[00:00] <cjwatson> I'd appreciate review of choose-mirror
[00:00] <cjwatson> a couple of people mentioned the missing proxy question during ISO testing
[00:03]  * ScottK is totally unfamiliar with D-I, so not particularly comfortable being the reviewer.
[07:55] <ara> good morning mvo
[08:02] <mvo> hey ara, good morning
[08:08] <mvo> hey, good morning jibel
[08:09] <jibel> Good morning mvo!
[09:15] <micahg> could someone please look at bug 650601 today
[09:15] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 650601 in libfxscintilla (Ubuntu) "[FFe] Please update libfxscintilla to 2.11.0 (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/650601
[10:09] <cjwatson> micahg: I can't see what practical difference this enigmail upload makes?  the merge mostly seems cosmetic
[10:09] <cjwatson> micahg: is there something I missed?
[10:58] <Riddell> I can't log in with today's Kubuntu CD
[10:58] <Riddell> "authentication error" on linux console
[11:58] <Riddell> yep, no "ubuntu" user on the ubuntu desktop ISO either
[11:58]  * Riddell looks at NCommander, last uploader of casper
[12:02] <cjwatson> meep
[12:02]  * cjwatson rsyncs and will have a look if nobody else does
[12:07] <cjwatson> ttx: likewise-open: is this Mac as in OS X, or Mac as in powerpc, or something else?
[12:07]  * NCommander hides out of site from Riddell's gaze.
[12:07] <cjwatson> (also I suspect that the autoconf error you're hitting might just be because the AC_CHECK_MEMBERS arguments were line-wrapped ...)
[12:08] <NCommander> Riddell: can you get the casper log and such? the patch I cooked should only fire on UNE + ARM, if it broke Kubuntu, then I made a typo somewhere
[12:08] <cjwatson> not seeing an obvious reason why recent changes would have affected ubuntu user creation in any way
[12:30] <ttx> cjwatson: that would be Mac as in OSX. I tried without the linewrap... and it still failed, same error
[12:30] <cjwatson> ok - would have approved but I see somebody already did ;-)
[12:31] <ttx> cjwatson: ok, thanks
[12:31] <ttx> cjwatson: I wonder if that's the "->" in the aggregate that it doesn't like.
[12:32] <ttx> cjwatson: and.. it used to work.
[12:40] <cjwatson> Riddell: user-setup bug actually
[12:41] <cjwatson> ogra: do check whether your changes are actually valid shell :-(
[12:42] <cjwatson> (I should have checked too when accepting it)
[12:43] <cjwatson> Riddell: please review user-setup 1.28ubuntu10 when it lands
[12:43] <Riddell> ok
[12:50] <cjwatson> ttx: should bug 600174 be on the server-mrs list?
[12:50] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 600174 in axis2c (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 1 other project) "axis2c fails to build from source in linaro (affects: 3) (dups: 1) (heat: 20)" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/600174
[12:50]  * ttx looks
[12:51] <ttx> cjwatson: hrm, looks a bit flaky. Yes, should be on our list, will add.
[12:51] <cjwatson> thanks
[13:00] <ogra_ac> cjwatson, whats wrong ?
[13:02]  * ogra_ac checks the branch
[13:02] <Riddell> missing bracket
[13:02] <ogra_ac> argh
[13:02] <ogra_ac> sorry sorry sorry
[13:30] <ScottK> Is oneconf supposed to be in Universe?
[13:37] <cjwatson> ScottK: nothing depends on it and it's not seeded ...
[13:38] <ScottK> cjwatson: OK.  It seemed odd to see Ubuntu One stuff in Universe.
[13:38] <seb128> it's not ubuntuone
[13:38] <cjwatson> I guess it's experimental maybe?
[13:38] <ScottK> seb128: Oh.  OK.
[13:38] <seb128> it's didrocks' project
[13:38] <seb128> it didn't get promoted this cycle because desktopcouch is not reliable enough
[13:39] <seb128> we couldn't get it tested
[13:39] <ScottK> I see.
[13:39] <seb128> btw when do you think you will start rolling images for the release?
[13:40] <didrocks> even if it's in universe and we can't get a lot of testing due to desktopcouch working for not enough people, I try to get it in shape :)
[13:40] <seb128> we got a few packages that didn't get rebuild with recent rosetta exports
[13:40] <seb128> ie xdg-user-dirs
[13:40] <seb128> or shared-mime-info
[13:40] <ScottK> In that case, accepted.
[13:40] <seb128> dpm just pointed that today
[13:41] <seb128> is there still a slot to get such updates?
[13:43] <didrocks> ScottK: thanks
[13:43] <ScottK> You're welcome.
[13:43] <didrocks> ScottK: I'll certainly have a new Quickly bug-fix release later or tomorrow btw
[13:44] <ScottK> OK.
[13:44] <ScottK> Universe stuff tomorrow is fine.
[14:13] <Laney> I want to sync a haskell library and do some rebuilds against it
[14:13] <Laney> is there still time?
[14:17] <ScottK> Laney: If it's important and doesn't touch anything that's seeded, yes.
[14:18] <Laney> it's important enough, yes
[14:18]  * Laney does
[14:19] <ScottK> Haskell isn't seeded anywhere is it?
[14:19] <Laney> no
[14:21] <ScottK> Should be fine then.
[14:23] <Laney> shall I wait for a normal sync or upload it myself?
[14:24] <ScottK> How about file a sync bug.
[14:24] <ScottK> Let me see what I can do with it.
[14:24] <Laney> right, that was the question
[14:25] <Laney> Need to wait for dinstall+mirror push then
[14:25] <ScottK> Ping me when it's done.
[14:25] <Laney> k
[14:25] <ScottK> Oh, in that case, go ahead and upload it.
[14:25] <cjwatson> if you give me an upload signed by a key in the Debian keyring, I can sync it
[14:25] <Laney> cjwatson: It's on incoming
[14:25] <ScottK> Ohhh.  Even better.
[14:25] <cjwatson> or point to it on incoming.d.o
[14:25]  * Laney fishes out the dsc
[14:25] <Laney> (haskell-gtk)
[14:25] <Laney> http://incoming.debian.org/haskell-gtk_0.11.0-5.dsc
[14:26] <cjwatson> right, I can sync that, give me a minute to check sigs and such
[14:26] <Laney> sure, thanks
[14:27] <didrocks> ev: cjwatson: I guess today's iso showing a gdm prompt when clicking on "try ubuntu" either on ubiquity session or from syslinux is known? (seems like there is no ubuntu user in the system but I can get no tty)
[14:28] <cjwatson> didrocks: yes, known and fixed
[14:28] <didrocks> cjwatson: great, I'm tracking another bug, it seems the keymap (at least the French one: azerty keyboard) is not taken into account when you use syslinux to choose "try ubuntu" or "install ubuntu" instead of the ubiquity session
[14:29] <didrocks> but as I can't test today's iso, it will have to wait for deeper testing I guess :)
[14:33] <cjwatson> Laney: synced
[14:33] <Laney> cjwatson: thanks muchly
[14:34] <Laney> hopefully my graphs will go duly red and i won't have to think
[14:45] <ScottK> cjwatson: Would you please throw http://paste.debian.net/93211/ and mass-sync.py?  That takes care of all the pending sync requests for ~ubuntu-archive.
[14:49] <cjwatson> ScottK: doesn't the third line need to be -S experimental?
[14:50]  * ScottK looks
[14:50] <ScottK> cjwatson: Yes.  Sorry about that.
[14:51] <cjwatson> ScottK: the last line seems problematic because experimental currently has rygel 0.8.0-1
[14:51] <cjwatson> (BTW, sync-helper.py is useful for this kind of stuff, if you haven't seen it)
[14:51] <ScottK> cjwatson: I know it's not exactly what was ack'ed, but it's also development snapshot to stable release, so I thought it best to go ahead.
[14:51] <ScottK> I have not, I'll try it.
[14:52] <cjwatson> ok.  similarly gupnp-vala is .12 rather than .11, is that ok?
[14:54] <ScottK> cjwatson: Let's give that one a pass for now.  I'll look into it.
[14:55] <cjwatson> ok, skipping that
[15:00] <cjwatson> # Binaries are produced by TI, and the rpath cannot be rationally adjusted.
[15:00] <cjwatson> rsalveti: ^- do you know about the chrpath package?
[15:00] <cjwatson> rsalveti: I assume this is also related to why you have those awful libXau.so.0 and libXdmcp.so.0 symlinks?
[15:02] <cjwatson> rsalveti: binaries on their way into the archive now ...
[15:02] <rsalveti> cjwatson: yeah, ugly binaries and links
[15:03] <rsalveti> missing soname, not that nice
[15:03] <rsalveti> cjwatson: cool, thank you very much!
[15:03] <cjwatson> ScottK: done
[15:03] <ScottK> cjwatson: Thanks.
[15:55] <didrocks> cjwatson: it seems that I found the bug about keyboard layout not beeing taken into account, but I would prefer you to have a look first: bug #651046
[15:55] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 651046 in casper (Ubuntu) "[maverick] wrong keyboard layout in live or ubiquity session (affects: 2) (heat: 10)" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/651046
[15:59] <cjwatson> didrocks: dup of bug 594162 then
[15:59] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 594162 in busybox (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 1 other project) "segmentation fault while downloading preseed file (affects: 1) (heat: 12)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/594162
[15:59] <cjwatson> didrocks: please don't work around it
[15:59] <cjwatson> cyphermox said he was going to test my busybox fix
[16:00] <didrocks> cjwatson: oh good then. please disapprove it then
[16:00] <didrocks> I'll dup it too
[16:00] <cjwatson> disapprove?
[16:00] <cjwatson> it's not nominated or anything
[16:00] <cjwatson> oh, the branch
[16:01] <cjwatson> didrocks: if you want to test busybox-initramfs from my PPA, that would be good too
[16:02] <didrocks> cjwatson: ok, doing it then :)
[16:28] <didrocks> cjwatson: seems to work for me :-) nice!
[16:32] <cyphermox> sweet.
[16:36] <chrisccoulson> what's the absolute cut-off date for fixes to seeded packages? (ie, should i be preparing them as a SRU now)?
[16:36] <chrisccoulson> i want to get bug 646076 fixed really
[16:36] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 646076 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) "gnome-display-properties: cannot save systemwide resolution (affects: 11) (dups: 1) (heat: 50)" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/646076
[16:37] <seb128> it's a one liner to create a directory on disk
[16:37] <seb128> one liner in the debian directory
[16:40] <cjwatson> I think absolute cut-off is still a day or two away
[16:41] <seb128> ok
[16:41] <seb128> chrisccoulson, I guess upload now then ;-)
[16:43] <chrisccoulson> excellent, thanks
[16:43] <doko> cjwatson, ScottK: ok to go on with bug #654613 ?
[16:43] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 654613 in multisync0.90 (Ubuntu) (and 10 other projects) "remove packages needing opensync (<< 0.30) in maverick (affects: 1) (heat: 10)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/654613
[16:43]  * ScottK looks at cjwatson.
[16:43] <ScottK> There are quite a few removal bugs pending for ~ubuntu-archive.
[16:44] <doko> I'm currently only working on NBS
[16:49] <cjwatson> doko: did the Debian maintainer know how much of the opensync system this was going to take out?  how much of opensync is left?
[16:50] <doko> cjwatson: well, it's basically removing all of it. the alternative, afaiu, would be to revert to opensync (<< 0.30)
[16:51] <cjwatson> is there any way we can reserve the option of putting it back in in an SRU?  people do actually use opensync
[16:51] <cjwatson> (was the conversation with the Debian maintainer somewhere public?)
[16:52] <doko> no, azeem pinged me on Friday an a private channel
[16:55] <cjwatson> I'm worried about the results but don't see what else we can do really
[16:55] <cjwatson> I do think we should restore it in an SRU if at all possible
[16:57] <cjwatson> the bug needs some better discussion of the problem and why this is the only option - people are going to find it while wondering what happened to opensync
[17:26] <micahg> cjwatson: all the enigmail merge does is decrease the diff with Debian
[17:32] <cjwatson> micahg: somebody seems to have accepted it, but from now to release, please save such things for natty
[17:33] <Daviey> Regarding mythexport.... it's a universe package, which fixes the package (current one is unusable).. the thing that makes the diff look larger is removals of hunks of commented code.. which i guess he could/should have left that - but he has worked hard on that, and so I sponsored it to give him the best chance of getting it in.  I told him that you may reject it :)
[17:35] <micahg> cjwatson: Sorry, I thought since it was unseeded, that was a safe merge
[17:58] <Daviey> Would the release team be able to comment on bug #654657 please? :)
[17:58] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 654657 in python-django-openid-auth (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Duplicate package (affects: 1) (heat: 10)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/654657
[17:58] <Daviey> (not urgent)
[18:00] <ScottK> Daviey: Commented
[18:02] <Daviey> ScottK: thanks
[19:32] <Daviey> ScottK: I've realised that i foolishly uploaded mythexport (currently in unapproved) with .bzr bundled... Would you mind nuking it, so i can reupload?
[19:32] <ScottK> Sure thing.
[19:32] <ScottK> Daviey: Rejected.
[19:33] <Daviey> \o/, thanks
[20:19] <NCommander> cjwatson Riddell: was the casper not properly creating a user bug filed/fixed already?
[20:19]  * NCommander isn't seeing anything in th ebackscroll and got bit by this bug now :-/
[20:20] <cjwatson> yes, fixed in user-setup 1.28ubuntu10
[20:20] <cjwatson> do you need an updated build of something on cdimage?
[20:21] <cjwatson> I've rebuilt a few things but not the full set
[20:21] <NCommander> cjwatson: armel+dove needs a respin. probably also armel+omap*
[20:21] <NCommander> er, actually, probably not, as omap doesn't use casper
[20:22] <cjwatson> dove running
[20:22] <cjwatson> does jasper use user-setup?  it wasn't a casper bug
[20:23] <NCommander> cjwatson: TBH, I have no clue, and no hardware to test
[20:24] <cjwatson> quick source grep suggests not
[20:28] <NCommander> cjwatson: then just dove
[20:30] <cjwatson> Daviey: this mythexport upload drops the change in 2.2.1-0ubuntu2, which was an installability fix
[20:31] <Daviey> cjwatson: Hmm
[20:31]  * Daviey looks
[20:33] <cjwatson> actually, sending mail
[20:39] <Daviey> cjwatson: Hmm.. dammit... i checked on a maverick box - and apt seemed to process it correctly.... just re-tried, and it didn't
[20:46] <Daviey> cjwatson: Thanks for the mail... talking with John atm.
[20:46]  * Daviey feels a plonker.
[20:48] <cjwatson> no worries, that's what we're here for
[20:48] <cjwatson> ... not for making you feel like a plonker. :-)
[20:51] <Daviey> heh
[20:57] <superm1> Riddell, http://launchpadlibrarian.net/56813600/casper_1.244_1.245.diff.gz causes an error on non-kde systems.  that 48kubuntu_disable_restart_notifications should be testing that it's really on a KDE image, or that the directory at least exists first
[20:58] <Riddell> hmm, yes
[20:59] <Riddell> let me ping the author
[20:59] <Riddell> superm1: what's the affect of that error?
[21:01] <fabrice_sp> Hi, I'm working with enna's upstream to try to get it fixed in Maverick. The only solution would be to sync 3 libs (one is already in Debian, 2 are waiting in mentor) plus the enna package. the only rdepends of the libs are enna. What is the probability of get a FFe acked?
[21:02] <superm1> Riddell, i noticed it as an error in the casper log.  it's the last thing that casper runs, i'm unsure if it actually causes casper to exit prematurely though
[21:02] <Riddell> fabrice_sp: do it quick :)
[21:02] <superm1> it's hard to tell because user-setup was rather broken causing other interesting problems
[21:02] <Riddell> superm1: we'll get it fixed
[21:03] <fabrice_sp> Riddell, I'll try :-) Thanks
[21:03] <superm1> Riddell, cool thanks.  perhaps it might make sense to move all things specific to certain flavors into packages only installed on those flavors for natty
[21:04] <superm1> that's what I did for all the mythbuntu casper stuff
[21:29] <ScottK> ttx: I'm inclined to approve Bug 636482 - I'd like your opinion from a server team perspective.
[21:29] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 636482 in python-django (Debian) (and 1 other project) "Update python-django to 1.2.3 version to fix an XSS vulnerability (affects: 2) (dups: 1) (heat: 26)" [Unknown,Unknown] https://launchpad.net/bugs/636482
[22:07] <micahg> cjwatson: Since you said I should avoid "cosmetic" merges, I wanted to ask you about mediatomb, when you granted the FFe, it was on teh condition that I merge it from Debian before release, does this still apply
[22:42] <jdstrand> cjwatson: I just installed today .1 daily server in a VM and it won't reboot. I get 'Rebooting into new system... and then pop out to the installer menu. it looks like clock-setup returned '1'. is this something you are aware of?
[22:42] <jdstrand> cjwatson: actually, that clock setup might be a cascading failure...
[22:43] <jdstrand> I thought I remebered something about not being able to reboot, but couldn't find it...
[22:45] <jdstrand> hmm.. yes, that wouldn't be the cause. it looks like the silesystems got unmounted but it just didn't reboot
[22:46]  * Daviey screams.
[22:47] <jdstrand> Daviey: are you screaming at me?
[22:47] <Daviey> jdstrand: no, generally :)
[22:47] <jdstrand> heh
[22:47] <jdstrand> Daviey: was it in reaction to my comments, or unrelated?
[22:48] <Daviey> jdstrand: Addition to :)... things were looking so lovely a few days ago :)
[22:49]  * jdstrand tries to find the installer magic he knew 6 months ago to debug this
[22:52] <cjwatson> micahg: that wasn't what I meant - I simply meant that I didn't want orig.tar files to get out of sync with Debian, and that the packaging should be vaguely congruent, etc.
[22:52] <cjwatson> jdstrand: give me a few minutes and I can help.  toddler-wrangling just now
[23:00] <jdstrand> oh, duh-- 'save debug logs'
[23:02] <jdstrand> ok, there are some rtc not found messages
[23:02] <jdstrand> but ultimately clock-setup claims to have been successful
[23:03] <jdstrand> some umount errors about Device or resource busy, and can't open /proc/mounts
[23:03] <jdstrand> but then: Oct  4 21:32:48 init: The system is going down NOW!
[23:04] <cjwatson> can I see the full syslog?
[23:04] <jdstrand> yes
[23:05] <jdstrand> /home/jamie/syslog on chinstrap
[23:05] <jdstrand> cjwatson: ^
[23:09] <cjwatson> hmm.
[23:09] <cjwatson> nothing to do with clock-setup.  it worked fine the first time.
[23:09] <jdstrand> cjwatson: I have an appt in 20 minutes, but have put all the logs in /home/jamie/server-installer-wont-reboot-logs.tar.gz on chinstrap
[23:09] <cjwatson> Oct  4 21:32:48 finish-install: umount: can't umount /dev/pts: Device or resource busy
[23:09] <cjwatson> that's the first point things seem to go particularly badly wrong
[23:09] <jdstrand> cjwatson: I'm here until then though
[23:09] <cjwatson> though not 100% sure
[23:09] <cjwatson> can I set up a reproduction case for this?  server install in kvm?  anything particular?
[23:10] <cjwatson> the stuff most directly relevant here hasn't changed recently
[23:11] <jdstrand> cjwatson: http://paste.ubuntu.com/506029/
[23:12] <jdstrand> cjwatson: it isn't anything special, though I did use virt-install
[23:12] <jdstrand> cjwatson: the paste has the ps auxww output for virt-install and the full kvm line
[23:12] <cjwatson> I never use the libvirt stuff for installer testing, it's such a pain for testing the installer as opposed to deploying a target system
[23:13] <jdstrand> being a libvirt maintainer in Ubuntu, I tend to use it :)
[23:13] <jdstrand> but, the kvm line is there
[23:13] <cjwatson> guess I'll just try virtio disks and hope that the rest doesn't matter much
[23:14] <jdstrand> 768 ram, I do see '-rtc base=utc', ... raw disk image, ...
[23:14] <cjwatson> rtc won't matter
[23:14] <jdstrand> I would be surprised if the other stuff made a difference
[23:14] <jdstrand> but yeah virtio
[23:14] <cjwatson> what partitioning?
[23:15] <jdstrand> cjwatson: default lvm
[23:15] <cjwatson> ok
[23:15] <jdstrand> cjwatson: all installation defaults-- hit Ok everywhere
[23:15] <jdstrand> cjwatson: this did work the middle of last week
[23:15] <jdstrand> (virt-install and all)
[23:20] <cjwatson> it's bizarre, init thinks it's trying to shut down at least ...
[23:20] <cjwatson> can you reproduce it on a second run?  there's probably not much interesting evidence left
[23:20] <cjwatson> my test is running
[23:21] <jdstrand> cjwatson: sure, but it will have to be later. I gotta go in 5
[23:21]  * cjwatson nods
[23:25] <jdstrand> k, heading out. I'll try to kick it off later tonight (probably ~5 hours). otherwise first thing in the morning
[23:27] <cjwatson> this always turns out to be wrong when I say it, but it feels like cosmic rays
[23:28] <micahg> cjwatson: oh, sorry, so I should then wait to merge until natty, I have a regression from Lucid that I wanted to fix as well (lacking javascript that ScottK said I could go ahead and do)
[23:30] <jdstrand> cjwatson: well, I'll try it a few times and see if I can reproduce and get back to you. thanks for looking at it
[23:30]  * jdstrand really leaves
[23:36] <cjwatson> micahg: fixing regressions is fine, but please keep the diffs minimal
[23:36] <micahg> cjwatson: ok, I'll save the merge for Natty then, thanks
[23:36] <cjwatson> we're getting to the point of having quite limited buildd and reviewer time remaining
[23:38] <micahg> could someone please look at bug 650601
[23:38] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 650601 in libfxscintilla (Ubuntu) "[FFe] Please update libfxscintilla to 2.11.0 (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/650601
[23:38] <cjwatson> jdstrand: would help if you'd said which tasks you were installing :-/
[23:38] <cjwatson> it's possible that might matter
[23:39] <cjwatson> might be possible to decipher it from the logs
[23:49] <cjwatson> jdstrand: reboots fine here.  please let me know which tasks you're using and I'll try with that