23:09
cjwatsonthough not 100% sure23:09
cjwatsoncan I set up a reproduction case for this?  server install in kvm?  anything particular?23:09
cjwatsonthe stuff most directly relevant here hasn't changed recently23:10
jdstrandcjwatson: http://paste.ubuntu.com/506029/23:11
jdstrandcjwatson: it isn't anything special, though I did use virt-install23:12
jdstrandcjwatson: the paste has the ps auxww output for virt-install and the full kvm line23:12
cjwatsonI never use the libvirt stuff for installer testing, it's such a pain for testing the installer as opposed to deploying a target system23:12
jdstrandbeing a libvirt maintainer in Ubuntu, I tend to use it :)23:13
jdstrandbut, the kvm line is there23:13
cjwatsonguess I'll just try virtio disks and hope that the rest doesn't matter much23:13
jdstrand768 ram, I do see '-rtc base=utc', ... raw disk image, ...23:14
cjwatsonrtc won't matter23:14
jdstrandI would be surprised if the other stuff made a difference23:14
jdstrandbut yeah virtio23:14
cjwatsonwhat partitioning?23:14
jdstrandcjwatson: default lvm23:15
cjwatsonok23:15
jdstrandcjwatson: all installation defaults-- hit Ok everywhere23:15
jdstrandcjwatson: this did work the middle of last week23:15
jdstrand(virt-install and all)23:15
cjwatsonit's bizarre, init thinks it's trying to shut down at least ...23:20
cjwatsoncan you reproduce it on a second run?  there's probably not much interesting evidence left23:20
cjwatsonmy test is running23:20
jdstrandcjwatson: sure, but it will have to be later. I gotta go in 523:21
* cjwatson nods23:21
jdstrandk, heading out. I'll try to kick it off later tonight (probably ~5 hours). otherwise first thing in the morning23:25
cjwatsonthis always turns out to be wrong when I say it, but it feels like cosmic rays23:27
micahgcjwatson: oh, sorry, so I should then wait to merge until natty, I have a regression from Lucid that I wanted to fix as well (lacking javascript that ScottK said I could go ahead and do)23:28
jdstrandcjwatson: well, I'll try it a few times and see if I can reproduce and get back to you. thanks for looking at it23:30
* jdstrand really leaves23:30
cjwatsonmicahg: fixing regressions is fine, but please keep the diffs minimal23:36
micahgcjwatson: ok, I'll save the merge for Natty then, thanks23:36
cjwatsonwe're getting to the point of having quite limited buildd and reviewer time remaining23:36
micahgcould someone please look at bug 65060123:38
ubot4Launchpad bug 650601 in libfxscintilla (Ubuntu) "[FFe] Please update libfxscintilla to 2.11.0 (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/65060123:38
cjwatsonjdstrand: would help if you'd said which tasks you were installing :-/23:38
cjwatsonit's possible that might matter23:38
cjwatsonmight be possible to decipher it from the logs23:39
cjwatsonjdstrand: reboots fine here.  please let me know which tasks you're using and I'll try with that23:49

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