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penguin42I can reliably trigger ttm_bo_validate to return ENOMEM on Radeon; any ideas how to debug - I assume something is asking for a stupid size12:34
asacRAOF: Sarvatt: one question. what happened to the EGL texture pixmap KHR extension we had in your package at some point? 13:23
asacor did we never add it there13:24
Sarvattasac: guessing you're talking about mesa? it's there - EGL client APIs: OpenGL OpenGL_ES OpenGL_ES2 OpenVG 14:08
SarvattEGL extensions string:14:08
Sarvatt    EGL_KHR_image_base EGL_KHR_image_pixmap EGL_KHR_image14:08
asacSarvatt: is that in your ppa?14:08
asacsomeone from our graphics group complained that after upgrade it was gone14:08
* asac has to restart bbib14:09
asacSarvatt: back for a bit ;)14:16
asacunity didnt start here :((14:17
Sarvattasac: no not in a PPA, libegl1-mesa-drivers                                 7.9~git20100924-0ubuntu214:19
asacSarvatt: ah ok14:19
Sarvattwhat's wrong?14:20
asacwell14:20
asacnot sure14:20
asacsomeone said he was running your ppa and now he doesnt have the extension anymore14:20
asacbut most likely he ran my version which now got superseded in your ppa or so14:21
asacjust guessing here14:21
asacas long as its in archive its ok14:21
asacyou might want to include all the gles etc. goodies in your ppa at some points14:21
SarvattI am :)14:21
Sarvattsince august14:21
asacSarvatt: so why is that extension not in your ppa? ;) ... or maybe its missing in the headers?14:23
Sarvattwhich ppa? xorg-edgers?14:23
asachm14:23
* Sarvatt has about 20 ppa's with mesa in it14:23
Sarvattbut there shouldn't be any missing that extension14:24
asacheh14:24
asacok so you say xorg-edgers has it now?14:25
asacand main archive? thats good enough14:25
asacthanks14:25
* asac tries unity one more time ... stay tuned14:25
Sarvattricotz: so, should I add a Recommends: ia32-libs-mesa-dri-experimental [amd64] to edgers libgl1-mesa-dri-experimental?14:42
ricotzSarvatt, did you talked to YokoZar?14:44
Sarvattnope just went over the logs in ubuntu-devel where you guys were talking, sounds like its appropriate in edgers for now at least until the archive one catches up14:45
ricotzit might be more convinient to have this Recommend14:45
Sarvattyah thats what I said :)14:46
ricotzthen do it ;)14:46
Sarvattso its automatically installed when you install it14:46
Sarvattokie14:46
Sarvatti wasn't sure if you guys were renaming the package or anything14:46
Sarvattia32-libs really needs better versioning :)14:47
ricotzyeah, the date should be updated, but they might want to keep in sync with debian14:48
ricotzi mean the date string in the version14:48
Sarvattyeah, 20090808 is silly since its been completely refreshed so many times since then14:49
ricotzright14:50
tseliotmvo: can you remove nvidia-173 from your blacklist, please? We have a driver that works now and there's no need to migrate users to nouveau15:40
jcristauSarvatt: seen 644943?15:42
* Sarvatt looks15:42
Sarvattfirst guess - http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/driver/xf86-video-intel/commit/?id=69d65f9184006eac790efcff78a0e425160e95aa15:43
Sarvatti'm seeing the same thing in gnome-terminal and xchat with 2.12 with compiz enabled and its fixed by that15:44
jcristausounds quite plausible.15:44
jcristaui guess the ones reporting it from nvidia could have a similar bug there.15:45
Sarvattthanks for the heads up, was about to look for bugs with that exact same issue to ask for testing since i've only reproduced/fixed it locally15:50
tjaaltontseliot, mvo: see the end of http://paste2.org/p/1016479, could the missing file be the reason why jockey doesn't create an xorg.conf for the user?15:52
tseliottjaalton: it could be but that's not really an error15:54
tjaaltontseliot: maybe it is for jockey15:54
tseliottjaalton: yes, let me check the code15:55
tseliottjaalton: is the package correctly installed?16:01
tjaaltontseliot: knittl reported it yesterday, so maybe he knows better :)16:03
tjaaltonI'll leave you to it, need to run ->16:04
tseliotok16:04
Sarvattso I've got 2 x-x-v-intel patches that need to go through the SRU process, would it be better to target 2 separate uploads or batch them together? one of them is extremely safe - http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/driver/xf86-video-intel/commit/?id=8784c4f5a1524fb979b00c7ce7981cbc1dcf0ec016:05
bjsnidertseliot, i was saying yesterday that according to the postinst script, that error is expected in i38616:06
tseliotbjsnider: yes, and it doesn't cause dpkg to fail16:07
bjsniderright at the end of that pastebin it just says it failed and doesn't specifically say why16:07
tseliothence I find it hard to believe that it can cause that failure16:07
bjsnideri was saying the same thing yesterday16:07
tseliotgood16:08
Sarvattdarn, that x-x-v-intel commit doesn't fix xterm, just gnome-terminal and xchat16:44
Sarvattthe xchat one with compiz is *very* annoying, fonts resize themselves and disappear at will16:49
Sarvatthttp://sarvatt.com/downloads/xterm.png16:49
jcristaushiny16:50
Sarvattxterm problem is still there on master of everything except server 1.9 branch, couldn't be that easy of course17:09
knittltjaalton: hm? i was afk17:33
tjaaltonknittl: tseliot left already17:45
knittlhm ok17:53
tjaaltonmaybe I need to upgrade my box to see if I can reproduce it..17:54
Sarvattjcristau: are you guys seeing the xterm problem on intel in debian too?17:59
jcristaunot afaik18:00
jcristauthe reason i saw that bug is i'm subscribed to xterm lp bug mail :)18:00
penguin42Sarvatt: is that just typing or moving back and forward?18:00
Sarvattwith xterm its just typing, and it goes away on its on if you let it sit or move the window18:01
penguin42Sarvatt: Hmm seems fine here on 945GM18:01
tjaaltoni can reproduce it18:02
Sarvattin xchat/gnome-terminal on 945 i'm getting fonts disappearing or moving around with the inconsolata font at 10 with slight hinting without the patch I pushed to git18:02
* penguin42 is on the 'default' font whatever that is18:02
penguin42is 'ttm' an allocator for memory on the card itself? i.e. if it's saying ENOMEM is it complaining aboutmemory on the card rather than system?18:06
Sarvattok the xterm problem might be a compiz problem it looks like, can't reproduce with compiz from git18:20
Sarvattand if it's not in debian it's somewhere between 0.8.4 and 0.8.6 or in one of the patches we carry18:20
jcristaucould be an xserver 1.7 vs 1.9 difference, too?18:26
* Sarvatt checks on a f14 livecd18:29
Sarvattanyone around in here using xorg-edgers on lucid with an intel GPU by any chance? :)18:34
Sarvattif so could you launch xterm and type a bunch of characters and see if you get any corruption around them?18:35
penguin42Sarvatt: Sorry, my machines are upto Maverick18:42
penguin42Sarvatt: Question; The 945GM's 2048 horizotnal limit, is that a hard limit or are there some combinations that it lets it go wider?18:43
Sarvattyou can go up to 4096x4096 if you don't use compositing, but you'll lose Xv and such as well18:44
penguin42Sarvatt: So when does the GUI stop you doing that; I see two bugs people saying the GUI won't elt them put the monitors side by side, one of which says it worked in Lucid (bug 654515 and bug 651994)18:44
ubot4Launchpad bug 654515 in xorg (Ubuntu) "Dual-head setup only possible with stacked screen combination (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/65451518:44
ubot4Launchpad bug 651994 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) "Dual-monitor possible with top-bottom screen configuration only (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/65199418:44
Sarvattit stops with a black screen if you try to change it after compiz is already started because it isn't smart enough to disable compiz after the fact when it resizes18:46
penguin42It looks like in that case though something is limiting it to 204818:47
penguin42Sarvatt: It seems reasonable for it to stop them going above 2k horizontal18:50
Sarvatthmm, if i run xterm inside of an xtruss trace I can't reproduce it either19:39
penguin42looks like Mobility 9600 really isn't very happy with modeset19:53
bjsniderpenguin42, ttm is supposed to manage graphics ram, not system ram19:58
penguin42bjsnider: Hmm ok, that makes sense - so getting out of memory from it is slightly less surprising than if it was system memory19:59
penguin42bjsnider: But still, it's a bit unfortunate19:59
bjsniderhow much graphics memory does that thing have?19:59
tjaaltonintel gfx uses a portion of the main memory20:01
penguin42bjsnider: 512MB, although I think only 256 is mapped via PCI20:01
penguin42bjsnider: I can reliably trigger the ttm code giving -ENOMEM using google maps in chromium on KDE with desktop effects20:02
bjsnidertjaalton, i didn't think intel chips had any discreet graphics ram20:03
penguin42(this is on Radeon)20:03
penguin42(and why the heck did .Xauthority move?)20:04
jcristaubecause gdm20:04
tjaaltonok, missed that line then :)20:04
penguin42jcristau: Is there a standrd right answer as to how people are supposed to connect to an existing X display if they ssh in ?20:05
jcristaupenguin42: make gdm not be stupid :/20:13
penguin42is there a reason why gdm started doing it this way?  I just had someone asking aobut how to get x11vnc going, and there isn't a simple answer20:15
jcristauno idea20:15
Sarvatta mobility 9600 with 256/512MB vram? no way..20:26
Sarvattmost of those had 6420:27
Sarvattsure you aren't looking at the GART size?20:27
penguin42Sarvatt: No, mine is an HD4350 with 256/512 - the 9600 was a separate thing20:29
Sarvattoh sorry20:29
penguin42Sarvatt: The Mobility 9600 is I'm seeing people who need nomodeset for it20:30
Sarvattdoing 10 things at once and misread20:30
penguin42if there are a couple of bugs assigned to linux that are in the intel drm code should they be tagged or marked in some particular way?20:34
Sarvatt"`xorg-needs-kernel-fix`This is an xorg bug which is dependent on a kernel patch" is the closest thing really, but thats more for bugs against X packages that are really in the kernel20:37
penguin42ok, was just looking for a way to flag it to the guys who knew - I've added the function/offset to the title of both of them 20:39
Sarvattif you have a backtrace it helps a lot to put that in the subject of the bug somewhere so we can find it with a search20:40
penguin42Sarvatt: Yeh, I've got 3 of them all that are in intel_release_load_detect_pipe+0x2120:42
Sarvattnull pointer dereference?20:43
Sarvattlucid stock kernel or maverick?20:43
Sarvatti've seen a few of those but haven't seen the fix20:43
penguin42maverick stock; actually I think there are about 6 of them20:44
penguin42http://bit.ly/cHVm7a  that's all 720:46
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RAOFSarvatt: You'd do both patches (and any follow up patches needed for that flush commit) in a single SRU.  Which might fix multiple open bugs.22:59
SarvattRAOF: ahh ok, I was thinking about reverting that and trying to get the sandybridge fix through since the bugs referenced in the changelog aren't actually fixed by it. darn xterm having a different problem than gnome-terminal and xchat23:23
RAOFWho uses xterm, anyway? :)23:24
Sarvattgotta find other bugs (or report them *gasp*) for the other compiz text rendering problem if anything :)23:25
Sarvatthttp://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/driver/xf86-video-intel/commit/?id=8784c4f5a1524fb979b00c7ce7981cbc1dcf0ec0 doesn't work23:26
RAOFDa da daaaaaaaa!23:26
Sarvattgstreamer-properties still tries to auto select Xv23:26
RAOFIs there an overlay adaptor available?23:26
RAOFI mean, that just disables the textured video port.23:26
Sarvattdevice says unsupported in both cases and there are no options for textured or overlay, the one i pushed to git actually works though :D23:28
RAOFAnd gstreamer-properties doesn't auto-select Xv in that instance?23:29
Sarvattrebooting into the upstream intel to see what xvinfo says23:29
Sarvattnope, xv is disabled completely and it doesn't hang, with the upstream one it hangs still playing a video in totem with autoselect in gstreamer-properties23:30
RAOFYay us, I guess.23:31
SarvattI just used parts of what was in the bug report referenced in the commit, they probably didn't want to add the whole xvideo option back to the driver but i'm grabbing some info now to add to the report about how it doesn't work23:34
brycehwhat do you guys think about putting http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/intel-gfx/2010-October/008286.html in for an sru?23:34
Sarvatthttp://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/intel-gfx/2010-October/008299.html23:35
bryceh(I suspect it wouldn't pass sru team review, but figure it needs asked)23:35
Sarvattit'd be nice but i think its a big stretch personally23:38
RAOFI think it'd be pretty hard to argue that adding support for monitor hotplug events is a bugfix :)23:40
* penguin42 is now curious, something does happen automagically on monitor hot plugs - so what does that change?23:40
RAOFFair question.23:44
RAOFI thought gnome-settings-daemon was watching udev & doing stuff, but that doesn't appear to be the case.23:45
penguin42(especially because I keep meaning to file a bug to say that the default behaviour is not flexible enough since it always appears on the wrong side of my laptop!)23:46
RAOFpenguin42: Come to UDS (or participate remotely)!  We'll be having a “what to do with multihead” session at some point. :)23:47
* penguin42 might be able to do some of those, they're evenings for me23:48
penguin42RAOF:  Relaly wants it to remember particular states for particular monitors; e.g. if I plug that monitor in then it goes on the left, if I plug that one in it's a projector and ....23:50
RAOFgnome-settings-daemon _should_ work there; it does for me™.23:50

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