[01:37] <Fezzler> Does REAPER work in Ubuntu?
[01:37] <holstein> looking at the screenshots
[01:38] <holstein> it looks alot like http://www.renoise.com/
[01:38] <holstein> http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=3336
[01:39] <holstein> i would ask over in #opensourcemusicians Fezzler
[01:39] <holstein> see if anyone acutally uses it
[01:39] <holstein> i remember seeing some chatter
[01:39] <holstein> but i forget what the final word was
[01:39] <Fezzler> u use renoise?
[01:39] <holstein> i checked out the demo
[01:39] <holstein> seemed cool
[01:39] <holstein> ardour is really the tool that fits my needs best
[01:40] <Fezzler> I bounce around.  REAPER, ProTools, Audacity, Ardour, Live
[01:41] <holstein> i really dont do anything that requires live
[01:41] <Fezzler> REAPER IRC on MIXXNET
[01:41] <holstein> and i found the UI quite strange
[01:42] <holstein> audacity doesnt do multitrack well
[01:42] <holstein> i really dont know much about reaper
[01:42] <Fezzler> It is odd.  But it is one of those pieces of software if you go thru the tutorials, it begins to make sense and you realize why it is so darn innovative
[01:42] <holstein> live?
[01:42] <Fezzler> yea
[01:42] <holstein> thats what ive heard
[01:43] <holstein> i really dont do much MIDI or electronic music
[01:43] <holstein> and when i do
[01:43] <Fezzler> also, and I am new to recording, for some reason Live has produced some of my best mixes
[01:43] <ScottL> Fezzler, i believe reaper will work with ubuntu but requires wine of course
[01:43] <holstein> i tend to treat it more like an anolog source
[01:44] <holstein> yeah, its not going to hurt anything to try reaper
[01:44] <holstein> just get wine and go for it
[01:44] <Fezzler> guitar player - but I do use software drums and shakers and horns
[01:44] <holstein> and poke around on wineHQ
[01:44] <Fezzler> ScottL>> Thanks!
[01:44] <Fezzler> I have wine installed
[01:44] <ScottL> Fezzler, if you check the reaper forums you should find someone called "alex stone" (i think) who did a bunch of work with it
[01:45] <holstein> AH, thats cool
[01:48] <Fezzler> ScottL>> Thanks
[01:50] <Fezzler> Beginning mixer, but my best results have been when I track each drum component individually
[01:51] <holstein> best sounding?
[01:51] <holstein> or best groove?
[01:52] <holstein> might have to find a happy middle ground
[01:52] <holstein> read about some recording techniques
[01:52] <holstein> if your having phase issues
[01:52] <Fezzler> sounding.  when I put drum track on one track, mix is always muddy
[01:53] <holstein> close mic-ing each drum?
[01:53] <holstein> with like 4 or 6 tracks?
[01:53] <Fezzler> midi / wave drums
[01:53] <holstein> OH
[01:53] <holstein> that shouldnt matter then
[01:54] <holstein> you can tell hydrogen to spit each drum out separatly to JACK
[01:54] <holstein> so you can mix them like an actual kit
[01:58] <Fezzler> yes, I like hydrogen.  I think tracking each drum opens up mix, but what do I know
[02:01] <holstein> hey
[02:01] <holstein> if it sounds good
[02:01] <holstein> go for it
[02:01] <Fezzler> fun learning, just wish I had more time
[02:01] <Fezzler> and money for instructions
[02:01] <holstein> nah
[02:01] <holstein> you can get help online
[02:03] <Fezzler> well, I've read about panning.  volume is easy.  I need to learn more about EQ, Gate, Compression
[02:04] <Fezzler> I also found my best results are when I add only subtle effect.
[02:05] <Fezzler> anyone try rakarack
[02:06]  * holstein is a rakarrack fanboy :)
[02:06] <Fezzler> Oh!  Struck a nerve.  :)
[02:07] <Fezzler> I should check it out then
[02:07] <holstein> those guys are really great too
[02:10] <holstein> quite an active project
[02:12] <ScottL> i second rakarrack, awesome jack-aware application
[02:13] <holstein> crazy light-weight too
[02:13] <holstein> for what all it does
[02:18] <Fezzler> holstein>> just installed it
[02:19] <ScottL> i think one of the newer developers actually knows about electrical engineering
[02:22] <Fezzler> holstein>> so my guitar should be recorded clean and then add Rakarack effects
[02:22] <holstein> i usually track with it on
[02:22] <holstein> and take a wet and dry channel
[02:22] <holstein> then, i got options
[02:23] <Fezzler> holstein>> I bet you can remap too.  Put clean on one track, output to new track with rakarrack
[02:23] <holstein> yup
[02:23] <holstein> in JACK
[02:24] <holstein> you can route the clean one where ever after the fact
[02:25] <Fezzler> I use my DigiTech RP250 as my audio input device.  Not sure it does clean or aka bypass
[02:26] <Fezzler> I think it has a "Direct"
[02:28] <holstein> yeah
[02:28] <holstein> maybe you can get both going in
[02:28] <holstein> on 2 tracks
[02:28] <Fezzler> unless my Ubuntu PC has a firewire in port, I have a M-Audio Firewire 410
[02:29] <holstein> yeah
[02:29] <holstein> i got a firepod
[02:29] <Fezzler> Firepod a line 6 product?
[02:30] <Fezzler> or Presonus?
[02:31] <holstein> presonus firepod
[02:31] <holstein> FP-10 they call it now
[02:31] <Fezzler> just looked it up -sweet
[02:32] <holstein> yeah, it works well
[02:32] <holstein> decent preamps
[02:32] <holstein> 8 balanced ins
[02:33] <holstein> !play
[02:33] <holstein> sorry
[02:35] <Fezzler> Lots of options with the FP-10
[02:36] <holstein> around 400 too
[02:36] <holstein> US $
[02:37] <Fezzler> here is what I have  http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_au/FireWire410.html
[02:38] <Fezzler> It is somewhat quirky because it requires a complete shutdown to plug-in, unplug.  Sometime "sleeping" the computer works too.
[02:39] <holstein> OH
[02:39] <holstein> that could be the chipset
[02:40] <holstein> http://www.ffado.org/?q=node/24 :/
[02:43] <Fezzler> well - looks like no go in Linux for M-Audio FW 410 per your link
[02:43] <holstein> yup
[02:44] <Fezzler> Firepod does though have Linux driver (or works with alsa?)
[02:46] <holstein> ffado
[02:46] <holstein> the firewire driver in JACK
[02:46] <holstein> just works :)
[02:46] <holstein> ffado is where to check
[02:47] <Fezzler> should I try or not bother?
[02:47] <holstein> with the firewire 410?
[02:47] <Fezzler> yup
[02:47] <holstein> wont hurt to plug it in and see
[02:48] <holstein> but the ffado site is pretty current
[02:48] <holstein> they have an active mailing list too
[03:10] <Fezzler> holstein>> see ya
[03:10] <holstein> Fezzler: :)
[03:10] <Fezzler> holstein>> gonna give rakarack a try and just capture a clean as possible tone from RP250
[03:11] <holstein> rakarrack FTW :)
[03:13] <Fezzler> I've learned not only does playing guitar turn one into a gear head but also a tone head!
[03:13] <holstein> hehe
[03:14] <Fezzler> I'm so glad I took this hobby up.  Just wish I started 30 years ago
[03:44] <Fezzler> holstein>>
[03:45] <Fezzler> rakarack Q:  here?
[03:45] <holstein> sure
[03:45] <holstein> theres a channel too though
[03:46] <holstein> if i dont know
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[09:11] <Guest11951> i'm launching jackd from a bash script. anyone know how to detect inside the script that jackd has started up?
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[14:45] <M00R1Z> hey everybody, i have a small question, is ubuntu studio ubuntu+studio, meaning that it's always based on ubuntu's latest version and i basically get ubuntu + the audiovisual stuff?
[14:45] <M00R1Z> i appreciate it
[16:35] <skypce> hi
[16:36] <skypce> can you helpme with it:
[16:36] <skypce> JACK ERROR: zombified - calling shutdown handler
[16:36] <skypce> Audio::shutdown()
[16:36] <skypce> it is when i run muse from cosole
[16:36] <skypce> and i try to load a soundfont
[16:37] <skypce> with fluidsynth
[16:54] <holstein> skypce: i have seen that
[16:54] <holstein> i think there is an argument
[16:54] <holstein> -z or -Z
[16:55] <holstein> i used to use it to get zynaddsubfx to run
[16:57] <skypce> very thank you holstein
[16:57] <skypce> i will test in a moment
[16:57] <skypce> :D