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NateWis anyone able to reproduce bug #648238 regarding the volume indicator?00:56
ubot5Launchpad bug 648238 in The Sound Menu "always show unmuted at startup (affected: 5, heat: 26)" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/64823800:56
cmulkhello everyone. I'm on the cardapio menu team and I'm trying to work on a bug posted here https://bugs.launchpad.net/cardapio/+bug/651803. When the cardapio menu is activated, the indicator-appmenu sees it as an application and tries to display a menu, showing only File. Is there a way to make the appmenu completely ignore cardapio?03:54
ubot5Launchpad bug 651803 in Cardapio "Cardapio conflicts with indicator-applet-appmenu (affected: 1, heat: 6)" [Low,Triaged]03:54
JanCBorchardt_bratsche, we got another problem with appmenu: When the cardapio menu is activated, the indicator-appmenu sees it as an application and tries to display a menu, showing only File. Is there a way to make the appmenu completely ignore cardapio?08:00
JanCBorchardt_see https://bugs.launchpad.net/cardapio/+bug/65180308:01
ubot5Launchpad bug 651803 in Cardapio "Cardapio conflicts with indicator-applet-appmenu (affected: 1, heat: 6)" [Low,Triaged]08:01
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kenvandinetedg, ping18:13
tedgkenvandine, Howdy18:14
kenvandinehey, i have a dbus service question18:14
kenvandinehttp://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/IntroductionToDBus18:14
kenvandinesays you can list multiple names for a service18:14
kenvandinewith a Names=something;somethingelse18:14
kenvandinebut doesn't seem to work... just bad docs?18:15
tedgkenvandine, Hmm, I've never done that....18:15
tedgkenvandine, I wouldn't see any reason it wouldn't work though.18:15
tedgkenvandine, Unless it just wasn't read as a list.18:15
kenvandineit doesn't :)18:15
tedgkenvandine, But, why not just make multiple service files?18:15
tedgkenvandine, Seems like it'd be the same effect.18:16
kenvandinethat works18:16
kenvandinehowever... it actually caused a problem in karmic, but seems fine now18:16
kenvandinebut ideally i would want gwibber.service, which listed all the interface that service answers too18:16
kenvandinehowever, i wonder if it is a good idea to split those processes, one per interface name...18:17
kenvandinenot sure if there is a good reason to do that or now :)18:17
kenvandines/now/not18:17
kenvandinei think the current rationale is com.Gwibber.Service really needs all the other interfaces to be running in order to function, so just creating them all in the dispatcher was easy18:18
kenvandinetedg, by looking at the indicator services, i assume your in favor of that model of a bunch of independent services ?  got opinions on gwibber splitting out more like indicator-* and telepathy?18:22
kenvandinelike facebook spawns a process, twitter, etc?18:22
tedgkenvandine, The nice part about how telepathy does that it is that they're easy to upgrade.18:22
tedgkenvandine, And the interfaces are quite clear.18:23
tedgkenvandine, So, as you have it, you need to basically ahve all the providers in your tree.  But, that way people can build their own more easily.18:23
tedgkenvandine, And, for instance, if they wanted to fork the identi.ca one for their own private server that was preconfigured, they could do that easily in a package.18:23
kenvandineyeah, i think ryan was pretty opposed to splitting them out last time i mentioned it18:23
tedgThe other problem you have is that with Python, individual processes are pretty expensive.18:24
kenvandinethe tough part is versioning the api18:24
kenvandineyeah18:24
kenvandineunless we wrapped them in libgwibber :)18:24
tedgYes, you should avoid versioning the API :)18:24
tedgHonestly, you should talk with the Collabra guys some, they probably have some good advice.18:25
kenvandineyeah18:26
kenvandinei'll do that at uds, hope they are coming18:26
kenvandinejcastro_, do you know if they are coming?18:26
kenvandinetedg, also it would open it up so they could be written in other languages18:27
kenvandineanyway... thx18:27
jcastrokenvandine: I've not heard back from them18:44
jcastrokenvandine: nor the yorba guys either18:44
kenvandinejcastro: bummer18:46
kenvandinehope they  make it18:46

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